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soulridertheyre back12:11
soulriderTHANK YOU!! <312:11
soulriderall my work was there12:12
Chousukeheh12:12
Chousukeback up12:12
Chousuke:P12:12
soulriderim SO gonna back it up12:12
Chousukeon a separate machine if possible.12:12
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Chousukeyou never know when a hardrive fails.12:12
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Chousukeor when a fire happens.12:12
wildchildcan someone advice me how to install mic so I could talk by aMSN please?12:12
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_Shade_i'm just doing dist upgrade as they say in the wiki. Can i close adept and then continue the process tomorrow since it's just downloading now ?12:14
draikCan Norton Ghost work on linux?12:15
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JohnFlux_Shade_: yes12:16
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JohnFlux_Shade_: just dist upgrade again tomorrow and it will continue from where it left off12:17
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JohnFlux_Shade_: it will even continue from a half downloaded file12:17
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_Shade_JohnFlux: you mean i have to  click "full upgrade" in adept, right ?12:18
draikChousuke, my HDD is about to melt away soon12:18
draikBackup is my friend12:18
wildchilddoes anyone here use aMSN ???12:18
ka6soxwildchild, yes, but not the audio portion12:18
wildchildaha12:18
_Shade_because i am using adept right now, not cli12:18
wildchild:S12:18
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JohnFlux_Shade_: right12:19
wildchildka6sox which program do u use for audio cahtting12:19
JohnFlux_Shade_: the package thing is really solid now - it's been worked on for like 15 years now12:19
ka6soxskype12:19
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wildchildka6sox can I get it via adept?12:20
ka6soxprobably not...12:20
_Shade_JohnFlux: that's fine... i hope it will work since it wasnt last time when i was about to perform dapper -> edgy knot3 update12:20
thygrrrWhats a good way to terminate & restart the X server when you can not interact with the screen or apps that are currently open?12:20
Chousukedraik: My HD melted a week ago12:20
ka6soxwildchild, probably from skype12:20
poseidonthygrr: ctrl-alt-backspace12:20
thygrrrposeidon, what does it do?12:21
Chousukedraik: I had no backups, but luckily important data was elsewhere :P12:21
draikChousuke, ouch. Mine has minor welts on the bottom12:21
poseidonkills the X server.12:21
thygrrrposeidon, ok. what happens to the apps that are open?12:21
draikI'm on a 250GB HDD12:21
JohnFluxdoesn't kubuntu tell X to block ctrl-alt-backspace12:21
poseidonthygrr: they all close12:21
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thygrrrposeidon, do they close gracefully? :)12:22
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poseidonthygrrr: no.12:22
thygrrrouch12:22
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=== _Shade_ is 37% away from edgy :)
draikChousuke, I'm hoping that my HDD will last me to the holidays. 1TB HDD will be out by then... so they say12:22
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_Shade_ok gtg12:22
_Shade_take care guys12:23
_Shade_g'nite12:23
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bertha!es12:24
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:24
thygrrrposeidon, see, I have a problem I'm trying to investigate (closing LWJGL opengl apps cause my X server to pretty much stop in its tracks except for some sporadic widgets) ... it's really annoying and I only have some vague ideas. so far, I'm trying to at least avoid rebooting :)12:24
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thygrrrprobably only the graphics output part, apps still seem to react to the mouse (mouse cursor is rendered properly, app windows aren't). that's nasty.12:25
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thygrrrEverything is fine while the LWJGL app is still running. I can even move the windows to another desktop or minimize them12:28
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ka6soxtrying to install dapper, once it "boots" it shuts down the monitor, keyboard *and* mouse12:31
thygrrrhow can you tell the mouse is shutdown when the monitor is black?12:31
wildchildwhy doesnt update my /dev/apt/sources.list when I put in it: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:31
enguillemhi?12:31
ka6soxbecause the LIGHT is OFF.12:32
enguillemwhere can i get a good tutorial of qt?12:32
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thygrrrok I'll intentionally crash my X server now. :)12:32
cpk2wildchild: you mean /etc/apt/sources.list?12:32
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poseidonyeah, ctrl-alt-backspace does, in fact, work.12:32
wildchildcpk2 yes12:33
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cpk2wildchild: you editing it as root?12:33
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wildchildyes12:33
thygrrrok, CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE worked.12:33
wildchildotherwise I cant submit changes..12:33
thygrrrnow I can look to fix the problem :)12:33
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cpk2wildchild: so when you cat /etc/apt/sources you dont see your changes?12:34
cpk2sources.list that is12:34
wildchildnano /etc/apt/sources12:34
wildchildnano /etc/apt/sources.list12:34
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cpk2yes but cat or less it to see the changes are there12:35
cpk2if they are12:35
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greeghi guys12:36
wildchild# deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main12:36
wildchilddeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:36
wildchildit's enabled..12:36
wildchildbut still when I: apt-get update there isn't any skype package12:36
greegX for some reason is having trouble and im forced to use a live cd.  although i have not exported my firefox book marks.  it is still possible to back them up ?12:37
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cpk2wildchild: does it need a gpg key?12:37
wildchildI don't know what gpg is12:38
wildchildbut I take these actions from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype?action=show&redirect=SkypeHowto12:38
wildchildand there isnt'n mentioned any gpg key12:38
ka6soxthygrrr, basically I"ve been trying hoary, breezy and dapper and haven't gotten any of them to work.12:38
wildchild'12:39
tmdx120I am having trouble with syncing my palm, can anyone help?12:39
cpk2wildchild: apt-cache search skype turn up anything?12:40
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greegX for some reason is having trouble and im forced to use a live cd.  although i have not exported my firefox book marks.  it is still possible to back them up ?12:40
gnomefreakcpk2: sykpe isnt in repos last i checked12:40
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wildchildcpk2 nothing12:41
cpk2gnomefreak: he added a skype repo ^^12:41
gnomefreakSeveaa's repo had skype in it12:41
cpk2which apparently isnt working12:41
gnomefreakwildchild: did you run sudo apt-get update :)12:41
wildchildofcourse, 4times :)12:41
wildchildhm12:42
gnomefreakwildchild: add Seveas's repo12:42
wildchildor maybe is just unstable version of 6.10 ..12:42
cpk2did it say it was able to fetch from that repo or did it ignore it?12:42
gnomefreakunless he pulled it out12:42
Seveasdid that when skype.com had packages that work on Ubuntu12:42
wildchildcpk2 something did there..12:42
wildchildI have the same problem with adding into sources.list: # deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main12:44
wildchildpackgage for easycam12:44
cpk2well the # means its ignored12:44
wildchildI know..12:45
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wildchildI tried without #12:45
wildchildaha12:46
wildchildmaybe this is the reason:12:46
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lluka_anyone know how to open system sound in the terminal?12:47
wildchildcpk2: http://ubuntu.pastebin.ca/19353412:48
wildchildit's like server doesn't exists12:48
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zorglu_q. is there a vlc package which support mp3 encoding ?12:48
zorglu_vlc people told me it is coming from ffmpeg compiled with mp3 and statically linked12:49
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zorglu_with=without12:49
zorglu_oopsa12:49
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zorglu_!plf12:49
ubotuplf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf - mainly for i386 users with some packages for ppc12:49
finalbetawhat kde version does kubuntu ship?12:49
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buzzypeople should one install a firewall on kubuntu?12:49
bertha!es12:50
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.12:50
gnomefreakfinalbeta: what version of kubuntu12:50
finalbetagnomefreak, the edgy one.12:50
gnomefreak3.5.412:50
finalbetathnx12:50
cpk2wildchild: yeah, how old is the wiki you have? maybe skype changed the location12:50
buzzypeople should one install a firewall on kubuntu?12:50
wildchildso I have to find the location12:51
zorglu_buzzy: install one if you want to12:51
buzzyzorglu_,  am i safe if i have not?12:51
buzzyor do i risk ?12:51
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zorglu_you are not safe in both case12:52
cpk2buzzy: you are perfectly safe with or without12:52
buzzyok12:52
buzzywhy zorglu_12:52
buzzy?12:52
zorglu_with a properly configured firewall, you may be less vulnerable12:52
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zorglu_buzzy: because writing software is hard and dev doesnt care much about security12:52
zorglu_buzzy: so there is security hole in software12:53
greegdont  software testers check for those?12:53
buzzyok12:53
greegor even security admins perhalps ?12:53
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poseidonhow can I run a program with less privlages? Like, not able to use swap, and stuff?12:53
buzzyzorglu_, ok bye12:53
buzzy;)12:53
zorglu_poseidon: 'ulimit' is the way to set some of those12:54
zorglu_quota may help too12:54
zorglu_greeg: to detect security hole is hard too :) some tools exists to help tho12:54
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exmethix_i have a simple question12:54
poseidonzorglu: thanks12:54
snook353has anyone else had any probs with superkaramba?12:55
exmethix_i'd like to make a link to my trash on the desktop12:55
zorglu_but linux is well known to have much less security vulnerability than window for example12:55
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exmethix_would be fine if it would change it icon when its full or empty12:55
wildchildcpk2 so u've installed manually skype?12:55
wildchildcpk2 couse I am total newbie12:55
greegtime devoted to security is time stolen from technological advancement.12:56
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exmethix_could anybody help me?12:56
cpk2I dont use skype but I'm sure the have the source for it somewhere12:57
snook353exmethix_, right click on the panel12:58
zorglu_exmethix_: just tried and found out i dont know how to do it12:58
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exmethix_snook353:12:58
exmethix_jep12:58
exmethix_now12:58
exmethix_?12:58
snook353idk what jep means12:59
exmethix_jes12:59
exmethix_yes12:59
snook353still don 'tknow12:59
exmethix_what do you want to tell me?12:59
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cpk2wildchild: you are in luck skype has a .deb on their site http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/12:59
snook353ok, nm01:00
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zorglu_snook353: jep == yes01:00
tmdx120does anyone know how to get a palm to sync correctly using kpilot01:01
chxi know this sounds a bit whacky but really -- i have a password in my kwallet , which is open and i need the password to be used elsewhere. how can i get ? I *do* have the wallet password.01:01
exmethix_i simply want to have a trash on my desktop and that it changes the icon when full or empty01:01
snook353that's all i know.  just for the applet01:01
exmethix_would be even better if i could empty it with rightklick01:01
exmethix_ok01:01
cpk2wildchild: although skyps webite sys tht this repo works deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free01:01
Dr_willisexmethix_,  dont like it in the panel eh?01:01
exmethix_Dr_willis: right01:02
rubikcubeany idea what might be the gpg frontend with the most complete features?  I'm especially looking for the possibility to create new subkeys01:02
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chxSkype -- if you get Skype 1.3 *disable animated emoticons*01:03
Dr_willisim sure theres a way to make it show on the desktop.. but i never noticed.. I perfer it on the panel where its not always getting hidden. ;) Thers some control-center icon/tool that lists what icons are showned on the desktop01:03
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exmethix_:D01:03
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exmethix_very simple01:03
snook353how'd ya do it?01:03
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tmdx120does anyone know how to get a palm to sync correctly using kpilot01:04
snook353exmethix_, how'd ya do it01:04
exmethix_i just made a link to url: trash:/01:04
snook353oh01:05
exmethix_icons and so on come along themselfs01:05
exmethix_:D01:05
Dr_willisgoogle  for 'kubuntu how to show the trashcan on desktop' has a few hits.. :)01:05
Torched!garbage01:05
Dr_willishttp://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/23/how-to-show-the-trash-can-and-others-on-your-desktop-in-ubuntu/01:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about garbage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:05
Dr_willisI cant see why one would NOT like it on the panel. :)01:05
exmethix_Dr_willis: i have it01:05
tmdx120does anyone know how to get a palm to sync correctly using kpilot01:06
Dr_willisoh wiat that url is for gnome.. :P01:06
Dr_willislol01:06
Torchedall the links are always for gnome01:06
Dr_willistmdx120,  what have you tried so far?01:06
Torchedno one seems to give a fuck about kde01:06
Torchedi'm sick of being persecuted01:07
Dr_willisI specificially put 'kubuntu' in the google search. :P01:07
Torchedtoo bad!01:07
Dr_willisthe #2 link was for Kubuntu. :)01:07
Dr_willisCreate a text file on your Desktop by right-clicking on it and pointing to Create New > Text File. Open this file and paste the following in the file:01:07
Dr_willishttp://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2006/09/24/how-to-add-the-trash-can-to-your-kubuntu-desktop/01:07
tmdx120Dr_willis: I got kpilot working. I managed to get my database file from my desktop to my palm to do a resore. Now everytime I sync Iget "unable to read system information from pilot"01:09
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Dr_willisInteresting.01:09
Dr_willisso the downloading of data from Pilot -> linux worked.. but not  uploading.01:10
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tmdx120Dr_willis: it synced once. And that was just a normal sync. Since the palm was empty and my kpilot had info, it added the info to the palm01:12
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Brydenn33quick quesiton: my Kubuntu drive is hd0,0 How do i find out what my WindowsXP slave drive is?01:14
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Brydenn33Dr_willis: do you know? you seem to know quite a bit :)01:15
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Dr_willissudo fdisk -l, and see whats what. :P then i think theres /boot/grub/SOMTHING that tells what hdX kind of drive is what  grub Named drive..01:17
cpk2Brydenn33: is it mounted?01:17
Dr_willislet me check01:17
SyckPuppiTesting 1,2,301:17
Dr_willis/boot/grub$ cat device.map01:17
Dr_willis(hd0)   /dev/hda01:17
Dr_willis(hd2)   /dev/sda01:17
Brydenn33yes my drive is mounted01:17
Dr_willisYour device.map will vary :)01:17
Brydenn33yah i figured that01:18
Brydenn33see01:19
Brydenn33i didnt install kubuntu WITH my WinXP drive present01:19
Brydenn33so it doesnt show up in GRUB as an option to boot to01:20
Brydenn33so i need to figure out how to "manually" do it01:20
Brydenn33i'm assuming i need to add my XP drive into device.map01:20
Brydenn33and add it to the menu.list in grub01:20
Brydenn33correct?01:20
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AWOSDevI'm having problems with, uh, everything.01:29
AWOSDevKonversation won't load for some reason.01:29
AWOSDevNothing printed on stdout or stderr.01:30
AWOSDevKDE File Picker isn't listing half of the files in my home directory.01:30
bluch!xserver01:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:30
AWOSDevAnd OpenOffice freezes when I do, uh, anythihng.01:30
AWOSDevs/anythihng/anything01:30
AWOSDevAnybody know why all this crap is happening to my poor little laptop?01:31
AWOSDevIs there like a #Kubuntu-level2 channel?01:32
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rubikcubelevel2?01:32
AWOSDevyeah for those harder problems that level 1 techs can't solve :)01:33
rubikcubeYou finished off the level 1 monster boss, continue on Level 2 :)01:33
AWOSDev:)01:33
warpzonehmm I'm like, a level 0.1. I just figured out where the log files are :-P01:33
AWOSDevwarpzone, ya just discovered the wonderous /var/log huh?  :)01:34
rubikcubeAWOSDev: for the really advanced problems, there are #foo-dev channels quite often01:34
Dr_willistail -f /var/log/SOMTHING  :)01:34
warpzonebut I point anybody < 0.1 to the correct wiki or forum pages. just trying to do my part :)01:34
AWOSDevHey Dr_willis.01:34
warpzoneooo tail would be handy., im writing that down01:34
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Dr_willisHello AWOSDev01:35
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Dr_williswarpzone,  tehres tools that can put the tail/log output in a terminal/desktop background also. :P01:35
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warpzoneDr_willis: omg been searching for that forever, not only is it cool but I get geek creds X)01:36
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warpzonenow I have a direction, thanks01:36
Dr_willis'roottail' is fun01:36
Dr_willisas is colortail01:36
AWOSDevcolortail, hmm, I'll have to check that out :)01:37
Dr_willisand colorgcc01:37
AWOSDevDr_willis, for some reason I view as a level 2.  Do you know why my laptop is really really screwed up?01:37
Dr_willisthose may be a bit out of date now a days and replaced with better tools01:37
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DinkDr_willis, I installed ultraiso via cxoffice and just extracted the mdf image =)01:37
Dr_willisAWOSDev,  PEBKAC ?01:38
Dr_willis:P01:38
AWOSDevAWOSDev, I don't *think* so :)01:38
warpzoneooo do they have color-coding like vim or gedit?01:38
Dr_willisDink,  thats... sick. :)01:38
Dinkwas the only way to do it01:38
Dinklol01:38
Dr_williswarpzone,  yep.01:38
AWOSDevI like Kdevelop for that.01:38
Dr_willisAWOSDev,  #1 test - i would make a totally NEW user.. and see if the issues affect him as well.01:38
AWOSDevDr_willis, hmm interesting.01:39
Dr_willisAWOSDev,  if they DONT then you some how got some really messed up kde settings for the first user.01:39
Dinkohh and cxoffice 6 beta2 seems to be better at installing games then cedega, this is going to be interesting01:39
AWOSDevDr_willis, that's a good idea.  Didn't think of that.  Shall I name him "whitenerdy" :P01:39
Dr_willis#2 test.. dont use kdm/gdm - boot to the console and start X with 'startx' see if any logg/errors show up01:39
AWOSDevDr_willis kinda forced to do that01:39
Dr_willis:)01:39
AWOSDevkdm doesn't work anymore :(01:39
Dr_willis#3 - sounds lik eit may be time to backup /home in that case.. and reformat/reinstall.. :P01:40
Dr_willis#2.5 try some live cd's see if they have an issue01:40
Dr_willisim out of order now01:40
AWOSDevDr_willis, ugh, I just installed it in August01:40
Dr_willisI reinstalled last week after testing out Edgy...01:40
Dr_willis:)01:41
Dr_willisadvise for now.. leave edgy alonw.01:41
Dr_willisalone.  Heh heh01:41
warpzoneAWOSDev: did you use the default or mess around with stuff01:41
Dr_willisAWOSDev,  you been twiddling with things?01:41
AWOSDevwarpzone, meaning what?  I installed from the live CD.01:41
AWOSDevDr_willis no01:41
Dr_willis can you even Prove its a KDE issue?01:41
Dr_willistry gdm, see if it works good.01:41
warpzonemy first install I tried to do some advanced stuff, not even really advanced, and wound up with no sudo and a root password and no package manager01:41
AWOSDevDr_willis I was just making road signs in KolourPaint, went to open my I-95 Exit 21 picture, and it wasn't there01:41
AWOSDevDr_willis so I typed the name and it opened it01:42
Dr_willisodd.01:42
AWOSDevDr_willis and now exits 20-32 are missing01:42
warpzoneAWOSDev: oh wait, I havent installed since breezy, wasnt the same then01:42
AWOSDeveven with "show hidden files"01:42
AWOSDevI'm *soooooooo* confused01:42
AWOSDevAnd Konversation won't come up01:43
Dr_willishidden files --> ones that begin with a .    Nothing more.. nothing less.01:43
Dr_willis:)01:43
AWOSDevno errors printed on the Konsole though01:43
AWOSDevso I'm on irssi01:43
AWOSDevwhich isn't that pretty01:43
AWOSDevhalf of the nicks are white on white :P01:43
AWOSDevBesides I have no where to back up to01:44
AWOSDevmy ~ is very large01:44
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dennisterg'day all01:44
AWOSDev600+ 4 megapixel digital camera pictures01:44
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Dr_willisAWOSDev,  thats a bit personal isent it... :)01:44
AWOSDevDr_willis LOL01:45
Dr_willisThats what fileservers are for.01:45
Dr_willisBeen tuneing up my fileserver all week.01:45
AWOSDevYeah I don't have one, I want one01:45
Dr_willisthe fan on the MB/chipset was going out making nouses.. replaced it with a Huge Heatsink/no fan.. :P01:45
AWOSDevI have the 40gig over there, but she's only got about 5GB free01:45
Dr_willisthen i found a video card (old pci) with no fan...01:45
Dr_willis40gb? gesh.. i got those ... in the closet.01:46
Dr_willis:P01:46
warpzonethats what this box is going to be as soon as I get my signing bonus :-P 1 terabyte of media and docs and games. delicious01:46
AWOSDev1TB!?01:46
AWOSDevdang01:46
Dr_willisSlowly making a Noiseless (well very little little) Fileserver01:46
AWOSDevI really need to go to Office Depot01:46
warpzoneyeah 500g HDs are cheap now01:46
AWOSDevthey have a sale, 100GB for $2001:46
AWOSDevI could use that01:46
AWOSDevHeck I could make a RAID array with that01:46
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Dr_willisi saw 100gb external usb/laptop sized drives for $100 today01:46
warpzoneim going to do a raid0, so i guess its only 500g01:47
Dr_willistiny and storage.01:47
warpzoneman makes me feel old and Im 23. I remember my sony with 500megs01:47
AWOSDevwarpzone, *only* 500GB?01:47
warpzonelol01:47
AWOSDevI remember my 8088 with 20MB01:47
dennisterhey pps, anyone know how to debug ivtv driver install?01:47
AWOSDevHey, Office Depot is still open for another hour01:47
AWOSDevOh my I'm so tempted01:48
AWOSDevsale ends tomorrow01:48
warpzonedennister: nope :( but i'll be with you in a week or so, can't wait to try it01:48
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warpzonedamn AWOSDev get moving01:48
dennisterwhen u get that new pc built?01:48
AWOSDevI could get the 20GBs of Windows crap off this laptop and make it a Linux-only01:48
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dennisterlucky u01:49
AWOSDevalright fine01:49
warpzonedennister: yeah this will eventually be a fileserver + mythTV box, once yknow, I learn how to set one up :-P :-P01:49
AWOSDevI think I will01:49
AWOSDevif I can scrounge up the $100 pre-rebate money I will01:49
AWOSDevwell let's see what I can find through the house01:49
AWOSDevbye all!01:49
warpzoneadios01:49
dennisterthat's what I'm trying to accomplish here with this 7mo-old htpc01:49
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dennisterhave my lamp server, at the ivtv driver stage, but they're not right yet, and I want them right b4 I move to next stage01:50
Dr_willisi got a 5 MB hard drive out in the garrage01:50
warpzonedennister well best of luck, hope to hear updates from you01:50
warpzoneDr_willis good god01:51
dennisterk...here's another question some of u may know: how do I do a search for all files on pc with the "ko" extension?01:51
warpzonelocate01:51
warpzonei would do locate *.ko01:51
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MotorCityMadManAdded memory/kubuntu hangs on login/removed added memory/kubuntu boot's normally/anyhelp ?/BIOS settings ?01:52
Dr_williswarpzone,  its for an Apple MacSE  little bitty Mac. the Drive/exclosure is the size of many pc's :)01:52
dennistertried that: "*.do"01:52
Dr_williswait - it may be 15mb...01:52
fateisajesteri am having the same issue as with this page http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=32170401:52
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fateisajesterhow to i define $PATH to gtk01:52
Brydenn33sweet01:53
warpzonedennister: hmm, wonder what else woudl work01:53
Dr_williserr....01:53
dennisteromg...tried again, and the list is huge! (perhaps i'd used find instead of locate b4)01:53
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Brydenn33i got the dual boot to Windows XP now guys01:53
Dr_willis$PATH is one thing... whats this GTK thing you are trying to define?01:53
Brydenn33wasnt even that hard hahaha01:53
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warpzonedennister my girl was doing the same thing, dunno why find and locate are so different01:54
dennisterbryden: it's incredibly easy with 2 hdd01:54
Brydenn33yah i know but i had to manually do it01:54
bluchhow can i use transparancy and shadows?01:54
Brydenn33didnt install kubuntu with the xp drive present01:54
dennisteri didn't have to do follow any of the howto's after all01:54
warpzoneBrydenn33: ever read the unofficial ubuntu starter guide?01:54
fateisajesteridk. thats what it said in the forum01:54
Brydenn33warpzone:  ya, but that was a long time ago ;)01:54
warpzoneBrydenn33: it shows how to set one up super easy01:54
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fildo_hey guys, i have a created a sym link from my home dir / to anoter users home dir . with sudo01:55
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Brydenn33warpzone: i'm sure it does. i read another link though. helped me out01:55
fildo_but when i try n ftp in , the directory is there, but there isnt any file listings01:55
warpzoneBrydenn33: i point any new users to it, its what helped me start ubuntu01:55
dennisteri thought the dual boot wasn't working yet because I was trying to follow the howtos01:55
fildo_would this be permissions ? would i have to chmod the symlink ?01:56
dennisterthen i came home one day and found my son had simply selected it in grub...and it worked!01:56
Brydenn33warpzone: yep, i went there the first time in installed kubuntu a year ago01:56
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dennisterdidn't even have to fool windows01:56
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warpzonefildo_: I would try that, if you made it with root you would need to chmod it, prolly 75501:56
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warpzonedennister haha thats awesome01:57
dennisteryeah...people should really be told they don't have to follow any howtos or fool windows at all with ubuntu01:57
fildo_warpzone: ta, i try now01:57
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Brydenn33anyone here running Edgy?01:57
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DeadSouLme01:58
Brydenn33i have the 386 installed. do they have a 686 for edgy yet?01:58
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DeadSouLdunno01:58
dennisterstruggling with howtos to get a dual boot going for a newbie is a huge waste of time, and can turn the newbs away from linux01:58
warpzonedennister I started linux with Gentoo, I know how you feel01:59
Brydenn33lol @ Gentoo01:59
dennistermandriva wasted about 6 weeks of nonstop time01:59
Brydenn33i had a discussion about it yesterday01:59
Brydenn33i couldnt even get Gentoo to load01:59
warpzoneever seen a total newb try to configure a kernel and xserver?01:59
Brydenn33and i tried like 25 times02:00
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dennistermandriva is NOT ready for 64 bit platforms for newbs...it will fall apart way too soon02:00
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dennisteri was really tempted to start with gentoo from the beginning...all of 2 months ago02:01
warpzonegotta say, I love ubuntu. If it wasnt for this I would maybe buy a macbook, but I actually feel like I use my computer now02:02
warpzoneif only I could ditch the MS partition... but I'm learning photoshop :(02:02
dennisterhey, I even programmed a dhcpd daemon from scratch the other day...debugged it, and it worked!02:03
warpzonedennister: neat, what for?02:03
dennistermy isp won't let me have a static ip02:03
dennisterand mythtv needs one, so I was trying to make my ubuntu server the router02:03
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warpzoneooo that reminds me, gotta set up the DNS cache02:04
dennisterand have the other 2 pc's connect to the internet through the hub, hub to ubuntu, ubuntu to cable modem02:04
warpzoneeh for router I'll get the wrt54gl and flash it, can';t wait to play with that02:04
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warpzonecomputer for router would just use to much electricity I think02:04
dennisterwapzone, if u can, get a dlink...they have some of the best customer serve and tech support i've ever seen02:05
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MotorCityMadManAdded memory/kubuntu hangs on login/removed added memory/kubuntu boot's normally/anyhelp ?/BIOS settings ?02:05
dennisterwarpzone; it was to be a multi-function server02:05
warpzonedennister ah02:05
dennisterwarpzone: like i said: dlink!02:06
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: not a clue man, but saying hi helps a ton in getting help02:06
MotorCityMadManhello02:06
dennisteri can't help either motorcitymadman02:07
dennistersorry02:07
dennister<--------too much of a newb02:07
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: :-P howdy, let me check the forums real quick, maybe this is common issue02:07
MotorCityMadManwarpzone: thank you02:07
MotorCityMadMani'm thinking a bios setting maybe02:08
MotorCityMadManMHz ?02:08
dennisterthe bios should detect the new ram02:08
MotorCityMadManSysinfo for 'Kubuntu': Linux 2.6.15-27-amd64-generic running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMDAthlon643400+ at 1808 MHz (3622 bogomips), , RAM: 423/1003MB, 98 proc's, 21.34min up02:08
dennisterthat's usually pnp02:08
Torchedi want to live on a ship02:09
MotorCityMadMandennister: it did but login screen just hangs02:09
MotorCityMadManalso did a recovery02:10
MotorCityMadManstill no luck02:10
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dennisteroh dear...would love to help if i could02:10
MotorCityMadManold memory stick became very hot02:10
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: hey have you tried the memtest that comes with ubuntu?02:10
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: or does it not reach that point on boot?02:11
RanarchyMotorCityMadMan: Have you tried the new stick on its own?02:11
MotorCityMadManwarpzone: i will give memtest a go02:11
warpzonefrom what I see, it might be a bad stick02:11
dennistermost of what I'm good for is apa 5th, endnote script-level programming, and linux-multimedia02:11
MotorCityMadManRanarchy: yes and works fine02:11
warpzonehmm nvm02:11
MotorCityMadManworks good with one or the other but not both02:12
dennisterare the two sticks the same? they should be matched exactly if possible02:12
MotorCityMadMandennister: yes 1gb , 512mb both pc-3200 ddr-40002:13
MotorCityMadMan1gb bank 1 and 512 in bank 202:14
koboi_# ubuntu-probleme02:14
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dennisterk...i know the mobos are picky about dual channel matching...might detect both, but doesn't necessarily work well with both if they're not matched02:14
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koboi_#ubuntu-probleme02:14
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dennisterhmmmmmm02:15
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan have you tried with another operating system to see if it is linux-specific (if thats a possibility)02:15
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Brydenn33quick question: is Gentoo or OpenBSD harder to install? hehe02:15
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shadowravengentoo02:15
Brydenn33isnt gentoo based off BSD?02:16
maryennoo02:16
maryenlinux02:16
dennistergentoo? i couldn't even get the livecd installed on an old pII; hung at detecting the cdrom drive02:16
Brydenn33BSD is its own thing huh02:16
