[00:00] te_ the cards in that list are not supported anymore and you need the legacy driver [00:00] ompaul: :) [00:00] butcherbird, I have another Ubuntu partition, the one I am currently in [00:00] You get a lot of people suggesting that for unhelpful reasons? [00:00] Last question: Would I be okay installing Feisty then upgrading to Gutsy, or is it better to download Gutsy and install? [00:01] butcherbird, and I have already fsck'd it. is there any way to get fsck to do a more thorough check, because it didn't find anything on the first go around [00:01] Shpook, just downloading gutsy is less work, but either way is fine. [00:01] hi [00:01] olli: Ok, I'm downloading it now. Tnx [00:01] i've got a problem [00:01] How do you get ubuntu's floppy disk handling to autodismount upon physical eject? I want ejecting the disk in hardware to dismount the floppy [00:01] Just had to convince myself it was the right one. [00:02] sometimes when i close a tab with playing flash video in epiphany, the whole x server crashes [00:02] olli: Kinda thick headed. (previous slackware user here) [00:02] te_ HTH and thanks a lot for your assistance !!! I would have never found that mistiake [00:02] Gluonman: Thank you. I'm sort of limited on time, and I have a Feisty CD laying around. Thanks again! [00:02] Shpook, no prob. [00:03] can someone help me hear sound through this laptop? [00:03] no, they have to help me with my floppy issues first [00:03] !sound | jeff__ [00:04] jeff__: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:04] olli: Yea, well, grub uses hd0 for hda and same with partition numbers. So (hd0,0)=hda1 and it follows that (hd0,7)=hda6 [00:05] etjhnet, not the way gnu/linux works it would be nice - the only way it works is if you use mtools but once you mount it you got to umount it [00:05] anyone can tell me how to add another os on grub ? [00:05] Ok, thanks all, gotta run. [00:05] gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst is the manual way [00:05] olli: Tnx agn [00:05] timewriter: ^ [00:05] timewriter: chain loading? [00:05] how do I get ndiswrapper to load on boot? [00:05] i installed another os on a different HDD [00:05] johnficca: add ndiswrapper to your /etc/modules [00:05] te_: no problem. thank you! [00:05] johnficca: gksudo gedit /etc/modules to open it up [00:05] and i want to be able to choose it too when boot loads [00:05] Hi, can someone help me install the udf 2.5 filesystem patch for Gutsy? [00:06] scguy318: thanks [00:06] hello [00:06] ompaul: What do you mean? [00:07] ubotu, butcherbird. thanks ALSA was selected.. I will keep reading [00:07] what if i boot ubuntu from cd , and reinstall grub ? [00:07] etjhnet, it ain't going to be automagic in any way I have ever used gnu/linux - you can use a thing called mtools to do it without mounting [00:07] it will work ? [00:07] what about playing with fstab? [00:07] etjhnet, well it mounts it but ... [00:07] im too lame for that [00:07] ok another problem that I am having is when I boot, it won't boot tell I press ctrl + alt + f1 [00:07] i might damage everything [00:07] I'm having an odd error when using my DVD drive. Whenever I try to play a DVD with mplayer, it hangs for a while, then spits out "a52: CRC check failed!" many times. Looking at dmesg while trying to play a DVD reveals this: "[ 1231.840000] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 6031144" (many times, with different sector numbers each time) [00:07] is it possible to downgrade wine from 0.9.46 to 0.9.45 or do i have to compile it then? [00:08] Elly , the dvd is scratched [00:08] etjhnet, that is only for what you mount and how you mount it - it has no extended functionality like you are looking for [00:08] installing flashplugin-nonfree with a downloaded copy of the tarball (v115), it installs v48 (the version it would download if i let it). whats up with that? [00:08] timewriter: no it's not; it plays perfectly in a DVD player and another machine [00:08] why does Ubuntu block the kernel bootup messages with a graphical splash screen ? What happens if I compile a new kernel and it fails and then I can't see where or how exactly it fails because of the graphical splash screen ? [00:08] Elly: or could be copy proteted - then it did not run in my ubuntu [00:08] it just sits with a black screen tell I press ctrl + Alt + f1 [00:08] hm [00:08] then its a protection i guess [00:08] Elly: install libdvdcss2 [00:08] Elly: probably because the other DVD player ignores the error [00:08] xnor: I'll try that [00:08] !dvd | Elly [00:08] Elly: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs [00:09] I am using ubuntu gutsy if anyone would like to know [00:09] !Medibuntu [00:09] medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [00:09] how does gutsy include it by default then? [00:09] if it's for legal reasons [00:10] stupid hdd makes a weird noise [00:10] it drives me insane [00:10] timewriter: could be getting ready to go [00:10] howdy what is the command to go up one directory in the terminal ? [00:10] its just a strange vibration [00:10] like a pulsation [00:11] timewriter: I'm happy now, flash hdd [00:11] i have 4 [00:11] which ione is ? [00:11] xnor: it doesn't include libdvdcss2 by default [00:11] Will a patch for kernel 2.6.16 for for Gutsy? [00:11] one* [00:11] aha! DVDs work perfectly now :) [00:11] thank you all! [00:11] xnor: perhaps you were thinking libdvdread3? [00:11] Is there a way to kill a process through either a shellscript or the terminal? [00:11] hi all [00:11] of course Cereal [00:11] Cereal: kill PID [00:11] Cereal: kill [00:11] Will a patch for kernel 2.6.16 work for Gutsy? === [1]akhilesh is now known as akhilesh [00:12] lol... i had a very simple question didn't i? [00:12] torrent3: most likely not [00:12] is it possible to run the livecd on a headless box using vnc? [00:12] Thanks guys :D [00:12] as in certain cults , its possible to kill a daemon , if you know its tru name :) [00:12] if you don't have the pid, pkill [00:12] jmg: possible yes, but I doubt you can use the livecd as downloaded from ubuntu.com [00:12] scguy318: so it would be "kill PID firefox-bin"? [00:12] scguy318: hmm, was looking at a gutsy install where I just checkinstalled it or something [00:12] I get no boot screen when I boot and nothing will happen until I press ctrl + alt + f1, then it will start the boot in text mode then all is ok...is there a way to fix this? [00:12] Can anyone help me with my VPN server? [00:13] scguy318: does libdvdread3 work properly with vlc? [00:13] pkill firefox [00:13] I pasted my question 2 times [00:13] but here it goes again; [00:13] Hi; I'm currently having problems with my VPN server. It allows me to connect and I can connect to the server itself inside the VPN, but it won't let me connect outside the box, as example google.com.. Anyone knows what could be the problem? Some config setting or firewall? [00:13] a [00:13] rsk: What about for 2.6.22-rc4? [00:13] torrent3: that's about the same [00:14] :( [00:14] Hmm "kill pid firefox-bin" doesn't seem to kill the process. Am I doing something wrong? [00:14] torrent3: you will most likely be required to redo the patch [00:14] ciao [00:14] torrent3: what is the patch? [00:14] killall firefox-bin [00:14] Cereal: kill takes a PID [00:14] rsk: UDF 2.5 [00:14] Cereal: "kill PID" where pid is of firefox-bin [00:14] !list [00:14] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [00:14] Cereal: substitute PID for the process id. use pkill if you dont know it [00:14] Cereal: or just killall firefox-bin [00:14] torrent3: dont know what that is .. [00:14] Bruenig: Thanks :) [00:14] Cereal: or pkill firefox-bin [00:14] sorry [00:14] Thanks a lot :D [00:14] or xkill ftw [00:14] rsk: Filesystem for Blu-ray discs [00:14] aha. [00:14] butcherbird: if you have X :) [00:14] torrent3: isn't it included in the latest kernel? [00:15] rsk: I don't know [00:15] Thanks a lot everyone ^ ^ [00:15] linxeh: who doesn't who is running FF? [00:15] ok i would chek that out [00:15] before trying to patch [00:15] rsk: I didn't find anything about it, and nobody seems to know [00:15] xnor: heh good point :) [00:16] torrent3: easist is to download latest from git and try make menuconfig and see if it's there [00:16] rsk: git? [00:16] What is it that I have to write in order to run a gedit file as a "program"? Isn't it chmod -x? or something like that? [00:16] torrent3: bah. you don't know what git is? [00:16] torrent3: chek wikipedia or something [00:16] Cereal: chmod +x [00:16] torrent3: Thanks :D [00:17] well right now, if you go to "Computer" and click on floppy, it mounts it but navigates to the root dir which confuses the user [00:18] rsk: OKay, I see. So Ubuntu comes with git? [00:18] what is the name of the program that helps you change some of the boot options like screen size and boot theme? [00:18] yes if you install it [00:18] is it like startup [00:18] or [00:18] bootup [00:18] Can it at least automatically go to the floppy dir it creates? [00:18] Okay, so I wrote my "script" (I think it's called a shellscript or something) containing the line: killall firefox-bin. I have chmod -x'et it. But now I want it to lie on my taskbar so I can just click it and it kills firefox. How do I do that? :) [00:19] startupmanager thats it [00:19] okay, so i rebuilt both libgpod and amarok and my ipod still doesnt show the songs i imported, am i missing something? [00:19] <{Nathan}> I mount my external HD with user and rw in fstab and it works fine, but after a little bit it suddenly switches the whole thing to read-only (for me and if I am root). Any ideas why it does this? [00:19] Cereal: create a launcher that does killall firefox-bin [00:20] scguy318: How do I do that? :) [00:20] rsk: Which package do I install to get git? There're many of them listed [00:20] git core i think [00:20] torrent3, cogito too i think [00:20] Cereal: right click, Add to Panel, then Custom Application Launcher [00:21] scguy318: Thanks a lot :) [00:21] which is better> cogito or git-core/ [00:22] when i close a tab with playing flash video in epiphany, the whole x server crashes anyone got a clue? [00:22] I have a bunch of issues with a really new install... anyone care to help? [00:23] no sound, flash isnt working, and well... thats really it... but they are two huge things to me [00:23] jeff___ what sound card? [00:23] jeff___: for flash, message ubotu with flash [00:23] glycerine, I really dont know... I dont know what this thing has its a sony vaio laptop [00:23] jeff__: for sound see !alsa [00:23] alsa is selected [00:23] !flashissue | jeff__ [00:23] jeff__: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix. [00:24] * Slasher` is Away, Reason: ( dead ) | Since: ( Wednesday, December 26, 2007. 14:28:03 ) Xlack v2.1 [00:24] !alsa | jeff___ [00:24] jeff___: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:24] oops shit sorry i forgot xlack sends away msg's to all chans [00:24] jeff__: if your device is an Intel HDA, you probably need to install latest ALSA tarball [00:25] scguy318 just a sec... I will tell you what I know [00:25] Does anybody know if it is possible to set up a local Ubuntu package repository? I have several machines running Kubuntu and one machine which is always on, and could serve packages to the other machines. [00:25] it says its an intel according to linux [00:25] !aptoncd > invisi [00:25] I'm thinking like rsync'ing an official repository or something. But I've been unable to find anything on Google. [00:25] scguy318 how do I get that HD install? [00:26] !aptoncd [00:26] APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers [00:26] jeff__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [00:26] jeff__: you'll need to obtain a tarball from [00:26] Invert314, there's several ways, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories [00:26] Jack_Sparrow, thanks - but that's not what I want. [00:26] jeff__: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page [00:26] erm, invisi see threee lines up [00:26] sup room [00:27] nickrud, wrong name =D [00:27] hmmm... where's the compiz theme manager for gnome? [00:27] I installed the package, but I cant find it anywhere? [00:27] nickrud, thanks - I'll check it out. [00:27] Invert314, why couldn't you be away ;( [00:27] scguy318 i really appreciate the help [00:27] hey guy i have a dual boot problem [00:27] maybe someone can help me out [00:27] jeff__: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller is also of interest [00:28] whenever I select my Ubuntu Gutsy from the GRUB menu it goes to a screen saying that it 'cannot mount the selected partition.' I have run fsck on the partition and it found no errors. What can I do? it happened after a power outage. [00:28] i have 2 hard drives 1 ubuntu 1 xp i have grub install as mbr on my ubuntu drive and also set to bios to boot to that drive 1st [00:28] jamescarr, you probably want compizconfig-settings-manager , and it'll show up in the prefs menu [00:28] not there [00:28] but when i go to boot xp drive i get an error [00:29] error 17, sYn_0n3? [00:29] yes i believe it is [00:29] Is it possible in ubuntu to "umount on eject" for floppies? [00:29] it means the grub loader is pointing to the wrong partition [00:29] jamescarr, advanced desktop effects settings ? [00:29] nickrud, unfortunately that URL did not provide any information regarding what I want, only how the Ubuntu repository works. [00:29] is it possible to clone a UUID for a toasted drive? LVM drive fried, ddrescue'ing it currently [00:29] Maybe someone can help me out with this, IM runnint a toshiba m45 laptop with Intel 2200-B/G wifi card, I cant connect to my router the scanner finds my router but wont connect, however if i manually set up the wireless connection it will work [00:29] What I want is basically to mirror the full repository onto my server at home. [00:30] when i list partitions mine says hd0,0 for ubuntu [00:30] And I wanted to know if that was possible. [00:30] what should i put for xp ? [00:30] rsk: Okay so I've installed git.. How do I install my patch using it? [00:30] load ubuntu and run gparted, find out which specific partition xp is on, and edit the menu.lst [00:30] Does anyone experience that when you go to "computer" and click floppy, it mounts the floppy but navigates to the root dir? [00:30] invisi, huh, there used to be stuff, only thing left is my personal one. A sec [00:30] what is the shortcut to switch to another desktop? [00:30] isnt there a key combo? [00:30] Why doesn't it naviagate to the floppy's directory? [00:30] what should i put as the drive? [00:30] has anyone installed fuppes? [00:30] hd0,1? [00:30] glycerine, yes you can pvcreate --uuid if you know the UUID of the toasted disk. [00:30] jamescarr ctrl+arrow key i think [00:30] alt+ctrl+left/right/up/down/1/2/3/4 [00:30] I am looking for the dev package of ffmpeg [00:30] or ctrl+shift+arrow [00:31] there we go :) [00:31] jamescarr: CTRL+ALT+[arrow key] [00:31] sYn_0n3, I take it you're in ubuntu now? [00:31] yes sir [00:31] invisi Thanks. I have read that, but won't that destroy the dd'd data? [00:31] stan-k, nope [00:31] have you got gparted? [00:31] yes [00:31] When i search for available networks with my onboard wifi card im unable to connect unless i manually set up the connection, anyone else had this problem before? [00:31] its open already [00:32] how do I install udf 2.5 patch with git-core? [00:32] open it and check which partition has xp [00:32] ah [00:32] available networks show up but im unable to connect [00:32] jamescarr: yep :) it does work for me_ [00:32] /dev/sdb [00:32] I am trying to access my shared docs in my VirtualBox Windows XP machine.... and I used to be able to do it with no hassle.... but now I get this error : The folder contents could not be displayed. Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "Windows Network: zeth-xp". ------ Anyone? [00:32] glycerine, pvcreate overwrites a megabyte or something in the beginning of the disk. I'm not quite sure if it's that much however. [00:32] it's the entire hard disk? no partitions? [00:32] entire disk no partitions [00:32] invisi, http://www.howtoforge.com/local_debian_ubuntu_mirror , also look into apt-got , debpartial-mirror, apt-proxy [00:32] glycerine, it does not wipe any data on the disk, except for some few blocks. man pvcreate will probably tell you how much it overwrites. [00:33] hmm, then I don't know about that, it should have been easy enough to load using bios instead of grub [00:33] nickrud, that looks more like it (from the URL) - I'll look into it. Thanks! [00:33] # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS [00:33] # on /dev/sdb [00:33] title Microsoft Windows XP Professional [00:33] root (sdb,0) [00:33] savedefault [00:33] makeactive [00:33] chainloader +1 [00:33] invisi, someone really cut back on the first wiki page [00:33] sorry [00:33] how do I install udf 2.5 patch with git-core? [00:33] how do i paste?? [00:33] invisi gotcha. I'll give it a shot, always have the bad disk to reclone :) [00:33] !paste | sYn_0n3 [00:33] sYn_0n3: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [00:34] rsk are you still there [00:34] perhaps that entry in the grub menu should read " [00:34] oops [00:34] what's the opposite of lazy unmount [00:34] "root (hd0)" [00:34] stan-k: I have compiz installed... mnaybe that is causing issues? [00:34] Jangari thats my entry in grub [00:34] magick211:edit network interfaces [00:35] hmm i havent tried that [00:35] yeah, i know, but instead of (sdb,0) perhaps it should be (hd0) [00:35] anyone? [00:35] like this root (hd0,0)? [00:35] jamescarr: i don't think so, i have compiz installed, too. try modifying settings in compiz [00:35] how do I install udf 2.5 patch with git-core? [00:35] does it make sense to use the rootnoverify option? [00:36] but you shouldn't take my word for it, i had a similar problem two days ago but on a single hard drive, don't know how it would work on a single drive [00:36] how do i find out the uid of a hdd so my scripts can reference that instead of /dev/sda (since it could be sdb if i have a usb hdd plugged in) [00:36] let me try that... [00:36] brb [00:36] how do i install udf 2.5 patch for gutsy [00:36] pgjensen, ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -l [00:36] there ya go [00:36] thx [00:36] but if there are no partitions, it should probably be (hd0), anyone agree? [00:37] My processor is AMD64 3000+ 1Ghz (as reported in /proc/cpuinfo), and I'm running 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SNP QUESTION: Should I try to install 64bit kernel? Any advantage to it? or...? [advice requested]... [00:37] * nickrud hides from the grub questions [00:37] ha [00:37] if you don't want software to work yes te_ :) [00:37] don't waste your time [00:38] te_: most software other than proprietary stuff works [00:38] man... I really like linux when its all done... but it is a pain to get going [00:38] jamescarr: for example, in CompizConfig Settings Manager in Rotate Cube (i use cube) under Actions tab - rotate left, rotate right... [00:38] sometimes. [00:38] te_, if you're doing serious video or audio editing, or number crunching (with software that takes advantage of 64 bits) yes,otherwise no real reason [00:38] anyone have any idea why a single machine runs xp at lightning speed, speeds i've never witnessed on any windows installation ever, while gutsy on the same machine is running at a snail's pace? [00:38] driver issues [00:38] udma not enabled? [00:39] is that directed to me, pgjensen? [00:39] how do i install udf 2.5 patch for gutsy [00:39] can anyone recommend an audio extractor for .flv files [00:39] yes Jangari [00:39] i installed git-core [00:39] now what [00:39] Jangari, ubuntu is known to run a bit sluggishly [00:39] udma, eh? [00:39] hdparm and make sure it's enabled [00:39] stan-k, there is no actions tab (I use cube too) [00:39] but bruenig, i've been running ubuntu on several machines, and this is the fastest machine on paper, [00:39] torrent3, you probably won't get much support here for custom kernels [00:39] nickrud: Ok, won't bother with it. Thanks. [00:39] all other machines run ubuntu without any performance problems, [00:40] is that the command, pgjensen? hdparm? [00:40] jamescarr: em... there is always the Actions tab... [00:40] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [00:40] jamescarr: are you sure you don't have it? [00:40] nickrud im not looking for kernel [00:40] hi, i think i messed up my x windows server, can someone help me [00:40] the thing I am using is called gnome compiz preferences [00:40] Has it been yet? [00:40] im looking for udf 2.5 [00:40] Read the last comment [00:40] yeah, man hdparm [00:40] whenever I select my Ubuntu Gutsy from the GRUB menu it goes to a screen saying that it 'cannot mount the selected partition.' I have run fsck on the partition and it found no errors. What can I do? it happened after a power outage. [00:40] jamescarr: alright... [00:41] torrent3, you're patching the kernel, no? [00:41] for gutsy kernel [00:41] nickrud yeah [00:41] jamescarr: i think you need to install CompizConfig Settings manager then [00:41] is there a forum on error 17? [00:41] demonspork UUID changed? [00:41] because it seems heaps of people would benefit [00:41] i'm happy :) [00:41] Question #2: I'm trying to run NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.01-pkg1.run and it tells me that I need libc [00:41] anyone here have experience making bifilar coils? [00:42] "libc header files" [00:42] What needs to be installed? [00:42] te_ install build-essential? [00:42] check out this convo -> http://www.cybertown.com/cgi-bin/jail/place?plc=jail&ac=place&ID=0000000000000033&force=s [00:42] Hello? [00:42] glycerine: Thanks [00:42] te_, you should use the nvidia stuff in the restricted-manager , but you can install build-essential to get past that problem === blahjust is now known as oddalot [00:42] they talking about ubuntu vs suse [00:42] stan-k, package name? [00:42] hi, i think i messed up my x windows server, can someone help me [00:42] okay.. atleast someone tell me if udf 2.5 will work with the next ubuntu [00:42] jamescarr: in Synaptic search for compizconfig-settings-manager [00:43] if you dont wanna help me patch, thats fine [00:43] oh, another thing, how do i set up an automount for a hdd partition? [00:43] ntfs [00:43] te_ a guess only :) that plus the headers for your kernel. Also search synaptic for libc if all else fails :) [00:43] i keep getting hda: drive not ready for command in dmesg, what does this mean [00:43] when i double click on a title bar my windows don't maximize or minimize...it just slides up like a projector screen kinda (or a mac window) anyone know where this option is to change it? [00:43] Jangari: edit /etc/fstab I guess [00:44] Jangari put it in your fstab [00:44] does fstab need sudo? [00:44] oddalot, system-prefs-windows [00:44] jangari yep [00:44] oddalot: it will be in the settings for gnome or kde or whatever window manager you use [00:44] stan-k, no results :( [00:44] jamescarr: still no Actions tab? [00:44] so entering the line sudo mount ntfs.... into fstab should do it? [00:45] can someone help me "i keep getting hda: drive not ready for command in dmesg, what does this mean" [00:45] hi, i think i messed up my x windows system, can someone help me [00:45] stan-k, no.. let me take a screenshot and post it [00:45] !fstab | Jangari [00:45] Jangari: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [00:45] might help better [00:45] ta nickrud [00:45] Jangari no, well there you go, for ubotu :) [00:45] from* [00:45] thanks [00:45] xshadowfire: dplg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [00:45] Jangari: nope... read `man fstab' [00:45] okay, sure, [00:45] glycerine, is that common? [00:45] 5tb partition... xfs, ext3, or jfs? [00:46] stan-k, nvm... got it working [00:46] xshadowfire: dpkg that is [00:46] glycerine, how do I check if that is the case? [00:46] storage, performance doesn't matter [00:46] weird though.. there was no action tab [00:46] stability matters [00:46] jamescarr: :) [00:46] lol, Jangari I nearly never mention man, but they often are the very best resourse [00:46] at work i have to mount a network server, and fstab on that doesn't appear to work, although this is just a local hdd [00:46] hey, using "ftp" how to get a whole folder, and all sub-folders inside it including their files too.! is there anyway? [00:46] but my problem was I only had one viewport defined [00:46] can someone help me"i keep getting hda: drive not ready for command in dmesg, what does this mean" [00:46] alright [00:46] is it possible to downgrade from gutsy to fiesty? [00:47] torrent3: why would you do that [00:47] Can someone help me with Dell? [00:47] ok, i changed it in the windows option...under system->preferences, and it still just rolls up instead of maximizing or minimizing [00:47] pwnt i cant find a udf 2.5 patch for gutsy [00:47] ipsemet: That looks like a failing Hard drive. [00:47] They say linux but I am not, plus there is no Dell IRC [00:47] demonspork happened to me in fstab, check what's there vs what's in ls /dev/disk/by-uuid [00:47] oddalot: did you hit apply? [00:47] yes [00:47] try and restart x too [00:47] well...there is no apply [00:47] if that doesn't work it should be on the forums [00:47] and it was set to maximize by default [00:47] demonspork if that's still congruent, check what's in the menu..lst [00:48] it says titlebar action [00:48] i thought so, is it posssible that a corrupted harddrive can somehow damage another harddrive [00:48] let me restart [00:48] and see if that fixes it [00:48] bbiab [00:48] no ipsemet [00:48] Can someone please help me with Dell problems? [00:48] can someone help me install beryl, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49640/ [00:48] pwnt is it possible? or do i just copy the kernel folder from another system that has fiesty installed? [00:48] describe your problem and someone just might Funkydan5 [00:49] Ok thanks, ok.. [00:49] thanks [00:49] torrent3: I'm not sure, I was just curious about why would you go back to fiesty! and you have a good reason to. but sorry I don't know. [00:49] nickrud, thanks so much! The URL you gave my was perfect! [00:50] gave me* [00:50] invisi, yw [00:50] \server [00:50] how do i install new fonts into ubuntu can i just copy them into fints folder? [00:50] Funkydan5: Whats the issue? [00:51] how do i install udf 2.5 patch for gutsy [00:51] I restarted my computer because an install was acting slow to the compuer, Service Pack, not noticing its importance I exited out and restarted, my compuer does not let me load because it says it is missing the /system32/drivers/ftps (i think) and I tried using the CDs, like reinstall and drivers CD, but nothing happens, it starts up (i can hear i) but nothing, it just is quiet. I tried [00:51] making it a slave, ut that does not work [00:51] using ftp a_server.com I'm trying to put a whole directory into my other server with all sub-folders in it and files in those all folders too. I tried using "mplug ~/foldername" it says that [00:51] * Funkydan5 rests hands lol [00:51] ipsemet: thanks, it works again [00:51] /home/user/folder : not a plain file. [00:51] what should I do to be able to do this [00:52] Funkydan5, for windows, you're more likely to find competent help in #windows [00:52] wow... I did not know there was one [00:52] <|thunder> dang it, how the f do I pick a usb mic as the recording source ? [00:52] well, off to jump for the 2nd time now lol [00:52] ty [00:52] Funkydan5, there's zillions, try ircsearch.com [00:52] lol o ok [00:53] Good evening [00:53] google should start indexing irc :) [00:54] pgjensen they do :/ [00:54] oh heh [00:54] what's the default root password? [00:54] pgjensen server logs :) [00:54] !root | Jangari [00:54] Jangari isn't one, set it by sudo passwd [00:54] Jangari: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [00:54] Jangari root account is disabled [00:55] I have a problem with non english languages. the first I did from breezy was with bashrc. then I solved it with /etc/environment, but now I don't know where. I want an english environment to support greek that aren't utf8 like cds and dvds [00:55] so su won't work? i should just use sudo pico to edit /etc/fstab? [00:55] I'm using Gutsy btw [00:55] glycerine, we don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, cheers ;-) [00:55] Jangari yep, that's the way they set it up [00:55] can someone help me install beryl, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49640/ [00:55] unless i enable root [00:56] but i can't be bothered [00:56] Jangari, sudo nano /etc/fstab [00:56] oh, ompaul I'm gonna quote you on that, best response yest [00:56] replacement for pico [00:56] nickrud, I am sure I used that before :P [00:56] Anyone here got his blu-ray drive working in gutsy? [00:57] glycerine, no the uuid has not changed [00:57] hmm, for some reason ubuntu shows my external hard drive twice, is there anyway i can fix this [00:57] ompaul gotcha ;) [00:57] Jangari: You could also use sudo su -, but why go through all that extra typing? [00:57] demonspork You install windows after ubuntu? [00:57] enkidu_ak , we don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, cheers ;-) === HashBox_ is now known as HashBox [00:57] Hi. [00:58] enkidu_ak, isn't the better way to use sudo -s or perhaps sudo -i [00:58] Youtube videos won't play. [00:58] ompaul i knew that had to a macro ;) [00:58] Any suggestions? === nick__ is now known as nrober [00:58] nickrud want a factoid for that? [00:58] sadaiyappan install flash [00:58] glycerine, na I uparrowed :P [00:58] i did. [00:58] i installed flash it doesn't work.. [00:59] hey, i need some help.. [00:59] <{Nathan}> I mount /dev/sda1 with the options "users,auto,rw". Root reads and writes to it fine, but how can I make my user account have r/w access? [00:59] <{Nathan}> I mount it in fstab btw. [00:59] !cred [00:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about cred - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [00:59] hi any one here got a Creative Zen working under gutsy? [01:00] glycerine, yes, but then I reinstalled grub. The only factor that changed is that one of my 2 ubuntu partitions fails to boot with the aformentioned error, failed to mount selected partition [01:00] my screen is all wacked out, my mouse pointer can go farther than it should(off the screen) and I can't see my bottom panel [01:00] linux shit [01:00] <{Nathan}> jago: Try setting the bounds on your monitor [01:00] !language | Fxyz4ever [01:00] Fxyz4ever: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [01:00] <{Nathan}> jago: sounds like you just need to ajust the picture [01:00] (the new zen) [01:01] how do I do that? I've been messing with the screen and graphics preference but the tests keep failing [01:01] demonspork so you have 2 ubuntu installs, and one boots, one doesn't? [01:01] in addition to the windows [01:01] anybody knows how can I have an english environment with greek support on Gutsy? [01:01] <{Nathan}> jago: There should be buttons on your monitor and a menu will pop up, and you can do it from there [01:01] linux s**t [01:01] <{Nathan}> jago: this is just a guess of what's happening though [01:01] im on a laptop [01:01] dxdemetriou, you have to add a keyboard layout in the keyboard settings [01:01] I'm looking to get WINE up and running, and I'm not having any luck so far... running Gutsy Gibbon an an AMD64 [01:01] whats gutsy`s first login username and password? [01:02] zafer, whatever you set it to [01:02] zafer, on install you set it up [01:02] sorry ompaul [01:02] pppoe_dude, I did that and the Languages Support. when I use cds/dvds or programs that don't use utf8 I have the problem [01:02] Thresher, no problem, positive reinforcement :) [01:02] <|thunder> Why are there no linux users on stickam ? Come join me in the linux room. [01:02] dxdemetriou, ah that is program-dependent [01:03] dxdemetriou, usually all the programs that come with ubuntu by default support most of the languages in the system (especially if you install a language pack) [01:03] i dont install anything! for insatll i have to boot, but i cant [01:03] !spam | |thunder [01:03] |thunder: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubotu ): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense... === blahjust is now known as oddalot [01:03] dxdemetriou, but additional programs may not follow that sometimes [01:03] i found the double click titlebar option..it was under the emerald theme manager [01:03] pppoe_dude, I did it before with bashrc, after it stop working I did it with /etc/environment and now I don't know [01:03] <|thunder> ohh golly. its not spam , lol [01:04] hot 2 start freevo appli. [01:04] Hmmmm... nobody? [01:04] hmmm... everything is locking up [01:04] 7.10 is booting into a bad resolution for my lcd monitor. It only allows 800x600 and 640x480, so now