/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/12/14/#kubuntu.txt

kub^	BluesKaj are there any other clients for burning i can use ?	00:04
BluesKaj	k9copy	00:04
BluesKaj	or kiso	00:05
vzduch	burning what?	00:05
kub^	thank you :)	00:05
kub^	dvd isos	00:05
Daisuke_Ido	gnomebaker!	00:06
BluesKaj	kub^, you'll prolly have to DL those apps	00:06
Daisuke_Ido	>_>	00:06
vzduch	if you have an ISO you can burn it w/ any burning program	00:06
Daisuke_Ido	if k3b won't burn it, the others won't either	00:06
BluesKaj	his k3b is not doing the job	00:06
Daisuke_Ido	they all use the same backend, i think	00:06
kub^	my k3b freezes the pc requiring a hard reset even when i only look at the further actions menu with a blank dvd in	00:07
vzduch	if there is no limitation built into growisofs preventing you from burning DL DVDs, it shouldn't be a problem	00:07
BluesKaj	growisofs is the actual app that most use	00:08
kub^	when k3b works thats what it uses yeah, maybe i should just use growisofs from the command line	00:09
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vzduch	does that same DVD recorder work in other OSes (e.g. Windoze)?	00:10
vzduch	probably a hardware problem if it freezes on popping in a blank DVD	00:10
kub^	it seems to work 1 out of say 4 goes, kinda hoping it isnt hardware >.< i'll try another client first :)	00:11
vzduch	it might already help to just open the case and make sure that all cables are properly connected	00:12
kub^	yeah good idea	00:13
BluesKaj	kub^, does nero or whatever client you use work in windows ?	00:14
kub^	yeah with no problems	00:14
hitmanWilly	hmmm, might be an issue with automounting then	00:15
sub[t]rnl	automounting? his fstab?	00:16
hitmanWilly	or dbus/hal	00:17
sub[t]rnl	yeah I guess growisofs wont be able to burn a mounted DVD.	00:17
hitmanWilly	he said that it freezes when he just sticks the dvd in	00:17
sub[t]rnl	kub^: make sure noauto is in your fstab for you burning rom	00:17
kub^	ok sec	00:17
kub^	is that /etc/fstab coz i dont see a line noauto	00:18
kub^	?	00:18
sub[t]rnl	yeah	00:18
* BluesKaj studies growisofs man pages ...seems simple enuff ...the examples are clear		00:18
sub[t]rnl	still, theres a pitfall if his fstab is auto mounting the dvd's	00:19
sub[t]rnl	won't be able to burn	00:19
kub^	when i pop a dvd in a window pops up asking me if i want to open it in k3b	00:19
hitmanWilly	just cancel that out	00:20
sub[t]rnl	kub^: show me the line in fstab for your dvdrom	00:20
hitmanWilly	assuming you want to use growisofs	00:21
sub[t]rnl	right	00:21
kub^	apologies i missed it it does have no auto "/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec 0 0"	00:21
sub[t]rnl	noauto is in there	00:21
sub[t]rnl	then thats not the problem	00:21
n1ghtm4r3	!beryl	00:22
ubotu	Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion. New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz	00:22
n1ghtm4r3	!compiz	00:23
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	00:23
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bascule_	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sshbHTDSwCk	00:28
bascule_	funny	00:28
stdin	!offtopic \| bascule_	00:30
ubotu	bascule_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	00:30
bascule_	fair enough, but still funny :P	00:30
n1ghtm4r3	!compiz	00:42
ubotu	Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion	00:42
kub^	ok guys just wrote a 4.4gb img file to dvd from the command line with growisofs with zero problems	00:44
kub^	i'll continue with the command line, thanks for all your input :)	00:45
carlos_	hola	00:46
NickPresta	!es \| carlos_	00:47
ubotu	carlos_: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.	00:47
Antoine	hi	00:48
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somekool	!ja	01:04
ubotu	日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい	01:04
somekool	!jp	01:04
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BluesKaj	kub^, yes the CLI is nice to use , i like the "tovid" app for doing avi transcodes to dvd . It works very nicely .	01:08
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huibuh	hi, can anybody help me to install kde4	01:21
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* BluesKaj watches everyone recede into the darkness :)		01:23
blizzzek	bye	01:23
kantlivelong	hey all	01:35
kantlivelong	is there a vnc server on the default ubuntu install?	01:35
BluesKaj	no	01:36
dmcglone	#kubuntu-offtopic	01:56
* genii sips		01:57
K`zan	Should ksoftirqd/1 be taking up 15% of one cpu rather continuously ?	01:58
user_	hi all. I installed Nero Linux, and everything went fine. However, when it scans for supported devices, it reports that it can't get access to /dev/sg0... how do I permanently allow access? Many thanks!	01:58
etfb	K`zan: 15% isn't that much, is it?	01:59
K`zan	out of 200% (both CPUs) no, not really, just never noticed it before.	01:59
nosrednaekim	user_: well, "sudo chmod a+w /dev/sg0" should do it.	01:59
K`zan	Nice thing about linux, you are always learning something new :-).	01:59
user_	nosredaekim: i shall try. on the forums, people were saying edit this file, comment this or that, but i thought there would be a simpler answer :)	02:00
nosrednaekim	K`zan: thats the kernel interrupt I think....	02:00
etfb	K`lan: often while dogpaddling frantically around a whirlpool...	02:00
K`zan	LOL, that is TOO TRUE LOL!	02:00
K`zan	Just converted back to kubuntu after a foray into fedora (ewwww!).	02:01
etfb	K`zan: what was it like? I last tried it when it was Red Hat, MANY years ago.	02:01
K`zan	This version (7.10) seems to like my USB devices :).	02:01
K`zan	Fedora is **NOT* our red hat of yesteryear :).	02:01
user_	nosrednaekim: do i have to reboot for that change to take effect? i restarted nero, and got the same message :/	02:01
K`zan	etfb: I upgraded it and broke a lot of things, I suppose I should have known better... Managed to kluge fixes to get it going but I just am NOT a fan of RPMs.	02:02
K`zan	Deb is the best :).	02:02
K`zan	Deb / deb derived is the best :).	02:02
etfb	K`zan: that's my experience too.	02:02
nosrednaekim	user_: nope,no need to restart	02:03
K`zan	Now if I can remember what my CUPS net work printer URL is, I'll be set :).	02:03
K`zan	Do that so seldom that I forget it and have never figured out where CUPS keeps that info.	02:04
K`zan	cd cups	02:04
user_	nosrednaekim: hmmm... that didn't work then. how do i load the sg module?	02:05
nosrednaekim	user_: the what?	02:05
nosrednaekim	user_: try running nero as root	02:05
user_	k hang on	02:06
user_	nosrednaekim: Ok _that_ works.... now i'm confused!	02:07
user_	would chown dwflo:dwflo /dev/sg0 work?	02:07
nosrednaekim	user_: i'm not sure, but there is really no harm in running it as root, in fact its slightly better	02:08
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user_	nosrednaekim: is there a way to do it automatically, or will i have to open a terminal and "sudo nero"? (not that it's a lot of work, but...)	02:08
bmk789	what does a grub read error mean? it just started after i switched my motherboard	02:09
bmk789	user_: you could create a shortcut to run "kdesu nero"	02:09
user_	bmk789: how do i do that?	02:09
bmk789	user_: right click your desktop and create new link to application	02:10
user_	ok	02:10
user_	i've done _that_ before	02:10
genii	bmk789: make sure hd is plugged into identical channel eg: primary or secondary if IDE also that head/sectors/cylinder mapping is same	02:10
bmk789	genii: everythings plugged in the same	02:11
nosrednaekim	user_: make an icon whose command is "kdesudo nero"	02:11
user_	ok	02:11
pastry	can someone please help me step by step on how to share a folder so that my windows pc can see it? i can see the shared folder from windows but its inaccessible. in the add/edit share window in kubuntu, all unspecified users is set to allow, and the only specified user is root, which has admin access rights. but i cannot access the folder from windows, though i do see it	02:11
genii	bmk789: Then likely bios maps the drive differently than the previous one did	02:12
etfb	user_: he meant kdesu nero, not kdesudo...	02:12
user_	aha! "sudo chown username:username /dev/sg0" also works!	02:12
etfb	user_: sounds like a Japanese anime, doesn't it!	02:12
nosrednaekim	etfb: actually,I meant kdesudo	02:12
user_	you guys are right, i'm sure!	02:12
bmk789	genii: the /dev files are the same as before	02:12
user_	aren't they the same?	02:12
etfb	nosrednaekim: really? Sorry! What's the difference?	02:12
genii	bmk789: /dev files have nothing to do with how bios sees the geometry of the drive	02:13
nosrednaekim	!kdesudo \| etfb	02:13
ubotu	etfb: In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)	02:13
user_	can i use them interchangably?	02:13
user_	kdesu is definitely a faster type	02:14
etfb	nosrednaekim: foo! You learn something new every nanosecond round here. I'll have to go look up the history behind that.	02:14
nosrednaekim	user_: I think in gutsy, kdesu is juct linked to kdesudo	02:14
user_	gotcha. i just learned something today (well, a couple things). Thanks guys	02:14
K`zan	anyone know where cups stores remote printers, it is not in /etc/cups/printers.conf no matter what they say :-).	02:15
genii	bios = motherboard hardware	02:15
K`zan	Only thing there is my local printer.	02:15
user_	alright, I'm off to burn libraries of data. Thanks all!	02:15
dmcglone	cups don't store network printers	02:15
dmcglone	unless you use the web interface	02:15
flaccid	store?	02:16
genii	!ping	02:16
ubotu	pong	02:16
genii	just checking	02:16
user_	aw crap, i'm back	02:16
K`zan	dmcglone: Then how does it know about the network printer after reboots, it has GOT to be someplace...	02:16
etfb	genii: ever get the feeling the people who designed IRC had too much time on their hands?	02:16
genii	etfb: Sometimes, yes	02:17
user_	now, when i insert a disc, i get two windows that open, asking what to do with it.	02:17
K`zan	Cups is SO frustrating...	02:17
etfb	genii: ah well, in contrast I don't have time, so since I've finished my lunch break, I'd better go back to work...	02:17
user_	i had this before, and i always got an "unmounting error" whenever i tried to eject the disc. How do i fix this one?	02:17
genii	etfb: Enjoy! ;)	02:18
nosrednaekim	user_: try "sudo eject /dev/sg0"	02:18
user_	nosrednaekim: yes, that will eject the disc, but how do i stop two instances of mounting the disc in the first place?	02:18
nosrednaekim	user_: oh..	02:19
user_	in the windows that pop up, the disc is blue, and in the other window, the disc is golden... what the heck?	02:19
nosrednaekim	user_: ah... its cause you are running nero as root, so the root "user" tries to mount it as well	02:19
crush_groove	user ./do you have a disc in the cd tray ?	02:20
BluesKaj	K`zan, check /var/run/cups/cups.sock	02:20
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user_	nosrednaekim: this is happening without even opening nero	02:21
nosrednaekim	user_: oh.. you probably have another app open as root.its a known bug	02:22
user_	screenshot ----> http://legalcondom.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/ac/ac1963e70f0baa58da355b640020125366a85bad.png	02:22
crush_groove	user_ . take the cd out of the tray .. Kubuntu will mount any cd dvd ddr ect that has a cd in it .	02:22
user_	sorry about the urlname... i uploaded to waffleimages.com XD	02:22
crush_groove	*cdr	02:23
user_	crush_groove: ok, but how do i stop the two separate instances of mounting?	02:23
crush_groove	take 1 of the cds out	02:24
nosrednaekim	user_: see, note one icon is different?	02:25
user_	crush_groove: i only have one cd - only one drive	02:25
user_	am i not understanding ?:	02:25
crush_groove	see the box at the bottome that says what do you want to do next time ?	02:25
user_	the "configure" button?	02:25
nosrednaekim	crush_groove: umm I don't think you see whats going on here	02:26
crush_groove	gotcha mike	02:26
crush_groove	Ill back out	02:26
user_	nosrednaekim: so do you know how to fix this?	02:26
nosrednaekim	user_: did you notice that the icons are different?	02:26
user_	yes	02:26
user_	when i first installed gutsy, this happened, but stopped when i removed Dolphin. But know i have no idea what to do	02:27
nosrednaekim	on if them is the default icon scheme for you, the other is the system default..... its a KDEsudo bug for sure, and I think the creator of kdesudo is already working on it	02:28
user_	*now	02:28
user_	so i just gotta wait, then, eh?	02:28
nosrednaekim	user_: basically, yes... but when one of those dialogs pop up, select the menu which has the "silvery" looking icon	02:28
user_	what if i used the default icon scheme... then this problem wouldn't happen?	02:29
nosrednaekim	user_: it would, but you couldn't tell the dialogs apart, so you'd be worse off	02:29
user_	ugh.	02:29
user_	ok then. thanks for the help once again!	02:29
mico	heyheyhey	02:30
mico	Soooo.... How about that Leopard?	02:33
crush_groove	Leopard ? mac ?	02:35
bassmac	so, ubuntu releases come out usually after new version of gnome...but what about kubuntu and new versions of kde?	02:35
user_	nosrednaekim: ok, last time i'll be here tonight :) I think I learned something else new from you	02:35
BluesKaj	kde4 will be out in jan	02:35
nosrednaekim	bassmac: when it happens, it happens, and ussually you can always get the newest relelase of KDE from backports	02:35
mico	Yes! Whoa! Proof of life! ... I'm not alone here :)	02:35
nosrednaekim	user_: which is...	02:36
bassmac	nosrednaekim, but will it 'just work' or will I have to change things to use it	02:36
nosrednaekim	bassmac: yeah... it'll just work	02:36
bassmac	good, cause I don't mind fiddling around, but I know people who don't	02:36
BluesKaj	nosrednaekim, we hope .....	02:36
user_	nosrednaekim: it turns out i had two instances of konqueror running in the background when i was inserting the disc (i only found out when i rebooted, and on startup, i had to give superuser password). I killed the instances, inserted the disc, and poof - only one window opened!	02:36
nosrednaekim	user_: there you go... one of those konquerors was probably running as root	02:37
user_	yup!	02:37
K`zan	I hate cups...	02:37
user_	you were right yet again	02:37
user_	bows down	02:37
user_	thanks	02:37
nosrednaekim	lol	02:37
user_	ok, just wanted to tell you that.	02:37
crush_groove	;)	02:37
user_	gnite	02:37
nosrednaekim	night..	02:37
BluesKaj	K`zan, what's the trouble with cups ?	02:38
K`zan	BluesKaj: Just changed distros (to kubuntu) and couldn't remember the URL for the printer and can't find it...	02:38
mico	Kubuntu & ark... Right click a file, choose "extract here", then do the same on another file, when the first one completes, the otherone stops tooo, leaving U with the otherone broken.... :-(	02:39
K`zan	BluesKaj: Copied the printcap over from the old distro and it works, but the web interface does not report it right, but it works.	02:39
K`zan	Did I mention I hate cups :-).	02:39
maduser	cups.....	02:40
BluesKaj	K`zan, just run the wizard again with the network printer and pc it's connected to , turned on.	02:40
K`zan	The web interface thinks the url is "/dev/nul" but it works :-).	02:40
mico	Poll! Anyone who does NOT hate CUPS raise ha hand!	02:40
K`zan	BluesKaj: Did that, didn't find the printer....	02:40
K`zan	Offered me a pdf printer :)	02:40
K`zan	(to file)	02:40
BluesKaj	K`zan, sign on as 'guest"? in the wizard	02:42
mico	W-O-W, suddenly a lot of ppl leave....	02:42
BluesKaj	as set the driver before printing a test page	02:42
mico	... do I smell bad?	02:43
BluesKaj	did you have a sauna , mico ...then you should be ok :)	02:44
* crush_groove sprays mico with febreeze		02:44
mico	Hehe, indeedie doodie	02:44
mico	Hehe	02:44
mico	Soooo.... Mmmm.... About them lepperds :-p	02:45
mico	I have this problem with Windows Vista... It nags all the time, about everything....	02:47
nosrednaekim	mico: please quit spamming	02:47
mico	ok..	02:47
mico	Any topics I can rant about?	02:48
hdevalence	mico: try #windows	02:48
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mico	Ouch.. That hurt....	02:48
pastry	how do i make it so that file browsers such as dolphin or konqueror can read east asian fonts such as japanese? im on a fresh install and all i see are question marks where its supposed to be japanese font as file names	02:50
pastry	so i cant copy the files	02:50
Ahmuck	language	02:50
pastry	i need it to read the font	02:50
Ahmuck	your language settings	02:50
Teixen	Hi! can anyone tell me how to open rpm files?	02:50
Ahmuck	K-Menu --> System Settings	02:51
Ahmuck	Regional and Language, and add japanese	02:51
nosrednaekim	!rpm \| Teixen	02:51
cheguevara	sudo apt-get install rpm	02:51
ubotu	Teixen: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	02:51