maryenyeah02:16
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MotorCityMadManwarpzone: yes i have / winxp boots fine / it's just kubuntu thats having the issue02:16
Brydenn33dennister:  i had the same issue. hung every time02:16
dennisterimagine: not being able to install a livecd02:16
dennisterlol02:16
maryenthe gentoo graphical install is said to be worse02:17
maryengentoo is for freaks that like to compile02:17
maryenaka masochists02:17
MotorCityMadMani will do the memtest02:17
Brydenn33haha02:17
dennisterand yet the systemrescuecd worked fine on the same pII, and it's gentoo-based02:18
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dennisteri did a compile last night, and now i'm here with a problem, lol02:19
maryeni compile some things, such as my ndiswrapper02:19
dennister<------- may be a tech wannabe, but isn't there yet02:19
maryenbut when apt-get is an alternative, i always take it02:19
dennistermaryen, would you know how to debug an ivtv driver make?02:20
maryenno02:20
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: okay this might work02:20
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: do you get to the login screen before it locks?02:20
dennisterk...thought i'd ask02:20
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dennistercouple of error messages...this one may not be ivtv-specific tho: (error message will be on next line)02:21
dennisterno version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted.02:21
notechif the bios is set for dual channel and you have a 1GB and 512MB stick, it'll fail02:22
warpzoneMotorCityMadMan: if you can get to a terminal before it locks (hit Ctrl-Alt-F1 at login screen) then login to the terminal and type "sudp dpkg-reconfigure kdm"02:22
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dennisteri think he means 1G total ram, 2 sticks of 51202:22
coreymon77hey guys02:22
dennisterhi coreymon02:22
coreymon77ya02:22
coreymon77my wireless network cardis fying02:23
coreymon77so02:23
coreymon77i was wondering02:23
dennister<-----assumes 'guys' is generic for pps02:23
warpzonewell hey guys im out, if MotorCity shows back up tell him to scroll up :-P02:23
warpzonethanks for help, sees ya later02:23
dennisterk...bye wapzone02:23
coreymon77whats a decently priced, good wireless network card that will connect to a linksys router and works in dapper out of the box02:24
dennisteroops...warpzone02:24
maryendunno coreymon, whats wrong with your current one? dead?02:24
coreymon77dying02:24
dennisternot sure what works with linux, but I adore my dlink router and card for other xp pc02:24
maryenhmm02:25
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dennisterthey have fabulous tech support and warranties02:25
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josh_whats up people02:25
josh_have  big issue i cant figure out02:25
josh_i just got a wireless router02:25
maryenhttp://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/ here u go coreymon7702:25
dennisterwhich brand?02:26
josh_i have a network router already so i want to keep it in place for the sensitive traffic02:26
dennisterrouters seems to be a running theme today02:26
coreymon77my router is a linksys on02:26
coreymon77e02:26
josh_but i cant seem to have 2 routers at once?02:26
dennistersure u can josh02:26
coreymon77and im wondering if i should just get another card from linksys02:26
coreymon77or get something else02:26
dennistermost small businesses have a series of routers, all daisy-chained02:26
josh_thats what i thought02:26
josh_but when i restart the computer it wont allow me to get online for some reason02:27
maryenthat page should have info about wireless cards and how well they work coreymon7702:27
dennisteri just feel it's safer to have wireless router and cards from the same company to ensure compatability02:27
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dennisterwelcome back motorcity02:28
coreymon77wait a sec guys02:28
MotorCityMadMandennister: ty02:28
dennisterwarpzone had to go, he said to tell u to scroll up02:28
maryenactually this one is better coreymon77 http://www.linux-wlan.org/docs/wlan_adapters.html.gz02:29
coreymon77all be right back02:29
coreymon77ill*02:29
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MotorCityMadManme undersatnd now: 1GB card is single-sided RAM | 512 card is dual-sided RAM02:30
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dennistergreat motorcity! u've successfully diagnosed the problem02:30
maryenok so let me get this straight josh_02:30
dennisternow u can fix it by returning what u just bought02:30
MotorCityMadMan1st bank supports dual and 2nd and 3rd support only single-sided RAM02:30
maryenyou've got one router connected to the net02:30
josh_yes02:31
maryenthen you've got another connected into it02:31
maryenfor wireless02:31
josh_and another router (wireless) connect to a hub downstairs02:31
josh_exactly02:31
josh_the wife just bought a mac and she wants to do her work everywhere in the house... so i got the wireless for her02:31
dennisterhow many pc's do u have to these 3 routers josh?02:31
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maryeni don't think that will work because your wireless router probably wont send a dhcp request to the old one02:32
maryenget a wireless access point instead02:32
josh_3 to the first, 3 on the hub and 2 on the wireless02:32
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maryenhttp://www.pcconnection.com/ProductDetail?sku=427968&SourceID=k2235002:33
fateisajesterdoes any one know if linpal is on anyof the repositories. i cant find it and im having a really hard lime installing it from a "binary+source package"02:33
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josh_well the thing is... when i have all thecomputers connected to the internet and then plug in the wireless, my wife and turn on her mac and get online02:33
dennisteru should be able to just get a new card for the mac, attach it (so to say) to a wireless router u've already got02:33
josh_its only if i restart and try to log on that it happens02:33
maryenyou connecting via wireless yourself?02:34
josh_well the mac and my laptop arte the only 2 comps that have wireless02:34
dennisterand what exactly "happens"02:34
MotorCityMadMan$90 dollar mis-steak on my part. paid for the wroung ram. not is lost thu, the 1gb ram does work in the first bank02:34
josh_but since i dont ever use the laptop in my house really there was no need for wireless02:34
dennisteru should be able to return it motorcity02:35
maryenso is it a problem with your laptop or one of your landline computers?02:35
MotorCityMadMantrash man has all the rappings02:35
josh_so my wife bought and mac and wanted wireless... bought the router... hooked it up and everything is fine....then i had to reinstall linux on the comp im using now.02:35
josh_after i did the install i couldn't get online02:35
josh_so i unplugged the wireless... restarted my linux box and now i can get online02:36
dennistercan u use it on another pc motorcity?02:36
MotorCityMadMandennister: good idea02:36
maryentry plugging into the wireless router02:36
dennisteralways! keep all your tech receipts, wrappings until it works well02:36
MotorCityMadMani have three towers and 4 mobo02:36
josh_i can cable connect the wireless and access it02:37
dennister<--------keeps boxes for moving purposes02:37
josh_i can even connect to the non wireless router02:37
MotorCityMadMan<-- here comes the sreew drivers out02:37
josh_i put the wireless on a sperate ip address so i could access both if i needed02:37
dennisteri gotta get back to my ivtv driver-debugging pps...cya later02:38
maryenbye dennis02:38
maryengot a guide for it?02:38
MotorCityMadManlater dennister02:38
MotorCityMadManty02:38
josh_so with this accesspoint... i can just plug that into my hub that is connected to my router (non-wireless) and it will act as a wireless router?02:38
maryenyes02:39
josh_i will be able to connect the mac wirelessly with just the existing router?02:39
maryenyes02:39
josh_oh snap!!02:39
josh_i gotta run back to the store02:39
josh_thanks02:39
maryenlol bye02:39
josh_bye02:39
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MotorCityMadManshutting down for upgrade02:42
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Dr_willisOk.. explain this to me.. I got TV out working.. looks good.. I plug in the audio cable to my sound card.. and the tv out picture gets all sorts of interfearance...02:48
BonBonTheJonDr_willis: what kind of video card do you use02:51
Dr_willisgt6800pro02:52
BonBonTheJonnvideo?02:52
Dr_willisIve always noticed the tv out being sort of bla.. with interfearcnac02:52
BonBonTheJonnvidia?02:52
Dr_willisbut i moved the machine today.. plugged the cables in and poof - GOOD tv out pic..02:52
Dr_willisyes nvidia02:52
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Dr_willisso i then plug in the audio cables.. and bam- picture gets all sorts of interfearance02:53
InteliWasphow can i tell what version of kde i have?02:53
BonBonTheJonany idea how to get tv out working on ati02:53
BonBonTheJonInteliWasp: open any kde app and its in the help menu02:53
Dr_willisBonBonTheJon,  Nope. :P02:53
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Dr_willisAHA -02:55
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Dr_willisit pays to not have a cable plugged into the SVideo in, and rca in...02:55
Dr_willisputting the stero R  - into the RCA video in... is not good. :)02:56
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SeanTaterDr_willis: red plug to red plug02:56
jahanzaibhello02:56
SeanTaterDr_willis: white to white02:56
SeanTaterDr_willis: yellow to yellow --02:57
SeanTaterjahanzaib: hello02:57
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Dr_willisthey tdont match up. :P02:57
Dr_willisit has blue and black..02:57
SeanTaterDr_willis: ?02:57
Dr_willisPlus its dark behind the tv.02:57
Dr_willisBut hay! i got decent tv out now!02:57
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SeanTaterDr_willis: all red, yello, and red here, green and yellow for svideo02:57
claudiosalve :D02:58
SeanTater /yello/yellow02:58
Dr_willisafter i went and bought  a new svideo cable that i aparently dident need .02:58
LeeJunFanDr_willis: I'm afraid we may have to yank voice from you on this channel - not sure we need you giving advice any more :p02:58
Dr_willis:)02:58
BonBonTheJondr_willis: are you using the proprietary drivers, or some open source one02:58
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SeanTaterDr_willis: Actually, I;ve been looking for an svideo cable for a week02:58
Dr_willisBonBonTheJon,  using the nvidia drivers02:58
claudionessuno parla italiano qua? :)02:58
Dr_willisSeanTater,  Walmart had some nice 6 ft ones  for $702:58
Dr_willisSeanTater,  BestBuy was a total rip-off on them02:59
ekim\Hi02:59
Dr_willis$20 for a 6 ft svideo cable!02:59
BonBonTheJonhi02:59
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SeanTaterDr_willis: um -- svideo -> rca cables?02:59
SeanTaterekim\: hello02:59
SeanTaterBonBonTheJon: hello02:59
Dr_willisrca = the single plug.. svideo has several smaller pins..02:59
SeanTater!it claudio02:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it claudio - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:59
ekim\Alright...I was going to ask how to install kubuntu...02:59
SeanTater!it > claudio02:59
ekim\but first I have to figure out what version I have03:00
ekim\Is there an easy way to do that ?03:00
Dr_willisekim\,  huh.. what are you running now anyway?03:00
SeanTaterekim\: probably03:00
SeanTaterekim\: when did you download it?03:00
ekim\Im running kubuntu niw03:00
ekim\the live cd03:00
SeanTaterekim\: if you start konqueror, it will probably tell03:01
ekim\What version did they start making the install disk and the livde cd the same disk03:01
ekim\I c03:01
BonBonTheJondapper?03:01
ekim\Awesome03:01
ekim\IT comes with katapult03:01
SeanTaterekim\: nope03:01
ekim\Never new that03:01
SeanTaterekim\: sorry, konq won't tell03:02
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SeanTaterekim\: but as for katapult, I never figured out what key started it03:02
ekim\ha03:02
ekim\its alt space03:02
ekim\I use something like it on windows all the time03:02
BonBonTheJonekim\: run 'uname -r' in konsole03:02
ekim\Love it03:02
LeeJunFanah damn, ekim\ gave me an idea - to set my nick to /quit but it won't let me :) hehe03:02
SeanTaterdumbkiwi: I once had a bird named kwiw, it was the dumbest bird I ever knew03:02
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ekim\haha03:02
SeanTaterdumbkiwi: /kiwi/03:02
ekim\it cant start with a \03:03
ekim\and / doesent work at  all03:03
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ekimSee03:03
ekimI did ekim/03:03
ekimbut it didnt do it03:03
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ekim\:)03:03
LeeJunFanI tried to start with / and I got an erronious nick error.03:03
ekim\Indeed03:03
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ekim\O cool03:04
ekim\uname -r03:04
SeanTaterekim\: I tried cahracters like [ { and ( too, they don;t work either03:04
SeanTaterekim\: or spaces, they don't seem to work03:04
ekim\as a rule the only punctuation that works is ! . and -03:04
ekim\also _03:04
BonBonTheJonekim\: that should give the kernel you are using, that would give an indication of the release03:04
ekim\:)03:04
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ekim\this might seem like a noob question..how do I copy from teh terminal03:04
[testNick] wow -- it did work03:04
ekim\Indeed03:04
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ekim\2.6.12-9-38603:05
Dr_willisekim\,  cp command03:05
ekim\There you go03:05
King_Braddoes ubuntu have any webcam software i can use?03:05
Dr_willisekim\,  reading a few bash tutorial/guides is worth the time spent.03:05
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Dr_willis:)03:05
ekim\Hmm03:05
ekim\yeah I think it omes with one03:05
SeanKing_Brad: sure03:05
LeeJunFan\quit is owned by someone03:05
ekim\I figured it out03:05
ekim\...03:05
n00btardhow do i fix this error? /bin/sh: make: command not found03:05
ekim\haha03:05
King_Bradanyone got a name?03:05
SeanKing_Brad: the webcam is avtually built into the kernel03:05
ekim\I didnt mean copy IN the terminal03:05
ekim\I mean copy FROM the terminal03:05
ekim\Litterally copy + paste text03:06
ekim\I know cp ha03:06
SeanKing_Brad: I think one is ktvtime03:06
King_BradSean: ok, but i still gotta have software to use it right?03:06
BonBonTheJonekim\: right click03:06
Dr_willisselect/middle click03:06
Dr_willis:)03:06
ekim\O cool03:06
ekim\:)03:06
ekim\Thanks for the tip03:06
Dr_willis<ekim\> O cool03:06
BonBonTheJon!make03:06
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:06
ekim\!install03:06
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues03:06
Dr_willisheh middle click works for me in Xchat03:06
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ekim\Hey03:06
LeeJunFanmaybe I should just go with LeeJ[tab] 03:06
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ekim\just out of curiosity03:07
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BonBonTheJonn00btard: i think you need automake03:07
ekim\Has anyone here heard of DigitalLife03:07
ekim\the convention03:07
n00btardohhh03:07
ekim\next week03:07
BonBonTheJonn00btard: try installing that, then tell me if it worked03:07
n00btardok thx03:07
ekim\Hmm...Im curious what other browsers could I use on here besides firefox an kq03:07
ekim\I know there are los03:07
ekim\liek galeon03:07
BonBonTheJonn00btard: what are you trying to install03:07
BonBonTheJonekim\: Opera03:08
n00btardim trying to compile this program i made03:08
ekim\O cool03:08
n00btardwith kdevelop03:08
ekim\I forgot about it03:08
BonBonTheJonn00btard: do you have a compiler (ie. gcc) installed03:08
ekim\me <3 gcc :)03:08
n00btardahhhhhh03:08
n00btardidk03:08
n00btardim new to it03:09
BonBonTheJonn00btard: you also need build-essential03:09
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ekim\anyway03:09
n00btardok thanks03:09
ekim\Is anyone going to DigitalLife next week ?03:09
n00btarddo i need gcc as well?03:09
LeeJunFanI thought kdevelop had deps on all the gcc make, automake and what not, hrm.03:09
LeeJunFann00btard: install build-essential03:10
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n00btardjust did, im gunna try and see if it works now03:10
ekim\Anyway ...Installing kubuntu03:10
ekim\How do I do it03:10
n00btardsays it requires automake 1.6.... ill install that i guess03:11
BonBonTheJonekim\: if you are using the live cd, there is an installer icon on the desktop03:11
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King_Bradekim, the documentation should help ya03:11
ekim\:(03:12
ekim\Anyone here ?03:12
BonBonTheJonwhat do you need help with03:13
ekim\lol03:13
n00btardconfigure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:13
ekim\Obviously I checked for the icon03:13
ekim\...03:13
n00btardwtf does that mean?03:13
ekim\the reason im using kubuntu is for some reason ubuntu wouldent boot03:13
ekim\really frustrating03:13
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CheeseBurgerMan!includes03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about includes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
ekim\Can sombody please help me ?03:15
MotorCityMadMann00btard: x-dev03:15
CheeseBurgerManHmm, maybe not.03:15
CheeseBurgerMan!xincludes03:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xincludes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:15
BonBonTheJon!x-dev03:15
CheeseBurgerManOh. It was just a lot of lag.03:16
ubotux-dev: dummy package for transition purposes. In component main, is optional. Version 7.0.4-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 32 kB03:16
ekim\Please ?03:16
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BonBonTheJonekim\: I'm trying to find an answer on the web site03:16
MotorCityMadMann00btard: or maybe libx11-dev03:16
Dr_willisyou mean the ubuntu live cd wouldent boot but the kuibuntu live cd would ?03:16
ekim\ O ok03:16
n00btardhmmmm03:17
ekim\ :)03:17
MotorCityMadMann00btard: or maybe kdebase-dev03:17
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BonBonTheJonekim\: if you can, try downloading the kubuntu alternative install cd03:17
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n00btardim confused..03:17
MotorCityMadMann00btard: just what are you trying to confiure ?03:17
n00btardwhy it is giving me this path error thing03:18
BonBonTheJon!x11-dev03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about x11-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
MotorCityMadMan<MotorCityMadMan> n00btard: just what are you trying to confiure ?03:18
n00btardwhen i select kdebase-dev for install it says "BREAK (install)" what does that mean?03:18
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n00btardim trying to build this program03:19
n00btardwith kdevelop03:19
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fateisajesteris there a gui for wine?03:19
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ekim\...you need one ?03:20
Dr_willisfateisajester,  a gui to do what? theres a config tool for wine with a gui.. but i hear its not  advised to use any more03:20
fateisajesterit would be nice03:20
ekim\erm ok03:20
Dr_willisdouble click on the .exe :) perhaps03:20
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fateisajesterreally?03:21
fateisajesterthat easy?03:21
Dr_williswhen i install stuff with wine. it puts icons for the programs in my kde menu03:21
larson9999Dr_willis, wine-tools?  i hear that too but i always do use it.  too many things that i can't get set up without it03:21
ekim\indeed03:21
fateisajesterlol03:21
Dr_willisfateisajester,  go find sol.exe and try.03:21
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olivierhi no body's asleep here?03:21
larson9999olivier, i am03:22
fateisajesteri am too03:22
olivierbien, je commence  tre un peu crev aussi moi :)03:22
ekim\nice03:22
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olivierenglish room?03:23
Dr_willis!fr03:23
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:23
Dr_willisWee. :)03:23
olivierthx03:23
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fateisajestergod i feel so stupid03:23
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fateisajesterlol03:23
olivierdoesn't matter03:23
n00btardhow do i fix this error? configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!03:23
Dr_willisn00btard,  fire up the package manager.. search for 'dev' and install anything that looks like X11 and dev :)03:24
n00btardok03:24
oliviergood night everybody03:24
Dr_willisapt-cache search x11 | grep dev03:24
Dr_willisgives me a few hits..03:24
larson9999still can't believe these dorks go to 13 year old girls' houses they met online looking for sex03:24
Dr_willisxlibs-dev - X Window System client library development files transitional package03:25
Dr_williswould be a start03:25
BonBonTheJonekim\: go to the console and type "dpkg -l | grep ubiquity", that should tell you if ubiquity is installed03:25
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Dr_willisibx11-dev - X11 client-side library (development headers)03:25
ekim\erm03:25
Dr_willisalso --------->  libx11-dev - X11 client-side library (development headers)03:25
ekim\what is ubiquity ?03:26
BonBonTheJonekim\: the live cd installer03:26
ekim\O03:26
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ekim\cool03:26
ekim\1 sec03:26
n00btardwtf, now i have this error...03:26
n00btardconfigure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!03:26
n00btardFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.03:26
BonBonTheJonekim\: then type "dpkg -L ubiquity" to find the files installed03:26
n00btardwhy the hell doesn't kdevelop install all this shit when i install the program?03:27
ekim\Cam you pm me this please03:27
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ekim\Hmm03:28
ekim\Weird03:28
ekim\it did nothing03:28
ekim\No errors or anything03:28
BonBonTheJonok03:28
ekim\Can I install it somehow03:28
ekim\ ?03:28
BonBonTheJonekim\: try "dpkg -L ubiquity"03:29
ekim\k03:29
ekim\Package ubiquity is not installed03:29
BonBonTheJonekim\: maybe this isn't dapper, in which case there is no installer, and you will need to download an install cd03:30
ekim\:(03:30
ekim\K03:30
ekim\Also one more question03:30
ekim\remember when I said ubuntu wouldent boot03:30
ekim\as apposed to kubuntu03:30
BonBonTheJonekim\: yeah03:30
ekim\Welll I found this boot floppy thing03:31
ekim\Right...03:31
ekim\Using a program called rawrite03:31
ekim\https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto03:31
ekim\problem is it only shows how to do it on windows03:31
ekim\is there a way to do it on linux03:31
BonBonTheJonekim\: that would be used if you can't boot from cd03:32
ekim\Yeah...03:32
ekim\Oh well03:32
ekim\IT will work for my purposes03:32
ekim\How do you do it on linux03:32
BonBonTheJonekim\: do you have bittorent? the download of a new cd should take only 10 minutes, then burn a new one03:32
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ekim\I just downloaded ubuntu03:33
ekim\...03:33
ekim\I wonder why it wont boot03:33
ekim\...it boots into this thing called somthing like DSC-DOS03:33
n00btardwhat does "BREAK (install)" mean in Adept?03:34
ekim\or DRD-DOS03:34
ekim\or somthign like that03:34
BonBonTheJonekim\: is the cd ok, you should be a check cd option on boot03:34
Dr_willisDR-DOS03:34
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Dr_willisIf your system is booting to DR-DOS - that tells me its booting the Hard drive.. not the cdrom. and some how you managed to have a dr-dos bootloader on the hd.03:34
ekim\I see03:35
ekim\...03:35
ekim\Thats it03:35
ekim\DR-dos03:35
ekim\anyways03:35
ekim\if I get to there is that bad03:35
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Dr_willis#1 check the cd.. what FILES are on the cd.. if theres Somthing.iso - you burnt it wrong03:35
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ekim\Indeed03:35
ekim\I thout so03:35
ekim\It was just ubuntu.iso03:35
ekim\...I knew somthing was amiss...03:35
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ekim\but the thing is ...I have burnt many isos before03:36
Dr_willisBingo! "You just made a coaster" :)03:36
ekim\and I specifially selected BOOTABLE iso03:36
ekim\...03:36
ekim\haha03:36
Dr_willisI always use 'burn at once ' under windows.. double click on an iso.. click burn and away it goes.03:36
ekim\Its ok03:36
ekim\I also effecrivley made a 20 cent coaster03:36
ekim\...I used nero03:36
Dr_willis20 cent? gesh.. buy in bulk man03:36
Dr_willisin nero i just use the burn iso image.. (i think) never select anything03:37
ekim\yeh I know ...03:37
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Dr_willisbeen ages since ive used nero03:37
ekim\I didnt need that many03:37
ekim\Dr_willis:  for good reason03:37
ekim\...03:37
ekim\ITs that ...it was already on the pc03:37
ekim\Ok03:37
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ekim\I knew somthing was wrong when all I saw was ubuntu.iso on the disk03:37
ekim\Ok03:38
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ekim\How long does it take for the ubuntu install03:38
larson999920 cents is cheap03:38
BonBonTheJonekim:\ 30 mins, maybe03:38
ekim\say on a 1ghz pc with a 52x cdrom03:38
ekim\256 megs of ram03:38
larson9999isn't it?03:38
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Dr_willis30min to an hr..03:38
ekim\That is reasonable hardware for ubuntu right03:39
Dr_willisram is a little low..03:39
ekim\...03:39
Dr_willisbut should work ok,03:39
ekim\:(03:39
ekim\I know03:39
ekim\but its not too bad right03:39
ekim\Is ubuntu more or less ramhungry than windows03:39
BonBonTheJonekim\: maybe look into xubuntu?03:39
ekim\nah03:39
Dr_willisMuch less hungry03:39
ekim\I REALLY REALLY like the ubuntu ui03:39
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ekim\metacity is my thing ;)03:39
BonBonTheJonekim\: ubuntu or kubuntu?03:39
ekim\Ubuntu03:40
Dr_willisthen why are you hanging in #kubuntu :)03:40
Dr_willislol03:40
ekim\Because im USING kubuntu now03:40
BonBonTheJonekim\: xubuntu does a lot of the same as ubuntu03:40
Dr_williswe make fun of Gnome users  in here! :)03:40
ekim\...I dont care03:40
ekim\...03:40
thompaive been trying gnome03:40
ekim\Kde is too shiny03:40
Dr_willisThe more i tried gnome... the more i hated it.03:40
ekim\why is that ?03:40
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thompahave used kde for about 5 years now03:40
Dr_willisGnome is too Dull. :)03:40
Dr_willishappy?03:41
ekim\Exactly03:41
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ekim\Kde is distracting to me03:41
Dr_willisactually many of the features i wanted/used were not in gnome.. apaently the Devs decided that the users are idiots and easially confused.03:41
ekim\I like the colors of gnome03:41
thompait depends for me, i dont like the way ubuntu has gnome, but that can change in some settings03:41
Dr_williscolors.. pffft.03:41
ekim\their warmer03:41
ekim\:)03:41
thompaalso you can run Konqueror in gnome03:41
BonBonTheJonekim\: you can change the colors03:42
ekim\Its not about the colors03:42
ekim\...03:42
Dr_willisfirst thing i do on a new system is be sure to have ubuntu and kubuntu and xubuntu desktops all installed.03:42
ekim\Its the whole design03:42
thompathe other theing you may want to try is just changing the kde desktop settings and panel.. have panel on top03:42
ekim\Ok03:42
ekim\here is a tough question (NOT) how can I burn an iso (CORRECTLY!!!!) in kubuntu03:43
Dr_willisGNOME guys keep changing their minds about wether to use the Browser filemanager system. or the spatial mode. :P   heh.. that was an amusing flamewar or 5 to read.03:43
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Dr_willisekim\,  with the live cd? Hmmm...03:43
BonBonTheJonekim\: use kb303:43
BonBonTheJon!kb303:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kb3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:43
Dr_willisekim\,  correct? you are now on the Kubuntu live cd?03:43
ekim\O ok03:43
BonBonTheJon!k3b03:43
thompafirst i dont like any log in sound, or the graphics03:43
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto03:43
ekim\I wasnt suer if k3b did images out of the box (so to speak)03:43
ekim\Cool03:43
Dr_willisbbl03:44
ekim\I love irc03:44
thompaif i put the debian blue background in gnome first, remove sound, add konquerer, but kubuntu is very minimal too03:44
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Simulacrahas anyone here had any luck getting the rt71 wireless drivers to work03:45
thomparight now i hope this upgrade fixes kubuntu edgy, make screens a little sluggish03:45
thompai think its the nvidia is not working03:46
Simulacraim also having trouble with VIA Deltachrome03:46
ekim\I am such an idiot03:46
thompaif you change in xorg.conf driver to vesa it always works03:46
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ekim\I just realized...I cant burn a cd ...because Im using the cd drive to run the OS03:46
ekim\gege03:46
ekim\hehe03:46
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BonBonTheJonlol03:46
ekim\Is there a k3b for windows ?03:46
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thompabut i am wondering what else is happening when there is a system upgrade that requires a reboot because of kernel03:47
ekim\Just curious03:47
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ekim\Looking for a good burning app03:47
Dave_WCan anybody help me troubleshoot/diagnose a dcc problem?03:47
ekim\dcc like irc dcc ?03:47
ekim\Ok later guys03:47
Dave_Wyes03:47
thompak3b was eating too much power too03:47
ekim\Ill be back in like 20 minutes .03:47
BonBonTheJonekim\: good luck03:47
thompaor maybe cause i got 300w only03:47
ekim\Hopefully with ubuntu installing :)03:47
ekim\thanks03:47
ekim\Ill be back03:47
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thompai did it once03:48
thompacant remember how, was in kanotix03:48
thompaim using that too and edubuntu03:49
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Torchedwhy did amarok just freeze my computer for half an hour?04:09
BonBonTheJonTorched: what were you doing with it04:10
Torchednothing04:10
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Torchedi loaded up a stream someone pasted04:10
BonBonTheJonTorched: what happened just before it crashed04:10
Torchedand it started building a collection in the background04:10
Torchedi didn't ask it to04:10
Torchedmeanwhile the computer ground to a halt while amarok built a collection04:11
Torchedthis took half an hour04:11
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BonBonTheJonTorched: you might want to ask around on #amarok04:12
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josh_!easysources04:23
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic04:23
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actinic5 or 6 Ubuntu books now out.  Any suggestions?04:35
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Dr_willisI got that Ubuntu Hacks - it has some nice info i dident know.04:41
Dr_willisProblem with Linux books - is you often waste your $$ on things that tell you stuff you allready know04:42
orkid__anyone care to help with an nvidia edgy problem?04:42
Dr_willisUbuntu Hacks helped me do a few things  I dident know about.04:42
Dr_willisorkid__,  heh ..  seems like that stuff either works... or wont work.04:42
orkid__root@ubuntu:~# modprobe nvidia04:43
orkid__FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia04:43
orkid__(prolly bad module version or somethin?)04:43
Hawkwindorkid__: If you're running Edgy, try in #Ubuntu+104:43
Dr_willischeck dmesg output.04:43
orkid__(everything's upto date...)04:43
orkid__Hawkwind: will do.04:43
actinichow about 'Ubuntu Unleashed" ?04:44
Dr_willisGoogle for book reviews i guess04:46
Dr_willisbooks for linux shouldent have a lot of pictures. :P04:47
actinici dunno, naked penguins turn me on :)04:47
Dr_willisEver see that Beer Comercial  with the Pengins in the zoo at closing time?04:48
actinicdon't think so04:49
Dr_willisTHey go behind a rock, and you see little Tuxcedos getting tossed all around.. then they come out all white.. with big beer guts and Speedo swim trunks on.04:49
Dr_willis:)04:49
actiniclol04:50
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Steven_Mhi all04:51
actiniclike that commercial where the guy & girl decide to skinny dip in what they think is a remote pond ... turns out to be a bar aquarium, lol04:51
Dr_willis:)04:52
Steven_Mdoes anyone know how to change kopete's typing area font size?04:53
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Steven_Mactinic: I wish I see that ad :)04:54
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actinicSteven_M: i wish i were the bartender! :)04:55
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Steven_Myeah hehe :)04:56
actinicoff to see season premier of Battlestar Galactica.  woohoo!04:56
Steven_Mactinic: which country are you from?04:56
actinicUS of A04:57
niroxxwhat time is it in your country?04:57
