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Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, sorry I don't even know what you're trying to do. If it's just an xgl problem, you can post the contents of your xorg log file and xorg.conf at pastebin.com and let us know the url to the post. It will help diagnose your problem.	00:00
kitche	rangerguy39: you have to burn it to a cdrom	00:00
rangerguy39	yeah, i did	00:00
erUSUL	CrashOverride: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'	00:00
teknoprep	i don't get a splash screen now that i have everything installed.... wow this is really scrolling by quickly	00:00
rangerguy39	and then ran it off the cd	00:00
teknoprep	alot of ppl in here talkin	00:00
nickrud	CrashOverride: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg	00:00
Pelo	Chewy954, you can resize your / partiton if you hae some room left in there and you can rezise the home after you get rid of the original install of ubuntu, you only need 5-10 gig to run the os itself, I'm at 3.5 gig right now with all the apps I need, the rest is 2xram for swap and 65 gig for /home	00:00
genii	ouellettesr: What make/model wifi card?	00:00
kitche	rangerguy39: so you rebooted your computer so it boots into Ubuntu?	00:00
hockeyfan5000	splash screen for what teknoprep	00:00
rangerguy39	kiche, no	00:00
rangerguy39	ill try that	00:00
kitche	rangerguy39: well it's a Operating System it's not a Windows/Mac program	00:01
Pelo	nickrud, It think the reconfigure options need to be in capital letters	00:01
Chewy954	ok thanks Pelo	00:01
ouellettesr	genii they are both lynksys, one a wusb12 and the other a wusb54gsv4	00:01
nickrud	Pelo: no, lowercase	00:01
Pelo	Chewy954, you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one	00:01
* nickrud consulted the man page quickly		00:02
* Pelo decides to respect nickrud 's courage		00:02
genii	ouellettesr: usb wifi is tricky, the driver that would work if it wasn't on the usb doesn't usually.	00:02
mikebeecham	is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?	00:02
pike_	what was that link for the ubuntu win32 installer that makes a ext3 formatted file in windows and uses windows boot manager?	00:02
maximander	hello, i'm having issues with mysqld segfaulting on start, brand new install of 7.10/amd64	00:02
kyle__	how do i use XChat?	00:02
mikebeecham	I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same	00:02
tony_math	I can't make any changes to the preferences in Synaptic Package Manager. It hangs and I have to kill it. Would an uninstall/install work or is there a way to reset all settings?	00:03
AngryElf	I've got a geforce 6200 and i'm only getting 3 resolutions to choose from despite selecting all of them in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, binary driver, any ideas what's going on?	00:03
mr__daniel	kyle__: I am not understanding your question	00:03
mr__daniel	kyle__: what you mean with 'to use'?	00:03
Pelo	pike_, you'll need to use google and the aplet refers to ext2 if I recall corectly	00:03
kilo	what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?	00:03
kyle__	do you just ask questions?	00:03
ouellettesr	genii I also have a linksys pcmcia card I can use, will that be easier?	00:03
* jsoftw is bored.		00:03
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nickrud	AngryElf: run xrandr in a terminal, are they the same resolutions?	00:04
pike_	!fixres \| AngryElf	00:04
ubotu	AngryElf: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	00:04
erUSUL	!wubi \| pike_	00:04
DM\|	Anyone know how to change the resolution GDM loads on the login window?	00:04
ubotu	pike_: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html	00:04
mikebeecham	is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?	00:04
mikebeecham	I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same	00:04
LjL	!away > ajmorris\|AFK (ajmorris\|AFK, see the private message from Ubotu)	00:04
=== slim is now known as Big_Slim
kitche	mikebeecham: well if you deleted the files your space should be higher but yes there is but it will write 0's to the drive so the files can not be recoverable	00:05
nickrud	kyle__: just ask away	00:05
genii	ouellettesr: with the wusb12 in does lsmod show prism2_usb as a module installed?	00:05
pike_	mikebeecham: you want to format it to a more linuxy format or keep ntfs?	00:05
ouellettesr	genii yes	00:05
genii	ouellettesr: Then it should be able to work	00:05
kilo	P l e a s e ....what happens when i connect a Lan cable into ISDN port? does it work anyway?	00:05
kyle__	okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times	00:05
Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, I'm using xchat. You use it the same way as mirc	00:05
Pilgrim`	quick question..i was watching a movie on my ubuntu box and it froze, what should i do? I have stuff open (irc, etc) that i would prefer not to restar	00:06
AngryElf	nickrud: both places have the same max resolution, that i'm using, but xrandr has a bunch more lower ones than the GUI does	00:06
Pilgrim`	t	00:06
mar1	I am having no end of trouble with DeVeDe in ubuntu	00:06
mikebeecham	pike_: I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?	00:06
MoTec	kilo: you might let some smoke out... It will not work	00:06
genii	ouellettesr: Do you see a wlan0 device on the ifconfig command?	00:06
AngryElf	nickrud: er, and a bunch of the ones I selected with dpkg-reconf.... (and are also in xorg.conf) are not showing up in xrandr	00:06
kilo	Pilgrim': just kill the process	00:06
Xdange1	guys all of a sudden my hardisk is movin slow	00:06
Pilgrim`	i cant, the movie is stuck open full screen	00:06
Pilgrim`	no response from xwindows	00:06
hockeyfan5000	backup Xdange1	00:06
nickrud	AngryElf: ok, next take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log; near lines 300 - 400 there will be a section about monitor recognition, it's probably not getting the right horiz and vert freqs	00:06
kyle__	okay i need everyones help with this one, i am running a AMD64 with an ATI X1650 graphics card and i want to use beryl without stuffing linux up like i did the past 5 times....... and my graphics card is not running at the moment	00:07
Pilgrim`	tried control alt backspace, and a bunch of other variations	00:07
mar1	anyone know of a good program for converting DVD .vob files into smaller mgeg?	00:07
hockeyfan5000	kyle what is the issue your having?	00:07
kyle__	everything lol	00:07
CrashOverride	lol	00:07
hockeyfan5000	are you using 7.10	00:07
kilo	Motec: thanx it was a relly stupid question wasn't it? :)	00:07
Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, You will only get help that is as good as the questions that you ask. If you want to know how to use something, read the documentation. That's what it's for. If you have a problem, ask specifically about your issue. e.g. "How do I use the internet" is not a good question	00:07
Xdange1	when i enter my username and password from the login Gnome takes a while to start	00:07
AngryElf	which i'm trying to look up right now...	00:07
DShepherd	mar1, acidrip maybe?	00:07
pike_	mikebeecham: not sure you might sudo umount /media/whatever then sudo mount /media/whatever but i dunno	00:07
MoTec	kilo: i've got an old isdn router up on ebay right now... :)	00:07
CrashOverride	how do I log in as administrator, I tried doing it from the normal login screen but it just sayd "Administrator is no allower to login from this screen"	00:07
HigH_5	DvdRip	00:07
mikebeecham	hmmm	00:07
kyle__	okay, thanks	00:08
MACscr1077	Hmm, how do i kick or ghost my regular screen name?	00:08
kitche	CrashOverride: login as your user and use gksu or sudo	00:08
ouellettesr	genii I don't see wlan0	00:08
Xdange1	i dont know could removing trackerd affect performance??	00:08
mar1	DShepherd: the problem is that the .vob files are on my hard drive and I cannot get those programs to look at them cause they want to open a DVD drive all the time	00:08
DShepherd	MACscr1077 /ghost username password	00:08
HigH_5	Acidrip isn't working for me very well marl. Try DvdRip.	00:08
maximander	meh, anyone? i	00:08
rangerguy39	kitche, after the OS is on the cd-rom, what should i do with it?	00:08
kilo	Motec: not interested at the moment... i will buy a Lan card tomorrow...just flush the isdn card in the toilet ;)	00:08
mikebeecham	pike_: thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...	00:08
kitche	rangerguy39: umm just boot your computer and it will load	00:08
Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, locate all relevant config files and log files because it's difficult to get you an answer without them.	00:08
mikebeecham	is there any software I can use to completely delete information from a secondary HDD that was formatted via windows?	00:08
mikebeecham	pike_: thanks, I will ask again to see if anyone else can help...	00:08
Xdange1	cause reading from memory is fast but from my hardrive is really slow??	00:08
rangerguy39	kitche, its not =\	00:08
mikebeecham	I have deleted the files from that drive, but the amount of space I have left remains the same	00:08
Chewy954	( 19:01:59 ) ( Pelo ) Chewy954, you might want to use the 7.04 cd, there is a bug in the partitoning tool in the 7.10 one	00:09
genii	ouellettesr: try: sudo ifconfig wlan0 up	00:09
rangerguy39	is windows interfering with it?	00:09
Chewy954	Pelo: Im using acronis to partition.	00:09
nickrud	Xdange1: first think I'd look for is checking for your host name on the line with 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts	00:09
MACscr1077	Dshepherd: says its an unknown command	00:09
kyle__	my main proble is my graphics card..... its an ATI X1650 and i have the drivers for it, but when i run it the x server wont start	00:09
maximander	mikebeecham: shred	00:09
Pelo	Chewy954, what ever rocks your boat man	00:09
CrashOverride	what do I type in sudo to make me be in as root from bash	00:09
MoTec	kilo: aaah, i liked my isdn.. but that was long ago :) so you have an ethernet connection now? like at a company or college?	00:09
MACscr1077	Er, says ghost is	00:09
DShepherd	MACscr1077, what irc client are you using?	00:09
nickrud	Xdange1: mine got chewed up in the last update (again)	00:09
kitche	rangerguy39: then you didn't burn it right you need to burn the .iso file as a image not put the .iso file on the cdrom	00:09
MACscr1077	miranda	00:09
Xdange1	nickrud; i'll try that	00:09
HigH_5	mikebeecham try with the Ultimate Boot CD, it has tools to wipe out the disk very thoroughly.	00:09
MACscr1077	But is swar i have used that command before	00:09
MACscr1077	swear	00:09
kyle__	i dont want to install without being sure it wont happen again	00:09
NYCThomasB	hey - i'm back. my machine no longer sees ath0, my pcimcia wireless card	00:09
rangerguy39	kitche, can i query you?	00:09
mar1	anyone?	00:09
Xdange1	nickrud: i'm really afraid of these updates	00:10
HigH_5	DvdRip.	00:10
mikebeecham	High 5 I dont want to wipe the disk clean....	00:10
ouellettesr	genii I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: No Such Device	00:10
mikebeecham	pike_: I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?	00:10
kitche	rangerguy39: not really my client doesn't support that really right now I haven't wrote the script to check for queries	00:10
DShepherd	sorry MACscr1077, i dont know much about miranda	00:10
Chewy954	Pelo: I go the simplest way possible right now, since im a bit sick, time is of the essence.	00:10
Chewy954	lol	00:10
CrashOverride	lol	00:10
maximander	anyone know how to start going about getting MySQLd to start? It just segfaults without saying anything	00:10
CrashOverride	how do I log in as root	00:10
kilo	motec: i have a fast adsl connection...now i have a piii with ubuntu on it but i found this isdn card inside...i want to connect this old good pc to my router to use ubuntu as p2p station	00:10
MikeH	When I try opening a file with totem, I get a "cannot determine type of stream"	00:10
mikebeecham	High5 I dont want to format it, as there are files on that drive I want to keep...I just wanted to delete some of the files off....it's almost as though I've deleted them, but not really.....nautlius is not registering the freed up space?	00:10
Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, can you find your xserver log file? it should be somewhere near /var/log and be recognizably named. your X config file should be in or near /etc/X11/<xorg or XFree86>.conf	00:10
tony_math	kyle__ does that mean you only have a console? No graphics at all?	00:10
kyle__	there are two installs i use, one is Envy and the other is from the ATI site	00:10
mikebeecham	sorry pike	00:10
mikebeecham	lol	00:10
CrashOverride	lol	00:10
MikeH	is this a problem with codecs?	00:10
kitche	!root \| CrashOverride	00:10
ubotu	CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	00:10
Chewy954	CrashOverride: use su, but u gotta enable this in ubutu	00:10
AngryElf	nickrud: what file did you say to look in to find the horiz/vert refresh rates?	00:10
junkeR	hello everyone, when I put Ubuntu in hibernate my sound now skips and doesn't play correctly. This is still happening after a restart/shutdown.. any fixes?	00:10
MACscr1077	Dshepherd : the error was from freenode, not my client	00:11
rangerguy39	okay	00:11
nickrud	AngryElf: /var/log/Xorg.0.log	00:11
rangerguy39	so i should save the .iso as what?	00:11
Chewy954	im gonna make su possible for ubuntu :p	00:11
genii	ouellettesr: Bah, OK. Do you see an eth1 device where you know you have only 1 wired adapter then?	00:11
Chewy954	since i like using it lol	00:11
CrashOverride	lol	00:11
Xdange1	CrashOverride: you have to enable root login	00:11
kitche	!noroot	00:11
ubotu	Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo	00:11
kyle__	my graphics card is fine but when i runs the x server restarts as aoon as i logg in	00:11
Big_Slim	how do you accept files on this program?	00:11
Pelo	Chewy954, you want 3 partitons , one for / for the os, 5-10 gig ext3, 2xram for swap in linuxswap Fs , and the rest for /home in ext3 preferbly	00:11
DShepherd	MACscr1077, ok but i don't know why this is not working for you. it works for me :-)	00:11
ouellettesr	genii, nope I just have eth0 and lo	00:11
MoTec	kilo: aah, okay. yep, you'll need an ethernet card, then :) if you want to get advanced you can get _two_ ethernet cards and make it your firewall, router, and server :)	00:11
CrashOverride	I'm making a root thing nayway, how do I enable root logon	00:12
astro76	!sudo \| CrashOverride	00:12
ubotu	CrashOverride: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	00:12
Seven_Six_Two	kyle__, copy the contents of both of those files to pastebin.com and when you've submitted it, paste the url here	00:12
DShepherd	!root \| CrashOverride	00:12
ubotu	CrashOverride: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	00:12
kitche	CrashOverride: it's in the links that ubotu been giving you for the past 5 minutes	00:12
Chewy954	Pelo: 2 swap partitions? and im keeping my orignal linux partition intact till I copy it over, then i delete it.	00:12
MoTec	ubuntu server is great for that, with some configuration, of course.	00:12
NYCThomasB	is there a "repair" like option that would reset my os to original install without messing up my files and file structure? (os is in own partition)	00:12
kitche	CrashOverride: but you might not get support if you enable root and do something stupid with it :)	00:12
kilo	motec: right... i suppose it would be great	00:12
naxa	I have to bach resize images. Is there a tool for this?	00:12
MACscr1077	Damnit, i cant get the newest ubuntu to work in Parallel =(	00:12
kyle__	thanks	00:12
junkeR	can anyone help me? my sound card is dishing out sound that sounds like a skipping CD	00:12
kyle__	and i will try find that file	00:13
Seven_Six_Two	NYCThomasB, do you have backups?	00:13
Pelo	Chewy954, 2x ram for the swap , ie the swap must be tiwce the size of your ram	00:13
MACscr1077	Its having issues with my video card, which is odd because its a ati x800	00:13
kitche	junkeR: did you try rebooting to see if it fixes it or not?	00:13
NYCThomasB	seven six two: of the files? yes	00:13
maximander	anyone?	00:13
junkeR	yes	00:13
kilo	mtoec: now i go to rest some hours...it's 1.13 in the night here...	00:13
xTheGoat121x	I have returned	00:13
AngryElf	nickrud: there's nothing about refresh rates in my log file -- and the appropriate rates are within the ranges that are defined in xorg.conf...	00:13
MoTec	kilo: rest well :)	00:13
genii	ouellettesr: OK, perhaps add with admin privelege to /etc/network/interfaces 2 lines line1: auto wlan0 line2: iface wlan0 inet dhcp	00:13
kilo	bye everyone :)	00:13
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Seven_Six_Two	NYCThomasB, then restore from them.	00:14
nickrud	AngryElf: hrm, nvidia then? (I hear that nvidia-settings can help)	00:14
MoTec	naxa: you can use imagemagic... mogrify, specifically.	00:14
ouellettesr	genii ok ill try that	00:14
kilo	motec: one last question	00:14
CrashOverride	lol it's kool being in as root	00:14
genii	ouellettesr: Hopefully your access point is set to hand out dhcp numbers	00:14
CrashOverride	is my /root folder supposed to be empty	00:14
matttis	hi	00:14
Xdange1	ok i dont see any process using up all my memory or cpu usage, so why is my system moving so slow after the last update	00:14
nickrud	CrashOverride: it isn't, try ls -l	00:15
MoTec	naxa: mogrify -resize 1024x768! \images\*.jpg	00:15
naxa	I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?	00:15
kilo	motec: if i install ubuntu now without the ethernet inside...when i will do it tomorrow and start ubuntu, will it detect and install the new hardware or i will have to do some stuff?	00:15
nickrud	CrashOverride: erm, ls -a that is	00:15
naxa	MoTec: thank you! :)	00:15
naxa	I cannot edit my system menu. If i make a change, it disappears within 0.5 sec. can you help me?	00:15
kitche	CrashOverride: of course since root can't login by default it has hidden files once you login though	00:15
CrashOverride	kool now I can look at the root files	00:15
matttis	how can I make it possible to vote for electric sheeps ? (at the moment pressing a button kills the screen saver)	00:15
naxa	MoTec: is it lossless?	00:15
kitche	CrashOverride: you could look at them before also lol	00:15
CrashOverride	lol	00:15
MoTec	kilo: I'm not 100% sure	00:15
nickrud	CrashOverride: you could have already; sudo ls -a /root	00:15
gamdulo	hola	00:15
CrashOverride	w/e	00:16
* jsoftw has xfce4 looking all good :)		00:16
CrashOverride	it's more 1337 using the root account	00:16
MoTec	naxa: reducing sizes of images _can't_ be lossless :)	00:16
NYCThomasB	seven_six_two: maybe i misstated - i want to reinstall os without having to relaod all of my saved files after. files are on diff partition from os	00:16
=== edencane_ is now known as edencane
xTheGoat121x	My Celeron M tends to run 10 degrees hotter in Ubuntu than it does in XP.... is there a reason for this, and a way to correct it?	00:16
kitche	CrashOverride: not really	00:16
CrashOverride	now it's kurt@ubuntu:~# instead of kurt@ubuntu:~$	00:16
CrashOverride	XD	00:16
kilo	MoTec: oh great... :\| tomorrow i will have some good time then... i will have to put an old laser printer (serial) on it too...	00:16
matttis	!de	00:16
naxa	MoTec: yeah, sure... I mean if the jpg was a 100% quality, will the new jpg still a 100% quailty jpg?	00:16
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	00:16
nickrud	CrashOverride: what' really elite is running your ubuntu from a chrooted live cd ;)	00:16
MoTec	naxa: aah.. not sure, actually.. i'd think so, tho.	00:17
mr__daniel	CrashOverride: root previledges should only be used when they are really necessary	00:17
MoTec	kilo: good luck :)	00:17
genii	ouellettesr: after saving those 2 lines, try again sudo ifconfig wlan0 up	00:17
MoTec	kilo: cups will do that just fine	00:17