every boot is garbled. How do I boot back into the graphic setup mode? [01:04] what line should I add to fstab to mount dev/sda3 on startup? [01:04] yone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter? [01:05] it`s admin:admin or root:root, i cant find on google [01:05] aadd/remove kye [01:05] kye, devede or sthg like that [01:05] the entire os...or just the boot screen is garbled? [01:05] Thresher, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -- if you can't get that right then you need to use the live CD and copy its /etc/X11/xorg.conf to the hard drive [01:05] pppoe_dude, I have this problem also in wine [01:05] yeah, seems like i cant change my resolution [01:06] funny enough oddalot the ubuntu logo screen comes up fine but when the log in comes it is garbled. I have been fighting with gutsy to correctly allow me 1280x1024 on this dell 1907fp. [01:06] Jangari you see the fstab link ubotu did? basically /dev/sda3 /mountpoint options [01:06] !fstab | Jangari [01:06] Jangari: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [01:06] hmmm...strange...mine said incorrect mode....but it still displayed it... [01:06] thanks dell!! [01:07] guys how 2 start freevo program [01:07] ./freevo? [01:07] what directory is xorg.conf in? [01:07] oddalot: /etc/X11/ [01:07] oddalot /etc/X11 [01:07] thx~ [01:07] that is great instruction ompaul [01:08] anybody now, what`s gutsy`s install password? gnome login page ask me username and password, but i dont install anything, and i`ve not a password or username [01:08] is there a keyboard command or a way to make a keyboard command to switch between workspaces? [01:08] zafer you specified it when you installed the os [01:08] zafer er someone else specified it when they installed it, you'll have to ask them [01:08] that I'm trying to do is to change the LANG and LC_TYPE for gnome, not only for terminal [01:08] Thresher, you sorted [01:09] ? [01:09] I am [01:09] good [01:09] but have more questions about this issue [01:09] oh whoops i didn't need xorg.conf...which file has the grub boot menu list in it? [01:09] be careful what you ask for ;-) [01:09] i dont install ubuntu [01:09] oddalot /boot [01:09] its ubuntu`s first live boot from cd [01:10] zafer the boot cd ought to boot straight up with no password [01:10] then you shouldnt need to login [01:10] oddalot: /boot/grub/menu.lst and you shouldn't need to edit that [01:10] sure you didnt click that install-icon on the desktop? [01:10] Gutsy finds my monitor and names it correctly but it only allows lame resolutions...others in forums have complained about it and the ATI video cards. What issue do i sort out first? The monitor or the running of ati drivers? [01:10] zafer, there is no password just type sudo command in a terminal for terminal stuff then you do gksu for graphical commands [01:10] Thresher lemme guess, dell laptop? [01:10] dell 1907flat panel lcd stand alone monitor [01:10] close though [01:11] thresher, have you tried editing the xorg.conf? [01:11] Anyone here got his blu-ray drive working in gutsy? [01:11] I will head there now.... [01:11] Thresher well i got that monitor going with an ati mobility 9600 === ricardo is now known as jago [01:11] What do I need in my windows environment to be able to edit or possibly work with the xorg.conf [01:11] Thresher the resolution problems for me came up with compiz installed [01:11] oh you did glycerine? [01:11] Thresher notepad [01:12] nice [01:12] Can anyone guess why my new RAM freezes my thinpad T21. It won't boot at all. Bought the RAM from here: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=32X64NB100-SAM-N [01:12] type sudo gedit xorg.conf [01:12] Thresher, you can'T ,you can'T read ext3 from windows [01:12] matthewpoer: have you ran memtest on it? maybe it's shot? [01:12] thanks pelo [01:12] the computer won't even boot with the new RAM in it. [01:12] Thresher yeah, had to give up compiz. there is a funky issue with gnome window size vs X size that i ran into. Still didn't fix that one [01:12] now chance in hell or hard for a newbie? [01:12] matthewpoer, if it is (A) faulty (B) not the right ram (C) no other answers in my list [01:13] is the ram properly seated? [01:13] yes [01:13] matthepoer - if it wont launch even to bios then you need to check compatibility of ram [01:13] re-seated, re-tested 4-5 times [01:13] Thresher, you can do it from the livecd if you need to , make sure you get the xorg.conf from the hdd and not the one from the live cd [01:13] i'm going to steal ompaul's list. and pass them off as my reasons. [01:13] * ompaul unravels unravel [01:13] nooo..then he will just be ravel [01:13] RAM is listed here as PC-100, SODIMM etc: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T21, is this not correct: http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=32X64NB100-SAM-N? [01:13] im am dual booted and wanted to stay in irc with you guys around, but will have to leave and come back. thanks ompaul, pelo and everyone else [01:14] Thresher, enjoy [01:14] Thresher, you can connect to ircfrom the live cd [01:14] nice [01:14] yes we are [01:14] i am impressed [01:15] * Pelo 's ego is inflating to the size of an op's [01:15] * wols_ pinpricks Pelo [01:15] * Pelo explodes all over wols , making him messy [01:15] Palo come over and fix this LVM issue... that'll deflate it ;) [01:16] Pelo rather [01:16] glycerine, it's Pelo and I know nothing of this LVM of which you speak [01:16] I know what LVM is, I just don'T know anything about it [01:17] Pelo trial by fire :) [01:17] glycerine, what is the issue ? [01:17] * Pelo is bored enough to attempt it anyway [01:18] Pelo Bad disk. ddrescueing to another disk now. Hoping i can pvcreate UUID to the old disk's UUID without destroying data and bring the array back up :/ [01:18] !seen Gangsterls [01:18] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen gangsterls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:18] glycerine, what is the use of uuid in lvm ? or is this just for fstab ? [01:19] after that, i'm buying the first 3 gigabit enabled drobo's i can get my hands on :) [01:19] drobo ? [01:19] BaNaNa TiMe :D [01:19] Pelo my understanding is that the volume ids in the lvgroup are the UUIDs and that's how it specifies the pv in the group [01:19] pelo www.drobo.com [01:19] does renaming directories from [name] to .[name] screw them up in windows? I don't want to see my 'volume system information' from ubuntu [01:20] Jangari windows will get irked [01:20] Jangari, you cannot have a . in windows dir names [01:20] [ BaNaNa TiMe [01:20] probably [01:20] ;p; [01:20] lol [01:20] BaNaNaS, can we help you with anything ? [01:20] no,im bored [01:20] :p [01:21] BaNaNaS, be bored elsewhere [01:21] :() [01:21] Damn [01:21] why ? [01:21] no, hang on, you can, apple systems write .trash folders to volumes all the time, they come up as hidden folders in windows too [01:21] BaNaNaS: because this is a channel for Ubuntu support only [01:21] Whats Ubuntu ? [01:21] BaNaNaS, www.ubuntu.com [01:22] Jangari true, but windows is hardcoded to look for those files i think. Renaming them on the ubuntu box might freak it out [01:22] !ubuntu [01:22] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [01:22] clicking... [01:22] Bleh [01:22] hmm, right [01:22] Vista here [01:22] I have done apt-get update, when I do apt-search php4, i can't see any PHP 4 packages, any reason for that? [01:22] vista? be gone with you [01:22] ok :P [01:22] hey guys, i have a small prob on my laptop while using ubuntu: the wireless connections are visible and i find the network i want to connect with. Byt nomatter the encryption and security type i keep getting timed out by the router. [01:22] how about apt-cache search filename [01:22] Be nice :) [01:22] sorry, apt-cache search php4 [01:22] repositories enabled, robr? [01:23] BaNaNaS split :/ [01:23] pfft, [01:23] * Jangari invades glycerine with a detached bullbar for that comment [01:23] Jangari: i don't what repositories are sorry [01:23] so i guess not :) [01:23] LegionaryK your personal router you have control over? e.g. no MAC filters etc? [01:23] !wifi | LegionaryK I hope you can find something in this, cause I don'T know how to help you, or you might do a search in the forum as well www.ubuntuforums.org [01:23] LegionaryK I hope you can find something in this, cause I don'T know how to help you, or you might do a search in the forum as well www.ubuntuforums.org: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [01:23] sorry, it's on a random verb and noun phrasde selector [01:24] robr, open synaptic package manager from system > administration [01:24] ok, thanks il try it. [01:24] and i think it's somewhere in the options [01:24] what is going on with this nick thing [01:24] robr, repositories are the servers type thingies where ubuntu keeps extra software [01:24] Jangari: i'm using ubuntu server from the command line [01:25] Pelo: thx for the info [01:25] LegionaryK, you'Re just getting highlighted when you r nick is used by another user, so you can see it [01:25] oh, alright, there must be a command line repo status thing [01:25] i just don't know what it is [01:25] <[^Twen^]> does anyone know if it's possible with an advanced switch to set a personalized Start Page, so whoever on the network goes into their webbrowser, they will have this specified start page? Is this a normal feature? [01:25] try apropos repositories [01:25] !find php [01:25] robr try a wildcard search There are php4-something in the repos [01:25] Found: cakephp, cakephp-scripts, dh-make-php, egroupware-phpbrain, egroupware-phpsysinfo (and 182 others) [01:25] there you go [01:25] !find php4 === gradin is now known as bobsmit [01:25] Found: php4-interbase [01:26] [^Twen^]: You could set up a transparent proxy perhaps to do that. === bobsmit is now known as gradin_ === gradin_ is now known as gradin3 [01:26] Im having trouble with some javaapps freeze in firefox...sugesstion on how to fix? [01:26] [^Twen^]: my isp dose smthing similer. when i connect a new pc. It sends every web page to their own register the pc - page. for the isp [01:26] robr and make sure you have universe enabled. I think you're looking for libapache2-mod-php4 [01:26] glycerine: example apt-cache search php4* [01:27] * Pelo realy hates it when ppl put a bunch of non-alpha caracters in the start of their nicks [01:27] glycerine: yes i am :) and i can't find apache 1 either [01:27] Ymm You Dont use wildcards/regrexps to apt-cache search do you? [01:27] !find libapache-mod-php4 [01:27] askand, not realy, that's the price of java sucking [01:27] Package/file libapache-mod-php4 does not exist in gutsy [01:27] apt-cache search php [01:27] !find libapache2-mod-php4 [01:27] glycerine, you can search in synaptic for packages [01:27] Package/file libapache2-mod-php4 does not exist in gutsy [01:27] !find libapache2-mod [01:27] odd though, java works fine on one ubuntu machine, and not at all on two others [01:27] Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 47 others) [01:28] Pelo: [^Twen^] Will figure out he needs to change his nick when he gets ignored [01:28] !find winamp [01:28] Package/file winamp does not exist in gutsy [01:28] robr there you go, that's the syntax [01:28] glycerine, please stop it wit the bot abuse, you can do that in pm by using /msg ubotu !trigger [01:28] <[^Twen^]> Jack_Sparrow: lol =) === gradin3 is now known as gradin [01:28] Okay, Firefox is acting weird again. When I press Ctrl+T it sometimes creates around 80+ tabs instead of just one. What causes this? === asdfadsf is now known as PinguX [01:28] I'm trying to set up Samba 3.0.26a on Kubuntu 7.10 so that a Windows box can connect to a share and list it without authentication. I've enabled guest access on the share, but Windows still prompts for a password. Is there a way to configure Samba not to ask for a password? [01:28] sticky keys? [01:28] hey jack [01:28] Pelo for robrs benefit :P [01:28] anyone here familiar with dumeter for windows? [01:29] MrPiracy: try bmpx for a media player. [01:29] <[^Twen^]> Dr_willis: ok, but do you know if it's possible to set it up in the switch web interface? [01:29] i would like to know if there is such a program for gutsy === PinguX is now known as Pinguin0 [01:29] Jack_Sparrow, on such caracter I can deal with but two is just pushing my button s === Pinguin0 is now known as Pinguxer0 [01:29] glycerine, then learn the use of > [01:29] Dr_willis: does it come with a media library and all? [01:29] MrPiracy: xmms is close. but a bit old and out dated in ways. then theres dozens of other media players out [01:29] !info php > glycerine [01:29] Try it and see. I think it does.. been a while since i last used it [01:29] Okay, Firefox is acting weird again. When I press Ctrl+T it sometimes creates around 80+ tabs instead of just one. Does anyone this? [01:30] SQFreak: Security = share [01:30] MrPiracy, they all do , rythmbox, amarok , songbird [01:30] *know that causes this? [01:30] Pelo interesting. Didn't know that option existed. Rather annoying but useful ;) [01:30] Dr_willis: i have xmms here, but it doesnt have a media library and i really need one [01:30] has anybody managed to get a iw3945 wireless card working on gutsy? [01:30] Pelo: or /msg ubotu privately [01:30] glycerine, less annoying for us in the channel [01:30] true ;) [01:30] phoo_, if you mean ipw3945 it's suported out of the box by gutsy [01:31] * Pelo thinks Jack_Sparrow is looking for trouble tonight [01:31] Pelo: I cant beat the kids.. so I come here [01:31] who was suggesting i look into hdparm to try and fix my incredibly slow operating system? [01:31] Jack_Sparrow, I feel your pain [01:31] ketrox, the driver shows up in "restricted managers", but it says "not in use" -- yes it is the ipw3945 === Pinguxer0 is now known as Pinguxer0_ [01:32] Dr_willis: ok, i'll give it a try [01:32] Okay, Firefox is acting weird again. When I press Ctrl+T it sometimes creates around 80+ tabs instead of just one. Does anyone know what causes this? [01:32] sunogbaga: that got anonymous browsing...but now I can't see inside the share. The Windows box (XP Pro SP2) gives me an error about the share not existing. [01:32] Anyone here use a Micro Client Jr. small form factor pc ? [01:32] What program is it at the bottom that is like a quick launch? [01:32] i.e. http://www.norhtec.com/products/mcjr/index.html [01:32] Cereal: What version of Firefox... and if you installed flash and java how did you do it and from what rtepo [01:32] !avn | BB88 [01:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about avn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:32] BB88 awn, gnome-panel, kde-kicker, etc [01:32] phoo_, try to modprobe the module manually sudo modprobe ipw3945 [01:33] !awn | BB88 [01:33] Sorry, I don't know anything about awn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:33] ketrox, oops, not found [01:33] Jack_Sparrow: The newest version I think. I have installed both Flash And Java, can't remember how I did it though :/ [01:33] * Pelo thinks ubotu is being purposefully difficult tonight [01:33] sunogbaga: Here's the error that smbclient \\\\localhost\\sharename spits out: "Server not using user level security and no password supplied. tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME [01:33] Cereal: And WHERE did you get the latest Firtefox... assuming the beta version..? [01:34] phoo_, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules [01:34] Jack_Sparrow: Came with my Ubuntu install (7.04). Not beta :) [01:34] how do u change the number of virtual desktops? [01:34] Jack_Sparrow, there was an article about FF3 beta on diggs afew days ago [01:34] silverhawk_184, right click , properties [01:34] Cereal: You cant remember how you installed flash and java is the answer we get alot from people that didnt use our repos and used scripts like automatix or envy.. both terrible ideas by the way [01:35] alright, this is getting serious now, my system is slowing to a halt, the screen glitches when i try to move a window around, without compiz on, why is ubuntu running so dramatically slow on the same machine as an xp install that runs really quick?! [01:35] SQFreak: "\\\\\localhost\\sharename" are you sure your smb server is on localhost? [01:35] SQFreak unix and samba accts don't have same password [01:35] silverhawk_184, did you mean desktops or workspaces ? [01:35] programs are timing out before they initialise [01:35] Are any programs needed to run a TV as a