00:00Pici!offtopic
00:00Jack_SparrowGuys.. keep it on topic
00:00Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:00ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
00:00flybackmy favorite in lemmings II was the highland tribe I would pause and listen to that adlib bagpipe synth tune for hrs
00:00flyback:P
00:00brobostigoni also loved the very first prince os persia
00:00brobostigonof
00:00eldkraftSlart: yeah to orsakringskassann and such. I never got it to work in 64bit ubuntu though.. just SUSE
00:00PriceChild!offtopic | flyback brobostigon
00:00ubotuflyback brobostigon: please see above
00:00PiciThis is a support channel, we have other channels for chatter.
00:00dessnrdid you hear the panpipes in lev 22 in easy level of lemmings 1?
00:00flybackok :)
00:00PriceChilddessnr, offtopic
00:00Picidessnr: offtopic
00:00Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this erro message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:00dessnrsorry :|
00:00flybackBITE MY "CANUCK"
00:00flybackthere now I am really off topic :P
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00:00brobostigonsorry, just reminiscing
00:01Jerrquick nvidia question: Twinview = DualView in windows?
00:01Phusion:)
00:01Phusiontwinview = two monitors one card
00:01Slarteldkraft: oh.. currently I'm using firefox32  when I have to do that stuff.. it's only a couple of times per year.. deklarationsdags =)
00:01Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
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00:01exploidAnyone got dual monitor working easyly? I
00:01brobostigongood night all
00:01JerrI might after this
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00:01savageoneexploid: nope but I'd like to
00:01exploidI'm trying to make it work on my laptop but doesn't want to
00:01Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:02timewriter!tvtuner
00:02ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tvtuner - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
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00:02MacTheMadslart: 2 lines: line 1 reads: 192.168.2.0     *     255.255.255.0     U     0     0     0   eth0 and line 2 reads: default     192.168.2.1     0.0.0.0     UG     100     0     0     eth0
00:02Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:02Spzattjesus answer me then
00:02eldkraftSlart: haha yeah and I use it for pappadagar
00:03musikgoatMacTheMad: do you have problem with dhcp as well?
00:03SlartMacTheMad: yes.. that looks right to me.. gateway is 192.168.2.1.. which you can't ping.. odd
00:03Jerrwell I screwed that one up, whats the command again to reset my x.conf (sorry it's been a while...)
00:03Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:03tsukasa_question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
00:04timewriteranyone knows how to install Tv tuner on feisty ?
00:04Lycohas anyone ever seen a bootscreen like this one after installing Gutsy? http://picasaweb.google.com/lycoloco/RandomJunk/photo?authkey=IDvsa9PplsM#5146209518028959650
00:04SlartMacTheMad: would you try another thing,please. "sudo iptables -L" .. it should just be 3 lines.. all with "policy ACCEPT"
00:04Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:04Jerrtimewriter: I think I saw that on the community support
00:05Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:05MacTheMadon that machine with ubuntu yes... it's turned on in the router but on my windows installation I hard coded it to 11 so I would always pull down the same ip I have set for p2p
00:05Slarteldkraft: hehe... have you tried the other variants available? there is one from posten.. one from nordbanken, I think..
00:05musikgoatLyco: thats the windows bootloader
00:05Lycoit is?
00:05timewriteri have Leadtek Tv2000 Xp Global
00:05Lycohmm... so how do I get grub to show up instead of that, musikgoat?
00:05Spzattguys!?
00:05Lycothat's what showed up after a fresh install of gutsy
00:05groutis there an app that can make iso images from cdrom?
00:05musikgoatsounds like you might not have installed gutsy to the first system disk?
00:05musikgoatis it on a second disk?
00:05Lyconope, you're right. I didn't
00:05Lycoyup
00:05Spzattim trying to start ubuntu, when i get this error message when it loads : mda: timeout waiting for DMA
00:06dessnrgrout: k3b is a good one for that
00:06groutthanks
00:06LycoI've got 2 SATA drives with OSes on them. The first has XP, teh second has Ubuntu
00:06musikgoatlyco, go into bios and set your second disk to be the first disk boot
00:06timewritergrout , there is a command for that i guess
00:06MacTheMadslart: yes 3 entries all with policy accept
00:06Garath531Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
00:06musikgoatthere should be some boot menu to do that Lyco
00:06Lycoso should I put grub on HD1 when I'm installing the bootloader, musikgoat?
00:06SlartSpzatt: if you leave it for a while, doesn't it continue?
00:06tsukasa_question guys - im sshing to this server on port 443 and on my local machine it lags like a b----- because of services listening on that port - so how can i either turn on or off port exclusitivity for ssh or - im thinking messing with natd.conf... any ideas? am i headed the right way?
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00:06SpzattSlart : no
00:06musikgoatlyco, that will do it too
00:06Lycoyeah, I know how to get to that, so that's not a problem, musikgoat. I appreciate your help  :)
00:07musikgoatsure thing
00:07Jerroh man, I forgot now how to start up X again
00:07snkmadanyone else had problems booting ubuntu after latest kernel header update?
00:07SlartMacTheMad: and the error when you tried ping 192.168.2.1 was "network unreachable"?
00:07SpzattWhat can i do?
00:08SpzattCan i bring the destkop up in recovery mode? (use the command?)
00:08Jerrubotu: !help > Jerr
00:08MacTheMadslart: all 4 lines "destination host unreachable"
00:08rafael_good evening can somebody, please, direct me to an easy way to make the 64 bit Ubuntu sun-java work.
00:08SlartSpzatt: hmm.. well.. mda is a raid-device I think.. and that message indicates that dms for some reason didn't work out (dma makes hard drive transfers faster, kind of).. it shouldn't keep you from booting though.. it should continue
00:08shadowbladeDon't know if people here can help with this...When I try to boot into my vista partition from grub, my computer just restarts and comes back to grub. Anyone have any ideas?
00:09SpzattOk, ill restart and let it go then.
00:09musikgoatmdadm is slart, i think his is dma
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00:09musikgoatdirect memory access?
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00:09timewriterit seems like i need the driver for cx8800
00:09Slartmusikgoat: usually there's a device name first in that error.. and I think mda, mdb, mdc etc are raid-devices..
00:09nickrudshadowblade, sudo fdisk -l , does that show your partitions? (just stab in the dark)
00:09musikgoatyour right
00:10shadowbladenickrud: yep, theyre all there
00:10musikgoatahh, didn't see the first part
00:10musikgoatheh
00:10shadowbladenickrud: i can see the partition just fine from here (ubuntu)
00:10Slartmusikgoat: or perhaps that was md0, md1.. I don't really remember
00:11nickrudshadowblade, ok, my partition table got trashed by an install once, had to reinstall vista. Thats good for you. Is your vista on partition 1?
00:11dessnrnickrud: is there no way that you can rebuild the grub boot block?
00:11shadowbladenickrud: sda3
00:11SlartMacTheMad: do you get any output if you run "arp"?
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00:12Garath531Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
00:12MacTheMadslart: should I try a different ip from the one coded on the windows install?
00:12nickrudshadowblade, hm, a sec
00:12timewriterlol i guess the module is already loaded
00:12SlartMacTheMad: you dualboot with windows on this machine?
00:12Urimhi guys.. installing ubuntu7.10 for the first time with winxp.. have some trouble booting winxp.. anyone willing to offer help.. would appreciate it a lot
00:13MacTheMadnot on this machine but on that one yes
00:13timewriternight .
00:13nickrudshadowblade, sorry, I thought I had some down time at work. brb
00:13shadowbladenickrud: np
00:13mwilsonemtI have a volume problem on a Toshiba lap top, anyone able to help trouble shoot?
00:13SlartMacTheMad: well.. might as well try another ip.. can't do any harm
00:13MacTheMadslart: not on this machine but on the one having trouble yes
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00:13musikgoatmwilsonemt: whats your issue?
00:14mwilsonemtMusikgoat, I have extreamly low volume.  Already checked my music player, ALSA mixer and the laptop volume controle
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00:14musikgoatmwilsonemt: i have the same problem, you have to modify the hda driver... let me find the commands again
00:15mwilsonemtThanks
00:15MacRafyDo somebody know a website with a complete how to for sun java 6 64bit
00:15wolsUrim: what problems?
00:15Urimhi wols :D
00:16SlartMacTheMad: you can try this too.. "ping -I eth0 192.168.2.1" ... just to be sure it picks the right interface for the traffic
00:16nickrudshadowblade, while I'm finishing here, could you put your /boot/grub/menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
00:16Garath531Hello everyone, I have a problem. I am trying to install Apache 2.2.6 on a remote computer (without internet access) running Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn. However, when ever I try to configure it using this command (in the terminal) "./configure --enable-module=so" , I get this error message "c compiler cannot create executables" Can anyone help me?
00:16ryancris anyone using atl1 network driver?? I am having a heck of a probem
00:16ryancrproblem*
00:17wolsGarath531: a) why not use the ubuntu apache2  b) your need build-essential
00:17wols!anyone | ryancr
00:17uboturyancr: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
00:17Garath531How do I get the ubuntu apache2 ?
00:17wolsGarath531: by installing it via apt or another package management tool
00:17musikgoatmwilsonemt: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=314383    follow the instructions for the toshiba satellite
00:17nickrud!info apache2 feisty
00:18ubotuapache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
00:18l21logan99hello
00:18musikgoatmwilsonemt: except for me, only model=auto worked, not model=3stack
00:18l21logan99i need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
00:18wolsUrim: do you have a problem or not?
00:18mwilsonemtmusikgoat, thanks again
00:18Garath531!info apache2 Feisty
00:18ubotuapache2: Next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.3-3.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 84 kB
00:18ryancrI just got a new asus motherboard that has gigabit network on it that uses the atl1 driver, I am getting an ip etc, but cannot get 'out' of the computer, cannot ping anything, any ideas?
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00:19jacob_how can i scan the area for access points and connect to them in the terminal?
00:19wolsrafael_:pastebinthe output of sudo ifconfig -a, route and cat /etc/resolv.conf to a pastebin
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00:19Garath531Where can I get ubuntu apache2?
00:19musikgoatoh and mwilsonemt  you may just need the following line, this is what worked for me:  options snd-hda-intel model=auto
00:19wolsjacob_: install wireless tools. iwlist for example
00:20Garath531Does it come with the live CD?
00:20MacTheMadslart: nope didn't help only how do I get it to stop?
00:20SlartMacTheMad: ctrl+c
00:20wolsGarath531: from your ubuntu repostiroy.
00:20l21logan99 need help with getting wireless working on my imac in ubuntu gutsy
00:20l21logan99i need the driver
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00:20SlartMacTheMad: just have to ask this.. the network cable is connected, right? little lights blinking?
00:20wols!wireless l21logan99
00:20nickruddessnr, yes there is, use the instructions from the 'after installing windows' section in the next factoid
00:20nickrud!grub | dessnr
00:20wols!wireless | l21logan99
00:20ubotudessnr: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
00:20ubotul21logan99: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
00:20wolsl21logan99: what chip?
00:21Lycois there any way to check and see which drive is which as far as grub would be concerned when I'm in the live cd? I wanna make sure I'm putting this bootloader in the right place this time
00:21shadowbladenickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49088/
00:21l21logan99Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.13.1)
00:21wolsl21logan99: grub has nothing to do with drivers or the live cd
00:21musikgoatLyco: you can look for the ntfs partition
00:21dessnr!grub dessnr
00:21ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about grub dessnr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
00:21Garath531!repository
00:21ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
00:21dessnr!grub | dessnr
00:21Garath531!info repository
00:21wols!msg the bot
00:21ubotuPackage repository does not exist in gutsy
00:21wols!msgthebot
00:21Lycomusikgoat: it's mounted, so what do I do to find out which one the current one that i'm on is?
00:21dessnr!grub
00:22MacTheMadslart: well it tried 87 times... all destination host unreachable... I'm gonna take a few minutes & type out those files into pastebin & contact u shortly w/ the url
00:22wolsGarath531: please don't abuse the bot
00:22Lycohey ConstyXIV, long time no see
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00:22dessnrhmm, what am i doing wrong?
00:22musikgoatLyco: look at gparted
00:22l21logan99any ideas?
00:22ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
00:22Bjornalfanyone know how to move the datastore for a mysql database? mine filled up my root partition and now won't start
00:22ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
00:22wolsl21logan99: I asked you something
00:22l21logan99the chipset is Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (4.170.13.1)
00:22dessnrnickrud: thanks mate.
00:22musikgoatLycoLoco: it will be whichever like /dev/sda that has ntfs on it that is the primary disk
00:22wolsl21logan99: bcm43xx
00:23SpzattSlart
00:23SpzattIt did not continue
00:23wols!bcm43xx | l21logan99
00:23ubotul21logan99: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
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00:23LycoLocomusikgoat: so do I wanna install the bootloader (in this case GRUB) on the same drive that XP is on or that I'm going to be installing Ubuntu on?
00:23jacob_bcm43xx has to be blacklisted and install the driver with ndiswrapper
00:23jacob_it works on my laptop
00:23wolsjacob_: you are mistaken
00:23musikgoatLycoLoco: in your case, on the XP disk
00:23SlartMacTheMad: I'm not sure it will change anything.. to me it looks like your settings are correct.. can't think of anything else that might be disturbing it.. well.. there's one thing.. I dualbooted, switched network cables and stuff.. and all of a sudden everything stopped working.. turned out I had confused the switch so much it just gave up.. had to power-cycle the switch.. then it worked
00:23musikgoatas that is primary
00:23SpzattSlart : it didnt continyue
00:23Urimhi wols, thank you for replying.. really appreciate offering your help.. i am installing ubuntu 7.10 on a toshiba satellite... i want to double boot it with winxp.. first i reformated my winxp.. created on partition.. used the default winxp home edition that comes with my toshiba laptop.. i downloaded Ubuntu 7.10.. i burned the CD.. i booted from CD.. checked it first.. no errors.. so i started installing.. i used the typical settings.. all was working fine..
00:23jacob_wols, i'm using it right now
00:23l21logan99thank you
00:23SpzattSlart : it didnt continue *
00:24wols!wfm | jacob_
00:24ubotujacob_: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
00:24SlartSpzatt: ok.. what was the error-message again?
00:24LycoLocoooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
00:24Spzattdma: timeout waiting for MDA     (or mda timout waiting for dma)
00:24jacob_wols: on some laptops the driver is different so i can work on some but on others it wont
00:24testuserhi I do before 7.4 it is good work  after I download 7.10 and install but it is connect or update wizard or add-remove tools not connect work :(
00:24MacTheMadslart: well I haven't tried rebooting the router so let us see
00:25wolsjacob_: I know, but do YOU know which one l21logan99 has?
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00:25jacob_i have the files
00:25jacob_i can send it to him
00:25Invert314ubuntu won't boot
00:25Invert314for error mesage at this link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=644810
00:25SlartSpzatt: can you find out which one it was?
00:25Bjornalfbetter qiuestion how do i find what files are eating up 100+ gigs of space?
00:25musikgoatBjornalf: disk usage analyzer?
00:26jacob_or her
00:26musikgoatapplications -> accessories -> DUA
00:26Bjornalfoh.. forgot to mention running ubuntu server so no GUI
00:26LycoLocomusikgoat: ooh, actually, it looks like I lied. both XP and Ubuntu are going on SDB, which is third in line on the dropdown list in gparted, so I'm guessing I wanna install it on HD2?
00:26jacob_to black list it go to the terminal and type gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
00:26jacob_at the end of the file add a new line and put blacklist bcm43xx
00:27Johnson_anyone here have the 200 dollar everex?
00:27musikgoatLycoLoco: maybe... XP could have its bootloader on SDA, but you won't find out till you try
00:27jacob_before doing that you need the files
00:27UsiuHi
00:27Spzattuh i gotta get back then
00:27Spzattand restart
00:27musikgoatLycoLoco: didn't you install the grub bootloader on the ubuntu disk already?
00:27Spzattit was DMA
00:27wolsXP can boot from sdb IF it was installed that way
00:27Usiuhow to make such a nice bottom Mac like menu bar /
00:27jacob_after blacklisting the driver, restart the computer
00:27Usiuunder gnome
00:27Spzattslart : hda : timeout waiting for DMA
00:27ZaerathI am getting the error on boot:
00:27Zaerathsiocsifaddr: no such device
00:27ZaerathAnyone have any solutions?
00:27LycoLocomusikgoat: I'm sitting in the LiveCD now trying to make sure that I got everything set up right this time.
00:27nickrudshadowblade, sorry, still here
00:28wolsZaerath: sudo ifconfig -a
00:28jshriverin dosbox how can you eject or remount another floppy image?
00:28shadowbladenickrud: np
00:28LycoLocoI was thinking it was Grub that was having issues, so I formatted the partition and am starting from scratch this time
00:28MacTheMadslart: didn't work however I just ran ifconfig only forgot to type eth0 after and below the entry for eth0 theres another entry for lo... could that be the problem?
00:28musikgoatok LycoLoco when you installed the first time, did you follow the general instructions?
00:28Zaerathwols: That only displays lo, and ifconfig eth0 tells me the device cannot be found.
00:28Bjornalfmusikgoat: so is there a CLI way to find large files?
00:28Usiu?
00:28SlartSpzatt: ah.. googling
00:28musikgoatLycoLoco: ohh
00:28UsiuWhere I can find nice shiny bottom icon bar ?
00:28wolsZaerath: then theris no driver loaded for your ethernet
00:28Usiufor gnome
00:28Usiu?
00:28musikgoatBjornalf: du
00:28SlartMacTheMad: nope.. that's just localhost.. your loopback interface.. just goes back to yourself
00:28Urimwols : xp won't boot if it was installed from toshiba-ms CD ? .. any trick or configuration i should do.. or no matter how hard i try .. it wouldn't work.. like some kind of limitation from MS
00:28musikgoatBjornalf: du will help you show disk usage
00:28Zaerathwols: I figured that much; I just ran dist-upgrade today, and that was when it stopped working. Solutions?
00:29shadowbladenickrud: only a couple thing i still use windows for
00:29Bjornalfmusikgoat: ahh ty i just couldn't remember that one
00:29wolsUrim: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
00:29musikgoatBjornalf: yw
00:29jacob_who is having problems with their bcm43xx wireless driver?
00:29wolsZaerath: what NIC do you have?
00:29spartacusHi. Has anyone managed to downgrade Gutsy to Xorg 7.1?
00:29wolsspartacus: downgrades are not supported. why'd you want to do that?
00:29Zaerathwols: Some OnBoard crap, I'm unsure, this is just my server computer and the NIC worked before I did a dist upgrade (btw I'm running a 2.4 kernel).
00:30wolsZaerath: what version of ubuntu is this?
00:30SpzattSlart any answer yet?
00:30SlartSpzatt: some people report success after disabling dma
00:30Zaerathwols: Debian, but the same arch, and Debain's support sucks.
00:30SlartSpzatt: but that seems like a rough solution..
00:30Zaerathwols: Every fix I have done for Ubuntu works great in Debian. ^_^
00:30wolsZaerath: you suck for asking in #ubuntu. ask in #debian. good day
00:30testuserhow to fıx 7.10 connect and upgrade problems
00:31SpzattSlart : How do i disable dma in recovery mode?
00:31Usiu??????????????????
00:31UsiuWhere I can find icon bar for gnome
00:31spartacuswols: because I've got ATI graphics, and the better tested FireGL release only supports up to Xorg 7.1
00:31UsiuLike the bottom one on this pictures http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/OneBaaadMuthaShutYoMouth?content=71800
00:31Usiuany help?
00:31wolsspartacus: as I said, not supported
00:31theLichKinghi
00:32MacRafyNeed some help with the flash plugin in my 7.10 64bit Ubuntu. It don´t work in Firefox.
00:32SlartSpzatt: try using the boot option "ide=nodma"
00:32wolsspartacus: and pretty useless too since all gutsy packages would depend on the newer Xorg packages
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00:32spartacusdarn
00:32wolsMacRafy: there is no 64bit flash plugin
00:32musikgoatUsiu: isn't that a theme?  system -> preferences -> themes
00:32wolsspartacus: what ati card is it?
00:32SlartSpzatt: when you boot.. press 'e' and add that to one of the lines there.. then boot using that
00:32theLichKingi installed the flashplayer-nonfree package but firefox still tells me that i need to install the flashplayer plugin... is installing that package enough or is there something else i gotta do?
00:33Spzattslart : How do i do that?
00:33musikgoatsorry Usiu appearances
00:33Usiumusikgoat, I am interested what application serves such a gnome-panel
00:33mutablehello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
00:33Spzattslart : add it to startup command?
00:33Usiumusikgoat, bottom pabel
00:33nickrudshadowblade, back for real now. Your grub looks good, has vista booted before?
00:33wols!flasissue | theLichKing
00:33ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flasissue - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
00:33wols!flashissue | theLichKing
00:33Usiumusikgoat, its not a normal gnome panel
00:33ubotutheLichKing: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads.
00:33SlartMacTheMad: sorry.. I can't think of any more reasons why you wouldn't be able to ping your gateway.. ask the channel again.. perhaps they have some more ideas to try
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00:33theLichKingoh
00:33FlareMagehi i'm a limited vision ubuntu user and i'm looking for a good mud client that is good with larger text sizes and doesn't spread off of the screen
00:33musikgoatUsiu: oh are you talking about the bottom part of the last picture?
00:33Urimwols:
00:33Urimtitle           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
00:33Urimroot            (hd0,1)
00:33Urimkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro quiet splash
00:33Uriminitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
00:33Urimquiet
00:33FlareMageterminal clients are ok
00:33Urimtitle           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
00:33Urimroot            (hd0,1)
00:33Urimkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=a2294174-35c6-4f18-b062-f606424f0b5e ro single
00:34Uriminitrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
00:34Usiumusikgoat, yeeees
00:34musikgoatUsiu: that is AWN avant-window-navigator
00:34Usiumusikgoat, thanks! :)
00:34musikgoatUsiu: that is modified a bit, but its nice
00:34wolsUrim: I told you p PASTEBIN, not to spam the channel!
00:34SlartSpzatt: when you get to grub.. ie where you select which kernel to run.. there are usually the current one and the one with "recovery mode".. press e when the top one is selected
00:34wols!paste | Urim
00:34ubotuUrim: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
00:34musikgoatit requires compositing effects usiu
00:34SpzattOk.
00:34theLichKingwols: you think it will work if i install it through the firefox plugin manager?
00:34SpzattThen add what you said?
00:34Usiumusikgoat, I use debian
00:34shadowbladenickrud: yea
00:35SpzattThe top one = The normal or the recovery one?
00:35Usiumusikgoat, and I didnt know how is this thing called :)
00:35Usiumusikgoat, thanks
00:35SlartSpzatt: here's a thread about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9988
00:35spartacuswols: X1400
00:35wolsMacRafy: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
00:35musikgoatUsiu: as long as you install compiz or beryl, and that works, awn should work
00:35SlartSpzatt: the normal one
00:35musikgoatcool
00:35SpzattPress E, then add what you said?
00:35Usiumusikgoat, well I have working compiz-fusion
00:35nickrudshadowblade, then I'm clueless, it's usually a problem with windows not being on the first partition (I never install it otherwise). Sorry
00:35SlartSpzatt: yes
00:35SpzattOk, will do.
00:35testuser???? hey ubuntu 7.10 not install new programs add/remove tools how to fix?
00:35musikgoatUsiu: have fun then
00:35wolsMacTheMad: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
00:35Usiumusikgoat, thanks
00:36musikgoatwols: he cannot, he has no internet access
00:36musikgoatlol
00:36shadowbladenickrud: can i just like rename and rearrange the partitions so vista is on sda1
00:36SlartSpzatt: not at the top.. but where it says "nosplash" or "vga=XXX" or..whatever options there are
00:36wolsmusikgoat: either he does or noe one can help. endo of story
00:36Urimsorryyyy :S
00:36shadowbladenickrud: in gparted
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00:36wolsmusikgoat: and there are ways. e.g. a usb stick
00:36musikgoattrue
00:36testuserI do gedit modprobe.d vpi6 off firefox connect ok but system not normal runing
00:36nickrudshadowblade, not to my knowledge, no. Slart seems to know editing grub, maybe when he's done he can take a look
00:36FlareMageplease pm me if anyone knows of a good mud client for ubuntu as i mentioned i'm limited vision and can't keep up with the chat room
00:36shadowbladenickrud: ok
00:37Slartgaah.. I don't hang out with grub.. stop making accusations =)
00:37shadowbladenickrud: thanks for trying
00:37nickrud*seems, I always leave myself a cranny to sqeeze out ouf :)
00:37wols!tr´| testuser
00:37ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tr´ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
00:37wols!tr | testuser
00:37ubotutestuser: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
00:38wolsshadowblade: if you do this the vista bootloader will be unhappy to say the least
00:38jac1why my laptop T43 always beep when it started, how I can stop it?
