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Dr_willisText based console/cli/dos is the next big thing.00:00
nevilleLol00:00
Dr_willisSaves on Power ussage. so its more 'green' for the planet.00:00
Dr_willisand GREEN CRT Serial terminal  will be comming out soon!00:00
nevillePlease stop it now00:00
rignesActually, it seems to be finally sinking in at Micro$oft that the cli isn't so terrible.  I mean, their implementation is still crappy, but at least it's there.00:00
nevilleI'll be all laughed out00:00
Dr_willis'floppy disks are more recycelable then usb drives'00:01
nevilleHahaha00:01
loungeExchange 2007 is CLI to even just change a mailbox limit :s00:01
rignesDon't get me started on that.  I wasted ages trying to figure out limits on Exchange 2007.00:01
rignesThe trouble is there are a zillion places to change the limits, and if you miss just one it defaults to the lowest.00:02
Dr_willisthat makes it more secure. :)00:02
Dr_williswho needs a variable set in just 1 place!00:02
rignes:P00:03
loungeyep, took me ages too to figure it, damm Micros~100:03
rignesI applaud them for seeing the light that is the cli, but there are certain things that should be in a gui front end on a mail server.  And I'd think changing message size limits would be one of them.  I mean, it seems like a fairly common tweak..00:04
penguini have a digital camera and when i upload the pics to my hdd it saves them with the .ppm file extenstion. what program can i use to convert these .ppm files to jpeg?00:05
rignesAnyway, enough microshaft talk for me here.  This is a Linux based channel after all. :D00:05
penguin!ppm00:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ppm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi00:05
penguin!.ppm00:05
rignesppmtojpeg I think.00:05
Dr_willisWhat are you trying to learn penguin ?00:06
Dr_willis!find ppm00:06
ubotuFound: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx, mrwtoppm, mrwtoppm-data, mrwtoppm-gimp, mrwtoppm-utils (and 2 others)00:06
NickPrestapenguin, imagemagick has a nice utility called "convert"00:06
rignesOh yeah, there is that too.00:06
rignesman convert00:06
penguinDr_willis: im trying to convert .ppm inamges to jpeg images00:06
penguinNickPresta: is imagemagick available in the repos?00:06
NickPrestapenguin, yep00:07
Dr_willisyep. :) thats proberly the best tool for doind a lot of them00:07
mcrandelloI'm looking for information on putting a file in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe to ignore a device, anyone know if there's a guide anywhere on what I need to do to accomplish that?00:08
mcrandellogoogle failed me and the "preferences.fdi" doesn't have any info on making it ignore the device00:09
geniiFaceoff :)00:10
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Linux_GaloreI usually use gimp to change image file fromats myself00:16
Linux_Galoreformats*00:16
Zabulusok, i still need help, upgrading to gutsy didnt solve the problem00:20
Linux_GaloreZabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrad00:21
Linux_GaloreZabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade00:21
Linux_Galoreafter changing your sources file obviously00:22
Zabulusno...00:22
adamonline45Every time I open amarok it will seem to be loading, then the taskbar icon disappears and it doesn't start :(  What can I do?00:22
Zabulusdidnt get the chance, my mouse froze up before i could do anything00:22
Dr_willisrun it fron a ternubal and look for error messages00:23
Linux_GaloreZabulus: you dont need a mouse00:23
Zabulusi know, just makes things easier00:23
Linux_GaloreZabulus: login to t terminal no the desktop00:23
Linux_Galorenot*00:23
Zabuluswill that possibly stop my mouse from freezing up?00:24
Linux_GaloreZabulus: or press ctrl alt F1 at the login screen00:24
Dr_willisthis is a usb mouse?00:24
Zabulusyeah00:24
michael_I have a question about my flash drive:00:24
Dr_willisi would say to to the console and look at dmesg output - see if any messages are showingup about the mouse.  You can upgrade/edit the soruces totally from the console if need be00:24
michael_it used to come up when I plugged it in, and now I cant access it00:25
michael_it lights up, but no ones home00:25
adamonline45Dr_willis: Dang, now it won't even do what it WAS doing (showing the bouncy icon and a spot in the taskbar).  I ran top and killed 2 amarok processes just before trying to run it from a terminal...00:25
Linux_Galoremichael_: sound corrupted, have you tried it on another machine ?00:26
michael_yeah, my sound is currupted too  lol00:26
Linux_Galoremichael_: that is what happens when you remove a SD card without unmounting is usually00:26
adamonline45Dr_willis: My Adept Notifier isn't responding either... Hmm...00:27
Linux_Galoreit*00:27
DrUnKnMuNkY1hey everyone. my dsl connection seems to be dropping randomly about 5-6 times a day which is starting to get pretty annoying. does anyone know of any way to keep this from dropping?00:27
NickPrestaadamonline45, I sometimes notice that behavior (amarok won't start) but only after X crashes and there is a zombie-like process left over. I have to `killall amarok*` and then it works just fine.00:27
michael_yes, in fact it was being 'borrowed, by another machine00:27
michael_working fine in that machine (using Windows)..... I bring it to mine and nothing00:28
michael_its a flash drive00:28
adamonline45NickPresta: I just typed that and it said 'no process killed'...00:28
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Linux_GaloreNickPresta: two suggestions, rename the amorokrc  file in /home/user-name/.kde/share/config  to amarokrc-old and see if it fixes00:29
Linux_Galoreamarokrc  sorry00:30
adamonline45Linux_Galore: I just initiated a reboot, but if it's still happening (as it was with the LAST reboot) then I'll try that :)00:30
Linux_Galoreor just reinstall amarok ie remove it then install it again00:30
adamonline45Linux_Galore: That's doable.  I've seen a few means of removing with aptitude; which syntax would you recommend I use?00:31
Dr_willisremoving amarok will NOT clear out the users settings.. if those are the casuse of the problem00:31
adamonline45Dr_willis: Noted, ty00:32
michael_can anyone help me with a sound issue?00:32
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: thats why I suggested renaming the amarokrc file first00:32
Dr_willismake a new user. see if it works for them. if so that shows that its a setting issue00:32
XcellIs there a doctor in the house?00:32
michael_I get nothig but static00:33
Zabulusok, now that im on my kubuntu, what commands should i run after upgrading to gutsy?00:33
Linux_GaloreDr_willis: could also be a sql db error in the amorok setup hmm seen that before00:33
michael_I can hear the sound in the 'background', but masked with heavy static00:33
Linux_Galoremichael_: sound like you have mute on00:34
michael_I have SB Audigy 5.100:34
michael_no00:34
Linux_Galoremichael_: do you have on board sound ?00:34
Dr_willisHmm that card should be very well supported00:34
michael_everyone I talk to so far are stumped00:34
adamonline45Linux_Galore: Dr_willis: Ahh, cool, a second reboot fixed it!00:34
Dr_willisYou using the digital out?00:34
Linux_Galoremichael_: ie on board and the and a sb card00:34
michael_yes, do you think they are conflicting?00:35
Zabuluscan someone help me, my mouse keeps on freezing up, just upgraded to gutsy in hopes of abandoning the problem, but its followed me00:35
Linux_Galoremichael_: no, whats happening is the machine is defaulting to your on board sound00:35
Minatakuhttp://segakatana.com/images/hardware/dclp100/gdrom/test_ptn/pulse_s.bmp00:35
ShawnRiskI am not able to load the Monitor & Display module in the System Settings. Any ideas how to fix this?  USing Kubuntu.  the error message is: "the module Monitor & Display could not be loaded" and I searched google and got nowhere00:35
michael_I thought I disabled the onboard sound, but not willing to bet my life on it00:36
Zabulusgo to your bios and check00:36
Linux_Galoremichael_: oj type  asound list00:36
michael_I guess I will disable it in bios00:36
michael_oh ok00:36
Linux_Galoremichael_: you will see two sound card/chipsets listed00:37
michael_btw - i'm a newbie00:37
crackhead_25_anyone have thoughts on ktorrent? i keep getting an input/output error reading from the cache of a file being downloaded.. fix?00:37
adamonline45oh btw ty guys00:37
Linux_Galoremichael_:  now what we will do is tell the sound manager what we want to set as the default00:37
Dr_williscould remove the old data/cache00:37
michael_command not found00:37
Zabulusif anyone could help it would be greaty appreciated, mouse keeps on freezing up at random points, unplugging/replugging doesnt help, neither did upgrading to gutsy00:37
nick_for some reason konquer puts my tabs on the bottom instead of the top............... how do i fix this00:37
crackhead_25_Dr_willis: what do you mean? be more specific?00:38
Linux_Galoremichael_:  sorry  asoundconf  list00:38
michael_ahh k00:38
Dr_willisktorrent has a cache dir. delete the offending data. of course it could be some sort of disk issue going on00:38
crackhead_25_i deleted the data. it worked for a little bit, and then the same problem happened.00:38
michael_gives only Audigy00:38
Linux_Galoremichael_: Im used to using autocomplete  ie type  asound [TAB] then list00:38
mcrandello_Zabulus: what video card you have?00:39
Dr_willissounds like the driv4e may be having some issues.. or somthign really really weird with ktorrent00:39
Zabulus...nvidia 7600gt, why?00:39
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adamonline45Does anyone know how to make my taskbar items (KBluetooth, KNetworkManager, Power Manager, etc.) not be displayed as widgets on the desktop, but in the taskbar next to KMix and Klipper, etc.?00:39
crackhead_25_i can read and write to the drive through other means. i think the problem must be with ktorrent.00:39
crackhead_25_how can i fix it, though? what could it be?00:39
mcrandelloZabulus: if it were a usb mouse and an ati card on a laptop I might have known a fix for it, sorry00:40
Zabulusthats ok, i wont be surprised if i never find a fix, im about to abandon linux entirely00:40
GrahamAZabulus: MAN OVERBOARD!00:40
Zabulusbeen dealing with this mouse problem for over 12 months now00:40
michael_Linux_Galore: since Audigy is the only one listed, does that mean that the on-board sound is disabled for sure?00:40
GrahamAZabulus: Took me 2 years to get my wireless working.00:41
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   not <card. is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:41
lovedeatmcan anybody here help me with a printer issue....i already used the cups forum on ubuntu but it didnt tell me where to get it from00:41
Zabulusi gave up on wireless too, but i got around that00:41
mcrandelloalthough some things to look out for are how many devices are sharing irq, in my case it was a wifi card, modem, video card and the usb bus, the usb was usually the thing that shut down first00:41
Linux_Galorenow*00:41
Zabulusmoved the modem, have internet wire to me, everyone else gets wireless00:41
Zabulusdont mind that, but not being able to use the mouse kinda su@#$00:41
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:41
GrahamAZabulus: What's your mouse issue?00:42
Zabulusmouse freezes up at random times after startup, the mouse works fine in win xp, so im thinking its some compatability issue00:42
Zabulusand no, unplugging and replugging does not help00:42
michael_Linux_Galore:             sudo: soundconf: command not found00:43
Linux_GaloreZabulus: change your mouse configuration00:43
mcrandellothat's what made me think irq issue, once my usb stopped it wouldn't restart without a boot00:43
Linux_Galoremichael_:   asoundconf00:43
michael_k00:43
Zabulusto what?00:43
lovedeatmZabulus, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?00:43
Zabulusummm, yeah, i have a thought, why are you asking me? im a linux newbie00:44
Linux_GaloreZabulus: usually you can select the default protocol in the setup00:44
lovedeatmlol...00:44
Linux_Galoreie ms /logi / ps200:44
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts?00:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: you dont need drivers for a HP printer00:45
michael_Linux_Galore:       got the list00:45
Zabulusok, am i looking in the right place? system settings/keyboard and mouse?00:45
Dr_willisid just manually edit the xorg.conf file. :) but im old-skool00:46
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: HP printers generally use the same setup within each family, you dont need a specific one for a specific model00:46
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, then i have a definete printer issue because i can't print and i dont under stand why. i have the printer connect to an lpt port00:46
Dr_willisid also install gpm for the console and see if the mouse works in the console00:46
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: hold on let me get the liunux-printing url they have a help databse telling what setup is advised00:47
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok thanks00:47
Linux_Galorehttp://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi00:48
lovedeatmk ill let you know if it worked00:48
michael_!pastebin00:48
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)00:48
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: or you can just google the printer ie use  www.google.com/linux00:48
Dr_williscups.org has printer info also. :)00:49
ZabulusLinux_Galore: mouse configuration under system settings/keyboard and mouse or what?00:49
michael_Linux_Galore:      http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47482/00:49
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: I havent hit a HP printer yet that doesnt work with cups (common unix print system) that comes standard with ubuntu00:49
Dr_williswell HP has a low end color laser. that i hear has.. some what lacking.. linux support.. B/W worked.. but color dident.  :(00:50
Dr_willisit may been fixed by now00:50
Linux_GaloreI think HP have a opensource help site too for Linux00:51
michael_yeah, I bought the HP OJ Pro L7680 just when the printer hit the shelves, brought it home and the driver was aiting for me when I got back home00:51
Linux_Galoremichael_:   your ignoring me00:52
Zabulusim amazed my mouse hasnt frozen up already, but im afraid to open up too many programs00:52
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:52
michael_I sent you a link00:52
michael_see it?00:52
Linux_Galoremichael_: yes it means you only typed asoundconf  without telling asoundconf what you want it to do00:53
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, so i went to the site and DLed the ppd jsut in case so how do i install..generlaly speaking00:53
michael_oh00:53
Linux_Galoremichael_: lesseon 1, computers are idiots00:53
Linux_Galorelesson*00:53
michael_ahh00:53
Dr_willisthe ppd may allredy be inclided in the repos. I do recall there being some ppd packages not isntalled by default00:53
Linux_Galoremichael_: dont tell what to do they will ask questions00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card>   now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list00:54
michael_sudo asoundconf set-default-Audigy00:54
Zabulushey, where is the grub config file located?00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_:   no -00:54
Linux_Galoremichael_: just a space00:54
n1x0rgot an evms question, I'll check #evms, but wanted to try here first... is it possible to have more than one volume per region00:55
Zabulus#grub00:55
fredy!mp3 | me00:55
ubotume: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats00:55
Zabulus!grub00:55
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto00:55
michael_just a space between where?00:56
michael_Sorry. the computer AND me are stupid00:56
michael_lol00:56
Linux_Galoremichael_:  between the command and the card00:57
Zabulusok, well, found the grub config file, now, to make sure, is it safe to delete lines out of it?00:57
michael_ahh, got ya00:57
michael_ok did it00:57
michael_still have static00:59
Linux_Galoremichael_: reboot then run alsamixer00:59
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, so thank you for your help...it worked...for some reason i don't have any print drivers installed (or i just can't acces them even as a root)...any thought on that01:00