Teixen	thanks!!	02:51
Ahmuck	isnt there another program that deals with rpms as well for debain?	02:52
mico	Anyone having more than two displays?	02:52
Ahmuck	mico: sup ?	02:52
Ahmuck	what's your question	02:52
Ahmuck	!gwenview	02:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gwenview - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	02:52
mico	Yo, ahmuck! Nutting much. Tried to get three displays working on Kubuntu, but...	02:54
Ahmuck	is there a way to check apt packages that have been downloaded against md5 sums in a batch?	02:55
Ahmuck	like a md5 server apt package integrity checker	02:55
crimsun	debsums.	02:56
Ahmuck	thx	02:56
maduser	you i got some kind of fatal error and now i have no sound	02:57
maduser	i mean yo	02:58
mico	Sometimes I just get that sinkin feeling, when I read Linux manuals, that I'm not being told about all the important bits....	02:58
Ahmuck	mico, well, yes, sometimes that is true	02:59
Ahmuck	linux can be lean on documentation	02:59
mico	Though, even how hard it is to sometimes get things done, when it's done, it keeps on going.	03:01
mico	"some systems" just keep making trouble :)	03:01
mico	...even after they're fixed :-p	03:02
mico	... and I think it would be possible to get three displays if I'd splash out n a couple of matrox cards...	03:04
mico	BUT! They "just work" when I boot to "that othar operating system"	03:05
limac	!kate	03:09
ubotu	Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) \| Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). \| HTML/CSS editors: !html \| Programming: !code	03:09
limac	!code	03:09
ubotu	Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida	03:09
crush_groove	erm pico is in kde too	03:09
limac	!kdevelop	03:10
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	03:10
limac	whats pico?	03:10
bazhang	!info pico	03:10
ubotu	Package pico does not exist in gutsy	03:10
crush_groove	a nice ( for me) term editor	03:10
crush_groove	looks again	03:10
crush_groove	aha	03:11
crush_groove	/pico foo brings up nano	03:11
mico	Question: When three gfx cards work in a "insert swearword here"-system, what can one in theory do to make them work in Ubuntu?	03:11
crush_groove	no clue ./. not a hardware guy	03:12
mico	(tried writing a nice bunch of xorg.conf files... knew them by heart at the end :( )	03:13
SavageOne	hey folks	03:14
SavageOne	when I run rsync -t . linuxmce@192.168.80.1:/home/public/data/videos/ it's doing what I want in terms of pushing my local directory to that remote server, but it's ignoring the local subfolders and sub sub folders, only copying files on the root of that directory	03:14
SavageOne	what other switches to I need?	03:14
SavageOne	the man rsync isn't helping I've read it all	03:14
nosrednaekim	SavageOne: probably like -r or -R for recursive	03:14
crush_groove	did you man rsync?	03:15
SavageOne	-r is for recursive, so I did	03:15
SavageOne	--checksum-seed=NUM set block/file checksum seed	03:15
SavageOne	-4, --ipv4 prefer IPv4	03:15
SavageOne	-6, --ipv6 prefer IPv6	03:15
SavageOne	-h, --help show this help screen	03:15
SavageOne	Please see the rsync(1) and rsyncd.conf(5) man pages for full documentation	03:15
SavageOne	See http://rsync.samba.org/ for updates, bug reports, and answers	03:15
SavageOne	rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1073)	03:15
capricori	its -r for recursive	03:15
SavageOne	root@mythtv:/myth/video# rsync -av . linuxmce@192.168.80.1:/home/public/data/videos/	03:15
SavageOne	linuxmce@192.168.80.1's password:	03:15
SavageOne	building file list ... done	03:16
SavageOne	sent 146 bytes received 20 bytes 66.40 bytes/sec	03:16
SavageOne	total size is 478218412 speedup is 2880833.81	03:16
SavageOne	woops sorry guys	03:16
SavageOne	my bad	03:16
SavageOne	yeah I was using -trv	03:16
mico	Thanks crush, (for hearing)	03:16
SavageOne	so I'd get the time, the recursion, and the verbosity	03:16
mico	I'll make sure to do a good & findable howto if I ever get it working	03:16
jrsims	need some help getting dual monitor support with my laptop	03:19
jrsims	how should I go about this? I have my laptop on and my monitor plugged into my video out port.	03:19
yabadaba	neither knetworkmanager nor gnomenetworkmanager applets show available wireless networks but i can see them via system/admin/network/wireless applet. would anyone know why this might be happening? it sounds like either a permissions issue or like the applets aren't able to talk to the device in some other way ... anyone have suggestions for fixing this?	03:19
nosrednaekim	yabadaba: dbus issue.	03:19
mico	jrsims: ati?	03:20
yabadaba	ding, thats what i was looking for thanks!	03:20
yabadaba	googling the rest, appreciate athat	03:20
jrsims	mico: no	03:20
crush_groove	SavageOne u usin 3.0?	03:20
jrsims	mico: but not sure of the maker	03:20
nosrednaekim	yabadaba: try a "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"	03:20
SavageOne	crush: yes	03:20
pastry	is there a better volume control program than kmix? or is kmix the best? i cant find an option anywhere so i can set my sound output to 4.0	03:21
capricori	yabadaba: let me know if that fixes it, I had the same issue, couldn't find an answer	03:21
mico	jrsims: Tell more.. Works with "another" operating system?	03:22
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crush_groove	http://samba.anu.edu.au/ftp/rsync/rsync-3.0.0pre6-NEWS << has some remarks on -r	03:22
jrsims	Ok, so I went into my monitor and display settings and I get this error: "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded".	03:23
jrsims	How do I fix this? I cannot touch any settings.	03:23
mico	jrsims: And, looking for cloning or a separate display	03:23
jhutchins	pastry: Your mixer selections are pretty much determined by the hardware.	03:23
jrsims	mico: do you know what is up with my last issue here?	03:23
jrsims	mico: not being able to adjust my monitor and display settings in Administrator mode?	03:24
jhutchins	All kmix or alsamixer do is provide a GUI to change the settings.	03:24
* jhutchins is not sure just what "set my sound output to 4.0" means, but suspects it's an output mode.		03:25
mico	jrsims: Well, no... I dont know jack shit about your system :)	03:25
jrsims	mico: it's saying "Possible reasons: An Error occurred during your last KDE upgrade leaving an orphaned control module OR You have old third party modules lying around." This is stupid because this is a fresh install with updates applied.	03:26
jrsims	mico: know how I could reinstall the said modules?	03:26
nosrednaekim	jrsims: try running "kcmshell displayconfig"	03:28
mico	jrsims: something other than displaythings have gone seriously awry...	03:28
jrsims	nosrednaekim: ok, now what?	03:29
nosrednaekim	jrsims: did that work?	03:29
jrsims	nosrednaekim: got a window that said I needed to be in Admin mode to do anything. so I switched to that mode and got "The module Monitor & Display could not be loaded"	03:30
jrsims	so same story	03:30
nosrednaekim	jrsims: try "kdesudo kcmshell displayconfig"	03:30
jrsims	(kde seems really fragile)	03:30
jrsims	k	03:30
jrsims	nosrednaekim: same exact thing.	03:31
nosrednaekim	jrsims: yech. are you running XGL?	03:32
jrsims	no	03:32
mico	jrsims: kde is a bit "fragile"... But seems like something was missing in the install..... Checksummed the install-cd?	03:32
jrsims	should I reinstall KDE over apt?	03:32
nosrednaekim	jrsims: are you sure you're not? do you even have it installed?	03:33
jrsims	mico: no, I didn't checksum. After install, it was fine. Just now it isn't.	03:33
jrsims	nosrednaekim: absolutely positive. I did not install that.	03:33
mico	nosrednaekim: Could possibly missing/broken parts be fixed by reinstalling with apt?	03:34
nosrednaekim	jrsims: hmm k...	03:34
nosrednaekim	jrsims: is this a ubuntu install or a fresh kubuntu?	03:34
jrsims	nosrednaekim: it's a pretty fresh kubuntu with updates applied.	03:34
nosrednaekim	jrsims: humm.	03:34
jrsims	and like I said, I was able to get into this part of KDE before. Not now though.	03:35
mico	jrsims: did thing work BEFORE the update?	03:35
jrsims	yes	03:35
jrsims	The problem started when I went to use the dual display settings.	03:35
jrsims	then crapped out.	03:35
jrsims	I am just running on a thinkpad	03:36
jrsims	no weird hardware	03:36
jrsims	intel gma	03:36
mico	jrsims: All PC's are weird hardware... :)	03:36
nosrednaekim	odd, did that kcmshell spit out any errors to the konsole?	03:36
mico	jrsims: Did you "fiddle" with the system earlier?, before the upgrade?	03:38
jrsims	mico: installed some packages like irssi, nmap, etc.	03:38
jrsims	would reinstalling KDE help? or is there a way to revert to default video settings and start over?	03:39
mico	jrsims: me not know jack s*t	03:40
mico	jrsims: Hey! Ati & laptop... What happens if the secondary display is ON and connected when You cold boot the machine?	03:41
jrsims	mico: I lose the bottom and right sides of the display. it runs at a higher rez but my laptop screen only displays 1280x800 of it.	03:44
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mico	jrsims: Kinky & clueless...	03:45
mico	jrsims: primary or secondary displayu?	03:46
crush_groove	bbiab	03:46
jrsims	mico: does it matter?	03:46
mico	jrsims: yes	03:47
devolic	What's the most favored build among everyone?	03:47
mico	devolic: each, for thos who built	03:47
jrsims	mico: my attached monitor is still blank, but then my laptop has the cropped picture.	03:48
mico	jrsims: what did you do to acchieve that? ... Which steps did you take, what do you have & what do you wnat	03:50
mico	jrsims: thinkpad? what model? What chip eats your muffin? How can you be cured?	03:51
jrsims	doesn't sound like anyone in here can help me. Just going to reinstall kde and pray.	03:52
mico	jsims: Who fucked the graphic-cip that should show you the world(+s)	03:52
stdin	!language \| mico	03:52
ubotu	mico: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	03:52
twylight	WHAT	03:52
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mico	jrsims: googling similar problems night help (bows down head in shame)	03:53
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mico	bang.... bang... Bang....	03:56
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* oobe is now known as poofucker		04:05
grul	!python	04:06
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	04:06
grul	!apache	04:06
ubotu	LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	04:06
Voyage__	any one using virtual box? how to share folders in a winodws xp ?	04:08
mico	!life	04:10
ubotu	life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic	04:10
mico	!channels	04:11
ubotu	A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines	04:11
Voyage__	anyhelp pls?	04:13
twylight	nuu ^_^	04:15
snakattak	how can I chose the installer to install on a Raid0 device? /dev/md0, etc...	04:15
bazhang	Voyage__: ask in #vbox	04:15
Voyage__	how to kill a proces run by root	04:18
ardchoille	sudo kill <process>	04:18
Voyage__	k	04:21
Voyage__	ardchoille sudo kill dolphin ?	04:22
abdulla	my gnome desktop http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/5/12/13/f_mydesktopm_81765b4.png&srv=img33	04:23
ardchoille	Voyage__: this should work: sudo kill $(pidof d3lphin)	04:24
Voyage__	ardchoille how do i know the pid of it	04:25
ardchoille	Voyage__: You don't need to worry about it, it's like saying "sudo kill $(find the pid of d3lphin)"	04:26
Voyage__	not working	04:26
ardchoille	Voyage__: pidof d3lphin	04:27
Voyage__	its dolphin. not d3lphin	04:27
ardchoille	Voyage__: /usr/bin/dolphin: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/d3lphin' It's a symlink ;)	04:28
ardchoille	Voyage__: ok: sudo kill $(pidof dolphin)	04:28
stuffcorpse	sudo pkill dolphin?	04:29
Neville	Would somebody here be able to tell me how to set a partition as my swap partition?	04:29
Neville	I already have it set to Linux Swap, but it's not being recognised as of yet	04:29
Voyage__	k	04:30
Voyage__	sudo kill $(pidof dolphin) woked	04:30
sub[t]rnl	Neville: how do you mean, it isn't being recognized?	04:30
sub[t]rnl	Neville: it doesn't show up in sudo fdisk -l	04:31
Neville	It shows up in there, what I mean is how to I get it to be used?	04:31
ardchoille	Voyage__: That's strange because when I run dolphin and do "pidof dolphin" nothing is returned. However, a pid is returned when I do "pidof d3lphin"	04:31
sub[t]rnl	Neville: it will be used when your physical ram is full, as a backup	04:31
Voyage__	i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting... how can do it?	04:32
Neville	No, because it's not appearing in Kinfocentre	04:32
Neville	It says Swap Partition Not available	04:32
Neville	It's because I had to do a frankensteins monster of sorts to my hard drives, in order to keep alot of data that I can't replace anytime soon	04:33
Neville	And that meant lots of messy cutting and pasting of partitions, not to mention fiddling with Grub alot	04:34
Voyage__	so that not even a virus can effect my linux of data?	04:34
snakattak	is dmraid or mdadm preffered for installation? Can you alternate between the 2 programs?	04:34
ardchoille	Voyage__: You don't have to worry about viruses in Linux: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/10/06/linux_vs_windows_viruses/	04:34
snakattak	is there a better place to help me with raid questions?	04:35
Neville	-_-v	04:35
Neville	Nevermind	04:35
Neville	I'll work it out on my own	04:36
Neville	Thanks anyway	04:36
Voyage__	i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......	04:37
twylight	eldfh	04:40
Voyage__	i dont care about the system........ i care about data. drives mounted......eg. a friend of mine, a virus can do any things what a user logged in can do.......for that i want to increase security of my folders. i want any users to only be able to view its contents. a password should be asked every time if modifing or deleting... how can do it?	04:42
Jyzygzel-	doesn	04:44
Jyzygzel-	doesn't ubuntu come with NTFS-3g	04:44
ardchoille	Voyage__: A Linux system is too hostile an environment for a virus to thrive and propogate. Any downloaded file must be made executable before it can even run, and then, without admi provs, can't do any damage to anything outside of $HOME.	04:44
sub[t]rnl	Jyzygzel-: don't think so, hafta apt it	04:44
Jyzygzel-	there is no package for it	04:45
Jyzygzel-	sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g	04:45
Jyzygzel-	not found	04:45
grul	Voyage__, just chown everything to root :p but i don't think it's a good idea, because programs that need the files won't be able to use them	04:45
ubuntu_	i was installing kubuntu	04:46
sub[t]rnl	Jyzygzel-: might have to enable multiverse repo's	04:46
ubuntu_	and my computer retsrtaed	04:46
sub[t]rnl	!repos	04:46
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	04:46
Jyzygzel-	oh	04:46
Jyzygzel-	ok	04:46
ubuntu_	any pointers?	04:46
ardchoille	!info ntfs-3g feisty	04:46
ubotu	ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.328-1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB	04:46
Jyzygzel-	added universe and still nothing	04:46
Jyzygzel-	multiverse then	04:46
ardchoille	Jyzygzel-: did you update your sources after adding?	04:47
sub[t]rnl	sudo apt-get update	04:47
ardchoille	Jyzygzel-: sudo apt-get update	04:47
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu_: did the install finish?	04:47
Voyage__	grul i only need that for mounted data drives.... no apps concerned.. how can i do it?	04:47
ubuntu_	naw	04:47
ubuntu_	it was done	04:47
Jyzygzel-	umm why doesn't that document tell the address??	04:47
Jyzygzel-	for the multiverse	04:47
ubuntu_	well it was yp to the poitn were it was configuring	04:47
ubuntu_	up*	04:47
Jyzygzel-	hmm wait a minute i have both multi and universe installed	04:48
Jyzygzel-	deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse	04:48
Jyzygzel-	deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse	04:48
ardchoille	!info ntfs-3g dapper	04:48
ubotu	Package ntfs-3g does not exist in dapper	04:48
ardchoille	Jyzygzel-: ^^	04:48
Jyzygzel-	how do i get better	04:48
ardchoille	!upgrade \| Jyzygzel-	04:49
ubotu	Jyzygzel-: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes	04:49
mico	There's no nazier system than the irc	04:49
ubuntu_	how	04:49
ubuntu_	do i resume installation	04:49
ubuntu_	É	04:49
Jyzygzel-	wow im running old	04:49
mico	:)	04:50
Jyzygzel-	no wonder my ATI card doesn't work	04:50
sub[t]rnl	hrm, try sudo dpkg --configure -a	04:50
ubuntu_	how do i get thatÉ	04:50
ubuntu_	run commandÉ	04:50
sub[t]rnl	alt+f2 and type "konsole", then type that in the konsole	04:50
Jyzygzel-	ewww i have to restart between updates ;(	04:51
Jyzygzel-	linus should have made his kernels hotpluggable	04:51