00:38shadowbladewols: .... will it work?
00:38wolsshadowblade: I just told you. read
00:39wolsjac1: beeping when exactly? beeping before grub menu shows?
00:39shadowbladewols: so what is it that will make it unhappy
00:40wolsshadowblade: moving a partition so it changes device nodes
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00:40Slartshadowblade: I think you can do some switching around to fool the windows loader, using grub
00:40wolspossibly even move it on disk
00:40wolsSlart: you can but it's bad. usually you don't need to
00:40h-townhi, what's the easiest and most painfree way to erase my vista partition so that i can devote my computer to ubuntu?
00:40musikgoatformat
00:40h-towni have a dual vista and ubuntu going on
00:40fsckrdoes anyone know of another media application for linux other than mythtv?  I thought there was one in production but for the life of me can't remember the name
00:40finchx6format
00:40wolsh-town: format the partitione xt3
00:40shadowbladewols: how exactly do i do it, i've never seen anything to actually change the number
00:40Slartwols: no.. it's more of a last resort.. I had to do it because I moved my hard drives around.. was the only way to make it work
00:41musikgoatfinchx6: beat ya :-P
00:41finchx6lol
00:41youngbeep when the system boot was about to finished, more exactly is the process bar was at the end.
00:41FezzlerUpdate Manager shows 6 or so Samba-related files ready for updating, but clicking install does nothing.  Is there another way to update these files?
00:41wolsshadowblade: tell me your problem again please
00:41l21logan99I need help again
00:41Slartshadowblade: what do you want to do?
00:41h-townformat my vista partition, how do i absorb my two partitions together?
00:41Slarth-town: are there data on either of them?
00:41warriorforgodHas anybody successfully setup vnc-java and tight vnc to remote into a machine using a web browser in 64bit desktop?
00:41h-townis there a way with keeping all my ubuntu files?
00:41h-townyea
00:41tiagoboldtneed _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
00:41wolsh-town: boot from a live cd after you deleted te vista partition. then use gparted to resize your ubuntu one
00:42finchx6h: download a tool like the Ultimate Boot CD... it will let you format both of them and then merge them
00:42shadowbladewols: vista just doesnt load from grub...i arrow down to it, hit enter, get the cursor flashing at the top right of the screen for about 3 secs, and my computer restarts
00:42wolstiagoboldt: what chip?
00:42l21logan99im trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
00:42wolsshadowblade: ask a windows channel
00:42h-townah, so i can't get away with not formating my ubuntu partition then huh
00:42tiagoboldtwols, not sure :| lsusb: Bus 006 Device 002: ID 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
00:42rencore_how can i view the widgets in gnome
00:42wolsh-town: yes. if you have currently ubuntu installed
00:42finchx6you CAN, but its not the easiest way, like you requested.. heh
00:43noelferreirahow can i export all my messages from all accounts of mozila-thunderbird from one computer to other computer?
00:43musikgoath-town: i would backup everything before you attempt any resizing
00:43Slartshadowblade: I had to do something like this to make my xp partition boot properly "map             (hd0) (hd1)    ,  map             (hd1) (hd0)".. look it up in the grub manual
00:43rencore_im theming and wanna see all the widgets
00:43h-townit's a lot to back up :(
00:43musikgoatrencore_: i think you find them in a pixmaps folder
00:43musikgoati cant remember where though
00:44h-towni figured i'd have to back everything up
00:44rencore_no there is a program but i forgot the name
00:44musikgoath-town: just your home dir should be important
00:44rencore_and it has the buttons and sliders
00:44finchx6back it up or lose it, man..  unfortunately, those are your options...  yeah, they've got "non-destructive" programs for all of this, but honestly, I still don't trust them
00:44rencore_and i can see everything
00:44musikgoatoh sorry rencore_ i know not what you speak of
00:44h-townyea but i got like 60 gigs of stuff going on.. i was hoping i could take a short cut
00:44delfihi everybody, i have installed ubuntustudio with gnome on my pc, and after some configuration, i've found that sometimes gnome gives me an error on startup like "cannot start gnome settings daemon". is this a common problm? what can i do?
00:44wolsnoelferreira: ls -l ~/.*  there will be a folder "mozilla" or "thunderbird or such
00:44musikgoath-town: not reliably
00:45l21logan99m trying to install wireless firmware using the info  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy but i go to restricted drivers and it says no restricted drivers needed
00:45noelferreirawols, i just need to copy that folder ?
00:45h-towni see, thanks
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00:45finchx6H: I lost 95gb of mp3s when switching over my older desktop machine..  lol
00:46h-townouch
00:46finchx6yeah, luckily I'd backed them up on my newer desktop.
00:46wolsl21logan99:it isn't needed, since it's already in the kernel that driver. you only need the broadcom firmware extracter from the windows driver
00:46ronniefinchx6: just format it@@
00:46l21logan99how do i do that?
00:46UrimSorry Wols :$:$:$:$:$ is that the info u needed http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49092/
00:46finchx6ronnie: huh?? I'm not the one asking what to do, I was trying to help h-town
00:46mutablehello, i cannot set IFS, if i do --- $ export IFS="i" --- and then --- $ echo $IFS --- it doesn't print "i", what's the problem?
00:47musikgoathehe
00:47ronnie@@..
00:47h-towndo i have to merge the drives.. couldn't i just format my vista partition and use it as a seperate partition like a storage closet?
00:47musikgoatyes h-town that would be fine
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00:47finchx6yeah... just make sure its a linux file system and mount it
00:47drumlineI have a server that has services that go down for 20 minutes periodically and I need to know of a way to monitor it.  What's the best way to monitor things like qmail, CPU, memory, etc?
00:47wolsUrim: what does windows say?
00:48wolsUrim: cause it looks alright if your windows is on sda1
00:48askandhttp://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html New atidriver released!!!
00:48spartacusaskand, don't do it man
00:48h-townso execpt for formating it, is there anything i have to do to the partition to use it as storage, like some linux file structure magic or something
00:48wolsaskand: irrelevant and OT
00:48pauliukasdrumline: SNMP using Cacti or something
00:48askandspartacus: oh why?
00:48l21logan99wols: how do i do what you suggest
00:48wolsl21logan99: by useing the fwcutter
00:48finchx6h-town, it would be more stable and easier to access
00:48drumlinepauliukas: sweet.  Cacti is a good one eh?   Is MRTG the same thing as Cacti?
00:48spartacusaskand, because i just installed it :-( read the release notes...
00:48finchx6as opposed to leaving it NTFS
00:48musikgoath-town gparted -> delete partition, and create new linux partition
00:48l21logan99wols: i installed it, how do i use it?
00:49Torchwooda (temporary we hope) fix for flashplayer-nonfree. you can download the fp9 archive from adobe and extract the last (9.0.48) version. it's a bit of a big archive, but that's adobe for you. http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/installers/archive/fp9_archive.zip
00:49h-townoh so gparted will do everything, sweet
00:49Slartdrumline: I think there applications that monitor and send mail etc when something happens
00:49musikgoath-town: yes
00:49pauliukasdrumline: Pretty much, except Cacti looks nicer, is easily customizable and is easier to use.
00:49h-towncan i do that from ubuntu or do i have to use my gparted cd and reboot
* Slart uses cacti
00:49askandspartacus: "no longer supports XFree86 4.3 or Linux Kernel 2.4" :O
00:49pauliukasBut I think MRTG is more for doing it locally...
00:49wolsby running it against the windows drivers for you card to extract the firmware. the wiki gave you the way to do it
00:49musikgoath-town: you can do it in ubuntu
00:49h-townright on, thanks for your help
00:49musikgoatyw
00:50spartacusaskand: "Connecting a display device that supports 1680x1050 to a system running Linux may result in a maximum display resolution of 1280x1024 only being available"
* spartacus is posting from 1280x1024 right now
00:50MacTheMadslart: still trying 2 solve problem on my own... checking settings says my interrupt for eth0 is 16... does ubuntu support interrupts that high?
00:50SlartMacTheMad: yes, I think it does
00:50askandspartacus:  oh ok
00:50drumlinepauliukas: awesome.  Thanks dude!
00:50pauliukasnp
00:50askandspartacus:  thanks for the warning mate
00:50l21logan99wols: i cant find how to do that
00:51l21logan99wols: excuse my stupidity please
00:51Slartspartacus: huh.. I'm running 1680x1050 with gutsy
00:51spartacusSlart: with ATI 7.12 driver?
00:51Joe_Hey, I'm thinking about switching over to Ubuntu (from XP) and was wondering if ubuntu supports the broadcom BCM4318 chipset from the start?
00:51Slartspartacus: ahh.. ati.. they always crash the good parties =)
00:51Slartspartacus: I'm using nvidia
00:51yubwyubvad bestämmer vad som finns med i lägg till/ta bort, eller som man måste ta från Synaptic istället?
00:51Urimwols : windows says : error29: Disk Write Error(thanks for help)
00:52musikgoatJoe_: i think there are issues to start
00:52Slart!english | yubwyub
00:52ubotuyubwyub: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
00:52musikgoat!bcm43xx
00:52ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
00:52yubwyuboups.. wrong tab :-}
00:52spartacusSlart: yup, and 7.11 supported 1680x1050! damn
00:52FezzlerHow would I use "apt-get update" for Samba to update the program files.  Update Manager isn't working.
00:52Slartyubwyub: I think ubuntu (canonical) decides what goes in there..
00:52yubwyubaha. ok thanks
00:52shigutsoWhen I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
00:52askandspartacus it wasnt a long time between 7.11 and 7.12...maybe we get another soon?
00:53FezzlerI asked in #Samba but they called me a clueless Ubuntu user and told me to get lost.  :)
00:53Slartspartacus: I thought the ati drivers were improving?
00:53Jerrso I have dual monitors working with the nvidia driver
00:53Joe_okay is it difficult to get it working as ive tried fedora core and debian etch and neither worked
00:53Jerrbut, I can't get compiz working
00:53nickrudJerr, what video chip?
00:53finchx6Joe: I did a quick google search and there are several forums saying they're having trouble with them
00:53musikgoatJoe_: i'm not speaking from experience, sorry
00:53Jerrnv 6800 gs
00:53spartacusaskand: not long... http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=735&num=4
00:54spartacusSlart, the packaging and integration has been.
00:54SpzattSlart : didnt work
00:54nickrudoh, nvidia, don't use that. But, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , then    restricted-manager  and installing the nvidia driver should do it
00:54Joe_ah okay, i realise there a pain to get working its just im a bit new to linux and cant get them working at all ive tried every tutorial out there and none seem to work
00:54MacTheMadslart: buddy stopped by & has him stumped too (only knows windows tho) and he's saying something about if all the cables on my network are type a and the one on this machine is type b... but again when I just booted same machine to windows I get a connection... same settings? I'm quite stumped & frustrated
00:54warriorforgodI need to get vnc access to my machine through a web browser.  Anybody know how to do this in 64 bit ubuntu?
00:55spartacusSlart, They even support building Ubuntu debs from the installer
00:55SlartSpzatt: same error?
00:55Myrmidonwhere are the programs saved at by default in xubuntu?
00:55finchx6Joe: I'm in the same boat with my laptops sound card...  lol
00:55Myrmidoncuz i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
00:55musikgoatJoe_: it seems it would be easier to just cough up the $30 or so for a decent atheros or ralink card
00:55Jerrnickrud: I'm using nvidia driver already
00:55Urimwols: windows is giving error 29:  Disk write error just right after i choose winxp in the OS menu choice... it doesn't reach a status bar or something.. just gives this and press any key to continue
00:56nickrudJerr, does glxinfo | grep direct say yes?
00:56Spzattyes
00:56SlartMacTheMad: yes.. we've checked the firewall.. we've checked the route table..we've checked ip-nbr etc.. I don't know what else to look at
00:56Jerrnickrud: yes
00:56spartacuswarriorforgod, you'll probably need a host with a java vnc client applet, or something
00:56Joe_yeah i dont really have the money though, i bought a cheap etec wireless usb adapter for my desktop but that didnt work either, i couldnt even find out what chipset was in that
00:57Slartspartacus: ah.. sounds like it will be good once they get things together
00:57shigutsoWhen I hit Ctrl+C in GIMP, the New File option is not showing the size of the Copyed space anymore, WHY? Is this a bug from 7.10??
00:57nickrudJerr, then system->prefs->appearance , last tab, you selected some effects?
00:57musikgoatJoe_: i understand that
00:57Jerrnickrud: yes and it couldnt do it
00:57spartacuswarriorforgod, and of course, running vnc-server on your system
00:57MacTheMadslart: yeah, thanks... gonna call it a night & start again tomorrow... have a good one
00:57SlartSpzatt: well.. if that didn't work then I don't know what else to try.. try asking the channel again.. mention the exact error message
00:57SlartMacTheMad: you too.. good night
00:57nickrudJerr, try typing  compiz --replace   in a terminal
00:57Myrmidonwhere are programs saved at by default?
00:58preactionMyrmidon, the executables are saved in /usr/bin, why?
00:58nickrudMyrmidon, in /etc/ , /usr/bin , /usr/share , a few others.   dpkg -L <packagename> will spit out all files & locations
00:58Myrmidonbecause i want to put some shortcuts in the taskbar
00:58Jerrnickrud: segfault
00:58warriorforgodspartacus: I am running vncserver and have a session running on display :1.  I also have port 5801 and 5901 forwarded to the machine on my router.  When I browse to the machine through a web broser I get page cannot be displayed.
00:58Joe_okay thanks anyway, im off now bye!
00:58cowlikkcan anyone help me with some problems i am having
00:59boobsbrhi, i tried to configure my notbook to use my desktop's monitor and now everything is messed up
00:59warriorforgodspartacus: And nothing at all shows up in the log file.
00:59FezzlerAnyone else having trouble getting Update Manager to install Samba file updates?
00:59nickrudJerr, so you have an install problem somehow, did you install anything but ubuntu stuff while trying to get this to work?
00:59boobsbrcan't even get the screen app running
00:59warriorforgodspartacus: Also when I do a ps -ef | grep vnc I get nothing as well.
00:59ogrehey guys, what do i install to get ubutustudio stff from repos?
00:59Jerrnickrud: I didn't install anything I don't think
01:00cowlikkwhen i log out and try to log in i just get a peach screen and an arrow then nothing happens can anyone help me
01:00nickrudFezzler, try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade , you should see some errors. It end of shift, my ride is leaving.
01:00sainzeocowlikk: have you tried restarting your computer?
01:00eugmanorge, have you done a seach for ubuntu studio package? I think there is one
01:01cowlikkyeah when i restart the computer it logs in and everything goes well but if i click log out and come back to log in then it dont work
01:01sainzeocowlikk: is this on a fresh install?
01:01oakihi
01:02JerrI have a problem with compiz
01:02cowlikkyes just installed and installed nvidia driver
01:02oakime too
01:02Jerrit segfaults
01:02oakihmm
01:02JerrThe error was 'RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter)'. (Details: serial 352 error_code 181 request_code 157 minor_code 8)
01:02oakilook at the name of the error or write the text on google search
01:02oakiand you will find the answer to your problem
01:03finchx6well, I was kind of sitting in here waiting for a good time to ask my question, but I was trying to get this working all yesterday evening and today during lunch.  I got a laptop thats using the STAC Sigmatel 9200 soundcard... which has some issues, and every how-to I try and follow, I can't get to work.  Theres a forum on it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614903 but it didn't help me any... infact, last night I was follow
01:03oakisorry
01:03Jerroaki: xinerama is the problem
01:03oakiI'm new to linis too
01:04oakisorry
01:04oakilinux
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01:04spartacuswarriorforgod, sorry, it's not something i've actually set up myself. i'm as green as you are on that.
01:04warriorforgodspartacus: ok. thx anyway
01:05oakilinux is funny
01:05oakiand different of windows
01:05oaki:P
01:05musikgoat!enter
01:05ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
01:05oakik
01:05boobsbralright, i tried to set up my desktop monitor to work with my laptop and now the screen resolution is all messed up and i can't even run the screen and video card GUI configurer. how do i fix this? it is very annoying
01:06Jack_Sparrowogre: There is a channel for ubuntustudio
01:06oakitry to download the programs from add/remove application
01:06Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: can you boot to recovery mode..
01:07Jack_Sparrow!who > oaki
01:07BenalexHello all , Is there a program that lets me ping ranges of ips??
01:07boobsbrhow do i get into recovery mode? the grub menu?
01:07MawbidI have an X keyboard problem on Gutsy. With pc105 model and US layout, the key I expect to yield backslash or bar (keycode 51, left of enter, middle row) instead yields plus or asterisk (as it does with Icelandic layout, which I also use).
01:07musikgoatBenalex: nmap
01:07CarlFKwhat is the command to sync the date from a date server ?
01:07LjLBenalex: for IP in list-of-IPs ; do ping $IP ; done
01:08LjL!ntp > CarlFK    (CarlFK, see the private message from Ubotu)
01:08Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: yes if you can get to grub menu.. recovery mode... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    set card to vesa.. max res to 1024 to get back into gui
01:08CarlFKthanks
01:08boobsbrwill try
01:08Urimif i use a winxp home edition from toshiba.. the recovery CD to install winxp ... does that cause any problem to winxp once i am done installing ubuntu ?
01:08boobsbrbrb
01:08Benalexmusikgoat: Thank you, LjL I prefere frontend programs :)
01:09Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: IF you have a backup and know the name... sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf   to edit manually
01:09tiagoboldtneed _HELP_: I've got a Toshiba L40 not showing my wlan device. It's internally usb connected(appears in lsusb), I've tried the normal ndiswrapper approaches but it's not working :\\
01:09musikgoatBenalex: nmap -v -sP 192.168.0.0/16  is an example
01:10Jack_SparrowUrim: it will overwrite your grub menu and not let you into ubuntu
01:10Jack_Sparrow!grub > Urim
01:10finchx6tiago: it sees the card but isn't working???  Are you connecting to a secure network?? like with WEP for example?
01:10Benalexmusikgoat: what 192.168.0.0/16 will scan?
01:11musikgoat192.168.0.1 to 192.168.255.255 i believe
01:11tretlehow do i fix broken packages?
01:11musikgoatwhat are you trying to ping Benalex
01:11tretlesynaptic doesnt do the job
01:11musikgoatBenalex: the /16 is CIDR notation
01:12tretleusing hardy
01:12Jack_Sparrowtretle: What have you done as far as changing your sources or using non-official repos
01:12BenalexI am trying to ping all pcs on my home network... 192.168.1.*
01:12tretleiv dont the dist upgrade
01:12musikgoatnmap -v -sP 192.168.1.0/24  then
01:12Jack_Sparrowtretle: that would be #Ubuntu+1
01:12UrimJack_Sparrow: i installed winxp first from toshiba recovery disk.. then installed ubuntu 7.10... but i am not able to boot back to winxp getting error 29: disk write error... is that cuz the toshiba-ms disk is a recovery disk not installer
01:12tretlemore active here usually isnt it?
01:13musikgoattretle: 1126 people isn't active?
01:13daedrikanyone knows a good hardware store in europe, that dispatches to all europe ?
01:13musikgoatwhat cause its not 1400+ people like around gutsy release?
01:13finchx6uhm, apparently I need to update my alsa to the newest release 1.0.15...  can anyone walk me through this???
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01:14Jack_SparrowUrim: can you get into ubuntu?
01:14maybeway36finchx6: why?
01:14Torchwoodthe 9.0.48 flashplugin-nonfree - http://rapidshare.com/files/77997350/install_flash_player_9_0_48_linux.tar.gz.html
01:14finchx6because my laptop's soundcard (Sigmatel STAC9200) isn't supported by earlier versions, and I have no sound  :[
01:15maybeway36are you on gutsy?
01:15Jack_Sparrowtretle: Yes it is more active here.. but questions and problems with the future release/version belong in that channel
01:15finchx6not on THIS computer, but its on my laptop right beside me
01:15shane2perudoes anyone know how to chat with more than one person using pidgin and yahoo?
01:15maybeway36hmm...
01:16sainzeoshane2peru: like a group/conference chat?
01:16maybeway36finchx6: try enabling backports
01:16musikgoatshane2peru: i don't think you can cross clients in a chat
01:16maybeway36not sure if it's there or not
01:16Torchwoodshane2peru: just double click on their names. a seperate tab will open for each one
01:16shane2perusainzeo: yes
01:16finchx6I've found several forums that walk you through how to get this sound card working, but I can't get them to work for me.  I'm a bit a noob, unfortunately
01:16Jack_SparrowTorchwood: great show.. but why did you post the link?
01:17TorchwoodJack_Sparrow: cos 9.0.115 is broken and they've stopped supplying (the working) 9.0.48
01:17shane2peruTorchwood: is there any way to have them all in the same tab?
01:17shane2peruTorchwood: kind of like here?
01:17Torchwoodshane2peru: don't think so. don't know. maybe one of the plugins
01:18musikgoatshane2peru: have you tried the join chat option in buddies list?
01:18Jack_SparrowTorchwood: The problem is.. that still does not work for people using opera and others.. just firefox.. and when the fix comes down.. doing that could cause them real problems
01:18lastelement1has anyone been able to set up RipIt4Me in wine and get it too function?
01:18Torgotonbazhang, you around?
01:18shane2perumusikgoat: ahh, I overlooked that
01:19Jack_Sparrowlastelement1: we tend to use k9copy to rip dvd's...  You might try in #winehq
01:19lastelement1jack_sparrow does k9copy work in the same/similar manner?
01:20Jack_Sparrowlastelement1: yes  rip down sized to single layer etc..
01:21shane__musikgoat, I don't think that worked.
01:21lastelement1jack_sparrow does it also burn the disk following the rip or do i need other software?
01:21TorchwoodJack_Sparrow: to uninstall : find /usr/lib/ -name "libflashplayer.so" -delete. it's a hack, but i want working flash so i'm gonna use it. it's just the adobe manual installer. the gutsy .deb simply downloads v115 and unpacks it to the same place
01:21Jack_Sparrow!worksforme
01:21ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
01:21musikgoatshane__: #pidgin can verify if yahoo chatrooms are supported by pidgin
01:22Jack_Sparrowlastelement1: check it out.. it is in the repos
01:22shane__musikgoat, I think I got it
01:22musikgoatused add a chat.. instead?
01:22shane__the other person was invisible so it didn't give me the option
01:22musikgoatoh
01:23Torchwoodlater dudes
01:23Jack_Sparrowlater
01:23ryancrI could use some help with my atl1 network card driver, i am getting an ip etc but I can not get anywhere no ping etc
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01:23arubinis it relatively simple to install Ubuntu without an traces of X?
01:23brophatbought a linksys wireless nic but it is not connecting to the lan
01:23Pelorunning away from me Jack_Sparrow ?
01:23maybeway36arubin: yes - use "Install a command-line system"
01:23maybeway36on the alternate cd
01:23arubinmaybeway36: thank you
01:23Jack_SparrowPelo: Howdy.. nope
01:23Peloarubin, use the alternate install cd and use the minimal install option or something similar
01:24arubinI'm just investigating options at the moment
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01:24arubinlong time FreeBSD user
01:24boobsbrjack! thank you, it worked!
01:24{Nathan}I need to set ~/bin in my path so I can put my own scripts and such in my path safely. How can I do this (.bashrc?)
01:24Jack_SparrowPelo: Just waving goodbye to torchwood
01:24Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: glad to hear it..
01:24boobsbri was going mad, and i could hear cthulhu calling me and telling me to switch to vista...
01:24PeloJack_Sparrow,  personnaly I can'T wait for torchwood to start again
01:24Perffhi all
01:24Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: You might want to write that down..
01:25PerffI have a question. How do I install grub in ubuntu, if I don't have stage1 file?
01:25boobsbrnever going to forget
01:25{Nathan}Perff: download it. Or run grubinstall
01:25Jack_SparrowPelo: I have them all on tivo.. as well as Dr Who...  which I am watching now... sorry all for the ot
01:25boobsbrneed to write down a reminder to learn the dpkg tool
01:25PeloPerff, grub should have been installed with ubuntu
01:25shane__musikgoat, ok, when I invite them to chat nothing happens. :)
01:25magnetron!grub > Perff
01:25{Nathan}boobsbr: dpkg is _really_ easy
01:25Jack_Sparrowboobsbr: good idea to have a backup as well
01:25Perffsomehow gutsy installer screwed
01:26shane__musikgoat, or join in chat
01:26musikgoathmm shane__ past that, i'm out of ideas, the pidgin channel may have a better answer for you
01:26boobsbrnow, 1 more thing, why is fsck eating 2 minutes of my life every time i boot the laptop?
01:27shane__what is that channel musikgoat
01:27musikgoat /j #pidgin
01:27shane__musikgoat, thanks
01:28warriorforgodI have a webserver running and my isp blocks port 80, so I have apache listen on 81.  Is there anyway I can make it so people don't have to type :81 at the end of the address?