michael_ok01:00
blekoshi,i had remote desktop enabled and run ktorrent after awhile i got a msg saying the remote user has closed the connection01:00
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Linux_Galorelovedeatm: do you have cups turned on ?01:00
Zabulusok, can someone help me with the grub? when i started the update to gutsy from feisty, it added to lines to the grub menu, is it ok to delete the 2 lines for what im guessing is feisty?01:01
blekosis it possible for ktorrent to somehow interact with remote desktop?01:01
martijn81if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of package do i need then?01:01
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: K -> System Settings   click on the advanced tab then click on services01:01
northpunki have been using ubuntu for a week.. put kde desktop on today but my menu and bakground are still gnome (even the about gnome is tehre).. anyone know hoe wo completely remove gdm?01:01
sub[t]rnl!purekde01:02
ubotupurekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »01:02
northpunkprivate me so it doesnt' get mixed up in the rest of the chat01:02
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: make sure cups is ticked to be started on boot and make sure it started if not start it01:02
Dr_willisYou can configure/tweak grub all you want by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. BACKUP your original just in case. and its well worth reading the docs on grub at the grub homepage. to learn the ins and outs of grub01:02
sub[t]rnlZabulus: ^^01:03
Dr_willisnorthpunk,  what menu and background are you refering to? You can easially change your desktop wallpaper.01:03
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, whers the tickER @01:03
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: next to were it says cups01:04
* flaccid_ pats his NAS01:04
northpunkwhen it starts up it showes the dubuntu blue desktop.. but then the dnome brown comes back (the gnome wallpapersr are in the list nothing else).. the top menu shows the ubuntu brown logo.. not the blue gears of kubuntu01:04
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok thanks01:04
northpunkand in the system where it has about ubuntu.. it has teh brown logo.. and has about gnome still01:04
martijn81if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of cd do i need then? powerpc or i38601:04
MaTiAzi38601:05
northpunkstarts up as kubuntu fine.. but when it loads goes back to gnome (but i used apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gdm)01:05
Dr_williswhen whast starts up? The PC? or when X starts up? you may be refering to the  boot up splash screen?01:05
Dr_willisHmmm01:05
Dr_willisYou dident need to remove ubuntu-desktop or gdm.01:05
northpunki didn't like it anymore anyways01:05
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm      and be sure that kdm is selected..01:05
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: make sure your in admin mode so click the button on the bottom right when you go into the services section01:05
northpunkpovray only has an interface for kde not gnome anyways.. and that is what started my decision to change it01:05
michael_ok, back and alsamixer is up01:06
Dr_willisYou can easially run kde apps under gnome. : ) and gnome apps under kde.. heh..01:06
northpunkwhen i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm it just goes back to my root line and doesn't display anything01:06
michael_what do I need muted and what needs to be on other than the suround speakers of course01:07
ardchoillenorthpunk: Think about that for a second01:07
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: bugger they have changed it, right click on cupsd then if it isnt market with "yes" to the right and start then do the same again and start at boot01:07
ardchoillenorthpunk: If you're logged in as root, why would you use sudo?01:07
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martijn81thanks MaTiAz, i might buy a macbook in the future the (if the screen resolution is mimimum 1920x1200)01:08
northpunkwell i'm not on as root or su right now01:08
* Linux_Galore admins rhel machines all day so gets mixed up with user settings layouts01:08
lovedeatmok01:09
MinatakuDon't buy Apple products.01:09
MinatakuSupport free and open standards.01:09
michael_apple is nice01:09
ardchoilleMinataku: Got it :)01:09
Linux_GaloreMinataku: Ive got one, for the life of me I cant think what people say they are easier I find them terribly confusing01:09
MinatakuSure, if you think completely proprietary hardware is "nice".01:10
GrahamADoes anybody here play Enemy Territory?01:10
GrahamAWolfenstein, not Quakr Wars01:10
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, im goign to system ---> printer right/01:10
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: no "services"01:10
michael_still have static01:10
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: in the advanced tab01:10
Linux_Galoremichael_: run alsamixer in a terminal01:11
MinatakuLinux_Galore: OSX is based heavily off of NeXTSTEP, which was a horrible system if you ever had the misfortune of experiencing it01:11
michael_got it up01:11
michael_(they (we) are working you tonight, eh?01:11
Linux_Galoremichael_: check mute and levels in each, you should see a whole pile of controls01:11
michael_I do01:11
michael_mic is at 001:12
Linux_Galoremichael_: if you see all the controls that means the driver is working01:12
michael_everything else looks good01:12
michael_but I still get static01:12
michael_I just switched from Suse and it worked great with that01:13
Linux_Galoremichael_:   find a wav  file and type   aplay file.wav01:13
lovedeatmi wish windows had this irc thingie..this make linuz so much easier than windows by like a conjillion times01:13
MinatakuThere are two controls that carry importance, at least on my card01:13
Minataku"Main" and "PCM"01:13
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: windows does have irc just no real community to talk of01:13
MinatakuSet one to 100%, and adjust the other one as desired01:14
martijn81macbook pro or thinkpad T60?01:14
lovedeatmo0o...lol...i wihs i had known about it then and that they had a community01:14
RogueJediXI'm pretty sure I've seen a windows channel here on freenode01:14
MinatakuI set "Main" to 100% and adjust "PCM"01:14
Minatakumartijn81: Thinkpad T6001:14
MinatakuBut I personally and very highly recommend Toshiba laptops01:14
Linux_GaloreRogueJediX: yeah, there are a few FOSS projects on windows but the community os very small01:15
Linux_Galoreis*01:15
michael_I played a MP3 and get all static01:15
RogueJediXLinux_Galore: Ah, I see01:15
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, cupsys = yes = running01:15
MinatakuI've got two Toshiba machines running ATM01:15
Linux_Galorehard to have a community when one side keeps saying "we own it all and wont share", sort of puts a dent in the realtionship01:15
MinatakuOne is from 2003 and is my primary system01:15
MinatakuThe other is a collection piece from 198701:15
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: ok01:16
devinuswhen the hell will kde4 be released01:16
NickPresta!kde4 > devinus01:17
lovedeatmyeah...ok i think i'm throuhg with question for the night thanks all for the help..im sure ill be back for me..im working on a server...using ubuntu..anyway lataz01:17
MinatakuWhen it's ready01:17
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: run  sudo  adept_manager01:17
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: lets get all the HP stuff installed01:17
NickPrestaLinux_Galore, that should be kdesu, instead of sudo01:17
michael_gotta go01:17
lovedeatmk01:17
Linux_GaloreNickPresta: never used the k version in 3 years01:18
michael_later folks, thanks01:18
NickPrestaLinux_Galore, that's fine, but http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo01:18
michael_I may have more time later01:18
michael_thanks Linux_Galore:01:18
Linux_GaloreNickPresta: I know, un-needed fluster01:18
lovedeatmok so what do i now01:19
Linux_Galoretype hp in the seach box01:19
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: what type of HP printer is it ?01:20
Zabulusnow that my mouse is actually working, knock on wood, any suggestions on making the linux experience more pleasurable?01:20
lovedeatmits an deskjet 832C and 830C01:20
MinatakuHm01:21
ardchoilleZabulus: mplayer libdvdcss2 (medibuntu repo)01:21
MinatakuI just noticed that the Toshiba T1200 keyboard has the Ctrl key in the Unix position01:21
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, 832C and 830C, i DLed the drivers though so it owrks now01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: ok make sure the foomatic-hp-hpijs  package is installed if not install it01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: aah dont worry then01:22
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, lol yeah its installed and thanks...01:22
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: might be wise though to install the correct drivers package01:23
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: that way you get any updates automatically01:23
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, foomatic? yeah its installed01:24
Dr_willisI find that by using windows for some time.. when i come back to Linux.. i find linux very pleasureable.. :)01:25
nevilleYes!!01:26
nevilleI agree!01:26
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: also hpijs01:26
Zabulusgahh, now i get to figure out why audio card isnt working...01:26
Linux_GaloreI have mixed feeling, windows does some things better linux others01:26
nosrednaekimZabulus: networking working now?01:26
Zabulusmy networking was fine, i was having problems with my mouse01:27
Linux_GaloreI think it more to do with Linux not being supported by hardware makers than anything01:27
Dr_willisI find some programs FOR windows - do some things better then some programs for linux. :)01:27
nosrednaekimoh... yeah... thats right01:27
Zabulusnow im trying to play music, but im not hearing anything01:27
nevilleTry them in Wine?01:27
nevilleI fiddled with it for a long time01:27
Dr_willisVista seems to have been a step back in 'hardware' compatiability  for a lot of my stuff...01:27
nevilleAnd got most everything of mine going fine in wine01:27
nosrednaekimZabulus: check and make sure all of the channels in kmix are maxxed and unmuted01:27
nevilleExcept for some games01:27
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Dr_willissucks when the HW makers decide to obsolete things. :)01:27
Linux_GaloreI think Linux/BSD etc have an edge over windows thanks to the community01:28
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Dr_willisIm not sure how well  Nero 8 would work with wine.   Id live to see all of Nero8  and its tools ported to linux01:28
Linux_GaloreI think Linux doesnt sell the community aspect enough and just talks software01:28
Linux_GaloreMicrosoft Achilles heal is the lack of a free and open community01:29
N1ghtm4r3Helo everybody01:29
N1ghtm4r3i am right now on my Kubuntu Live CD01:29
Zabuluseverything in kmix is good01:29
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i just installed hpijs like you said anything else i should do?01:29
nevilleSee01:29
nevilleIf Linux had a footprint bigger than <1%01:30
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: well you can look at the other packages and see what you like but thats all I installed form my HP jet stuff01:30
nevilleI'm sure we'd get alot of the Windows software too01:30
neville=]01:30
nosrednaekimZabulus: hrm... what audio chipset?01:30
N1ghtm4r3im going to reinstall Kubuntu again01:30
Zabulusi have a soundblaster audigy 401:30
N1ghtm4r3due to previous problems01:31
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, ok, can you have a look at this question and give me your thought http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1950101:31
nosrednaekim!hardware | Zabulus look it up on this page01:31
ubotuZabulus look it up on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport01:31
Dr_willisaudigy 4? that the xi-fi card?01:31
Dr_willisor is it called X-fi - i forget.01:32
Zabulusthats whats weird, i think it was working with feisty01:33
Zabulusmaybe the bios turned my onboard audio back on...01:33
NickPrestaDr_willis, it's X-Fi, but that isn't the same as the audigy 4 card, IIRC01:33
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: why RTSS, I just use nfs01:33
Dr_willisWell last i heard the 'x-fi' cards for some odd reason - creative had released 64bit drivers.. but not 32bit drivers...01:34
lovedeatmwhats nfs...01:34
Dr_willisI havent kept up on it lately. My Audigy2 is still doing the job. :)01:34
Dr_willis!nfs01:34
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:34
NickPrestaDr_willis, yeah. I was checking it out today: http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx01:34
Linux_Galore!nfs01:34
NickPrestaDr_willis, the 64bit drivers aren't too great but at least they're available :)01:34
Dr_willisYep. Creative really dropped the ball with their x-fi stuf.. i was going to get one.. but decided to not bother.01:35
lovedeatm!nfs > lovedeatm01:35
Linux_Galorelovedeatm:   user |01:35
lovedeatmthats for the file sharing side...RTSS is for streaming audio01:36
Linux_Galorelovedeatm:   user | subject01:36
N1ghtm4r3funny how i can install Linux very easily and run whatever programs i want at the same time01:36
N1ghtm4r3the only problem to this is that my computer's fan becomes very loud lol!01:36
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: what not icecast01:37
Zabuluswell, i think ill check bios to see if onboard got activated somehow01:37
Zabulusbrb01:37
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: why not icecast01:37
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i have icecast...im more concerned about the workstations part of the question01:38
refreshratei want to make a keyboard shortcut for /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, i changed its permission, but i still cant use it w/o being root. anything i can do?01:38
lovedeatmbecause i still need to be able to run things like final cut pro and garagband on the mac\01:38
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: aaah proprietary lock in01:39
Linux_Galoreilife<- talks to -> ilife01:40
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder01:40
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lovedeatmLinux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder. can i do that01:43
Zabulusyay, simple fix01:43
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: havwent got a clue I only have 1 apple machine and I dont use it for media01:43
nosrednaekimZabulus: works now?01:44
Zabulusyep, my onboard audio somehow got turned back on01:44
nosrednaekimZabulus: what was the fix for the mouse?01:44
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, o...i have a top that won't install linux on it...thats another log gruling thing and im sure your tired and dont want to help woth that its late ya'now01:44
Zabulusnow im just hoping that doesnt mess something up with my win xp01:44
Zabulusim not actually sure what fixed the mouse, im not even sure its entirely fixed or if i havent set off whatever triggers it to freeze01:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: Ive got a G3 lap and Linux is not well supported on ppc anymore Im finding01:45
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: yellow-dog is supposed to be good01:45
Linux_Galorelovedeatm: unless you have a server then its fine01:46
nosrednaekimZabulus: XD01:46
Zabulusok, any more suggestions for a better linux experience?01:46
Zabulusyeah, i keep knocking on wood every time i say my mouse is working01:46
Zabulusknock on wood01:46
nosrednaekimZabulus: don't do anything until you know exactly what it does.01:46
lovedeatmLinux_Galore, lol not a server check it out...this is what happened after following all the directions for a G# lombard, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1914101:46
Zabulusnow i have to figure out which of my games i can play on linux01:47
lovedeatmG3801:47
lovedeatmG3*01:47
nosrednaekimUT2004, Doom, Neverwinter NIghts01:47
jembougeNeverwinter Nights great01:48
jembouge:p01:48
jembougeworks all fine01:48
