ifwith apt-ge12:00
Seveasif, apt-get install linux-source12:00
GNULinuxerchaps0063, normally it'd be blue, but when you compile or something, it'd be green12:00
ifSeveas thnx12:00
xingmui'm using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050526 Firefox/1.0 (Ubuntu package 1.0.4) and having some plugins like SwitchProxy and TabBrowser Preferences installed12:00
chaps0063GNULinuxer, how do I get the cpufreq panel applet, is that for gnome?12:00
Seveaschaps0063, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel and look for it12:01
GNULinuxerchaps0063, yes, it's for gnome12:01
Seveasit's called "CPU Frequency scaling monitor"12:01
chaps0063is there something similar for kde?12:02
TokenBadSeveas, I got apt-get to work for getting java by adding a couple sites to the list file...and then doing sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.512:02
thenukechaps0063: gnome12:02
Seveaschaps0063, no idea, maybe the folks in #kubuntu know it12:02
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TuxicityHelp, I cant connect to www.google.com in Firefox.12:02
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thenukechaps0063: oh I did not read your previous question :P12:02
SeveasTokenBad, ah hoary-extras from backports?12:02
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SeveasTuxicity, dns lookup timeout?12:02
chaps0063thenuke, hehe.12:02
apollo2011How do I find out where my internal modem is?12:03
Seveasapollo2011, open your pc and look :)12:03
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TokenBadyeah think so12:03
TokenBaddeb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java12:03
TokenBadand 2 others12:04
TokenBadand it downloaded it fine12:04
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ompaulseveas this looks like it about to try it out :) username all=(ifup) nopasswd12:04
refuze2loozehow do i force my CDRom drive to eject?12:04
Seveasrefuze2looze, eject /dev/hdc12:04
Razor-Xrefuze2looze: eject /dev/hdc12:04
TuxicitySeveas: I dont know. Everytime I try to connect to google.com, Firestarter blocks "Sun-RPC portmap"... What is this?12:04
Razor-Xerrr, uhhhmmm, there you are ;)12:05
hondjeTuxicity: Do you have an nfs server running or smoething?12:05
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Tuxicityhondje: AFAIK I have no NFS server running12:05
apollo2011no seriously, how do I find out what /dev/... entry it is12:06
hondjeTuxicity: hrm, try ps aux | grep portmap, see if it's running12:06
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LinuxJonesapollo2011, >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DialupModemHowto12:07
Tuxicityhondje: doesnt seem like it12:08
apollo2011LinuxJones; That doesn't help because it only tells you how to detect external or use /dev/modem which I tried and didn't work12:08
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hondjeTuxicity: then it beats the hell out of me why you get that :)12:08
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TokenBadhe I was going to download azureus for linux but what version to get?12:09
apollo2011kppp can not find:12:09
thoreauputicapollo2011: I assume this is a winmodem (internal) ?12:10
apollo2011I guess so...12:10
[freebsdExcuse me, I need help with a wireless card. I grabbed the working NDISWRAPPER installation .deb, installed it, and yay. My card is a Belkin G, F5D7010, and I already got the Drivers. Its PCMCIA, and I loaded it with -i.. I tried both the .sys, and the .inf, but both say Invalid Driver with -l. I've tried rebooting. Modprobe ndiswrapper complains that the Operation of inserting NDISWrapper isn't permitted. Any ideas?12:10
naliothTokenBad: any version will do12:10
thoreauputicapollo2011: if so, the driver should assign /dev/modem - do you *know* it's supported?12:10
thoreauputicapollo2011: if not, visit linmodems.org, and good luck12:11
TokenBadso linux gtx would work?12:11
Tuxicityhondje: I cant even load any website that has Google ads!12:11
TokenBador linux motif?12:11
thoreauputicapollo2011: buying a second hand hardware serial external modem will save you a lot of time and grief12:11
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TokenBador linux ppc?12:12
naliothTokenBad: linux gtk12:12
Razor-Xget gtk12:12
Razor-Xmotif is... ugghhh12:12
Razor-Xbut, let me warn you, Azureus has a bug where it eats the whole CPU12:12
chileverdeand ppc is.. mac12:12
[freebsdPPC > You.12:12
hondjeFor now12:12
naliothbut java is java12:13
Razor-Xchileverde: not really, Mac will be ported to the x8612:13
nalioth a jar is a jar is a jar12:13
Razor-X[freebsd: the processor yes, the OS, no ;)12:13
TokenBadwhats a bz2 file?12:13
[freebsdIts a compressed package12:13
naliothi run jar files on my mac all the time12:13
Razor-Xnalioth: btdownloadcurses is being a bitch12:13
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[freebsdlike a Zip, or a tar12:13
naliothTokenBad: it ws made with bzip2 (a file compressor)12:13
Razor-Xbz2 == BZip212:13
TokenBadopen it with gunzip?12:13
naliothRazor-X: so smack that bitch up12:13
[freebsdCan anyone help me with this Ndiswrapper issue?12:14
naliothTokenBad: bunzip212:14
Razor-Xnalioth: wish I could ;)12:14
adnans[freebsd, try ndiswrapper from CVS12:14
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Razor-XI can't get any speed on it, and have ports 6881-6899 on my router forwarded12:14
[freebsdadnans, would that require a full kernel rebuild?12:14
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sm-afkhi all, what should I enter in Preferred Applications to open a compose window with running thunderbird ?12:15
Razor-Xplus, it seems, the UPnP support sucks #^$*12:15
adnans[freebsd, checkout from CVS, then execute ndiswrapper/debian/rules binary, install the resulting .deb's12:15
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adnans[freebsd, nope, just the kernel-headers of your current kernel12:15
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naliothRazor-X: the devil with port forwarding, DMZ your whole machine12:15
shinuwhy doesnt my 'FLCL' folder show up when i do [tab]  but i can cd into it when i type out the full name myself?12:16
Razor-Xahhh, linux, surfing the web in a graphical browser, an ssh shell, music playing, all while an updatedb is in the background ;)12:16
konradHi, can you send me default /etc/modules? I've removed it :P12:16
Razor-Xnalioth: no, i'ld rather not ;)12:16
Turoqkonrad haha :D12:16
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naliothRazor-X: why not? linux is 99% bulletproof (from script kiddies)12:16
Razor-Xshinu: not added to the locatedb, is my guess12:16
konradI hope it is not hardware-specific12:16
[freebsdRazor, not true.12:16
chaps0063Is there anyway to adjust the brightness on my lcd on my laptop?12:16
Razor-Xnalioth: but, I don't boot into Linux 100%12:16
Lafitte-i need help with wireless problem...after screensaver and prompt for password    i loose connection and cant ever get dhcp again12:17
Razor-X[freebsd: go ahead then, I don't use BASH tab-complete myself ;)12:17
Seveaskonrad, http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/6412:17
naliothRazor-X: WHAT? no, j/k12:17
Lafitte-whats command to get dhcp to grab info from router ? i tried ifup eth012:17
Razor-Xnalioth: not my cohice12:17
konradSeveas: thanks12:17
Razor-Xas far as my dad knows, Linux doesen't exist on this machine12:17
naliothRazor-X: so DMZ it while you're in linux12:17
Razor-Xif it did, he'ld kill me12:17
SeveasLafitte-, shclient eth012:18
[freebsdRazor, theres more independent software you have to worry about on Linux, cant say its more secure unless you MAKE it secure12:18
Razor-Xpain in the ass, actually12:18
konradI have another problem, much more important12:18
shinuRazor-X: locatedb? 0.o but i dont think it needs to be in any such thing as other folders show up properly...12:18
konradI can't install newest NVIDIA driver12:18
shinujust this one...12:18
Lafitte-Seveas,  kewl  let me try that12:18
GNULinuxerguys, searching for PHP on synaptic yeilds no results ... is PHP in the ubuntu repo ?12:18
Razor-X[freebsd: but the scope of about 99% of the attacks is targeted to the Windows platform12:18
Seveaskonrad, install the linux-restricted-modules package from ubuntu, it has the latest driver12:18
LinuxJoneskonrad, can't you just stick the the current Hoary driver ?12:18
[freebsdYoud be suprised12:18
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SeveasGNULinuxer, libapache2-mod-php412:18
Razor-Xshinu: run updatedb (it'll take most of your CPU) and then try it12:18
TuxicitySeveas: what was that DNS stuff you were telling me?12:18
Lafitte-Seveas,  doesnt do anything for me12:18
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[freebsdWho would WANT to 'hax0r' someones little PC?12:18
Razor-Xand, enjoy your FLCL ;)12:19
Razor-Xhopefully in VLC ;)12:19
konradI had installed from DEB, hehe, I want to test CoolBits :)12:19
SeveasLafitte-, then you have no connection :)12:19
user_I would need help in a strange mount problem12:19
Razor-X(FLCL totally kicks ass)12:19
GNULinuxerSeveas, why won't just PHP yeild any results? suppose I want PHP5 or something ...12:19
konradLinuxJones: oveclocking fun with Coolbits12:19
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Lafitte-Seveas,  i am on it now12:19
SeveasGNULinuxer, have you enabled universe?12:19
tkieselHiya everyone.12:19
chaps0063My brightness keys do not function correctly on my Fujitsu Lifebook T4010 tablet, any ideas?12:19
nalioth[freebsd: ask the groups who run zombie fleets of 30,000 or more PCs on broadband12:19
user_We would like to mount an NTFS partition for all users12:19
Seveasand there is no php5 yet in ubuntu12:20
konrad-> Running runtime sanity check:12:20
Lafitte-Seveas,  bash: shclient: command not found12:20
konradERROR: The runtime configuration check failed for library12:20
user_but umask=000 doesn't work12:20
konrad       'libnvidia-tls.so.1.0.7664' (expected:12:20
konrad       '/usr/lib/tls/libnvidia-tls.so.1', found:12:20
konrad       '/usr/lib/libnvidia-tls.so.1').  The most likely reason for this is that12:20
konrad       conflicting OpenGL libraries are installed in a location not inspected12:20
konrad       by `nvidia-installer`.  Please be sure you have uninstalled any12:20
konrad       third-party OpenGL and third-party graphics driver packages.12:20
konrad-> done.12:20
konrad-> Runtime sanity check failed.12:20
user_the hdd is on RAID we think this is the problem12:20
ifhow install ati video drivers12:20
Seveaskonrad, do NOT paste in here!12:20
user_promise fasttrak 100 tx2 ata raid pci controller12:20
Seveasif: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/RestrictedFormats12:20
Razor-Xuser_: umask=022212:20
naliothuser_: you do know that writing to NTFS partitions is not suggestable yet (can cause permanent data loss)12:20
Seveasif: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto12:20
GNULinuxerSeveas, how do I enable universe ?12:20
Razor-Xerr, wait, writing?12:21
Seveassorry, just the last one12:21
user_yes I know12:21
Razor-XI thought you meant reading...12:21
SeveasGNULinuxer: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:21
user_we would like it for reading only12:21
user_but only root sees it now12:21
Razor-Xthen, umask=022212:21
thenukeGNULinuxer: www.ubuntuguide.org12:21
konradSeveas: Sorry :D12:21
user_thanks, giving a try12:21
Lafitte-Seveas,   oh  you typoes    heh e12:21
Seveasthenuke, ubuntuguide is wrong...12:21
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thenukeSeveas: oh :o ?12:22
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Lafitte-Seveas,  aww seems the same as ifup command does12:22
SeveasLafitte-, yes12:22
konradSeveas: do you have some ideas? of course I have uninstalled all DEBs with nvidia driver12:22
Seveasif you have eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, ifup just calles dhclient12:22
Lafitte-Seveas,  thanks  ill try this next time it happens (usually need reboot)12:22
Seveaskonrad, you should not use a driver fron nvidia.com12:23
cyphaseI've gone camping. Talk to everyone later. Leave me a message if you want.12:23
tkieselAnyone had trouble getting packages from marillat?12:23
Seveastkiesel, marillat should no longer be used, causes dependency problems12:24
GNULinuxerSeveas, thenuke thanks a lot ... got it12:24
konradSeveas: why not? OS drivers are crappy, and I always had newest drivers without any problem - I really need 3D acceleraion, and really want to test Coolbits :)12:25
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Seveaskonrad, because the ubuntu package has the latest driver...12:25
tkieselSeveas: Ahh. Okay. I'm prepping a Ubuntu box for a buddy of mine who's new to GNU/Linux. One thing he wants is mp3 support, etc. Where should I go to get some of those packages that were formerly in mariallat?12:25
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thenuketkiesel: did marillat have something to do with mp3 :O12:26
konradSeveas: no, it has 7174, i need 766412:26
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Seveastkiesel, codecs can be found on mplayerhq.hu12:26
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battlecatHi Ubunties!12:26
Seveasmplayer is in ubuntu multiverse12:26
Lafitte-Seveas,  then wy sometimes i require reboot to get eth0 to gather dhcp again ?    it can still scan Ap's12:26
naliothtkiesel: universe and multiverse12:26
LinuxJonestkiesel, you don't need Marillat for mp3 playback12:26
Seveaskonrad, ah then i missed the last update, sorry12:26
battlecatHas anyone noticed that script sites these days are just filled with redundant trash?12:26
chaps0063how do I get my lcd brightness to change based on ac/battery?12:26
thenuketkiesel: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs12:26
tkieselnalioth: Universe and multiverse don't have w32codecs.  Or do they?12:26
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naliothtkiesel: make sure you have your deb-src lines uncommented, in case you have to pkg somethings yourself12:26
Lafitte-chaps0063, ACPI12:27
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konradSeveas: I have newer libc6 in Ubuntu and updated kernel and it works :) a litle tricky12:27
Seveastkiesel, no but mplayerhq has12:27
konradSeveas: nvidia 7664 will be in Hoary or in breeze?12:27
naliothtkiesel: www.mplayerhq.org  and put them in /usr/local/lib/codecs12:27
Seveasonly in breezy12:27
newbie01has anybody an idea how to recover the partition marked in the screenshot ? http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png12:28
konradSeveas: need to make some "changes" in /var/lib/dokg/status (and avaiable) and /var/lib/apt/ubuntu(balbla)packages12:28
tkieselthenuke: Yeah, I know that. Doesn't work at present.12:28
chaps0063Lafitte-, i have it, how would I make adjustments with it?12:28
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Firsti_I have installed Eggdrop with apt-get, now I'm trying to start it but it says: "CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)", where is that config file?12:28
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user_thank u finally managed12:29
user_with umask=012:29
thenukeFirsti_: have you read any documents which came with that eggdrop?12:29
tkieselThanks all. I'll be able to get what I need there. :)12:29
Lafitte-chaps0063,  let me check into it a sec  mine does it with  lightsensor via hardware    dims in dark or what not12:29
Triffid_HunterFirsti_: eggdrop-installer maybe?12:29
SeveasFirsti_, read the documentation, this is not an eggdrop support channel...12:29
konradsystem thinks, that have newer libc6 that it have :)12:29
chaps0063Lafitte-, thanks.12:29
user_we don't understand - but works12:29
Firsti_Where is documents?12:29
Triffid_Hunteron my distro, it installs all the eggdrop stuff in /usr/share, then symlinks it all into individual bot folders12:29
konradnewbie01: what was this partition - fat?12:29
newbie01konrad, ext212:29
SeveasFirsti_, /usr/share/doc/eggdrop, or the eggdrop website (use google)12:29
Triffid_Hunterto save space, and be able to update them all at the same time12:30
shinuRazor-X: updatedb didnt really help... still cant do it...12:30
shinuRazor-X: when i do ls F* it doesnt show up...12:30
newbie01i already asked on #debian but the result was : learn how hard disks are organzied12:30
konradnewbie01: try this :)12:31
tkieselDinner time. Thanks for the help everyone. :)12:31
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konradnewbie01: I am not an expert in this, but it will be very hard to do this12:31
newbie01i usually get the point of rtfm but in this case all i need to recover and i dont have any clue of filesystems and that stuff12:31
TokenBadok question12:31
BockBilbowhats the name of the package with the source of the 2.6.10-5 kernel?12:31
flodineanyone got a geforce 5200 nvidia card12:31
TokenBadI am trying to download a torrent file..and save to a mounted drive12:31
TokenBadbut when try it says permission denied12:31
LinuxJonesnewbie01, is there anything of value on that partition ?12:32
konradflodine: i have that one12:32
SeveasTokenBad, make sure you have permission to write on that drive12:32
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flodinekonrad will it do 1900x120012:32
newbie01LinuxJones, yes : 25 high resolution scanns done with a nikon cool scan IV12:32
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Turoqi cant watch any mpg or avi movies, what packages i need to install ?=12:32
NazyrHowdy All12:32
LinuxJonesnewbie01, it's an ext2 partition /12:32
newbie01LinuxJones, and some emails which could get interesting in the court12:33
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newbie01LinuxJones, yes12:33
konradflodine: hehe, mymonitor works only with 1024x768 - don't ask me for that, check in documentation and on website :)12:33
thenukeTuroq: http://www.ubuntuguide.org12:33
thenukeTuroq: check that for codecs12:33
Nazyranyone know what would be causing a Kernel Panic - not syncing error?12:33
LinuxJonesnewbie01, do you have windows installed ?12:33
konradflodine: probably yes, if you had this in windows, in Linux will work too12:33
newbie01LinuxJones, yes i ve got a win2k system somewhere12:33
TokenBadthats the dir settings12:33
LinuxJonesnewbie01, you don't have partition magic per chance ?12:34
konradnewbie01: i have program to recover data from ext2, for windows, but never tested12:34
flodinekonrad ok my ubuntu wont come up im on xp and im dieing12:34
TokenBadthats my dir settings12:34
TokenBadlook same to me12:34
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newbie01newbie01, i see the chance to get it recovered much bigger with linux since its an ext 212:34
newbie01@ LinuxJones12:34
konradflodine: black screen? have you tried to do: crtol+alt+-12:34
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konradflodine: left cotrl and alt and - (minus)12:35
pfpare there any azureus users here? how much is your memory consumption typically?12:35
konradflodine: it wil change resolution to lower12:35
thenukeTuroq: oh and just about _everyone_ who is directed to follow that guide, skips the 2. part of those guidelines when it says "Read How to add extra repositories?" .. so please do that also before asking what to do when the thrid line of the quote wont work :D12:35
Nazyrcan anyone help with a issue on a AMD64 NForce4 installation problem?12:35
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flodinewell i want to run it at 1900x120012:35
konradflodine: or better reconfigure your Xorg12:35
Turoqthenuke roger :P12:36
naliothNazyr: we need to know the problem12:36
konradflodine: too hight resolution - I have to go, ask for this12:36
ifhow can i get kernel source with apt-get12:36
konradflodine: ask how to change resolution refresh rate in xorg in ubuntu with dpkg-reconfigure12:36
pfpif: apt-cache search kernel source12:36
konradflodine: and find your monitor documentation - wil need it12:36
TokenBadSeveas, my home dir which I can write to..12:36
flodinebut the card dont support my size12:37
TokenBadand the dir that I want to write to12:37
NazyrNalioth: I was able to get the base installation finished .. but before I can install ATI drivers I get a kernel panic - not syncing error and system is then frozen12:37
TokenBadhave the same settings12:37
LinuxJonesif, for current version sudo apt-get install linux-source-$(uname -r)12:37
TokenBadso how can I write to it12:37
thoreauputicif: apt-cache search linux-source actually12:37
naliothNazyr: i run PPC machines, but someone in here (perhaps now perhaps later) can help12:37
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Nazyrthanks Nalioth12:38
gabachocan anyone help me with icecast2?12:38
TokenBadhow man I make sure i have write access to a dir?12:38
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naliothTokenBad: use google "mounting partitions linux fstab"12:39
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gabachoany help here?12:40
TokenBadnalioth,  the drive is mounted12:40
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TokenBadand I can see it in my root terminal12:40
NetGeekis security.archive.ubuntu.com down also?12:41
TokenBadbut if I using a program to save to that under my user account12:41
naliothTokenBad: but is it mounted with full 'all-user' read/write priveleges?12:41
Equinox_One of my disks is acting badly(root fs) but I have two other ide disks (/dev/hda /dev/hdb).. I want to copy the data to one of them but in the fsck shell at boot time I can't mount them12:41
TokenBadI think so12:41
Equinox_The devices don't exist, my thernet card doesn't exist12:41
Equinox_Any idea what is going on?12:41
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naliothTokenBad: if so, you should have 0 problems writing data to anywhere12:41
Equinox_I mknod'd them but it says invalid block device when i try to mount it.. Probably something with devfs12:41
Luakagonfirst of all, thank all of you that have highlighted me with helpful information,  I am truly grateful that youve taken the time to help me with my computer problems.  I really need help though, to get my wireless internet working, I am trying to compile ndiswrapper.  I'm open...12:42
calchmm package rgmanager has a good description12:42
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TokenBadhow to tell if it is set to all-user read/write?12:42
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shinugoes vorbis-tools include the ogg-splitter?12:43
thoreauputicTokenBad: users,rw12:43
naliothTokenBad: do the google12:43
FR500Luakagon, i did that 2 days ago12:43
FR500Luakagon, whats the prob?12:43
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LuakagonI'lll privmsg you12:44
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TokenBadI did12:44
TokenBadthe page only talks about floppys and cdroms12:44
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naliothTokenBad: i do not have a x86 machine in front of me, but i've set up 3 clients in the last 3 weeks using fstab data i found via google, no client has had any trobule with their systems12:45
naliothTokenBad: there are far more links than cdroms and floppys12:45
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thoreauputicTokenBad: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html12:46
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TokenBadok how come I don't see the mounted drive in fstab?12:47
TokenBadbut I can access the drive?12:47
TokenBadand even send files from that drive12:47
flodinecan someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not12:47
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naliothTokenBad: YOU have to edit the fstab12:48
thoreauputicTokenBad: either you are misreading fstab, or you need to add an entry12:48
naliothTokenBad: and if you can read/write to the drive now, i don't have a clue why you can't write to a certain directory on it12:48
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newbie01still the partition recover topic here : http://pastebin.com/298634 is the result of testdrive "deep search" / http://img247.echo.cx/my.php?image=snapshot18gt.png  where the marked partition is the one i need to recover. really need help12:50
xryDoes Ubuntu Live-CD support shred?12:51
naliothxry: r u using the livecd now?12:51
xryno, downloading..12:51
naliothxry: if so, open a terminal and type "shred" w/o any arguments12:51
FR500HrdwrBoB, you told me how to set KSRC to the correct path the other day, do you remember how?12:51
xryIs shred secure? Don't want people to read my data after formatting ;)12:52
Turoqhmm i installed those codecs but now when i open .avi, i hear sounds but i dont see anything12:52
thoreauputicxry: given that the live CD is a virtual clone of an install, and the install includes shred, my guess is yes12:52
naliothxry: to use shred properly, it takes days12:52
thoreauputicxry: depends how paranoid you want to be12:53
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xrySo shred is secure? Just you have to use it right?12:53
marshHey! I've written a script, but I'm a bit noob... could someone have a look and tell me why I'm getting a list of all the vars on my system before it does it's work???12:53
naliothxry: depending on the amount of data you are using it on, proper use can take days12:53
thoreauputicxry: you can also overwrite with random data and or zeros12:53
xrySending my (almost) defective harddrive back to the shop i got it from, just wanted to format it secure first12:53
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marshxry - can you not just dd it with random numbers?12:54
naliothxry: easiest way is industrial magnet12:54
xryThen i found Active Killdisk, but it doesn't support SATA, then someone told me about ubuntu and shred12:54
naliothxry: shred will do the trick12:54
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xryLive-CD have built in drivers for SATA?12:55
TokenBadI edited fstab12:55
marshNo-one up for helping me with me script? it's only little... :o(...12:55
TokenBaddo I need to reboot for it to work?12:55
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thoreauputicTokenBad:  just type sudo mount -a12:55
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naliothTokenBad: no, just issue a mount command (unmount your drive if it is already mounted)12:56
draskohi all. How to go to the gnome applications menu in nautilus... Writing applications:// don't work12:57
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Razor-Xhmmm... I don't know if it's good for my sister's development by letting her listen to Japanese music at such an early age....12:57
Grumblyhey, I am needin' some help configuring a g4 cube12:57
Grumblyanybody versed?12:58
Razor-Xg4 cube?12:58
TokenBadwhen try umount12:58
Razor-Xa 4th dimensional cube?12:58
TokenBadit says device is busy12:58
Razor-XTokenBad: that's because something is using it, of course12:58
GrumblyRazor-X: no- a macintosh with a g4 ppc processor12:58
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Razor-XGrubly: ahhh, ;)12:59
TokenBadright but don't have anything going but my terminal12:59
TokenBadand xcat12:59
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naliothGrumbly: whatcha got?12:59
dhruvi need help, can anyone help?12:59
Razor-Xsorry, I don't know much about PPC processors myself, other than they're kickass and have a shitload of registers12:59
GrumblyAfter installation, NO GDM.  says it's not configured correctly12:59
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Razor-XTokenBad: xchat could be running in the mount directory, or one of your terminals can be too12:59
Grumblynalioth: g4 450mhz Cube.  ATI vid card, but not a good one01:00
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naliothGrumbly: using hoary?01:00
dhruv<-------------------------------- NEEDS HELP!!01:00
Razor-Xdhruv: shoot01:00
Grumblythats the new one, right?01:00
dhruvi downloaded limewire, and installed it01:00
Razor-Xnalioth: hmm, I was toying with an idea of making a counter for the newbie gods, for every person we help, we add 1 ;)01:00
dhruvi now see it in applications>internet>limewire01:01
dhruvbut it wont run01:01
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Razor-Xand by the end of the day, whoever helps the most, they get bragging rights ;)01:01
Grumblythe error it gives me is something about cyrillic, but I didnt even set that up01:01
naliothGrumbly: follow this and choose vesa instead of ati  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:01
naliothRazor-X: that is so gauche01:01
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dhruvrazor do you know why?01:01
sascha_hi, how can I change the standard language of my system?01:02
Razor-Xdhruv: hmmm01:02
Luakagongauche means ackward too01:02
Razor-Xtype limewire in a console01:02
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hondje"I did something that didnt' work. why didn't it work." :)01:02
psychonate|awayHas anyone set up a Voodoo 2 in Ubuntu?01:02
dhruvwhere is the console01:02
dhruvthe terminal?01:02
Razor-XLuakagon: heh, well, haven't heard it used it too often01:02
naliothdhruv: try gtk-gnutella instead of limewire01:02
Razor-Xdhruv: uh, yeah, sorry01:02
flodinecan someone tell me will ubuntu support 1900x1200 or not01:02
Razor-Xflodine: yeah, it does01:03
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naliothflodine: yes01:03
thoreauputicflodine: I guess that depends on your vid card more than on Ubuntu per se01:03
Razor-Xnalioth: even using bittornado's btdownloadcurses doesen't help01:03
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dhruvrazor x where do i get that?01:03
geneo93well i got my kppp issue fixed01:03
naliothRazor-X: help what?01:03
flodinewill a nvidia fx 5200 work01:03
Razor-Xdhruv: click terminal, and type 'limewire'01:03
Razor-Xnalioth: speed01:03
dhruvi did01:03
hondjeflodine: probably, if you monitor supports that01:03
dhruvit said its not a command01:04
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Razor-Xwhat ports does it use by default?01:04
hondjeI can't imagine that resolution and not being at like 60Hz though01:04
Razor-Xdhruv: try "locate *limewire*"01:04
geneo93dhruv:  is it a jar file01:04
Razor-Xno, not limewire, I was asking nalioth01:04
sascha_can anybody help with languagechange please?01:04
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hondjesascha_: I missed it, summarize?01:05
jindThe sound in gnome does not work. Does anybody know of a fix? The problem is only in Gnome.01:05
dhruvthere is only a       xml01:05
dhruvthats it01:05
jindBtw, I use Hoary01:05
thoreauputicsascha_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales01:05
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Cal[] JohnGuys, how to I run python programs?  Sorry, i'm brand new.01:05
Cal[] John*how do i01:05
Razor-Xthe shitty thing about locate is that, the database is updated so infrequently............01:05
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naliothRazor-X: 6881, but you should change it in the rc file to 43000>01:05
sascha_hondje, I would like to change my standard language for ONE user to english01:05
Razor-XCal[] John: type in the name of the program, and of you go01:05
geneo93python (file)01:05
Razor-Xnalioth: hmmm, I see01:05
dhruvRAzor X, so what do i use to download music01:05
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hondjesascha_: easy enough01:06
Razor-Xdhruv: quite a few things01:06
naliothdhruv: gtk-gnutella01:06
dhruvhow do i get that?01:06
Cal[] Johnhmmm, must be something wrong with were the install put it01:06
dhruvhow do i download gtk gnutella01:06
Luakagongood question Cal[] John :D01:06
Razor-Xdhruv: emule, Gnutella (same network as Limewire), BitTorrent, and others01:06
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dhruvemule is slow as hell01:06
sascha_hondje, ??01:06
dhruvim downloading at .901:06
naliothdhruv: use synaptic01:06
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Razor-Xdhruv: not if you download it for a while01:07
dhruvits been downloading for a while01:07
Cal[] JohnLuakagon: sorry  it's just that I googled and googled, but there wasn't anywhere that actually said :)01:07
dhruvas time goes by and im getting close to finnishing, it gets slower and slower01:07
Razor-Xthe thing that most people don't try and understand about emule is that, you have to share for about a day, or so, before speeds pick up01:07
LuakagonI dont know either is why I said its a good question01:07
Razor-Xbut then, _all_ your downloads speeds will increase01:07
Razor-Xthe longer you keep sharing files, and uploading, the higher your speed will get01:08
hondjesascha_: sudo apt-get install language-support-en language-pack-en language-pack-en-base01:08
moquiRazor-X, why is that? is there a point system?01:08
jason^hey dudes, in gaim, sounds are not playing right, they only play like half of a second or so, is there any fix for that?01:08
hondjesascha_: then you should be able to pick english as your language in the GDM login screen01:08
Razor-Xit's a strictly give-get relationship, which most people don't like, because they do the getting part, and not a giving part01:08
Razor-Xmoqui: very useful if you like to stay on a P2P 24/701:08
sascha_hondje, hmmmm, going to try01:08
moquiRazor-X, so you get something like karma points for staying on and sharing longer01:09
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dhruvrazor is the gnetuella thing like the give-get thing too?01:10
KleggasI just installed apache2 with php4 following http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LAMPForHoary and it doesn't work. anyone have any idea whats missing in that page?01:10
naliothdhruv: bittorrent is the give-get thang01:11
dhruvwtf... razor just said emule is01:11
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dhruvmy download keeps going slower and slower on emule, im at freaking .4 right now01:11