01:28Perff sudo grub-install /dev/sda
01:28Perff/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
01:28Perffhmmm
01:28magnetronwarriorforgod: no. your ISP is effectively stopping that.
01:29PeloPerff, try  sudo grub-install hd0
01:29Perff sudo grub-install /dev/sda
01:29PerffPelo,  sudo grub-install /dev/sda
01:29Perff/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive
01:29Perff sudo grub-install hd0
01:29Perff/dev/sda10 does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
01:29Perffo
01:29Perffthe same
01:29Tomtererwarriorforgod seriously. CHANGE ISP if they harrass you like that
01:29warriorforgodTomterer: Only other thing around here is DLS which I don't want.
01:30PeloPerff, grub uses another skeem to identify hardrives   hd0 = sda
01:30warriorforgods/DLS/DSL/g
01:30Tomtererbut you can get a blabla.no-ip.com address that will transparently connect to your port 81
01:30PerffPelo, and?
01:30Perffboth ways don't work
01:30PeloPerff, hd0,0 = sda1
01:30PerffPelo, i know that
01:30{Nathan}warriorforgod: I think you could get dyndns to do the same.
01:30Tomterer(and no-ip.com addresses are free warriorforgod)
01:30musikgoatyeah Tomterer? i didn't know they can do that
01:30Tomtereryeah exactly {Nathan}
01:30PerffPelo, i know that scheme, but I don't know how to make grub fix my boot
01:30PeloPerff,  my mistake I missread your second post
01:30musikgoatnice
01:31wolsPerff: what is in your /boot/grub/device.map
01:31Shirakawasunahello.  I have a toshiba m115 here that suddenly stopped being able to hibernate properly after upgrading to Gutsy.  It worked fine in Feisty and worked for a little while using the old kernel, but now the older 2.6.20 kernel won't boot.  If I select 'suspend' from the 'log out' dialogue, it does a bit of the process, turns off the screen, then hangs with the computer still 'on'.  This runs down the battery and the only
01:31Shirakawasunaway to continue is to to a hard reboot.
01:31Perffwols it's empty
01:31PeloPerff, get the supergrub cd and do it from te menues
01:31Tomtererunless I'm delusional atm they can musikgoat :)
01:31Shirakawasunadoes anyone have any ideas for figuring out how to fix this?
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01:31PerffPelo, what's that?
01:31wolsPerff: (hd0) /dev/sda  then
01:31Perffwols,  sudo grub-install (hd0) /dev/sda
01:31Perffbash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
01:32wolsPerff: I meant in your device.map, not grub-install
01:32PeloPerff, a boot cd to fix stuff in grub,  it has a menu system ( of sorts ) that will perform various task for you , like isntalling stage 1 and specifying where stage 2 is etc
01:32nickrudJerr, still here?
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01:33Perffwols, nice.. now
01:33Perff sudo grub-install /dev/sda
01:33PerffSearching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
01:33PerffDue to a bug in xfs_freeze, the following command might produce a segmentation
01:33Perfffault when /boot/grub is not in an XFS filesystem. This error is harmless and
01:33Perffcan be ignored.
01:33Perffxfs_freeze: specified file ["/boot/grub"] is not on an XFS filesystem
01:33Shirakawasuna*poke poke*
01:33shane__ok, how about using Kopete and yahoo and a conference?
01:33PeloPerff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
01:33PerffInstallation finished. No error reported.
01:33PerffThis is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.
01:33PerffCheck if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect,
01:33Perfffix it and re-run the script `grub-install'.
01:33kyu_fluxyou guys probably get this all the time, but I want to connect to a vista share anonymously (guest)
* magnetron pokes Shirakawasuna
01:34Pelo!pastebin | Perff
01:34ubotuPerff: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
01:34kyu_fluxwhat I see is how to make it to connect using a specific account - how do you do this with guest?
01:34PeloPerff, http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/SuperGrubDiskPage.html or http://supergrub.forjamari.linex.org/
01:34keithclarkHi everyone!  Glad to report that Ubuntu installed on my laptop with no issues.  Even the ATI and Broadcom work!
01:34Shirakawasunamagnetron: fix this computer!
01:34magnetron!attitude > Shirakawasuna
01:35PerffPelo, thx, i'll try
01:35keithclarkNow, I just have I last question.  How to enable Compiz?
01:35Pelokeithclark, congrasulations
01:35Jack_Sparrow!ccsm
01:35ubotuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
01:35keithclarkThanks Pelo.
01:35Pelokeithclark, menu > system > prefs > appearance,  last tab
01:36PerffPelo, is it possible to run it just supergrub as it is, or i should burn a cd? strange..
01:36Shirakawasunawhat are the chances of using a 2.6.23 kernel in ubuntu without compiling?
01:36wolsShirakawasuna: nil?
01:36keithclarkPelo, says it is not available.
01:36nickrudkeithclark, run  restricted-manager , enable ati restricted. Then   sudo modprobe fglrx  . Log out, log in.   fglrxinfo , be sure you are using ati driver 8.37.6 .   sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl emerald compizconfig-settings-manager , logout , login
01:36PeloPerff, supergrub is a boot cd but I guess you can try and unpack the image to a usb flash drive if you know how to boot from one
01:36Shirakawasunadarn non-rolling-release distro
01:37Pelokeithclark, you might need to insall opengl support,  not quite sure how,  try asking in #compiz-fusion
01:37keithclarkPelo, thanks....I'll look into that.
01:37magnetronShirakawasuna: how much ram and swap do you have?
01:38Shirakawasunalemme check
01:38PerffPelo, it's too complicated.. no simpler way? :(
01:38{Nathan}How do I set ~/bin into my path on startup? I'm guessing it's in .bashrc.
01:38PeloPerff, just burn to a cd and boot from it
01:38Perffi don't need windows and stuff, i just want to fix stage1 and menu.lst and so on
01:38PerffPelo, where could i find a cdddd
01:38Perffat 2AM
01:38Shirakawasunamagnetron: looks like ~450 M ram and 1.3 G swap
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01:39PeloPerff, sigh
01:39wolsPerff: do you use a xfs filesystem?
01:39Shirakawasunamagnetron: this occurs with nothing but the default desktop loaded
01:39Shirakawasuna(GNOME)
01:39Perffwols ext3
01:39musikgoat{Nathan}: add this to .bashrc  export PATH =$PATH:/new/path/to/add:/other/new/path
01:39PeloPerff, make a small partition on your hdd and unpack the iso to it , then boot from that
01:39qwazI have fetchmail set as a cron job to check my work email every 5 minutes. However, I'm getting mail from cron telling me that it did it's job.Is there a way to stop this?
01:39PerffPelo, how could I boot from that partition?
01:39Peloqwaz, lol
01:40ShirakawasunaI'm trying to figure out some ways to determine the problem, but I'm fairly sure it's just this kernel version
01:40wolsPerff: I don't see any error in the outpu you pasted here. are you sure it hasn't installed properly?
01:40musikgoat{Nathan}: then logout and login, and test with $PATH
01:40qwazPelo: am I an idiot?
01:40PeloPerff, nevermind , I ugess i'm an idiot
01:40gvsa123if i download and install unrar from synaptics, it doesn't add an additional program right? it justs adds to ubuntu's default archive manager, the ability to handle rar files?
01:40Shirakawasunaand waiting 4 months doesn't sound so great
01:40wolsqwaz: run fetchmail as a daemon
01:40MoultCan somebody help teach me how to install apps (not in add/remove app program) i'm new to ubuntu
01:40Peloqwaz, no, just a realy cute cunnundrum
01:40musikgoatgvsa123: it installs unrar
01:40nickrudqwaz, add   > /dev/null at the end of your cron fetchmail invocation, that will dump it into a bit bucket
01:40gvsa123Moult: use synaptics
01:40qwazwols: I would prefer to run it as a cron
01:40Perffwols: hmmm... i guess i have to reboot to check?
01:40tretlehey.... does anyone know why upnp isnt working in rhythmbox?
01:40magnetronShirakawasuna: there there are a lot of different laptop models out there, and almost everyone implement their "suspend"-feature differently. so a lot of laptop owners are facing the same problem as you.
01:40musikgoatgvsa123: which works with ubuntu's archive manager
01:40Perffor is there any other way? :)
01:41wolsqwaz: and usually cron mails if there was an error with the cronjob, not otherwise
01:41nickrudqwaz, if you have an error, you should get a mail telling you
01:41PeloMoult, what kind of file do you have to instal from ?
01:41mongo1im trying to connect to my home network but i dont know where to input my information
01:41mongo1wireless network
01:41qwazwols: I was getting an email from cron saying "8 new messages for bla bla"
01:41qwaznickrud: Thanks man
01:41Pelomongo1, menu > system > admin > network I guess
01:41snkmadhow do i know what nvidia driver version i have installed here?
01:41Perffwols thanks i'll try to reboot now...
01:41gvsa123musikgoat: then i can simply right click on a rar file and choose open with archive manager and it'll work just like any other archive
01:41ipx_laptopIs it possible that the latest linux kernel that came in the update manager of ubuntu gutsy gibbon broke my sound drivers?
01:41musikgoatgvsa123: yes
01:41wolssnkmad: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
01:41nickrudqwaz, although wols 's advice about running it as a daemon is a better idea
01:41magnetronShirakawasuna: if you check the ubuntu wiki though, there MAY be info about your model and its linux support
01:42Shirakawasunamagnetron: yes.  I remember finding once that it had to do with the 2.6.22 version, but now I can no longer find that page.  I belive it specifically affected radeon x200m laptops, but not positive.
01:42PeloMoult, http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
01:42mongo1is there any way for ubuntu to search for wireless networks in range?
01:42kyu_fluxdon't see it in the FAQ - how do I connect to an anonymous vista share?
01:42gvsa123musikgoat: thanks
01:42qwaznickrud: I had "fetchmail $> /dev/null" was the $ not needed?
01:42wolskyu_flux: iwlist for example
01:42snkmadwols thx
01:42Shirakawasunamagnetron: I think I'm going to try compiling a 2.6.23 kernel first.  Will I break a whole lot of things that way, like ndiswrapper and the radeon driver?
01:42qwazwols: Why is running fetchmail as a daemon a better solution?
01:42mongo1Pelo: do i want to enable "Roaming Mode" or no?
01:43Shirakawasunamagnetron: fglrx, really
01:43nickrudqwaz, no
01:43wolsqwaz: cause it was designed for it
01:43magnetronShirakawasuna: i don't knom
01:43kyu_fluxwols: iwlist - how is wireless related to it?
01:43musikgoatmongo1: you are trying to file share?  i don't think that menu is going to help
01:43nickrudqwaz, that is, no you don't want the $ :)
01:43Pelomongo1, wireless  I think you want to yes, but I am not an expert on this
01:43Shirakawasunahmm
01:43ShirakawasunaI'd think they would break
01:43wolskyu_flux: have you checked what iwlist is?
01:43qwaznickrud: Gotcha
01:43mongo1no im not trying to file share just trying to connect to my home wireless network
01:43gvsa123musikgoat: so which is better? the free or non-free of unrar?
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01:44kyu_fluxman iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
01:44wolsgvsa123: morally or technically?
01:44Pelomongo1, did you mean you want to be able to connect to the other computers on your home network ? I think you need to use samba for that but again , not an expert
01:44tretleanyone know how to get the upnp plugin in rhythmbox working?
01:44gvsa123wols: lol... technically.
01:44musikgoatgood question, i think i have both installed, i think either one works with archive manager for what you are looking for
01:44jorge__r irc.cl
01:44mongo1no i just wanna connect to my router so i can connect to the internet
01:44Pelo!wifi | mongo1
01:44ubotumongo1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
01:45gvsa123musikgoat: i see...
01:45gvsa123<examines conscience>
01:45wolsmongo1: roaming mode is iirc unencrypted
01:45kyu_fluxwols: man iwlist == gets detailed wireless information from a wireless interface
01:45mongo1i dont know what that means
01:45wolskyu_flux: yes
01:45Pelogvsa123, just sudo apt-get install rar unrar
01:45kyu_fluxwols: i'm not using wireless
01:45musikgoatroaming mode, from what i've seen, allows network manager to manage it
01:45nickrudnicely even
01:45Pelomongo1, iirc = if I recall correctly
01:46kyu_fluxwols: all wired
01:46ipx_laptopThe new update linux kernel broke my sound! No sound card in asoundconf anymore :(
01:46wolskyu_flux: sorry then I mxed up the nicks
01:46kyu_fluxwols: np
01:46gvsa123Pelo: hmmm... but i don't think i need the rar capability... what's with the different archiving format anyway
01:46Peloipx_laptop, review the sound stuff first
01:46Pelo!sound | ipx_laptop
01:46ubotuipx_laptop: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
01:46Pelogvsa123, everyone wants their fav
01:46qwazis it normail for the amount of time Mutt says "Sending mail" to be around 30-40 seconds?
01:47wolskyu_flux: smbmount takes a "guest" option which doesn't prompt for a passwd
01:47MoultPelo: sorry i was afk
01:47qwaznormal...i've got mail on the brain
01:47ipx_laptopPelo: thx
01:47Cr3aturei don't see Ubuntu users doing this: riradio pitää asentaa
01:47ipx_laptopwill look em through
01:47MoultPelo: ok i want to install this thing  http://www.vim.org/download.p
01:47wolsqwaz: depends on mail sizw and badnwith to the MTA
01:47mongo1Pelo: I found this thread but i dont know what its saying to do... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405990
01:47MoultPelo: sorry wrong link http://www.vim.org/download.php
01:47cowlikkwhen i log out and come back to log in i just get a peach screen and a mouse arrow and thats all that happens
01:47qwazwols: This was just a test message
01:47nickrudCr3ature, wrong channel, I'm sure the do in another language
01:47musikgoatgvsa123: alot of people fight about whats better, rar compression or 7lza or whatever it is
01:47Pelomongo1, did you check the links ubotu gave you first ?
01:47qwazwols: MTA is sendmail
01:47wolsqwaz: why?
01:48PeloMoult, vim is already in the repos
01:48MoultPelo: i want to learn more about linux, and i thought by learning how to compile/install manually programs was a good start
01:48mongo1Pelo: ya thats what lead me to that link.
01:48cowlikkso when i am in the peach screen and nothing happens i do ctrl+alt+f5 and do a ps ax and the last thing on that list is gnome-screensaver but the screen saver works fine when i am loged in correctly
01:48musikgoatMoult: isn't vim installed by default?
01:48qwazwols: ? because im a noob
01:48PeloMoult,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
01:48cowlikkcan anyone helpme
01:48gvsa123Pelo: musikgoat: so what's the "default" or preferred archiving format for ubuntu? is there?
01:48wolsqwaz: especially when you are a noob you should NEVER use sendmail
01:48Pelomongo1, give me a minute to read the link
01:48wolsdpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail
01:48qwazwols: im a noob, but not a dumb noob
01:48mongo1Pelo: ok, thanks alot mucho appreciated.
01:48Pelogvsa123, tarball,  they are already availalbe by default
01:48Moultmusikgoat: i do not see any Vim
01:48qwazwols: the sendmail configuration made plenty of sense
01:49musikgoatgvsa123: yeah tar.gz is common
01:49MoultPelo: by the way what repository are you talkign about?
01:49LycoLocohey guys - while I believe that ubuntu is now getting loaded from the bootloader properly, I'm now getting dumped into BusyBox 1.1.3 - anyone have any clue what would cause that? TTY1 just displays "Loading, please wait..." and TTY5 and 8 show BusyBox.
01:49qwazwols: configured mutt, fetchmail and sendmail...im not stupid
01:49wolsqwaz: I tend to disagree. what is the package name of the dpkg command I just told you?
01:49PeloMoult,  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
01:49musikgoatgvsa123: tar creates on long file, and gzip or bzip2 are the popular linux compression formats
01:49Mokilokcan someone please tell me what directory programs like Xchat are kept in my default, so i know where to put my Xchat plugins like obsidian?
01:49gvsa123Pelo: musikgoat: oh.... what about the variations in tar? .bz, gz, ezwizi... lol
01:50nickrudlol, anyone that gets mutt nicely configured is either masochistic or does have an idea
01:50wolsLycoLoco: it couldn't find your / partition
01:50gvsa123musikgoat: oh they;'re different format altogether
01:50musikgoatgvsa123: tar is separate from compressing, don't get them confused
01:50Shirakawasunahmm
01:50Shirakawasunais there an easy way to reinstall an old kernel?
01:50Pelogvsa123, those are all supported natively in ubuntu,  stick with tar-gz for your own archiving I suggest seems to be the most common
01:50Shirakawasunaperhaps a repo keeping legacy versions?
01:50cowlikkcan anyon in here help me
01:50kyu_fluxwols: thanks (I didn't get it to work yet) - it's amazing that I'd have to use smbmount when there's a perfectly good file browser)
01:50qwazwols: you disagree with my assesment of my own intelligence? or you disagree with sendmail's config making sense?
01:50wolsnickrud: if said person uses snedmail without a good reason pretty much narrows it down what he is
01:50gvsa123musikgoat: oh tar doesn't compress?
01:50musikgoatthe tar is just stringing all the files together into one file,  then, compressing it is the next step
01:50LycoLocowols: good to know (seriously) - right now it's using ntldr instead of grub to load, so is there an easy way to get that to work instead of using ntldr?
01:50kyu_fluxwols: but thanks for your help, i'll play around with this a little longer
01:51MoultPelo: what is the use of this package manager?
01:51wolskyu_flux: not saying you can't do ti with the filebrowser
01:51Pelomongo1, I suggest you just follow the instructions in tha tlink , the are a bit over my head
01:51gvsa123musikgoat: i see...
01:51wolsLycoLoco: yes, install it
01:51wolsit being grub that is
01:51nickrudwols, me, if I do local transport I use exim. Brain dead configuration (and I'll accept that appellation)
01:51LycoLocoalready did
01:51musikgoatgvsa123:  the .extention  is just an extention... so you will see   filename.tar.gz  and you will see filename.tgz  which are the same
01:51wolsqwaz: both
01:51qwazwols: what makes you think I'm unintelligent?
01:51mongo1Pelo: :O if they're over your head then theyre certainly over mine ;( hmm maybe someone else can help
01:51LycoLocowols: yeah, I just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and this is the same result that I've gotten 3 times over, sadly
01:51wolsnickrud: I use postfix
01:51PeloMoult,  add/remove and synaptic are both frontend for apt ,  where add/remove only shows you the applications,  synaptic shows you all the packages available, apps, libs,  scritps etc
01:51sunogbagahelp.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
01:51wolsqwaz: your use of MTA
01:51qwazwols: I'm unintelligent because I used sendmail?
01:52MoultPelo: oh ok thanks!
01:52gvsa123Moult: that's where you can find most if not all of the applications you would need in ubuntu
01:52LycoLocowols: for some reason grub isn't taking priority over ntldr, and for the life of me I can't figure out why that would be
01:52qwazwols: are you sure unintelligent means what you think it means?
01:52kyu_fluxwols: any place you can refer me to to read on how to get it to work with the file browser?
01:52wolsqwaz: It's still not sure what you use. cause every MTA on the planet has a sendmail wrapper
01:52ipx_laptopPelo: been reading through and following the troubleshooting-guide now but im pretty sure its after the latest linux kernel update that came from the repos
01:52qwazwols: Ok
01:52wolskyu_flux: I don't do gnome or GUI, sorry
01:52ericHello, I was wondering if I could get some assistance on mounting a fat32 hdd
01:52Pelomongo1, I suggest you skip the big intros and jump to the instructions, if you hit a snag , come back with a specific question
01:52ipx_laptopPelo: you have any clue?
01:52kyu_fluxwols: fair... thanks for your help =)
01:52PeloMoult, did you check this our http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
01:52sunogbagaLycoLoco: you havent installd grup on MBR
01:52sunogbagaLycoLoco: you havent installd grub on MBR
01:52froekany admins online?
01:52musikgoateric do you know what the drive location is?
01:53ericyes Musikgoat
01:53musikgoatlike /dev/sda or /dev/hda ?
01:53sunogbagahelp.. my other nic isn't working after i restarted my box
01:53eric/dev/sdb1
01:53Perffhi all again
01:53MoultPelo: yes. i'm trying to learn how to install for example, a random program online for linux, therefore i have chosen vim to test it out
01:53LycoLocosunogbaga: then I'm not sure how to do that if the installer for ubuntu isn't doing that automatically. It's installing it to hd0, which I'm not sure if that's where my MBR is or not.
01:53wolssunogbaga: your nick being what kind?
01:53musikgoatmount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
01:53ericit is a fat32 filesystem
01:53qwazwell, mail is going out, mailing lists are filtered and sorted, applicable ones are forwarded off to my blackberry
01:53MoultPelo: now i'm confused as to which file i should download in the first place
01:53ipx_laptopHow can I see my kernel version via the terminal easy?
01:53qwazi must have just stumbled into all that
01:53wolsipx_laptop: uname -a
01:53LycoLocosunogbaga: I've got 3 HDDs, two SATA, one PATA, so I'm not sure which drive to point it to install grub onto, and just went with the default of HD0
01:53ipx_laptopthx
01:53Peloipx_laptop, I get the cause, but the fix should still be the same,  start with the basics and go from there,  if your say your card is not present you probably have to install it again, no idea how however
01:53mongo1Pelo: well i tried to download the offline file but it doesn't exist.
01:53musikgoateric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat too
01:54Perffwols, I've rebooted, and now I'm screwed. There's just command-line of GRUB, no menu any more, so I can't even edit the options and manually boot.
01:54wolsLycoLoco: what happens when you install grub? and how do you install it?
01:54qwazgood to see the old linux attitude is creeping its way into #ubuntu
01:54struioHello, all time when I enter on my session/machine to do login, I see 'machine.(none)' how can I have only machine name without none? thanks.
01:54ipx_laptopPelo: ok thx
01:54PeloMoult, hold on
01:54LycoLocowols: I'm just letting the ubuntu 7.10 installer do its thing, nothing special
01:54wolsPerff: chroot into your system again.
01:54sunogbagaLycoLoco: is grub installed in a different HDD?
01:54Perffwols: if I write root (hd0,9) and then setup (hd0), it works nicely, but next reboot I again get to commandline
01:54Pelomongo1, hold on
01:54Perffit looks like I don't have menu.lst or something
01:54MoultPelo: here is the link to the vim download site again http://www.vim.org/download.php
01:54sunogbagaLycoLoco: i mean ubuntu.. is it installed in another hdd?
01:54wolsPerff: what did you boot right now? the ubuntu install?
01:54nickrudqwaz, lol, we gotta have some curmudgeons , otherwise it's no fun
01:55LycoLocosunogbaga: I'm not sure, tbh. I'm not sure what the naming nomenclature of grub is, so I"m not sure if it's on teh same drive as ubuntu or not,
01:55ericsorry guys i got dropped, could you repeat the msdos mount script again?
01:55Mokilokcan anyone who has a minute please tell me where i can find my installed programs like Xchat?
01:55wolsnickrud: the curmudgeons are the sendmail users. they've been around much longer than us exim and psotfix folks
01:55Perffso i have to chat from my laptop :(
01:55musikgoateric mount -t msdos /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint    you could try   -t vfat   instead
01:55PeloMoult, join me in #pelo and wait for me a bit
01:55wolsMokilok: dpkg -L <package name> | grep bin
01:55nickrudMokilok, in general , dpkg -L <pkgname> | grep /bin will show you the executables
01:55ipx_laptopPelo: hehe look what i found :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3979768
01:55ericthank you, ill try that
01:55sunogbagaLycoLoco: try rebooting your box.. each time trying a different hdd
01:55wolsPerff: well?
01:56Peloipx_laptop, congrats,  bit busy atm but good luck with it
01:56aolaushey how can I download an ogg codec?
01:56ipx_laptop=)
01:56serenityUKeric first make a dir such as /media/mountpoint
01:56LycoLocosunogbaga: you mean installing it to a different drive each time or booting from a different drive each time?
01:56Perffhey
01:56musikgoatthanks serenityUK
01:56sunogbagaLycoLoco: boot at a different hdd each time you reboot
01:56wolsPerff: do you want a menu.lst or not? if so answer my questions
01:56Pelomongo1, accept the file , I am sending it to you right now
01:56ericI have my mount point set up
01:56nickrudwols, very true. I spend some time on the sendmail lists when I was doing lfs, moved on to postfix lists because I couldn't stand it
01:56qwaznickrud: anyway, thanks for the /dev/null tip :)
01:56LycoLocook, I'll give that a shot, sunogbaga
01:56ericthe error I keep getting is as follows
01:56mongo1Pelo: try again it was ignored
01:56wolssunogbaga: what NIC?