Linux_Galorewow works pretty well under wine now01:48
smookerhi all, i have problems with the sound, i cant put the sound UP its like 30% and my KMix doesnt work ..01:48
Linux_Galoresmooker: run alsamixer01:49
Zabuluswell, which doom? and how about unreal anthology?01:49
nosrednaekimZabulus: all of the dooms01:50
Zabulusawesome01:50
Linux_Galorethere is also a pile of open source doom engine games01:50
* Zabulus grabs doom trilogy01:50
nosrednaekimWolfenstein is good too01:50
nosrednaekimas well as Saurbraten01:50
Linux_Galorealso some unreal engine based games too01:50
nosrednaekimAlien Arena for example01:51
Zabulusi think i have too many games01:51
Zabulusnahhhh01:51
smookerthanks it was like 70% in alexamixer but stil not hearing as before01:52
ardchoilleZabulus: No such thing as "too many games"01:52
smookerproubly i have other mixers with the players come ?01:52
Linux_GaloreIm am mame person and Linux is the king of emulation support01:52
Linux_Galorea*01:52
Zabulusyes there is, when you dont have enough time to play 1/4 of the games you have01:52
user_soup all...  i have Feisty installed on an old lappy.  the cd-rom recently died.  would i be able to download the Gusty .iso and mount it while runny Feisty to install 7.10?01:53
Linux_GaloreI must be the only person with over 40 different version or space invaders01:53
Zabulusyou should be able to use feisty do update, not have to use image01:53
user_Zabulus: I have a corrupted version of 7.04 already :/01:53
Linux_GaloreI must be the only person with over 40 different versions of space invaders01:54
Zabulusouch01:54
Zabulusyou said that01:54
user_zabulus: i have no directory other than "root"01:54
user_zabulus: which contains "desktop" and thats *all*01:54
Zabulushow the hell did you do that?01:54
ardchoilleAre you viewing "hidden" files/folders?01:55
user_zabulus: don't know.  booting one day, it said it found errors on the disk, and to run fsck.  So i did, and when i finally was able to get into X, everything was gone01:55
Linux_Galoreuser_:  sudo -s  then look01:55
user_ardchoille, linux_galore: i can try that, but i'd like to do a fresh install of 7.1001:56
Zabulus40 different versions of space invaders, i think ive played 10-20 different versions, dont have any installed on my comp01:56
user_am i able to mount the .iso while running Feisty?01:56
user_networking is all i have that still works01:56
Linux_Galoreuser_: standard user on 7.04 cant view root directories from memory01:56
Zabulushave a few versions for ps2, one of those "collections" games01:56
nevilleHas anybody here ever given Virtualbox a go before?01:57
user_linux_galore: maybe i phrased it wrong - when i open konqueror, it automatically opens root (file:///), and in there is "Desktop".  There are *no* other directories (ie, /usr, /bin/ /home)01:57
nevilleIf so, what was the performance like?01:57
Linux_Galoreuser_: correct that is exactly right01:58
user_linux_galore: so what is the fix?01:58
Linux_Galoreuser_: you opened konqueror as a "user"  users dont change root directories on root does01:58
Linux_Galoreonly*01:58
nosrednaekimneville: works great here01:59
user_i used to be able to view all directories before, now i can't even open /home01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_:  type  sudo konqueror01:59
user_ok, so what changed?01:59
user_why could i view all my directories before, but not now?01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_: basically your user isnt an administrator01:59
mcrandelloneville: I'm running windows in it, it's not much slower than native01:59
Zabulushey, is there a game like bust a move that i can dl?01:59
mcrandelloneville: having some problems with drm devices though which kind of makes it moot01:59
Linux_Galoreuser_: check your user settings, basically your machine is in normal secure mode02:00
user_linux_galore: so i do i revert back to the way it was?02:00
user_linux_galore: i wouldn't know where to look, as i didn't knowingly change anything- this all started after running fsck02:00
mcrandelloneville: also turn off composite effects on the DT if you want to run windows in seamless mode, it causes refresh problems otherwise02:00
nevilleAhh02:00
nevilleBecause, I wasp lanning on putting Windows 98 on it, and seeing if Starcraft would run well02:01
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nevilleDue to Wine not entirely liking Starcraft02:01
mcrandelloI don't think it does accellerated 3d if it uses that02:01
nevilleStarcraft is direct draw 3 =]02:01
Zabulushehe, bomberman!!!02:01
nevilleOnly needs a 90MHz processor, 16Mb ram02:02
Linux_Galoreuser_: The root directory (/) contains a file called /.hidden. Open this in a text editor and delete the names of the directories which you want to have shown.02:02
MaTiAzinsane requirements.02:02
nevilleTell that to me when I had my pentium 90, and I'll be inclined to agree =P02:02
Linux_Galoreuser_: you will have to open the file with sudo02:02
nevilleThanks for the input though mcrandello02:03
Zabulusso whats a good version of bomberman on here?02:03
Linux_Galoreksudo kedit02:03
Zabulusmultiplayer version hopefully...02:03
user_linux_galore: thanks!  that probably will work.  But now, I'm still interested in being able to mount an .iso of 7.10 (seems better to do fresh install - people have had issues upgrading).  Is this possible?02:04
Linux_Galore!upgrade02:04
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:04
user_Linux_Galore: i don't want to upgrade- I want to do a fresh install, hopefully without the aid of flash drive (don't have one) or cd-rom (recently died)02:05
nosrednaekimuser_: I don't suppose it can net-boot?02:06
user_linux_galore: if this isn't possible, i'll try the upgrade02:06
mcrandellouser_: that's going to be very complicated I would think02:06
ardchoilleuser_: How many hard drives do you have?02:06
Linux_Galoreuser_: just upgrade, it will just replace the old packages02:06
user_ardchoille: only one02:06
mcrandellopartitions?02:06
ardchoilleuser_: Ok, you're going to need one partition to use while the installer is running and another partition to hold the new system it is installing to. Can you see why that wouldn't be a good thing with only one drive?02:07
Zabulushey, does anyone know of a good multiplayer online version of bomberman? the more like bomberman party edition it is the better02:07
user_ardchoille: yeah, i understand... fortunately, repartitoning is fairly easy02:07
Linux_Galoreardchoille: think about the path your taking, have you got a spare 3 hours02:08
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: That's exactly what I was trying to get user_ to realise02:08
user_ok, i get it! :) I'll re-open hidden files, and upgrade like everyone else02:09
Linux_Galoreuser_: basically with Linux almost anything can be done, the down side is your going to have to blow 3-4 hours way of your time to get there02:09
Linux_Galoreaway*02:09
Linux_Galoreuser_: the hidden files are not hidden to the root user only to the normal user02:10
user_linux_galore: why would it take 3 hours to mount 2 drives and copy an O/S to one?02:10
nosrednaekimas onlg as you have "cp" anything is possible02:10
Linux_Galoreuser_: updates are a root process so those directories wont be hidden02:10
user_linux_galore: ok, so i can skip that step if i just want to upgrade, right?02:10
user_I can just use02:11
user_Adept to upgrade then?02:11
Linux_Galoreuser_: backup files, resize partitions, partition hard disk, the list goes on02:12
Linux_Galoreuser_: just read the following link02:12
Linux_Galore!upgrade02:12
ubotuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes02:12
user_alright, alright.  I'll try it.  thanks everyone for the help!02:13
Linux_Galoreheh02:14
Linux_GaloreI usually just save /home and flush the system02:14
ardchoilleBetter to put /home on its own partition02:15
Linux_Galoreardchoille: I do that but I have had installers totally ignore my instructions and stuff up /home02:15
nosrednaekimLinux_Galore: eh?never had that happen..02:16
Xcellfinally02:17
deurytexcell02:17
Xcellya02:17
XcellEverything ok?02:18
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: Oh, that's not good.02:18
Linux_Galoreardchoille: yeah especially when I didnt back it up for a month02:18
deuryteits still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,02:19
deurytei finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial02:19
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XcellDeu: brb..stand by.02:19
Linux_Galorethink it was a red hat bug on the installer   ie use whole disk but not this bit conflict02:19
Linux_Galoreso now I always backup the /home directory/partition02:20
Xcellk02:22
deuryteits still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial,02:22
deurytei finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial02:22
Linux_Galoreman I totally love my N810 with canola 2 (media player)02:23
XcellTomorrow..bring the modem and sys with you..k?02:23
Linux_Galoregot my holidays coming up so i can take some movies that I havent watched yet and sit on the beach and relaxe02:23
deurytelet me try a little more 1st02:23
Linux_Galore?modem02:24
Xcellk stand bye...ask ardchoille he can help.02:24
deuryteserial modems are the only way !!!02:24
Linux_Galoregod no, not dial up I hope02:24
deuryteif u saw where i lived, youde be concidered rich to have even that02:25
Xcellardchoille:  I put brand new Kubuntu using high speed..he took it home and has dial up.02:25
ardchoilleeeewww @ dialup02:25
* ardchoille knows nothing about dialup02:25
Linux_Galoredeuryte: Im spoilt I must admit 22mb connection02:25
deuryteyum, yum. he he he i luv dial up!!02:25
XcellHe has no choice ardchoille.02:25
Linux_GaloreXcell: satelite02:26
XcellPlease walk him through it.thanks02:26
jaz_umm hi02:26
Linux_GaloreI spent 20 years on dialup, never will I go back02:27
Linux_Galore1200 baud terminal connections argh!02:27
Linux_Galorehai jaz02:27
deurytemine is 1201...02:27
deurytegot the hi speed dial up/02:27
Linux_Galoreheh02:28
jaz_i just got Kubuntu Running ^-^02:28
Linux_GaloreI remember my first 56K modem, I saved up for a month02:28
Xcelldeu: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s06.html02:28
deuryte402:28
Linux_Galorejaz_: welcome to freedom02:28
Linux_Galoresomeone should create a "So you have installed Kubuntu what now" howto02:29
jaz_lol02:29
jaz_im trying to update my Graphics driver atm02:30
XcellDeu is my physical brother, be nice or i will......you know..lol.02:30
Linux_Galorejaz_: I used envy02:30
Linux_Galore!envy02:30
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »02:30
ardchoille!nvy02:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi02:30
deurytexcell, site didnt diclose enough, will be searching........02:30
jaz_Envy?02:31
Xcellk02:31
Xcelldeu: google (dailup) kubuntu.02:31
deurytew2ktu rocks02:31
Linux_Galorejaz_: install envy  ksudo apt-get install envy  then run it  with ksudo envy02:32
jaz_ok, ill check it out02:32
Linux_Galorejaz_: it install ati/nvidia drivers for you02:32
Linux_Galoreinstalls02:33
jaz_ok kewl thnks for the tip02:33
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Linux_Galorejaz_:  actuall you need to type ksudo envy -g02:34
Linux_Galoreactually*02:34
Linux_Galorejaz_: that will give you the easy to use graphical installer02:35
nosrednaekimno! do NOT use envy!02:35
nosrednaekim!envy02:35
ubotuenvy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »02:35
Xcelldeuryte: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/connect-modems.html#dialup-config02:35
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: Ive used it heaps of times with no issues02:35
nosrednaekim!worksforme02:35
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/02:35
Linux_Galorenosrednaekim: On different platforms02:36
deurytenice one !!  ill try that one out !!  xcell02:37
Xcellk02:37
Xcellhey..do my full nic so I can hear you when im busy02:37
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deurytexcell.  was that it?02:38
NIXPIXhey guys i have a question i have no clue where to start...i installed the ATI 200m driver into my feisty64 bit02:38
NIXPIXand when i have special effects...ex shutdown...screen goes grey02:38
deuryteoh, i woulndt of done that02:38
Xcelldom as it asks..then we will go from there02:38
NIXPIXit gives me these 2 glitch bars...02:39
NIXPIXon thee bottom right of my screen02:39
NIXPIXthere about an inch long...and about an inch apart from eachother...02:39
NIXPIXi tryed screencapturing it...and it didnt show up on the picture02:39
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: did you enable compiz in your xorg file ?02:40
NIXPIXhow do i check02:40
Linux_Galorecat /etc/X11/xorg.conf  should be right on the end of the file02:41
Xcelldeuryte: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kppp/index.html02:41
deuryte402:41
NIXPIXlike its just there...same spot...everytime...it doesnt impead anything i do...but i am unable now to go into like...desplay manager..in system settings02:41
Linux_Galoresection "Extensions"   option         "Composite" "Disable" EndSection02:41
deuryteactually, it already has that in it...  the hand book. i just saw it before i gave up, ill go back to it later.02:42
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  you should see "Enable"02:42
NIXPIXat the top02:43
Xcellk  if U want to..bring back and ill get it working k?02:43
NIXPIXo srry end02:43
Xcelltomorrow.02:43
NIXPIXi see extentions composite enable02:43
deurytebi-nutu........  for those who like it both ways....02:43
NIXPIXso i set it to disable02:43
NIXPIX?02:43
deuryte402:43
Xcellk02:43
XcellDo not do any sys settings..do not.02:44
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: no enable if you want effect disable if you dont02:44
deurytexcell  ok, but for now, you too can read up on it, the kppp handbook is factory...02:44
NIXPIXi dont have compiz02:44
NIXPIXi just want to watch my movies in open gl02:44
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  then disable it02:44
XcellI have..tomorrow U will be happy..just vring the modem (with) you..k?02:45
Xcellbring02:45
XcellAnd dont gorget the cables.02:45
deuryte402:45
NIXPIXeffects...like...transparacy02:45
XcellDid boot the monitor ok?02:45
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Linux_GaloreI find compiz sucks for video playing02:45
nosrednaekimindeed02:46
NIXPIXso that graying effect is gone...when composit= disable02:46
deuryteit didnt need any changes, i tryd but it kept same settings...02:46
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: yes02:46
NIXPIXhmm...02:46
NIXPIXand transparacy02:46
NIXPIXof my windows02:46
Xcellnice..U r fine then..bring tomorrow and we will settle things..02:46
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  transparency is there just not the effects02:47
NIXPIXo02:47
XcellNuff said.02:47
NIXPIXso if i want to disable do i need a capital letter02:47
NIXPIXis it Disable...or just disable02:47
Zabulusdamned, my mouse just froze...02:47
deurytewhat do you think it is??  it queries and finds the modem, but when i attempt to dial out, it doesnt go any further than to initialize.....02:47
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: I think it works either way02:47
NIXPIXok...so how do i test to see if that solved the prob02:48
XcellIt has to be configured...tomorrow..not now.02:48
Zabulusok, how do i stop my mouse from freezing?02:48
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  press ctrl alt backspace02:48
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: that will restart the xserver02:49
NIXPIXkkk...brb02:49
neoGuys I am running kubuntu 7.10 with 512mb ram and right now i have Konversation open with dual monitor setup and the number of free ram memory is 112mb(22%). Is it normal because my system is going slow and is it due to dualhead?02:51
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NIXPIXum..i tryed disable as well as Disable02:51
NIXPIXand i still get thise bars02:51
NIXPIXand i still get the grey effects02:51
NIXPIXwhere it greys down...when you go to shutdown02:52
Linux_Galoreneo: no looks like you have something sucking up your ram  run ksudo ksysguard02:52
nyork@neo yep.. try ksysguard. it will show what is eating up your resources02:52
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: thats not a compiz effect02:52
NIXPIXo02:53