CrashOverride	well I'm trying to be 1337 here so I'm doing it anyway	00:17
AngryElf	nickrud: thanx, forgot about that -- was able to bump it up one more res	00:17
AngryElf	thanx	00:17
kilo	MoTec: cups?? what's that?	00:17
jsoftw	CrashOverride: sudo passwd	00:18
jsoftw	CrashOverride: then su -	00:18
jsoftw	and then there we go.	00:18
MoTec	cupsd is the print server... common unix printing system	00:18
CrashOverride	w/e	00:18
Pici	!noroot \| jsoftw	00:18
ubotu	jsoftw: Regardless of your choice: Please do not advise against user security policy and create a root password, please see !rootsudo	00:18
jsoftw	:\	00:18
kitche	Pici: doesn't matter sicne CrashOverride enabled it already	00:18
kam	how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse>	00:19
Pici	kitche: /me facepalms	00:19
Sportsdude80	hi	00:19
jsoftw	!rootsudo	00:19
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	00:19
CrashOverride	I KNOW	00:19
jsoftw	shrug	00:19
Sportsdude80	is anyone not useing opera	00:19
jsoftw	Hey I aint hassling you CrashOverride	00:19
CrashOverride	really you losers keep repeating that	00:19
CrashOverride	I don't care	00:19
jsoftw	CrashOverride: :\	00:19
jsoftw	CrashOverride: dude, settle.	00:19
kelsin	CrashOverride: then don't respond	00:19
naxa	MoTec: can you help me with this: I want to tell sed to delete everything before a href=" and after the next " symbol	00:20
MoTec	naxa: aaah... regular expressions hurt my brain :)	00:20
Sportsdude80	do they have mods here	00:20
kelsin	matttis: everything before the href=" including the href="?	00:20
ouellettesr	genii I get the same error SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device	00:20
kam	how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf	00:20
NYCThomasB	Can someone help me get the wireless connection option back in my network settings window?	00:20
naxa	MoTec: i feel the same :) although there are very useful, actually... only hard to learn for me...	00:20
Sportsdude80	anyone have wpe pro	00:21
kelsin	sed 's/^.href="[^"]".*$//'	00:21
MoTec	naxa: regex is awesome.. sounds like kelsin is a pro :)	00:21
matttis	kelsin: you got the wrong one :-)	00:21
CrashOverride	!telnet	00:21
ubotu	telnet is not safe. Please use ssh instead. See !ssh	00:21
CrashOverride	epic lulz	00:21
CrashOverride	"telnet is not safe" LOL	00:21
kelsin	matttis: wow I REALLy go the wrong one lol	00:21
CrashOverride	lol	00:21
astro76	!lol	00:21
CrashOverride	lol	00:21
kitche	CrashOverride: it's not for a server	00:21
ubotu	Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.	00:21
naxa	kelsin: thank you! :) um... hope that MoTec told me, i wouldn't notice that you're talking to me :)	00:21
MoTec	CrashOverride: are you just trying to stir things up here?	00:22
Kragnerac	ubuntu	00:22
kam	how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf	00:22
Cabbage	MoTec: Duh. Come on, everything he's said screams deliberate trolling-for-the-lulz.	00:22
kelsin	naxa: hope it works lol, obviousyl test it before going around sed -i :)	00:22
CrashOverride	lol	00:22
Flare183	Can someone mentor me for the MOTU	00:22
graft	can we modify that ubotu message to forbid the use of lol and omg in absolutely all contexts?	00:22
CrashOverride	lol	00:22
Kragnerac	!lol	00:22
ubotu	Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.	00:22
CrashOverride	lol	00:22
naxa	kelsin: ok :)	00:22
Cabbage	whut	00:22
Kragnerac	CrashOverride: heh	00:22
kelsin	Flare183: probably should ask in #ubuntu-motu	00:22
kitche	kam: it uses /dev/input/mice even if you don't have a mouse in your xorg.conf	00:23
Flare183	I know but i get no answer in their	00:23
CrashOverride	it's a script	00:23
CrashOverride	says lol back to anyone else saying lol	00:23
NYCThomasB	is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?	00:23
CrashOverride	..lol	00:23
Bearcat	hey folks	00:23
jsoftw	CrashOverride: you er... might want to turn that off	00:23
Kragnerac	CrashOverride: This is zer0c00l.	00:23
roomone	anyone im having trouble installing windows xp from ubuntu	00:23
CrashOverride	how did you know I was zerokool500	00:24
graft	roomone: haha	00:24
genii	ouellettesr: Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one	00:24
Menacie	how do i get 1680 x 1050 anyone? samsung monitor	00:24
Journeyman	is there a version of amarok made for gnome?	00:24
roomone	try to boot from disc it works but then it takes me to command prompt	00:24
graft	Journeyman: amarok will run fine in gnome	00:24
kitche	Journeyman: there is banshee which is for gnome	00:24
Bearcat	Journeyman: look at exhile	00:24
Journeyman	graft, mostly	00:24
kelsin	Journeyman: no, you could check out Rhythmbox, Listen, or Banshee if you really want a gtk player	00:24
Bearcat	Journeyman: exhile is a amarok clone	00:24
NYCThomasB	is there a command to restart ALL of my network connections and ports ?	00:24
Journeyman	Rhythmbox is the suck	00:24
ouellettesr	genii, you don't think I would have a problem with a pcmcia adapter?	00:24
genii	ouellettesr:I just had a disconnect/reconnect so last msg not sure you got: Bah ok. I'm not overly familiar with usb troubleshooting so I'd recommend the pcmcia adapter at this point unless another here can help further with the usb one	00:24
Sportsdude80	I am online people	00:25
Journeyman	the problem with amarok is it doesn't work with my media keys	00:25
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astro76	NYCThomasB, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart	00:25
darwub	hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas?	00:25
Menacie	anybody?	00:25
genii	ouellettesr: Since the pcmcia works as part of the pci it is less problemmatic	00:25
NYCThomasB	astro76: thx	00:25
kelsin	NYCThomasB: /etc/init.d/network restart will restart network interface, but you'll have to do that for a lot of different programs to restart EVERY port and that might not even do it if you use Network Manager to manager some devices	00:25
ouellettesr	genii, cool I think ill get one of them now	00:25
ciclo	hello, everybody	00:25
Sportsdude80	http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox	00:26
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Sportsdude80	http://xat.com/clugbpenhguinfugnchgatbgox come theyre now	00:27
base3	does anyone know how to stop update-grub from running at every reboot??	00:27
astro76	!ops \| Sportsdude80	00:27
ubotu	Sportsdude80: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici or Pelo!	00:27
kam	kitche, http://pastebin.com/m6d9d0f8	00:27
kam	i do have a mouse, synaptics	00:27
kam	and touchscreen	00:27
kam	how do i stop it	00:27
darwub	hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not	00:27
NYCThomasB	kelsin: no apps running so not worried about ports. issue is i disabled my ath0 and can't get to see it now. after the network restart iwconfig fails to see my ath0 but it is there. thoughts?	00:28
ruben	woops. Weird glitch I had here	00:28
CrashOverride	root@ubuntu:~# mkdir /r00t./workspace./garbage.	00:28
CrashOverride	mkdir: cannot create directory `/r00t./workspace./garbage.': No such file or directory	00:28
kelsin	NYCThomasB: what did you do to disable the card?	00:28
CrashOverride	I'm trying to make a directory there	00:28
CrashOverride	why is it doing that?	00:28
maximander	anyone here familer with using gdb?	00:28
kelsin	CrashOverride: you can't make multiple directories in one command, add -p I think to the mkdir command?	00:29
Menacie	can anybody tell me how to edit to 1680 x 1050 resolution please :)	00:29
lunks	Can someone point me to nvidia black ttys factoid?	00:29
CrashOverride	ok	00:29
NYCThomasB	KELSIN: standby - getting cmd	00:29
kam	how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf	00:29
jsoftw	CrashOverride: are you _trying_ to troll?	00:29
CrashOverride	no	00:29
CrashOverride	..	00:29
lunks	!blackttys	00:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about blackttys - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:29
void^	CrashOverride: mkdir -p. try to be less funny.	00:29
lunks	!blacktty	00:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about blacktty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:29
CrashOverride	It's for a remake of the movie 'hackers' I'm making	00:29
kelsin	NYCThomasB: probably need to remove (maybe) and reinstate the kernel module, modprobe -r <module>; modprobe <module>	00:29
ruben	ok. I cant restart shorewall. It returns: ERROR: No firewall zone defined in /etc/shorewall/zones	00:29
darwub	hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not	00:29
ruben	Terminated. My zones file goes like this:	00:29
ruben	loc Local Local network	00:29
ruben	net Net Tinternet	00:29
CrashOverride	and I don't want to mess with the real root folder	00:29
allbert	has anyone hot konqueror worked with gmail?	00:29
Nighthawk420	hey im having a problem with evolution mail... every time i start it up it brings it up normally, but fullscreen... there are no close buttons or title bar at the top of the window... i ahve gone through every setting and tried draggin it down but no luck... I have also synaptic uninstalled it and re installed it but still nothing... Please Help.	00:30
allbert	hot-got	00:30
lunks	!pastebin ruben	00:30
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pastebin ruben - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:30
lunks	!pastebin \| ruben	00:30
ubotu	ruben: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	00:30
jsoftw	Nighthawk420: try thunderbird is all I can say. I found evolution to be quite buggy.	00:30
Menacie	please :(	00:30
alzamabar	I can't connect to MySQL. I installed it, set a new password when asked but now I can't connect	00:30
NYCThomasB	kelsin: that is what i am looking for. enter as typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?	00:30
jsoftw	alzamabar: mysql -u root ?	00:30
kelsin	alzamabar: what command are you using to connect and what is it saying when it tells you you can't?	00:30
darwub	hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not	00:30
genii	alzamabar: use ip and not localhost	00:31
MoTec	darwub: don't repeat so quickly	00:31
alzamabar	ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)	00:31
CrashOverride	ok what's the difference between ./ and /	00:31
ruben	oooh. sorry, didnt knew that	00:31
jsoftw	alzamabar: so it _is_ working.	00:31
kelsin	NYCThomasB: you need to find out what module is running your ethernet card, then you insert that in "sudo modprobe -r <module-name>" to remove and the same command without the -r to put back	00:31
Nighthawk420	thanks jsoftw	00:31
bruenig	CrashOverride, . means current directory	00:31
jsoftw	alzamabar: mysql -u root -p foo	00:31
jsoftw	alzamabar: mysql -u root -p I mean	00:31
kelsin	alzamabar: add a -p to that command, without the password if you'r eon a multiuser system	00:31
kitche	alzamabar: it's not using the password you need to give mysql a password for the account when your trying to login	00:31
kelsin	alzamabar: and it will prompt	00:31
NYCThomasB	kelsin: that is what i am looking for. enter as you typed or do i need to replace what is in brackets?	00:32
lex_	I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?	00:32
pike_	darwub: well i run hd content on a p3 600 with 380MB ram and an old 16mb graphics card so that is bad	00:32
XacaH	hi all	00:32
jsoftw	I thought -p never accepted passwords on the command line like that?	00:32
genii	please remember mysql needs to be run as user mysql	00:32
kam	how do i stop xorg from creating a <default mouse> linked to /dev/input/mice at start despite no such device in xorg.conf	00:32
kelsin	NYCThomasB: I just answered that question, you need to replace with your kernel module for your device	00:32
NYCThomasB	kelsin: sorry mistyped. how do i find module?	00:32
MoTec	CrashOverride: also, files and directories starting with a . are hidden	00:32
kelsin	NYCThomasB: what card do you have?	00:32
jsoftw	genii: the daemon perhaps, but not the client	00:32
roomone	Can someone willing to help me im me i have a question about ubuntu	00:32
jsoftw	roomone: just ask	00:33
mrdigital	hi does anyone know how to get 720p hd in tv-out?	00:33
kelsin	!ask	00:33
ubotu	Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	00:33
alzamabar	mtedone@jemoslinux:~$ mysql -u root -p foo	00:33
alzamabar	Enter password:	00:33
alzamabar	ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)	00:33
XacaH	how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)	00:33
ruz322	can anyone recommend a program similar to iMovie that i can make simple photo slideshow videos with?	00:33
NYCThomasB	kelsin: smcwcb-g	00:33
kelsin	alzamabar: then you didn't set the password correctly	00:33
tony_math	Where does apt keep it's configuration files? The files where Synaptic Package Manager would store the entries in the Preferences dialog window?	00:33
genii	jsoftw: Perhaps it's just a bsd-ism then	00:33
jrib	ruz322: not sure, but try kino and pitivi	00:33
kelsin	NYCThomasB: is that a module number, or a brand?	00:33
tony_math	They're not in /etc/apt	00:33
alzamabar	How do I undo completely the mysql installation and to it again#/	00:33
kelsin	NYCThomasB: I meant *model	00:33
jsoftw	genii: huh	00:33
jsoftw	?	00:34
ruz322	jrib: kino doesnt look like it's what i want, kind of complicated...	00:34
roomone	i have ubuntu install on my desktop and i want to erase it and istall windows can anyone help	00:34
kitche	alzamabar: when you do mysql -u root -p hit enter it will ask you for the password like it did enter your password there since I bet foo is not your password	00:34
pike_	alzamabar: sudo apt-get remove <packagename> --purge	00:34
XacaH	îò õóéíÿ :( øî æ äåëàòü áëÿäü.	00:34
NYCThomasB	kelsin: model#	00:34
jsoftw	roomone: just get your windows cd and boot up and start installer.	00:34
tony_math	alzamabar: how did you install MySQL? Using Synaptic? If so, just remove it using Synaptic.	00:34
NYCThomasB	Kelsin: SMC is brand	00:34
jsoftw	roomone: /join #windows.	00:34
lunks	Got "/etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments<break line>: error: this program does not know how to configure the "10<break line>shared/default-x-server doesn't exist" X server<break line>Warning: Could not generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe for vesa driver	00:34
XacaH	how to do undo kickban in Kvirc? (on another server)	00:34
jrib	tony_math: why?	00:34
lunks	this is what i'm getting on ubuntu when trying to start x.	00:35
genii	jsoftw: Previously on freebsd I would need to issue something like su -c "mysql <whatever option>" mysql	00:35
pike_	!pastebin \| lunks	00:35
ubotu	lunks: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)	00:35
kitche	XacaH: umm same way that you undo a ban /mode <channel> -b <host>	00:35
jsoftw	genii: err... I run bsd all the time and have _never_ had to do that	00:35
tony_math	jrib: I can't make any changes to the preferences using the GUI. The application just hangs and I have to kill it.	00:35
cracker9009	/list	00:35
lunks	pike_: no X window here. :P	00:35
roomone	I boot through cd and it takes me to a command prompt because of some protection the computer reads	00:35
pike_	lunks: sorry thought you were going to paste your whole x log or something	00:35
jrib	tony_math: run it in a terminal	00:35
cracker9009	hello	00:35
kelsin	NYCThomasB: did you install it with ndiswrapper?	00:35
smookerPC1	hey ppls	00:36
tony_math	jrib: So right now I can't install anything since I can't remove the "proxy" setting in the preferences section of Synaptic.	00:36
lunks	pike_: No, I tried to make it only one line so it wouldn't flood. :)	00:36
kam	how do I set the <default mouse> to my synaptics device in my xorg.conf? xorg creates a default because it says it doesnt have one.	00:36
jrib	tony_math: you can use apt on the command line	00:36
smookerPC1	how do i setup my subtitles to be shown in Cyrylic ?	00:36
MoTec	roomone: what you computer is doing when you're booting off of a xp install cd is totally unrelated to ubuntu, or whatever OS (or OSs) you might have installed.	00:36
jrib	!apt > tony_math (read the private message from ubotu)	00:36
NYCThomasB	kelsin: i was trying to but whatver i did lastnight mad the wireless card invisible	00:36
jimjam	Is there any way to eliminate the output caused by commands in a script?	00:36
alzamabar	k, I reinstalled (this time without password) and now it works fine. The --purge worked greatly. Thanx	00:36
XacaH	kitche: thanks for answer. but its dont help :( that people cant connect to server :(	00:36
kelsin	NYCThomasB: I'm confused, so it was working, then you tried to install ndiswrapper, then it disappeared?	00:36
jrib	jimjam: redirect to /dev/null	00:37
jsoftw	jimjam: /path/to/script > /dev/null	00:37
kitche	XacaH: well that's how you do it though :)	00:37
kelsin	jimjam: 1> to only redirect std-out and 2> to only redirect std-err	00:37
lunks	pike_: Could you please search ubotus factoids about 'black ttys' on nvidia?	00:37
tony_math	jrib: will do. Thanks	00:37
roomone	alright thanks guys ill come back if i have any questions.	00:37
MoTec	jimjam: scriptname > /dev/null	00:37
MoTec	dang, i'm slow :)	00:37
lunks	pike_: I believe it shouldn't be too hard, and could point me a direction.	00:37
jimjam	Thanks everyone. Is there any way to keep my echos coming through?	00:37
smookerPC1	How do i setup my Video subtitles to be shown Cyrylic (RUS/BG..)	00:37
Frederick	folks im having problems with ubuntu in a amd64 machine my xserver does not boot :/	00:38
jrib	jimjam: redirect to /dev/null	00:38
Sepheebear	lunks: what happened, you lost tty1-6 since gutsy?	00:38
tony_math	jrib: I saw the message. However, looks like my GUI application is broken.	00:38
Frederick	it says I got no permission	00:38
jimjam	jrib: Sorry, I meant I want them to output, but everything not to	00:38
jrib	tony_math: you haven't run it in a terminal yet	00:38
kelsin	jimjam: in your script redirect the other commands but don't redirect your echos	00:39
jrib	jimjam: huh?	00:39
jimjam	Oh, thanks kelsin	00:39
jimjam	and everyone else :)	00:39
lunks	Sepheebear: sort of	00:39
NYCThomasB	kelsin: sorry. ndiswrapped was previously installed but not used. last night i tried to install madwifi, that is where things went wrong. i think the folloing two commmands did it, but reversing them says there is no such device. commmands were: sudo ifconfig ath0 down , then i ran, sudo ifconfig wifi down.	00:39
MoTec	jimjam: well... scriptname 2> /dev/null just stops 'error' messages...	00:39
jrib	jimjam: you only redirect what you don't want inside your script	00:39
XacaH	kitche: in Kvirc i do /opet, than /mode chennel +o , than do kickban on the nick from Kvirc menu	00:39
Frederick	I got an error on the xlog no devices detected	00:39
kelsin	NYCThomasB: so sudo ifconfig ath0 up, unfortunately does not work?	00:39
jimjam	Thank you everyone!\	00:39
tony_math	jrib: the problem is that at work, I need to set a proxy server connection, which I don't need at home. So, I normally make this change using the Preferences dialog window.	00:39
MoTec	Well yeah, and if you modify the script you can do the > /dev/null on the commands you want 'muted' only	00:39
jrib	tony_math: ok	00:40
Sepheebear	lunks: anything happen if you do `sudo modprobe fbcon && sudo modprobe vesafb`?	00:40
NYCThomasB	kelsin: yes. says device not installed. something in the execution of madwifi install probably was the culprit. i just want to reinstall networking piece of os if possible to get hat back to original state	00:40
jrib	tony_math: I mean, run the dialog from the terminal so you can look for error messages	00:40
lunks	Sepheebear: I did, managed to do with a hack using vesafb instead of nvidiafb, not I upgraded to Heron and X does not work anymore. It complains about not being able to start vesa driver, so I figure it must relate somehow. Now I want to go back to nvidiafb to narrow it down. :P	00:40
