| Dr_willis | Text based console/cli/dos is the next big thing. | 00:00 |
| neville | Lol | 00:00 |
| Dr_willis | Saves on Power ussage. so its more 'green' for the planet. | 00:00 |
| Dr_willis | and GREEN CRT Serial terminal will be comming out soon! | 00:00 |
| neville | Please stop it now | 00:00 |
| rignes | Actually, it seems to be finally sinking in at Micro$oft that the cli isn't so terrible. I mean, their implementation is still crappy, but at least it's there. | 00:00 |
| neville | I'll be all laughed out | 00:00 |
| Dr_willis | 'floppy disks are more recycelable then usb drives' | 00:01 |
| neville | Hahaha | 00:01 |
| lounge | Exchange 2007 is CLI to even just change a mailbox limit :s | 00:01 |
| rignes | Don't get me started on that. I wasted ages trying to figure out limits on Exchange 2007. | 00:01 |
| rignes | The trouble is there are a zillion places to change the limits, and if you miss just one it defaults to the lowest. | 00:02 |
| Dr_willis | that makes it more secure. :) | 00:02 |
| Dr_willis | who needs a variable set in just 1 place! | 00:02 |
| rignes | :P | 00:03 |
| lounge | yep, took me ages too to figure it, damm Micros~1 | 00:03 |
| rignes | I applaud them for seeing the light that is the cli, but there are certain things that should be in a gui front end on a mail server. And I'd think changing message size limits would be one of them. I mean, it seems like a fairly common tweak.. | 00:04 |
| penguin | i have a digital camera and when i upload the pics to my hdd it saves them with the .ppm file extenstion. what program can i use to convert these .ppm files to jpeg? | 00:05 |
| rignes | Anyway, enough microshaft talk for me here. This is a Linux based channel after all. :D | 00:05 |
| penguin | !ppm | 00:05 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ppm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 00:05 |
| penguin | !.ppm | 00:05 |
| rignes | ppmtojpeg I think. | 00:05 |
| Dr_willis | What are you trying to learn penguin ? | 00:06 |
| Dr_willis | !find ppm | 00:06 |
| ubotu | Found: libcomplearn-mod-ppmdx, mrwtoppm, mrwtoppm-data, mrwtoppm-gimp, mrwtoppm-utils (and 2 others) | 00:06 |
| NickPresta | penguin, imagemagick has a nice utility called "convert" | 00:06 |
| rignes | Oh yeah, there is that too. | 00:06 |
| rignes | man convert | 00:06 |
| penguin | Dr_willis: im trying to convert .ppm inamges to jpeg images | 00:06 |
| penguin | NickPresta: is imagemagick available in the repos? | 00:06 |
| NickPresta | penguin, yep | 00:07 |
| Dr_willis | yep. :) thats proberly the best tool for doind a lot of them | 00:07 |
| mcrandello | I'm looking for information on putting a file in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe to ignore a device, anyone know if there's a guide anywhere on what I need to do to accomplish that? | 00:08 |
| mcrandello | google failed me and the "preferences.fdi" doesn't have any info on making it ignore the device | 00:09 |
| genii | Faceoff :) | 00:10 |
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| Linux_Galore | I usually use gimp to change image file fromats myself | 00:16 |
| Linux_Galore | formats* | 00:16 |
| Zabulus | ok, i still need help, upgrading to gutsy didnt solve the problem | 00:20 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrad | 00:21 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: so you ran sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade | 00:21 |
| Linux_Galore | after changing your sources file obviously | 00:22 |
| Zabulus | no... | 00:22 |
| adamonline45 | Every time I open amarok it will seem to be loading, then the taskbar icon disappears and it doesn't start :( What can I do? | 00:22 |
| Zabulus | didnt get the chance, my mouse froze up before i could do anything | 00:22 |
| Dr_willis | run it fron a ternubal and look for error messages | 00:23 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: you dont need a mouse | 00:23 |
| Zabulus | i know, just makes things easier | 00:23 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: login to t terminal no the desktop | 00:23 |
| Linux_Galore | not* | 00:23 |
| Zabulus | will that possibly stop my mouse from freezing up? | 00:24 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: or press ctrl alt F1 at the login screen | 00:24 |
| Dr_willis | this is a usb mouse? | 00:24 |
| Zabulus | yeah | 00:24 |
| michael_ | I have a question about my flash drive: | 00:24 |
| Dr_willis | i would say to to the console and look at dmesg output - see if any messages are showingup about the mouse. You can upgrade/edit the soruces totally from the console if need be | 00:24 |
| michael_ | it used to come up when I plugged it in, and now I cant access it | 00:25 |
| michael_ | it lights up, but no ones home | 00:25 |
| adamonline45 | Dr_willis: Dang, now it won't even do what it WAS doing (showing the bouncy icon and a spot in the taskbar). I ran top and killed 2 amarok processes just before trying to run it from a terminal... | 00:25 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: sound corrupted, have you tried it on another machine ? | 00:26 |
| michael_ | yeah, my sound is currupted too lol | 00:26 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: that is what happens when you remove a SD card without unmounting is usually | 00:26 |
| adamonline45 | Dr_willis: My Adept Notifier isn't responding either... Hmm... | 00:27 |
| Linux_Galore | it* | 00:27 |
| DrUnKnMuNkY1 | hey everyone. my dsl connection seems to be dropping randomly about 5-6 times a day which is starting to get pretty annoying. does anyone know of any way to keep this from dropping? | 00:27 |
| NickPresta | adamonline45, I sometimes notice that behavior (amarok won't start) but only after X crashes and there is a zombie-like process left over. I have to `killall amarok*` and then it works just fine. | 00:27 |
| michael_ | yes, in fact it was being 'borrowed, by another machine | 00:27 |
| michael_ | working fine in that machine (using Windows)..... I bring it to mine and nothing | 00:28 |
| michael_ | its a flash drive | 00:28 |
| adamonline45 | NickPresta: I just typed that and it said 'no process killed'... | 00:28 |
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| Linux_Galore | NickPresta: two suggestions, rename the amorokrc file in /home/user-name/.kde/share/config to amarokrc-old and see if it fixes | 00:29 |
| Linux_Galore | amarokrc sorry | 00:30 |
| adamonline45 | Linux_Galore: I just initiated a reboot, but if it's still happening (as it was with the LAST reboot) then I'll try that :) | 00:30 |
| Linux_Galore | or just reinstall amarok ie remove it then install it again | 00:30 |
| adamonline45 | Linux_Galore: That's doable. I've seen a few means of removing with aptitude; which syntax would you recommend I use? | 00:31 |
| Dr_willis | removing amarok will NOT clear out the users settings.. if those are the casuse of the problem | 00:31 |
| adamonline45 | Dr_willis: Noted, ty | 00:32 |
| michael_ | can anyone help me with a sound issue? | 00:32 |
| Linux_Galore | Dr_willis: thats why I suggested renaming the amarokrc file first | 00:32 |
| Dr_willis | make a new user. see if it works for them. if so that shows that its a setting issue | 00:32 |
| Xcell | Is there a doctor in the house? | 00:32 |
| michael_ | I get nothig but static | 00:33 |
| Zabulus | ok, now that im on my kubuntu, what commands should i run after upgrading to gutsy? | 00:33 |
| Linux_Galore | Dr_willis: could also be a sql db error in the amorok setup hmm seen that before | 00:33 |
| michael_ | I can hear the sound in the 'background', but masked with heavy static | 00:33 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: sound like you have mute on | 00:34 |
| michael_ | I have SB Audigy 5.1 | 00:34 |
| michael_ | no | 00:34 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: do you have on board sound ? | 00:34 |
| Dr_willis | Hmm that card should be very well supported | 00:34 |
| michael_ | everyone I talk to so far are stumped | 00:34 |
| adamonline45 | Linux_Galore: Dr_willis: Ahh, cool, a second reboot fixed it! | 00:34 |
| Dr_willis | You using the digital out? | 00:34 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: ie on board and the and a sb card | 00:34 |
| michael_ | yes, do you think they are conflicting? | 00:35 |
| Zabulus | can someone help me, my mouse keeps on freezing up, just upgraded to gutsy in hopes of abandoning the problem, but its followed me | 00:35 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: no, whats happening is the machine is defaulting to your on board sound | 00:35 |
| Minataku | http://segakatana.com/images/hardware/dclp100/gdrom/test_ptn/pulse_s.bmp | 00:35 |
| ShawnRisk | I am not able to load the Monitor & Display module in the System Settings. Any ideas how to fix this? USing Kubuntu. the error message is: "the module Monitor & Display could not be loaded" and I searched google and got nowhere | 00:35 |
| michael_ | I thought I disabled the onboard sound, but not willing to bet my life on it | 00:36 |
| Zabulus | go to your bios and check | 00:36 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: oj type asound list | 00:36 |
| michael_ | I guess I will disable it in bios | 00:36 |
| michael_ | oh ok | 00:36 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: you will see two sound card/chipsets listed | 00:37 |
| michael_ | btw - i'm a newbie | 00:37 |
| crackhead_25_ | anyone have thoughts on ktorrent? i keep getting an input/output error reading from the cache of a file being downloaded.. fix? | 00:37 |
| adamonline45 | oh btw ty guys | 00:37 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: now what we will do is tell the sound manager what we want to set as the default | 00:37 |
| Dr_willis | could remove the old data/cache | 00:37 |
| michael_ | command not found | 00:37 |
| Zabulus | if anyone could help it would be greaty appreciated, mouse keeps on freezing up at random points, unplugging/replugging doesnt help, neither did upgrading to gutsy | 00:37 |
| nick_ | for some reason konquer puts my tabs on the bottom instead of the top............... how do i fix this | 00:37 |
| crackhead_25_ | Dr_willis: what do you mean? be more specific? | 00:38 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: sorry asoundconf list | 00:38 |
| michael_ | ahh k | 00:38 |
| Dr_willis | ktorrent has a cache dir. delete the offending data. of course it could be some sort of disk issue going on | 00:38 |
| crackhead_25_ | i deleted the data. it worked for a little bit, and then the same problem happened. | 00:38 |
| michael_ | gives only Audigy | 00:38 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: Im used to using autocomplete ie type asound [TAB] then list | 00:38 |
| mcrandello_ | Zabulus: what video card you have? | 00:39 |
| Dr_willis | sounds like the driv4e may be having some issues.. or somthign really really weird with ktorrent | 00:39 |
| Zabulus | ...nvidia 7600gt, why? | 00:39 |
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| adamonline45 | Does anyone know how to make my taskbar items (KBluetooth, KNetworkManager, Power Manager, etc.) not be displayed as widgets on the desktop, but in the taskbar next to KMix and Klipper, etc.? | 00:39 |
| crackhead_25_ | i can read and write to the drive through other means. i think the problem must be with ktorrent. | 00:39 |
| crackhead_25_ | how can i fix it, though? what could it be? | 00:39 |
| mcrandello | Zabulus: if it were a usb mouse and an ati card on a laptop I might have known a fix for it, sorry | 00:40 |
| Zabulus | thats ok, i wont be surprised if i never find a fix, im about to abandon linux entirely | 00:40 |
| GrahamA | Zabulus: MAN OVERBOARD! | 00:40 |
| Zabulus | been dealing with this mouse problem for over 12 months now | 00:40 |
| michael_ | Linux_Galore: since Audigy is the only one listed, does that mean that the on-board sound is disabled for sure? | 00:40 |
| GrahamA | Zabulus: Took me 2 years to get my wireless working. | 00:41 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card> not <card. is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list | 00:41 |
| lovedeatm | can anybody here help me with a printer issue....i already used the cups forum on ubuntu but it didnt tell me where to get it from | 00:41 |
| Zabulus | i gave up on wireless too, but i got around that | 00:41 |
| mcrandello | although some things to look out for are how many devices are sharing irq, in my case it was a wifi card, modem, video card and the usb bus, the usb was usually the thing that shut down first | 00:41 |
| Linux_Galore | now* | 00:41 |
| Zabulus | moved the modem, have internet wire to me, everyone else gets wireless | 00:41 |
| Zabulus | dont mind that, but not being able to use the mouse kinda su@#$ | 00:41 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: now type sudo soundconf set-default-card <card> now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list | 00:41 |
| GrahamA | Zabulus: What's your mouse issue? | 00:42 |
| Zabulus | mouse freezes up at random times after startup, the mouse works fine in win xp, so im thinking its some compatability issue | 00:42 |
| Zabulus | and no, unplugging and replugging does not help | 00:42 |
| michael_ | Linux_Galore: sudo: soundconf: command not found | 00:43 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: change your mouse configuration | 00:43 |
| mcrandello | that's what made me think irq issue, once my usb stopped it wouldn't restart without a boot | 00:43 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: asoundconf | 00:43 |
| michael_ | k | 00:43 |
| Zabulus | to what? | 00:43 |
| lovedeatm | Zabulus, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts? | 00:43 |
| Zabulus | ummm, yeah, i have a thought, why are you asking me? im a linux newbie | 00:44 |
| Linux_Galore | Zabulus: usually you can select the default protocol in the setup | 00:44 |
| lovedeatm | lol... | 00:44 |
| Linux_Galore | ie ms /logi / ps2 | 00:44 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, I need drivers for a HP Deskjet 830C and 832C printer. any thoughts? | 00:45 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: you dont need drivers for a HP printer | 00:45 |
| michael_ | Linux_Galore: got the list | 00:45 |
| Zabulus | ok, am i looking in the right place? system settings/keyboard and mouse? | 00:45 |
| Dr_willis | id just manually edit the xorg.conf file. :) but im old-skool | 00:46 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: HP printers generally use the same setup within each family, you dont need a specific one for a specific model | 00:46 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, then i have a definete printer issue because i can't print and i dont under stand why. i have the printer connect to an lpt port | 00:46 |
| Dr_willis | id also install gpm for the console and see if the mouse works in the console | 00:46 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: hold on let me get the liunux-printing url they have a help databse telling what setup is advised | 00:47 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, ok thanks | 00:47 |
| Linux_Galore | http://openprinting.org/printer_list.cgi | 00:48 |
| lovedeatm | k ill let you know if it worked | 00:48 |
| michael_ | !pastebin | 00:48 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 00:48 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: or you can just google the printer ie use www.google.com/linux | 00:48 |
| Dr_willis | cups.org has printer info also. :) | 00:49 |
| Zabulus | Linux_Galore: mouse configuration under system settings/keyboard and mouse or what? | 00:49 |
| michael_ | Linux_Galore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/47482/ | 00:49 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: I havent hit a HP printer yet that doesnt work with cups (common unix print system) that comes standard with ubuntu | 00:49 |
| Dr_willis | well HP has a low end color laser. that i hear has.. some what lacking.. linux support.. B/W worked.. but color dident. :( | 00:50 |
| Dr_willis | it may been fixed by now | 00:50 |
| Linux_Galore | I think HP have a opensource help site too for Linux | 00:51 |
| michael_ | yeah, I bought the HP OJ Pro L7680 just when the printer hit the shelves, brought it home and the driver was aiting for me when I got back home | 00:51 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: your ignoring me | 00:52 |
| Zabulus | im amazed my mouse hasnt frozen up already, but im afraid to open up too many programs | 00:52 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card> now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list | 00:52 |
| michael_ | I sent you a link | 00:52 |
| michael_ | see it? | 00:52 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: yes it means you only typed asoundconf without telling asoundconf what you want it to do | 00:53 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, so i went to the site and DLed the ppd jsut in case so how do i install..generlaly speaking | 00:53 |
| michael_ | oh | 00:53 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: lesseon 1, computers are idiots | 00:53 |
| Linux_Galore | lesson* | 00:53 |
| michael_ | ahh | 00:53 |
| Dr_willis | the ppd may allredy be inclided in the repos. I do recall there being some ppd packages not isntalled by default | 00:53 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: dont tell what to do they will ask questions | 00:54 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: now type sudo asoundconf set-default-card <card> now <card> is exactly what was listed when you typed asoundconf list | 00:54 |
| michael_ | sudo asoundconf set-default-Audigy | 00:54 |
| Zabulus | hey, where is the grub config file located? | 00:54 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: no - | 00:54 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: just a space | 00:54 |
| n1x0r | got an evms question, I'll check #evms, but wanted to try here first... is it possible to have more than one volume per region | 00:55 |
| Zabulus | #grub | 00:55 |
| fredy | !mp3 | me | 00:55 |
| ubotu | me: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 00:55 |
| Zabulus | !grub | 00:55 |
| ubotu | grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto | 00:55 |
| michael_ | just a space between where? | 00:56 |
| michael_ | Sorry. the computer AND me are stupid | 00:56 |
| michael_ | lol | 00:56 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: between the command and the card | 00:57 |
| Zabulus | ok, well, found the grub config file, now, to make sure, is it safe to delete lines out of it? | 00:57 |
| michael_ | ahh, got ya | 00:57 |
| michael_ | ok did it | 00:57 |
| michael_ | still have static | 00:59 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: reboot then run alsamixer | 00:59 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, so thank you for your help...it worked...for some reason i don't have any print drivers installed (or i just can't acces them even as a root)...any thought on that | 01:00 |
| michael_ | ok | 01:00 |
| blekos | hi,i had remote desktop enabled and run ktorrent after awhile i got a msg saying the remote user has closed the connection | 01:00 |
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| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: do you have cups turned on ? | 01:00 |
| Zabulus | ok, can someone help me with the grub? when i started the update to gutsy from feisty, it added to lines to the grub menu, is it ok to delete the 2 lines for what im guessing is feisty? | 01:01 |
| blekos | is it possible for ktorrent to somehow interact with remote desktop? | 01:01 |
| martijn81 | if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of package do i need then? | 01:01 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: K -> System Settings click on the advanced tab then click on services | 01:01 |