01:56eric wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,
01:56eric       missing codepage or helper program, or other error
01:56eric       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
01:56eric       dmesg | tail  or so
01:56wols!paste | eric
01:56ubotueric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
01:57ericsorry
01:57serenityUKeric use   -t vfat   instead
01:57sunogbagawols: i remember it was 3com when i first plugged it in
01:57mongo1:( failed
01:57musikgoateric that sounds like its not fat32
01:57LycoLocosunogbaga: thanks for your help, hopefully I'll see ya on the other side : )
01:57wolssunogbaga: answer my question ins auseful manner please
01:57mongo1where did you get the file from and i'll go get it
01:57LycoLocoyou too wols, thanks!
01:57sunogbagaLycoLoco: np :P
01:57ericfdisk says that it is a fat32 win95 lba
01:57ericvfat doesnt work either
01:57sunogbagawols: wait, i'll check the nic
01:58gvsa123 the archive manager still says that rar is not supported..... i got unrar free
01:58qwazwols: dude...relax man...you're not getting paid for this
01:58qwazwols: have some fun, that's why you're here...I would guess
01:58ericive tried to mount as NTFS but that doesnt work either.  I have the hdd connected to a pci sata card.  would that interfere?
01:58aolaushey
01:58wolseric: not with the filesystem
01:58aolausneither mplayer or rhythmbox will play ogg
01:58aolausany thoughts?
01:59ericOn the live cd, the system mounts everything fine.
01:59JeevesMossJack_Sparrow:  are you still here?
01:59mackarillhi guys hope someone can  help me, iv just installed 7.10 on my laptop and in visual effects there is no custom option. I'm using a dell inspiron 6000 and it has share intel graphics.
01:59shane2peruaolaus, is your sound muted?
01:59aolausI have the codec because audacity works
01:59Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: Lurking
01:59serenityUKeric do you use gnome.. you can also mount via icon... goto places->computer and rightclick
01:59musikgoatgvsa123: did you try the nonfree version?
01:59aolausI'm listening to dire straits on this editing program.. it's ghetto
01:59sunogbagawols: yah, its 3com. ethernet adapter... i remember ubuntu recognizing it before I restarted
01:59JeevesMossJack_Sparrow:  ok, sorry, had supper in there
01:59nickrudaolaus, that's very odd, neither use the same codes
01:59ericok im here
01:59aolausaudacity imported the ogg just fine
01:59Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: np.. I was chatting in another channel...
01:59musikgoateric  you got it?
01:59gvsa123musikgoat: not yet. this is not normal?
01:59nickrud*codecs
01:59erichmm
01:59underdawghow do I change my administrator password?
02:00underdawgI'm not seeing it in Site menu
02:00ericwhat do i need to create?
02:00wolssunogbaga: still not answering my question. it's about as useful if i said I have a realtek NIC
02:00shane2peruaolaus, ok, try shutting all sound programs off, and then try and play them?  Sometimes the other sound programs take over the sound card.
02:00aolausperhaps I don't have the "official" ubuntu codecs
02:00musikgoatgvsa, after i installed it, it worked fine...
02:00underdawgwhoops
02:00aolausoy, ok
02:00l21logan99wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
02:00underdawgwrong channel
02:00Perffwols: yep
02:00JeevesMossJack_Sparrow: do you have time to help me figure this Mcencoder thing?
02:00aolaushoy, that worked
02:00aolausthanks
02:00ericim in the computer, i right click, then what do i need to do?
02:00aolauslaters
02:00gvsa123musikgoat: oh there.... i needed the nonfree... hmmm... i wonder why
02:00musikgoatgvsa123: try just installing unrar   not unrar-free
02:00serenityUKeric there should be mount volume in the menu.. it will ask for password
02:01Perffwols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
02:01Perffwols: and it boots into grub commandline
02:01wolsPerff: either you give me the answer I asked you for, or you have to fix your problem on your own
02:01aeGIsjackster: You are too cool.
02:01wolswhat ahve you booted right NOW?
02:01musikgoatgvsa123: I'm not too sure why
02:01jacksteraeGIs: why thankyou :)
02:01gvsa123musikgoat: oh well... whichever works... :)
02:01aeGIsjackster: no problem
02:01sunogbagawols: not really sure what youre saying.. however lspic gave me this Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] (rev 24)... but doesn't show up in network manager
02:01nickrudPerff, translated, that means he can't help you unless he gets useful information :)
02:01aeGIsCan anyone tell me how to make Ubuntu better?
02:02erici dont see an option to mount a drive when i right click in the window for computer...
02:02serenityUKeric are you right clicking on the drive icon?
02:02jacksteraeGIs: take a time machine into the future?
02:02nickrudaeGIs, join your area's locale team, work on the wiki, work with the doc team, become a master of the universe
02:02Perffwols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
02:02Perffwols?
02:02ericoh, for the sdb1?  it isnt showing up
02:02jackstermeh, I still say go to the future
02:02magnetronaeGIs: are you saying you would like to contribute?
02:02jacksterit's like the song, things can only get better :)
02:02aeGIsjackster: is there a deb for that?  apt-get ubuntu-time-machine
02:03aeGIsmagnetron: No
02:03ericdoesnt show an icon in the computer - file browser at all
02:03Jack_SparrowJeevesMoss: ON the phone atm... that should not be hard.. wols or maybe pelo if you can catch him
02:03aeGIsI want the windows to stop being unresponsive when I open more than 4
02:03JeevesMossJack_Sparrow:  ok, I'm going over to the coffee shop again
02:03wols_sunogbaga: 3c59x should be it
02:03wols_Perff: I asked you how you booted right now. either you tell me or fix your stuff yourself. good day
02:03musikgoatall we want to do is eat your brains...  we're not unreasonable, we wont eat your eyes...  jonathan coulton rocks
* |rat| says "Save the cheerleader, save the world!"
02:03l21logan99wols: i am the guy trying to get wireless working. I did what the wiki you showed me told me to do, but i can get the firmware files to "make installfw"
02:04wols_l21logan99: there are errors
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02:04serenityUKeric an empty window?  not even a CD icon and one saying filesystem?
02:04aeGIsoh, and bluetooth capabilities would be nice :)
* nickrud wants to be in |rat| 's movie
02:04erici see two cd drives and a filesystem, but no second hdd icon
02:04l21logan99wols: i just cant seem to get anything to work
02:05sunogbagawols_: how can I use it again? do i just need a reboot or something else?
02:05Johnsonwhen i go to suspend for a long time, i log back in get an an errror message saying computer failed to "hibernate", and then the computer hibernates. any ideas how to fix this problem i have no settings on that tell my computer to hibernate it never should
02:05wols_l21logan99: you can't seem to make proper problem descriptions either
02:05wols_sunogbaga: modprobe it, if it then works put it in /etc/modules
02:05Jack_Sparrownickrud: me too... I worked on Attack of the Killer TOmaotes.. long ago...  can I join in..
02:05h-townhey i got a question about gparted
02:05Jack_Sparrowh-town: sure just ask
02:05aeGIsSabra Hummus is awesome...  I just had the Pine Nuts version.  Tasty!
02:06nickrudJack_Sparrow, absolutely, if |rat| will let us in
02:06calmDoes anyone know when the Flash plugin installation will be fixed?
02:06l21logan99wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme siad, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was no valid
02:06h-towni'm trying to format my vista partition, so that I can use it as a storage partition and comit my pc to ubuntu
02:06aeGIsh-town: Dearly gparted, we are gathered here today to celebrate this thing we call life...
02:06sunogbagawols_: ok
02:06Jack_Sparrowcalm: No idea yet...
02:06nickrudcalm, that is the 64 dollar question here
02:06h-townha, that's funny
02:06musikgoath-town: whats wrong?
02:06aeGIsFlash would be awesome!  It blows without it.
02:06bmt2hello to all
02:07h-towni'm just getting rid of windows
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02:07h-towntired of it
02:07bmt2i am tryin to install LIVES....and it says I need gtk2.0
02:07KNROHello, I'm trying to port a package to Ubuntu, however, I'm having problem. I already have RPM, but need to release it for deb as well, anyone experience in packaing here can help me a bit?
02:07h-townso, in gparted, i've unmounted my windows partition, when I go to format it i have options
02:07musikgoath-town: i remember,  whats wrong with what your are doing
02:07wols_h-town: you STILL haven't told us what the problem is you're having. will you ever?
02:07bmt2i thought i did using synaptic...but the ./configure for LIVES is giving me the same error
02:07Jack_SparrowFlash works, but just for firefox, and you run the risk of the real fix conflicting with the current workaround
02:07musikgoat!fs
02:07bmt2can anyone help !
02:07ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:07chickenFuegoeric, you have a second hard drive, but you don't see it?
02:07ericyes
02:07musikgoat!filesystem
02:07ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about filesystem - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:07Flannelbmt2: Do you have build-essential installed?
* |rat| remember: "You cannot die McCloud, accept it!"
02:07ericcorrect.  its located at /dev/sdb1 according to fdisk
02:07nickrudaeGIs, run cfdisk, change the partition to Linux , then sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sd(a1?)
02:08chickenFuegoeric, please type "mount" in a console and paste the output in a pastebin.
02:08bmt2Flannel: no i do not...what is build-essential ?
02:08wols_bmt2: install the gkt2.0 dev package
02:08Flannel!offtopic > |rat|
02:08Flannel!compile | bmt2
02:08ubotubmt2: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
02:08h-townwell i have options for formating it, what do i select, so that it's ubuntu compatible but will be it's own partitions
02:08h-townpartition
02:08bmt2wols_:can i apt-get install gtk2.0 dev package ?
02:08aeGIsjack_sp: But you don't have the functions...  like on xxxstash.com you can't make the videos go to full screen.
02:08Jack_Sparrow|rat|: It only takes ma an hour to get over to Hollywood/Burbank
02:08Perff<Perff> wols: yep
02:08Perff<Perff> wols: so, I try to boot my linux desktop
02:08Perff<Perff> wols: and it boots into grub commandline
02:08Perff<Perff> wols: and i don't know how to boot manually - all my plays with kernel command finish with kernel panic
02:08Perff<Perff> wols?
02:08Flannelbmt2: Its got gcc and all the standard libs and stuff (and then you'll need gtk as well)
02:08wols_h-town: ext3
02:08musikgoath-town: ext3 is the most common but slow
02:08wols_bmt2: yes
02:08NoorulIslaamoh wow today's naruto is gonna be awesome :P
02:08h-townwell my primary partition is already ext3
02:08chickenFuegoeric: e.g. here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
02:08wols_Perff: you are here, hence you managed to boot _somthing_
02:08musikgoath-town: xfs is faster, but less recoverable on hard shutdowns
02:09bmt2wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
02:09|rat|Flannel: sorry...
02:09wols_bmt2: I will NOT tell people how to use gtk
02:09Flannelh-town: That doesn't matter, you can have all of them ext3 if you want
02:09Perffwols no, I'm chatting with you from windows laptop
02:09wols_erm use apt-get
02:09troythetechguyI'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
02:09bmt2Flannel: can i apt-get install build-essentials ?
02:09wols_Perff: use the livecd then
02:09Perffwols: i can't boot any linux
02:09calmAh. Oh well.
02:09musikgoatbuild-essential
02:09Perffwols: and?
02:09Flannelbmt2: apt-get install build-essential, yes.  no "s" on the end
02:09h-townok i understand, i was worried that ext3 was like number 3 drive and they would merge
02:09wols_Perff: use it
02:09Perffwols: livecd CAN'T boot my hard drive linux
02:09Perffwols: and?
02:09musikgoath-town: no, that wont happen
02:09wols_Perff: it doesn't need ot. you have a linux, it can mount the harddisk, it can chroot into it
02:09h-towngreat, well i'm going to go for it...
02:09chickenFuegoeric?
02:10Perffwols: it will just take me to the same screen with command line of grub...
02:10Perff:(
02:10bmt2okay Flannel i am doing that now..thanks
02:10bmt2you seed that it gives me gcc...but what about gtk ?
02:10wols_Perff: the livecd will NOT do this. think before you type
02:10bmt2wols_: how do i apt-get install gtk 2.0 ?
02:10Perffwols: what is "chroot"?
02:10l21logan99wols: im sorry, I went threw the steps that the bcm43xx readme said, i extracted the firmware file then said make installfw, and the terminal said that it the command was not valid
02:10|rat|sudo apt-get install gtk2?
02:10wols_Perff:  command.
02:10wols_!grub | Perff
02:10ubotuPerff: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
02:11erichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49101/
02:11ericthere ya go
02:11bmt2|rat|: is that all i have to do is : sudo apt-get install gtk2 ?
02:11ericshows both vfat and msdos
02:11ericand my fdisk -l
02:11wols_Perff: instead of running the grub-install in those howtos to install grub after you chrooted, simply run sudo update-grub and you have a menu.lst
02:11Perffwols i read all these docs, and i don't need windows
02:11Perffwols ok it looks like i need to find out what is chroot
02:11wols_Perff: but you need a menu.lst
02:12wols_chroot is a command
02:12wols_"change root" literally. changes /
02:12RenatoSilvaI have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
02:12Perffwols: ok i'll try now
02:12musikgoateric, is it possible that your fat32 is corrupted?
02:12wols_RenatoSilva: upgrading will work too
02:12h-townso i have 2 ext3 partitons plus a space of about 30 gigs unallocated, how do i merge the new ext3 partition with that unallocated space?
02:12RenatoSilvaI have Feisty and want to install Gutsy over it. Backing up my /home will work totally?
02:12nickrudRenatoSilva, yes
02:12Perffwols: thx
02:12erici dont think so.  It shouldnt be.
02:12nickrudRenatoSilva, not required to backup home, but it's as good a time as any
02:12|rat|bmt2: is sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
02:12RenatoSilvawols_: I'm in a dialed conn
02:13wols_h-town: you don't. you resize the ext3 partition to encompass the unallocated space
02:13chickenFuegoeric, did you try without the -t option?
02:13h-townah, ok thanks
02:13ericno i didnt.  ill try that now
02:13wols_RenatoSilva: you can upgrade witht he CD too
02:13Jack_SparrowRenatoSilva: That is gonna take awhile..
02:13l21logan99wols:????
02:13wols_Jack_Sparrow: only if he has a 1x CD drive
02:13RenatoSilvanickrud: so I create a user with the same name and restore the /home/myuser and everything will work fine?
02:13ericthat just gives me a lot of options
02:13wols_l21logan99: either you show us the errors you get or you fix your own problems. your choice
02:13h-townso if i resize it all the way it won't affect my original ubuntu partition? like in the window that pops up with a slider?
02:13ericif i dont include the -t
02:14wols_RenatoSilva: that is bass ackwards
02:14Jack_Sparrowwols_: No.. if he tries to upgrade with dialup
02:14musikgoateric  mount /dev/sdb1 /media/mountpoint
02:14h-townthe slider represents all my free space? or all my total hard drive?
02:14nickrudRenatoSilva, yes. If you're reinstalling completely , you should consider making a /home partition.
02:14RenatoSilvawols_: upgrade from cd? it's a new feature of gutsy don't?
02:14wols_h-town: it shouldn't affect, but if you haven't backed up your stuff it's not important anyways
02:15wols_RenatoSilva: no it's not a new feature. it always wa there. always
02:15ericit tells me i must specifiy the file system type
02:15chickenFuegoeric: try "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
02:15musikgoateric, oh well, worth a shot
02:15RenatoSilvanickrud: not necessary, I have just one user, is it possible to create a different user, restore and rename the profile?
02:15l21logan99wols: i get the error  No rule to make target `installfw'
* nickrud doesn't really trust the upgrade path anymore :(
02:15h-townwell so far so good, thanks for the help guys
02:15chickenFuegoeric: or "mount -t fat32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
02:15wols_l21logan99: what howto do you use?
02:15chickenFuegoeric: or "mount -t FAT32 /dev/sdb1 /media/windows"
02:16gvsa123is there a way for ubuntu to tell you when you have minimized windows in other desktops when you are logging out or shutting down or whatever
02:16wols_chickenFuego: it would be -t vfat. which he already tried
02:16l21logan99wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
02:16ericit says maybe i ment vfat
02:16RenatoSilvawols_: that's funny because I never have noticed it tough desiring it so much. It happens when analysing the partitions right?
02:16wols_eric: dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=bootsector count=1 bs=512
02:16nickrudRenatoSilva, yes, you'll have to chown the files & dirs in your home, but easily doable
02:16wols_eric: then show us the result
02:16l21logan99wols:and i get that error
02:16wols_RenatoSilva: no
02:16chickenFuegoplease paste the output of "mount /dev/sdb1 /media/windows", It shouldn t give options as output..
02:17serenityUKeric try the eqivilent of scandisk....   sudo fsck /dev/sdb1
02:17Jack_Sparrow!broadcom
02:17ubotuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
02:17wols_RenatoSilva: you do not boot from the CD ever when upgrading
02:17aeGIsdon't be a hater
02:17nickrud!upgrade | RenatoSilva
02:17ubotuRenatoSilva: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
02:17wols_RenatoSilva: you ad the CD to your sources.list and do a apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. that's all
02:17musikgoatchickenFuego: he used no t but still added the filesystem the first time, then corrected it
02:17aeGIs!stop unresponsive windows
02:17RenatoSilvawols_: hummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
02:18gnychisI added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
02:18ericwols -  permission denied
02:18wols_RenatoSilva: and that's supposed to tell me what?
02:18l21logan99ubotu: if you are speaking to me then i have already checked there and there is nothing about the problems i am having
02:18wols_eric: use sudo then
02:18nickrudgnychis, ________ isn't a command ;)
02:18RenatoSilvanickrud: hummm, what about if the backup was in a NTFS partition?
02:18Perffwols:
02:18Jack_Sparrowubotu is a bot
02:18ubotuYes, I can confirm that I am a bot. http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots for all information.
02:18aeGIsgynch: you have to put a command in
02:18aeGIsubotu is a bot?
02:18ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is a bot? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:18Jack_Sparrowyes
02:19nickrudRenatoSilva, I beleive you'd need to copy it over to an ext2/3 or other linux partition
02:19Perffwols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
02:19aeGIsOh, I didn't know ubotu is a bot
02:19musikgoatlol
02:19RenatoSilvawols_: hum means hum
02:19l21logan99wols: it says in the bcm43xx readme that i extract the files then i use "make installfw" to properlly place them for use by the driver
02:19gvsa123aeGIs: cool
02:19wols_RenatoSilva: if you want a backup, make a tarfile of what you want ot backup. you can put this easily on a ntfs drive without any problems
02:19chickenFuegoeric - as far as I know, the vfat linux kernel driver can read/write fat16, but only read fat32.
02:19Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: Did you use fwcutter?
02:19wols_RenatoSilva: have a nice day and learn to speak properly. good bye
02:19aeGIsntfs!
02:19musikgoatchickenFuego: i'm not sure if that is correct
02:20l21logan99Jack_Sparrow: yes
02:20wols_chickenFuego: not true
02:20RenatoSilvanickrud: otherwise what'd happen?
02:20wols_musikgoat: it isn't
02:20musikgoatvfat writes fine to fat32
02:20musikgoatok
02:20l21logan99bcm43xx-fwcutter FILE
02:20erichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
02:20Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: What problem are you having, all of those have worked fine for me
02:20serenityUKi use fat32 r/w
02:20RenatoSilvawols_: you too
02:20nickrudRenatoSilva, tarring is excellent advice , it stands for tape archive. Standard procedure for backups
02:20gnychisI added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
02:20l21logan99Jack_Sparrow make installfw
02:20ericthere is the paste for both wols and serenities scripts
02:21l21logan99i get  No rule to make target `installfw'
02:21RenatoSilvawols_: have some sex, you need it I guess
02:21neep2hi need help on setting up wireless connection from laptop to router so i can get on teh interwebs :( can someone plz help me?
02:21wols_eric: can you put up the bootsector file somewhere
02:21RenatoSilvanickrud: good idea that of TAR
02:21Perff<Perff> wols: ok now grub has a menu, but when I select any item it says "can't mount selected partition"
02:21RenatoSilvanickrud: but i'm curious about what would happen
02:21musikgoateric, fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1 ?
02:22wols_Perff: pastebin your menu.lst and your fdisk -l output
02:22Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: Where are you getting the request to make installfw?
02:22KyleSI'm having a weird issue
02:22Perffwols: and if I fix the script (it for somewhat stupid reason set "root (hd0,0)", it kernelpanics
02:22KyleSThe following partially installed packages will be configured:
02:22KyleS  linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
02:22l21logan99in terminal
02:22KyleSAnd it's failing
02:22wols_musikgoat: since it's no vfat or not recognized as such it will eithernot work or destroy data
02:22ericboot sector should be in the same paste
02:22erichttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49102/
02:22l21logan99ohh the BCM43xx README
02:22KyleSErrors were encountered while processing:
02:22KyleS linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic
02:22Perffwols: ok i will
02:22wols_!paste | KyleS
02:22ubotuKyleS: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
02:22KyleSah...sorry
02:23Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: And this is the help page you are using..   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
02:23wols_Perff: and paste ALL the output. not just parts
02:23nickrudRenatoSilva, happen? permissions and ownership isn't carried properly
02:23l21logan99yes
02:23ericyeah its at the bottom
02:23musikgoateric, thats just the dd command
02:23ericmusikgoat, i dont know what that means either
02:23RenatoSilvanickrud: my backup is already as a folder on a NTFS filesystem, I guess restoring it would let the owner as root:root or maybe the current user...
02:23musikgoateric cat bootsector
02:23l21logan99but i got a Restricted Drivers not needed error, so i have to manualy install the firmware in terminal
02:23wols_musikgoat: bootsector is a binary file...
02:23l21logan99via the README
02:23musikgoatoh
02:23ericerr, how do i show the boot sector?
02:23KyleShttp://pastebin.com/d604360af
02:23KyleSsorry bout that
02:23nickrudRenatoSilva, if you haven't started the upgrade/install yet, redo it as a tar.
02:24Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: what did you put into term that generated the error
02:24l21logan99make installfw
02:24wols_eric: that is the problem :(
02:24wols_info ht
02:24l21logan99right after the extraction completed
02:24wols_!info ht
02:24ubotuht: Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.3-2 (gutsy), package size 570 kB, installed size 1556 kB
02:24ericim lost hehe... what is the problem?
02:24Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: sudo aptitude install bcm43xx-fwcutter           that worked or not
02:24ericno boot sector?
02:25ericbad boot secotr?
02:25wols_eric: install ht
02:25l21logan99i didnt do that
02:25ericht?
02:25wols_eric: the bootsector can help us to see if it's actually a FAT drive
02:25l21logan99was never told to
02:25wols_eric: yes ht
02:25ericah ok
02:25Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: that is step one on the page I just linked
02:25erici dont know what that is =/
02:25wols_eric:  package. as I said: install ht
02:25youngis it normal when system booting beeps once, I am using a laptop T43
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02:26Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh              is step 2
02:26wundaboyhas anyone had trouble upgrading 7.04 to 7.10 with the update manager?
02:26l21logan99i do not have any internet
02:26l21logan99that is for an online install
02:26musikgoateric, looks like you have to install tex4ht
02:26gvsa123what's the command to see the devices connected if you forgot the /dev/xxx so you can mount for example.
02:27RenatoSilvanickrud: anotehr question: at job, the upgrade doesn't work. After downloading the upgrade tool, it tells me there was a fault regarding PGP authentication or something like this...
02:27wundaboyim having trouble having it automatically download
02:27ericok
02:27serenityUKgvsa123: sudo fdisk -l
02:27ericim getting those packages now
02:27nickrudRenatoSilva, try sudo aptitide update , then run the upgrade again
02:27Jack_SparrowYOu can download on another machine and copy those files over.
02:27serenityUKgvsa123: that's l for larry
02:27Jack_Sparrowl21logan99:
02:27wols_nickrud: why would aptitude install gpg keys?
02:27nickrudRenatoSilva, if you get the same error, paste it on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
02:27RenatoSilvanickrud: what does this command do?
02:28KyleShttp://pastebin.com/d604360af <---any suggestions with that? :(
02:28nickrudwols_, if his sources hasn't been read recently, they're marked as unauthenticated
02:28XPertKnobTwiddlris there a quick guide somewhere for setting up distcc on ubuntu?
02:28chickenFuego"ht - Viewer/editor/analyser (mostly) for executables" I am curious now..
02:28gvsa123serenityUK: this is the same for devices that are not storage?
02:28RenatoSilvanickrud: I'm going back to job only next year
02:28musikgoatman, that is alot of dependancies for a text editor
02:28l21logan99Jack_Sparrow: you were saying something?
02:29musikgoat!info tex4ht
02:29ubotutex4ht: LaTeX and TeX for Hypertext (HTML) - executables. In component main, is optional. Version 20070717-2 (gutsy), package size 173 kB, installed size 916 kB
02:29NotSoGutsyanybody good with QT ?  #qt isn't respoding
02:29ericht is installed, im getting tex4ht now
02:29gvsa123serenityUK: like webcams, etc...