lunks	Sepheebear: I'm on the opposite way, but somehow I can't seem to unload vesafb. :P	00:40
MoTec	tony_math: i bet it's stored in one of the directories, starting with a ".", in your home directory...	00:40
Frederick	any help for me?	00:41
Sepheebear	probably something depends on it, do lsmod \| grep vesafb	00:41
kelsin	NYCThomasB: well unfortunately I don't know what was running your card in the first place, but you can try "modprobe ndiswrapper"	00:41
jrib	!please > Frederick (read the private message from ubotu)	00:41
kelsin	NYCThomasB: sudo it of course	00:41
lunks	let me try	00:41
NYCThomasB	kelsin: standby thanks	00:41
tony_math	thanks jrib/MoTec, I'm still looking. I'm going to start Synaptic from a terminal and see what it spits out.	00:41
Menacie	can anyone help me with 1680 x 1050 resolution, i have samsung syncmaster monitor and nvidia 7600gs agp	00:42
lunks	Sepheebear: It outputs "vesafb 9092 1"	00:42
skyfalcon866	!aero\	00:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aero\ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:42
skyfalcon866	!aero	00:42
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about aero - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:42
NYCThomasB	kelsin: what should happen when i run that?	00:42
graft	anyone ever had issues with audio looping incessantly?	00:42
pike_	Menacie: google for horiz and vert settings for the monitor then gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and plug em in there	00:43
kelsin	NYCThomasB: ath0 should reappear	00:43
Sepheebear	lunks: and you cant rmmod it?	00:43
NYCThomasB	kelsin: ok iwconfig ing now	00:43
tony_math	jrib/MoTec: I ran synaptic from a terminal and when I made the change in the preferences dialog, the application just hung. No messages in the terminal window.	00:43
Sepheebear	how about rmmod -f ?	00:43
pike_	Menacie: are you using nvidia driver?	00:43
jrib	tony_math: so you have to kill it now?	00:44
NYCThomasB	kelsin: iwconfig doen't even list ath0	00:44
lunks	Sepheebear: it says resource temporarily unavailable	00:44
g0th	hi	00:44
g0th	Somehow the desktop background is not set on my ubuntu	00:44
tony_math	Because Synaptic is misbehaving, Software Updates won't work.	00:44
sipsipclick	g0th, did you try to set it?	00:44
jrib	tony_math: you can use apt	00:44
g0th	whenever I start gnome-appearance-properties (no setting at all just start it) it is shown again	00:44
g0th	of course	00:45
kelsin	NYCThomasB: damn, then honestly I don't know what module was running your card before, you can try typing "dmesg" and seeing if near the end is an error about loading the ndiswrapper, unless it loaded fine without cards, I don't know much about ndiswrapper	00:45
lunks	Sepheebear: clearer: ERROR: Removing 'vesafb': Resource temporarily unavailable	00:45
g0th	I see it then again	00:45
ghost	hello all	00:45
MoTec	Menacie: modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, looking for lines starting with "Modes"... those lines will say "1024x768" "800x600" etc, already.. Put "1680x1060" first, right after the word Modes	00:45
g0th	then I even do gnome-session-save	00:45
g0th	but after the next login it's gone again	00:45
MoTec	tony_math: you	00:45
lunks	Sepheebear: when rmmod -f	00:45
MoTec	tony_math: you're not going to see output like that	00:45
ghost	I have got to say, I LOVE ubuntu. I return from a stint in Gentoo and I must say, blessed be the Ubuntu magic	00:45
NYCThomasB	kelsin: ok, well thanks for your time and efforts	00:45
ghost	It just works meets full customability	00:45
tony_math	jrib: how do I use apt-get to install the software updates?	00:45
ghost	tony_math: sudo apt-get update	00:46
jrib	tony_math: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade (or apt-get if you prefer it)	00:46
teprrr	hello there. just wanted to ask if there's a page where one can watch the packages going to hardy and so on?	00:46
tony_math	MoTec: I see that now. There's nothing in /var/log to indicate what's going on.	00:46
ghost	tony_math: sudo apt-get update	00:46
Chewy954	is it safe to install ubuntu through vmware onto a partition to natively boot it?	00:46
Sepheebear	lunks: that's strange. and you cant modprobe nvidiafb	00:46
kelsin	teprrr: you can always search at packages.ubuntu.com, I don't know about any rss feed or anything	00:46
sipsipclick	g0th, have you tried other wallpapers or just the one? you could try creating a new user account for yourself	00:46
teprrr	ie. one could see pending packages and why they're pending and so on	00:46
teprrr	kelsin, yup, I know about p.u.c, but it doesn't have such an information :P	00:47
Sepheebear	lunks: how about if you explicitly blacklist vesafb and boot up with it blacklisted?	00:47
Pelo	sorry about that folks	00:47
* bruenig does not forgive		00:47
g0th	sipsipclick: I tried different wallpapers and I don't really wanna repeat all the settings for another user	00:47
ghost	How is the state of 'desktop effects'	00:47
g0th	shouldn't it be enough to reset certain properties/files?	00:47
Sepheebear	lunks: and include nvidiafb and fbcon in your initramfs	00:47
ghost	is it really just compis-fusion?	00:47
tony_math	jrib: Thanks :) Your comands worked. I had about 38 updates pending and now they're downloading and preparing for install.	00:47
anton__	Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux?	00:47
bruenig	ghost, yes	00:48
lunks	Sepheebear: just 'modprobe nvidiafb' seems to work. I have blacklisted it in /etc/modprobe.d blacklist and blacklist.framebuffer	00:48
kitche	ghost: it's compiz with compiz-fusion	00:48
lunks	Sepheebear: hmm any tip on messing around with initramfs?	00:48
lunks	I've never done it.	00:48
Sepheebear	lunks: but did you include the framebuffer mods in the initramfs?	00:48
ghost	what is the package for the configure app?	00:48
sipsipclick	g0th, no doubt. unfortunately that's the easiest route with some of these gnome issues. you could try running nautilus from the command line and see if you get any errors	00:48
lunks	Sepheebear: I haven't myself, AFAIR	00:48
anton__	Is there a player like foobar2000 in linux? With just one big window for 1 playlist? Not like amarok...	00:48
ghost	is it as robust as Bryle and Emrald was?	00:49
jrib	ghost: be more specific	00:49
kitche	!ccsm \| ghost is one configure application	00:49
ubotu	ghost is one configure application: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion	00:49
mattep	ALguien habla español ¿	00:49
bill_k	anton__: VLC?	00:49
g0th	sipsipclick: I don't run nautilus at all	00:49
mattep	Me ayudan	00:49
mattep	xD	00:49
bill_k	!vlc	00:49
ubotu	Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs	00:49
jrib	!es \| mattep	00:49
ubotu	mattep: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	00:49
lunks	Sepheebear: That's why I was looking for the black ttys tutorial, to revert it accurately.	00:49
anton__	bill_k: I want to use VLC for movies only...	00:49
sipsipclick	g0th, nautilus is your file/desktop manager in gnome by default	00:49
g0th	sipsipclick: I don't need a file manager	00:49
Sepheebear	lunks: try that, include fbcon and nvidiafb in "/etc/initramfs-tools/modules"	00:49
jshriver	konichiwa	00:49
lunks	Sepheebear: hah! that should be it	00:49
jshriver	how do you upgrade from fiesty fawn to gutsy gibbon?	00:50
bill_k	anton__: why?	00:50
mattep	#kubuntu-es	00:50
lunks	Sepheebear: vesafb is uncommented, and nvidiafb is commented out.	00:50
ghost	jrib: Like can I install profiles and new stuff?	00:50
lunks	Sepheebear: Thanks, I'll try it.	00:50
anton__	bill_k: Just feels better :P	00:50
Sepheebear	lunks: then make sure to run `sudo update-initramfs -u` afterwards	00:50
lunks	I should do updateinitramfs -u	00:50
jrib	ghost: for what? configure what?	00:50
lunks	yeah thnx	00:50
sipsipclick	g0th, if you aren't running nautilus then that's why you don't see a background. if you really don't want it you can try using xsetroot or bsetbg at login to set the wallpaper	00:50
kitche	jshriver: gksu update-manager -c is the gui way	00:50
g0th	nautilus is quite slow and resource heavy so I deactivated it since I never ever used it	00:50
lunks	Sepheebear: Really appreciated. :)	00:50
ghost	compiz	00:50
bill_k	anton__: hah, ok. I've just used vlc, mplayer, and amarok	00:50
g0th	hmm	00:50
g0th	ahh	00:50
jrib	ghost: compiz-config-settings-manager	00:50
Sepheebear	lunks: let us know how it ends up	00:50
skyfalcon866	!logs	00:51
jshriver	kitche, domo arigatu	00:51
ubotu	Channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ - Logs for LoCo channels are at http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/	00:51
g0th	so nautilus is responsible for the desktop background usually?	00:51
kelsin	g0th: well nautilus is what sets the desktop, so that's you're problem	00:51
Frederick	folks my x server is borked up	00:51
anton__	bill_k: Okok.	00:51
sipsipclick	g0th, under gnome yeah	00:51
kelsin	g0th: yes it manages the desktop in gnome	00:51
g0th	ok thanks	00:51
kitche	!english \| jshriver	00:51
ghost	The Human Theme is all well and good, but I want to try out some newer stuff	00:51
ubotu	jshriver: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	00:51
skyfalcon866	!nautilus	00:51
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about nautilus - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	00:51
g0th	I thought it was only a file manager	00:51
Frederick	and alt + fnumber is not giving me other terminals	00:51
skyfalcon866	g0th: it is	00:51
jshriver	sorry	00:51
ghost	Oh, and does anyone know if it will work with KDE4 when it comes out?	00:51
jshriver	gksu update-manager -c didnt work	00:51
g0th	well the desktop background hasn't much to do with file management	00:51
Sepheebear	ghost: have you tried some of the dark themes?	00:51
skyfalcon866	konqueror is a file manger/web browser	00:51
sipsipclick	g0th, look at xsetroot or bsetbg	00:51
g0th	thanks	00:51
ghost	Sepheebear: no, but I intend too	00:51
MoTec	Frederick: you might be able to kill it with CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE	00:51
kitche	jshriver: you have to refresh update manager if it didn't auto refresh then there is a button at the top saying new release available	00:52
graft	ghost: it'll work with kde4, but kwin4 is going to have its own compositing effects	00:52
ghost	Sepheebear: where do you go for your themes?	00:52
Sepheebear	ghost: im currently running the ubuntustudio theme and I love it	00:52
ghost	graft: excellent.	00:52
Frederick	MoTec: I know but I need to set this crap	00:52
Menacie	MoTec	00:52
Frederick	I think I ghot issues cause it is a widescreen monitor	00:52
Menacie	i have just put 1680x1050 as first after modes	00:52
Menacie	still nothing	00:52
ghost	Sepheebear: link? I am curious about studio how do you like it?	00:52
jshriver	kitche, thanks tried it again w/o -c	00:52
Menacie	Modes"1680x1050@60""1600x1200@65""1400x1050@60""1280x960@75""1280x1024@60""1280x960@60""1280x1024@75""1152x864@75""1024x768@60""1024x768@70""102	00:53
jshriver	running now :)	00:53
MoTec	You have to restart X	00:53
tpratt_	where can I get the KEY for the gos repository	00:53
kitche	tpratt_: gos repository?	00:53
kelsin	Frederick: ussually from the X console you have to ctrl-alt-F# to get to the other terminals	00:53
Sepheebear	ghost: sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-theme ubuntustudio-icon-theme	00:53
MoTec	Menacie: also, make sure you find all the lines that start with Modes	00:53
tpratt_	oops	00:53
tpratt_	nevermind	00:53
jshriver	brb	00:53
graft	damnit... how do i keep my sound from looping all the time?	00:53
Frederick	kelsin: no	00:53
ghost	Sepheebear: I was also kinda talking about the distro	00:53
Frederick	kelsin: it does not work here gives me a completely black screen	00:53
graft	it's completely pointless having a sound card with this nonsense happening	00:53
kitche	!ubuntu-studio \| ghost	00:54
ubotu	ghost: UbuntuStudio is a collection of packages for the artist who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation. It contains all the best Audio/Visual components from the Ubuntu repositories. For more info and install instructions, join #ubuntustudio or see http://ubuntustudio.org	00:54
Sepheebear	ghost: well im running pretty stock gutsy with just the ubuntustudio theme on top	00:54
ghost	ah got it	00:54
sipsipclick	graft, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2252946 ?	00:54
Sepheebear	ghost: but afaik ubuntustudio just adds a few apps, sounds, and graphics	00:55
ghost	fair enough	00:55
Sepheebear	ghost: no real core difference	00:55
Dankchild	hey guys, im running the livecd trying to change the size of a partition with gparted but it says its mounted, what do i do?	00:55
ghost	no kernel patches or anything like that	00:55
Sepheebear	ghost: no	00:55
kitche	ghost: ubuntu-studio kernel has a kernel patch for low latency	00:56
kelsin	Dankchild: I would download the gparted live cd and boot into it	00:56
Pelo	Dankchild, gparted on the 7..10 live cd is a bit buggy, try the 7.04 live cd instead if you have it , if not right cick the partiton and select unmount	00:56
graft	sipsipclick: not quite like that... seems to only happen when the sound is stopped playing	00:56
kelsin	Dankchild: n/m my comment, I read your line wrong	00:56
ghost	kitche: really? why would't desktop have that as well?	00:56
astro76	Dankchild, right click in gparted and unmount	00:56
graft	sipsipclick: like, if i play something with mplayer, the last half-second will loop after it finishes playing. also the process will hang and won't die until killed	00:57
kitche	ghost: it's for audio programs a desktop doesn't really use low latency that much it's for sound not for networking	00:57
Sepheebear	kitche: i've never seen the ubuntustudio kernel package. where did you get it	00:57
kitche	Sepheebear: it's right int he ubuntu repos	00:57
sipsipclick	graft, is it just with mplayer?	00:57
ghost	kitche, I thought low latency processing was handy for a lot of things?	00:57
graft	sipsipclick: no, with anything	00:57
ghost	kitche: like gimp and diskcacheing and whatnot?	00:58
kitche	ghost: umm it's mostly for sound really and video processing when making a movie or recording audio and such	00:58
nokompranos	anyone had success loading the latest ubuntu on dell inspiron 6400 - my X never seems to work	00:58
Dankchild	astro76: i did that and it gives me an error saying cannot blah blah blah mounted.	00:58
Pelo	nokompranos, what is the videocard on that comp	00:58
Pelo	?	00:58
steven_laptop	setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or	00:58
kelsin	Dankchild: oh did you mean the ubuntu livecd? If you continue having problems I would go download the Gparted livecd, good one to have around	00:59
steven_laptop	setup up a new server and ordering parts tomorrow but have "A"? witch is better go Daul Xeon 3.0 or intel Exreme Quad	00:59
Dankchild	so ive heard, ill try that.	00:59
ghost	kitche hm. do you know of a good site I can read about the kernel's and specifically ubuntus? im sure its in the documentation site but I havn't found that. I want to build my own kernel on this box sooner or later to streamline it	00:59
steven_laptop	touchy fingers sorry all double posting	00:59
ghost	additionally I would like to speed up my boot process all together, Ubuntu boots much slower then my gentoo install did (but in ubuntu my stuff actually works lol)	00:59
Pelo	ghost, go into menu > system > admin > services and uncheck all the services you donT' use	01:00
Menacie	MoTec, still no luck	01:00
MoTec	Menacie: are you using an ATI card?	01:01
ghost	Pelo, already did that	01:01
Menacie	nVidia	01:01
Menacie	7600GS	01:01
ghost	Pelo but if i build a much smaller kernel with all my needed modules built in shouldn't that boot faster?	01:01
Netham45	"proxyDHCP offers were received. No DHCP offers were recieved."	01:01
Netham45	I'm getting that when trying to network boot	01:01
Pelo	Menacie, what are you trying to do ? boot the live cd ?	01:01
Menacie	no, i've installed ubuntu, but i cant get 1680 x 1050 resolution	01:01
xTheGoat121x	So my processor runs approx. 10 degrees warmer in Ubuntu than it does in XP	01:02
Pelo	ghost, I'm not that leet , there wre a few articles on digg about speeding up the boot in ubuntu, try searching there and see if you can come up with anything	01:02
xTheGoat121x	so that the fan is on nearly constantly.	01:02
michael	Im attempting to dl NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.19-pkg1.run, seems simple straight off the site, but i think there is a command that would make it easier, anyone have an idea for a command or could walk me through the installation proccess so i could properly install it this time ^^	01:02
Pelo	xTheGoat121x, cpufreq might help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty	01:03
michael	Using Gutsy Gibbons-	01:03
ghost	hey is their any reason to run both apmd and acpid at the same time?	01:03
kelsin	ghost: Probably, but we're talking milliseconds here, the main thing to speed up boot is to turn off things you don't need, check out the /etc/rc2.d directory and see what is there that you probably don't want running all of the time	01:03
MoTec	Hmm, Menacie is gone	01:03
kelsin	michael: the restricted driver manager worked for me on my nvidia machines	01:03
Administrator_	is that posibale to replace win xp pro whit linux ubuntu for all usage?	01:04
eth01	turn of colour for grub load.	01:04
ghost	kelsin, hm... do you know of a good resource for reaserching the linux init process?	01:04
michael	ok, let me check	01:04
kelsin	Administrator_: depends on your uses	01:04
eth01	and 5 countdown.	01:04
Pelo	Administrator_, most of it , I haven'T realy used windows in over a year	01:04
ghost	kelsin that is a gray area for me	01:04
Pelo	Administrator_, do you have any odd or very specialised apps you need to run ?	01:04
kelsin	ghost: no sorry :), but you def will get more use looking at what's started in runlevel 2 (the /etc/rc2.d dir) then researching kernel startup	01:04
Administrator_	old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?	01:04
Administrator_	old games , videos , voice files , surfing net?	01:05
ghost	kelsin, that sounds logical	01:05
kelsin	Administrator_: depends on the old games, but linux can definitely work with media and the net juts fine	01:05
Pelo	Administrator_, old games you might need to run on wine if you realy want to play them , voice files I am not sure what you mean, I can play all videos I have, and I surfing the net is not an issue at all	01:05
ozzy	xd i've now down something	01:06
ozzy	and the sides are black :S	01:06
ghost	WOW there is a lot of stuff in there	01:06
michael	Kelsin_: ima try this and be abck in a sec-- needs restart	01:06
Administrator_	old games usually commandos 2 , stratiges games that aple to play with 32vga	01:06
ghost	kelsin, is it possible to 'comment out' these scripts? I assume there is some kind of rc config file	01:07
xTheGoat121x	Pelo, I already have frequency scaling set up.	01:07
Pelo	Administrator_, you can try the live cd and give ubuntu a try without installing it , or you can install it and dual boot, a lot of ppl do that and try is out fully installed for a while	01:07
ghost	I don't want to delete these scripts as i wouldn't know how ot remake em	01:07
kelsin	ghost: you can use the update-rc.d program to manage them, and others	01:07
kelsin	ghost: the files in the /etc/rc2.d folder ar ejust symlinks to /etc/init.d	01:07
ghost	kelsin I thought that just adds and removes them...	01:07
kelsin	ghost: there are graphical utilities to manage it as well, yes it does just add and remove, and that's all you need to do to remove them from startup, it doesn't touch the original scripst in /etc/init.d	01:08
ghost	kelsin, i assumed its something like that... I just don't want to break a link to something i need	01:08