| northpunk | i have been using ubuntu for a week.. put kde desktop on today but my menu and bakground are still gnome (even the about gnome is tehre).. anyone know hoe wo completely remove gdm? | 01:01 |
| sub[t]rnl | !purekde | 01:02 |
| ubotu | purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 01:02 |
| northpunk | private me so it doesnt' get mixed up in the rest of the chat | 01:02 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: make sure cups is ticked to be started on boot and make sure it started if not start it | 01:02 |
| Dr_willis | You can configure/tweak grub all you want by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. BACKUP your original just in case. and its well worth reading the docs on grub at the grub homepage. to learn the ins and outs of grub | 01:02 |
| sub[t]rnl | Zabulus: ^^ | 01:03 |
| Dr_willis | northpunk, what menu and background are you refering to? You can easially change your desktop wallpaper. | 01:03 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, whers the tickER @ | 01:03 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: next to were it says cups | 01:04 |
| * flaccid_ pats his NAS | 01:04 |
| northpunk | when it starts up it showes the dubuntu blue desktop.. but then the dnome brown comes back (the gnome wallpapersr are in the list nothing else).. the top menu shows the ubuntu brown logo.. not the blue gears of kubuntu | 01:04 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, ok thanks | 01:04 |
| northpunk | and in the system where it has about ubuntu.. it has teh brown logo.. and has about gnome still | 01:04 |
| martijn81 | if i buy a macbook laptop with intel conroe cpu... what type of cd do i need then? powerpc or i386 | 01:04 |
| MaTiAz | i386 | 01:05 |
| northpunk | starts up as kubuntu fine.. but when it loads goes back to gnome (but i used apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop gdm) | 01:05 |
| Dr_willis | when whast starts up? The PC? or when X starts up? you may be refering to the boot up splash screen? | 01:05 |
| Dr_willis | Hmmm | 01:05 |
| Dr_willis | You dident need to remove ubuntu-desktop or gdm. | 01:05 |
| northpunk | i didn't like it anymore anyways | 01:05 |
| Dr_willis | sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm and be sure that kdm is selected.. | 01:05 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: make sure your in admin mode so click the button on the bottom right when you go into the services section | 01:05 |
| northpunk | povray only has an interface for kde not gnome anyways.. and that is what started my decision to change it | 01:05 |
| michael_ | ok, back and alsamixer is up | 01:06 |
| Dr_willis | You can easially run kde apps under gnome. : ) and gnome apps under kde.. heh.. | 01:06 |
| northpunk | when i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm it just goes back to my root line and doesn't display anything | 01:06 |
| michael_ | what do I need muted and what needs to be on other than the suround speakers of course | 01:07 |
| ardchoille | northpunk: Think about that for a second | 01:07 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: bugger they have changed it, right click on cupsd then if it isnt market with "yes" to the right and start then do the same again and start at boot | 01:07 |
| ardchoille | northpunk: If you're logged in as root, why would you use sudo? | 01:07 |
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| martijn81 | thanks MaTiAz, i might buy a macbook in the future the (if the screen resolution is mimimum 1920x1200) | 01:08 |
| northpunk | well i'm not on as root or su right now | 01:08 |
| * Linux_Galore admins rhel machines all day so gets mixed up with user settings layouts | 01:08 |
| lovedeatm | ok | 01:09 |
| Minataku | Don't buy Apple products. | 01:09 |
| Minataku | Support free and open standards. | 01:09 |
| michael_ | apple is nice | 01:09 |
| ardchoille | Minataku: Got it :) | 01:09 |
| Linux_Galore | Minataku: Ive got one, for the life of me I cant think what people say they are easier I find them terribly confusing | 01:09 |
| Minataku | Sure, if you think completely proprietary hardware is "nice". | 01:10 |
| GrahamA | Does anybody here play Enemy Territory? | 01:10 |
| GrahamA | Wolfenstein, not Quakr Wars | 01:10 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, im goign to system ---> printer right/ | 01:10 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: no "services" | 01:10 |
| michael_ | still have static | 01:10 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: in the advanced tab | 01:10 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: run alsamixer in a terminal | 01:11 |
| Minataku | Linux_Galore: OSX is based heavily off of NeXTSTEP, which was a horrible system if you ever had the misfortune of experiencing it | 01:11 |
| michael_ | got it up | 01:11 |
| michael_ | (they (we) are working you tonight, eh? | 01:11 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: check mute and levels in each, you should see a whole pile of controls | 01:11 |
| michael_ | I do | 01:11 |
| michael_ | mic is at 0 | 01:12 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: if you see all the controls that means the driver is working | 01:12 |
| michael_ | everything else looks good | 01:12 |
| michael_ | but I still get static | 01:12 |
| michael_ | I just switched from Suse and it worked great with that | 01:13 |
| Linux_Galore | michael_: find a wav file and type aplay file.wav | 01:13 |
| lovedeatm | i wish windows had this irc thingie..this make linuz so much easier than windows by like a conjillion times | 01:13 |
| Minataku | There are two controls that carry importance, at least on my card | 01:13 |
| Minataku | "Main" and "PCM" | 01:13 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: windows does have irc just no real community to talk of | 01:13 |
| Minataku | Set one to 100%, and adjust the other one as desired | 01:14 |
| martijn81 | macbook pro or thinkpad T60? | 01:14 |
| lovedeatm | o0o...lol...i wihs i had known about it then and that they had a community | 01:14 |
| RogueJediX | I'm pretty sure I've seen a windows channel here on freenode | 01:14 |
| Minataku | I set "Main" to 100% and adjust "PCM" | 01:14 |
| Minataku | martijn81: Thinkpad T60 | 01:14 |
| Minataku | But I personally and very highly recommend Toshiba laptops | 01:14 |
| Linux_Galore | RogueJediX: yeah, there are a few FOSS projects on windows but the community os very small | 01:15 |
| Linux_Galore | is* | 01:15 |
| michael_ | I played a MP3 and get all static | 01:15 |
| RogueJediX | Linux_Galore: Ah, I see | 01:15 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, cupsys = yes = running | 01:15 |
| Minataku | I've got two Toshiba machines running ATM | 01:15 |
| Linux_Galore | hard to have a community when one side keeps saying "we own it all and wont share", sort of puts a dent in the realtionship | 01:15 |
| Minataku | One is from 2003 and is my primary system | 01:15 |
| Minataku | The other is a collection piece from 1987 | 01:15 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: ok | 01:16 |
| devinus | when the hell will kde4 be released | 01:16 |
| NickPresta | !kde4 > devinus | 01:17 |
| lovedeatm | yeah...ok i think i'm throuhg with question for the night thanks all for the help..im sure ill be back for me..im working on a server...using ubuntu..anyway lataz | 01:17 |
| Minataku | When it's ready | 01:17 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: run sudo adept_manager | 01:17 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: lets get all the HP stuff installed | 01:17 |
| NickPresta | Linux_Galore, that should be kdesu, instead of sudo | 01:17 |
| michael_ | gotta go | 01:17 |
| lovedeatm | k | 01:17 |
| Linux_Galore | NickPresta: never used the k version in 3 years | 01:18 |
| michael_ | later folks, thanks | 01:18 |
| NickPresta | Linux_Galore, that's fine, but http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo | 01:18 |
| michael_ | I may have more time later | 01:18 |
| michael_ | thanks Linux_Galore: | 01:18 |
| Linux_Galore | NickPresta: I know, un-needed fluster | 01:18 |
| lovedeatm | ok so what do i now | 01:19 |
| Linux_Galore | type hp in the seach box | 01:19 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: what type of HP printer is it ? | 01:20 |
| Zabulus | now that my mouse is actually working, knock on wood, any suggestions on making the linux experience more pleasurable? | 01:20 |
| lovedeatm | its an deskjet 832C and 830C | 01:20 |
| Minataku | Hm | 01:21 |
| ardchoille | Zabulus: mplayer libdvdcss2 (medibuntu repo) | 01:21 |
| Minataku | I just noticed that the Toshiba T1200 keyboard has the Ctrl key in the Unix position | 01:21 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, 832C and 830C, i DLed the drivers though so it owrks now | 01:22 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: ok make sure the foomatic-hp-hpijs package is installed if not install it | 01:22 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: aah dont worry then | 01:22 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, lol yeah its installed and thanks... | 01:22 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: might be wise though to install the correct drivers package | 01:23 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: that way you get any updates automatically | 01:23 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, foomatic? yeah its installed | 01:24 |
| Dr_willis | I find that by using windows for some time.. when i come back to Linux.. i find linux very pleasureable.. :) | 01:25 |
| neville | Yes!! | 01:26 |
| neville | I agree! | 01:26 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: also hpijs | 01:26 |
| Zabulus | gahh, now i get to figure out why audio card isnt working... | 01:26 |
| Linux_Galore | I have mixed feeling, windows does some things better linux others | 01:26 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: networking working now? | 01:26 |
| Zabulus | my networking was fine, i was having problems with my mouse | 01:27 |
| Linux_Galore | I think it more to do with Linux not being supported by hardware makers than anything | 01:27 |
| Dr_willis | I find some programs FOR windows - do some things better then some programs for linux. :) | 01:27 |
| nosrednaekim | oh... yeah... thats right | 01:27 |
| Zabulus | now im trying to play music, but im not hearing anything | 01:27 |
| neville | Try them in Wine? | 01:27 |
| neville | I fiddled with it for a long time | 01:27 |
| Dr_willis | Vista seems to have been a step back in 'hardware' compatiability for a lot of my stuff... | 01:27 |
| neville | And got most everything of mine going fine in wine | 01:27 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: check and make sure all of the channels in kmix are maxxed and unmuted | 01:27 |
| neville | Except for some games | 01:27 |
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| Dr_willis | sucks when the HW makers decide to obsolete things. :) | 01:27 |
| Linux_Galore | I think Linux/BSD etc have an edge over windows thanks to the community | 01:28 |
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| Dr_willis | Im not sure how well Nero 8 would work with wine. Id live to see all of Nero8 and its tools ported to linux | 01:28 |
| Linux_Galore | I think Linux doesnt sell the community aspect enough and just talks software | 01:28 |
| Linux_Galore | Microsoft Achilles heal is the lack of a free and open community | 01:29 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | Helo everybody | 01:29 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | i am right now on my Kubuntu Live CD | 01:29 |
| Zabulus | everything in kmix is good | 01:29 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, i just installed hpijs like you said anything else i should do? | 01:29 |
| neville | See | 01:29 |
| neville | If Linux had a footprint bigger than <1% | 01:30 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: well you can look at the other packages and see what you like but thats all I installed form my HP jet stuff | 01:30 |
| neville | I'm sure we'd get alot of the Windows software too | 01:30 |
| neville | =] | 01:30 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: hrm... what audio chipset? | 01:30 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | im going to reinstall Kubuntu again | 01:30 |
| Zabulus | i have a soundblaster audigy 4 | 01:30 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | due to previous problems | 01:31 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, ok, can you have a look at this question and give me your thought http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19501 | 01:31 |
| nosrednaekim | !hardware | Zabulus look it up on this page | 01:31 |
| ubotu | Zabulus look it up on this page: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport | 01:31 |
| Dr_willis | audigy 4? that the xi-fi card? | 01:31 |
| Dr_willis | or is it called X-fi - i forget. | 01:32 |
| Zabulus | thats whats weird, i think it was working with feisty | 01:33 |
| Zabulus | maybe the bios turned my onboard audio back on... | 01:33 |
| NickPresta | Dr_willis, it's X-Fi, but that isn't the same as the audigy 4 card, IIRC | 01:33 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: why RTSS, I just use nfs | 01:33 |
| Dr_willis | Well last i heard the 'x-fi' cards for some odd reason - creative had released 64bit drivers.. but not 32bit drivers... | 01:34 |
| lovedeatm | whats nfs... | 01:34 |
| Dr_willis | I havent kept up on it lately. My Audigy2 is still doing the job. :) | 01:34 |
| Dr_willis | !nfs | 01:34 |
| ubotu | nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS. | 01:34 |
| NickPresta | Dr_willis, yeah. I was checking it out today: http://connect.creativelabs.com/linux/default.aspx | 01:34 |
| Linux_Galore | !nfs | 01:34 |
| NickPresta | Dr_willis, the 64bit drivers aren't too great but at least they're available :) | 01:34 |
| Dr_willis | Yep. Creative really dropped the ball with their x-fi stuf.. i was going to get one.. but decided to not bother. | 01:35 |
| lovedeatm | !nfs > lovedeatm | 01:35 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: user | | 01:35 |
| lovedeatm | thats for the file sharing side...RTSS is for streaming audio | 01:36 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: user | subject | 01:36 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | funny how i can install Linux very easily and run whatever programs i want at the same time | 01:36 |
| N1ghtm4r3 | the only problem to this is that my computer's fan becomes very loud lol! | 01:36 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: what not icecast | 01:37 |
| Zabulus | well, i think ill check bios to see if onboard got activated somehow | 01:37 |
| Zabulus | brb | 01:37 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: why not icecast | 01:37 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, i have icecast...im more concerned about the workstations part of the question | 01:38 |
| refreshrate | i want to make a keyboard shortcut for /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh, i changed its permission, but i still cant use it w/o being root. anything i can do? | 01:38 |
| lovedeatm | because i still need to be able to run things like final cut pro and garagband on the mac\ | 01:38 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: aaah proprietary lock in | 01:39 |
| Linux_Galore | ilife<- talks to -> ilife | 01:40 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder | 01:40 |
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| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, i know on windows i could install mac stuff on to windows if i install it in a mac enviorment..can i do the same with linux i guess is the important question..then just set permissions on linux to that folder. can i do that | 01:43 |
| Zabulus | yay, simple fix | 01:43 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: havwent got a clue I only have 1 apple machine and I dont use it for media | 01:43 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: works now? | 01:44 |
| Zabulus | yep, my onboard audio somehow got turned back on | 01:44 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: what was the fix for the mouse? | 01:44 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, o...i have a top that won't install linux on it...thats another log gruling thing and im sure your tired and dont want to help woth that its late ya'now | 01:44 |
| Zabulus | now im just hoping that doesnt mess something up with my win xp | 01:44 |
| Zabulus | im not actually sure what fixed the mouse, im not even sure its entirely fixed or if i havent set off whatever triggers it to freeze | 01:45 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: Ive got a G3 lap and Linux is not well supported on ppc anymore Im finding | 01:45 |
| nosrednaekim | Linux_Galore: yellow-dog is supposed to be good | 01:45 |
| Linux_Galore | lovedeatm: unless you have a server then its fine | 01:46 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: XD | 01:46 |
| Zabulus | ok, any more suggestions for a better linux experience? | 01:46 |
| Zabulus | yeah, i keep knocking on wood every time i say my mouse is working | 01:46 |
| Zabulus | knock on wood | 01:46 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: don't do anything until you know exactly what it does. | 01:46 |
| lovedeatm | Linux_Galore, lol not a server check it out...this is what happened after following all the directions for a G# lombard, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/19141 | 01:46 |
| Zabulus | now i have to figure out which of my games i can play on linux | 01:47 |
| lovedeatm | G38 | 01:47 |
| lovedeatm | G3* | 01:47 |
| nosrednaekim | UT2004, Doom, Neverwinter NIghts | 01:47 |
| jembouge | Neverwinter Nights great | 01:48 |
| jembouge | :p | 01:48 |
| jembouge | works all fine | 01:48 |
| Linux_Galore | wow works pretty well under wine now | 01:48 |
| smooker | hi all, i have problems with the sound, i cant put the sound UP its like 30% and my KMix doesnt work .. | 01:48 |
| Linux_Galore | smooker: run alsamixer | 01:49 |
| Zabulus | well, which doom? and how about unreal anthology? | 01:49 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: all of the dooms | 01:50 |
| Zabulus | awesome | 01:50 |
| Linux_Galore | there is also a pile of open source doom engine games | 01:50 |
| * Zabulus grabs doom trilogy | 01:50 |
| nosrednaekim | Wolfenstein is good too | 01:50 |
| nosrednaekim | as well as Saurbraten | 01:50 |
| Linux_Galore | also some unreal engine based games too | 01:50 |
| nosrednaekim | Alien Arena for example | 01:51 |
| Zabulus | i think i have too many games | 01:51 |
| Zabulus | nahhhh | 01:51 |
| smooker | thanks it was like 70% in alexamixer but stil not hearing as before | 01:52 |
| ardchoille | Zabulus: No such thing as "too many games" | 01:52 |
| smooker | proubly i have other mixers with the players come ? | 01:52 |
| Linux_Galore | Im am mame person and Linux is the king of emulation support | 01:52 |
| Linux_Galore | a* | 01:52 |
| Zabulus | yes there is, when you dont have enough time to play 1/4 of the games you have | 01:52 |
| user_ | soup all... i have Feisty installed on an old lappy. the cd-rom recently died. would i be able to download the Gusty .iso and mount it while runny Feisty to install 7.10? | 01:53 |
| Linux_Galore | I must be the only person with over 40 different version or space invaders | 01:53 |
| Zabulus | you should be able to use feisty do update, not have to use image | 01:53 |
| user_ | Zabulus: I have a corrupted version of 7.04 already :/ | 01:53 |
| Linux_Galore | I must be the only person with over 40 different versions of space invaders | 01:54 |