hrp2171seasons greetings!  need help!  how do i become root during live cd session?  need to recover some files off a laptop.  thank you.02:53
NIXPIXi still get the bars02:53
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: thats been around for years02:53
NIXPIXo02:53
NIXPIXlike...i just need to know where to start searching for an answer02:53
nyorkhrp2171: root of the installed system or root of the livecd?02:54
Zabulusok, i need help, my mouse keeps freezing, i thought it was fixed, but, apparently not02:54
neoIs VMsize the size of the memory an app be using?02:54
NIXPIXlike...its so incredibly strange...02:54
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: the bars I suspect are an error in your setup ie refresh/resolution is out fo sync02:54
Linux_Galoreof*02:54
NIXPIXand?02:54
hrp2171become root while using the live cd.  the laptop's drive won't boot and need to recover some files off from it.  ive already mounted the partition but cant see inside it.02:54
NIXPIXchange desktop size02:54
NIXPIX?02:54
adamonline45Is there a way to adjust gamma or overall screen brightness?02:55
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  well I usually just run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:55
NIXPIXthat SHOULD fix...or tell me whats wrong02:55
Xcelldeu: I am in another room say my full nic when needed.02:55
Xcelldeuryte02:55
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: that allows you to play with the settings, its a helper app02:56
neoGuys there are so  many processes in Ksysguard, what to do?02:56
nyorkneo: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?02:56
NIXPIXo02:56
hrp2171ran sudo mount /dev/sda1 to-mount-point but the ubuntu live cd user cant cd into it02:56
NIXPIXxserver driver...02:56
NIXPIXuhh02:56
Zabulusneed help, my mouse keeps on freezing up02:56
NIXPIXwhat do i say to that02:56
neoIts  not live its installed on my hdd.02:56
neoyes its Kubuntu02:56
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: it should show a list of drivers02:56
NIXPIXso what do i pic02:56
NIXPIXpick02:56
deurytexcell02:56
NIXPIXfglrx02:57
NIXPIX?02:57
nyorkhrp2171: what live cd are you using? kubuntu?02:57
sub[t]rnladamonline45: System settings -> monitors -> color & gamma.  (and the actual monitor of course)02:57
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX: what ever suites your card02:57
Xcellya02:57
NIXPIXi have an ati 200m02:57
hrp21716.06LTS Kubuntu.  also the hd partition is mounted ntfs rw02:57
nyorkneo: try killing some of the process...02:57
Linux_GaloreNIXPIX:  fglrx sounds right, if you get it wrong you can run the command again02:58
hrp2171i tried su - but no password works to switch to root access.02:58
Zabulusneed help, my mouse keeps on freezing up, can anyone assist me?02:58
neoCan I list say five or ten processes name here at a time and you can tell me which ones to kill?02:58
ardchoillehrp2171: You don't need su, use sudo02:58
nyorkhrp2171: try sudo su02:58
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NIXPIXthis might help...when i installed the gl driver from restricted drivers manager02:59
hrp2171awesome nyork02:59
nyorkneo: yep.. let's try..02:59
NIXPIXit didnt have this problem02:59
hrp2171thanks02:59
ardchoillenyork: That's not recommended nor supported.02:59
nosrednaekimZabulus: started happening again?02:59
nyorkhrp2171: you are the root user now? :-)02:59
Zabulusyep...02:59
Zabulusi was doing different stuff, tried to go to myspace, and it froze03:00
hrp2171ardchoille: im using the live cd to recover some files off my niece's laptop because the drive won't boot anymore.03:00
nosrednaekimZabulus: any clue at all what you did? do a "dmesg" see if the kernel is doing something.03:00
Linux_Galoresudo -c  is not to be used unless you have your head screwed on03:00
neoacpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd03:00
Zabulusseems like it happens when the computer is loading something03:00
ardchoillesudo is all that is needed. Been using it for years and haven't needed anyting else03:00
hrp2171Linux_Galore: i know how to run with scissors  LOL03:00
deurytexcell03:01
Zabulusummmm, dmesg has a nice long output03:01
Kr4t05VOICE ME NIGGERS03:01
Linux_Galoreardchoille: depends, I often have long admin sessions and sudo can be annoying03:01
Xcellya03:01
nyorkneo: list all process not only those for the user03:01
deurytethe "j" room is now back open...03:01
nosrednaekimZabulus: just look at the last 20 lines or so( if you haven't rebooted since your mouse froze)03:02
neoIts all, should I list enter more now.03:02
Xcelllol b right there.03:02
polo2sources.list.save is a backup of the original sources.list?03:02
Xcelllol not 4 me.03:02
Linux_Galoreardchoille: for 5 minute admin sessions sudo is fine but for reconfiguring apache or mysql on a server forget it03:02
nosrednaekimpolo2: maybe.03:02
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Zabulusam i looking for something specific? im too new to linux...03:03
ardchoilleLinux_Galore: sudo vim apache2.conf?03:03
polo2maybe? is posible not?03:03
nyorkneo: in the process table tab .... you can use the list all processes drop down...03:03
Linux_Galoreardchoille: 1 file, now the other few thousand root only files I have03:03
adamonline45sub[t]rnl: Alright cool, thank you!  My color still doesn't match a gif I made in gimp when viewed from my windows computer...03:03
RobertoM_[away]Linux_Galore: maybe you miss sudo -s ? :-)03:04
RobertoM_[away]The real problem with sudo is that if you mess with your hostname, you're out of your PC03:04
Linux_Galoreyeah sorry typo sudo -s03:05
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Linux_Galoresigh, to many command flags03:05
deurytexcell, non responding03:05
mcrandellois -s similar to -i?03:05
Xcellya  I cant go.lol03:06
Zabulusnosrednaekim: am i looking for something specific?03:06
nyorkmcrandello: -s: shows sizes with -l. -l only show long list format03:07
nosrednaekimZabulus: anything to do with USB or mouse03:07
nosrednaekimZabulus: did you reboot since it froze last?03:07
Zabulusnope03:07
RobertoM_[away]mcrandello: (if you where talking about sudo :-) ) similar but not the same. -s only starts a shell in the current dir, -i simulates a login for the root user03:08
Zabulusi dont see anything about usb or mouse...03:08
Linux_Galoresudo -i  changes the user variable -s doesnt ie $PATH etc03:08
nosrednaekimZabulus: soo how are you working without a mouse?03:08
Zabulusalt+tab and what not03:09
RobertoM_[away]4am... time to go to sleep for me ^^'  good night to all03:09
mcrandelloRobertoM_[away]: so then -s would be a lot handier in a lot of instances where I don't want to change dirs to /root03:09
mcrandello(night)03:09
nosrednaekimZabulus: lol, ok....try doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look at the last 20 or so lines of that for anything relating to mouse or input03:09
hrp2171thanks guys.  worked wonderfully.03:09
Xcelldeuryte03:10
deuryteyo03:10
Linux_Galoremcrandello: yes if you what to stick to your admin user variables -s is better03:10
Xcellwhats up03:10
ardchoilletail -lines 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:10
deurytepondering modemic epidemic03:10
neoacpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd dbus-daemon dcopserver dd dhsdbd dhclient events/0 getty hald hald-addon-acpi hald-addon-keyb  hald-addon-stor hald-runner hcid init kaccess kacpid kacpi_notify katapult kblockd/0 kblueplugd kded kdeinit kdesktop kdm khelper khubd kicker kinfocenter kio_file kio_uiserver kjournald klauncher klipper klogd kmix knetworkmanager knotify kondemand/0 konqueror konsole konversation kpsmoused03:10
neokrfcommd kseriod ksmserver ksoftirqd/0 ksuspend_usbd kswapd0 ksysguard ksysguardd kthreadd kwin kwrapper migration/0 NetworkManager NetworkManagerD pdflush scsi_eh_0 scsi_eh_1 sh ssh-agent start_kdeinit syslogd udevd watchdog/0 Xorg s-session-manag03:10
ardchoilleoops, should be --lines03:10
Zabulusyeah, pretty much everything i can see has to do with input/mouse03:11
nosrednaekimZabulus: can you pastebin it?03:11
neoWell these are all of the processes, which one to stop and how03:11
Zabulusummm, not really03:11
Linux_Galoreneo: in ksysguard ?03:11
nosrednaekimZabulus: you registered? if so...PM me and paste it there03:11
neoyes03:11
nyorkneo: you can sort these processes such that it is arranged from process intensive to lesser03:12
Linux_Galoreneo: select it then stop it with the button down the bottom03:12
Zabulusok, but it might take a while, and it might be a mess03:12
neoVMsize?03:12
nyorkneo; just click the "System%" on top03:12
nosrednaekimthat looks like alphabetic neo03:12
sub[t]rnlhtop ftw03:13
Xcelloi.03:13
nyorkneo: with sorted processes you will know which is eating up your resources....03:13
Linux_Galoreneo: click on the vmsize column that should show what is sucking up your ram03:13
neook03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: dont kill xorg03:14
neook03:14
neoxorg is taking up 9703:14
ardchoillesub[t]rnl: Yes, htop is awesome03:14
Xcellya htop rocks03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: xorg is your graphical interface03:14
Linux_Galoreneo: 97 in what column ?03:15
neoI don't know which process I need and which I don't thats why l listed all of them to see if you can see which ones not right.03:15
neoVmSize column03:15
neokonversation is 6203:16
Linux_Galoreneo: go down one at a time starting from the top03:16
neook03:16
sub[t]rnlardchoille you just like it cause your a cli junky03:16
* sub[t]rnl ducks03:16
Xcelllol03:16
ardchoilleIndeed :)03:16
neoVmSize is in order 0 to 9703:16
path_hi there03:17
Xcellhi there 203:17
path_having issues upgrading to gutsy03:17
Linux_Galoreneo: I just need the first 5 thats were the probem will exist03:17
sub[t]rnl:p03:17
path_ /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu2_all.deb03:17
path_trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz', which is also in package vim-common03:17
path_:\03:17
Xcelloi03:17
Linux_Galoreproblem*03:17
neoyou mean the five highest in the VmSize column03:17
nyorkneo: yup03:17
Linux_Galoreneo: yep, if its sucking up that much ram it will be up the top03:18
Linux_Galorein vmsize03:18
Linux_Galorewithin the first 5-10  but normall the first 503:18
Linux_Galorenormally*03:19
nyorkpath: try sudo rm /usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz. then run your upgrade again03:19
neoThen its Xorg-97 konversation-62 kdesktop-53 kinfocenter-47 kicker-38 konqueror-38 artsd-37 kded-3503:19
Linux_Galoreneo: looks normal03:19
neoIs it possible that there might be spyware running03:20
Xcelloi03:20
Xcellnozi03:20
Linux_Galoreneo: not on Linux03:20
nyorkneo: Linux_Galore is right.. it is not possible in GNU/Linux03:20
Linux_Galoreneo: with Linux you have to "intentionally" install spyware03:20
path_nyork same error03:20
neoShould I list the rest that are in double figures?03:21
Linux_Galoreneo: if you want, could be you have too much crud running, it does add up03:21
neocrud?03:21
Linux_Galoreneo: applets/monitors etc03:21
ardchoilleneo: How much ram do you have?>03:22
neoI migrated to Linux few days back and I don't even know how to properly setup my desktop let alone set 'crud'!03:22
neo512mb03:22
Linux_Galoreneo: on my machine firefox is consuming 207mb and right under that is xorg03:22
path_locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory03:23
Linux_Galore512mb is cutting it a bit thin these days03:23
path_WTF ?03:23
neook should I increase the ram03:23
path_I cant install anything :shock:03:23
Xcelldeuryte03:24
ardchoilleneo: One thing you could do is kill konqueror if you don't use it much. I'm not sure why the devs made d3lphin the default fm and then left 2 konq procs running all the time.03:24
Linux_Galorepath_: I had the same bug a while back in feisty03:24
neohow do I kill a process?03:24
Xcelldeuryte03:24
path_Linux_Galore and you fixed it ?03:25
deurytesup03:25
Linux_Galoreneo: right click on the process then click on the [KILL] button down the bottom03:25
Xcellalt+f2+kppp03:25
nyorkpath: they have this thread in ubuntu forum.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167504&highlight=VIM03:25
Linux_Galorepath_: yes, Im trying to remember how, it was a package script bug03:25
neothere is no kill option03:25
deurytewhat is that??03:26
nyorkpath: i just don't know if that will also work for you..03:26
nosrednaekimlol03:26
nosrednaekim<Zabulus> ok, now, how do i do that? (forgive my ignorance)03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+backspace..03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] <nosrednaekim> its ok :D03:26
nosrednaekim[22:26] [Error] Zabulus: No such nick/channel.03:26
Xcellbocopy your connection statistics on paper..and boot kubuntu and press alt+f2  and put (kppp) and enter info03:26
Linux_Galorepath_: I have the feeling it was ripping kde out and putting it back that fixed it03:27
path_nyork It worked :D03:27
nyorkpath,Linux_Galore: hope you did not experience the hal errors during the upgrade ...03:27
deurytebocopy ??03:27
Xcellcopy03:27
Linux_Galorenyork: lol, no03:27
nyorkpath: awesome..03:28
path_nyork at this point nope03:28
path_yet having issues with locales03:28
Xcellright click on your Ubuntu network screen thingy and copy stats03:28
niteriderIIhi yall03:28
deuryteconnection statistics, where are these??03:28
Linux_Galoreneo: did you run ksysguard   ie sudo ksysguard03:28
ardchoilleNever run a gui app with sudo. use kdesudo03:28
nyorknyork: i have to do a clean install of gutsy rather than an upgrade due to those errors.. that was a few days after the release.. i got my lesson.. upgrade after a month..03:28
ardchoille!kdesudo03:28
niteriderIIi need some help for kubuntu concerning a synaptics touch pad03:28
ubotuIn KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)03:28
Xcellbottom right..click on the small computer screen03:29
neoyes and I found the kill button, I was looking for it in the context menu(that how I did it in windows)03:29
Linux_Galoreneo: I did say "down the bottom"03:29
neoSorry and thanks, so would you suggest I should get more ram?03:30
deuryteit just showed connection speed and ip address.. no data there for modem configs03:30
neoYa sorry, my mistake.03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: yeah, I added another 512meg on the last update03:30
Xcellsystem.network settings..go from there03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: mainly sue to firefox sucking up my ram03:30
Linux_Galoredue*03:30
Xcellsys admin.net settings03:30
Linux_Galoreneo: 512m of ram is dirt cheap right now03:31
neoYa it does that and I am definitely upping my ram03:31
path_Need to get 583MB/597MB of archives.03:31
neoI have p3 I wonder if it supports 1g ram03:31
path_thats pretty nice03:31
deuryte403:31
Xcellk03:31
Linux_Galoreneo: firefox 3 is fixing the ram problem03:31
Linux_GaloreI think firefox 3 is on the repo too03:32
neothat would be nice and I can't wait to use it, I love FF.03:32
nyorkpath: so you are continuing the upgrade..?03:33
path_yep doing an dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 I guess03:33
posingaspopularhey all, any way to transfer an .avi file to an ipodvideo?03:33
path_gutsy if Im not mistaken nyork ?03:33
deurytethe configs on this setup are no where near the same.........03:33
nyorkneo: i think it do support 1gb...03:33
Xcellk03:33
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: hmm there is a kde app that does that, hold on let me get the link03:33
ubuntuHola.. Quien habla español???03:34
posingaspopular!es03:34
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:34
neoWell guys thanks, esp. Linux_Galore. I wish someday I could help others with Linux and be like you guys. You rock.03:34
Xcellboot kubuntu and press alt+f2 and enter kppp...se ya there/03:34
nyorkpath: 7.10 is gutsy...03:34
neoLove you, love FF, love linux and love Open Source.03:34
deuryteon ubuntu, all i had to do was get it to look at the modem, set it up with name and #... it took off.........03:34
n1ghtm4r3Hellloooo everybody03:34
Xcell^03:34
deuryte403:34
deurytebrb in 10 if fail03:35
Xcellk03:35
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Hyper+Video+Converter?content=6778103:35
posingaspopularthank Linux_Galore. i know it's possible, but i dont know the exact infomation03:35
ubuntuGracias ubotu03:35
Xcellubotu smart03:35