Administrator_	& what about cbt's?	01:08
ghost	kelsin oh excellent	01:08
kelsin	ghost: of course, but that's the full list of what is run at startup	01:08
ghost	Thanks	01:08
Pelo	Administrator_, by default you cannot run windows app or games on any linux distro, but you can install wine ( which uses the windows api thingy ) and run most windows apps and games, specialy the older ones, you can look your cames up on their site to know if they hvae been tried and the results, www.winehq.org	01:08
ghost	like... ppp support... who still uses modems in the age of home offices lol	01:08
Pelo	Administrator_, cbt?	01:08
kelsin	you can also read the /etc/rc2.d/README file, it suggests a renaming method so you still even know what was there	01:09
Pelo	ghost, many ppl don'T have relaible or cheap hi-speed in their area you'd be surprised	01:09
ghost	Pelo, true true.	01:09
Administrator_	like cbtnuggets , learnkey	01:09
ozzy	i still cant get my resolution sorted:(	01:10
Administrator_	products	01:10
ghost	kelsin, would it be possible (im sure it is) to bind the launching of the bluetooth service to the hardware toggle script i made?	01:10
MoTec	Administrator_: if you have to run specific windows apps you're better off with windows... if you have flexibility about the app you run, and are willing to try alternatives.. ubuntu can easily replace windows for general use.	01:10
ghost	like, i want to start the service when i start the hardware and turn it off when not...	01:11
Pelo	Administrator_, don't know what those are, but like I said you can always try to run wndows stuff on wine and see if it works properly, but we prefer to suggest you try looking for a linux alternateive, most of which are free	01:11
kelsin	ghost: yeah, you can always call those init.d scripts (as root) with "/etc/init.d/script-name start"	01:11
Pelo	ozzy, do you get a gui ?	01:11
SuperKonny	Hello, I am trying to use ssh -D for a SOCKS/HTTP proxy, but I am not understanding how to do so I don't guess. I keep getting my current login .	01:11
ghost	maybe I should make that a forum post.	01:11
MoTec	Administrator_: And the package manager has a great deal of packages listed.. You can boot off of a live cd, explore what's available, easily, using the package manager.	01:11
jrib	SuperKonny: ssh -D PORT user@host	01:11
ghost	I should probably read more on init and bash scripting in general before I mess with that	01:11
dana_bad	everytime i open system -> preferences -> hardware information the program immediately closes	01:11
JonathanD	good evening	01:12
SuperKonny	jrib: I am wanting to so that people can use my server as a connection (proxy)	01:12
SuperKonny	jrib: not login to my ssh shell	01:12
Pelo	dana_bad, you have an actual problem , this has been mentionned before but I ahve never seen a fix in here, check the forum www.ubuntuforums.org	01:12
SuperKonny	jrib: would that require something else ?	01:12
Administrator_	ok i there another than wine that run all app	01:12
Administrator_	?	01:12
Pelo	ozzy, I don'T allow private msg, please talk to me in the channel	01:12
ozzy	Pelo, yes i get a lot of different options to change resolution, just not 1680 x 1050	01:12
jrib	SuperKonny: yes, afaik	01:13
nixNewb	howdy, i just installeed ubutunu 7.04 server on a comp, how do i control it via ssh?	01:13
MoTec	Administrator_: windows	01:13
ghost	kelsin, does the built in 'session' gui app control what is found in the etc/rc2.d/ linkfolder?	01:13
Administrator_	yes	01:13
MoTec	That's the alternative to wine, if you must run windows apps	01:13
Administrator_	and whats x windows	01:13
ghost	nixNewb, you have to install the ssh server on the 7.04 server	01:13
alysh	hey people, is ubuntu sent any of you a big update pack about an hour ago? (00:00 PM)	01:13
Administrator_	?	01:13
nixNewb	how do i go about doing that?	01:13
DIL	yea	01:13
Pelo	ozzy, ah , that is easy , open a terminal , type gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf add the resolution you need to the list, respect the synatx , save, restart X ( ctrl _alt _backspace) and go back to the resolution dialog box	01:14
nixNewb	if i try sudo apt-get install ssh-server it asks me for the cd, i put in the cd, then it asks me for the ced	01:14
joseph	how do i look up my gateway adress in ubuntu...its ipconfig in windows	01:14
nixNewb	*cd	01:14
MoTec	x windows is the core graphical system used in linux	01:14
PriceChild	nixNewb, openssh-server	01:14
alysh	DIL: yea, to me? :P	01:14
nixNewb	joseph, ifconfig	01:14
DIL	ifconfig	01:14
joseph	no i tried that	01:14
joseph	it doesnt show gateway	01:14
ghost	nixNewb: I don't know off the top of my head but ~man openssh-server should give you all the info you need	01:14
AndrewB	JonathanD: woop!	01:14
DIL	yep	01:14
JonathanD	AndrewB: hello there.	01:14
MoTec	x windows it has nothing to do with the windows opeating system	01:14
kelsin	shono that only affects what is run when the gnome-session process starts up	01:14
jrib	SuperKonny: google "ubuntu proxy server" maybe	01:14
nixNewb	PriceChild, it then asks me for my cd, which i put in, but then it says the cd is invalid (even though I just used it to install the os)	01:14
Pelo	alysh, updates come and go , over the last week I have had severals, some very large it is pretty normal	01:14
Administrator_	and whats x windows?	01:14
SuperKonny	I don't see how hard it is to install a HTTP proxy, I mean , the IRC BNC was easy	01:14
nixNewb	or should i be asking how do i update the apt-get resource list	01:15
PriceChild	nixNewb, remove the cd from your sources list (system > preferences > software sources)	01:15
kelsin	Administrator_: x windows is the software the handles gui apps in linux	01:15
Pelo	Administrator_, the softare that controls your windows basicaly	01:15
Administrator_	like wine?	01:15
kelsin	Administrator_: it's the real low level code handling window creations and management	01:15
ghost	Administrator_: x windows is the 'windows' that your programs appear in. It is the graphical user interface (gui)	01:15
astro76	SuperKonny, the users will need logins to use ssh as a proxy	01:15
nixNewb	PriceChild, as server edition i have no gui, what file do i edit?	01:15
MoTec	In computing, the X Window System (commonly X11 or X) is a display protocol which provides windowing on bitmap displays.	01:15
trebaruna	Is there an easy way to tell forcedeth to take a specified MAC address if the one supplied by the motherboard is invalid (nForce4)? It gives an invalid one after suspend, and now the driver generates a random MAC	01:15
MoTec	wiki ftw :)	01:15
kelsin	Administrator_: wine is a copy of the windows api, not quite the same as X windows	01:15
SuperKonny	astro76: huh?	01:16
Pelo	Administrator_, wine is a sort of emulator but not an emulator, x is the part of the prog taht manages your graphics	01:16
nixNewb	found it online	01:16
nixNewb	thanks guys	01:16
nixNewb	/etc/aptsources.list	01:16
nixNewb	/etc/apt/sources.list	01:16
Administrator_	ok is there only wine for open win apps?	01:16
ghost	Administrator_: don't worry, it is a difficult conept to understand at first. Like in windows there is a program called 'explore.exe' that is the X11 in linux	01:16
kelsin	Pelo: (W)ine (I)s (N)ot an (E)mulator! :)	01:16
MoTec	Administrator_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System more than you ever wanted to know about X	01:16
Pelo	Administrator_, cedega is another one, but it cost money, wine is pretty reliable	01:17
kelsin	Administrator_: wine tries to run windows programs, it will try and run any windows program with varying degrees or correctness	01:17
alysh	Pelo: Of course, but i'm suspected about my server for a while. First, i update on Bilgi University server (~100MB] half hour later, when i switch Intergania server i took one more 100MB too. Because of that i asked about updates. Is this normal and two updates are different packages, or first server is screwed?	01:17
komputes	Administrator_: crossover office but it's $$$, also vmware	01:17
SuperKonny	astro76: I tried ssh -D LocalIP#:aporthere , and it just gives me the ssh help again	01:17
dana_bad	Pelo: thanks	01:17
MoTec	Administrator_: Seriously... If you have to run windows apps, run windows. If you don't have to run specific windows apps there are a great many alternatives that run great, instead.	01:17
Pelo	alysh, I just opened the upgrade manager and I have 22 aps available, and I upgraded about 2hrs ago	01:18
rhpot1991	I have a box running gutsy (and mythtv) which randomly crashes for no good reason, maybe twice a month, I have checked syslog and there isn't anything of importance in there from the time of the crash (I can see a cron job that runs every 5 minutes, then a long gap of time till it gets a reboot signal), the only error in dmesg is this: ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initramfs... error, file /DSDT.aml not found (which I read isn't a concerna	01:18
kelsin	SuperKonny: you need to add the machine you want to connect to after that, it can't really be used as a Proxy server	01:18
MoTec	rhpot1991: sounds like hardware	01:18
ghost	Administrator_: The only thing wine is really useful for is that odd application that does not have a opensource counterpart, and for older windows games	01:19
alysh	Pelo: thanks, anymore person took big update pack about an hour (or more) ago?	01:19
SuperKonny	kelsin: So I wont be able to use ssh -D , and then for my friends to put my IP#:port in firefox, etc , and use my connection ?	01:19
ghost	wine fallout2 ftw	01:19
kelsin	ghost: I run warcraft III and wow in wine just fine :)	01:19
Pelo	rhpot1991, check sudo crontab see if there is anything in there taht shouldnT' be there	01:19
ghost	me too lol	01:19
MoTec	Administrator_: Give the live cd a try.. and explore the packages available. It's very impressive :)	01:19
kelsin	SuperKonny: no	01:19
ghost	actually i never got wow working but that was a while ago	01:19
rhpot1991	sudo crontab is empty	01:19
ghost	back when you had to do custome patches and stuff	01:19
SuperKonny	kelsin: that is what I am wanting.	01:19
kelsin	ghost: it's really wasy now lol :)	01:19
MoTec	SuperKonny: ssh is not a relay or proxy	01:20
ghost	kelsin heh yeah but i broke my addiction to wowrocks	01:20
Administrator_	i want just few games i fav maybe 1 only i don't play games a lot & is crossover & cedega better than wine?	01:20
ghost	I play GW every now and again	01:20
kelsin	SuperKonny: you need to look at proxy servers, like Quid	01:20
kelsin	SuperKonny: I meant: Squid	01:20
SuperKonny	MoTec: Under the man ssh , I see that -D appears to be so	01:20
MoTec	Administrator_: wine will likely work, then for your game or two.. How about applications?	01:20
rhpot1991	I see this happening every 30 mins:	01:20
rhpot1991	De 4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6309]: (root) CMD ( [ -d /var/lib/php4 ] && find /var/lib/php4/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php4/maxlifetime) -print0 \| xargs -r -0 rm)	01:21
rhpot1991	Dec 4 19:09:01 ultramagnus /USR/SBIN/CRON[6311]: (root) CMD ( [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -print0 \| xargs -r -0 rm)	01:21
Administrator_	i try maybe 3 ditro from cd	01:21
Eds	Kelsin, I tried running wow with wine but I had a crappy frame rate. Lots of tearing when I was running foward and you could see the frames rendering horizontally down the screen	01:21
kelsin	ghost: actually same here :)	01:21
Pelo	Administrator_, try wine first , since it is free , and look in add/remove menu, several games are there arlready for you to try and a few more on the net if you google	01:21
kelsin	Eds: were you running opengl mode?	01:21
ghost	kelsin; hawken deadeye	01:21
ghost	send me a request	01:21
MoTec	Administrator_: Right, explore the 'add / remove software' section. lots of stuff to install and check out.	01:21
Pelo	Administrator_, install ubuntu on a seperate partiton , you won'T regret it	01:21
kelsin	anyway dinner time :)	01:21
nixNewb	I got it working, thanks guys	01:21
ghost	I need to install it still	01:21
SuperKonny	kelsin: can that be installed without being root ?	01:21
nixNewb	I had to change the /etc/apt/sources.list	01:21
Administrator_	i like specific games i don't play game usaly	01:22
Eds	Kelsin: Yeah I was, I also made the registry hack changes I had to do. Everything looked fine just went I ran alone I could see the render. Albiet I was using a 8800GTS which may or may not be supported	01:22
Administrator_	maybe fav just commandos 2	01:22
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Administrator_	& maybe stratagy	01:22
SuperKonny	nixNewb: I like those Suddenlink commericals, "suddenly, we're connecteedddd"	01:22
rhpot1991	I'm working on the assumption that thats something php needs done, as I didn't add it to any crontab anywhere	01:22
Pelo	Administrator_, neither do I , but like I said you can dual boot for a while and see if they work, still have your widows install so you can go and play then if they don't , and worst case scenario you can always run windows as a virtual machine inside ubuntu to play those games	01:23
Pelo	Administrator_, there are several alternatives	01:23
comicinker	as soon as I open a menu I cannot make a screenshot. is there a small trick, maybe?	01:23
Pelo	Administrator_, giving it a good try is the best thing you can do	01:23
nickrud	rhpot1991: if you look in /etc/cron.d , you'll probably see what was added	01:24
Administrator_	if wine dont meet what i need is a crossover & cedega maybe dose?	01:24
Pelo	comicinker, how are you trying to take the screenshot ?	01:24
comicinker	Pelo: with the print key	01:25
Pelo	Administrator_, you'd have to ask in a crossover or cedega channel	01:25
Administrator_	thx	01:25
Pelo	comicinker, I was hoping you were using the app, let me try	01:25
MoTec	SuperKonny: You using something like: ssh -D 8888 remote.host.name	01:25
Bikerbob	anyone here help with fglrx on ubuntu?	01:25
Pelo	comicinker, doesnt, work for me either	01:25
Administrator_	whats more stable ubuntu 7.10 or ubuntu 7.04	01:26
ghost	Oh ntfs support is already installed on 7.10, how strong is it now? I currently have a 60gig Vista partition and a 25 gig ubuntu partition... I need the Vista one the larger simply because Games are huge these days... my hope though was to use that partition for storage for both OS's	01:26
comicinker	Pelo: didn't know about that app. thats it. thanks!	01:26
rhpot1991	purges hanging php sessions it seems	01:26
rhpot1991	in /etc/cron.d I have php4, php5, anacron, and mdadm	01:26
dana_bad	ghost: i write to my ntfs partitions all the tiem	01:26
rhpot1991	all seem normal	01:26
sethk	ghost, as you know, reading from the ntfs partition is not a problem.	01:26
Pelo	Administrator_, 7.10 is the latest, it is very stable for most ppl , a few seem to have dificulties but that happens in every release , it is usualy caused by hardware issues	01:26
ghost	the only thing yo ucan't do is change permissions right?	01:27
sethk	ghost, the write that is considered reliable more or less runs in an emulation engine, I believe	01:27
ghost	because NTFS has that whacked out permission's scheme	01:27
sethk	ghost, yes, that's true.	01:27
Phill	Ok; I'm trying to edit my mouse behavior so it's like a middle click (it's this extra button) how can I go about doing that, I think it's possible with xvkbd, xmodmap and xf86-input - all installed.	01:27
rhpot1991	if hardware was failing shouldn't there be some sort of error at some point?	01:27
Administrator_	is it beter than 7.04	01:27
xTheGoat121x	So my CPU frequency is set up properly, but I'm still getting a fan that turns on every 30 seconds or so	01:27
Administrator_	?	01:27
sethk	ghost, the point is not so much that it is whacked out, rather M$ won't release the details.	01:27
rhpot1991	I ran smartctrl on the root drive today, checked out fine	01:27
dana_bad	ghost: and sethk: you cant edit any file meta data to my knowledge	01:27
Batlas	Anyone know if Macromedia has some 64 bit support for flash yet?	01:27
rhpot1991	I believe I have run memtest on this box before, though I can try again	01:28
Phill	The button; can be configured like so...	01:28
ghost	now i know it works all and well good in NTFS, but as I understand Vista is using a newer version of NTFS?	01:28
sethk	xTheGoat121x, that's not necessarily a problem	01:28
Phill	xmodmap -e "keycode 122 = F5"	01:28
Pelo	Administrator_, I think so , but the default theme could use a little work, it's not a problem anyway youcan change theme pretty easily	01:28
Phill	My main problem; is if someoen can tell me what the middle click "key" is.	01:28
sethk	ghost, I didn't think so about vista, but this is #ubuntu and I'm hardly a vista expert	01:28
nickrud	rhpot1991: if it's a box, reset all cards,chips, and cables. Worked for me over half the time	01:28
stib	Hi all - I made a backup of my linux root partition using dd, before wiping the drive. Now I've restored the drive but I can't install grub. One thing I noticed that the drive numbers have all incremented, so instead of it being on sda2 the linux partition is now sda5. Could that be my problem?	01:28
Administrator_	ok how much size for swap i need?	01:29
ghost	Basically I just want to store my large data in that partition... music and movies, etc, that way I can have access to both	01:29
Pelo	!grub \| stib	01:29
ubotu	stib: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	01:29
ghost	from what I am hearing that should be perfectly suitable	01:29
sethk	rhpot1991, memtest86 has major improvements. Nevertheless, testing memory effectively is close to impossible	01:29
rhpot1991	I guess I'll try that out and then make a forum post with my syslog and dmesg if it dies again	01:29
Pelo	Administrator_, 2x RAM	01:29
rhpot1991	I can always get my ram replaced too	01:29
Phill	So basically; all I need is someone to go to terminal and type in... "xbindkeys -k" click middle click; and tell me what it returns.	01:29
sethk	ghost, you can certainly read the files from linux.	01:29
Pelo	Administrator_, you can let the isntaller take care of that	01:29
sethk	ghost, so if you don't mind writing them in vista, you are set	01:29
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sethk	ghost, obviously that's not a real solution	01:29
SpookyET	hi	01:29
ghost	I would want to write	01:29
rhpot1991	crucial lifetime warranty and all	01:29
ghost	right right thats like terrible	01:30
stib	Pelo: I've run the grub installer from my install disk, but it dies with a fatal error	01:30
ari_stress	morning all	01:30
SpookyET	Does tracker index pdf files. I can't find any of my stuff.	01:30
Pelo	stib, wht is the error ?	01:30
dana_bad	ghost: as far as i can tell vista and xp use the same file system	01:30
xTheGoat121x	sethk, alas, when the CPU still runs 10 degrees hotter in ubuntu than it does in XP... yeah, it's an issue. Plus, I don't want to shorten the life of my fan.	01:30
sethk	ghost, I'm very conservative. File system problems have a nasty way of remaining hidden until you destroy all your data.	01:30
ari_stress	SpookyET: i believe so	01:30
kazol	My flash drive is being mounted as read-only erratically-any solutions?	01:30
dana_bad	ghost: i'd recommend trying it out with a live cd	01:30
Administrator_	is it beter if i increase it or its ok with 2x ram?	01:30
Pelo	kazol, ntfs format ?	01:30
ari_stress	SpookyET: maybe because your nickname is too spooky for trankerd :D	01:30
sethk	xTheGoat121x, have you tried setting the speed manually? Not as a solution, but as a test to see if that's the problem.	01:30
kazol	Pelo: VFAT	01:31
SpookyET	ari_stress: he	01:31
joseph	i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl and it gives me this error wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle	01:31