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niroxx@actinix04:57
actinictime to watch battlestar galactica04:57
niroxxactinic04:57
actiniclol, almost 8 pm ... Arizona04:57
niroxxarizona rocks ;)04:58
actinicyeah we've got alot of 'em :)04:58
actinicbye!04:58
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ranioa05:01
niroxxhi05:01
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raniohi05:01
niroxxi will sleep yet, good night05:02
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ranioI have some error with firefox05:02
raniohelp me05:02
niroxxwhich errors ?05:03
raniodownloaded firefox05:03
ranioand run ./firefox05:03
niroxxand ... ?05:03
ranio./run-mozilla.sh : line131: 6291 segmentation error05:04
ranio"$prog" ${1+"$@"}05:04
ranioso i can't run firefox05:04
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niroxxuh and the download was really finished ? md5 sum was correct ?05:05
ranioyes05:05
ranioi tried two times ,but same error05:05
ranioX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16805:06
ranioand this error05:06
niroxxhave you tried to download firefox of the kubuntu repos ?05:06
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raniono05:06
ranioI am beginner05:07
niroxxthan go to the console type in : "sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefox"05:07
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raniook.05:07
niroxxno problem, it will function05:07
sjg0120Can any one help me plz~05:08
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sjg0120plz tell me how to download codec for playing movie05:09
niroxxranio: does is work ?05:09
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llukahey there, anyone know how to get a jar file to open?05:09
niroxxdoes it work05:09
Dr_willis!w32codec05:09
raniowait plz05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
niroxxk05:09
Dr_willisHmm...05:09
Dr_willis!codec05:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:09
sjg0120thank you~05:09
Dr_willisStupid bot.05:09
Dr_willisI always go get the w32codecs from the mplayer homepage and install them manually.05:10
sjg0120oh i see05:10
sjg0120thank you for helping me05:10
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Dr_willisbut theres other ways to get it  if you set up the right repo.05:10
Dr_willisI jut cant rember the bot factoid.05:10
Dr_willisgo ask in #ubuntu05:10
KDEfanboylluka: java -jar FILE05:11
llukait give me error05:11
raniook ~!05:11
raniothanks05:11
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llukaException in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError05:11
niroxxno problem, good night05:11
ranioniroxx : thanks~05:11
niroxxranio: ;)05:11
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niroxxsee you05:11
KDEfanboylluka: a repository app?05:11
raniosee you~05:11
llukano just a jar file05:12
KDEfanboylluka: could be anyting from problem with the app, java version mismatch, or java interpreter (ie, official verson vs blackdown)05:13
llukai dont think any java apps work05:14
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KDEfanboylluka: even hello world?05:15
llukahow do i check the hello world05:15
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llukai just wanna play pac man lol05:15
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jasonhi05:15
jasoni need help05:16
jasonany helpers out thre???05:16
Dr_willisask a question and see.05:16
jasonok i want firefox05:16
jasoni have a default install of kubuntu05:16
jasoni cant figure out how to install it i figured it should be on the cd05:17
jasoni even tried an auto install script from the internet05:17
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jasonit seemed to work but05:17
Dr_willisHmm..  that add/remove programs icon dont have it in there?05:17
jasoni get an error when i try and launch it from command05:17
jasonits in there05:17
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jasoni think but it was greyed out05:17
jasonor that was java that was greyed05:18
Dr_willisjava is not needed..  i think. :)05:18
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jasonthe add/remove didnt have much to choose from05:18
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Dr_willisadd/rremove programs. -  'any suite' search for firefox.05:18
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jasonlet me try brb05:18
Dr_willislearn to use the tool. :P check the check box's and pull down menus05:18
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llukagot a jar file i can test that u think shoudl work?05:19
Dr_willis18422 packages are 'installable' :)05:19
jasonhey bud its in there but its greyed and uncheckable05:19
Dr_willisdid it ask for your password when you started it?05:19
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jasonyes05:20
Dr_willisthats odd..05:20
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jasoni dont think there are that many on mine05:20
jasonis there a file that pooooints to the package sources05:20
Dr_willis!apt-get05:20
jasonlike how do i tell it to look on the cd05:20
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:20
Dr_willisit pays to learn to use the apt system05:20
Dr_willisfirst thign i do is disable the cdrom as a source for software. i download it off the internet05:21
ejmthis channel must have a bot for troubleshooting? good, because I'm going to need one.05:21
Dr_willis!info firefox05:21
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB05:21
Dr_willisjason,  you SHOULD be able to do a 'sudo apt-get install firefox'05:21
jasonok dr let me try it05:21
Dr_willisof course ya should  proberly do a  'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  first. :P05:22
KDEfanboylluka: which java package do you have installed?05:22
ejmoops, I'm on the wrong channel. I should be on the mepis channel, not the kubuntu.05:22
jasonPackage firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:23
jasonwhats a good repo for apt\05:23
jasonwhats the official repo and where do i put it in my file05:23
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llukajava-common, java-gcj-compat, java-gcj-compat-dev, and i compiles the jre05:23
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llukathe general error seems to  be in finding the "thread in main" java.lang etc etc05:24
llukaeach time its slightly different05:24
llukabut it alwasy has the word 'main'05:24
jasonanyone know?05:24
ejmhow would I get my broadcom 4318 wifi to work on ubuntu 6?05:24
ejmI got it to work in the last version, 5.1005:25
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Dr_willisjason,   do a  'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade'  first perhaps05:25
Dr_willis!easysource05:25
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic05:25
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Dr_willisjason,  then perhaps use that source-o-matic page to generate a new sources.list Or use adept to enable the other repos.05:26
llukaheres another one05:26
llukaFailed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from myjar.jar05:26
jpiccolo_i have a question for you guys, how can i connect to another pcs xserver from a different pc that only has cli05:27
jasonsudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf05:27
jasoni dont even have gedit05:27
Dr_willisgedit is notpart of Kubuntu :P05:28
Dr_willisthats Ubuntu05:28
Dr_willistry kate05:28
Dr_willisor learn vi :)05:28
ejmkedit05:28
jpiccolo_mmmm vi05:28
Dr_willisejm,  :P if you say so.05:28
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Dr_willisfor once gnome and kde use a similer name?! that cant be!!05:28
ejmlol I'm actually using simplymepis.05:29
ejmI'd use ubuntu, but my wifi is messed up.05:29
Dr_williswillis@Audigy:~$ kedit05:29
Dr_willisbash: kedit: command not found05:29
Dr_willis:)05:29
Dr_willis!info kedit05:29
ubotukedit: basic text editor for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 116 kB, installed size 456 kB05:29
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Dr_willis!info kate05:29
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ubotukate: advanced text editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 754 kB, installed size 2164 kB05:29
ejmsweet...this bot is so much better than the susehelp bot on #suse.05:29
Dr_willissee... one is advanced... :P other is basic! :)05:30
Dr_willis!info kvim05:30
ubotuPackage kvim does not exist in any distro I know05:30
Dr_willisWtf!05:30
ejmlol05:30
KDEfanboylluka: hm, first thing i'd say is that you don't need to compile a jre since there are some available in the repository05:30
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Dr_willisBut i like.. have kvim installed..05:30
mabreauxvym05:30
llukawas giving me the same error before :/05:30
mabreaux?05:30
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KDEfanboylluka: since you're trying to run a non-repository app, you'll get more help on java-specific errors for it in #java05:31
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KDEfanboylluka: what error?05:31
llukathe manifesting main class05:31
llukaFailed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jar.jar05:31
method|would anyone like to test out this mp3 announcer script i made for konversation + amarok?05:31
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llukai reinstalled the repository apps tho05:32
M4X1MUMwhats the command to show the chmod of all files?05:33
jasonboys05:33
jasonit was because when i installed i had no internet connection05:33
jasonso it commented out my sources by defult05:34
jasonbecause  they "didnt verify"05:34
jasonor girls05:34
jasonwhoever05:34
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Manyfoldhow to activate hardware acceleration for my graphic card?05:38
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Dr_willisjason,  thats why ya should of enabled the repos with adept :)05:38
Dr_willisbut now ya know! and knowing is half the battle!05:39
Dr_willisI thought the add/remove programs tool - when first ran - asked to enable the different repos.. that may of been a  older version of it.05:39
jasonDr_willis: i just deleted the #05:39
jasonhow do i enable them with adept05:39
jasoni didnt see an option05:39
Dr_willisadept would just remove the #'s05:40
jpiccolo_is there a  way that i can have a xserver installed but not boot to it automatically? just stay at the command line and i can start it if i want to?05:40
Dr_willisadd/remove is a  more dumbed down interface.. adept has a repo thing  in the menus somewhere.. I perfer synaptic myself.05:40
jasoni didnt see anything about sources in adept05:40
Dr_willisdid you  run adept or dod you just run that 'add/remove programs' icon?05:40
jasonthe icon once i actually ran adept05:41
Dr_willisright now adept is dwnloading so i cant check the menus. :()05:41
jasonwhat r u running05:41
Dr_willis!adept05:41
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto05:41
jasonit cme default on kubuntu05:41
KDEfanboylluka: hm.. what instructions did you follow to install java?05:41
Dr_willisInstalling games at the moment with that 'add/remove programs' icon which i THINK is a 'adept in a light-user-interface mode'05:42
jpiccolo_whats the path to the gdm.conf05:42
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Dr_willislocate gdm.conf05:43
Dr_willisshould find it.05:43
llukai got hello world to werk05:43
jpiccolo_ok cool thanks05:43
llukabut pac man wont work still05:43
lluka:(05:43
llukanow its saying05:43
vaimacahi05:43
Dr_willis /etc/gdm/gdm.conf is one i see05:43
llukaexception  in thread..... at java.lang.Class.initializeClass(libgcj.so.7)05:44
jpiccolo_hrm nope05:44
Dr_williswhat pacman?05:44
jpiccolo_and located doesnt work either05:44
Dr_willisyour locate database may not be updated05:44
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Dr_willisYou do realize that this is KUBUNTU :P gdm is not installed by default in Kubuntu.05:45
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jpiccolo_oh haha\05:45
jpiccolo_yeah05:45
Dr_willis:)05:45
KDEfanboylluka: i'd recommoned making sure you have installed using Ubuntu's instructions. after doing that, since you're trying to run a non-repository app, you should check the docs for the app and try #java05:45
KDEfanboy!java > lluka05:45
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jpiccolo_Dr_willis, whats the kde version of gdm?05:46
Dr_williskdm05:46
Dr_willis:P05:46
Dr_willisthen a got the old xdm05:46
M4X1MUMguys whats the shortcut to minise windows?05:46
Dr_willisthen theres the PORN variant XXXdm05:46
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jpiccolo_ /var/lib/dpkg/info/kdm.config05:47
Dr_willisjpiccolo_,  that would be a package file/cache is my guess05:48
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KDEfanboyM4X1MUM: Control Center -> Rgional & Accessibility -> Keyboard Shortcuts. [Global Shortcuts]  -> System -> Windows -> Minimize Window05:48
Dr_willis      /etc/kde3/kdm05:48
Dr_willis   /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc05:49
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Dr_willisjpiccolo_,  you do realize thres a nice gui front end to configuring KDM. :)05:49
jpiccolo_i see, still kinda a nub05:49
jpiccolo_no i did not05:49
Dr_willisit pays to explore the control panel tools. :)05:50
Dr_willis'system settings' :) not control panel05:50
jpiccolo_hehe yeah05:50
jpiccolo_ha control panel05:50
Dr_willis'only the names have been changed.. to protect the lawyers'05:51
M4X1MUMthanks!05:51
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TheHighChildanyone pretty knowledgeable about the different glx things? I have a few questions about which is best for me05:52
Dr_willisYou dont want to hear my answers.. I HATE glx. :)05:52
TheHighChildI tried one configuration and it was horrible05:53
TheHighChildI just want a few of the effects, like desktop switching without pillaging my keyboard shortcuts05:53
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M4X1MUM!nvidia05:54
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:54
Dr_willisBlacken,  write a howto on it now! :)05:54
noiesmoBlacken, yeah buy a nvidia card05:54
BlackenDr_willis: I would, if I hadn't completely ballsed it from the beginning.05:54
M4X1MUMhow do i set the default internet browser??05:54
Dr_willisOh - one of those spent 4 hrs... learning to do a 3 min job? :P05:54
TheHighChildstart > system settings > KDE components (under personal) > Default applications05:55
BlackenDr_willis: Close. See...I didn't read carefully...and I installed the ATI package first *without* config'ing it for Ubuntu...AND then tried the apt-get linux-restricted-modules way...05:55
TheHighChildM4X1MUM:05:55
Dr_willisBlacken,  :P05:55
Blackennoiesmo: Find an nVidia laptop card that doesn't entirely, entirely suck AND is sold by Dell for the extremely awesome Inspiron E1X05 series of notebooks. Then I'll get an nVidia card. But I won't hold my breath.05:56
Dr_willisi can honestly say ive never used the ati installer under ubuntu05:56
Dr_willisNvidia based laptops can be rare.. sadly05:56
M4X1MUMaaah nice thanks05:56
TheHighChildnp05:56
BlackenDr_willis: It wasn't bad once I R'd TFH.05:56
Dr_willis:)05:57
noiesmoBlacken, fair enough, there should be more nvidia laptops05:57
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TheHighChildso no glx/xgl/aiglx freaks in here?05:57
Blackennoiesmo: Actually, no...no...there really shouldn't be. :P05:57
Dr_willisi was suprised when the ATI stuff worked for my x200m laptop05:57
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Dr_willisgee just wait for Intel to buy nvidia , and AMD to get ATI into shape...05:57
Dr_willisthen... where will matrox go?05:58
M4X1MUMglx freak?05:58
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M4X1MUMmy pc is amd with nvidia :)05:58
Dr_willisheck - where are they now?05:58
TheHighChildmeaning, someone that knows them and about them05:58
BlackenDr_willis: Where it belongs. Down with the nice chap with a pitchfork and pointy tail.05:58
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TheHighChildI can get the stuff working. I am not looking for someone to talk me through a process, just share their experience and see if I can get what I want out of it05:59
Dr_willisBlacken,  find a live cd with it - and play for an hr.. then dump it. :P05:59
BlackenAnd since I'm pretty sure that I probably won't like it (but want to try it anyway), I want to be able to roll back easily.05:59
BlackenDr_willis: LiveCDs suck...I want to experience using it on my normal stuff.05:59
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Dr_willisBlacken,  bah..  Live CD's Rock.06:00
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Dr_willissaved my Backside many a times.06:00
BlackenDr_willis: Knoppix is nice for that, sure. I meant for anything more than that.06:00
Dr_willisNot sure how legally some of these live cds are including the nvidia and ati drivers however... :)06:00
KDEfanboyDr_willis: which?06:00
Dr_willisI got a broke laptop - that runs SaxenOS :) it can even net-boot OTHER machines on the lan.06:00
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Dr_willisKDEfanboy,  i forget which one did it last week for me.. i test most of them in vmware. but one did have  the nvidia drivers06:01
Dr_willisUbuntu's live cd - is somewhat lacking in ways06:01
Dr_willisi found a Windows XP live cd the other day.. :) now thats scary06:01
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noiesmoDr_willis, bartpe 's not bad when you do need ntfs read/write support otherwise give me a knoppix disk anyday06:02
Dr_willisbelenix0.5.iso  deli-0.7.iso  DLxfce2.1_WORKS_060920-en.iso  Elive_Revolution.iso06:02
Dr_willisHmm.. i THINK that elive_revolution livecd had the nvidia drivers on it.06:03
Dr_willisAccelerated-KNX-1.1_20060613.iso   - looked neat.. but the download took forever.. and then dident work. :()06:03
Dr_willisits supposed to be optmized to boot faster06:03
mabreauxYes Dr Willis that is very scary!06:04
TheHighChildDoesn't Xandros?06:04
TheHighChildor at least til they got sued06:04
flaccidwhat is the theme that kubuntu uses06:05
flaccidi can not select it again in kcontrol06:05
Dr_willisI was thinking Mepis or Xandros inclded them also.. but they got permission.06:05
Dr_willisflaccid,  no 'human' theme?06:05
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TheHighChildDr_willis: Permission? from whom? They were sued for violating the GPL, they'd have ahd to get a lot of permission.06:06
Dr_willisThey got the ok from nvidia and other companies. to include the nvidia drivers06:06
Dr_willisor are we talking about 2 different companies/things. :P06:06
Dr_willisI forget the details even.. heh06:06
flaccidno human theme06:06
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flaccidoh who did i ask in here about changing firefox font?06:07
Dr_willisflaccid,  isent Plastik the default theme? i06:07
flaccidlooks like you can in Appearance -> GTK styles and fonts06:07
jpiccolo_i remeber when walmart was selling pcs with lindows on them06:07
TheHighChildXandros was sued for violating the GPL by distributing a distro that included kernel level - closed source modules06:07
flaccidDr_willis: i got something else with my install06:07
Dr_willisflaccid,  pick one ya like. :P lol06:07
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BlackenI still wonder if it'd be possible to wrap all of that into the install process.06:07
flaccidthe one i like is the deafult one06:08
BlackenHave two CD's in the box. CD 1 is Linux, CD 2 has the restricted modules.06:08
Dr_willisBlacken,  i think thats how mepis does it.. not sure..06:08
BlackenIntegrate on-the-fly.06:08
BlackenDr_willis: I think so too.06:08
BlackenDr_willis: The legality is still suspect.06:08
Dr_willisi recall a big argument/flamwar over it  some months ago06:08
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Dr_willisI dont see much reason to use xandros over kubuntu , from what i am reading on the wiki pages :)06:14
noiesmohmmm gaim does not seem to want to log on to msn anyone else having these problems06:14
mabreaux?06:15
TheHighChildKubuntu > *06:15
TheHighChildgaim blows06:15
TheHighChildbut everything else blows more06:15
noiesmoTheHighChild, yeah so does msn but a couple mates are windows nuts so its easier to chat06:16
TheHighChildnoiesmo: You have to upgrade to 2.0.3 beta06:16
TheHighChildnoiesmo: 1.5 stopped working with MSN in August06:16
noiesmoTheHighChild, have done sys upgrade but will check gaim version cheers06:16
TheHighChildBetas will never be part of an upgrade to a release06:17
TheHighChildHave you tried Kopete?06:17
noiesmoTheHighChild, well there you go06:17
noiesmoTheHighChild, no will try it06:17
TheHighChild2.0 is ok, mostly the same but a lot less options, you have to edit your gtorc just to get contrl -enter to send06:17
TheHighChildgaim 2.0*, .gtkrc*06:18
noiesmoTheHighChild, well kopetes crap06:20
TheHighChildi know, the blue heads freak me out. I still use gaim, I just do so with disdain06:21
noiesmoTheHighChild, will get gaim beta06:21
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TheHighChildnoiesmo: http://bsiebens.wordpress.com/2006/08/23/gaim-20-beta-3/06:23
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noiesmoTheHighChild, cheers already downloading06:24
TheHighChildnoiesmo: excellent, don't get your hopes up, there's nothing much done  to the UI and a ton of features removed. I can only presume the guts are what's being worked on.06:25
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noiesmoTheHighChild, don't worry I won't all I wants basic chat anyway06:25
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TheHighChildnoiesmo: Cool, if you need any setup assistance, let me know06:26
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noiesmoTheHighChild, thanks06:27
Praki have a question about whether a laptop driver that's written for windows xp environment would work in kubuntu using an emulator06:27
turtletimeHi all, I'm thinking about installing kubuntu as a LAMP/Personal Dev Machine.  Can anyone point me to a package list for ubuntu/kubuntu? Is it basically debian packages or what? I'm looking for something like freshports.org for freebsd or http://www.gentoo-portage.com/ for gentoo... Anyone got anthing?06:28
turtletimeNevermind...google helped me :)06:29
TheHighChildPrak: Unlikely unless you're talking about wireless. In that case, ndiswrapper will do that06:29
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Praki'm using an acer travelmate 2300 laptop right now06:31
Praki would like to retain the launch manager and the eSettings feature where i can control my fan to turn on all the time06:32
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Prakin ubuntu06:33
TheHighChildPrak: I don't know of anything and am doubtful you'll find an emulator, however, there are probably some hacks out there to do the same things06:34
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Prakok06:34
Prakprobably hold it off for now then06:34
Prakthanks06:34
BonBonTheJon /msg nickserv link BonBonTheJon 206467906:35
Jucatouh oh....06:35
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flaccidso where to get the kubuntu default kde theme from?06:38
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BonBonTheJonflaccid: what do you mean06:38
Jucatoflaccid: what do you mean?06:38
flaccidwhen i installed kubuntu it had a different kde theme06:39
flaccidit is not in the list of themes06:39
flaccidand i want to go back to it06:39
JucatoIn Dapper? the default color scheme is "Kubuntu Colors", the default window decoration is Crystal, default icon set is Crystal SVG, default style (not 100% sure) is Lipstik06:40
flaccidyes dapper06:40
flaccidw0a so a theme was never made?06:40
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Jucatoflaccid: KDE themes are handled differently from how Windows handles themes06:41
flaccidi don't use windows06:41
flaccidbut a theme could be created to apply those styles could it not?06:41
Jucatoor GNOME for that matter :)06:41
BonBonTheJonflaccid: Plastik theme is close to the default kubuntu them06:42
flaccidwhy do you assume i'm a windows user?06:42
Jucatoflaccid: well it could, except that KDE Theme Manager is a bit gimped06:42
flaccidPlastik doesn't use the crysal window dec06:42
Jucatoflaccid: I'm not assuming. I'm just stating a fact06:42
Arepiei've installed my ATI driver.. but.. there's an error..06:42
flaccidlol that fact didn't help :)06:42
ArepieError: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!06:42
Jucatoflaccid: Plastik is a widget style. you can use it with any window decorator06:42
Jucatodecoration06:42
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june!ntfs06:43
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Jucatoflaccid: afaik, Kubuntu doesn't use the "KDE Theme Manager" (.kth files) as much as possible06:43
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flaccidbasically my point is if someone wants to go back to kubuntu 'factory default' theme, there is no 1-click06:43
Jucatothat's why it's not even in System Settings (but it is in KControl)06:43
Jucatoooh hybrid!06:43
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flaccidbut i appreciate you knowing the dapper components to change individually06:44
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flaccidi'm back to normal now..06:44
Jucatoflaccid: true. but you see, .kth files (KDE Theme Manager) only works if and only if *all* the components of the theme is already installed06:44
Cyraqwow, ssh is fast today.06:44
flaccidJucato: thats ok, because by default they are06:44
Jucatoit doesn't automatically install/download those themes if needed06:44
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flaccidbut the themes it needs are installed :)06:45
flaccidyou would have to uninstall them06:45
Jucatotrue. but since KDE Theme Manager isn't in System Settings, it's a bit pointless to have a .kth file for the Kubuntu theme. imho06:46
BonBonTheJonwhat is the default media player in kubuntu? isn't it kaffeine?06:47
JucatoBonBonTheJon: Kaffeine for video, Amarok for audio, KsCD for Audio CD's06:48
Jucatobut Kaffeine can do all of those, too. @_@06:48
BonBonTheJonJucato: thanks, I've been using kmplayer, but I don't like it06:48
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Ademanwhen i try to open a word *.doc all it displays is "Your browser does not support frames" what should I do?06:55
JucatoAdeman: can you right-click on it and select Open With OpenOffice?06:56
Ademanoh, yeah its being opened with open office06:56
flaccid!fat3206:57
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Jucatoit's OpenOffice that's giving that error message?06:57
flaccidprogram to scan fat32 partitions for errors?06:57
Parkotronflaccid: fsck.vfat, I think.06:58
flaccidmad thanks06:58
AdemanJucato: no, its actually in the editing area06:59
Jucatomaybe that's all that it contains?06:59
Ademannope06:59
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Ademanopened it with kate06:59
Ademantheres a LOT more07:00
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Arepiewhat does this mean? -> "Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!"07:00
Jucatohm.. strange indeed...07:00
AdemanArepie: do you have your graphics divers?07:00
Ademandrivers*07:00
Arepieyes.. i've installed it07:00
Arepiei just install the new ATI driver07:01
flaccidsweet that works good07:01
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AdemanArepie: go to the console and do glxinfo, paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:01
ArepieAdeman: hold on07:01
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AdemanJucato: yeah, one of the lines i saw in kate was MicrosoftOffice.8  is it possible its an unsupported format?07:02
ArepieAdeman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25883/07:02
Jucatothat I wouldn't know...  haven't touched an MS Word document in a looooooong time...07:02
DaSkreechJucato: cooties?07:03
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JucatoDaSkreech: nah. I just haven't had done any heavy duty word processing in years :)07:03
DaSkreechWimp :)07:04
Jucatolol07:04
DaSkreechReal men Process :)07:04
Jucatowimp? I use Kate for my document needs, and mostly save in HTML format/code :P07:04
arunkaleJucato: Why does Kate add those damn dots after each word07:04
Jucatoarunkale: not sure why. it's a setting I guess, for the benefit of programmers? not really sure07:05
Ademanits to signify a tab07:05
Ademanthere's a way to turn it off07:05
arunkaleOkay...07:05
Ademangimme a sec07:05
arunkaleIs there any way to get rid of those? :)07:05
JucatoSettings > Configure Kate > Editor group > Appearance > uncheck Show Indentation Lines?  (not 100% sure)07:06
arunkaleokay..07:07
arunkalewill try it07:07
arunkalebtw, i cant wait for edgy this month07:07
DaSkreecharunkale: Poll time :)07:07
mabreauxanyone know when it is due to be released?07:07
DaSkreecharunkale: What are you interested in for edgy?07:08
DaSkreech!schedule07:08
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule07:08
arunkaleThe looks07:08
DaSkreech:-)07:08
Jucatomabreaux: Oct 26 if all goes well07:08
arunkaleJucato: Show Indentation Lines is already unchecked07:08
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Jucatoarunkale: hm.. I'll go looking again :)07:08
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arunkaleWhat's Xen07:09
TheHighChildanyone use 3ddesktop?07:09
JucatoTheHighChild: I do07:09
TheHighChildJucato: their site is skimpy, does it provide anything outside of the desktop switching? Is there a keyboard shortcut for it?07:10
DaSkreechhttp://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7221&stc=1&thumb=1&d=113494105007:10
DaSkreech:-D07:11
JucatoTheHighChild: well it's pure desktop switching, but there are different modes/styles of switching. you'd have to make your own keyboard shortcut for it07:11
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TheHighChildJucato: ok, thanks07:11
JucatoTheHighChild: man:/3ddesk (in Konqueror) gives a bit more detail07:11
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=== DaSkreech wants more games for LInux :(
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TheHighChildDaSkreech: You play Enemy Territory? If so, you have to try the No Quarter mod, a couple friends made it. Totally revived the game.07:13
Jucatoarunkale: I'm baffled, I can't seem to see the setting. what version of Kate are you using btw?07:13
arunkaleKate 2.5.207:13
DaSkreechTheHighChild: What's it do?07:13
Jucatoarunkale: hm.. probably they removed it in 2.5.4... I'm not sure...07:14
TheHighChildDaSkreech: New weapons, much better admin interface, some new skins and animations, lots of new features like CPR and 9 levels per class.07:14
DaSkreechHmmm :-)07:15
arunkaleWhere's that link with the Edgy screenshots07:15
arunkaleWhat are the major differences in the looks?07:15
arunkaleand other functions07:15
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AdemanArepie: sorry i was afk, doesnt sound like you installed them right07:16
Ademaneither that or you may need to edit your xorg.conf07:16
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Arepiehow to edit my xorg.conf ?07:17
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wrabbit^sudo gedit /sbin/xorg.conf07:17
wrabbit^I think that's the path07:17
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wrabbit^ouchy07:17
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Jucatoarunkale: the "looks" may or may not be final yet. but as of Knot 3 (Alpha) they have this: http://jucato.multiply.com/photos/album/24 | for Beta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyEft/Beta/Kubuntu and http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/screenshots/index.php?linux_distribution=Kubuntu%206.10%20Beta07:17
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JucatoArepie: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:18
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wrabbit^aww07:18
wrabbit^same thing07:18
Jucatowhat same thing?07:18
wrabbit^ksame kthing07:18
Jucatogedit is not installed on Kubuntu, so it would give him an error07:18
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Jucatothere is no /sbin/xorg.conf file, that would also give him an error07:19
wrabbit^ah alright.  I have ubuntu with the kde desktop.  Didn't realise they were different07:19
Jucatoas for using sudo to launch gedit/kate...07:19
DaSkreechand you don't sudo graphical apps07:19
Jucato!kdesu07:19
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:19
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Jucatohey leave some for me!! :)07:20
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DaSkreechwrabbit^: Well now you have won half the battle :)07:20
Jucatolol... G.I. Joe :)07:20
wrabbit^DaSkreech, There's a battle?07:21
Jucato"So now you know! And knowing is half the battle." - G.I. Joe07:21
wrabbit^ah right... I was more of a TMNT guy07:21
Jucatoheh. cowabunga?07:21
Jucato(how do you spell that anyway?!?! lol!)07:22
DaSkreechAs long as it has cow in it it's right07:22