ubuntu_	okay now i type in configure -a	04:51
sub[t]rnl	sudo dpkg --configure -a	04:52
sub[t]rnl	^^	04:52
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu_ was this an upgrade, or a fresh install?	04:52
ubuntu_	well i had windows installed	04:52
ubuntu_	and i did the one were it creates a new harddrive	04:52
ubuntu_	nothing happened i typed it in the window just closed	04:53
sub[t]rnl	since its a fresh install, I would just start over	04:53
ubuntu_	fuck	04:53
ubuntu_	so i have to reformat that shit againÉ	04:54
ubuntu_	i was trying to boot computer without cd and windows doesnt even run now	04:54
sub[t]rnl	watch the language, if you would	04:54
ubuntu_	is that normal if windows doesnt run	04:54
ubuntu_	while installin linux half way É	04:54
sub[t]rnl	you don't have a boot loader installed in your MBR	04:55
ardchoille	!language \| ubuntu_	04:55
ubotu	ubuntu_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	04:55
sub[t]rnl	re-install linux and it will work	04:55
ubuntu_	windows as wellÉ	04:55
sub[t]rnl	!grub \| ubuntu_	04:55
ubotu	ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	04:55
ubuntu_	i have another question	04:55
ubuntu_	how many hard drives are made when installing linuz 2É	04:56
sub[t]rnl	partitions? thats completely up to you. A basic installation would be 1 partition for your root (/) 1 partition for /home, and one for swap space	04:57
ubuntu_	oh okay okay	04:57
ubuntu_	let me try it now	04:57
ubuntu_	so ones gona be éhome	04:57
sub[t]rnl	keep in mind you'll want more space going towards your /home partition	04:57
ubuntu_	so ones called home and others swap	04:58
sub[t]rnl	right, the mount point of one partition will be /home	04:58
sub[t]rnl	ext3 filesystem	04:58
ubuntu_	ye i was lostt, cause i didnt know the difference between home and boot	04:58
ubuntu_	and the other options	04:58
* sub[t]rnl nods		04:58
ubuntu_	nodsÉ	04:58
sub[t]rnl	you might want to read up a little on partitions, and plan out how you want your system laid out	04:59
sub[t]rnl	nothing wrong with thinking ahead	04:59
ubuntu_	alright	05:00
ubuntu_	thanks a mill	05:00
sub[t]rnl	anytime	05:00
twylight	I am so tired	05:00
twylight	it is not even funny	05:00
ubuntu_	do you get paid for thisÉ	05:01
twylight	I wish	05:01
ubuntu_	lolz	05:01
ubuntu_	so you guys help out others out of your own will	05:01
twylight	pretty much	05:01
Lynoure	Not here, but elsewhere I do... this is volunteering.	05:01
ubuntu_	nice	05:01
sub[t]rnl	actually, I have a paypal setup that you must donate too now. since you listened to me	05:01
sub[t]rnl	sorry :/	05:02
twylight	although I have this chatroom and the tech support I do (not too often anymore) on my resume	05:02
ubuntu_	lolz	05:02
sub[t]rnl	lol	05:02
ubuntu_	sure	05:02
ubuntu_	ill give it a second thought	05:02
Dr_willis	You have 'I Irc a lot' on your resume?	05:04
Dr_willis	:)	05:04
twylight	well it's worded as "tech support for unix based systems"	05:05
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twylight	I need to eat and sleep	05:06
twylight	I should set up an IV so I only have to ever do one	05:06
bazhang	put caffeine in the IV	05:07
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Dr_willis	'experienced in digital downloading of adult media' :)	05:07
twylight	arr, I be a computer pirate	05:08
Neville	It's alive.	05:08
Dr_willis	I always end up being tech support for my wife.. for gizmios and programs ive never used befor...	05:08
twylight	I've over ten terabytes of booty locked away in me harddrives	05:08
Dr_willis	Right now she has a new Dig. Camera. and shes asking me 'how do i do this... ' and ive never even HELD the camera befor. :)	05:08
Jyzygzel-	how do i read the USB traffic	05:11
twylight	you don't	05:11
twylight	it reads you	05:11
twylight	oh wait that's chuck norris nvm	05:11
Jyzygzel-	no thats soviet russia edition	05:12
Jyzygzel-	in sovietbuntu devices read you	05:13
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adamonline45	Does anyone know why my system tray icons are all opened as real windows and displayed on my taskbar, instead of in the system tray?	05:16
twylight	are you doing it wrong?	05:16
adamonline45	doing what wrong?	05:17
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Dr_willis	ive seen that happen when kwin crashes , or you are running a window manager other then kwin	05:20
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Oh, hello again! I'm using KDE (kwin) and CF. The weird thing is, you'd think if I just closed them and restart my machine, they'd be back into the system tray. I'm starting to think it's just a setting somewhere, but I've scoured to no avail...	05:22
Dr_willis	CF?	05:23
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Sorry, Compiz Fusion	05:23
Dr_willis	all bets are off with COmpiz. :)	05:24
Dr_willis	who knows what bugs are out there.	05:24
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Hah... Yeah, understandable... So, is that where you'd put your money?	05:25
* adamonline45 waits for kde4		05:25
Dr_willis	disable it and see if it still happens	05:25
adamonline45	Dr_willis: Heh, good thinkin' 8)	05:28
jessie	hello people	05:35
Saagar	Hi	05:35
Saagar	i need to know about multicasting, can anybody help	05:36
jessie	hey, does anybody know if kubuntu 7.10 with kde4 is going to have a diff kernel?	05:37
etfb	Saagar: it's a big topic. Can you narrow down your question a little?	05:37
etfb	jessie: AFAIK, you'll be able to upgrade to KDE4 when it arrives (January?) but it's independent of the kernel upgrades	05:38
Saagar	yes. Whenever I enable multicasting in my ip cam, my LAN gets congested	05:38
jessie	etfb, dang... when is the next kernel update going to be out/	05:38
jessie	?	05:38
Saagar	any guess etfb?	05:38
bazhang	jessie: hardy?	05:39
jessie	dang...	05:39
jessie	thats a while away...	05:39
jessie	back to compliing my own...	05:39
twylight	whenever linus says so	05:39
bazhang	not so, you can install it now :}	05:39
etfb	Saagar: it's well beyond my area of knowledge. What I'd suggest is rephrasing the question with a different focus. A lot of people are lurking here but only glancing this way occasionally. You may catch their eye with different keywords.	05:39
jessie	what? hardy? and i meant if there was going to be a kernel update for kubuntu	05:40
etfb	jessie: new kernels come down the line every couple of months at least. I got ?4 with feisty.	05:40
bazhang	for gutsy?	05:40
jessie	yeah	05:40
etfb	jessie: probably about due for a new one, actually	05:40
twylight	kubuntu = debian = linux = linus torvalds controls the kernel updates	05:40
bazhang	update or new kernel	05:40
jessie	my bad... im a bit tired.... and he does? like, update from 2.6.20-15-generic to .16?	05:41
bazhang	currently 2.6.22.14-generic	05:41
etfb	jessie: that sort of thing comes out when the gods of Ubuntu say. Won't be that long. Why do you want a new kernel?	05:41
twylight	dsfargeg	05:41
Saagar	I enabled the cam to the multicast address 239.244.180.39 . Does it multicast outside my LAN?	05:42
twylight	lol	05:42
jessie	cause... my gateway laptop wont even boot into the one that shipped with gutsy. so i have gutsy everything except the kernel, etfb	05:42
twylight	I love music	05:42
twylight	it makes my life less boring	05:43
Saagar	to my knowledge 239.x.x.x is within the network . right?	05:43
adamonline45	it's not kubuntu = ubuntu = debian etc...?	05:43
twylight	127.0.0.1 <3	05:43
etfb	jessie: yikes! I guess the best thing to do is compile your own kernel. I'm told it's not hard (and it's a rite of passage for Linux g33ks) but I've never done it.	05:43
twylight	no, kubuntu is the same thing as ubuntu with a different UI	05:43
jessie	etfb: just did.... im just talking on msn to a girl i like and dont want to restart... lmao!	05:44
twylight	ubuntu is debian based or debian compatible, not like I care	05:44
adamonline45	Oh, I thought they were distinct distros with their own developers, or what have you	05:44
twylight	I'm going to go smoke a cigarette	05:44
jessie	have fun twylight	05:44
twylight	then wander around aimlessly	05:44
jessie	lol... nice	05:44
twylight	take a few too many sleeping pills	05:44
twylight	and then pass out	05:45
jessie	haha wow...	05:45
twylight	seriously I'm wired	05:45
twylight	and it needs to stop	05:45
etfb	adamonline45: Debian is the parent distro, if you like. Ubuntu is a debian-based distro, but controlled by a company (Shuttleworth's company - starts with C, I'm drawing a blank here...)	05:45
twylight	so I'm going to take like two or six sleeping pills	05:45
jessie	k guys... time to restart	05:45
twylight	;p	05:45
etfb	Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Ubuntu are all just Ubuntu with different windows managers (KDE, XFce and Gnome)	05:45
twylight	exactly	05:46
adamonline45	gotcha	05:46
adamonline45	what's edubuntu?	05:46
twylight	linux is frickin' old though	05:46
t3ch13	I can't get my sound to work in Kubuntu anybody have any ideas where I can start? It's a laptop.	05:46
twylight	edubuntu is ubuntu for schools	05:46
twylight	install a sound card	05:46
adamonline45	ahh, cool, ty	05:46
twylight	drivers	05:46
twylight	reinstall	05:46
etfb	adamonline45: I recommend Wikipedia for this level of question. Edubuntu is a set of packages rolled into a distro focused on use in schools	05:46
twylight	if all else fails	05:46
t3ch13	It has a sound card that works fine in windows	05:46
twylight	pray to the sound card gods	05:47
twylight	offer them some transistors	05:47
Dr_willis	Edubuntu also has some neat features to get a whole lan of pc's net booting off a main server machine	05:47
twylight	if you really want to appease them, sacrifice a new soundblaster card	05:47
twylight	tandy cards will annoy them though	05:48
twylight	THIS IS WHY I SHOULD NOT STAY UP LATE	05:48
adamonline45	lol	05:48
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* oobe is now known as poofucker		05:57
sub[t]rnl	...	05:59
ardchoille	!language \| oobe	05:59
ubotu	oobe: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	05:59
oobe	ok sorry	05:59
* oobe is sorry		05:59
Dr_willis	:)	06:00
Dr_willis	blame it on the cat on the keyboard!	06:00
oobe	yeah tricky cats	06:00
Dr_willis	or a younger brother.. :) they are good for blaming things on!	06:00
oobe	i would be proud to own a cat like that :P	06:01
oobe	or a younger brother for putting cat on keyboard	06:01
oobe	yeah that is the sort of thing i would do as a younger brother	06:01
twylight	I took like 8 sleeping pills	06:01
twylight	pfft no as a yonger brotehr you ahve to piss ont he keyboard	06:02
ardchoille	Ok, let's take the offtopic stuff to another channel please.	06:02
oobe	twylight, do you require techical support operating kubuntu under the influence of a sleeping pill over dose	06:02
twylight	yeah	06:03
oobe	see on topic now	06:03
oobe	what seems to be the problem apart from slurred typing which i haven't noticed you doing	06:04
twylight	wtih teh slllred typeing I cnat workn teh console	06:04
twylight	i teher a program to unfcuk my typingg?	06:04
onishidato	twylight: chat clearer, i can't understand	06:05
Daisuke-Ido	yeah, 'sleep'	06:05
sub[t]rnl	heh	06:05
twylight	sudo apt-get install ssleep	06:05
onishidato	sleep with 2 s ?	06:06
twylight	couldn't find package sleep	06:06
onishidato	count the sheep	06:06
oobe	twylight, go to /dev/null	06:06
onishidato	:D	06:06
Daisuke-Ido	oobe: you just suggested he undergo a complete existence failure.	06:06
twylight	haha	06:07
twylight	that's akin to "kill yourself"	06:07
crazy_bus	I had a number of downloads in my 'downloader for x' list. However I ran out of hard drive space on one of my partitions. This seems to have caused the program to lose the download list. Is their anyway to get it back?	06:07
Dr_willis	kill -9 self	06:07
Saagar	Hi... Can anyone help me out on multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN	06:07
Saagar	What address ahould I use?	06:07
onishidato	!multicast	06:08
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about multicast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	06:08
oobe	Daisuke-Ido, that is my idea of sleep especially in twylight's state :P	06:08
Saagar	Thanks uboto	06:09
ardchoille	!bot \| Saagar	06:09
ubotu	Saagar: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	06:09
twylight	!sleep	06:09
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sleep - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	06:09
twylight	k	06:09
Saagar	Any channels where I can get help?	06:10
onishidato	what is your pro?	06:10
oobe	hwy ubutu ahh forget i said anything do not reply	06:10
onishidato	can you tell us clearer?	06:10
Saagar	multicasting. I need to multicast within my LAN	06:10
Saagar	I have an ip cam	06:10
Saagar	when i enable it to multicast	06:10
Saagar	my LAN gets congested	06:10
Saagar	dont know why	06:11
Saagar	any guess on this?	06:11
oobe	BW	06:11
oobe	try a lower bitrate	06:11
oobe	and res	06:11
Saagar	yes Oobe. I tried	06:11
Saagar	That works	06:12
Ch1ppy	hey, I'm trying to play a game (nexuiz) but every so often X takes up 100% CPU usage for several seconds with no cause. It's even caused blank screens... Can anyone help me out?	06:12
Saagar	But My LAN bandwidth 100 Mbps	06:12
onishidato	Ch1ppy: how much ram do you have?	06:12
Ch1ppy	onishidato: 2 gigs, and I'm nowhere near that amount	06:12
Saagar	i enabled only 6 Mbps in the device	06:12
Saagar	would that clog my network?	06:13
oobe	Saagar, but you want use higher res ?	06:13
onishidato	Ch1ppy: wow	06:13
Ch1ppy	onishidato: :)	06:13
Saagar	yes	06:13
onishidato	Ch1ppy: and your VGA card?	06:13
Ch1ppy	onishidato: eVGA eGeForce 6800 GT	06:13
Saagar	I suspect it is streaming outside my LAN.	06:13
onishidato	Ch1ppy: maybe you should check your card, cause some cards doesn't support your game setting	06:14
Ch1ppy	onishidato: it handles the game really well (100+ FPS) except when X randomly spikes	06:14
Saagar	oobe: What do you think?	06:14
oobe	Saagar, yeah it could cause 100 Mbps is still only theoretical speed plus are you streaming to more than one person at once	06:14
Ch1ppy	onishidato: so I don't think it's related to the game settings or anything exceeding the capabilities of my box	06:14
onishidato	Ch1ppy: does it usually happen?	06:15
Saagar	Oobe: How can I limit streaming to a particular group?	06:16
Ch1ppy	onishidato: you mean the X spikes? I'm watching it now, and it doesn't seem to happen without nexuiz running, but I don't see it being an issue with nexuiz	06:16
Saagar	Say the ip address range 192.168.11.80 - 192.168.11.89	06:16
Ch1ppy	onishidato: it does spike to ~4-7% cpu every now and then, but nowhere near the magnitude that I see while playing	06:16
oobe	Saagar, not sure	06:16
onishidato	Ch1ppy: i c	06:17
Saagar	okay oobe. Thank you anyway	06:17
oobe	Saagar, ur probably better limiting access to the ip cam	06:17
Ch1ppy	onishidato: yeah... I'm a little confused as to what might cause sudden, short spikes like that too though. I can't think of anything that would do that... :S	06:17
oobe	have u checked whats going on with netstat ?	06:18
onishidato	Ch1ppy: or maybe your box is too fast :)	06:18
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rohan	i want a module to be loaded on startup - what do i do ?	06:18
Saagar	oobe: nope. Lemme try that out	06:19
onishidato	rohan: which one?	06:19
rohan	onishidato: acer_acpi	06:19
Ch1ppy	onishidato: hehe. I doubt it though, since I can see the X process spiking in CPU usage when the lag happens, not just nexuiz compensating or something (I actually had that issue with CS 1.6 on windows before though, dual core problems :) )	06:19
Dr_willis	# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.	06:19
rohan	Dr_willis: thank you.	06:19
Dr_willis	rohan, add it to the /etc/modules file	06:19
Saagar	I just wanted to verify if multicasting can also clogg the network. Coz it is a technology to reduce the netwrok traffic. right?	06:19
Dr_willis	:)	06:20
Saagar	oobe: Im not good at networks, plz correct me if im wrong	06:20
phil_	hey	06:20
phil_	wazzup\	06:20
twylight	what	06:20
phil_	wassup	06:21
phil_	whatsup	06:21
twylight	that's so 90's	06:21
phil_	i know	06:21
onishidato	Ch1ppy: got it he he	06:21
phil_	i was born in the 88	06:21
phil_	the 90`s kicked ass	06:21
Dr_willis	What You Talking about phil_ !	06:22
Dr_willis	:)	06:22
phil_	the freakin 90s lol	06:22
oobe	Saagar, i really dont know much about multicasting but im assuming if you watching a broadcast over your lan it should consume a fair amount of bandwidth	06:22
Dr_willis	its all a blure to me...	06:22
Daisuke-Ido	lord i feel old now	06:22
phil_	dr.willis?	06:22
Daisuke-Ido	though i know i'm probably about median around here	06:23
Saagar	oobe:thank you	06:23
phil_	i love this game awesome	06:23