Pelo	Administrator_, I barely use mine, 2xram is fine for the majority of ppl , if you have a lot of memory you can probably make it smaller by a lot i mean 4 gig +	01:31
Phill	exit	01:31
SpookyET	ari_stress: it also does not seem to be deleting old entries that don't exist.	01:31
Phill	woops; wrong thing.	01:31
Pelo	kazol, chmod the mount point	01:31
SpookyET	it's idle	01:31
gordonjcp	swap is an outmoded concept	01:31
joseph	i type wine "/media/sda2/Program Files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2" -opengl and it gives me this error wine: could not load L"Z:\\media\\sda2\\Program Files\\EA GAMES\\Battlefield 2.": Invalid handle	01:32
gordonjcp	memory is cheap	01:32
CyberMad	i want to configure xorg.conf because there is problem with my monitor, when entering ubuntu my monitor display: "Out of Range H 63,7 KHz V 59,8 Hz"	01:32
xTheGoat121x	sethk.... I've had the processor down as far as I can get it.	01:32
krank_	Anyone have any advice on getting two monitors to work in 7.10? How do you tell what monitor is which?	01:32
CyberMad	i confuse, how to configure the monitor hertz with that information on xorg.conf ??	01:32
Administrator_	i have 192M ram then is 384M swap ok or beter to increase it?	01:32
stib	hmm, can't remember. I'll be back	01:32
sethk	sethk, what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?	01:33
Pelo	CyberMad, open xorg.conf look for the vert refresh and horiz sync values, change them for taht is listed on the label on the back of you rmonitor	01:33
rabidweezle	Here's an age old problem, I have a 160 gig seagate hard drive. I have a motherboard with the old 33 gig bios limitation and there is NO update for the bios available (msi...) Supposedly linux was supposed to just See the hard drive one I installed and made a partition just for /boot	01:33
sethk	xTheGoat121x, , what I mean is, do you have an independent way to measure whether the processor is really running at the slower speed, and/or do you have a way to verify that the reported temperature is correct?	01:33
]RandoM[	i screwed up the permissions on my home directory.. how do i fix it?	01:33
Pelo	Administrator_, make it 1 gig of swap	01:33
sethk	sethk, sent a message to myself. :)	01:33
Pelo	Administrator_, also consider using xubuntu , it is a bit lighter then ubuntu	01:33
]RandoM[	chmod 644 doesn't do it	01:33
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Pelo	rando chmod 755	01:34
komputes	]RandoM[: do you ger an error, did you try sudo chmod	01:34
rabidweezle	well, it doesn't see the rest of the hard drive and I have been searching for months for a way to fix it, with kernel options and everything, nothing has worked	01:34
sethk	xTheGoat121x, the point is, something isn't working the way it claims to be working. So the way to track that down is to verify the measurements.	01:34
CyberMad	Pelo yes, i know there is setting of Hertz... ok i found behind my monitor: GTC Millenia, Power Rating: 100-240V ~ 50/60Hz 1.5A	01:34
]RandoM[	ahh.. i'll try 755	01:34
sethk	xTheGoat121x, if they verify, something is wrong with the way the data is processed. If not, obviously, v.v.	01:34
]RandoM[	i don't get an error it just won't let me login after i change it to 644	01:34
CyberMad	Pelo depends on that information.. what i have to set on H and V	01:34
xTheGoat121x	sethk... ok, so how might I go about figuring out either one of those.	01:34
]RandoM[	i'll try 755	01:35
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Administrator_	is lighter mean a speeder?	01:35
rabidweezle	for windows I used a DDO or a dynamic drive overlay, it's a piece of software in the MBR that tells the system it has a larger hard drive than what the bios reports	01:35
Pelo	CyberMad, usual you get a mejtion V=... H=... or someting similar, try checkingyour manual or looking up the specs of your monitor on the makers website	01:35
nickrud	]RandoM[: try chmod -R 644 (you'll need to change ~/.dmrc to 600 afterwards	01:35
rabidweezle	it works for windows because windows didn't try to overwrite it	01:35
rabidweezle	but GRUB overwrites it	01:35
]RandoM[	ahhh thx	01:35
rabidweezle	hence it doesn't see the larger hard drive	01:35
Pelo	CyberMad, on what I see, set the hi value of h for 60 , not sure about the v	01:35
Pelo	CyberMad, but I am only guessing	01:36
riotkittie	/juo	01:36
riotkittie	errr	01:36
rabidweezle	I mean it see's it, but it gimps it down from 160 gigs to 30 gigs	01:36
CyberMad	Pelo i try find the manual book.. just a minute	01:36
sethk	xTheGoat121x, To measure the temperature you need one of those infrared temperature meters	01:36
michael	using Gutsy-- How can i check how much ram i have on my computer without a restart?	01:36
SpookyET	I'm having issues with suspend and hibernate, and when the screen is turned off. When i suspend, it shuts down. If it turns the screen off after n minutes, the screen will not turn on when i press a key.	01:36
jrib	michael: free -m	01:36
Pelo	michael, top ?	01:36
sethk	xTheGoat121x, I'm thinking about a practical way to check the speed, don't have an answer to that at the moment.	01:37
michael	thanks ^^	01:37
Administrator_	whats about for 512M how much swap size beter to use?	01:37
rabidweezle	if anyone knows how to make it see the rest of the hard drive so I can use the full potential of the 160 gigs WITHOUT a bios upgrade or ide controller card, let me know	01:37
Pelo	michael, menu > system > admin> system monitor first tab	01:37
DIL	'quit	01:37
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Pelo	Administrator_, 512 of RAM , use 1 gig	01:37
matthew__	I'm trying to build some software from source, and it is complaining about a missing SDL.h. Can you tell me what package provides that (or how to find out)?	01:37
michael	which is ram?	01:37
Administrator_	is lighter mean a speeder?	01:38
michael	shows a total of 503/ ised 497 and 6 free	01:38
rabidweezle	or if anyone knows how to hack out their own bios upgrade so it can see the higher capacity hard drives, that could be usefull too	01:38
michael	also says 175 chached	01:38
Pelo	matthew__, open synaptic, search for sdl, you'll probablay get somethjing like libsdl , also install the -dev package that matches	01:38
jrib	matthew__: packages.ubuntu.com or use apt-file	01:38
kelsin	matthew__: libsdl-dev	01:38
jimmygoon	rabidweezle, um, wait, you mean you have an ancient bios that doesn't support LBA	01:39
rabidweezle	it's pretty ancient	01:39
JJtech	lols	01:39
jimmygoon	matthew__, something called apt-file	01:39
rabidweezle	funny part is...	01:39
jimmygoon	matthew__, its used just lke apt-get and it tells you how to find a file	01:39
rabidweezle	it has 8x agp and such	01:39
Pelo	Administrator_, lighter means works on older machine with lower cpu and ram , so it would be faster on those machiens yes, , xubuntu need 500 mh cpu and 64 m ram , ubuntu needs 128 m ram , not sure about the min cpu	01:39
rabidweezle	it's just...	01:39
jimmygoon	matthew__, "apt-file search SDL.h"	01:39
adamonline45	rabidweezle: How big is your /boot?	01:39
jimmygoon	matthew__, it will tell you that you need libsdl1.2-dev	01:40
rabidweezle	just the right size as the readme's all said	01:40
jimmygoon	matthew__, :)	01:40
Administrator_	thx	01:40
rabidweezle	lemme double check the size though adamonline45	01:40
cmp1988	Hey guys, I got a bit of a problem with the flash plugin in Gutsy. It's extremely unstable. Youtube videos and other streaming content tend to stutter often, and once in a while, Firefox (and other browsers based upon it) will crash due to the flash. Any advice? I have a P4 1.8 GHz, 1.5 GB of RAM, and an ATI Radeon 9200 video card, so it's not necessarily processor speed, or RAM, maybe video card? Thanks for help in advance.	01:40
matthew__	cool... installing apt-file right now (so I know how to do this in the future ;)	01:41
kelsin	cmp1988: convince adobe to open source flash so users can fix it, if you're already running the adobe non-free plugin that's as good as it gets	01:41
kelsin	cmp1988: (at least until the gnash plugin gets better)	01:41
rabidweezle	adamonline45, btw, this is the machine in question	01:41
jimmygoon	matthew__, just so you know... installing it is going to take for ever as it builds its index for the first time :P	01:41
cmp1988	kelsin: you have the same problem or similar?	01:41
Pelo	cmp1988, that happens a lot if you have several running videos running /l;oading at once, youcan try removing all the flash from yoru system and installing the very latest from the adobe site, they just have a new one out	01:42
kelsin	cmp1988: I do not, it works pretty well for me, make sure you have direct rendering enabled for your graphics card	01:42
rabidweezle	ok, /boot is 94 megs	01:42
Pelo	g'night folks	01:42
matthew__	jimmygoon: actually, the install was lickety split. but the search yielded nothing. I think I need to run apt-file update first.	01:42
jimmygoon	Has anyone else gotten firefox3b1 running with antialiased fonts.... its looking like openoffice... (all crummy) right now	01:42
jimmygoon	matthew__, possible	01:42
cmp1988	kelsin: direct rendering is enabled, and I don't think it's the version of flash, because I've used both the current stable release and the flash 9 update RC or something like that	01:43
cmp1988	kelsin: oh yea, I only have 1 going at a time	01:43
jimmygoon	matthew__, you can also search through packages for files online: http://packages.ubuntu.com	01:43
JJtech	how to install ubuntu with less RAM?	01:43
ghost	Is running the 'tracker' indexing service useful for anything? what does indexing actually do?	01:43
jimmygoon	ghost, makes it so your files are "indexed" for faster searching	01:43
kelsin	JJtech: you can always use the alternate cd iso to install a text mode system and then install whatever your system can handle	01:43
CyberMad	1st, i want to use 1024x768 screen resolution, ok i found the monitor manual book.. Standard: VESA/60 Resolution: 1024x768 Horizontal Frequency: 48.4kHz Vertical Frequency: 60Hz	01:44
brent0n	hello, i'm having difficulties using a program, and was curious if someone could help me with it. :)	01:44
AriX_	anyone use a mac mini with 7.10 or 7.04?	01:44
CyberMad	what i have to set on HorizZync and VertRefresh ?	01:44
rabidweezle	you know, I just though about something adamonline45, I better check to make sure that the jumper for the 30 gig is not on	01:44
brent0n	i would prefer p2p, if there's someone who wouldn't mind	01:44
kelsin	brent0n: just ask your question/explain your problem	01:44
AriX_	I'm having some annoying video card issue.	01:44
AriX_	*issues	01:44
matthew__	jimmygoon: ohh.. that's really easy...	01:44
rabidweezle	brb	01:44
ghost	jimmygoon, yeah but what does that actually DO. does the indexing service build basically a database of where files are? what actually uses this, just a 'find files' function?	01:44
JJtech	kelsin: i only have the live CD installer... what can i do?	01:44
kelsin	ghost: tracker uses it itself	01:44
adamonline45	rabidweezle: Alright... Trying to find a doc that helped me years ago...	01:44
kbrosnan	jimmygoon: i did not notice any difference in the fonts	01:45
jimmygoon	ghost, largely.	01:45
kelsin	JJtech: if the live cd doesn't work on your system you're outta luck, the live cd does not include the command line installer or the text-mode installer	01:45
matthew__	Next question: what does the [security] designation mean in packages.ubuntu.com?	01:45
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, I've installed custom font packages/patches for "cleartype-like" fonts	01:45
AriX_	no one uses a mac minI? :P	01:45
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, and I find it strange that both firefox and openoffice ignore those preferences	01:45
CyberMad	any help?	01:45
AriX_	meh, thanks ;(	01:45
rangerguy39	when i run ubuntu, all i get is a blank, orange screen	01:45
ghost	kelsin, basically what I am asking is, does it actually do anything useful other than finding missing text documents? or does it help with system internals	01:45
brent0n	ah, well, it's pretty noobish, probably. i'm having trouble running/maybe even installing(it's bad that i don't know if it's installed or not). but this program http://ushare.geexbox.org/ is what i'm trying to use, but i'm not sure exactly if i've got in installed properly, or how to configure it if it is.	01:46
jimmygoon	ghost, no its not system vital	01:46
JJtech	kelsin: so i have to download the alternate installer??? can u pls send me the link??	01:46
kelsin	just for user searching	01:46
kelsin	!download \| JJtech	01:46
ubotu	JJtech: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!	01:46
mikeooo	anyone here run windows apps seemlessly with rdesktop and vmware?	01:46
nickrud	ghost: ideally, it will index the text in a pdf or web page and have it available for quick finding	01:46
mikeooo	wondering how "seemless" it is	01:47
xTheGoat121x	BRB	01:47
mikeooo	the screenshots look good	01:47
MoTec	JJtech: there is a checkbox when you you pick the version you want that says 'download alternate install cd'	01:47
jimmygoon	mikeooo, I'm using virtualbox and its builtin seemless... and its not	01:47
kbrosnan	jimmygoon: in menus or in the page content, page content is controled by the web page and lacking specific font from the web page edit -> preferences -> content -> fonts -> advanced is used	01:47
mikeooo	its not seemless?	01:47
jimmygoon	mikeooo, but hte "homebrew" rtp is pretty good	01:47
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, menus.... etc	01:47
mikeooo	i was looking at rdesktop	01:47
kelsin	mikeooo: vmware is emulation, so speed is going to take a hit whether you use it's screen or rdesktop	01:47
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, interace stuff	01:48
jimmygoon	mikeooo, its pretty decent	01:48
mikeooo	running a q6600 w/ 8gb of ram so processing power shouldn't be a problem	01:48
brent0n	anyone? :P	01:48
mikeooo	it would more be if the network aspect of it was slow	01:48
mikeooo	as far as latency	01:48
ghost	Is it a resource hog? It does not sound very useful to me at this point	01:48
mikeooo	like vmware on a gigabit lan isn't instant	01:48
mikeooo	or rather vnc	01:48
mikeooo	not vmware	01:49
kelsin	ghost: if you're not going to use the searching just disable it	01:49
cmp1988	Another question guys, Ndiswrapper won't start up at boot time yet I've done the "ndiswrapper -m" command	01:49
richee	how do I set the value of date in a enviroment variable?	01:49
kelsin	ghost: you can always turn it on later	01:49
mikeooo	jimmygoon does it work with all the compiz-fusion effects?	01:49
richee	can anyone suggest me something ?	01:49
kbrosnan	jimmygoon: what window manager?	01:49
jimmygoon	mikeooo, no idea	01:49
tohoyn	richee: see command "date"	01:50
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, with and without compiz fusion --- metacity	01:50
kelsin	richee: "VAR=value", to make it available out of the script you have to "export VAR" after or "export VAR=value"	01:50
ghost	yeah I am trying to streamline this instal, sorry If am asking weird questions	01:50
kelsin	richee: "export DATE=`date`"	01:50
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, give me 60 seconds and I'll have a screenshot	01:50
mikeooo	do the menus lag at all?	01:50
cmp1988	ghost: no questions related to Ubuntu are weird questions, unless you're trying to ask something weird ;)	01:50
mikeooo	and does alt tab work?	01:50
ghost	what is your opininn of zsh?	01:51
ghost	can zsh safely replace dash	01:51
BlaenkDenum	broomhead0: good job	01:51
broomhead0	thanks blaenk	01:51
broomhead0	i need some help installing ubuntu onto a mac	01:52
BlaenkDenum	no problem	01:52
kelsin	ghost: dash is meant to just be a posix /bin/sh, zsh is more rightly compared to bash	01:52
Pici	ghost: Er, I wouldnt do that.	01:52
BlaenkDenum	broomhead0: just ask the specific question, remember to say that you're on a mac	01:52
broomhead0	yea ok thanks man	01:52
ghost	so i shouldn't integrate it to replace the default bash terminal	01:53
CyberMad	how to set the HorizSync and VertRefresh on xorg.conf I don't know the range, i think i will use this: 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz	01:53
CyberMad	please help me :)	01:53
kelsin	ghost: replacing bash for your login shell is fine, replacing dash is not	01:53
broomhead0	Can someone help me boot ubuntu onto a mac, I've already burned the ISO onto a disc and made a new partition	01:53
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, http://mickens.us/fonts.png	01:53
BlaenkDenum	CyberMad: do you know the model of your monitor?	01:53
dantheman440	hi	01:53
broomhead0	anyone?	01:54
ghost	dash is the one all of the ubuntu scripts are based on then?	01:54
kelsin	broomhead0: are you seeing an error or anything? Have you tried booting the disc?	01:54
dantheman440	um..im having problems with getting java to work on mozilloa firefox	01:54
kelsin	ghost: dash is posix compliant shell, so yes	01:54
broomhead0	what should I press when I start up, c or shift?	01:54
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, as you can see, its not even quite the same...	01:54
CyberMad	BlaenkDenum yes, GTC Millenia with model GM562	01:54
jimmygoon	:/	01:54
kelsin	ghost: no reason to change it, you can change your login shell to /zsh using chsh all you want	01:54
ghost	posix is the standard for kernel interactive terminals?	01:54
dantheman440	How do i get java to work on firefox?	01:54
BlaenkDenum	CyberMad: google it, look specifically for a page that's selling it, and it should say the frequencies	01:54
SpookyET	How do you configure the "gnome-main-menu"? I want to add more apps to favourites and enable the search bar.	01:55
BlaenkDenum	CyberMad: that's what I did a few years ago, now ubuntu automatically picks it up for me	01:55
Frederick	folks Im having problems setting up my monitor it is a lcd monitor from lg and ubuntu seems to be borking it I got a geforce 8800 gts mobo anyone had similar issues? I also seem unable to use multiple terminals	01:55
jimmygoon	SpookyET, right click on the ubuntu icon and hit "edit menus"	01:55
kbrosnan	jimmygoon: going to reboot to my 7.10 install	01:55
MrStonedOne	what is that command to make a "snapshot" of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later	01:55
kelsin	ghost: posix is a standard for the operating system to say how /bin/sh should act. A lot of distros use bash for /bin/sh, but ubuntu replaced it with dash which is more minimal and JUST contains the posix standard pretty much	01:55
ghost	kelsin, that will basically then launch zsh instead of bash anytime gnome wants to run a terminal	01:55
kelsin	ghost: yes	01:55
ghost	kelsin... ok that makes sence	01:55
jimmygoon	kbrosnan, don't spend too much time on it... its not a big deal... I will post on the forums and see what others think	01:55
CyberMad	BlaenkDenum ok, just a minute	01:55
broomhead0	kelsin: you think you could help me?	01:56
jimmygoon	its definetly not mission criticla or anything	01:56
kelsin	broomhead0: I have no experience with macs	01:56
broomhead0	ok then thanks anyway	01:56
RazzoRz	hey folks	01:56
flughaffen	im having trouble setting up sharing on ubuntu gutsy	01:57
Frederick	and I wonder why in hell ubuntu in recovey mode does not allow me to use multiple screens	01:57
RazzoRz	having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?	01:57
LadyNikon	Frederick: please watch your language	01:57
cabrioleur	Frederick, single user mode? you can use screen...	01:58
sethk	Frederick, that's an odd question. It's recovery mode, the idea is to be as simple as possible and to always boot, even if there are problems associated with the display	01:58
Frederick	sethk: oki but the normal mode does not boot	01:58
kelsin	flughaffen: what type of sharing?	01:58