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DaSkreechwrabbit^: Seen the new movie?07:22
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wrabbit^DaSkreech: It's not even out yet, is it?07:23
DaSkreechNo07:23
wrabbit^DaSkreech, Then no07:23
DaSkreech And John Woo isn't directing it any more :(07:23
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maryenthe power display in edgy freezes sometimes, how would i bug report it07:23
wrabbit^DaSkreech: any idea who is? I lost touch with the shell heads a while back07:23
DaSkreechfilmforce.ign.com shouldn't let you down :)07:24
maryenyou guys should upgrade to edgy07:25
maryenyou can play flash movies in firefox without any problems at all07:25
arunkalewhy is that right click dialog box for flash movies so ugly07:25
Jucatohm... I very rarely have problems with Flash movies in Konqi on Dapper...07:26
DaSkreechFlash9 Should be out soon :)07:26
Jucatoarunkale: GTK1 I think07:26
maryendunno, because macromedia now adobe sucks07:26
JucatoDaSkreech: soon as in next year :P07:26
DaSkreechNext year is soon07:26
DaSkreech Ask any Microsoft Exec07:26
Jucatohah! Next decade is soon for MS :P07:26
wrabbit^Is there a way to "repair and clean" my installation without having to a) reinstall and b)lose the saved stuff in /home/username?07:27
arunkalekubuntu edgy looks all web 2.007:27
DaSkreechWhereas whenever KDE4 comes out it's too Damn long >_<07:27
maryensound always runs in flash on edgy unless you are actually running a sound atm, like playing music in amarok07:27
Jucatoarunkale: really? could you please define what web 2.0 is or looks like?07:27
DaSkreechwrabbit^: is home on it's own parition07:27
maryenill have you take that back arunkale07:27
arunkalehaha okay, i'll take that back07:28
wrabbit^DaSkreech: I'm pretty sure it isn't.  It was a default installation07:28
arunkalei just meant the gloss07:28
maryenah07:28
DaSkreechA well consider doing that at some point :)07:28
maryenit is kinda glossy07:28
maryenbut i like it07:28
DaSkreechWhat's the problem with your install?07:28
mabreauxwhen edgy comes out is there a system update proceedure or do you have to save and reformat?07:28
maryenplus fonts look a lot better, and everything is awesome07:28
Jucatoheh since when did glossy = web 2.0? :P07:28
DaSkreech!upgrade07:28
ubotuUpgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes07:28
arunkalemaryen: my fonts render like os x anyway07:29
Jucatomabreaux: you can just upgrade if you want to07:29
DaSkreechEveryone says that07:29
DaSkreech what does that mean?07:29
wrabbit^DaSkreech: No problems.  I'd just like to get rid of alot of crap and start over.  It's my first time on linux so now that everything is the way I like it, I had to go through alot of crap to get here07:29
maryenmabreaux, you just need to alter your repos to edgy ones and then do apt-get dist-upgrade07:29
wrabbit^Clean is good07:29
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DaSkreechSooooo you want to get rid of all the work you did to get to the point of it being good?07:29
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maryendoes apt in dapper have autoremove?07:30
pierre_hello07:30
maryeni forget07:30
maryenhi07:30
Jucatomaryen: no07:30
pierre_i am looking for a great notebook solution - like onenote from ms... something compareable?07:30
maryen:/07:30
maryenonenote?07:30
Jucatomaryen: but then again,there's aptitude :)07:30
unix_infidelpierre_: you're running a tablet on Kubuntu?07:31
arunkaleWhat are the major functional differences between Edgy and Dapper?07:31
wrabbit^DaSkreech, I know it sounds wierd but yeah.07:31
maryenknotes?07:31
maryenjournal in kontact07:31
pierre_no - but i like onenote for my notes07:31
DaSkreechunix_infidel: May want to invert that question07:31
Jucatoarunkale: more recent kernel, more recent KDE, more recent version of some apps07:31
unix_infidelDaSkreech: just woke up :)07:31
wrabbit^DaSkreech: I won't learn anything otherwise.  First off, I'd like to get rid of automatix.  That thing did alot for me and I haven't learnt anything in the process.07:31
arunkaleJucato: ah, okay07:31
DaSkreechunix_infidel: Just going to bed07:31
maryenarunkale: apt has autoremove and can recognize when packages are no longer needed07:31
Jucatoarunkale: new init system (upstart), new looks for System Settings, new themes07:31
DaSkreechwrabbit^: Ha ha wise choice07:32
unix_infideli find VIM a better system for taking notes than onenote honestly.07:32
arunkalecool07:32
maryenarunkale: powermanagement is better07:32
DaSkreechwrabbit^: What do you have in ~?07:32
maryenarunkale: alot better07:32
pierre_knotes and journal are both not convincing for me... i like the tab and structure in onenote07:32
Jucatomaryen: have you tried removing something installed with kubuntu-desktop yet?07:32
maryenhmm?07:32
unix_infidelpierre_: if you just need tabs, vim+screen :P07:32
wrabbit^DaSkreech: -?07:32
maryennot yet, why?07:32
JucatoKontact's Journal is a.. joke... :(07:32
TheHighChildlol07:32
unix_infidelor a multitabbed $TERM with VIM07:32
DaSkreech~ == $HOME07:32
JucatoKNotes in Kontact is a bit.. er...07:32
arunkaleJucato: look what I came across on google search.. 'Jucato's Data Core'07:33
Jucatoarunkale: Wordpress or Multiply? :P07:33
wrabbit^DaSkreech, ahh.  Just PDF files, python stuff and other misc. mp3 podcast episodes.07:33
maryenare you talking about the suggested apps jucato?07:33
arunkaleMultiply07:33
DaSkreecharunkale: While searching for Jessica alba no doubt07:33
wrabbit^DaSkreech, I could always burn em07:33
arunkaleyou're on Wordpress too?07:33
arunkalehaha07:33
Jucatoarunkale: *was*...07:33
TheHighChildI think Knotes rock. Ufortunately Outlook (although very crappy) is still better than Kontact07:33
pierre_unix_infidel - no that doesnt work so fine for me07:33
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pierre_hehe07:33
DaSkreechwrabbit^: sure if you don't have a spare hard drive somewhere07:33
maryeni love kontact07:33
DaSkreechwrabbit^: When reinstalling make a parition for /home07:34
JucatoTheHighChild: yeah KNotes is good as a standalone app. but when you use it with Kontact.. it just isn't....07:34
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arunkalei'm just upset i cant use xgl/compiz07:34
maryenarunkale: oh yeah, the open source drivers for video cards are much much better07:34
TheHighChildI like Kmail alot it's just not a very good client if you have to migrate a lot of mail07:34
DaSkreechpierre_: What do you like about onenote?07:34
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wrabbit^DaSkreech: alright.  Shouldn't be too hard.  I'll burn and give it a try now.  Once my installation for Ubuntu is done, I just have to sudo apt-get kde-desktop right?07:34
maryenarunkale: plus easy beryl usage07:34
unix_infideldoes kmail handle outlook imports?07:34
TheHighChildJucato: That's how I feela bout the entire Suite07:34
DaSkreechwrabbit^: Umm ok :)07:34
arunkalemaryen: what's beryl07:35
DaSkreech wrabbit^: You want KDE and Gnome?07:35
pierre_the tab structure... and the possibilite to organize all notes very well - fast and simple07:35
TheHighChildapt-get install07:35
wrabbit^DaSkreech, Just KDE07:35
pierre_i like "memoranda" looks very good, but i cant install... get always error07:35
DaSkreechwrabbit^: Why don't you just use a kubuntu Cd?07:35
Jucatomaryen: if you try to remove one of the default apps installed, it will try to remove almost everything07:35
wrabbit^DaSkreech, I don't have one07:35
maryenarunkale: compiz forked and beryl is the community verion, with better kde support07:35
DaSkreechha ha which Ubuntu Cd do you have?07:35
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wrabbit^The latest07:36
maryenjucato: guh... -.0 they needa fix that07:36
wrabbit^6.06 LLTS07:36
wrabbit^=L07:36
DaSkreechmaryen: And even cooler is that KDE has better support for it :)07:36
arunkalemaryen: too bad i can't get this stuff.. i have an integrated video card07:36
DaSkreechwrabbit^: Sorry I meant Live or alternate?07:36
maryenintel card?07:36
arunkaleS3 Savage07:36
Linux_Galoreyeah s3 works07:36
DaSkreechJucato: My friend wants to build an AIGLX Ubuntu Live Cd07:36
JucatoI hope KNotes become as good as Tomboy someday... :(07:36
maryenarunkale: it might work, the open source ati drivers in edgy now have 3d acceleration07:37
mike__hello would a snes emulator need to be  ran in wine or should it start right in a file manager?07:37
DaSkreechIt's a S3 mobo he has as well07:37
Linux_Galorearunkale: no good for heavy stuff like XGL though07:37
arunkaleI need to get a new computer, but doesn't look like I'm going to be able to afford it anytime soon07:37
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maryenmike_: apt-get zsnes07:37
wrabbit^DaSkreech, it's the live/install cd07:37
maryenmike_: er apt-get install zsnes07:37
Jucatomike__: there's zsnes07:37
wrabbit^it was sent07:37
DaSkreech>_<07:37
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mike__ok thanks all will try07:37
DaSkreechAnd you didn't get a Alternate Cd?07:37
maryennot that i use zsnes to play illegal games07:37
wrabbit^DaSkreech, Not that I know of07:38
mike__maryen I didn't make that assumption07:38
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maryenhopefully beryl will get cleaned up and faster07:38
DaSkreechmaryen: It's open source so .... Duh!07:38
maryendaskreech: hush07:39
DaSkreechPLus it's totally useless Bling so lots of people will jump on it :)07:39
maryenactually i would think if properly programmed it could speed up your desktop by using your gpu to draw rather than the processor07:39
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arunkalehas anyone heard the new audioslave? it's f***in awesome07:40
DaSkreechmaryen: http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/knoware.html07:40
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maryenthats an awesome project07:41
Jucatoarunkale: a new one? it's been there for almost like ages07:41
maryenand definitely needs to be done07:41
arunkalerevelations?07:41
Jucatoaudiocd:/07:41
maryenthen we can put those gnome users in their place once and for all07:41
arunkalei dont get how people prefer gnome over kde07:42
DaSkreechmaryen: It's in SVN :)07:42
DaSkreechCourse no one is working on it :-P07:43
Jucatoarunkale: two words: personal preference07:43
DaSkreechHasn't been touched in 8 months07:43
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DaSkreechSame way they prefer windows over * and fish over an interesting pet07:43
mike__when I try to run that apt get Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied) Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?07:43
maryenbah07:43
pierre_pierre@pg:~/Desktop/MemorandaSWT$ sudo sh MemorandaSWT.sh07:43
pierre_/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_01/bin/java -cp :./build/*.jar:./lib/*.jar:./lib/gtk/*.jar:./lib/jface/*.jar -Djava.library.path=./lib/gtk net.sf.memoranda.ui.swt.AppMain ''07:43
pierre_MemorandaSWT.sh: line 22: /usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_01/bin/java: No such file or directory07:43
DaSkreechmaryen: Interested in helping out?07:43
pierre_ups sorry :-)07:44
maryenyou need to run sudo apt-get install zsnes mike_07:44
maryensudo gives you admin priveledges07:44
Jucatomike__: "sudo apt-get install <packagename>"07:44
mike__k will try07:44
pierre_i always get that message ... how can i solve that problem? cause java is installed and working fine...07:44
maryendaskreech: i don't know how to program07:44
DaSkreechI don't recall seeing anything about that in my question :)07:45
maryenwell ya i am07:45
Jucatocontribute/help out != programming07:45
DaSkreechPreach Jucato!!07:45
Jucato:P07:45
Jucatono I'm not in a preachy mood today heh07:45
Cyraqhttp://tinyurl.com/h4q5b and http://tinyurl.com/hjcjs - please help me decide everyone07:46
pierre_please anyone help me with that problem : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25884/07:46
DaSkreechWell there are tow things needed to get this back up. one is the original authour whom I'm trying to work on and the otehr is public outcry :)07:46
arunkaleman, i really need to use internet radio.. and i found this great app, but unfortunately it requires Java and Tomcat, and Dreamhost doesn't allow for servlets to be installed07:46
Jucatowow so many links to click!!07:46
JucatoDaSkreech: you're trying to work on the original author?07:47
unix_infidelarunkale: bebo?07:47
maryenpublic outcry07:47
DaSkreechYeah he's very shrewd about hiding who he is and any reference to get in contact with him but I think I've tickled the surface07:47
DaSkreech still hasn't responded to me though07:47
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DaSkreechHe's still working on open source stuff just shifted interests07:48
maryenah07:48
pierre_come on:-) small help for me07:48
DaSkreechI wouldn't mind a set of good docs though to start going and a blessing from him07:48
arunkalebebo?07:48
Jucatopierre_: what version of Java did you install? Sun Java?07:48
DaSkreechmaryen: Got a blog?07:48
pierre_japp07:49
maryennope07:49
DaSkreechhttp://blog.case.edu/bmb12/2005/07/knoware_interface07:49
Jucatopierre_: japp?07:49
pierre_yes07:49
Jucatoaah07:49
pierre_hehe sorry07:49
Jucatopierre_: did you follow the step to set the Default Java version?07:49
arunkaleunix_infidel: what's bebo07:49
pierre_hm i guess not :-)07:49
unix_infidelnevermind, misread.07:50
Jucatopierre_: do that (it's in the Java wiki)07:50
DaSkreechJucato: Of course the funn thing is that Edgy has a optional hardware database :)07:50
DaSkreechwhich plays right into Knoware's hand07:50
Manyfoldi get no sound from amarok and kaffeine system sounds work07:50
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DaSkreech which plays right in to KDE's hand :)07:50
maryeni was about to say that07:50
JucatoDaSkreech: well, it's not optional in the sense that it's installed by default :P07:50
DaSkreechJucato: No it's optional the way knoware is optional07:50
Manyfoldalso glx is extremely slow07:50
JucatoManyfold: trying to play MP3's?07:50
Manyfoldyes and dvb07:51
DaSkreechYou choose to add your specs to the global knowledge07:51
maryenthe hardware database could give you a list of reported problems and solutions to your hardware07:51
Manyfoldi get the tv image but not the sound07:51
JucatoDaSkreech: yeah I know that part :)07:51
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arunkaleanyone know any good internet radio/streaming solutions for linux? something where i can just stream songs from my server?07:51
JucatoManyfold: you need to install libxine-extracodecs for MP3 playback07:51
Jucato!mp3 > Manyfold07:51
pierre_Jucato - alright , try to find07:51
Jucato!java > pierre_07:52
ManyfoldPaket libxine-extracodecs ist nicht verfgbar, wird aber von einem anderen07:52
ManyfoldPaket referenziert. Das kann heien, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es veraltet07:52
Manyfoldist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfgbar ist.07:52
ManyfoldE: Paket libxine-extracodecs hat keinen Installationskandida07:52
JucatoManyfold: you need to enable the multiverse repository07:52
maryen!ge07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
maryen!german07:52
Jucato!multiverse07:52
Manyfoldwhere can i find that packet?07:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:53
JucatoManyfold: follow that guide ^^^^07:53
maryen!de07:53
Jucato(Repositories/Kubuntu)07:53
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:53
maryenyay i did it!07:53
Jucatomaryen: not really needed since he seems to be speaking fine english :)07:53
maryen:( dont take this away from me07:53
Jucatolol07:53
JucatoI'm cruel :P07:53
maryenhey jucato07:54
arunkaleanyone? internet radio/streaming?07:54
maryenis there a module list you can alter for modules to be loaded at start?07:54
flaccidarunkale: what is your question?07:55
maryenamarok can do internet radio if i remember correctly07:55
Jucatomaryen: modules? not sure. services, probably System Settings > System Services ?07:55
DaSkreecharunkale: Eh?07:55
arunkalei want to be able to store some files on a remote server, and have the play list repeat all through the day07:56
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maryeni run ndiswrapper, and for some reason it didnt load this boot07:56
DaSkreecharunkale: You want to make a internet radio station?07:56
arunkaleYes07:56
DaSkreech!icecast07:56
maryennot a huge problem but a little inconvenient07:56
flaccidarunkale: icecast server07:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:56
DaSkreech!info icecast07:56
ubotuPackage icecast does not exist in any distro I know07:56
DaSkreechAbh07:56
DaSkreechBah07:56
maryenmaybe it needs a snack07:56
Jucatomaryen: you could probably try looking into System Services? not sure as I'm unfamiliar with ndiswrapper and modules...07:56
DaSkreechanyway icecast is what you are looking for07:56
maryen!botsnack07:56
ubotuYum!07:56
DaSkreechHa ha hahahahahahaha07:57
Jucato!icecast207:57
ubotuicecast2: Ogg Vorbis and MP3 streaming media server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.1-2 (dapper), package size 256 kB, installed size 720 kB07:57
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maryenlol07:57
arunkaleI've heard Icecast requires commandline access?07:57
maryeneh07:57
flaccidarunkale: correct. but there are guis07:57
arunkaleokay.. and i can use this from a remote server?07:57
maryeni probably updated something having to do with the kernel and it knocked it out of my modules07:57
flaccidarunkale: if you can run the process in shell07:58
arunkalewill people need winamp/xmms to listen to it? or is there anyway i can embed a player in a pop up window?07:58
Jucatomaryen: if you update the kernel, make sure that the linux-restricted-modules is updated/installed also07:58
arunkaleflaccid: I dont think I have shell access07:58
maryenthe module is running so its ok07:58
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flaccidyou can do .ogg and .mp3. client needs to support your stream format07:58
pierre_Jucato - i followed that steps, butgetting same message07:58
flaccidyou can embed with web there is many ways07:59
Jucatohm... strange...07:59
pierre_:-(08:00
pierre_another idea what to do?08:01
Jucatosorry none... :(08:01
pierre_i think the Memoranda.sh included the wrong programm dir for java...08:02
Jucatoprobably08:02
pierre_look - here ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25885/08:03
Jucatopierre_: I think the problem is that the .sh file is hardcoded to look for Java in a specific directory only08:04
pierre_anyway to install that program? :-(08:05
Jucatopierre_: just an experiment, you could edit that .sh file. make JAVA_PROGRAM_DIR point to where Sun Java is installed?08:05
pierre_i could try... how i know where my java is?08:05
Jucatopierre_: "update-alternatives --list java" and look for the line with "sun" in it. copy that line,  but only up to the "bin" word08:07
Jucatopierre_: on my system the path is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/08:07
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omarhi guys, do you know how to use rapidshare twise and repeatly without problem08:09
pierre_no sucess, but at least another message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25886/08:10
maryennevermind, sound was stolen from my flash08:11
maryendamn adobemedia08:11
Jucatohm... I think I made a boo boo :)08:11
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pierre_?08:12
Jucatopierre_: I think you need to install JDK, not just JRE08:12
Jucatosun-java5-jdk08:12
Jucatoerr pierre_08:12
Jucatoyeah you could try installing jdk and make the .sh file point to the jdk directory...08:13
pierre_hm ok i apt-get :-) lets se if it work aftewards08:13
pierre_oki doki i wil try that08:13
JucatoI hope so08:13
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wrabbitDaSkreech: Hey again.  Installing now.  I assigned three partitions.  One for / one for /home and one for swap.  Is that correct?08:17
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Schalkenwrabbit: yes. just make sure the one far swap is of type 'linux swap' and the / and /home partitions are either of type 'reiserfs' and 'ext3' or other supported filesystem.08:18
Schalkenfor*08:18
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Schalkenor*08:18
wrabbitSchalken: I think they were set like that by default08:18
Schalkenwrabbit: cool :D08:18
wrabbitIf it doesn't work, I'll just try again.  I still have my lappy :)08:18
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Schalkenin kubuntu, does the ubuntiquity installer still use Gtk?08:21
Schalkenubuquity* (is it?)08:22
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wrabbitSchalken: Looks like both filesystems are ReiserFS :08:23
wrabbitSwap partition just says filesystem: Memory Swap.  Is that bad?08:23
Schalkenwrabbit: either reiserfs or ext3 will work. the default is normally ext3, im using reiserfs.08:23
Schalkenwrabbit: no, as long as it works ;)08:24
wrabbitexcellent :)08:24
DaSkreechwrabbit: Yeah08:24
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Schalkenother than kubuntu, what do you consider to be the best kde-based distro?08:25
pierre_someone of you using "krita" ?08:25
wrabbitWell I'd like to try slackware at some point.  That has KDE by default doesn't it?08:25
pierre_i cant find the option to "skew" a picture08:25
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axeli think slackware is the best for server ,but ubuntu best for  home desktop + this very stable old debian engeine :)08:28
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Schalkendoes kubuntu come with gimp?08:30
Schalkenor only kde/qt apps?08:30
pierre_Schalken - as far i can see gimp is not included.. the kde "gimp" is "krita"08:30
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Schalkenpierre_: okay, is krita as good?08:30
pierre_i dont know... i use photoshop08:31
axellol08:31
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Schalkenlol okay is it as good as photoshop?08:31
pierre_no - if so - i wouldnt use photoshop08:31
pierre_i guess its still in developing...08:31
Schalkenyeah08:32
Schalkengimp is nice though08:32
pierre_didnt try gimp long time - big chances happend :-) ?08:32
Schalkenchances?08:32
pierre_:-) changes :-)08:33
Schalkenoh08:33
wrabbitI'm gonna test this partition installation by reinstalling again :P  I've created /home/hi If it's there after this, I'm happy08:33
Schalkennot sure but its definately in a powerful state08:33
Schalken(gimp i mean)08:33
pierre_maybe i should try out again08:34
pierre_its faster than photoshop -right?08:35
arunkalepierre_: get gimpshop08:37
arunkaleit's gimp with an interface that's almost identical to photoshop08:37
pierre_ok i will try that one08:38
pierre_actually i am still downloading photoshop 7... its running with crossoveroffice... so i have time to try out gimp one more time08:38
wrabbithas anybody here tried a BSD?08:38
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pierre_i have abig problem with stupid openoffice... all fonts are changed to 14Minutes font... and i cant change it back ...08:41
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flaccid_where can i find the correct fstab entry for automount of an optical drive08:45
unix_infideloptical drive?08:46
flaccid_a dvd writer actually08:46
unix_infidelflaccid_: you must've irc'd into the past.08:46
cvgcomo configuto itc pasra inforchat08:46
cvgconfiguro08:46
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flaccid_pardon08:47
flaccid_!cdrom08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
unix_infidelflaccid_: its pretty much the same syntax for all drives08:47
flaccid_!cd08:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:47
flaccid_i got /dev/hdb       /media/cdrom1   auto            user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid                                0       008:48
flaccid_but then there is /dev/scd0      /media/cdrom0   iso9660,udf     user,atime,noauto,rw,dev,exec,suid                              0       008:48
axelok i have like this:)   dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       008:49
axeland it works08:49
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flaccid_ok08:50
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flaccid_the auto one returns mount: you must specify the filesystem type08:50
flaccid_dunno how it got there08:50
wrabbitwoo hoo! It worked :D08:50
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axelu have 2 hda(windows) and hdb(pinguin) ,or only hda(linx) ,hdc for cd i have like this08:53
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axel!ping08:56
ubotuping: connection timeout08:56
unix_infidelanyone know how i can go past the 10th window in xchat with the alt+num keybinds.08:56
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axeli dont know i use konversation08:57
axelits very simple08:58
axelthe most handy can by irssi but dont know all commands yet08:59
unix_infidelyea, i use irssi, but i'm limited to xchat at the moment.08:59
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AWOSDevPlease help me, I need to reinstall kdefilepicker but don't know which package to reinstall.09:08
AWOSDevWhich package?09:08
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AWOSDevMy kdefilepicker is broke, it won't display half of the files in my folders.09:10
DHGEAWOSDev: try some other views, experiment with the pixel width (in options)09:12
AWOSDevI tried09:12
pierre_Jucato - how to find the location of my newley installed java5-jdk?09:12
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pierre_Jucato - how to find the location of my newley installed java5-jdk?09:12
Jucatopierre_: it doesn't show up in update-alternatives ?09:13
pierre_/usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.109:13
pierre_/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java09:13
pierre_no09:13
AWOSDevsecond one09:14
pierre_but thats not the jdk folder ... right?09:14
JucatoI don't think so. maybe there's a jdk folder under /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/ ?09:14
DHGEpierre_: locate is your friend09:15
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AWOSDevlocate jdk09:15
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pierre_locate jdk gives me nothin09:17
KDEfanboypierre did you install a jdk package?09:18
AWOSDevjava5-jdk he says09:18
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pierre_yes i made apt-get install java5-jdk09:19
pierre_and its finished09:19
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pierre_:-)09:19
pierre_thanks09:19
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KDEfanboypierre find the app in adept, click details -> installed files09:21
KDEfanboyor dpkg -L <package>09:21
Jucatothat works too :)09:21
pierre_:-O09:22
pierre_not installed he said :-(09:22
Jucato?09:22
Jucatook that's just weird then09:22
pierre_i ake a look to adept09:22
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pierre_should be /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin09:24
Jucatofor jdk?09:25
pierre_thats what i find in adept09:25
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Jucatopierre_: try it09:26
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pierre_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25887/ :-((((((((((((((((((((09:29
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Jucatoum.. I'm now clueless... :(09:30
pierre_stupid ... thats the big problem with linux... its too hard sometimes09:30
pierre_even easy things doesnt work easy09:30
Jucatomaybe the problem is with the package, not with Linux... oh well...09:31
Jucatosorry09:31
pierre_hihi09:31
pierre_Jucato - thanks for your help anyway09:31
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pierre_how about taht message? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25888/09:34
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cox377Hello all, i was playing a number of home made videos last night using Mplayer and tried vlc  , every time i opened a new video and the previous video was still running it just opens a new app and runs both videos @ the same time rather than just open the new video in the player already open, is there anyway to stop this as i've checked options and u soon have 10 players open09:38
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freewillmy keyboad gets dedected wronge how to i change this?09:57
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freewilllike if i press # i get  and i can't make a backslash....09:58
abattoirfreewill: System Settings->Regional and Accessibility->Keyboard Layout10:00
abattoirfreewill: you are running dapper, correct?10:00
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freewillabattoir: yes10:00
abattoirfreewill: ok, see if you can change your keyboard layout from there10:01
abattoirfreewill: are you using US English, or another keyboard variation?10:01
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usuxkubuntu10:03
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freewillabattoir: cool its working, i just clicked 'Enable keyboard layouts' and it set it automaticly to 104 us10:03
abattoirfreewill: great :)10:03
freewillrolf usux uber nooblet10:03
usuxi have been using da net for ova 10 years10:03
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freewilli have for 4 and what about it10:04
freewillabattoir: does Edgy Eft have xgl?10:05
freewillabattoir: its got x 7.1 though10:05
abattoirfreewill: Compositing is enabled in Xorg by default10:05
freewillabattoir: cool10:05
abattoirfreewill: i think its available in the repos, not sure as i dont use it10:05
freewillk thx10:06
freewillcheers10:06
abattoir:)10:06
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Ash-Fox!ati10:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:15
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Manyfoldhow can i tweak dhclient in a way that the interface only gets the address from the dhcpserver but not the nameserver?10:16
Manyfoldat bootup10:16
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dinosaur-rusI've tried http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/repairing-reiserfs-file-system-with-reiserfsck.html - no success, so I can forget about that data and enjoy Kubuntu (after it'll be downloaded and installed)10:26
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nathalieHello10:38
nathaliei have a problem10:38
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nathaliemy keayboard is being locked under a specific user10:38
nathaliein KDE10:38
nathaliecan anyone help?10:38
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ViGGiwell, you could try #ubuntu channel and hope they won't kill u :P10:40
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nathaliehaha10:41
nathaliecan no one help10:41
nathalie?10:41
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nathalieneed help with kayboard lock problem10:42
hsihhhi. why only kubuntu works with my soundcard (integrated intel)? xubuntu and ubundu refuses to do so10:42
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nathalieis there another chanel where i can try?10:43
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ViGGiI can't even start kubuntu from the cd... yay..10:43
hsihhi thinked that kde, xfce and gnome are only guis, but kubuntu works much better with my hardware10:43
Jucatonathalie: you could try asking in the forums? http://www.ubuntuforums.org10:43
dinosaur-rusViGGi: Kubuntu 6.10 for x64?10:43
Jucatoor http://www.kubuntuforums.net/forums10:44
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ViGGinah 6.06 for i38610:44
nathaliethnx10:44
zorglu_ViGGi: is it a laptop ?10:45
ViGGiNope10:45
zorglu_ViGGi: what happen when you try to boot10:45
dinosaur-rusViGGi: I have the same problem with 64-bit 6.10... it loads at 1 attempt from 1010:45
Jucatohsihh: probably because KDE (kubuntu) and GNOME (ubuntu) use different sound engines?10:45
zorglu_ViGGi: btw try to put the nick of the personn you are talking to in your sentence, it make the communciation easier10:46
zorglu_dinosaur-rus: have you talked to #ubuntu+1 people about this ?10:46
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dinosaur-ruszorglu_: it's Kubuntu, and I've talked about that yesterday10:48
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zorglu_dinosaur-rus: yep but have you talked to #ubuntu+1 people about this ?10:48
dinosaur-ruszorglu_: so now I'm downloading the alternative CD, I hope there'll be less problems with it10:49
dinosaur-ruszorglu_: no10:49
zorglu_the #kubuntu channel is for 6.06, #ubuntu+1 is for edgy which is a developement version aka unstable :)10:49
dinosaur-ruszorglu_: ah ok10:49
zorglu_6.06 is more stable10:49
dinosaur-rus:P10:49
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zorglu_Jucato: about that, is there a way to determine the version whcih has been installed in a box, like cat /etc/REDHAT in redhat distribution10:50
Jucatozorglu_: "lsb_release -a"10:51
zorglu_thanks10:51
Jucatozorglu_: or "cat /etc/lsb-release" :)10:51
zorglu_cleaner that the usual cat /etc/REDHAT :)10:52