moquinalioth, bittorrent is good for downloading the latest distros01:11
thoreauputicKleggas: interesting that you make the assumption it's the page that is wrong...01:11
naliothmoqui: indeed it is01:12
Kleggasthechitowncubs: sure, why not? it says how to install it, and it doesn't work :p01:12
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moquihello Gus01:12
naliothmoqui: and creative-commons licensed videos and audio01:12
moquinalioth, absolutely01:12
hondjeI hate when people say that crap, like it's not an obvious lie nalioth :P01:12
thoreauputicKleggas: It must be great to be infallible ... ;-)01:12
Kleggasthoreauputic: nah, sometimes it is, sometimes not01:13
naliothhondje: i have to set a good example in here01:13
Kleggasthechitowncubs: any idea what to do or u just sit here and talk?01:13
naliothhondje: no matter how seedy and depraved my personal life is01:13
hondjewell, can't argue with that :)01:13
Gusi'm trying to install firefox's plugin for totem, but everytime i load a file, it says "cannot open fd:\\0" or something...01:13
Gusanyone have any idea for me ? =)01:14
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Gusi've tried following this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23257&page=2 but instead of just not working for GIFs it doesn't work for anything =/01:15
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 2hi guys, i'm andrea. i need a hand about a problem with psnup..... lately it happens that if i wanna print a multipage of 4 pages it is printed in the following (wrong) layout01:16
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 23 101:16
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Tallia1[UbuntU] 2but i'd like this layout:01:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] 21 201:16
psychonate|awayDoes Hoary use devfs?01:16
Tallia1[UbuntU] 23 401:16
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: just a guess: portrait vs landscape?01:17
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2nope..01:17
godberanyone seen an md5sum mismatch error with bluez-utils off of the us mirrors?01:17
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2the layouts i've just shown you is portrait both01:18
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godberlike this01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2are*01:18
godber"Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bluez-pin/bluez-pin_0.24-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch"01:18
Gusnoone to help me with totem and firefox ?01:18
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: i meant, hav eyou tried it the other way?01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2?01:18
syndgodber: i got this Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch01:18
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2what do you mean?01:18
psychonate|awayDoes Hoary use devfs?01:18
nickrudpsychonate no01:18
psychonate|awaythank you01:18
ablyssis it too much to ask what devfs and udev or?01:19
thoreauputicTallia1[UbuntU] 2: if you rotate that layout 90 degrees, you have the other one01:19
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ablyssi know what /dev is but.. not udev or devfs01:19
TokenBadok...I mounted and redit it..even rebooted machine01:19
nickrudablyss very broadly, they populate /dev for you automatically01:19
TokenBadand still can't write to that drive01:19
TokenBadI give up01:19
naliothGus: try back later01:20
ablyssnickrud :)01:20
TokenBadhow come it will not init the base sound services01:20
psychonate|awayHow can I see what groups I am or add myself to a new group?01:20
Gusnalioth, yup, i'll have to do that =P01:20
nickrudablyss devfs is pretty much dead, udev is current01:20
naliothTokenBad: don't give up01:20
ablyssgot it ty01:20
naliothTokenBad: there are many ways to have the line in fstab01:20
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miraclebluewow, is everyone asleep?01:21
rabbit_anyone use vlan?01:22
miraclebluenope, guess not01:22
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zukalkrabbit: you mean vlc?01:22
rabbit_zukalk: yup01:22
zukalkbut sometimes it can't read what xine cna01:22
miracleblueheya guys, hows it going?01:22
rabbit_zukalk: when I tried to install it last time it said it was missing libraries, where do you go to get these missing libraries?01:23
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zukalki guess it's the wxWidgets01:23
miracleblueim trying to get ubuntu to play mp3s, and it hates me01:23
zukalkhow did you try to install?01:23
rabbit_zukalk: like ffmepeg and some other stuff01:23
miracleblueit just wont do it01:23
Amaranthmiracleblue: you need the gstreamer-mad package01:23
rabbit_zukalk: with a different distros rpm01:24
zukalkrabbit: did you follow the multimedia steps in ubuntuguide?01:24
naliothmiracleblue: have you enabled universe and multiverse01:24
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miracleblueah, i see, through the synaptic package manager ^_^ no i havent, ill give that a try right now01:24
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rabbit_zukalk: nope, went to the vlc hiome page and did whatever distro was there01:24
rabbit_firgured linux was linux01:24
zukalkwhat's the url?01:24
rabbit_one sec01:25
Razor-Xrabbit_: sudo apt-get vlc01:25
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jonohi all01:25
rabbit_zukalk: wait  a minute, there is an ubuntu guide for vlc?01:25
zukalkrazor's right, apt-get should solve everything01:25
thoreauputicRazor-X: erm .. sudo apt-get install vlc01:25
jonohow do I check the name severs for my domain are known by the top level registrar?01:25
zukalkrabbit_ : a guide for ubuntu, generally speaking: www.ubuntuguide.org01:25
miraclebluenalioth: im just enabling it now, so the package name is gstreamer-mad?01:26
zukalki'm guessing you're new to it, like me01:26
rabbit_zukalk: I'll go there and try that one, thanks01:26
zukalkrabbit_ like razor-x said, try using the command ' sudo apt-get install vlc '01:26
rabbit_zukalk: I am new to everything linux except the installation process..did it like 3 or 4 times already01:27
naliothmiracleblue: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu add this one too01:27
rabbit_Razor-X: oh ok, cool, thanks01:27
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miraclebluethanks ^_^01:27
rabbit_zukalk: will do01:27
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geetergodCan someone walk me through hard to install a new soundcard?01:28
geetergodide appreciate it01:28
miracleblueim incredibly new to linux, i only managed to get pppoe working by the skin of my teeth and 3 days of learning command line the hard way before giving up and burning roaring penguin's pppoe thingy to disc01:28
novaflareahh finaly got the look i want for my desk top01:29
lurahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA --->http://msmvps.com/gplthedarkside/articles/856.aspx01:29
novaflarea deep dark read color heh01:29
miraclebluemy desktop is purdy...sorta01:29
miraclebluewell i tried01:29
zukalkmiracleblue: have faith, i was in the same situation a month ago. you'll see, after solving your probs, you won't ever want windows again ;)01:29
novaflareand i mean real dark heheh01:29
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nobilebrb reboot01:29
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max00Hi, if you want the last starwars episode (revenge of the sith - FullDivx 2X700MB), you can download it at: www.starwars-fr.org/xxl/01:30
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miraclebluezukalk: i dloaded linux to get away from windows in the first place ^_^ been using it for 10 years, im sick of it, and my apple died 4 months after getting it, and i dont wanna be stuck on windows again01:30
JovenComunistahow can i install the gift-fasttrack plugin for the apollon?01:30
geetergodIf someone has a sec i could use help installing my new soundcard01:30
miraclebluezukalk: so ive now had linux for 3 days01:30
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zukalkmiracleblue: well, at least you *tried* avoiding microsoft through apple, it's a start :P01:31
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miraclebluezukalk: i loved my apple, i love Mac OS X more than any OS in the world, it's just that the logic board is gonna cost $850 to replace, money which i donty have, so i thought, for the time being, why not get linux for my pc?01:32
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naliothmiracleblue: they did not replace your logic board at no charge?01:33
miraclebluenalioth: no, im not under warranty01:33
hondjeI just got the logic board in the missus' mini mac replaced01:33
hondjewarranty == goodness01:34
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naliothmiracleblue: i take it you bought a 'pre-owned' mac?01:34
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hondjeBut now it runs slower, unstable.  Damn apple...01:34
geetergodCan someone help me install my new soundcard?01:34
miraclebluenalioth: yep.  thats the wonders of ebay01:34
miraclebluenalioth: I wanted that exact model powerbook for 4 years before i got it.  1 gig ram, 2 extra batteries, 15 inch, it was a dream01:35
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miraclebluenalioth: a dream that ended quite abruptly 4 months later01:35
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naliothmiracleblue: the next dream can come from the apple store (they give away refurbs every day)01:35
thoreauputicJovenComunista: shouting and repeating won't help you01:35
Xyc0um, that BT tracker has been down for a while now, its not hard to set a new one up01:35
hondjeEntertaining theatrics might, though01:36
miraclebluenalioth: ah if my apple store did that i'd know about it.  might check that though, i dont think they do.  i'm in australia, hurrah01:36
Xyc0Or you could recite a lymric01:36
JovenComunistayou neither01:36
xozthe next dream is to have pc that can switch from windows to mac to linux anytime without reboot01:36
miraclebluenalioth: okie dokie, im installing the g-streamer-mad package and a bunch of other gstreamer stuff along with it01:37
Tallia1[UbuntU] 2hey guys, someone knows if is there a configuration file for psnup?01:37
naliothmiracleblue: are you on a PPC machine now, by chance?01:37
Xyc0How do you change the splash screen in gnome, im too used to KDE01:37
naliothxoz wait a couple years01:37
Razor-XXyc0: limeric?01:37
miraclebluenalioth: no.  if i was, it would be my powerbook, and it wouldnt be running linux01:37
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Xyc0Razor-X: limerick01:38
nickrudTallia1[UbuntU] 2 a quick way to get a list of a packages conf files is dpkg -L | grep ^/etc01:38
Razor-Xahhh, my bad ;)01:38
geetergodcan someone help me install new soundcard?01:39
miracleblueYES!!  its working!!!01:39
Xyc0There was a young girl called Denise ,01:39
Xyc0She lived all her life on the streets .01:39
Xyc0In need of a prayer .01:39
Xyc0Her pockets were bare .01:39
Xyc0She died in the arms of a priest .01:39
miraclebluenalioth: thank you very much ^_^ i cant live without my music01:39
Xyc0Thats a sad one pfft01:39
hondjegood lymric01:39
Xyc0I can find better01:39
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geetergodnalioth, can you help me too? :)01:40
Razor-XHaikus are better ;)01:40
hondjeonly to people who watch anime :p01:40
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Razor-Xgeetergod: what kind of soundcard is it?01:40
Xyc0How do you change splash screens in Gnome?  I'm too used to KDE.01:40
Razor-Xhondje: so what if I watch anime? I liked haikus before anime ;)01:40
geetergodChaintech 7.1channel PCI01:40
geetergodi hear everything, just cant get my center and surround speakers workin01:41
hondjeRazor-X: a hah! I was right! :D01:41
Razor-Xgeetergod: what is your soud daemon?01:41
Razor-Xheheh ;)01:41
Razor-Xwas it my "FLCL kicks ass" that brought your attention to that?01:41
geetergodwhere do i go ot check?01:41
naliothgeetergod: i can only point u to the wiki01:41
Xyc0wow, i just found out that there is a Linus project called Xyc001:41
Razor-Xdo you have Ubuntu or Kubuntu?01:41
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IIIEarsis soud daemon an arab leader?01:42
miraclebluewow, the multiverse packages make life for a n00b linux user so much easier its not funny01:42
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geetergodwhere to check the sound daemon that is01:42
jonohi all, can someone point me at a python pygtk applet for gnome? I want to write a panel applet and need some sample source01:42
Razor-XIIIEars: Arab names don't sound like that ;)01:42
Razor-Xmiracleblue: wait till you graduate n00b acaemy01:42
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draskohi all. I have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.01:42
naliothmiracleblue: stay away from 'backports'01:42
FR500miracleblue, you can download the tar.gzs with firefox if you want fun01:42
Razor-Xgeetergod: well, generally, Ubuntu uses ALSA/ESD, while Kubuntu uses ARTS/ALSA01:42
eruindrasko, thats normal01:42
naliothmiracleblue: they'll make your n00b life more diffecult01:42
hondjewhat about my n00b life01:43
eruindrasko, since there's no such thing ;-)01:43
Razor-Xhondje: you're a n00b?01:43
jrichethis upgrading of pacakges01:43
jricheis fucking slow01:43
jricheare there any ubuntu package mirrors?01:43
hondjeRazor-X: It's all relative, I guess01:43
FR500jriche, i'm dlding at 89kb/s01:43
Razor-Xjriche: I get about 80 kb/s, myself01:43
jricheRazor-X, i get like 1401:43
Razor-Xhondje: I know i'm not perfect, that's for sure01:43
miraclebluenalioth: thats how i was trying to do it before, it was so frustrating01:43
jricheRazor-X, i think its the general internet actaully01:43
jrichelemme see if i can fuck with it01:43
Xyc0United n00b Academy has a great environment for pwnage and w00t instruction.  Should you be interested in joining UNA, contact our 1337 campus locations.01:44
Razor-Xjriche: then, you cn't do that much :\01:44
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Razor-Xwhat about prerequisities?01:44
Razor-X4.0 in Windows usage01:44
geetergodRazor-x, i go to System, Pref. Multimedia System Selector...01:44
jrichepinging freenode.net01:44
zukalkjriche, i usually get 200+kb/s when i use apt-get01:44
jrichei get 52ms01:44
Razor-X3.3 or better in patience01:44
IIIEarsjriche - none too quick here either poor internet weather. - new windows worm?01:44
geetergodand set default Source to ALSA, and theres no sound01:44
Razor-Xgeetergod: mmmm, nevermind then, you use ESD01:44
geetergodbut i set it to that in Default sink and test it and theres sound01:44
geetergodFailed to construct test pipeline for 'ESD - Enlightenment Sound Daemon01:45
geetergodthats what it says when i try ESD01:45
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Razor-Xdoes Ubuntu use ARTs?01:45
geetergodALSA makes a beeping sound when i test in Default Sink01:46
Xyc0Pre-reqs vary from campus to campus.  Should you be accepted to Gates is Satan Incarnate Hall, GSIH, be sure to be fluent in demonic speak from the 7th lvl of Hell.01:46
Grumblynalioth: you here?01:46
Razor-Xnalioth: seems you have a fan club ;)01:46
hondjebecause he's not a n00b like me01:46
Razor-Xwell, I help too -_-01:46
GrumblyI need some more help with my mac01:47
Grumblyany idea why it's not detecting my hardware?01:47
hondjeheh, I provide genuine troll commentary.  None of that lame, blatant and unsophisticated drivel you encounter so much these days01:47
Grumblymy graphics card is agp not pci01:48
IIIEarshondje lol01:48
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Grumblyand I am not familiar with macs enough to know how to set that01:48
Grumblynor am I familiar enough with linux01:48
jrichemy rage 128 kicks your 6800's ass01:48
IIIEarshondje the droll troll.01:48
Grumblyjriche: hmmm... ok01:49
hondjeI am to trolling what /. is to bringing down a server :-)01:49
Xyc0How do you change the Splash Screen in Gnome?01:49
Razor-Xgeetergod: ahh, sorry, not sure what to do01:49
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Razor-XI can only say, browse the wikis, and grumble around the forums01:49
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Razor-XXyc0: ask the bleating gnome users ;)01:49
Razor-Xa KDE user can'thelp you there01:49
Xyc0I could answer that question in KDE01:49
geetergodrazor-x, k :(01:50
naliothGrumbly: yes01:50
Grumblyhondje:  you mean to say hondje:trolling:: /.: killing servers01:50
Razor-Xso could I, Xyc001:50
hondjeGrumbly: ah, that's much better01:50
GrumblyRazor-X: I have been01:50
Grumblykinda stuck01:50
geetergodI assume i just plug the colored plugs into the same colors in the sound card right?01:50
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Xyc0Trolling is only fun when you are making fun of another troll01:50
Xyc0Satisfaction in hypocracy01:50
Razor-XGrumbly: I meant that for geetergod ;)01:50
pfpXyc0: http://art.gnome.org01:50
naliothGrumbly: where we at?01:50
hondjeNo, the best trolling is when you get funding for it01:50
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hondjeFor example, 'Dark energy' and 'dark matter'01:51
Razor-Xi'm going to kick BitTorrent!01:51
pfpXyc0: http://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q801:51
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hondjeTotal BS, but the guys who came up with it are rico suave now, thanks to mega buck from various foundations01:51
Razor-Xif this wasn't a high-traffic channel, you'ld here some nice curse words come out of my e-throat ;)01:51
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Xyc0thank you pfp, they obviously don't like to keep it simple01:52
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hondjeRazor-X: that's why you get your own chan, then you can be a maniac all you want :)01:52
pfpbtw, does anyone think that 440M mem usage (-4M shr) is normal for azureus?01:52
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hondjeI'd say that any app for a desktop user that is taking up 440M better be editing video01:53
naliothpfp:  HOW many torrents you have running?01:53
hondjecan't blame java for coding _that_ bad01:53
naliothpfp: no not normal01:53
pfpumm, somewhere between 8-12 torrs01:53
eruinjava is to memory what I am to grolsch lager01:54
pfpwell, it's _delivering_ video though :P01:54
naliothGrumbly: how are we doing?01:54
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pfpnalioth: that's what i figured. i think it started when i upgraded to hoary01:54
hondjemmmm, grolsch01:54
naliothpfp: well, perhaps there is a newer bin of java available01:55
pfphmm, what kind of beer is grolsch?01:55
IIIEarsmm - pepsi and pound bags of cheetos - brain food.01:55
hondjepfp: dutch01:55
Razor-Xpfp: Azureus just uses all my CPU, and cripples me01:55
xozsun and microsoft have big investments to memory-manufacturer companies01:55
naliothRazor-X: what specs on yer system?01:55
_kevini have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast01:55
Razor-Xnalioth: 256 MB RAM, 1.6 ghz P401:56
Razor-Xit was working fine, until this new version update01:56
bigbill52awindows programs are getting so fat and slow01:56
naliothRazor-X: need way more ram01:56
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Razor-Xnalioth: why did it suddenly start dying?01:56
Razor-Xnalioth: and why doesen't any other BT client work?01:56
IIIEarsRazor-X - 80mgs is ubuntu - there should be enough.01:56
zukalk_kevin : i think Samba should do the job. can't remember if i had do any configuring01:56
pfpweissbier is very nice... altough too expensive up here :/01:56
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Razor-X_kevin: my suggestion is a tftp server01:57
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geetergodRazor-x, well where would you go to add new hardware?01:57
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Grumblynalioth: help me please.  I dont know what kind of gfx card I've got.  Where do I look?  All I know is that it's an AGP card01:57
_kevintftp would be slow since i would go through the internet, or will it be smart and go throught he home router directly and send file very fast?01:57
naliothGrumbly: at the terminal type "lspci"01:57
xozGrumbly: lspci01:57
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Razor-Xgeetergod: hotplug should manage that for you, can't remember offhand the command to reconfigure sound01:58
naliothRazor-X: have you updated your core java?01:58
ngoehringanyone here running icecast2?01:58
Razor-X_kevin: as long as you specify a local IP, _all_ connections will go through locally01:58
_kevinngoehring goto #icecast there you can get all the help01:58
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Razor-Xnalioth: less than a week ago01:58
IIIEars - "$ sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 " and do _not_ do the permanent "vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf", or a different command will do the same01:58
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_kevinok thanks Razor-X01:58
ngoehring_kevin, thanks man01:58
geetergodJust weird that i got a 7.1 card now yet it still wont play the center and surround speakers01:58
pfpnalioth, Razor-X what java re / sdk do you have?01:59
IIIEarsRazor-X ==Swappiness===- "$ sudo sysctl -w vm.swappiness=10 " and do _not_ do the permanent "vm.swappiness=10 to /etc/sysctl.conf", or a different command will do the same01:59
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geetergodand its a 5.1 speaker system01:59
Razor-Xyeah, thanks IIIEars01:59
naliothpfp: i do not run java on thie iBook01:59
Razor-Xpfp: lemme see01:59
zukalkcya lads01:59
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hondjewhy mess with swappiness? :)01:59
pfpheh, mine's 1.5.0_0102:00
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Grumblyisnt there some autoconfig script for X11?02:00
GrumblyI dont know most of the info I need for this reconfigure util02:00
IIIEarsRazor-X larger numbers use the swap file default is 6002:00
cuscoplease take a minute of your time to read http://petition.eurolinux.org02:00
Razor-XIIIEars: okay, i'm hoping this'll help02:01
draskoeruin, how do you mean. I used to access applications menu via nautius...02:01
_kevintftp is command line? or User interface? I prefer something with user Interface02:01
Razor-Xstill, I don't know if it's a flaw or not, only because it happened after the version update, and other BT clients are sucking02:01
naliothsorry folks, but g2g2wrk02:01
hondjetftp is command line, _kevin02:01
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Razor-X_kevin: commandline02:01
_kevinahh i need a info file then to set it up02:01
Razor-Xafter the Azureus update, rather02:02
Razor-X_kevin: there's a man page on almost everything, tftpd included02:02
hondjeheh, bzflag2 drops into hoary quite smoothly02:02
Razor-Xmake sure to apt-get it, though02:02
_kevinis there any alternative way withouth using the command line02:02
_kevinsome mentioned Samba02:02
Razor-X_kevin: tftp tends to me nice and hassle free for me02:03
Razor-Xand fast02:03
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Razor-Xhmmm, anyways, i'm off to shower, since BT isn't *(&*(& working!!!02:03
_kevinwell I wanna see what i wanna download ont he windows machines from my linux machine02:03
hondje_kevin: any reason you can't use scp?02:03
hondjeway easier02:04
_kevini don't know i came here and asked02:04
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IIIEarshondje scp?02:04
_kevinI'll state my initial question02:04
_kevini have two computers One Ubuntu (This One) and one Windows Xp Home, they are both connect to through a router to a cable connection, Now My Question is I have some file on the linux that i would like to transfer over to the Windows Xp machine... How would i go about setting up this network... so i can send file fast02:04
Xappewinscp is free and quite nice02:04
hondjeIIIEars: oh man, you're missing out.  Basically cp over network, part of the ssh tools02:04
hondje_kevin: the winscp02:04
MaggotI keep getting errors while trying to install xfonts-base during instalation02:04
IIIEarsHm - sounds nice - Eureka! got the link.02:05
_kevinhonje bascially i wanna be able to access my home folder from my windows machine temporarily till i can just copy over some song ont eh windows machines which has a faster burner02:05
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HerdsmanMarengohow do i setup root access in ubuntu02:05
MaggotSuch as Buffer i/o error on decive HDA locigcal block #####02:05
hondje_kevin: all you have to do for that is sudo apt-get install ssh, download winscp, and read the commnads - way simple too02:05
HerdsmanMarengoit never game me the option to do it02:05
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Maggotwhat can I try to get it to install?02:05
Adrosshas anyone had much success converting avi's and mpg's to ogg?02:05
hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: no root by default in ubuntu02:05
Xappehondje: that should be openssh-server02:06
hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: use sudo instead02:06
hondjeXappe: whoops, yes indeedy :)02:06
Adrossoh, and thoreauputic and Burgundavia thanks for all your help yesterday. I managed to fix it, but i couldn't of done it without you02:06
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hondjeHerdsmanMarengo: sudo 'command you'd run as root'02:07
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hondjeand all the GUI apps that want a passwd just want your user passwd02:07
kimoirda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)02:07
pfpRazor-X: (or anyone) what's your recommended choice for installing j2sdk?02:07
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draskoI have problem -- nautilus applications:/// gives me "no valid location" message.02:08
crimsundownload the tarball (not the rpm) and use make-jpkg02:08
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crimsunthen install the created deb02:08
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crimsunmake-jpkg exists in java-package02:09
hondjedrasko: where should it open?02:09
kimoirda doesnt work on my laptop, though it works on suse! any ideas? (irda is loaded)02:09
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_kevinhondje i download  winscp on the linux machine and install it but ./configure make and make install ?02:09
ylbmurGatleast it's online02:09
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hondje_kevin: no, winscp on the windows machine :)02:10
hondjeand the openssh server on ubuntu02:10
pfpcrimsun: thx - any reason why i shouldn't use backports? (i can handle broken dependencies usually)02:10
_kevinok then use it to connect to my linux machine02:10
crimsunpfp: why would you want to use backports?02:10
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crimsunwhat the02:10
wulfepup#My poor laptop  I tried install Ubuntu Hoary (AMD64) and all I get now is "OS Missing"02:10
pfpcrimsun: lazy - would be a couple of commands less ;)02:11
hondjedrasko: hrm, I see what it's supposed to do (I rtfm'd) .... doesn't work right here, either. I'd file a bug report02:11
thoreauputichondje: no, that worked on warty, but not on hoary - he needs the menu editor (smeg)02:12
thoreauputicgnome issue...02:12
hondjethat says that applications:/// and start-here:/// should work, and they don't02:13
thoreauputichondje: indeed, but this is a known issue02:13
hondjethoreauputic: any reason half of them don't work?02:14
thoreauputichondje: don't ask me :) I just know menu editing is broken in gnome 2.1002:14
MaggotI'm a little shocked by the lack of documentation related to actually installing ubuntu. The faq leaps right over it.02:14
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fazerHello, does anynone know of a good torrent client?02:15
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Xappefazer: azureus02:15
pfpi know a bad one ;/02:15
kimofazer: yabc02:15
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fazerazureus is a bad one.02:16
thoreauputichondje: amaranh's menu editor >> http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/02:16
fazeralthough its awesome02:16
fazerits too resource hoggy02:16
pfpaltough the perceived badness may not be azureus' fault02:16
fazeryabc, whats good about it?02:16
hondjethoreauputic: yeah, but those dont' have anything to do with menu editing02:16
IcemanV9azureus runs on java02:16
thoreauputicumm... yes they do : the applications:/// location was the place to put entries for the warty menu02:17
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JJasonJ20I just installed Ubuntu 5.04 (AMD 64) and I think I have no root account. How can that be? I'm stupid.02:17
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britesidehey guys02:17
britesidei'm trying to install php4 with apt-get02:17
britesidebut it always gives me this error02:17
britesideFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/krb5/libkrb53_1.3.6-1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch02:17
hondjethoreauputic: okay, maybe that one was, but the rest weren't, I'm pretty sure02:17
britesideE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?02:17
GrumblyJJasonJ20: its deactive by default02:17
hondjelike preferences:///02:17
Grumblyquick fix is to sudo bash and type passwd02:17
Grumblyto = do02:18
mjtshould this "i have no root" question be answered in /topic already? ;)02:18
hondjeor themes:///02:18
wulfepupJJasonJ20 .. you are right .. no root account.  use sudo02:18
JJasonJ20OK, trying it. Just a sec02:18
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Grumblymjt: prolly... but people like their root...02:18
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Grumblywulfepup: let em' hurt their stuff02:18
Grumblyit's the easiest way to learn02:18
thoreauputicmjt: the bot had a factoid for it - but ubotu has a severe case of amnesia at the moment02:19
Pithlitroot is there to be used :P02:19
hondjeI have no problem with using root, but it bothers me that people who can't figure out how to set root up a passwd want it02:19
mjti wasn't suggesting *how* to answer that question in /topic, but that *some* answer should be there by now ;)02:19
celloHi. how about usage of LTSP on ubuntu... ? is that easy like install the package and conect or that is a bit complex ?02:19
GrumblyPithlit: add yourself to wheel02:19
Grumblythat'll work for most02:20
britesidesudo passwd root02:20
BockBilbohey again02:20
PithlitGrumbly: I'm not complaining02:20
Grumblyhondje: it's not about problems using root for most people, it's about other people not having problems getting in.02:20
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Pithlitand... I don't use ubuntu so nyah :P02:20
hondjeAre you suggesting that sudo increases your vulnerability?02:21
_kevinhondje, now that i have ssh and winscp ont he window machine02:21
_kevini need the loging info02:21
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_kevinhow do i find that info out02:21
BockBilboi have a question related to samb: Im using samba to share some directories from a ubuntu machine in gest mode so no password is required02:21
BockBilbothe problem i have is that from windows, for example, when doing any modifications in the folders files (such as delete, rename or move) the modifications are not visualized unless i refresh the window. I would like to know if that's a problem of my samba configuration, and if it is, how can i fix it? is there any refresh option?02:21
_kevinand set it up02:21
IIIEarsSeparate DVD and CD recorders - Tips to speed up the DVD recorder? - (scratches head)02:21
JJasonJ20hondje, yeah, you are right. But I've been using Linux for only ten days. I need to configure stuff that requires a root password. Like options in Firefox.02:21
LinuxJonescello, atm I think it's still a work in progress but it is one of the projects that will get some well desserved attention in the near future :)02:22
hondjewhat options in FF want root passwd? I never saw that02:22
_kevinany one wants to help me set up winscp?02:22
Pithlitfirefox needs root?02:22
JJasonJ20And this is my computer, behind a router and a firewall and I live alone.02:22
Pithlitwhat the hell for?02:22
_kevinit shouldn't02:22
hondje_kevin: I haven't ever used winscp, just know everyone likes it :)02:22
_kevinany winscp user02:22
hondjeOnly app I know offhand that NEEDS root is ethereal02:23
_kevinit need login info for the ssh server02:23
JJasonJ20Well, I clicked on Edit > Options and got "root.disabled = "true"02:23
PithlitJJasonJ20: if you really need FF as root you can start it with sudo02:23
LinuxJonescello, here's a sort of dated howto from the wiki >> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LTSPHowTo02:23
xoz_kevin: just enable sshd... /etc/init.d/ssh start02:23
stuNNedLinuxJones:would be nice if LTSP used ubuntu by default instead of Fedora ;)02:24
IIIEarsEww - FF as root with java and flash enabled. (pops two anti-acids)02:24
stuNNedLOL IIIEars02:24
LinuxJonescello, by all means give it a go :)02:24
LinuxJonesstuNNed, it's one of the best oss projects for schools and organizations with limited resources :)02:25
LinuxJonescello, :D02:25
JJasonJ20OK, that worked. Now I can get Preferences.02:25
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thoreauputicJJasonJ20: I don't know what you are doing - but Prefs in Firefox don't require root :/02:26
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Pithlitbtw... how do I add sshd (or any other service) to a runlevel in ubuntu?02:26
stuNNedLinuxJones: yes and quite easy to set up once get the network boot sorted :)02:26
NazyrAnyone here have any experience with NFORCE 4 chipset isntall? getting kernel panic after bootup02:26