02:29nickrudRenatoSilva, updates your sources, clears the most common authentication error
02:29NotSoGutsyI'm trying to compile a program, it's throwing a lot of errors, and I'm not sure why
02:29wols_eric: why? that's not needed
02:29kyu_fluxwols: got it - vista guest account wasn't enabled
02:29ericoh
02:29Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: HAve you put a copy of bcm43xx-fwcutter   on that system
02:29kyu_fluxwols_: thanks for helping me out
02:29ericum.. alright
02:29wols_eric: hte bootsector    paste the output of that
02:29mackarillmy firefox stops responding when i go on youtube
02:29chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, you might need to do a "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
02:29l21logan99Jack_Sparrow: yes via the link in that link
02:30Jack_Sparrowmackarill: Flash is broken
02:30RenatoSilvanickrud: my sources were updated through synaptic, and all feisty updates was applied as well
02:30NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: already done
02:30f_0_0anyone able to get their usb camcorder to work
02:30l21logan99Jack_Sparrow: i dont thing you understand, the extraction worked, the install wont
02:30ArsenicHi there!  I'm trying to install a perl script that is requires some Perl Modules.  One of the module is List::MoreUtils version 0.22 and I have v 0.21.  When trying to install the latest version through 'perl -MCPAN -e 'shell' ' it tells me that I have the latest version...
02:30nickrudRenatoSilva, then show the error on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
02:30ericwhoah, it put me in this blue screen with lots of zeros... how do i not break this?
02:30serenityUKgvsa123: there are a few different commands...   lspci   and  lsusb    will list  pci and usb devices... use -v for more detail
02:30gvsa123serenityUK: lsusb!... i remembered now...
02:30chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, can you paste your compilation errors msg?
02:30Jack_Sparrowwhat about a copy of wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o
02:30NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: it throws a lot of errors, mostly ones like "error: invalid use of undefined type ‘struct <name>’" or "error: ‘<name>’ was not declared in this scope"
02:30baudolinohey all - I've somehow borked my ubuntu installation which now boots to a text console login rather than into X, anyone have any ideas of settings that I may have somehow screwed up that could cause this to happen?
02:30wols_l21logan99: what firmware binary did you get from the extraction? and where did you copy it?
02:31baudolinoif I log in and startx all is fine, X just doesn't start at boot
02:31wols_baudolino: your xorg settings
02:31gvsa123serenityUK: yeah... i just couldn't remember... should have a notebook for this....
02:31wols_baudolino: that is the S99gdm symlink
02:31l21logan99wols: i used wl_apsta-3.130.20.0.o which was on my home desktop
02:31ericand how do i copy and paste this stuff?
02:31RenatoSilvanickrud: regarding this I've noticed that always when updating package list it shows me an alert about unauthenticated sources
02:31l21logan99wols: i got it cia a link on the wiki
02:31nickrudbaudolino, if you run sudo invoke-rc.d gdm at the console, do you get the graphical login screen?
02:31Jack_Sparrowl21logan99: or just wl_apsta_o
02:31RenatoSilvanickrud: I'll verify it later
02:31wols_l21logan99: was that file created by the extraction?
02:31chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, some missing libraries? paste it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
02:31serenityUKgvsa123: use -v  for verbose...   yes  I use google notebook to write these down.. can acess form any pc with a browser lol
02:31l21logan99wols:no
02:31musikgoateric, i'm trying to see if i can get any output,  wols_ do you have experience with ht?
02:31nickrudRenatoSilva, yeah, that's the error I'm talking about.
02:31RenatoSilvanickrud: thank you very much for everything
02:31wols_l21logan99: what file DID you get from extraction?
02:31ArsenicHow can know which CPAN mirror i'm getting my perl packages from?
02:32gvsa123serenityUK: so is there a command to list down all commands?
02:32nickrudRenatoSilva, and that is _upgrading_ , not updating. Two different actions
02:32ericim very new to this whole linux thing so im just trying to understand exactly what i need to do.
02:32RenatoSilvanickrud: do you know the download size for an upgrade?
02:32l21logan99wols: a variety of bcm43xx*.fw files in the .tmp folder
02:32finchx6will someone please help me get my sound working in gutsy?
02:32h-townresizing a partition sure take a long time
02:32wols_l21logan99: you need to copy one of them to /lib/firmware. possibly all of them
02:32nickrudRenatoSilva, depends on how much stuff you installed from the net. could be as little as 700mb , or more than 2
02:33RenatoSilvanickrud: yeah, i've *updated* feisty before trying to *upgrade* to gutsy
02:33serenityUKgvsa123: there are too many..   try info xxx   if looking for something... .    also  sudo lshw  is big list of all dectected hardware.. even memory etc
02:33musikgoateric, i've never read a bootsector before, so i'm trying along with you, but i don't know the syntax for ht
02:33ericgot it
02:33wundaboythis is what i get when i try to upgrade: http://pastebin.ca/826261
02:33wundaboyhow do i fix it?
02:33nickrudRenatoSilva, and you got authentication errors? Reminds me, you should disable any non-ubuntu repos before you upgrade
02:33troythetechguyI'm running 7.10 on hp pavilion ze4125.  Computer is running slow, and I was advised to 'killall powernowd', but the command responds with, 'no process killed'.  I ran ps -aux | grep, and the only result is 'gnome-power-manager.  Any ideas?
02:33baudolinonickrud, it would be kdm i guess since im trying to fire up kde at this stage but kk I'll give that a shot, ty :)
02:33wols_eric: pastebin the output of hte now
02:33serenityUKgvsa123:   sudo  lshw    is  the daddy
02:34l21logan99wols: i did copy them all but it didnt work, the README said it needs to be in FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR
02:34erichow do i copy the output?
02:34l21logan99inlib/firmware
02:34serenityUKgvsa123:   (list hardware)
02:34gvsa123serenityUK:  i see.... i'd better go google for basic linux commands.... any manual you might want to recommend... will try those out
02:34ericits in some wierd window
02:34baudolinowols_, there is a s99kdm symlink, its pointing to /etc/init.d/kdm like I'm guessing its meant to
02:34RenatoSilvanickrud: al least a CD-like? Well, it's a bad idea trying to do it on dialed connection rs
02:34l21logan99wols: "After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
02:34l21logan99FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
02:34l21logan99usage by the bcm43xx driver. "
02:34l21logan99After extraction, run make installfw which will copy bcm43xx_*.fw to
02:34l21logan99FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR (which defaults to /lib/firmware) for
02:34l21logan99usage by the bcm43xx driver. An alternative way is using the -w option.
02:34RenatoSilvanickrud: hummmmmmm :)
02:34wols_l21logan99: yes in /lib/firmware. then you modprobe -r your bcm43xx and modprobe it again to load it. then you should have an interface for it which you can configure
02:34nickrudRenatoSilva, oh, yes you are absolutely correct. Unless you're willing to let it run all night for a a while :)
02:34basculegvsa123: linuxcommand.org
02:35gvsa123bascule: thanks.
02:35wols_l21logan99: do NOT paste in here!
02:35RenatoSilvanickrud: in fact I think there is non-ubuntu repos...I'll try it next year, thank you!!!
02:35l21logan99wols: so how do i mobprobe
02:35nickrudl21logan99, did you run that as sudo make installfw ?
02:35wols_l21logan99: modprobe
02:35l21logan99nickrud: yes
02:36nickrudbummer, thought I had fought thru the thicket
02:36gvsa123serenityUK: i like this... lshw.... lol
02:36RenatoSilvanickrud: a night is not enough, maybe a month rs...
02:36aeGIsWould you like an apple pie with that?  Ding fries are done....
02:36l21logan99wols: yes, but you said to mobprobe -r your bcm43xx, what did you mean by "your bcm43xx"
02:36DILhow can i tell which version of Ubuntu is installed on a computer?
02:37NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: sorry that took so long: http://pastebin.ca/826268
02:37wols_I said modprobe. read more carefully. your bcm43xx which is currently loaded but won't work
02:37nickrudDIL, lsb_release -a  in a terminal
02:37erichmm... it is telling me it cant load the configuration file and then it says it is loading a default
02:37DILty
02:37aeGIsdil: system > about
02:37Jack_Sparrowmusikgoat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_Boot_Record   fyi
02:37wols_eric: where is the paste of the htw output?
02:37KyleSnvm~
02:37KyleSfigured it out
02:37baudolinonickrud, just tried sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start, telling me its not the default display manager (although /etc/default-display-manager tells a different story)
02:37Billy_guys ....... while running ubuntu 7.10 with compiz enabled I sometimes at the top window bar of firfox missing. the minimize, maxime & close button are missing, when I hover my mouse over they come back. Is there any solution ?
02:37DILty
02:37serenityUKgvsa123: sorry i looked through my bookmarks cant find the cheatsheet...  there are tutorials I just lost them lol...  I use www.ubuntuforums.org for most things
02:37musikgoatJack_Sparrow: thanks
02:38ericive already said that i dont know how to copy the hte much less get an output from it.  all i see is a blue and green screen with a bunch of 0's
02:38l21logan99wols: so i would type bcm43xx-fwcutter modprobe
02:38nickrudbaudolino, sudo update-alternatives --config kdm   should allow you to set it as the default
02:38Jack_Sparrowmusikgoat: Have you copied it to a file yet with dd
02:38wols_l21logan99: no
02:38Perff2wols http://pastebin.com/m12a53c96
02:38mackarillwoo got utube to work
02:38Perff2http://pastebin.com/m1b7930f6
02:38mrdinklesUsing Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
02:38l21logan99wols: just modprobe
02:38finchx6Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
02:38wols_Perff2: and the menu.lst?
02:38recoyhello! looking for someone to help me set up a TeamSpeak 2 server!
02:38nickrudbaudolino, but but the login manager is desktop agnostic, you can start any desktop from kdm or gdm
02:38NotSoGutsyanybody else want to tell me what I'm doing wrong?: http://pastebin.ca/826268
02:38musikgoatJack_Sparrow: i'm not having a problem, i'm trying to learn to use ht like eric is, based off wols_ guidance
02:39RenatoSilvawhat about ubuntu's promisse "winmodems out-of-the-box" on Gutsy? Does anyone know how things are going...
02:39gvsa123serenityUK: thanks though... trying to look for something i can print out... no need for elaborate descriptions... just what they do basically...
02:39Perff3wols? i got offline, could you plz repeat
02:39sunogbagawols_: thx.. it's working now.. although network manager won't show the devices, which i think i can live with. :D
02:39Jack_Sparrowmusikgoat: ok.. just saw your comment and wanted to link info on the mbr
02:39musikgoatno prob Jack_Sparrow
02:39DILthe lsb_release command is that general linux command
02:39recoyhow do i get set up a server in teamspeak 2?
02:39chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, you are missing the package libqt4-dev or libqt3-headers or lsb-build-desktop3.
02:39ericmusikgoat, how do i get this file to output what i need to copy?
02:39cowlikkcan anyone help me
02:39nickrudNotSoGutsy, you need the right hader files
02:40VB_Pulse9alguien que hable espanol?
02:40nickrud!find qapplication.h
02:40wols_Perff3: which partition has your /boot?
02:40RenatoSilvawhat about ubuntu's promisse "winmodems out-of-the-box" on Gutsy? Does anyone know how things are going...
02:40ubotuFile qapplication.h found in libqt3-headers, libqt4-dev, lsb-build-desktop3
02:40Jack_Sparrow!es | VB_Pulse9
02:40ubotuVB_Pulse9: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
02:40bazhang!es | VB_Pulse9
02:40Billy_guys ....... while running ubuntu 7.10 with compiz enabled I sometimes have the top window bar of firfox missing. the minimize, maxime & close button are missing, when I hover my mouse over they come back. Is there any solution ?
02:40musikgoateric, i'm not able to output anything from the bootsector file either...   wols_  do you know what do do with ht?
02:40VB_Pulse9!es
02:40wols_eric: hte bootsector
02:40ericthats what i typed
02:40VB_Pulse9como entro ahi en los canales en espanol?
02:40cowlikkHELP ME PLEASE
02:40wols_eric: so you get a mostly blue screen?
02:40ericyeah
02:40musikgoatahh
02:40bazhangVB_Pulse9: type /join #ubuntu-es
02:40ericmostly
02:40Jack_Sparrow!caps | cowlikk
02:40ubotucowlikk: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
02:41VB_Pulse9gracias
02:41RenatoSilva!br
02:41ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
02:41nickrudmusikgoat, you see that file search above? You need to go to packages.ubuntu.com and figure out what packages will have the files that weren't found
02:41ericthere is some green, some options, file, edit and so on at the top
02:41recoyneed help with teamspeak 2 server setup
02:41wols_eric: copy it and paste it into a pastebin
02:41cowlikkwell it got your attention
02:41RenatoSilva!sp
02:41ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:41wols_cowlikk: you got my ignore instead. have a niec day
02:41baudolinonickrud, --config kdm doesn't have alternatives, I thought I remembered there being a setting x-display-manager but update-alternatives doesn't seem to want to play ball with that, all I can find related to X are x-session-manager (currently set to startkde) and x-window-manager (set to kwin)
02:41NotSoGutsychickenFuego / nickrud :: the lsb-build-desktop3 is required too, it's rather large for this use alone
02:41chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, the first header file missing is: qapplication.h, just paste this filename in packages.ubuntu.com, under "Search the contents of packages" (second form) and you will see the corresponding package.
02:41RenatoSilva!es
02:41ubotuSi busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
02:41harushimoI can't play dvds on my computer
02:41Jack_Sparrowcowlikk: and got you ignored...
02:41l21logan99wols: im sorry but i am not familiar with modprobe commands
02:41erichow do i copy all of that information?
02:41DILyou all are some smart people!!
02:41cowlikkyou guys are gay
02:41wols_!dvd | harushimo
02:41ubotuharushimo: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
02:41cowlikkget over it
02:41mrdinklesUsing Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
02:41l21logan99!wireless
02:41ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
02:42RenatoSilvaVB_Pulse9:  #ubuntu-es
02:42Jack_Sparrow!ops | cowlikk
02:42ubotucowlikk: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici!
02:42bazhangcowlikk: you got a question?
02:42chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, not sure if you need qt3 or qt4..
02:42baudolinonickrud, but if gdm will work just as well I might see if I can get that to run
02:42ArsenicAnybody can give me a hand with perl packages?
02:42nickrudbaudolino, yeah, the alternatives system seems to get bypassed sometimes,  just try the gdm invocation for now
02:42NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: the site I got the program from says I need 3.3
02:42l21logan99!modprobe
02:42ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:42wols_l21logan99: modprobe -r bcm43xx
02:42ericeverytime i try and copy something, all i get is 'ex4h'
02:42l21logan99ok
02:43l21logan99you said do it twice
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02:43recoycan anyone help me with teamspeak 2 setup?
02:43wols_l21logan99: I did not. "modprobe -r"  is not "modprobe"
02:43chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, which ubuntu distri do you have? type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
02:43wols_recoy: can you ask specific questions?
02:43mackarillcan someone help me please =D, iv just installed 7.10 on my laptop and in visual effects there is no custom option. I'm using a dell inspiron 6000 and it has share intel graphics.
02:43harushimoit says an error occurs on my cd rom
02:43harushimoit can't read from source
02:43l21logan99wols: so after modprobe -r i do modprobe
02:44baudolinonickrud, trying to invoke gdm gives the same result as kdm, it just tells me its not starting because its not the default display manager
02:44recoywols_: how do i set up a server in teamspeak i cant figure it out
02:44cowlikkyou guys all fucking suck dick . haha have a nice day
02:44nickrudmackarill, install compizconfig-settings-manager
02:44bazhangrecoy: what is that? where is the website--do they have a faq?
02:44wols_baudolino: what IS the default display manager?
02:44nickrudbaudolino, hrm, try xdm
02:44Grandslammastercan any one help me with apache
02:44NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: I'm on Gutsy
02:44NotSoGutsyhence my rather clever name
02:44gvsa123??
02:44baudolinonickrud, /etc/X11/default-display-manager claims /usr/sbin/kdm is
02:44wols_baudolino: some VoIP program mainly for games. clan talk for example
02:44baudolinonot sure if there would be another setting elsewhere overriding that?
02:44chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, it might work with qt4, try "sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev" and compile again. paste the errors if any.
02:44NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: I just haven't done anything with QT before this
02:44recoyhttp://www.goteamspeak.com/
02:44wols_baudolino: /etc/init.d/kdm start no workie?
02:44mrdinklesUsing Ubuntu 7.10-- Partitions include sda1 32 gig partition, 12 used/ sda2 extended/ and sda5 swap------ Im looking to install another OS and dualboot it with Linux. How do i go about doing this.
02:44mackarillcowlikk was right i do suck dick XS
02:45recoythe forums are all old
02:45NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: libqt4-dev is already newest version
02:45nickrudbaudolino, doh, dumb me.   sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
02:45ArsenicAnybody can give me a hand with perl packages?
02:45l21logan99wols: i will try that and be back if it does not work
02:45wols_mrdinkles: install the OS and decide which OS has the booatloader. if it's ubuntu, add the other OS to menu.lst. you ahve to do it manually
02:45bazhangrecoy: take a look at the site; do they have a faq or setup instructions?
02:45recoybazhang: they are old
02:45baudolinowols_, nah, it just gives me that line about not being the default display manager so it wont start
02:45baudolinonickrud, kk
02:45wols_Perff: which of your partitions is the linux / one? which one has your /boot?
02:45recoybazhang: already looked at them
02:46bazhangrecoy: what is the purpose of the package?
02:46ericoh well, alright, have a good night everyone
02:46wols_recoy: either you tell us the problem more precisely or I doubt anyone will or can help you
02:46wols_eric: where is the paste?
02:46chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, your make wants qt3: "-I/usr/share/qt3/include"
02:46wols_baudolino: to talk with friends
02:46recoybazhang: its a program like ventrilo but free and for linux
02:47harushimodoes totem read dvds
02:47ericive told you several times that i cant copy the information.
02:47baudolinonickrud, hmm...well, it gave me a choice between gdm and kdm, went with kdm and tried again but same thing about not the default-display-manager ><
02:47mrdinkleswols_: how though, your talking to newcomers-- Ubuntu has the bootloader, i think its grub-- should i start out on Ubuntu or using the live ubuntu cd or the other OS?
02:47Perff_lasthi all
02:47Perff_lastwols
02:47Perff_lastwols_, did you receive my pastebins?
02:47bazhangrecoy: no clue what that means
02:47wols_Perff: which of your partitions is the linux / one? which one has your /boot?
02:47recoywols_:  the problem is it wants me to input a ip address for my "own server" and i dont know how or where to get my ip
02:47chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, is thee a "configure" script available for your program?
02:47wols_Perff: I asked you tons of things and you never answered
02:47musikgoateric,  i'm going to capture a screenshot, and have you compare it
02:47Perff_lastwols_: all on /dev/sda10
02:47NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: no there is not
02:47ericalright, thanks musikgoat
02:47Perff_lastwols_: and while i run update-grub it said "Cannot determine root device.  Assuming /dev/hda1
02:47Perff_last"
02:47kjmdoes ubuntu have better HFS or UFS support?
02:47chickenFuegowell, the package libqt3-headers should do the trick.
02:47baudolinonickrud, im thinking there'd have to be a setting somewhere that supersedes /etc/X11/default-display-manager
02:47nickrudbaudolino, that's a bug then.  Search bugs.ubuntu.com for bugs filed against kdm , file one if you can't find it
02:47wols_Perff_last: then change the groot line in your mneu.kst to (hd0,9) and run update-grub again
02:48orkunhey there. when i use ndiswrapper i can connect to my only wpa2 network. i cannot connect to wep networks(it just asks me again for enryption). when i try to connect to my only wpa1 router, it kills it for 1-2 minutes(every client loses internet connection). using native drivers(rtl8187b-modified) ONLY wep works - but the driver is really buggy. connectivity etc. is not shown. using ndiswrapper i CAN connect to wep networks using iwconfig withou
02:48orkunt ANY problems. how come networkmanager cant handle it? using wicd does not help either, as it does neither work with "wepkey" nor with wepkey entered. how come there are noooooo tools available on this purpose? i mean, don't they have to simply follow 3 to 4 command-line commands? instead people get confused having to choose between 10 kinds of encryptions hex/ascii etc. i miss the way mac does it by simply asking to enter the protection key, a
02:48chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, look at this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=qapplication.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=gutsy&arch=i386
02:48wols_Perff_last: menu.lst rather
02:48mrdinkleswols_: also, when i put in the other OS and run the installation, it only shows hd1 to install on-- I dont want it to overwrite ubuntu
02:48orkuns routers cannot have both wpa and wep activated. why should the user bother? any solutions to get nm to work with wep encrypted networks. i see some people having that problem. any alternatives to nm? somewhere i read, nm should be used with wext only. best regards and i appreciate your help!
02:48kjmorkun - learn how to be concise
02:48wols_mrdinkles: that's not our problem but the other OS' problem. ask their support
02:48baudolinonickrud, lol just got it
02:48recoybazhang: can u tell me how to find my ip cuz im a newbie lol
02:48musikgoateric http://img212.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshottimcompy386lwp9.png
02:48baudolinonickrud, my default-display-manager file was pointing to /usr/sbin/kdm
02:49RenatoSilvahow do I do to clean all messages?????
02:49nickrudbaudolino, what did you find?
02:49ericlooking now
02:49baudolinonickrud, but 'which kdm' returned /usr/bin/kdm
02:49harushimo!dvd
02:49ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
02:49orkuni apologize
02:49wols_recoy: ifconfig. won't be the right one if you are behind a router. use http://whatismyip.org then. or wimply do a /whois recoy
02:49kjmRenatoSilba = messages from what/who/where?
02:49ericNo, my bootsector is completely blank
02:49mrdinkleswols_: fine, but how can i make a separate partition on ubuntu, that the other os can install on?
02:49baudolinonickrud, and when i changed the default-display-manager file to /usr/bin/kdm its now fine
02:49nickrudbaudolino, yup, that is a bug alright.
02:49baudolinonickrud, just wish I knew what triggered it heh
02:49wols_mrdinkles: with gparted or cfdisk
02:49ianqdoes anyone know how i can restore the privilege table in mysql on ubuntu?
02:49musikgoateric, ok this is what a fat32 bootsector should look like
02:49chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, and edit the MakeFile and replace "/usr/share/qt3/include" with "/usr/include/qt3/"
02:50recoywols_: alright ill try it
02:50wols_eric: consisting of zeros?
02:50mrdinkleswols_: using gparted-- do i need to be unmounted to make a partition?
02:50ericyes wols
02:50kjmtrying to share a external drive between OS X and Ubuntu - HFS support in ubuntu is lacking - how is UFS support for read/write?
02:50wols_eric: then the sdb1 is most likely not formatted
02:50mrdinkleswols_: if its unmounted-- should i use the ubuntu cd, install gparted then unmount ??
02:50erici have files on it... thats really wierd
02:50musikgoatwhy would fdisk see it?
02:50baudolinonickrud, thanks a bunch for the help :)
02:50Perff_lastwols_: i changed groot to hd(0,9), uncommented, rerun update-grub - but it reset everything (same menu.lst, and groot back to hd(0,0))
02:50baudolinowols_, and you ty as well :)
02:50NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: I installed that lsb-build-desktop3 package, and it seems to be compiling now
02:50musikgoateric, do you have another computer?
02:50nickrudbaudolino, you mean the hand holding, you fixed it yourself :)
02:51NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: just really, really slowly :P
02:51wols_mrdinkles: what is unmounted? if you create a partition it is from unallocated space you cannot unmount since it was never mountable
02:51ericnot here
02:51baudolinonickrud, lol well yeah pretty much :P
02:51finchx6Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
02:51wols_Perff_last: I did NOT say to uncomment it
02:51baudolinonickrud, got me thinking in the right direction :)
02:51Perff_lastwols_: ok
02:51mrdinkleswols_: so using gparted-- wilst on ubuntu, i can make a new partition of free space? and then install the other os on that separate partition?
02:51Perff_lastwols_ didn't uncomment now. changed. still the same result
02:52wols_mrdinkles: sure. but the other OS should be able to partition on its own
02:52Perff_lastwols_: no, sorry
02:52serenityUKwols_: i think eric said he could see the drive using the livecd?
02:52Perff_lastwols_:not completely the same... funny:
02:52Perff_lastroot            (hd0,9)
02:52Perff_lastkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
02:52ericyeah i could see it using the livecd
02:52ericthis whole thing doesnt make any sense
02:52Perff_lastwols_:root is crazy, I don't have IDE disks
02:52wols_Perff_last: paste the full groot line as you edited it please
02:52mrdinkleswols: When i attempted to let ubuntu partition itself it overwrote windows, i just dont wanna lose ubuntu =/
02:53Benititoanybody successfully got the Ipod Nano syncing with ubuntu? (gtkpod / rhythmbox ) ?