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager03:35
Xcelloi03:35
* Linux_Galore is collecting karma +1 bits for xmas03:36
Xcelllol03:36
posingaspopularthanks03:37
Linux_GaloreI tried smart, total crap03:37
XcellIt wasent ment 2 be..lol03:37
* Linux_Galore mv smart stupid03:37
Xcellhiccup!03:38
larrywellshow do you mount cdrom03:39
nosrednaekimlarrywells: "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt"03:40
awaganyone here have experience with sudden system freezes in gutsy?03:40
Xcellbeat it to death....j/k03:40
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: this is even better and its ipod specific http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Avi+2+iPod+%2B+PSP+%28mp4%29?content=569103:41
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: this I have used it works pretty well and even loads the file onto the ipod afterwards http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/thin+liquid+film?content=5167803:43
n1ghtm4r3alright this is weird03:43
n1ghtm4r3i just reinstalled Kubuntu , completly03:44
Xcellnice03:44
Xcellnow fix it.03:44
n1ghtm4r3i installed Kubuntu restricted stuff03:44
n1ghtm4r3flash still dont work ... wtf03:44
Xcelland03:44
Xcellopen the ff browser and go to a known flash site and it will prompt you03:45
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: be careful there are two versions of flash on the repo make sure you install the adobe one03:45
n1ghtm4r3xcell: i dont have firefox03:45
Xcellinstall it..it will work universally..do it from add remove/internet03:46
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: ie install flash-plugin-nonfree03:46
Dr_willisis that bug/md5 issue with flash still going on?03:46
n1ghtm4r3it keeps saying me that another process is using the database ... WTF03:47
Linux_Galorewell I dont have any flash issues03:47
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: do you have an other adept sessions open ?03:48
n1ghtm4r3Linux_galore: not realy03:48
Linux_Galoreanother*03:48
Linux_Galoren1ghtm4r3: it wont allows two sessions03:48
Xcelln1ghtm4r3: ..do a (sudo apt get update..when error appears do this..03:49
Xcell!aptfix03:49
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:49
posingaspopularLinux_Galore: i have this msg:  You are not using "bash" as your default shell.  This is most likely because you are using Ubuntu which links the default shell to the "dash" shell.  See http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=59 on how to fix this.  thinliquidfilm won't work properly unless you fix this.03:49
posingaspopularany idae?03:49
posingaspopularwill it matter?03:49
rob_all aptitude related programs will not acess the internet, how do I fix this?03:50
Xcell!aptfix03:50
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »03:50
rob_that's not the problem03:50
Xcelloh03:50
Dr_willishow to fix it? heh tghe fix is for them to do their shell scripts right. :)03:50
hydrogenposingaspopular: see the link in the message you pasted?03:50
rob_the aptitude programs function correctly03:50
rob_just they won't acess the internet03:50
rob_I can reinstall programs who's packages have already been downloaded03:51
hydrogenalthough their justificationis are a bit not at all right03:51
rob_I can uninstall programs03:51
Dr_willisthat 'fix' for fixing dash/bash is totally wrong  in its 'reasons'03:51
hydrogenyes03:51
rob_but apdept manager, apt-get, adept updater, aptitude, etc will not access the internet03:52
rob_can anyone help me?03:52
Dr_willisand its wrong in how to propely set /bin/sh to be bash. :003:52
XcellDr_willis: it is a fix for those just starting..and will allow them to continue.03:52
hydrogenno03:52
Dr_willisXcell,  yes. but theres  the proper way to fix it.. then there his changes03:52
hydrogenit is a broken03:52
Dr_willis!dash03:52
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash03:52
XcellDr_willis:  post the fix then.03:52
Dr_willisHeh that factoid has a typo also.03:52
hydrogen /bin/sh is required to be a posix shell03:53
Dr_willisif the script uses BASH then it shoudl call bash with #!/bin/bash   NOT #!/bin/sh03:53
hydrogennot a bash shell03:53
rob_#room03:53
rob_ok so can anyone help me?03:53
Dr_willisthe scripts are using 'bash' features - which do not exist in sh.03:53
rob_this is a serious problem... I was thinking of reinstalling linux but then I'd have to start from scratch and I'd rather not do that03:53
XcellNicely done03:54
XcellDr_willis:03:54
rob_!adept03:54
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto03:54
Dr_willisthe proper way to change dash to bash is ---->  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash03:54
XcellBut: beginners cant get that far and are not afforded that info on a daily basis.03:54
hydrogenXcell: so the scripts need to behave properly03:55
Dr_willisXcell,  totally wrong.. that sites fix had them doing all sorts of things...03:55
Dr_willissudo dpkg-reconfigure dash   --> asks a Simple YES/NO03:55
rob_HELP03:55
hydrogenrob_: be patient03:55
Dr_willisthe true fix is for the scripts to quit relying on the bash 'bug' of allowing bash features when called as sh.03:55
rob_ok ok hydrogen I'll hold on03:55
Xcellk03:55
Dr_willisrob,  does 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' work?03:55
XcellBut like I said: Beginners who come here dont get that info readily.03:56
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: I found it didnt ,atter03:56
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: matter*03:56
XcellI never seen it till U just posted it Dr_willis03:56
Dr_willisXcell,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash  = - is much more clear then their fix.. and the script writers need to be told of the bug in their script.03:56
hydrogenXcell: they do if the friendly people who answer questions answer it03:56
hydrogen!dash shows it properly03:57
Dr_willisXcell,  when they first did the dash change. there was a lot of scriopts that got broke.03:57
Xcellhydrogen: That is a rarity.03:57
Dr_willismost of them that i know are now fixed.03:57
Linux_Galoreposingaspopular: easy to change the default back to bash though sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash03:57
Dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh explains the reasons and  issues.03:57
XcellThanks Dr_willis.03:58
XcellThat should be the fix that ubotu should show.03:58
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Dr_willisThe fix at the liquid weather site.. leads me to belive the guy dident research the dash   program/problem very much.  :)03:59
Dr_willisyea theres a typo in the bots factoid it seems03:59
Dr_willis!dash03:59
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash03:59
XcellDr_willis:  U have experience..beginners do not..have a little mercy.03:59
posingaspopularah i see.. thanks guys03:59
Dr_willisThats  the 'core' of the bugs with lots of scripts.. but theres other things to watch for.03:59
posingaspopularit doesn't matter atm because ubutnu decided to not see or mount my ipod again. whatever i'll deal with this some other time04:00
Dr_willisXcell,  i dident make the incorrect howto at that site. Im jut explaining how its wrong.04:00
Xcellk04:00
XcellMy apologizies04:00
Dr_willisi was about to post to their forum to give them the proper info.. but i aint going to register for that. :)04:00
XcellDont blame ya04:00
Zombocomok this is rob_04:01
Zombocomsomeone just kicked me off of that nickname04:01
hanzouHi, I am trying to use doxygen w/ default options.04:01
hanzouIt generates colored code html...04:01
gabriel__Hi from Mexico04:01
XcellZomb: bill gates is atching you.04:01
hanzoubut no function lists or classlists. How do I get it to do the cool stuff?04:01
Xcellwatching04:02
Zombocomthis nick is registered to me04:02
n1ghtm4r3wow i think my conection is angry at me lol04:02
Zombocomso Bill Gates can't to crap to me04:02
Zombocomexuse my french04:02
Xcelllol04:02
Xcellj/k Zomb.04:02
n1ghtm4r3Tu parle français Zombocom?04:03
XcellDr_willis: Could I enter that info and continue as is right now?04:03
Linux_GaloreI have an old machine running winxp, mainly so I can connect some of my weird portable devices04:03
Linux_Galoremy desktop is Linyx04:03
Zombocomdamint I'm having more and more odd problems04:03
Linux_GaloreLinux*04:03
XcellZombocom: U on 64 bit?04:04
Dr_willisXcell,  i got it straight from  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh , its the 'proper' way to set /bin/sh to be bash or dash on a ubuntu system. :)04:04
Zombocomyes Xcell as a matter of fact I am04:04
Xcellk Dr_willis thanks man.04:04
Linux_GaloreI must admit though I rarely use the winXP machine for connecting stuff anymore04:05
SuprUsrDoes anyone know of command that would display the file size of an entire directory?04:05
Dr_willisand i Have edited some of those wiki pages. :)   not many but some.04:05
XcellGood job.04:05
Linux_Galorethere is a weird way of transfering video file to your ipod, use Amarok, Im not kidding it works04:06
XcellZombocom: I used the 32 bit kubuntu to avoid problems when learning linux..that was a personal decision.04:06
ZombocomI'm not really learning04:06
Zombocomnormally I can maintain a system pretty well04:06
Linux_Galoreonly down side is it doesnt name the file properly on the ipod04:06
Zombocomit's when stuff like this happens04:06
ZombocomI'm going to uninstall something that I think could be at fault here04:07
Linux_Galorebut you can see the video file on the ipod and play it04:07
XcellDo the 32 bit thing..you will be much happier.04:07
NickPrestaSuprUsr, du -c --si -max-depth=0 DIR `man du` for more information04:07
Zombocomthis wouldn't be that big an annoyance had I not just uninstalled kdm04:07
Dr_willisSuprUsr,  'du -hs' is what i often use in a dir04:07
Zombocomby a freak accident04:07
Zombocom!aptfix04:08
ubotuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »04:08
Linux_GaloreI find sudo dpkg --configure -a on its own works most of the time04:09
NickPrestaSuprUsr, listen to Dr_willis. I forgot about "summarize" :)04:09
deurytexcell04:09
Xcellya04:10
Dr_willisheh heh..04:10
SuprUsrDr_willis: Thanks.04:10
Dr_willisMy Bash Prompt shows me the amount of Files in the current dir. :)04:10
SuprUsrAnyway to concactenate the "music04:10
SuprUsr?04:10
Dr_williswillis@MythBox:~(2650.329 Mb)$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash04:10
deuryteno go, keeps hangin in the initialize state. then drops out after 1.5 min04:10
Dr_willissee i got 2650 mb in that dir. :)04:10
SuprUsrI just want a number and k/m/GB04:11
Xcellk bring tomorrow afternoon and will fix.04:11
Dr_willisdu -hs --->  du -hs04:12
Dr_willis194G    .04:12
Dr_williswow i got a lot of G's04:12
deurytethere seems to be no modem commands in the modem command screen.....04:12
SuprUsrDr_willis: It prints out "24G<tab>music"04:12
XcellDr_willis: Please walk deuryte so he can use dialup on kubuntu..thanks.04:13
SuprUsrCan I use grep to trim out the "<tab>music"?04:13
deurytei also looked for the kppp wizard.  it didnt have one04:13
deurytethe kppp handbook said it did.  didnt see it04:14
Zombocomcrap04:15
XcellDeuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.04:16
Zombocom!linux04:16
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux04:16
Dr_willisi aint used a modem in years...04:16
Zombocom!gnu/linux04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnu/linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Dr_willis:)04:16
Zombocomsomeone needs to fix that04:16
Zombocom!gnu\linux04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnu\linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Zombocomuh oh04:16
Zombocom!gnu04:16
ubotuG(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org04:16
deuryte404:16
SuprUsr!botabuse04:16
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.04:16
Zombocomok ok04:16
Xcell!kppp04:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi04:16
Xcell!dialup04:17
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:17
Zombocomaptitude will not acess the internet still04:17
ZombocomI uninstalled a program called anon-proxy in the hopes that it was the culprit04:17
deuryteKNetworkManager??  where is that??04:17
Xcell!KNetworkManager04:18
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up04:18
Dr_willis just installing a proxy wouldent set everything to be using that proxy04:18
Dr_willisZombocom,  but other apps work?04:18
ZombocomDr_willis: I'm connected to irc through the same operating system, so I assume so04:18
Dr_willisZombocom,  how about the web browser?04:19
ZombocomDr_willis also pidgin and Konqueror work04:19
Dr_willisHmm..04:19
Dr_willisso if you do a 'sudo apt-get install mc'   what happens?04:19
XcellDeuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it.04:20
hanzouHow do I get doxygen to list functions & classes & variables? By default it seems to only color-code source files.04:20
ZombocomE: Couldn't find package mc04:20
Zombocomthat's what I get04:20
deuryte2604:20
Dr_willisZombocom,  ok. and try a 'sudo apt-get update'04:21
Zombocomthis is the full output Dr_willis:04:21
ZombocomReading package lists... Done04:21
ZombocomBuilding dependency tree04:21
ZombocomReading state information... Done04:21
ZombocomE: Couldn't find package mc04:21
hydrogen!pastebin04:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:21
deurytew2ktu......04:21
Dr_willisThat was it? it dident spit out a lot of messages?04:22
Xcellnot04:22
Zombocomit spit out a lot of messages04:22
Zombocomtwo lines of which is04:22
ZombocomErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg04:22
Zombocom  Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused)04:22
Dr_willisAHA! thats a clue!04:22
Dr_willisit is trying to connect to localhost, thus does seem set to be using some sort of proxy04:22
deurytew3.1tu....04:22
XcellDr_willis: Take a hike.04:22
Zombocomok ok I'll restart linux04:23
ZombocomI just got rid of a program called anon-proxy04:23
Zombocomwhat else should I be looking for?04:23
Zombocoma firewall program?04:23
SuprUsrDoes anyone have an idea on how to trim the directory label the output of du -hs?04:24
sakthianhi04:24
deurytez---zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz   whoa??  ok, ok  im awake.........04:24
SuprUsrCurrently, it prints "<filesize><tab><directorylabel>",  want only "<filesize>"04:24
Dr_willisZombocom,  im curious as to if some how your apt settings got set to use a proxy.04:25
sakthianhow to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system04:25
ZombocomDr_willis: I installed anon-proxy and another program called smproxy04:25
Dr_willisZombocom,  check the /etc/apt/sources.list file  , see if they have some entrys that mention 4001 and so forth..04:25
Dr_willisZombocom,  yea. but i dont think just installing a proxy server would edit the system settings like that.04:26
Zombocomoh shit...04:26
ZombocomI'm introuble04:26
Xcelllool keep lisrening to Dr_willis..lol04:27
Zombocomalmost everything is gone04:27
Zombocomin the systems part of the kicker04:27
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Zombocomoh god04:27
Xcellenjoy.04:28
ZombocomXcell...04:28
Zombocomwhat happened04:28
Xcellya04:28
Zombocomadept_manager is gone04:28
Zombocomadept_updater is gone04:28
maduser...............04:28
maduserwow um...04:29
Zombocomthis program shouldn't even exist04:29
maduseryeah...04:29
Xcellsudo apt-get touch /forcefsck   and re boot to make files repaired.04:29
XcellThats all I know.04:29
Zombocominvalid operation touch04:29
Xcelloi04:30
Dr_willisThat sounds bad Zombocom  -    You dont have anything super imporntant on the system do ya?04:30
Dr_willisIf so i'd be backing up stuff right now.04:30
ZombocomDr_willis not really...04:30
Zombocomstarcraft is on this drive though...04:30
ZombocomI kinda like starcraft04:30
Xcellpush the reset buton..hurry04:30
Dr_willis'sudo toucn /forcefsck' i think is the right command.04:30
Xcelllol04:30
Dr_willis'sudo touch /forcefsck' i think is the right command.04:30
Zombocomno returns04:31
Zombocomgeesus04:31
Zombocomjeesus04:31
Dr_willisthat makes a file on the / that  will make the system check the filesystem on next boot.. if no error came out.. thats good.04:31
Xcelljust reboot and enter it and reboot..no worries04:31
Zombocomlol04:31
Zombocomok this is bad04:31
Zombocomdo I shut down normally?04:31
Dr_willisnot as bad as it first sounded..04:31
Dr_willis:)04:31
XcellRe boot dont be silly04:31