IIIEarsCD ripping @ 2.8x to FLAC - Whats the hold up?02:26
stuNNedIIIEars: me too i have same prob02:27
stuNNedthnx eruin02:27
xozPithlit: you can do a symbolic link from /etc/rc.d02:27
hondjePithlit: lots of ways...one is to install sysv-rc-conf and use that, another is to use 'BUM', or my way is to symlink from /etc/rcN.d02:27
stuNNederuin: is there gui for enabling dma on cdrom?02:27
eruinI need special via modules loaded _before_ the ide-* ones to make dma work for me02:27
eruinno, sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdx02:28
xozPithlit: to rc<n>.d02:28
JJasonJ20I couldn't get into Preferences with my regular account until I launched it as root. Then Prefs worked fine02:28
IIIEarsThank You! - (eruin wins an OEM XP disk. - everyone could use a coaster right?)02:28
thoreauputicJJasonJ20: something is wrong then02:28
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JJasonJ20Yeah, what's wrong is a total n00b trying to learn Linux on his own :(02:29
eruinhow rude!02:29
Nazyrlol atleast XP runs on my system .. I have yet to get Ubuntu to run correctly02:29
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JJasonJ20But Ubuntu rox02:29
CrustyPunkhey, I'm having some slight, rather irritating issues.02:29
stuNNedJJasonJ20: total n00b should RTFM and RTFM and RTFM once again. :)02:29
thoreauputicJJasonJ20: we've all been there - you'll get it gradually02:29
hondjeJJasonJ20: nothing, but you have a societal obligation to not do stuff that might cause us badness02:29
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jindGnome sound is broken02:30
kvidellrtfm - regarding the full manual ;)02:30
wulfepupThere's an FM??  *g*  naaaaaaaahhhhh!02:30
hondjeGetting rooted inconveniences everyone02:30
IIIEarsNazyr - What can the room help you with?02:30
stuNNedkvidell: yes02:30
NazyrRTFM doesnt always work02:30
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stuNNedNazyr: if you can't read, yep.02:30
_kevinis there a FTP server program for linux with a Nice and easy g.u.i interface02:30
JJasonJ20RTFM works great, once you *find* the M.02:30
thoreauputicNazyr: not unless you implement what you read, no ;)02:30
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CrustyPunkAlsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop02:30
IIIEarskvidell - RTFM - is handy and the first recommendation in #debian02:30
PithlitJJasonJ20: $ man whatever02:31
Pithliteasy to find them02:31
kvidellman -k search term02:31
hondjesometimes the documentation is over a newbies head, or useless for anyone02:31
kvidellalso useful02:31
hondjeasking is good, too02:31
IIIEarsNazyr - What is the stopping point?02:31
JJasonJ20hondje, you can say that again.02:31
NazyrOK wheres the TFM for how to fix a Kernel Panic Error on a fresh install on a NFORCE4 based motherboard? would love to know .. because after two days of looking I cant seem to find one02:31
eruinFMs are far from as useful as learning by experience/example02:31
thoreauputichondje: only sometimes ? *grin*02:31
hondjeI'm just saying, the obsession with root is disturbing02:31
kvidellyea, I only use manuals with software I already know how to use and just need a reminder02:32
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kvidelllike I can for the life of me NEVER remember which order to put arguments for ln -s02:32
JJasonJ20But every journey begins with a single step. I'll just keep plugging away.02:32
eruinkvidell, hahah, me too02:32
CrustyPunkAlsa-base is broken, and trying to uninstall it (or installing anything else for that matter) tells me I need to uninstall GDM, ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop. Is it safe to do so, and then apt-get install gdm ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-base?02:32
wulfepupfrequently just "foo --help" is all you need with a specific command (though "man foo" is generally much more informative.)02:32
NazyrIIIEars: I get a kernel panic - not syncing error about 60 seconds after machine boots02:32
hondjesometimes you need the man page02:32
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk,  your running Hoary ?02:32
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Yeah02:33
eruin"uname --help" is an example of --help done right.02:33
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Er... if Hoary is 5.04. I can't keep Hoary and Warty straight02:33
IIIEarsNazyr - Did you spot the module/app loaded at boot that might cause it?02:33
eruinNazyr, try booting in rescue mode for more useful output02:34
sounixcomo instyalar ubuntu desde disketes02:34
NazyrIIIEars: nope everything boots fine02:34
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk,  sudo -s (enter ur password) then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade02:34
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CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Doing so02:34
IIIEarsthere is a boot log. Where you able to see it?02:34
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, you can always cat /etc/issue to be sure what your running :)02:34
stuNNedNazyr: self compiled kernel or stock?02:34
NazyrstuNNed: Stock02:35
NazyrstuNNed: this is a brand new clean install02:35
IIIEarsthe live CD will help if you have one. if not any live cd will let you peek.02:35
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: The following packages have unmet dependencies:02:35
CrustyPunk  alsa-base: Depends: alsa-utils (>= 1.0.8-2) but 1.0.8-1ubuntu1 is installed02:35
CrustyPunkE: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.02:35
pfpCrustyPunk: apt-get -f install  <- might help02:35
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, cat /etc/issue and tell me what you have02:36
AmaranthCrustyPunk: do you have any third party repositories (non-Ubuntu)02:36
AmaranthCrustyPunk: like backports or marillat02:36
NazyrIIIEars: LiveCD doesnt work .. doesnt recognize my mouse or keyboard02:36
CrustyPunkpfp: That's what I did before I even came here. It told me I'd have to uninstall ubuntu-base, ubuntu-desktop and gdm02:36
CrustyPunkAmaranth: I don't believe so. I got my repository list from ubuntuguide02:36
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IIIEarsNazyr - What are your system specifications?02:37
CrustyPunkLinuxJones: Hoary02:37
Amaranthyou got backports and/or marillat then02:37
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pfpCrustyPunk: ok, something has messed up your dependencies then, prolly those 3rd party reps Amaranth mentioned02:37
CrustyPunkAmaranth: ...Is that bad?02:37
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AmaranthCrustyPunk: it's what is causing this problem, so yeah02:37
IIIEarspastebin.com will help if a long list will flood the channel02:37
pfpCrustyPunk: i'd comment them out, then -f  etc02:38
IIIEarspaste or /msg02:38
CrustyPunkpfp: I'll try that.02:38
we2bywhat program can I use for rss feeds?02:38
we2byI have it installed, but can not remember the name02:38
stuNNedNazyr: where does it oops?02:38
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pfpwe2by: apt-cache search rss02:38
AmaranthCrustyPunk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AMdBMc27.html02:39
hondjealright, my very own bzflag2 .deb02:39
AmaranthCrustyPunk: your sources.list should look like that02:39
Xyc0meh, logging into freenode takes forever02:39
IIIEarsoops is the friendly terminology - grin02:39
miraclebluemorning everyone ^_^02:39
Amaranthwe2by: blam, liferea, or straw02:39
miraclebluexmms hates me, and so does beep.  sadly.  oh well.02:39
Amaranthmiracleblue: get gstreamer-mad and use rhythmbox or muine02:39
bobthegoatQuestion: I have samba server running and can see my linux box from windows machine, but when I try to open it it asks me to log in but won't accept my login and keeps adding the windows machines name infront of my user name.02:40
NazyrIIIEars: AMD64 3800+ Gigabyte GA-K8N Ultra-9 Motherboard 2 gig of ram ATI X800XL Graphics card installing to a 80gig ATA HD instead of SATA at this point02:40
bobthegoatany ideas?02:40
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Should I erase my sources.list and replace it with that?02:40
Amaranthbobthegoat: you need to login with the windows machine's username and password02:40
AmaranthCrustyPunk: yeah02:40
lonewolffbobthegoat: have you set your users samba password?02:40
NazyrstuNNed: it just does it .. even if I dont log in .. it will just panic and lock02:40
eruin64bits and ati. You're asking for trouble</rant>02:40
JJasonJ20Thanks for the help dudes. Exam week is over and its PARTY TIME!!02:40
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hondjeThe future of IT has just left the room :)02:40
IIIEarsNazyr - (Drool) Nice rig.02:40
pfpbobthegoat: samba keeps a saeparate password file, you can/need to set pw w/  smbpasswd02:41
bobthegoatAmaranth,  I just tried my windows user name it didn't work02:41
stuNNedNazyr: might try antiquated 'noapic' or acpi=off or soemthing from grub?02:41
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Done. What should I do next? I'm updating the list now.02:41
eruinJJasonJ20 got it all wrong. you should party *in* exam-week02:41
miracleblueamaranth: i have gstreamer-mad, and rhythmbox has slow response times02:41
NazyrIIIEars: lol will be if I can get something other than WinXP installed02:41
bobthegoatpfp ok I will try that.02:41
AmaranthCrustyPunk: after you run sudo apt-get update you should be set02:41
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IIIEarsNazyr - a boot log would be golden. - not sure it's possible with the live CD. - :/02:42
CrustyPunkAmaranth:  And then do apt-get -f install or whatever the command is?02:42
wulfepupduring installation.... I know the [skull]  is for format... what is the lightning bolt?02:42
AmaranthCrustyPunk: yeah02:42
pfpbobthegoat: in windows, you should probably use same username+pass as you do on you ubu box02:42
NazyrstuNNed: ok brb see if that helps02:42
miracleblueamaranth: so i tried to see if xmms would be a little quicker, but it just locks up whenever i try to play an mp3 file.  kinda sad, oh well02:42
NazyrIIIEars: Ill see if I can get it .. brb02:42
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Amaranthmiracleblue: you need to tell xmms to use alsa or oss02:42
Amaranthmiracleblue: it's a preference02:42
CrustyPunkwulfepup: Lightning bold is for bootable, I believe02:42
miracleblueAmaranth: oh, okie dokie, ill try that02:43
wulfepuperr cool02:43
bobthegoatWhere is the smb password file? I am searching smb.conf it just talks about encryption02:43
hou5tona friend once had an Xchat notification thingie that would allow one to be on a different virtual desktop and know when a message to them was delivered.  I haven't found such a thing for Ubuntu.  Any help?02:43
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Amaranthhou5ton: the xchat system tray icon?02:43
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CarlFKduh - how do I reset my password in hoary?02:43
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hou5tonAmaranth:  ya ... that was it02:44
bobthegoatHum Samba seems to work if I turn off user lvl security, I guess I'll just do that.02:44
pfpbobthegoat: by default /etc/samba/smbpasswd but hmm, you may need to create it with something like 'mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'02:44
EvanCarrollhou5ton: You live in houston texas?02:44
miracleblueAmaranth: It was using OSS, so i switched it to ALSA02:44
miracleblueAmaranth: I'll give it another try02:44
hou5tonEvanCarroll:  nah ... central Missouri02:44
bobthegoatpfp ok I'll try that.02:44
pfpbobthegoat: after that, use 'sudo smbpasswd yourusername' to set the pw02:44
hou5tonEvanCarroll:  doesn't make sense ... I know02:45
Amaranthhou5ton: http://edit.peoplesdns.com/index.php?show=5202:45
wulfepuphou5ton you should be able to get Xchat .. therefore .. ditto the sys tray icon?02:45
LuakagonI wish to restart my sound server withoug logging in and out, how do I do that please?02:45
pfpor maybe there's an easier way, that's what i've used for the last 5 years...02:45
miracleblueAmaranth: It works using the eSound one ^_^02:45
Amaranthmiracleblue: ah, that was it02:45
hondjeLuakagon: try killall -1 esd02:45
Amaranthmiracleblue: i was thinking you needed to take it off the esd one02:45
kimowhere do I find old libstdc++ ?02:46
CrustyPunkAmaranth: It's still tleling me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:46
Luakagonhow do I list those processes to make sure that I dont crash my computer first?02:46
IIIEarsAmaranth - Do you run 64bit?02:46
hou5tonwulfepup:  one would think, but I've never found it listed in Synaptic02:46
AmaranthIIIEars: nope02:46
pfpLuakagon: if you use gnoem, 'ps auxw|grep esd'02:46
bobthegoatpfp when I try that line you suggested all I get is permission denied. I tried it as root with sudo also02:46
wulfepuphou5ton: try using aptitude?02:46
Luakagonthank you pfp02:47
CrustyPunkAmaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:47
miracleblueAmaranth: Yeah, OSS is the one freezing up.  Thanks for helping, otherwise I wouldntve tried changing that option02:47
pfpbobthegoat: h, sudo can't see the < > redirections, so 'sudo sh -c "thecommand"'02:47
hou5tonwulfepup:  no ... but I see it in Synaptic.  Is it an Xchat notification plugin?02:47
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wulfepupsounds like it?02:47
PhantomFreakDoes anyone know a good program for calculating the speed the CPU is running at!02:48
wulfepupnever used XChat myself .. I'm a newly annoited *nix n00b with a strong passion for some of my old Win proggies.. like mIRC02:48
Amaranthaptitude is just like synaptic, but for a terminal02:48
LuakagonThat didn't work...02:48
Amaranthit's not an xchat systray icon02:49
bobthegoatok I just tried that pfp , and it still get permission denied  "bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied"02:49
_kevini try to run Pure-FtpD and it gives me and error saying Unable to start a standalone server: Address already in use, what does this mean, and this the first time I'm running it and it give me this error02:49
LuakagonI still need help closing my sound server02:49
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Amaranthhou5ton: I gave you the code for the tray icon, you just need to figure out where to save that file02:49
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: When I apt-get -f install it still tells me that GDM, Ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop will be uninstalled02:49
hou5tonAmaranth:  ya ... i see that ...02:49
AmaranthCrustyPunk: err02:49
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pfpLuakagon: did you find the PID? (number in 2nd column)02:50
LuakagonI just did killall and it killed all02:50
Amaranthhou5ton: You just need to save the file in a special place, I can't remember where.02:50
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jugarnathahi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere02:50
PhantomFreakI've tried a few things like CPUID but they usually show the full processor speed!02:51
jugarnathacan anyone help?02:51
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Would it be a bad idea to let it do it's thing and then apt-get ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop gdm?02:51
Luakagonhmm, there we go :) success!02:51
PhantomFreakI need the current speed!02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: probably02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: this is why you don't use 3rd party repositories.02:51
AmaranthCrustyPunk: what package is it you're trying to install?02:51
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Right now, I'm more concerned about getting alsa fixed or uninstalled without killing my system02:52
CrustyPunkAmaranth: But I'm trying to install Vavoom02:52
HerdsmanMarengodoes ubuntu come with a preinstalled c compiler?02:52
pfpPhantomFreak: there's an applet for gnome that does this i think02:52
IIIEars64bit Does anyone use a 64bit processor?02:52
AmaranthCrustyPunk: I mean what package is trying to install itself and remove gdm and such02:52
Luakagonlots of love to all you crazy cats keep kool peace owt!02:52
AmaranthHerdsmanMarengo: no, you need to install the build-essential package02:53
jugarnathalater Luak*02:53
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wulfepupIIIEars: I am .. but I can't get it to install yet02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: None; when I tell Synaptic to remove alsa-base it tries to remove gdm and all that02:53
AmaranthCrustyPunk: why are you removing alsa-base?!?!?02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Err, not remove, sorry02:53
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Reinstall02:53
CrustyPunkAmaranth: It's "broken" for one reason or another02:53
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hondjeCrustyPunk: try apt-get --reinstall alsa-base?02:54
AmaranthCrustyPunk: ok, open up a terminal and run sudo apt-get install alsa-base/hoary02:54
jugarnathahi all: i'm trying to get my codecs in place for totem. I've downloaded them and extracted them twice, but I can't figure out where they're located or what to do with them. they're on this console somewhere02:54
IIIEarswulfepup - sadly you aren't alone - looking for help Nazyr's system shows the desk for about 30 seconds with the mouse and keyboard locked up. - What are you seeing?02:54
Amaranthjugarnatha: you mean w32codecs?02:54
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: I'm doing that. It's downgrading what I have, but I've a feeling it will fix it.02:55
jugarnathaum, I downloaded them from a site . . . they should all be windows movie player codecs, I guess. I could give you the site name if that would help02:55
AmaranthCrustyPunk: it will02:55
wulfepup"Operating System Missing"02:55
AmaranthCrustyPunk: it's going back to the hoary version02:55
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AmaranthCrustyPunk: one of your third party repositories (probably backports) thought it was a good idea to try to give you a new alsa02:55
wulfepupbut it seems to be working now...  I got Grub...and went to XP to make sure that worked...02:56
IIIEarswulfepup - okay - sounds like a disk error in the master boot record. - Do you think so?02:56
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wulfepupNow I'm rebooting to see if teh rest of teh install takes...02:56
CrustyPunkAmaranth: Thanks02:56
StargazerHi.. I'm running 5.04 PPC - I just installed gstreamer- ffmpeg for totem.. I go to watch a divx and totem loads up, and about 20 secs after exits.  What more do I need to do for totem to view divx's?02:56
CarlFKIIIEars - more likely mis configured02:56
blastmanuI will speack english :)02:56
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IIIEarswulfepup - do you think the grub pointer is looking for a different 32 bit kernel?02:56
AmaranthStargazer: install totem-xine02:56
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CrustyPunkAmaranth: Now to get back to installing Vavoom =P02:57
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IIIEarsCarlFK - What do you think it is?02:57
wulfepupI was trying to maintain my XP mbr .. and have grub on the (hd0,1)  but that did not work for me....02:57
jugarnathawww.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingCodecsToTotemHowTo - 18k <-- that's where I was directed to get the codecs02:58
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wulfepupI stuck it on MBR and it seems to be working now...  I'm maybe be a quick study, but I'm still a n00b .....especially trouble shooting.02:58
IIIEarswulfepup - been juggling primary and secondary hard drive using the bios. - not elegant by any means.02:58
hondjejugarnatha: what did you do with the tarball you downloaded from mplayer's site?02:58
jugarnathahttp://www4.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html <-- and this is the location02:58
Knudanyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process02:58
bobthegoatQuestion: when I try to run smbpasswd I get ' Error was : Account disabled.' any ideas on what i do?02:58
CarlFKIIIEars -I missed your history: I am guessing you have both Ubuntu and Win XP installed?02:59
IIIEarslol - okay - i'm lazy- there i said it!02:59
jugarnathahondje: well, I'm not sure what a tarball is. i let /usr/bin/file-roller opoen them02:59
IIIEarsCarlFK - yes02:59
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jugarnathahondje: was that a mistake?02:59
CarlFKIIIEars - which did you install first?02:59
hondjejugarnatha: I dunno, never used it02:59
jugarnathawhat would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje02:59
wulfepupIIIEars: well, my install is continuing....02:59
pfpbobthegoat: could you do a 'grep yourusername /etc/samba/smbpasswd' and paste it here02:59
wulfepupI'll let you know what hap[pens next .. LOL03:00
IIIEarsCarlFK windows primary then biosed the second drive to primary. - see i told you i was lazy.03:00
jugarnathahondje: what would you do with them if you were to save them to disk, hondje03:00
hondjejugarnatha: well, I'd open up a terminal first03:00
StargazerBeing new to ubuntu, where can I find a gui utility to change video card colour depth? I've searched high and low through all system preferences in gnome03:00
bobthegoatpf it says : grep: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: No such file or directory' but I thought I created that with that step above...03:01
Knudanyone ever got this problem(while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process03:01
CarlFKIIIEars - Ok, you need to put the win drive back or it will be cranky. but then grub won't be there...03:01
IcemanV9Stargazer: it is in the little file called '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' :)03:01
StargazerAlso, any idea how to get the volume to stay where it is?  Everytime I reboot the volume control on the menu bar is muted.03:01
pfpbobthegoat: it seems you created it somewhere else...03:01
PhantomFreakWhat is the Govener in CPUfreq settings03:01
CrustyPunkNow I'm having trouble compiling Vavoom, probably mu own n00bery: I get the message gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory when I run make03:01
bobthegoatthis is what I did pfp 'sudo sh -c mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd'03:02
CarlFKIIIEars - in keeping with the lazy theam: put the win drive back, get that working - maybe even reisntall XP.  then leave the drives alone and isntall Ubunto - it will work around XP and even include it in the boot config03:02
IIIEarsnp - windows is for doom 3 - ubuntu is for everything else. grin03:02
Xyc0CrustyPunk: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:02
bobthegoatwhen I try it now03:02
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bobthegoatit says 'bash: /etc/samba/smbpasswd: Permission denied'03:02
LinuxJonesCrustyPunk, apt-get install build-essential03:02
CrustyPunkXyc0: Thanks03:02
pfpbobthegoat: oh, you need some "quotes there03:02
CarlFKIIIEars - flipping drives around was actualy more work, so the lazy thing doesn't really hold up ;)03:03
wulfepupIIIEars: that sounds like what I ended up doing ....03:03
Xyc0CrustyPunk: install and try to compile again03:03
pfpbobthegoat: sudo sh -c "mksmbpasswd < /etc/passwd > /etc/samba/smbpasswd"03:03
CrustyPunkXyc0: Am doing. thanks again.03:03
wulfepupCarlFK: the excuses of teh lazy almost always are actually more work.. I should know.. I'm one of the lazy ones too.03:03
bobthegoatthat worked03:03
bobthegoatnow I will try the smbpasswd thing. thanks for pointing that out.03:04
pfpbobthegoat: great03:04
IIIEarsCarlFK - using the bios is fine to substitute for grub is fine for now.03:04
CrustyPunkXyc0: is this an error with the source, or am I missing something else? "make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 1"03:04
CarlFKIIIEars - but is XP working?03:04
bobthegoatI have the file now03:05
bobthegoatand I also ran smbpasswd03:05
IIIEarsYes - on the second originally primary drive03:05
Xyc0CrustyPunk: be a bit more specific, did you install the build essential?03:05
wulfepupIf I have a whole shload of windows TTF files.. will I be able to load them?  ((I'm guessing not, but I have to ask))03:05
bobthegoatbut it still just sits there when I try to login on windows to the linux box. and adds my windows box's name to the front of my user.03:05
CrustyPunkXyc0: Yeah, I did03:05
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Xyc0CrustyPunk: what is the error you get now?03:05
thoreauputicwulfepup: ttf fonts?03:05
Knudanyone ever got this problem or know a sollution(i got it while starting on virtual pc): kernel panic : attempted to kill idle process03:06
CarlFKIIIEars - wild - I would have figured it would get upset that what was C: isnt anymore, but maybe the lack of MS file system lets that work03:06
CrustyPunkXyc0: What I just pasted: make: *** [obj/d_alleg.o]  Error 103:06
wulfepupthoreauputic: yup .. I use them in my graphic design work.03:06
IIIEarswulfpup - mttcorefonts is what some use guessing you need more fonts?03:06
thoreauputicwulfepup: you can just dump them in ~/.fonts03:06
Xyc0CrustyPunk: What are you installing again?03:06
LinuxJoneswulfepup, >>http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FontInstallHowto03:06
AmaranthCrustyPunk: the real error is above that03:06
CrustyPunkXyc0: Err, I take that back. I have a LOT of errors. Almost every line03:06
thoreauputicwulfepup: note the "dot"03:06
AmaranthCrustyPunk: what is the _first_ error?03:07
wulfepupthoreauputic: phat!  Will do03:07
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pfpbobthegoat: hmm03:07
bobthegoatwhen I try my user03:07
DaveyWhy can't I edit my MP3s ID3 tags in "Media Player" (Rythmbox)03:07
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wulfepupLinuxJones: Thanks!03:07
ukatodoes GAIM file sharing work for anybody?03:07
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thoreauputicwulfepup: you might want to read the URL LinuxJones posted as well though03:07
CrustyPunkAmaranth: I'm going to pastebin it all03:07
pfpbobthegoat: do you use the exact same username on the windows and ubuntu boxen03:07
geetergodCan anyone help me to get my speakers/sound card working right?03:07
Daveyat first, I thought it was cause my MP3s where on a ro file system (NTFS), but even now, I can't edit stuff I own on my linux partition03:07
Xyc0Davey: sudo apt-get install easytag03:07
wulfepupukato: haven't tried yet ...03:08
bobthegoatthe windows one has no password.03:08
bobthegoatthat is the only difference03:08
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CrustyPunkAmaranth and Xyc0: http://pastebin.com/29870603:08
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wulfepupoh S.O.B.!!!  I didn't realize it would be dl'ing before teh install was complete! this bytes!!!!  I don't have time....03:08
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geetergodwhat room would i go to for soundcard/speakers help?03:08
nemikhi guys i'm having trouble apt-getting curl03:09
pfpbobthegoat: hmm, try setting the same password on your windows machine. windows _should_ ask for a password when you try to connect, though03:09
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bobthegoatpfp it does ask for it. I will try setting the password03:09
wulfepuprazzin' fraggin' dial-up03:09
nemiki did apt-get upgrade and apt-get update and i still get some md5 error03:09
pfpbobthegoat: ok, so you type in the password that you set with smbpassword earlier...03:10
miracleblueits cold03:10
Xyc0CrustyPunk: Im at a loss for that one03:10
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Xyc0CrustyPunk: sorry03:10
CrustyPunkXyc0: It's okay. Thanks for your help\03:10
thickglassesubuntu comes with a c compiler doesnt it?03:11
thoreauputicthickglasses: sudo apt-get install build-essential03:11
Xyc0thickglasses: I don't think so, but its not hard to install one on ubuntu03:11
CarlFKthickglasses - you have to add it - apt-get install build-essinti... that.03:11
bobthegoatpfp it didn't help, yes same password and user name. when I click on the linux box in the windows network home thing, it brings up a login, to localhost.localdomain. I put the user and password in and hit ok, and then it comes back password is still there but windows has changed the user name to windowscomputer\username, not sure whats up with that pfp03:11
PhantomFreakAny idea what this error is about... Access to /proc/cpufreq is deprecated and will be removed from (new) 2.6. kernels soon after 2005-01-0103:11
IIIEarsthickglasses - synaptic will install everything from a compiler to a full blown proffesional IDE with a search and a click.03:12
pfpbobthegoat: oh... strange. this is what i've used with windows03:12
IIIEarsthickglasses - build-essential is all you will need for most things03:12
nemikfailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut/pool/main/c/curl/curl_7.12.3-ubunut3_i386.deb MD5Sum mismatch03:12
thickglassesok, thanks03:12
nemikwhat is wrong?03:13
nemiksomething with ubunut server?03:13
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nemikand why i386, i have a pentium machine....03:13
bobthegoatya I'm not sure it is service pack 2 of win xp , everywhere I looked for howtos, just told to do the smbpasswd thing and nobody mentions this problem.03:13
Mezanyone here on breezy kde?03:13
Knudplease help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg03:13
bobthegoatit works with shared lvl access at least.03:13
pfpbobthegoat: hmm, what does 'egrep security.*= /etc/samba/smb.conf' say?03:13
pfpbobthegoat: ah, or do you have security = user already set03:14
thoreauputicnemik:  /topic03:14
bobthegoatsecurity = user already,03:14
nemikthoreauputic: ok thanks. are there any backup ones to use?03:15
bobthegoatit says a couple of things basically /etc/samba/smb.conf:;   security = user03:15
bobthegoat/etc/samba/smb.conf:# Directory creation mask is set to 0700 for security reason s. If you want to03:15
nemikthat i can edit in /ect/apt/sources.list03:15
Amaranthnemik: x86 packages are compiled for the 386 but tuned for the pentium 403:15
thoreauputicnemik: sure, just change the us. prefix for a country of your choice03:15
pfpbobthegoat: oh, but there's a ; semicolon, it's commented out03:15
nemikahh so....nl?03:15
HerdsmanMarengoanyone know what this means? 'What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running03:15
HerdsmanMarengokernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 03:15
pfpbobthegoat: remove that :)03:15
Amaranthnemik: so they run on older machines but they run better on newer ones, it's a good tradeoff03:15
nemikahh ok thanks03:16
nemikwhat countries do you recommend me switching to?03:16
nemikfor the server? since ca and us are down03:16
Amaranthca and us are the same thing :)03:16
bobthegoatpfp hum that is somewhat stupid if that is the cause, let me try that.03:16
Amaranthplain archive.ubuntu.com seems to be working03:16
nemikok i'll try it03:17
CarlFKarchive.ubuntu.com will tend to be slower... better to find a close one03:17
IIIEarsnemik - you can install an ubuntu kernel by selecting one that matches your hardware aND REBOOTING.03:17
AmaranthIIIEars: Big fingers? :)03:18
IIIEarsCaps sorry - Cat-tastrophe03:18
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matjan_hello, could anyone help me?03:18
matjan_i just ran the ubuntu live cd... it sees my modem card but says for the oem product: unknown....03:18
CarlFKus is down again?... duh.03:18
nemikIIEars, i just need to install curl, not a kernal03:18
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bobthegoatwhen I try to log on in windows same thing is still happening.03:18
matjan_also... i noticed that the display on my monitor was curved... how can that be?03:18
pfpbobthegoat: did you restart samba?03:19
miraclebluehmm, im trying to add a skin to my usr/share/xmms/skins directory, but apparantly i dont have permissions to write to the folder.  how would i be able to write to the folder as root?03:19
bobthegoatpfp yes03:19
nemikok i got it, thanks everyone03:19
IcemanV9miracleblue: use 'sudo'03:20
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CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/web/curl - so that that mean it is in "main"?03:20
miracleblueIcemanV9: sudo?  where to i get it03:20
pfpbobthegoat: hmm... im running out of answers soon :/ you could try logging in locally with smbclient03:20
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'sudo cp <filename> /usr/share/xmms/skins/<filename>'03:21
bobthegoatpfp ok thanks for all your help03:21
Razor-Xerrr, sorry!03:21
miracleblueIcemanV9 oh i see ^_^03:21
Razor-Xhmmm, what's a good solution to transfer files over networks?03:21
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Razor-Xbecause, us.archive is down03:22
Razor-Xso, i'm not getting anything of the repos03:22
Knudplease help: http://img156.echo.cx/img156/3196/kernelpanic3li.jpg03:22
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zerokillswoot, im about to buy Cedega03:22
pfpRazor-X: uk.archive.... seems to work (as fi. is same as uk.)03:23
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Razor-Xpfp: ok03:23
ukatocan anyone advise me on something03:23
CarlFKRazor-X - scp03:23
ghatakWhat is the kernel shipped with 5.0403:23
matjan_did someone look at my question?03:23
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AmaranthKnud: Does it happen every time? Does it happen with the install CD?03:24
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Knudyes the install cd03:24
Knudand yes everytime03:24
Knudtryed both vmware and vpc03:24
Knudallthought i didnt get the error while trying the live bootcd03:24
AmaranthKnud: Try the live CD on a real machine.03:25
Knudi did03:25