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hsihhJucato10:54
Jucatohsihh: huh?10:54
hsihhJucato - and what about xfce?10:54
Jucatoxfce uses the same sound engine as GNOME afaik...10:54
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JucatoKDE uses aRts, GNOME/Xfce uses ESD.10:55
flaccidwhere are all messages shown on startup logged to?10:55
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zorglu_flaccid: /var/log/messages or the 'dmesg' command10:55
dinosaur-rusflaccid: /var/syslog ?10:55
Jucatoflaccid: type "dmseg" ?10:55
Jucatozorglu_ beat me to it :P10:55
jasonhey in what directory should i put my win32 codecs10:55
zorglu_:)10:56
Jucatojason: anywhere, it doesn't matter since you'll be installing it10:56
jasonthe package must have used another directory other than the mplayer default10:56
Torched!wmv10:56
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:56
Jucatojason: ah I thought you were talking about w32codecs10:56
flaccidthat doesn't seem to be all of em10:56
jasonyes10:56
jasoni downloaded them10:56
flacciddoes it log the service starts with [ok] 10:57
flaccidwhich file is that10:57
Jucatojason: the w32codecs .deb file?10:57
jasonno10:57
jasonzip file10:57
Jucatoah that's a different thing.10:57
jason.deb?10:57
jasoni have adept10:58
dinosaur-rusflaccid: look at the /var/logs/syslog, may be you'll find something there10:58
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jasonbut i dont think the sources serve up w32codecs10:58
flacciddinosaur-rus: yeah not there10:58
zorglu_ /usr/lib/codecs <- is where the .deb installed mine10:58
jasonlet me look10:59
dinosaur-rusflaccif: look other files in /var/logs10:59
zorglu_flaccid: as far as i know the [ok]  line are not logged10:59
flacciddinosaur-rus: yeah can't seem to find it10:59
jasonnosuch directory11:00
dinosaur-rusflaccid: may be /var/log? my brains are buggy a bit :))11:00
flaccidif i log into gnome and then logout, it hardcrashes11:00
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dinosaur-rusflaccid: try #ubuntu channel11:01
tomas_hola11:02
dinosaur-rushi11:02
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kayhow can i mount a nfts hd so that i can use it as user? when i am su i can look at it but not as user11:03
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zorglu_!ntfs11:03
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse11:03
dinosaur-rus!mc11:04
hsihhJucato - and what about video server? how is it in kubuntu and ubuntu?11:04
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2073 kB, installed size 5952 kB11:04
zorglu_kay: look at the page, especially the 'user' option in the /etc/fstab11:04
kayzorglu_: THX!11:04
dinosaur-rusyeah I like mc :P11:04
flaccidwhich file contains default window manager for user?11:06
jasonheres an easy 1 whats the command for copy?11:06
zorglu_jason: cp sourcefile destfile11:07
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jasonty11:07
zorglu_jason: replace the name obviously :)11:07
zorglu_flaccid: this one is not trivial. you tried to do it with the kdm menu ? likely much easier that using file11:07
flaccidzorglu_: doing some troubleshooting11:08
kayok thx for help but i need to know how i can give the hda1 (nfts) to the users? i can mount it and look at it but only as superuser11:08
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zorglu_else the option is buried in the x startup, somewhere in startx, ~/.xsessions and such, i dunno where exactly, flaccid11:09
flaccidok i'll google11:09
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dinosaur-ruskay: there're "nouser" and "umask" parameters11:09
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kaydinosaur-rus: what does this mean?11:09
dinosaur-ruskay: look "man fstab" and "man mount" for details11:10
kayk11:10
kaythx11:10
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flaccidhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8143111:11
flaccid^^^ typical ubuntu situation11:11
flaccidthere is a bug, solution is always to reconfugure instead of manually editing the required file11:12
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flaccidseems quite common people doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on top of kubuntu and running into this11:12
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zorglu_noted11:20
zorglu_flaccid: note the date of the thread tho, it it oct/2005 for 5.1011:21
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flaccidzorglu_: thats even worse11:22
flaccidnothing done11:22
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zorglu_or the same bug cames back to life11:23
zorglu_flaccid: is the fix working ?11:23
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flaccidno11:23
flaccidi hate reconfigure fixes. why loose your existing config?11:24
zorglu_i understand your point11:24
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flaccidits just things like this11:25
flaccidis why i swapped from fedora11:25
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flacciddoesn't seem like many distros have the abstraction between x components set very stable11:26
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zorglu_well X is complex and old. so we have to handle the compatibility11:26
flaccidhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8143111:27
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flaccidi disagree11:27
flaccidits not really that complex at all11:27
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flaccidin this case its conflict with what kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop do11:27
zorglu_i guess we have a very different view of complexity :)11:27
zorglu_ah ok, yes what you try to do should not break anything11:28
flaccidis the only way to install a working gnome by install ubuntu-desktop?11:28
flaccidbut it does..11:28
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zorglu_hence it is a bug :)11:28
flaccidnot that its a solution. its an ignorant assumption.11:29
flaccidlooks like lots of people reporting the problem but no one fixing it11:29
flaccidand because ubuntu is more desktop oriented, its hard to find out what the actual file where a config is stored11:29
flaccidintead you get a dpkg-reconfigure 'solution'11:30
zorglu_yep software are not perfect11:30
flaccidits coz like there are more desktop users in the community11:30
flaccidneed more nitty gritty users to solve problems like this11:30
flaccidlike i still can't find how kubuntu handles default window manager with xinitrc11:31
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zorglu_yep always a tradeoff, either you are easy to use so hide the complexity from the users, or you dont11:31
zorglu_if the complexity is hidden, less people knows how to fix it11:31
zorglu_but you get a lot more users11:32
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flaccidboth can be done11:32
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flaccidlike more available documentation would help11:32
zorglu_to expose the complexity and remain easy to use is possible but require a large coherent community :)11:32
flaccidthere would have to be some..11:33
flaccidi thought thats what this is11:33
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flaccidi guess i'm looking for documentation on kubuntu's structure11:34
flaccidit would have to exist?11:34
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zorglu_depend on what you are looking for11:35
zorglu_if i were you, i would look at the x startup documentation11:36
flaccidoh cool where is that11:36
zorglu_then parse the various/multiple config file11:36
zorglu_then fix11:36
zorglu_somewhere in the web :) and not easy to find would be my guess11:36
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zorglu_or you could report the bug and talk to people who may know in kubuntu11:36
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flaccidrightio, then how did you know it existed?11:37
zorglu_it would be faster and benefit to the whole community11:37
zorglu_it = ?/11:37
flaccidbbl11:38
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Lecherosomeone has wath "it crowd" :) i am wathing it and is the best geek videos that i have never seen lol lol11:50
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sorush20hi11:50
promethevs_hey, anyone know when a bug in amarok xine engine will be fixed?11:51
sorush20I keep getting a blue box like this on fgl_glxgears11:51
sorush20http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7507/pantallazopbufferglxgears6tk.png11:51
sorush20promethevs_: what bug?11:51
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promethevs_it is almost a 2 months since amarok cant play flac files11:51
Lecherothis bug have been reported?11:51
Lecheromay to be license problems11:52
promethevs_i don't know11:52
promethevs_flac is open source11:52
zorglu_look in launchpad to find if it has been reported, else fill it11:52
zorglu_if it is reported you can follow the progression on the work made on it11:53
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promethevs_ive find a workaround (downgrade libxine-main with 3rdparty patch) but update notifier notifies of newer (broken) version11:54
Lecherosorush20: are you spanish?11:54
zorglu_promethevs_: this is important information, be sure to include this in the bug report11:55
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thygrrrHi, what's this "Kernel Build Environment" that the ATI fglrx drivers need. Apparently the current version of the driver doesn't have a precompiled module for my current kernel.11:56
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Lecheroyou could get the source of you linux-image with apt-get source linux-image-x.y.z-386 and then apply the path and then do a make modules_prepare and then compile the ati drivers11:57
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promethevs_this problem is discussed here for at least four months http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21068311:57
Flosofthey11:57
Flosoftdoes any use mutella?11:58
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hsihhhi. who will get the kubuntu ico from cd,and post it on internet for me, in http://www.megaupload.com/ in example?11:59
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Lecherowhy do you want to do that? kubuntu can be downloaded from kubuntu.org directly12:00
hsihhi`m downloading the iso, but need the ico now, and i can`t find it on google12:00
trappistwget http://kubuntu.org/favicon.ico12:00
trappistico?12:01
trappistan ico file is just an icon12:01
zorglu_hsihh: what is this ico you are talking about12:01
Lecheroico = icon or you want to say iso?12:01
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promethevs_where i can see/add a bug?12:02
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zorglu_https://launchpad.net/malone <- promethevs_12:02
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trappisthttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu12:03
Lecheropromethevs_: if you enter on the amarok oficial web page there are a section for submit bugs12:03
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Ademanwhat files do the power saving settings get installed to?12:03
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Ademansaved to*12:04
PiRhello12:04
Ademani guess i'm getting tired12:04
Lecherosomeone know if is truth the rumor that ubuntu edgy dont will be sent free to you home?12:04
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Ademandon't will?12:04
flaccidyay windows key shortcuts no longer work form e12:04
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Lecheroor wont :) i dont speak english like i could to speak it12:05
PiRwhen i update with adept, it can't to update a macromedia flash package12:05
promethevs_thanx for link12:05
AdemanLechero: I haven't heard that, Why would they stop sending them out?12:05
PiRhow can i solve this problem ?12:05
AdemanThey've done it for a long time now12:05
hsihhi`m searching for kubuntu version of this icon: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OWGGFHW212:06
AdemanPiR: well for one don't use adept, its got tons of known problems12:06
LecheroAdeman: i have read that on dig at least 2 month ago12:06
Ademaneither use the commadn line or Synaptic12:06
hsihhzorglu_ ^12:06
promethevs_this is xine related bug, and someone reported this already12:06
AdemanLechero: anyone can submit any news about anything on digg :-)12:06
PiRok Ademan12:06
zorglu_hsihh: this link just provide me a bunch of ads, but nothing else12:06
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zorglu_!flash12:07
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zorglu_PiR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-c268ba69c6b38af1dc31ea09701c7d296cf971c3 in particular12:07
Lecheroyes but is true that on the other version you could to submit cd request at least 1 month before the oficial realease, and there arent possibbly to submit cds of edgy yet12:08
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Ademanwhere do KDE power saving settings get saved to?12:08
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zorglu_http://everythingelse.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/shipit-will-not-take-orders-for-edgy-eft/ <- about shipit and edgy12:09
Ademanzorglu_: well... maybe thats because edgy isnt released yet?12:09
zorglu_Ademan: apparently it is more because edgy is a developement release12:09
zorglu_Ademan: dapper being the stable one12:10
Ademanah12:10
Ademaninteresting12:10
Ademanif there's any better hardware support in edgy though... that would be nice...12:10
zorglu_anything which is dimmed stable in edgy will be backported to dapper12:11
Ademanzorglu_: but what about people who can't even INSTALL dapper because of hardware issues? (i don't know if that happens, but in theory it could right?)12:11
zorglu_Ademan: if edgy is installable for them, they can either download edgy from the internet or wait to the change to be backported to dapper12:12
zorglu_i do understand the position of shipit on this, to spread a developement version to plain users is not a good idea12:13
zorglu_they may be mislead into thinking it is a stable one12:13
Lecheroubuntu may to have better suport for palms devices, now work but the sync is doing when kpilot want and not when you want :)12:14
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zorglu_talk to kpilot dev about this12:15
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zorglu_one of the hard part with open source is to find the one responsible for a task :)12:15
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zorglu_there is a #kpilot channel :)12:15
flaccidi wish dapper was more stable :)12:16
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Lecherothe problem isnt from kpilot, it seem to be a kernel problem, or a system problem. Because the problem is that when you plug the first time the palm the system create /dev/pilot, but when you push the sync buton again it create another /dev/pilot-1 device, and then a /dev/pilot-2... etc... :)12:17
thygrrrHow do I turn off password storing in Konqueror?12:17
thygrrr(e.g. for web site logins)12:17
Lecheroand if you configure kpilot for use /dev/pilot only work the first time the you push sync button lol12:17
hsihhzorglu_ http://38.119.88.48/a753fd6dca17e7d90c3363be5a8276e8/other/ubuntu.ico kubuntu version of this12:18
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zorglu_hsihh: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork <- may be of interest12:19
flaccidanother dismal bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/control-center/+bug/1215312:20
Lecherosee you later12:21
zorglu_flaccid: like old thread hey :) i use the window key as modifier key on my box12:21
flaccidanother old bug that has carried through the distro versions. read the last threads..12:22
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flaccidi don't even know what a modifier key is12:23
hsihhzorglu_ thanks12:23
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zorglu_flaccid: it is window key + some other key, in this case the window key is a modifier key12:23
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zorglu_flaccid: because you add it to some other key12:24
flaccidusually for adding those symbols to chars12:24
flaccidi know what you mean12:24
flacciddoesn't help the bug however12:24
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flaccidits like 2 major bugs in one day12:25
flaccidfor me12:25
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thygrrrWhich kernel version would you suggest for ATI Proprietary Linux Driver Version 8.29.6 ? During installation, it says it has no matching precompiled module, and I think I want to avoid compiling a new one (mostly because I have no damn clue what to get).12:27
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keelbillhi any of you knows a how to for kbuntu edgy + nvidia beta drivers and beryl?12:29
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Lecherohi again12:30
thygrrrLechero: What did you mean earlier by "apply the path" with regard to the linux kernel sources.12:31
Lecheroi meant to do a path -p1 ../file.diff for apply the differences that have the ubuntu kernel binaries12:32
flaccidwho else has had problems with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop installed?12:32
Tallia1Kubuntusorry? if i am using dhclient as a daemon and i want to renew the lease, what do i have to do? since if i call again sudo dhclient eht1, the result is that another dhcpclient process is added to the process tree.... can you give me any suggestion? basically i'd like to have a refresh function, like the one that is used in MS windows12:33
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flaccidlol another bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcontrol-autostart/+bug/4985912:34
oheard``Replacing the venerable Gnopernicus is the new Orca, a scriptable screenreader for the GNOME desktop. Expect some great things from this in the coming months and years. Best of all, it is written in Ubuntu's favourite language, Python." <-= shouldn't that read ``Best of all, it is written in Mark Shuttleworth's favorite language, Python."? xD12:34
LecheroOpenBSD, one bug in 15 years, Ubuntu 1 bug per seconds :)12:35
thygrrrLachero: oook. path... I guess you meant patch.12:35
octanhi all12:35
BazziLechero: openbsd is not on crack like ubuntu though ;)12:36
thygrrrLechero: apt said dpkg-source: applying ./linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-27.48.diff.gz , so I guess it applied it already.12:36
oheardhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/EdgyEft/Beta <-= why is that all about Ubuntu? Where can I find info about Kubuntu Edgy? -_-12:36
Lecherothygrrr: sorry, maybe i fail on writting "path" but my english is really bad :)12:36
Tallia1Kubuntu!edgy12:36
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft". For support head to #ubuntu+1. For its release schedule, see !schedule12:36
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thygrrrLechero: No problem, thanks :D12:36
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jan_i someone here familiar with Oracle?12:37
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Lecherojan_ a lot of, i use it on my university :)12:37
jan_yeah, but can you tell me how to install it on Kubuntu? i'm quite new on this al12:38
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octanhow do i tell which order the modules are loaded? i have a pvr 500 card,, it has video0 and video1 and i have a webcam /dev/video2 however.. when i restart my pc my webcam comes on video0 i cant have it there,, how can i tell it to be video2, or tell it to be loaded after the ivtv module ? my webcam uses the spca5xx module12:38
Lecheronow sorry i have never install Oracle :( But Oracle interfaces are java, it may to be similar that in Windows12:39
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tmdx120identify 5percent12:39
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zorglu_tmdx120: time to change your password, btw konversation make it easy to do that autoamtically and avoid this to happen in the future12:39
tmdx120zorglu_: how do I do that?12:40
zorglu_tmdx120: i think i alread seen your password on this channel :)12:40
jan_what is a "debian package "?12:40
tmdx120zorglu_: I have benn having a heck of a time!  LOL! how do I change it?12:40
jan_i mean12:40
jan_how do i install it12:40
zorglu_tmdx120: setting -> identity -> auto identify12:41
jan_i just cant figure out this linux-stuff :$12:41
thygrrrtmdx120, at least it's not 50cent12:41
Lecherojan_ a debian package is a program in a .deb file, and you can install it with dpkg -i file.deb12:41
tmdx120thygrrr: ROTFLOL12:41
zorglu_jan_: it is a package made for the debian distribution. aka not for the kubuntu one12:41
CarDI would like start install of windows xp on qemu.... What command for this?12:42
zorglu_!qemu12:42
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo12:42
CarD(sorry for my english)12:42
CarDroh :)12:42
LecheroCarD: your english is better that my english :)12:42
zorglu_CarD: i did it without success, fun to look at :)12:42
zorglu_without= WITH12:42
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zorglu_i keep doing this kind of bad typo :(12:43
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CarDtx :)12:43
Lecheroi think that i may to read more books in english for write correctly here :)12:44
CarDroh :)12:44
CarDgood boy qemu :)12:44
Lecheroi learned english reading Harry Potter lol lol12:44
tmdx120zorglu_: Should I take it off autoidentify?12:45
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zorglu_tmdx120: i dont understand what you mean12:45
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CarDhum i would like media:/hda1 for my install... how can choice this partition?12:45
tmdx120zorglu_: right now it has my nick and password in the auto identify.12:45
zorglu_you put nickserv in the service and your password <- tmdx12012:46
zorglu_tmdx120: ah ok, nope the 'service' is nickserv12:46
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zorglu_!identify12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about identify - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
zorglu_!register12:46
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration12:46
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zorglu_tmdx120: the above link explains it12:46
hyper!german12:46
hyper!de12:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about german - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:46
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:46
sorush20Lechero: no I not spanish..12:47
sorush20Lechero: why do you ask?12:47
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Lecherosorush20: i thought it because the name of the capture is *pantallazo* and "pantallazo" is spanish :)12:47
Lecheropantallazo in spanish is screenshot in english12:48
zorglu_my guess is indian :)12:48
sorush20Lechero: no I ont12:48
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sorush20zorglu_: close.. iranian.. I just haveing some uranium for tea..12:49
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zorglu_not that close :)12:49
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Lecheroi think that usa have more uranium that all the other countrys :)12:49
pexisomeone knows why fglrx not run with kubuntu now??12:50
sorush20uranium is no less expensive than oil.. http://www.uxc.com/review/uxc_Prices.aspx12:50
pexii don't know why but i have to type modprobe fglrx and reboot the X12:51
Lecheroi'll bye uranium for my car this afternoon :)12:51
CarDaiglx on SIS graphic card... It's possible?12:51
Lecherobye = BUY12:51
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zorglu_CarD: #ubuntu-xgl may have more info on that12:52
hyperhello abattoir :)12:52
CarDk tx12:53
jan_i get an error installing OracleXE:12:53
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jan_dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of oracle-xe:12:53
jan_ oracle-xe depends on libaio (>= 0.3.96) | libaio1 (>= 0.3.96); however:12:53
jan_  Package libaio is not installed.12:53
jan_  Package libaio1 is not installed.12:53
jan_dpkg: error processing oracle-xe (--install):12:53
jan_ dependency problems - leaving unconfigured12:53
jan_Errors were encountered while processing:12:53
jan_ oracle-xe12:53
octanOK Guys,, whrere does the modules get loaded from ? it aint /etc/modules because it got more modules running than listed in that file12:53
zorglu_!pastbin > jan_12:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:53
Lecherofucking kde wallet... is the worse idea of the world, is allways fucking me12:54
zorglu_jan_: please use pastebin in the future12:54
MenZa!language12:54
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:54
zorglu_!pastebin > jan_12:54
jan_i'm sorry12:54
Lecheroyou must install libaio and libaio1 :)12:54
tmdx120zorglu_: thanks.12:54
jan_Lechero: where do i get these?12:55
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zorglu_!info libaio12:55
ubotuPackage libaio does not exist in any distro I know12:55
zorglu_!info libaio112:55
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ubotulibaio1: kernel aio access library. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.104-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 5 kB, installed size 60 kB12:55
Lecherojan_: if you havent it on your souces maybe you could to use www.apt-get.com for search new sources12:55
octanwhrer does the modules get loaded from ? if it aint from /etc/modules  where else??   because it got more modules running than listed in that file12:56
jan_i have libaio1 and libaio-dec12:56
jan_dev*12:56
jan_both install?12:56
zorglu_jan_: 'sudo apt-get install libaio1'12:56
harmentalhi everybody...is it safe to upgrade to edgy....how do i do it?12:56
octandont do it12:57
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Lecherooctan: kubunt detect hardware on the init and load the modules that he need automatic12:57
zorglu_harmental: edgy is a develpement version, do it if you want to help testing it12:57
tmdx120zorglu_: did it show that time?12:57
zorglu_tmdx120: nope :)12:57
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zorglu_tmdx120 is an identified user. <- and it worked :)12:57
octanLechero oh? so how can i tell which order to load the modules ?12:58
tmdx120zorglu_: THANKS!!! :)12:58
Lecherooctan: if you want to creat a order you must to add the modules in your orden on /etc/modules12:58
octanLechero, like i want ivtv module loaded before spca5xx module12:58
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harmentalzorglu_: ok..Thx...12:58
tmdx120Im having trouble with Kontact, can anyone help?12:59
zorglu_octan: you may try to play with /etc/modprove.d and /etc/modules12:59
Lecherooctan: add ivtv on the first line of /etc/modules antd spca5xx on the last line12:59
octanLechero, i just did that01:00
octanrebooting to test01:00
Lecheroit is 13:0101:01
Lechero:)01:01
tmdx120if I have  a reported bug in a piece of software (Kontact) where do I go?01:02
heinkel_111you mean if you want to report a bug?01:02
zorglu_tmdx120: http://launchpad.net/malone01:02
zorglu_tmdx120: or http://bugs.kde.org it is kde related01:03
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heinkel_111Kontact: i guess is probably KDE related?01:04
zorglu_yep if the bug is in kontact01:04
heinkel_111:)01:04
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zorglu_always fun to find the proper place to report :)01:05
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Lecheroi always prefer reports bugs in the oficial page of the project01:05
jan_i'm told to01:05
zorglu_ok going to work, have fun :)01:05
jan_ou must run '/etc/init.d/oracle-xe configure' as the root user to configure the database.01:06
jan_how do i do this :s01:06
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Lecherojan_: write /etc/init.d/oracle-xe configure in a console :)01:06
Lecherowith sudo of course01:07
octanLechero,01:07
octanthat didnt work01:07
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Lecherooctan: what message say console to you01:08
octanLechero, something is weird01:09
octanLechero, i put spca5xx at the bottom01:09
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octannow when i do did cat /etc/modules to check01:09
octanit isnt there01:10
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octanbut01:10
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octanif i open the file with a editor its ther01:10
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Lecheroif you check dmesg can you find any error with the load of this module?01:10
octani dont have errors01:11
octani need to get ivtv to load firsr01:11
octannot spca5xx01:11
Lecherois rare01:11
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freewilli can't update/intstall/... pkgs because if i go into adept then it tells me there is something using the db but i can't find out what01:12
oheardMy HDD is going AOT, does anyone know a free alternative to western digitals diagnostic software?01:12
Lecheroanother option is add ivtv to /etc/modules and add spca5xx to the blacklist of modprobe and then create a script for load spca5xx on the system init. But this solution is the worse option :)01:13
freewillnothings runing in a window and if i press ctrl+esc then i don't know what all that stuff is but its not telling me adept is runing there01:13
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tkHawkwind: you around?01:17
octanLechero, :(01:17
freewilloctan: have you thought fo triying maxor's software01:18
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octanok so i put ivtv before spca5xx in /etc/modules. but still spca5xx loads first01:18
octanfreeflying, whats that?01:19
freewilloctan: when my maxtor 40gb went i could revive it for about 2 weeks and then it went finaly (just enough time to back my stuff up)01:20
freewilloctan: recovering app01:20
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Lechero?01:21
freewilloctan: i can't remember its name though :p it was a few years back01:21
octanfreeflying, ? what does that have to do with me?01:21
octan*freewill,01:21
freewilloctan: i thought u want a app to help ur hdd live01:22
octanlol01:22
octanno01:22
octanthats not my case01:22
freewilloctan: do you just want a app that tells u stuff of ur hdd?01:22
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octanfreewill, no i want help figuring out why spca5xx module loads before ivtv module01:23
freewilloctan: dangy01:23
Lecherooctan: you must play with the blacklist and with with /etc/modules, i had the same proble with the mouse driver and usbhid and finally i have usbhid on the blacklist of modprobe and the driver mouse on the top of /etc/modules and usbhid on the botton, and i get load the mouse driver before with this01:23
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freewilloctan: this looks like gentoo :P01:24
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octanLechero, ok i'll try add spca5xx to the blacklist01:24
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freewilli can't update/intstall/... pkgs because if i go into adept then it tells me there is something using the db but i can't find out what01:25
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Lecherofreewill: reboot01:25
freewilli have ...01:26
freewillLechero: but it still tells me the same thing01:26
freewillLechero: nothings runing in a window and if i press ctrl+esc then i don't know what all that stuff is but its not telling me adept is runing there01:26
Lecherouse aptitude in console01:27
freewillLechero: k01:27
Lecherosudo aptitude-update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:27
freewillLechero: lol nice app01:27
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Lechero:)01:29
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Werzi2001hi@ll01:29
Lecheroi have never use adept yet :)01:29
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Werzi2001i am afraid about the security of my kubuntu-system01:30
freewillLechero: do you just use aptitude?01:30
oheardWerzi2001: why?01:30
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Lecherofreewill: yes, aptitude and apt01:30
Werzi2001i have installed pptpconfig (i need it for work)01:30
Werzi2001and this program starts (sometimes)... but i didnt start it01:31
Werzi2001in the kde process list it says:01:31
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Werzi2001pptpconfig thomas /usr/lib/php-pcntl/bin/php01:31
Werzi2001this php-thing makes me afraid01:31
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Werzi2001is it possible that anyone starts this program using a php-hole?01:32
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oheardNo idea. :-)01:32
Werzi2001:/01:32
octan Lechero thank you.. putting the module in the blacklist did the trick :D01:33
nukuWerzi2001: pptpconfig is written in php :p01:33
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Lecherooctan: work now ok?01:33