Zombocomok have linux shutdown or do I just do an unclean reboot04:32
Xcellyour sys is adjar...reboot04:32
Dr_willisjust have it reboot04:32
Zombocomlol04:32
sakthian how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system04:32
SuprUsr!source04:32
ubotuYou can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:32
SuprUsrOh, wait.04:32
Dr_willissakthian,  why are you installing xmms from source in the first place?04:32
Dr_willis!info xmms04:33
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB04:33
SuprUsrOld version?04:33
Zombocomok 1 or 2... 1 as in hold down shutdown untill system powers off by force or 2 enter sudo shutdown -r now in the terminal04:33
Dr_willisxmms  is not that old. :)04:33
SuprUsrWell, I dunno?04:33
SuprUsrAnyway.04:33
Dr_willisxmms IS old.. i mean.. and its proberly best to  start using some other tools.. :) but the version in the repo is not that old from the one he has.04:33
SuprUsrDr_willis: How do you trim out the directory name when you run "du -hs"04:33
Xcellsudo shutdown -r now04:33
Zombocomkk04:34
Dr_willisSuprUsr,  what dir name?04:34
Dr_willisdu -hs04:34
Dr_willis80K     .04:34
Dr_willisyou mean the . ?04:34
SuprUsr24G     .04:34
SuprUsrYes.04:34
Dr_willisguess ya could use awk for that.04:34
SuprUsrThe dot.04:34
Xcellwaits.04:34
Dr_willischeck the du options - it may have it also.04:34
SuprUsrDr_willis: I did. Nothing seems to be in there. :/04:35
Dr_willisdu -s04:35
Dr_willis20301247204:35
Dr_willisoh wait it had the . also. :) heh04:35
SuprUsrOr else I'm not looking hard enough... I've stared at the manpage for du for a few minutes.04:35
SuprUsrI thought grep might be able to do it, but I guess not. :/04:36
Dr_willisgrep prints out lines matching a pattern.04:36
SuprUsrYeah.04:36
Dr_willisawk/sed edit input out.04:36
XcellZombocom  hasnt returned..oi.04:37
Dr_willisdu -s | awk '{print $1}'04:37
Dr_willis20301247204:37
Dr_willis:P04:38
SuprUsrDr_willis: Awesome.04:38
SuprUsrThanks. :)04:38
sakthianhow to install .tar.gz04:38
Dr_willisawk is worth learning a bit of..04:38
Dr_willissakthian,  uncompress it.. read its docs..  installthe needed libs/C compiler. do the './configure make, and make install'  procedure04:38
maduserwhats that other program similar to awk  is it called sed?04:39
Dr_willissed and awk sort of are like... salt and pepper. :)04:39
Dr_willisboth work well together. :)04:39
madusersed is easier to use04:39
Dr_willisbut ya often perfer one to the other.04:39
madusertrue04:40
Dr_willisYep. sed is good for a lot of the similer needs.04:40
maduserbut can't awk do more?04:40
Dr_willisperl can also do a lot of things.04:40
Dr_willisawk is... sort of amazing in what it can do.04:40
madusermore amazing then sed?04:40
Dr_willisI have the using sed/awk book.04:40
maduserah04:40
Dr_willisYes. awk is much more amazing/flexiable/powerfull then sed04:40
maduserI learned how to sort of use it off of the acm04:40
maduseronline courses04:41
Linux_Galoreawk supports more complex commands better than sed I find04:41
Dr_willisi belive ive seen games written in awk. :)04:41
Dr_williswritten by SICK people! :)04:41
maduserthere are lots of things created by sick people04:41
maduserin many senses04:42
Linux_Galoresame people who write lisp games heh04:42
Dr_willishttp://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm04:42
Dr_willisnot sure how legal that url is.. :)04:42
maduserthe same people who made........04:42
maduserufdsfasdffhdhhsdffhdtht04:43
maduserdam04:43
maduseri just slamed my keyboard04:43
maduserwoops04:43
awaganyone have problems with compiz fusion causing a total system freeze on a regular basis?04:43
maduserno04:43
awag:)04:43
awagmine was working fine for about a month04:43
awagand then last week it started freezing randomly04:43
maduserthen what?04:43
Linux_Galoreyes04:44
maduserah04:44
awagi havn't changed anything to my knowledge04:44
maduserI still have time left for that04:44
awaganother thing that is interesting, at around the time my system started freezing randomly, firefox also stopped saving my previous sessions04:45
awageven though i have it set to restore session on start04:45
maduserhmmm04:46
Xcellinteresting04:46
awagyes04:46
awaghehe04:46
awagit sucks04:46
Xcellrestart xorg?04:46
maduserlots of things suck04:47
Xcellre config xorg?04:47
awagwell, everything seems to be working fine just using kwin though04:47
maduserdunno04:47
awagand compiz seems to work perfect as well, just after about 30 min of using it04:48
awagit freezes04:48
awagmaybe vid card overheating?04:48
Xcellya04:48
awagit is odd, if i boot up with compiz04:48
Xcellprolly04:48
awagand then go away, and don't use my computer04:48
awagit is fine04:48
maduserhow old is your computer?04:48
awagbut then if i start using it04:48
awagand spinning my cube and shit04:48
awagit will die without fail04:48
awagin about 30 - 1 h04:48
Dr_willisspinning your cube can cause blindness...04:49
Dr_willis:)04:49
awaghahaa04:49
Xcelllol card is tired.04:49
Dr_willisdare i suggest just disabling compiz ?04:49
Dr_willis:P04:49
maduseryou could04:49
awagwell, see, the thing is, when i'm doing homework and stuff, i sometimes like to be able to wobble my windows, and distract myself04:49
maduserah04:50
Xcelllol04:50
Dr_williswindow wabbling can cause blindness...04:50
Zombocomdear god it fixed nothing04:50
ZombocomI'm reinstalling kubuntu04:50
Dr_willis:)  My wife made me turn off Wobbly windows for her.04:50
awaghaha04:50
awagmy gf thinks it's cool04:50
Zombocomand never taking advice from Dr_willis04:50
awagand wishes windows could do it04:50
Dr_willisZombocom,  or check your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt config file.04:50
maduserthere are much worse things in thois world then reinstalling kubuntu04:50
Dr_willisZombocom,  whatever ya want.. have fun.04:50
awaglol04:50
Xcellsudo touch /forcefsck        see if U can now.04:50
ZombocomXcell I did that04:51
Dr_willisGuess i will stop researching the problem.04:51
Dr_willisAre the menus and things still messed up?04:51
Xcellsudo apt-get clean     ?04:51
awagman, i bought this video card just so i could use compiz-fusion too04:52
Xcellhow old04:52
awagis there an app i can use to see the temp of an nvidia card in kubuntu?04:52
Zombocomlook it up on adept_manager04:52
awagagp geforce 6600 256 mb04:52
Zombocomsomething I cannot do anymore04:52
Xcellawag    htop04:53
awagXcell, k thanks04:53
maduserwell Zombocom your screwed04:54
Zombocomthanks maduser04:54
Xcelllol i smell re- install/04:54
Zombocomexactly Xcell04:54
Zombocomlol04:54
Xcellthis time use 32 bit04:54
ciaconhi all... I was wondering, if the standard kubuntu install is applyed to a core2duo...04:55
kdehelphello04:55
kdehelpy can't I install Kde on my computer04:56
Xcell?04:56
ZombocomKDE 4?04:56
kdehelpI try to use synaptic04:56
Dr_williskdehelp,  just use 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'04:56
kdehelpcant find kde in search04:56
kdehelpill try04:56
Dr_willisinstall 'kubuntu-desktop' not 'kde'04:56
Xcellya04:57
awagoh, stupid me, nvidia-settings shows temp04:57
Xcelloi04:57
Xcelllol04:57
Dr_willisZombocom,  you may want to check your  /etc/apt.conf    to see if it has any proxy settings, and your /etc/apt/sources.list04:57
awaghmm, only 42 degrees04:58
path_what mirror is fast ?04:58
XcellI quit useing graphic cards..on board video for me..less expense and headaches/04:58
awaglets see what happens when i reenable compiz04:58
path_ubuntu.com seems pretty slow04:58
ZombocomDr_willis I don't have many of the core applications that come with kubuntu anymore04:59
ZombocomI uninstalled a proxifying program that somehow treed up to core aplications04:59
Dr_willisZombocom,  thats... odd...04:59
Zombocomand uninstalled them04:59
Zombocomyes it is04:59
Xcelldony use ubuntu..use a another ubuntu uses 50k max only.04:59
ZombocomKonqueror04:59
Zombocomis gone04:59
Dr_willisZombocom,  how did you uninstall them?04:59
ZombocomKopete is gone04:59
Xcellhahhah04:59
ZombocomI uninstalled something calles smproxy or something04:59
Xcell2 funny04:59
Zombocomsmanon04:59
Zombocomos some thing like that04:59
Dr_willisHOW did you uninstallit? with adept? or from the command line?05:00
Zombocomsm something05:00
Zombocomadept manager05:00
awagnice, already up 3 degrees05:00
Zombocomthen all of a sudden adept_manager dissapeared05:00
Dr_willisso adept some how removed itself. :)05:00
ZombocomI look and adept manager is gone05:00
SuprUsrSomeone name a decent manufacturer of portable media players? (Besides Apple.)05:00
Zombocomadept is still there05:00
Dr_willistry 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' perhaps..05:00
Xcellzom...download 32 bit...works well on 64 bit comp...no worries.05:00
Dr_willisif apt now works..05:00
ZombocomXcell it's the principle of it all05:00
ZombocomDr_willis I still have the problem where adept doesn't acess the internet05:01
XcellI know but still....why punnish yourself.05:01
Dr_willisZombocom,  well now the question.. do you want to try to fix it..or just reinstall the os...05:01
maduseri would sugest reinstall05:01
Zombocomreinstall sounds like it would take far less time05:01
kdehelplooks like it worked,,,thx05:01
kdehelpIm going to relg in and seell05:02
Xcellgood job kde  bravo.05:02
ZombocomXcell I on the other hand have failed05:02
awaghmm, temp is still only 46 C after spinning the cube for a minute or so, that should be a fine temp for it to run at i think..05:02
Xcellnah z  ur just fine05:03
Xcellsudo apt-get remove./bill gates.05:03
Zombocomsudo apt-get remove ./steve jobs05:03
Xcelllol05:03
Dr_willisi wouldent think the  6600 video card would have much of a heat issue.. Unless you are in bad need of a cooling fan or 2.05:03
Xcellz do the 32 bit and be (happy) done with it.........already.05:04
Dr_willisi would also say - stick with the 32bit disrtos unless you know you have a need for 64bit stuff.05:05
awagDr_willis, yeah i can't believe heat would be the problem, i have quite a few fans, and the temps seem to be fine, and i opened the case and put a room fan next to it just in case05:05
ZombocomNO Xcell I DEMAND THE PAIN05:06
Xcelllolo  un necessary05:06
Xcellawag05:06
Xcellz  pinch me..hurry........no waiting.05:06
* Zombocom pinches Xcell05:07
Xcellfeels 32 bit ticklness.05:07
Dr_willisawag,  could of been some update to compiz that is causing issues/memory leaks leading to crashing.. with compiz its hard to tell.05:07
Xcellgood point...mem leak05:08
Dr_willisand your cube spinning maybe making it leak faster - due to centripital force. :)05:08
Xcellplug it with more room fans....lol.05:08
Xcellmaybe a mem test?..all I know.05:09
Xcellz...stop talking so fast..k?05:10
n1ghtm4r3back .. conection went nut05:11
n1ghtm4r3had to reconfigure everything lol05:11
Xcellbravo.05:11
awaghmmm05:12
awagthis time it died a slow death05:12
awagwhere i was able to actually move the mouse while it was dying05:13
awagand i could back out to a terminal and run top05:13
awagand compiz was taking like 70% cpu05:13
Xcellit would on startup05:14
Xcellbut d htop..u can quit sessions at will.05:14
Xcelldo05:14
omaretehola05:20
Xcellbutter05:20
awaghi05:20
Xcell!es05:20
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:20
omaretehi??05:20
omaretehola05:20
awaghola05:21
omaretenecesito algo d ayuda jeje05:21
awag!es05:21
ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:21
omaretemmmmmmmm olvide como se hacia para mover como un cubo el escritorio d kde05:21
awaglol05:21
Xcellomarete:  we dont speak and dont understand..K?05:22
Dr_willis!es | omarete05:23
ubotuomarete: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.05:23
Xcellk?05:24
XcellBoaring for a sat nite.05:27
n1ghtm4r3_Beam me up Scotty!05:28
Xcellno waiting.05:28
mactallaHey there.  Could anyone tell me how to get the FLAC encoder for K3B?  (Kubuntu 7.10)05:28
* awag is updating random packages in hopes that they will fix his compiz problems05:28
n1ghtm4r3_mactalla do a barrel roll05:29
Xcelllol awag...wrong answer.05:29
n1ghtm4r3_no lol im kidding05:29
awag:)05:29
mactallan1ghtm4r3_: if that would work, I'd do it :)05:29
n1ghtm4r3_mactala: hehehe ^05:30
Xcellgoogle it.'05:30
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n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: so flash still seems not to be working05:33
mactallaMmm... looks like it's missing from my KDE install entirely (no FLAC in audiocd:/, either).  Can't figure out what package I've missed, though.05:33
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: any idea?05:33
Xcellmactalla: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=3446805:33
Xcelln1ghtm4r3 32 bit?05:34
XcellTalk to me05:34
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: yep05:34
Xcellhave fire fox?05:34
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: yep05:35
Xcell!flash05:35
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash05:35
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: already did all that05:35
Xcellwhat happens05:35
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: in fact its installed on FF , on Konq when i try to load a flash it gives me a blank grey square05:36
mactallaXcell: thanks.  I'm looking through that now to see if there's anything beyond "install flac"  I did find a bug on launchpad that looks like my problem... but no response to it.05:36
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XcellN1ghtm4r3:  go to crooksandliars.com  and report back..i Use that site as a test due to that it uses all codec.05:38
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: whenever i close or refresh a page with a flash on it i get an error message , googled it and i got this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9057005:44
deurytexcell sleeping??05:46
Xcellstand by.05:46
n1ghtm4r3_?05:50
Xcelln1ghtm4r3 U sure U R useig fire fox?05:51
deuryteno.  ice box05:52
mactallaFound it, the 'flac' package (not libflac) was needed, then it showed up under 'external codec' instead of being named.05:52
XcellI see no bugs for ff only konq05:52
Xcellnice mactalla.05:52
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Xcellhey due.05:54
Xcellmountaindue.05:54
path_E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.05:54
path_whats that? :/05:54
path_I know its an error eheh05:54
n1ghtm4r3_xcell: no i said it works on firefox but not on konq05:55
Xcellah  then u must go to konq and look through plugins and see if it sees ff plugins as a ref05:56
n1ghtm4r3_Xcell: we did that yesterday , i believe it does05:56
Xcellits a switch some where..just go through all the settings and see if u missed something..thats all i can do for right now..05:58
deurytexcell, any thoughts on my delemma??05:58
Xcellu r a dilemmmmmma.05:58
Xcelllol05:58
Xcelljust stop by your nearest dialup dealer and donate...you should receive instructions via snail mail.06:00
deuryteis that next dooe to the w2k green box??06:00
deuryteto the *06:00
Xcellya  they dont take american xpress though.06:01
deurytemaybe some bill gate gift certificates06:01
Xcellsudo apt-get remove./bill gates06:01
deurytehe he he he06:02
deuryteok, times up. zzzzzzzzzzz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzz06:02
Xcellim wore out right now..cant think straight...tired.06:02
deuryteinebriated??06:03
Xcellno...tired06:03
deuryteinhibitions toxic ??06:03
Xcelldid u finnish vid?06:04
deurytenegative, got lamblasted with other schtuff.........06:04
Xcellk06:04
deurytewill do when i can mentally fit it all together........06:05
Xcellsleepig usually does that06:05
the-ermanyone know off the top of their head how to change the volume up/down step percentage?06:05
the-ermkmix doesn't really have an option for it.06:05
deurytedo they make remotes for pc's ??06:05
XcellI havent seen 1 the-erm06:06
the-ermdeuryte: I have a gyration media center remote - basically a usb keyboard - really nice I can press next from anywhere in the house really nice when you have wireless headphones.06:06
deurytety. key board is the control head ??06:07
the-ermWorks out of the box, but you might need to set up a few things in ~/.Xmodmap06:07
Xcellwireless phones cook brain cells.06:07
the-ermA computer monitor probably cooks brain cells ...06:07
deurytethankx the-erm06:07
Xcelllol06:07
Xcellrf maround the cranium is nutritious.06:08
Xcellaround06:08
deurytesee ya !!06:10
Xcellk..3 or better06:10
deuryte406:10
deuryte2606:10
Xcellk06:10