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Knudit didnt like my vga card03:25
IcemanV9ghatak: 2.6.1003:25
bobthegoatpfp, I fixed it!03:25
ghatakIcemanV9: cool thanks03:25
AmaranthKnud: what kind of card?03:25
miracleblueIcemanV9: it isnt working...03:25
geetergodcan someone go to that link03:25
geetergodthats my soundcard, whats that wire for?03:25
Knudati x850xt03:25
pfpbobthegoat: cool! what was is?03:25
wulfepuplooks like it's all up and running .. haven';t actually tried anything yet though.03:26
IcemanV9miracleblue: i'm sorry? what do you mean?03:26
AmaranthKnud: Oh, once you get Ubuntu installed for real on that machine you can get the xorg-driver-fglrx and it should work fine.03:26
Amarantherr, the xorg-driver-fglrx package03:26
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: it's a fibre SPDIF link I think03:26
Knudthats just it03:26
bobthegoatpfp, fyi what I did was create a file called smbusers the the only thing I put in it was systemusername = windows user name with the windows machine name on it. so windowscomputername/windowsusername. and then rstarted samba03:26
Knudi wanna try it before i install it for real03:26
geetergodHrdwrBob, whats it do? do i need it hooked in?03:27
bobthegoatpfp I got the smbusers file from the samba help that mentioned it03:27
AmaranthKnud: what does the live cd do when you boot it on the actual computer?03:27
TokenBadhow get audio and video codecs for ubuntu?03:27
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: no03:27
AmaranthKnud: saying it doesn't like your video card doesn't say much03:27
geetergodok good03:27
miracleblueIcemanV9: I cd to the directory that the file I want to move is in, and i typed "sudo cp Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz /usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz" i think i wrote the command wrong03:27
Knudsomething error while loading x03:27
geetergodHrdwrBoB, I cant seem to get my surround speakers and center speaker to work, any ideas?03:27
bobthegoatTokenBad, ubuntuguide.org03:27
pfpbobthegoat: cool, i have to remember that, thx03:27
AmaranthKnud: :/03:27
geetergodHrdwrBoB, i just put the new card in03:27
P229is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04?03:27
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miracleblueIcemanV9: I'm an uber n00b03:28
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IcemanV9miracleblue: looks fine to me. did the error msg shows up?03:28
HrdwrBoBgeetergod: that's most likely a software issue03:28
geetergodHrdwrBoB, i have a 5.1 speaker system, the sound is a ton better with this new card...03:29
miracleblueyep, said "cannot create regular file 'usr/share/xmms/skins/Winamp_X_XMMS_1.01.tar.gz': No such file or directory"03:29
geetergodHrdwrBoB, can you help me with the software?03:29
CarlFKduh - how do I reset my password in hoary?03:29
MezCarlFK, from a console03:30
IcemanV9miracleblue: you know what? you can do it in your local directory - ~/.xmms/Skins03:30
CarlFKMez - if I could get to it... I can't remember what I set it to last time I did that ;)03:30
Mezah :P03:31
IcemanV9miracleblue: that would be a lot easier03:31
pfpCarlFK: boot from livecd, chroot to your system (as root), then 'passwd yourlogin'03:31
miracleblueIcemanV9: uh...how would i access that directory?  (excuse my n00bness)03:31
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Adrossare there any linux based programs that can convert avi to ogg without losing syncing and making the actual movie res smaller?03:31
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IIIEarsmiracleblue - CTRL+H will toggle hidden files to viewable03:32
geetergodhow do you run a CD?03:32
CarlFKpfp - ugh.  isn't there a way to drop to a # prompt from boot?  like init=/bin/bash (only somthing that works ;)03:32
miracleblueah, cool03:32
miraclebluethanks ^_^03:32
zerokillsshould i download Cedega file .deb or .tgz?03:32
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CarlFKAdross - have hyou looked at transcode?03:32
matjan_hi syntaxerror6403:32
NazyrIIIEars: only error I could find was about hardware system clock03:33
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'ls .xmms' - you'll see some stuff there03:33
syntaxerror64hi matjan03:33
miraclebluehmm, no such file or directory03:33
LinuxJonesAdross, >> http://www.theora.org/theorafaq.html#4103:33
matjan_so i still haven't installed it.... in fact, i just ran the live cd03:33
IIIEarsNazyr - wDo you think commenting it out would work for a bit?03:33
SeamusLPAdross:  I use transcode / DVD::RIP (frontend) for all of my video encoding needs03:34
miracleblueIcemanV9: no such file or directory, it really hates me03:34
zerokillsguys, would Ubuntu recognize both .deb files and .tgz or just one of em?03:34
IIIEarsNazyr - it makes me nervous03:34
pfpCarlFK: dont know how that's done w/ ubuntu -  i've used the same on debian boxes though (without initrd) :)03:34
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AdrossSeamusLP: whats the conversion like?03:34
IcemanV9miracleblue: type 'cd' first, then type it again03:34
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miracleblueoh hehe ^_^ oops03:34
NazyrIIIEars: well the weird bit is this .. I can boot to rescue mode and it doesnt kernel panic .. and .. it doesnt error on loading hardware clock03:34
zerokillsanyone, Ubuntu uses .deb?03:34
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IIIEarsNazyr - give me a sec. the wiki has something i think.03:34
SeamusLPAdross:  What do you mean?03:34
zerokillsk thx03:34
miracleblueIcemanV9: So i type "cd lp .xmms"?03:34
matjan_syntaxerror64: my screen acts funny i run the live cd03:35
miraclebluei mean ls03:35
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AdrossSeamusLP: the quality, when you convert a file to ogg03:35
Adrossdo you lose any?03:35
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mushyi found you03:35
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nobileit wasn't hard03:35
nobileyou could see my channels03:36
SeamusLPAdross ogg is a container... are you talking about vorbis audio?03:36
mushyyes it was03:36
syntaxerror64matjan_: what do you mean03:36
Adrosstheora video03:36
nobilewhy was it?03:36
Adrossconverting avi to mpg03:36
mushybecause im an idiot everything is hard for me03:36
Adrossdo you lose much quality?03:36
rommeris there an easy way via like a script to connect to a wpa protected wireless router using wpasupplicant03:36
SeamusLPAdross I've never used theora video, but I assume its a lossy compression.  If you want any decent filesize you use lossy compression.  The amount of loss you gets depends on the bitrate you pick -- I usually go with about 1200 for decent video / audio quality03:36
matjan_syntaxerror64: the desktop is not displayed properly on my monitor03:36
SeamusLPI use xvid403:36
matjan_it is curved on the left and right side03:37
Adrossthanksyou SeamusLP, cya later03:37
ukatoif i don't want gnome anymore, is synaptic the easiest way to uninstall it?03:37
nobileI'm the idiot03:37
syntaxerror64matjan_: need to adjust the pincushion on your monitor it sounds like03:38
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geetergodHow do you run a CD?03:39
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jegerevanHi All!03:40
geetergodhey jegerevan03:40
Nazyrgettergod: define what you mean by "run" .. what are you trying to do with the CD?03:40
geetergodits the software for my new soundcard03:40
Nazyrgeetergod: and it has linux drivers on it?03:41
geetergodwell i was wondering if i was able to get a linux driver for something like that03:41
jegerevanIm looking to share experiences with people that have deployed ubuntu in the corporate environment. Something im really interested in doing!03:41
Nazyrgettergod: I would check the sound card company in questions website to see if they support linux .. to access the CD you are going to need to mount the drive03:42
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PhantomFreakDoes anyone know how to get the gnome-applet cpufreq-applet to work?03:42
IIIEarsNazyr - Gathered more info but no solution it seems fairly common. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28677 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3599403:43
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TokenBadok I was doing what one site said to get the codecs and stuff for audio and video03:43
geetergodNazyr, the 2 mainspeakers and sub works, but the surround and center speaker doesnt03:44
TokenBadbut when type the stuff in03:44
geetergodNazyr, so I dont think i have something enabled03:44
TokenBadafter a bit it says Failed to fetch blah blah blah03:44
TokenBadso if running into that03:44
TokenBadany suggestions03:44
TokenBadsome will install03:44
TokenBadand others will not03:44
Nazyrgettergod: I havent ever been able to get my surround to work correctly in Linux03:45
HerdsmanMarengoanyone know where C header files are located by default?03:45
TokenBadE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?03:45
NazyrIIIEars: danke .. Ill see where I can go from there .. thanks for the assist03:45
TokenBadits says that also03:45
geetergodHas anyone been able to get surround sound working in linux?03:45
luqini'm seeing a bunch of md5sum mismatch messages when trying to install various things03:45
Amaranthluqin: /topic03:46
BockBilbois it possible to make an init script run before ubuntu's network config?03:46
luqinhrm, dns update to ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net, the culprit?03:47
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FR500BockBilbo, sure it is possible, but i think you need to do a System V style script or something03:48
FR500i think03:48
BockBilboFR500, where do i do that? in the update-rc.d command?03:48
FR500BockBilbo, i dont really know03:48
FR500BockBilbo, otherwise, a dirty way i used sometime was editing the net script to call another script on startup03:48
FR500BockBilbo, what do you need to do?03:49
BockBilboi need it to configue my wlan03:49
NazyrIIIEars: neither of those linked forum issues are related to my problem =) but thanks for trying03:49
FR500BockBilbo, what exactly?03:49
BockBilbowell turn the modules on03:49
BockBilboand ifup the iface03:49
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geetergodCan someone help me with my soundcard/speakers in a private message?03:50
IIIEarsNazyr - I hope you can install Ubuntu it's a pleasure having you in this channel. - good luck.03:50
FR500BockBilbo, what module do u load?03:50
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BockBilbowell its called acx10003:51
FR500you run modprobe acx100?03:51
BockBilboive just compied them03:51
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BockBilboi run a script03:51
BockBilbowhich does everything to make the card work fine03:51
johnnybezakhey guys i need to connect to a computer with the ip but i don't know the netmask, and when i run ifconfig i just get "netmask 0xffffff00" any ideas on what the netmask is (sorry im a tcp/ip noob)03:51
Delirus42Eh, I have a quick question:  what's the ubuntu utility that configures x?    I remember there's a special one, but I forget the name of it.03:52
Jormundganddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:52
|QuaD-Delirus42: you on hoary or breezy?03:52
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rixthWell, that was rather scary, booted my PC and mount was segfaulting.03:53
Delirus42|QuaD hoary03:53
|QuaD-Delirus42: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (as Jormundgand said :) )03:53
Delirus42Thanks very much03:53
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chatingftp.nerim.net down ?03:54
Amaranthchating: You shouldn't use marillat, it's known to break ubuntu installs.03:54
chatingican't get some packet from there03:54
chatingAmaranth, so ?03:54
IIIEarsDelirius42 - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg sudo sudo su su sudio - okay i like music03:56
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IIIEarsphil collins and ubuntu - hm03:57
miraclebluewhee, some drum n bass fun ^_^03:57
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miraclebluefinally, i got Linux playing music again, and properly too03:57
CrustyPunkUgh. Where does AllegroCS install to?03:57
SeamusLPIIIEars: Is that who provided the sound effects? ;)03:58
chatingAmaranth, thx,i use backports now :-)03:58
miraclebluenext is just getting gaim to flash on the taskbar as a notification when new messages arrive03:58
rixthmiracleblue, tell me! tell me!03:59
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rixthI havn't found a way to do that.03:59
black_Nightmarehey there03:59
miraclebluerixth: same, thats what i wanna get it to do, if i find one, ill let u know04:00
CrustyPunkDoes anyone know where AllegroCL is installed? O04:00
P229is there any easy way to configure/enable sound in 5.04? I'm sorry if someone already responded to this... if they did, it's long since scrolled of my screen04:00
misfit-toyhmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....04:00
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CrustyPunk, being asked where it is by libsdl-mixer04:00
rixthThe best I've got is installing the Message Notification plugin, it just puts (*) at the start of the window name on the taskbar04:00
rixthTHere's also guifications which can do MSN-Windows style popups by the tray04:01
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miraclebluerixth: how do i activate those?04:01
miraclebluerixth: the notification windows04:02
miraclebluerixth: litytle pop-up thingys04:02
IIIEarsConfigure sound properly - Here >>> :)  http://ubuntuguide.org/04:02
JormundgandFailed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/restricted/source/Sources.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support [IP: 80] 04:02
rixthmiracleblue, Google Guifications :)04:02
CrustyPunkDoes anyone know where AllegroCL is installed?04:02
miraclebluerixth: okie dokie, thanks04:03
rixthI guess it's not wise to use Etch yet? :) Also, how do I work this damn jigdo thing?04:03
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islanderI am trying to install a boot splash, but I can not find the kernel folder04:04
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islanderwhat I have is /usr/src/rpm04:05
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thoreauputicrixth: etch? Are you in the right channel? :) Etch is Debian...04:05
geetergod"There is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/' Maybe MRL syntax is wrong or file/stream source doesnt exist.04:05
geetergodthats what it says in xine when i try to watch a dvd04:05
geetergodwhats that mean?04:05
psychonate|awayI want to build the device3dfx driver, but I don't know what to do with it.04:05
psychonate|awayIt's src code in /usr/src/modules04:06
chatingwhile i want to upgrade, i got WARNIG04:06
chatingDo you want to continue [Y/n] ? y04:06
chatingWARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!04:06
psychonate|awayJust using 'make' didn't do anything.04:06
chatinghow to fix it?04:06
psychonate|awaymake: *** [sanity]  Error 25504:06
geetergodThe source cant be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data04:06
JormundgandNo fix, just ignore the warning, chating.04:06
rixthOh sorry guys! I have both #debian open too :)04:07
geetergodanyone know?04:07
IIIEarshow to install graphics driver nvidia. >> here  http://ubuntuguide.org/04:07
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miraclebluerixth: So, how would i install the Guifications?04:08
islanderI am trying to install a bootsplash, but I can not find my kernel folder, all that I have is /usr/src/rpm04:08
rixthmiracleblue, you need to compile it04:08
miraclebluerixth: ah, ok, so the normal way04:09
rixthmiracleblue, let me get them, I havn't actually got them installed04:09
Knuddev input for usb mice?04:09
miraclebluerixth: do they need to be compiled in like a specific plugins folder, or will it do that for itself, or what?04:09
rixthI'm not sure, let me try and get them :)04:10
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islanderhow do I install a bootsplash04:10
JormundgandYay! New Xorg in the repos.04:10
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miraclebluerixth: ok, no worries ^_^04:10
islanderI don't know where to find my kernel04:11
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islanderDoes anybody have a clue where can I find it04:11
weezerHow much space is required for a full ubuntu install?04:11
Mezbout 1.9 Gb04:11
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Mezfor base install04:12
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geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:12
weezerMez: so is ~4gb enough for a full?04:12
islanderWhere can I find ubuntu kernel04:12
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Mezmost people find 3Gb plenty04:12
weezerMez: does that include swap?04:12
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geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:13
islanderbecause it is not on /usr/src/Linux, what I have is /usr/src/rpm04:13
Mez3gb fgor the file system is enough + some to play around with04:13
Mezmy swap is 1Gb04:13
weezerMez: oh so a 4gb partition should be fine then04:13
mengabout the new fgrlx drivers, should i use automatic or custom install?04:13
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EvanCarrollthat all depends on what you want to install04:13
cthulfuegois X in breezy still hoprribly broken?04:14
weezerMez: cool thanks04:14
islanderThis is unbeiliveble04:14
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:14
Mezweezer - hopefully - if you set up a swap and filesyetm in it04:14
EvanCarrollcase and point, kde with copy of install debs will cost you about 1.5gb04:14
mengi just need 3d acceleration to work04:14
weezerMez: I have 768 megs of ram and am not serving so not terribly concerned with the swap:)04:14
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EvanCarrollcthulfuego: breezy works fine for me04:14
islanderthere anybody here competent enoght to answer the question04:14
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Cool.04:14
mengi wonder if anyone has issues with the latest driver installer04:14
weezerMez: just make a 500meg one or something04:14
EvanCarrollusynic: your question is fucking stupid google04:15
EvanCarrollerr that to islander04:15
Mezweezer - It's RECCOMENDED that you ALWAYS have swap space AT LEAST DOUBLE your RAM04:15
Fingertipswhat is the command for creating a mount point? mkdir /???/windows04:15
BockBilbocan anyone tell me why do i get this error: *Starting internet superserver. || Starting MySQL Database server:mysqld. ||Checking for crashed MySQL tables in the background. ||/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed ||error: 'Access denied for user: 'debian-sys-maint@localhost' (Using password:'YES')04:15
GeoffrianI just typed this.04:15
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:15
Fingertipshow do i purge processes?04:15
EvanCarrollMez: no it is suggested that you keep swap at most double you ram.04:15
cthulfuegoislander: There won't be an /usr/src/linux until you install a kernel source tree.04:15
islanderhow can I do that04:16
weezerMez: too ture, but I am not hardcore linux yet so it should be enough for me for now:)04:16
thoreauputicMez: the 2x swap rule is rather outdated now, with so many people having buckets of RAM04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: That is true only for OLD  (pre 2.4.10) kernels.04:16
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: no it isn't04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: yes, it is.04:16
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weezerMez: think I will go do the install and see how it goes, thanks04:16
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: On those old kernels, the swapper took a massive performance hit with swap < 2x ram. That problem no longer exists.04:16
zerokillswoo! im installing Half-Life 204:17
EvanCarrollSwap is only used when you exhaust all your ram, if you end up moving into swap you either have a memmory leak, or are doing something rediciolusly abnormal, excessive swap is a waste of space04:17
Daveywhat does it mean when a package says it conflicts with something but I can't find that thing in the package manager? :)04:17
FingertipsEvanCarroll, do you know hwo to purge processes in linux?04:17
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SeamusLPzerokills:  I hear it runs well in cedega04:17
EvanCarrollFingertips: Yes, kill -s904:17
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Swap is used to page out unused apps, so ram is freed for disk cache. The system doesn't _only_ start using swap when ram runs out.04:17
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thoreauputicEvanCarroll: umm... not quite... you don't have to run out of RAM to start swapping04:17
islanderEvaCarroll: Would you watch your language04:17
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: I imagine the kernel will even swap out clean pages04:18
IIIEarsislander http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto/04:18
MezEvan 2 x or more and thore - which is why I sadi "reccomended"04:18
FingertipsFingertips, how do i see what processes are running04:18
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: yes it does.04:18
islanderthank you04:18
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: type free, it should read 0 used swap04:18
rixthmiracleblue, you need to get the source package of gaim, apt-get source gaim04:18
MezThe size of your swap partition should be equal to twice your computer's RAM, or 32 MB, whichever amount is larger, but no more than 2048 MB (or 2 GB)04:18
thoreauputicMez: OK :)04:18
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cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Please, go and read up on the VM subsystem.04:18
FingertipsEvanCarroll, how do i look @ the processes running04:18
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EvanCarrollFingertips: ps -aux04:19
EvanCarrollcthulfuego: please run the utility 'free'04:19
cthulfuego             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached04:19
cthulfuegoMem:       1020276     992228      28048          0      45524     39357204:19
cthulfuego-/+ buffers/cache:     553132     46714404:19
cthulfuegoSwap:      1953488      74208    187928004:19
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: Now go and read up on how the VM system works <heh>04:19
geetergodwhy do i always have to type 'killall esd' in the terminal before i can use sound?04:19
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EvanCarrollthen you have a problem, I have 3 linux boxes in front of me, two of them are running x, with numerious apps running one with 512 megs of ram the other with a gig no swap utilization both 2.6 kernels04:20
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: No, there is no problem. You are ignorant on the subject you're trying to lecture me on.04:20
thoreauputicEvanCarroll: you are misinformed04:20
miraclebluerixth: when you find out how to install thatstuff, plz send me a private msg, cause i just need to cook food for the monent04:20
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islanderEvanCarroll: Who are you04:21
miraclebluerixth: thanks ^_^04:21
cthulfuegogeetergod: Are your sound apps configured to use ESD?04:21
islanderEvanCarroll: is Mr Linux04:21
geetergodcthulfuego, i dunno, can you please help me with my sound?04:22
IIIEarsEvanCarrol is Finnish?04:22
geetergodcthulfuego, maybe that'll help me with my surround sound problem04:22
Daveyhow do I find out which serial port something is on?04:22
cthulfuegoEvanCarroll: The kernel _will_ swap out apps and services that have been idle for a long time, it will use the ram that frees up as disk cache, this provided a net performance _gain_.04:22
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cthulfuegoDavey: Try all, see which one works.04:23
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geetergodcthulfuego, Can you help me with my sound or are you busy?04:23
cthulfuegogeetergod: I'm busy.04:24
Daveycthulfuego: heh, thats not fun ;)04:24
geetergodcthulfuego, k04:24
Daveycthulfuego: I don't even know which dev devices they are on04:24
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rixthrixth@bear:~/Desktop/guifications-2.10/gaim-1.1.4/gaim-1.1.4$ sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev04:26
rixthReading package lists... Done04:26
rixthSegmentation faulty tree... 50%04:26
IIIEars EvanCarrol  feeling daring and have ram to spare? sysctl -a | grep vm    vm.overcommit_memory = 104:26
shanonWhat is a good news reader for ubuntu (gnome) desktop that handles binarys ?04:27
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TokenBadkeep getting errors trying to install some codecs04:28
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EvanCarrollIIIEars: mine is set to 004:28
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Kamping_KaiserWOOOT. Back in Gnome :)04:28
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CarlFKso I booted with init=/bin/bash, but / is mounted RO - how do I mout it RW?04:30
rixth What do you do when apt-get segfaults? It only does it if it's an install, apt-get update doesn't kill it, but apt-get install does.04:31
EvanCarrollrixth: run an strace on apt and file a bug report04:32
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rixthgettimeofday({1118457144, 644420}, NULL) = 0 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ **************** It did 'gettimeofday' many, many times before it died.04:32
EvanCarrollNow file a bug a report04:33
misfit-toyhmm, getting delayed mousification and typing and graphics, but just a tiny bit....this is day 3 of ubuntu for me, just noticed it....04:33
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cleeheh, ok, so the us archive having corrupted debs on it is a known issue? :)04:34
IIIEarsmisfit-toy what does your process list look like? "ps -e" or resources? "top"04:35
jegerevanhas anyone rolled out ubuntu in the enterprise here ?04:35
dstillzclee: I can't get kubuntu becasue of MD5Sum mismatch; do you think that might be related to whatever issue you're having?04:35
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cleedstillz: yep04:35
cleedstillz: I just replaced 'us.archive' with 'archive' in my sources.list04:36
IIIEarsmisfit-toy - Agh - ahem please don't paste it in channel. - whew got that out04:36
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, what do you mean exactly?04:36
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Kamping_Kaiserhi holycow04:37
holycowmr. kaiser :)04:37
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jegerevankamping: basically deployed ubuntu to a number of desktops..in a medium sized business environment..04:37
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, yes, but only as thin clients ;)04:38
EvanCarrolldstillz: is the md5sum mismatch on libgnomeui ?04:38
dstillzIt's on a significant number of packages.04:38
dstillzBut they're all KDE-related, from what I can tell.04:38
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jegerevangotchya. How many clients are you running ?04:38
cleelibgcrypt11, libaudiofile, libgtk2.004:39
cleeetc, etc04:39
cleethose were mine04:39
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, a dozen or so04:39
zerokillsSeamusLP: have you ever ran games on Cedega before? this is my first time04:39
IIIEarsubotu what is amnesia?04:39
ubotuIIIEars: I think you lost me on that one04:39
Kamping_Kaiserthey were stand alone, untill the server was there04:39
misfit-toyIIIEars, interesting, firestarter is gobbling up 39%04:39
Kamping_Kaisernow they are thin clients04:39
EvanCarrolldstillz: you can force an install excluding those packages with mismatches, or you can hack the md5sums to force an install of the possibly corrupted file (this could be bad if mirror was hacked)04:39
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cleeEvanCarroll: no, they're definitely corrupted04:39
cleeEvanCarroll: I think that the server has corrupted copies of the files04:39
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EvanCarrollclee: extract the downloaded deb and find out, the deb should fail to extract if not properly formatted04:40
dstillzThe packages are no good.  The actual .debs, I mean.04:40
IIIEarsmisfit-toy - I am only a few weeks old at this someone has the answer with the info you provided04:40
dstillzThe ones it says are corrupted.04:40
jegerevankamping, I see. Basically I support a network of around 50 desktops..all running 2000 at the moment. Would really love to move over to open source\ubuntu. Not sure whether think\thick clients would be the way to go!04:40
phxguyhas anyone here installed the new linux-image-2.6.10-5-386 from synaptic yet?04:40
cleeEvanCarroll: that's what I did, dude.04:40
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, what do the clients do?04:41
jegerevankamping, would also need to make sure its possible to integrate into AD for authentication04:41
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jegerevanactive directory04:41
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Knudanyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x04:41
Kamping_Kaiserphxguy yes, but its not new04:41
peloverdeIs there a way to make gnome search say ~/pixmaps before $datadir/pixmaps when finding icons?04:42
phxguythere a new version of it Kamping_Kaiser04:42
jegerevankamping, most are quite basic. Email, internet, ms office + one custom app.04:42
misfit-toyIIIEars, no prob, just checking the support here, it's been fairly good so far...wow I have keyboard lag too04:42
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IIIEarsmisfit-toy - if you feel bold "killall firestarter" or kill PID_that_is_firestarter04:42
phxguyits 2.6.10-34.204:42
cleekillall, pff04:42
cleepkill is so much cooler04:42
misfit-toyIIIEars, I don't want to kill my firewall ;)04:42
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, if they are willing to learn OO.o (or you use crossover) the "custom app" is your only problem... but whats AD?04:42
Kamping_Kaiseroh you said04:43
cleeactive directory04:43
kakaltoCould someone please help? I'm trying to install a 2cd game onto wine, and the setup is now asking for the 2nd cd. I can't umount the cd, to put in cd2. What can I do?04:43
thoreauputicmisfit-toy: actually you wouldn't - firestarter is just an iptables front end04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: have you tried eject?04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: that is the 'eject' utility04:43
EvanCarrollkakalto: or umount -l04:43
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, yes i think ADs supported (it better be ;))04:43
IIIEarsthoreauputic - can it corrupt anything if it misbehaves?04:43
kakaltoeject didn't work04:44
kakaltobut umount -l did04:44
jegerevankamping.. yes crossover is an option definately for the MS office apps. But the thing is, we are running MS 2003 server..in a domain environment. So would need ubuntu to be able to join a windows domain.04:44
phxguyguess ill install it and hope for the best since im getting much in here04:44
thoreauputicIIIEars: not really - having the GUI running isn't necessary at all, and AFAIK that's all you would kill04:44
misfit-toythoreauputic, but it's not firestarter, it's something else, can't put my finger on it...I get a lag on any input, mouse, keybd, etc...like very 5 seconds04:44
thoreauputicmisfit-toy: hmmm... I don't know04:44
Kamping_Kaiserjegerevan, it can I'm 90% sure, and if it wont, apt-get whatever whould work04:44
geetergodDoes linux suck for sound stuff?04:45
syndgeetergod: why you say that?04:45
kakaltoEvanCarroll, never mind, that didn't work04:45
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geetergodJust because it seems nobody can get their 5.1 surround sound to work04:45
Knudanyone help me? failed to initialize core devices when trying to start x04:45
misfit-toythoreauputic, yeah, now firestarter is back to 4%, it was just checking shit...this is weird.04:45
EvanCarrollkakalto: what did it do?04:45
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kakaltonever mind, it did work04:45
kakaltoEvanCarroll, thanks04:45
kakaltoI just needed to sudo eject04:45
syndmisfit-toy: i got that wireless card working : P04:45
Kamping_Kaiserknud, check the log, what fialed?04:46
danrienhey people04:46
misfit-toysynd, you already got it?04:46
danrieni kinda got a question for u pros04:46
geetergodsynd, ive been looking through the forums and see people with the same problem as me.. cant get their 5.1 surround sound to work with linux04:46
misfit-toysynd, I'm happy I was able to provide you a new toy!04:46
syndmisfit-toy: : )04:46
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syndgeetergod: are you using ubuntu for DVD?04:46
Knudthe mouse apparentkly04:46
danrienhaha alright04:47
IIIEarsthoreauputic - the easiest way would be a firestarter reinstall but, - grin - i am curious would tail and dmsg to a log be possible? syntax?04:47
danrienilljust get it out04:47
geetergodI use it for everything, gameplay, dvd's, music04:47
danrieni have an amd64 system and i cant get wine to install04:47
danrienwith 64 distro04:47
syndgeetergod: 5.1 music?04:47
Kamping_Kaiserknud, thats not a core device :S04:47
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thoreauputicIIIEars: you know more than me on those subjects, I'd say04:47
Knudaha it said failed to initialize pointer04:47
geetergodhave a 7.1 sound card and 5.1 speakers i cant get the surrounds and center speaker to work04:47
IIIEarslol - erm. - you are ever the humble guru. sorry to bother you.04:48