Werzi2001nuku: ok that makes sense ;)01:33
octanyea01:33
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octanthanks man01:34
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Lecheronp01:34
Werzi2001thx01:34
nukuWerzi2001: you may have a look at kvpnc ..01:34
nukuit can handle most types of vpn connections including pptp01:34
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octanLechero, i was starting to worrie i had to reconfigure mythtv,. thats alot of work :P01:35
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benjaminAnyone knows how i rename the NFS-icons on the desktop?01:36
Lecheroi dont like mythtv :) it is like windows media center :)01:36
Werzi2001nuku: thx... i ll have a look at it :)01:37
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Bocianwho's from poland? :P01:37
octanLechero, mythtv was like 10 years before winblows media center01:37
Lecheroi am from spain :)01:37
Bocianhello x] 01:38
freewilli am form south AFRICA lol :P01:38
Werzi2001thx for your help... bye@ll01:38
octanim from the artic shit hole01:38
octan<-- norway :P01:38
Lecherofreewill: south africa? you must to be the first in receive the ubuntu cds :)01:38
Bocian;] 01:38
freewilloctan is it cold there?01:39
freewillLechero: yeah ;)01:39
octanfreewill, is that a trick question :P01:39
Lecheroubuntu are been created in south africa, arent it?01:39
benjaminWell, here in sweden it it cold today :/01:39
freewilloctan lol01:39
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octanfreewill, not so could at the moment.. only -2 deg celcius01:39
Bociananyone play in enemy territory? :D i search clan players :)01:39
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Lecherono, i play armageton01:40
flaccid!backup > flaccid01:40
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freewillLechero: i am not entirely sure but i think mark suttleworh strated/ are supporting it allot and his form here01:40
Lecheroand FretsOnFire too01:40
Bocianyeah me to :PPP01:40
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Bocianbooring  ;/01:41
freewilloctan: my gfx-card needs a new fan because its so warm here it overheats01:41
ubuntu_Polska ?01:41
Lecherofreewill: i always read that mark is from south africa, and from the space, but that he live in south africa :)01:41
Bocianjasne :D01:41
octanfreewill, lol01:41
Bocianczesciowo :P01:41
ubuntu_hey01:42
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ubuntu_co to jest? IRC01:42
ubuntu_?01:42
Bocianyes it is :D01:42
Lecheroenglish please01:42
freewillLechero: yeah first south-african if not african in space01:42
Bocianright ubuntu :D01:42
ubuntu_odpalilem Ubuntu z plyty i wcisnelem konversation01:43
ubuntu_czy Ubyntu mozna zainstalowac na HDD ?01:43
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Bocianpisz na priv jak piszesz po polsku :D01:43
ubuntu_sorry01:43
freewillits bad i'm getting 67 celius if i play a while01:43
ubuntu_ok01:43
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LecheroThe people say that Johan Esburgo is a european city on Africa01:44
freewilllol how does that work01:44
Bocianaah pirv not working before register.. omfg ;/01:44
freewilli'm just going to get me a zalman cooler my fiend that lives in my streat got the same gfx card as me but his got a zalman cooler and his is avraging @ 44c01:45
freewill*street01:45
Bocianwhat's the polish-kubuntu irc adress?01:46
fdoving!pl01:46
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl01:46
Bocianahh thx :D01:46
Bociani never use irc ;] 01:47
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freewillwhat are u using now??01:47
Snake[Away] Hey guys, can anyone link me to a good place to start learning how to build and distribute packages?01:47
nukuSnake[Away] :  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources01:48
Bociannow irc, my first time ;/01:48
Snake[Away] nuku: thanks01:48
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freewillBocian, what do you normaly use?01:48
Bocianc'ya all!01:49
Arlingtonwich is the best dvd/cd burning software for linux?01:49
Bociannormaly nothing :D01:49
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freewillBocian cheers01:49
Bocianc'ya01:49
Snake[Away] K3B is good alterato01:49
Snake[Away] oops01:49
Snake[Away] Arlington: K3B01:49
Bociansorry a dont speak english :D01:49
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Arlingtonnice. i saw that nero is availible for linux01:50
Snake[Away] its nothing like nero for windows01:50
Snake[Away] were rather....neglected01:50
Arlingtonooo too bad... i'll try k3b then.01:50
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Snake[Away] Hobbsee: !01:51
Snake[Away] :-D01:51
Arlingtonhmm is this  k3b embed in kubuntu or can i launch a window (like nero) i wanna make a bootable copy of a windush xp cd for a friend of mine...01:52
Hobbseehey Snake[Away] !01:52
Snake[Away] launch a window Arlington ?01:52
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Snake[Away] Oh01:52
nukuArlington: yes it is a "standalone" application if you mean that01:53
Snake[Away] Arlington: You just go to the start menu and run it, its its own app01:53
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Snake[Away] Hobbsee: whatcha been up to?01:53
Arlingtonyes i meant that but can't find it in my start menu...01:53
HobbseeSnake[Away] : at work.  and you're clearly not away01:53
Arlingtonbut adept says i have it installled...01:53
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nukuArlington: its under multimedia01:53
Arlingtonaaah. sorry didn't look hard enough.01:53
Snake[Away] Hobbsee: hehe I know, i'm getting ready to leave though, when I get home, im going to start learning how to build debs01:53
HobbseeSnake[Away] : yay :)  properly?01:54
Snake[Away] Think I could write down Ubuntu Member on a job application/college resume?01:54
Snake[Away] Hobbsee: yea, im trying for membership ;)01:54
flaccidlooks like a lot of my problems may just be my hard  disk failing01:54
Snake[Away] so I gotta build up something01:54
HobbseeSnake[Away] : nice.  hehe, i fyou want01:54
flaccidwhich is bad, but at least ubuntu is not at fault01:54
HobbseeSnake[Away] : kubuntu or ubuntu membership?01:55
Arlingtonthe cd i wan't to duplictae is bootable(windows install cd) how can i make sure the ne cd becomes bootable to?01:55
Snake[Away] Hobbsee: theres 2 now???01:55
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Snake[Away] lol01:55
Snake[Away] Hobbsee: probly ubuntu, I havn't used KDE for a while thanks to XGL01:56
ArlingtonSnake[Away] : the cd i wan't to duplictae is bootable(windows install cd) how can i make sure the ne cd becomes bootable to?01:56
HobbseeSnake[Away] : ahhh..01:56
HobbseeSnake[Away] : sure.  well, they're the same thing, decided by different people01:56
HobbseeSnake[Away] : there's also edubuntu membership01:56
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Snake[Away] Hobbsee: sheesh lol01:58
Snake[Away] Arlington: I believe when you select the iso, it automatically makes it bootable, just give me a moment to check though01:59
Snake[Away] !iso01:59
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows01:59
Snake[Away] GOD DAMN YOU ubotu01:59
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Snake[Away] Arlington: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto follow that02:00
Snake[Away] (scroll down to Kubuntu, obviously)02:00
Arlingtonthanx. everyone in here are so kind to a linuxneewbie like me :-D thanx kubuntu communitiers!02:00
Snake[Away] hehe02:01
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ArlingtonSnake[Away] : at first i was really intimitaded to make the leap of changing to  linux but now (a week into my linux life) i'am just so happy :-)02:02
Snake[Away] Arlington: I hope it stays that way ;-) (I myself am nearing my one year anniversary of the leap next month)02:03
ArlingtonSnake[Away] :  the only thing taht is bad is that the drivers for my printer dosn't work but that is propably because i havn't tried har enough :-D02:04
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Snake[Away] Arlington: ive noticed printers are rather difficult to set up, I didnt want to put up with it so I didnt go near that one02:04
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Arlingtona tip is the turboprint driver but it costs 30 $ but works with nearly all printers as well as mine :-D02:05
Snake[Away] yea thats what I keep hearing, I bet that program makes a killing02:06
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tkdont need to worry about printers until I can get my wifi working under linux :P (not in a huge hurry but it owuld be nice to have wen I fly out Monday)02:06
nukuturboprint is really good02:06
Arlingtonthink so. first i installed that then installed canon own driver and now none works so i guess i have to uninstall them in someway wich i havn't learned yet.02:06
nukubut it would be better if canon and so would just be so kind and release opensource drivers :)02:07
Arlingtontk: what wifi card are you using or what is the problem. my wifi works perfect.02:07
tkArlington: its a broadcomm internal, let me get the exact02:07
tkArlington: eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"bungalo"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"02:08
Arlingtonbecause my usb stick is working perfectly02:08
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narasim_7hi all02:09
tkArlington: I havent really tried very hard to get it working... probably something stupidly simple, my stuff I needed for working from home kinda took precedence (I currently sit 1 ft away from my wifi router so... a cable sufficed :P)02:09
Arlingtontk:  i expect that u have gone through the ubuntu wiki wifi02:09
narasim_7adept lacks some features of synaptic..02:09
narasim_7is there an equivalent program for kubuntu?02:10
Arlingtonhehe. have you checked the nertwork setting in the system menu?02:10
Arlingtonnarasim_7:  synaptic is availible :-)02:10
Arlingtontk:  i mean did kubuntu recognise your wifi card?02:10
Snake[Away] Arlington: broadcom chipsets cant work out of the box02:11
Snake[Away] unfortantly02:11
narasim_7Arlington: yes :D .... anyway thanks02:11
tkArlington: I'm actually in the K'less version right now... but it sees my card02:11
tkjust dont work :P02:12
Arlingtonand you have activated it?02:12
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tklooking for hte wifi wiki now02:12
Snake[Away] alright im out02:12
Snake[Away] cya02:12
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Arlingtonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%2902:13
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Arlingtonthere are more if you go here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryDocumentation02:13
Arlingtonthe whole wiki list. oftenly you can get very good help by searching the forums.02:14
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tkwow, someone should fix this...02:16
tkWhere FEFEFEFEFE is the WEP key in hexadecimal. Hexadecimel uses 0-F rather than 0-9 (This is base 16 with A representing 10 all the way up to F = 15 and then 10 representing 16.). This is the way all keys are specified. You should then be able to browse the web/ping. Not entirely sure but it seems sometimes you have to wait a minute or so for it to start working.02:16
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tk10 represents 16 in hex? there is no 16 in hex....02:16
Arlingtonu can change it :-)02:17
Lecheroyes there are 16 in hex but 16 in hex is 22 in dec :)02:17
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Arlingtontk:  any success?02:19
tkthere are 16, but "16" is not "10"  there is no "16" in hex 0-15 =your 16 choices.... 10-15 being A-F....02:19
Arlingtonsucess?02:19
tkArlington: havent gotten that far yet :P lookin at 2 pages, the first not so helpful02:19
Kimischgood luck! :)02:19
Arlingtontk: really hope that it helps :-) too bad if a wifi  problem should halt your linux life ;-)02:20
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Lechero16d = 0x10 = 10000b = 0x2o02:21
flaccidits a bad analogy of the base16 number system02:21
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Arlingtonthis hex talk is way above a simple law student like me :-D02:22
flaccideasiest way is base2 (decimal) goes to 1002:22
flaccidbase16 goes to 0-9,a-f02:22
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flaccidbinary is base202:22
flaccid0-102:22
krautmoin02:23
flaccidheh why am i thinking aloud02:23
tkArlington: doesnt stop it, just makes me use windows when needing inet (or using a jack) while travelling02:23
flacciderr decimal is base1002:23
tkflaccid: congrats :P02:23
Arlingtontk: the goal must be to make the total transition :-D02:23
tkArlington: slowly getting there :P atleast now I have my windows web dev and my linux web dev all using the same paths now so my work is seamless between the two :P02:24
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boguhwhich window decoration does kunbuntu use by default?02:24
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Arlingtontk: nice easier for me because my comp. usage only reach as far as internet and office use.02:25
tkhavent found a good programming environment in linux yet though... nothing as simple as notepad++ (which I guess I chould keep using it in linux.... )02:25
Lechero0xA  10d = 10010110b :)02:25
tkArlington: heh, if I setup VMware... I could probably ditch it... but, VMware can be troublesme at times02:25
Arlingtontk: there must be good software for programming?! i mean linux eing opensource and all ?02:26
Arlington*being02:26
tkLechero:  are you doing hexidecimal multiplications? :P02:26
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Lecherotk: is a multiplication of a hexidecimal and a decimal, and the result in binary :)02:26
tkLechero: ahhh, I just assumed the A d b were Hex chars :P02:27
Arlingtontk: Lechero: stop this hexadecimal things or i start dropping the EU commitment law's in here :-D02:27
Lecherono no, the d and b caracter at the end of a numbers show the base, and 0x is used for say that the number is hex02:28
tkArlington: just a matter of finding something Im comfortable with (until recently i used notepad and wordpad and vi :P) so... slowly advancing up to modern tools :P I even installed Firebug for Firefox *huge step* :P02:28
Arlingtonwhat is firebug?02:28
tkLechero: yah I knew the 0x is hex... but d and b are also hex chars so it was just a bad assumption :P02:28
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tkArlington: a nice web dev tool, lets you view the dom, hilight dom nodes, modify the pages dom elements, see javascript errors.... it makes debugging javascript and CSS stuff fairly easy :)02:29
Lecherono, B is a hex number but b isn't it, b is used for indicate that the digit is binary02:29
Arlingtontk: aaah okay nice!02:30
Lecheroat least in my university the profesor use this system02:30
Arlingtoncan someone tip me about good direct connect software for linux?02:30
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tkLechero: your math looks wrong though... shouldnt it be 1100100b?02:32
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Lecherotk yes, is wrong :) sorry lol02:33
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tkI started writing it down cause i thought I did it wrong in my head02:33
Lecheroi did the menthal operacion asuming A like F :) my brain is ofusqued02:34
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tksadly, I used to be able to do binary math in my head, but that was damn near.... 10 years ago02:35
tkaint used it since then :(02:35
Arlingtonhex math guys: does anybody of you have the possibility to tip mea bout a direct connect client?02:36
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Lecherowhat do you mean with direct connection?02:37
tkthere is... a DC++ for linux... (direct connect++)02:37
tkautomatix has an install option for it I believe02:38
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Arlingtontk:  thanks02:38
tknp, aint used DC++ in yers... it sucked back then02:39
Lecheroi was thinking in direct lynk connection using the pararell port :)02:39
Arlingtonhaha02:39
tkLechero: hehe, at first I thought directWay type stuff (dish internet :P)02:39
Arlingtontk:  really depends on hub. i know nice ones.02:39
Lecherolol02:39
Arlingtonhave to restart x. brb02:40
Lecherosee you i go to eat, it is 14:40 here :)02:40
tkcya02:40
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tkugh, wput is slow as ....02:41
tkmaybe I should have installed an ftp client02:41
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tkArlington: hubs didnt matter, it was the fact that back then you couldnt resume off another person who had the same file... had to start/finish with same person02:42
tkand you couldnt download parts from multiple people ala, limewire/kazaa/etc02:43
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Arlingtontk:  i remember :-D02:43
Arlingtonis it possible to create some sort of shortcut to media drives because i can't share my media library.02:44
tkand I didnt like that to get to a decent server you had to have bookoo's of files to share....02:44
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tkshortcut, ln -s /path/to/file/or/folder /path/to/shortcut/file/or/folder02:44
tkback then I had like a 3.2gig HD :P so... I was limited in where I could go just by that fact02:45
Arlingtontk explain much more specifik (linux user for one week ) :-)02:47
Arlingtonthat sentence was to include a please :-)02:47
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tkto create a shortcut use "ln" like so "ln -s ~/IwantAshortCutToThisFile /and/this/is/where/IwantIt02:49
tkmorning soulrider02:49
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Arlingtontk. :-S02:50
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tkthat help Arlington?02:50
soulriderhey there02:51
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tkin the process of setting up Gallery2 :)02:51
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soulridersweet! ;)02:51
Arlingtonthe thing is it's notpossible in valknut(the dc software) to share other than the etc3 discs. and i have all my medifiles on a fat32 partition.02:52
Arlingtontherefor i wondered if it was possible to link to the fat32 partitionin some way.02:52
tkArlington: why not? should be able to read from your disks i they are mounted and readable...02:52
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Arlingtonyes i play from them but there is now ay to navigate further back then ... /02:53
soulrideris there any place where we can request features for edgy ?02:53
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Arlingtonit was nothing i'am not used to mounted drives being folders under .../ i'am still partly stuck in windows regarding filesystmes.02:54
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tkArlington: how do you mean under ../?02:54
Arlingtoni just remembered that all things are files i linux world:-D02:54
tkArlington: your Fat drives should be under /media/something right?02:55
Arlingtonwith / i mean root folder.02:55
Arlingtontk: i found them there... i thought i would find them like i do in windows like drives if you understand what i mean :-) not like folders.02:55
tkohh02:55
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tkyah, no C drive and D drive in linux :P02:56
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tkok screw gallery2 for now, I'll upload it with GFTP after rtebooting02:56
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mikal_i want to install the nvidia legacy drivers (geforce ti 200). but yesterday i got only a black window and had to restart my computer. how can i switch at boot time to a login prompt?02:59
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|mikael|to prevent a new install :)02:59
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|mikael|no one there?03:02
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ubotuttf-bpg-georgian-fonts: BPG Georgian fonts. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2 (edgy), package size 295 kB, installed size 652 kB03:02
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GnarusLeousing open-ssh server ... how you do a "sudo" if i remote ssh from another machine .. it wont take my password03:04
GnarusLeodo I need to set some privelegies?03:04
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tkjust got Beryl working :)03:05
llevaneusanybody know about Jmeter?03:05
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octanGnarusLeo, ssh $(user-on-sshd-pc)@IP then just sudo.03:06
llevaneushi, can you hel me?03:06
llevaneushelp03:06
octanalso check if ther is a sudousers in /etc /on the host pc03:07
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GnarusLeoah! the user I am remoting with is not a super user03:07
Arlingtontk: wifi working03:08
Arlington?03:08
tkArlington: nah, got sidetracked with GLX stuff :)03:08
Arlington:-)03:09
octanGnarusLeo, you should disallow root login with ssh03:09
octanits not a good idea03:09
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tkthe effects of BEryl are pretty damn awesome :)03:09
octanjust log in as a user , then su root03:09
Arlingtonglx for what driver?03:09
tkArlington: nvidia03:09
tkoctan: I dont think you can su root either, I believe you have to sudo -s dont you?03:10
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llevaneushi, anybody can help me?03:10
octantk, you can su root03:10
llevaneusi need information about jmeter03:10
octanif ther is a root account03:10
octanwith password03:10
GnarusLeook03:10
octantk, i do it all the time03:10
GnarusLeoover to something else :) How do I know wich wireless adapter I have?03:11
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octanlook at it03:11
kutanI wish flashplayer didn't suck so much on linux.03:11
octanGnarusLeo, it most likely says what bran it is03:11
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flyHi, I've set up my xorg conf on "Clone" with 2 screens : LCD and TV03:12
flyeverything works except my tv frequence doesn't seems to work :/03:13
tkoctan: ahh for some reason I remember that not working before...03:13
flyany ideas what frenquences I should you use for my tv ?03:13
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octanfly, E1 or E2 or E303:14
flywhat is E1, E2 , E3 ?03:14
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octanchannels03:14
flyI have no idea03:15
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octansure... the scart plug03:15
flyOption          "TVOutFormat" "COMPOSITE"03:15
flyOption"TVStandard" "PAL-N"03:15
tkack, that was weiird03:15
flythat's not what you asked ?03:15
octanit uses E1 or E2 or E303:15
octanon your tv03:16
octanS video03:16
octaninput03:16
flyE103:16
octanfly, thouse are predifined channels03:16
octanerm.. frequnses03:16
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flyI only have to channels03:16
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flyI have the image03:16
flyit' sin color03:17
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flyhold on, i'll get my dictionnary and find the exact word -_- (need translating)03:17
flytwinkling ?03:18
octancant you just scan all the frequenses?03:18
flyI don't think you understood my problem03:18
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flymy computer on Kubuntu has 2 screens (clone) , one is my LCD screen and the other is my tv03:19
flyeverything works except there'a twinkling on my tv screen03:19
octantry to finetune the freq03:20
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flyso I just put random freq until it works ?03:21
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GnarusLeoroot@kimmern-laptop:/home/kimmern# ifconfig eth1 up03:22
GnarusLeoSIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired03:22
GnarusLeoanyone seen this before?03:22
Arlington!cedega03:23
ubotucedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega03:23
octanfdly is it a old tv ?03:23
octan*fly03:23
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|mikael|how can i switch to a prompt at boot up? if i upate my nvdia drivers i get only a black screen03:23
|mikael|is there any key-combination?03:24
octanalt F103:24
flyaound 5/6 years old03:24
|mikael|octan: at boot ?03:24
|mikael|because i get only a black screen03:24
kenanybody? im having a problem with my ekiga. i try to call the 300 and 500 echo accounts but it just hangs up after a few rings. is it a problem on my part or are these accounts offline?03:24
|mikael|i see kubuntu booting up but it doesn't switch over to kde03:24
octanfly, you should have a tuning function in your tv,, somewher in the manus03:25
flyI don't , already check that03:25
kenanyone with an ekiga account i can have a test call with? thanks.03:25
flyor at least couldn't find it03:25
octan[wait a while.. then press Alt F103:25
flybbs (testing my new xorg.conf03:25
fly)03:25
flythx octan03:25
|mikael|thx octan03:26
octanhmm.. did it work ?03:26
KRaevelis it possible to write to NTFS disks?03:26
octanno03:26
octanyes03:26
octanin windows03:26
octan:p03:26
KRaevel:-(03:27
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KRaevelcan i convert to another fs without losing the data?03:27
octanyes03:27
KRaevelyay03:27
octanthes a basick rule for that..03:27
octanbackup you data to a cd|dvd or another partiton. the format :P03:27
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bubu1ukoctan: like ur sense of humour03:28
KRaevelright, unfortunately it's 200GB03:28
hsihhhello03:28
bubu1uk:p03:28
octan:)03:28
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bubu1ukKRaevel: backup on external hdd. :p03:28
hsihhi run kubuntu on vmware player. after the next virtual-install there is no sound in kubuntu (on normal livecd mode there is sound). i made the exactly the same file (www.easyvmx.com). what`s wrong?03:29
GnarusLeoIs there a command for checking wich wireless adapter I have?03:29
tkGnarusLeo: yah one sec03:30
KRaevelbubu1uk: yeah i might just do that03:31
GnarusLeook, thanks tk03:31
tkGnarusLeo: "iwconfig |grep name"03:32
tkthat will filter out the adapters "Nickname"03:32
GnarusLeothanks03:32
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hsihhone question: why do you use kubuntu instead of ubuntu?03:35
octanbecause we like KD03:35
octanE03:35
GnarusLeoroot@kimmern-laptop:/home/kimmern# ifconfig eth1 up03:35
GnarusLeoSIOCSIFFLAGS: Timer expired03:35
GnarusLeohm, tk, what do you make of this?03:35
tkI have no idea, I dont have my wifi working :P03:37
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kumsygnomefreak: need help in changing the display resolution in kubuntu03:41
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octanGnarusLeo, pherphaps kwifimanager can help you03:42
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kumsyoctan: need help in changing the display resolution in kubuntu03:42
bubu1ukkumsy: control panel >> display03:42
GnarusLeooctan, nah .. Im using shell (kwifimanager just uses the commands I use anyways)03:42
octanalright03:42
octanndiswarpper ?03:43
GnarusLeomaybe03:43
GnarusLeoill try03:43
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kumsybubu1k: thank u03:46
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bubu1ukkumsy: np03:47
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kumsybubu1k: but i wanna reduce the refresh rate for my monitor. but theres only one refresh rate for it specified(85 hz)03:48
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bubu1ukkumsy: it might not support it then03:48
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bubu1ukkumsy: not sure03:48
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who_knows_who_i_hi, which package has a version of qmake that's 4.x.x? i installed the qt4 dev packages but my qmake is staill at a version 3.3.403:49
kumsyanyone: i wanna reduce the refresh rate for my monitor. is there any way?03:50
bubu1ukkumsy: does ur monitor support it?03:50
Arlingtonanyone cunning in cedega?!03:50
bubu1ukcuz i have those options there, so i can do it. but dont have for example 8503:50
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bubu1ukhave less03:50
kumsybubu1K: yes my monitor and chipset models are correctly specified in the control panel03:51
bubu1ukkumsy: ur monitor probably doesnt support it then.03:51
bubu1ukit even dependes on screen resolution i think.03:51
bubu1uktry lower, might be able to change it03:52
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M4X1MUMhow do i change the owner of a harddisk?03:56
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nomadsoulhi i need to install openvpn but if i do apt-cache search openvpn i get no results03:57
nomadsoulcan someone help me?03:57
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bubu1uknomadsoul: did u try to search thru adept?03:58
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nomadsoulmmm03:58
nomadsoulnope03:58
nomadsouli'm working on ubuntu-server :P03:58
M4X1MUMhow do i change the owner of a harddisk? anyone?03:58
bubu1ukjust command line? or gnome??03:58
nomadsouli was wondering if someone has a repository that contains openvpn :P03:58
nomadsoulbubu1uk: command line, of course :P03:59
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bubu1ukM4X1MUM: chown command03:59
bubu1uknomadsoul: sec03:59
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M4X1MUMok thanks04:00
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nomadsoulbubu1uk: sec?04:00
bubu1uknomadsoul: did u try just to install it?04:01
bubu1ukpackage is called openvpn04:01
nomadsoulbubu1uk: mmm i was looking for some repository04:01
nomadsouli don't think i have it in mine04:01
bubu1uktry universe repos then04:01
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nomadsoulbubu1uk: how can i enable it?04:02
bubu1uknomadsoul: what repos u have allowed?04:02
Arlingtonhow do i use a .deb file? i know it's some kind of package but how do i unpack and install?04:02
nomadsoulbubu1uk: wait i'll paste them04:02
BonBonTheJonArlington: dpkg -i file.deb04:02
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nomadsoulbubu1uk: i think i've found universe :P04:03
BonBonTheJonArlington: you need sudo in front of it04:03
bubu1uknomadsoul: just uncomment those u want in /etc/apt/sources.list04:03
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nomadsoulbubu1uk: yes, i've just seen that the source.list is well commented :P04:04
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bubu1uknomadsoul: well, as default there are only main repos allowed i think04:05
nomadsoulbubu1uk: now, by using command line, if i want the openvpn service started at boottime, what i have to look for?04:05
M4X1MUM!automatix04:05
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.04:05
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bubu1uknomadsoul: ehm, not sure in ubuntu/kubuntu04:06
bubu1uknomadsoul: try documentation04:07
LecheroAwayhahahaha i recomend "it crowd" for all the people here, hahahaha04:07
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roothow can i prevent kubuntu from booting in kde (automatically)?04:11
rooti want to stop it because kde doesn't work (the screen keeps black)04:11
rootso if i press alt-f1 i can see what it is doing at boot up04:12
rootbut it doesn't help me - i need a prompt04:12
conheTibiaPlayerLinux: X Server has no OpenGL extensions04:12
conhe=\04:12
Arlingtonis it possible to create virtualdrives in kubuntu?04:12
Arlingtonhow do i do it?04:12
rootno one who can answer me04:12
conhe!kernel04:13
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:13
octanArlington, yes its posseble04:13
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octanArlington, look up man dd and make a iso file with it then mount it :)04:13
conheTibiaPlayerLinux: X Server has no OpenGL extensions04:14
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Arlingtonwhat did u mean?04:14
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octanArlington, example... dd if=/dev/zero of=/your.iso bs=256 count=4 will make a iso file on 1 MB04:14
octanthen you mount that file like.. mount -o loop  your.iso /path04:15
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octanmkfs.ext3 /path/your.iso04:15
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Arlingtonis there any software like deamontools for windows to mount .isos04:16
octanmount -o loop04:17
octanfor godsake. this aint windows.. if you need a gui tool.. make it yourself :P or stick to command line04:17
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magical_trevskyhi, I have an "Mobile AMD Athlon XP 2000+" processor, and am using the 386 kernel at the moment.. would i notice any reasonable advantages (or disadvantages) in switching to the k7 kernel?04:18
M4X1MUMhmm yeah how to mound cd/dvd image in linux?04:18
GnarusLeoMakefile.inc:113: *** KERNELPATH: /lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/build does not exist.  Stop.04:18
octani have said it like 3 times now04:18
GnarusLeohm ... from where do I get the build04:19
octanmount -o loop  your.iso /path04:19
octanmount -o loop  your.iso /path04:19