| Zabulus | ouch | 01:54 |
| Zabulus | you said that | 01:54 |
| user_ | zabulus: i have no directory other than "root" | 01:54 |
| user_ | zabulus: which contains "desktop" and thats *all* | 01:54 |
| Zabulus | how the hell did you do that? | 01:54 |
| ardchoille | Are you viewing "hidden" files/folders? | 01:55 |
| user_ | zabulus: don't know. booting one day, it said it found errors on the disk, and to run fsck. So i did, and when i finally was able to get into X, everything was gone | 01:55 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: sudo -s then look | 01:55 |
| user_ | ardchoille, linux_galore: i can try that, but i'd like to do a fresh install of 7.10 | 01:56 |
| Zabulus | 40 different versions of space invaders, i think ive played 10-20 different versions, dont have any installed on my comp | 01:56 |
| user_ | am i able to mount the .iso while running Feisty? | 01:56 |
| user_ | networking is all i have that still works | 01:56 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: standard user on 7.04 cant view root directories from memory | 01:56 |
| Zabulus | have a few versions for ps2, one of those "collections" games | 01:56 |
| neville | Has anybody here ever given Virtualbox a go before? | 01:57 |
| user_ | linux_galore: maybe i phrased it wrong - when i open konqueror, it automatically opens root (file:///), and in there is "Desktop". There are *no* other directories (ie, /usr, /bin/ /home) | 01:57 |
| neville | If so, what was the performance like? | 01:57 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: correct that is exactly right | 01:58 |
| user_ | linux_galore: so what is the fix? | 01:58 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: you opened konqueror as a "user" users dont change root directories on root does | 01:58 |
| Linux_Galore | only* | 01:58 |
| nosrednaekim | neville: works great here | 01:59 |
| user_ | i used to be able to view all directories before, now i can't even open /home | 01:59 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: type sudo konqueror | 01:59 |
| user_ | ok, so what changed? | 01:59 |
| user_ | why could i view all my directories before, but not now? | 01:59 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: basically your user isnt an administrator | 01:59 |
| mcrandello | neville: I'm running windows in it, it's not much slower than native | 01:59 |
| Zabulus | hey, is there a game like bust a move that i can dl? | 01:59 |
| mcrandello | neville: having some problems with drm devices though which kind of makes it moot | 01:59 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: check your user settings, basically your machine is in normal secure mode | 02:00 |
| user_ | linux_galore: so i do i revert back to the way it was? | 02:00 |
| user_ | linux_galore: i wouldn't know where to look, as i didn't knowingly change anything- this all started after running fsck | 02:00 |
| mcrandello | neville: also turn off composite effects on the DT if you want to run windows in seamless mode, it causes refresh problems otherwise | 02:00 |
| neville | Ahh | 02:00 |
| neville | Because, I wasp lanning on putting Windows 98 on it, and seeing if Starcraft would run well | 02:01 |
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| neville | Due to Wine not entirely liking Starcraft | 02:01 |
| mcrandello | I don't think it does accellerated 3d if it uses that | 02:01 |
| neville | Starcraft is direct draw 3 =] | 02:01 |
| Zabulus | hehe, bomberman!!! | 02:01 |
| neville | Only needs a 90MHz processor, 16Mb ram | 02:02 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: The root directory (/) contains a file called /.hidden. Open this in a text editor and delete the names of the directories which you want to have shown. | 02:02 |
| MaTiAz | insane requirements. | 02:02 |
| neville | Tell that to me when I had my pentium 90, and I'll be inclined to agree =P | 02:02 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: you will have to open the file with sudo | 02:02 |
| neville | Thanks for the input though mcrandello | 02:03 |
| Zabulus | so whats a good version of bomberman on here? | 02:03 |
| Linux_Galore | ksudo kedit | 02:03 |
| Zabulus | multiplayer version hopefully... | 02:03 |
| user_ | linux_galore: thanks! that probably will work. But now, I'm still interested in being able to mount an .iso of 7.10 (seems better to do fresh install - people have had issues upgrading). Is this possible? | 02:04 |
| Linux_Galore | !upgrade | 02:04 |
| ubotu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 02:04 |
| user_ | Linux_Galore: i don't want to upgrade- I want to do a fresh install, hopefully without the aid of flash drive (don't have one) or cd-rom (recently died) | 02:05 |
| nosrednaekim | user_: I don't suppose it can net-boot? | 02:06 |
| user_ | linux_galore: if this isn't possible, i'll try the upgrade | 02:06 |
| mcrandello | user_: that's going to be very complicated I would think | 02:06 |
| ardchoille | user_: How many hard drives do you have? | 02:06 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: just upgrade, it will just replace the old packages | 02:06 |
| user_ | ardchoille: only one | 02:06 |
| mcrandello | partitions? | 02:06 |
| ardchoille | user_: Ok, you're going to need one partition to use while the installer is running and another partition to hold the new system it is installing to. Can you see why that wouldn't be a good thing with only one drive? | 02:07 |
| Zabulus | hey, does anyone know of a good multiplayer online version of bomberman? the more like bomberman party edition it is the better | 02:07 |
| user_ | ardchoille: yeah, i understand... fortunately, repartitoning is fairly easy | 02:07 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: think about the path your taking, have you got a spare 3 hours | 02:08 |
| ardchoille | Linux_Galore: That's exactly what I was trying to get user_ to realise | 02:08 |
| user_ | ok, i get it! :) I'll re-open hidden files, and upgrade like everyone else | 02:09 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: basically with Linux almost anything can be done, the down side is your going to have to blow 3-4 hours way of your time to get there | 02:09 |
| Linux_Galore | away* | 02:09 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: the hidden files are not hidden to the root user only to the normal user | 02:10 |
| user_ | linux_galore: why would it take 3 hours to mount 2 drives and copy an O/S to one? | 02:10 |
| nosrednaekim | as onlg as you have "cp" anything is possible | 02:10 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: updates are a root process so those directories wont be hidden | 02:10 |
| user_ | linux_galore: ok, so i can skip that step if i just want to upgrade, right? | 02:10 |
| user_ | I can just use | 02:11 |
| user_ | Adept to upgrade then? | 02:11 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: backup files, resize partitions, partition hard disk, the list goes on | 02:12 |
| Linux_Galore | user_: just read the following link | 02:12 |
| Linux_Galore | !upgrade | 02:12 |
| ubotu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes | 02:12 |
| user_ | alright, alright. I'll try it. thanks everyone for the help! | 02:13 |
| Linux_Galore | heh | 02:14 |
| Linux_Galore | I usually just save /home and flush the system | 02:14 |
| ardchoille | Better to put /home on its own partition | 02:15 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: I do that but I have had installers totally ignore my instructions and stuff up /home | 02:15 |
| nosrednaekim | Linux_Galore: eh?never had that happen.. | 02:16 |
| Xcell | finally | 02:17 |
| deuryte | xcell | 02:17 |
| Xcell | ya | 02:17 |
| Xcell | Everything ok? | 02:18 |
| ardchoille | Linux_Galore: Oh, that's not good. | 02:18 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: yeah especially when I didnt back it up for a month | 02:18 |
| deuryte | its still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial, | 02:19 |
| deuryte | i finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial | 02:19 |
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| Xcell | Deu: brb..stand by. | 02:19 |
| Linux_Galore | think it was a red hat bug on the installer ie use whole disk but not this bit conflict | 02:19 |
| Linux_Galore | so now I always backup the /home directory/partition | 02:20 |
| Xcell | k | 02:22 |
| deuryte | its still ubuntu, i couldnt get the modem to dial, | 02:22 |
| deuryte | i finally through much trial and error got it to query, and it goes on to initialize, but will not get the dial tone nor dial | 02:22 |
| Linux_Galore | man I totally love my N810 with canola 2 (media player) | 02:23 |
| Xcell | Tomorrow..bring the modem and sys with you..k? | 02:23 |
| Linux_Galore | got my holidays coming up so i can take some movies that I havent watched yet and sit on the beach and relaxe | 02:23 |
| deuryte | let me try a little more 1st | 02:23 |
| Linux_Galore | ?modem | 02:24 |
| Xcell | k stand bye...ask ardchoille he can help. | 02:24 |
| deuryte | serial modems are the only way !!! | 02:24 |
| Linux_Galore | god no, not dial up I hope | 02:24 |
| deuryte | if u saw where i lived, youde be concidered rich to have even that | 02:25 |
| Xcell | ardchoille: I put brand new Kubuntu using high speed..he took it home and has dial up. | 02:25 |
| ardchoille | eeewww @ dialup | 02:25 |
| * ardchoille knows nothing about dialup | 02:25 |
| Linux_Galore | deuryte: Im spoilt I must admit 22mb connection | 02:25 |
| deuryte | yum, yum. he he he i luv dial up!! | 02:25 |
| Xcell | He has no choice ardchoille. | 02:25 |
| Linux_Galore | Xcell: satelite | 02:26 |
| Xcell | Please walk him through it.thanks | 02:26 |
| jaz_ | umm hi | 02:26 |
| Linux_Galore | I spent 20 years on dialup, never will I go back | 02:27 |
| Linux_Galore | 1200 baud terminal connections argh! | 02:27 |
| Linux_Galore | hai jaz | 02:27 |
| deuryte | mine is 1201... | 02:27 |
| deuryte | got the hi speed dial up/ | 02:27 |
| Linux_Galore | heh | 02:28 |
| jaz_ | i just got Kubuntu Running ^-^ | 02:28 |
| Linux_Galore | I remember my first 56K modem, I saved up for a month | 02:28 |
| Xcell | deu: http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s06.html | 02:28 |
| deuryte | 4 | 02:28 |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: welcome to freedom | 02:28 |
| Linux_Galore | someone should create a "So you have installed Kubuntu what now" howto | 02:29 |
| jaz_ | lol | 02:29 |
| jaz_ | im trying to update my Graphics driver atm | 02:30 |
| Xcell | Deu is my physical brother, be nice or i will......you know..lol. | 02:30 |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: I used envy | 02:30 |
| Linux_Galore | !envy | 02:30 |
| ubotu | envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » | 02:30 |
| ardchoille | !nvy | 02:30 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about nvy - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 02:30 |
| deuryte | xcell, site didnt diclose enough, will be searching........ | 02:30 |
| jaz_ | Envy? | 02:31 |
| Xcell | k | 02:31 |
| Xcell | deu: google (dailup) kubuntu. | 02:31 |
| deuryte | w2ktu rocks | 02:31 |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: install envy ksudo apt-get install envy then run it with ksudo envy | 02:32 |
| jaz_ | ok, ill check it out | 02:32 |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: it install ati/nvidia drivers for you | 02:32 |
| Linux_Galore | installs | 02:33 |
| jaz_ | ok kewl thnks for the tip | 02:33 |
| === antiNeo is now known as auntieNeo |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: actuall you need to type ksudo envy -g | 02:34 |
| Linux_Galore | actually* | 02:34 |
| Linux_Galore | jaz_: that will give you the easy to use graphical installer | 02:35 |
| nosrednaekim | no! do NOT use envy! | 02:35 |
| nosrednaekim | !envy | 02:35 |
| ubotu | envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » | 02:35 |
| Xcell | deuryte: http://www.kubuntu.org/doc/7.10/network/C/connect-modems.html#dialup-config | 02:35 |
| Linux_Galore | nosrednaekim: Ive used it heaps of times with no issues | 02:35 |
| nosrednaekim | !worksforme | 02:35 |
| ubotu | Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/ | 02:35 |
| Linux_Galore | nosrednaekim: On different platforms | 02:36 |
| deuryte | nice one !! ill try that one out !! xcell | 02:37 |
| Xcell | k | 02:37 |
| Xcell | hey..do my full nic so I can hear you when im busy | 02:37 |
| === semistud2354 is now known as NIXX |
| === NIXX is now known as NIXPIX |
| deuryte | xcell. was that it? | 02:38 |
| NIXPIX | hey guys i have a question i have no clue where to start...i installed the ATI 200m driver into my feisty64 bit | 02:38 |
| NIXPIX | and when i have special effects...ex shutdown...screen goes grey | 02:38 |
| deuryte | oh, i woulndt of done that | 02:38 |
| Xcell | dom as it asks..then we will go from there | 02:38 |
| NIXPIX | it gives me these 2 glitch bars... | 02:39 |
| NIXPIX | on thee bottom right of my screen | 02:39 |
| NIXPIX | there about an inch long...and about an inch apart from eachother... | 02:39 |
| NIXPIX | i tryed screencapturing it...and it didnt show up on the picture | 02:39 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: did you enable compiz in your xorg file ? | 02:40 |
| NIXPIX | how do i check | 02:40 |
| Linux_Galore | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be right on the end of the file | 02:41 |
| Xcell | deuryte: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdenetwork/kppp/index.html | 02:41 |
| deuryte | 4 | 02:41 |
| NIXPIX | like its just there...same spot...everytime...it doesnt impead anything i do...but i am unable now to go into like...desplay manager..in system settings | 02:41 |
| Linux_Galore | section "Extensions" option "Composite" "Disable" EndSection | 02:41 |
| deuryte | actually, it already has that in it... the hand book. i just saw it before i gave up, ill go back to it later. | 02:42 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: you should see "Enable" | 02:42 |
| NIXPIX | at the top | 02:43 |
| Xcell | k if U want to..bring back and ill get it working k? | 02:43 |
| NIXPIX | o srry end | 02:43 |
| Xcell | tomorrow. | 02:43 |
| NIXPIX | i see extentions composite enable | 02:43 |
| deuryte | bi-nutu........ for those who like it both ways.... | 02:43 |
| NIXPIX | so i set it to disable | 02:43 |
| NIXPIX | ? | 02:43 |
| deuryte | 4 | 02:43 |
| Xcell | k | 02:43 |
| Xcell | Do not do any sys settings..do not. | 02:44 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: no enable if you want effect disable if you dont | 02:44 |
| deuryte | xcell ok, but for now, you too can read up on it, the kppp handbook is factory... | 02:44 |
| NIXPIX | i dont have compiz | 02:44 |
| NIXPIX | i just want to watch my movies in open gl | 02:44 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: then disable it | 02:44 |
| Xcell | I have..tomorrow U will be happy..just vring the modem (with) you..k? | 02:45 |
| Xcell | bring | 02:45 |
| Xcell | And dont gorget the cables. | 02:45 |
| deuryte | 4 | 02:45 |
| NIXPIX | effects...like...transparacy | 02:45 |
| Xcell | Did boot the monitor ok? | 02:45 |
| === eduardiyo is now known as Eduardiyo |
| Linux_Galore | I find compiz sucks for video playing | 02:45 |
| nosrednaekim | indeed | 02:46 |
| NIXPIX | so that graying effect is gone...when composit= disable | 02:46 |
| deuryte | it didnt need any changes, i tryd but it kept same settings... | 02:46 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: yes | 02:46 |
| NIXPIX | hmm... | 02:46 |
| NIXPIX | and transparacy | 02:46 |
| NIXPIX | of my windows | 02:46 |
| Xcell | nice..U r fine then..bring tomorrow and we will settle things.. | 02:46 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: transparency is there just not the effects | 02:47 |
| NIXPIX | o | 02:47 |
| Xcell | Nuff said. | 02:47 |
| NIXPIX | so if i want to disable do i need a capital letter | 02:47 |
| NIXPIX | is it Disable...or just disable | 02:47 |
| Zabulus | damned, my mouse just froze... | 02:47 |
| deuryte | what do you think it is?? it queries and finds the modem, but when i attempt to dial out, it doesnt go any further than to initialize..... | 02:47 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: I think it works either way | 02:47 |
| NIXPIX | ok...so how do i test to see if that solved the prob | 02:48 |
| Xcell | It has to be configured...tomorrow..not now. | 02:48 |
| Zabulus | ok, how do i stop my mouse from freezing? | 02:48 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: press ctrl alt backspace | 02:48 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: that will restart the xserver | 02:49 |
| NIXPIX | kkk...brb | 02:49 |
| neo | Guys I am running kubuntu 7.10 with 512mb ram and right now i have Konversation open with dual monitor setup and the number of free ram memory is 112mb(22%). Is it normal because my system is going slow and is it due to dualhead? | 02:51 |
| === semistud2354 is now known as NIXPIX |
| NIXPIX | um..i tryed disable as well as Disable | 02:51 |
| NIXPIX | and i still get thise bars | 02:51 |
| NIXPIX | and i still get the grey effects | 02:51 |
| NIXPIX | where it greys down...when you go to shutdown | 02:52 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: no looks like you have something sucking up your ram run ksudo ksysguard | 02:52 |
| nyork | @neo yep.. try ksysguard. it will show what is eating up your resources | 02:52 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: thats not a compiz effect | 02:52 |
| NIXPIX | o | 02:53 |
| hrp2171 | seasons greetings! need help! how do i become root during live cd session? need to recover some files off a laptop. thank you. | 02:53 |
| NIXPIX | i still get the bars | 02:53 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: thats been around for years | 02:53 |
| NIXPIX | o | 02:53 |
| NIXPIX | like...i just need to know where to start searching for an answer | 02:53 |
| nyork | hrp2171: root of the installed system or root of the livecd? | 02:54 |
| Zabulus | ok, i need help, my mouse keeps freezing, i thought it was fixed, but, apparently not | 02:54 |
| neo | Is VMsize the size of the memory an app be using? | 02:54 |
| NIXPIX | like...its so incredibly strange... | 02:54 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: the bars I suspect are an error in your setup ie refresh/resolution is out fo sync | 02:54 |
| Linux_Galore | of* | 02:54 |
| NIXPIX | and? | 02:54 |
| hrp2171 | become root while using the live cd. the laptop's drive won't boot and need to recover some files off from it. ive already mounted the partition but cant see inside it. | 02:54 |
| NIXPIX | change desktop size | 02:54 |
| NIXPIX | ? | 02:54 |
| adamonline45 | Is there a way to adjust gamma or overall screen brightness? | 02:55 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: well I usually just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 02:55 |
| NIXPIX | that SHOULD fix...or tell me whats wrong | 02:55 |
| Xcell | deu: I am in another room say my full nic when needed. | 02:55 |
| Xcell | deuryte | 02:55 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: that allows you to play with the settings, its a helper app | 02:56 |
| neo | Guys there are so many processes in Ksysguard, what to do? | 02:56 |
| nyork | neo: what live cd are you using? kubuntu? | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | o | 02:56 |
| hrp2171 | ran sudo mount /dev/sda1 to-mount-point but the ubuntu live cd user cant cd into it | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | xserver driver... | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | uhh | 02:56 |
| Zabulus | need help, my mouse keeps on freezing up | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | what do i say to that | 02:56 |