syndgeetergod: : /04:48
Kamping_Kaiserknud, not sure off the top of my head04:48
geetergodsynd, I see a lot of people have this problem with linux unfortunately04:48
Knudwhere can i find the log04:49
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Knudi'm new04:49
syndgeetergod: its not so much linux as it is the developers of your card04:49
syndproviding drivers, id say04:49
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Kamping_Kaiserknud /var/log/04:49
danriendoes anybody have wine working an amd64 system?04:50
xterminusi get 5.1 sound okay - but i have to explicitly tell my media player to output an ac3 signal (i currently use the soundstorm chipset, but i've used sblive and audigy cards for sound too)04:50
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xterminusw/ mplayer it's something like mplayer -hwac3 filename04:51
Knudconfugyred mouse cannot open input device unloadmodule mouse04:51
Knudno core pointer registered04:51
Knudfatal server error: failed to initialize core devices04:51
Knudthats what it says in the log04:51
dstillzI wish there was some way to speed GNOME up.04:52
kakaltowhere can I configure wine's drives (C:, D:. E:. etc. )04:52
synddstillz: how much RAM you got?04:52
IIIEarsdanrien - Hello! - You can help me! If the system locks up mouse/cursor after showing showing the desk and the boot log shows system clock errors what is the tip? hint?04:52
Kamping_Kaiserkakalto ~/.wine/04:52
IIIEarsAMD 6404:52
dstillzsynd: 512MB04:53
kakaltoKamping_Kaiser, which file? I tried config, but the drives weren't stated in the file04:53
cthulfuegodanrien: It works on occasion in the 32bit chroot, yes.04:53
synddstillz: gnomes probably not going to get much faster ; )04:53
synddstillz: you ought to try xfce, if you havent yet. it should cure your speed woes04:54
cthulfuegodstillz: What sort of cpu?04:54
Kamping_Kaisersynd. isnt novel doing some optomisations?04:54
dstillzcthulfuego: 1.5GHz Pentium Mobile04:54
syndKamping_Kaiser: no idea04:54
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cthulfuegodstillz: Gnome should be pretty much instantaneous on that.04:55
synddstillz: i agree04:55
danriencthulfuego: ok so it might work on a 64bit system?04:55
synddstillz: how slow is it?04:55
gm78Hi all. If i have a directory of source code that has subdirectories and i want to search that entire directory and all of its subdirectories for a single word (inside text files) how do i do that?04:55
cthulfuegodanrien: *only* in a 32bit chroot.04:55
EvanCarrollgm78: grep -R 'word' ./*04:55
dstillzsynd: I can see things redraw when I switch between windows, and there's a perceptible delay in menus04:56
KnudKamping_Kaiser there was fonts missing04:56
Knudgot it working now04:56
dstillzI'm running the latest nvidia drivers04:56
Kamping_Kaisercool ok :)  done knud04:56
gm78EvanCarrol : thank you....do i put the '  ' in it too?04:56
cthulfuegodstillz: Is your HD running at normal speed, in DMA mode?04:56
EvanCarrollgm78: they are implicit04:56
danriencthulfuego: ok i dont know what that means but im guessing it means im going to have to work some magic04:56
synddstillz: hm. i run gnome on a 1.7ghz celeron with 512MB RAM and i dont experience that. DMA on your HD perhaps?04:56
IIIEarsdstillz - is glxgears giving any clues?04:57
syndah, what cthulfuego said04:57
dstillzglxgears runs lightning fast04:57
cthulfuegodanrien: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id27429304:57
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Knudallthough now it seems kde got stuck on initializing perpherals04:57
Kamping_Kaiserdstillz, is it going into powersaving?04:57
dstillzKamping_Kaiser: I don't ever intend to unplug it, so I have it at maximum speed04:58
danrienthanks man04:58
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EvanCarrollgm78: but they won't hurt, see man pages for grep and rgrep and egrep04:58
danrienwhats the command for whispering btw? haha04:58
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dstillzIIIEars: I'm getting 2090fps in glxgears04:58
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EvanCarrolldstillz: then you have 3d acceleration enabled04:58
concept10has abyone recompiled the kernel? is the same as recompiling debian?04:58
cthulfuegosynd: PPC ubuntu runs fine on them right now.04:59
gm78EvanCarroll : OK. lets use red hat as an example. if i wanted to look for red hat copyright notices in some source code, i could do grep -R 'red hat' ./sourcedirectory/*04:59
syndcthulfuego: i agree04:59
cthulfuegoconcept10: You can use make-kpkg, yes.04:59
concept10cthulfuego: thanks04:59
syndcthulfuego: but triple boot OS X, Ubuntu, and WinXP sounds fun.04:59
dukeni want to convert my wallpapper to splasimage.xpm, what packet i must to install for convert utilitis ?04:59
EvanCarrollgm78: i would prefer 'grep -Ri 'red hat' ./sourcedir/*05:00
cthulfuegosynd: Apart from the WinXP bit. Why install a shit OS? ;-)05:00
Kamping_Kaiserare shutdown messages logged somewhere?05:00
syndcthulfuego: gaming05:00
EvanCarrollgm78: becuase grep is case sensative by default05:00
thoreauputicgm78: case sensitive, and I think Redhat is one word ;)05:00
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: yes, /etc/wtmp, or last05:00
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: failed logins in /etc/btmp05:00
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Kamping_Kaiserk. ta.05:00
gm78EvanCarroll: i tried grep -Rc 'red hat' ./source/*  to count the amount of times they show up, but it lists a number for each file, not a total number. is there a way i can get a total number05:01
EvanCarrollKamping_Kaiser: err no, its /var/log/wtmp, /var/log/btmp sorry05:01
cthulfuegogm78: pipe the output into "wc -l"05:01
Kamping_Kaiserevancarroll, i guesd ;)05:01
cthulfuegogm78: "rgrep -i 'red hat' ./sourcedir | "wc -l05:01
EvanCarrollgm78: you could either concatinate the contents with cat and send to grep, or add the numbers or maybe grep for the word and pipe to wc -l05:01
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JohnnyQuestwhat is the most recent/stable version of ubuntu?05:02
thoreauputicah.. red hat is indeed 2 words, except on the logo...interesting05:02
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K_DallasJohnnyQuest, it is in the topic ;)05:03
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JohnnyQuestya, it would be05:04
JohnnyQuestand i woudlnt read it05:04
JohnnyQuesti havnt used irc in years05:04
IIIEarsdstillz - only guessing that the linux kernel sees mobile HT processors as dual processors.05:04
JohnnyQuestever since i quit playing comptuer gtames05:04
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dstillzIIIEars: I think this thing is too old to support HT.  but I didn't check05:05
dstillzI simply installed fans and ribbon cables and a disk/caddy, and installed Ubuntu05:05
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gm78[ryan@ryanhp ~] $ grep -Ri 'red hat' ./linux- | wc05:08
gm78    459    4478   4355005:08
gm78[ryan@ryanhp ~] $05:08
gm78that was my output05:08
gm78what do those 3 numbers mean05:08
gm78or did i mess up the command?05:09
rixthI've install vnc4server, how do I start it?05:09
darius___wc - print the number of newlines, words, and bytes in files05:09
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darius___man pages... hate em, love em .. just use em :)05:09
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gm78ok, for my example then...that means there are 459 lines in the kernel that contain the words "red hat" ?05:10
gm78judging from the man page, thats what it means05:11
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bokkoCan two different linux distributions share the same swap space on a system?05:11
Madpilotevening, all. can someone remind me what the little 3d test prog in Ubuntu is called? The one with the gears?05:11
CarlFKbokko - yes.05:11
EvanCarrollgm78: they aren't in the kernel they are probably comments in the source05:11
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CarlFKeye wen!05:12
CarlFKoh wait... I still can't log in cuz I forgot my pw... I loose.05:12
Madpilot:) thnx, CarlFK. points for trying, IIIEars :p05:12
bokkoCarlFK; cool ok one more question, how do I set partition space on a drive as community space for both installs?05:12
IIIEarsCarlFK - you young whipper-snapper. - lol05:12
bob2bokko: "community spatcs"? you mean mounting it from both systems?05:13
gm78EvanCarroll : yeah, thats what i meant. the whole kernel thing isnt the reason im trying to figure this out, i am just using it to figure out grep since i had the source anyways. that number just seems weird05:13
bokkobob2: yes, both distributions05:13
CarlFKbokko - same lines in both fstab files05:13
miraclebluenerf!!  nerf i say05:13
EvanCarrollgm78: you can verify it if you want05:13
EvanCarrollgm78: use another method05:13
bokkoCarlFK: there any tutorials on modding fstab?  I tried to mess with it once and failed miserably05:13
darius___gm78: pull out wc to see the lines containing that text05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' | wc -l05:14
miraclebluehows it goin everyone?05:14
Madpilotwow, my glxgears FPS have tanked. same grphx card, same mobo, less than half of what I got last time I ran it...05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: find ./ -type f -exec grep -i 'red hat' {} \; | wc -l05:14
gm78my heads going to explode :P05:14
EvanCarrollgm78: bash scripting is ugly perl is much sexier05:15
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redbarchettahola a todo el mundo05:15
redbarchettaalguien habla espaol?05:15
redbarchettaAre you speak in spanish?05:15
miraclebluegm78: lol thats how i felt when i couldnt get Ubuntu to connect to my DSL connection, then i was just like "screw it" and went on my windows machine, and burned  Roaring Penguin's PPPoE config tool05:16
nobileredbarchetta hola05:16
redbarchettahola nobile05:16
nobileredbarchetta, si quieres ayuda sobre ubuntu, puedes ir a #ubuntu-es05:16
miraclebluehola...even though i dont speak spanish05:16
geetergodWhere do i configure my soundcard?05:16
gm78miracleblue : lol, yeah, i know that feeling. im fairly good with linux ive just never had a use for grep before05:16
nobilede nada =)05:17
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miraclebluehm78: im a complete n00b, but by fiddling with the pppd, i learned how to navigate with commands pretty quick05:17
geetergodDoes anyone know where to configure your soundcard?05:17
miraclebluehm78: I had to re-install Ubuntu twice05:18
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maruko`hey the fluxbux menu ( the menu that appears when i right click ) is very small05:18
miraclebluehm78: because i screwed little things up when trying to install other things the hard way, then found out about the repository multiverse lol05:18
EvanCarrollgm78: if you get bored, read 'info coreutil' and learn 5 rows of those commands a night05:18
gm78miracleblue : you should have seen me with SUSE. probably 5 or 6 reinstalls. then switched to debian/ubuntu on one machine and red hat on the other and they work great05:18
maruko`the letters just appear as small black boxes05:18
gm78CentOS actually but yeah05:19
maruko`and the width of the menu is just double the size of the cursos05:19
IIIEarsmiracleblue - can we be n00b pals? (6 weeks)05:19
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maruko`EDIT : err. the width is just the same as the cursor's width05:19
IIIEarsmiracleblue - It gets easier - thank god... - lol05:19
boowwhats with this md5 mismatch stuff05:19
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Drako60what would cause DNS servers to respond extremely slowly or not at all, other then a complete server outage05:20
miraclebluegm78: yeah, my first experience was with the all-easy all-hailed Linspire...i went into its pppoe config tool, and it froze up on me all the time, and i couldnt compile Roraring Penguin cause Linspire didnt have a gcc compiler or anything, because of its click n run thing (theyre just like microsoft, trying to get everyone to use their stuff only, and pay for it too)05:20
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gm78miracleblue : lol, yeah, linspire sucks. i never recommend it to anyone. i actually normally push CentOS cause of its long support cycle (people really care about that i find)'05:21
gm78and i like ubuntu personally05:21
boowpay for linux packages?05:21
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miracleblueyeah, pay a monthly fee to subscribe to their repository.  its shit.05:22
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gm78boow : if you are talking about linspire, then yes you do pay for them indirectly. you are actually paying for the service, you can freely redistribute the software, blah blah blah. nice idea....if only it worked like they advertise05:22
miracleblueand in return, never be able to compile any free software you download.  i smell a child of gates...05:22
IIIEarsmiracleblue - spared linspire by a hairs breadth - couldn't escape the initial walkthrough screens. - 'prolly for the best. - going to change the repository settings fairly quickly after clicking and run05:22
gm78miracleblue : they do offer gcc i believe, it is just kind of useless cause u dont get any -devel packages unless u buy their developers edition05:23
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miracleblueIIIEars: yeah, that walkthrough is annoying, luckily i found the close button05:23
gm78if u want something along the lines of linspire, go with xandros05:23
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boowon some of my sources in my sources.list i get md5sum mismatch on some packages whats going on05:24
miraclebluegm78: i tried downloading and burning a seperate GCC compiler so i could compile RP-PPPoE, but that didnt work for some reason05:24
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robert__Hey, DHCP isn't picking up an IP from my modem, any ideas?05:24
gm78miracleblue : did u download a gcc binary or the gcc source code? if it was the source code, u need gcc to compile it :P05:24
geetergodEEEEKKK I HAVE NO SOUND!!!05:24
geetergodand killall esd isnt working!05:25
miraclebluegm78: lol, that would make sense :P05:25
IIIEarsmiracleblue - bet you spent hours reading the same "How to change linspire repos" sites. - soon after, suse 9.3, mandrake (ugh), knoppix, and FreeBSD (worst)05:25
miracleblueIIIEars, nope, just tried finding a GCC compiler that would work when i was on my other windows machine.  spend hours, though05:25
gm78miracleblue : you could also probably use icc, but it probably isnt certified for linspire05:25
robert__miracleblue: Cygwin?05:26
miraclebluegm78 yeah, linspire is basically debian minus everything you need.05:26
boowi've never tried linspire never will now05:27
thickglassesi hate computers, ubuntu did something weird so i can't read my files on my external05:27
miracleblueyeah, i still have my linspire boot CD, i was temped to go back and try again when i couldnt get Ubuntu to play mp3s, after 3 days i did it05:27
holycowboow no try it if you can, just to see05:27
gm78boow : smart move05:27
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IIIEarsLinspire is a bit like Oz - "Don't pay attention the man behind the curtain" - grin05:27
nomasteryodathickglasses, what partition type?05:27
robert__so does anyone have any ideas why Ubuntu might not be picking up an IP lease from my modem?05:27
miraclebluelol, yep, agreed05:27
robert__no routers, connected directly to my 3com officeconnect cable modem.05:27
hondjescrew linspire, they CHARGE MONEY for gcc05:27
JohnnyQuestdownload it illegally05:28
robert__hondje: only if you install it thru their click n run system05:28
JohnnyQuestif you want it05:28
miracleblueyeah, they charge money to subscribe to the repository which is pretty limited compared to debians repositories05:28
robert__it's free if you apt-get it05:28
robert__but it still sucks05:28
miraclebluemm, basically ur paying a monthly fee for the web-based front end, huh?05:28
boowjust install gcc from gnu.org05:28
hondjeIt's free lots of ways, but chargin for gcc goes right to the heart of wrongness05:28
miraclebluei prefer ubuntu anyway, it came with gcc and all i need to compile stuff, and a better repository05:29
gm78boow : doesnt work. they only offer source code. u need a compiler (icc might work) first to compile gcc05:29
robert__hondje: why?05:29
robert__they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc05:29
hondjerobert__: Because gcc is the heart of Gnu, and all that it implies05:29
robert__they're charging for access to their repos, not gcc05:29
boowi forgot you need a compiler to compile gcc lol05:29
hondjeThey're charging for their click-install thing, the convenience, but its still wrong to me05:29
gm78hondje : i do disagree with u there, the gpl clearly says u can charge for the software05:29
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robert__and richard stalmann encourages it05:30
hondjeI know what the gpl says, doesn't mean it's not disgusting05:30
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robert__hondje: so is it wrong for people to charge for cdr's of linux os's too?05:30
miraclebluemm, but in their repositories, they have lots of free software, which you have to pay the monthly access fee to get access to05:30
hondjelike it's illegal to watch a dvd in linux in the US...it's illegal, but that doesn't mean it's wrong05:30
EvanCarrollgm78: hrm05:30
hondjeNo, of course not05:30
gm78hondje : thats why u need a value add to charge for it (hint:the system to actually work unlike linspire)05:30
EvanCarrollgm78: i got bored so i reread grep man page it has a -c option05:30
IIIEarsDespair set in after the second XP install in one month and the fifth linux distro. - got a tip in a windows chat about Ubuntu. Ubuntu has taken over 2 of four machines. the others are just for windows games. (too lazy for cedega) lots of FPS games have ports05:30
chatingwhere i have get kernel-patch-bootsplash ??05:31
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EvanCarrollgm78: grep -Rci 'red hat' ./dir will work too05:31
hondjeI don't have a big problem with Novell charging for suse, either05:31
robert__so does anyone have any ideas why my dhcp client isn't picking up any IPs05:31
dukenwhat repository must be add ?05:31
Drako60i want to know why my dns isn't working05:31
robert__hondje: shouldn't, novell and red hat put a lot of money and programmers into open source05:31
JohnnyQuestwhy is it illegal to watch dvds in linux?05:31
EvanCarrollrobert__: run tethereal on one console05:31
miracleblueoh by the way guys, anyone know of a windows emulator for linux so that i can run fruityloops and some games?05:31
EvanCarrollrobert__: then run dhclient on another05:31
hondjeBut Novell isn't going to charge you to install gcc and enjoy Freedom, that's what gets me05:31
dukenwhat repository must be add to get kernel-patch-bootsplash05:31
robert__JohnnyQuest: DRM05:32
robert__hondje: again, linspire isn't charging you for GCC05:32
EvanCarrollJohnnyQuest: digital rights managament05:32
flankki have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?05:32
robert__you can still get it free05:32
IIIEarshondje - generally you get what you pay for. - not a bad thing. there is a notable exception though - wide grin05:32
JohnnyQuestbut i can watch it on my windows?05:32
dukenanyone know?05:32
hondjerobert__: I don't expect you to agree :)05:32
gm78JohnnyQuest : Sony just has a stick up their ass (excuse my language)05:33
hondjeNo one agrees with my stance on downloading movies, either :)05:33
robert__hondje: I agree with what you're saying, but it's wrong05:33
JohnnyQuesti agree hondje05:33
hondjeIIIEars: I paid lots for what I get05:33
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robert__they're paying for access to their servers and "support" ;p05:33
JohnnyQuesti agree on downloading music05:33
miracleblueill tell you who has a stick up their ass, bill gates.  he has a stick, and a bunch of hundred dollar notes shoved up there05:33
boowyea but you buy the software to decode dvds in windows but there are free codecs05:33
robert__I have 37 RHEL boxes running in our datacenter here in Denver05:33
IIIEarsUbuntu is Free as in Freedom and as in Free Beer05:33
flankkmiracleblue, troll.05:33
hondjerobert__: there's 1 in my office in Pueblo ;-)05:34
JohnnyQuestyou can get anydvd or dvdshrink and it allows you to do anything with a dvd in windows05:34
zerokillshey i need to update my video driver. im at the web site now. which should i get:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT64, FreeBSD, or Solaris x64/x8605:34
hondjeJohnnyQuest: you can, but it's technically illegal in the US05:34
hondjeBut that doesnt' make it wrong...and it's not against the gpl to charge for gcc, but that doesn't make it right05:34
gm78miracleblue : yes, but it is sony that is forcing people to cease development on dvd decoders05:34
JohnnyQuestso is me downloading movies, music, windows, ms office, and my whole computer05:34
robert__hondje: we're running out of data393 and viawest05:34
boowwell not copyrighted dvds05:34
flankki have php4 from hoary, i see it was compiled without mysql support. is there any way i can get this without having to compile?05:35
miraclebluegm78, damn, what assholes05:35
hondjerobert__: ah, cool05:35
zerokillswhich of the following is Ubuntu considered?:  Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EMT6405:35
miraclebluezerokills: what kinda processor do you have?05:36
gm78flankk : not everyone who makes a statement u find wrong or disagree with is a troll. Now if miracleblue came on here and said "Ubuntu sucks, SUSE rules" that would be trolling05:36
zerokillsAMD Athlon 1700+05:36
flankkgm78, now can you answer my question, or are you here to stir up the dust also?05:36
robert__zerokills: then none of the ones you listed05:36
Sepheebearzerokills:  Linux IA3205:36
JohnnyQuestanyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?05:36
gm78miracleblue : i believe it was sony who went after libdvdcss and they just now forced someone to cease developing another dvd decryption tool05:36
robert__hm, I didn't think Itanium ran 32 bit05:37
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miraclebluegm78: ....what complete assholes05:37
IIIEarsTreating all of your customers like theives is good business.05:37
JohnnyQuestyes it is05:38
IIIEars< now thats trolling - lol05:38
gm78flankk : not sure about that....i am more familiar with rpms, where you could rebuild the source rpm adding options. maybe debs have something like this?05:38
miracleblueIIIEars: amen to that =P05:38
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boowits hard to find libdts nowdays05:38
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robert__hondje: how is Pueblo? I've never been there...05:38
JohnnyQuestanyone installed mythtv onto unbuntu?05:38
IIIEarsis libdta any good?05:38
nickrudflankk I think what you want is php4-mysql, it's in universe05:38
IIIEarsis libdts any good?05:38
miraclebluebrb guys, im gonna cook some food05:38
flankknickrud, ah thanks, i'll change my sources :)05:38
gm78JohnnyQuest : god no....have fun with that. that thing is incredibly hard to install. i gave up05:39
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boowif you've had mplayer playing a dts dvd then you know05:39
flankknickrud, any idea why it is commented that universe will not recieve security updates, when right below are two security update sources for universe?05:40
IIIEarsffmpg - is on it's last gasp also see the project page on sourceforge.05:41
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gm78IIIEars : why is it on its last breath?05:41
boowso is mplayer05:41
robitailleflankk,  universe will receive the odd security update...but they are rare05:41
IIIEarsit was choked to death.05:41
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gm78IIIEars : lol, i mean what killed it. patents, lack of development, etc.?05:42
nickrudas best I understand it, canonical promises security for main, and provides tools for the motu's to do security for universe05:42
flankkrobitaille, alright. nickrud, thanks, php4-mysql works great. :)05:42
LinuxJonesIIIEars, you should be choked to death :)05:42
hondjerobert__: Not too bad a place to live05:42
hondje100k people, so not too small that you have to drive to another town for things, but small enough you dont' have traffic05:43
theshoecan anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."05:43
robert__Hell, to be honest I couldn't even pick Pueblo out of a map on CO05:43
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hondjerobert__: down I-25, other side of the springs05:43
robert__southern co?05:43
robert__i was thinking eastern, but that's grand junction05:43
hondjeyeah, about 30 miles S. of the springs05:43
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:44
boowwhy become a programmer if theres all these patent restictions05:44
dukenplease help me05:44
robert__hondje: so is it like desert out there?05:44
robert__we got rain bad today here05:44
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zerokillsERROR:  You appear to be running an X server; please exit x before installing. For further details... blah blah blah... Anyone know what i should do?05:44
dukenwhere repository to get bootsplash ?05:44
gm78duken : with what?05:44
hondjerobert__: semi-arrid, not as bad as the planes, but not as wet as springs/denver05:44
LinuxJonesIIIEars, ffmpg rocks baby !!05:44
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:44
robert__denver usually doesn't get as much rain as we've been getting... it's odd05:44
boowzerokills, telinit 305:44
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dukeni'm use hoary05:45
hondjeYeah, and we've had less than usual, go figure ;)05:45
zerokillsboow, whats that?05:45
hondjerobert__: Ironically, I'll be up in denver tomorrow05:45
robert__which town?05:45
robert__heh, k05:45
boowswitch to runlevel 3 exit the xserver05:45
hondjeSome oil company is paying for me to play in eliches all day05:45
robert__i'm in Arvada05:45
dukenwhere i get kernel-patch-bootsplash, bootsplash05:45
geetergodIs there a way to just reset all your sound stuff?05:45
robert__i haven't been to six flags forever05:46
thoreauputicboow: runlevel 3 doesn't exist by defult in debian distros05:46
hondjeI wouldn't either, $60 a person is retarded05:46
thoreauputicso that won't work05:46
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gm78geetergod : what do u mean reset ur sound stuff?05:46
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geetergodgm78, i was trying to get my surround speakers to work now i have no sound :(05:47
thoreauputiczerokills: to exit X , run sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:47
yonilAm i the only one with this: gmail.com sends me "certificates" every 2 minutes. i dont even know what it means, and im not surfing to gmail.com ! whats going on ??05:47
geetergodgm78, i think i did something in Multi Track Internal Clock05:47
gm78geetergod : sorry, im not sure about that05:48
CarlFKgeetergod - i think your best bet is to try to get them working05:48
geetergodgm78, my esd doesnt seem to be working05:48
geetergodCarlFK, how?05:48
geetergodthis has got me bummed right out05:49
theshoecan anyone explain to me how i change refresh rates? in control panel it says: "Your X server does not support  resizing and rotating the display. Please update..."05:49
CarlFKgeetergod - what does lspci show for your sound card?05:49
robert__hondje: yeah, my cousins have summer passes05:49
gm78geetergod : try switching to alsa....i have had nothing but problems with esd...there should be an option for that somewhere in the settings menu under sound05:49
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robert__I got in using one of theirs once since we all look alike05:49
hondjeThey msut enjoy it ;)05:49
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zerokillsthoreauputic thanks05:50
geetergodCarlFK, just put a Chaintech 7.1 in it today05:50
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geetergodgm78, i think im on alsa but how do i switch over?05:50
CarlFKgeetergod - what does ->lspci<- show for your sound card?05:50
chombeeAny XFCE users here? I want to know how to get tomboy working. I installed it, but how do I start it in xfce?05:51
geetergod0000:00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy2 4PT/HT]  PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)05:51
JohnnyQuesthow do i install a program in ubuntu?05:51
geetergodCarlFK, that?05:51
CarlFKyeah, that ;)05:51
chombeeJohnnyQuest - use Synaptic Package Manager in the System menu05:51
JohnnyQuestthank you05:51
geetergodCarlFK, is that ok?05:52
IIIEars"System" >> "Administration" .. "Synaptic  Package Manager"05:52
CarlFKgeetergod - yes, looking it up on http://www.alsa-project.org05:53
geetergodk kool05:53
geetergodCarlFK, when i type lsof /dev/snd/* in the command line i get...05:55
geetergodaplay     7304      root  mem    CHR 116,16      8351 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p05:55
geetergodmixer_app 7468 geetergod   36u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC005:55
geetergodgnome-vol 8386 geetergod   16u   CHR  116,0      7633 /dev/snd/controlC05:55
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CarlFKgeetergod - don't paste more than one line05:55
geetergodsorry, didnt think it'd be that big05:55
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JohnnyQuesti cant figure out synaptic package manager05:58
JohnnyQuesti got into the program05:58
geetergodthanks for helping CarlFK05:58
JohnnyQuestbut, i cant figure out how to install the program i want05:58
CarlFKgeetergod - may want to see http://www.d.kth.se/~vuorio/sound.en.php05:59
JohnnyQuestit is uncompressed but, i dont know how to install it05:59
CrustyPunkHey, this has nothing to do with Ubuntu at all; but does anyone here happen to have Vavoom successfully installed?05:59
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geetergodCarlFK, the sound was working an hour ago though06:00
skelwhats the best way to get ubuntu to redetect my video hardware again? X -configure doesn't seem to be as accurate as whatever originally ran on install?06:00
CarlFKgeetergod - but something was wrong, else you wouldn't have messed with it ;)06:00
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Kirschhey guys, how do u reset your Xorg.conf by executing the apt-get06:01
CrustyPunkskel: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?06:01
geetergodCarlFK, surround sound i couldnt get to work06:01
Kirschah, thx CrustyPunk06:01
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CrustyPunkHah. Awesome.06:01
CrustyPunkHelped someone without even trying06:01
CrustyPunkI rock06:01
skelCrustyPunk: yes, and everything seems well though its jittery and it got the wrong sync ranges06:01
CrustyPunkOh. Well, then I'm at a loss. I'm a bit of a noob.06:02
skelCrustyPunk: ok well thanks for the tip anyway =] 06:02
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CrustyPunkCan't you manually set the sync ranges with xserver-xorg?06:02
peloverdeIs anyone else having md5 mismatches?06:02
skelCrustyPunk: I already manually set them in the xorg.conf, yes though still jittery.. not sure why06:02
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CrustyPunkI'm at a loss again06:03
black13how i install syslog-ng06:03
black13apt-get install syslog-ng?06:03
CrustyPunkblack13: apt-cache search syslog06:03
pepsihey this is fun :D firefox is broken in breezy now06:03
nemikbesides retrobox.com, does anyone know where i can get really old cheap boxes? preferably in the chicago area...sorry this is so off topic06:03
CrustyPunkblack13: That's to search for the package name06:04
foxinesshi,how use qemu ? did you tried last ver .07 , is this ver come with kqume bulit-in or what ?06:04
CrustyPunkblack13: And then the command would be apt-get install <package>06:04
foxinesshow - who06:04
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black13apt-cache search syslog-ng returns nada06:04
nemikblack13: make sure you do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change to universe in case the basic default ones don't have your package06:05
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razAnyone ever fixed the "CPU frequency scaling unsupported" that one gets when trying to run the built-in CPU Freq. Monitor? (Pentium-M laptop)..06:06
CrustyPunkblack13: apt-get install syslog-ng should work if you have the correct repositories.06:06
CrustyPunkblack13: Do what nemik said.06:06
CrustyPunk(After updating, of course_06:06
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black13i have this line: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe06:06
nemikwith no # in front of it?06:07
CrustyPunkIs it commented out?06:07
black13no it is not06:07
nemikok then do apt-get update06:07
nemikno wait!06:07
black13no wait it is06:07
CrustyPunkTake out the #06:07
nemikus.archive is down like topic says; found that out the hard way today! :D06:08
CrustyPunkthen do "sudo apt-get update"06:08
CrustyPunkAnd when that's done06:08
nemikchange to just archive.ubuntu...06:08
nemikyea then do sudo apt-get update06:08
CrustyPunkapt-get install syslog-ng06:08
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nemikhehe sorry i'm interrupting you crusty06:08
CrustyPunkHas anyone here perchance successfully compiled Vavoom?06:08
CrustyPunkIt's okay =P06:09
black13now running apt get update06:09
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nemikthis is so cool! i love linux! just last weekend, i didn't even know what apt-get was! let alone sudo06:09
CrustyPunkapt-get is my hero.06:09