02:53Perff_last# groot=(hd0,9)
02:53smultronwhat's a virtual package (in terms of aptitude's search output)
02:53chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, I found the webpage of the software you are compiling. It seems quite simple. making lists of files.
02:53wols_Perff_last: delete the kopt_2_6=root line
02:53NotSoGutsychickenFuego :: it seems to be working now :)
02:53musikgoateric,  seems odd,  maybe testdisk would help
02:53NotSoGutsyI know it's simple, the version I made didn't work nearly as well as this one seems to, though
02:54nantaxim using opera as my main browser (system-preference-preferred application)... i recently installed the gimp help files and when i open it, it pops up in firefox, how do i change this?
02:54wols_mrdinkles: again, not a ubuntu problem
02:54chickenFuegoNotSoGutsy, cool ;-)
02:54ericis that another package?
02:54kitchesmultron: it installs other packages it's doesn't have anything in it just installs other ones to make it easier to install more then one really
02:54musikgoateric  http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
02:54Perff_lastwols_: ok
02:54Benititonoone experience with Ipod's ( NANO ) with Ubuntu ?
02:54Perff_lastwols_: now I have
02:54Perff_lasttitle           Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
02:54Perff_lastroot            (hd0,9)
02:54Perff_lastkernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=220a0303-5841-4f18-a364-a53b105690c1 ro quiet splash
02:54Perff_lastquiet
02:54RenatoSilvahow do I do to clean all messages?????
02:54smultronkitche: ah, ok. makes sense. do you know what the 'p' and 'c' stand for too?
02:54Perff_lastwols_: does it look like it should work?
02:54wols_Perff_last: how often have you been told not to spam in here?
02:54RenatoSilva!clean
02:54ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about clean - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
02:54wols_yes it should work
02:55RenatoSilvahumm
02:55musikgoateric you could try running that to recover your bootsector
02:55erichmm... not sure how to work with tars but ill check the repo's for a copy
02:55basculeRenatoSilva: what messages?
02:55wols_Perff_last: if the UUID is the right one that is :)
02:55RenatoSilva "/clear"
02:55RenatoSilvanice!
02:55ZoohouseI installed Compiz-kde along with all the other files. Where do I configure compiz? I kinda ran compiz from konsole then closed it and now I don't have title bars...
02:55Perff_lastwols_ : thanks. ok next time i don't paste more than... (how many lines? 2?)
02:55Perff_lastwols_: going to reboot to check. thanks much
02:55RenatoSilvabascule: these messages we write
02:55serenityUKZoohouse: you need to install  compizconfig-settings-manager
02:55basculeZoohouse: alt+F2 --> compiz --replace
02:55RenatoSilvabascule: "/clean" :D
02:56basculeRenatoSilva: yes /clear will do it :)
02:56RenatoSilvabascule: "clear"
02:56RenatoSilvabascule: so nice uahauhsuh
02:56UbuntMeHi
02:56basculehey
02:56UbuntMeHow do i romove a folder
02:56musikgoatbut eric, i'm not familiar with that utility, my buddy at work used it to recover his data from an accidently formatted ntfs disk
02:56Zoohousebascule, now i don't have a kicker... lol
02:56UbuntMelike, if i wanted to remove /usr/lib/vlc/visualization
02:57basculeZoohouse: alt+f2 -> kicker
02:57UbuntMehow do i remove that from a terminal?
02:57musikgoatUbuntMe: rm -r /usr/folder
02:57erichmm alright
02:57Zoohousebascule, alt + f2 doesn't work anymore..
02:57UbuntMethanks, merry christmas!
02:57chickenFuegoUbuntMe, if the folder is empty: rmdire /mydir
02:57UbuntMetks!
02:57chickenFuegoUbuntMe, if the folder is empty: rmdir /mydir
02:57basculeZoohouse: oh ... that's problematic, restart desktop
02:57Zoohousei will try ctr+alt+deleate...
02:57Zoohousebrb
02:58serenityUKZoohouse: to restore type   metacity --replace    for gnome....    or  kwin --replace    for kde
02:58serenityUKdamn
02:58happy1What filesystem do i use to mount a dvd?
02:58basculeauto
02:58chickenFuegohow do I select a default user in gdm?
02:58musikgoathappy1: i think scd0
02:58basculeor iso9660 or udf depends really
02:59Zoohousebascule,  Everything is back to normal :)
02:59happy1i tried -a and it rejected it
02:59ericwell, ill have to work on this later.  thanks wols, musik and serenity and whoever else.
02:59chickenFuegokdm selects the last one automatically.
02:59basculeZoohouse: excellent
02:59Lobinhohello, im getting a weird effect where my cursor will snap to snap to seemingly random places when i close a window or change between windows? any way to get rid of this behavior?
02:59musikgoatgood luck eric
02:59basculeZoohouse: alt+f2 -> compiz --replace
02:59chickenFuegoI managed to have a user list in gdm ,, but no default selection.
02:59jijutmhi all, during the past six months, I have successfully migrated our web application dev team to ubuntu.. Now I wish to do the same for the java team also.. what should i look into first
02:59ericthanks
03:00baudolinohey all again, worked out that throwing a link in /home/$USER/.kde/Autostart will cause it to start when I log my account in, is there anywhere I could put it to get it to start when X first fires up (thinking setting up X11 for remote logins)
03:00serenityUKjijutm: there is a new version of netbeans just out..  6.0    made by sun especially for java dev
03:00basculejijutm: what editor/IDE do they use
03:00jijutmnetbeans
03:00chickenFuegojijutm, I am developping with java on ubuntu. Where is the java team programing on now?
03:00jijutmyea
03:00jijutmall the guys are having exp only on win platforms
03:01Notoshello some one wants to help me se up a Raid0
03:01chickenFuegojijutm, ok, which ide are they using?
03:01basculejijutm: should be easy enough for them to use the same IDE :)
03:01jijutmnetbeans
03:01serenityUKjijutm: netbeans is for linux too!
03:01LetterRipHi all, any suggestions for scaling of the distance moved for the mousepointer by the touchpad in a single stroke?
03:01basculeNotos: is that mirror or linear, I forget all the time
03:01jijutmi heard that netbeans is having an integrated tomcat
03:01LetterRipcurrently it takes 6 or 7 finger strokes to move my mouse pointer from one side to the other
03:01poppy75how can i access a connected samba share via the terminal like "cd samba", i can get to it by going to places and network i just dont know how in the terminal
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03:02jijutmwill it create prob when run as a user ?
03:02chickenFuegojijutm, I can only say that the eclipse integration is pretty perfect as soon as you know where to select sun java instead of the gcj..
03:02kitchepoppy75: with smbclient
03:02Zoohousebascule, thanks, it is working now :)
03:02Notosbascule: im not realy sure im just following a guide i found
03:02basculeZoohouse: welcome
03:02musikgoatbascule: raid0 is striping
03:02jijutmcF: i think i should try both
03:02kitchepoppy75: but you can mount it to a directory as well if you wish
03:02chickenFuegoIt might be the same crap with netbean. gcj by default with ubuntu for licenses reasons.
03:02basculemusikgoat: heh, wrong from me on both counts
03:02poppy75how do i mount it to a dir?
03:03basculeNotos: what are you trying to achieve?
03:03jijutmpoppy75: you use smbclient
03:03Notosbacule, Join to 500gb SATAII hd into one magnificent 1tb hd :)
03:03finchx6Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
03:03jijutmpoppy75: mount using smbmount
03:03basculeNotos: that's linear
03:04happy1question:  how to fix mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist ?
03:04musikgoatNotos: for what reason, you are doubling your chances of data loss?
03:04Notosi like my hd tidy
03:04musikgoatok
03:04jijutmhappy1: find your device by checking dmesg
03:04qwerty121hi all! how can i install a grub splash?
03:04musikgoatNotos: i think jbod is what you want, iirc
03:04jijutmthen create a link to that device in /dev; or even better mount the device
03:05basculeNotos: using mdadm is trivially easy, but there will be a need to format both drives after wordis into one volume
03:05harushimoI finally got the dvd playing
03:05poppy75so to access via terminal i have to mount it manually or add the share to /etc/fstab
03:05harushimothank you
03:05gravemindhey - I accidentally removed the spacer from the toolbar, and now I don't see the wireless manager anymore -- how can I get it back?
03:05finchx6Anyone?? no help with the sound?? I've been trying to get this working since yesterday afternoon.  I'm running Gutsy, and the sound that won't work is a Sigmatel STAC 9200
03:06musikgoatNotos: if you are wanting it to be easier to recover if a disk goes bad, i would suggest the linear method,  jbod   not the striping method raid 0
03:07serenityUKgravemind: right click on space in panel and choose  add to panel?   i think you want the notification area...  network manager will start when u login
03:07musikgoatadditionally, you cannot use true raid 0 on two different sized disks
03:07gravemindserenityUK: thanks,
03:08finchx6so..  i'm taking this as a no??
03:08gravemindyeah that's in!
03:08gravemindI thought it was spacer
03:08basculefinchx6: no one seems to
03:08Notosmusikgoat, yes im looking at wikipedia jbod its what i want now... how to archive it under ubuntu 7.10
03:08Guest10108408Hello
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03:08HolyAvengerd/oh
03:09serenityUKgravemind: i deleted my whole bottom panel before lol..  you can recreate by choosing new  anel
03:09haiti3052pac
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03:09gravemindhaha
03:09gnychisI added myself to the "sudo" group, however when I type "sudo ______" it does nothing, it does not return me a password prompt or anything
03:09wols_finchx6: ran asoundconf? the driver sould be snd-intel-hda
03:09musikgoatNotos: is this going to be separate from your OS, or do you want to install Gutsy on to the spanning disks?
03:09nadioWhere can i find loggs about ethernet connections?
03:09finchx6the only thing that comes up when I run that is NVidia
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03:10finchx6or, I mean, when I run asoundconf list    all it returns is Nvidia
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03:11Notosmusikgoar: i am going to install ubuntu on the disks just ubuntu no windows at all
03:11chickenFuegonadio, sudo tcpdump -i eth0
03:11tazzhow do i get a list of unmainitaned packaes for ubuntu? Somthing like http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned
03:11nadiochickenFuego: Yes but is this logged anywhere?
03:11nadiochickenFuego: logged by default, for say example for iptables
03:11sonichi
03:12soldatshi
03:12chickenFuegonadio, dunno sorry.
03:12musikgoatNotos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279134  this isn't alot of help but it says to start with the alt install disk
03:12sonicmy name is sun yong le china
03:12Condoulowho here knows how I can do dotted tabs in Openoffice.org?
03:12basculenadio: it depends of you had --log set in iptables rule(probably not)
03:12sexcopterhi, in rhythmbox, is there a way to exclude a subfolder from the library (thinking: not have audiobooks in the library but contained in my audio folder)?
03:12nadiochickenFuego: okey thanks anyway for your help and time :)
03:12Condouloheya Lumpy. :)
03:13nadiobascule: No I was just asking if it does that by default.
03:13chickenFuegonadio, you can use etherreal to write to log files.
03:13basculenadio: no, you have to state it
03:13musikgoatNotos: maybe this as well, looks more how to'ish http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem
03:13Picitazz: Let me ask a dev about it...
03:13chickenFuegonadio, ethereal with one "r"
03:13l21logan99wols: i tried what you suggested with the modprobe -r, then the modprobe and on modprobe i got a FATA l ERROR- Operation  Not Permitted
03:13Notosmusikgoat, lets see....
03:14nadiobascule: thanks
03:14nickrudtazz, as I understand it, there's only the core developers and the masters of the universe, no one person is "owns" a package like in debian
03:14onatshow do i add a keyboard shortcut to the show desktop command?
03:14nadiochickenFuego: I know of that app :)
03:14wols_l21logan99:start to think
03:14nadiochickenFuego: but thanks anywa
03:14finchx6wols: i tried going through what they mention on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=614903&highlight=MT3421  with no luck
03:14tazzah i see
03:15l21logan99wols: start to think about what?
03:15nibsa1242bHello, I need someone to help with a DVD burning issue. Ubuntu refuses to recognize that there is a blank DVD-R in my burner. I have used normal DVDs, DVD+RWs, and DVD-RWs and DVD-Rs from this same spindle in the past, and tried multiple disks in an attempt to pin point the problem. Any ideas?
03:15wols_l21logan99: what you are doing. using your brain once in a while really helps
03:15poningrunibsa1242b: that sounds like a dvd driver problem
03:15l21logan99wols: i appreciate the help and understand that i am pretty bad at this stuff, but i tried doing it under "root" and "sudo: and nothing worked
03:16poningrunibsa1242b: can you burn this type of dvd in the dvd drive in windows? or another os?
03:16Notosmusikgoat, so should i desactivate the Raid i set up on the bios?
03:16poningru!ndiswrapper
03:16ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
03:16Picinickrud: ack, you stole my answer (I was asking a motu for tazz)
03:16nibsa1242bponingru: I've used the same exact brand of disk from the same spindle on this same drive in the past. I can burn this type of dvd in windows, and I've done it in Ubuntu before.
03:16wols_l21logan99: sudo mpdprobe -r bcm43xx"
03:16l21logan99i did that
03:16judgementnetwork problem. can someone help?
03:17Syco54645i just installed gutsy and now any time i go to youtube it says that i need codecs... how can i fix that?
03:17l21logan99it worked but then the sudo modprobe failed
03:17basculel21logan99: it won't let you remove a module that is depended upon by others, in lsmod you can see the dependees listed in brackets of a given mod
03:17nibsa1242bponingru: However, I'd rather not reboot just to burn dvd. I don't use windows for much of anything anymore, and I don't know if I currently have dvd burning sw installed.
03:17chickenFuegojudgement, paste the output of "sudo ifconfig" and describe your problem plz.
03:17poningrunibsa1242b: how are you attempting to burn it?
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03:18l21logan99bascule: ok, so i am getting frustrated. what do i have to do to get the wireless working?
03:18poningrunibsa1242b: as in what software?
03:18nibsa1242bponingru: I've tried with k3b & Brassero, both applications I've used in the past. I'm trying to burn from an iso I created earlier today (and burned to a DVD-RW).
03:18poningruk3b? gnomebaker?
03:18l21logan99wols: what should i do to fix my current problem?
03:18paladin_hi
03:18nickrudPici, didn't see your reply to him, sorry
03:19poningrunibsa1242b: can you right click on the iso and do burn to disk?
03:19musikgoatnotos, if your mobo has hardware raid, that is different than the LVM software raid I'm discussing
03:19poningruwhat error does it give?
03:19judgementchickenFuego: well i have a router w/only one network plug in it. i tested out both pc. and they connect to the internet. but when i try to connect to the internet thru this pc it doesnt work
03:19Picinickrud: Nah, just joking around, thanks :)
03:19wols_l21logan99: ifocnfig down the interface it currently provide. or simply reboot
03:19wols_l21logan99: for you, a reboot is easier me thinks
03:19paladin_I am trying to get my laptop to connect to my wireless network, but i cannot, since i choose not to broadcast my SSID
03:19musikgoatNotos: hardware raid is probably better, but i have my doubts
03:19Jack_SparrowPici: got a sec in ops...
03:19LjorringI got proprietary drivers for radeon 9600 installed, and I got xgl installed. do I need to install more for advanced desktop settings enabled? I cant get it to work!!
03:19nibsa1242bponingru: I'll try gnomebaker, never used it before. I think it'll give the same error. I don't even get the message when I insert the blank media about burning to it.
03:19harrisonypaladin_: in the wireless options you can type your ssid in
03:20l21logan99wols: ill try that, and should i do all the commands again?
03:20paladin_I looked up the documentation pages, and wpasupplicant, however i cannot see my network manager
03:20paladin_on the panel
03:20paladin_how do i add it?
03:20ogrehow do I re-enable nm-applet? I messed it up somehow
03:20basculepaladin_: just type it in, in wi-fi amnagement thingy say manual configure and go from there
03:20finchx6ok..  how do i use a makefile??
03:20nickrudLjorring, did you modprobe fglrx or reboot?
03:20poningruogre: just do alt+f2 and then type in nm-applet and press enter
03:20musikgoatfinchx6: cd dirwithmakefile/ && make && sudo make install
03:21basculepaladin_: ah, no networkmanger dock, well
03:21paladin_i do not have a wi - fi management thingy
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03:21paladin_yeah
03:21poningrufinchx6: what are you trying to install?
03:21Ljorringnickrud: how do I modprobe?
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03:21finchx6these sound drivers released from alsa
03:21nibsa1242bponingru: I'm wondering if it might be a permissions/ automount issue. However, I can't remember how to check that.
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03:21poningrufinchx6: you should probably install build-essential first
03:21poningru!buildessential
03:21nickrudLjorring, sudo modprobe fglrx , log out, log back in. If all is good, you should be able to enable the effects
03:21ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
03:21geoffthefishHow do I change the way that my filesystem/devices are set up?  I have 400Gb on /home /dev/sd8 but only 5GB on / /dev/sda6, can i change this?
03:21finchx6!buildessential
03:21poningru!build-essential
03:21ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)
03:22chickenFuegojudgement, I can't help for routing problems...
03:22finchx6!build-essential
03:22paladin_right now i'm using an ethernet cable in a different room, however it isn't a permanent solution
03:22basculepaladin_: alt+f2 and then type in nm-applet
03:22Notosmusikgoat, yah im thinking im going the Raid Way
03:22kyeinstalling another os with vmware does windows play games well on vmware?
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03:22basculekye: no
03:22paladin_bascule: doesn't work
03:22gravemindkye: it's emulation
03:22gravemindemulation = bad
03:22nickrudkye, not at all (the directx or opengl ones)
03:23basculepaladin_: run it from a shell instead of f2, see if there is any output
03:23ogreponingru:*  well i guess nm-applet is working I just cant see any wireless connections
03:23kyethank you
03:23musikgoatNotos: there is hardware raid, which you seem to have on your mobo, and there is the software raid we were discussing,  the hardware raid would have nothing to do with ubuntu and you have to set that up within the BIOS or raid utilities
03:23Ljorringit didn't do it...
03:23nibsa1242bponingru: I've got gnome baker, I'm trying to figure out how to use it to burn an iso.
03:23judgementits not routing. i'm just trying to share the connection of this computer w/another computer
03:23Ljorringwhen I type 'fglrxinfo' in console, it logs out
03:23nickrudLjorring, ok. Do you have any compiz effects working?
03:24nickrudlogs out? you mean the terminal closes ?
03:24basculejudgement: you need to setup a packet forwarding firewall
03:24chickenFuegojudgement, you can do that with iptable and ipchain...
03:24Ljorringno, my whole interface is running graphically 'slow', like graphics is using no drivers
03:24ogrenm-applet isnt showing me my wireless connections. any idea how to fix it?
03:24nibsa1242bponingru: ok, I found the option and tried to burn it and it said ":-( /dev/hda: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0"
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03:24yimmmywhats up guys
03:24nickrudLjorring, how did you install the accelerated driver?
03:25yimmmyi love ubuntu
03:25yimmmyjust came here to tell every one
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03:25bazhangyimmmy: you got a question?
03:25basculeyimmmy: ubuntu loves you back :)
03:25DARKGuylol
03:25LjorringI downloadet a package from the www.ati.com and compilated it
03:25LiraNunalol
03:25paladin__bascule: there is no output
03:25LiraNunalol
03:25Ljorringbut I dont think it worked
03:25LiraNunaeh
03:25judgementok thanks alot. time to dig for gold
03:25LiraNunasystem lag
03:25LiraNunavirtual machines sucks cpu
03:25bazhang!enter | LiraNuna
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03:26yimmmythanks i dont have a questoin just trying out x chat
03:26LiraNunahmm?
03:26yimmmyseems nice
03:26nickrudLjorring, erm. Did you do the --buildpkg Ubuntu/gutsy method ?
03:26basculepaladin__: well  that snookers things a bit, need to use iwconfig
03:26ubotuLiraNuna: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
03:26DARKGuyit -is- nice
03:26DARKGuy:D
03:26Ljorringthat one fails
03:26ogrenm-applet isnt showing me my wireless connections. anybody have any idea how to fix it?
03:26nibsa1242bponingru: I'm googling that error msg now. Lots of responses, maybe one of them will help me fix it.
03:26Ljorringjust a sec and I will fetch the error message, ok?
03:26LiraNuna*sigh* that wasn't meant to be sent here anyhow.
03:26nibsa1242bogre: if you are on a laptop, make sure the wireless card is turned on
03:26basculeogre: is the wi-fi switched on. just a thought
03:27paladin__bascule: sorry, just needed some time i guess "** Message: <information>       You are now connected to the wired network."
03:27tazzPici, nickrud so who has the responisebility of updating a perticular package? The entire MOTU team?
03:27ogrenibsa1242b:*  bascule  I dont have a switch to turn it off on my lappy
03:27paladin__because right now i'm using wired but in a different room
03:27basculepaladin__: are you o
03:28basculehmm
03:28n3rdboiAnyone got a second to help a n00b with an install question?  I'm trying to install curl on 5.04 but I can't find the package.
03:28thor.
03:28Ljorringthe result : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49106/
03:28nickrudLjorring, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide , start up with where it talks about blacklisting the old fglrx.
03:28bazhangn3rdboi: 5.04? that is no longer supported
03:28IdleOne!info curl edgy
03:28judgementchickenFuego & bascule: what do we call this kind of configuration so i can search for solutions online?
03:28nibsa1242bogre: you don't have an FN+(some key) combo that turns it on and off? or a wireless light somewhere? (if its a built in card that is normally standard)
03:28ubotucurl: Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHER server. In component main, is optional. Version 7.15.4-1ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 256 kB
03:28n3rdboisigh.
03:28Notosmusikgoat, yes i know but aparently i have to set up it with dmraid as this guide states http://wiki.eyermonkey.com/My_Ubuntu_(7.10)_Installation
03:28yimmmycould some one throw me a compiz instalation guied?
03:28chickenFuegon3rdboi, for packages issues: check http://packages.ubuntu.com
03:29basculejudgement: packet forwarding firewall iptables
03:29LjorringI have been on that exact guide for some hours now...
03:29ogrenibsa1242b:*  nope. not that i've ever seen after 2 years
03:29bazhang!ccsm | yimmmy
03:29ubotuyimmmy: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
* n3rdboi is rtfming that url.
03:29nickrudtazz, how they do it internally, I'm not sure. I'm sure they allocate the work, but you'd be better off asking those details on #ubuntu-motu
03:29serenityUKyimmmy:  goto http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/  and look at the howto/tutorial section
03:29judgementbascule: this is to configure sharing of internet connection berween two pcs?
03:29chickenFuegojudgement, google something like: "two computers iptable howto"
03:29yimmmythanks bud
03:30serenityUKyimmmy:  they have an installation section actually too
03:30nibsa1242bogre: Interesting, I've never seen a lappy with built-in wireless without a light. does it report as hardware present?
03:30judgementok thanks alot! merry x-mas my fellow beings
03:30tazzwill do nickrud
03:30tazz:-
03:30yimmmyi see thats great
03:30tazz:-)
03:30ogrenibsa1242b:*  how do i check?
03:30nickrudLjorring, did you say you installed xserver-xgl ?
03:30serenityUKjudgement: happy new year
03:31Ljorringyes
03:31Ljorringfrom the package manager
03:31nickrudok, you definitely don't need that with the 8.42.x drivers
03:31judgement& a happy new years! :)
03:31basculejudgement: yeah, I am googling for something useful
03:31chickenFuegou welcome judgement
03:31nibsa1242bogre: I can't remember. I'd look it up for you, but I'm sure someone else can field it faster. I'm trying to solve my own problem right now.
03:31paladin__bascule: do you think i would have to use ndiswrapper?
03:32ogrenibsa1242b:*  i guess i do have a wireless light & its on
03:32nickrudLjorring, that's the important point of those drivers. For me, their performance sucks so I went back to 8.37.6 from ubuntu
03:33basculepaladin__: well if you have a wifi0 or somw wifi dev showing no, else yes
03:33nibsa1242bogre: ok well thats pretty much the extent of my suggestion... other then that make sure your router broadcasts the SSID... generally makes it easier to find for wireless cards
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03:33paladin__i think i found the problem, at boot the bcm43xx module doesn't load properly during startup
03:33LjorringI should use the proprietary drivers from ubuntu?
03:33paladin__and i have a broadcom 4311 chip
03:33sonjahow do i rename my keyboards in ubuntu
03:33sonjaright now they're just USA and USA2
03:33sonjaby default
03:33UbuntMemy vlc just stoped working for no reason, a little help? please!
03:34sonjabut I want to give them specific names like Qwerty, Dvorak, etc.
03:34ogredoes anyone know why nm-applet would stop showing wireless access points?