ramza3	I have firefox 3 beta (installed without apt) and firefox 2.0.0.8. I think I am using the commercial player with FF2 and the free one with FF3. Is there a way to set FF3 to use the commercial flashplugin.	01:59
sethk	Frederick, indeed, but the purpose of recovery mode is to fix the problem. It's not designed to be a reasonable environment for routine things.	01:59
Frederick	sethk: I get a black screen while booting in "normal" mode	01:59
sethk	Frederick, ok, first step, then, is to look at the X log in recovery mode	01:59
flughaffen	kelshin, filesharing between 2 gutsy machines	01:59
Frederick	already done error in locking authority file	02:00
tonyr1988	About half of the time, my USB hard drive that's mounted at /home (formatted ext3), mounts as read-only, and if I try to "mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1", it says it's write-protected. Any ideas?	02:00
Frederick	sethk: ive installed ubuntu like 40 times	02:00
kelsin	flughaffen: as long as ssh is running you can get to them using the sftp method of "Connect to Server" in places	02:00
Frederick	and I got no clues this time I wonder it can be related to a borked support to my lcd monitor	02:00
sethk	Frederick, if you install it twice and still have a problem, the other 38 times are wasted	02:00
sethk	Frederick, it's possible	02:00
flughaffen	kelshin, ssh?	02:00
Frederick	sethk: ive installed 40 times sucessfully	02:00
Ademan	does anyone know of a good resource to get into network programming? I know next to nothing (although i do understand a lot of the low level stuff, ie the sockets apis) I imagine there are plenty of higher level concepts though that a well designed network system would be good to adopt, the "handshake" immediately comes to mind but i imagine there are other high level concepts or patterns worth learning about	02:00
Ademan	i know that's at least midly off topic, sorry	02:01
yoyo	hello all	02:01
sethk	Frederick, Oh, I thought you meant that you keep reinstalling on this machine	02:01
Frederick	but without multiple screens I cant even use a text based browser	02:01
sethk	Ademan, go do #ubuntu-offtopic and I might have a few ideas	02:01
Ademan	already there :-p	02:01
kelsin	Ademan: networking class at your local community college? Even if you don't want to take it, finding out what books they use would be a good start	02:01
Frederick	Ademan: ask in programming c or linux get freacking advanced programming in the unix enviroment and dont flood	02:01
Frederick	advanced nework programming in the unix enviroment I think the autor is stevens	02:02
kev_b	anyone know, is there an up-to-date list of webcams that work (well) in ubuntu?	02:02
Ademan	Frederick: well i just pasted it over into ubuntu-offtopic when i realized i was offtopic here, and thanks for the book suggestion	02:02
Frederick	sethk: so any ideas?	02:02
MrStonedOne	What is the command to make a "snapshot", or a list of the installed packages with apt-get, to be re-installed later with a similar command??	02:02
Frederick	folks anyone here with experience in setting up lcd monitors and nvidia cards in ubuntu?	02:03
Xdange1	guys can a miss configuration of /etc/jhosts file cause the computer to move slow	02:03
sethk	Frederick, configure X so that there is only one resolution, one that you know the monitor can handle.	02:03
sethk	Frederick, if you have another monitor, plug it in and see what happens	02:03
kelsin	MrStonedOne: "dpkg --get-selections" you can pipe that to a file to save it	02:03
linduxed	my icedtea doesnt seem to work, im opening a site with a java game and it doesnt load at all	02:03
linduxed	any ideas?	02:03
Frederick	sethk: I can try it in fact I did it, well lets assume I have no other monitor cause I wont have a second monitor to every emergency on my life	02:04
MrStonedOne	kelsin: and how can i reinstall	02:04
kelsin	linduxed: are you opposed to install the sun-java6-jre?	02:04
Frederick	sethk: Ive installed both nvidia glx and nvidia-kerneçl	02:04
linduxed	kelsin: no its just that iced tea was what got suggested for install	02:04
Xdange1	guys can a miss configuration of /etc/hosts file cause computer to move slow	02:04
yoyo	can somebody help me with PPA pls ? I did a package build on PPA, called the package mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13~ppa2 instead of mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and did add the "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/myppa/ubuntu gutsy main universe multiverse" to my source.list. but apt-get-upgrade still install mplayer - 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu13 and not my PPA version	02:04
Frederick	Xdange1: yes	02:05
kelsin	MrStonedOne: dpkg --set-selections is the first step, after that there is a command to install them, if you google with get and set you'll find it quick	02:05
IpMooIng	question time.. rare	02:05
matthew__	Can you tell me what [security] next to a package name means? (on packages.ubuntu.com)	02:05
Xdange1	Frederick: well that seems to be my case	02:05
Xdange1	Frederick: how do i reset the settings	02:05
IpMooIng	about the root account.. when i change pass its wont work	02:05
linduxed	kelsin: so remove iced, install jre and t should work?	02:05
kelsin	linduxed: I would suggest using the sun-java6-jre package that's listed in the java list instead of ice-tead. It's working well and great for some things but it's not fully compatible with sun's java yet	02:05
matthew__	Or better yet, how I look that up?	02:05
Frederick	Xdange1: you can edit the file	02:05
sethk	yoyo, temporarily disable the repository that has the version you don't want.	02:06
ejt	hello	02:06
sethk	yoyo, then, in synaptic, reload and do the install. Then turn that repository back on.	02:06
linduxed	kelsin: should i remove iced completely?	02:06
MrStonedOne	thanks kelsin	02:06
kelsin	linduxed: up to you, but if you goal is just to use java on a home machine then yes I'd suggest that	02:06
lex_	I appear to be having an issue with dvdrip; when trying to use the program I encounter: The movie has 171092.736 frames, but only 146067 were ripped. This is most likely a problem with your transcode/libdvdread installation. I've checked the installs and even reinstalled them but keep getting this error. Any insight?	02:06
linduxed	kelsin: thx	02:06
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ejt	I have found an issue in the command line expansion in Makefiles... it appears to only occur in Ubuntu (out of Fedora or OS X, which all use the same GNU Make 3.81)	02:07
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tonyr1988	Is there anything important I need to remember about mounting an ext3 external hard drive? 1/2 the time, it works fine. 1/2 the time, it mounts read-only.	02:07
Xdange1	127.0.0.1 localhost	02:07
Xdange1	127.0.0.1 infamous-ego.cm.flowja.com infamous-box.MSHOME	02:07
Xdange1	i dont kno whats wrong	02:07
ejt	I at first blamed bash, but the Fedora bash is older than 7.04, which is older than OS X 10.5, which is older than 7.10	02:08
kelsin	Xdange1: what's running slow?	02:08
hvgotcodes	how do i tell which version of fglrx i have?	02:08
Frederick	fglrx -v?	02:08
yoyo	sethk, it's not a good way. if i do apt-get upgrade later it will reinstall the normal package. i'd like to have upgrades from ubuntu but have my packages overwriting the standart one.	02:08
hvgotcodes	no fglrx is the ati driver	02:08
ejt	so the only consistent thing is Ubuntu, unless bash broke, fixed, and then broke again	02:08
Xdange1	kelsin: like i open a file it will take longer than the usual	02:08
yoyo	sethk, and as i understood PPA have provision for what.	02:08
sethk	yoyo, then try moving the repository with the version you want above the other one.	02:09
carlosss	why the words on amsn its so little that i cant read it ?	02:09
Xdange1	first i thought it was a hardrive issue	02:09
kelsin	Xdange1: open a file in what, just the gnome text editor or something like that?	02:09
yoyo	i tried on the top and at the end.	02:09
jsoftw	ok	02:09
kelsin	Xdange1: is you lo interface up "ifconfig" in a terminal at least lists lo as up	02:09
ejt	figured I'd check here if anyone wants to try a 3 line Makefile...	02:09
buttercups	hvgotcodes, fglrxinfo	02:09
ejt	oh the other weird thing is the expansion works properly on the command line itself...	02:10
sethk	yoyo, I never upgrade. I install what I need. wholesale upgrade is a really bad idea. Also, in synaptic, you can disable any part of the upgrade before doing the actual installs.	02:10
ejt	it seems to only break in Ubuntu, within a Makefile	02:10
slowthy	is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?	02:10
hvgotcodes	is 8.34.8 the most recent?	02:10
RazzoRz	having issues getting my mic working in innotek vbox... anyone know how to fix this issue?	02:10
yoyo	do somebody use Launchpad PPA here and know about package naming for PPA to overwrite standard packages pls ?	02:10
kelsin	ejt: can you post in pastebin a test file with your expansion and the behavior on different systems?	02:10
hvgotcodes	buttercups: is 8.34.8 the latest version	02:11
hvgotcodes	?	02:11
Xdange1	kelsin: yes lo is up	02:11
ejt	sure... one sec	02:11
yoyo	sethk, i need to keep the software up to date. :)	02:11
ghost	hey guys it looks like my system is hanging on 'set the clock' during my bootup. what is the appropreate logfile that shows my boot?	02:11
kazol	Anyone here familiar with inserting page numbers in OpenOffice?	02:11
crdlb	yoyo: #launchpad ?	02:11
ghost	/var/log/boot?	02:11
sethk	yoyo, that is rarely true. You may _want_ to keep it up to date, but it's highly unlikely that you truly need to.	02:11
buttercups	hvgotcodes, 7.11 is	02:11
yoyo	crdlb, launchpad.net	02:12
squidink	kazol: what in particular?	02:12
Xdange1	kelsin: lo is up	02:12
crdlb	yoyo: I mean have you tried #launchpad ?	02:12
slowthy	is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?	02:12
gaminggeek	hello	02:12
hvgotcodes	buttercups: how come doesnt show up for update?	02:12
gaminggeek	can someone remind me how to update my path?	02:12
hvgotcodes	i enabled the restricted drivers	02:12
kazol	squidink: A document in Writer; I also want the numbers to start on the second page.	02:12
yoyo	sethk, believe me i need	02:12
jrib	gaminggeek: why?	02:12
hvgotcodes	i didnt get it manually	02:13
yoyo	crdlb, :) oh sorry, i will	02:13
sethk	yoyo, why?	02:13
kelsin	ejt: at the top of your not working makefile can you set "SHELL = /bin/bash" and also try with "SHELL = /bin/sh"?	02:13
jimmygoon	slowthy, does the zune use libmtp? if so rhythmbox with the "MTP Devices" plugin turned on may work	02:13
jsoftw	I have trouble with suspending my ubuntu box. Basically the machine becomes unresponsive afterwards.	02:13
gaminggeek	because I have installed something manually and its not seeing the new libary it installed	02:13
jsoftw	Which is unacceptable.	02:13
jsoftw	:P	02:13
buttercups	hvgotcodes, video drivers are not updated after a stable release of Ubuntu	02:13
jrib	!who \| gaminggeek	02:13
ubotu	gaminggeek: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	02:13
jrib	gaminggeek: what exactly?	02:13
squidink	kazol: I think you need to create a new section	02:13
gaminggeek	jrib: swfmill	02:13
ejt	kelsin: here's what I was doing: http://pastebin.com/m33204849	02:14
adante	hi	02:14
ejt	I'll try the shell thing you suggest	02:14
yoyo	sethk, cause i develop for a hardware platform and i use up to date softwares sometimes even SVN..	02:14
kelsin	gaminggeek: the system path is defined in /etc/environment, if you just want to set it yourself you can add "export PATH=/usr/local/bin;$PATH" in your .bashrc, obviously replace /usr/local/bin whith what you need	02:14
gaminggeek	jrib: swfmill: error while loading shared libraries: libswft.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	02:14
kazol	squidink: Section?	02:14
adante	i need a package (imagemagick) compiled with a specific option (lossless jpeg) - is there any way to do this via ubuntus package management or do i have to compile it manually?	02:14
sethk	yoyo, that means you need to have newer version of software. It doesn't mean you have to be lazy and just upgrade everything.	02:14
hvgotcodes	buttercups: Im intersted in having compositing goodness using xcompmgr, instead of relying on compiz-fusion. will upgrading that driver make xcompmgr better? compiz-fusion handles shadows/translucency no prob, but xcompmgr does not....	02:15
ejt	kelsin: ahh, yes, it works with SHELL=/bin/bash at the top	02:15
yoyo	sethk: sorry, we do not understand each others.	02:15
macabro22	Hello	02:15
ghost	How do I view my bootlog? and is it possible to see my bootlog timestamped?	02:15
kelsin	ejt: ubuntu uses dash for /bin/sh, it's posix compliant	02:15
jrib	gaminggeek: where is that file?	02:15
macabro22	My mozilla-mplayer won't load any videos. Mplayer alone will. Can someone help	02:15
macabro22	?	02:15
kelsin	ejt: so now you know that technically that syntax isn't posix :) but you can override the shell with SHELL obviously, glad that fix was easy lol	02:16
ejt	kelsin: hmm, so what of the expansion? is {h,cc} not posix compliant?	02:16
gaminggeek	jrib: just updatedbing atm I will tell you when its done	02:16
CommonClone	I am trying to install ubuntu on a computer that has vista on it, and the partition menu doesn't see the hard drive	02:16
CommonClone	any ideas?	02:16
jsoftw	CommonClone: hmm	02:16
ejt	kelsin: (or is it just a bug in dash)	02:16
jsoftw	CommonClone: trouble.	02:16
kelsin	ejt: yeah, if you run "/bin/sh -c 'ls file.{1,2}'" it will also complain	02:16
jsoftw	CommonClone: Im not much of an expert with grub, sorry	02:16
kelsin	ejt: I'm not 100% but my best guess is that {} isn't in posix	02:16
kelsin	ejt: a lot of normal bash stuff isn't	02:17
ejt	kelsin: wow, alrighty then, that's a new one for me, thanks!	02:17
CommonClone	jsoftw: Im in the gui partitioner	02:17
jsoftw	Oh right	02:17
jsoftw	CommonClone: what does it say the partitions are?	02:17
buttercups	hvgotcodes, the new drivers are still buggy and new, although they do support compiz without xgl	02:17
CommonClone	jsoftw: it doesnt see any	02:18
kelsin	CommonClone: what type of hard drive? just a normla ide of SATA internal?	02:18
CommonClone	jsoftw: WD normal ide	02:18
hvgotcodes	buttercups: im wondering if it will help non-compiz based compositing	02:18
CyberMad	how to lock ubuntu panel so user can not delete it	02:19
CommonClone	sorry, that was meant for you kelsin	02:19
jsoftw	CommonClone: hmmm...	02:19
jsoftw	CommonClone: strange.	02:19
CommonClone	how do I install from cmd line?	02:21
jrib	!apt > CommonClone (read the private message from ubotu)	02:21
buttercups	hvgotcodes, probably not	02:21
darwub	hey guys, I am getting very poor performance from mplayer, it gets delayed on HD content and the aspect ratio is wrong, any idea? also my machine is a dual xeon 2.4ghz with 2gb ram, I had gentoo installed and everything ran very very smoothly, any ideas? x11 gives me the right aspect but xv, gl2 and others do not	02:21
jrib	CyberMad: look into pessulus and sabayon though I am not sure. library.gnome.org may help too	02:22
hvgotcodes	buttercups: if i get a new video card will any nvidia or intel graphics card be ok for that?	02:22
lex_	darwub: you using it from the cmd line?	02:22
gaminggeek	jrib: /usr/local/lib/libswft.so.0	02:23
jrib	gaminggeek: hmm weird, does runnig 'ldconfig' help?	02:23
buttercups	hvgotcodes, don't know never had a nvidia, support for ati is horrible, i hear good things about nvidia	02:23
hvgotcodes	ok thanx	02:24
gaminggeek	jrib: yes thank you that was the command I was looking for :)	02:25
CommonClone	jrib: i meant how do I install ubuntu from command line?	02:25
jrib	CommonClone: a text install? Use the alternate cd	02:26
Flannel	CommonClone: You need the alternate CD	02:26
Casey	How do I remove GRUB? I just installed Windows OEM version and I get GRUB with error 17	02:26
smooker4	Hi all	02:26
smooker4	how do i save files to SDA6 if it doesnt have mount point.. ?	02:26
jrib	smooker4: mount it	02:26
ubuntu_	hi	02:27
smooker4	how do i mount it ?	02:27
CommonClone	I can't just switch to cmd line mode and install?	02:27
smooker4	if i click right i seee only unmount	02:27
jrib	CommonClone: no	02:27
jrib	smooker4: then it is probably mounted	02:27
smooker4	but i cant save files there	02:28
ghost	this is unrelated but does anyone know what the Xbox 360 hacker irc channel is?	02:28
jrib	smooker4: why? what happens when you try?	02:28
smooker4	what is the path ? i am trying to set KTorrent	02:28
toby_	this is un related too but: What impact may Kazza have if running on a companies PC?	02:28
jrib	smooker4: type 'mount'	02:28
slowthy	is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?	02:28
smooker4	where ?	02:28
jrib	!offtopic \| toby_	02:28
ubotu	toby_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	02:29
jrib	smooker4: in a terminal	02:29
toby_	Thanks sorry	02:29
skyfalcon866	!ffmpeg	02:29
CommonClone	jrib: can I format my hd with vista installed on it from the cmd line on the live cd?	02:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ffmpeg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:29
smooker4	oic /dev/sda6	02:29
ghost	toby i will answer that for you	02:29
ghost	Don't do it	02:29
jrib	smooker4: that's not the mount point, that's the device name	02:29
smooker4	aw	02:30
ghost	your IT department won't like it.	02:30
ghost	And if found you doing that on MY network, i would have you fired	02:30
slowthy	atleast use a non-crap program	02:30
yaro	I will ask my support question as soon as I am sure I need to ask it here.	02:30
skyfalcon866	!mencoder	02:30
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mencoder - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:30
smooker4	\dev/sda6 on /media/sda6 type ext3 (rw)	02:30
jrib	CommonClone: what does "from the cmd line" mean? Yes, you can format it on the live cd, and yes there is a command line on the live system	02:30
LjL	yaro: uhm... ok	02:30
jrib	smooker4: yes, /media/sda6 is the mount point	02:30
yaro	Okay. I got it.	02:31
hellonull	hey i just booted into ubuntu for the first time a week or so and i have 73 updates to install... but when i say "install now" 39 of the packages appear under "NOT AUTHENTICATED"... amongst these are perl, php5, and firefox. what does this mean?	02:31
CommonClone	jrib: it can't see my HD in the gui partitioner, I wanted to try it from the cmd line, but I tried fdisk /dev/hda and it tells me unable to open, I think vista did something dumb to the HD and now I can't see it	02:32
slowthy	atleast use a non-crap program	02:32
slowthy	wait	02:32
ghost	hellonull, your authentication key is outdated	02:32
slowthy	forget that	02:32
ghost	I usually just ignore it	02:32
scguy318	hellonull: that means for some reason the GPG key for your repos seem to be outdated or missing	02:32
LjL	!gpgerr > hellonull (hellonull, see the private message from Ubotu)	02:32
yaro	As far as I can tell, my problem is somewhat common, but a clear solution, as far as I can tell, has not been determined. My friend recommend I come here and ask. So I am.	02:32
slowthy	is there any software that I can use to transfer music on to my zune in ubuntu?	02:32
ghost	hellonull: if you are only downloading from the offical repos you shouldn't have any problem	02:32
ghost	if you mix repositories... becareful	02:33
RazzoRz	can someone help me with a mic issue with 7.10???	02:33
jrib	CommonClone: did you use sudo?	02:33
Flannel	slowthy: Does your zune show up like a USB harddrive? or what?	02:33
scguy318	slowthy: not really, unless you count a VM product for running XP	02:33
scguy318	slowthy: I think Zunes don't show at all, but then I don't own one	02:33
slowthy	they dont	02:33
CommonClone	jrib: I'm dumb...let me try	02:33