nemiki'm dead serious06:09
nemikyea, i agree06:09
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CrustyPunkI'm a bit of a newbie too06:09
CrustyPunkThis is the sixth time (at least) I've installed Ubuntu06:10
CrustyPunkI keep managing to break it06:10
CrustyPunkBut I think I have the hang of it no.06:10
Lafitte-CrustyPunk,  breaking it how ?    grin06:10
nemikmine is ok most of the time, but because of stability for what i use it for, i only use the "server" version now06:10
CrustyPunkLafitte-: Nubbish stupidity.06:11
nemikforced me to become quite adept at terminal and shell scripting! :D06:11
Lafitte-CrustyPunk,   eheh06:11
CrustyPunkI want to play Vavoom D=06:11
Lafitte-nemik,  nice ::)06:11
nemikwhat is vavoom?06:11
CrustyPunkBut I dont' want to have to boot to Windows to install the Windows version06:11
CrustyPunkIt's a port of the following games for Linux06:12
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CrustyPunk*finds a list*06:12
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CrustyPunkDoom, Doom II, Strife, heretic, Hexen06:12
nemikhehe cool!06:12
Lafitte-id games06:12
Lafitte-i used to love heretic06:13
nemikand it probably runs them better on much crappier systems that what they were intended for06:13
CrustyPunkDoom Shareware, Doom II: TNT Evilution, Doom II: PLutinia Experiment, Heretic shareware, Ultimate Doom06:13
Lafitte-and hexen06:13
CrustyPunkbasically all the old school ID games06:13
CrustyPunkBUT IT GETS BETTER!06:13
black13old school is right06:13
CrustyPunkThere are optional high-res textures06:13
CrustyPunk3D models06:13
nemikspeaking of crappy systems...where do you guys get yours? i'm looking for some 300 - 900 mhz systems...06:13
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CrustyPunknemik: I'm running a PII 930 mhz06:14
CrustyPunkI'm hardcore06:14
nemikretrobox is super, but shipping at $27.50/box is $$$06:14
boowi like doomsday06:14
nemikPII? you mean PIII?06:14
Lafitte-nemik,  in cali here there is a store who buys out business machines when they are old and restores them up and sells06:14
truz24I wish flashfxp would get ported to linux06:14
CrustyPunkI sure do06:14
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black13black13, met john carmack06:14
CrustyPunknemik: try newegg.com06:14
CarlFKnemik - I get P2-333 64meg boxes for about $15 in Chicago06:14
Lafitte-truz24,  true daT06:15
nemiki'm in chicago!06:15
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zachim running on a P2 23306:15
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CrustyPunkBut anyway, I can't get Vavoom to compile... no one has it installed? D=06:15
nemikcarlFK, where can i get such boxes?06:15
CarlFKnemik - chi.forsale06:15
CrustyPunkIf anyone's interested06:15
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CarlFKnemik - news group06:16
CrustyPunkI just found a full list of the ported games as well as the changes06:16
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nemikdamnit! just when i canceled my newsgroup account last month...06:16
nemikany way to see its articles free?06:16
CarlFKnemik - I hear http://www.craigslist.org too06:16
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CarlFKnemik - yeah06:17
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nemikyea i checked craigslist chi, but overprices (more than ebay) and the good ones don't reply06:17
boowCrustyPunk, give doomsday a try if you want to play doom they have a linux version06:17
IIIEarsAny Unreal Tournament afficianados here? - grin06:17
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robert__nemik: I think people just get sick of replying to the bs'ers on craigslist. when I listed my car I had about 20 offers. maybe 2 were serious.06:18
CarlFKnemik - you want watch for Ken in evenston06:18
robert__I ended up selling it to the gf because they were way below what I wanted for it ;)06:18
scottcan anyone tell me how to change the refresh rate of my monitor? just installed kubuntu and the fglrx drivers and now i cant change refresh rate06:18
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IIIEarsboow - tried Doom 3 in linux?06:18
nemikken in evanston..this is all good06:19
yccheoki want to eject my cd rom but no responde, wat i should do?06:19
robert__yccheok: 'eject cdrom' in shell06:19
robert__that doesn't work?06:19
boowdoom3 anit running on this six year pc06:19
nemiknow gotta find a way to access chi.forsale....06:19
yccheokrobert__:eject: unable to open `/dev/hdd'06:19
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yccheoki tried, just wont work06:19
boowtried the leak doom3 5 fp206:20
robert__yccheok: in shell, type 'eject cdrom'06:20
boowtried the leak doom3 5 fps06:20
black13leak doom306:20
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boowthe leaked version06:21
black13leaked source06:21
black13or binary06:21
IIIEarsboow - It's very scarey. - though the save game file gets massive fast.06:21
IIIEarsno audio clues for hidden doors like the original.06:21
boowmabye when i get me a amd 6406:22
nemikcarlFK, thank you so much! found ken, hopefully he's got some left and i can pick some up this weekend06:22
ubuntuHi.. I'm runnng ubuntu from live eval now.. but my mouse dont work.. how can I configure my mouse?06:22
ubuntudevice database dont detect too06:22
IIIEarsHello ubuntu welcome!06:22
boowis it a usb mouse06:23
IIIEarstry - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg after CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE06:23
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boowsudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse06:24
IIIEarssymlink? - hm06:24
scottIIIears: didnt work06:24
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ekCo_hey i got a huge problem06:25
ekCo_i went to install my linux drivers..06:25
ekCo_and it killed gdm06:25
ekCo_and all traces of it06:25
ekCo_im stuck in the terminal..06:25
hondjeyour linux drivers?06:25
ekCo_nvidia drivers soz06:25
boowtry sudo modprobe psmouse too06:25
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hondjeekCo_: /etc/init.d/gdm restart doesn't bring it back up?06:26
bob2ekCo_: following the howto on the wiki, you mean?06:26
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ekCo_theres the new drivers06:26
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stevedogi can't install Hoary on my iMac G506:26
ekCo_and i went to install via, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx etc06:26
stevedogits saying "cannot find common CD-rom"06:26
OpzzzzHow cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?06:26
ekCo_when i did this, it started removing gdm and gnoem stuff, i thought hey this isn't right06:26
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ekCo_then all of sudden06:26
muttDChas anyone installed the drivers for an ati radeon 9600xt ??06:26
ekCo_i crashed and im stuck in terminal06:27
ekCo_when i try and run gdm06:27
BockBilbohey there06:27
ekCo_it says nothing is found06:27
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BockBilbois it possible to allow non authentification access to samba shares so no user neither pass has to be introduced?06:27
ekCo_now it says, gdm command not found..06:27
OpzzzzHow cai I install my sux ps2 mouse on Ubuntu?06:27
ekCo_what can i do?06:27
boowOpzzzz, sudo modprobe psmouse06:27
bob2ekCo_: "new drivers"?06:27
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bob2ekCo_: the packages mentioned on the wiki do not remove gdm06:28
bob2what EXACTLY did you do?06:28
IIIEarsekco - "sudo command"?06:28
ekCo_sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx06:28
gp_aaronI need to change where my ipod auto mounts, it currently auto-mounts to /media and I want it to mount to /mnt, how do I do this?06:28
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ekCo_and all of sudden, bang everything crashed06:28
gp_aaronfstab has no entry for my ipod06:28
Daveyanyone know what package aclocal is int?06:28
ekCo_im in the terminal now, using bitchx06:28
bob2Davey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/06:28
bob2gp_aaron: "need"? why?06:28
bob2gp_aaron: it has nothing to do with fstba, gnome-volume-manager does it06:28
Opzzzzsudo modprobe psmouse didn't work06:29
ekCo_ok, nvidia drivers seem to be installed.. but their is no traces of gdm06:29
ekCo_i'll get dmesg for you bob2.06:29
gp_aaroni got it, thanks though06:29
hondjethen install it again, apt-get install gdm06:29
bob2ekCo_: why did you let apt remove gdm, anyway?06:29
bob2ekCo_: and where did you get these packages from?06:30
ekCo_i didnt notice06:30
kaliasHi!  Are there any gtk-gnutella users out there?06:30
boowsudo ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse06:30
gp_aaronekCo_, irssi is so much better then bitchx imo06:30
ekCo_not one of my problems right now06:30
gp_aaronkalias, i use gtk-gnutella sometimes06:30
ekCo_ok bob2..06:30
ekCo_i went to play cs.. using cedega06:30
ekCo_it crashed06:30
ekCo_segmentation fault06:30
ekCo_i then checked glxgears06:30
ekCo_segmentation fault06:30
ekCo_then i found i had no nvidia drivers..06:30
raz<-- noob: why can't I:  mv /Desktop/acpi* /usr/src06:31
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ekCo_so i installed them ysing, 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx'06:31
bob2raz: because /Destkop doesn't exist06:31
kaliasgp_arron: Hi :) Pleased to meet you :)  The program works for me but in the upper right hand corner there is a small box that says I am firewalled.06:31
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bob2raz: what are you trying to do?06:31
ekCo_bob2, it then install the drivers06:31
Opzzzzboow? and after? Did it work quickly?06:31
ApesMaLooking to install the latest nvidia driver, but when I try to follow advice in Ubuntu forum (uninstall the nvidia-related packages), synaptic tells me that removing nvidia-kernel-common would require removing packages that seem rather essential (linux-386 among others).  Has nvidia 1.0-7664 been made a package that apt-get can install yet?06:31
kaliasgp_arron: Is this important?06:31
ekCo_and for some gay reason all of gdm then crashed06:31
wondering_jew"error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"?06:31
bob2ekCo_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct06:31
razbob2, moving a file whose name starts with acpi and is sitting in my desktop to /user/src06:31
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ekCo_i cant view it bob206:32
Opzzzzboow? and after? Did it work quickly?06:32
ekCo_i got no web browser /desktop lol06:32
bob2ekCo_: also, before this, you were running a normal system, with no silly binary drivers?06:32
wondering_jewchat the file is there when i searched06:32
bob2raz: that directory is ~/Desktop06:32
ekCo_yes bob206:32
wondering_jewooops mud habit06:32
ekCo_everything was perfect06:32
Daveybob2: I can't seem to find it, but its a rather fundamental build tool from what I can tell :)06:32
boowOpzzzz, is it working06:32
BaerdI have delete de sudoers how can recover new user for sudo?06:32
ekCo_just how i liked it06:32
kaliasgp_arron: It says I appear to be firewalled both tcp and udp wise.06:32
bob2ekCo_: but why are you doing that?06:32
ekCo_installing nvidia?06:32
ekCo_no drivers were found..06:32
boowcheck your xorg.conf06:32
ekCo_in xorg it has my video card details06:33
Opzzzzwhere is it?06:33
ekCo_but i have nothing on gdm06:33
bob2Davey: anyway, it's in automake-X06:33
bob2ekCo_: so, install the "ubuntu-desktop" package06:33
kaliasnickrud: Hey nickrud :)  How is life?06:34
ekCo_sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?06:34
bob2ekCo_: indeed06:34
razAnyone that ever installed ACPI4Linux, a hand would be appreciated! :D06:34
bob2raz: what is it?06:34
bob2raz: ubuntu already has excellent acpi support06:34
ekCo_will i have my old skins etc?06:34
ekCo_and settings?06:34
bob2ekCo_: I don't know what a "skin" is06:34
ekCo_well theme06:35
bob2but it won't touch any of your settings06:35
stevedogi can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"06:35
boow/etc/X11/xorg.conf look for /dev/psaux06:35
razbob2, well, really? hmm.. my CPU Frequency Monitor tells me "CPU frequency scaling unsupported", any ideas?06:35
ekCo_ok bob2, it seems to be working06:35
BaerdI have delete the first user whit privilege for use sudo how can back root ?06:35
ekCo_lemme look more into this, and i will get back :)06:35
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bob2Baerd: don't do silly things like that in future06:35
bob2Baerd: reboot and hit esc over and over until you get the grub menu06:36
bob2Baerd: then select the "recovery" option06:36
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Baerdtxn bob206:36
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bob2Baerd: then do "adduser username admin", to add username to the admin group, which gives them sudo rights06:36
zerokillsanyone know how to disable sound servers or other applications that may be using sound?06:36
bob2raz: perhaps your hardware is not yet supported06:36
bob2raz: I'd be very surprised if recompiling helped, tho06:36
flodinea guy just got a video card that supports 1900x1200 why wont ubuntu displaythis06:36
bob2raz: did this used to work?06:36
razbob2, under xp, yes.06:37
bob2flodine: perhaps it's buggy, or your monitor is06:37
bob2flodine: what sort of video card?06:37
bob2zerokills: fuser -v /ds06:37
razbob2, the cpu freq. monitor? no.06:37
flodinemy monitor is brand new 24 inch dell06:37
bob2zerokills: er, fuser -v /dev/snd/*06:37
bob2flodine: are you using a KVM?06:37
zerokillsbob2: k thanks06:37
wondering_jewim trying to istall e17 using the script in the ubuntu forums, when it trys to build the deb for emotion i get this error "error while loading shared libraries: libiconv.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"06:37
bob2zerokills: then kill the pids06:37
bob2wondering_jew: the script is broken, talk to whoever wrote it06:37
wondering_jewi found the file with locate...06:37
ekCo_thanks bob2!!!06:38
flodinewhats kvm06:38
wondering_jewk thanks06:38
flodinebob2 whats KVM06:38
zerokillsbob2: whats the asterisk stand for?06:38
bob2zerokills: "all files in that directory"06:39
ekCo_out of curiosity anyone running nvidia 7664 drivers?06:39
hondjeekCo_: I am, why?06:39
ekCo_how did you get them running?06:39
ekCo_i cant seem to when i tried about 2 weeks ago06:39
zerokillsbob2: i typed it in like you said and nothing came up06:39
bob2zerokills: then nothing is using it06:39
misfit-toyflodine, kvm - keyboard, video, mouse06:39
bob2ekCo_: it's really way way better to stay with the ubuntu drivers06:40
zerokillsbob2: sweet, thanks again06:40
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ekCo_im a diplomatic gamer, i must have speed :D06:40
hondjeekCo_: it's not worth the hastle, unless you have a lot of free time and someone handy who has patience06:40
hondjeI haven't noticed a speedup with them06:40
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ekCo_thanks all06:41
razAnyone got the 'CPU Frequency Monitor' to work with Toshiba Laptops?06:41
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bob2raz: it works for lots of people06:41
razbob2, why not me!06:41
bob2I don't know06:42
CarlFKraz - it is working on my 610006:42
bob2try filing a bug on the linux package in bugzilla06:42
hondjehey look, /etc/modprobe.d/toshiba_acpi.modprobe thing06:42
razbob2, well, maybe its on my end..06:42
hondjethat's pretty neat06:43
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razhondje, got that file.. what's neat about it (noobie here)06:43
hondjeraz: That fact that someone cared enough to create it06:43
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razhondje, ahem.. and is there a way to... say, enabled it?06:44
hondjeI'd imagine it'd be done06:44
hondjefor you06:44
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razhondje, 'tomaticly?06:44
hondjeraz: That'd be my guess, but I know nothing about laptops06:44
hondjeI installed RH on a hp a couple years back, worked fine, and suse on a thinkpad a month ago, worked fine06:45
razis it possible to 'reinstall' the, say, 'acpu module' of ubuntu?06:45
hondjeI don't know06:45
hondjeI don't grok acpi/apm06:45
hondjeI'm not sure what they are, let alone how to mess wtih them :)06:46
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boowacpi whats the problem06:46
stevedogi can't install Ubuntu on my G5 iMac, its saying "cannot find a common cdrom"06:46
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bob2stevedog: did you try a network install?06:47
stevedogno,  i don't have the bandwidth06:47
stevedogand it makes no sense because i can boot from the CD06:47
bob2I mean, pxeboot06:47
stevedoguh no06:47
bob2well, it does make sense if you can't install from the cd :)06:47
boowraz, whats your acpi problem06:47
razboow, well, i guess #1 is that Ubuntu's CPU Freq. Scalling Monitor won't work w/ my system?06:48
zerokillsguys my screen is zoomed in really close. i checked the screen resolution and its what its supposed to be =\06:48
bob2zerokills: no, it's not06:49
boowI've never messed with that sorry i cant help06:49
bob2if you have to scroll around, then your res is not what you think it is06:49
bob2raz: it's a kernel thing, not a monitor problem06:49
bob2raz: please file a bug on the "linux" package in bugzilla06:49
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concept10Raz: yeah its a kernel problem, not ubuntu06:50
hondjezerokills: ctrl-alt-+ (the + on the numpad) help?06:50
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razbob2, oki.06:50
zerokillshondje bob2: i just went back into screen res. and set it for a different size, then set it back, that fixed it06:50
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hondjenothing like a random fix06:51
boowim gonna fire up ie6 in linux and listen to lauch.com06:51
flodineok guys dont understan ubuntu cant do 1900x 120006:51
flodinei guess it not ready06:51
hondjeflodine: why not?06:51
bob2flodine: of course it can06:51
bob2flodine: don't be a stupid troll06:52
geneo93any idea why i'm getting a md5sum mismatch for libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb06:52
flodineim trying06:52
flankkbob2, you're a real prick.06:52
bob2perhaps it can't autodetect your particular  card06:52
flodinejust gor a new nvidia that supports 1900x120006:52
bob2flankk: charming06:52
flodineis there something im missing06:52
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hondjeokay, but is xorg configured to support it?06:52
bob2x.org supports it fine06:53
hondjeright vert/horiz, nvidia drivers, etc?06:53
bob2nvidia cards have problems with autoconfiguration under some circumstances06:53
flodinewhats the command to configure it06:53
flodinefoe xorg06:53
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bob2that's unlikely to be the problem06:53
bob2but 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'06:54
flodinebob2 then what should i do06:54
bob2then you need to configure it manually06:54
flodinei got a 24 inch and a new card06:54
bob2which is crap, but it's a known issue06:54
bob2and will be fixed06:54
bob2and there's no point saying silly things like " i guess it not ready"06:54
caonexis the server backup?06:57
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caonexus ubuntu server?06:57
flodineif its ready why dont it see my card size06:58
hondjelooks like it06:58
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caonexhondje, you talking to me?06:58
hondjecaonex: yes, sorry06:58
caonexhondje, ok i see, thanks06:58
flodinecan someone help is there anyone running 1900x120006:59
DaveyAmaranth: Smeg (latest) does not work for me :/06:59
bob2flodine: stop being so obnoxious06:59
bob2flodine: I'm sorry it doesn't autoconfigure on your particular setup06:59
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bob2go for it07:00
hondjeExplaining it takes 2 hrs07:00
hondje'kernel headers' and refresh rates, yeesh07:00
nootropeflodine: i'm running 1900x1200 on a 4 year-old no-name laptop07:02
hondjeI also lack your patience, now that I think about it07:02
flodineand did auto cofig for you07:02
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flodinesomeone point me to a link thats all i want is a how to07:03
bob2hold on07:03
tsumebreezy rocks and works well! :)07:03
hondjeflodine: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7664/README.txt07:03
bob2I'm trying to find the answer for you07:03
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ukatois there a command to run scripts?07:04
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bob2what do you mean by "scripts?07:04
=== randabis wonders how much more "rockin'" breezy could possibly be at such an early development stage
ukatoi'm probably using the wrong term, because i suck, but07:05
ukatolike a program07:05
bob2flodine: run ''XORG_SYNC_RANGES=yes sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg07:05
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CarlFKukato - that is like asking "is there a command to run commands"07:05
bob2ukato: you just type the name of the program07:05
bob2ukato: if it's in your $PATH07:05
geneo93sh maybe what you want07:05
randabisukato: .sh scripts can be run with sh foo.sh; executables can be ran with ./07:05
ukatothat's what i meant, thanks07:05
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CarlFKrandabis - why not just ./foo.sh ?07:06
randabisCarlFK: the script might not be executable07:06
caonexhello how can i solve this error?:07:06
randabisyou'd have to +x it first07:06
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caonexReading package lists...07:06
caonexBuilding dependency tree...07:06
caonex0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:06
caonex1 not fully installed or removed.07:06
caonexNeed to get 0B of archives.07:06
caonexAfter unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.07:07
syndcaonex: dont flood07:07
syndcaonex: use #flood or pastebin.com07:07
caonexit was not suppose to do that07:07
caonexwhen i use /exec -o with xchat07:07
syndall good07:07
CarlFKrandabis - got it - thanks07:07
caonexit puts it slowly07:07
caonexsynd, nope that is not all07:07
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caonexsynd, #flood then?07:07
syndcaonex: its easier to do pastebin.com07:08
tsumerandabis: I'm a BSDer, breezy is rockin ;)07:08
caonexpastebin it is07:08
randabistsume: in what way?07:08
tsumerandabis: Us BSDers know how to fix any problems we run into ;)07:08
tsumerandabis: updated software ;)07:08
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tsumerandabis: which means.. less running in to bugs with updated software07:08
tsumexmms or mplayer doesn't work, but oh well07:09
JohnnyQuesti need some help installing LAME07:09
tsumeI'm a mpg123 guy :)07:09
randabisusing BSD does not necessarily mean one automatically can fix any problem07:09
tsumerandabis: you haven't used BSD any then :)_07:09
tsumerandabis: We BSDers run in to software problems, so we must fix it outselves07:09
randabisActually I have run both netBSD and freeBSD off and on07:09
caonexsynd, i posted it07:09
tsumerandabis: BSDers are more capable of figuring out problems than other people just because of experience.07:10
syndcaonex: then you post the URL here07:10
caonexit is above07:10
caonexsynd i just did07:10
syndand ask as such: "ive got a problem with such and such and here is the pastebin"07:10
JohnnyQuestim gettting the error permission denied when trying to install LAME07:10
randabiscapability and experience != solve any problem.07:10
tsumerandabis: yes it does07:10
caonexsynd, oh ok sorry i just thought you knew already, next time.07:10
randabisI does increase the likelyhood of solving a problem however07:10
bob2JohnnyQuest: you need to give us the whole error, in the #flood channel07:10
bob2JohnnyQuest: also, there's no need to compile it07:11
tsumerandabis: heck, everyone was piss and moaning about breezy's X being broken when it was just a simple mkfontdir command ;)07:11
tsumerandabis: experienced BSDers can fix any unix related problem ;)07:11
syndis breezy ok to use, honestly?07:11
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Kamping_Kaisersynd. if you like problems, yes07:11
syndim a bit discouraged to use it.07:11
tsumesynd: only if you know how to fix bugs/problems07:11
syndKamping_Kaiser: no sir07:12
pepsi_firefox is broken for me in breezy07:12
tsumeOf course, my installation works fine.07:12
tsumepepsi: mine works ;)07:12
pepsi_it wnats to install firefox and remove mozilla-firefox07:12
syndit peeves me when people install breezy and come here for problems fixes07:12
CarlFKis there an rsync for breezy?07:12
pepsi_but it pukes when trying to remove mozilla-firefox07:12
JohnnyQuestany ideas on that probelm?07:13
JohnnyQuestim a linux noob..07:13
randabistsume: heh, fun. I'm just not inclined to play with Breezy at this point. I don't doubt your experience or skill. I'm just saying there is a possibility that you or someone COULD run into a problem that isn't easily solved or unsolvable07:13
tsumebreezy is great for the knowlegable people07:13
syndgod VNC is great07:13
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tsumerandabis: all problems are solvable ;)07:14
randabisIt may be very unlikely for that scenario to play itself out, but I'm just saying it is a possible scenario07:14
JohnnyQuestanyone read my error in the flood channel?07:14
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randabistsume: to an extent, but that does not mean one will be able to always find the solution07:15
tsumerandabis: Never have run in that problem yet.07:15
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zerokillsis Ubuntu 64-bit?07:16
randabistsume: and you may never run into that situation. I'm just saying it is possible07:16
tsumezerokills: the question is... is there a 64-bit build of Linux which Ubuntu is distributing?07:16
hondjeBSDers are excellent at fixing bugs07:17
hondjeAfter all, they've kept a dying OS alive for years07:17
darius___so much BSD smack talk07:17
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zerokillstsume- all i know is i need a 32-bit distro to get this game to work07:17
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JohnnyQuestall i want is to learn how to intsall simple things....07:18
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hondjeJohnnyQuest: have you tried using synaptic?07:18
zerokillsjohnnyquest: what are you trying to install?07:18
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you must learn about aptitude. apt-get, apt-cache, etc.07:18
caonexsynd, any ideas?07:19
JohnnyQuestim trying to install LAME07:19
JohnnyQuesti compiled it07:19
JohnnyQuesti did make07:19
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JohnnyQuestand then make install didnt work07:19
zerokillssudo apt-get install lame07:19
tsumehondje: actually, NetBSD is great. The reason NASA used NetBSD instead of linux is for the stability and security.07:19
caonexDo you want to continue [Y/n] ?07:19
hondjetsume: You know better than to feed the troll! :)07:19
tsumehondje: there are a few dumb terms running linux in the international space station(ISS), but thats the extent of linux07:19
tsumehondje: yes it do, but I like backing up my statements with facts.07:20
hussamdoes the firefox in backports-staging have the latest security fix regarding the frames?07:20
tsumethe ISS runs NetBSD :)07:20
randabisNetBSD will also run on just about any old computer out there07:20
hondjeYou want facts? How about netcraft confirming it? :)07:20
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tsumerandabis: any computer, new and old.07:20
tsumerandabis: I can see you are not experienced and (forgive me for saying) speaking out of your ass.07:21
JohnnyQuestunable to lock the administration directory07:21
randabistsume: yes, but in the context of nasa, their hardware tends to be archaic07:21
JohnnyQuesti got that erorr from that comand zero07:21
tsumeJohnnyQuest: oh, you are completely new to linux?07:21
randabisI wasn't dogging netbsd with that comment07:21
tsumerandabis: no, NASAs ISS technology is top of the line.07:21
tsumerandabis: go visit the center where they build the pieces and see for yourself.07:21
randabiswell the ISS stuff probably is07:22
randabisI was more referring to the older stuff at the space centers, but I digress07:22
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randabisI wasn't meaning to insult bsd in any way07:22
tsumerandabis: you completely missed what I said then. the ISS runs NetBSD, and a couple dumb linux terms for client controllers07:22
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darius___who cares - NASA uses of a lot of OS's for a lot of things07:23
darius___as do many companies07:23
darius___and mission critical applications07:23
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you must use superuser access. use sudo07:23
darius___I've never seen a bigger BSD troll07:23
JohnnyQuesthow do i do that?07:23
tsumedarius___: on the ground centers yes. The ISS runs NetBSD07:23
darius___and I'm a BSD fan07:23
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tsumeJohnnyQuest: sudo apt-get...07:25
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JohnnyQuestdidnt work07:25
caonexwhat is the line in sources.list to be able to install the java runtime ?07:26
Lafitte-tsume,  need to set root password first?07:26
JohnnyQuestbut sudo make install did work07:26
tsumeLafitte-: what? no07:26
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tsumeLafitte-: root is disabled07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: so, why are you compiling lame at all?07:26
pobstilhey, with sftp, how do you put a folder, and all it's contents, including other folders07:26
JohnnyQuestim installing mythtv07:26
JohnnyQuestthats teh only reason im using linux07:26
tsumeJohnnyQuest: oh hell..07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: there's no need to compile it07:26
tsumeoh fuxk..07:26
tsumeJohnnyQuest: thanks07:26
Lafitte-tsume,  oh   i set password for mine  and su....i didnt know that hehe07:26
bob2JohnnyQuest: just install the lame package07:27
tsumeI fucking forgot about a date I had with a mythtv setup07:27
tsumedamn :)07:27
bob2pobstil: probably easier to just use rsync07:27
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JohnnyQuestwell i got it compiled and installed now i think..07:27
JohnnyQuesti dont know how to check07:27
JohnnyQuestbut i did make install and go no errors07:27
pobstilI'm not asking how to do it another way, I'm asking how to do it this way...07:27
bob2pobstil: why?07:28
Lafitte-what is mythtv ?07:28
pobstilI know you can do put /home/pobstil/*  but that wont do the folders07:28
JohnnyQuestits a program to use for a hometheatre system07:28
FR500not ubuntu related, but i gotta tell this to someone, i just drove a new M5, and after killing an F360 Spider i gotta say that thing rocks!!!!07:28
FR500you cant imagine my grin now07:28
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psychonate|awayHow do I find the BusID for my video card?07:28
Lafitte-MythTV is a homebrew PVR project07:28
JohnnyQuestand im tryin to install that07:29
tsumeJohnnyQuest: you might want to use the Knoppix MythTV install07:29
JohnnyQuesti used that07:29
JohnnyQuesti didnt like it07:29
tsumeJohnnyQuest: its hell to set up07:29
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naliothhowdy y'all07:29
JohnnyQuestwell, knoppix was hell to change settings07:29
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JohnnyQuestubuntu is a lil easier to use for me..07:30
tsumeJohnnyQuest: wait until you set up mythtv from scratch, its not already setup07:30
muttDCquestion: how can i "desinstall" a fglx driver i already installed?07:30
Lafitte-guys    mythtv in in apt-get07:30
OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:30
bob2muttDC: remove the packages you installed07:31
tsumeLafitte-: thats the older myth07:31
randabisdepends on how you installed the fglx driver I suppose07:31
tsumeI recommend using mythtv from the mythtv cvs07:31
bob2muttDC: if you installed it from source, read the instrucions07:31
bob2but it may not be posssible\07:31
tsumemore features07:31
muttDCok, thanks07:31
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Lafitte-tsume,  wont work ??07:31
JohnnyQuestim trying the cvs myth07:32
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OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:32
tsumeLafitte-: CVS version of mythtv has more features07:32
JohnnyQuestim actually gonna head to bed07:32
JohnnyQuestits late07:32
funkywhat is the comress format that is compressed ubuntu's initrd ?07:32
xbaxehello all....07:32
tsumeLafitte-: and less bugs07:32
JohnnyQuestbut, thanx for the help07:32
Lafitte-tsume,  oic07:32
funkyi can uncompress it07:32
Lafitte-nice software to have07:32
funkynormally is gzipped07:32
tsumeLafitte-: I couldn't call mythtv releases stable..07:32
bob2funky: it's just a cramfs image07:33
bob2funky: what are you planning to do?07:33
Lafitte-tsume,  aww07:33
JovenComunistawhy i can't install the vlc ???07:33
funkybob2: i would like to modify the apm load at booting time07:33
funkyi dont want it tries to load apm.ko07:33
OpppzMy ps2 mouse don't work.. I change xorg.conf.. and reboot.. but.. nothing! What can I do?07:34
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funkybob2: thanks i have mounted the initrd07:34
Lafitte-Opppz, what kind of mouse is it ??07:35
OpppzI change the "/dev/input/mice"  to " /dev/psaux" and nothing07:35
Opppzps2 mouse... very old!! hehehe07:35
bob2funky: you don't need to fiddle the initrd to do that07:35
Lafitte-Opppz, i would leave it alone whatever it defaults too07:35
jtorgerswhy are there so many md5 mismatches today?07:35
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funkybob2: then, how can i get that ?07:36