| neo | Its not live its installed on my hdd. | 02:56 |
| neo | yes its Kubuntu | 02:56 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: it should show a list of drivers | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | so what do i pic | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | pick | 02:56 |
| deuryte | xcell | 02:56 |
| NIXPIX | fglrx | 02:57 |
| NIXPIX | ? | 02:57 |
| nyork | hrp2171: what live cd are you using? kubuntu? | 02:57 |
| sub[t]rnl | adamonline45: System settings -> monitors -> color & gamma. (and the actual monitor of course) | 02:57 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: what ever suites your card | 02:57 |
| Xcell | ya | 02:57 |
| NIXPIX | i have an ati 200m | 02:57 |
| hrp2171 | 6.06LTS Kubuntu. also the hd partition is mounted ntfs rw | 02:57 |
| nyork | neo: try killing some of the process... | 02:57 |
| Linux_Galore | NIXPIX: fglrx sounds right, if you get it wrong you can run the command again | 02:58 |
| hrp2171 | i tried su - but no password works to switch to root access. | 02:58 |
| Zabulus | need help, my mouse keeps on freezing up, can anyone assist me? | 02:58 |
| neo | Can I list say five or ten processes name here at a time and you can tell me which ones to kill? | 02:58 |
| ardchoille | hrp2171: You don't need su, use sudo | 02:58 |
| nyork | hrp2171: try sudo su | 02:58 |
| === ubuntu is now known as Linha |
| NIXPIX | this might help...when i installed the gl driver from restricted drivers manager | 02:59 |
| hrp2171 | awesome nyork | 02:59 |
| nyork | neo: yep.. let's try.. | 02:59 |
| NIXPIX | it didnt have this problem | 02:59 |
| hrp2171 | thanks | 02:59 |
| ardchoille | nyork: That's not recommended nor supported. | 02:59 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: started happening again? | 02:59 |
| nyork | hrp2171: you are the root user now? :-) | 02:59 |
| Zabulus | yep... | 02:59 |
| Zabulus | i was doing different stuff, tried to go to myspace, and it froze | 03:00 |
| hrp2171 | ardchoille: im using the live cd to recover some files off my niece's laptop because the drive won't boot anymore. | 03:00 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: any clue at all what you did? do a "dmesg" see if the kernel is doing something. | 03:00 |
| Linux_Galore | sudo -c is not to be used unless you have your head screwed on | 03:00 |
| neo | acpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd | 03:00 |
| Zabulus | seems like it happens when the computer is loading something | 03:00 |
| ardchoille | sudo is all that is needed. Been using it for years and haven't needed anyting else | 03:00 |
| hrp2171 | Linux_Galore: i know how to run with scissors LOL | 03:00 |
| deuryte | xcell | 03:01 |
| Zabulus | ummmm, dmesg has a nice long output | 03:01 |
| Kr4t05 | VOICE ME NIGGERS | 03:01 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: depends, I often have long admin sessions and sudo can be annoying | 03:01 |
| Xcell | ya | 03:01 |
| nyork | neo: list all process not only those for the user | 03:01 |
| deuryte | the "j" room is now back open... | 03:01 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: just look at the last 20 lines or so( if you haven't rebooted since your mouse froze) | 03:02 |
| neo | Its all, should I list enter more now. | 03:02 |
| Xcell | lol b right there. | 03:02 |
| polo2 | sources.list.save is a backup of the original sources.list? | 03:02 |
| Xcell | lol not 4 me. | 03:02 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: for 5 minute admin sessions sudo is fine but for reconfiguring apache or mysql on a server forget it | 03:02 |
| nosrednaekim | polo2: maybe. | 03:02 |
| === cheguevara is now known as Che|sleep |
| Zabulus | am i looking for something specific? im too new to linux... | 03:03 |
| ardchoille | Linux_Galore: sudo vim apache2.conf? | 03:03 |
| polo2 | maybe? is posible not? | 03:03 |
| nyork | neo: in the process table tab .... you can use the list all processes drop down... | 03:03 |
| Linux_Galore | ardchoille: 1 file, now the other few thousand root only files I have | 03:03 |
| adamonline45 | sub[t]rnl: Alright cool, thank you! My color still doesn't match a gif I made in gimp when viewed from my windows computer... | 03:03 |
| RobertoM_[away] | Linux_Galore: maybe you miss sudo -s ? :-) | 03:04 |
| RobertoM_[away] | The real problem with sudo is that if you mess with your hostname, you're out of your PC | 03:04 |
| Linux_Galore | yeah sorry typo sudo -s | 03:05 |
| === narg_ is now known as narg |
| Linux_Galore | sigh, to many command flags | 03:05 |
| deuryte | xcell, non responding | 03:05 |
| mcrandello | is -s similar to -i? | 03:05 |
| Xcell | ya I cant go.lol | 03:06 |
| Zabulus | nosrednaekim: am i looking for something specific? | 03:06 |
| nyork | mcrandello: -s: shows sizes with -l. -l only show long list format | 03:07 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: anything to do with USB or mouse | 03:07 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: did you reboot since it froze last? | 03:07 |
| Zabulus | nope | 03:07 |
| RobertoM_[away] | mcrandello: (if you where talking about sudo :-) ) similar but not the same. -s only starts a shell in the current dir, -i simulates a login for the root user | 03:08 |
| Zabulus | i dont see anything about usb or mouse... | 03:08 |
| Linux_Galore | sudo -i changes the user variable -s doesnt ie $PATH etc | 03:08 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: soo how are you working without a mouse? | 03:08 |
| Zabulus | alt+tab and what not | 03:09 |
| RobertoM_[away] | 4am... time to go to sleep for me ^^' good night to all | 03:09 |
| mcrandello | RobertoM_[away]: so then -s would be a lot handier in a lot of instances where I don't want to change dirs to /root | 03:09 |
| mcrandello | (night) | 03:09 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: lol, ok....try doing "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and look at the last 20 or so lines of that for anything relating to mouse or input | 03:09 |
| hrp2171 | thanks guys. worked wonderfully. | 03:09 |
| Xcell | deuryte | 03:10 |
| deuryte | yo | 03:10 |
| Linux_Galore | mcrandello: yes if you what to stick to your admin user variables -s is better | 03:10 |
| Xcell | whats up | 03:10 |
| ardchoille | tail -lines 20 /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 03:10 |
| deuryte | pondering modemic epidemic | 03:10 |
| neo | acpid, aio/0 artsd aspell ata/0 ata-aux atd avahi-daemon bash cron cupsd dbus-daemon dcopserver dd dhsdbd dhclient events/0 getty hald hald-addon-acpi hald-addon-keyb hald-addon-stor hald-runner hcid init kaccess kacpid kacpi_notify katapult kblockd/0 kblueplugd kded kdeinit kdesktop kdm khelper khubd kicker kinfocenter kio_file kio_uiserver kjournald klauncher klipper klogd kmix knetworkmanager knotify kondemand/0 konqueror konsole konversation kpsmoused | 03:10 |
| neo | krfcommd kseriod ksmserver ksoftirqd/0 ksuspend_usbd kswapd0 ksysguard ksysguardd kthreadd kwin kwrapper migration/0 NetworkManager NetworkManagerD pdflush scsi_eh_0 scsi_eh_1 sh ssh-agent start_kdeinit syslogd udevd watchdog/0 Xorg s-session-manag | 03:10 |
| ardchoille | oops, should be --lines | 03:10 |
| Zabulus | yeah, pretty much everything i can see has to do with input/mouse | 03:11 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: can you pastebin it? | 03:11 |
| neo | Well these are all of the processes, which one to stop and how | 03:11 |
| Zabulus | ummm, not really | 03:11 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: in ksysguard ? | 03:11 |
| nosrednaekim | Zabulus: you registered? if so...PM me and paste it there | 03:11 |
| neo | yes | 03:11 |
| nyork | neo: you can sort these processes such that it is arranged from process intensive to lesser | 03:12 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: select it then stop it with the button down the bottom | 03:12 |
| Zabulus | ok, but it might take a while, and it might be a mess | 03:12 |
| neo | VMsize? | 03:12 |
| nyork | neo; just click the "System%" on top | 03:12 |
| nosrednaekim | that looks like alphabetic neo | 03:12 |
| sub[t]rnl | htop ftw | 03:13 |
| Xcell | oi. | 03:13 |
| nyork | neo: with sorted processes you will know which is eating up your resources.... | 03:13 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: click on the vmsize column that should show what is sucking up your ram | 03:13 |
| neo | ok | 03:14 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: dont kill xorg | 03:14 |
| neo | ok | 03:14 |
| neo | xorg is taking up 97 | 03:14 |
| ardchoille | sub[t]rnl: Yes, htop is awesome | 03:14 |
| Xcell | ya htop rocks | 03:14 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: xorg is your graphical interface | 03:14 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: 97 in what column ? | 03:15 |
| neo | I don't know which process I need and which I don't thats why l listed all of them to see if you can see which ones not right. | 03:15 |
| neo | VmSize column | 03:15 |
| neo | konversation is 62 | 03:16 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: go down one at a time starting from the top | 03:16 |
| neo | ok | 03:16 |
| sub[t]rnl | ardchoille you just like it cause your a cli junky | 03:16 |
| * sub[t]rnl ducks | 03:16 |
| Xcell | lol | 03:16 |
| ardchoille | Indeed :) | 03:16 |
| neo | VmSize is in order 0 to 97 | 03:16 |
| path_ | hi there | 03:17 |
| Xcell | hi there 2 | 03:17 |
| path_ | having issues upgrading to gutsy | 03:17 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: I just need the first 5 thats were the probem will exist | 03:17 |
| sub[t]rnl | :p | 03:17 |
| path_ | /var/cache/apt/archives/vim-runtime_1%3a7.1-056+2ubuntu2_all.deb | 03:17 |
| path_ | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz', which is also in package vim-common | 03:17 |
| path_ | :\ | 03:17 |
| Xcell | oi | 03:17 |
| Linux_Galore | problem* | 03:17 |
| neo | you mean the five highest in the VmSize column | 03:17 |
| nyork | neo: yup | 03:17 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: yep, if its sucking up that much ram it will be up the top | 03:18 |
| Linux_Galore | in vmsize | 03:18 |
| Linux_Galore | within the first 5-10 but normall the first 5 | 03:18 |
| Linux_Galore | normally* | 03:19 |
| nyork | path: try sudo rm /usr/share/man/man1/vimtutor.1.gz. then run your upgrade again | 03:19 |
| neo | Then its Xorg-97 konversation-62 kdesktop-53 kinfocenter-47 kicker-38 konqueror-38 artsd-37 kded-35 | 03:19 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: looks normal | 03:19 |
| neo | Is it possible that there might be spyware running | 03:20 |
| Xcell | oi | 03:20 |
| Xcell | nozi | 03:20 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: not on Linux | 03:20 |
| nyork | neo: Linux_Galore is right.. it is not possible in GNU/Linux | 03:20 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: with Linux you have to "intentionally" install spyware | 03:20 |
| path_ | nyork same error | 03:20 |
| neo | Should I list the rest that are in double figures? | 03:21 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: if you want, could be you have too much crud running, it does add up | 03:21 |
| neo | crud? | 03:21 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: applets/monitors etc | 03:21 |
| ardchoille | neo: How much ram do you have?> | 03:22 |
| neo | I migrated to Linux few days back and I don't even know how to properly setup my desktop let alone set 'crud'! | 03:22 |
| neo | 512mb | 03:22 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: on my machine firefox is consuming 207mb and right under that is xorg | 03:22 |
| path_ | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory | 03:23 |
| Linux_Galore | 512mb is cutting it a bit thin these days | 03:23 |
| path_ | WTF ? | 03:23 |
| neo | ok should I increase the ram | 03:23 |
| path_ | I cant install anything :shock: | 03:23 |
| Xcell | deuryte | 03:24 |
| ardchoille | neo: One thing you could do is kill konqueror if you don't use it much. I'm not sure why the devs made d3lphin the default fm and then left 2 konq procs running all the time. | 03:24 |
| Linux_Galore | path_: I had the same bug a while back in feisty | 03:24 |
| neo | how do I kill a process? | 03:24 |
| Xcell | deuryte | 03:24 |
| path_ | Linux_Galore and you fixed it ? | 03:25 |
| deuryte | sup | 03:25 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: right click on the process then click on the [KILL] button down the bottom | 03:25 |
| Xcell | alt+f2+kppp | 03:25 |
| nyork | path: they have this thread in ubuntu forum.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167504&highlight=VIM | 03:25 |
| Linux_Galore | path_: yes, Im trying to remember how, it was a package script bug | 03:25 |
| neo | there is no kill option | 03:25 |
| deuryte | what is that?? | 03:26 |
| nyork | path: i just don't know if that will also work for you.. | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | lol | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | <Zabulus> ok, now, how do i do that? (forgive my ignorance) | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | [22:26] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+backspace.. | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | [22:26] <nosrednaekim> its ok :D | 03:26 |
| nosrednaekim | [22:26] [Error] Zabulus: No such nick/channel. | 03:26 |
| Xcell | bocopy your connection statistics on paper..and boot kubuntu and press alt+f2 and put (kppp) and enter info | 03:26 |
| Linux_Galore | path_: I have the feeling it was ripping kde out and putting it back that fixed it | 03:27 |
| path_ | nyork It worked :D | 03:27 |
| nyork | path,Linux_Galore: hope you did not experience the hal errors during the upgrade ... | 03:27 |
| deuryte | bocopy ?? | 03:27 |
| Xcell | copy | 03:27 |
| Linux_Galore | nyork: lol, no | 03:27 |
| nyork | path: awesome.. | 03:28 |
| path_ | nyork at this point nope | 03:28 |
| path_ | yet having issues with locales | 03:28 |
| Xcell | right click on your Ubuntu network screen thingy and copy stats | 03:28 |
| niteriderII | hi yall | 03:28 |
| deuryte | connection statistics, where are these?? | 03:28 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: did you run ksysguard ie sudo ksysguard | 03:28 |
| ardchoille | Never run a gui app with sudo. use kdesudo | 03:28 |
| nyork | nyork: i have to do a clean install of gutsy rather than an upgrade due to those errors.. that was a few days after the release.. i got my lesson.. upgrade after a month.. | 03:28 |
| ardchoille | !kdesudo | 03:28 |
| niteriderII | i need some help for kubuntu concerning a synaptics touch pad | 03:28 |
| ubotu | In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) | 03:28 |
| Xcell | bottom right..click on the small computer screen | 03:29 |
| neo | yes and I found the kill button, I was looking for it in the context menu(that how I did it in windows) | 03:29 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: I did say "down the bottom" | 03:29 |
| neo | Sorry and thanks, so would you suggest I should get more ram? | 03:30 |
| deuryte | it just showed connection speed and ip address.. no data there for modem configs | 03:30 |
| neo | Ya sorry, my mistake. | 03:30 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: yeah, I added another 512meg on the last update | 03:30 |
| Xcell | system.network settings..go from there | 03:30 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: mainly sue to firefox sucking up my ram | 03:30 |
| Linux_Galore | due* | 03:30 |
| Xcell | sys admin.net settings | 03:30 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: 512m of ram is dirt cheap right now | 03:31 |
| neo | Ya it does that and I am definitely upping my ram | 03:31 |
| path_ | Need to get 583MB/597MB of archives. | 03:31 |
| neo | I have p3 I wonder if it supports 1g ram | 03:31 |
| path_ | thats pretty nice | 03:31 |
| deuryte | 4 | 03:31 |
| Xcell | k | 03:31 |
| Linux_Galore | neo: firefox 3 is fixing the ram problem | 03:31 |
| Linux_Galore | I think firefox 3 is on the repo too | 03:32 |
| neo | that would be nice and I can't wait to use it, I love FF. | 03:32 |
| nyork | path: so you are continuing the upgrade..? | 03:33 |
| path_ | yep doing an dist-upgrade from 6.06 to 7.10 I guess | 03:33 |
| posingaspopular | hey all, any way to transfer an .avi file to an ipodvideo? | 03:33 |
| path_ | gutsy if Im not mistaken nyork ? | 03:33 |
| deuryte | the configs on this setup are no where near the same......... | 03:33 |
| nyork | neo: i think it do support 1gb... | 03:33 |
| Xcell | k | 03:33 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: hmm there is a kde app that does that, hold on let me get the link | 03:33 |
| ubuntu | Hola.. Quien habla español??? | 03:34 |
| posingaspopular | !es | 03:34 |
| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 03:34 |
| neo | Well guys thanks, esp. Linux_Galore. I wish someday I could help others with Linux and be like you guys. You rock. | 03:34 |
| Xcell | boot kubuntu and press alt+f2 and enter kppp...se ya there/ | 03:34 |
| nyork | path: 7.10 is gutsy... | 03:34 |
| neo | Love you, love FF, love linux and love Open Source. | 03:34 |
| deuryte | on ubuntu, all i had to do was get it to look at the modem, set it up with name and #... it took off......... | 03:34 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | Hellloooo everybody | 03:34 |
| Xcell | ^ | 03:34 |
| deuryte | 4 | 03:34 |
| deuryte | brb in 10 if fail | 03:35 |
| Xcell | k | 03:35 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Hyper+Video+Converter?content=67781 | 03:35 |
| posingaspopular | thank Linux_Galore. i know it's possible, but i dont know the exact infomation | 03:35 |
| ubuntu | Gracias ubotu | 03:35 |
| Xcell | ubotu smart | 03:35 |
| ubotu | smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager | 03:35 |
| Xcell | oi | 03:35 |
| * Linux_Galore is collecting karma +1 bits for xmas | 03:36 |
| Xcell | lol | 03:36 |
| posingaspopular | thanks | 03:37 |
| Linux_Galore | I tried smart, total crap | 03:37 |
| Xcell | It wasent ment 2 be..lol | 03:37 |
| * Linux_Galore mv smart stupid | 03:37 |
| Xcell | hiccup! | 03:38 |
| larrywells | how do you mount cdrom | 03:39 |
| nosrednaekim | larrywells: "sudo mount /dev/cdrom /mnt" | 03:40 |
| awag | anyone here have experience with sudden system freezes in gutsy? | 03:40 |
| Xcell | beat it to death....j/k | 03:40 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: this is even better and its ipod specific http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Avi+2+iPod+%2B+PSP+%28mp4%29?content=5691 | 03:41 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: this I have used it works pretty well and even loads the file onto the ipod afterwards http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/thin+liquid+film?content=51678 | 03:43 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | alright this is weird | 03:43 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | i just reinstalled Kubuntu , completly | 03:44 |
| Xcell | nice | 03:44 |
| Xcell | now fix it. | 03:44 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | i installed Kubuntu restricted stuff | 03:44 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | flash still dont work ... wtf | 03:44 |
| Xcell | and | 03:44 |
| Xcell | open the ff browser and go to a known flash site and it will prompt you | 03:45 |
| Linux_Galore | n1ghtm4r3: be careful there are two versions of flash on the repo make sure you install the adobe one | 03:45 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | xcell: i dont have firefox | 03:45 |
| Xcell | install it..it will work universally..do it from add remove/internet | 03:46 |
| Linux_Galore | n1ghtm4r3: ie install flash-plugin-nonfree | 03:46 |