CaptainBoots	I just updated to the latest version of Ubuntu and I'm now getting an error message saying that the Gnome Settings Daemon failed to load, that it was started too many times??? Has anyone come across this issue and know of a fix?	02:33
kelsin	CaptainBoots: you should check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors	02:33
yaro	Anyway, my problem is this: My sound on Flash has stopped working, and every solution I found on the forums didn't work.	02:34
CaptainBoots	Thanks Kelsin let me dive in there real quick	02:34
RazzoRz	How does one get there mic working in gusty?	02:35
scguy318	slowthy: there's no current solution for syncing a Zune with a Linux machine, you'll have to use XP somehow, either virtualized or actual	02:35
scguy318	slowthy: and it's a bit understandable, since guess who's selling the Zune? :P	02:35
CommonClone	jrib: in /dev, there is no hd*, so I guess linux isn't detecting it, any ideas?	02:35
yaro	I have one, jrib/.	02:35
jrib	CommonClone: sda?	02:36
hellonull	ghost: would avant-window-navigator repos (tuxfamily.org) be a potential source of this problem?	02:36
yaro	Yis. That was what I was going to say.	02:36
jrib	yaro: one what?	02:36
scguy318	CommonClone: Ubuntu assigns all disks an sd* name	02:36
CommonClone	jrib: NOPE	02:36
yaro	Look for an sda in /dev/	02:36
CommonClone	opps sorry	02:36
jrib	CommonClone: what does 'sudo fdisk -l' do?	02:36
Flannel	slowthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol Check down at the bottom for the linux libraries/progrmas	02:36
CommonClone	jrib: nothing	02:37
Frederick	folks I still unable to set up my xserver up with my geforce 8800	02:37
adante	hi	02:37
adante	if i apt-get source something where does it go?	02:37
jrib	adante: current working directory	02:37
lex_	Frederick: you ahve envy installed?	02:37
Frederick	lex_: what?	02:38
nerdsquad3210	when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ?	02:38
tatttors	how do I give my username permission to write to /var/www?	02:38
yaro	sudo	02:38
regeya	meh. dynamic swapping is overrated.	02:38
tatttors	sudo what	02:38
smooker4	but when i want to save torrents to /media/sda6 the programs azureus and KTorrent fail cant create directory for the torrent	02:38
Frederick	smooker4: check chmod	02:38
lex_	Frederick: to get the latest driver ect setup for my 8800, i downloaded an instller called Envy to do the leg work	02:38
yaro	Depends on what exactly you are writing.	02:38
smooker4	how ?	02:39
jrib	!permissions > tatttors (read the private message from ubotu)	02:39
scguy318	tatttors: add your username to the group owner for /var/www, change ownership/group for /var/www, etc.	02:39
Frederick	lex_: oki I wiill check it now	02:39
tatttors	I want to create and save files into the directory	02:39
Frederick	but I got no xserver can I get it on apt?	02:39
scguy318	tatttors: and possibly check actual permissions	02:39
CaptainBoots	Kelsin, I'm not seeing anything that's teliing me anything about Gnome-settings daemon in the xsession-errors file	02:39
tatttors	scguy: how	02:39
Frederick	lwhat is leg work?	02:39
yaro	Usually I just use sudo to elevate myself to root to write to those. Rarely do I do this unless I'm fixing problems.	02:39
scguy318	tatttors: sudo chmod -R user:group /var/www, and sudo usermod something	02:40
scguy318	tatttors: the PM sent by ubotu might be of interest	02:40
tatttors	k	02:40
scguy318	Frederick: if you're talking about Ubuntu Server install the ubuntu-desktop package	02:40
tatttors	err	02:40
tatttors	thats just file directorys	02:40
tatttors	I need file permissions	02:40
SpookyET	Should gnome main menu favorites list the most used apps?	02:40
Frederick	scguy318: man I got a desktop xserver is fucked up and gives me no decent error log	02:40
jrib	tatttors: ubotu's link answers your question	02:40
SpookyET	Why doesn't the list get updated?	02:41
LjL	!language \| Frederick	02:41
ubotu	Frederick: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	02:41
scguy318	Frederick: /var/log/Xorg.0.log?	02:41
RazzoRz	can does the MIC option on gusty work??	02:41
Frederick	and it didnt boot on the first install it seems to halt on a black screen	02:41
kelsin	CaptainBoots: if you try running it in a term does anything happen?	02:41
scguy318	Frederick: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?	02:41
Frederick	yep	02:41
tatttors	no it doesn't...	02:41
scguy318	Frederick: and what's the current issue?	02:41
tatttors	it just explains filesystems but not permissions	02:41
nerdsquad3210	! when will linux come up with dynamic swaping ? why can linux use the free space on the root partition dynamicaly ?	02:41
Frederick	I got an lcd monit might be part of the problem	02:41
Frederick	scguy318: x does not boot	02:41
CaptainBoots	Kelsin, If I try running what in term? The Gnome Settings daemon?	02:42
Frederick	says the user has no right halts in the case of root	02:42
scguy318	Frederick: well yeah but what does the log say?	02:42
kelsin	CaptainBoots: yes	02:42
kelsin	CaptainBoots: "gnome-settings-daemon"	02:42
Frederick	scguy318: I will check again give me a sec	02:42
LjL	nerdsquad3210, a swap file can be used, not sure if dynamic is supported. but that has its own set of issues... for starters, if you use a file (especially a growing/shrinking one), fragmentation may arise. also, you don't have any control where on the disk the file is located generally speaking	02:42
Frederick	I need to get off here cause I dont have multiple screens	02:42
Frederick	dont aske me why	02:42
jrib	tatttors: it links you to it	02:42
scguy318	tatttors: that link ubotu PMed you links to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions	02:42
Frederick	alt fxx does not changes the screen	02:42
regeya	nerdsquad3210: from my own experience, if you've filled swap space to capacity, there's a problem aside from running out of swap. having the oom killer kick in is a huge wake-up call :->	02:43
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/550	02:43
CaptainBoots	Kelsin, this is what's displayed:	02:43
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: first hit in google, might not be what you want but sounds like it	02:43
CaptainBoots	[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal	02:43
BSG75	which one am I suppose to install azureus or azureus-gcj please?	02:43
RazzoRz	I am sorry is this a TUFF question???	02:43
jrib	!please > RazzoRz (read the private message from ubotu)	02:44
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: http://cvs.linux.hr/swapd/ there is the second google hit, also looks interesting	02:44
jsoftw	its UBER TUFF	02:44
BSG75	okay let me rephrase .. which one will NOT suck my system dry :)	02:44
scguy318	BSG75: azureus probably, unless you want to use GCJ, and I hear Azureus on GCJ has issues	02:44
scguy318	BSG75: they both will, kinda :P	02:44
hockeyfan5000	BSG75: Azurues but I would recommend trying Deluge	02:44
nerdsquad3210	i meant fot you to included it i dont understand anything about linux	02:44
BSG75	thanki :) ..	02:44
scguy318	BSG75: Azureus, since it runs on JVM, does have some pretty high memory consumption	02:44
BSG75	much appreciated	02:44
nerdsquad3210	i just go with whats out of the box	02:44
RazzoRz	Wow that was a big help	02:45
Casey	How do I remove GRUB?	02:45
RazzoRz	How UBER tuff is is there ??	02:45
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: well since dynamic swap was a pretty advanced and unneeded feature, probably not for a while	02:45
scguy318	RazzoRz: question?	02:45
scguy318	Casey: install a different boot loader	02:45
RazzoRz	My mic on gusty	02:45
scguy318	RazzoRz: what about it?	02:45
yaro	Is it considered good etiquette to ask a question a second time?	02:45
RazzoRz	it just dont work	02:45
scguy318	yaro: its fine if you don't spam	02:45
scguy318	RazzzoRz: why not?	02:45
RazzoRz	sound works fine	02:45
RazzoRz	just notmy mic	02:45
Casey	scguy318: I have Win98 Dell OEM version installed and I get GRUB error 17 so I booted into a livecd. What to do?	02:46
scguy318	RazzzoRz: have you checked mixer settings?	02:46
RazzoRz	yes	02:46
CaptainBoots	Kelsin: [1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the application[1196822554,000,xklavier.c:xkl_engine_start_listen/] The backend does not require manual layout management - but it is provided by the applicationCould not initialize GStreamer: Error re-scanning registry , child terminated by signal	02:46
RazzoRz	its no muted	02:46
yaro	I am having trouble getting my Flash Plugin to play sound. It used to, but now it doesn't anymore. It's been broken since at least this morning.	02:46
LjL	yaro just don't repeat it overly often, and be patient for answers, but since this channel scrolls fast, there's nothing wrong with restating the question once in a while	02:46
Robotchicken1886	hey im kind of a linux/ubuntu noob, how would i make it so cairo-clock is always open and starts on computer start up	02:46
nerdsquad3210	i bet theres some way for a program to use a specific HD location	02:47
cabrioleur	Casey, if you want just Win98, boot with prompt and type fdisk /mbr	02:47
RazzoRz	sorry is there a setting that i am missing?.. what should it be set at	02:47
smooker4	after i changed priviledgies i stil cant save torrents or make new dirs without sudo :(	02:47
Casey	cabrioleur: how?	02:47
kelsin	CaptainBoots: I would try backing up your gconf folder ("mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-bak") and see if you still have the problem	02:47
scguy318	RazzoRz: what audio card is it? I'm no ALSA expert unfortunately	02:47
scguy318	Robotchicken1886: immediate thought would be System -> Prefs -> session	02:47
smooker4	i need to have write read acess to /dev/sda6	02:47
jrib	smooker4: tell us what you did and what you are trying to do	02:47
RazzoRz	thats a tuff one i not sure if i know!!	02:47
lex_	Robotchicken1886: add the command to run it to the System -> Preferences -> Sessions	02:47
CaptainBoots	Okay stand by	02:47
jrib	smooker4: what filesystem?	02:47
smooker4	trying to save torrents on /dev/sda6	02:47
RazzoRz	tell me how to find out	02:47
smooker4	ExT3	02:48
nerdsquad3210	hes trying to make file sharers look bad	02:48
jrib	smooker4: no, you want to save to /media/sda6	02:48
cabrioleur	when you put boot from cd it will give you choices. one of them is to boot to command prompt (or something like). use win 98 cd	02:48
Robotchicken1886	wow im a retard thanks	02:48
scguy318	RazzoRz: should say in the mixer?	02:48
smooker4	yesx	02:48
ubuntu__	how do I mount my hard drive from the live cd?	02:48
jrib	!who \| smooker4	02:48
ubotu	smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	02:48
nerdsquad3210	smooker4: is trying to make file sharers look bad	02:48
smooker4	i cant save to /media/sda6	02:48
jrib	smooker4: what is the output of: ls -ld /media/sda6	02:48
RazzoRz	Scguy318: yes HDA asla mixer	02:48
RazzoRz	Alsa**	02:48
RazzoRz	but i have two options	02:49
cabrioleur	ubuntu__, find an empty directory, and mount /dev/device /dir (replace device with the one you want to mount)	02:49
smooker4	drwxr-xr-x 4 smooker4 root 4096 2007-12-05 04:34 /media/sda6	02:49
sethk	smooker4, that's a device pseudo file	02:49
sethk	smooker4, no, sorry	02:49
scguy318	!alsa > RazzoRz (see PM from ubotu)	02:49
CaptainBoots	Oaky I think I'm gonna play with this some more . Thanky ou Kelsin	02:49
sethk	smooker4, I thought you said /dev/sda, not /media	02:49
scguy318	RazzoRz: I think there's some known covered issues with Intel HDA thats mentioned in the Ubuntu Wiki	02:50
smooker4	i was wrong i meant /media	02:50
RazzoRz	that or sigmatel stac9200 ( oss mixer	02:50
jrib	smooker4: then you can write to it. Does 'touch /media/sda6/foobar' work?	02:50
ubuntu__	cabrioleur: when I do that it says I must specify a filesystem	02:50
ubuntu__	type*	02:50
sethk	smooker4, ah, ok, I thought I saw that. Do "mount" (no arguments), make sure it isn't mounted read only. Try a copy with sudo.	02:50
cabrioleur	ubuntu__, what file system you are trying to mount?	02:50
nerdsquad3210	how do ubuntu staff feels about having MINT ripping your distro ?	02:50
LjL	!ot \| nerdsquad3210	02:51
ubotu	nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!	02:51
ubuntu__	cabrioleur: idk, just trying to mount my hard drive	02:51
Flannel	nerdsquad3210: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.	02:51
nerdsquad3210	:)	02:51
ubuntu__	cabrioleur: or floppy drive, but that's not listed in fstab and idk how to add it	02:51
smooker4	i need to save my files there :( but i cant i want to be able to create simply files and folders as i do on my desktop, withour have to add any password, otherwise its impossible for the torrent clients.	02:51
scguy318	RazzoRz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller may be of interest	02:51
jrib	smooker4: did touch work?	02:52
RazzoRz	ty	02:52
scguy318	smooker4: tweak your fstab	02:52
smooker4	nothing as output..	02:52
cabrioleur	try "mount -t msdos /dev/device /dir"	02:52
jrib	smooker4: is there now a "foobar" file in sda6?	02:52
sethk	smooker4, try the copy with sudo. if that works, we know we have to change permissions.	02:52
smooker4	yes	02:52
smooker4	there is a file foobar	02:52
misc--	hi, if I have a 2x100gb and 1x50gb hard disk, what's the maximum space I'd get with a raid 5? I guess it would be 150gb?	02:52
jrib	smooker4: then you can write fine	02:52
Fezzler	Any iMovie users?	02:52
RazzoRz	Too bad it don't show my 9200 as a optio	02:53
RazzoRz	option**	02:53
cabrioleur	if you want to add to fstab, something like "/dev/device /dir msdos defaults,users 0 0" should be enough	02:53
ubuntu__	cabrioleur: didn't work :/	02:53
nerdsquad3210	smooker4: try sudo /.	02:53
cafuego	Fezzler: on #macintosh perhaps	02:53
scguy318	RazzoRz: look at it again :)	02:53
RazzoRz	k	02:53
smooker4	i cant but torrent client cant write	02:53
jrib	nerdsquad3210: what is that supposed to do?	02:54
cabrioleur	ubuntu__, what device are you using?	02:54
nerdsquad3210	make all hes troubles go away ?	02:54
jrib	smooker4: are you writing to sda6 or a subdirectory?	02:54
smooker4	Azureus said "error: failed to create parent directory 'media/sda6/downloads/game...	02:54
nerdsquad3210	or was it sudo ./ ?	02:54
scguy318	jrib: nerdsquad3210's command does absolutely nothing but cause a command not found error	02:54
ubuntu__	cabrioleur: fd0 is my floppy, hda is my hard drive	02:54
jrib	nerdsquad3210: please try to be helpful	02:54
smooker4	writing at /mdeia/sda6/downloads/game..	02:54
jrib	smooker4: that is the full error?	02:55
jrib	smooker4: you need to copy and paste errors, not retype them	02:55
cabrioleur	ubuntu__, try "sudo modprobe msdos" before you mount.	02:55
cafuego	smooker4: Check that your user account has write permission AND that sda6 isn't in fact full.	02:55
smooker4	Error: Failed to create parent directory '/media/sda6/downloads/Unreal.Tournament.3-AVENGEDd' (allocateFiles:/avd-ut3.iso)	02:56
Tmang	Anyone available to privately converse on the philosophy of Linux? Personal assessment I suppose...	02:56
smooker4	thats the full error	02:56
RazzoRz	scguy318: ok i see the /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200 ( now what? )	02:56
ghost	Does anyone know of a app or driver to give reiserfs support to xp and vista?	02:56
scguy318	RazzoRz: read the suggestions	02:56
jrib	smooker4: cafuego makes a good point, does 'df -h' say sda6 is full?	02:56
scguy318	ghost: theres a read-only one I think, dunno name or link	02:56
cabrioleur	smooker4, do you ave the writing permission (I feel bed to support piracy)?	02:56
smooker4	i reformated my pc before 3 days its not full	02:56
jrib	smooker4: he has write permissions to sda6	02:57
cafuego	ghost: It's highly unlikely such a thing exists.	02:57
dark_ninja	ghost: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/accessing-reiserfs-from-windows-xp-380966/	02:57
Dankchild	hey i just created a new partition, if i install windows to it, will it interfere with GRUB?	02:57
nerdsquad3210	isnt sda an external drive ?	02:57
cafuego	smooker4: Can you check first and THEN say it's not full?	02:57
scguy318	Dankchild: yes, see !grub	02:57
ghost	thanks dark	02:57
RazzoRz	Scguy318: wow sorry i must be blind...	02:57
ghost	thanks dark_ninja	02:57
vanberge	anybody willing to offer up their opinion on the best/easiest/most compatible wlan adapter for a laptop? I was thinking linksys WPC54G :-) thanks in advance	02:57
djtigerwolf	what do i need to know on making a linux operating systwm to make it?	02:57
RazzoRz	i dont see the Suggestions	02:57
dark_ninja	np	02:57
smooker4	i checked	02:57
cabrioleur	Dankchild, if grub is in mbr. It will not if grub is in the first partition :-)	02:57
smooker4	its not full	02:57
nerdsquad3210	isnt sda an external drive ?	02:57
jrib	!who \| smooker4	02:57
ubotu	smooker4: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)	02:57
scguy318	RazzoRz: bottom of page?	02:58
cafuego	vanberge: An atheros based one would probably be best.	02:58
yaro	nerdsquad3210: No, sda isn't always external.	02:58
blah569	I've used Ubuntu countless of times, and I really like it, but most of the stuff I do is Windows-related. I think that it would be a hassle to have to find alternatives/use WINE to run most of my Windows-only applications. Can anyone give me some convincing reasons/sites to look at to actually convince me to switch to Ubuntu? I've read all the way through http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net.	02:58
smooker4	dev/sda6 49G 180M 46G 1% /media/sda6	02:58
scguy318	RazzoRz: theres like 6 workarounds and the thing at the bottom of the page might be relevant	02:58
RazzoRz	Yep i am blind	02:58
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: no, it's one that uses the scsi subsystem, DATA drives count	02:58
cafuego	vanberge: Note that linksys and other manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without changing model (or revision) numbers.	02:58
scguy318	blah569: what do you do?	02:58
jrib	smooker4: ok, ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'	02:58
nerdsquad3210	jrib: isnt sda supossed to be an external drive ?	02:58
cafuego	smooker4: Is sda6 an ntfs disk?	02:58
Dankchild	cabrioleur: yeah, its on the second partition..	02:58
cabrioleur	nerdsquad3210, not enymore :-)	02:58
kelsin	blah569: if you have windows only apps that you can't live without linux might not be for you	02:58
jrib	nerdsquad3210: not necessarily	02:58
Tmang	Anyone willing to give some time to talk to a newb at Linux?	02:58
smooker4	EXT3!	02:58
Dankchild	!grub	02:58
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:58
vanberge	cafuego, an atherios one? i thought those were 'hard to use' or hard to get working?	02:59
scguy318	Tmang: if you've got a question, you may ask it here, if OT talk you can head on over to #ubuntu-offtopic or PM me	02:59
cafuego	smooker4: Can you create files in the directory in question when on the commandline?	02:59
blah569	I want to use Linux thoug.	02:59
blah569	though*	02:59
scguy318	blah569: what do you do?	02:59
cafuego	vanberge: Not really.	02:59
jrib	cafuego: yes, he has	02:59
scguy318	blah569: on Windows	02:59
smooker4	yes i created one	02:59
jrib	to sda6 anyway	02:59
blah569	I mainly do PHP, C++, etc, but I also do Flash.	02:59
cabrioleur	Dankchild, if grub is on the second partition then it will not. However, if you did not modify anything from ubuntu install it's in mbr and it will destroy it :-)	02:59
* cafuego shuts up		02:59
michael	whats the command for installing ndiswrapper	02:59
smooker4	but with browser or torrent i cant	02:59
nerdsquad3210	smooker you need to set uid 666	02:59
vanberge	cafuego, i'm looking for "plug it in, use it with WPA2, and dont have to mess with ndiswrapper"	02:59
blah569	Also, .NET.	02:59
blah569	And Photoshop CS3.	03:00
scguy318	michael: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto	03:00
cabrioleur	michael "apt-get install ndiswrapper"	03:00