bob2funky: to make it not load apm?07:36
funkybob2: yes07:36
naliothOpppz: if someone knows the ansnwer to your question, they will answer07:36
funkyIm using acpi07:36
bob2funky: er, acpi is loaded by default07:36
cleewhy does breezy turn on HashKnownHosts by default?07:36
funkyi know, but it tries to load apm.ko too07:36
bob2it's cleetastic07:36
clee(hi, bob2)07:37
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clee(I'm bitching about ssh_config, btw)07:37
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yccheokanyone had tried the g++4.0? seems very very buggy07:38
bob2how so?07:38
bob2funky: "it" = hotplug?07:38
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hondjeclee: Why don't you like that?07:40
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Lafitte-is that how you do it   /ignore Opppz!*.*     ??07:40
bleckhello, does anyone know how to change the default port of the vnc remote desktop server?07:40
funkybob2: no, i have tried to blacklisted it, but it still tries to load07:40
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bob2funky: what problem does it trying to load cause?07:41
bob2it'll just be refused07:41
funkystetic problem :P07:41
naliothhondje: you still awake?07:41
funkysorry for my english07:41
funkystetic ? you know ?07:41
funkymaybe i have invented that word07:41
hondjenalioth: yep07:41
funkyapparence problem, i dont like see crap lines at booting time07:42
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bob2stetic isn't a word07:44
funkyesttico = aesthetic07:44
cleehondje: because I have a really sweet zsh completion that uses my ~/.ssh/config07:44
tsumezsh > *07:44
cleehondje: automatically provides hosts based on the IPs and the hostnames from ~/.ssh/config and ~/.ssh/known_hosts07:44
tsumethe shell of gods07:44
hondjeclee: ah :)07:45
randabisdamn this is weird07:46
randabisI'm getting md5sum mismatches all over the place in apt07:47
FR500what are good sites for linux games?07:47
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nomasteryodaFR500, sites?... look in synaptic07:48
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FR500nomasteryoda, lol, there aren't big big games there07:48
nomasteryodaFR500, bzflag07:48
syndFR500: usually people pay for "big big games"07:49
FR500i meant etf and alike07:49
nomasteryodaalso Enemy Territory07:49
nomasteryodaboth free07:49
FR500synd, http://www.happypenguin.org/07:49
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nomasteryodacourse you need a good video card07:49
FR500i pay too07:49
nomasteryodaDoom3 ...07:49
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nomasteryodaruns sweet on a 256mb nvidia07:49
errrdoes anyone know the package name which provides the automake and autotools and what not needed to build packages from source. I thought it was called build tools, or build utils but I dont see either one, and I hate to have to pick each package 1 by 1...07:49
naliotherrr: build-essential07:50
errrahh thats the one thanks :)07:50
naliothhave fun compiling (don't forget the checkinstall <for last resorts>)07:50
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errrthanks :)07:51
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bigbill52adoes anyone know why some of my packages are not downloading07:51
bob2errr: that doesn't install automake or anything, tho07:51
bob2since you don't need them to compile source07:51
bill__just did the whole update package just fine07:51
bigbill52ausing the sources.list from the unofficial guide07:51
bill__on a new install07:51
bob2I wish the unofficial guide wouldn't encourage people to do that07:52
bill__first time w/ ubuntu :-)07:52
thechitowncubsi've been wondering, is it easier to develop for Linux or Windows?07:52
syndanyone know of any good RPG games for linux?07:52
bob2synd: falcons eye?07:52
FR500Stendhal looks gun07:52
bob2thechitowncubs: entirely subjective07:52
bob2lots of people find developing windows to be shockingly painful07:53
bob2(e.g. me ;)07:53
bill__thers a site that tells the compatible games07:53
errrbob2: me too!!07:53
syndbob2: whats the sys requirments for that?07:53
randabisus.archive.ubuntu.com has some md5sum mismatches going on...using archive.ubuntu.com fixed my problem07:53
nalioththechitowncubs: its cheaper to dev for linux07:53
bill__cant remember  though07:53
FR500bill__, no game is compatible without cedega or wine07:53
bob2synd: I don't know07:53
bigbill52ait was working till this afternoon...thanks07:53
thechitowncubsnalioth: i think everything is cheaper on nix :)07:53
bill__im a nooc, can you tell07:54
nomasteryodaand cedega is pretty good07:54
thechitowncubsI wonder why google hasn't developed software for linux then07:54
nomasteryodaalso crossover office07:54
nalioththechitowncubs: come on, don't you love the $2500 msrp for the full Visual Crap STupidio from M$?07:54
nomasteryodaesp for shockwave web games07:54
cleebtw, if anybody wants the zsh line that totally rules (when you turn off HashKnownHosts):07:54
zerokillsim having problems with Cedega07:54
cleezstyle -e ':completion::*:hosts' hosts 'reply=($(sed -e "/^#/d" -e "s/ .*\$//" -e "s/,/ /g" /etc/ssh_known_hosts(N) ~/.ssh/known_hosts(N) 2>/dev/null | xargs) $(grep \^Host ~/.ssh/config(N) | cut -f2 -d\  2>/dev/null | xargs))'07:54
FR500i think some game companies will start using wine or cedega soon to provide compatibilty07:54
thechitowncubsthey need to lead the industry into linux07:54
thechitowncubsya nalioth, thats insane07:54
bob2thechitowncubs: because there's little need to07:54
bill__yes they will07:55
thechitowncubsthere won't be soon07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: linux orbwsers have the most important bits of the google toolbar by default07:55
FR500thechitowncubs, why not?07:55
bill__almost all my friend are on linux now07:55
thechitowncubsbecause linux is getting popular07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: there are other gmail applets on linux07:55
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thechitowncubsbob2: im talking about software such as Hello07:55
bob2thechitowncubs: which is?07:55
thechitowncubsor picasa (even f-spot is on the way)07:55
thechitowncubsits a photo sharing application07:55
FR500good game for linux: http://www.nexuiz.com/07:56
FR500it rocks07:56
bill__whats a good mp3 player for ubuntu ??07:56
syndbill__: xmms07:56
errrfspot is sweet, isnt it in mono?07:56
FR500bill__, i like beep better07:56
thechitowncubsya, it is07:56
errrmono is cross platform07:56
FR500bill__, it's same as xmms but i find it more user friendly07:57
bill__how bout i try em both07:57
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errrthe demos of mono I have seen they take code straight from windows to linux changing nothing07:57
naliothbill__: thats the wonderful thing about linux, it's all free07:57
bill__yes i need user friendly07:57
FR500bill__, beep is a fork or xmms07:57
funkyerrr: you can launch monodevelop from ubuntu rep. correctly ?07:57
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naliothbill__: so while you're trying "beep media player" and xmms, try rhythmbox and amarok, too07:57
naliothbill__: not to forget mpg12307:58
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thoreauputicbill__: they are quite similar - beep-media-player looks better, xmms has more available plugins07:58
errrfunky: Im not sure to be honest. I have only seen a couple demos at LUG meetings and I am always late to them...07:58
bill__anything 4 making digital tunes with ?07:58
bill__like fruity loops07:58
bob2bill__: sweep, terminatorx, etc07:58
geneo93help W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libggi/libggi2_2.0.5-1ubuntu1_i386.deb07:58
geneo93  MD5Sum mismatch07:58
funkyerrr: ok07:58
thoreauputicbill__: for midi etc,, rosegarden407:58
bill__thats all i do wthis pc07:59
errrfunky: but the 2 demos I saw the guy doing them was using horay07:59
bill__tunes n gaming07:59
thoreauputicbill__: audacity is also a nice audio editor07:59
FR500btw, what is a "fork"07:59
Madpilotevening, all.07:59
nomasteryodaand ampache is a nice music server =)07:59
bill__damn, thanks for the input08:00
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errrgnump3d is also nice for streaming your music collection I love it on my LAN08:00
thoreauputicbill__: if you like shoutcast, check streamtuner and streamripper08:00
Madpilotfor just playing music, give Muine a shot - it's in the repos for Ubuntu as well...08:00
bill__cant find a xp chat that people are so nice on08:00
bigbill52athat did fix it..i appreciate the help08:00
naliothFR500: a fork is when someon takes the source code, runs away in another direction then the original code writer(s)08:00
nomasteryodayea, gnump3d is simple to setup, but ampache is awesome! ... #ampache08:00
bill__mr gates can go fdisk himself08:01
naliothFR500: sorta like the theory of evolution08:01
thoreauputicbill__: that's the Ubuntu philosophy :)08:01
nomasteryodabill__, could not have said it better myself08:01
Madpilotthoreauputic: although I think most ppl express it a bit more... politely... most of the time, anyway...08:01
FR500nalioth, ok08:01
thechitowncubslol bill08:01
geneo93no comment08:01
bill__gone just about as far as i can go w/ ms08:01
foxinesscan i'm create folder with name like this ????? ????08:02
thoreauputicMadpilot: I meant the niceness, not the Bill * comment :)08:02
Madpilotthoreauputic: oh, sure... :p08:02
naliothbob2, thoreauputic y'all know any 0-conf apps (like Apple Rendevous)?08:02
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bill__a little slipknot, too much coffe, i'm good08:03
thoreauputicMadpilot: I'm sure Mr gates is a member of the human community... oh, wait, did I say that *g* ?08:03
bigbill52athe ati driver that is in restricted is for xfree and not xorg08:03
bill__bite your tounge08:03
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bill__so far im really impressed w/ this OS08:04
bigbill52arestricted modules...if anyone needs help on installing the ati driver just pm08:04
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syndbill__: thats why its #1 on distrowatch.com : )08:04
bill__need to get the books though08:04
bill__i hear that08:05
bill__tried suse08:05
naliothanyone know of any zero-configuration tools for linux (like Apple's Rendevous)08:05
bill__major headache08:05
foxinessi have backup.tgz and it content "/media/????? ????/backupishere" and if i do tar xvpfz backup.tgz , will it give me error and i can not create it by hand from GUI is there away around this?08:05
randabissuse = stupid useless system express08:06
bill__been spoiled w point n clickers08:06
foxinessrandabis, :)08:06
randabisj/k suse isn't horrible...other than yast08:06
bill__gotta get back to basics08:06
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Madpilotcan someone remind me how to check the md5sum on a download? want to burn Hoary ISOs, but need to check the d/l first08:07
bill__that damn kmail wont work at all08:07
foxinessmd5sum file08:07
paul_hey, is anyone getting md5sum file errors?08:07
syndpaul_: i have been08:07
randabispaul_: I was08:07
foxinessand than it will give you some out put08:07
nomasteryodabill__, try running from terminal08:07
naliothbill__: try evolution or sylpheed08:07
syndpaul_: with marrilat or whatever08:07
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randabisI changed sources.list though and fixed it08:08
bill__using ev. now08:08
bill__like a charm :-)08:08
randabisI changed us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com08:08
paul_alright, im gonna try that now08:08
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Madpilotfoxiness: thnx, Terminal seems to be chugging thru that now08:08
randabismarillat is messed up too, don't have a fix for that yet08:08
bigfoot1hello, I'm new to linux/ubuntu. Sometimes my computer runs slow, and I believe it's caused by a high IOwait level, as seen in the systems monitor applet. Can anyone tell me what influences high IOwait? And can something be done about it? Thank you.08:08
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thechitowncubsWhat do you guys recommend to learn how to program? Where should i start learning?08:09
yonilanyone here got amule running ? i dont seem to be able to get the server list ..08:09
foxinessMadpilot, np08:10
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: bash :)08:10
syndyonil: you should try gtk-gnutella08:10
nemikwhere do usb ports appear? in /dev/...?08:10
Madpilotthechitowncubs: start with HTML & CSS? it's not "really" programming, but it'll get you thinking in the right way, mostly.08:10
spunoutthechitown, program in what?08:10
thechitowncubsI have pretty basic knowledge of html and css08:10
yonilsynd, why ? is it the same protocol as *mule ?08:10
spunoutthechitown, php is good08:10
thechitowncubsi don't really want to develop for web applications08:10
syndyonil: amule is p2p, correct?08:11
thechitowncubshow did YOU people learn to program?08:11
spunoutthechitown, get your self some ebooks from the usenet08:11
paul_synd: thanks a lot!08:11
paul_it works now08:11
yonilsynd, yeah, but i need amule servers, not other servers ..08:11
nemikchitown, i am also in chitown, started with PHP and mySQL. read tutorials and hung out in #php on quakenet a lot08:11
Madpilotthechitowncubs: I haven't, yet :) aside from HTML/CSS and "Hello World" in PHP...08:12
bill__noob w/ a capital N, thats me08:12
syndyonil: oh i see.08:12
spunoutoregon state has an ed2go program, with pretty decent stuff...online classes08:12
Madpilotany book by OReilly or Peachpit, that's my default starting point!08:12
syndpaul_: howd i help you ?08:12
syndpaul_: either way, ill take the thanks : )08:12
thechitowncubsi know OF all the programming languages, but i want to know where to start specifically, what do you guys recommend08:12
thoreauputicbill__: the sooner you stop labelling yourself "noob". the sooner you will cease to be one08:12
nemikchitown, i recommend PHP08:13
paul_sorry, synd. I was thanking the wrong person :(  thanks Randabis!08:13
thechitowncubsi don't really want to develop for web applications08:13
syndpaul_: no prob08:13
spunoutwell, what do you want to develop for?08:13
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nemikahh then...java?08:13
bill__k, im a work in progress08:14
thoreauputicbill__: much better ! :)08:14
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randabisnp paul_08:14
thechitowncubsSimple useful applications08:14
thechitowncubsI just want to learn the basics08:15
thechitowncubsas of now08:15
bill__this is litarrly my firs time actually using linux !!08:15
nemikright now for me, web dev is more useful for me than any non-web apps08:15
nomasteryodabill__, congrats then dude08:15
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: I think bash scripts are a good place to start personally: have a look at the Xdialog and Zenity GUI kits08:16
nemiksimply because if its on the net,i can use and access my data anywhere08:16
nemikperl is also a great beginner language08:16
bill__dont know why i waited so log08:16
ardob11what software would you recommend for web authoring on linux, I used Dreamweaver on Windows08:16
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nemiknvu, right?08:16
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thoreauputicardob11: start with nvu or mozilla-composer08:17
ardob11ok then08:17
MattAndreasSo anyone found an Ardour package for ubuntu?  That, failing, some other packages studio software?08:17
MattAndreaspackaged, even  :)08:17
ardob11how is it compared to dreamweaver, any idea?08:17
turfcan any one direct me to how i can play avi from my totem, i can only hear the sound but not the image. i already visited http://powerpc.ubuntuguide.org/ and no lack08:17
spunoutquanta plus?08:17
nemikbut authors are for pussies. nano is all you need! :D08:17
spunoutArdour is in backports or marillat or something...08:18
nemikor emacs if you wanna be fancy ;)08:18
naliothnemik: hear! hear!08:18
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spunoutim a vi guy08:18
Kamping_Kaiserwhat about screem08:18
MattAndreasnot backports...08:18
naliothturf: you are on a PPC?08:18
MattAndreasI'll try marillat08:18
bill__K  my new UBUNTU friends, good night chat at'cha later08:18
turfnaderman: yap08:18
nemiksee ya bill__ and enjoy this!08:19
bill__ty 4 the help08:19
spunoutmaybe rarewares, for ardour08:19
thoreauputic apt-cache policy ardour-gtk 500 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages08:19
spunoutI just apt-getted ardour-gtk, but had some issues...08:19
thoreauputicit's in universe08:19
naliothturf: i recommend you find some reliable deb-src archives08:19
paul_anyone able to guide me through installing a printer (windows network) on my machine? :)08:19
turfnalioth,: ibook clam shell type to be ecact08:19
MattAndreasspunout: what issues?08:19
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naliothturf may a pm you?08:19
paul_i attempted to install, but it apparently didnt work08:20
turfnalioth: sure08:20
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spunoutI use the sources.list from the unofficial ubuntu guide, and it does me right08:20
jeldhi all08:21
jeldare there any problems with the repositories at the moment?08:21
syndspunout: i do too08:21
spunoutyes it htink there are08:21
thoreauputicjeld: it's in the /topic08:21
spunoutor were08:21
MattAndreasspun: what issues did you have with ardour?08:22
jeldthoreauputic, oh, that sucks08:22
naliothsynd: you big liar, you are a pure src compiler!08:22
spunoutMattAndrea: imlib didn't install right, said something about the md5sums not adding up08:22
MattAndreasdid it run?08:22
spunoutandd gtk-imlib08:22
nemikspunout: change the sources.list08:23
spunoutnemik, to what?08:23
nemikwell its probably to us.archives or ca.archives which are down (check topic)08:23
syndnalioth: thats right, i forgot :>08:23
nemikso just do http://archives....08:23
MattAndreasI'm hoping to make my ubuntu box my jukebox and audio recording station08:23
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spunoutMattAndrea, so you use Amarok for the Jukebox?08:24
MattAndreasI intend to08:24
bigbill52ajust delete us on each entry....08:24
MattAndreasjust getting going with this system08:24
syndbob2, thoreauputic: do you all know of any zero-conf. networking apps such as Apple's rendezvous/bonjour08:24
bob2synd: rendezvous more or less works on linux08:25
spunoutamarok works great, I love the way it crossfades automatically and suggests songs for playing based on the ones you are playing and have played08:25
nemiki know menage a trois ;)08:25
naliothsynd: i think they've gone to bed, i asked em whallago08:25
bob2you need to be more specific about what you want it to do, tho08:25
MattAndreasspun: cool.  Now I just want to get the recording part decided08:25
naliothbob2 ya didnt see it when I asked whallago?08:25
MattAndreasif ardour won't work, I need something else08:25
bob2I did indeed08:25
MattAndreasor I need to use it on a different distrib08:25
syndbob2: im trying to tap into iTunes Library streaming via Rendezvous on my Ubuntu box08:25
bob2when I looked just now08:25
randabisamarok rocks08:26
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spunoutI bet it may have been a repository thing... i will ssh over there and check it out, as soon as java's done installing (did an apt-get install azureus and it just pulled java down too, slick!)08:26
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syndbob2: iTunes picks up my Limewire playlist sharing (from Ubuntu) and it does fine. I'd just like to do the reverse08:26
MattAndreasI need a better nickname08:26
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Sozeowned by another08:27
syndSoze: add kaiser to the beginning08:27
Sozecould do that08:27
chatingFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel_4.2.1.1-1ubuntu1_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch08:27
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chatinghow to fix it ?08:27
KSozeK makes it easier to type08:27
syndnow lowercase it : )08:27
chatingwhats repository others us or ca ?08:27
KSozeand I believe McQuarrie used the 'Keyser' spelling08:27
bob2chating: use archive.ubuntu.com then08:27
KSozesynd: for easier typing still?08:28
roberti've aliased my via_rhine ethernet card for dhcp-client in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases because it wasn't autodetected on the install, so far when i've ran ifup eth0, it brings up the eth0 and eth0:0, eth0:0 manages to grab an IP but I still can't do anything. any ideas? also; i've got /etc/network/interfaces setup with 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'08:28
syndKSoze: sure08:28
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kaiserroll/nick kaiserroll08:28
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kaiserrolli need sleep08:28
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syndi need female08:28
naliothalso need instructions in using irssi08:29
ksozeI need sleep with female08:29
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bob2come on folks08:29
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bob2nalioth: it's the same as every other curses irc client08:29
hondjeI'm on freenode, I'm going to brag. :)08:29
naliothksoze: those two items are mutually exclusive08:29
syndbob2: any ideas?08:29
ksozebut more, I need a good audio recoding program08:29
bigbill52ai just need sleep...lol08:29
bob2synd: no, sorry, I've never used itunes08:29
ksozenalioth: sometimes, yes indeed08:29
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naliothbob2: until last week, i've never used a cursed irc client08:29
xbaxehello all08:29
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nomasteryodaksoze, audacity?08:30
xbaxei just started using ubuntu08:30
ksozehaven't tried it08:30
nomasteryodaits pretty sweet08:30
xbaxen ive got a problem , what is the default root passwd?08:30
syndxbaxe: run into a problem?08:30
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syndxbaxe: there isnt one08:30
spunoutlooks like i am using us.archive.ubuntu.com and it is working??08:30
paul_where can I find info on installing network printers (specifically SMB)08:30
ksozeIs there a good place to find a fairly canonical listing of what sound programs exist as packages for ubuntu?08:30
bob2xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:30
syndxbaxe: sudo takes care of that08:30
bob2xbaxe: it's in the faq, and the installer explained it at the end of the install08:31
bob2ksoze: no08:31
xbaxesynd: but dont you need a password?08:31
spunoutksoze, audacity seems like the goods08:31
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ksozeand where is that to be found?08:31
syndxbaxe: you need your password08:31
chatingbob2,  thanks08:31
naliothbob2 is there a webpage/project we could look at re the 0-conf networking?08:31
bob2nalioth: don't know of one08:31
xbaxesynd: i dont remember setting a root password08:31
syndxbaxe: because there isnt one08:31
Madpilotblast... it seems I have bad RAM... system keeps freezing solid, and my BIOS just reported "System Memory Failure" when I tried to reboot just now... :(08:31
bigbill52asometimes ubuntu installs asking for root password...08:31
xbaxesynd: only my own08:32
bigbill52ain expert mode08:32
bob2we're still waiting for someone to make a proper Free noconfig library08:32
syndxbaxe: read the wiki that bob2 gave you08:32
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ksozeI had a strange thing happen.  the add/remove programs util asked for a password, and the root password didn't work, but my user password did08:32
bob2ksoze: 16:30:55           bob2 | xbaxe: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo08:32
bigbill52aand then it leaves your name out of the sudoers list08:32
xbaxeok thanks08:32
bob2xbaxe: the installer explained that to you, and it's in the faq08:32
nate_having some trouble with vnc... i can connect, but all i get is an empty X screen08:32
naliothksoze: you silly user, YOUR pwd is the root pwd08:33
ksozeit is?08:33
syndnate_: the vncserver is running on the other box, right?08:33
ksozeso what is the root pwd for, then?08:33
nate_hence the connection08:33
bigbill52abut i like having a root password...since if the user window crashes you can log on as root and add another user08:33
spunoutapt-cache search sound | less08:33
ksozeI mean, the once with the root account08:33
ksozethe one, rather08:33
nate_last time i installed vncserver, i was able to just connect without a problem08:33
bob2nalioth: er, no08:33
bob2nalioth: there's an important difference there08:33
bob2ksoze: there is no root password08:34
bigbill52a(which has happened...)08:34
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nomasteryoda any idea which is best for USB HD? ... Reiser or ext3?08:34
syndnate_: i had a similar problem when trying to connect to one of my ubuntu boxes from my OS X machien08:34
bob2bigbill52a: er, "user window"?08:34
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ksozebob2: is that a good thing?08:35
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bob2ksoze: yes08:35
bigbill52amy gnome totally crashed...couldnt log in ...had to use root08:35
randabisbigbill52a: if something like that happened, you could probably just login to another tty08:35
bob2bigbill52a: you don't have to use root08:35
syndnate_: it'd connect, and have the same resolution in the window as if it was there, but nothing was rendered08:35
scanwinderwhen i try 2 install ubuntu on my laptop, i get the following error:  RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 008:35
scanwinderany ideas how 2 fix it?08:35
bob2scanwinder: that's not an error08:35
xbaxesynd : so , my passwd is the root passwd?08:35
ksozeI read the article you pointed to, but I'm not sure why root had to be nuked.  I like the use of sudo, but can't it be handy sometimes to have good ol' root?08:35
syndnate_: well, i restarted the vncserver and restarted chicken of the VNC on OS X and it worked.08:35
bob2ksoze: it didn't have to be nuked, it was done for simplicity08:35
spunoutksoze, then you just sudo su08:36
bob2ksoze: I don't think there's any situation where it's neccessary to have a root account08:36
syndxbaxe: technically no08:36
naliothksoze: i've been using linux over 5 years, and have yet to find an instance here that i needed a "root" account08:36
ksozebob2: can it be brought back by editing the pwd file?08:36
bigbill52ayeah...it is for me..and using expert mode..was able to establish root pasword...08:36
hondjebob2: ethereal08:36
xbaxebob2 , i like root08:36
randabisroot wasn't nuked completely...he's still there and can be enabled08:36
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syndws010: wtf08:36
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bob2ksoze: if you really want to...08:36
xbaxesynd : i prefer root , i usually su only when i wnna pass shutdowns08:36
bob2hondje: how does that not work with sudo?08:36
syndxbaxe: theres no reason08:36
ksozebob2: I likely may not, but just asking08:36
spunoutthe only reason i wanted root was for webmin, but then I found out how to edit the password for webmin and it didnt matter08:36
bob2xbaxe: good for you, you can enable it if you really want, but be aware some things might break08:36
hondjebob2: something about kernel stuff08:37
hondjebob2: You can't use all the features w/out root, like capturing08:37
randabisI see no need for su or direct root access if you have sudo08:37
naliothsynd: if you dont speak kghskljg, then he wasnt talking to you08:37
ksozethings might break with an enabled root?08:37
randabisone can always just sudo -s if they want a root prompt08:37
syndnalioth: say what?08:37
nalioth01:34 < synd> ws010: wtf08:38
nate_synd: strangely enough, that worked08:38
nate_thx :)08:38
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syndnalioth: hah.08:38
syndnate_: : )08:38
ksozeso is audacity nicely packaged for easy install?08:38
randabisksoze: yep08:38
bob2ksoze: http://packages.ubuntu.com08:39
syndksoze: as most things are08:39
ksozewell cool08:39
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el_zor0anyone here successfuly built xdoom from source?08:40
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naliothel_zor0: is that a doom clone?08:40
el_zor0its a port, based on origanal id code08:41
ksozesynd: as I see now.  ardour and audacity are both there08:41
naliothel_zor0: where is the source?08:41
el_zor0I'm trying to build psdoom, its a sys admin tool where the game creates a monster for every process and you run arround shooting your processes08:41
el_zor0wounded = reniced08:41
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el_zor0killed = kill -908:41
xbaxeim getting thunderbird to install08:42
el_zor0anyway, the only binary package of psdoom I can find is for OSX, the irony is sickening08:42
xbaxewish we could have a cool looking CML tool like emerge for gentoo08:42
naliothel_zor0: so where is the source for those fun box killing games?08:42
ksozehrm...this is an interesting learning experience08:42
bob2xbaxe: "cml"?08:42
el_zor0and xdoom won't build because it says I theres a problem with a pointer in the code08:42
naliothxbaxe: port it08:42
ksozeI've worked with tarballs before, but not these packages08:42
el_zor0nalioth: what? box killing games?08:42
bob2el_zor0: lxdoom is in ubuntu...08:43
xbaxebob2 : CoMmand Line08:43
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naliothel_zor0: the doom games you are on abou08:43
xbaxenalioth : wish i was good enough to ......08:43
ksozeso I downloaded the package, and FileRoller opened it08:43
naliothxbaxe: commonly abbreviated CLI08:43
ksozeshould I have just dropped it on the desktop instead08:43
xbaxenalioth : my bad then sorry08:43
ksozeand used add/remove programs to install it?08:43
nate_hmmm... still not working quite right08:43
naliothxbaxe: not at all08:44
bob2ksoze: er08:44
bob2ksoze: why are you downloading packages at all?08:44
el_zor0nalioth: abou?08:44
thoreauputicksoze: none of the above for .debs08:44
naliothxbaxe: we all make up tlas and flas, the trick is to get everyone to use them08:44
ksozebob2: as opposed to what?08:44
naliothel_zor0: n/m i'm googling it. it sounds interesting08:44
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bob2ksoze: as opposed to letting apt do it08:44
thoreauputicksoze: use synaptic or apt08:44
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el_zor0it looks awesome, but can't make it work08:44
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el_zor0the catch is aparently the monsters can get friendly fire on eachother and take down your system08:45
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el_zor0I've got a journaling fs, I'm game to try it08:45
xbaxenalioth : true08:45
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syndto waste lots of time08:45
xbaxesynd : try www.runescape.com08:45
nate_synd: planeshift.it08:45
ksozehow do I find a given package with synamptic?08:45
el_zor0synd: nethack?08:45
xbaxeits java08:45
xbaxeand free08:45
ksozeI have it running but can't find what I want in the listing08:46
hondjesynd: glest is RPG? I"m not sure about game categories08:46
bob2ksoze: there's no find option?08:46
hondjeno, it's 'real time strategy'08:46
thoreauputicksoze: first I suggest you look here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:46
ksozethere's a search08:46
xbaxesynd : nethack and ADOM aint bad08:46
xbaxeADOM is best on www.gamhippo's rpg list08:46
bob2ksoze: there you go08:46
hondjenethack is great, especially w/ falcons eye08:46
naliothel_zor0: where did you get the source code for the doom games of which you speak?08:47
xbaxebut ADOM is windows only08:47
syndxbaxe, nate_, el_zor0, hondje: thx08:47
ksozebut the search turns up nothing08:47
ksozeI'll go to the URL08:47
thoreauputicksoze: you will want the Universe repository, and probably multiverse as well08:47
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xbaxehondjie :yep , it is damm good ... if i could get used to da commands08:47
el_zor0that'll link you up08:47
hondjeMadpilot: ET is fun08:47
syndsweet deal08:47
naliothel_zor0: thx08:47
hondjeMadpilot: It's not in the repos, but it's very easy to install08:47
el_zor0madpilot: you need windows :-/08:47
el_zor0madpilot: on linux though, go for doom 308:48
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hondjeDoom3, Unreal-whatever, Wolfenstein, Enemy Territory, Americas Army...08:48
ksozeand those are not in by defaultl, I assume08:48
Madpilotthanks, everyone, I'll look for those... :)08:48
spunoutGot Ardor installed...08:48
hondjehl2 runs in cedega08:48
xbaxewhere can i find windows games lookalikes for linux?08:49
el_zor0cedega is a pain in the ass though, always craps out and runs weird for me08:49
spunoutnow I need to configure JACK... probably just having issues because i running remote X08:49
Madpilotblowing sh*t up can be relaxing... try Scorched3d - it *is* in the repos, and it's cool08:49
ksozemaybe I'll try ardour myself, then08:49
hondjeYou guys know there's a gaming forum at ubuntuforums.org08:49
hondjeMadpilot: bzflag is fun08:49
Madpilothondje: I didn't actually. Will have to check it out.08:50
jakejan1991is it possible to install ubuntu from the live CD?  i doubt it, but....possible?08:50
hondjebzflag > *08:50
syndjakejan1991: i dont think so08:50
syndcorrect me if im wrong though08:50
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jakejan1991i have no idea08:51
el_zor0this is a little bit of what make gives me for xdoom08:51
el_zor0playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type08:51
el_zor0playmus.c:156: error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type08:51
el_zor0that about 50 times08:52
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ksozeok...audacity and ardour installed.  cool.08:52