| Dr_willis | is that bug/md5 issue with flash still going on? | 03:46 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | it keeps saying me that another process is using the database ... WTF | 03:47 |
| Linux_Galore | well I dont have any flash issues | 03:47 |
| Linux_Galore | n1ghtm4r3: do you have an other adept sessions open ? | 03:48 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | Linux_galore: not realy | 03:48 |
| Linux_Galore | another* | 03:48 |
| Linux_Galore | n1ghtm4r3: it wont allows two sessions | 03:48 |
| Xcell | n1ghtm4r3: ..do a (sudo apt get update..when error appears do this.. | 03:49 |
| Xcell | !aptfix | 03:49 |
| ubotu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 03:49 |
| posingaspopular | Linux_Galore: i have this msg: You are not using "bash" as your default shell. This is most likely because you are using Ubuntu which links the default shell to the "dash" shell. See http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=59 on how to fix this. thinliquidfilm won't work properly unless you fix this. | 03:49 |
| posingaspopular | any idae? | 03:49 |
| posingaspopular | will it matter? | 03:49 |
| rob_ | all aptitude related programs will not acess the internet, how do I fix this? | 03:50 |
| Xcell | !aptfix | 03:50 |
| ubotu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 03:50 |
| rob_ | that's not the problem | 03:50 |
| Xcell | oh | 03:50 |
| Dr_willis | how to fix it? heh tghe fix is for them to do their shell scripts right. :) | 03:50 |
| hydrogen | posingaspopular: see the link in the message you pasted? | 03:50 |
| rob_ | the aptitude programs function correctly | 03:50 |
| rob_ | just they won't acess the internet | 03:50 |
| rob_ | I can reinstall programs who's packages have already been downloaded | 03:51 |
| hydrogen | although their justificationis are a bit not at all right | 03:51 |
| rob_ | I can uninstall programs | 03:51 |
| Dr_willis | that 'fix' for fixing dash/bash is totally wrong in its 'reasons' | 03:51 |
| hydrogen | yes | 03:51 |
| rob_ | but apdept manager, apt-get, adept updater, aptitude, etc will not access the internet | 03:52 |
| rob_ | can anyone help me? | 03:52 |
| Dr_willis | and its wrong in how to propely set /bin/sh to be bash. :0 | 03:52 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: it is a fix for those just starting..and will allow them to continue. | 03:52 |
| hydrogen | no | 03:52 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, yes. but theres the proper way to fix it.. then there his changes | 03:52 |
| hydrogen | it is a broken | 03:52 |
| Dr_willis | !dash | 03:52 |
| ubotu | /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash | 03:52 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: post the fix then. | 03:52 |
| Dr_willis | Heh that factoid has a typo also. | 03:52 |
| hydrogen | /bin/sh is required to be a posix shell | 03:53 |
| Dr_willis | if the script uses BASH then it shoudl call bash with #!/bin/bash NOT #!/bin/sh | 03:53 |
| hydrogen | not a bash shell | 03:53 |
| rob_ | #room | 03:53 |
| rob_ | ok so can anyone help me? | 03:53 |
| Dr_willis | the scripts are using 'bash' features - which do not exist in sh. | 03:53 |
| rob_ | this is a serious problem... I was thinking of reinstalling linux but then I'd have to start from scratch and I'd rather not do that | 03:53 |
| Xcell | Nicely done | 03:54 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: | 03:54 |
| rob_ | !adept | 03:54 |
| ubotu | adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto | 03:54 |
| Dr_willis | the proper way to change dash to bash is ----> sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash | 03:54 |
| Xcell | But: beginners cant get that far and are not afforded that info on a daily basis. | 03:54 |
| hydrogen | Xcell: so the scripts need to behave properly | 03:55 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, totally wrong.. that sites fix had them doing all sorts of things... | 03:55 |
| Dr_willis | sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash --> asks a Simple YES/NO | 03:55 |
| rob_ | HELP | 03:55 |
| hydrogen | rob_: be patient | 03:55 |
| Dr_willis | the true fix is for the scripts to quit relying on the bash 'bug' of allowing bash features when called as sh. | 03:55 |
| rob_ | ok ok hydrogen I'll hold on | 03:55 |
| Xcell | k | 03:55 |
| Dr_willis | rob, does 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' work? | 03:55 |
| Xcell | But like I said: Beginners who come here dont get that info readily. | 03:56 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: I found it didnt ,atter | 03:56 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: matter* | 03:56 |
| Xcell | I never seen it till U just posted it Dr_willis | 03:56 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash = - is much more clear then their fix.. and the script writers need to be told of the bug in their script. | 03:56 |
| hydrogen | Xcell: they do if the friendly people who answer questions answer it | 03:56 |
| hydrogen | !dash shows it properly | 03:57 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, when they first did the dash change. there was a lot of scriopts that got broke. | 03:57 |
| Xcell | hydrogen: That is a rarity. | 03:57 |
| Dr_willis | most of them that i know are now fixed. | 03:57 |
| Linux_Galore | posingaspopular: easy to change the default back to bash though sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash | 03:57 |
| Dr_willis | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh explains the reasons and issues. | 03:57 |
| Xcell | Thanks Dr_willis. | 03:58 |
| Xcell | That should be the fix that ubotu should show. | 03:58 |
| === neville is now known as neville__ |
| Dr_willis | The fix at the liquid weather site.. leads me to belive the guy dident research the dash program/problem very much. :) | 03:59 |
| Dr_willis | yea theres a typo in the bots factoid it seems | 03:59 |
| Dr_willis | !dash | 03:59 |
| ubotu | /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in all releases since Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to « #! /bin/bash | 03:59 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: U have experience..beginners do not..have a little mercy. | 03:59 |
| posingaspopular | ah i see.. thanks guys | 03:59 |
| Dr_willis | Thats the 'core' of the bugs with lots of scripts.. but theres other things to watch for. | 03:59 |
| posingaspopular | it doesn't matter atm because ubutnu decided to not see or mount my ipod again. whatever i'll deal with this some other time | 04:00 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, i dident make the incorrect howto at that site. Im jut explaining how its wrong. | 04:00 |
| Xcell | k | 04:00 |
| Xcell | My apologizies | 04:00 |
| Dr_willis | i was about to post to their forum to give them the proper info.. but i aint going to register for that. :) | 04:00 |
| Xcell | Dont blame ya | 04:00 |
| Zombocom | ok this is rob_ | 04:01 |
| Zombocom | someone just kicked me off of that nickname | 04:01 |
| hanzou | Hi, I am trying to use doxygen w/ default options. | 04:01 |
| hanzou | It generates colored code html... | 04:01 |
| gabriel__ | Hi from Mexico | 04:01 |
| Xcell | Zomb: bill gates is atching you. | 04:01 |
| hanzou | but no function lists or classlists. How do I get it to do the cool stuff? | 04:01 |
| Xcell | watching | 04:02 |
| Zombocom | this nick is registered to me | 04:02 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | wow i think my conection is angry at me lol | 04:02 |
| Zombocom | so Bill Gates can't to crap to me | 04:02 |
| Zombocom | exuse my french | 04:02 |
| Xcell | lol | 04:02 |
| Xcell | j/k Zomb. | 04:02 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | Tu parle français Zombocom? | 04:03 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: Could I enter that info and continue as is right now? | 04:03 |
| Linux_Galore | I have an old machine running winxp, mainly so I can connect some of my weird portable devices | 04:03 |
| Linux_Galore | my desktop is Linyx | 04:03 |
| Zombocom | damint I'm having more and more odd problems | 04:03 |
| Linux_Galore | Linux* | 04:03 |
| Xcell | Zombocom: U on 64 bit? | 04:04 |
| Dr_willis | Xcell, i got it straight from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh , its the 'proper' way to set /bin/sh to be bash or dash on a ubuntu system. :) | 04:04 |
| Zombocom | yes Xcell as a matter of fact I am | 04:04 |
| Xcell | k Dr_willis thanks man. | 04:04 |
| Linux_Galore | I must admit though I rarely use the winXP machine for connecting stuff anymore | 04:05 |
| SuprUsr | Does anyone know of command that would display the file size of an entire directory? | 04:05 |
| Dr_willis | and i Have edited some of those wiki pages. :) not many but some. | 04:05 |
| Xcell | Good job. | 04:05 |
| Linux_Galore | there is a weird way of transfering video file to your ipod, use Amarok, Im not kidding it works | 04:06 |
| Xcell | Zombocom: I used the 32 bit kubuntu to avoid problems when learning linux..that was a personal decision. | 04:06 |
| Zombocom | I'm not really learning | 04:06 |
| Zombocom | normally I can maintain a system pretty well | 04:06 |
| Linux_Galore | only down side is it doesnt name the file properly on the ipod | 04:06 |
| Zombocom | it's when stuff like this happens | 04:06 |
| Zombocom | I'm going to uninstall something that I think could be at fault here | 04:07 |
| Linux_Galore | but you can see the video file on the ipod and play it | 04:07 |
| Xcell | Do the 32 bit thing..you will be much happier. | 04:07 |
| NickPresta | SuprUsr, du -c --si -max-depth=0 DIR `man du` for more information | 04:07 |
| Zombocom | this wouldn't be that big an annoyance had I not just uninstalled kdm | 04:07 |
| Dr_willis | SuprUsr, 'du -hs' is what i often use in a dir | 04:07 |
| Zombocom | by a freak accident | 04:07 |
| Zombocom | !aptfix | 04:08 |
| ubotu | If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » | 04:08 |
| Linux_Galore | I find sudo dpkg --configure -a on its own works most of the time | 04:09 |
| NickPresta | SuprUsr, listen to Dr_willis. I forgot about "summarize" :) | 04:09 |
| deuryte | xcell | 04:09 |
| Xcell | ya | 04:10 |
| Dr_willis | heh heh.. | 04:10 |
| SuprUsr | Dr_willis: Thanks. | 04:10 |
| Dr_willis | My Bash Prompt shows me the amount of Files in the current dir. :) | 04:10 |
| SuprUsr | Anyway to concactenate the "music | 04:10 |
| SuprUsr | ? | 04:10 |
| Dr_willis | willis@MythBox:~(2650.329 Mb)$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash | 04:10 |
| deuryte | no go, keeps hangin in the initialize state. then drops out after 1.5 min | 04:10 |
| Dr_willis | see i got 2650 mb in that dir. :) | 04:10 |
| SuprUsr | I just want a number and k/m/GB | 04:11 |
| Xcell | k bring tomorrow afternoon and will fix. | 04:11 |
| Dr_willis | du -hs ---> du -hs | 04:12 |
| Dr_willis | 194G . | 04:12 |
| Dr_willis | wow i got a lot of G's | 04:12 |
| deuryte | there seems to be no modem commands in the modem command screen..... | 04:12 |
| SuprUsr | Dr_willis: It prints out "24G<tab>music" | 04:12 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: Please walk deuryte so he can use dialup on kubuntu..thanks. | 04:13 |
| SuprUsr | Can I use grep to trim out the "<tab>music"? | 04:13 |
| deuryte | i also looked for the kppp wizard. it didnt have one | 04:13 |
| deuryte | the kppp handbook said it did. didnt see it | 04:14 |
| Zombocom | crap | 04:15 |
| Xcell | Deuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it. | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | !linux | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux | 04:16 |
| Dr_willis | i aint used a modem in years... | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | !gnu/linux | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gnu/linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 04:16 |
| Dr_willis | :) | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | someone needs to fix that | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | !gnu\linux | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about gnu\linux - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | uh oh | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | !gnu | 04:16 |
| ubotu | G(NU's) N(ot) U(nix). A project that aimed to develop a complete operating system of Free Software, which Ubuntu is based on. See http://gnu.org | 04:16 |
| deuryte | 4 | 04:16 |
| SuprUsr | !botabuse | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. | 04:16 |
| Zombocom | ok ok | 04:16 |
| Xcell | !kppp | 04:16 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about kppp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi | 04:16 |
| Xcell | !dialup | 04:17 |
| ubotu | You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up | 04:17 |
| Zombocom | aptitude will not acess the internet still | 04:17 |
| Zombocom | I uninstalled a program called anon-proxy in the hopes that it was the culprit | 04:17 |
| deuryte | KNetworkManager?? where is that?? | 04:17 |
| Xcell | !KNetworkManager | 04:18 |
| ubotu | You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto - Also try disabling/removing KNetworkManager if KDE applications cannot connect using dial-up | 04:18 |
| Dr_willis | just installing a proxy wouldent set everything to be using that proxy | 04:18 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, but other apps work? | 04:18 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis: I'm connected to irc through the same operating system, so I assume so | 04:18 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, how about the web browser? | 04:19 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis also pidgin and Konqueror work | 04:19 |
| Dr_willis | Hmm.. | 04:19 |
| Dr_willis | so if you do a 'sudo apt-get install mc' what happens? | 04:19 |
| Xcell | Deuryte: it appears the show offs cant help..bring it here tomorrow Ill fix it. | 04:20 |
| hanzou | How do I get doxygen to list functions & classes & variables? By default it seems to only color-code source files. | 04:20 |
| Zombocom | E: Couldn't find package mc | 04:20 |
| Zombocom | that's what I get | 04:20 |
| deuryte | 26 | 04:20 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, ok. and try a 'sudo apt-get update' | 04:21 |
| Zombocom | this is the full output Dr_willis: | 04:21 |
| Zombocom | Reading package lists... Done | 04:21 |
| Zombocom | Building dependency tree | 04:21 |
| Zombocom | Reading state information... Done | 04:21 |
| Zombocom | E: Couldn't find package mc | 04:21 |
| hydrogen | !pastebin | 04:21 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic) | 04:21 |
| deuryte | w2ktu...... | 04:21 |
| Dr_willis | That was it? it dident spit out a lot of messages? | 04:22 |
| Xcell | not | 04:22 |
| Zombocom | it spit out a lot of messages | 04:22 |
| Zombocom | two lines of which is | 04:22 |
| Zombocom | Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy Release.gpg | 04:22 |
| Zombocom | Could not connect to localhost:4001 (127.0.0.1). - connect (111 Connection refused) | 04:22 |
| Dr_willis | AHA! thats a clue! | 04:22 |
| Dr_willis | it is trying to connect to localhost, thus does seem set to be using some sort of proxy | 04:22 |
| deuryte | w3.1tu.... | 04:22 |
| Xcell | Dr_willis: Take a hike. | 04:22 |
| Zombocom | ok ok I'll restart linux | 04:23 |
| Zombocom | I just got rid of a program called anon-proxy | 04:23 |
| Zombocom | what else should I be looking for? | 04:23 |
| Zombocom | a firewall program? | 04:23 |
| SuprUsr | Does anyone have an idea on how to trim the directory label the output of du -hs? | 04:24 |
| sakthian | hi | 04:24 |
| deuryte | z---zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz whoa?? ok, ok im awake......... | 04:24 |
| SuprUsr | Currently, it prints "<filesize><tab><directorylabel>", want only "<filesize>" | 04:24 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, im curious as to if some how your apt settings got set to use a proxy. | 04:25 |
| sakthian | how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system | 04:25 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis: I installed anon-proxy and another program called smproxy | 04:25 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, check the /etc/apt/sources.list file , see if they have some entrys that mention 4001 and so forth.. | 04:25 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, yea. but i dont think just installing a proxy server would edit the system settings like that. | 04:26 |
| Zombocom | oh shit... | 04:26 |
| Zombocom | I'm introuble | 04:26 |
| Xcell | lool keep lisrening to Dr_willis..lol | 04:27 |
| Zombocom | almost everything is gone | 04:27 |
| Zombocom | in the systems part of the kicker | 04:27 |
| === neville is now known as neville__ |
| Zombocom | oh god | 04:27 |
| Xcell | enjoy. | 04:28 |
| Zombocom | Xcell... | 04:28 |
| Zombocom | what happened | 04:28 |
| Xcell | ya | 04:28 |
| Zombocom | adept_manager is gone | 04:28 |
| Zombocom | adept_updater is gone | 04:28 |
| maduser | ............... | 04:28 |
| maduser | wow um... | 04:29 |
| Zombocom | this program shouldn't even exist | 04:29 |
| maduser | yeah... | 04:29 |
| Xcell | sudo apt-get touch /forcefsck and re boot to make files repaired. | 04:29 |
| Xcell | Thats all I know. | 04:29 |
| Zombocom | invalid operation touch | 04:29 |
| Xcell | oi | 04:30 |
| Dr_willis | That sounds bad Zombocom - You dont have anything super imporntant on the system do ya? | 04:30 |
| Dr_willis | If so i'd be backing up stuff right now. | 04:30 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis not really... | 04:30 |
| Zombocom | starcraft is on this drive though... | 04:30 |
| Zombocom | I kinda like starcraft | 04:30 |
| Xcell | push the reset buton..hurry | 04:30 |
| Dr_willis | 'sudo toucn /forcefsck' i think is the right command. | 04:30 |
| Xcell | lol | 04:30 |
| Dr_willis | 'sudo touch /forcefsck' i think is the right command. | 04:30 |
| Zombocom | no returns | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | geesus | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | jeesus | 04:31 |
| Dr_willis | that makes a file on the / that will make the system check the filesystem on next boot.. if no error came out.. thats good. | 04:31 |
| Xcell | just reboot and enter it and reboot..no worries | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | lol | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | ok this is bad | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | do I shut down normally? | 04:31 |
| Dr_willis | not as bad as it first sounded.. | 04:31 |
| Dr_willis | :) | 04:31 |
| Xcell | Re boot dont be silly | 04:31 |
| Zombocom | ok have linux shutdown or do I just do an unclean reboot | 04:32 |
| Xcell | your sys is adjar...reboot | 04:32 |
| Dr_willis | just have it reboot | 04:32 |
| Zombocom | lol | 04:32 |
| sakthian | how to install xmms-1.2.11.tar.gz in my system | 04:32 |
| SuprUsr | !source | 04:32 |
| ubotu | You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html | 04:32 |
| SuprUsr | Oh, wait. | 04:32 |
| Dr_willis | sakthian, why are you installing xmms from source in the first place? | 04:32 |
| Dr_willis | !info xmms | 04:33 |
| ubotu | xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.10+20070601-1 (gutsy), package size 2101 kB, installed size 6292 kB | 04:33 |
| SuprUsr | Old version? | 04:33 |
| Zombocom | ok 1 or 2... 1 as in hold down shutdown untill system powers off by force or 2 enter sudo shutdown -r now in the terminal | 04:33 |
| Dr_willis | xmms is not that old. :) | 04:33 |
| SuprUsr | Well, I dunno? | 04:33 |
| SuprUsr | Anyway. | 04:33 |
| Dr_willis | xmms IS old.. i mean.. and its proberly best to start using some other tools.. :) but the version in the repo is not that old from the one he has. | 04:33 |
| SuprUsr | Dr_willis: How do you trim out the directory name when you run "du -hs" | 04:33 |