Daisuke-Ido	28 in just under 3 weeks :\	06:23
phil_	tremulous everyone should get it	06:24
oobe	Saagar, are you trying to do somthing like a security ip cam system then using lower res should be an easy fix other wise i saw a fairly indepth tutorial on streaming tv over a campus using LAN i cant find it but google should help	06:24
=== phil_ is now known as phil_hardcore
phil_hardcore	de de de	06:25
Dr_willis	phil_ that game makes me dizy and i puke.. :)	06:25
phil_hardcore	sorry	06:26
Dr_willis	wall crawling/fisheyed/jumping aliens = way dizzy :)	06:26
phil_hardcore	lol	06:26
Saagar	oobe: Okay. Thanks for your patience and help	06:26
phil_hardcore	i love that games	06:26
Dr_willis	Of course the fact that i SUCK at the game dont help much	06:26
oobe	Saagar, as for limiting streaming to a particular group you could use ip tables to set a rule on what ip ranges can access the ip cam	06:26
oobe	Saagar, dont ask me how though	06:26
phil_hardcore	nexuiz?	06:26
Saagar	oobe: :) Sure i wont	06:26
Dr_willis	Ill stick with Team Fortress 2 for now. :)	06:27
phil_hardcore	lol	06:27
Dr_willis	at least i spend more time alive, then dead in TF2	06:27
oobe	Saagar, only cause i dont know	06:27
phil_hardcore	do you like devil driver?	06:27
phil_hardcore	the band?	06:27
Mani213	hey im trying to install linux cause my computer retarted mid way	06:27
* Dr_willis jams to Kenny G.		06:27
Mani213	and im doing it manual install now it doesnt seem to be working	06:27
phil_hardcore	oh noo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	06:27
monzie	HI all	06:27
monzie	I am trying to setup a dedicated partition for builds	06:27
monzie	Should i user ResierFS instead of ext3?	06:27
oobe	Mani213, my computer was retarted once	06:28
phil_hardcore	no use ext3	06:28
Dr_willis	I see no reason to use reiserfs over ext3.	06:28
Mani213	ye like it was configuring after installing linux	06:28
monzie	Dr_willis: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap4	06:28
Dr_willis	Unless you got some very speficic idea/needs as to why you need reiser.	06:28
Dr_willis	monzie, just because gentoo suggests it . doesnt make it a good idea. :)	06:28
monzie	The gentoo handbook says reiser is faster than ext3	06:28
phil_hardcore	anyone using enlightenment?	06:28
Dr_willis	monzie, ive heard its faster at SOME operations.	06:28
monzie	Dr_willis: But i could not get ubuntu's position on filesystems, so aksed	06:28
monzie	Dr_willis: for builds?	06:29
monzie	Dr_willis: essentiallly i want to build KDE4 on the partition	06:29
Dr_willis	phil_hardcore, been using the gos and Geubuntu desktops a little. :)	06:29
Mani213	how do i install it manualy when the drives are there but it doesnt let me	06:29
Mani213	do i check the home drive or the swap driveÉ	06:29
phil_hardcore	psh	06:29
oobe	Mani213, did u try using the alternate install	06:30
Dr_willis	monzie, i aint touching KDE4 for some time. :) heh heh . I dont think you would gain much by using reiserfs on the build filesystem. but try it both ways and see I guess.	06:30
Mani213	what do you mean alternate installÉ	06:30
monzie	Dr_willis: ok. i like building kde4.	06:30
phil_hardcore	i would just wait on kde 4 until the stable comes out	06:30
monzie	Dr_willis: Thought my laptop would maybe able to build it faster if i used reiserfs	06:31
Dr_willis	laptop hd's are often so slow.. its.. well.. sad. :(	06:31
oobe	Mani213, there is a alternate install disk that doesnt use a DE it is all command like a Debian installer and it is much more versatile	06:31
Dr_willis	My poor laptop has a 4800 rpm hd. :(	06:31
Dr_willis	distcc an a lan of helper machines may help more. :)	06:31
Mani213	okay well is there any way of resuming the installationÉ	06:31
oobe	u are better off starting again	06:32
oobe	was it a fresh install	06:32
Mani213	so if the drive is already created from preivous installtion would i just format the ext3 driveÉ	06:32
Mani213	or the swap drive toÉ	06:32
Jay-Oh-En	is there a popup blocker for kubuntu	06:35
maduser	firefox	06:36
Dr_willis	There are such extensions for firefox.	06:36
Dr_willis	adblock, noscript, and others.	06:36
Jay-Oh-En	Dr_willis: oh ok but do they work good	06:37
inteliwasp	how can i move data from one computer to another and still make sure it is verified?	06:37
Jay-Oh-En	Dr_willis: becuase i get alot of pop up	06:37
Jay-Oh-En	s	06:37
Dr_willis	they work same for me under windows as they do linux.	06:37
Dr_willis	I dont recall getting any popups	06:37
Dr_willis	In fact i find it bizzar when i use other pwoples machines that dont have them. at the shere FLood of spammy ads they get. :)	06:38
Mani213	is there a software to combain two hard drives back to one disk	06:38
Mani213	cause of partitioningÉ	06:39
Dr_willis	Who ever came up with that Intellitext Double Underline popup ad/link thing. keeds to be .. well.. removed. :)	06:39
* twylight hiccusspssss mainaiccally		06:40
oobe	Mani213, you dont need to format it but it shouldnt take that long and wouldnt hurt	06:41
twylight	10 bed	06:41
twylight	20 goto 10	06:41
twylight	30 end	06:41
Dr_willis	15 print ZZZzzz...	06:42
Mani213	oobe: you know how i mac computers have a icon dock thats 3d can you get that for kubuntu as wellÉ	06:42
oobe	Mani213, you can use cfdisk to delete the unwanted partitions and make a new one with the combined space	06:42
Dr_willis	theres various dock/panel replacements for kde.. but a lot of them are rather.. lacking :)	06:42
Mani213	so whats the swap drive for storing dataÉ	06:43
oobe	Mani213, i really cant answer you last question	06:43
ardchoille	!info kooldock \| Mani213	06:43
ubotu	mani213: kooldock: Dock for KDE with cool visual enhancements. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 523 kB, installed size 980 kB	06:43
dsmith_	omb someone programed in basic	06:43
dsmith_	lol	06:43
dsmith_	OMG	06:43
dsmith_	10 20, 30	06:43
Dr_willis	swap partition is where the linux swaps out to have extra memory.	06:45
Dr_willis	better then a swap file. :)	06:45
Dr_willis	Of course if you got a lot of ram. you really dont need one i hear.. but i always put at least 512mb swap partion on all my hd's	06:45
Mani213	oh okay okay	06:46
Mani213	ye cause i was wondering whats the point of 2 hard drives	06:46
Dr_willis	2 PARTITIONS is NOT the same as 2 hard drives...	06:46
Dr_willis	Dont get the 2 terms confused. :)(	06:46
Mani213	would the swap file be readable if you operate windows É	06:47
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=== oni is now known as onishidato
oobe	Mani213, you sound like you need to be doing some basic reading up on linux there are many website resources available to choose from	06:47
oobe	Mani213, www.google.com/linux	06:48
onishidato	hey guys	06:48
adamonline45	Is there anyone familiar with using KDevelop as a C++ IDE?	06:48
Mani213	hey im reinstalling and it stoped at scanning mirror	06:48
Mani213	at the configuring apt	06:49
Dr_willis	windows will not use the linux swap partition, or a linux swap file. :)	06:49
Dr_willis	Linux can have swap FILES, and/or swap partitions also. :) and yes you can have one of each. or several of each.	06:49
onishidato	i use both window and Kubuntu on my computer. i use 2 HD, 1 for WinXp, and one for Kubuntu, now, i'm using Kubuntu, but i want to check the other hardisk from kubuntu, how can i do now.	06:49
Dr_willis	Normal Linux HD layout. 1 drive.. Parittion 1 (as big as ya can get ) mounted to /. then a swap partition. i make mine 512mb+	06:50
Dr_willis	onishidato, check? you want to scan the ntfs filesystem for errors?	06:50
onishidato	no	06:50
Dr_willis	define 'check' then. :)	06:50
onishidato	i want to get the data from windowxp	06:50
Dr_willis	You mean Mount the windows filesystem :)	06:51
oobe	onishidato, i think he just wants to look at his windows files	06:51
Dr_willis	!ntfs3g	06:51
ubotu	ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions	06:51
onishidato	yeah	06:51
onishidato	thanks	06:51
oobe	onishidato, ls /media/	06:51
maduser	found a sick trick to accesning all you partitions at once	06:51
Dr_willis	They may allready be mounted in /media/ :)	06:51
oobe	Dr_willis, yeah thats what i was thinking sense ntfs-3g is oobe in gutsy	06:52
oobe	maduser, mount all :P	06:52
Mani213	yo what do you do when you wana install programs on linux you drag and drop the folder you downloadedÉ	06:53
Mani213	into storage É	06:53
ardchoille	Mani213: Just curious, but why do you end some sentences with an upper-case e?	06:54
Dr_willis	Mani213, you dont normally install programs in such a way	06:54
Dr_willis	The package manager tools allow you to install/remove/update programs in a rather easy way.	06:54
Mani213	sorry the É suppose to be questionmark i guess its because im still installing linux right now	06:54
ardchoille	Mani213: Ah, ok, no problem.	06:55
Mani213	package manager tool that comes with kubuntu 7.10 rightÉ	06:55
Dr_willis	of course it comes with it. :)	06:55
Dr_willis	!apt	06:55
ubotu	APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)	06:56
Dr_willis	if i want to isntall xchat i use the command 'sudo apt-get install xchat' and it finds/downloads/installs it. :) No web surfing needed.	06:57
Dr_willis	If i want the whole of Ubuntu-desktop i install 'ubuntu-desktop' :) that grabs seversl dozen+ packages that are needed.	06:57
Dr_willis	well night all. good luck	06:57
julian_	Hello world!!	06:58
onishidato	hello julian:P	06:59
gh	anyone familer with adding lame encoding support to the default kubuntu 7.10 using k3b?	07:00
adamonline45	Does anyone know why I'm getting a makefile error in KDevelop when I try to compile even a simple 'hello world' program?	07:00
maduser	i would sugest g++	07:00
adamonline45	maduser: Me?	07:01
pacman	can anyone give me some help with my grub?	07:01
julian_	someone knows how to recongnize a cellphone conected by usb as a gsm modem in /dev folder?	07:02
gh	or more simply how to install lame without compiling it myself?	07:02
sub[t]rnl	sudo apt-get install lame lame-extras liblame0	07:02
gh	already tried that	07:03
gh	errors out	07:04
sub[t]rnl	whats it say?	07:04
gh	Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package lame has no installation candidate	07:05
jussi01	gh: tried updating?	07:06
julian_	maybe you don't have uncommented all the repositories at source.list	07:06
jussi01	ie. sudo apt-get update	07:06
sfears	hello	07:06
gh	I'm unfamiler with kubuntu, but i will try that	07:06
sub[t]rnl	!find lame	07:07
ubotu	Found: flamerobin, flamethrower, glame, libtwolame-dev, libtwolame0 (and 9 others)	07:07
sub[t]rnl	!info lame	07:07
ubotu	lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.97-0.0 (gutsy), package size 268 kB, installed size 728 kB	07:07
gh	also, using the program install i see the only source is the cdrom	07:07
sub[t]rnl	make sure multiverse is in your sources.list too	07:07
jussi01	yeah, lame is in multiverse so you will need that	07:08
gh	I have no idea what sources.list or multiverse is but i will google	07:08
onishidato	hey	07:09
julian_	please help me!!	07:09
onishidato	how can i change to root now?	07:09
Daisuke-Ido	!root \| onishidato	07:09
ubotu	onishidato: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	07:09
onishidato	they say i can't unmount my disk, only root can unmount	07:09
julian_	does anyone know how to recognize a cellphone conected by usb to my laptop as a gsm modem in /dev folder?	07:10
gh	that was easy enough	07:10
gh	thank you all	07:10
sub[t]rnl	julian_: using wvdial?	07:13
onishidato	i can't unmount my CD disk now	07:13
onishidato	what can i do	07:13
sfears	julian_, http://thesandeep.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/using-a-gsm-cellphone-as-a-gprs-modem/	07:14
onishidato	they say only root can unmount it	07:14
sub[t]rnl	onishidato: use sudo before the command	07:14
sub[t]rnl	!sudo	07:14
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	07:14
onishidato	but can i do it manually?	07:14
julian_	no, I'm using a zabbix-server	07:14
sub[t]rnl	julian_: sfears gave a nice link, check it out	07:15
julian_	I need the phone for sending alarms	07:15
sfears	some people say cucumbers taste better pickled	07:15
julian_	I'll check it ou	07:16
julian_	out	07:16
onishidato	Unfortunately, the device system:/media/scd0 (/dev/scd0) named 'Kubuntu 7.10 i386' and currently mounted at /media/cdrom0 could not be unmounted.	07:16
onishidato	The following error was returned by umount command:	07:16
onishidato	umount: only root can unmount /dev/scd0 from /media/cdrom0	07:16
onishidato	i don't know what can i do next	07:17
sub[t]rnl	onishidato: sudo umount /media/cdrom0	07:17
onishidato	phew	07:18
onishidato	thanks	07:18
onishidato	i'm the newcomer with Kubuntu	07:18
sub[t]rnl	no worries, we're all here to help each other	07:18
julian_	the problem is that i don't have ttyACM0 device	07:19
julian_	so I don't know where is my phone	07:20
julian_	I just need the name under /dev	07:20
jussi01	julian_: sometimes it mounts it under ttyACM1	07:20
julian_	I don't have it too	07:20
julian_	xD	07:20
ibilic	hi, in my K menu, most of the entries start with "_: Entries in K-menu:"	07:22
ibilic	does anyone know how to fix this?	07:22
Jay-Oh-En	should my processor be running 100%	07:22
ubuntu	i need help i just installed linux and restarted my pc and it says i have a GRUB ERROR	07:23
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: not unless you are doing something intensive	07:23
jussi01	ubuntu: which grub error?	07:23
julian_	jussi01 I don't have any ttyACMx device	07:23
ubuntu	GRUD ERROR 7	07:23
ubuntu	or something	07:23
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: well im not :[	07:23
ubuntu	the first time i restarted it was working fine i could see windows and linux	07:23
ubuntu	now it just sats grub error	07:23
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: have a look through your process list to see what is causing it	07:23
Jay-Oh-En	htop?	07:24
ibilic	also, my USB disk doens't work, it says: "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" in Dolphin	07:24
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: that should work, yes	07:24
jussi01	ubuntu: have you changed anything since then?	07:25
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: X was taking it up	07:25
ubuntu	well when i runed windows i tried opening the partitioning program by norton but i didnt change settings	07:25
sub[t]rnl	ibilic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=601210	07:25
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: hmmm... wha are your system specs?	07:25
ubuntu	i just though i would restart and try kubuntu but it says grub error	07:25
ubuntu	and now i cant run windows as well	07:26
sub[t]rnl	!grub \|ubuntu	07:26
ubotu	ubuntu: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	07:26
jussi01	ubuntu: try the process for restoring grub after a windows install	07:26
ibilic	sub[t]rnl: thanks, google is wonderful :)	07:27
sub[t]rnl	amen	07:27
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: AMD 64bit processor 3000+ and 1GB of RAM and 500GB HDD and ATI - Radeon - AGP - 9550	07:28
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: which driver? the ati binary?	07:28
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: Fglrx	07:29
ubuntu	shit	07:29
ubuntu	i dont get this grub stuff	07:29
ubuntu	so i need to burn a cd and boot it?	07:29
jussi01	!language	07:30
ubotu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	07:30
ubuntu	sorry	07:30
sub[t]rnl	usually, yes you need a boot media so you can then mount your partition, and fix menu.lst and grub by hand	07:30
ubuntu	cant you just re config them ny the linux cd i used to install ?	07:31
ubuntu	by*	07:31
sub[t]rnl	yup	07:31
ubuntu	how do i do that?	07:31
sub[t]rnl	those links should tell you	07:31
sub[t]rnl	boot into the live cd, then mount your root partition	07:31
sub[t]rnl	then repair grub	07:31
sub[t]rnl	then reboot with the cd out	07:31
Jay-Oh-En	!ohmy	07:34
ubotu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	07:34
ubuntu	how do you open a terminal	07:34
ubuntu	by boot disk?	07:34
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Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: soooo....	07:35
jussi01	Jay-Oh-En: sooo... I have no idea. sorry.:(	07:35
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: oj	07:35
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: simpson	07:35
Jay-Oh-En	jussi01: lol	07:35
ibilic	how do I reset my Adept manager?	07:36
ibilic	it crashed	07:36
julian_	sudo dpkg.reconfigure -a	07:37
julian_	sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a	07:37
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ibilic	thanks	07:38
julian_	ok	07:40
Sulo_Seppa	Hey guys	07:41
sub[t]rnl	Greetings	07:42