monitor? [01:35] workspaces [01:35] Jack_Sparrow: I know. I did (as far as I remember) use the repos. Not sure though :( But. What do I do know? [01:35] what program do i need to run a udf dvd i already have gstream and i would like to just install a program that is in correlation with gstream [01:35] sunogbaga: I'm running that command on the server, so it's gotta be localhost, right? [01:36] SQFreak: my bad [01:36] silverhawk_184, yeah right click the workspace switcher in thebottom pannel [01:36] Cereal: Open Firefox, click on help and about and tell us the version please [01:36] glycerine: yes, but that's not the point. [01:36] i am having problems with awn, anyone could please try to help me? [01:36] Jack_Sparrow: 2.0.0.11. [01:36] Jangari, clean install [01:36] I am back! [01:36] wow, i didnt even notice that, thanks [01:36] thresher, we can se that [01:36] Cereal: Thank you... [01:37] Jack_Sparrow: Thank you to :) [01:37] pelo, honestly? [01:37] Jangari, it will be siimpler then trying to track down the issue [01:37] aw man, [01:37] the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked like a charm, I simply disabled the bad resolutions for my monitor. Now in gutsy it correctly shows the 1280x1024. [01:37] Jangari, put your /home folder on a seperate aprtiton and you will retain all your data and settings [01:37] heres another one: how do u enable numlock by default [01:37] it's gonna completely throw my grub into chaos again [01:37] try turning compiz off... see if it helps [01:38] glycerine: I'd like to allow it to connect with NO password. (It's on a private home network that has WPA-PSK and a range that barely covers the house. Security is not an issue.) === Pinguxer0_ is now known as Pinguin0 [01:38] Jangari, what did you do to grub ? === Pinguin0 is now known as Pinguxer0 [01:38] Jangari, you can make a backup copy of /boot/grub/menu.lst [01:38] hey, super quick question. how do i add another workspace? [01:38] Jack_Sparrow: What do I do now? Reinstall FF? If so, How? [01:38] mm, i suppose [01:38] silverhawk_184: I think you can install the numlockx package [01:38] silverhawk_184: that's always worked for me [01:39] SQFreak enabled guest ok in smb.conf? [01:39] thanks [01:39] SQFreak: have you tried connecting with your windows box? [01:39] i'll leave it for a little while and see if it recovers itself [01:39] a few restarts never hurt anyone [01:39] i just don't wanna reinstall [01:39] wols_: you up? [01:39] glycerine: yes [01:39] Cereal: You might want to post your /etc/apt/sources.list I do need to run off for a little while... LOts of good people here to help you [01:39] Jangari, I get a pain right here everything I have to restart [01:39] how do i probe to find firewire card ? [01:39] sunogbaga: yes. i get an error about the share not existing [01:39] Jack_Sparrow: [01:39] ph|ber: barely [01:39] Jack_Sparrow: Thanks :) [01:39] anyone could tell me who is sabayon-admin? i cant enter user profiles cos it says this account is missing [01:39] ok. i did a re-install. [01:39] !firewire [01:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about firewire - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:39] Cereal: Post to the pastebin.. NOT in the channel please.. see the channel topic for info on the pastebin [01:39] is it a virus or something? [01:40] ng0n: lspci should tell you about the firewire if it exists [01:40] I am attempting to perform apt-get update after installing the medibuntu repo lists and key, but packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/free/binary-i386/ is returning 309: Moved. Non-free bin packagrs does the same hing. The strange this is thqat I can resolve the name just fine through my browser. Dig reveals three IPs being pointed to by that domain and I think that this is confusing wget. Would any of you have any recommendations for remedying this issue? [01:40] my /home is on another disc so.. good to go! except. [01:40] ompaul you around? [01:40] SQFreak: is the share path accurate? [01:40] i did the clean install, ran the updates. [01:40] mikeaz: (08:36:05 PM) Pelo: silverhawk_184, yeah right click the workspace switcher in thebottom pannel [01:40] now. [01:40] nothing runs. [01:40] Jack_Sparrow: Okay, thanks : [01:40] sunogbaga: yes [01:40] :) [01:40] firefox [01:40] Bus error (core dumped) [01:40] sunogbaga: it came off the browser, which now works anonymously :) [01:40] thunderbird [01:40] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [01:40] !find sabayon [01:40] Found: sabayon [01:40] i'd run updates, pelo, except synaptic times out before it starts [01:40] tnx wols [01:40] epiphany [01:40] Bus error (core dumped) [01:40] ph|ber: same drill as always. error messages, pertinent logs, etc [01:40] what logs??? [01:41] Xorg logs for example [01:41] MrPiracy, sabayon is another distro, this is the ubuntu chanel [01:41] Hey Pelo, can you offer a suggestion on running gutsy with ATI 9800? I am afraid to enable the restricted drivers due to my past xorg issues [01:41] sunogbaga and glycerine: here's the relevant section of the smb.conf === Varka_ is now known as Varka [01:41] sunogbaga and glycerine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49643/ [01:41] ph|ber: what program gives the error? [01:41] ok. i see Firewire [01:41] thresher, did you try with the binairies ? [01:41] firefox, thunderbird, epiphany [01:41] SQFreak and you have a guest acct with appropriate privileges? [01:42] !ati | thresher and you can probably find more binaires on the ati weibsite [01:42] oh crap, i think i did a stupid thing [01:42] thresher and you can probably find more binaires on the ati weibsite: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [01:42] !find sabayon [01:42] Found: sabayon [01:42] i mounted a hdd partition to the point /home/~ [01:42] i see firewire in lspci [01:42] that must have wiped all those user config files [01:42] MrPiracy2: sabayon is a gentoo based iinux distro... [01:42] how do i mount the firewire drive. it not in /media [01:42] SQFreak: try sharing a folder inside your home dir [01:42] glycerine: probably not, because I have to add it, I'm sure. Should I just add a "nobody" account? [01:42] hidden files [01:42] MrPiracy2, sabayon is another linux distro if you want help with it I suggest you check their website [01:42] i am having trouble install SVN... via apt-get install svn... it refers to E: [01:42] Processing triggers for libc6 ... [01:42] ldconfig deferred processing now taking place [01:42] SQFreak well i was thinking that the smb default is nobody, hence no permissions, no access [01:42] what does that mean? [01:43] i forget linux.. uggg. [01:43] My Firefox occasionally opens 80+ tabs due too something beyond me. Does anyone know what causes this and how I can fix it? my etc/apt/sources.list : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49644/ [01:43] SQFreak but that's a shot in the dark [01:43] Jangari, no, nothing got wiped, just unmout it [01:43] ng0n: when you attached it the kernel should have issued it it a /devicenode. try "sudo fdisk -l" and see if it shows up [01:43] ok. [01:43] what am i doing wrong [01:43] ph|ber, means you hae to wait [01:43] ph|ber: that you installed a library and the system has to update a few things in the background [01:43] i can't seem to [01:43] SQFreak: nobody ( i guess) does not have access to /backup [01:43] Jangari, did you set it in fstab ? [01:44] no one here knows about sabayon-admin? [01:44] Jangari, the command is sudo umount /mountpoint [01:44] MrPiracy2: grep -i sabayon /etc/passwd [01:44] MrPiracy, since this is a Ubuntu channel..i would say No. [01:44] sunogbaga: perms on /backup are dwxrwxrwx (i.e. 777)...therefore all users should have full access, right? [01:44] MrPiracy2: does the command spit something out? [01:44] Cereal: Like I thought... you used AUTOMATIX.. bad bad bad [01:44] pelo \ i am going to try that thanks! [01:45] Can a GTK+ program run on OS X? [01:45] * catty0320 wants to know how to access another chatroom with xchat [01:45] thresher, best of luck [01:45] sunogbaga: I shared my home directory -- same error. Even if I try to authenticate with my password. [01:45] catty0320: /join #chatroom [01:45] catty0320, /join #chatroomname [01:45] Jack_Sparrow: I know that now :) What do I do about it? [01:45] SQFreak: i guess.. another option would be(if security is not a question) to use force user = your_user and force group = your_group [01:45] Cereal: pray [01:45] hy pelo within the restricted drivers it already shows my ati drivers as IN USE [01:45] catty0320: yu can type /join #chatrrom [01:45] Cereal, repent [01:45] hey guys can nebody help with wireless on 2.6.24 [01:45] Cereal: The easiset solution... Fresh install.... [01:45] pelo, i can't even open a terminal [01:45] *Cereal Prays and Repents* [01:45] kernel...i got the firmware [01:46] thresher, I realy can'T help any further [01:46] jesus, that was silly [01:46] Jack_Sparrow: Of Ubuntu or just FF? [01:46] okay thanks [01:46] Jangari, alt_f2 [01:46] console? [01:46] i am having trouble installing SVN... via apt-get install svn... it refers to E:/ [01:46] Jangari gnome-terminal [01:46] Cereal: Ubuntu.... and the wife is giving me that look... i GOTTA GO,. [01:46] catty0320: you can also right-click and choose WINDOWS / CHANNEL LIST to list all rooms in the network [01:46] Jangari, to run that umount command ? why not [01:46] can i make it just download everything from the internet [01:46] and, finnaly my last: Error: Could not find 'SDL Image Library'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 7.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'sdl_image'. // i installed all of the sld packages that i found [01:46] Does anyone have hands on ATI and Gutsy help for me? [01:46] Cereal: does automatix have any kind of uninstaller? [01:46] Jack_Sparrow: Damn O.o Cya, thanks for the help :P [01:47] How can I find out if I am 3d accelerated or not? [01:47] thresher: ask your real question and state your problems. not meaningless stuff [01:47] Wols: Checking.. [01:47] my own shortcut, alt+1 doesn't work, apps > terminal doesn't work [01:47] thresher: glxinfo [01:47] Shri: what's the problem [01:47] threshold fglrxinfo [01:47] right-clicking and selecting unmount volume doesn't work [01:47] thresher: what videocard exactly do you have? [01:47] thresher, the instructions ubotu gave you should beeasy enough to follow and tell you how to instll the binairie driver, they probabaly start with instructions for the restricted driver but keep reading [01:47] I can't get the wireless to start [01:47] on 2.6.24 [01:47] thresher: try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver [01:47] and i've enshrined that auto mount in my fstab [01:47] sunogbaga: I forced user and group...still no help. I may have to abandon this "share" mode and put up with Windows making me authenticate. [01:47] Shri: chipset [01:47] recovery mode, will that help? [01:47] Jangari, comment it out [01:47] it says I need a patch on b43 website [01:48] 4311 rev 2 [01:48] Wols: Why is Automatix so bad? [01:48] pelo, i actually can't open the fstab anymore, it's like everything is frozen' [01:48] i'ma try a console but [01:48] Cereal, it's not essentialy bad but is is badly coded [01:48] SQFreak, using samba? That 'using samba book' In the repos may have details on what you are trying to do. [01:48] I'm using hardy 64bit [01:48] Automatix is VERY badly coded. :) [01:48] Cereal: cause it likes to break ubuntu's packagemanagement badly and is often a pain to remove [01:48] glycerine if I show mesa vendor for open gl am i good? [01:48] If I want to learn more about the Linux under Ubuntu, should I look for books on Debian Linux? [01:48] Whats the quickest way to restart X? [01:48] Cereal: simply shoddy made software [01:48] everything is workign except that [01:48] Jangari, try booting the recovery mode to do it or boot the live cd and do it from there [01:48] Pelo: Okay, thanks :) I can remove the Repos it added (from inside the program) Should I?? [01:48] SQFreak: your choice.. my smbclient also asks for password but when i try connecting using the gui .. well. it works [01:48] !training [01:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about training - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:48] yeah [01:48] always ways [01:48] jack-desktop: ctrl+alt+backspace [01:48] WOls: Thanks :) [01:49] jack-desktop, ctrl_alt_backspace [01:49] Shri: broadcom [01:49] Dr_willis: Yes. I'm trying to get it so that Windows will not bug me for a password when I try to connect to my share. [01:49] LjL: without logging off, which way? [01:49] yup [01:49] jack-desktop: ctrl+alt+backspace [01:49] Wols: I can remove the Repos it added from inside itself. Should I? [01:49] Fezzler, thers some free books for ubuntu out. [01:49] can you restart X without logging off? [01:49] pastbin lspci and iwconfig [01:49] jack-desktop, it will log you off and restart x at the same time [01:49] glycerine: i did glxinfo, but how do i get to know if it's accelerated or not? [01:49] SQFreak, i would say check that USing Samba Book. Its proberly discussed there. [01:49] Cereal: yes [01:49] pelo: i dont want to log off ;p [01:49] later folks [01:50] MrPiracy2 If it says Mesa anywhere in there, it's not [01:50] Wols: Great :) [01:50] will # work to comment it out? [01:50] jack-desktop, you donT' have a choice [01:50] Jangari, yes [01:50] pelo: k thanks [01:50] it says on the website that I need a patch http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 [01:50] hello there [01:50] glycerine: it says "direct rendering: no (if u wanna know why ..." [01:50] I'm reading Linux Systems Administration, good book but examines more than Debian [01:50] glycerine: not true. what do you think intel and ati use? [01:50] !fedora [01:50] Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems) [01:51] Fezzler, check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training for some good core info. Then work you way up to more detailed books. [01:51] MrPiracy2: what videocard do you have exactly? and what driver do you use? [01:51] !rpm [01:51] RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous) [01:51] wols_ but shouldn't the driver name show up? e.g. fglrx, ati? [01:51] glycerine: like ... GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer ? [01:51] can some one help; Error: Could not find 'SDL Image Library'. Try using the native package manager for Ubuntu 7.10 (apt-get) to install a package with similar name to 'sdl_image'. // i installed all of the sld packages that i found [01:51] lol [01:51] Fezzler, once you learn the core fundamentals of linux. the disrtos are all very similer. [01:51] Wols: Done. Anything else I can do? Would "sudo apt-get remove automatix" remove it? [01:51] wols_: intel onboard 946gz using driver i810 [01:51] I am attempting to perform apt-get update after installing the medibuntu repo lists and key, but packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/free/binary-i386/ is returning 309: Moved. Non-free bin packagrs does the same hing. The strange this is thqat I can resolve the name just fine through my browser. Dig reveals three IPs being pointed to by that domain and I think that this is confusing wget. Would any of you have any recommendations for remedying this issue? [01:51] glycerine: I don't think it does, only the GL provider which would be mesa in case of intel [01:51] Cereal, that may remove the program. but wont undo the damage its done. [01:52] MrPiracy2: then you should use the "i810" or "intel" driver and should enable DRM and DRI [01:52] wols_ hmm learn something new everyday [01:52] Shri: usb?what card [01:52] is the fedora core similar to ubuntu ? [01:52] Dr_willis_: Okay. Is there ANY way I can restore it? [01:52] wols_: i am sure DRI is enabled, lemme check DRM [01:52] is the fedora core similar to ubuntu one ? [01:52] JCDENTON: only insofar as it's a general purpose distro [01:52] JCDENTON, ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel [01:52] Hi, somone whats the bot variable to give me the link on the thing on how to fix grub? [01:52] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49647/ [01:53] MrPiracy2: kernel module(s) [01:53] !yea [01:53] Cereal, no idea. I know better then to use AUtomatix. :) [01:53] mini nic [01:53] Sorry, I don't know anything about yea - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [01:53] does anyone know how to get the BCM94311MCG wireless card to work with ubuntu? [01:53] !grub | Ttech [01:53] Ttech: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [01:53] sunogbaga and glycerine: Got it! KDE's GUI puts in a line "msdfs proxy = no" that screws it up. Take out that line and it works great. [01:53] Dr_willis_: I didn't :/ [01:53] I am running the ATI Radeon 9800 pro [01:53] !selinux [01:53] SELinux is available on Ubuntu, but not officially supported. Ubuntu uses another security framework by default, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor [01:53] Thank you wols_. :) [01:53] thresher: then you will need fglrx [01:53] and showing mesa indirect [01:53] sunogbaga: I bet if you look in your smb.conf file you don't have that line. [01:53] SE linux? [01:53] ook [01:53] Shri: give me a minute [01:53] SQFreak awesome. Make sure you write that down somewhere! [01:53] yea [01:53] wols_: what do u mean kernel module? [01:53] Cereal, there is/was an #automatix channel and thei web site/forums [01:53] SQFreak even better stick it on the forums so it's google searchable :) [01:53] MrPiracy2: kernel module. drm [01:53] wols_: wow, someone DRI disapeared from there ... should i try to put it back? [01:54] aiite no problem [01:54] !kernel [01:54] The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - For more: /msg ubotu stages [01:54] glycerine: I found it on the first result on google for the error message NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME. It's on the Samba forums. [01:54] its not everyday when you get someone asking for the bot. :P rofl [01:54] lol [01:54] SQFreak funny, i read that exact thread and missed it [01:54] MrPiracy2: .../kernel/drivers/char/drm/i810.ko [01:54] Dr_willis_: Thanks :) I now understand that it's bad. But why is it bad? What bad stuff does it perform? [01:54] !msgthebot | JCDENTON [01:54] JCDENTON: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. [01:55] glycerine: Don't think I can make it more searchable than that. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/samba-ntstatusbadnetworkname-340291/ [01:55] SQFreak: great work GUIsss!! that's why i use vim for text editing.. [01:55] wols_: oh no, i have been looking at my xorg.conf and it has been automaticly modified, i810 was replaced by "vesa" [01:55] any ideas why my swap file would stop auto mounting on boot up? If I run gparted I see that its off.. [01:55] sorry dudes [01:55] !repository [01:55] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource [01:55] Cereal: overwriting files you installed with dpkg, installing additional files ubuntu doens't know about and will cause problems on next update, not being able to properly uninstall, etc [01:55] sunogbaga: Yes, and so does my computer science professor. But I didn't want to screw it up so I used a GUI. Apparently that was a bad plan. [01:55] installs all kinds of things in bad ways with littl eerror checking, and with the release of gutsy.. lets just say that automatix really is not needed these days [01:55] whats the channel for the fedora distrib? [01:55] MrPiracy2: poor you. [01:56] Cereal, it never was really needed. [01:56] hmm... im gonna attempt doing something fairly risky [01:56] JCDENTON: #fedora [01:56] ok :) [01:56] Wols: damn :/ So the easiest really would be to reinstall? [01:56] making my own deb package! [01:56] Dr_willis_: I can see that :/ [01:56] Is GParted supposed to scan all devices for over 5 minutes, each time I run it ? [01:56] SQFreak: learning from our mistake.. :P [01:56] wols_: how can i find a xorg.conf model for my card? [01:56] Cereal: you could be lucky and it might work withou a reinstall. or you might now. #ubuntu can't say and to be honest doesn't really care. we don't like or deal with automatix [01:56] hey i cant join the channel ;( [01:57] JCDENTON: which channel? [01:57] the fedora one [01:57] MrPiracy2: I'd google. must be tons of howtos for intel based 3D accel [01:57] !register > JCDENTON (JCDENTON, see the private message from Ubotu) [01:57] wols_: Well okay.. I'll have to figure out what I do then. Thanks a lot for the help everyone :) [01:57] JCDENTON: /join #fedora [01:57] .. just /j #fedora [01:57] wols_: doing that now, thx [01:57] it doenst work lol [01:58] JCDENTON: as LjL said. register with nickserv [01:58] whois JCDENTON [01:58] hey guys. can i install the flash plugin through synaptic? I've 'flashplugin-nonfree' but i don't know how to use/run it. [01:58] wols_, sunogbaga: not if the channel is +r and you're not identified to services [01:58] !rootirc | alza [01:58] alza: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [01:58] !flash > alex__ (alex__, see the private message from Ubotu) [01:58] if you can: jcdenton thenickname might already been taken [01:58] fine [01:58] LjL: the flashissue now over? [01:58] JCDENTON: yah reg first [01:58] ok [01:58] wols_: not that i know of [01:58] ok :) [01:58] LjL: then better tell them about !flashissue ? [01:59] its the same for freebsd [01:59] !flash > wols_ (wols_, see the private message from Ubotu) [01:59] LjL: cause otherwise they just be back :) [01:59] LjL: oh good :) [01:59] test [01:59] do u see me ? [01:59] test [01:59] now do u see me ? [01:59] hum [01:59] ng0n, No we dont.. :P [01:59] wtf [01:59] Not any more at least. [02:00] Shri: hp pavillion laptop [02:00] josspyker: yeah [02:00] hahah [02:00] My laptop is annoying me. Ubuntu 7.04, and every minute it blanks the screen... yet I set my preferences to 11 minutes. What gives? [02:00] there kind of secte or somethin [02:00] what is the command to bring up the gears? [02:00] its a compaq that I got on black Friday [02:00] glxgears thresher [02:00] the spinning gears that test video output? [02:00] thanks [02:00] I watch the acpid logs... nothing. [02:01] What is the command for displaying your fglrx info? [02:01] thresher, fglrxinfo [02:01] testing the firewall. [02:01] thanks [02:01] PMantis dumb question first .. set the prefs for both screensaver and power? [02:01] no ned to kick. [02:01] ng0n: we see you. please stop testing, or use #test [02:01] says you no need. [02:01] glycerine: Yup [02:01] ok. [02:01] sorry. [02:01] ng0n: yes there is a need when you abuse the channel [02:01] Can I simply edit the xorg.conf under DEVICE and put the driver at fglrx instead of ati? [02:01] well incase anyone was wondering answered my own question.. used gparted to make my swap partition bigger which changed my partitions location was /dev/sda7 now its /dev/sda9 so I had to edit fstab ;) [02:01] understood. [02:02] anyone able to get hibernate working? [02:02] thresher: use sudo dpkg-reonfigure xserver-xorg [02:02] glycerine: Screen saver is set for 10 minutes, which I believe is why the power settings only offer to blank the screen as low at 11 minutes. [02:02] Shri: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 and use only b43 and follow the instructions on that site [02:02] !ubuntu [02:02] Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [02:02] ok... [02:02] oh wow this time it shows ati instead of mesa [02:02] I did [02:02] anybody know how to get xinerama working with two different resolutions? i have the resolutions defined in "mode" lines in my xorg.conf but both screens (widescreen lcd and 4:3 crt) are showing 1280x1024 [02:02] with xorg.conf configuration; how can I enable "mirroring" with my dual monitor setup [02:03] mular, I had to increase my swap partition size , if you try a hibernate you should see some error messages in /var/log/syslog [02:03] * Rabiddog announces that bots are now on strike [02:03] when I tried to install ndiswrapper it said alternate bcm43xx [02:03] PMantis had to ask :) I don't anything general to cause that. You searched for specific laptop model for issues? [02:03] so that is why I had a doubt as to which one it was [02:04] bcm43xx is the old one and b43 is the new one... [02:04] !strike [02:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about strike - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:04] Liar [02:04] how can i echo a multiline string with the echo command? [02:04] xLE: echo -e "line 1\nline 2" [02:04] Nice thanks to you fine people it now appears I have 3d accelerationg working [02:04] Shri: use only b43 [02:04] glycerine: No, laptop works great out of the box... gotta be a software setting [02:04] What should I do now? [02:04] How do i know if gutsy is running full prettiness mode? [02:04] ok [02:04] apt-get install svn >>> Reading state information... Done [02:04] E: Couldn't find package svn [02:04] ???????? [02:04] thresher, install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager emerald , log out and back in [02:05] but its saying bcm4311 rev 2 / bcm4312 (needs patches for 2.6.24) [02:05] Edwardxp: the package name is subversion [02:05] PMantis yeah was wondering about config with your specific model [02:05] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:05] nickrud, I tried doing that with my swapfile I get some usb errors it looks like.. then it shuts down.. and just boots like normal.. I try downloading uswsusp- suggested on the forums and that looked like it was gonig to suspend then on boot up it just froze after splash screen [02:05] Anyone know how? === samwize is now known as koopa_troopa [02:06] Anyone use KeePassX? [02:06] Onyx yes [02:06] glycerine: HP Pavilion laptop. if using a live CD... it works as expected [02:06] brb going to see if I get any errors [02:06] it said emerald was nto a target [02:06] mular, I've seen a lot of people with suspend/hibernate problems, I've been lucky since it just worked as long as I didn't use an old fglrx [02:06] glycerine: Do you know of any way to get KeePass "integrated" with FireFox? [02:07] glycerine: I'm looking for it to jump to the login page for whatever site, fill in the login name and password, and hit the submit button for me. [02:07] Anyone know how? [02:07] thresher, system->admin->software sources, make sure universe (actually, the first four sources) are enabled [02:07] Edwardxp: try subversion [02:07] oh yah it worked :) [02:07] <|juan|> can someone help me with my compiz setup? === ^A^kira is now known as ^A^way [02:07] Onyx no it doesn't integrate. It is a standalone app. The autotype feature from windows isn't present in the X version. You can try ctrl+b for username, and ctrl + c for password [02:07] josspyker: let me restart I did that [02:07] !away > ^A^way (^A^way, see the private message from Ubotu) [02:07] <|juan|> everything is working except for that :) [02:08] anyone know how to set my tv/monitor to a widescreen? [02:08] |juan|, what card? [02:08] |juan|: glxinfo | grep direct [02:08] <|juan|> 6600gt [02:08] Onyx alternatively, get the import/export plugin for firefox and export your keepass db. That might work [02:08] Shri: ok [02:08] don't know nvidia , sorry. [02:08] glycerine: Damn. Just migrated all my stuff from RoboForm from Windows (awesome program), but as it stands now KeePassX looks like the best alternative. [02:08] <|juan|> nickrud: here's my issue though... [02:09] PMantis found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-41788.html [02:09] |juan|, did you do the command that X-nor mentioned? [02:09] |juan|: is direct rendering working or not? [02:09] hey nickrud [02:09] thresher, yes [02:09] no errors just some junk about usbdevice [02:09] that command resulted in a emeral is not a directory [02:09] <|juan|> when i goto Preferences >> Appearance and click any form of Visual Effects, it crashes and takes me to login [02:09] <|juan|> it is working [02:09] <|juan|> i have dual monitors [02:09] <|juan|> a std 1280x1024 [02:09] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:10] <|juan|> and a 1440x900 [02:10] Anyone know how? [02:10] thresher, that was a package list, not a command :) sudo aptitude install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager emerald <== that's a command ;p [02:10] <|juan|> both are working fine [02:10] dual monitors is such a pain to get working [02:10] just wondering...as I've only used debian based distros (ubuntu and kubuntu), do most terminal commands work across all distros? i'm talking about the mount commands, umount commands, etc. [02:10] but once it works, its beautiful :) [02:10] hrm now if I pull up gparted it lists my swap as unknown [02:10] anyone know how to install kde? [02:10] pelo, unmounting and restarting has fixed that, it just restored the default configurations, but strangely, two directories, home/data and home/~ are identical [02:10] via terminal? [02:10] <|juan|> Pir8: it was simple [02:10] all i have is x :( [02:10] |juan|, challenging for me to set it up :) [02:10] burt0: kde or kubuntu? [02:10] <|juan|> if i do compiz --replace [02:10] <|juan|> it just resets X and takes me to login [02:11] burt0: try this: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop* [02:11] x-mor, funny story....i am an ubuntu user trying to help a non-buntu user install kde....so not on ubuntu here.... [02:11] <|juan|> i am using proprietary driver from nvidia [02:11] burt0: so what are they on? [02:11] glycerine: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848 is that what you're talking about? [02:11] X-nor, does the kde package work now? didn't work previously, wasn't shifted over from debian dependencies [02:11] X-mor, vector linux....slackware based [02:11] maybe someone can help; i went to appearance preferences and tried to put the setting onto Visual Effects extra, a pop up window is now saying the composite extension is not available and the window wont close [02:11] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:11] Anyone know how? [02:12] nickrud: i'm not sure, and can't test on this - have like 1.4G free [02:12] matt_, vector linux....slackware based [02:12] Onyx yes. Haven't tried to import anything but it might work. Give it a shot and let us know ;) [02:12] thresher, after you install that stuff, you need to log out and back in (hit ctl-alt-backspace while logged out for luck) [02:12] glycerine: Will do -- just wanted to make sure I wasn't looking at some other BS :P [02:12] nickrud the stuff didnt install [02:13] X-nor, I got lots of space, but none for kdey [02:13] it resulted in 'emerald' path not found [02:13] glycerine: Oh, I also ran into this extension called Sxipper -- lots of people like it, but I just found it to be annoying. [02:13] matt_, you there? [02:13] thresher, the aptitude command I gave previously, run that in a terminal and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org [02:13] matt_, having trouble reading because the text is soo small on x :( [02:13] matt_, please help :) [02:14] Hi I deleted the gnome panel on the bottom and then recreated a new one thats bigger (50p) and I have annoying issue that it does not autohide even with the option checked. Anyone know how to fix? [02:14] no luck [02:14] nickrud install xserver-xgl compizconfig-settings-manager emerald [02:14] install: target `emerald' is not a directory [02:14] thresher, if you look up, you'll see I said that was a package list, not a command. What chat client are you using? [02:14] the hardware-enable switch is still indicating off [02:15] X-mor, do you know the generic package? [02:15] X-mor, for kde? [02:15] nickrud yahoo, aol,, msn, irc [02:15] thresher, I mean to talk to me ;p [02:16] Anyone know why autohide is not working with gnome panel. I am not using compiz [02:16] im a total newb [02:16] sorry nickrud [02:16] How can I enable the effects on gutsy, everytime I try it says they can't be enabled? [02:16] I would like to install apache 1.3 and php4 on my gusty machine. I tried apt-get update, apt-cache search php4 and it seems that apache 1.3 has been removed from the repositories? or the default libraries. is it possible to adjust something so i can apt-get install apache 1.3 and php 4 [02:16] thresher, no problem. You're probably using the im client pidgin if you haven't installed anything else. [02:16] shri:pastebin iwconfig [02:16] im using pidgeon [02:16] reya276, does it say why? [02:16] pdigin [02:16] whatever [02:16] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:16] Anyone know how? [02:17] I am attempting to perform apt-get update after installing the medibuntu repo lists and key, but packages.medibuntu.org/dists/gutsy/free/binary-i386/ is returning 309: Moved. Non-free bin packagrs does the same hing. The strange this is thqat I can resolve the name just fine through my browser. Dig reveals three IPs being pointed to by that domain and I think that this is confusing