03:34nickrudLjorring, I do, with Xgl. No suspend with any ati in gutsy, so I went for performance
03:34bazhangUbuntMe: that is not much info to go on--try running it from the terminal and giving error messages (pastebin them)
03:34serenityUKogre: did u try and click on manual config?
03:34UbuntMebazhang:  ok, how do i do that?
03:35ogreserenityUK:*  yeah how do i configure it/
03:35bazhangUbuntMe: do what
03:35nibsa1242bogre: quick thought you hve wireless enabled & networking enabled on right?
03:35UbuntMelaunch it from terminal
03:35bazhangUbuntMe: try typing vlc for starters
03:35LjorringI got it working once with proprietary drivers, and it was pure hell to get there... I will try and use the ubuntu suggested fglrx drivers now
03:35paladin__so now my question is where do i get the bcm4311 module?
03:35LjorringI will do a restart now
03:35UbuntMeok, lol ;)
03:36basculejudgement: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/
03:36UbuntMebazhang:  luke@luke-laptop:~$ vlc
03:36UbuntMeVLC media player 0.8.6c Janus
03:36UbuntMeSegmentation fault (core dumped)
03:36UbuntMeluke@luke-laptop:~$
03:36l21logan99wols: I redid the modprobe and it all worked, but i am still not getting any wireless
03:36judgementbascule: :) thanks
03:36collegehow many updates are there for ubuntu ? i had a message that that there was 178 that my update manager desplayed. is that right?
03:36ogrenibsa1242b:*  its not giving me option to
03:36bazhangUbuntMe: looks like a segfault
03:37wagner_br|sehelp... how can i install the creative live! pro webcam?
03:37Syco54645gnash is causing problems when watching youtube, is there any other plugin that i can use?
03:37IdleOne college possibly if you havent ran any updates in a while
03:37nibsa1242bogre: right click
03:37bazhang!webcam | wagner_br|se
03:37ubotuwagner_br|se: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
03:37basculejudgement: it's involved but you seem keen to learn :)
03:37ogrenibsa1242b:*  networking is there but no wireless
03:37UbuntMebazhang:  whats that? how do i fix it?
03:37collegeIdle0ne: i did a fresh install
03:38serenityUK !flash  | Syco54645
03:38ubotuSyco54645: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
03:38l21logan99wols: are you still here
03:38basculepaladin__: loks like you are in the same boat as ogre
03:38IdleOnecollege: then indeed you have 178 updates. go ahead and apply them
03:38nibsa1242bogre: I really don't know then, sorry.
03:38l21logan99!wireless
03:38ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
03:38bazhangUbuntMe: what are you trying to open with vlc? try using another media app to open it and see what happens
03:38ogrenibsa1242b:*  well thanks for trying :)
03:38LjorringI think that Im using the 'normal' proprietary drivers now
03:38paladin__ogre: i just found this: http://www.seungpyo.com/stacksandpiles/2006/07/02/broadcom-wireless-in-ubuntu-dapper-606/
03:38paladin__trying it now
03:38sonjahow do i set ubuntu aspect resolution and change it to my monitor's native one?
03:38nibsa1242bogre: np
03:38Ljorringcan u use a pastebin of some of my logs/configs?
03:39basculeUbuntMe: vlc is nasty in linux anyway
03:39sonjai want to change it to 1280 x 1024
03:39ogrepaladin_:*  ill check it out now
03:39serenityUKsonja   do you have nvidia?
03:39UbuntMebazhang:  cuz vlc is better than kaffeine, move player, and all that
03:39UbuntMebascule:  whats the best then?
03:39sonjai have a sapphire video card
03:39collegeIdle0ne: also it told me that some where not from a  secure sorce
03:39sonjaserenityUK
03:39sonjaradeon
03:39basculeUbuntMe: xine imo, the standard xine, not xine anything or *xine, just xine-ui
03:40IdleOnecollege: did you change/add anytyhing to your sources.list?
03:40nickrudLjorring, first , uninstall xserver-xgl , and log out and back in. Lets check your driver first.
03:40ogrewell im on a fresh install so ill just reformat
03:40collegeIdle0ne: yes its all installed
03:40Ljorringok
03:40nickrudLjorring, and use my nick in your replies, it shows up red and I won't miss them (almost missed your last)
03:40collegeIdle0ne: no its i fresh install
03:40l21logan99wols is gone i assume
03:40collegeIdle0ne: no editing
03:40mongo1can someone help me on installing a Broadcom 4311 driver via ndiswrapper? Im new to linux and dont really know what to do. thanks
03:41Syco54645serenityUK, it says to use nspluginwrapper on amd64, but that is not in the repos
03:41Ljorringnickrud: mkay :)
03:41collegeIdle0ne: i just did an update
03:41IdleOnecollege: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin please
03:41IdleOne!paste | college
03:41ubotucollege: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
03:41serenityUKsonja   sorry i don't have ati....    i believe there is a control panel try typing   sudo aticonfig  ??
03:41bascule!ndiswrapper | mongo1
03:41ubotumongo1: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
03:41nickrudLjorring, ah, better :)
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03:42collegeits not that big
03:42Ljorringnickrud: a relog is enough after xgl-removal?
03:42zach382Is the new Nvidia Linux driver 169.07 going to be available to upgrade to through thre restricted manager?
03:42mongo1someone sent me there earlier and it screwed meh lappy up and i just now fixed it
03:42nickrudLjorring, yes
03:42nibsa1242bI need help. I think my permissions for BLANK burnable media are not allowing me to burn on to blank media. I can, however, overwrite/append to non-blank media. Anyone help?
03:42IdleOnecollege: please use pastebin. dont paste in here
03:43UbuntMebascule:  will xine play dvds good? because thats all i want, i good dvd player program
03:43collegeIdle0ne: i cant cppy it
03:43Ljorringnickrud: ok, im on
03:43IdleOnecollege: why not?
03:43nickrudLjorring, ok, fglrxinfo, last line should tell you the driver number
03:43basculeUbuntMe: beautifully, load the dvd, cance; the auto run thingy, open xine, hit the dvd button
03:43collegeIdle0ne: i dont know it wont let me
03:43mackarillhow do i add more desktops lol
03:44maverickAlexwhat do i edit to add different sessions to the login choices?
03:44friedtofuhey hey hey - anyone know how to change the X's DPI to 96?... its 50 atm and i dont know how to change it
03:44IdleOnecollege: then I dont know how I can help
03:44nickrudmackarill, right click the window switcher bottom right, preferences
03:44serenityUKSyco54645: there is a script to install it easity... i am 64bit too...
03:44collegeIdle0ne: what is more secure debian or ubuntu
03:44Ljorringnickrud: ok, if I suddenly disappear, then its because I auto-relog after using that command
03:44Syco54645serenityUK, i must have missed that then...
03:44bazhangmaverickAlex: download different wm or de's
03:44serenityUKSyco54645: uninstall gnash first  then follow this tutorial  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924
03:44nickrudLjorring, :)
03:44mackarillahh cool
03:44mackarillthanks
03:44maverickAlexbazhang: wm?
03:45Ljorringnickrud: ok, now It worked :)
03:45maverickAlexwindow manager?
03:45Ljorringnickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49108/
03:45Ljorringoops
03:45basculecollege: security is a process not a state, both need knowledge, both are secure out the box in relative terms and both supply regular updates
03:45Ljorringnickrud: OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
03:45Jay-Oh-Ensubzero2000:
03:45Jay-Oh-Enoops
03:45brontosGood Evening all!  Anyone here know about kino?
03:45bazhangmaverickAlex: xubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, etc
03:45serenityUKSyco54645: it does the work for u just follow instructions on that threead
03:45Vaalthhey, do you guys know if openoffice files are compatible with microsoft word 2007?
03:45Jay-Oh-En#booze
03:45Vaalthwith text formatting
03:45maverickAlexya but that not what i need.  i want one so i can pick gnome with out using xgl
03:45Syco54645serenityUK, thanks a ton.  gnash really was bad
03:45thorVaalth  for the most part yes
03:46collegeIdle0ne: can i hack my pc so i can copy it
03:46collegeIdle0ne: do you know how i could do it/
03:46college?
03:46serenityUKSyco54645: gnash is not meant for youtube...  just for free software monks lol...   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476924  will install adobe 32bit on 64bit
03:46Vaalththor, what isnt compatible? i just need to be able to write a paper with a header, footer, etc and text formatting and be able to open it in word 2007
03:46brontosI need to know which packages are required to export mpeg in kino
03:46Vaalthis that possible?
03:46basculeVaalth: save it as html :)
03:47Syco54645serenityUK, i thought that i just needed to run this script
* teh_mudkipz says hi
03:47thorVaalth your best bet will be to save it as an older format...maybe word 2000 or word xp, that can also be read by word2007
03:47nickrudLjorring, now, sudo aptitude reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx ubuntu-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) libgl1-mesa  . You aren't using the kernel module, so lets make sure you have the ubuntu stuff.
03:47bazhangcan ms office open html?
03:47serenityUKSyco54645: yes i posted the same linnk twice lol incase u missed it
03:47Vaalthah cool. is word 2003 supported?
03:47collegeIdle0ne: also can people reprogram a adsl box... i think soeme onw did
03:47wagner_br|sewebcam!
03:47Syco54645serenityUK, ah ok.  thanks again
03:47thorVaalth but I have often encountered problems with headers footers and tables
03:47serenityUKSyco np
03:47basculebazhang: well a browser will, so it's readable :)
03:47bazhangcollege: offtopic
03:48bazhangbascule: good point ;}
03:48serenityUKSyco54645: forums are great.. look around
03:48Ljorringnickrud: done. status: no crash/error
03:48Ricohi
03:48Vaalthwell thank you for your help :)
03:48thorVaalth  word2003 xml is supported, but I don't think doc is
03:48Syco54645serenityUK, i did, i find them to be hard to search because they are too cluttered.  i had searched for about 20 minutes before i came into here.
03:49nickrudLjorring, ok, now sudo modprobe fglrx . After that, log out and back in, and do the fglrxinfo again
03:49LennalfI'm setting up ubuntu for the first time on a home theatre PC... I am not sure how to get ubuntu to recognize my USB RF wireless keyboard...
03:49Lennalfcan anybody help?
03:49nickrudLjorring, for fun, hit ctl-alt-backspace while you're logged out
03:49Syco54645serenityUK, been looking for why the show desktop in the compiz doesnt work either.  i tried to set it to a hot corner to no avail... it will show my application windows, just not the desktop
03:49basculebazhang: I really am of the opinion that sending html docs to people is a way ahead for all compatibility issues
03:49Ljorringnickrud: just to understand a tiny bit... the 'modprobe fglrx' says 'use this driver', mkay?
03:49Ljorringnickrud:  mkay ^
03:49bazhangbascule: agreed
03:50nickrudLjorring, not quite. It means use this kernel module, which the driver will make use of
03:50bazhangLennalf: does it require certain drivers--try plugging it in
03:50Ljorringnickrud: ah, ok
03:50Lennalfbazhang: it comes with drivers on a CD, but it was plug-and-play on Windows XP
03:51bazhangLennalf: plug in the base station and see if it works
03:51nickrudok, do the fglrxinfo and hope for ati on the driver
03:51Syco54645serenityUK, well the flash player is fixed.  thanks again
03:51Lennalfsorry, base station?
03:51Ljorringnickrud: haha, what was that double ctrl+alt+backspace... 'the greeter thing crashed....' it popped up ^^
03:51Ljorringnickrud: done*
03:51nickrudLjorring, that's KIll X Now
03:52Lennalfbazhang: sorry, base station?
03:52sonjahow do i rename the keyboards in ubuntu? halp
03:52Ljorringnickrud: ahh...
03:52serenityUKSyco54645: nice one....  trying compiz here..  expo works if i set to top left corner bu not show deesktop hmmmm
03:52nickrudLjorring, what about the last line of fglrx
03:52Ljorringnickrud: OpenGL version string: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.0.1)
03:52bazhangLennalf: how does the wireless connect? to the cpu? likely to a dongle that you plug into a usb port, yes?
03:52nickrudNot good.
03:52Ljorringnickrud: damn..
03:53Lennalfbazhang: yes it is a USB dongle.  It is listed in my hardware information screen
03:53Syco54645serenityUK, that is the same boat i am in... finding all of these annoyances.  still better than windows though, linux has been for me for 7 years now.  windows free! WOOOOOOOO!  At any rate, I cannot figure out why the show desktop does not work.
03:53chickenFuegosonja, on the top right, click "System->Preferences->Keyboard->Layouts"
03:53Syco54645serenityUK, the button on the panel works but not the hot corners nor the key combo
03:53nickrudLjorring, ok, put on the pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf  , /var/log/Xorg.0.log , the output of  lspci | grep -i vga
03:53Ljorringnickrud: on it
03:54Lennalfbazhang: It sees a Wireless Keyboard/Mouse in my USB UHCI Controller #2
03:54sonjachickenFuego:  ok i'm there, how do i rename them now?
03:54bazhangLennalf: try syncing it with the keyboard--there should be buttons on both base station and keyboard that may need to be pressed simultaneously
03:54serenityUKSyco54645: hmmm   the button on the panel gives me a nice animation too.. they go to all 4 corners
03:54nickrudLjorring, when you did that aptitude install run, did it talk about unpacking and setting up the packages?
03:54sonjafor example if i pick U.S. English Dvorak and I want to just rename it to Dvorak
03:54sonjaand U.S. English rename it to Qwerty
03:54Lennalfbazhang: hmm okay, I'll look...
03:54Syco54645serenityUK, so that means that it works, just not correctly.  i mean that is what it should do
03:55bazhangLennalf: so it works now? if it is recognized then just try using it--othewise try the sync
03:55sonjaso when i go and switch between keyboards it shows the name, rather than swapping between USA and USA2
03:55DARKGuyDoes anybody knows a good player that can support shoutcast and uses WinAmp skins?
03:55Lennalfbazhang: I'll try to sync... the button isn't clear.... one says ID...
03:55chickenFuegosonja, click on the +Add button and you can select the keyboards you want from a huge list.
03:55Ljorringnickrud: I dont remember it so.. but not sure
03:55maverickAlexDARKGuy: xmms
03:55serenityUKSyco54645: ah....
03:55bazhangDARKGuy: winamp? :}
03:55serenityUKSyco54645: crtl-alt-D !
03:55sonjachickenFuego:  yes i added the ones i want. i want to rename them now.
03:55DARKGuymaverickAlex: but, does it have shoutcast integrated like BMPx?
03:56DARKGuybazhang: lol yes, but emulating it through WINE is just silly :p
03:56nickrudLjorring, run it again , you can do ctl-r fglrx to search back in the terminal for the command
03:56maverickAlexDARKGuy: it can stream shoutcast  but i don't know if its like BMPx
03:56Lennalfbazhang: no luck yet.  Thanks for your help btw :)
03:56Syco54645serenityUK, well it doesnt work if i try to set it to something.  and the hot corner does not work for that matter.  that is what i really want.
03:56Ljorringok
03:56DARKGuymaverickAlex: well I guess I'll give it a try, thanks for the suggestion :p
03:56serenityUKSyco54645: if you goto general settings instead of the showdesktop plugin.....  then actions... there is  "Hide all windows and focus desktop" set to crtl-alt-D
03:57bazhangDARKGuy: not sure about the skins, but amarok/rhythmbox should support shoutcast
03:57Ljorringxorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49110/
03:57bazhangLennalf: what keyboard by the way
03:57Ljorringnickrud: xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49110/
03:57nadiowhat family should Intel Duo 32bit be placed in?
03:57Ljorringnickrud: xorg.log.0 : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49111/
03:57maverickAlexDARKGuy: check out streamtuner
03:57Syco54645serenityUK, what tool are you using.  i am using the gldesktop thing because the other is way too bloated for my tastes
03:57Ljorringnickrud: lspci | grep -i vga : 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600]
03:57basculenadio: a good and loving one
03:57Lennalfbazhang: It is the SpecResearch 01027; although the box actually says X-Gene :-P
03:57DARKGuybazhang: I've tried rhythmbox and it doesn't, dunno about Amarok yet - maverickAlex: Okay I will
03:58serenityUKSyco54645: no i'm using the advanced one
03:58serenityUKSyco54645: still not triggering with corner but works on keyboard
03:58nickrudLjorring, need to change the xorg.conf.  do this:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg  , when it's done , sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and look for ati. Replace with fgrlx
03:58nadiobascule: for kernel configuration, I doubt there is one.
03:58Syco54645serenityUK, well that one krunks my settings.  i prefer the gldesktop.  at any rate, i think it may be a bug.
03:59basculenadio: well yoy can built x86_64 if you want
03:59Syco54645serenityUK, the ctrl alt d isnt that bad to have to hit, i just miss my hot corners (has a mac at work)
03:59Ljorringnickrud: roger
* bascule has a finger failure
03:59paxtonhello?
03:59serenityUKSyco54645: you can change it to something easier like  win+D
03:59basculehi
03:59bazhanghttp://www.altgamer.org/?p=1496&page=4 Lennalf this one?
04:00maverickAlexSyco545654: you can set up the hot corners (If i am thinking of the same think as you)  with compiz
04:00Ljorringnickrud: done
04:00paxtoncan someone help me out with a unichrome pro resolution issue? I have tried EVERYTHING :9
04:00Syco54645serenityUK, i will do that tomorrow, i need to get up for work in a few hours.  maybe i will get sick
04:00Syco54645serenityUK, thanks again for the help
04:00paxtonI just cant get higher than 800X600 and I have tried everything
04:00Lennalfbazhang: yes :)
04:00serenityUKSyco54645: cya.. happy youtubing lol
04:00basculepaxton: if you have tried *EVERYTHING*, then no, there is nothing left
04:01paxton*every thing I know*
04:01paxtoncan you at lest help me out? I am totaly lost :(
04:01nickrudLjorring, now, do   find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)  -iname '*fglrx*'  , delete any you find. We're still using the wrong kernel module.
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04:01mrdinklesUsing ubuntu 7.10. Created a separate partition and installed another OS onto it, How do i put that partition on the grub bootloader?
04:01bazhangLennalf: the writer of that article seems to suggest that it is no prob with ubuntu
04:02Ljorringnickrud: I found two files. I am to manually remove them?
04:02basculepaxton: tried xorg.conf changes, dpkg-reconfigureand all that stuff?
04:02nickrudLjorring, yes. Once we're sure we've gotten rid of any possible bad one, we'll reinstall the right one
04:02bazhangmrdinkles: have you seen the GRUB factoid?
04:02Ljorringnickrud: sounds good to me :)
04:02Ljorringnickrud: on it
04:02paxtonYes, I have changed xorg.conf to driver via
04:03paxtonand it boots xwindow, but no higher resolutions
04:03mrdinklesbazhang: nope, what is it?
04:03paxtonit only goes to 800 x 600 and lower
04:03Ljorringnickrud: done
04:03bazhang!grub | mrdinkles
04:03ubotumrdinkles: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
04:03basculepaxton: have you added higher resolutions on the relevent sections of xorg?
04:03Lennalfbazhang: yeah... hmm :(  I guess I'll just keep tinkering.  Thanks for the help though.
04:03Ljorringnickrud: I am to do the sudoapt on the fglrx now?
04:03paxtoni dont think so
04:03nickrudLjorring, sudo aptitude reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx  linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) libgl1-mesa
04:03paxtonHow could I do that?
04:03basculepaxton: that's what to do then
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04:04paxtonHow?
04:04nickrudLjorring, watch for the unpacking and setting up
04:04mrdinklesis ubotu a bot?
04:04bazhanglennalf was it plugged in when you started up? just a thought
04:04robdigmrdinkles: yes
04:04mrdinklesthanks ^^
04:04Ljorringnickrud: ok, done now. it was working for a bit
04:04Ljorringnickrud: unpacking, installing etc...
04:04nickrudLjorring, now, reboot
04:04Ljorringnickrud: ok, brb
04:04basculewell tyoe them in in the section labled "Screen"
04:04paxtonI think i added more resolution options, but they dont show up in prefrences > resolution
04:04bazhangmrdinkles: if you need a better walkthrough let me know
04:05UbuntMebascule:  its npt very clear
04:05basculeUbuntMe: what isn't?
04:05mrdinklesbazhang: thanks, im readin through it
04:05paxtonIm completely lost and I almost want to go back to windows. I just cant figure this out
04:05Jack_Sparrowpaxton: If you paste your xorg into the pastebin (Not into this channel) and give the link it will help them help you
04:05basculepaxton: paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf to some pastebin
04:06paxtonwhats a pastebin?
04:06bascule!pastebin | paxton
04:06ubotupaxton: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
04:06bazhanghttp://apcmag.com/5459/dualboot_ubuntu_and_windows_xp mrdinkles
04:06UbuntMebascule:  xine
04:06basculeUbuntMe: as in picture quality or usability?
04:07UbuntMebascule:  kinda blury and not very smooth
04:07basculeUbuntMe: works for me
04:07sqlnoobHi there, I just installed ubuntu and i'm trying to set up my wireless connection and it doesn't give me a connection, hehe..
04:07Ljorringnickrud: done.. I think something is wrong. Im running 320x200 resolution now I think :)
04:07UbuntMebascule:   ya, works
04:07paxtonok
04:07paxtonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49112/
04:07Vad3How can I shut down apache thats on localhost?
04:08nickrudLjorring, lol, that would be bad. paste up the log file, then sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg , log out and back in
04:08maverickAlexVad3: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
04:08sqlnoobim in network settings, i filled out the ESSID, they password type for the wireless connection and a static IP (dynamic doesnt work either)
04:08sqlnoobthe* password type
04:08Vad3Thanks maverick
04:09Ljorringnickrud: xorg.0.log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49113/
04:09Ljorringnickrud: brb
04:10CarlFKpaxton: why? (your question sounds odd)
04:10onatswhich vmware version should i download, running ubuntu 7.10, 64 bit version
04:10Jack_Sparrowpaxton: what kind of a monitor are you running
04:10basculepaxton: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , paste thet to a shell, take your time
04:10paxtonan lcd
04:10Jack_Sparrowpaxton: Make and model
04:10Ljorringnickrud: done
04:10jwpaine_looking for a lite ubuntu installation disk.... is there such thing as a ubuntu network install disk, similar to debian's netinstall disk which is 164MB ?
04:10paxtongateway mx3231
04:10Jack_Sparrowpaxton: and that card needs to drop back to 16 bit depth
04:10CarlFKpaxton: er, sorry, wrong person...
04:10Ljorringnickrud: I am still running ms-dos resolution (8
04:11paxtonwhat?
04:11paxtoni run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg in konsle
04:11sqlnoobnobody then? huh, ok thanks
04:11paxtonthen what
04:11nickrudLjorring, I hate those ati installers.
04:11bazhangsqlnoob: for apache?
04:11Ljorringnickrud: I think.. I feel alike hehe
04:11serenityUKjwpaine_: server install is the smallest.. about 500mb, just command line no X
04:11Jack_Sparrowpaxton: Laptop?
04:11tsukasa_hey guys, anyone know of something that i can install to host aim to a webserver
04:12paxtonyes laptop
04:12serenityUKjwpaine_: i use that on my old laptop
04:12Xamuzkwhat the hell is console-kit-daemon?
04:12sqlnoobbazhang: no, to make my wireless work in a brand new installation
04:12paxtonwoa I just ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and told it via driver
04:12paxtonit made the screen go screwy and then it came back
04:13bazhangsqlnoob: sorry; what wireless card
04:13Extravertanyone here use gpg?
04:13pope22i'm having sound problems (as i could tell many have after perusing the forums). My headphone jack works, but the speakers do not, even when jack is removed.  However, i am at a loss after trying the suggested fixes. I ran alsamixer, "speakers" were indeed muted, but after toggling them on (and rebooting for good measure) nothing. I also ran aplay -l, and from what i read my results were supposedly what they should, as far as i had r
04:13nickrudLjorring, a sec
04:13paxtonok it spit this out:
04:13paxton overwriting possibly-customised configuration
04:13paxton   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20071220231245
04:13sqlnoobbazhang: bult-in from dell...
04:13Jack_Sparrowpaxton: tell it vesa mode 1024 max res and if asked 16 bit depth
04:13XamuzkI have many of those processes running, but ps only reports one, but htop reports dozens of them
04:13jwpaine_serenityUK: no... not installation size - installation /disk/ size. I don't want to use a fat ubuntu live desktop installation gui.... plus it has seemed buggy in the past....are there any ubuntu netinstall disks or non-x installation disks?
04:13Ljorringnickrud: ok, i will try some console stuff meanwhile
04:13Ahmuckhow do i get apt to use a local repository?