Sulo_Seppa	I just got a new laptop yesterday, it is a HP Pavilion dv9628nr, And I just burned a kubuntu 7.10 x86_64 iso, will kubuntu work properly or is it useless for me to try the install? (I don't want it to screw vista up, I use it for some things)	07:43
lhadji	Sulo_Seppa, you can run it off the cdrom and see how it runs :D	07:45
=== Agrajag` is now known as Agrajag
Sulo_Seppa	Well I was also wondering if it works wireless or if you still have to set all that crap up?	07:46
praveenm	hi, is there any way to transfer files using ANY im client to gtalk on winxp	07:46
ardchoille	Sulo_Seppa: Is that laptop 64bit?	07:47
Sulo_Seppa	yes	07:47
ardchoille	ok	07:47
lhadji	Sulo_Seppa, it wont hurt to put the cd into the laptop and load it up. Anything you do wont affect your hard drive until you install it. Who knows, maybe wireless will work on boot :D	07:47
olbj	quit	07:48
Sulo_Seppa	Oh I wish. but I've grown accustom to having to grab one of my dusty cat5's and downloading some windows driver and doing that fun process	07:48
AshyIsMe	hello	07:48
sub[t]rnl	I run vista + 64bit kubuntu on another computer just fine. I would recommend using the vista partition resizing utility though, as I've came across errors when using anything else, like partition magic and such	07:48
AshyIsMe	does the iso from this link http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php allow you to install kubuntu?	07:48
AshyIsMe	or is it just a bootable livecd without the hdd install script?	07:48
sub[t]rnl	Sulo_Seppa: soon you will see the light though, and find that the vista partition is just taking up space :p	07:49
Sulo_Seppa	Well, I normally just use linux only, but there are some nice things about this. I may get rid of it if I get full functionality in linux (which I doubt)	07:50
Sulo_Seppa	So use vista resize?	07:50
sub[t]rnl	yup	07:50
lhadji	Sulo_Seppa have you run kubuntu live off the cd on the laptop before?	07:50
ubuntu	i tried fixing grub but doesnt seem to be working	07:50
sub[t]rnl	vista doesn't like anything else touching the drives, go figure	07:50
Sulo_Seppa	nah, I just got done burning the iso	07:50
Sulo_Seppa	the dvd iso	07:51
yurimxpxman_	is there a command (other than ls) to display the size of a file?	07:51
Sulo_Seppa	dh	07:51
ubuntu	i had to boot from cd inorder to run linux	07:51
sub[t]rnl	du	07:51
sub[t]rnl	du -h	07:51
Sulo_Seppa	du? haha 1 day of vista..	07:51
ibilic	I typed sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a ... what the hell did I get myself into? :)	07:51
sub[t]rnl	ibilic: reconfiguring every package is what	07:52
sub[t]rnl	:P	07:52
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jussi01	ibilic: thats only going to fix stuff...	07:52
ibilic	I don't get this thing... I install Kubuntu on my computer, and I just try to update everything using Adept... and it crashes... how lame is that?	07:53
ibilic	and then I want my USB drive to work... and I have to look up on the forums how to deal with the bug	07:53
ubuntu	is there any way of fixing grub while on linux	07:53
lhadji	Sulo_Seppa, cool. Let us know if kubuntu found all your drivers when you ran it live from the cd on your laptop :)	07:53
ibilic	and then the K-meny thing... again... looking up on the internet how to fix it	07:53
Sulo_Seppa	Okay, well partition will be easy since I have 2 HDDs (one has nothing on it yet, both 120GB), but will kubuntu set up grub right for vista? I've done dual-boot with xp, I don't know if vista is too much different.	07:53
ibilic	nothing seems to work the easy way!	07:53
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: get into the grub shell via -> sudo grub	07:53
ubuntu	how do i do that?	07:54
ibilic	but I won't give up :)	07:54
sub[t]rnl	ibilic: good man	07:54
ibilic	You may need to execute the asoundconf(1) set-default-card macro.	07:54
ibilic	/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc6 is broken or not fully installed	07:54
ibilic	what does this mean? what is libc6?	07:55
sub[t]rnl	its very important	07:55
sub[t]rnl	thats what	07:55
ibilic	i think this crashed Adept	07:55
Sulo_Seppa	okay well I am going to boot the live cd. hopefully I can connect...	07:55
ubuntu	sudo mount -o dev /mnt/hda1?	07:56
ubuntu	can i type that in when i type in alt f6?	07:56
ardchoille	ubuntu: You'll need a device, simply using "dev" won't do	07:56
ubuntu	so gimmi step by step what i should do	07:56
ibilic	ok so how do I fix the libc6 thing... I am reading what it is... and yes... it does seem pretty important....	07:57
ubuntu	easy and fast	07:57
sub[t]rnl	type this	07:57
sub[t]rnl	sudo grub	07:57
sub[t]rnl	do you see --> grub>	07:57
sub[t]rnl	a grub shell?	07:57
ibilic	who are you talking to?	07:57
ubuntu	so i press alt f2?	07:57
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu:	07:58
ibilic	ok :(	07:58
sub[t]rnl	alt + f2, then type --> konsole	07:58
ubuntu	okay	07:58
sub[t]rnl	ok, now	07:58
sub[t]rnl	sudo grub	07:58
ubuntu	i see the shell kinsole	07:58
sub[t]rnl	ibilic: sudo apt-get install -f	07:59
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: are you in the grub shell?	07:59
ubuntu	tetete	07:59
ubuntu	yeyey	07:59
ubuntu	i see grub>	07:59
ibilic	E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.	07:59
ibilic	i guess I'll do that	08:00
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: find /boot/grub/stage1	08:00
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: tell me what it says	08:00
ubuntu	error 27: unrecognized command	08:01
yurimxpxman_	how can I tell ls to display ./foo/bar.txt instead of bar.txt ?	08:01
ardchoille	sub[t]rnl: find works in a grub shell?	08:01
sub[t]rnl	ardchoille: hrm I thought so	08:01
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: just type "find" in the shell	08:02
sub[t]rnl	ubuntu: whats it say	08:02
ubuntu	error 15: file not found	08:02
sub[t]rnl	ok, so type this exactly	08:02
sub[t]rnl	find /boot/grub/stage1	08:03
ibilic	what does sudo apt-get install -f do?	08:03
sub[t]rnl	fix broken dependencies	08:03
ibilic	i am noting all these commands down for future reference :)	08:03
sub[t]rnl	man apt-get and a cup of coffee = good times	08:03
ubuntu	its giving me same error 15: file not found	08:04
sub[t]rnl	type here what you typed in the shell	08:04
ubuntu	Find /boot/grub/stagel	08:04
sub[t]rnl	show me what you typed	08:04
sub[t]rnl	ok, its stage1 not stagel ....as in stage(one)	08:05
ubuntu	still nothing	08:07
ubuntu	found	08:07
sub[t]rnl	show me what you typed	08:07
ubuntu	find /boot/grub/stagel	08:07
sub[t]rnl	thats not right	08:08
ardchoille	ubuntu: That last char is a 1 (one) not an "l"	08:08
ubuntu	oh	08:08
ubuntu	a 1?	08:08
ardchoille	yes	08:08
ubuntu	shit	08:08
jussi01	:)	08:08
sub[t]rnl	:P	08:08
ubuntu	i mean sorry	08:08
jussi01	!language	08:08
ubotu	Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	08:08
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ubuntu	okay it says (hd0,5)	08:09
sub[t]rnl	there we go	08:10
ubuntu	and back to the grub> command	08:10
sub[t]rnl	good	08:10
sub[t]rnl	now type	08:10
sub[t]rnl	root (hd0,5)	08:10
ubuntu	okay	08:10
ubuntu	now its back to grub>command again	08:10
sub[t]rnl	now type	08:11
sub[t]rnl	setup (hd0)	08:11
ubuntu	it says checking and both are yes	08:11
INFOEXCLUDED	was it started yet ?	08:11
ubuntu	and its sccedded and done	08:11
ubuntu	back to the grub command	08:12
sub[t]rnl	succeeded, good	08:12
ubuntu	so now its fixed?	08:12
sub[t]rnl	now type quit	08:12
sub[t]rnl	and reboot, yeah should be fixed	08:12
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ubuntu	thanks a million	08:12
ardchoille	!grub	08:12
ubuntu	let me try this	08:12
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	08:12
ubuntu	ill be back if it doesnt work be ready	08:12
ubuntu	lol	08:12
ardchoille	sub[t]rnl: You seem to be really good with the grub shell. Perhaps when you have time, you could take a look at the !grub tutorial and enhance it if possible.	08:13
PJC121	sub[t]rnl: will those instructions make grub 'find' a vista OS on a seperate hard drive. Ie I installed kubuntu a while back but grub didn't pick up the vista installation	08:13
sub[t]rnl	ardchoille: yes sir	08:13
INFOEXCLUDED	how do i start ubuntu from windows boot menu ?	08:13
johann787	Hi, does anyone know what the default root password is after install, unable to do a sudo command	08:14
INFOEXCLUDED	isnt there any automatic way ?	08:14
johann787	no	08:14
ardchoille	johann787: There is no root pass, sudo uses your user passwd	08:14
jussi01	!root \| johann787	08:15
ubotu	johann787: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	08:15
sub[t]rnl	PJC121: using that method will only repair grub on a harddrive that has its installation files	08:15
johann787	I tries to use sudo but my username which I entered in the beginning is not in the sudo list	08:15
INFOEXCLUDED	can i had an sudusless user ?	08:15
PJC121	ah, I see, thank you	08:15
INFOEXCLUDED	johann787: its better to be on de safe side	08:16
INFOEXCLUDED	sudu = root acess no mater what ubuntu devs claim	08:16
johann787	I see , so mabye i have to reinstall in advenced mode, is there a way to choose the root password there , or is there a way to unlock the root account ?	08:17
INFOEXCLUDED	unlocking the root acount is easy	08:17
ardchoille	johann787: You won't be using or setting up a root password in any ubuntu install, sudo is used, the root account is locked.	08:18
INFOEXCLUDED	ive done it before	08:18
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: That info is not recommended and not supported here	08:18
ibilic	is there a "Klite Codec pack" equivalent in linux?	08:18
Proteus	How stable is kde4 rc2? I'm thinking about trying it out	08:18
johann787	ok , I realy need to use the root account rather than sudo , I dont like that ;)	08:18
sub[t]rnl	INFOEXCLUDED: the whole point of sudo is to make a root password or account not needed, greatly increasing your box's security	08:18
INFOEXCLUDED	how can that increase security ?	08:19
ibilic	also, something that will let me browse all those websites requireing special plugins like youtube	08:19
ardchoille	johann787: The recommended and supported method is to use sudo, it can do anything root can do.	08:19
INFOEXCLUDED	havin an root acount with out password	08:19
sub[t]rnl	INFOEXCLUDED: no root account, no root password	08:19
INFOEXCLUDED	sudo = root acount with out password	08:19
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: How do you brute force a locked root account?	08:19
johann787	If I try to use the sudo command the OS says that I´m not in the sudoers list. Am I locked out of the OS ?	08:19
INFOEXCLUDED	can linux run with out root acount ?	08:20
INFOEXCLUDED	never eard about it	08:20
INFOEXCLUDED	isnt root acount there ?	08:20
ardchoille	Ubuntu has a root account, it's simply locked and we use sudo for admin tasks	08:20
INFOEXCLUDED	sudo = root acount with out password	08:20
ardchoille	!sudo \| INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:	08:21
johann787	Mabye because my name has a special characters that the OS might not support ?	08:21
beroual	hi	08:21
beroual	xubunu ?	08:21
ubotu	INFOEXCLUDED Lots of good info here:: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	08:21
beroual	bye	08:21
atwo1	ok so	08:22
atwo1	round 2	08:22
INFOEXCLUDED	i think sudo is a pain	08:22
johann787	already read it but thr sudo does not work, the user I used during installation is not in the sudoers list	08:22
INFOEXCLUDED	you need to type sudo every new command	08:22
atwo1	not always	08:22
atwo1	just do your commands from root	08:22
atwo1	sudo into terminal	08:22
johann787	I cant Im not in the sudoers list	08:23
atwo1	ardchoille: hi	08:23
ardchoille	hi atwo1	08:23
INFOEXCLUDED	cant see whats difrent betwen sudo and having an root acount with out password	08:23
atwo1	ardchoille: i'm reinstalling again lol	08:23
atwo1	clicking the autodetect for graphics card STOPPED it recognising the monitor at all	08:23
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: There is a lot of information that explains that on the wiki page the bot linked you	08:24
ubuntu	i have a 2nd problem now:(:(:(:(:	08:24
INFOEXCLUDED	i guess even you cant explain it	08:24
INFOEXCLUDED	nvm	08:24
INFOEXCLUDED	how can you ssh to ubuntu ?	08:25
johann787	Ok Ill try	08:25
atwo1	!ssh	08:25
ubotu	SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/	08:25
INFOEXCLUDED	dosent ssh implies a root user ?	08:25
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: no	08:25
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: I have ssh access to several boxes where I am not root/admin	08:26
Proteus	Hi, I'm using xubuntu right now but I was thinking about trying out the new kde4 rc2 release. Could anyone give me some info about how stable it is and any problems I should expect?	08:26
Proteus	Should I even bother with rc2?	08:27
ubuntu	at the bootup screen i try running linux it says cannnot mount selected partition what does that mean?	08:27
atwo1	no	08:27
atwo1	not atm	08:27
pacman	can anyone give me some help with my grub?	08:27
atwo1	Proteus: go for 7.10	08:27
atwo1	unless you want to test	08:27
atwo1	!grub	08:27
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	08:27
INFOEXCLUDED	does ubuntu use something like this ? unlogable system acount aka root and just have admins with sudo access	08:27
atwo1	pacman: ^	08:27
jussi01	Proteus: I would wait if I were you	08:28
ubuntu	atwol your bootup screen doesnt work?	08:28
Proteus	jussi01, any specific reason?	08:28
INFOEXCLUDED	does ubuntu have spins like fedora ?	08:28
jussi01	Proteus: its not yet fully useable, and has a lot of bugs.	08:28
Proteus	jussi01, ok, thanks for the advice.	08:28
jussi01	Proteus: I suggest grabbing the live cd and having a look	08:28
atwo1	ubuntu: i'm reinstalling kubuntu now	08:28
ubuntu	ye cause i got help with that grub boot up setup	08:29
ubuntu	it works but when i try running linux it doesn work	08:29
ubuntu	it says cannot mount seleted partition	08:29
INFOEXCLUDED	i need to make a live usb variant aka poor mans instsall or frugal install to use on usb drive	08:29
INFOEXCLUDED	is it easy ?	08:29
Proteus	jussi01, I'd just read that the qt4 switch had drastically cut the memory footprint and I got all excited, hoping I could get something pretty running on this pII system	08:30
INFOEXCLUDED	should i used fedroa instead ?	08:30
jussi01	!install \| INFOEXCLUDED	08:30
ubotu	INFOEXCLUDED: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate	08:30
INFOEXCLUDED	i hate man pages	08:30
jussi01	Proteus: yeah, but I dont think its that drastic. and if you need a stable system, definately not.	08:30
Proteus	jussi01, right. Thanks again.	08:31
jussi01	Proteus: :)	08:31
INFOEXCLUDED	isnt it easyer to use fedora ?	08:31
ubuntu	aii can some one help me i cant load linux at boot up screen	08:31
INFOEXCLUDED	with spins ?	08:31
ardchoille	INFOEXCLUDED: Please take that to another channel.	08:31
rx_	i cant get kde4 rc2 to install on hardy. please help.	08:31
INFOEXCLUDED	why ?	08:31
atwo1	!ot	08:31
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	08:31
atwo1	oi brb	08:31
INFOEXCLUDED	you havent used fedora spins ?	08:31
atwo1	!fedora	08:32
ubotu	Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)	08:32
INFOEXCLUDED	FREAKING BOOTS	08:32
atwo1	lawlz	08:32
jussi01	INFOEXCLUDED: please keep it on topic.	08:32
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eleve	hello	08:32
ubuntu	yo jussi01	08:32
* awto1[brb] is away: brb bottle o run		08:32
INFOEXCLUDED	im keeping it on my topic	08:32
vzduch	INFOEXCLUDED: this is #kubuntu, you want to go to #fedora, /me thinks	08:32
ardchoille	!away > awto1[brb]	08:32
ubuntu	when i try booting linux it says cannot mount seletec partition what should i do ?	08:33
vbgunz	I have a 2 part question. I just reformatted and repartitioned an external USB disk. 1, I have no permission to write to it. 2, it's a 10GB disk, I just reformatted it, reparitioned it, why is over 600MB stated as used?	08:33
INFOEXCLUDED	im just asking whats the best/easy way to make drivate "distro" that uses poor mans install and can be used from usb drive	08:33
Jay-Oh-En	INFOEXCLUDED: if you figure it out tell me i want that too	08:34
ardchoille	vbgunz: Did you format it to ext3?	08:34
vbgunz	yeah	08:34
vbgunz	chown it?	08:34
sub[t]rnl	vbgunz: ntfs on the usb drive?	08:34
sub[t]rnl	oh nm	08:34
INFOEXCLUDED	i cant know they wont tell me	08:34
ardchoille	vbgunz: ext3 reserves space for the journal	08:35
vbgunz	I formatted the external USB drive as ext 3	08:35
INFOEXCLUDED	alaways with theyr distro turfing	08:35
vbgunz	ardchoille: yeah, 5% correct? or am I wrong?	08:35
ardchoille	vbgunz: I'm not exactly sure how much space	08:35
INFOEXCLUDED	i thought linux to biger than distros	08:36
vzduch	must be something like 7%	08:36