deuryte1014806:10
deuryte10-4806:10
Xcell2606:11
Xcell5106:11
deuryte10-98 bed06:11
* maduser is listening to Come together by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]06:22
maduserhello?06:23
maduserto see somthing cool, open a query with yourself06:24
maduserot even says in the conerner talikg to yourself06:25
dreaminglol06:25
maduserits quite funny06:25
maduserit looks like someone is repeating everything you say06:26
* maduser is listening to Eleanor Rigby by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok]06:26
crimsun(please don't spam the channel with song status updates ;)06:27
maduseri didn't think anyone was on06:27
hydrogenwhich.. one would think... would make you less likely to spam it06:29
maduserits like talking to yourself when no one is on06:29
dreamingI guess it's like whistling.06:29
madusersort of06:29
hydrogenexcept much less appropriate06:30
maduseryeah06:30
maduserill open a query with myself06:30
dreamingWhat's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops?06:30
maduserin compiz?06:30
dreamingno, just normal kubuntu06:30
dreamingcompiz doesn't like me06:31
maduseroh?06:31
dreamingmakes taskbars disappear lol06:31
maduseryou don't have a teme manager06:31
maduserwhen you download compiz you also have to install emerald06:31
hydrogencompiz is really not worth the effort06:31
maduserif you don't there will be no taskbar06:31
maduserit makes your computer look cool06:32
maduserbrag to all your firends who use windows06:32
neville__I have Compiz running fine =/06:32
neville__Didn't need any effort06:32
madusersame here06:32
XcellI queried myself...no one showed up.06:34
maduserare you registered?06:34
Xcellj/k06:34
maduser?06:34
sub[t]rnlXcell: hehe06:35
Xcellregistered nut.06:35
maduserdouble click yorself06:35
maduserdouble click yourself06:35
Xcellit hurts06:35
madusersame here06:35
maduserhehe06:36
madusergod i'm tired06:36
Xcellsleeeeepy.06:37
madusersleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy06:37
Xcellu r sleeeeepy.06:37
maduseri am sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy06:37
Xcellsnorz06:37
maduseryeah06:37
Xcellstop Yawning.06:37
maduserthat helps06:38
maduserhmmm?06:39
madusermy computer is all messes up06:40
Xcellenjoy.06:40
maduserwhat?06:40
Xcelllol06:40
maduserdid you............06:40
madusernah06:40
Xcellya06:40
maduseroh06:40
maduserthis certanly is a problem06:41
Xcellwhat06:41
maduserI think my compter is trying to put me in a siezure06:41
Xcellhow06:41
maduserevery thing is flashing06:41
Xcellrefresh rate screwed up06:41
maduserwow its like a light show06:42
Xcell?06:42
madusernow my compter is all pink06:42
sub[t]rnltheres a fix in the repo's06:42
Xcellu smoke 2 mutch06:42
sub[t]rnlapt-get --purge remove acid06:42
maduserits so...............femimine06:42
sub[t]rnl+1 bad joke06:42
sub[t]rnl:/06:43
Xcelllol06:43
madusermy computers colors are all messed up06:43
maduserlets see...06:43
Xcellsuso remove maduser./06:43
Xcellsudo\06:43
maduser?06:43
Jay-Oh-Enhow do i transfer music to a phillips mp3 players06:44
Xcellinstall 2 paper cups ans some wire.06:44
Xcelland06:44
maduserlets try a refrese desktop06:44
maduserlets try a refresh desktop06:45
Jay-Oh-Enshut up meany06:45
Xcellj/k06:45
sub[t]rnlJay-Oh-En: its not getting recognized?06:45
sub[t]rnlwhen you just, plug it up06:45
Jay-Oh-Enhold on ill tell you06:45
bazhangJay-Oh-En: open amarok, then plug it in--it should be recognized06:46
maduserthe only mp3 player i have ever seen instantly work is a Rollei06:46
sub[t]rnlcause its the only one you have06:46
sub[t]rnlzing!06:46
Xcelllol06:46
sub[t]rnllol06:46
maduserno I have 706:46
sub[t]rnlwowsa06:47
maduserkubuntu treats it like a removeable flash drive06:47
madusersimiple to usr06:47
Xcellwow06:47
madusersimiple to use06:47
sub[t]rnlyeah, thats hal and d-bus hard at work06:47
maduseryeah06:47
bazhangall my mp3 players have been recognized--haven't tried the zune though :}06:47
sub[t]rnlzune.. isn't that a cell phone/mp3 player?06:48
sub[t]rnltype dealio.  Thought I saw it advertised on tv06:48
sub[t]rnlmaybe i'm way off06:48
maduseri don't think so06:48
bazhangzune is the ms ipod-killer heh06:48
maduserthe juke is06:48
northpunkanyone know hot to get the compiz to work on kubuntu 7.10?  i finally got the updates to get my nvida drivers to work.. but the commands for compiz don't work.  pm me06:49
sub[t]rnlwhat commands you using?06:50
Jay-Oh-Enno it doesnt06:50
sub[t]rnlJay-Oh-En: odd, does lsusb show anything?06:50
madusercompiz --relace?06:50
northpunkwell i am trying to use what ever they have in the control panel to activate.. like ctr alt down.. but nothing happens06:50
northpunkdone that06:50
northpunki spent the last 5 hours going through tutorials.. and every fix that seems to work for someone06:51
maduserdid you install the settings manager?06:51
northpunkand compiz-kde that doesn't install itself automatically. had to manually install that06:51
northpunkeven restarted X many a time06:52
maduserkde?06:52
sub[t]rnlthats not really needed06:52
sub[t]rnldoes ccsm bring up anything06:52
maduserthe kde window manager?06:52
northpunki am using kubuntu.. it uses the kmenu06:52
northpunkyeah it brings up the sttings control panel with scope, cube and everything06:52
maduserdo you use emerald?06:52
northpunkbut the commands that they state in the settings.. don't do anything06:52
northpunkhave emerald instaleld but it does nothing more then change my themes06:53
sub[t]rnlthats all emerald is, a decorator06:53
sub[t]rnljust like compiz-kde06:53
maduserI was wondering if he had the problem of no taskbar06:53
northpunkok well how do i get the cube, shimmer, add etc to work?06:53
sub[t]rnlis ps ax|grep compiz showing you its running?06:53
sub[t]rnlis "ps ax|grep compiz" showing you its running?06:53
sub[t]rnltrying not to confuse06:54
northpunkmy nvidia works at it is supposed to... but when i was in gnome and did the whole desktop effects thing.. it always told me it couldn't activate06:54
northpunkgrep compiz?06:54
sub[t]rnlrun that command06:54
sub[t]rnlps ax|grep compiz06:54
northpunk14206 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep compiz06:55
sub[t]rnlyeah, you havn't started it06:55
northpunkhow do i?06:55
sub[t]rnldo what maduser said06:55
sub[t]rnlcompiz --replace06:55
northpunki have done that many times.. hold on06:55
maduserdoes the screen turn black?06:55
northpunkChecking for Xgl: not present.06:55
northpunkDetected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0110 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA])06:56
northpunkChecking for texture_from_pixmap: present.06:56
northpunkChecking for non power of two support: present.06:56
northpunkChecking for Composite extension: present.06:56
northpunkComparing resolution (1440x900) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed.06:56
northpunkChecking for nVidia: present.06:56
northpunkLess than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity06:56
northpunkno /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting06:56
northpunkmetacity?06:56
sub[t]rnlyeah06:56
maduserisn't that a window theme?06:56
sub[t]rnlgnome06:56
maduserah06:56
sub[t]rnlsudo apt-get install emerald06:56
northpunkand no it didn't go black06:56
northpunkemerald is already the newest version06:57
maduserso it does not work06:57
maduserdo you have it set as emerald as the window manager?06:57
northpunkhow do i do/check that?06:57
madusersettings manager06:58
sub[t]rnlor run emerald --replace06:58
northpunk"system settings"?06:58
maduserno06:58
madusersettings06:58
path_E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle.06:58
path_Im still getting that message error06:58
Jay-Oh-Ensub[t]rnl: how do i get it to work06:58
maduseravanced desktop effects06:58
path_what can I do ?06:58
northpunkemerald --replace is just sitting there with no text or anything06:58
northpunknow my terminal isn't doing a thing06:59
bazhangnorthpunk: alt-f2 then emerald --replace07:01
maduseryeah07:01
maduserwait northpunk, you were doing everything in the terminal?07:01
madusernot the run command?07:01
northpunkgtk warning ** cannot open display07:02
sub[t]rnlfirst off, compiz isn't starting07:02
sub[t]rnlso no need to run emerald07:02
northpunkso do compiz there too07:02
northpunk?07:02
sub[t]rnlyou don't have your video card driver setup07:02
sub[t]rnl<northpunk> Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity07:02
northpunksamething about metacity not found07:02
northpunkmy nvidia is finally set up and working07:03
sub[t]rnlwell, compiz was made for gnome, so its trying to load the window manager (default in gnome is metacity)07:03
northpunki even get the 3d logo when i start kubuntu now07:03
sub[t]rnlbecause compiz is failing to start07:03
maduserug his compiz thinks he has ubuntu07:03
madusergot to change that07:03
northpunkyeah i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop still didn't work at all07:03
northpunkso i removed it again07:03
sub[t]rnlheh...07:03
* sub[t]rnl sighs07:03
sub[t]rnlpay attention to the errors that its giving you07:04
northpunki started with ubuntu server.. no desktop07:04
northpunkinstalled ubuntu desktop.. never worked07:04
northpunkthen i installed kubuntu because it lokos and runs better.. and runs povray hwo i want it too07:04
maduserit has nothing to do with the desktop07:04
northpunkso i should spend another hour waiting for ubuntu desktop to install again?07:04
maduserno07:05
northpunki mean gnome07:05
maduseryou got to change the settings so compiz uses emerald07:05
sub[t]rnlcompiz wont start07:05
northpunkbut everyone is telling me why this isn't working or why that isn't working.. no one has told me how to change that setting07:05
maduserwait07:06
northpunkit is all about finding what error messages i geet07:06
maduserare you like new to linux?07:06
neoguys when I use dcd to play cd the volume remains very low even with full cd volume in KMix07:06
neoWhy?07:06
northpunkfinal told xp to screw off because the bugs were to much07:06
sub[t]rnlneo: try alsamixer07:06
sub[t]rnlnorthpunk: you need xgl, compiz isn't loading because of your video card07:07
maduseryeah07:07
neosame results with alsamixer too07:07
northpunkxserverl-xgl?07:08
neoIs it my soundcard?07:09
sub[t]rnlare you using kde or gnome?07:09
northpunkkde07:09
neokde07:09
northpunki have installed and removed gnome so many times trying the different patches and things07:09
sub[t]rnlnorthpunk: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or alt + ctrl + backspace)07:09
sub[t]rnlthen run compiz --replace07:09
northpunkand i know i can switch between the 2.. but gnome cluttered up my kstart with to many links07:09
maduserinstalling gonome won't do anything07:10
dreamingthat xserver seems to have done the trick for me as well07:10
northpunkok well xgl is installing still07:10
dreamingcheers07:10
northpunkbrb07:10
dreamingim brand brand new to linux :D07:10
sub[t]rnldreaming: welcome aboard07:10
maduserah07:11
sub[t]rnlneo: do you have volume issues with other apps? or just dcd07:11
Xcelldreaming: sudo apt-get remive./bill gates.07:11
neojudt dcd, others are fine07:11
Xcellno donnt07:12
sub[t]rnlneo: check the man pages, i havn't used it, i use mpg123 for console based players07:12
neook thanks07:12
maduservlc07:12
Xcellsub[t]rnl: Does that work well?07:12
sub[t]rnlyeah, i dig it07:12
XcellIll try that.07:13
sub[t]rnlwell, used too before linux desktops got so damn purdy07:13
sub[t]rnlnow i've abandoned my anti-xwindow ways07:13
maduserbefore x?07:13
sub[t]rnli started using linux in 96, we had x07:13
maduserah07:14
maduserbut it was really primitive?07:14
XcellI had 12 mhz in 96.07:14
sub[t]rnlyeah07:14
sub[t]rnlstill better than windows at the time though07:14
sub[t]rnlXcell: lol07:15
Xcellhe he07:15
Xcell28607:15
maduser95 was when windows was still....07:15
maduserusable?07:16
sub[t]rnli drink too much, i have trouble remembering this morning07:17
sub[t]rnl:/07:17
Xcelllol07:17
maduserthats bad07:17
sub[t]rnlyeah07:17
Xcellhiccup!07:17
maduserblackout07:17
sub[t]rnlwhats worse is when I have an external hard-drive filled with 5 years worth of logs07:17
sub[t]rnlcause my memory is so bad07:17
* sub[t]rnl pops a top07:17
Xcelllol  5 yrs of logs07:17
* maduser waits til he can drink07:18
sub[t]rnlwhen you start having to grep your ~/.bash_history, you know its getting bad07:18
Xcellsips tennesse 190 proof.07:18
maduserare you trying to kill yourself?07:18
northpunkmy desktop started to load and then... goes white with nothing but a curser in front of it... restarted a few times but i couldn't get it working normal again with out removing xserver-xgl07:19
purpleposeidonsub[t]rnl: It can't be too bad.... you still know know about ~.bash_history , right?07:21
sub[t]rnl+1 purpleposeidon07:21
northpunkwhen i ran the ps grep thing from alt f2.. i got a few lins of numbers07:21
northpunkbut like i siad... my desktop screen would go straight white when i tried to log on07:21
northpunkor after it loaded rather07:21
sub[t]rnlyou running gutsy?07:22
sub[t]rnlthis sounds like an old mesalib bug07:22
maduserthe curcial question07:22
northpunkso more input would be greatly appreciated07:23
sub[t]rnlyou first07:23
sub[t]rnlwhat version of kubuntu are you running?07:24
northpunkkubuntu gutsy gibbon07:24
northpunkso 7.1007:24
sub[t]rnlhrm07:25
sub[t]rnlnot sure broseph07:25
sub[t]rnli've never had a problem installing on nvidia cards07:26
sub[t]rnlati is another story07:26
sub[t]rnllspci |grep VGA07:26
sub[t]rnlsays what?07:26
maduseri use ati ad had no problems07:26
northpunkmy bigest problem WAS getting my invidia driver to install07:26
northpunkbut compiz website has a GREAT tuturial on installing nvidia, radiun, or intel07:27
sub[t]rnlmaduser: you using the current driver they put out?07:27
northpunkNOTHING on using kde07:27
sub[t]rnlcompiz wasn't made for kde07:27
northpunkbut you guys are telling me that i can get this to run on kde when i said i should just try installing gnome again..07:28
northpunkno one is telling me how to get emerald to work insead as was suggested07:28
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northpunkwas suggested.. but not assisted07:28
sub[t]rnlemerald is a window decorator for compiz07:28
northpunkthat has been stated as well07:28
sub[t]rnlok, thats i'm not telling you how to get emerald to work07:29
sub[t]rnlthats why07:29
sub[t]rnlneed compiz to work before we worry about window decorations07:29
northpunkbut someone says compiz won't work with kubuntu07:30
maduserbut doesn't his problem include the matacty themes?07:30
sub[t]rnlno one said that07:30
maduserah07:30
northpunkand they also said i don't have to use gnome07:30
northpunkso i am hearing 2 things neither help07:30
northpunki should try vista :S07:31
maduserI the past if i had a problem i would google it07:31
maduserI never had to use the chat room for help07:32
northpunki have been using google, ubuntuforums, kubuntuforums, and msn messanger for the last 6 hours now07:32
northpunknot one tetorial has helped07:32
northpunkwow my head hurts07:32
eltoronorthpunk : it worked for me but it slowed down my laptop, whick runned compiz and emerald well on ubuntu07:34
maduseryou know you don't have to use compiz07:34
maduserits just eyecandy07:35
eltoroi uninstalled it07:35
madusercool07:35
eltoroyeah but it's much fun show it to your frinds who use vista07:35
eltorohehe07:35
maduserthats the only reason i have it07:35
eltorothey're like whick windows is it07:36
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eltorohaha07:36
maduserare there things to wory about if you update your video card?07:36
eltoroim not a really advanced user but i dont you'd have probs07:37
eltorotry to google the name of your card with kubuntu problems bla bla if you dont find anything go ahead07:37
maduserlike form a really old ati to a new ati card]07:38
n1ghtm4r3_test07:41
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n1ghtm4r3_anyone still on lol?07:47
gadren_uh, hi07:48
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sub[t]rnlyo07:48
eltoromaduser like i said google it if people had problems07:50
eltoroyou'll see it07:50
eltoroyo07:50
n1ghtm4r3_whee ..07:54
n1ghtm4r3_tought my conection was dieying on me again07:54
eltorono there's not a lot of activity here at 3am et07:54
eltorohaha07:54
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posingaspopularyea im here08:26