| Xcell | sudo shutdown -r now | 04:33 |
| Zombocom | kk | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | SuprUsr, what dir name? | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | du -hs | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | 80K . | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | you mean the . ? | 04:34 |
| SuprUsr | 24G . | 04:34 |
| SuprUsr | Yes. | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | guess ya could use awk for that. | 04:34 |
| SuprUsr | The dot. | 04:34 |
| Xcell | waits. | 04:34 |
| Dr_willis | check the du options - it may have it also. | 04:34 |
| SuprUsr | Dr_willis: I did. Nothing seems to be in there. :/ | 04:35 |
| Dr_willis | du -s | 04:35 |
| Dr_willis | 203012472 | 04:35 |
| Dr_willis | oh wait it had the . also. :) heh | 04:35 |
| SuprUsr | Or else I'm not looking hard enough... I've stared at the manpage for du for a few minutes. | 04:35 |
| SuprUsr | I thought grep might be able to do it, but I guess not. :/ | 04:36 |
| Dr_willis | grep prints out lines matching a pattern. | 04:36 |
| SuprUsr | Yeah. | 04:36 |
| Dr_willis | awk/sed edit input out. | 04:36 |
| Xcell | Zombocom hasnt returned..oi. | 04:37 |
| Dr_willis | du -s | awk '{print $1}' | 04:37 |
| Dr_willis | 203012472 | 04:37 |
| Dr_willis | :P | 04:38 |
| SuprUsr | Dr_willis: Awesome. | 04:38 |
| SuprUsr | Thanks. :) | 04:38 |
| sakthian | how to install .tar.gz | 04:38 |
| Dr_willis | awk is worth learning a bit of.. | 04:38 |
| Dr_willis | sakthian, uncompress it.. read its docs.. installthe needed libs/C compiler. do the './configure make, and make install' procedure | 04:38 |
| maduser | whats that other program similar to awk is it called sed? | 04:39 |
| Dr_willis | sed and awk sort of are like... salt and pepper. :) | 04:39 |
| Dr_willis | both work well together. :) | 04:39 |
| maduser | sed is easier to use | 04:39 |
| Dr_willis | but ya often perfer one to the other. | 04:39 |
| maduser | true | 04:40 |
| Dr_willis | Yep. sed is good for a lot of the similer needs. | 04:40 |
| maduser | but can't awk do more? | 04:40 |
| Dr_willis | perl can also do a lot of things. | 04:40 |
| Dr_willis | awk is... sort of amazing in what it can do. | 04:40 |
| maduser | more amazing then sed? | 04:40 |
| Dr_willis | I have the using sed/awk book. | 04:40 |
| maduser | ah | 04:40 |
| Dr_willis | Yes. awk is much more amazing/flexiable/powerfull then sed | 04:40 |
| maduser | I learned how to sort of use it off of the acm | 04:40 |
| maduser | online courses | 04:41 |
| Linux_Galore | awk supports more complex commands better than sed I find | 04:41 |
| Dr_willis | i belive ive seen games written in awk. :) | 04:41 |
| Dr_willis | written by SICK people! :) | 04:41 |
| maduser | there are lots of things created by sick people | 04:41 |
| maduser | in many senses | 04:42 |
| Linux_Galore | same people who write lisp games heh | 04:42 |
| Dr_willis | http://doc.novsu.ac.ru/oreilly/unix/sedawk/index.htm | 04:42 |
| Dr_willis | not sure how legal that url is.. :) | 04:42 |
| maduser | the same people who made........ | 04:42 |
| maduser | ufdsfasdffhdhhsdffhdtht | 04:43 |
| maduser | dam | 04:43 |
| maduser | i just slamed my keyboard | 04:43 |
| maduser | woops | 04:43 |
| awag | anyone have problems with compiz fusion causing a total system freeze on a regular basis? | 04:43 |
| maduser | no | 04:43 |
| awag | :) | 04:43 |
| awag | mine was working fine for about a month | 04:43 |
| awag | and then last week it started freezing randomly | 04:43 |
| maduser | then what? | 04:43 |
| Linux_Galore | yes | 04:44 |
| maduser | ah | 04:44 |
| awag | i havn't changed anything to my knowledge | 04:44 |
| maduser | I still have time left for that | 04:44 |
| awag | another thing that is interesting, at around the time my system started freezing randomly, firefox also stopped saving my previous sessions | 04:45 |
| awag | even though i have it set to restore session on start | 04:45 |
| maduser | hmmm | 04:46 |
| Xcell | interesting | 04:46 |
| awag | yes | 04:46 |
| awag | hehe | 04:46 |
| awag | it sucks | 04:46 |
| Xcell | restart xorg? | 04:46 |
| maduser | lots of things suck | 04:47 |
| Xcell | re config xorg? | 04:47 |
| awag | well, everything seems to be working fine just using kwin though | 04:47 |
| maduser | dunno | 04:47 |
| awag | and compiz seems to work perfect as well, just after about 30 min of using it | 04:48 |
| awag | it freezes | 04:48 |
| awag | maybe vid card overheating? | 04:48 |
| Xcell | ya | 04:48 |
| awag | it is odd, if i boot up with compiz | 04:48 |
| Xcell | prolly | 04:48 |
| awag | and then go away, and don't use my computer | 04:48 |
| awag | it is fine | 04:48 |
| maduser | how old is your computer? | 04:48 |
| awag | but then if i start using it | 04:48 |
| awag | and spinning my cube and shit | 04:48 |
| awag | it will die without fail | 04:48 |
| awag | in about 30 - 1 h | 04:48 |
| Dr_willis | spinning your cube can cause blindness... | 04:49 |
| Dr_willis | :) | 04:49 |
| awag | hahaa | 04:49 |
| Xcell | lol card is tired. | 04:49 |
| Dr_willis | dare i suggest just disabling compiz ? | 04:49 |
| Dr_willis | :P | 04:49 |
| maduser | you could | 04:49 |
| awag | well, see, the thing is, when i'm doing homework and stuff, i sometimes like to be able to wobble my windows, and distract myself | 04:49 |
| maduser | ah | 04:50 |
| Xcell | lol | 04:50 |
| Dr_willis | window wabbling can cause blindness... | 04:50 |
| Zombocom | dear god it fixed nothing | 04:50 |
| Zombocom | I'm reinstalling kubuntu | 04:50 |
| Dr_willis | :) My wife made me turn off Wobbly windows for her. | 04:50 |
| awag | haha | 04:50 |
| awag | my gf thinks it's cool | 04:50 |
| Zombocom | and never taking advice from Dr_willis | 04:50 |
| awag | and wishes windows could do it | 04:50 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, or check your /etc/apt/sources.list and apt config file. | 04:50 |
| maduser | there are much worse things in thois world then reinstalling kubuntu | 04:50 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, whatever ya want.. have fun. | 04:50 |
| awag | lol | 04:50 |
| Xcell | sudo touch /forcefsck see if U can now. | 04:50 |
| Zombocom | Xcell I did that | 04:51 |
| Dr_willis | Guess i will stop researching the problem. | 04:51 |
| Dr_willis | Are the menus and things still messed up? | 04:51 |
| Xcell | sudo apt-get clean ? | 04:51 |
| awag | man, i bought this video card just so i could use compiz-fusion too | 04:52 |
| Xcell | how old | 04:52 |
| awag | is there an app i can use to see the temp of an nvidia card in kubuntu? | 04:52 |
| Zombocom | look it up on adept_manager | 04:52 |
| awag | agp geforce 6600 256 mb | 04:52 |
| Zombocom | something I cannot do anymore | 04:52 |
| Xcell | awag htop | 04:53 |
| awag | Xcell, k thanks | 04:53 |
| maduser | well Zombocom your screwed | 04:54 |
| Zombocom | thanks maduser | 04:54 |
| Xcell | lol i smell re- install/ | 04:54 |
| Zombocom | exactly Xcell | 04:54 |
| Zombocom | lol | 04:54 |
| Xcell | this time use 32 bit | 04:54 |
| ciacon | hi all... I was wondering, if the standard kubuntu install is applyed to a core2duo... | 04:55 |
| kdehelp | hello | 04:55 |
| kdehelp | y can't I install Kde on my computer | 04:56 |
| Xcell | ? | 04:56 |
| Zombocom | KDE 4? | 04:56 |
| kdehelp | I try to use synaptic | 04:56 |
| Dr_willis | kdehelp, just use 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' | 04:56 |
| kdehelp | cant find kde in search | 04:56 |
| kdehelp | ill try | 04:56 |
| Dr_willis | install 'kubuntu-desktop' not 'kde' | 04:56 |
| Xcell | ya | 04:57 |
| awag | oh, stupid me, nvidia-settings shows temp | 04:57 |
| Xcell | oi | 04:57 |
| Xcell | lol | 04:57 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, you may want to check your /etc/apt.conf to see if it has any proxy settings, and your /etc/apt/sources.list | 04:57 |
| awag | hmm, only 42 degrees | 04:58 |
| path_ | what mirror is fast ? | 04:58 |
| Xcell | I quit useing graphic cards..on board video for me..less expense and headaches/ | 04:58 |
| awag | lets see what happens when i reenable compiz | 04:58 |
| path_ | ubuntu.com seems pretty slow | 04:58 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis I don't have many of the core applications that come with kubuntu anymore | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | I uninstalled a proxifying program that somehow treed up to core aplications | 04:59 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, thats... odd... | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | and uninstalled them | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | yes it is | 04:59 |
| Xcell | dony use ubuntu..use a another ubuntu uses 50k max only. | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | Konqueror | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | is gone | 04:59 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, how did you uninstall them? | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | Kopete is gone | 04:59 |
| Xcell | hahhah | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | I uninstalled something calles smproxy or something | 04:59 |
| Xcell | 2 funny | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | smanon | 04:59 |
| Zombocom | os some thing like that | 04:59 |
| Dr_willis | HOW did you uninstallit? with adept? or from the command line? | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | sm something | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | adept manager | 05:00 |
| awag | nice, already up 3 degrees | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | then all of a sudden adept_manager dissapeared | 05:00 |
| Dr_willis | so adept some how removed itself. :) | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | I look and adept manager is gone | 05:00 |
| SuprUsr | Someone name a decent manufacturer of portable media players? (Besides Apple.) | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | adept is still there | 05:00 |
| Dr_willis | try 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' perhaps.. | 05:00 |
| Xcell | zom...download 32 bit...works well on 64 bit comp...no worries. | 05:00 |
| Dr_willis | if apt now works.. | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | Xcell it's the principle of it all | 05:00 |
| Zombocom | Dr_willis I still have the problem where adept doesn't acess the internet | 05:01 |
| Xcell | I know but still....why punnish yourself. | 05:01 |
| Dr_willis | Zombocom, well now the question.. do you want to try to fix it..or just reinstall the os... | 05:01 |
| maduser | i would sugest reinstall | 05:01 |
| Zombocom | reinstall sounds like it would take far less time | 05:01 |
| kdehelp | looks like it worked,,,thx | 05:01 |
| kdehelp | Im going to relg in and seell | 05:02 |
| Xcell | good job kde bravo. | 05:02 |
| Zombocom | Xcell I on the other hand have failed | 05:02 |
| awag | hmm, temp is still only 46 C after spinning the cube for a minute or so, that should be a fine temp for it to run at i think.. | 05:02 |
| Xcell | nah z ur just fine | 05:03 |
| Xcell | sudo apt-get remove./bill gates. | 05:03 |
| Zombocom | sudo apt-get remove ./steve jobs | 05:03 |
| Xcell | lol | 05:03 |
| Dr_willis | i wouldent think the 6600 video card would have much of a heat issue.. Unless you are in bad need of a cooling fan or 2. | 05:03 |
| Xcell | z do the 32 bit and be (happy) done with it.........already. | 05:04 |
| Dr_willis | i would also say - stick with the 32bit disrtos unless you know you have a need for 64bit stuff. | 05:05 |
| awag | Dr_willis, yeah i can't believe heat would be the problem, i have quite a few fans, and the temps seem to be fine, and i opened the case and put a room fan next to it just in case | 05:05 |
| Zombocom | NO Xcell I DEMAND THE PAIN | 05:06 |
| Xcell | lolo un necessary | 05:06 |
| Xcell | awag | 05:06 |
| Xcell | z pinch me..hurry........no waiting. | 05:06 |
| * Zombocom pinches Xcell | 05:07 |
| Xcell | feels 32 bit ticklness. | 05:07 |
| Dr_willis | awag, could of been some update to compiz that is causing issues/memory leaks leading to crashing.. with compiz its hard to tell. | 05:07 |
| Xcell | good point...mem leak | 05:08 |
| Dr_willis | and your cube spinning maybe making it leak faster - due to centripital force. :) | 05:08 |
| Xcell | plug it with more room fans....lol. | 05:08 |
| Xcell | maybe a mem test?..all I know. | 05:09 |
| Xcell | z...stop talking so fast..k? | 05:10 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | back .. conection went nut | 05:11 |
| n1ghtm4r3 | had to reconfigure everything lol | 05:11 |
| Xcell | bravo. | 05:11 |
| awag | hmmm | 05:12 |
| awag | this time it died a slow death | 05:12 |
| awag | where i was able to actually move the mouse while it was dying | 05:13 |
| awag | and i could back out to a terminal and run top | 05:13 |
| awag | and compiz was taking like 70% cpu | 05:13 |
| Xcell | it would on startup | 05:14 |
| Xcell | but d htop..u can quit sessions at will. | 05:14 |
| Xcell | do | 05:14 |
| omarete | hola | 05:20 |
| Xcell | butter | 05:20 |
| awag | hi | 05:20 |
| Xcell | !es | 05:20 |
| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 05:20 |
| omarete | hi?? | 05:20 |
| omarete | hola | 05:20 |
| awag | hola | 05:21 |
| omarete | necesito algo d ayuda jeje | 05:21 |
| awag | !es | 05:21 |
| ubotu | Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 05:21 |
| omarete | mmmmmmmm olvide como se hacia para mover como un cubo el escritorio d kde | 05:21 |
| awag | lol | 05:21 |
| Xcell | omarete: we dont speak and dont understand..K? | 05:22 |
| Dr_willis | !es | omarete | 05:23 |
| ubotu | omarete: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. | 05:23 |
| Xcell | k? | 05:24 |
| Xcell | Boaring for a sat nite. | 05:27 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Beam me up Scotty! | 05:28 |
| Xcell | no waiting. | 05:28 |
| mactalla | Hey there. Could anyone tell me how to get the FLAC encoder for K3B? (Kubuntu 7.10) | 05:28 |
| * awag is updating random packages in hopes that they will fix his compiz problems | 05:28 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | mactalla do a barrel roll | 05:29 |
| Xcell | lol awag...wrong answer. | 05:29 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | no lol im kidding | 05:29 |
| awag | :) | 05:29 |
| mactalla | n1ghtm4r3_: if that would work, I'd do it :) | 05:29 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | mactala: hehehe ^ | 05:30 |
| Xcell | google it.' | 05:30 |
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| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: so flash still seems not to be working | 05:33 |
| mactalla | Mmm... looks like it's missing from my KDE install entirely (no FLAC in audiocd:/, either). Can't figure out what package I've missed, though. | 05:33 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: any idea? | 05:33 |
| Xcell | mactalla: http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?showtopic=34468 | 05:33 |
| Xcell | n1ghtm4r3 32 bit? | 05:34 |
| Xcell | Talk to me | 05:34 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: yep | 05:34 |
| Xcell | have fire fox? | 05:34 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: yep | 05:35 |
| Xcell | !flash | 05:35 |
| ubotu | To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash | 05:35 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: already did all that | 05:35 |
| Xcell | what happens | 05:35 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: in fact its installed on FF , on Konq when i try to load a flash it gives me a blank grey square | 05:36 |
| mactalla | Xcell: thanks. I'm looking through that now to see if there's anything beyond "install flac" I did find a bug on launchpad that looks like my problem... but no response to it. | 05:36 |
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| === n1ghtm4r3 is now known as N1ghtm4r3 |
| === Aresilek is now known as Aresilek|Away |
| Xcell | N1ghtm4r3: go to crooksandliars.com and report back..i Use that site as a test due to that it uses all codec. | 05:38 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: whenever i close or refresh a page with a flash on it i get an error message , googled it and i got this http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=90570 | 05:44 |
| deuryte | xcell sleeping?? | 05:46 |
| Xcell | stand by. | 05:46 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | ? | 05:50 |
| Xcell | n1ghtm4r3 U sure U R useig fire fox? | 05:51 |
| deuryte | no. ice box | 05:52 |
| mactalla | Found it, the 'flac' package (not libflac) was needed, then it showed up under 'external codec' instead of being named. | 05:52 |
| Xcell | I see no bugs for ff only konq | 05:52 |
| Xcell | nice mactalla. | 05:52 |
| === Aresilek|Away is now known as Aresilek |
| Xcell | hey due. | 05:54 |
| Xcell | mountaindue. | 05:54 |
| path_ | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle. | 05:54 |
| path_ | whats that? :/ | 05:54 |
| path_ | I know its an error eheh | 05:54 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | xcell: no i said it works on firefox but not on konq | 05:55 |
| Xcell | ah then u must go to konq and look through plugins and see if it sees ff plugins as a ref | 05:56 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | Xcell: we did that yesterday , i believe it does | 05:56 |
| Xcell | its a switch some where..just go through all the settings and see if u missed something..thats all i can do for right now.. | 05:58 |
| deuryte | xcell, any thoughts on my delemma?? | 05:58 |
| Xcell | u r a dilemmmmmma. | 05:58 |
| Xcell | lol | 05:58 |
| Xcell | just stop by your nearest dialup dealer and donate...you should receive instructions via snail mail. | 06:00 |
| deuryte | is that next dooe to the w2k green box?? | 06:00 |
| deuryte | to the * | 06:00 |
| Xcell | ya they dont take american xpress though. | 06:01 |
| deuryte | maybe some bill gate gift certificates | 06:01 |
| Xcell | sudo apt-get remove./bill gates | 06:01 |
| deuryte | he he he he | 06:02 |
| deuryte | ok, times up. zzzzzzzzzzz-zzzzzzzzzzzzzz | 06:02 |
| Xcell | im wore out right now..cant think straight...tired. | 06:02 |
| deuryte | inebriated?? | 06:03 |
| Xcell | no...tired | 06:03 |
| deuryte | inhibitions toxic ?? | 06:03 |
| Xcell | did u finnish vid? | 06:04 |
| deuryte | negative, got lamblasted with other schtuff......... | 06:04 |
| Xcell | k | 06:04 |
| deuryte | will do when i can mentally fit it all together........ | 06:05 |
| Xcell | sleepig usually does that | 06:05 |
| the-erm | anyone know off the top of their head how to change the volume up/down step percentage? | 06:05 |
| the-erm | kmix doesn't really have an option for it. | 06:05 |
| deuryte | do they make remotes for pc's ?? | 06:05 |
| Xcell | I havent seen 1 the-erm | 06:06 |
| the-erm | deuryte: I have a gyration media center remote - basically a usb keyboard - really nice I can press next from anywhere in the house really nice when you have wireless headphones. | 06:06 |
| deuryte | ty. key board is the control head ?? | 06:07 |
| the-erm | Works out of the box, but you might need to set up a few things in ~/.Xmodmap | 06:07 |
| Xcell | wireless phones cook brain cells. | 06:07 |
| the-erm | A computer monitor probably cooks brain cells ... | 06:07 |
| deuryte | thankx the-erm | 06:07 |
| Xcell | lol | 06:07 |
| Xcell | rf maround the cranium is nutritious. | 06:08 |
| Xcell | around | 06:08 |
| deuryte | see ya !! | 06:10 |
| Xcell | k..3 or better | 06:10 |
| deuryte | 4 | 06:10 |
| deuryte | 26 | 06:10 |
| Xcell | k | 06:10 |
| deuryte | 10148 | 06:10 |
| deuryte | 10-48 | 06:10 |
| Xcell | 26 | 06:11 |
| Xcell | 51 | 06:11 |
| deuryte | 10-98 bed | 06:11 |
| * maduser is listening to Come together by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok] | 06:22 |
| maduser | hello? | 06:23 |