jussi01	INFOEXCLUDED: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar	08:36
ardchoille	vbgunz: I did notice that when I formatted my 80Gb drive, it reserved 3Gb of that space	08:36
INFOEXCLUDED	whats for ?	08:37
vbgunz	ardchoille: yeah, thats true. 600MB+ is a bit more than 5% 10GB, + 10GB isn't what it really is, probably more like 9.3GB	08:37
INFOEXCLUDED	swap sapce ?	08:37
INFOEXCLUDED	jussi01: i dont what just to install ubuntu to usb drive i need to make work from ram	08:38
INFOEXCLUDED	and to use HW detection like knoppis or something and install drivers automaticaly if needed	08:39
jussi01	INFOEXCLUDED: why do you need that? what exactly are you trying to acheive?	08:40
INFOEXCLUDED	and has to be smaller then 500 megas	08:40
INFOEXCLUDED	make a portable dektop	08:40
INFOEXCLUDED	desktop	08:40
INFOEXCLUDED	to use on a 1 gigabite usb pen	08:40
INFOEXCLUDED	on any computer	08:40
jussi01	INFOEXCLUDED: so you want to install it to a usb pen like the link is about!	08:41
vbgunz	INFOEXCLUDED: was thinking exactly that... would really like to make my main harddisk, my external disk, capable of booting up anywhere, and use my internal disk as a backup... I just don't have the patience to do it now :(	08:41
INFOEXCLUDED	it should install proprietrie driver too for gaming but do it automaticaly	08:41
vbgunz	whats the program to check a disk health?	08:41
vbgunz	I installed it and forgot the name :P	08:41
pacman	I'm looking for a program that you can run XP with...I can't remember the name of it	08:43
vbgunz	smartctl I think	08:43
sub[t]rnl	fsck?	08:43
jussi01	pacman: vmware	08:43
vbgunz	pacman: a virtual machine? virtualbox?	08:43
ActionParsnip	hey all	08:44
sebastian^	good morning folks	08:45
ActionParsnip	hey sebastian^	08:45
INFOEXCLUDED	cant ghrub boot an .iso file ?	08:47
INFOEXCLUDED	cant grub boot an .iso file ?	08:47
INFOEXCLUDED	that would be a nice feature to had to grub	08:47
ActionParsnip	INFOEXCLUDED, not sure, let me google	08:47
pacman	I'm getting an error message while downloading vmware	08:48
ardchoille	pacman: What is the error?	08:48
pacman	There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.	08:49
INFOEXCLUDED	pacman: i dont have anything to do with that	08:49
* awto1[brb] is back from brb bottle o run [duration: 17mins 22secs]		08:50
awto1[brb]	i got that pm	08:50
awto1[brb]	but once the away goes on it had to come off, won't do it again	08:50
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vzduch	INFOEXCLUDED: you're not the only one in here looking for help..	08:50
ActionParsnip	INFOEXCLUDED, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-170530.html	08:50
spitfire	hi all, i was wondering, im trying to install flashplayer to watch youtube	08:50
spitfire	but apt-get dosnt have it	08:50
spitfire	is there another name for it?	08:51
vzduch	!flash \| spitfire	08:51
ubotu	spitfire: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash	08:51
ActionParsnip	!flash9 \| spitfire	08:51
ActionParsnip	spitfire, go to www.adobe.com and download it and follow the instructions	08:51
vzduch	ActionParsnip: for Feisty there was a pkg.. isn't that available any more for Gutsy?	08:52
ardchoille	spitfire: It's best to stick with the package manager to handle software when possible so you will get updates and bug fixes automatically	08:52
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ActionParsnip	vzduch, ive always just copied the .so file to my plugins dir. Never saw the point of a package	08:53
spitfire	aha ok thanks for the info	08:53
ActionParsnip	oi oi SatManUK	08:54
SatManUK	hello	08:54
SatManUK	ActionParsnip: do you know how to remove US english from OpenOffice	08:54
SatManUK	I changed all the dictionaries to UK English default	08:54
SatManUK	but it still uses to autocheck in usa english	08:55
atwo1	!nvidia	08:55
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	08:55
SatManUK	!ping	08:56
ubotu	pong	08:56
atwo1	i got to try to fix this bs problem again	08:56
SatManUK	ActionParsnip: ping me please..	08:56
ActionParsnip	SatManUK, http://homepage.ntlworld.com/garryknight/linux/oodict.html	08:56
SatManUK	channel synchronised in 55 seconds says im lagging bad	08:56
atwo1	!ping satmanuk	08:56
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ping satmanuk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	08:56
ActionParsnip	SatManUK, Looks pretty decent	08:56
ActionParsnip	SatManUK, 237ms	08:57
spitfire	Download done.	08:57
spitfire	md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz	08:57
spitfire	The Flash plugin is NOT installed.	08:57
SatManUK	237 ms hmm.. 2.3 seconds guess thats ok..	08:58
ActionParsnip	spitfire, did you extract the files from the tar.gz?	08:58
spitfire	:S to tell you the truth i cant find where they got downloaded	08:58
atwo1	what do i add the nameserver to again	08:59
atwo1	and how do i do that	08:59
ActionParsnip	spitfire, then redownload to somewhere you know it is	08:59
sub[t]rnl	atwo1: /etc/resolv.conf	08:59
sub[t]rnl	open it with kate, or another editor	08:59
tuxwulf_	So... How to prevent my network settigns from changing automatically?	09:00
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sub[t]rnl	tuxwulf_: you'll need to edit your /etc/network/interfaces	09:00
tuxwulf_	sub[t]rnl: I can not do so with ifconfig on the fly any more?	09:00
sub[t]rnl	not sure	09:01
ActionParsnip	spitfire, then sudo cp the .so file to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins	09:01
sub[t]rnl	not if you want it static	09:01
atwo1	ok	09:01
ActionParsnip	spitfire, then restart your browser	09:01
atwo1	sub[t]rnl: thanks my net works now	09:01
atwo1	ok	09:03
tuxwulf_	Gee...... that bums me out... all that automatic stuff is for MS users...	09:03
atwo1	im getting this issue where the screen is pushed accross from the left side by about 200px (this is in the native res)	09:03
atwo1	im enablding the nvidia thing in restricted drivers	09:04
sub[t]rnl	tuxwulf_: ifconfig'ing an ip up will only be temporary anyway, when you restart networking it gets read from /etc/network/interfaces	09:04
ActionParsnip	atwo1, you could use your monitor controls :D	09:04
atwo1	last time i did this on restart it didnt detect the screen at all once it was loaded up	09:04
atwo1	ActionParsnip: that doesn't work	09:04
atwo1	anywhere near where its meant to	09:04
tuxwulf_	sub[t]rnl: Yes, but I want to be able to change it onnnnnnnne fly	09:04
sub[t]rnl	tuxwulf_: then ifconfig your little heart out bro :D	09:04
tuxwulf_	sub[t]rnl: ... Yes... I think you do not understand what my issue is...	09:05
atwo1	ok it's enabled, now if i restatr and it doesn't detect it, i have to reinstall kubuntu	09:05
atwo1	again	09:05
ActionParsnip	atwo1, do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	09:05
atwo1	wait its restarting	09:06
ActionParsnip	atwo1, so you have the latest	09:06
atwo1	GREAT	09:06
atwo1	it says 'no signal' and i can't see anything on the desktop	09:06
sub[t]rnl	tuxwulf_: heh, you can set a static ip with ifconfig, but when you restart the network, it will not hold. Adding the ip's to your interface file will keep. No, you can't do it on the fly	09:06
tuxwulf_	My eth0 gets an IP by DHCP. But, I want to hang my computer directly in the internet with one of my fixed addresses, just for a moment. So I use ifconfig to reconfigure the eth0. But the moment I plug in the public cable, my eth0 is downed, and the settings deleted.	09:06
ActionParsnip	atwo1, ok then boot to your live cd, mount your drive and copy back your original xorg.conf	09:06
atwo1	ok here's one for u	09:06
tuxwulf_	In 7.04 this was no problem, but in 7.10 ... no way.	09:07
llutz	tuxwulf_: you need to stop networkmanager handling your device	09:07
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atwo1	it loads to a blank black screen where i can enter text (it starts down half way on the scvreen) and nothnig else can be done	09:07
atwo1	its plain text, pressing enter just enters to the next line	09:07
atwo1	wtf	09:07
tuxwulf_	liutz! Ah! Okay.	09:07
ActionParsnip	atwo1, can you type startx	09:07
atwo1	yes	09:07
atwo1	and it does nothing	09:07
atwo1	its just a black screen	09:07
atwo1	that will accept text	09:07
atwo1	and do nothnig with it	09:08
spitfire	ActionParsnip: can you give me the proper sudo cp ... i dont know the format in which i can write it	09:08
ActionParsnip	atwo1, boot to yourlive cd and get your old xorg.conf file back	09:08
atwo1	ok brb	09:08
atwo1	will need help doing what u suggested	09:08
ActionParsnip	atwo1, id try a cold reboot too	09:08
atwo1	i reinstalled the whole thing last time	09:08
atwo1	yeah	09:08
atwo1	it just	09:08
tuxwulf_	liutz > Nope, same thing happens....	09:08
atwo1	loads up the screen with 'kubuntu' and the blue bar fillnig up	09:09
atwo1	then it gets further on and the monitor msg comes up 'no signal'	09:09
atwo1	and it loads that black screen	09:09
atwo1	rebooting done nothing	09:10
atwo1	loading with disc now	09:10
atwo1	oh snap	09:10
atwo1	when it says 'start or install kubuntu'	09:10
atwo1	oh wait nm	09:10
ActionParsnip	atwo1, did you backup your original xorg.conf?	09:11
atwo1	no	09:12
atwo1	it was a fresh install	09:12
vbgunz	anyone know how to effectively test a hard drives health? I cannot do anything with smartctl :(	09:13
martin_	hello	09:13
atwo1	martin_: hello	09:13
martin_	its my first time	09:13
atwo1	ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x from disc to hdd with k on it	09:13
atwo1	martin_: lolz having fun?	09:14
atwo1	ActionParsnip: how do i copy the x.org from disc to hdd with k on it	09:15
martin_	dont know yet	09:16
martin_	looks nice	09:16
sigma_	whats the easiest way to setup the tv out on a nvidia 6600gt? i have the glx drivers installed and they are working	09:17
sigma_	but it reports a modeline error whenever i try switching to the tv	09:17
atwo1	someone tell me if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?	09:19
spitfire	frustration...	09:19
tuxwulf_	How do I make K3b use a blank DVD to burn a CD image?	09:20
spitfire	when i do the sudo cp the file i want to copy is in 'home/install...../libflashplayer.so	09:20
spitfire	it says no directory found	09:21
vzduch	spitfire: if that makes it easier for you, change to the dir where the file is	09:22
atwo1	if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?	09:25
etfb	I hope this isn't so stupid that I'm appointed Idiot of the Week, but... I uninstalled knetworkmanager. Now I can't reinstall because (surprise, surprise) I don't have a network connection. Can anyone suggest a solution that doesn't involve reinstalling?	09:25
spitfire	vzduch: even with that its not working	09:27
spitfire	check out the format please	09:28
spitfire	sudo cp ./home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins	09:28
etfb	atwol: don't quite understand. Is x.org a file on your CD, or do you mean the entire xorg (ie XWindows) system?	09:28
vzduch	the dot before '/home' is wrong	09:28
spitfire	vzduch: /home/spitfire/desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so': No such file or directory	09:29
johann787	what is the baest way to upgrade ubuntu or install new packges, is it with the awget command ?	09:29
ardchoille	spitfire: Desktop, not desktop	09:29
etfb	johann787: definitely with apt-get, or its GUI equivalent aptitude.	09:30
johann787	ok thanks	09:30
ardchoille	spitfire: And, fwiw, mine is at: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so	09:30
ardchoille	spitfire: But I installed from the repos	09:30
etfb	johann787: also check out the Add and Remove Programs option in your menu	09:30
spitfire	PRAISE THE LORD ... finally all because of the capital D	09:31
spitfire	thank guys	09:31
etfb	spitfire: unix is case sensitive, because it makes it easier to cause people pain. (Come on, you know that's the only explanation that fits the facts.)	09:31
johann787	how about CPAN is it configured or do I have to configure something ?	09:31
atwo1	if i have kubuntu installed on the pc, and i boot from the cd how do i copy the x.org from the cd to the hdd of the computer it's loaded on?	09:31
atwo1	i mean that	09:31
atwo1	whatever that main file is	09:31
atwo1	i changed some settnig and i want to just replace whatever the main file is on the hdd as whats on the cd	09:32
atwo1	its a fresh install	09:32
atwo1	and the graphics driver getting enabled in 'restricted drivers' kills it	09:32
atwo1	so it doesnt even recognise the screen is there	09:32
etfb	atwo1: gotcha! I suggest booting to a text login (Alt+F1 will let you do that if you're not there already) and then use the dpkg-reconfigure command. Let me check the syntax...	09:33
atwo1	it was a fresh install, all i did was what the thing suggests	09:33
atwo1	!nvidia	09:33
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	09:33
atwo1	and enable the nvidia thing in restricted drivers	09:33
atwo1	but it kills eveyrthing	09:34
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etfb	atwo1: I don't trust those restricted drivers. I think they're the reason I don't have wifi any more...	09:34
atwo1	well whatever it was it totally fkd my system	09:34
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etfb	johann787: not sure about CPAN. IF you have Perl installed, presumably it includes packages for handling CPAN. Check the FAQs on their website.	09:35
atwo1	but i can't get the native res to work without a big 200px blank spot on the left side	09:35
atwo1	squishing the screen over	09:35
atwo1	look im ready to just reinstall the whole OS atm	09:35
atwo1	for the 2nd time thnis afternoon	09:35
etfb	google for "xorg.conf" and the numbers of your resolution, eg 1280 800 or whatever	09:35
etfb	That's how I fixed that problem.	09:35
etfb	Don't recall the details now, but... there is no god but Google!	09:36
atwo1	anyway	09:36
atwo1	how do i reinstall x.org	09:36
atwo1	or whatever	09:36
atwo1	someone said mount the drive	09:36
atwo1	and copy it from the disc to it	09:36
atwo1	or something	09:36
atwo1	im totally noob i just got gutsy this week	09:36
atwo1	and have never used linux before	09:36
etfb	atwo1: the CD should automount in Ubuntu, so ignore that advice. I'm checking the reconfig syntax now...	09:36
etfb	atwo1: try doing this from a konsole: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	09:38
atwo1	but its loaded on the disc at the moment	09:38
etfb	Choose the defaults, except for the driver that stuffed up (pick vesa instead for that, perhaps)	09:38
atwo1	but its loaded on the disc at the moment i can't get onto the hdd its installed on	09:39
etfb	atwo1: ??? I'm exhausted after a long week and really not following you. Can you rephrase that for my tired brain?	09:39
Sulo_Seppa	Well, that's nice. First off, the live dvd didn't work for graphics unless I put noapic and other stuff, and second, it didn't have the wireless drivers.. I thought that kinda stuff was added in 7.10. How am I expected to connect to the internet if I need to download the drivers from the internet?	09:39
atwo1	ok the story is.......	09:40
etfb	Sulo_Seppa: I sympathise; I'm having hell with wifi drivers too. Mind you, it's mostly self-inflicted in my case...	09:40
atwo1	i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything	09:40
atwo1	im abuot to reinstall	09:40
Sulo_Seppa	etfb: how so?	09:42
etfb	atwo1: what happens if you press Ctrl+Alt+F1? (press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the X window if necessary)	09:42
atwo1	from what	09:42
atwo1	when i restart the screen comes to a blank black screen	09:42
atwo1	but i can type in text	09:42
atwo1	that does nothing	09:42
Sulo_Seppa	And I can get wifi working pretty easily, so why the _hell_ is it not included in ubuntu?	09:42
etfb	Sulo_Seppa: I uninstalled knetworkmanager and can't get it back. Wifi is included, but your installation may have stuffed up.	09:43
etfb	atwo1: just try it from there. Either it does something or it doesn't.	09:43
atwo1	oi	09:43
atwo1	that screen u told me to go to	09:43
atwo1	the ctrl alt f1	09:43
atwo1	thats what the screen looks like when i reboot after the above changes	09:43
atwo1	can i use a shortcut there to make somethnig happen	09:44
etfb	Press enter and see if you get a login prompt	09:44
Sulo_Seppa	What? No, I need the drivers, I mean why the hell doesn't ubuntu come with wireless drivers?	09:44
atwo1	wait	09:44
atwo1	im restarting	09:44
etfb	Sulo_Seppa: what hardware are you on (brand, model, wireless card, etc)	09:45
atwo1	i restatr and it gets to this blank screen	09:45
atwo1	with no prompt	09:45
etfb	atwo1: try Ctrl+Alt+F2 and tell me what you see	09:45
Sulo_Seppa	HP Pavilion dv9628nr Broadcom	09:45
atwo1	OH MY FKING GOD	09:45
atwo1	A LOGIN	09:45
etfb	Sulo_Seppa: googling now... please wait...	09:45
atwo1	IM LOGGED IN OMFG	09:46