posingaspopularnot really paying attention though08:26
n1ghtm4r3_OMG08:29
n1ghtm4r3_peoples are alive!08:29
n1ghtm4r3_!afk08:29
ubotuYou should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines08:29
n1ghtm4r3_cool08:30
posingaspopularn1ghtm4r3_: that's why there are offtopic chans08:31
n1ghtm4r3_posingaspopular: yah but im a newbee to IRC's too .. im usualy a IM user08:31
posingaspopularah yea i was new to IRC a year ago08:32
posingaspopularnow i have irc, IM, gmail chat open..08:32
hatterwhat is the name of the low latency kernel for use with audio ?08:34
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: uh?08:38
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: i have no idea what your asking .. you want a good program to listen to music?08:39
n1ghtm4r3_mh anyone know what is the X Window ?08:41
hattern1ghtm4r3_, to run rosegarden a low latency kernel is needed08:45
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: what is rosegarden (dont mind me , im a Kubnoobto)08:46
hattern1ghtm4r3_, rosegarden is a midi sequencing program08:46
n1ghtm4r3_hatter: Oooooh then maybe you should consider Ubuntu Studios08:47
hattern1ghtm4r3_, yep, thats it, i just installed it , the kernel related is 1.6.22-14-rt08:48
hatter'2.6.22-14-rt'08:48
hattertime to reboot, hope it worked :)08:48
arrrghhhhey all08:53
arrrghhhso i have this interesting problem on reboot... alsamixer's master volume always goes way low, and i have to turn it up every time the computer is restarted.  is there any way to have it save the master voluem?08:54
vzducharrrghhh: sudo alsactl store09:06
arrrghhhvzduch: ok i'm going to reboot...09:17
arrrghhhvzduch: that didn't work...09:20
arrrghhhi didn't have this issue in xfce.09:20
mikkaeli want prevent a specific package from updating. i can do this in synaptic, but how does adept_updater know that it shouldnt update that package ?09:23
arrrghhhi don't know if you can with adept...09:27
Kite_DHi need sum help here... how can i upgrade to 7.1009:27
Kite_DHi got feisty rightnow09:27
arrrghhhfire up a terminal09:28
Kite_DHrunning09:28
arrrghhhsudo update-manager -d09:28
arrrghhhwoah... it's offering me hardy already?  i didn't realize i had THOSE repos on... sheesh09:29
mikkaeladept is a front end for aptitude, right ?09:30
arrrghhheither that or apt-get... i don't remember09:30
arrrghhhit's a gui for APT09:31
arrrghhhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager09:31
mikkaelso it should be possible to keep a specific version?09:31
mikkaelvia terminal ..09:31
arrrghhhsure?  i dunno.09:32
Kite_DHarrrghhh: it says some packagerepos are deaktivated09:32
Kite_DHis that a problem??09:32
arrrghhhno09:33
arrrghhhyou can reactivate after the dist-upgrade09:33
mikkaelfrom apt-get manpage: --no-upgrade: Do not upgrade packages; When used in conjunction with install, no-upgrade will prevent packages on the command line from being upgraded if they are already installed. so "sudo apt-get install --no-upgrade openarena-data" would do this job ?09:34
arrrghhhi'd say so09:35
arrrghhhtry it09:35
Kite_DHCanonical Ltd. no longer provides support for the following software packages. You can still get support from the community.09:36
Kite_DHit says09:36
Kite_DHarrrghhh: you mean, if the upgrade is done, i should just update my packages?09:37
mikkaelmaybe some packages moved from main to universe or whatever09:38
Kite_DHoh, well...09:38
mikkaeluniverse and multiverse are not officially supported09:38
Kite_DHafter the upgrade is done, i have to run "dist-upgrade" right?09:38
mikkaelas far as i know09:38
arrrghhhuh i don't think that's necessary09:38
arrrghhhupdate-manager -d is the same thing09:38
Kite_DHoh, aight09:38
Kite_DHnever used the update-manager09:38
arrrghhhsorry, i'm used to xfce09:38
Kite_DHit downloads the upgrade now09:38
arrrghhhi forgot the apt-get way...09:39
arrrghhhyea the update-manager way is the easiest imo09:39
Kite_DH1343 packages09:39
Kite_DHnice09:39
arrrghhhyea if you had done "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it would've done the same thing.  oops.09:40
Kite_DHlul09:40
Kite_DH:)09:40
arrrghhhgotta love linux, they give you 143 ways to skin a cat09:40
Kite_DH:o?09:40
mikkaeldist-upgrade isnt the same as update-manager -d ?!09:41
mikkaelwell dist-upgrade leaves me on gutsy..09:41
Kite_DH:O09:41
arrrghhhhrm09:42
arrrghhhwell maybe not.09:42
arrrghhhi dunno, but i'm positive update-manager -d gets the job done09:42
mikkaeli always update with dist-upgrade09:42
arrrghhhis it not Kite_DH?09:42
Kite_DHdoes its job09:42
mikkaeldist-upgrade will update everything, even if things have to be removed09:42
Kite_DH1 hour to go :(09:42
mikkaelsafe-upgrade will not remove anything09:43
arrrghhhat least you're not doing this on dialup09:43
Kite_DHare you doing this on dialup?09:43
mikkaelbut to get to another version 7.04-7.10 or higher, dist-upgrade wont do that09:43
arrrghhhme?  heck no09:44
arrrghhhjust sayin lol09:44
Kite_DHheh09:44
mikkaelupdate-manager isnt installed on my system, is this gnome ?09:46
arrrghhhi'm on kubuntu09:46
arrrghhhkde09:46
Kite_DHme too09:46
mikkaelhehe maybe i should reinstall kubuntu-desktop :P09:46
arrrghhhthe original install on this system was xubuntu, but i put kubuntu on it since.09:46
mikkaelupdate-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates09:47
arrrghhhit's possible it came w/xfce...09:47
mikkaelthats it09:48
arrrghhhnever had gnome on here09:48
mikkaelxubuntu has a lot gnome09:48
arrrghhhwell i don't know how Kite_DH got it09:48
arrrghhhyea that's true09:48
Kite_DHi moved from windoze to kubuntu edgy09:49
Kite_DHlong long time ago09:49
Kite_DHlol09:49
arrrghhhdid you ever have gnome?09:49
Kite_DHnot installed, i checked ubuntu 7.04 out tho...via live-cd09:49
arrrghhhhrm09:49
mikkaelgtk apps integrate good with kde imo :) but i dont like the file saving/opening dialogs :P09:49
Kite_DHit was nice, but i love KDE09:49
arrrghhhi dunno09:49
arrrghhhyea i prefer kde from the 3 big ones09:49
mikkaelfor a good look try: sudo aptitude install kde-style-qtcurve gtk2-engines-qtcurve09:52
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ingo_Hi there - does anybody know how to install a KDE theme *.kth onto a remote Kubuntu box to which I only have command line access?09:56
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Chadwick|359Hey there everybody. The buttons along the bottom of my ktorrent window seem to have disappeared, and I can't seem to find anything in shortcuts or the options menus that will bring them back, anybody have any hints?09:57
mikkaelthey come from the module that gives you informations, is this loaded ?09:58
Chadwick|359Huh, I didn't unload it, how the heck did that happen? Thanks, mikkael.09:58
spawn57!vmware10:01
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers10:01
administratorhello10:04
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rafalhi10:05
lg188hello , wlorlf10:08
lg188world*10:08
lg188howto install auda city10:09
lg188not command ...10:10
sigmai finally found a decent video encoder. try kvideoencoder. its seems 2b da only one that works properly10:12
sigmaare the kubuntu tutorial lessons for beginners?10:13
pastulioim swapping my old agp tnt riva graphics card for a gf5700 on my kubuntu box, will it just work without any trouble or will i have to do anything special first?10:13
sigmawill a 250gb seagate sata drive work fine on kubuntu 7.10 as a secondary hard drive?10:15
sigmamy primary hdd is currently a 80gb seagate sata drive10:15
sigmaanyone there?10:17
ploddersigma: why shouldn't it?10:51
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intrepidlytritehey, I've got a webcam question...anyone here?10:56
Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: in what way ?11:05
Linux_Galorewonder why people ask about sata when its just a variant of the normal ide standard11:06
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intrepidlytritelinux_galore, I've got a webcam installed, drivers are loaded, apps recognize it, but I still get black screens only...any idea?11:11
Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: nope11:11
intrepidlytritelinux_galore ok, thanks11:13
Linux_Galorewebcam howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam11:13
intrepidlytriteyes, had a look there too11:13
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Linux_Galoreintrepidlytrite: some times I find loging out and back in (not a reboot) can make usb devices work better11:14
intrepidlytritelinux_galore yes, well, I've tried that....do you think it could be a graphics driver issue?11:17
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sigmahow do i use firewall builder? everything is greyed out11:20
kiizpls where can i find libdvdcss2 needed to play dvds11:21
sigmakiiz: its in the medibuntu repository11:21
kiizis it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory11:24
kiizsigma: is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory11:24
kiizsigma: thanks i found it11:27
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kiizhow can i play mp3 in kubuntu.transcoding my collection to .ogg is an overkill11:45
pagkiiz, install libxine1-ffmpeg11:46
Migs-sehello11:46
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Migs-seabout-to-be-new-user-of-Kubuntu here :)11:46
tuxwulfWhat's more, not all portable MP3 playeers support oggs11:46
Migs-seI'm just preparing my PC for it. But in the meantime, I want to get a bit informed. :)11:47
pagMigs-se, sure. Just ask your question(s) :-)11:47
Migs-seI've heard that the Linux Media Center is based on Kununtu. If I install Kubuntu 7.04, am I able to download the media ceter specific componets?11:47
Migs-se*center11:47
Migs-se*Kubuntu11:48
Migs-seman, my typo's are nasty11:48
Migs-seBasically, I just want a non-resource hungry OS to run a media center on to play videos on the hard drive/cd-dvd or stream off the network from a Windows-Based PC.11:49
pagMigs-se, I'm not sure, but it might be possible, if it's in the repositories11:49
Migs-seI see11:50
Migs-sea friend mentioned it uses MythTV for the Media Center aspect11:50
Migs-sewell, I'll find out when I start installing it in about 5 minutes11:51
Migs-sebusy making an image of the hard drive before I start.11:51
pagMigs-se, at least MythTV is in the repo's... so even if you will not be able to install Media Centre in other way, it still should be manually configurable somehow..11:52
Migs-seActually, I'm glad there are people around here today. :)11:52
Migs-seI see11:52
Migs-sedo you know how large is the download for MythTV?11:53
pagMigs-se, on my system it says "After unpacking 155MB of additional disk space will be used." but the result may vary a bit in both direcions11:54
kiizpag: did't find it in medibuntu repo11:54
pagkiiz, it's in multiverse11:55
pag!info libxine1-ffmpeg11:55
Migs-seHmm11:55
ubotulibxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB11:55
Migs-seguess I'll only find out when I start Kubuntu then11:55
Migs-sethanks anyway pag11:55
Migs-sebusy starting up Kubuntu now11:56
Migs-seHmmm11:56
pagMigs-se, good luck :)11:56
Migs-selooks like Kubuntu Install is not TV Friendly11:56
Migs-segetting bad picture of blues and purples11:56
Migs-seguess I have to hook up a monitor11:57
Migs-seby the way11:59
Migs-seis Kubuntu Ati friendly now?11:59
Migs-seI remember with the older linux distros I used, I could't use an ati card12:00
pagMigs-se, sure it is - Ati just isn't Linux friedly yet ;P12:00
Migs-seHmmm12:00
Migs-sethen I may have a problem with TV Out then12:00
Migs-sehow about Nvidia? I have a 5200 that is't being used12:00
pagMigs-se, nvidia works great as far as I know :)  (I don't have experience with TV-out though..)12:01
Migs-seAh, we have a visual12:01
Migs-selooks like Kubuntu needs a monitor for installation, heh12:01
Migs-seI'll try the Nvidia if the Ati fails12:02
Migs-serighty, this is where I need some real help, heh12:05
Migs-seI'm at the partition disk space now12:05
Migs-seI'm thinking of using it all, but can it still be read on a Windows-Based PC?12:05
Kite_DHMigs-se: yes12:06
Migs-seso use the guided-use entire space option or guided-use the largest continuous free space?12:07
Migs-sedon't want to make separate partitions, so I rather use all of the free space.12:07
Migs-seit will be just 1 oS.12:07
kiizpag: under what dir is it in.it is not in the x,libx dir12:09
stdinkiiz: it's a package you install with adept12:09
pagkiiz, dir? just open konsole, and type "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg "12:10
pagkiiz, ..or use Adept, if you prefer graphical way12:10
kiizi dont have an internet connection!12:10
Migs-sereally?12:11
Migs-sehow are you able to communicate here then?12:11
pagkiiz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg <- you can download all the needed packages from here..12:12
kiizi am in an internet cafe'. far far from home12:12
Migs-seand Kubuntu is now formatting my drives12:13
Migs-se*prays for good luck*12:13
Norgurstop praying12:13
Norgurthis never helped for me :P12:13
Migs-seLOL!12:15
EiccaIs there any playstation emulators for kubuntu?12:15
Migs-sejust curious, but where are you based pag?12:16
NorgurEicca, jes there is12:16
Migs-seEicca: Ah! thanks for reminding me12:16
Norgurin repos: pcsx12:16
pagMigs-se, you mean, which country am I from? I currently live in Finland..12:16
Migs-seyep, was refering to country.12:16
Migs-seI Hail from South Africa though12:17
Norgur^^12:17
Norgur<---Germany :P12:17
Migs-seyou poor bastards, heh12:17
Migs-seI despise the cold12:17
Norgurwell12:17
Norgurisnt cold at all12:17
Norgur15 Degrees Celsius ;)12:18
Migs-sethats cold, heh12:18
Migs-sesnow is over-rated12:19
Norguri never mind12:19
Norgurno^^12:19
Migs-securrently 21 degrees celcious over here12:19
Norgurexactly noone rates this very high at all12:19
* oliver3 stares at Dolphin in Kubuntu12:20
kiizpag: do i also have to download links with red bottons12:21
oliver3I thought Dolphin wasn't going to be the file manager until KDE4?12:21
pag!dolphin | oliver312:21
ubotuoliver3: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.12:21
oliver3<_<12:21
oliver3But why? xD12:22
pagkiiz, I'm not sure if default installation has them already... but it might be a good idea to download them just to be sure12:22
llutzoliver3: users wished12:22
oliver3Fair enough.12:22
oliver3I've just noticed, in Dolphin, on the right there is a little menu.12:22
oliver3It's there twice.12:22
oliver3O.o12:22
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oliver3I think I'll stick with Ubuntu as my main OS for now.12:24
oliver3Can't be doing will silly bugs like that. >_>12:24
* oliver3 sticks his nose up pompously.12:24
oliver3:P12:24
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Linux_Galoreoliver3: dolphin is not finished and I was surprised they set it as the default, I just swap it back to konqueror12:33
Linux_Galoreif you really want to have fun try getting a network scanner working in kubuntu, I gave up and wrote my own program12:35
oliver3xD12:36
oliver3Oh my :x12:37
Migs-seOkay, another question :)12:39
Migs-sewhat is the difference between Ati Radeon(fbdev) - Ati Radeon(fglrx) and Ati Radeon(vesa)?12:39
Migs-seI'm using a Ati Radeon 9250 AGP12:39
Migs-sethere is one that simply says Ati Radeon though12:40
ricaneliteokay, currently right now im using the Gnome desktop, Is it possible that I could have Gnome and Kubuntu because im curious in trying out the KDE Desktop. But I do NOT want to messup my Gnome desktop and its files. Is it possible? If so what is the best way I getting it installing and running?12:40
pagMigs-se, fbdec is an open ati driver iirc, vesa is generic driver and fglrx is closed-source ati driver.12:41
oliver3Migs-se, fglrx is the official driver, but I think it's proprietary. vesa is a generic driver and fbdev I'm not sure about.12:42
oliver3ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop12:42
pagricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop and use it with another user - it shouldn't affect your user settings at all that way (iirc it won't affect them even if you run with the same user, but if you want to be 120% sure..:)12:42
Migs-sehmmm, so which driver do you guys recommend I use?12:42
Migs-seor try each one until I get tv-out? heh12:43
oliver3Migs-se, if fglrx wasn't proprietary I would recommend that.12:43
oliver3But seeing as it is, I can't