| maduser | to see somthing cool, open a query with yourself | 06:24 |
| maduser | ot even says in the conerner talikg to yourself | 06:25 |
| dreaming | lol | 06:25 |
| maduser | its quite funny | 06:25 |
| maduser | it looks like someone is repeating everything you say | 06:26 |
| * maduser is listening to Eleanor Rigby by Beatles on Beatles 1 [Amarok] | 06:26 |
| crimsun | (please don't spam the channel with song status updates ;) | 06:27 |
| maduser | i didn't think anyone was on | 06:27 |
| hydrogen | which.. one would think... would make you less likely to spam it | 06:29 |
| maduser | its like talking to yourself when no one is on | 06:29 |
| dreaming | I guess it's like whistling. | 06:29 |
| maduser | sort of | 06:29 |
| hydrogen | except much less appropriate | 06:30 |
| maduser | yeah | 06:30 |
| maduser | ill open a query with myself | 06:30 |
| dreaming | What's the keyboard shortcut for changing desktops? | 06:30 |
| maduser | in compiz? | 06:30 |
| dreaming | no, just normal kubuntu | 06:30 |
| dreaming | compiz doesn't like me | 06:31 |
| maduser | oh? | 06:31 |
| dreaming | makes taskbars disappear lol | 06:31 |
| maduser | you don't have a teme manager | 06:31 |
| maduser | when you download compiz you also have to install emerald | 06:31 |
| hydrogen | compiz is really not worth the effort | 06:31 |
| maduser | if you don't there will be no taskbar | 06:31 |
| maduser | it makes your computer look cool | 06:32 |
| maduser | brag to all your firends who use windows | 06:32 |
| neville__ | I have Compiz running fine =/ | 06:32 |
| neville__ | Didn't need any effort | 06:32 |
| maduser | same here | 06:32 |
| Xcell | I queried myself...no one showed up. | 06:34 |
| maduser | are you registered? | 06:34 |
| Xcell | j/k | 06:34 |
| maduser | ? | 06:34 |
| sub[t]rnl | Xcell: hehe | 06:35 |
| Xcell | registered nut. | 06:35 |
| maduser | double click yorself | 06:35 |
| maduser | double click yourself | 06:35 |
| Xcell | it hurts | 06:35 |
| maduser | same here | 06:35 |
| maduser | hehe | 06:36 |
| maduser | god i'm tired | 06:36 |
| Xcell | sleeeeepy. | 06:37 |
| maduser | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy | 06:37 |
| Xcell | u r sleeeeepy. | 06:37 |
| maduser | i am sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeepy | 06:37 |
| Xcell | snorz | 06:37 |
| maduser | yeah | 06:37 |
| Xcell | stop Yawning. | 06:37 |
| maduser | that helps | 06:38 |
| maduser | hmmm? | 06:39 |
| maduser | my computer is all messes up | 06:40 |
| Xcell | enjoy. | 06:40 |
| maduser | what? | 06:40 |
| Xcell | lol | 06:40 |
| maduser | did you............ | 06:40 |
| maduser | nah | 06:40 |
| Xcell | ya | 06:40 |
| maduser | oh | 06:40 |
| maduser | this certanly is a problem | 06:41 |
| Xcell | what | 06:41 |
| maduser | I think my compter is trying to put me in a siezure | 06:41 |
| Xcell | how | 06:41 |
| maduser | every thing is flashing | 06:41 |
| Xcell | refresh rate screwed up | 06:41 |
| maduser | wow its like a light show | 06:42 |
| Xcell | ? | 06:42 |
| maduser | now my compter is all pink | 06:42 |
| sub[t]rnl | theres a fix in the repo's | 06:42 |
| Xcell | u smoke 2 mutch | 06:42 |
| sub[t]rnl | apt-get --purge remove acid | 06:42 |
| maduser | its so...............femimine | 06:42 |
| sub[t]rnl | +1 bad joke | 06:42 |
| sub[t]rnl | :/ | 06:43 |
| Xcell | lol | 06:43 |
| maduser | my computers colors are all messed up | 06:43 |
| maduser | lets see... | 06:43 |
| Xcell | suso remove maduser./ | 06:43 |
| Xcell | sudo\ | 06:43 |
| maduser | ? | 06:43 |
| Jay-Oh-En | how do i transfer music to a phillips mp3 players | 06:44 |
| Xcell | install 2 paper cups ans some wire. | 06:44 |
| Xcell | and | 06:44 |
| maduser | lets try a refrese desktop | 06:44 |
| maduser | lets try a refresh desktop | 06:45 |
| Jay-Oh-En | shut up meany | 06:45 |
| Xcell | j/k | 06:45 |
| sub[t]rnl | Jay-Oh-En: its not getting recognized? | 06:45 |
| sub[t]rnl | when you just, plug it up | 06:45 |
| Jay-Oh-En | hold on ill tell you | 06:45 |
| bazhang | Jay-Oh-En: open amarok, then plug it in--it should be recognized | 06:46 |
| maduser | the only mp3 player i have ever seen instantly work is a Rollei | 06:46 |
| sub[t]rnl | cause its the only one you have | 06:46 |
| sub[t]rnl | zing! | 06:46 |
| Xcell | lol | 06:46 |
| sub[t]rnl | lol | 06:46 |
| maduser | no I have 7 | 06:46 |
| sub[t]rnl | wowsa | 06:47 |
| maduser | kubuntu treats it like a removeable flash drive | 06:47 |
| maduser | simiple to usr | 06:47 |
| Xcell | wow | 06:47 |
| maduser | simiple to use | 06:47 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah, thats hal and d-bus hard at work | 06:47 |
| maduser | yeah | 06:47 |
| bazhang | all my mp3 players have been recognized--haven't tried the zune though :} | 06:47 |
| sub[t]rnl | zune.. isn't that a cell phone/mp3 player? | 06:48 |
| sub[t]rnl | type dealio. Thought I saw it advertised on tv | 06:48 |
| sub[t]rnl | maybe i'm way off | 06:48 |
| maduser | i don't think so | 06:48 |
| bazhang | zune is the ms ipod-killer heh | 06:48 |
| maduser | the juke is | 06:48 |
| northpunk | anyone know hot to get the compiz to work on kubuntu 7.10? i finally got the updates to get my nvida drivers to work.. but the commands for compiz don't work. pm me | 06:49 |
| sub[t]rnl | what commands you using? | 06:50 |
| Jay-Oh-En | no it doesnt | 06:50 |
| sub[t]rnl | Jay-Oh-En: odd, does lsusb show anything? | 06:50 |
| maduser | compiz --relace? | 06:50 |
| northpunk | well i am trying to use what ever they have in the control panel to activate.. like ctr alt down.. but nothing happens | 06:50 |
| northpunk | done that | 06:50 |
| northpunk | i spent the last 5 hours going through tutorials.. and every fix that seems to work for someone | 06:51 |
| maduser | did you install the settings manager? | 06:51 |
| northpunk | and compiz-kde that doesn't install itself automatically. had to manually install that | 06:51 |
| northpunk | even restarted X many a time | 06:52 |
| maduser | kde? | 06:52 |
| sub[t]rnl | thats not really needed | 06:52 |
| sub[t]rnl | does ccsm bring up anything | 06:52 |
| maduser | the kde window manager? | 06:52 |
| northpunk | i am using kubuntu.. it uses the kmenu | 06:52 |
| northpunk | yeah it brings up the sttings control panel with scope, cube and everything | 06:52 |
| maduser | do you use emerald? | 06:52 |
| northpunk | but the commands that they state in the settings.. don't do anything | 06:52 |
| northpunk | have emerald instaleld but it does nothing more then change my themes | 06:53 |
| sub[t]rnl | thats all emerald is, a decorator | 06:53 |
| sub[t]rnl | just like compiz-kde | 06:53 |
| maduser | I was wondering if he had the problem of no taskbar | 06:53 |
| northpunk | ok well how do i get the cube, shimmer, add etc to work? | 06:53 |
| sub[t]rnl | is ps ax|grep compiz showing you its running? | 06:53 |
| sub[t]rnl | is "ps ax|grep compiz" showing you its running? | 06:53 |
| sub[t]rnl | trying not to confuse | 06:54 |
| northpunk | my nvidia works at it is supposed to... but when i was in gnome and did the whole desktop effects thing.. it always told me it couldn't activate | 06:54 |
| northpunk | grep compiz? | 06:54 |
| sub[t]rnl | run that command | 06:54 |
| sub[t]rnl | ps ax|grep compiz | 06:54 |
| northpunk | 14206 pts/1 R+ 0:00 grep compiz | 06:55 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah, you havn't started it | 06:55 |
| northpunk | how do i? | 06:55 |
| sub[t]rnl | do what maduser said | 06:55 |
| sub[t]rnl | compiz --replace | 06:55 |
| northpunk | i have done that many times.. hold on | 06:55 |
| maduser | does the screen turn black? | 06:55 |
| northpunk | Checking for Xgl: not present. | 06:55 |
| northpunk | Detected PCI ID for VGA: 01:00.0 0300: 10de:0110 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present. | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Checking for non power of two support: present. | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Checking for Composite extension: present. | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Comparing resolution (1440x900) to maximum 3D texture size (2048): Passed. | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Checking for nVidia: present. | 06:56 |
| northpunk | Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity | 06:56 |
| northpunk | no /usr/bin/metacity found, exiting | 06:56 |
| northpunk | metacity? | 06:56 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah | 06:56 |
| maduser | isn't that a window theme? | 06:56 |
| sub[t]rnl | gnome | 06:56 |
| maduser | ah | 06:56 |
| sub[t]rnl | sudo apt-get install emerald | 06:56 |
| northpunk | and no it didn't go black | 06:56 |
| northpunk | emerald is already the newest version | 06:57 |
| maduser | so it does not work | 06:57 |
| maduser | do you have it set as emerald as the window manager? | 06:57 |
| northpunk | how do i do/check that? | 06:57 |
| maduser | settings manager | 06:58 |
| sub[t]rnl | or run emerald --replace | 06:58 |
| northpunk | "system settings"? | 06:58 |
| maduser | no | 06:58 |
| maduser | settings | 06:58 |
| path_ | E: Couldn't configure pre-depend python-central for python-apt, probably a dependency cycle. | 06:58 |
| path_ | Im still getting that message error | 06:58 |
| Jay-Oh-En | sub[t]rnl: how do i get it to work | 06:58 |
| maduser | avanced desktop effects | 06:58 |
| path_ | what can I do ? | 06:58 |
| northpunk | emerald --replace is just sitting there with no text or anything | 06:58 |
| northpunk | now my terminal isn't doing a thing | 06:59 |
| bazhang | northpunk: alt-f2 then emerald --replace | 07:01 |
| maduser | yeah | 07:01 |
| maduser | wait northpunk, you were doing everything in the terminal? | 07:01 |
| maduser | not the run command? | 07:01 |
| northpunk | gtk warning ** cannot open display | 07:02 |
| sub[t]rnl | first off, compiz isn't starting | 07:02 |
| sub[t]rnl | so no need to run emerald | 07:02 |
| northpunk | so do compiz there too | 07:02 |
| northpunk | ? | 07:02 |
| sub[t]rnl | you don't have your video card driver setup | 07:02 |
| sub[t]rnl | <northpunk> Less than 65536kb of memory and nVidiaaborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity | 07:02 |
| northpunk | samething about metacity not found | 07:02 |
| northpunk | my nvidia is finally set up and working | 07:03 |
| sub[t]rnl | well, compiz was made for gnome, so its trying to load the window manager (default in gnome is metacity) | 07:03 |
| northpunk | i even get the 3d logo when i start kubuntu now | 07:03 |
| sub[t]rnl | because compiz is failing to start | 07:03 |
| maduser | ug his compiz thinks he has ubuntu | 07:03 |
| maduser | got to change that | 07:03 |
| northpunk | yeah i reinstalled ubuntu-desktop still didn't work at all | 07:03 |
| northpunk | so i removed it again | 07:03 |
| sub[t]rnl | heh... | 07:03 |
| * sub[t]rnl sighs | 07:03 |
| sub[t]rnl | pay attention to the errors that its giving you | 07:04 |
| northpunk | i started with ubuntu server.. no desktop | 07:04 |
| northpunk | installed ubuntu desktop.. never worked | 07:04 |
| northpunk | then i installed kubuntu because it lokos and runs better.. and runs povray hwo i want it too | 07:04 |
| maduser | it has nothing to do with the desktop | 07:04 |
| northpunk | so i should spend another hour waiting for ubuntu desktop to install again? | 07:04 |
| maduser | no | 07:05 |
| northpunk | i mean gnome | 07:05 |
| maduser | you got to change the settings so compiz uses emerald | 07:05 |
| sub[t]rnl | compiz wont start | 07:05 |
| northpunk | but everyone is telling me why this isn't working or why that isn't working.. no one has told me how to change that setting | 07:05 |
| maduser | wait | 07:06 |
| northpunk | it is all about finding what error messages i geet | 07:06 |
| maduser | are you like new to linux? | 07:06 |
| neo | guys when I use dcd to play cd the volume remains very low even with full cd volume in KMix | 07:06 |
| neo | Why? | 07:06 |
| northpunk | final told xp to screw off because the bugs were to much | 07:06 |
| sub[t]rnl | neo: try alsamixer | 07:06 |
| sub[t]rnl | northpunk: you need xgl, compiz isn't loading because of your video card | 07:07 |
| maduser | yeah | 07:07 |
| neo | same results with alsamixer too | 07:07 |
| northpunk | xserverl-xgl? | 07:08 |
| neo | Is it my soundcard? | 07:09 |
| sub[t]rnl | are you using kde or gnome? | 07:09 |
| northpunk | kde | 07:09 |
| neo | kde | 07:09 |
| northpunk | i have installed and removed gnome so many times trying the different patches and things | 07:09 |
| sub[t]rnl | northpunk: sudo apt-get install xserver-xgl. then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (or alt + ctrl + backspace) | 07:09 |
| sub[t]rnl | then run compiz --replace | 07:09 |
| northpunk | and i know i can switch between the 2.. but gnome cluttered up my kstart with to many links | 07:09 |
| maduser | installing gonome won't do anything | 07:10 |
| dreaming | that xserver seems to have done the trick for me as well | 07:10 |
| northpunk | ok well xgl is installing still | 07:10 |
| dreaming | cheers | 07:10 |
| northpunk | brb | 07:10 |
| dreaming | im brand brand new to linux :D | 07:10 |
| sub[t]rnl | dreaming: welcome aboard | 07:10 |
| maduser | ah | 07:11 |
| sub[t]rnl | neo: do you have volume issues with other apps? or just dcd | 07:11 |
| Xcell | dreaming: sudo apt-get remive./bill gates. | 07:11 |
| neo | judt dcd, others are fine | 07:11 |
| Xcell | no donnt | 07:12 |
| sub[t]rnl | neo: check the man pages, i havn't used it, i use mpg123 for console based players | 07:12 |
| neo | ok thanks | 07:12 |
| maduser | vlc | 07:12 |
| Xcell | sub[t]rnl: Does that work well? | 07:12 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah, i dig it | 07:12 |
| Xcell | Ill try that. | 07:13 |
| sub[t]rnl | well, used too before linux desktops got so damn purdy | 07:13 |
| sub[t]rnl | now i've abandoned my anti-xwindow ways | 07:13 |
| maduser | before x? | 07:13 |
| sub[t]rnl | i started using linux in 96, we had x | 07:13 |
| maduser | ah | 07:14 |
| maduser | but it was really primitive? | 07:14 |
| Xcell | I had 12 mhz in 96. | 07:14 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah | 07:14 |
| sub[t]rnl | still better than windows at the time though | 07:14 |
| sub[t]rnl | Xcell: lol | 07:15 |
| Xcell | he he | 07:15 |
| Xcell | 286 | 07:15 |
| maduser | 95 was when windows was still.... | 07:15 |
| maduser | usable? | 07:16 |
| sub[t]rnl | i drink too much, i have trouble remembering this morning | 07:17 |
| sub[t]rnl | :/ | 07:17 |
| Xcell | lol | 07:17 |
| maduser | thats bad | 07:17 |
| sub[t]rnl | yeah | 07:17 |
| Xcell | hiccup! | 07:17 |
| maduser | blackout | 07:17 |
| sub[t]rnl | whats worse is when I have an external hard-drive filled with 5 years worth of logs | 07:17 |
| sub[t]rnl | cause my memory is so bad | 07:17 |
| * sub[t]rnl pops a top | 07:17 |
| Xcell | lol 5 yrs of logs | 07:17 |
| * maduser waits til he can drink | 07:18 |
| sub[t]rnl | when you start having to grep your ~/.bash_history, you know its getting bad | 07:18 |
| Xcell | sips tennesse 190 proof. | 07:18 |
| maduser | are you trying to kill yourself? | 07:18 |
| northpunk | my desktop started to load and then... goes white with nothing but a curser in front of it... restarted a few times but i couldn't get it working normal again with out removing xserver-xgl | 07:19 |
| purpleposeidon | sub[t]rnl: It can't be too bad.... you still know know about ~.bash_history , right? | 07:21 |
| sub[t]rnl | +1 purpleposeidon | 07:21 |
| northpunk | when i ran the ps grep thing from alt f2.. i got a few lins of numbers | 07:21 |
| northpunk | but like i siad... my desktop screen would go straight white when i tried to log on | 07:21 |
| northpunk | or after it loaded rather | 07:21 |
| sub[t]rnl | you running gutsy? | 07:22 |
| sub[t]rnl | this sounds like an old mesalib bug | 07:22 |
| maduser | the curcial question | 07:22 |
| northpunk | so more input would be greatly appreciated | 07:23 |
| sub[t]rnl | you first | 07:23 |
| sub[t]rnl | what version of kubuntu are you running? | 07:24 |
| northpunk | kubuntu gutsy gibbon | 07:24 |
| northpunk | so 7.10 | 07:24 |
| sub[t]rnl | hrm | 07:25 |
| sub[t]rnl | not sure broseph | 07:25 |
| sub[t]rnl | i've never had a problem installing on nvidia cards | 07:26 |
| sub[t]rnl | ati is another story | 07:26 |
| sub[t]rnl | lspci |grep VGA | 07:26 |
| sub[t]rnl | says what? | 07:26 |
| maduser | i use ati ad had no problems | 07:26 |
| northpunk | my bigest problem WAS getting my invidia driver to install | 07:26 |
| northpunk | but compiz website has a GREAT tuturial on installing nvidia, radiun, or intel | 07:27 |
| sub[t]rnl | maduser: you using the current driver they put out? | 07:27 |
| northpunk | NOTHING on using kde | 07:27 |
| sub[t]rnl | compiz wasn't made for kde | 07:27 |
| northpunk | but you guys are telling me that i can get this to run on kde when i said i should just try installing gnome again.. | 07:28 |
| northpunk | no one is telling me how to get emerald to work insead as was suggested | 07:28 |
| === xevious- is now known as xevious |
| northpunk | was suggested.. but not assisted | 07:28 |
| sub[t]rnl | emerald is a window decorator for compiz | 07:28 |
| northpunk | that has been stated as well | 07:28 |
| sub[t]rnl | ok, thats i'm not telling you how to get emerald to work | 07:29 |
| sub[t]rnl | thats why | 07:29 |
| sub[t]rnl | need compiz to work before we worry about window decorations | 07:29 |
| northpunk | but someone says compiz won't work with kubuntu | 07:30 |
| maduser | but doesn't his problem include the matacty themes? | 07:30 |
| sub[t]rnl | no one said that | 07:30 |
| maduser | ah | 07:30 |
| northpunk | and they also said i don't have to use gnome | 07:30 |
| northpunk | so i am hearing 2 things neither help | 07:30 |
| northpunk | i should try vista :S | 07:31 |
| maduser | I the past if i had a problem i would google it | 07:31 |
| maduser | I never had to use the chat room for help | 07:32 |
| northpunk | i have been using google, ubuntuforums, kubuntuforums, and msn messanger for the last 6 hours now | 07:32 |
| northpunk | not one tetorial has helped | 07:32 |
| northpunk | wow my head hurts | 07:32 |
| eltoro | northpunk : it worked for me but it slowed down my laptop, whick runned compiz and emerald well on ubuntu | 07:34 |
| maduser | you know you don't have to use compiz | 07:34 |
| maduser | its just eyecandy | 07:35 |
| eltoro | i uninstalled it | 07:35 |
| maduser | cool | 07:35 |
| eltoro | yeah but it's much fun show it to your frinds who use vista | 07:35 |
| eltoro | hehe | 07:35 |
| maduser | thats the only reason i have it | 07:35 |
| eltoro | they're like whick windows is it | 07:36 |
| === neville is now known as neville__ |
| eltoro | haha | 07:36 |
| maduser | are there things to wory about if you update your video card? | 07:36 |
| eltoro | im not a really advanced user but i dont you'd have probs | 07:37 |
| eltoro | try to google the name of your card with kubuntu problems bla bla if you dont find anything go ahead | 07:37 |
| maduser | like form a really old ati to a new ati card] | 07:38 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | test | 07:41 |
| === neville is now known as neville__ |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | anyone still on lol? | 07:47 |
| gadren_ | uh, hi | 07:48 |
| === gadren_ is now known as gadren |
| sub[t]rnl | yo | 07:48 |
| eltoro | maduser like i said google it if people had problems | 07:50 |
| eltoro | you'll see it | 07:50 |
| eltoro | yo | 07:50 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | whee .. | 07:54 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | tought my conection was dieying on me again | 07:54 |
| eltoro | no there's not a lot of activity here at 3am et | 07:54 |
| eltoro | haha | 07:54 |
| === neville is now known as neville__ |