atwo1	so thats what that useless screen is for	09:46
Sulo_Seppa	etfb: I know how to set it up	09:46
atwo1	jwasuas	09:46
atwo1	etfb: u just saved me so much	09:46
etfb	atwo1: Aha! Thank Google! Now do the dpkg thingy.	09:46
atwo1	now how do i make crapbuntu work	09:46
atwo1	load the kde	09:46
atwo1	and main everything	09:46
Sulo_Seppa	etfb: It's just insane, because most wireless cards in laptops that I've seen are brodcom and intel (which is supported, obviously).	09:47
atwo1	what do i type to load the KDE	09:47
Sulo_Seppa	startx	09:47
atwo1	i did that	09:48
Sulo_Seppa	atwo1: what is your problem though?	09:48
atwo1	it said	09:48
atwo1	XIO	09:48
atwo1	fatal IO error 104	09:48
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atwo1	connection reset by peer on X server ":0.0"	09:48
Sulo_Seppa	Heh, you screwed up x?	09:48
etfb	atwo1: do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command and go through the resetting of the windows system. It _should_ fix all your problems.	09:48
atwo1	all i did	09:48
atwo1	i installed kubuntu, the res is completely rooted in native. it's meant to be 1440x900 but using that forces the left edge of the screen inwards horizontally by about 200px. i enter the restricted drivers and turn on the nvidia detection and on restart it screws everything	09:48
atwo1	then	09:48
atwo1	i get this blank screen	09:48
atwo1	i ctrl alt f2	09:48
atwo1	and login	09:48
atwo1	type startx	09:48
atwo1	and get what i just said	09:48
Sulo_Seppa	oh	09:49
Sulo_Seppa	okay	09:49
Sulo_Seppa	well do you know how to use vim?	09:49
atwo1	i dont know anything i've had a linux system for 2 days	09:49
atwo1	and its given me shit the whole time	09:49
Sulo_Seppa	okay then use nano	09:49
atwo1	use what	09:49
Sulo_Seppa	let me try and explain..	09:49
atwo1	im in some black screen	09:49
atwo1	how do i get to desktop	09:49
Sulo_Seppa	okay, in the terminal type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf	09:49
atwo1	now what	09:50
Sulo_Seppa	Go down do where you see something like Device "nVidia" and change it to nv	09:50
atwo1	it says	09:50
llutz	Sulo_Seppa: "Driver" "nvidia" not Device	09:50
atwo1	Device 'nvidia coporation nv24 [ngeforece fx 5500]	09:50
atwo1	which is my card	09:50
etfb	(I'll leave you two to it, since you're probably on the way now. I'm popping over to #ubuntu to see if anyone there can help me...)	09:51
Sulo_Seppa	okay	09:51
atwo1	under what part is that	09:51
Sulo_Seppa	1sec	09:51
llutz	Section "Device"	09:52
llutz	"Driver" "nvidia"	09:52
llutz	change into "Driver" "nv"	09:52
Sulo_Seppa	yeah	09:52
atwo1	how do i save it	09:52
Sulo_Seppa	alt-x to exit then it asks to save I think	09:53
atwo1	no that made help mode disabled	09:53
Sulo_Seppa	ctrl-x	09:53
atwo1	ok	09:53
atwo1	saved	09:53
atwo1	and i typed startx	09:53
vbgunz	when partitioning a disk, isn't there a way to say not to automatically allocate 6% of the drive or something? I just formatted a 80GB hard disk, I got 75 out of it. with kubuntu insisting on taking 6% of space, I now only have 71GB of space... anyone know how to resize that 6%?	09:53
atwo1	it's not 6%	09:53
atwo1	finally, desktop is loaded	09:54
vbgunz	my system backup is 73GB, I cannot trim it anymore :(	09:54
StevenR	vbgunz: 80GB? 80GiB ?	09:54
Sulo_Seppa	You want to remove the tables? good luck with that lol	09:54
waltercool_eee	exist a method for know the cpu temp??	09:54
sub[t]rnl	/quit	09:54
StevenR	waltercool_eee: lm_sensors	09:55
sub[t]rnl	woops	09:55
Sulo_Seppa	acpi -P	09:55
atwo1	ok	09:55
atwo1	Sulo_Seppa: now my res is screwed how can i fix it without that restricted driver	09:55
llutz	vbgunz: ext3? use tune2fs	09:55
waltercool_eee	StevenR: but i /proc?	09:55
Sulo_Seppa	Without the driver? I dunno	09:55
atwo1	how can i force 1440x900 cover the whole scvreen instead of squishing the left side inwards by 200px	09:55
waltercool_eee	in	09:56
vbgunz	StevenR: it's pitched as an 80GB hard drive, looking at the label, it says 82.3GB. after formatting, the total size is 75GB, Kubuntu is taking up 6% and its leaving me with 71GB. my backup is 73GB :(	09:56
Sulo_Seppa	waltercool_eee: acpi -P	09:56
Sulo_Seppa	atwo1: Well..	09:56
atwo1	its in native res now	09:57
atwo1	but the left is shoved over	09:57
waltercool_eee	Sulo_Seppa: Wow... thanks!! :P	09:57
Sulo_Seppa	atwo1: if you really want to, then edit that xorg.conf file again and add the resolution you want with all of the other ones. it should be pretty obvious, but make sure to back it up	09:57
llutz	vbgunz: man tune2fs (-m)	09:57
atwo1	its in the native res, it pushes the left side over for some reason	09:57
atwo1	its covernig 15% of the screen as a thicxk vertical black strip	09:57
Sulo_Seppa	Oh	09:57
atwo1	oi	09:58
atwo1	ok	09:58
atwo1	i typed	09:58
atwo1	alt ctrl backspc	09:58
atwo1	it does	09:58
Sulo_Seppa	Heh	09:58
atwo1	xinit: connection to x server lost	09:58
atwo1	then a prompt	09:58
atwo1	then i have to type startx	09:58
atwo1	man im reinstalling	09:58
Sulo_Seppa	ctrl+alt+backspace logs you out	09:58
atwo1	and just not using that shit restricted thing	09:58
atwo1	it jstu kills it	09:59
vbgunz	llutz: without a walkthrough, that man will take me quite a while to understand :( do you know of a walkthrough using tune2fs that addresses the 6% issue?	09:59
StevenR	vbgunz: what is this 6% ?	09:59
vbgunz	I found one once, I never thought I would need it. now I want to take a backup off site and am 2GB greater than the target :(	09:59
llutz	vbgunz: set it to 2%: sudo tune2fs -m 2 /dev/sdXY	09:59
vbgunz	llutz: I'll try	10:00
vbgunz	let me check man on -m	10:00
Sulo_Seppa	atwo1: reinstalling ubuntu?	10:01
llutz	<- not resonsible for data-loss	10:01
atwo1	kubuntu	10:01
atwo1	yes	10:01
vbgunz	reserved-blocks-percentage, default is 5%... konqueror reported it as 6%	10:01
atwo1	god i can't believe its so easy to completely screw this kubuntu os	10:01
Sulo_Seppa	atwo1: if you want you can go with arch :p	10:01
atwo1	all i do is tick 1 box and it doesn't even load	10:01
llutz	vbgunz: they may have used a different value when creating the fs	10:01
atwo1	it can't even snap the res to the size of the monitor	10:01
atwo1	why am i even bothering with it	10:01
atwo1	stressing and trying to figure it out when it can't even work out what res to use correctly when it's already turned on	10:02
atwo1	w t f	10:02
spitfire	hi all, is there DVD player ready with all the plugins, i cant play DVD's	10:02
ardchoille	!wtf \| atwo1	10:02
ubotu	atwo1: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	10:02
atwo1	sigh	10:02
atwo1	ardchoille: do u just watch the channel all day waiting for someone to swear	10:02
vbgunz	llutz: one quetion, /dev/sdc OR /dev/sdc1?	10:02
atwo1	so you can enter triggers	10:02
Sulo_Seppa	spitfire: get mplayer and the dvd restricted stuff	10:03
llutz	vbgunz: sdc1, partition not coplete disk	10:03
llutz	+m	10:03
spitfire	i read it on the internet, but i didnt understand how to go about it	10:03
vbgunz	llutz: well, the disk is fresh, no problem wrecking it :)	10:03
vbgunz	I'll try	10:03
llutz	spitfire: add medibuntu-repo and install libdvdcss2	10:03
johann787	Hi, I reinstalled ubuntur with the user tester and password tester but I´m unable to do a sudo , Im thinking of going to another OS this sucks, is there anyway I can bypass this ????	10:03
spitfire	llutz: can i use apt-get for both?	10:04
johann787	the user tester is not in the sudoers list , this insident wil be repoted , and the I get a sendmail error	10:04
llutz	spitfire: not to add the repo	10:04
Sulo_Seppa	spitfire: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#CD.2FDVD	10:04
johann787	I´m using the server version of ubuntu	10:06
spitfire	llutz:	10:06
spitfire	E: Type '“deb' is not known on line 78 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list	10:06
spitfire	E: The list of sources could not be read.	10:06
spitfire	:S	10:06
spitfire	Sulo_Seppa: sorry that was for you	10:06
vbgunz	llutz: very sweet!	10:07
llutz	spitfire: "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free" <- entry	10:07
llutz	vbgunz: did it work?	10:07
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vbgunz	74.5GB, not I can squeeze 73 in just fine and take it off site :)	10:07
vbgunz	s/not/now	10:07
vbgunz	llutz: excellent tip, plenty thanks!	10:07
llutz	welcome	10:07
=== ittc__ is now known as jilws
jilws	hi	10:08
spitfire	sigh, watever man, i have no idea whats going on, thanks anyway	10:08
llutz	vbgunz: xmas coming soon, time for new, bigger HDDs	10:08
jilws	care to chat	10:09
vzduch	spitfire: syntax error.. did you paste the "" as well?	10:09
vzduch	these have nothing to do in there	10:09
spitfire	llutz: someone told me to do this echo deb http://www.getautomatix.com/apt dapper main \| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list	10:10
jilws	guy	10:10
jilws	guyz	10:10
spitfire	i did it, but nothing happened	10:10
llutz	bah no automatix!	10:10
ardchoille	spitfire: Please do not use automatix	10:10
spitfire	wow ok	10:10
spitfire	lol	10:10
ardchoille	!automatix	10:10
ubotu	automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »	10:10
vbgunz	llutz: I have over 600GB in the box, 71GB is ill recoverable if something bad happened	10:11
llutz	spitfire: you are still on dapper?	10:11
spitfire	ok i wont, but when i look at the list that you showed me, i didnt understand ****	10:11
ardchoille	spitfire: Please make sure automatix is not in your sources.list	10:11
hagabaka	has flash player stopped working for anyone?	10:11
hagabaka	in konqueror	10:11
llutz	spitfire: paste your sources.list to pastebin please	10:11
spitfire	so wait... i open konsole	10:11
llutz	!pastebin	10:11
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	10:11
tt_	hi	10:12
jilws	hi tt	10:12
tt_	anyone could tell me how to set gcc flags?	10:12
atwo1	!gcc	10:12
ubotu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	10:12
tt_	lol thats not my answer but thanks ;)	10:12
atwo1	heh	10:12
atwo1	!gccflags	10:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gccflags - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi	10:13
atwo1	lulx	10:13
jilws	what up	10:13
tt_	i was trying to find the file make.conf (like in gentoo) so i have onnly to set flags their and it do the rest for me	10:13
tt_	but it seems like i cant find it in kubuntu	10:13
=== spitfire is now known as stupidDood
johann787	anyone know why I get the sudo error after install ?	10:13
tt_	sudo error?	10:14
jilws	anyone have nba live 2008?	10:14
jrsims	How can I get my terminal to be transparent?	10:14
jrsims	and is there a compositor for kde?	10:14
tt_	go to system -> Admin -> Users and reset your password by ur hand	10:14
johann787	sudo passwd root -> Error: the user tester is not on the sudoers list, even if he is in the adm group	10:14
jrsims	I like drop shadows behind my windows	10:14
ardchoille	jilws: This is a support channel for kubuntu. You are welcome to join #kubuntu-offtopic for off-topic chat :)	10:14
ianJ	you would need to use the rescue disk and groups id test the user and groupadd for that user	10:15
johann787	tt_: I´m not in graphical mode	10:15
tt_	oh	10:15
jilws	can ask?	10:15
tt_	too bad , i dont use shell/bash commands too much :S , so i cant help you in this	10:15
tt_	but its somethings in the users mangrs (as i guess)	10:16
stupidDood	llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48182/	10:16
johann787	tt_: do you know how to start the x mode ?	10:16
jilws	how can i install ah windows office in kubuntu	10:16
tt_	startx , gdm or somethings	10:16
johann787	tt_: ok thx	10:16
tt_	np :) (i hope its correct)	10:16
ardchoille	stupidDood: Can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please?	10:17
llutz	stupidDood: your actual sources.list pls	10:17
ardchoille	!pastebin	10:17
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	10:17
Frieza	hello adept had a crash and is read only how to fix?	10:17
ardchoille	stupidDood: Good thing you misspelled automatix :)	10:17
ardchoille	!adeptfix \| Frieza	10:18
ubotu	Frieza: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »	10:18
Jay-Oh-En	how do i create a PDF	10:19
stupidDood	llutz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48183/	10:19
sub[t]rnl	Jay-Oh-En: open office can make them	10:20
Jay-Oh-En	k then ill try	10:20
llutz	stupidDood: make the end looking like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/48184/	10:20
Jay-Oh-En	how do i installl open office?	10:20
Frieza	and how can you clean the kubuntu installation ? because i only have 300 mb over from the 4 gb	10:20
Jay-Oh-En	sub[t]rnl: my open office got deleted	10:20
Jay-Oh-En	:[	10:21
llutz	stupidDood: delete the two automatix-lines, and add the medibuntu	10:21
ardchoille	stupidDood: You're also going to need to add the repo key if you plan to use the medibuntu repo	10:21
ardchoille	!medibuntu \| stupidDood	10:22
ubotu	stupidDood: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	10:22
sirjoshimus	how do you read a .lit file?	10:22
llutz	sirjoshimus: ask microsoft ;)	10:23
sub[t]rnl	Frieza: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean might help a bit	10:23
sirjoshimus	llutz: i got a bunch of ebooks and don't know how to open them	10:24
stupidDood	llutz: its not saving after i add the file in the source list	10:24
sirjoshimus	llutz: i felt m$ was the culpit, by gad	10:24
llutz	sirjoshimus: its a proprietary ms-format	10:24
stupidDood	line not file sorry	10:24
sirjoshimus	llutz: i see	10:25
llutz	sirjoshimus: google convertlit	10:25
sirjoshimus	llutz: openoffice and kwrite wont read them	10:25
atwo1	man	10:25
atwo1	this OS	10:25
atwo1	kubuntu	10:25
atwo1	i've reinstalled like 3 times already	10:25
atwo1	i have no idea why people use it	10:25
sirjoshimus	atwo1: whats your boggle	10:25
llutz	stupidDood: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list then change the file and save, you need root-rights	10:25
atwo1	a simple operation of setting the resolution to be native and not have a 200px black gap on the left side that squashes the screen over	10:26
Jay-Oh-En	i just installed open office and now it looks ugly	10:27
atwo1	hi jon	10:28
llutz	ugly as hell or ugly as gtk?	10:28
Jay-Oh-En	atwo1: lol	10:28
Jay-Oh-En	llutz: like its grey and big fonts	10:28
sirjoshimus	atwo1: press the auto button on your monitor	10:29
atwo1	it doesn't work its some other issue	10:29
stupidDood	llutz: done that	10:29
sirjoshimus	atwo1: then my sympathies	10:29
sirjoshimus	atwo1: what OS were you using before kubuntu	10:29
llutz	stupidDood: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3	10:29
atwo1	windows on this box	10:30
atwo1	xp	10:30
ardchoille	stupidDood: Did you add the medibuntu repo key like i suggested?	10:30
atwo1	but kub is installing on ther now	10:30
atwo1	im reinstalling	10:30
stupidDood	llutz: shall i install without verification or with	10:30
llutz	stupidDood: without or add the repo-key before like ardchoille suggested	10:31
ardchoille	stupidDood: Adding the medibuntu key will fix that verification problem ;)	10:31
sirjoshimus	atwo1: so you're saying its just the black space that happens?	10:31
llutz	ardchoille: he ignores you :)	10:31
sub[t]rnl	heh	10:31
sirjoshimus	and your monitor auto center isnt working?	10:31
ardchoille	llutz: Ah, ok	10:32
stupidDood	llutz: ok now what?	10:32
Jay-Oh-En	this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix	10:32
llutz	stupidDood: installation completed?	10:33
stupidDood	Processing triggers for libc6 ...	10:33
stupidDood	ldconfig deferred processing now taking place	10:33
stupidDood	spitfire@Sonic:~$	10:33
stupidDood	llutz: i guess	10:33
sirjoshimus	llutz: thanks for the help, im converting them	10:35
llutz	fine, play dvds and add that fr...ng repo key as described on www.medibuntu.org	10:36
llutz	stupidDood: ^^	10:37
llutz	stupidDood: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update	10:38
Jay-Oh-En	this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix	10:39
* stupidDood is crying, done all that and still wont play DVD's		10:40
llutz	stupidDood: which app, kaffeine?	10:40
stupidDood	yea	10:41
stupidDood	llutz: says no plugin to handle this something something	10:41
llutz	!dvd	10:41
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	10:41
atwo1	oi	10:43
atwo1	where is that resolv.conf thing	10:43
atwo1	?	10:44
atwo1	kdesu kate somethinsomethnig/resolv.conf	10:44
atwo1	??????¿????	10:45
atwo1	anyone	10:46
atwo1	PLZ SOMEONE	10:48
atwo1	where is resolv.conf i have to add a nameserevr in it	10:49
atwo1	never mind	10:51
atwo1	i found itttttttt	10:51
poison--	morning guys	10:56
atwo1	N\/h	10:56
atwo1	hi*	10:56
Jay-Oh-En	this is the problem im having http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93286 but it doesnt state the fix	10:56
atwo1	oi	10:58