nerdsquad3210	or was it 777 ?	03:00
michael	ty ty	03:00
cafuego	vanberge: Yes, atheros. The nice intel ones don't come as external cards.	03:00
scguy318	blah569: for programming there are some IDEs of interest on Linux, Flash probably have to run on Wine, if that works	03:00
cafuego	vanberge: Though I don't know if they do WPA2/.	03:00
blah569	Flash 8 works on WINE, as I've heard, but Flash CS3 doesn't, I think.	03:00
scguy318	blah569: .NET devel mebbe Mono/MonoDevelop, CS3 ehhh good luck with that, GIMP may or may not be for you	03:00
kelsin	blah569: well code editing is great on linux, there are equivalent (maybe not equal to, but close) versions of everything else except flash	03:00
blah569	I prefer Photoshop over Gimp.	03:01
vanberge	cafuego, do you use wlan ?	03:01
blah569	"The Gimp"	03:01
scguy318	smooker4: what's your fstab?	03:01
blah569	I mainly do programming.	03:01
smooker4	what means fstab ?	03:01
cafuego	vanberge: yup	03:01
vanberge	cafuego, do you use WPA2 ? :-)	03:01
lwizard1	anyone here use a kworld atsc110 tv card in ubuntu?	03:01
scguy318	smooker4: /etc/fstab?	03:01
scguy318	smooker4: you are mounting your NTFS part with NTFS-3G and proper fstab entry right?	03:01
cafuego	vanberge: WPA1-PEAP afaik	03:01
blah569	I'd partion my hard drive and keep Windows, but I can't see a reason to actually install Ubuntu.	03:01
nerdsquad3210	fstab is the dir were the system looks for mounting points	03:02
kelsin	blah569: I suggest dual booting then, it sounds like you are very attached to the couple of windows-only uses	03:02
jrib	how about one person help smooker4, I give up	03:02
smooker4	my partition is ext3	03:02
vanberge	cafuego - that would be fine with me... do you have an atheros card?	03:02
kelsin	blah569: well until you try it and realize the power, esp when coding, you probably never will	03:02
sethk	blah569, if the performance off the cd is adequate for you, then there is no need.	03:02
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: fstab isn't a directory, it's a file	03:02
nerdsquad3210	can i help smooker4 ?	03:02
vanberge	cafuego, right now i can only get my card to connect WEP by using ndiswrapper	03:02
nerdsquad3210	pls pls pls	03:02
cafuego	vanberge: Atheros, Intel and broadcom. They all work just fine.	03:02
peacepipej1	triple booting. xp, buntu and studio. Is there a recommenced spot for /swap for best results? tween buntu and studio fr example or does it not matter	03:02
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: if you have relevant info, go for it	03:03
smooker4	help then y ure asking :(	03:03
kelsin	peacepipej1: where swap is doesn't matter at all, if you have one partition they can both use it fine	03:03
nerdsquad3210	how very relevant	03:03
jc_denton	helo!	03:03
scguy318	peacepipej1: don't sweat too much over swap, if you need to be using swap adding RAM is probably a good idea :)	03:03
wease\|	anybody miss me>	03:03
wease\|	hehe	03:03
nerdsquad3210	no	03:03
scguy318	jc_denton: hello	03:03
peacepipej1	kelsin: k,thx	03:03
blah569	I may just buy another computer and install Ubuntu on that, and use that computer as my "test my software for Ubuntu" computer.	03:04
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norman	have anyone any luck with gusty network printing	03:04
nerdsquad3210	blah569: just install 2 ubuntus on the same computer	03:04
cabrioleur	norman, sure. avahi + samba	03:05
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: why two?	03:05
smookerPC1	so.. i guess ill have to move all torrents from my desktop to sda6, not just save them there.	03:05
cafuego	blah569: Ubuntu installs and runs just fine in vmware	03:05
cwollman	does any one know of a program to run in the cammand line that is a podcast download utility	03:05
sethk	norman, sure	03:05
Tmang	I know your a busy fellow scguy318 but I Pm'd you when your available	03:05
blah569	I have emulated Ubuntu in vBox, but it crashes on my Vista, but it ran fine on my XP, which this laptop doesn't have anymore :(.	03:05
scguy318	!register > Tmang (see PM from ubotu)	03:05
nerdsquad3210	why not qemu ?	03:05
blah569	I never understood qemu	03:06
CommonClone	gparted and the installer do not detect my IDE HD, can someone help please?	03:06
norman	i have 2 ubuntu machine one desktop one laptop ,did not think i need samba	03:06
scguy318	blah569, nerdsquad3210: QEMU is pretty darn slow without the acceleration module or w/e its called	03:06
nerdsquad3210	vmware isnt open source	03:06
cafuego	How well does qemu run under windows?	03:06
jc_denton	can someone help me? i like to know how to check parameters of my parallelport (i got a x1541 cable connected to a 1541 c64 floppy drive)	03:06
dark_ninja	norman, you don't, you can just configure cups to share	03:06
djtigerwolf	what do i need to know about making an os to make it?	03:06
cabrioleur	CommonClone, did you try to look for it in the menu?	03:06
dark_ninja	there a gui for that in gutsy, btw	03:06
scguy318	cafuego: not very well when I was testing a ReactOS image	03:07
cafuego	nerdsquad3210: The bios in your computer is also not open source. But you're still using it.	03:07
sethk	jc_denton, you can find info about the hardware in the /sys directory	03:07
CommonClone	cabrioleur: which menu?	03:07
nerdsquad3210	so is the hardware	03:07
scguy318	cafuego: I tried fiddling with acceleration service driver or w/e it's called, but I wasn't particularly versed in the knowledge	03:07
jc_denton	k i look there	03:07
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: exactly	03:07
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cabrioleur	CommonClone, I think in top right corner there was a disk chooser, a simple pool-out menu.	03:08
nerdsquad3210	thats why hardware and software are verydifrent	03:08
norman	dark tried using the gui no luck can you point me to a doc	03:08
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cafuego	nerdsquad3210: I'm a firm believer in the right-tool-for-the-job philosophy. it makes so much easier.	03:09
cabrioleur	norman, samba will give you more control and compatibility, so I recommend.	03:09
blah569	Bah, I just wis I had some convinceing reasons to actually use Ubuntu.	03:09
CommonClone	cabrioleur: in the installer?	03:09
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nerdsquad3210	cafuego: what made you comr from debian to ubuntu ?	03:09
dark_ninja	norman, if you're in the mood for editing your cups config, here: http://occy.net/printing	03:09
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cabrioleur	CommonClone, I don't know much about gui's. I did it manually. It took ab. 15 min.	03:10
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cabrioleur	CommonClone, sorry, yes	03:10
CommonClone	cabrioleur: how do I do it manually	03:10
dark_ninja	this might also help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882	03:10
cafuego	nerdsquad3210: Less PITA to get a decent desktop up and running.	03:10
T70K5	I have a question. A virus that is written for windows, will it effect linux?	03:10
scguy318	T70K5: no	03:10
cabrioleur	CommonClone, manually what. edit partition? open terminal and type parted.	03:10
T70K5	thx scguy318	03:11
cabrioleur	CommonClone, or sudo parted.	03:11
CommonClone	cabrioleur: ok	03:11
bazhang_	T70K5: no	03:11
nerdsquad3210	some virus are system independent	03:11
T70K5	what do you mean by that?	03:11
nerdsquad3210	thaey run both on windows and linux	03:11
cabrioleur	T70K5, if you run it in wine, in some circumstances, there is a chance for some...	03:11
PurpZeY	Howdy	03:11
nerdsquad3210	and java for that mater	03:12
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: Java is a poor platform for malware, slow, and what's there to exploit?	03:12
T70K5	oh ok	03:12
kiyoshi_wolf	can someone tell me if there is a way to put media controls on the taskbar? like rewind skip and stuff?	03:12
nerdsquad3210	scguy318: knolege is power hid it well ;D	03:12
kiyoshi_wolf	like wmp does when minimized	03:12
jc_denton	0378-037a : parport0 guess i found it?	03:12
CommonClone	cabrioleur: I'm on the live cd, I dont think it will let me	03:13
blah569	Does anyone know of another site besides http://www.whylinuxisbetter.com that has convincing reasons to use Ubuntu?	03:13
dark_ninja	t70k5, there are root kits designed specifically for linux, but those are extremely rare, and there has never been a "real" propagating virus that has effectively exploited a GNU/Linux system	03:13
blah569	Meh, I guess I can do some Googling.	03:13
bazhang_	kiyoshi_wolf: yes it is possible	03:13
MACscr1077	Anyone know if its possible to dedicated a cpu to a virtual machine?	03:13
cabrioleur	CommonClone, pull-out the menu Administration -> partitioning	03:13
evan__	hello?	03:13
kelsin	blah569: just use it, it's a better way of using a computer, you control it, it's free, it's open, try it for a week and see, nothing ot lose	03:13
MACscr1077	Would be cool to get a quad core cpu and run an OS on each one	03:13
kiyoshi_wolf	how	03:13
cafuego	MACscr1077: Yes, you can.	03:13
ae	does anyone know how apache2 knows to display phpmyadmin ? its not in the /var/www folder or in the sites-enabled folder..?	03:13
scguy318	MACscr1077: you can't really do that if you mean natively, unless you mean some sort of hypervisor solution	03:14
cabrioleur	CommonClone, I think the password for sudo in live-cd is the same as login: ubuntu	03:14
bazhang_	kiyoshi_wolf: how adept are you at scripting?	03:14
CommonClone	cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus	03:14
p	What is the best way to convert five wmv files to an xvid video file?	03:14
cafuego	it's better to have the hypervisor do it and give 3 CPUs to a REALLY BUSY vm and let the other three idle on a single cpu.	03:14
smookerPC1	MACscr1077 with VMWare u can :) i runned in XP 2 Oss before, on AthlonX2	03:14
kiyoshi_wolf	uh not at all	03:14
dsnyders	HI all! How do I delete files/folders before a particular date? I want to clean up some log files.	03:14
bazhang_	p: why would you want to do that?	03:14
cabrioleur	blah569, there is not much convincing reasons to use ubuntu at all.	03:14
Rubin	ae: look in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled	03:14
MACscr1077	Im playing with parallels currently	03:15
tanlaan	anyone else having problems with firefox installing the flash plugin automatically?	03:15
Rubin	ae: though i thought it used to be a symlink in /var/www	03:15
cafuego	MACscr1077: Of course, 4 cores doesn't limit you to 4 OSes.	03:15
soulrider	!wireless	03:15
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	03:15
CommonClone	cabrioleur: it says no devices detected and wont let me use the menus	03:15
MACscr1077	Was thinking about running xp, ubuntu, osx, and vista =P	03:15
p	bazhang_, because two reasons: I want to cat this 5 files in just 1 file. And I want to be free from microsoft plugins	03:15
* cafuego runs 12-odd Linux installs on the one box.		03:15
scguy318	tanlaan: issue?	03:15
smookerPC1	woW	03:15
smookerPC1	12 wow!	03:15
tanlaan	scguy318: I'm getting a constant md5sum mismatch while installing it	03:15
nerdsquad3210	p whats are the names of the files ?	03:15
cabrioleur	CommonClone, open terminal, and type cfdisk	03:15
bazhang_	p: best ask in ##windows	03:16
cabrioleur	sorry "sudo cfdisk"	03:16
CommonClone	cabrioleur: ok	03:16
p	nerdsquad3210, file1.wmv file2.wmv file3.wmv...	03:16
kiyoshi_wolf	well never mind banshee is close enough	03:16
CommonClone	cabrioleur: says cannot open disk drive	03:16
kelsin	ae: check /etc/apache2/conf.d as well	03:16
tanlaan	scguy318: which for some reason makes it think it's installed when really it says that it wasn't installed and when you go to a page with flash it doesn't show up	03:16
dark_ninja	dsnyders: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/18849-delete-files-older-than-set-date-number-hours.html	03:16
nerdsquad3210	i dont belive you	03:16
p	bazhang_, I'm over ubuntu... I'm trying to do my job using mencoder.. Why do I need to ask for a windows user?	03:16
scguy318	tanlaan: try doing sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree?	03:17
bazhang_	p: to see if its even possible	03:17
* chalcedony waves		03:17
cabrioleur	CommonClone, check the cables :-)	03:17
jrib	smooker4: what is the output of 'ls -ld /media/sda6/downloads/'	03:17
p	bazhang_, off course it is possible to convert.. but I'm looking for the best way	03:17
robdig	dsnyders: you can use the find command	03:17
cafuego	Lunch time!	03:17
bazhang_	p: then use the way you know :}	03:18
cabrioleur	go to /dev and type "ls sd*". do you see something?	03:18
CommonClone	cabrioleur: cables are all good, vista is on it, but it quit working	03:18
nerdsquad3210	bazhang_: LOL	03:18
kelsin	p: don't know, but I would probably start looking at mencoder from mplayer first off	03:18
p	bazhang_, not working good.. I'm loosing some frames and the audio is being desyncronized	03:18
ae	kelsin: thanks	03:18
p	kelsin, yes.. I'm trying it too!	03:18
cabrioleur	CommonClone, can you at least start loading vista, or it just gives up from the beginning?	03:18
tanlaan	scguy318: that should end up being the same as if I do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree which gives me that error also along with the plugin thing for firefox	03:18
CommonClone	it will go to the login	03:18
CommonClone	cabrioleur: it will go to the login	03:19
bazhang_	nerdsquad3210: :}	03:19
CommonClone	cabrioleur: but thats it	03:19
cabrioleur	CommonClone, type "ls /dev/sd*". can you see anything?	03:19
ae	thanks for the help finding the phpahmin reference - it was in conf.d :)	03:19
nethuman	하이	03:19
CommonClone	cabrioleur: do I have to sudo that	03:20
bazhang_	nethuman: this is an English channel	03:20
cabrioleur	CommonClone, no	03:20
nerdsquad3210	how is it that the sudo command is suposed to make ubuntu safer ?	03:20
nerdsquad3210	roflol	03:20
Rubin	nerdsquad3210, one less password to be brute forced	03:20
CommonClone	cabrioleur: says "ls: do such file or directory	03:20
cabrioleur	bazhang_, this is a channel for everybody, regardless language etc.	03:21
CaptainMorgan	anyone have trouble installing netbeans 6.0 on Gutsy? the installer for me hangs at "/usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:35: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token" maybe a different theme is called for?	03:21
kelsin	nerdsquad3210: it helps enforce the proper way to do things, not just opening root shells all over the place	03:21
CommonClone	i mean ls: /dev/sd*; No such file or directory	03:21
bazhang_	cabrioleur: agreed--as long as they speak English	03:21
nerdsquad3210	acant i sudo using several shell at once ?	03:21
scguy318	!sudo \| nerdsquad3210	03:22
ubotu	nerdsquad3210: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	03:22
scguy318	nerdsquad3210: that's the discussion for your information	03:22
cabrioleur	bazhang_, free yourself. speak French!	03:22
zetheroo	where are all the avid GIMP users?	03:22
nerdsquad3210	cant i sudo using several shell at once ?	03:22
bazhang_	merci cabrioleur	03:22
CommonClone	cabrioleur: says "ls: /dev/sd*; do such file or directory	03:22
cabrioleur	bazhang_, de nada.	03:22
cabrioleur	CommonClone, did you try any other distribution?	03:23
CommonClone	cabrioleur: no	03:23
CommonClone	cabrioleur: but I can	03:23
cabrioleur	CommonClone, that would be a good idea. Ubuntu is pranky sometimes.	03:23
CommonClone	cabrioleur: ok	03:23
CaptainMorgan	zetheroo, right here	03:23
dark_ninja	help -l	03:24
Mikkel	hi, I have a newbie SSH question...	03:25
djangelo	hi everybody...	03:25
bazhang_	!ask \| Mikkel	03:25
ubotu	Mikkel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	03:25
Mikkel	I'm trying to get a process to persist after I close the SSH session (running a remote server so that's my only access)	03:25
Mikkel	heh, sorry :)	03:25
kelsin	Mikkel: look into screen	03:26
Mikkel	okay, thanks	03:26
kelsin	Mikkel: you run screen on the remote server, run your stuff in there, then Ctrl-a D to disconnect, then you can exit and when you log in later you can "screen -r" to bring it back	03:26
Palintheus	yes screen is very useful I use it with irssi	03:26
zetheroo	CaptainMorgan: your the avid GIMP user?	03:26
kelsin	Mikkel: there are lots of screen tutorials out there, it's a great tool :) I do also Palintheus	03:26
filth	greetings chaps!	03:27
dippy	is there any way to get AWN to have stacks, like leopard?	03:27
filth	Could someone please help me out?	03:27
Palintheus	!ask \| filth	03:27
ubotu	filth: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	03:27
scguy318	!ask \| filth	03:27
Mikkel	great, thanks for the help... wasn't sure what to search for :)	03:27
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filth	Oh thank you ubotu	03:28
pike__	i need a torrent client that allows you to set a minimun free disk space i just spent 30 min walking a relative through freeing up space in single user shell any suggestions?	03:28
dippy	tell her to stop downloading so much	03:28
T70K5	lol	03:28
filth	I have issues with games (warsow and sauerbraten) and my audio driveers, or rather, lack of audio drivers. However to add a twist, Amarok still plays audio no worries	03:28
CaptainMorgan	zetheroo, it's "you're" not your	03:29
Rubin	pike_, make a partition for your data, and save the torrents there.. when its full its full, without taking down your box	03:29
CaptainMorgan	anyone using netbeans on Gutsy ?	03:29
scguy318	filth: those games use OSS?	03:29
frank_	Capt I have	03:29
dippy	STACKS in AWN?	03:29
kelsin	pike__: rtorrent can do that, a long with lots of other stuff, it's a command line torrent client though, I love it	03:29
filth	I am not too sure, i think SDL?	03:29
joelmontes01	hello everyone	03:29
pike__	yeah.. i guess ill need to make a shared partition or somesuch itll need to be gui	03:29
CaptainMorgan	zetheroo, don't send pm's without asking first	03:29
kelsin	pike__: well... actually rtorrant can be setup so any .torrents you drop in a file start up	03:30
kelsin	pike__: so if it's setup write could be the easiest of them all	03:30
zetheroo	CaptainMorgan: so now that you have corrected me on 2 accounts of illegal conduct ... can I ask my question?	03:30
joelmontes01	I need to format a hard drive and I want to make sure the data is completely erased. What tool can I use (gui is the best option for me). Thanks	03:30
kelsin	pike__: right*	03:30
warriorforgod	Would a laptop with a 1.1 Ghz processor, 30 GB Hard drive, and 512 MB of ram be enough to run a light webserver?	03:30
CaptainMorgan	zetheroo, don't ask to ask - that's three. go lookup channel etiquette	03:31
kelsin	warriorforgod: def, depends on your definition of "light" of course, but I think so	03:31
bazhang_	CaptainMorgan: ease up	03:31
filth	Warsow uses Openal and Fg or something	03:31
Rubin	warriorforgod, of course. webservers have been in existance since the 80s	03:31
pike__	joelmontes01: there is a 'wipe' application but if youre using journaling which ext3 is then its a question of how sure you want to be. a simple rm *; cat /dev/urandom > file.txt; rm file.txt might work as well	03:31
zetheroo	CaptainMorgan: ok... three offences .... can PM you now?	03:32
dsnyders	joelmontes01, you may want to look into a secure erase tool if it is important that the data be irretrievable.	03:32
joelmontes01	pike_, the harddrive had windows before hand	03:32
filth	Plase someone help me :(	03:32
Rubin	zetheroo, just ask your question, here in this channel, so we all can see if we know the answer. come on..	03:32
warriorforgod	OK, next question. How could I take an installed webserver and clone it to the laptop hard drive?	03:32
Palintheus	zetheroo: ask your question in channel, more people to help	03:32
filth	ive looked on forums to no success	03:32
scguy318	filth: what's the exact nature of the issues? any logs to paste?	03:32