04:13sqlnoobbazhang: it's dual boot, from windows it works fine, from ubuntu it doesnt
04:14Jack_Sparrowpaxton: Do you have a link to your laptop secs.. as in refresh rate for v & h
04:14bazhangsqlnoob: open a terminal and type lspci--that should give the card make and model --just tell me dont paste here
04:14serenityUKjwpaine_: the alternate install disk is without lice cd but still fullsize .iso im afraid
04:14paxtonNo I do not, I know the screen is 1024 X 768 at 60 hertz
04:14serenityUKjwpaine_: *liveCD...
04:15serenityUKjwpaine_: alternate is text mode installer for lower memory etc
04:15CarlFKis "packages have been kept back: linux-headers-generic"  causing  "libGLcore.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv000040gl " ? http://dpaste.com/28716/
04:15jwpaine_serenityUK: ok.. so the alt install disk: thanks
04:15sqlnoobbazhang: broadcom mini-PCI
04:15bazhangsqlnoob: broadcom 4311?
04:15serenityUKjwpaine_: yes it is recommended for less than 256.. also gives more control over install
04:15basculeCarlFK: no a broken nvidia driver is causing that
04:16Jack_Sparrowpaxton: tell it vesa mode 1024 max res and if asked 16 bit depth
04:16paxtonwait
04:16sqlnoobbazhang: 4401
04:16paxtonlook at the new xorg.conf
04:16paxtonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49114/
04:16mutablehi all. what controls output format size of ps? i have trimmed output of "ps -e" ---> "5698 ?        00:00:00 evolution-excha"
04:16pope22how can i adjust the suround sound settings in Gutsy? I didn't see option for this in Preferences>Sound
04:17sqlnoobbazhang: 4401-B0 to be exact
04:17basculemutable: format size?
04:17tsukasa_hey guys, anyone know of something that i can install to host aim to a webserver
04:17mutablebascule: ok, column size (?)
04:17basculemutable: you want to see more chars per column? If so I dunnin if you can
04:18paxtonis that xorg.conf safe to reboot the xwindow session with?
04:18nickrudLjorring, put up your xorg.conf again, and the output of aptitude search fglrx and aptitude search xserver-xorg-video-ati
04:18paxtonor should I hurry up and restore the origional
04:18basculemutable: except with a bigger console :)
04:18CarlFKbascule: how can I go back to previous version from before I apt-get upgrad ed ?
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04:18Ljorringnickrud: on it
04:18mrdinklesbazhang: yep... i did it wrong, thats okay though, that one tutorial was really effective- even had screenshots ^^ thanks
04:19basculeCarlFK: I wish I knew, it is hard to roll back I think there is a version < switch to dpkg, hang on
04:19mutablebascule: i have big console, the output of "ps -e" is trimmed, CMD column
04:19bazhangmrdinkles: great news!
04:19Ljorringnickrud: search fglrx :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49115/
04:19Jack_Sparrowpaxton: I dont see any resolutions in that config...          So one last time... tell it vesa mode           1024 max res                       and if asked 16 bit depth
04:19mutablebascule: i see "evolution-data-" instead of "evolution-data-server"
04:19bazhangsqlnoob: no, that is the ethernet card--you have the 4311; here is a link http://www.ubuntu1501.com/
04:19Jack_Sparrowgoodnight all
04:20Ljorringnickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49116/ <--- xorg.cond
04:20musikgoatis there a better video playing combo than totem-xine ?  i can see a noticable difference between a dvd played in that and played from windows?   is there a better player to work with deCSS?
04:20Ljorringnickrud: conf*
04:20bazhangsqlnoob: and another link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=459684
04:20Extravertanyone use GPG?
04:20bazhangbye Jack_Sparrow
04:20bazhangExtravert: that is your question? you are allowed only one you know
04:20sqlnoobbazhang: the 4311? how do u know that? i don't see that in the lspci, im so noob at this
04:20musikgoatnn Jack_Sparrow i'm about to watch pirates 3, is it worth it ^_^
04:20DelvienOk.. Gutsy laptop , running an e100 intel ethernet card, the link goes up and down and most times I do not have internet/networking
04:20semaja2anyone have any ideas on why applications like tuxpaint and gcompris wont load *they start to load in the terminal but stop* but other applications like blackjack work fine
04:20Extravertbazhang: lol
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04:21sqlnoobbazhang: thanks tho! I'm going to go and read on what you sent me
04:21Jack_Sparrowmusikgoat: Very much so...
04:21Extravertbazhang: you know how to use GPG?
04:21musikgoathehe
04:21bazhangsqlnoob: no worries :}
04:21Ljorringnickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49117/ <--- search xserver-xorg-video-ati
04:21bazhangExtravert: that is your question? yes I do
04:21semaja2anyone?
04:21hockeyfan5000semaja2:  I am not sure, my son uses tuxpaint and he is 3 and never has any problems
04:21sqlnoobbazhang: mine is a 1720 Inspiron, does it work the same way? that's why i said it's a 4401
04:21Extravertbazhang: gpg doesnt work in the console so how else could I use it?
04:22semaja2it was working fine, but then today it wont work :S
04:22musikgoatanyone else notice the quality difference in playing a dvd in ubuntu vs windows?
04:22nickrudLjorring, I found out that your 9600 has a bug that sometimes shows up when using the ati driver.
04:22kahrytanmusikgoat➲  which one is better?
04:22hockeyfan5000musikgoat I havent seen any
04:22Extravertbazhang: I tried decrypting my file and the console keeps jamming up
04:22nickrudLjorring, so, run restricted-manager , and tell it to install the restricted ati driver
04:22basculeCarlFK: seems to be no downgrade facility, well no easy way, perhaps you need to update everything?
04:22musikgoatmy quality of dvd's in totem-xine is pretty fuzzy
04:22Ljorringnickrud: ok, I will disable, then re-enable it
04:23JensenDiedso, kernel upgrade issue, one worked fine, one did not.
04:23Ljorringnickrud: thats the procedure?
04:23hockeyfan5000musikgoat, you sure your using the right video driver?
04:23Extravertbazhang: it is fixed in the newer versions but im just wondering if theres a way around it
04:23kahrytanmusikgoat➲  did you try vlc?
04:23bazhanghttp://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/gnome/gpgp Extravert; also http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Chip/3708/gpgp/gpgp.html
04:23nickrudLjorring, run restricted-manager in a terminal, it should have a checkbox for using the restricted driver
04:23musikgoatlet me install that, i didn't give it a try, that should work
04:23CarlFKbascule: um... isn't that was "sudo apt-get upgrade" does?
04:23musikgoatthanks kahrytan
04:23kahrytanmusikgoat➲  I dont have an dvds myself :(
04:23Ljorringnickrud: oh, its not checked.. I will check the proprietary driver now
04:24basculeCarlFK: yeah, well it seems to be a bug, is this when you run a game?
04:24bazhangsqlnoob: 4401 is the ethernet driver
04:24Ljorringnickrud: 'needs a computer restart' <-- brb
04:24earlmredhmm, off my sw raid5 w/ 4 7200.10 500GB drives, i'm getting 136MB/s reads, 56MB/s writes ...
04:24earlmreddoes that seem right?
04:24kahrytanmusikgoat➲  but keep in mine. Linux uses libdvdcss2 .. ie a crack to css.
04:24sqlnoobbazhang: oh yeah my bad, sorry
04:24musikgoatthanks
04:25CarlFKbascule: it's when X starts
04:25basculeCarlFK: nasty
04:25Extravertbazhang: so I have to install the new version?
04:25bazhangExtravert: are you on Gutsy?
04:25Extravertbazhang: ya
* musikgoat <3 vlc!! thanks kahrytan
04:26bazhangExtravert: that is the front end, ie the gui
04:26Extravertbazhang: oh thanks =)
04:26kahrytanmusikgoat➲  I love vlc too. plays most codecs thrown at it. no need to install gstreamer codecs.
04:26bazhangExtravert: no worries ;}
04:27nickrudvlc runs really nice for dvd's as well. Can't believe I only started using it a few months ago
04:27DelvienOk.. Gutsy laptop , running an e100 intel ethernet card, the link goes up and down and most times I do not have internet/networking, I cant seem to get internet nor networking to work correctly on this laptop, anyone have an idea
04:27alainhi guys.. got this problem.. i already installed the restricted driver but still cant to display .. it works b4 but after i installed the nvidia driver from nvidia website cant make it work again
04:27basculeCarlFK: I read the paste,only thing for now is to go back to nv driver in xorg.conf
04:27Ljorringnickrud: now I got my 1280z1024 up running again
04:27hockeyfan5000Delvien:  Did you try to manually set a static IP address?
04:27bazhangDelvien: could it be a router issue?
04:27nickrudLjorring, what does fglrxinfo say?
04:27Ljorringnickrud: I have sensed a difference now. the graphics seem to run smoother
04:28jwpaine_I'm surprised with how popular Ubuntu is, that they don't have a netinstall :(
04:28Delvienhocketfan5000 actually trying that now, :P
04:28Ljorringnickrud: OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
04:28nickrudLjorring, sucess!
04:28Ljorringnickrud: great stuff xD
04:28Delvienbazhang router is fine, other 2-3 computers are accessing the internet and pinging eachother
04:28JensenDiedkernel seems to not be mounting /proc and failing on others after that
04:28chickenFuegoDelvien, you might try "sudo echo 'blacklist intel_rng' > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklistand reboot.
04:28nickrudLjorring, now, sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager emerald . Log out and back in
04:29bazhangDelvien: you using the network manager? or via command line
04:29Delvienbazhang net manager
04:29chickenFuegoDelvien, you might try "sudo echo 'blacklist intel_rng' >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklistand" reboot.
04:29Delvienchickenfuego is that a known issue with that card or something?
04:29Ljorringnickrud: whats with the emerald?
04:29chickenFuegoDelvien, with the two >> !!!
04:29chrisn_hey
04:29CarlFKbascule: nv doesn't error, but now I don't get any output on the svideo port
04:29nickrudLjorring, it's a pretty window decorator, it'll be in the preferences menu
04:29Ljorringnickrud: I have never had that package installed I can see
04:29Ljorringnickrud: nice :)
04:29bazhangDelvien: is this the computer you are on now? if so, how are you connected; if not, can you access that computer now
04:29Ljorringnickrud: relogging
04:30Delvienbazhang no its another laptop i have connected to ethernet
04:30chickenFuegoDelvien, some ethernet wireless card on laptop have a problem with this (intel), It was making mycard hanging on boot and sometimes unstable.
04:30Delvienbazhang yes i can access it
04:30basculeCarlFK: yeah, it's a workaround not a fix, a fix is way beyond me, but you could try a manual nvidia install with their own package
04:30bazhangDelvien: open network, wep, wpa, wpa2 what
04:30Ljorringnickrud: now the graphics seem slow again... :S
04:30basculeCarlFK: after removing the ubunto one fo course
04:31Delvienbazhang its not wireless, its ethernet
04:31bazhangLjorring: turn off compiz :}
04:31nickrudLjorring, do alt-f2 compiz --replace && emerald --replace
04:31nickrudbazhang, ;p
04:31Ljorringnickrud: but the fglrx says OpenGL version string: 2.0.6473 (8.37.6)
04:31bazhangDelvien: ethernet wont work? I thought this was a wireless question...
04:31Delvienbazhang nope, ethernet
04:31chickenFuegoDelvien, if you have the same message on boot with your intel network card... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/102982
04:32Ljorringnickrud: done
04:32bazhangDelvien: do you start up the computer with the ethernet cable plugged in, or plug it in after start up
04:32Extravertbazhang: the app is so unstable. Just crashed and it doesnt import my key files
04:32nickrudLjorring, you should have different window borders
04:32Ljorringnickrud: the settings work xD though I feel some lag
04:32Ljorringnickrud: yep, I got some nasty red borders ^^
04:33Delvienbazhang with it already plugged in
04:33Ljorringnickrud: there is something, that my adapter doesnt like. I will have to investigate that
04:33Ljorringnickrud: but else it seems as if the compiz is working
04:33bazhangExtravert: you want to import key files? from a trusted source? how about wget
04:33nickrudLjorring, it's even worse with the new ati drivers.  Go to the emerald preference, pick a different one.  then alt-f2 emerald --replace to change it
04:33Extravertbazhang: its on my computer
04:34bazhangExtravert: you want to import keys?
04:34Ahmuckif i want to use an aptoncd backup for my packages, can i just insert a cdrom line in my sources.list?
04:34Extravertbazhang: yes
04:34bazhangExtravert: from a trusted source?
04:34Extravertbazhang: /.gnupg/secring.gpg
04:35bazhangExtravert: import means from an outside source, right?
04:35basculeAhmuck: there is a way to do it specifically, can't remeber off hand bit synaptics/adept allow you to do this throught the sources options
04:35Ljorringnickrud: some of the other emerald borders doesnt like it
04:35Ljorringnickrud: can I for debugging turn of emerald?
04:36Extravertbazhang: "Bad fd number"
04:36DelvienchickenFuego that is for an ethernet card right?
04:36nickrudLjorring, it's probable that there's some file left over from the ati installer, I don't know where though
04:37bazhanghttp://www.stillhq.com/extracted/gnupg-api/doc/faq.html Extravert take a read of that
04:37chickenFuegono the FWH bug was for wireless intel card, but it is related to the random numbers generator or so.. might be also on yours? Check the if you get the FWH error message on bootmaybe?
04:37Ljorringnickrud: the emerrald effect is cool  :)
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04:37Extravertbazhang: dead link =(
04:37nickrudLjorring, yes, you can alter the themes yourself too
04:37Ljorringnickrud: I have gotten compiz to work now, and I am truly thankful for your time, nickrud
04:38Ljorringnickrud: but there is something crreating huge lag in the interface
04:38Ljorringnickrud: I will investigate that matter tomorrow...
04:38Extravertbazhang: I should install 1.4.8 then
04:38nickrudLjorring, like I said, something left over most likely
04:38verb3kThe new flash plguin is really slow, can anyboy tell me how to get the older version?
04:38bazhanghttp://www.gnupg.org/documentation/faqs.html Extravert
04:38Ljorringnickrud: do you know how to find it?
04:39stuporglu1Anyone know what font Gvim uses by default?
04:39basculesome mono space
04:39Old_GreggHello.  I'm getting no sound on my interweb browser.
04:39stuporglu1bascule: yeah, I've got 100+ fonts on my system though and I can't find which one it is :-/
04:40nickrudLjorring, not off the top of my head
04:40chickenFuegoOld_Gregg, within a flash video in your browser, you might have to right-click on it and select "allow access to ..."
04:40Ljorringnickrud: mkay
04:40nickrudLjorring, if nothing else, you've learned the danger of installing stuff that's not in a deb package :)
04:41interceptor#ubuntu-ru
04:41verb3kplease anybody.....The new flash plugin is really slow, can anyboy tell me how to get the older version?
04:41Old_Greggchickenfuego: no luck
04:41DelvienchickenFuego heres the error "FWH not detected"
04:42sonjahow do i install a bunch of TTF fonts i have on another hard drive to my ubuntu?
04:42sonjacan i drag and drop them somewhere?
04:42Ljorringnickrud: yes, ofc :) and I have gotten smarter on the driver area
04:42Notoshai !!! quick question what kernel should i install for a Intel Q6600 *(Quad Core)
04:42chickenFuegoDelvien, do you have a lag at boot when it is displaying that?
04:42Oddie_grove#manado
04:42Dr_willissonja,  in the fonts:// or fonts:/ dir is one way.
04:42sonjaokay
04:42Ljorringnickrud: what I really would miss in ubuntu, is an interface from where you could manage all the driver issues
04:42sonjai'll hunt for that dir
04:43Ashfire908Notos, standard?
04:43DelvienchickenFuego not noticable, but lanchpad is telling me to blacklist intel_nrg so..
04:43Dr_willissonja,  enter it in the file manager.
04:43Oddie_grove#kristen
04:43chickenFuegolauchpad??
04:43anton___Hey, I'm wondering if I could partition my drive post-installation, and then install windows on that new partition...?
04:43Ljorringnickrud: cause you have to know the location of all the files & commands related to a driver issue
04:43Old_GreggI have sound on World of Warcraft and up until tonight had sound on the internet
04:43NotosAshfire908, no im using Debootstarp as in the FakeRaid Howto
04:43Ljorringnickrud: but thx for ur help :) I will surf around a bit
04:44nickrudLjorring, for nearly every driver, it's all automated. Just the ones from manufacturers that won't release specs are problematic
04:44ifireballsonja: System->Preferences->Fonts->Details->Go to Fonts Folder
04:44sonjahow do i open this file manager?
04:44sonjaDr_willis?
04:44Ashfire908notos: ? idk then
04:44Ljorringnickrud: perhaps its also just me
04:44Ljorringnickrud: im new to ubuntu
04:44signal9After an update this morning, including a new kernel and headers, I can no longer load the nvidia graphics drivier
04:44ultrazsonja where are you from ?
04:45sonjaToronto
04:45nickrudLjorring, so it's impractical to build handlers for unknown crap. No, it was that ati driver install
04:45NotosAshfire908: well i think i will go with the apt-get linux-386 :(
04:45sonja(Canadia)
04:45ultraznice name ...
04:45kajsdklajsdhello, how can i access the folder /Users/My Documents/ from an ubuntu livecd, i can see any other folder but some of the folders in /Users/My Documents/, is there anyway of jumping over the permissions? (sorry if this question is out of place)
04:45Nergarhello
04:45sonjayou, ultraz?
04:45nickrudsignal9, are you using the ones from nvidia?
04:45Dr_willissonja,  the normal gnome file manager.. you use it every time ya click on a directory icon... type in fonts:/ in the address
04:45ultrazSerbia
04:45hamadooohi guys
04:45paxtonOk, that was close
04:45sonjaok thanks willis
* nickrud is a masochist
04:46anton___any way to make a partition post-installation? and then install another os on that partition...
04:46signal9yes, though installed using the restricted driver manager
04:46Ashfire908notos: oh. is your sys a 64-bit?
04:46paxtoni tried using the vesa driver, and It kept saying there was an xwindow running allready
04:46Dr_willissonja,  installing/removing fonts under linux is so much nicer then how windows does it. :)
04:46Delvienchickenfuego by blacklisting that it halfed my boot time, so i guess it was slowing it down lol
04:46Nergari have a problem, i updated my system today (i saw some linux headers in the updates), restarted and now it wont boot. Grub says: File not found
04:46hamadoooi got an error msg everytime i open the ubuntu it's about the setting deamon ..... and when i restart the computer everything goes alright
04:46chickenFuegoDelvien, so  and is your card stable now??
04:46paxtonIt kept saying that so i changed the xorg.conf back to via driver and it booted, but still in low res
04:46ultrazDr_willis: never did it, i will give it a try
04:47soulsuckerHi all... i have a minor issue..I just installed 64 bit version of ubuntu... and I can not get flash videos to play in firefox... swf and flash player and java are installed..any suggestions...?
04:47NotosAshfire908: good question but i dont think so as i am runing the x86 live cd
04:47Delvienchickenfuego looks like it
04:47Delvienchickenfuego ill come back if its not :)
04:47paxtonit also poped up a window when I stared up Ubuntu saying it was in low graphics mode
04:47Ashfire908notos: then the 386 is fine.
04:47Ashfire908notos: *the 386 is fine.
04:47nickrudsignal9, then you're using the ubuntu ones. My tidbit wouldn't help, sorry
04:47paxtonI changed it to a higher resolution, tested it, and it worked
04:47hamadoooi got an error msg everytime i open the ubuntu it's about the setting deamon ..... and when i restart the computer everything goes alright?
04:47paxtonthen it went back to 800 by 600
04:47paxtonnow i am lost again
04:48alainguys i have enabled the restricted driver.. but still cant work..
04:48kr00lcan someone help me install a .tar.bz2 file?
04:48rainwalkerkr00l: what's the file?
04:48NotosAshfire908, so it takes advantage of the 4 cores?
04:48paxtonCan someone help me fix my resolution then.?
04:49kr00lrainwalker: it's a "mupen64-0.5.tar.bz2"
04:49hamadoooanyone knows about the setting deamon ???
04:49verb3kkr00l, that file is an archive, it is like .zip and can contain anything from source code to executables
04:49ifireballhamadooo: what about it?
04:49alainpaxton have u installed the restricted drivers
04:49rainwalkerkr00l: never heard of it...what is it?
04:49paxtonI think so, ill check again
04:49Ashfire908Notos: 386 is the processor architecture. the amount of cores doesn't matter
04:49kr00lNintendo 64 emulator
04:49signal9so, I'm wondering if this morning's kernel updates just bork the nvidia driver outright?
04:49kr00lrainwalker: can you help me install it
04:49paxtonIT says it has no restricted drivers
04:50verb3kkr00l, right click and "extract here" and see what you get
04:50hamadoooifireball .. i have an error msg everytime i try to log in .. and it tells me to restart and when i restart everything goes alright
04:50rainwalkerkr00l: well first I'd say to extract the archive and see if there's anything in it telling you how to install
04:50bazhangkr00l: problematic with Ubuntu--install at your own risk
04:50paxtonbut I am still at 800 by 600 :(
04:50alainwat video card are u using
04:50Ashfire908Notos: (except the cell processor in the ps3. (8 are cell cores and one is powerpc))
04:50rainwalkerbazhang: what's problematic?
04:50paxtonI am using a via unichrome pro igp s3
04:50kr00lrainwalker: OK
04:50bazhangrainwalker: mupen :}
04:50NotosAshfire908, oh thanks the so no need to complie a kernel after install ?
04:50rainwalkerbazhang: how so?
04:51ifireballhamadooo: can you log in after you restart?
04:51bazhangrainwalker: doesnot work
04:51nickrudthe kernel is the one thing they should release new instead of updating, at least you could go back to the old one
04:51Ashfire908Notos, why do you think you need to?
04:51rainwalkerbazhang: ah...I can see how that might be problematic haha
04:51bazhanghehe
04:51hamadoooifireball yes i can .. but i have to restart the computer everytime i open the ubuntu
04:51paxtoncan someone help me then
04:51Old_GreggHello.  Can someone help me?  I have no sound whatsoever.
04:51sqlnoobbazhang: :( I got the firmware but i havent been able to install it so I can enable the card, i've looked online but when i do "sudo make install" the packet throws C programming errors
04:51Ashfire908!ask
04:51ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
04:52sqlnoobbazhang: I don't think my install is working as it should =/
04:52IdleOne!sound | Old_Gregg
04:52ubotuOld_Gregg: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
04:52NotosAshfire908, i dont know before when Warty was new there where linux-image-dual and the like if i remeber corectly
04:52Old_GreggScratch that, I have sound in World of Warcraft, but no where else.
04:52paxtonI asked if someone would help me fix my resolution, but nobody is helping :(
04:52hamadoooifireball it's some thing about gnome .. cuz when i tells me the error msg .. i lost all the icon and color
* nickrud hugs his laptop, it's so generic
04:52ifireballhamadooo: let me see if I get this right: comp on -> log in -> log out -> can`t log in back ?
04:52jhhhhi
04:52rainwalkernickrud: what laptop?
04:53jhhhi fanyone is here i need a hand with something kind of newb :/
* paxton bashes his laptop with a thick book. he now hates via
04:53rainwalkerjhhh: go ahead and ask
04:53jhhhI just installed tonight to check out an alternative to vista because i think its total garbage
04:53IdleOnejhhh: the any key is actualy not on the keyboard. use the enter key instead
04:53nickrudrainwalker, a gateway  (looks at the bottom) mt6451
04:53jhhhand i somehow corrupted my display -- and i cant see anything on it now, and i cant figure out a way to reset it to defaults :/
04:53Old_GreggIdleone:  I have no sound in anything but World of Warcraft, which leads one to believe (and I have verified) all settings are go.  Additionally, I had sound last night.  Now I don't.  Nothing has changed.
04:53jhhhIdleOne  :P
04:53rainwalkernickrud: Inspiron 8600 haha
04:53ifireballhamadooo: these errors usually come about when it has trouble reading/writing to your home dir
04:53hamadoooifireball first time i log in it gives me an error msg that gnome could not find something and you have to restart the computer in order to fix the problem
04:53nickrudrainwalker, the salesman let me boot an ubuntu live cd
04:53zubaerhow do i check load cycles on ubuntu?
04:53Ashfire908Notos, warty was a looooonnnnggggg time ago.... (i started using ubuntu at 6.10)
04:54Ljorringnickrud: my now installed drivers, fglrx, seem to do just fine without xgl - and without the desktop effects. when I then install the xgl without effects, it seems to lag, like something is wrong... can you come up with a hint?
04:54IdleOnejhhh: not that noob? :P
04:54jhhhif anyone can show me how to kill my gnome settings id appreciate it
04:54Ashfire908Notos, you don't nned to compile
04:54bazhangsqlnoob: which thing did you install? the firmware from the repos? or something else
04:54Nergari have a problem, i updated my system today (i saw some linux headers in the updates), restarted and now it wont boot. Grub says: File not found
04:54paxtonomg... so nobody is going to help me with the resolution on m