octanmount -o loop  your.iso /path04:19
M4X1MUMthats it? no need special software or anything like that?04:19
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octan thats it04:19
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M4X1MUMwow04:19
M4X1MUMim starting to like linux04:20
M4X1MUMbut what about the cd protection stuff?04:21
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gyhuhi. what ubuntu distro is better supported?04:22
marcushi anybody happen to know the shell command for myphpadmin off hand?04:22
conheX Server has no OpenGL extensions what it?04:23
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octangyhu, dapper04:24
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M4X1MUMhow do can i share with windows network?04:25
LecheroM4X1MUM: use samba04:25
M4X1MUMok04:26
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casper_Anyone having problems getting ATI (9600) drivers to work on the latest Edgy/ kernel?04:28
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octan pls go to #ubuntu+1 for edgy04:29
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timinphx1quit04:29
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Arlingtonhow do i mount a .bin file?04:31
octanconvert it to iso04:31
octan!mount iso04:31
ubotumount: Tools for mounting and manipulating filesystems. In component main, is required. Version 2.12r-4ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 149 kB, installed size 336 kB04:31
octan!iso04:31
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:31
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domibelyou can use bchunk04:31
M4X1MUM!cue04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cue - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
Lecherothat bot has a really big db04:32
M4X1MUMso you can't mount a bin/cue image?04:32
conhe!nvidia04:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:32
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domibelbchunk - Converts BIN/CUE images to ISO 9660 tracks04:33
Lecherothere are a application for convert .cue into .iso but i dont remember the name04:33
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Lecherodomibel: you win :)04:33
simphello i have a problem with wifi if i try to connect it hangs up at 28% and after a while tells me that knetworkmanager has been dissconnected... my wifi network is secured with wpa1 tkip04:33
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M4X1MUM.iso do not store the protection files, different from bin/cue04:33
Lecherosimp: for conect to a wifi network you must to have at leas 60% for to have a normal session without cuts04:34
Dr_willisIm not even sure that bin/cue stores much.. isent that why  the Achol120% guys came out with MDF files.04:34
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simpLechero: i can see the wifi connection here as 80% but while connecting it hangs up at 28%04:35
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M4X1MUMdownloading samba!! lets hope it works04:35
Lecherosimp: i had problems with knetworkmanager too, try with wifi-radar04:36
simpLechero: thanks i'l try that04:36
kg21hi folx04:36
nukuwhich linux software has got cds with copy-protection anyway?! :)04:36
kg21i got a question04:36
kg21where can i download wordweb for kubuntu?04:36
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Dr_willisnuku,  none that i have seen.. then again.. with the  programs out now for windows.. cd copy protection seems to work for about a week.. then someone crakcs it04:37
Dr_willis!wordweb04:37
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wordweb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:37
Dr_williskg21,  never heard of it.. wht is it.04:37
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simpDr_willis: it is usually less then a week but the harder ones take a week ;)04:37
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kg21it's a english-english dictionary04:38
Lecheroonly 3 weeks for edgy... i feel really impacient04:38
Hawkwindtk: I am now, what's up ?04:38
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nukuDr_willis: sure copy protection is just to annoy honest customers anyway :)04:39
Dr_willissimp,  ive see the anti-copy protection hacks out befor the game is even released04:39
Dr_willisnuku,  i agree there - i basicially have given up on PC games04:39
simpthats true as well :)04:39
Dr_willisthat and the prices are gone through the roof.. and otehr silly gimmics.04:39
tkHawkwind: ahh nothing was setting up G2 :P but it dint go so well (slow uplink)04:39
simpDr_willis: whats the point of buying them so :)04:39
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linuxbombis there a problem with kubuntu and blender? or is it python ? or is it that i'm a dumbass because when i run blender and use it there is some wierd behaviour going on04:40
M4X1MUMooh yeah i forgot about that hahaha im only using linux for 3 days now04:40
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nukuwell the future lies in online games anyway.. so there is no need for low-level copy protection anymore :)04:40
Dr_willisnuku,  i saw yesterday if you Preordered the NeverWintersNight2 - you characters got a bonus weapon.. AND a discount at the Ingame merchants... But - thats.. basicially cheating. :)04:40
simp:D04:40
Dr_willisnuku,  too bad the MMORPGS online are so sad.04:40
Lecheroyou can play neverwinter on kubuntu?04:41
Dr_willisSecond Life is Enteraining... and free... but then you realize the whole world is XXX/Porn/Stores Selling Ingame garbage.04:41
Dr_willisLechero,  NWN has a Linux port - yes04:41
tkHawkwind: and then my wife called, so I cant upload.... now just waiting on my phone to free up so I can upload with resume on to speed it along :)04:41
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LecheroDr_willis: but must to be original? or its possibly to play to the cracked version?04:42
nukuDr_willis: true.. when its about money its about pr0n :/04:42
Manyfoldi enable the nvidia module but glx is still slow with glxgears with framerates < 30004:42
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Manyfoldwhat cani do04:43
Manyfold?04:43
simpLechero: what is the wpa driver thingy what should i put there?04:43
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Lecheroi dont understand that04:43
M4X1MUMok ive installed samba, now what?04:44
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M4X1MUMhow do i share and access windows network?04:44
LecheroM4X1MUM: now you must read a samba manual04:44
linuxbombLechero: good help04:44
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simpLechero: sorry i might be bad at explaining: if i go and edit/add a network... then there is this WPA tag... there is this place that says driver what should i put in there?04:45
M4X1MUMoooh wow it work, now i just need to find out how to share my directory....gaaaah my directory is ext3!!! not NTFS04:45
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,   you want to access shares on a windows machine? or have windows access your linux home shares?04:46
Dr_willisThe filesystem of a share does NOT matter04:46
Lecherosimp i am sorry but i dont use wpa :(04:46
Dr_willisYou may want to read the "Using Samba Book" thats online  to get a handle on the fundamentals.04:46
simpok then thanks anyway :)04:46
M4X1MUMwindows access shared directory04:46
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Dr_willisto get windows to access your home shares.. you need tomake a samba password for your linux user.04:47
Dr_willissudo  smbpasswd -a USERNAMEHERE04:48
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raniotest04:48
M4X1MUMmy account username?04:48
Dr_willisYou also may want to edit the  /etc/samba/smb.conf   to set the home shares to be writeable04:48
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M4X1MUMoooh no i just want the shared folder to be read-only04:49
Dr_willisYour linux username/login/   that you wish to have home shared.04:49
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raniosomebody help~ how can I run .wmv file?04:49
Dr_willisKDE has a samba confguration front end as well.. but i rarely use it04:49
M4X1MUMyou can't set which directory you want to set?04:49
M4X1MUMwant to share* i meant04:50
Dr_willisranio,  install the w32codecs package, and be lucky,. try vlc/xine/mplayer04:50
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  this is linux.. of COURSE you can.04:50
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  but by default the users Homes are set up to be shared.04:50
raniothanks, I wil try it04:50
M4X1MUMwooow thats bad04:50
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Dr_williscontrol center -> internet -> samba04:50
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  no its not..04:50
RawSewagewhere is the php.ini I change04:50
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  they are not shared untill you just installed samba, and set up that password.04:51
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  and even then.. they re default read only04:51
M4X1MUMooh04:51
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Dr_willisand theres that KDE bugglet again in the samba control  center applet.04:51
Dr_willisresize the window to see all the buttons. :)04:51
RawSewageanyone know where I can find php.ini  .  I found 2, but those dont seem to be the rigth ones04:52
RawSewageI need to increase php memory from 8mb to 48mb04:52
M4X1MUMerrr, control center is the same as system settings?04:52
M4X1MUMi dont see any samba there04:52
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Dr_willisI may ofinstalled it.. i got one right there04:53
Dr_willisactually i use the quick icon in the taskbar called 'settings' :)04:53
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fazu guys know how can i install my ATI graphic card drivers installed on Kubuntu?04:53
Dr_willisand the gui i am accessing is called 'control center' in the titlebar04:54
Dr_willisthe other settings gui - may be a little diffeently laidout/tweaked04:54
M4X1MUMoooh man so different04:54
M4X1MUMim using kubuntu04:54
Dr_willisRight click panel -> add applet --> settings04:54
Dr_willisSO am i M4X1MUM04:55
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Dr_willistheres just different ways to get to the different tools04:55
Dr_willisI perfer the Settings Applet on the taskbar04:55
M4X1MUMaaah i see samba in the setting icon04:55
Dr_willis'system settings' is sort of a dumbed down interface compared to 'control center'04:56
M4X1MUMoooh04:56
M4X1MUMi always thought they are the same thing04:56
Dr_willisrun ----->  kcontrol            then run  'system settings' icon04:57
Dr_willisand compare the 204:57
Dr_willisthey access the same tools.. but the layout is different04:57
M4X1MUMok i've open the samba window and maximize it, shouldn't the window have a scroll bar if content is outside the viewport?04:57
Dr_williskcontrol is the old way i think.. and system settings is a smarter way04:57
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  theres some buglets04:58
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  ya see a administrator mode button at the bottom?04:58
M4X1MUMyes04:58
Dr_willisthen you are lucky :)04:58
Dr_willisdepends on the screen res. the window gets resized where thats not seen on some machines04:58
simphello i have a problem with wifi if i try to connect it hangs up at 28% and after a while tells me that knetworkmanager has been dissconnected... my wifi network is secured with wpa1 tkip04:59
Dr_willisthe fix is to alt-click drat the window UP some.. then grab the bottom frame and expand the window down..04:59
frankkmAdmiral_Chicago: I have installed ffmpeg, and I followed the link you send me, but when I did it, it told me that I missed a codec04:59
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis: does that mean the devs installs a standard KDE system, then tinker with the menus?04:59
M4X1MUMwell i only see the button partially though04:59
Dr_willisTHEN it seems to figure out the res and does it right from then on04:59
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  allteh disrtos ive seen with KDE - tweak the kde stuff. BUT also the actual kde devs  are constantly twiddling with things.05:00
Dr_willisGENTOO i think is the only disrto ive seen that uses a Vanilla KDE layout05:00
Dr_willisbut i could be wrong in some of this information05:00
Dr_willisI do belive the "trashcan on the panel" is a Kubuntu 'idea' which i much perfer.05:00
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis: I have been trying to find out how you install a clutter-free KDE system on other distros, but no one seems to know, however one person did suggest everything was there, but that the menus had been suitable modified05:02
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M4X1MUMalright in samba window, the security level is changed to shared, and windows still need to login to read the files?05:02
M4X1MUMwindows user*05:02
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  as far as i know Gentoo uses the KDE default.. now wether that is Clutter-free is the next question. ;P05:02
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  yes.. that makes sence..05:02
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  also you may need to restart the samba services for the changes to take effect05:03
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: hmmm I got kororaa installed, let me see...05:03
M4X1MUMis it possible to allow the windows user to read the files without login?05:03
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  i looked at that once. :)05:04
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  you can make a public share.05:04
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  samba has so many features it would make your head explode05:04
M4X1MUMyeah its scary just looking at this samba setting screen so many stuff05:05
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: I trashed my gentoo system accidently & could not face going through all that stuff again, so I installed kororaa as a short cut :-)05:05
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  thats why a read of that Using Samba BOok is nice . to get you up to speed on what all is going on.05:05
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  ahh.. I rember kororaa now.. tried it.. lasted a day.. :P went back to Kubuntu05:05
M4X1MUMhow do i set the file view to details instead of icons all the time?05:06
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Dr_willissave it as the default profile.05:07
Dr_willisSeen that asked befor. :)05:07
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Dr_willissettings -> save view profile05:08
Dr_willismake up several if ya like. :)05:08
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TheGateKeeperDr_willis: actually it's not bad, not too far away from kubuntu, got the trash can in the taskbar, but slower to load than, goodness knows what arch are doing, but it's fast!!05:09
TheGateKeeperslower than arch*05:09
Dr_willisi read up on arch.. and some of the things they are doing... just scare me away05:09
TheGateKeeperlike?05:09
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M4X1MUMi still feels a bit weird, not used to the way files is stored in linux :(05:10
Dr_williswell ive only messed with the live cd of it.. but some of the rants i hear are... screwy init system. removal of docs to save space...05:10
Dr_willisand other tweaks because 'they wanted to'05:10
Dr_willisbut ya would have read up on arch and get through all the 'we are cool' posts/docs they like to brag about. :)05:10
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Dr_willis:)05:11
Dr_willishttp://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/gnu/gnuzilla/05:11
MistaEDDr_willis: how does packman compare with apt/deb?05:12
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: hmmm I just installed it to see what it was like, I like what I see apart from not being able to install KDE the way I want it :-(05:12
Dr_willisMistaED,  only used the live cd . so cant really tellya05:12
MistaEDfair enough05:12
Dr_willisTheGateKeeper,  vmware to the rescue :)05:12
Dr_willisvmare lets me test out other disrtos now - safely :)05:12
Dr_willisdownloading some PCLinuxOS-gamers cd right now.05:13
proogAdmiral_Chicago: My friend frankkm installed ffmpeg and we tryed to convert the flv file, but its said that there was a missing codec05:13
Dr_willisPCLinuxOS  - seems odd in some ways as well.05:13
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M4X1MUMaaah the save view profile doesn't really work05:14
tmdx120Hello all. How can I get my palm to sync with Kontact?05:14
Dr_willisthe PCLOS SuperGamer-1 system  http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/613605:14
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  it worked for me.05:14
TheGateKeeperDr_willis: I have an old P3 test box, from some of the stuff I have heard edge might have to go on it before it makes it to my main box05:14
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  i just saved it as the  main profile and its the default on a new window opening05:14
M4X1MUMi want to have detailed view by default for all viewing of directory05:14
Dr_willisset up the file manager how ya like.. save the profile    'save view profile "kubuntu file manager" ' is what i did05:15
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Dr_willisand its rembered as the default one now05:15
prooganyone knows something about ffmpeg and can help me?05:15
Dr_willisthere used tobe a lot of example view profiles out you could install05:16
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M4X1MUMaaarghh i need to load the profile all the time05:16
Goffihi05:17
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Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  what name did you save the profile as?05:17
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simpwhere is konqueror located?05:17
Goop2my sound dosent work, it used to, nothing changed, and its not muted05:17
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Goop2its not plugged in either.. nevermind =P05:18
Dr_williswhich konqueror05:18
Dr_willis/usr/bin/konqueror05:18
Dr_willis:)05:18
M4X1MUMKubuntu File manager, dang i set shift+m minimize the window now i cannot type capital m lol05:18
Dr_willisM4X1MUM,  i just used the save..and dident even enter a new name05:18
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Dr_willisthe menu item said  "save profile "Kubuntu File Manager"'  soi let it save it over the  original :)05:19
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M4X1MUMok05:20
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Dr_willisIf theres a hard way to do it... M4X1MUM  will find a harder way! :)05:22
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baldihow can i deinstall the ati-driver?05:24
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M4X1MUMaaaaaah it works05:28
Jucatoexcuse me, how would I know if the "box" given by my ISP is a modem or a router? (ADSL PPPoE)05:28
fdovingheh.. find the name and number and google it?05:28
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fdoving( #kubuntu-offtopic by the way )05:28
Jucatowell, it's brand is the name of the ISP?05:28
fdovingno clue.05:29
Jucatofdoving: actually it will become ontopic in a few moments... (I have follow up questions...)05:29
fdovingah. ok :)05:29
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Jucatonvm then.. :(05:29
ace!kde05:29
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE05:29
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M4X1MUMok next problem! my ktorrent is telling me the directory is not accessible.....the directory owner is me, and why the heck is it still not accessible?05:30
aceubotu, sudo05:31
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:31
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nukuJucato: you could try nmap -O ...05:31
M4X1MUMthe error is actually "permission denied"05:31
Jucatonuku: thanks. I'll try that05:31
M4X1MUMshould i just do chmod 777?05:31
aceM4X1MUM: I dont know alot about this but the same eror was gien to me by the test editor and i used sudo05:31
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fdovingM4X1MUM: depends on what it is, and what you want, really.05:32
Strahlung-Alphahi folks05:32
octanM4X1MUM, ls -ls /torrent dir05:32
zorglu_M4X1MUM: could you put your nick in lower caps please.05:32
M4X1MUMi want to allow ktorrent to be able to write onto the directory05:32
octan*ls -la05:32
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octanm4x1mum, chown YOU:useres /torrent-dir && chmod 755 /torent-dir05:33
octan*YOU:users05:33
m4x1mumdrwxr-xr-x 10 max adm  4096 2006-10-04 21:51 Files05:33
zorglu_m4x1mum: thanks05:33
m4x1mumthats the result05:34
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octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir && chmod 755 /torent-dir05:34
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octanthat should fix it05:34
m4x1mumliterally "YOU" ?05:35
octanno05:35
octanyour username05:35
m4x1mumaah ok05:35
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m4x1mumhow about the sub-dir?05:35
octando like this05:36
octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir/*05:36
octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir/*/05:36
octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir/*/*05:36
octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir/*/*/05:36
octanm4x1mum,  chown YOU:users /torrent-dir/*/*//05:36
octanso on05:36
m4x1mumwhooooaaa05:36
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zorglu_or "chown -R YOU:users /torrent-dir" :)05:36
octanzorglu_, does that the subdirs?05:37
zorglu_btw -R works for chmod too05:37
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octan--recursive :)05:37
zorglu_octan: yes it applies reccursively to all the subfiles/dir05:37
octanyes i saw..05:37
octanjust looked it up in man05:37
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m4x1mumi thought is small letter "r"05:37
Jucatohow do I share internet connection between Linux and Windows? connection is ADSL PPPoE using a router...05:38
octanmaquerade05:38
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octanor forward05:38
zorglu_currently you got some admin tools doing it for you05:39
fdovingJucato: guidedog05:39
zorglu_all the NAT+ip_forward stuff05:39
octanJucato, can you loginto the router ?05:39
nukuJucato: on easy way is to use something like "firestarter" ..you'll get a basic setup from it...05:39
nukubut on the otherhand its better to configure manually :)05:40
fdovingJucato: that's if you want your linux box to be connected to the adsl-box, and your windows box to be connected to the linux box or share hub/switch with it.05:40
Jucatowell basically they each can connect to the internet, but not at the same time. one has to be disconnected...05:40
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Jucatofdoving: they're both connected directly to the router05:40
fdovingJucato: can they connect to each other?05:40
zorglu_Jucato: the 'router' being the adsl box from your isp ?05:40
Jucatozorglu_: yes05:41
Jucatofdoving: err... I don't know.. :(05:41
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zorglu_Jucato: your PC are connected to your adsl box via ethernet ?05:41
fdovingJucato: do you get a private (192.168.x.x/10.x.x.x/172.x.x.x) ip or a public one?05:41
Jucatozorglu_: yes05:41
octanJucato, way retarded way is to set you router to forward all traffic from the windows pc to the linux bc.. then on linux pc for all traffic fom the windows pc to the router05:42
zorglu_Jucato: usualy in those case, you got a web site on the adsl box, and some option already exists to share the connection05:42
Jucatofdoving: I think it's a public one05:42
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zorglu_Jucato: words like 'share' / 'forwarding' / 'nat' somewhere05:42
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Jucatozorglu_: ok I'll try searching...05:43
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fdovingJucato: i figure since you have to use pppoe the box itself doesn't do any routing. you have to connect a pc to dial and all. right?05:43
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CatSouphow do i network my new kubuntu box onto my linksys router so that my other windows computer can see it?05:44
nukuwell there a couple of hybrid boxes acting both as router or as a modem05:44
Jucatofdoving: I just enter the username and password that the ISP gave05:44
zorglu_yep, my adsl box does a lot05:44
fdovingJucato: do you have to setup pppoe on each box?05:45
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mationuff05:46
Jucatooh krap... they're saying it's not a router after all... :(05:46
octanlol05:46
Jucatoa multi-port modem....??? :(05:47
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octanJucato, do you got 2 network cards in your pc?05:47
octanlinux ppx05:47
octan*pc05:47
Jucatooctan: no. :(05:47
zorglu_you dont need 2 cards05:48
nukuyou can assign virtual devices05:48
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octan:\ it would made your life easyer05:48
nukulike eth0:105:48
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Jucatoone ethernet card on the PC, one on the lappy...05:48
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octannuku, thats not posseble with nat. i was thisking like .. Modem ---> eth0 Linuxbox eth1 ---> windows05:49
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nukuoctan: why wouldn't that be possible?  modem->eth0:0 eth:0:1->windows05:49
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octannuku, and where would you connect the 2nd tcp/ip cable?05:50
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nukuinto the hub05:50
fdovingoctan: if the modem is multiport and act like a hub.. that would be possible.05:50
octanhe dosent have that05:50
zorglu_no need to another cable05:50
KrAmMeRdoes anyone know how to extract rar files, the ones that are packaged where you would usually extract the first rar file in the folder and it does the rest?05:50
octanalright05:50
Jucatooh please explain that :)05:51
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nuku!info unrar05:51
ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB05:51
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KrAmMeRyeh05:51
KrAmMeRi got this05:51
KrAmMeRhttp://download.gna.org/unrar/05:51
octanJucato, make like this.. ifconfig eth0:1 IP up05:51
zorglu_the window connection the linux and the linux connect the adsl box, all happening with MAC address on a single ethernet linkx05:51
KrAmMeRinstalled it05:52
KrAmMeRbut its not working or im just typing in the wrong command05:52
zorglu_the window must hook the linux as gateway05:52
octanthen you do.. like iptables -t nat POSTROUTING -i eth0 -j ACCEPT05:52
zorglu_the linux must do ip forward + nat from the adsl to the window05:52
octanerm eth0:005:52
zorglu_i already did it05:52
Jucatozorglu_: I only have one NIC card. is that possible?05:52
nukuKrAmMeR: use the one in the repositories not a manual installation..05:53
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KrAmMeRwhere do i get that05:53
fdovingJucato: if you have multiple ports on the modem it can be.05:53
Jucatooctan: I will try this. so it's the ifconfig comman d first, then the iptables command? need to use sudo on both?05:53
KrAmMeR?05:53
nuku!repository05:53
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:53
zorglu_Jucato: do you have a hub, something which would allow your window to talk to your linux and your linux to talk to your adsl box05:53
KrAmMeRok thanks05:53
nukuenable multiverse and install "unrar"05:53
zorglu_Jucato: a hub or any kind of cable solution to do so05:53
nukuvia adept or whatever you use as a package manager05:53
KrAmMeRk05:54
octanJucato, well you need to setup a 2 ip on eth card.. and use eth0:1 's ip as the gateway on windows05:54
Jucatozorglu_: no... but it seems that the "router" is actually just a multi port modem... would that do?05:54
zorglu_Jucato: e.g. linux -> hub, adsl -> hub, window -> hub would have only 1 card per box05:54
m4x1mumwhats a good torrent client? ktorrent seems too simple05:54
nukum4x1mum: azureus05:54
Jucatooctan: oh... any guide on how I could do this?05:55
zorglu_Jucato: no idea what is a 'multiport modem' :) if it is a hub, aka if the window can talk to the linux thru it, it is ok05:55
m4x1mumwhoaa azureus is abit heavy weight kind05:55
octannop.. use you head and draw a sheme.. it make it easyer05:55
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KrAmMeRnuku: i cant find it05:55
zorglu_Jucato: but i find surprising that a adsl box able to receive multiple ehternet cable is not able to share the adsl between them05:55
Jucatozorglu_: same here.05:55
nukuKrAmMeR: have you enabled multiverse? and did and update?05:56
zorglu_Jucato: to provide multiple plug is more expensive and would be useless without ability to share the connection05:56
nuku(read the link above)05:56
Jucatook probably a simpler question: how can I check if Linux and Windows can see each other through the box?05:56
KrAmMeRi typed that in adept and it doens't show up05:56
octanzorglu_, his ips is porbealy block him05:56
octani mean the other pc05:56
JucatoKrAmMeR: you need to enable multiverse05:56
octanmy modem works only on 1 mac05:56
Jucato!multiverse05:56
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:56
nukuJucato: assign internal ip address on both and ping :)05:56
JucatoKrAmMeR:  ^^^05:56
zorglu_Jucato: depends, you can simply ping each other, or try to generate trafic on window and use tcpdump on the linux05:57
KrAmMeR<---newbie05:57
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KrAmMeRok i'll try agian05:57
juntii need help :0(05:57
zorglu_Jucato: are you 100% sure the adsl box is unable to do it ?05:57
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nomadsoulgosh it's the 3rd time that the graphical installer crash.. is there any command-line installer or ncurses installer?05:58
Jucatozorglu_: well, I can't connect to the internet at the same time... if Linux is connected, Windows can't or vice-versa05:58
rancehey guys, I just installed kubuntu and got my system running, looks very nice, great job all05:58
juntii opened a mp3stream file in amarok, but I cant hear anything. I#m an absolutely rookie. Installed the system yesterday05:58
nukuJucato: thats not the point.. check if dhclient obtains an ip address from the box05:59
nukuJucato: not via pppoe05:59
m4x1mumaaaargh this crappy konquerer just keep crashing on me!!05:59
nukuJucato: and then you might be able to use a browser to set it up05:59
Jucatonuku: er... how? (sorry, new at this...)05:59
KrAmMeRnuku: ok there enabled05:59
zorglu_Jucato: yep this mean your current configuration doesnt work, but the box may still be able to do it. i insist because im surprised about those multiple plug and because all the alternatives are not real nice (e.g. double traffic on the link and force to keep the linux ON to use window)05:59
m4x1mumjunti: hei i got same problem too05:59
nukuJucato: dhclient ethX .. and see if it gets an ip06:00
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junti@m4x1mum: Did you solve the problem?06:00
nukuJucato: if you get an ip than you can probably connect to x.x.x.1 with a browser...06:00
m4x1mumnope i have no idea whats wrong, i just installed kubuntu a few days ago06:00
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m4x1mumstill setting up the system :(06:00
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Jucatonuku: I need sudo for that?06:00
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nukuJucato: sure..06:01
m4x1mummy torrent doesn't work, mp3 doesn;t work video doesn't work06:01
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zorglu_m4x1mum: bad day hey :)06:01
m4x1mummy nividia driver installation is unsuccessful too06:01
nukum4x1mum: what RIAA would think about it :p *scnr*06:01
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juntim4x1mum: Thanks for the moral support ;o). I will read all the topics...there is still time until the soccer match starts..Greetiing friom germany06:02
m4x1mumlol06:02
KrAmMeRnuku: there enabled now, do i have to do anything else?06:02
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nukuKrAmMeR: click on fetch updates and then you should find unrar06:03
Jucatonuku: I connect through PPPoE, not DHCP... will dhclient still work?06:03
KrAmMeRok thanks06:03
Arlingtonis there a system requirement page to view for kubutntu?06:03
KrAmMeRmaybe this is why my sound for video clips or mp3's doesn't work either06:04
KrAmMeR...06:04
m4x1mumand its freakin midnight damn, so many things to do, so little time06:04
nukuJucato: well it will break your connection probably :) most important is if you get an ip via dhcp or not .. best without pppoe06:04
nukuJucato: and if you do so if you can connect to the box with a browser..06:04