| posingaspopular | yea im here | 08:26 |
| posingaspopular | not really paying attention though | 08:26 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | OMG | 08:29 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | peoples are alive! | 08:29 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | !afk | 08:29 |
| ubotu | You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages : use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently - See also !Guidelines | 08:29 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | cool | 08:30 |
| posingaspopular | n1ghtm4r3_: that's why there are offtopic chans | 08:31 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | posingaspopular: yah but im a newbee to IRC's too .. im usualy a IM user | 08:31 |
| posingaspopular | ah yea i was new to IRC a year ago | 08:32 |
| posingaspopular | now i have irc, IM, gmail chat open.. | 08:32 |
| hatter | what is the name of the low latency kernel for use with audio ? | 08:34 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | hatter: uh? | 08:38 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | hatter: i have no idea what your asking .. you want a good program to listen to music? | 08:39 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | mh anyone know what is the X Window ? | 08:41 |
| hatter | n1ghtm4r3_, to run rosegarden a low latency kernel is needed | 08:45 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | hatter: what is rosegarden (dont mind me , im a Kubnoobto) | 08:46 |
| hatter | n1ghtm4r3_, rosegarden is a midi sequencing program | 08:46 |
| n1ghtm4r3_ | hatter: Oooooh then maybe you should consider Ubuntu Studios | 08:47 |
| hatter | n1ghtm4r3_, yep, thats it, i just installed it , the kernel related is 1.6.22-14-rt | 08:48 |
| hatter | '2.6.22-14-rt' | 08:48 |
| hatter | time to reboot, hope it worked :) | 08:48 |
| arrrghhh | hey all | 08:53 |
| arrrghhh | so i have this interesting problem on reboot... alsamixer's master volume always goes way low, and i have to turn it up every time the computer is restarted. is there any way to have it save the master voluem? | 08:54 |
| vzduch | arrrghhh: sudo alsactl store | 09:06 |
| arrrghhh | vzduch: ok i'm going to reboot... | 09:17 |
| arrrghhh | vzduch: that didn't work... | 09:20 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't have this issue in xfce. | 09:20 |
| mikkael | i want prevent a specific package from updating. i can do this in synaptic, but how does adept_updater know that it shouldnt update that package ? | 09:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know if you can with adept... | 09:27 |
| Kite_DH | i need sum help here... how can i upgrade to 7.10 | 09:27 |
| Kite_DH | i got feisty rightnow | 09:27 |
| arrrghhh | fire up a terminal | 09:28 |
| Kite_DH | running | 09:28 |
| arrrghhh | sudo update-manager -d | 09:28 |
| arrrghhh | woah... it's offering me hardy already? i didn't realize i had THOSE repos on... sheesh | 09:29 |
| mikkael | adept is a front end for aptitude, right ? | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | either that or apt-get... i don't remember | 09:30 |
| arrrghhh | it's a gui for APT | 09:31 |
| arrrghhh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adept_Package_Manager | 09:31 |
| mikkael | so it should be possible to keep a specific version? | 09:31 |
| mikkael | via terminal .. | 09:31 |
| arrrghhh | sure? i dunno. | 09:32 |
| Kite_DH | arrrghhh: it says some packagerepos are deaktivated | 09:32 |
| Kite_DH | is that a problem?? | 09:32 |
| arrrghhh | no | 09:33 |
| arrrghhh | you can reactivate after the dist-upgrade | 09:33 |
| mikkael | from apt-get manpage: --no-upgrade: Do not upgrade packages; When used in conjunction with install, no-upgrade will prevent packages on the command line from being upgraded if they are already installed. so "sudo apt-get install --no-upgrade openarena-data" would do this job ? | 09:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say so | 09:35 |
| arrrghhh | try it | 09:35 |
| Kite_DH | Canonical Ltd. no longer provides support for the following software packages. You can still get support from the community. | 09:36 |
| Kite_DH | it says | 09:36 |
| Kite_DH | arrrghhh: you mean, if the upgrade is done, i should just update my packages? | 09:37 |
| mikkael | maybe some packages moved from main to universe or whatever | 09:38 |
| Kite_DH | oh, well... | 09:38 |
| mikkael | universe and multiverse are not officially supported | 09:38 |
| Kite_DH | after the upgrade is done, i have to run "dist-upgrade" right? | 09:38 |
| mikkael | as far as i know | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | uh i don't think that's necessary | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | update-manager -d is the same thing | 09:38 |
| Kite_DH | oh, aight | 09:38 |
| Kite_DH | never used the update-manager | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, i'm used to xfce | 09:38 |
| Kite_DH | it downloads the upgrade now | 09:38 |
| arrrghhh | i forgot the apt-get way... | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea the update-manager way is the easiest imo | 09:39 |
| Kite_DH | 1343 packages | 09:39 |
| Kite_DH | nice | 09:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea if you had done "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it would've done the same thing. oops. | 09:40 |
| Kite_DH | lul | 09:40 |
| Kite_DH | :) | 09:40 |
| arrrghhh | gotta love linux, they give you 143 ways to skin a cat | 09:40 |
| Kite_DH | :o? | 09:40 |
| mikkael | dist-upgrade isnt the same as update-manager -d ?! | 09:41 |
| mikkael | well dist-upgrade leaves me on gutsy.. | 09:41 |
| Kite_DH | :O | 09:41 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | well maybe not. | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, but i'm positive update-manager -d gets the job done | 09:42 |
| mikkael | i always update with dist-upgrade | 09:42 |
| arrrghhh | is it not Kite_DH? | 09:42 |
| Kite_DH | does its job | 09:42 |
| mikkael | dist-upgrade will update everything, even if things have to be removed | 09:42 |
| Kite_DH | 1 hour to go :( | 09:42 |
| mikkael | safe-upgrade will not remove anything | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | at least you're not doing this on dialup | 09:43 |
| Kite_DH | are you doing this on dialup? | 09:43 |
| mikkael | but to get to another version 7.04-7.10 or higher, dist-upgrade wont do that | 09:43 |
| arrrghhh | me? heck no | 09:44 |
| arrrghhh | just sayin lol | 09:44 |
| Kite_DH | heh | 09:44 |
| mikkael | update-manager isnt installed on my system, is this gnome ? | 09:46 |
| arrrghhh | i'm on kubuntu | 09:46 |
| arrrghhh | kde | 09:46 |
| Kite_DH | me too | 09:46 |
| mikkael | hehe maybe i should reinstall kubuntu-desktop :P | 09:46 |
| arrrghhh | the original install on this system was xubuntu, but i put kubuntu on it since. | 09:46 |
| mikkael | update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates | 09:47 |
| arrrghhh | it's possible it came w/xfce... | 09:47 |
| mikkael | thats it | 09:48 |
| arrrghhh | never had gnome on here | 09:48 |
| mikkael | xubuntu has a lot gnome | 09:48 |
| arrrghhh | well i don't know how Kite_DH got it | 09:48 |
| arrrghhh | yea that's true | 09:48 |
| Kite_DH | i moved from windoze to kubuntu edgy | 09:49 |
| Kite_DH | long long time ago | 09:49 |
| Kite_DH | lol | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | did you ever have gnome? | 09:49 |
| Kite_DH | not installed, i checked ubuntu 7.04 out tho...via live-cd | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 09:49 |
| mikkael | gtk apps integrate good with kde imo :) but i dont like the file saving/opening dialogs :P | 09:49 |
| Kite_DH | it was nice, but i love KDE | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 09:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea i prefer kde from the 3 big ones | 09:49 |
| mikkael | for a good look try: sudo aptitude install kde-style-qtcurve gtk2-engines-qtcurve | 09:52 |
| === Agrajag` is now known as Agrajag |
| ingo_ | Hi there - does anybody know how to install a KDE theme *.kth onto a remote Kubuntu box to which I only have command line access? | 09:56 |
| === ingo_ is now known as plodder |
| Chadwick|359 | Hey there everybody. The buttons along the bottom of my ktorrent window seem to have disappeared, and I can't seem to find anything in shortcuts or the options menus that will bring them back, anybody have any hints? | 09:57 |
| mikkael | they come from the module that gives you informations, is this loaded ? | 09:58 |
| Chadwick|359 | Huh, I didn't unload it, how the heck did that happen? Thanks, mikkael. | 09:58 |
| spawn57 | !vmware | 10:01 |
| ubotu | VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers | 10:01 |
| administrator | hello | 10:04 |
| === administrator is now known as rafal |
| rafal | hi | 10:05 |
| lg188 | hello , wlorlf | 10:08 |
| lg188 | world* | 10:08 |
| lg188 | howto install auda city | 10:09 |
| lg188 | not command ... | 10:10 |
| sigma | i finally found a decent video encoder. try kvideoencoder. its seems 2b da only one that works properly | 10:12 |
| sigma | are the kubuntu tutorial lessons for beginners? | 10:13 |
| pastulio | im swapping my old agp tnt riva graphics card for a gf5700 on my kubuntu box, will it just work without any trouble or will i have to do anything special first? | 10:13 |
| sigma | will a 250gb seagate sata drive work fine on kubuntu 7.10 as a secondary hard drive? | 10:15 |
| sigma | my primary hdd is currently a 80gb seagate sata drive | 10:15 |
| sigma | anyone there? | 10:17 |
| plodder | sigma: why shouldn't it? | 10:51 |
| === richard__ is now known as intrepidlytrite |
| intrepidlytrite | hey, I've got a webcam question...anyone here? | 10:56 |
| Linux_Galore | intrepidlytrite: in what way ? | 11:05 |
| Linux_Galore | wonder why people ask about sata when its just a variant of the normal ide standard | 11:06 |
| === Flosoft_ is now known as Flosoft |
| intrepidlytrite | linux_galore, I've got a webcam installed, drivers are loaded, apps recognize it, but I still get black screens only...any idea? | 11:11 |
| Linux_Galore | intrepidlytrite: nope | 11:11 |
| intrepidlytrite | linux_galore ok, thanks | 11:13 |
| Linux_Galore | webcam howto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam | 11:13 |
| intrepidlytrite | yes, had a look there too | 11:13 |
| === Deviance is now known as TimS |
| Linux_Galore | intrepidlytrite: some times I find loging out and back in (not a reboot) can make usb devices work better | 11:14 |
| intrepidlytrite | linux_galore yes, well, I've tried that....do you think it could be a graphics driver issue? | 11:17 |
| === MeTa[AwAy] is now known as Metam |
| sigma | how do i use firewall builder? everything is greyed out | 11:20 |
| kiiz | pls where can i find libdvdcss2 needed to play dvds | 11:21 |
| sigma | kiiz: its in the medibuntu repository | 11:21 |
| kiiz | is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory | 11:24 |
| kiiz | sigma: is it in the main,restricted ,multiverse or universe directory | 11:24 |
| kiiz | sigma: thanks i found it | 11:27 |
| === edgard is now known as skwalf |
| kiiz | how can i play mp3 in kubuntu.transcoding my collection to .ogg is an overkill | 11:45 |
| pag | kiiz, install libxine1-ffmpeg | 11:46 |
| Migs-se | hello | 11:46 |
| === Pupeno_ is now known as Pupeno |
| Migs-se | about-to-be-new-user-of-Kubuntu here :) | 11:46 |
| tuxwulf | What's more, not all portable MP3 playeers support oggs | 11:46 |
| Migs-se | I'm just preparing my PC for it. But in the meantime, I want to get a bit informed. :) | 11:47 |
| pag | Migs-se, sure. Just ask your question(s) :-) | 11:47 |
| Migs-se | I've heard that the Linux Media Center is based on Kununtu. If I install Kubuntu 7.04, am I able to download the media ceter specific componets? | 11:47 |
| Migs-se | *center | 11:47 |
| Migs-se | *Kubuntu | 11:48 |
| Migs-se | man, my typo's are nasty | 11:48 |
| Migs-se | Basically, I just want a non-resource hungry OS to run a media center on to play videos on the hard drive/cd-dvd or stream off the network from a Windows-Based PC. | 11:49 |
| pag | Migs-se, I'm not sure, but it might be possible, if it's in the repositories | 11:49 |
| Migs-se | I see | 11:50 |
| Migs-se | a friend mentioned it uses MythTV for the Media Center aspect | 11:50 |
| Migs-se | well, I'll find out when I start installing it in about 5 minutes | 11:51 |
| Migs-se | busy making an image of the hard drive before I start. | 11:51 |
| pag | Migs-se, at least MythTV is in the repo's... so even if you will not be able to install Media Centre in other way, it still should be manually configurable somehow.. | 11:52 |
| Migs-se | Actually, I'm glad there are people around here today. :) | 11:52 |
| Migs-se | I see | 11:52 |
| Migs-se | do you know how large is the download for MythTV? | 11:53 |
| pag | Migs-se, on my system it says "After unpacking 155MB of additional disk space will be used." but the result may vary a bit in both direcions | 11:54 |
| kiiz | pag: did't find it in medibuntu repo | 11:54 |
| pag | kiiz, it's in multiverse | 11:55 |
| pag | !info libxine1-ffmpeg | 11:55 |
| Migs-se | Hmm | 11:55 |
| ubotu | libxine1-ffmpeg: mpeg related plugins for libxine1. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.7-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 435 kB, installed size 908 kB | 11:55 |
| Migs-se | guess I'll only find out when I start Kubuntu then | 11:55 |
| Migs-se | thanks anyway pag | 11:55 |
| Migs-se | busy starting up Kubuntu now | 11:56 |
| Migs-se | Hmmm | 11:56 |
| pag | Migs-se, good luck :) | 11:56 |
| Migs-se | looks like Kubuntu Install is not TV Friendly | 11:56 |
| Migs-se | getting bad picture of blues and purples | 11:56 |
| Migs-se | guess I have to hook up a monitor | 11:57 |
| Migs-se | by the way | 11:59 |
| Migs-se | is Kubuntu Ati friendly now? | 11:59 |
| Migs-se | I remember with the older linux distros I used, I could't use an ati card | 12:00 |
| pag | Migs-se, sure it is - Ati just isn't Linux friedly yet ;P | 12:00 |
| Migs-se | Hmmm | 12:00 |
| Migs-se | then I may have a problem with TV Out then | 12:00 |
| Migs-se | how about Nvidia? I have a 5200 that is't being used | 12:00 |
| pag | Migs-se, nvidia works great as far as I know :) (I don't have experience with TV-out though..) | 12:01 |
| Migs-se | Ah, we have a visual | 12:01 |
| Migs-se | looks like Kubuntu needs a monitor for installation, heh | 12:01 |
| Migs-se | I'll try the Nvidia if the Ati fails | 12:02 |
| Migs-se | righty, this is where I need some real help, heh | 12:05 |
| Migs-se | I'm at the partition disk space now | 12:05 |
| Migs-se | I'm thinking of using it all, but can it still be read on a Windows-Based PC? | 12:05 |
| Kite_DH | Migs-se: yes | 12:06 |
| Migs-se | so use the guided-use entire space option or guided-use the largest continuous free space? | 12:07 |
| Migs-se | don't want to make separate partitions, so I rather use all of the free space. | 12:07 |
| Migs-se | it will be just 1 oS. | 12:07 |
| kiiz | pag: under what dir is it in.it is not in the x,libx dir | 12:09 |
| stdin | kiiz: it's a package you install with adept | 12:09 |
| pag | kiiz, dir? just open konsole, and type "sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg " | 12:10 |
| pag | kiiz, ..or use Adept, if you prefer graphical way | 12:10 |
| kiiz | i dont have an internet connection! | 12:10 |
| Migs-se | really? | 12:11 |
| Migs-se | how are you able to communicate here then? | 12:11 |
| pag | kiiz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/libs/libxine1-ffmpeg <- you can download all the needed packages from here.. | 12:12 |
| kiiz | i am in an internet cafe'. far far from home | 12:12 |
| Migs-se | and Kubuntu is now formatting my drives | 12:13 |
| Migs-se | *prays for good luck* | 12:13 |
| Norgur | stop praying | 12:13 |
| Norgur | this never helped for me :P | 12:13 |
| Migs-se | LOL! | 12:15 |
| Eicca | Is there any playstation emulators for kubuntu? | 12:15 |
| Migs-se | just curious, but where are you based pag? | 12:16 |
| Norgur | Eicca, jes there is | 12:16 |
| Migs-se | Eicca: Ah! thanks for reminding me | 12:16 |
| Norgur | in repos: pcsx | 12:16 |
| pag | Migs-se, you mean, which country am I from? I currently live in Finland.. | 12:16 |
| Migs-se | yep, was refering to country. | 12:16 |
| Migs-se | I Hail from South Africa though | 12:17 |
| Norgur | ^^ | 12:17 |
| Norgur | <---Germany :P | 12:17 |
| Migs-se | you poor bastards, heh | 12:17 |
| Migs-se | I despise the cold | 12:17 |
| Norgur | well | 12:17 |
| Norgur | isnt cold at all | 12:17 |
| Norgur | 15 Degrees Celsius ;) | 12:18 |
| Migs-se | thats cold, heh | 12:18 |
| Migs-se | snow is over-rated | 12:19 |
| Norgur | i never mind | 12:19 |
| Norgur | no^^ | 12:19 |
| Migs-se | currently 21 degrees celcious over here | 12:19 |
| Norgur | exactly noone rates this very high at all | 12:19 |
| * oliver3 stares at Dolphin in Kubuntu | 12:20 |
| kiiz | pag: do i also have to download links with red bottons | 12:21 |
| oliver3 | I thought Dolphin wasn't going to be the file manager until KDE4? | 12:21 |
| pag | !dolphin | oliver3 | 12:21 |
| ubotu | oliver3: Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin. | 12:21 |
| oliver3 | <_< | 12:21 |
| oliver3 | But why? xD | 12:22 |
| pag | kiiz, I'm not sure if default installation has them already... but it might be a good idea to download them just to be sure | 12:22 |
| llutz | oliver3: users wished | 12:22 |
| oliver3 | Fair enough. | 12:22 |
| oliver3 | I've just noticed, in Dolphin, on the right there is a little menu. | 12:22 |
| oliver3 | It's there twice. | 12:22 |
| oliver3 | O.o | 12:22 |
| === ^kaminix^ is now known as kaminix |
| oliver3 | I think I'll stick with Ubuntu as my main OS for now. | 12:24 |
| oliver3 | Can't be doing will silly bugs like that. >_> | 12:24 |
| * oliver3 sticks his nose up pompously. | 12:24 |
| oliver3 | :P | 12:24 |
| === desti_T2 is now known as desti |
| === Hirvinen_ is now known as Hirvinen |
| Linux_Galore | oliver3: dolphin is not finished and I was surprised they set it as the default, I just swap it back to konqueror | 12:33 |
| Linux_Galore | if you really want to have fun try getting a network scanner working in kubuntu, I gave up and wrote my own program | 12:35 |
| oliver3 | xD | 12:36 |
| oliver3 | Oh my :x | 12:37 |
| Migs-se | Okay, another question :) | 12:39 |
| Migs-se | what is the difference between Ati Radeon(fbdev) - Ati Radeon(fglrx) and Ati Radeon(vesa)? | 12:39 |
| Migs-se | I'm using a Ati Radeon 9250 AGP | 12:39 |
| Migs-se | there is one that simply says Ati Radeon though | 12:40 |
| ricanelite | okay, currently right now im using the Gnome desktop, Is it possible that I could have Gnome and Kubuntu because im curious in trying out the KDE Desktop. But I do NOT want to messup my Gnome desktop and its files. Is it possible? If so what is the best way I getting it installing and running? | 12:40 |
| pag | Migs-se, fbdec is an open ati driver iirc, vesa is generic driver and fglrx is closed-source ati driver. | 12:41 |
| oliver3 | Migs-se, fglrx is the official driver, but I think it's proprietary. vesa is a generic driver and fbdev I'm not sure about. | 12:42 |
| oliver3 | ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop | 12:42 |
| pag | ricanelite, install kubuntu-desktop and use it with another user - it shouldn't affect your user settings at all that way (iirc it won't affect them even if you run with the same user, but if you want to be 120% sure..:) | 12:42 |
| Migs-se | hmmm, so which driver do you guys recommend I use? | 12:42 |
| Migs-se | or try each one until I get tv-out? heh | 12:43 |
| oliver3 | Migs-se, if fglrx wasn't proprietary I would recommend that. | 12:43 |
| oliver3 | But seeing as it is, I can't |
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