atwo1	[08:56pm] <atwo1> N\/h	10:58
atwo1	[08:56pm] <atwo1> hi*	10:58
atwo1	LOL	10:58
Jay-Oh-En	wow where do you live	10:58
Jay-Oh-En	its 2:56 in the morning here	10:58
romunov	noon here	10:58
atwo1	australia	10:58
Jay-Oh-En	dang	10:59
Jay-Oh-En	i live in las vegas	10:59
atwo1	omfg	10:59
atwo1	do u gamble constantly	10:59
romunov	i'm from europe :>	10:59
Jay-Oh-En	no	10:59
atwo1	oi	10:59
atwo1	are u near hungary	10:59
romunov	werent there some school shootings in vegas recently?	10:59
=== desti_T2 is now known as desti
atwo1	i want a hungarian wife	10:59
romunov	neighboring country, as a matter of fact	10:59
Jay-Oh-En	romunov: yes	10:59
atwo1	they're all so fkin delicious	10:59
romunov	brides.hu? :>	10:59
atwo1	LOl	11:00
Jay-Oh-En	brides.ru	11:00
romunov	women are the same no matter where you go	11:00
romunov	oh, except japan.. i hear	11:00
Jay-Oh-En	omfg japanies girls are bomb	11:00
atwo1	no	11:00
atwo1	wait	11:00
atwo1	hungary	11:00
Jay-Oh-En	omfg "Japanese" girls are bomb	11:00
atwo1	have u seen sophie moone	11:00
romunov	i was thinking in terms of a different culture	11:00
atwo1	and sandy whatstername	11:00
atwo1	wait up wait up	11:00
atwo1	hungary > *	11:01
atwo1	i'm <i>hungary</i> for those girls LUL	11:01
romunov	and how old are you?	11:01
Jay-Oh-En	mexico = dirt	11:01
atwo1	mexico	11:01
atwo1	= how chicks with black hair and tanned skin	11:01
=== nunom is now known as nfma
Jay-Oh-En	africa = dirt/AIDs	11:01
romunov	and i'm telling you, they're all the same	11:02
Riddell	atwo1, Jay-Oh-En: lets stop this now	11:02
romunov	everywhere they want half :>	11:02
Jay-Oh-En	ok	11:02
romunov	(reminiscent of eddy murphy's standup gig)	11:02
Jay-Oh-En	sorry Riddell :D	11:02
poison--	!offtopic	11:03
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	11:03
=== iSchnee is now known as Schneeflocke
atwo1	ease up	11:03
atwo1	it was a 5 second deviation	11:03
atwo1	:>	11:03
atwo1	god	11:03
atwo1	im so drunk/smashed already	11:03
atwo1	it's been such along week	11:03
atwo1	im sick of working	11:03
atwo1	wait	11:03
atwo1	lets go	11:03
atwo1	!ot	11:03
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	11:03
=== hardyd is now known as hardyd_
ricanelite	for some reason i cannot get amarok running right, i just installed Kubuntu and when i installed amarok it opens very slow and runs slow	11:33
ricanelite	i just removed it, should i restart my pc and then try to install it amarok again?	11:33
Stevethepirate	ricanelite: you ever used Amarok before?	11:33
ricanelite	no	11:34
Stevethepirate	Hmm.	11:34
Stevethepirate	When you say "runs slow" what you mean?	11:34
Stevethepirate	Like when you try play a song?	11:34
Stevethepirate	Or in general?	11:34
ricanelite	well just opening up	11:34
ricanelite	well yeah in general	11:35
ricanelite	like now it crashed and took forever to close it up	11:35
Stevethepirate	How much RAM you got?	11:35
Stevethepirate	And CPU?	11:35
ricanelite	2 gig of ram	11:35
ricanelite	dual core pentium 2.0ghz	11:35
Stevethepirate	Hmm. I have similar	11:35
Stevethepirate	but 4 gigs ram, and 2.4 ghz CPU :P	11:35
Stevethepirate	um. okay.	11:35
ricanelite	yeah i will upgrading my ram in the next few weeks	11:36
Stevethepirate	rm -rf ~/.amarok	11:36
Stevethepirate	sudo apt-get remove amarok	11:36
Stevethepirate	sudo apt-get install amarok	11:36
Stevethepirate	Go into it.	11:36
Stevethepirate	See again.	11:36
Kohlrabi	actually amarok doesn't need 4 gigs :)	11:36
Stevethepirate	No, seriously, shame that i bought the extra 3 gigs -just- for amarok	11:37
grandi	it doesn't?	11:37
atwo1	oi	11:37
atwo1	my res is screwed	11:37
atwo1	its on native res	11:37
atwo1	and the left side is squished over by abnuot 200 px	11:37
Stevethepirate	Kohlrabi: its quite obvious. I've used amarok on my 64 meg RAM p2...	11:37
Kohlrabi	yeah	11:37
Stevethepirate	atwo1: adjust the screen	11:37
atwo1	LOL	11:37
atwo1	that doesnt work man	11:37
atwo1	SRSLY	11:37
atwo1	its some drive fk up	11:37
Stevethepirate	or, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	11:38
Kohlrabi	Stevethepirate: I wasn't the one going to upgrade his RAM :P	11:38
Stevethepirate	I was just asking	11:39
Stevethepirate	I've had people asking why their PC runs slow	11:39
Stevethepirate	and its like 256 meg /ram	11:39
Kohlrabi	ugh	11:39
Kohlrabi	OK :)	11:39
Stevethepirate	running like apache servers, tinyproxy, and liek 100 services	11:39
Kohlrabi	still, you could use amrok just fine, if you confi..	11:39
Kohlrabi	yeah, OK :)	11:39
grandi	well my firefox runs slow	11:41
grandi	i think some update messed someting up	11:41
dansko	Hi	11:47
dansko	can someone help me?	11:47
luke_	with what?	11:47
dansko	i got a problem	11:47
dansko	i used opensuse first	11:47
Tw\|sT	Atleast it's just firefox running slow, and not a distribution upgrade gone wrong... A few weeks ago, I came in from work exhausted, not thinking, and ran the Kubuntu Dist. upgrade via synaptic... it worked... at first... but 1/3 way thru the upgrade, it bricked! I ended up having to backup everything I could via tarballing the directories, and had to reinstall... so I upgraded that way instead	11:47
dansko	but i tried kubuntu now	11:47
dansko	but the problem is, theres a lot diffrent from opensuse	11:48
dansko	i want to install programs like compiz fusion and the themes and stuff	11:48
luke_	right	11:48
dansko	but i can only install compiz manager	11:48
luke_	you use apt	11:48
luke_	or adept manager	11:48
dansko	ye i tried	11:48
dansko	but theres a lot less software then opensuse	11:48
Tw\|sT	have you installed synaptic	11:48
dansko	or can i add repositories?	11:48
luke_	yes you can	11:48
luke_	sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	11:49
Tw\|sT	'sudo apt-get install synaptic'	11:49
luke_	add repos to that	11:49
dansko	oke where can i find a list with all repositories?	11:49
luke_	I don't think there is one :)	11:49
luke_	there is one for Compiz Fusion	11:49
dansko	lolz, where i find the repos then?	11:49
dansko	yes but i want community repos	11:49
dansko	with lots of craps :P	11:49
Tw\|sT	search google: Kubuntu Apt repos	11:49
dansko	oki	11:50
dansko	ty	11:50
Tw\|sT	;)	11:50
Tw\|sT	np	11:50
luke_	and enable universe and multiverse repos in sources.list	11:50
Tw\|sT	absolutely	11:50
dansko	sorry, im not familiar with text mode and console	11:51
dansko	u just used windowmanager	11:51
Tw\|sT	you'd like synaptic, alot , I think. it's totally graphical	11:51
luke_	That's Gnome isn't it?	11:51
dansko	i dont know, i just use kde	11:51
luke_	use Adept Manager	11:51
Tw\|sT	it works regardless	11:51
luke_	:)	11:51
dansko	can i ask you something	11:52
luke_	I don't like Gnome	11:52
luke_	yes	11:52
dansko	me neither	11:52
Tw\|sT	I don't either	11:52
Tw\|sT	sure	11:52
dansko	is kubuntu really the most popular distro?	11:52
dansko	and user friendly?	11:52
luke_	yes	11:52
dansko	lolz oke	11:52
luke_	It has been for me anyway :)	11:52
dansko	i think i REALLY REALLY REALLY need to get used to kubuntu	11:52
dansko	cuz im like holy crap wtf is this	11:52
Tw\|sT	last I remember, it was... but check http://distrowatch.com	11:52
dansko	ok, i used opensuse before, and i liked it alot	11:52
luke_	hehe	11:52
dansko	lots of software and stuff	11:52
johann787	I found out how to enable the root account in the server version Its rather simple and should be documented	11:53
dansko	yes i used that	11:53
luke_	I don't really like SuSE	11:53
dansko	why not?:)	11:53
johann787	boot the cd again and choose rescue	11:53
ardchoille	johann787: They don't want it documented	11:53
johann787	ask for a command shell and change the password for root	11:53
luke_	It's really confusing	11:53
Tw\|sT	personally, and I've used many distros, Kubuntu has been the most friendly distro I've used since 1997	11:53
dansko	why's that?	11:53
ardchoille	johann787: Please don't post that here, it's neither recommended nor necessary	11:54
dansko	ok, well i like kubuntu alot especially its very fast i think	11:54
johann787	If I´m setting up a server I want to enebla the root acount , but if im setting up a desktop machine the sudo is fine	11:54
dansko	but i need to get used to all the functions	11:54
luke_	indeed	11:54
ardchoille	johann787: That's fine for your server, but we should follow recommended and supported procedure when advising others.	11:54
dansko	do you think there's more software available to (k)ubuntu than for SuseA?	11:54
dansko	-a	11:55
johann787	Well you need to know about the sudo BUG in the 7.10, I´m unable to do a sudo when I´m finished installing	11:55
Tw\|sT	best bet... if you want root active, don't use Kubuntu, or Ubuntu... use Debian 4.0r1 instead. It's more designed for hackers/programmers	11:55
luke_	dansko: there is the same ammount	11:55
Tw\|sT	have you tried using 'sudu su' ?	11:55
dansko	ohyeah, its universal aint it?	11:55
Tw\|sT	yup	11:55
dansko	so if i want to use repos from suse i can use them on kubu?	11:56
dansko	for exampl	11:56
Tw\|sT	negative	11:56
dansko	e	11:56
dansko	i thought so	11:56
Tw\|sT	the packages are compiled differently	11:56
luke_	you can use alien	11:56
luke_	but it doesn't always work	11:56
Tw\|sT	suse uses RPMs, like Fedora/RHEL	11:56
ardchoille	Use of alien is also not recommended.	11:56
dansko	ok	11:56
ardchoille	!alien	11:56
ubotu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)	11:56
Tw\|sT	Kubuntu uses DEB packages, like debian	11:57
dansko	aha ok :)	11:57
luke_	you can always complie it	11:57
dansko	yes but i think compiling is a risk	11:57
Tw\|sT	now, you can use Debian packages natively	11:57
dansko	i dont even know what it means exactly ;p	11:57
Kohlrabi	dansko: why?	11:57
Kohlrabi	It just takes ages	11:57
dansko	cuz last time u needed to enable xgl	11:57
Kohlrabi	When you need to compile every app	11:58
luke_	I think not	11:58
Tw\|sT	I've had no probs compiling from source, other than getting the dev environment together in the first place...	11:58
dansko	i used this command: gnome-xgl-switch --enable-xgl and i forgot one -	11:58
dansko	my pc wouldnt boot anymore :P thats only a command	11:58
Tw\|sT	the problem was that there is no meta-package for it	11:58
dansko	when i try to compile amsn the computer trips like hell	11:58
Tw\|sT	so, ya gotta know what you need.	11:58
Kohlrabi	dansko: maybe just x wasn't starting?	11:58
dansko	i dont know, im a newbie to linu	11:58
dansko	x	11:58
Kohlrabi	ok :)	11:59
dansko	:p	11:59
dansko	ima find some repos	11:59
dansko	ty for help :)	11:59
luke_	:)	11:59
Tw\|sT	that's one area where I've found that Fedora's package system was better thought out... but, all distros are constantly improving, and I expect that that will be remedied soon enough... ppl just have to request it and it'll eventually happen	11:59
Tw\|sT	but, that said, I sucessfully installed a good dev environment, enough to compile UnrealIRCD, espernet IRC services, and bopm onto a Athlon 64 3000+ running Kubuntu 7.10-x64	12:02
Tw\|sT	it's been running flawlessly now for about 6 weeks on that installation.	12:02
Tw\|sT	though, I do have one complaint... but it's with another vendor... UltraVNC should be ported to Linux. I say that because it's got the best security model of any VNC server that I've used since VNC arrived on the scene	12:04
Kohlrabi	the good thing is that you can "apt-get build-dep" for packages which are present in apt	12:04
Kohlrabi	I didn't knew that a while back, gave me headaches compiling mplayer-SVN :)	12:04
* Tw\|sT works on his Linux & Windows Servers remotely, most of the time, using Xming to make a XDCMP connection to the Xserver itself.		12:05
Tw\|sT	(rather, uses UltraVNC for windows servers, and Xming for Linux)	12:05
Tw\|sT	Synaptic, which is a front end for apt, has that option (build-dep). It also has an option that auto adds recommended packages as if they were deps. This is really handy.	12:08
Tw\|sT	btw, synaptic is multi platform. I started using it on Red Hat 8.0-psyche, and have used it on every distro since. On a few of them, I did have to add repos (found them via a google search), but overall it's been the best package manager that I've found	12:10
Kohlrabi	wasn't synaptic the GNOME-pendant to adept? :)	12:11
ardchoille	Kohlrabi: most gnome apps can run quite well in kde and vice-versa	12:12
Tw\|sT	I'm not sure that it's gnome dependent, but then again, I always install support for gnome apps. Thing is, I do that only so that I can run gnome apps within KDE	12:12
atwo1	wtf just happened	12:12
Tw\|sT	right	12:12
ardchoille	atwo1: Please watch your language in this channel. You have been given several reminders.	12:12
atwo1	Jay-Oh-En: oi	12:14
atwo1	talk here so he shuts up	12:14
atwo1	Jay-Oh-En: oi	12:15
Jay-Oh-En	atwo1: pastebin.com	12:15
Jay-Oh-En	oi?	12:15
atwo1	wait up	12:15
gnu	hi	12:15
atwo1	god what a tosser	12:16
Jay-Oh-En	seriously	12:16
Jay-Oh-En	omg	12:16
Jay-Oh-En	he needs a nap	12:17
aone	http://pastebin.com/d44dbde48	12:17
=== atwo1 is now known as atwo
Jay-Oh-En	so atwo	12:17
atwo	there	12:17
atwo	^	12:17
Tw\|sT	anyways, as soon as I install Kubuntu, I open Konsole, and run 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'. After Synaptic is installed, I install the two meta packages 'KDE' & 'gnome'. This installs all the base packages for both environments. From there, you can install anything else you need with a much higher level of success of it working.	12:18
Mez	atwo, don't make me ban you here too	12:18
atwo	Mez: leave me alone please i'm working on this issue, thx	12:18
Mez	atwo, then stop making personal attacks against members of the community	12:18
atwo	i'm not making personal anythnig on anyone im trying to talk to jay oh en	12:18
atwo	you're just hassling me	12:18
atwo	and im not even talking to u in here	12:19
atwo	Jay-Oh-En: any idea?	12:19
atwo	on what to change to make it work	12:19
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: yes	12:19
atwo	it's on native res atm	12:19
atwo	but it pushes the left side over	12:19
dansko	hi im back again	12:19
atwo	for some odd reason	12:19
crush_groove	Tw\|sT, / what are meta packages ?	12:19
Tw\|sT	I have an idea... use a query chat.	12:19
Mez	atwo, I believe calling me a tosser is consdered an attack	12:19
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: ill edit your xorg	12:19
dansko	twist can you help me again for a sec?	12:19
Tw\|sT	crush_groove: meta-packages are compound packages that link to several subpackages.	12:19
Tw\|sT	basically, they install suites of applications	12:20
* Tw\|sT is about out of time... and has to get ready for work		12:20
atwo	Jay-Oh-En: ok	12:20
Tw\|sT	dansko: I'll send you my email address, and will help out as possible as time allows.	12:20
dansko	ok that would be great	12:21
kubu	question.. the universe repo is not included on the dvd right? only main and restricted?	12:21
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: ok i edited it	12:21
Jay-Oh-En	http://pastebin.com/m27ff289b	12:21
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: or just go to system settings	12:22
Tw\|sT	dansko : see PM.	12:22
Jay-Oh-En	monitor and display atwo	12:22
atwo	how do i copy it all	12:23
* Tw\|sT splits to get ready for work		12:23
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: then set it there	12:23
E_mE	ive backed up my home directory to a new drive under /usr/home .. i will be reinstalling kubuntu from afresh onto / and then linking my /home to /usr/home after reinstall.. should all my app configurations remain as before?	12:23
Jay-Oh-En	atwo: join #mychannel	12:23
dansko	can anybody help me?	12:23
kubu	hmm.. have i gotten it right? b\|cos if i use the dvd only and add universe to it. it wount work, so for using universe you have to use an online repo right?	12:24
dansko	i tried to install packages, but when i do its says that it cant connect, cant find source for packages or that when it installs packages it could be that it screws up system...?	12:24
crush_groove	sudo apt-get gnome? << will install meta package?	12:26
dani_	hi	12:26
crush_groove	hello dani	12:26
ardchoille	crush_groove: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	12:28
atwo	!resolution	12:28
ubotu	The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	12:28
=== Zvezdichko is now known as Zvezdichko`
atwo	well	12:37
atwo	i give up	12:37
sigma_kubuntu	anyone here used skype for linux and adobe reader 8 for linux?	12:37
atwo	this piece of ass system can't even detect the resolution on a fresh install	12:37
atwo	waste of 2 days	12:37
sigma_kubuntu	atwo: give up at what?	12:37
atwo	on this Os	12:37
bazzieb	can someone help with format a usb attached HDD please???	12:37
atwo	krapbuntu	12:37
ktosia	$ ./skype	12:38
ktosia	bash: ./skype: No such file or directory	12:38
ktosia	ktosia@ktosiowo:~/dap/skype/skype_static-1.4.0.118$ file ./skype	12:38