naliothjakejan1991: it is possible, but way out of newbie land08:53
jakejan1991haha.  i can only imagine.08:53
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hondjeah, one woody upgraded to sarge, praise the overlords.08:54
randabisheh cool08:54
jakejan1991also, does anyone know how to access windows files from ubuntu running on a live CD?  i dont see the C: drive anywhere08:54
randabisheard there were a lot of problems for some people upgrading from woody08:55
concept10ubuntu has a horrible default font.  its just not the same Sans.  What system wide font are you guys using?08:55
ksozeaudacity not happy08:55
ksozeproblem initialting the I/O layer08:55
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hondjeconcept10: system -> preferences -> fonts should tell you what you're using08:55
ksozeit detects no playback device, even though ubuntu does just fine08:55
ksozelet's see what ardour does...08:56
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hondjerandabis: I heard that too, but this one went smooth08:56
thoreauputicksoze: esd problem with audacity08:56
concept10I know what im using (Sans) ....... i asked what you guys are using...08:56
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hondjeI'm using sans08:56
hondjewhen I'm not, I like arial08:56
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ksozeardour couldn't connect to JACK...08:57
ksozeman, I'ma  babe in the woods on this thing.08:57
ksozeahh, to learn again - 'tis fun08:57
hornsbymorning all08:57
thoreauputicksoze: audacity wants to use oss - esd is the enlightened sound daemon (so called :/ )08:57
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ksozeso I'm hosed?08:58
ksozeor I have to go get oss?08:58
randabiskill esd08:58
thoreauputicbut audacity sometimes plays nicer no08:58
thoreauputicksoze: not permanently08:59
pepsiis firefox broken for everyone in breezy or did i do something extra special to bork mine? ;D08:59
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thoreauputicksoze: try `killall esd` in a terminal, then type ` audacity ` and see what happens08:59
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randabispepsi: your problem is using breezy09:00
thoreauputicksoze: you might need ` sudo killall esd` (not sure)09:00
ksozethoreauputic: worked09:00
pepsirandabis, right.. but thats not the issue09:00
hondjedoes killall send HUP by default?09:00
pepsiwhats up with all the default "cause you're using breezy" responses?09:00
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ksozeso do I just write  acript to kill esd and then run audacity every time?09:01
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ksozeor can I permanently yank esd?09:01
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ksozeand still maintain jukebox capability?09:01
randabisI wouldn't permanently yank esd09:01
hondjeoh, SIGTERM09:01
thoreauputicksoze: hmm - you can (I have) but you need to reconfigure sound somewhat to do that09:01
randabisat least on gnome systems09:01
randabiskubuntu user here :)09:01
thoreauputicrandabis: I use dmix09:02
ksozeso is the better option just kill esd every time I want to use audacity?09:02
thoreauputicksoze: at the moment, yeah09:02
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randabisthoreauputic: nifty.09:02
thoreauputicksoze: until you get comfortable09:02
hondjeI found that by turning off sound events, esd doesn't barf as much09:02
ksozeand after that?  :)09:02
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randabisyou'll have to use the force09:02
thoreauputicksoze: then you can use a howto to reconfigure sound09:03
ksozeso what the hell is JACK that ardour is complaingin about?09:03
Madpilotksoze: you can restart ESD just by typing esd at a terminal09:03
ksozefigured that much, but thank you kindly09:03
nate_synd: so i'm trying to set up gallery... anyone have experience with it?09:03
thoreauputicksoze: ah - you are kind of jumping in at the deep end ;)09:04
syndnate_: gallery?09:04
ksozeit's my way :)09:04
goye2czI've opened Synaptic package manager and want to install the libqt3c102-mt package. I don't find it in the list though. What can I do?09:04
ksozewell, I do music, and wanted a linux box to do it on09:04
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ksozefigured the ubuntu 'it just works' philosophy was appealing09:04
nate_synd: php web photo gallery09:04
ksozeand thought I'd give it a try as my music box09:04
hondjenate_: I use MIG, works well09:04
ksozeso this is pretty much the primary use I have for this machine09:05
ksozeand as such, I'm willing to jump to get it working :)09:05
thoreauputicksoze: http://jackit.sourceforge.net/docs/faq.php09:05
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ksozethoreauputic?: thanks09:05
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thoreauputicksoze: note that jack is also available in the repos with synaptic or apt09:06
thoreauputicksoze: sound is kind of ... interesting on linux ;)09:06
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hondjeaka ugly09:07
DukGalNamuhow do i unpck a rar?09:07
KarlosIIDukGalNamu, uhh09:07
hondjeDukGalNamu: apt-get install unrar-nonfree09:07
KarlosIIunrar ??09:07
ksozethoreauputic: how encouraging.  :)09:07
Eighth_hondje: how do you make your thumbnails?09:07
goye2czHas anyone installed Skype? I'm having trouble finding the libqt3c102-mt package.09:07
hornsbyi got skype09:07
hondjeEighth: it uses image magik through a perl script09:07
bob2goye2cz: libqt3-mt09:07
thoreauputicksoze: you'll get the hang of it - you just need to do some research :)09:07
hondjeEighth: yeah, and pretty configurable09:07
Eighth_fairly simple to use?09:08
hondjevery, I can do it09:08
goye2czbob2: so I'm looking for the wrong package?09:08
hondjeeasier than setting up wordpress was09:08
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ksozedo I need the jack package, or jack-eq?09:08
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zerokillsanyone know how to disable everything using sound in Ubuntu?09:08
DukGalNamuk thanks09:08
ksozein any case, the ardour folks should make that a dependency09:08
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thoreauputicksoze: I'm inclined to agree09:09
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ksozethoreauputic: so is it jack that I need, or jack-eq?09:09
thoreauputicksoze: although there are other ways I guess (I haven't used ardour009:09
hornsbygoye2cz, yea, were looking at wrong package09:09
ksozeI suppose getting both won't kill me09:09
HappyFoolzerokills: you can easily mute the sound (right-click on the speaker icon, choose mute) -- or did you want something else09:09
dancec0mmandercan someone answer a question?09:10
thoreauputicksoze: jack to start with, or just install both09:10
hondjezerokills: I disable sound events in system -> preferences -> sound09:10
bob2goye2cz: libqt3c102-mt is correct, and it is indeed in ubuntu09:10
ksozeI'll get 'em both09:10
ksozecan't hurt anything09:10
zerokillsHappyFool: yea, something else09:10
HappyFooldancec0mmander: only if you ask it ;)09:10
thoreauputicksoze: if there are conflicts, apt will tell you anyway09:10
hondjeHappyFool: actually, you just did :)09:10
HappyFoolhondje: *aargh*09:11
ksozewel...I'll do jack first09:11
ksozehere goes09:11
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zerokillshondje: Ubuntu accesses the sound device and reserves it for use. i need to figure out how to disable that so i can use sound in Counter Strike09:11
bob2zerokills: pkill esd09:12
goye2czhornsby or bob2: I did this yesterday, and all went well. today, I'm not finding it. Under Applications/system tools/ add-remove programs, I clicked the advanced tab. I got synaptic and looked through the list. I don't see any of those.09:12
bob2goye2cz: ignore that then09:12
hornsbygoye2cz, installing debian package from skype.com works great, did you try that ?09:12
bob2goye2cz: sudo aptitude instll libqt3c102-mt09:12
bob2goye2cz: if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured09:12
thoreauputicksoze: to get jack working, you will probably need to do some reading and googling09:12
ksozeso ubuntu does indeed just work09:12
ksozebut sound apps sure as hell don't  :)09:12
zerokillsbob2: thats it?09:13
hondjesound on linux is a mess of hacks and work arounds09:13
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thoreauputicksoze: you are using rather advanced stuff with ardour (not many people get into that)09:13
bob2zerokills: I'd be surprised if anything else was using it09:13
goye2czbob2: anything is possible. I did download the .deb package and started following instructions on the ubuntu wiki page. I'll try what you just said though.09:13
bob2sound works fine if you have a decent card09:13
ksozeseems I'd be wise not to bother.  I have other system09:13
bob2ie a sb live09:13
bob2if you have anything else, jist configure dmix and be happy09:13
ksozesound has many definitions09:13
ksozebasic app sound, sure no problem09:14
thoreauputicksoze: it's worth the effort - quite rewarding09:14
ksozeinstalling a multitrak app to work seems like a pain09:14
bob2sweep is very easy to instll09:14
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ksozebob2: not heard of that one.09:14
hornsbygoye2cz,  $sudo dpkg -i  skype***.deb      -> didn't get this done ?09:14
thoreauputicksoze: both sweep and audacity are pretty easy09:15
hondjeksoze: http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep09:15
zerokillsbob2: k, i hope this works, if it doesnt i have CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE... sigh09:15
ksozeexcept audacity requires I kill esd09:15
goye2czhee hee, linux has a great sense of humor. I LIKE IT.09:15
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hondjezerokills: No you don09:15
ksozeI'm not gonna whine about it, but it is silly09:15
hondjezerokills: just ctrl-alt-f1, and kill your game09:15
bob2zerokills: er, why would you do that?09:15
zerokillshondje: the screen freezes09:15
hornsbygoye2cz, yea linux is funny :)09:15
bob2ksoze: so, setup aumix09:15
bob2er, dmix09:15
thoreauputicksoze: only because esd is a pain - getting dmix workinfg is worth trying09:15
zerokillshondje: really? ill try that this time09:15
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hondjezerokills: that's what I do09:16
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maruko`hey. is there a group( except root )that can install packages ?09:16
ksozeI may09:16
beowu1fanyone using the new dell M70 precision? any good?09:16
ksozeI just need something that works now09:16
thoreauputicbob2 actually the dmix guide on ubuntuguide.org seems OK - what would you recommend?09:16
ksozeI plan on doing some recording with a singer tomorrow :)09:16
bob2thoreauputic: I haven't seen it09:16
hondjethoreauputic: I'm glad to hear that, I actually did follow that one :)09:17
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HappyFoolmaruko`: use 'sudo'09:17
zerokillsbob2: pkill esd did the trick, thanks man09:17
ksozemeanwhile, I guess I'll yank ardour09:17
Eighth_i need some help setting up apache.. i've never worked with a web server09:17
ksozeand jack09:17
Eighth_but i think i should prolly go to bed09:17
zerokillsnow i just gotta figure out why steam isnt bringing up any servers to play on09:17
zerokillsanyone have an idea?09:18
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hornsbyEighth, what do you want to do ?09:18
thoreauputicksoze: yeah, one thing at a time, I suggest - get audacity going09:18
hondjezerokills: iptables?09:18
ksozeso in Synaptic, what's the difference between removal and complete removal?09:18
zerokillshondje: no clue09:18
thoreauputicksoze: sweep is definitely worth a look though09:18
hondjezerokills: worth a check09:18
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ksozethoreauputic: I like that appraoch, and prefer not to have software lying around that I'm not using.09:18
zerokillshondje: how do i check09:19
thoreauputicksoze: "complete" removes the vconfig files as well09:19
ksozeI'll do that09:19
hondjezerokills: sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter stop (if you run it), then sudo iptables -F. Then connect and try09:19
hornsbyEighth, http://ubuntuguide.org/#apachehttpserver09:19
zerokillshondje: k thanks09:19
hondjea recipe for apache sounds like a recipe for a rooting09:19
thoreauputicksoze: if you are into sound, the multiverse repo is pretty much a necessity, too09:20
Madpilotunprintable machine... Muine won't start tonight, and RythymBox just crashed again... :p09:20
zerokillshondje: nope, im gonna have to check up on some Cedega forums09:21
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hondjezerokills: okay...sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start I guess :) Good luck09:21
zerokillshondje: thanks :)  i know i can play Half-Life 2 now tho09:22
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hondjezerokills: if you're lucky, I oculdnt' get it going09:22
goye2czbob2: well, I tried and nothing has helped me yet. You said " if that doesn't work, your /etc/apt/sources.list is misconfigured". What's left for me to try now?09:22
hondje.5 fps09:22
bob2goye2cz: configuring it properly09:22
bob2goye2cz: paste it to #flood09:22
goye2czEverything was fine on the live cd, but now that I've installed, it's wacky.09:23
ksozeso sweep plays nice with esd?09:23
hornsbygoye2cz,  what message do you get when you try $sudo dpkg -i skype ****.deb09:23
ksozethor: noted.  Thanks.09:24
hondjeafter skype, hit tab and bash will spell the rest out for you09:24
goye2czhornsby: wish I could cut and paste from the terminal... just a sec...09:24
HappyFooldon't paste here! ;)09:24
ksozeok, rebooting09:24
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goye2czno such file.09:25
hornsbymaybe you are not in the right directory09:25
goye2czquite possible.09:25
bob2goye2cz: we need to see /etc/apt/sources.list09:25
HappyFoolgoye2cz: do what bob2 said -- paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood09:25
goye2czI am VERY new to this.09:25
goye2czwill do....09:26
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goye2czhee hee.... where do I find that?09:27
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bob2 /etc/apt/sources.list09:27
hornsby$sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list09:27
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bob2which won't work on ubuntu machines09:27
HappyFooli'm guessing he might not have kwrite ;)09:27
hornsbytrue :)09:28
hornsbygedit :)09:28
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: easy way:  gedit /etc/apt/sources.list,  highlight ,  go to the #flood channel, paste09:28
holycowanyone run myth tv under ubuntu?09:28
holycowjust curious if anyone has had any success?09:28
thoreauputicdo NOT paste in here though!09:28
goye2czI'm guessing I should be typing that in the terminal? It tells me permission denied.09:28
bigbill52ahad to replace a hard drive for a customer...used linux to copy all his windows files from his old computer to an external drive and after installing and formatting the new hard drive..copied the files back...windows started right up...09:28
hondjeeasier, if using xchat, /join #flood, and then /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list09:28
goye2czDON'T WORRY! will not paste here :-)09:29
hornsby$sudo gedit09:29
thoreauputicgoye2cz: yes, try hondje 's way instead09:29
bigbill52alive cd09:29
hondjeyeah, just /join #flood, I got your back :)09:29
goye2czwill do...09:29
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jetscreamer/etc/ in /ramdisk isn't it w/livecd09:30
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bigbill52ayou have to mount the two hard drives09:30
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bigbill52aactually i used the system rescue cd which uses gentoo and did everything from the command line09:31
bigbill52asaved me several hours reinstalling windows..and suffering excessive boredom09:32
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ksozeso anyone use ecasound?09:32
ksozesweep looks alright, but seems to be designed as a DJ tool09:33
IIIEarsHello Ubuntuans! :)09:33
HappyFoolmorning IIIEars09:33
nobile1:33 am here =P09:33
IIIEarsI need a hint on UT99 - It looks and runs perfectly :)09:34
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ksozewhat was the name of that jukebox app again?09:34
ksoze(I was gonna install it and forgot)09:34
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darkanyone havin a prob with breezy reps?09:34
ficusplanetubuntu made it into PC World's 100 best products of the year!09:34
hornsbyficusplanet, heheh, good news09:35
bob2dark: you need to be way more specific09:35
IIIEarsI just can't connect to an online server. The connection is accepted then.. Pause .. pause .. Nothing.. -???09:35
bob2dark: but things being uninstallable in breezy is to be expected09:35
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black13are there people up this hour09:35
ksozeoh yeah there are09:36
bob2black13: it's only 5:30pm here09:36
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black13where is here09:36
hondjegoye2cz: before all those lines that start with deb and deb-src, erase the #09:36
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IIIEarsblack13 - Of course there are. sleep is for people without high speed internet connections. - lol09:36
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darkas in having problems connecting to them or downloading from them in general09:36
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bob2dark: us.archive.ubuntu.com is screwed, it seems09:36
hondjegoye2cz: once you have those removed, sudo apt-get update09:37
black13i stay up late to watch daria09:37
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black13and compile LFS09:37
darkbob2: i see, bad time to upgrade then lol09:37
IIIEarsblack13 - daria?09:37
bob2dark: archive.ubuntu.com should be fine09:37
IIIEarsbob2 - any md5sum errors?09:38
black13daria was cartoon on mtv during the 90s09:38
darkroger, ill try again, thanks09:38
thoreauputicgoye2cz: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list to edit , then save the file09:38
bob2IIIEars: that's a symptom of it, yeah09:38
oliangsorry i type wrong message09:39
darkthats what i was getting09:39
syndis there any version of gnu/linux that the airport extreme card works with?09:39
darkton of md5 errors09:39
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bob2synd: no09:40
ficusplanetsynd, no09:40
bob2synd: broadcom refuses to document it09:40
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bob2feel free to email them to ask why not, tho...09:40
bob2maybe enough public pressure will make them change their minds09:40
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syndis there any reverse engineering being done?09:40
goye2czthoreauputic: Thanks for patience (to all actually) but am I to type that last command in this chat session?09:41
IIIEarsbob2 - Ogling some new AMD 64 motherboards - some have Broadcom chipsets are all broadcom products M$ addicted?09:41
bob2goye2cz: no, into your terminal09:41
jetscreamergoye2cz: no in console/xterm09:41
hondjeat least RE-ing drivers is the exception09:41
ksozeok, sweep seems a bit silly09:41
ksozeasking me to create a file and set a length up front09:42
bob2IIIEars: the ethernet chipsets work ok with one of two drivers on linux09:42
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bob2IIIEars: wireless ones seem to be the only problems09:42
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filosofis Ubuntu have problem install packages from source ???09:42
IIIEarsbob2 - Thanks09:42
hondjefilosof: No, not at all09:42
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ksozeI'm not gonna bother right now.  ubuntu is way cool.  Linux seems to be a giant PITA for recording.  :)09:42
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gm78filosof : i have compiled tons of things on ubuntu09:42
filosof hondje  i trying install apache (took it from apache.org) but get error while ./configure09:43
gm78filosof : what error?09:43
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filosofchecking for gcc... gcc09:43
filosofchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables09:43
filosofSee `config.log' for more details.09:43
filosofconfigure failed for srclib/apr09:43
bob2filosof: that just means you didn't install things correctly09:43
filosofthis one09:43
hondjefilosof: That doesn't mean ubuntu has a problem, that means you need to add more pkgs. :)09:43
bob2filosof: why are you compiling apache?09:43
gm78filosof : ubuntu includes apache. u also dont have a compiler installed. install the package build_essential and try again09:44
filosof bob2  i wanted to try how it's work with ather packages09:44
bob2filosof: I don't understand you09:44
jetscreamerhe meant why don't you just install apache btw09:44
bob2filosof: anyway, if you install the build-essential package, it will get past that09:44
ksozeare there any good irc channels or web communities for sound on linux (and particularly ubuntu)?09:44
black13jebuss, gcc takes forever to compile09:45
thoreauputicksoze: I'm sure there would be channels for audacity - probably on this server09:45
filosofi know ubuntu have apache , but i wanted try install apache from source :-\09:45
hondjeksoze: #alsa09:45
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thoreauputicksoze: probably lots of others here too09:45
gm78black13 : why are you compiling GCC?09:45
bob2filosof: then do what I said and you can09:46
goye2czdoes the sudo apt-get update generally take a long time?09:46
ksozehondje: tahnks09:46
ksozethoreauputic: thanks also09:46
bob2filosof: bear in mind you're making huge amounts of work for yourself for no reason, tho09:46
black13for LFS09:46
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thoreauputicgoye2cz: only the first time09:46
jetscreamergoye2cz: not usually, sometimes it hangs and i just ctrl+c it and redo09:46
thoreauputicksoze: you're welcome09:46
ksozeone of these days, when I have time, I'll try and get audacity going09:46
hondjewell, I see reasons to roll your own apache, but boredom would be an odd one09:46
jetscreamertimes out09:46
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ksozefor now, I'll just skip recording with linux09:46
filosof bob2  i know :-)) but i new for linux and try play around before i decide09:46
ksozeseems like it needs time to mature09:46
black13gm78, for lfs09:46
xbaxehey guys , is it possible to configure apt-get and use deb sources instead of ubuntu?09:47
bob2xbaxe: yes, but please don'\t09:47
gm78xbaxe : you could try. it isnt recommended tho09:47
syntaxmanfilosof: get the build_essential package and also read the man page for "apt-get"... it can get the sources for you and the dependencies too09:47
thoreauputicksoze: not so much that - but it takes more work than it should perhaps :)09:47
bob2syntaxman: -, not _09:47
xbaxebob2; what wud happen?09:47
bob2xbaxe: things will break in ways yo uwon't be able to fix09:47
ksozethoreauputic: at one level, they're the same thing.  :)09:47
goye2czjetscreamer: I'm converting from using windows for a LONG time. If I get my system hanging what should I do. In win I jsut use ctrl+alt+del.09:48
jetscreameri'll let you know when i get around to it xbaxe09:48
xbaxeah.... why wudnt we?09:48
bob2xbaxe: e.g. you won't be able to install packages from ubuntu, or upgrade to breezy09:48
bigbill52asame if you come the other way09:48
thoreauputicksoze: I know what you mean :)09:48
signiusoooh whats breezy ?09:48
filosof syntaxman  ok , thanks alot, i will try09:48
bob2bluntly, if you have to ask how to configure apt to do it, you're going to have a lot of trouble if someone tells you how09:48
goye2czwhile I wait... never mind, it's done09:48
syndsignius: the new installment of Ubuntu due in a few months09:48
bob2signius: the develpment branch of ubuntu09:48
xbaxebob2 , this is just for fun and coz i needed a system before going to Gentoo customization09:48
jetscreamergoye2cz: what i meant is that sometimes apt-get update will time out for me, i ctrl+c (stop) it and just sudo apt-get update again and it usually works09:48
signiusahhow stable is it at the moment09:48
ksozeany chance ubuntu will make esd play nice?09:48
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hondjesignius: not at all09:49
signiusis it real rough or is it fairly good ?09:49
syntaxmanbob2: oh yeah. build-essential09:49
bob2xbaxe: I don't know what that means09:49
ksozemaybe in the next release? (fingers corssed)09:49
hondjesignius: read the topic :)09:49
bob2signius: not very, /topic09:49
syndksoze: why not use alsa?09:49
xbaxebob2: sorry , my typing is crap09:49
bob2ksoze: it works fine with supported things09:49
zerokillshondje: Half-Life 2 runs flawlessly. sound and video, everything works great09:49
signiusok i will leave well alone for the moment on my laptop then09:49
ksozesynd" ;arge;y because i don't know what it is :)09:49
ksozelargely, even09:49
signiusi only just woke up so if i missed something i applogise09:49
xbaxebob2 : i tried installing Gentoo , and got burned for a bit09:49
TycheI use totem and the w32 codecs. It seems that audio and the picture do not match up...do you know why?09:49
bigbill52ai have strange things happening in kde on ubuntu that i dont have on debian...09:49
hondjezerokills: you win, I lose ;-) I might try it again, then, since I bought it andcan't use it09:49
signiusand be gentle with me i got a fuck off hangover09:49
ksozebob2: is there a list of supported sound recording apps?09:49
thoreauputicksoze: I think dmix is a better option, but I think breezy is using polypaudio09:50
xbaxei had a spare hoary cd and installed ubuntu09:50
bob2ksoze: anything with an ubuntu icon next to it in synaptic09:50
bob2bigbill52a: #kubuntu might know more09:50
IIIEarsgoye2cz - there is a tool you can easily right click and add to the taskbar for hung gui applications. I my desktop is really hung up CTRL+F2 works to get a console.09:50
hondjeTyche: use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer09:50
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zerokillshondje: it took a lot of dinking around, but i got it to work. its worth tryin to get it to work09:50
xbaxeso this is for in the middle where i lick my wounds and regroup for another attack09:50
syndksoze: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly09:50
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bigbill52alike if i try to even pick a screen saver (gl), as soon as the cursor touches it the computer locks up...09:50
ksozethoreauputic: dmix meaning the replacement for esd?09:50
benjamin123anyone here have a serial ata hd?09:50
ubotuNo idea, IIIEars09:51
jetscreamerhey assuming you can get the breezy live dvd to run ( i can) how would one install it... reboot ?09:51
bob2benjamin123: yes, lots of people do (including me)09:51
bigbill52aglx gears works fine...correct driver installed in both instances..so it must be a bug in kde specific to ubuntu09:51
jetscreameror is there a script09:51
thoreauputicksoze: I've disabled esd and use only dmix with xine, arts sometimes, gstreamer occasionally09:51
ksozesynd: what did you send me to?09:51
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syndksoze: to fix your sound : )09:51
benjamin123bob2, what controller port is your dvd or cd rom installed in, primary or secondary?09:51
ksozeit's not broken09:51
thoreauputicksoze: that URL is aguide to getting dmix working09:51
ksozeI just can't find a good audio app that works with what came out of the box09:51
bob2benjamin123: secondary sata, it seems09:52
ksozealthough bob2 appears to be pointing me toward some09:52
syndksoze: what were you complaining for about esd?09:52
benjamin123oh, its serial ata as well?09:52
ksozesynd: that audacity doesn't work with it09:52
jetscreamerbenjamin123: that's variable by the manufacturer, i've even seen a new one that had the cdrom on hda09:52
ksozeand that's fine09:52
hondjeif esd was great, it wouldn't be getting replaced in gnome 2.12...09:52
thoreauputicksoze: we could argue about whether esd is broken09:52
ksozeas long as something else does :)09:52
syndoh, i havent been paying much attn09:52
xbaxeGuys , does ubuntu come wit a Java ?09:52
thoreauputicksoze: I personally think esd stinks09:52
jetscreamerif you install it09:52
hondjethoreauputic: I tend to agree, BUT...09:53
ksozeI don't know much about it09:53
hondjewhen they replace it with gstreamer, I fear it'll be worse09:53
benjamin123i tried installing ubuntu but ran into problems, it couldnt get certain files of the disc, and i know its a good disc, i tried 2 different copies09:53
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ksozeI'm just trying to follow the "it just works" mentality09:53
holycowguys, what does this mean --> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mailx/mailx_8.1.2-0.20040524cvs-4_i386.deb  MD5Sum mismatch09:53
AndyRlo all09:53
bob2benjamin123: it's not a "good disk" unless you checked the md5sum09:53
benjamin123i have a sata hd and a dvd plugged into the primary ide controller, not secondary, and it is master09:53
ksozemeaning I am trying to get somethign that works with what is here09:53
bob2holycow: use archive.ubuntu.com09:53
syndksoze: most things "just work" but this aint no OS X : )09:53
holycowbob2, what is the difference?09:53
ksozeso does sound recording not just work?09:53
hondjeOS X doesn't just work either09:53
ksozethat'd save me some time :)09:54
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bob2holycow: one is in the us and doesn't work, one is in the uk and does ;)09:54
syndhondje: mhm09:54
thoreauputicksoze: yes, then you're stuck with killing esd from time to time09:54
Tychehondje: I am.09:54
HappyFoolxbaxe: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Java   for installing java09:54
holycowbob2, smartass :)09:54
hondjeTyche: You are what?09:54
ksozethoreauputic: unless I can find something that works09:54
ksozeI haven't given up yet :)09:54
ksozebut I'm close.  :)09:54
zerokillshondje: you ever gotten Counter Strike: Source to work on Ubuntu?09:54
thoreauputicksoze: which is wwhat dmix appears to do - at least for me09:54
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hondjezerokills: Never tried, last attempted w/ Sid09:54
benjamin123you think i should change the cdrom to secondary ide controller?09:55
ksozeright, but that sort of blowsa my initial point09:55
goye2czMy system jsut crashed for the third time since I installed ubuntu. since I'm using a different hard drive than I normally do, I suspect hardware faulty, but are there any known issues with ubuntu that could cause it to all of a sudden turn off like someone pulled the power plug?09:55
hondjeNot like that, no09:55
holycowgoye2cz, none that i know of, i've never heard of such a thing09:55
thoreauputicksoze: well, this is open source: it's a work in progress at any given moment :)09:55
Tychehondje: I am using totem-xine and I still have audio and video out of sync.09:55
holycowinfact i think it would be pretty hard to do, linux shutdown is not so simple :)09:55
hondjeTyche: oh, hrm09:55
hondjeTyche: are you playing from hdd or dvd?09:56
goye2czholycow: things are always happening to me that no one has ever heard of. I think it's just me.09:56
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ksozethoreauputic: yeah, but as we've noted, it appears sounds is much less mature than other areas09:56
ksozefor some places, I'll go with that09:56
ksozehell, it's my living to configre and go into guts09:56
geneo93anyone know of any BeOS themes for kubuntu09:56
thoreauputicksoze: fair enough09:56
zerokillsgoye2cz: or your hardware =\09:56
holycowgoye2cz, ehe, i know people like you :)09:56
ksozebut when I get home and plug in my guitar, I just wanna record, you know?09:56
xbaxehappyfool : thanks09:56
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thoreauputicksoze: sure09:56
hondjegeneo93: kde-look.org09:57
TycheSo far, just clips. Not from dvd or anything, I think they are just windows media files09:57
holycowgoye2cz, what zerokills said, that pretty much sounds like hardware, sometimes its hard to debug without spending cash on replacement parts09:57
hondjeTyche: then I dunno man, that's a bummer09:57
thoreauputicksoze: when you have time though, getting into how it works is kind of interesting09:57
hondjegoye2cz: smartmontools will check up on your hdd's health09:57
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ksozeI may just use the built in shoddy little recorder and an outboard mixer for tomorrow's tracks09:58
goye2czholycow: I would think (although you never know) it should be easy for me to narrow down. I'm using a notebook and it worked fine until I put this spare hdd in it.09:58
ksozethoreauputic: I may.  Depends on how much tinkering I want to do after work.  :)09:58
holycowksoze, what kinda guitar you got?09:58
holycowbob2, thanks bro, that worked :)09:58
benjamin123bob2, im checking the md5sum right now:)09:58
holycowgoye2cz, well then ... :)09:58
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ksozeholycow: I have a pair of guitars built by Ron Thorn in California:09:58
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thoreauputicksoze: well, enjoy the other bits of Ubuntu in the meantime ;)09:59
holycowcustom? l33t09:59
syndanyone fiddle around with LFS?09:59
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ksozeyeah, custom09:59
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holycowi have a peavey wolfgang standard, before ed left09:59
goye2czas for my skype issues... I'm installing those updates now.09:59
ksozeholycow: those are nice09:59
goye2czsays 2 minutes left.09:59