nukuif not.. you most likely got a modem only box :p06:05
nukuKrAmMeR: yes.. you have to install libxine-extracodecs thats also not in the repositories enabled per default :)06:05
KrAmMeR: )06:05
zorglu_!codecs06:06
saleshi06:06
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:06
nukublame frauenhofer and the whole software patent lobby for this :)06:06
zorglu_KrAmMeR: the first link will help for the audio/video problem :)06:06
KrAmMeRthats annoying they should change that lol06:06
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larson9999i don't mind software patents but they are patenting things that should be patented.  ugh!06:07
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nukulike mp3? ;)06:07
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m4x1mumthose patents dont last forever, they can expire i think06:08
puttlickr det ngon som lyckats installera XGL?06:08
nukuwell like in 20 years :)06:08
larson9999nuku: i think the test is supposed to be something that wouldn't be 'obvious' to those in the field.06:08
m4x1mumunfortunaly so..lol06:09
jonatanputtlick: prova paa engelska, responsen blir nog baettre daa06:09
zorglu_!se06:09
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se06:09
fdovingJucato: maybe this can help you somehow: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7EOCYI34.html06:09
zorglu_jonatan: did i guess right ? :)06:09
KrAmMeRuniverse sources is takin foreever06:09
nukularson9999: sure thats a basic criteria in most patent laws anyway .. like "inventive step"06:09
jonatanzorglu_: yea06:09
m4x1mumok im gonna sleep, im gonna start the battle with kubuntu tomorrow!!06:09
m4x1mumLinux Wars: Episode 2!! Coming Soon tomorrow06:10
nukubut this still leads to many restrictions on things that may get "standards"06:10
jonatanheck, I'm swedish and even I find it annoying when people use it in the english channels06:10
Jucatofdoving: thanks I'll try it06:10
larson9999nuku: yeah, but they want to patent everything the first time it's done.  that's what get's me.06:10
KrAmMeRwhat exactly are repositories?06:10
jonatanKrAmMeR: basically a small space on another server that holds a lot of packages in a database06:10
KrAmMeRk06:11
zorglu_!repo06:11
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:11
nukularson9999: sure .. there are really alot of trivial patent but still there are other things that may be not THAT trivial but the patent claims come AFTER the thing is established (like mp3/gif/...)06:11
nukubut i guess we are getting offtopic :)06:12
zorglu_hehe :) just at the moment i were writing about about offtopi c:)06:12
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jonatanyou know, they could solve the entire patent debate by just making the patent duration reflect the speed of development in the field06:12
jonatan"software patent? Sure, you can have one. Our deluxe option expires in 2 months "06:12
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KrAmMeRhaving trouble finding libxine-extracodecs06:14
KrAmMeROoOO06:15
KrAmMeRwait a min06:15
KrAmMeRi have updated06:15
KrAmMeRupdates06:15
zorglu_!info libxine-extracodecs06:15
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB06:15
zorglu_KrAmMeR: get multiverse06:15
KrAmMeRyeh i just did but i need to update it more06:16
zorglu_:) once is enougth :)06:16
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Jucatomake sure that you  added the correct multiverse repo06:17
KrAmMeRbeats me i updated it once already and then it showed up again06:17
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KrAmMeRso maybe it didn't go through06:17
nuku*/5 * * * aptitude update :p06:17
nukufor the crontab fans around :p06:17
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HawkwindMight be a crontab fan, but not aptitude that's for sure06:18
nukuhehe :)06:19
nukujust kidding06:19
nukuwe all demand the bleeding edge :)06:19
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ubuntu_Hi! I am just testing the kubuntu edgy live cd. Can someone tell me, why OpenOffice is the default office suit, and not KOffice?06:25
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puttlickDoes anyone know if you could install compiz running KDE?06:29
BatmanXhi .. anyone know if there's an issue with Dapper and a fireGL2 video card? .. all I get is a hang on "Uncompressing kernel"06:30
nukuputtlick: yes you can .. it will just replace kwin ..06:30
nukuyou will keep kicker and stuff..06:31
puttlickNuku: okey, I was reading som guide saying I couldn't...06:31
nukugo for beryl anway its much easier to configure and such..06:32
puttlickIwanna run XGL but everything just fucks up06:32
jonatanhmm06:32
jonatansome help required06:32
KrAmMeRnuku: im still gettin errors06:32
KrAmMeRdo i need to restart?06:33
nuku.. #ubuntu-xgl is for this kind of questions :)06:33
jonatanI want to create a separate user account without administrator privileges06:33
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jonatando I just make sure not to add it to the admin group ?06:33
puttlickNuku: thx didn't know it existed ;P06:33
nukuKrAmMeR: what errors?06:33
BatmanXjonatan: yes06:33
jonatanwhat about the adm group06:33
jonatanshould I leave that as well06:33
KrAmMeRnuku: an error occured while trying to open the archive06:34
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Samuli^hey gnomefreak, would you mind cancelling my ban on #ubuntu?06:34
nukuKrAmMeR: using unrar?! maybe your archive is broken :)06:34
KrAmMeRlemme try command line06:34
KrAmMeRi thought it would just work normally06:34
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GnarusLeoHave anyone got ubuntu to work with Prism drivers (Network Adapter) ?? How do I do this?06:34
KrAmMeR...i did install another unrar program manually06:34
KrAmMeRmaybe thats messing withit06:35
nukupossibly..06:35
KrAmMeRhow do i uninstall that one06:35
nukubut its just a single executeable so chances are very small06:35
KrAmMeRk06:35
KrAmMeRlemme try command line06:35
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KrAmMeRnope06:36
KrAmMeRstill doesn't work06:36
nukuunrar x ...rar ?06:36
KrAmMeRyeh06:36
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nukuso..its likely your archive thats broken :/06:36
KrAmMeRunrar -x filename06:36
puttlickdpkg: efterfrgad operation krver superanvndarbehrighet wtf?06:36
nukuoh not -x just x06:37
KrAmMeRoh06:37
GnarusLeoputtlick, sudo unrar x file06:37
KrAmMeRim already root06:37
GnarusLeoputtlick, sorry :) sudo dpkg -i file06:37
KrAmMeRsudo -s06:37
GnarusLeooh .. beats me06:38
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nukuyou dont need to be root.. more you should not be root when doing no administrative stuff :)06:38
KrAmMeRit says unrar: invalide archive06:38
BatmanXthen its an invalid archive06:38
KrAmMeRit says unrar: invalide archive "x" bad address06:38
KrAmMeRdamit06:38
KrAmMeRok06:38
KrAmMeRthat sucs06:38
KrAmMeRim gonna download something small06:39
KrAmMeRand see if it work06:39
nuku?06:39
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KrAmMeRto unrar06:39
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puttlickganarusleo: Thx ;)06:41
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KrAmMeRalright so if this doens't work then i think it might be the other rar program that i installed06:43
HawkwindKrAmMeR: unrar e file.rar06:43
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: That is the proper syntax to unrarring a .rar file with unrar06:44
KrAmMeRok i'll try that06:44
nomadsouldoes kubuntu have an ncurses installer? the graphical one crashes..06:44
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Hawkwindnomadsoul: The alternate CD has ncurses, yes06:44
GnarusLeoHave anyone got ubuntu to work with Prism drivers (Network Adapter) ?? How do I do this?06:44
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nomadsoulHawkwind: i'm talking about the normal kubuntu cd06:44
KrAmMeRHawkwind: nope got the same error06:44
nomadsoul6.06 with LTS06:45
Hawkwindnomadsoul: What do you call 'normal' ??  There is the alternate CD, and then the 'desktop' CD which is the Live CD06:45
nomadsoulHawkwind: the one that canonical ship you at home06:46
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Can you do an ls in that directory with the files and then run the command, and paste all of that into http://pastebin.ulteo.us so I can see it please06:46
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Hawkwindnomadsoul: That would be the 'desktop' Live CD, which is graphical.  Use the alternate CD which is a full blown installer06:46
KrAmMeRsure just a sec06:46
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Make sure you paste the command(s) you do as well please06:46
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Samuli^what was the command to get root access for infinite amount on that window?06:48
Samuli^something like su -sh?06:48
nomadsoulsudo su06:48
HawkwindSamuli^: sudo -i or sudo su or you can even create a traditional root account real easily if you wanted06:48
gnomefreakSamuli^: are you done with the language that you used?06:49
KrAmMeRHawkwind: ok its pasted in06:49
KrAmMeRand posted06:49
HawkwindKrAmMeR: You need to paste us the resulting URL06:49
Samuli^gnomefreak, yeah, sorry about that. I was very tired :)06:49
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Hawkwindabattoir: Good afternoon!06:49
KrAmMeRlol06:49
KrAmMeRsorry06:49
KrAmMeRhttp://pastebin.ulteo.us/13806:49
gnomefreakSamuli^: give me a minute or 206:50
abattoirhi Hawkwind :)06:50
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: Hmmm, maybe you got a bad download and those aren't actually rar files.  Though seems unlikely06:51
KrAmMeRyeh they could be bad06:51
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KrAmMeRim downloading something else right now06:51
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Have you run 'file lmg-tyfsmoking-dvdr.part045.rar'  to see if it tells you what kind of file it is ?06:51
KrAmMeRthat will have to extract the same way06:51
gnomefreakdone06:51
KrAmMeRwell its a rar file06:52
KrAmMeR...06:52
KrAmMeR.rar06:52
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KrAmMeRright?06:52
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Does it tell you that when you run that command ?06:52
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: Anyone could change the filename to a .rar and call it a rar file when originally could be something totally different06:52
KrAmMeRyes06:52
KrAmMeRit says its a RAR file06:53
KrAmMeRrar archive data06:53
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Hm strange.  You do have unrar installed I assume.  If you didn't it would tell you unrar isn't a command06:53
HawkwindKrAmMeR: dpkg -l unrar06:53
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KrAmMeRyeh i do06:53
KrAmMeRi installed it manually06:53
KrAmMeRwhen i was trying to get it to work before06:54
HawkwindAhhh, why ?06:54
HawkwindYou should just apt-get it06:54
KrAmMeRcuz i didn't know about he repositories06:54
KrAmMeR: /06:54
HawkwindYou should always use what's in the repos first and foremost06:54
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KrAmMeRnothing was comin up when i typed unrar06:54
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Uninstall that one, add the right repos, and then sudo apt-get install unrar06:54
KrAmMeRso i had to get them06:54
Hawkwind!info unrar06:54
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ubotuunrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB06:54
KrAmMeRi have the right reposiories now06:54
HawkwindKrAmMeR: It's in multiverse06:54
KrAmMeRbut they must be conflicting06:54
KrAmMeRyeh i have that now06:55
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: Uninstall the unrar you have now first06:55
KrAmMeRso run this command06:55
KrAmMeRdpkg -l unrar06:55
KrAmMeR?06:55
KrAmMeRwhich one...06:55
HawkwindI assume you compiled unrar ?06:55
KrAmMeRyea06:55
HawkwindAs in did a make sudo make install06:56
HawkwindThen from within that directory you did all that, do a sudo make uninstall06:56
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KrAmMeRna i download it from somewhere06:56
KrAmMeRthen did ./configure06:56
KrAmMeRand the rest06:56
HawkwindRIght06:56
HawkwindGo to the directory that you did all that in, and type: sudo make uninstall06:56
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KrAmMeReek06:57
KrAmMeRi think i just ran it from the desktop06:57
KrAmMeRlol06:57
KrAmMeRbut ok06:57
HawkwindIt'll error if you don't do it from within the directory of the source06:57
abattoirgnomefreak: hi, do you know if i can chroot from a 32-bit system into a 64-bit one?06:57
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KrAmMeRk06:58
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KrAmMeRnot sure if it worked06:58
KrAmMeRnothing to be done for "uninstalled-am"06:59
HawkwindKrAmMeR: sudo apt-get install unrar06:59
KrAmMeRk06:59
puttlickbash: cd: kwintv-0.8.5: tkomst nekas? Kubuntu is just bringing shit for me right now...06:59
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KrAmMeRsays its not there07:00
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar07:00
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KrAmMeRHawkwind: its workin now07:01
KrAmMeRim gonna copy that command down07:01
KrAmMeR: )07:01
WALI need some help getting firefox and "make"07:01
HawkwindKrAmMeR: So unrar installed now ?07:01
HawkwindWAL: sudo apt-get install firefox07:01
WALI get an error07:02
HawkwindWAL: What's the error ?07:02
WALI'm new to Kubuntu, I think I have issue with my repositories07:02
HawkwindWAL: Have you added all the repositories already ?07:02
WALHawkwind: I've added some, not sure if I've done the right ones07:02
Hawkwind!repos > WAL07:02
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KrAmMeRHawkwind: yeh but then it failed to fetch when installed again07:03
HawkwindWAL: Follow what the bot just told ya07:03
KrAmMeR"installing"07:03
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Paste the complete error to http://pastebin.ulteo.us07:03
puttlickwhy does it say tkomsn nekas when i'm using cd?07:03
WALHawkwind: should those be the only two?07:04
USER020871moldova07:04
HawkwindWAL: You really want/need universe and multiverse.  Make sure you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list appropriately07:04
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KrAmMeRHawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/13907:06
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and make all instances of us.archive.ubuntu.com just simply:  archive.ubuntu.com  and then run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install unrar again07:07
sarimanohi07:07
KrAmMeRk07:08
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octanJucato i forgot to tell you.. you should also put ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.1 in that script.-. before iptables07:09
WALHawkwind: different error now07:09
WALshould I paste in PM?07:09
HawkwindWAL: Paste the command(s) you performed and the errors to http://pastebin.ulteo.us07:09
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Jucatooctan: lol I thought so :)07:09
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octansorry about that07:10
WALHawkwind: it's there07:10
HawkwindWAL: You need to paste us the resulting URL please07:10
WALHawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14007:11
HawkwindWAL: Then you don't have your repos setup accordingly07:11
HawkwindWAL: Can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list file into http://pastebin.ulteo.us as well please07:11
WALyep07:12
KrAmMeRHawkwind: its not letting me save the file07:12
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: You need to edit it as root.   Try: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list07:12
HawkwindKrAmMeR: You can of course replace kwrite with kate or whatever GUI editor you want07:12
KrAmMeRk07:12
HawkwindKrAmMeR: If you prefer vi, then just do: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list07:13
WALHawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14107:13
HawkwindWAL: There is your problem.  You only have universe and multiverse.  You need main and other repos as well07:13
josh_ok guys... i just did a fresh install of linux on my new drive... i dont remember half the programs i had though... what are some interesting programs out there? what is a good webcam/chat program (normally use yahoo but not compatible with linux)07:13
josh_vi is the sheeznit07:13
josh_:P07:14
joheyIs there any v2.0 package for ktorrent available for Kubuntu?07:14
WALHawkwind: are those the commecial ones?07:14
BonBonTheJonjosh_: kopete is good07:14
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HawkwindWAL: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14207:14
josh_does it have cam abilities?07:14
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mioemihello people07:14
HawkwindWAL: Those are mine.  Add those to your /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
joheyjosh_: At least with MSN. Don't know about Yahoo.07:15
mioemiI want to use tv tunner on my system07:15
josh_hmm...07:15
mioemiI want to use tv tunner on my system07:15
HawkwindWAL: You'll want to do: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list    Replace kate with your favorite GUI editor of choice07:15
andred-josh_: it does yahoo webcam, too07:15
josh_what do i need to burn/watch dvd's?07:15
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josh_kopete does?07:15
WALHawkwind: I just did it with Adept Manager, that works the same right?07:15
andred-josh_: kopete 0.12 series does07:15
josh_woot woot. im getting that sucker then07:15
mioemiI want to use tv tunner on my system07:16
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mioemican any good guy help07:16
KrAmMeRHawkwind: http://pastebin.ulteo.us/14307:16
joheyjohn__: It is by far the most featured IM client available for KDE. Maybe the most featured multi protocol IM client available for any system?07:16
HawkwindWAL: Sure.  Just make you enable main, updates, multiverse, universe at the very minimal07:16
KrAmMeRgettin that error07:16
josh_mioemi: whats ur problem?07:16
josh_ahh07:16
mioemithanks josh07:16
josh_nevermind07:16
josh_cant help you07:16
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mioemiok07:16
josh_i dont have one of those yet07:16
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Try with kate.  You also do *not* need to be in the /etc/apt directory07:16
josh_im working on i though :P07:16
mioemiI want to use tv tunner card on my system07:16
siloxhow do i twinview my desktop on my TV? (i use Nvidia 9625 BETA drivers)07:17
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joheyjosh_: I meant you, not john__ ...07:17
KrAmMeRHawkwind: still same thing07:17
josh_lemme see what i can google up07:17
mioemiare U there josh?07:17
HawkwindKrAmMeR: Are you familiar with vi at all ?07:17
WALHawkwind: if security a good idea?07:17
KrAmMeRnot really but i'll try it07:18
HawkwindWAL: Certainly07:18
HawkwindKrAmMeR: I can help you with it if you need07:18
HawkwindKrAmMeR: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list07:18
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HawkwindKrAmMeR: Hit 'i' for insert mode, edit what you want/need.  Then when you're done hit the ESC key, then type    :wq07:18
josh_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9663107:18
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KrAmMeRk07:19
joheyWould it be stupid to install ktorrent_2.0.2-1_i386_sarge.deb in Kubuntu (from Ktorrent's official web page)?07:19
mioemiI want to use tv tunner card on my system07:19
josh_mioemi: what type of card is it?07:19
siloxhow do i put a command in "autostart" so it will start upp automatically when i start x?07:19
Hawkwindjosh_: 2.0.2 is available for Dapper07:19
mioemican any body help?07:19
Hawkwindjohey: That was for you, sorry07:19
joheyHawkwind: It is?07:20
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Hawkwindjohey: Absolutely07:20
WALHawkwind: that looks like it's gonna do it, thanks for the help, all this apt stuff is new for a former slackware user like me :D07:20
joheyHawkwind: Where can I get that?07:20
Hawkwindjohey: Probably in backports07:20
HawkwindWAL: No problem.  If you have anymore questions don't hesitate to ask07:20
WALHawkwind: thanks, have a good day07:21
Hawkwindjohey: 2.0.2 is definitely in backports07:21
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jamieso.....07:22
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bnilsenCan anyone here advise about bash programming?07:23
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Hawkwindbnilsen: I can't, but you might ask the experts in #Bash07:23
Hawkwindbnilsen: Those guys know their stuff, very well in fact07:23
bnilsenThanks Hawkwind I'll try there.07:24
tribblehi.. maybe someone knows the solution: i would like to reset the filebrowser behavior in kubuntu edgy from single klick to open a file to doubleclick but i cant find the option for this anywhere.. i know that if you install kde on a debian you get a configuration assistant who asks about this behaviour but i dont know how to start him manually.. any idea how to do this ?07:25
bnilsen#join bash07:25
bnilsenahhh shucks!!!07:25
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Jucatotribble: System Settings > Mouse07:26
joheyHawkwind: I see. Thanks! But that required me to add the backports repository to my sources list. Can I ensure all packages primarily will be downloaded from the main repository, and backports only on specific packages?07:26
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shriphanihow to let kde run super fast on 256 megs ram ?07:26
Hawkwindjohey: Which ever is newest is what will get installed07:26
Hawkwindshriphani: Buy more RAM07:27
tribbleahhh i never looked there.. i was looking in konqueror settings or window behaviour.. thanks :)) i really have to look closer next time07:27
shriphaniuh oh07:27
Hawkwindshriphani: It won't run 'super fast' on that little bit of RAM07:27
shriphanii have just 256 megs07:27
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shriphaniand i am running kubuntu07:27
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Hawkwindtribble: It's also found in kcontrol -> peripherals -> mouse07:27
shriphanikinda freakin me out07:27
joheyHawkwind: :(07:28
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Hawkwindshriphani: You really need more RAM than 25607:28
shriphaniHawkwind: so ubuntu suits the best for 256 megs ram ?07:28
zorglu_or build super fast disk :)07:28
tribblehawkwind: thx fount it.. jucato mentioned the same.. i was looking in a completely wrong place for that option ;)07:28
KrAmMeRHawkwind: why was the us.ubuntu interfering?07:28
shriphanior should i get xfce ?07:28
HawkwindKrAmMeR: It's just a bogged down mirror07:29
KrAmMeRok07:29
Hawkwindshriphani: Might give it a try.  You can sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop if you want to try Xfce07:29
MomalDoes anyone know what the best screen capture program is to run under kde? (capturing the screen as video into an avi or mpeg doesn't matter I can change it later).. that wont lag to much when capturing at 1280x1024 (I have amdx2 4200, 2gbram, gf7800)... Or able to rec at that res then when it saves to smaller size07:29
HawkwindMomal: Have you tried wink at all ?07:29
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KrAmMeRits still updating07:29
LjLshriphani, you should get more ram IMHO. it's unfortunate that modern desktop need such an impressing amount of memory to run smoothly, but still, another 256meg chip is probably around 25 or less07:29
HawkwindMomal: It's not a KDE app at all, and it doesn't come with any distro unfortunately07:29
shriphaniHawkwind: but how do i kick out kde then ?07:30
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HawkwindRAM is so horribly cheap.  I can buy the same 2x512(1GB w/ copper heat sinks) for $50 where as 15 months ago I paid $15007:30
Hawkwindshriphani: Click the logout button from the menu07:30
shriphanino like uninstall kde completely07:31
Hawkwindshriphani: No need to uninstall it07:31
Momalhawkwind: its not even linux for that matter is it lol?07:31
Hawkwindshriphani: You can have them both installed without issues07:31
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HawkwindMomal: Yes it is07:31
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HawkwindMomal: I use it all the time in fact07:31
shriphaniHawkwind: i had tried ubuntu + xfce07:31
Momaloo.. ok i'll check it out thanls07:32
Momalthanks*07:32
LjLHawkwind: good for you, though here a gig of RAM is more like 10007:32
shriphaniit ended up getting updates for gnome apps07:32
shriphanilike open office and such07:32
Hawkwindshriphani: It always will as long as Gnome is installed.  That's the security in mind.  You don't just update what you use, but what's installed07:32
Hawkwind!wink07:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:32
shriphaniso i cant uninstall it?07:32
LjLshriphani: you can probably remove libgnome. most of the stuff that relies on gnome will go away.07:33
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LjLshriphani: or kdelibs4 in the case of kde07:33
shriphanioh07:33
Hawkwindshriphani: You could, but why would you want to ?07:33
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LjLHawkwind: well, if he doesn't use it...07:34
Hawkwindshriphani: You should always have 2 - 3 window managers installed.  That way if one is broken and you can't get into it, you have others to get into and fix the broken stuff07:34
shriphaniHawkwind: wanna have just one desktop manager memory issues07:34
HawkwindLjL: ^^^^^^^^^^^07:34
Hawkwindshriphani: Bad idea IMO07:34
shriphanioh07:34
HawkwindI don't use Gnome, KDE, Xfce, nor windowmaker, but I have them all installed07:34
LjLHawkwind: well, if a window manager is broken, you can always boot plain unmanaged X. or fix the problem from the console for that matter.07:34
HawkwindLjL: Most new users don't know CLI and are afraid of it07:35
shriphaniso you say i put xfce and let kde stay ?07:35
LjLand gnome and kde aren't quite just "window managers" anyway.07:35
HawkwindPoint is...it hurts absolutely nothing to have them install.  Best to have a couple incase things go wrong with one07:35
HawkwindLjL: Sheeesh, it was a 'general' statement07:35
fdovingshriphani: don't want to join thos one or a bunch window manager discussion, but if you really want to remove KDE the best way to remove everything kde-ish is to remove the package 'libartsc0'.07:35
HawkwindI wasn't trying to be down right specific.  Was just trying to help the user who is in need of learning07:35
LjLHawkwind: well, it hurts in that it takes up disk space, and download time for the updates. it may or may not matter, but it should be considered07:35
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zorglu_not worth a war, for sure :)07:36
HawkwindLjL: Diskspace isn't that much at all.  Seriously....it's best to have a couple installed07:36
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shriphaniumm i have dialup cant keep updating kde thins07:36
Jucatooctan: thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:36
fdovingHawkwind: it's best to have one that doesn't break. :)07:36
LjLHawkwind: ok, but if you consider (say) Gaim a part of Gnome, then there's really no reason to have Gaim installed if you aren't using it. make the same example for all other programs that ship with Ubuntu's Gnome and KDE.07:36
octanJucato, :) your welcome07:36
HawkwindIf you're about space, buy a new 300GB harddrive for $120 when you buy new RAM :)07:37
shriphanihey wait wont xfce put everything gtk-ishn the box ?07:37
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LjLHawkwind: you see, as long as you're only talking about the core Gnome/KDE libraries and their window managers, ok, i agree -- one can just keep them installed. but as concerns all the programs that come with them, well, they *do* take up a fair amount of space07:37
HawkwindLjL: If a user is scared of or doesn't know X, and his KDE breaks....how is he going to fix it ?  Chances are a reinstall.  If there is another wm/de installed, he will log into that first and foremost07:37
fdovingHawkwind: can't put that in my nice little ibook you know :)07:37
fdovingHawkwind: livecd07:37
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Hawkwindfdoving: Heh, buy a new laptop while you're buying ram then :P07:38
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zorglu_hehe :) all solved now :)07:38
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Hawkwindfdoving: Or a live CD.  But having only wm/de installed is IMO a bad idea.  I don't use any wm/de ya'll mention on a regular basis, yet I have them all installed, including KDE/Gnome07:38
shriphanihey what bout the gtk stuff xfce will bring ?07:38
LjLHawkwind: ok, i'm not against having a redundant WM installed. i'm just against (well, not even really) having the *whole* of Gnome/KDE with the *whole* of the Gnome/KDE programs that come with Ubuntu installed, and not being used07:38
HawkwindLechero: Are those going to make me millions tonight :P07:38
Samuli^shriphani, what about it?07:39
LjLHawkwind: shriphani talked about OpenOffice for install (though that's really neither a Gnome or a KDE app, but anyway)... why would you want to have it installed if you aren't using it?07:39
HawkwindLjL: That's your opinion, and this was mine.  That's the great thing about Linux, choice07:39
mioemiR U there josh?07:39
HawkwindLjL: I don't use it, and it's installed07:39
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shriphaniwell i just something lightweight altho kde is smooth back here07:39
LecheroHawkwind:  only each 128 minutes07:39
HawkwindLjL: I'm also not a new user either, so that makes a world of different07:39
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fdovingshriphani: xfce+gnome isn't as much bloat as gnome+kde as xfce uses much of the same stuff gnome does.07:40
shriphanihmm07:40
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mioemiR U there josh?07:40
LjL!repeat07:40
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:40
Hawkwindmioemi: He left earlier07:40
zorglu_mioemi: /whois josh josh will give you information about idle and presence07:40
abattoir!seen josh07:40
ubotujosh is on IRC right now!07:40
abattoir:P07:40
HawkwindHe's just not in this channel :P07:41
Momalhawkwind: seems i just get segment fault after trying to run it :(07:41
abattoirmioemi: he's not in this channel07:41
HawkwindMomal: You got everything installed that it needs ?07:41
HawkwindAnyways, lunch time here.   Back in a bit07:41
Momalwell I ran its installer script and it didn't say it needed anything07:41
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GnarusLeo Can anyone please help me? I have succesfully installed and probed my wireless adapter drivers with ndiswrapper (ndiwswrapper -l is ok),"modprobe ndiswrapper" is ok ... insmod is ok and "ndiswrapper "-m is ok. ... but when I wirte "iwconfig" no wlan0 shows up .. any ideas?07:42
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mioemiwhich channel can I talk to him ?07:44
Hawkwindmioemi: /whois josh07:44
Hawkwindmioemi: If he's in a channel it will tell you07:44
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HawkwindWhich he isn't in any07:44
shriphaniHawkwind: anythig lightweight and qt oriented ?07:44
shriphanii mean win managers or dm's07:44
zorglu_hmm bad bt, bad07:45
Hawkwindshriphani: Nope.  QT is all KDE07:45
mani_ola07:45
Hawkwindshriphani: Just use Xfce or fluxbox, or something like E17 or windowmaker07:45
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BlackenFluxbox is extremely nice if you have a liking for the traditional X sort of thing.07:46
abattoirJucato: i remember seeing a stripped down version of kde07:46
shriphanii wod like traditional x07:46
JucatoKDE Light07:46
shriphaniwould ^07:46
Jucatobut that's just a fork...07:46
abattoirJucato: Mini-KDE, google says07:46
Blackenshriphani: Fluxbox is in the *buntu repositories. It does take a bit of configuration though.07:46
Jucatohm... still a fork probably? :)07:47
BlackenOne package alone managed to sell me on KDE, though--yakuake.07:47
Jucatolet me check that Mini-KDE... sounds new07:47
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abattoirJucato: not sure if its just conceptual, though07:47
zorglu_just under 'unmaintained experiment' section :)07:47
JucatoBlacken: well there's tilda which also works on GNOME afaik...07:47
BlackenJucato: GNOME isn't worth the time of day.07:48
shriphanianything which will work outta the box and still be traditional x07:48
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Blackenshriphani: No...those environments tend to be for people who are comfortable with configuring things.07:48
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BlackenHmm, guess that solved it for him. :p07:49
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niroxx_how can i get the source of dpkg-reconfigure ?07:50
Blackenniroxx_: apt-get source it?