wget. Would any of you have any recommendations for remedying this issue? [02:17] the wlan0 doesn't even show up [02:17] don't know why [02:17] jimmygoon: something about a composite engine [02:17] thresher, install xchat , it works better for irc. For example, if I put your nick in the line I type, it shows up red on your client so you don't miss posts easily [02:17] robr universe repo's enabled? [02:17] hey i need some beginner help setting up a wireless connection please [02:17] reya276, your graphics card probably can't handle it [02:17] yeah this kirc is no mirc [02:17] thresher, theres the command you want to use: sudo aptitude install xchat compizconfig-settings-manager emerald xserver-xorg . [02:17] thresher, I would second what nickrud is saying, pidgin/gaim/purple is crap for irc... xchat/irssi is the only way to go [02:17] no I have a 256mb ATI card which handles Vista very well so ubuntu should be no problem [02:18] deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe [02:18] deb-src http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe [02:18] i have those two lines [02:18] reya276, then you need to figure out how to install the right drivers for it [02:18] Shri: no wifi devices at all [02:18] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49651/ [02:18] robr you got it. [02:18] nope.... [02:18] reya276, if you haven't had to do that manually then its not done :) [02:18] !ati [02:18] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [02:18] idk why it doesn't even show that there is a wlan0 device [02:18] anyone familiar with SVG? should Firefox able to display it with no additional plug-in? [02:18] glycerine: so any ideas for what to do to get apache 1.3 / php 4 [02:19] robr, are you still trying to do this? just use the repositories? [02:19] can someone help me install a wireless network i am a beginner and i can't seem to get my desktop to connect to the internet [02:19] Hmmmmmm, something is calling /etc/acpi/screenblank.sh when I don't want it to!! [02:19] All can anyone help me figure out how come the gnome panel wont autohide. Not running compiz [02:19] iftab doesn't exist [02:19] Shri: no devices at all,try to install windows drivers wirt ndiswrapper [02:19] hello [02:19] boo. i hate shopping for wireless adapters. [02:19] nickrud [02:19] thresher_, hello [02:19] with sorrry [02:19] im on xchat now [02:19] if I try opening it says new file [02:20] robr, oh, apache 1.3 :/ [02:20] robr most of the stuff i'm seeing is for apache2. [02:20] thresher_, so the idea is to always put someones name in the post so they can find it easily [02:20] okay [02:20] hey im running ubuntu 7.10 on a laptop and when im in pidgin it sometimes just randomly kicks me out (this is not an internet connection problem) anyone got any ideas?? [02:20] jimmygoon: yes i got distracted by something else. i have 'deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ gutsy universe' in my sources file so I thought that would mean I was getting it from the repositories [02:20] is there a keyboard shortcut to dot hat quickly [02:20] This is the bug I need fixed:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:20] Anyone know how? [02:20] thresher_, type the first few letters, then press the tab key [02:20] if I install ndiswrapper it comes up with hardware present but at the end there is "(alternate: bcm43xx)" [02:21] etjhnet, if you would put a space between the colon and the URL so we can click on it... we would be more likely to actually look at it [02:21] jimmygoon: yes 1.3 :) otherwise i'd be done by now [02:21] nickrud: nice dude [02:21] thanks for the help [02:21] there is a hardware kill switch [02:21] This is the bug I need fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/66869 [02:21] got your pretty desktop? [02:21] jimmygoon: Can you help me figure out why the bottom gnome panel wont autohide [02:21] alexvd, did you turn the autohide option on? [02:21] robr this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590281 [02:21] nickrud: I have a ncie looking desktop but I cant get the advanced effects working without that erro. [02:22] hey all i need some help getting my desktop to connecto to the internet and it just ain [02:22] 't [02:22] thresher_, did you log out and back in? [02:22] josspyker [02:22] Well when I chose the option it errored [02:22] Jimmygoon: yes I turned on that option in properties. I deleted the original panel. I created a new one [02:22] Shri: yes [02:22] what if I blacklist b43 [02:22] jimbo, youare on chatting here now, this is for another pc? [02:22] and did you set that option on the new panel? [02:22] nickrud: it errored when i chose the option i wanted [02:22] Shri: and then [02:22] yes bulmer this is my laptop [02:22] jimmygoon: yes [02:22] thresher_, you haven't answered my question [02:22] instead of blacklisting bcm43xx [02:23] robr it won't only apache 2 is in the gutsy universe according to packages.ubuntu.com [02:23] nickrud: i wasnt able to get the error to go away by clicking ok [02:23] nickrud: ill be back [02:23] like its in most tutorials [02:23] jimmygoon: I even checked in gconf editor [02:23] alexvd and it simply won't autohide? [02:23] jimbo, elaborate on your network layout, what is connected to what? [02:23] is there anything like trying to get your attention or something? [02:23] then I might not get the alternate driver shit at the end [02:23] glycerine: E: Package apache has no installation candidate. [02:23] jimmygoon: yes. I did modify it [02:23] jimmygoon: well? [02:23] I'm using Kubuntu 7.10, what program would one use to record a video to upload to youtube? [02:23] alexvd, what do you mean modify it? [02:24] Shri: the b43 should be the correct driver,but show me the tut. [02:24] robr yes according to packages.ubuntu.com, apache2 is the only install option from the repos [02:24] i have a linksys router and a wireless card i believe is also linksys [02:24] jimmygoon: I made it larger 50px and I turned off expand. [02:24] hold on [02:24] i can see the network fine [02:24] glycerine: ok, so does that mean i need to download a file and install from source or something? [02:24] hey pidgin randomly kicks me off (this is not an internet connection problem, im running 7.10) anyone got any ideas on how to fix it? [02:24] etjhnet, I don't know. Someone will have to patch nautilus / gnome's removable media handler. it's not something that an IRC user is going to fix. the best thing to do is to file a bug report and report it to the mailing list, I don't have time to go edit the source [02:24] jimbo you need to prefix your responses to me with my nick, or else i will miss..way too many chatters here [02:24] and when i connect to it it appears that i am connected on the panel but i can't seem to get on the internet [02:25] alexvd, 50 :( [02:25] alexvd, lemme see if I can reproduce to see if it is a bug [02:25] nickrud: im back after rebooting [02:25] blumer, when i connect to the internet it appears that i am connected on the panel [02:25] robr that would probably be the easiest option, rather than adding an older repo and dealing with package dep problems [02:25] thresher, reboot wasn't necessary, just a logout [02:26] glycerine: OK thanks for that, I'll give it a go [02:26] jimmygoon: Running 7.10 up to date, Turned of compiz [02:26] alexvd, did you close the panel options dialog? [02:26] nickrud: oops ok [02:26] jimbo you need to prefix your responses to me with my nick, or else i will miss..way too many chatters here [02:26] jimmygoon: yes and I even rebooted [02:26] robr np, sorry i couldn't be of more help [02:26] josspyker: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=649038&highlight=b43 [02:26] glycerine: Turns out that's a pretty useless extension (for what I want) [02:26] alexvd, strange. it works for me :( not that thats what you want to hear [02:26] this seems to be the same problem [02:26] I think [02:26] so is there a reason why when one installs ubuntu, one cannot customize what to include and exclude as part of the install ? [02:26] thresher, first rule of linux, you nearly never have to reboot to effect a change, unlike windows [02:26] bulmer ok what do you want ot know i am a beginner [02:26] Onyx eh was worth a shot ;) [02:26] jimbo, elaborate on your network layout, what is connected to what? [02:27] hey all i need help; im running 7.10 and im in pidgin and it just randomly freezes up and i have to force quit and reboot pidgin, any ideas on how to fix it? [02:27] but I don't know why wlan0 is not showing up [02:27] glycerine: Yeah, I'll be pretty happy if KeePassX can integrate someday [02:27] it is saying use udev [02:27] nickrud: that sounds like a welcome change [02:27] to change the name of the interface [02:27] blumer, i have a linksys router and i belive i also have a linksys card in my desktop [02:27] Onyx it's on their roadmap but i wouldn't hold my breath [02:27] how do I do that [02:27] jimmygoon: strange only thing i can say is that I deleted the original. I am also running dual screen stretched across. [02:27] blumer, neiter is connected right now that is the problem [02:27] Hi Folks [02:27] jimbo pay attention to my nick [02:27] glycerine: Why's that? Not a high priority? [02:27] nickrud, except for when ubuntu goes all screwy on me, won't launch new apps and won't bring up the dialog to let me log out, or if I ctrl+alt+backspace it just goes to a black screen :( [02:28] does anyone know how to connect to PDANet software? [02:28] bulmer, sorry man [02:28] alexvd, oh, I can't test that, but its possible thats what it is... did you google to see if others have had a similar problem? [02:28] jimmygoon, that's one reason I put the nearly in. You must be using one of the proprietary drivers :) [02:28] Shri: did you try this sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter [02:28] nickrud, not for graphics [02:28] jimmygoon: checked but i didnt see anything. Also the autohide works fine on the top panel [02:28] nickrud, unfortunately for wirless :/ [02:28] alexvd, that is weeeeird [02:29] bulmer, can you tell me how permissions work [02:29] * nickrud strokes his broadcom 4311, works great with bcm43xx [02:29] alexvd, sorry, you've exhausted any ideas I've got [02:29] nickrud: just discovered what ctrl backspace does [02:29] Onyx the last version i think is from 04 or 05. But in the interim, i found a hacky way you might like http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202896 [02:29] yeah [02:29] * jimmygoon can't wait to get a new computer [02:29] lol [02:29] jimbo, this is a wireles or ethernet connectivity? [02:29] thresher, I was afreaid someone might do that [02:29] bulmer, wireless [02:29] How do i shortcut key to terminal? [02:29] Onyx i stand correct, the last version was june 06 :) [02:29] jimbo, your laptop wireless can associate but your desktop cant? [02:29] thresher, System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts [02:29] did that to extract the firmware from the broadcom website...that tutorial that you sent me [02:30] remember [02:30] jimmygoon: tell me about it. Also highly annoying. I think its because I deleted the original. i did that when i ran awn but I can run compiz with dual screen because of a memory limitation on my graphics card :( === bthomson is now known as carlos [02:30] nickrud: so nick, now what? I want to try and get those pretty effects going [02:30] Hi. [02:30] that needs that to extract the *.o file [02:30] jimmygoon: thanks [02:30] bulmer, yes the network itself is fine my laptop is not using ubuntu only my desktop [02:30] How do i get the 3d effects? [02:30] alexvd, come to think it though, I have deleted my bar because I was running awn for a while too [02:30] sadaiyappan, do you have a decent pc/graphics card? [02:30] thresher, alt-f2 , type compiz --replace && emerald --replace [02:30] sadaiyappan, and are you on gutsy? [02:30] jimbo, do you have the driver for your wifi loaded? [02:30] hey, i dont remember choosing a root password during installation and now my standard user pass doesnt work with SU in terminal??? Is it some kind of idiot block or? [02:30] sadaiyappan: join #compiz-fusion [02:31] jimmygoon: the only other thing i could think is one of the launchers for applications is hanging it. [02:31] yeah i'm on gutsy and i have x1400 [02:31] !sudo | LegionaryK [02:31] LegionaryK: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information. [02:31] !root > LegionaryK [02:31] nickrud: that's unnecessary (and incorrect), the compiz wrapper will run emerald for you [02:31] !ati | sadaiyappan [02:31] sadaiyappan: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [02:31] alexvd, maybe, I've got firefox,thunderbird and gnome-terminal as launchers though [02:31] crdlb, it does now? great, thanks [02:31] i have basic 3d [02:32] nickrud: and you meant to use &, otherwise emerald never gets run :) [02:32] do you want to see my dmesg [02:32] nickrud: my screen flashed [02:32] i have x1400 and i installed [02:32] it [02:32] Hi. Sometimes, but not always, when I boot, I don't have sound. I'm not even greeted by any welcome sound in gdm. A reboot sometimes fixes the problem, sometimes it takes 2 or 3 to fix it. Any ideas ? [02:32] for the first time though emerald still has to be run manually after install [02:32] it works okay [02:32] jimmygoon: i have all those plus mythtv and pidgin, picassa and xchat [02:32] !enter | sadaiyappan [02:32] sadaiyappan: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [02:32] crdlb, worked great for me, over and over [02:32] glycerine: Ahh, they're not exactly blazing a trail getting out the releases then :P; checking out that link you sent me [02:32] bulmer, i have just installed ubunto and when it first boot up the wireless card showed 3 connections available, i chose my connetion and entered the passkey but it didn't connect [02:32] nickrud: because the compiz wrapper was already running emerald for you [02:32] crdlb, lol, makes sense [02:32] alexvd, and there's no good reason as to why those would stop anthing :/ [02:32] nickrud: && runs the second command after the first command exits successfully [02:32] Onyx keep in mind on that link that greasemonkey isn't exactly the most secure thing out there [02:32] bulmer, then i tried to setup a network by going to the adminstrator, then network then setting it up manually [02:32] Shri: yep,wich kernel do you use [02:33] neutrinomass, when you don'T get sound on startup can you still get sounds from playing audio files and movied ? [02:33] <|chiz|> Does anyone have some insight into this? I'm running Gutsy/Compiz/fglrx without XGL so I assume I'm running AIXGL, fgl_gears doesn't have a window border and its very choppy, this is also the case for my own opengl programs. [02:33] 2.6.24 [02:33] jimbo, go to system -> administration ->network which you just did [02:33] crdlb: so should i rerun the command without it [02:33] /part [02:33] thresher: no, it doesn't hurt [02:33] * jimmygoon should turn off his sounds... his laptop has a broken sound dial so its always on SUPERLOUD [02:33] jimbo, what settings did you put in there? [02:33] just doesn't help either :p [02:33] Pelo: No, no sound at all, everything turned up from alsamixer [02:33] that ubotu bot is impressive ^^ [02:33] crdlb: what if i run it before asking you , is that going to create a problem? [02:34] the tutorial say that my chipset needs a patch for my kernel [02:34] crdlb, I had assumed that compiz was releasing itself, like some other apps do (such as nautilus) [02:34] Shri, why are you using 2.6.24 since the current ubuntu kernel is .22 ? [02:34] how do i make a webcam server? [02:34] nickrud: so now that is done [02:34] LegionaryK, did that get you all fixed up then? [02:34] nickrud: ah yeah beryl-manager did that too [02:34] I upgraded to hardy [02:34] neutrinomass, when this happens , does your sound card show in lspci ? [02:34] bulmer, i put in my essid and then my passcode [02:34] Pelo: Yep [02:34] and upgraded the kernel also to get the sound problem resoloved [02:34] crdlb, but I always expect to learn something every time I come here, thanks [02:34] Shri, then you need to ask for help in #ubuntu+1 [02:34] more or less, solved most of my noob issues ^ [02:35] neutrinomass: You may need to get or fix the acpi [02:35] Shri, you are on hardy now? its like like not even close to really stable.... [02:35] Shri: and the and of the tutorial they say there is a problem rebuilding the drivers for the latest kerneli believe [02:35] <|chiz|> neutrinomass, what sound card do you have? [02:35] thresher, do you have pretty moving windows? [02:35] Is there a way to mount mini DVD-R on ubuntu. At first i tought its my dvd-rom but, i tried it on windows it worked. Any ides? [02:35] |chiz|: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller [02:35] ok...great [02:35] !sound | neutrinomass review the info in this , and check in the forum [02:35] neutrinomass review the info in this , and check in the forum: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [02:35] <|chiz|> neutrinomass, me too [02:35] jimbo, id rather have it start with no encryption before you get that WAP going..easier to test [02:35] <|chiz|> neutrinomass, I fixed that today [02:35] nickrud: hmm i think so [02:35] neutrinomass: what hardware you running it on? [02:35] elantrix: any ideas how to do it ? [02:35] * jimmygoon found out today that some people still have trouble with flash audio [02:35] bulmer, ok [02:35] nickrud: i think on relog in i should be able to see the differenc eon that log in screen [02:36] jimbo, that meant turning off wap on your AP [02:36] thresher, system->prefs->advanced desktop settings, play there [02:36] neutrinomass: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems [02:36] nehow thanks for the help guys [02:36] elantrix: Some sort of laptop, mostly intel all around. Not a model from real manufacturer, it's "made" by a local computer store [02:36] thresher, no, you won't see it in the login screen, only on your desktop [02:36] elantrix: Thanks, I'll check that out [02:36] neutrinomass: I bet you 80-90% chance your ACPI is buggy, [02:37] nickrud: i dont have system . prefs / advanced desktop settings [02:37] Shri: sorry i can't help.maybe switch back to an older kernel [02:37] |chiz|: (sorry for the delay) "That" being what exactly? The same problem ? [02:37] thresher, !compiz-fusion [02:37] you are best off looking for a laptop compatibility list [02:37] !compiz-fusion | thresher [02:37] thresher: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion [02:37] glycerine: Ah, yeah... greasemonkey is a bit scary with its insecurity! [02:37] the fonts of all the gtk apps like firefox and xchat for example are so tiny they are unreadable in fluxbox [02:37] <|chiz|> neutrinomass, I tried a bunch of stuff but I think what worked the most was adding 'options snd-hda-intel model=3stack' to the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base [02:37] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4020311#post4020311 [02:37] thresher, it's system > predfs< appearance > advance ... [02:37] thresher, did you install compizconfig-settings-manager in that command line I gave? [02:37] thresher, ignore that link, that wasn't right [02:38] nickrud, is there a factoid for compizconfig-settings-manager ? [02:38] yes i did [02:38] !csm [02:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about csm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:38] nickrud: yes i did [02:38] !ccsm [02:38] To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion [02:38] ah, ok [02:38] bulmer, ok security is down [02:38] thresher, then in the terminal, type ccsm [02:38] attack! [02:38] jimbo, iwconfig and tell me the result [02:39] nickrud: damn it says not installed [02:39] nick i screwed up i guess [02:39] won't somebody help me? [02:39] thresher, open synaptic , search for compiz install everyting you see iwth compiz in hte nick [02:39] * IndyGunFreak practices reading Invert314's mind [02:39] Invert314, what is the issue [02:39] nickrud: i had to reboot so i never reran that command [02:39] thresher, then sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager xserver-xgl emerald <-- copy and paste that into the terminal [02:39] IndyGunFreak, he wrote above... "the fonts of all the gtk apps like firefox and xchat for example are so tiny they are unreadable in fluxbox" [02:40] in fluxbox the fonts of all the gtk apps like firefox and xchat for example are so tiny they are unreadable [02:40] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4020311#post4020311 [02:40] Invert314, you'll need to ask in a fluxbox channel how to fix that [02:40] Pelo: what is synaptic [02:40] i did [02:40] no response [02:40] bulmer, lo no wireless extensions - eth0 no wireless extensions wlan0 IEEE 802.11b+/G+ Essid "router 1".... do you need all of this [02:40] yet [02:40] I've had trouble with fonts sizes... ugh, openoffice still comes up all the time... the menus fonts are like 96 or something.. the "FILE" part of the "File" menu takes up the whole screen :/ [02:40] thresher, synaptic package manager, menu > sytem> admin > synaptic ... [02:40] Pelo, do you think it would be alright if i poke the channel? [02:41] jimbo, thats enuff i think... so its recognized as wlan0 and associated to router 1 [02:41] Invert314, you need to be patient, not every channel is as busy as this one, also check the fluxbox website for their forum and FAQ page, you are unlikely to get an ansser on this here [02:41] jimbo, now iwconfig wlan0 shows what? [02:41] good idea [02:41] ty Pelo [02:41] Invert314: Have you tried deleting the ~/.fluxbox folder? Then logging in again? [02:41] bulmer, yes i think that is what i set up maunally before [02:41] Invert314, or, if you're patient, a fluxer will gate in [02:41] Odd-rationale, i'll try that [02:42] jimbo, now iwconfig wlan0 shows what? [02:42] nickrud, what do you mean by gate in? [02:42] jimbo does it have an ip address assigned to wlan0 ? [02:42] hwo is support for the g33 and g695 chips? [02:42] Invert314, dont, mind him , nickrud is just beening a 1337 haxorz [02:42] Invert314, a bad pun on fluxers, riding the flux [02:42] jimmygoon: if you are still around i think i can reproduce the bug uncheck the option for expand and then tell me if it still autohides [02:43] * nickrud resents that appelation, he's just an old fart [02:43] alexvd, I did [02:43] bulmer, no ip address assigned [02:43] * Pelo pokes nickrud and notices his bellybutton is still wet [02:43] jimbo1, try dhclient wlan0 [02:43] alexvd, and it did (still autohide) that is [02:43] jimmygoon: wierd wonder why it doesnt work for me [02:44] Within synaptics it has so many available packages ot install, when i choose them others get X'd out [02:44] !ot | Pelo ;) [02:44] Pelo ;): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [02:44] alexvd, like I said, I have nooo idea... doesn't make much sense [02:44] oh, you can do that to Pelo again !! [02:44] * IndyGunFreak laughs as he tries to imagine Pelo being off topic [02:44] lol!!! [02:44] Anyone have any experience with PulseAudio? [02:44] might be dual monitors [02:44] thresher, it happens, you don'T need to pick them all, just try for the stuff that is compiz related that seems basic, compiz, compiz-core, managers and settings stuff [02:45] http://75.6.224.220:8888/ keep refreshing every click :) [02:45] alexvd: what isn't working for you? [02:45] its' pretty cool. [02:45] bulmer, im connected but i don't have the wep encryption [02:45] thresher: compiz and compizconfig-settings-manager will install everything you need for compiz [02:45] Invert314: Is it working now? or no? [02:45] <|chiz|> Does anyone know if there is a way to get opengl apps to run properly while running a compiz/fglrx/aiglx desktop? [02:46] Edwardxp: Now just write a JS script to refresh it automatically every second lol [02:46] jimbo, you are connected without the encryption? you can ping www.yahoo.com? [02:46] Odd-rationale, i will report back in 5 minutes with an answer [02:46] IndyGunFreak: When I unselect expand my autohide doesnt work on gnome panel. Running 7.10 witout compiz [02:46] i don't know java [02:46] :( [02:46] Invert314: ok [02:46] bulmer, yes [02:46] |chiz|: no not yet :( [02:46] Has anyone used PulseAudio yet, especially on 64-bit? [02:47] crdlb: when i try to run within terminal compiz it fails [02:47] can you help me out with something like that"? [02:47] jimbo, thats a good sign...now can you browse with the desktop? [02:47] i am installing the synaptics packagesd [02:47] alexvd: hmm, i'm running dual screens, and it seems to be working fine for me(unchecked expand, and autohide is working) [02:47] <|chiz|> crdld: really it seems strange because glxgears works fine but fglrxgears is all messed up like my own opengl apps [02:47] Shpook, no, you are the first , we rely on you to learn everything you can and troubleshoot us later on [02:47] bulmer, yes [02:47] how do i switch to runlevel 2 (no x server just a terminal) [02:47] hi [02:47] IndyGunFreak: are you running a stretched screen [02:47] Edwardxp, what is your question/problem? [02:47] thresher: did you log out after installing xserver-xgl ? [02:48] yes.. [02:48] I do not recall installing xserver-xgl [02:48] bulmer, i have another problem i dont know if you can answer it [02:48] i have two panels, 1 on each monitor, across the top, but i just auto hid the one on th left, and it worked fine. [02:48] i apt-get webcam-server and i got the webcam up, but i want to stream to my computer the feed [02:48] thresher, you may not have needed ot [02:48] thresher: you are using fglrx right? [02:48] can someone help with installing onto Leopard via VMware? [02:48] i think it's working [02:48] not sure [02:48] crdlb: i do not know [02:48] !runlevel [02:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [02:48] thresher, I've given you the command to install that like 4 times now [02:48] Edwardxp, and you want it to auto refresh or somethign? [02:48] IndyGunFreak: I dont know why i am having this issue. Annoying [02:49] and it was erroring out nickrud, i am not being rude [02:49] Edwardxp, you will have to configure your webcam-server settings... [02:49] spooge, maybe the ppl in #vmware can give you a hand [02:49] alexvd: don't know.. i hate auto-hide, so i probably wouldnt have noticed it if i had the problem [02:49] thresher, what is the error [02:49] thanks! [02:49] Pelo: lol Alright, sounds good. As soon as the Gutsy upgrade is complete. [02:49] bulmer, I have a harddrive that ntsf and when i try to mount it it says that it was hybernated by windows and that i have to shutdown windows properly and to access it but i no longer have windows on my desktop so this is impossible === Wanderer_ is now known as Wanderer [02:49] brb [02:49] bulmer, is there anyway i can force it to mount [02:49] emeral not found [02:49] thresher, thresher, then sudo aptitude install compizconfig-settings-manager xserver-xgl emerald <-- copy and paste that into the terminal <-- that errored out? [02:50] PulseAudio looks and sounds promising...let's see if it holds up. [02:50] Edwardxp, it may be that that particulr software doesn't support that [02:50] thresher, sudo apt-get install emerald , exit synaptic first [02:50] Edwardxp, and java has nothing to do with it [02:50] with the desktop effects how do I make the expo effect(shows all your desktops at once by zooming out) accept single clicks to change desktops instead of double [02:50] !ccsm | scragar [02:50] scragar: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion [02:50] scragar, ask in #compiz [02:50] scragar: you cannot [02:50] i reran nickrud command in terminal it is working now after synaptics install [02:50] scragar, you will have to do that and configure it manually [02:51] why would you want that? [02:51] jimbo, i am not aware of such thing as hibernated hd..try mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 assuming its hdc1 is the ntfs partition [02:51] Pelo: i installed emerald within synaptics so it seems to be working for me now [02:51] scragar, actually, sorry, crdlb is right... I checked ... you can't even make it do it that way [02:51] thresher, congradulations [02:51] scragar: well you can set "Double click time" to an extremely small amount in CCSM [02:51] is there a way i can check how a network printer is being called? [02:51] which would prevent you from ever triggering a double click [02:51] ok, thanks for the trying guys [02:52] IndyGunFreak: So I noticed that when I unselect expand my desktop items shift over to the right into the other screen. Wierd [02:52] jimbo, i missed the mount point... mount -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt [02:52] * Pelo watches half the questions go rigth over his head [02:52] Odd-rationale, didn't work [02:53] * nickrud thinks Pelo is verrry short then ;P [02:53] Invert314: Have you tried reinstalling fluxbox? [02:53] webcam-server -c "Edward is Awesome" -g 640x480; this is really cool [02:53] Odd-rationale, how do i do that? [02:53] http://75.6.224.220:8888/ [02:53] so i logged out and back in, I received a messgae indicating my xgl had changed nickrud pelo crdlb [02:53] * Pelo hopes a hard questions goes right over his head and hits nickrud [02:53] alexvd: i have no logical explanation for that, it works fine for me.. [02:53] Invert314: Synaptic is one way... [02:53] thresher, congrats [02:53] So I still cant tell if i have the pretty windows [02:53] when is Ubuntu 8 coming out? [02:53] Pelo, the scar tissue is so deep I can't feel them anymore [02:53] the official release [02:54] should i now go play with my advanced seettings and kick it up a notch? [02:54] !hardy | sleepster [02:54] sleepster: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu [02:54] sleepster, the numbers are based off of YEAR-MONTH [02:54] thresher, now go in menu > sys > prefs > appearance, and turn on the advance effects [02:54] so 08.04 is April 2008 just like every year :) [02:54] naaaacht :P [02:54] bulmer, i did that and i get the message "The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows propery, so mounting could be done safely." [02:54] Invert314: You can search for fluxbox in synaptic. Then mark for reinstalll [02:54] ooh ooh! another LTS... I forgot! [02:54] Odd-rationale, good idea [02:54] i'll try that now [02:55] speaking of which, how is the artwork going for that [02:55] jimmygoon, it is hidious [02:55] Invert314: I hope that work! I have go now. See ya1 [02:55] jimbo1, i have not done ntfs stuff with linux..so am not able to suggest anything [02:55] IndyGunFreak: I have another question that could be related. At one point I was trying to mess with Xorg settings and I put an option in that specified a memory size. It caused a really wierd situation that when i enabled compiz it then gave me a black bar across the right half of my screen. I cannot figure out how to get rid of that. I would assume to rerun xorg setup but I am not sure. I did edit that out of Xorg but it n [02:55] ever got rid of it. [02:55] thanks Odd-rationale [02:55] later [02:55] Pelo, nooo don't say that :( I'm all excited for that [02:55] pelo: desktop effects could not be enabled [02:56] hi...um...i have a dumb question [02:56] how do i get to the GUI? [02:56] i think ubuntu is rnning on vmware [02:56] thresher, maybe you should ask in #compiz-fusion, they will be able to get all the stuff storted out [02:56] on my mac [02:56] alexvd: not really sure, i've honestly never had a prob w/ Dual screens.., so i couldn't really tell you, reconfiguring would probably work. here's a pic of my desktop w/ the taskbars autohid.. youc an barely see them at the top on each "side".. [02:57] spooge, gui should get loaded on startup [02:57] Pelo, is this official? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=fulldesk%28svg%29_v3_3.jpg [02:57] Invert314: A good place to get help with fluxbox is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371144 RedSquirrel is an expert at fluxbox. [02:57] whenever i check in system monitor, i always find that less than 120MB of my 185.5MB is being used. Why is this and there any way of increasing the amount of real memory being used rather than swap memory? [02:57] oh [02:57] IndyGunFreak: something funky with any new panel I add. I can autohide the top and uncheck expand with no issues. [02:57] ok ty ty Odd-rationale === Ziimp is now known as ziimp_ [02:57] well, then it is broken [02:57] dam [02:57] bye! [02:57] hmm, wierd... http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/IndyGunFreak/autohide.jpg [02:57] bulmer, ok thanks quick question how do i get to the universe app [02:57] jimmygoon: that nice in an ugly way...I don't know what to think [02:57] jimmygoon, I don'T know about official but that is pretty much the last thing I've seen, it is niceish but I don't like it for a default nor for enticing new users [02:57] jimbo1, what is the universe app? [02:58] IndyGunFreak: what is the command for reconfiguring xorg sudo dpgkg reconfigure???? [02:58] jimmygoon, personnaly I think default themes should be light and inviting [02:58] does anyone know how to connect to PDANet software? [02:58] alexvd: pretty sure... [02:58] Pello, Shpook, well, lets just say, its a good thing that I've gotten good at customizing ubuntu to stave away the default look. [02:58] alexvd: hang on i'll look for sure [02:58] Pelo: there's no contrast...that would scare me away... [02:58] Pelo, agreed. the visual appeal really is a big draw [02:58] bulmer, i found, the add remove program thing is what im talking about [02:59] jimmygoon: lol [02:59] alexvd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:59] Shpook, a very good point, I'm not saying they should use the default gnome theme but his does have advantages [02:59] bulmer, thanks again i am going to go unencrypted for now and play : ) [02:59] jimbo1, good luck [02:59] Wow, where would I go to talk about C++ if that channel does't even exist? [02:59] IndyGunFreak: thanks [03:00] zero88, I beleive it does [03:00] zero88, #c++ does exist [03:00] Pelo, well, I'm saying they should :) ... can you tell I'm not a fan of "human" [03:00] Ah! forgot the # part, thanks guys [03:00] I am a pretty efficient Windows user with a plethora of experience within the registry. I have found that Ubuntu perhaps offers some more stability but I am interested to see how 'easy' it really is to setup a dual monitor setup with full effects and 3d on gutsy. [03:00] Pelo, the green really helps things :D https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=mockup%28svg%29_v2_2_shift.jpg [03:00] jimmygoon, I use a lightly modified clearlook with gnome icons [03:01] thresher: I've been using Ubuntu for all of 10 hours. [03:01] Nice Onyx [03:01] Pelo, tango icons... sometimes Gion [03:01] * IndyGunFreak didn't know Ubuntu had a theme other than the OSX them.. ;) [03:01] Do you have 3d running on ati ? onyx [03:01] thresher: Easiest system I've ever set up and use [03:01] thresher: 3D on Nvidia [03:01] for me by far not the easiest [03:01] jimmygoon, I saw this on gnome-look the other day and I thought it was so freindly http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/DelvienGANT?content=72321 [03:01] Pelo, jimmygoon: I use a custom white on black theme, with Crystal Icons [03:01] onyx mostly due to ati i am guessing [03:02] <|juan|> anybody know why X would crash and restart at login when running "compiz --replace" [03:02] onyx thats part of what i am being critical about though [03:02] I was (stupidly) removing some packages today and have somehow deleted my sound device. Is there anyway of getting a list of what packages were recently removed? [03:02] MUST have contrast lol [03:02] thresher: Ahhh, I know that in the past on Linux ATI drivers have been a huge pain. === salmenara is now known as Varanger [03:02] Shpook, I always like the looks of those themes, but find them hard to adjust to for day to day use [03:02] miro keeps crashing when loading. here's output: ( http://pastebin.com/d49025c1a ) can anyone help? [03:02] <|juan|> also, if i do visual effects in appearance, it crashes [03:02] hi [03:02] Shpook, I'm not overly found of crystal , but they have their charm [03:02] Pelo, yeah, I just get annoyed when I pull up my menus and there is an icon that is "wrong"... like mismatched because the icon pack didn't have an icon for it :/ [03:02] Does anyone know if there is any problems between compiz and xv ?? [03:03] this was not bad onyx, the users are great but it has been roughly a half day and I dont really see how this is that much easier...someone will want to whip me.... [03:03] does gutsy support the Atheros L1 ethernet? [03:03] and for that matter, overly compressed JPEGs annoy me as well [03:03] Pelo, jimmygoon: I try to keep it as clean and clear as possible. And simple of course. I used to do the whole Compiz and AWN thing, but it was too much and too unstable. [03:04] Shpook, I like clean as well [03:04] Shpook, same here [03:04] |juan|, you check .xsession-errors? [03:04] thresher: What's your goal? To have a dual monitor setup that runs 3D? [03:04] the closest I get to ... over board is a blended emerald & gtk theme [03:04] jimmygoon, the problem I have with tango is that I dont, care for the blue folders, I like manila [03:04] I'm looking for a text based screen saver, like something that will open a terminal and then run random important looking text across it, is there anything? [03:04] now that fglrx does suspend, I've got compiz running regularly, but very light effects. [03:04] Pelo, yeah [03:05] Robbie_Crash: Cool idea :P [03:05] Pelo, have you tried the gion icon theme? [03:05] nickrud, donT think so , got a link ? [03:05] lovely manila folders [03:05] Like something you'd see in an extremely off base computer movie [03:05] nickrud, :) I love gion [03:05] Onyx thanks [03:05] Hi =) I've got a problem with my External HDD (Lacie) right now it's formatted as NTFS. I want it to be Ext3. But I don't have write access to it on Linux (I do on windows) How do I change the access to it? And How do I format it to Ext3? Thanks :D [03:06] miro keeps crashing when loading. here's output: ( http://pastebin.com/d49025c1a ) can anyone help? [03:06] wols: u there? [03:06] Pelo, http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/1340 [03:06] !ntfs > Cereal [03:06] !ntfs | Cereal [03:06] Cereal: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [03:06] !info gparted | Cereal [03:06] cereal: gparted: GNOME partition editor. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3-2ubuntu6.1 (gutsy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1908 kB [03:06] Cereal: You'll want ntfs-config [03:06] * Pelo doesn't play much with his theme anymore, he just changes the background everynow and agan, things with strong dominant colours, no pictures and no damn green vegetation [03:06] nickrud: what is gion [03:06] jimmygoon, yeah, I changed the tango folders to a light brown (get the manila look) but gion beats it hands down [03:06] Sorry about sending that private first [03:06] Thanks everyone :D [03:06] anyone could help me with intel videocard? [03:07] thresher, it's an icon theme that replaces the folder icons, and some of the other ones as weel [03:07] so whats the chances HP makes a driver for ubuntu that runs my scanner? [03:07] nickrud, I'll give gion a try [03:07] !ntfs [03:07] nickrud: how do i enable it [03:07] this is ideal for me... its clean, bright inviting, simple not over the top... the only problem for "new users" would be the lack of context for minimize/close/etc http://i12.tinypic.com/6xs1c8x.png [03:07] !offtopic [03:07] anyone know if that tiny emblem thing got fixed ? [03:07] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [03:07] nickrud: thats a pretty sweet theme, i like that [03:07] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [03:07] thresher, did you try just plugging your scanner in and seeing what xane comes up with ? [03:08] thresher, download it from the link above, open system->prefs->appearance, and drag the file you downloaded onto the window [03:08] Robbie_Crash, we are not offtopic [03:08] * jimmygoon smirks at my connection to xbins [03:08] onyx yes dual monitor with 3d [03:08] Robbie_Crash: What does it do? I mean !ntfs? Where do I write it? [03:08] How much of a performance hit is a 1333 Front side bus vs. 1066? [03:09] *WB(Real)WB* - * real gives cay the <3_<3 look, and chases [03:09] nickrud: that trash icon on that theme is awesome, i love it. [03:09] anyone knows how to set xchat to auto join a given room? [03:09] nickrud, gion is nice but I like my gnome 2.81 [03:09] miro keeps crashing when loading. can anyone help? here's the output: http://pastebin.com/d49025c1a [03:09] Pelo, can I borrow your time machine? [03:09] nickrud: lol [03:09] MrPiracy, open the server windows, select the server, edit , add the channel to the autojoin list [03:10] Pelo I was trying to find out what the ot chan was, cause I accidentally joined ubunut-offtopic and didn't notice [03:10] nickrud, hug ? [03:10] i have a big problem. here is a screen, someone can help me? its realy only a screen http://www.pennergame.de/ref.php?refid=9250149 [03:10] MrPiracy, press ctrl+s, choose your server. click edit... and edit the channels to join [03:10] thresher: I'm assuming you already installed the ATI drivers? [03:10] gah, beat to it [03:10] and there was nobody there so I was asking [03:10] nickrud, sorry gnome 2.18 [03:10] onyx, im up to path on all that so far === svt is now known as TurKs [03:10] Onyx: i am going to plug in my second monitor and see if all goes to hell as it did earlier [03:11] thresher: Let us know... and if it does, let us know what it said as it went to hell :) [03:11] thresher, good luck [03:11] Pelo: comma separated? === mwansa_ is now known as freenzy [03:11] MrPiracy, I beleive so, it should say so in the tool tip [03:11] Pelo: thx [03:12] hmm maybe the radeon 9800 pro is not enough horsepower to handle these effects, opening firefox creates a yellow expansion box and a slow down [03:12] * Pelo just feels the luv [03:12] thresher, could be, how much video memory do you have ? [03:12] 256 [03:12] it may be 128 [03:12] thresher, megs ? [03:12] that should be more then enought [03:12] Suggestion: There should be a subroot directory similar to windows (don't flame me for saying the W word). Imagine: cd /../windows or cd /../usbdrive. [03:12] There are several advantages to that, one way would be that you could measure how much disk space on a certain partition is used up. (It's frustrating trying to figure out how much linux space I have left when my windows partition is mounted under /media/windows [03:13] thresher, did yo ask the lovely ppl in #compiz-fusion to give you a hand on this ? [03:13] whjat is gl desktop [03:13] ader10, what do you mean "subroot" ? [03:13] jimmygoon: there's the "root" directory "/" [03:13] Pelo: i dont really know what to ask [03:13] and ader10 why not do df? [03:13] ader10, menu > ystem> admin > system monitor , last tab [03:14] ader10, just type "df" in the terminal... and then it tells you the breakdown of your partitions [03:14] ader10, you can already see how much space is used per partition. [03:14] haha answer-assault [03:14] if you use df, use df -h for human readable [03:14] You're all missing the point :P [03:14] 181 users and no one is talkin pelo [03:14] what point? [03:14] or Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage Analyzer [03:14] you want to see how much disk space there is [03:14] Okay, So I've installed Gparted (trying to format my External HDD) but the drives on it seems to be locked O.o How do I "unlock" it? [03:14] do df [03:14] thresher, I think you just need to say what card you have and that you are having trouble getting effects to work properly, you can then review your driver situtation with them and the xgl stuff as well [03:14] OR you can go to "Computer" and right click on the Windows drive icon and goto Properties [03:14] Way to shoot down a suggestion in a matter of seconds, I'm just saying one of the few reasons [03:14] or umount /media/windows and then check your disk usage through whatever gui you use [03:14] <|juan|> frkn compiz :( [03:15] thresher, and not all channel are as busy as this one [03:15] <|juan|> the youtube video looked so awesome :( [03:15] or subtract the space used in /media/windows from the total [03:15] Hello; how do I download an application (wifi-radar) and it's dependencies from one computer and put it onto another computer (that doesn't have networking) [03:15] thresher, I what problems did you have with the restrictred driver ? [03:15] Okay, So I've installed Gparted (trying to format my External HDD) but the drives on it seems to be locked O.o How do I "unlock" it? [03:15] ader10, the benefits of mounting drives as directories far outweigh the opposite, heck you can even do it in windows even you dig deep enough (in the mmc) [03:15] |juan|, link to youtube vid? [03:15] !sound [03:15] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [03:15] ader10 how can you get below root? root root? [03:15] |juan|, whats not working? [03:15] miro keeps crashing when loading. can anyone help? here's the output: http://pastebin.com/d49025c1a [03:16] and why would you want to, you'd just see a folder with all your stuff in it, it wouldn't help do what you're saying at all [03:16] important bit @ end [03:16] Cereal, unmount it [03:16] Guys, don't embarrass yourselves. stubborn fanboyism always leaves a bad mark [03:17] <|juan|> jimmygoon: when i goto system >> preferences >> appearance >> visual effects and click any of the options besides 'None' my X restarts [03:17] Pelo: Will I be able to format it then? [03:17] ader10, lol, we gave like 8 reasons why its better... and there are still the SAME ways of checking freespace [03:17] Cereal, you should [03:17] <|juan|> jimmygoon: and dumps me at login [03:17] Cereal, you'll need to create partitons and format those [03:17] jimmygoon: I only saw one reason and I don't remember it. [03:17] |juan|, graphics card? [03:17] ader10 what do you mean by sub root? [03:17] <|juan|> jimmygoon: nvidia geforce 6600gt [03:17] like C: ? [03:17] Pelo: Like unmount. Then mount it again? Right now there are to NTFS partitions on it. How do I delete them? [03:17] Cereal, well basicaly , creating a partiton will ask for a format [03:17] ader10, we're parrotting, true. But parrotting 30+ years of experience. Not fanboyism, I would think [03:18] Pelo: So in Gparted I should unmount both of them or what? [03:18] Funny how instead of asking me why I think that you tell me how to check the free space left in my linux partition. I wasn't asking how to do that. [03:18] ader10, 1: you can still do it, 4 different ways .... one, terminal->"df" two, Applications->Accessories->Disk Usage Analyzer three, gnome-taskmanager rip off thing, four, goto "Computer" right click on the drive and do it just like you would in windows, plus all of the benefits of having drives mounted in folders [03:18] Cereal, got gparted opened ? , select the drive, select the partiton, right ciick unmount, right click delete, [03:18] jimmygoon: See what I just said [03:18] <|juan|> jimmygoon: all the nvidia stuff is installed and i have both monitors setup with independent resolutions [03:18] Pelo: Thanks a lot :D It worked ^ ^ [03:18] ader10: please join #ubuntu-offtopic [03:19] if Ghandi needed an OS... would he choose Ubuntu? [03:19] bazhang: It's not an offtopic subject, it directly relates to linux. [03:19] Cereal, of course it worked, did you thinK I would give you bad advice ? [03:19] |juan|, oh, are you sure that xorg is using hte driver you installed? sorry I've not got much experience with the nitty gritty drive nonsense [03:19] <|juan|> jimmygoon: Restricted Drivers - NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver(latest cards) Enabled In Use [03:19] sleepster, nah, slackware. He was into bare essentials [03:19] |juan|, huh, see, I didn't even know you could get it to report that... where did it spit that out? [03:19] ader10: this is not a chitchat channel--you are not asking for support; ergo, offtopic [03:19] how do i switch to root mode? [03:19] sudo -s? [03:19] |juan|, I would suggest trying to pick through any of the xorg logs. [03:20] sudo -i [03:20] can anyone help me with installing beryl/ i have an intel 915....also broken shift keys [03:20] thanks [03:20] * nickrud has been ot enough for a week, quits [03:20] Pelo: No of course not :) Here :D Have a cookie ^ ^ *hands over a cookie* ^ ^ [03:20] archie1, just prefix your command with sudo [03:20] <|juan|> jimmygoon: system >> administration >> restricted drivers [03:20] koi, i have compiz fusion running fine on an intel 915 what is your issue [03:20] ;D [03:20] nickrud, aww chucks [03:20] well [03:20] anyone here use a kindle or sony reader? [03:20] koi, are you /sure/ you want beryl and not just compiz-fusion? [03:20] Pelo: not if i am installing an entire distro using bash! [03:20] hey all [03:20] how can i check my kernel version? [03:20] when i installed the compiz-settings manager [03:20] Nephlite, uname -a [03:20] the wobbly effect stopped working [03:20] NewPiracy, uname -a [03:20] NewPiracy, uname -a [03:20] NewPiracy, in the terminal uname -r [03:20] what is the name for the 6.06.1 distro? [03:20] and the settings manager didn't do anything [03:20] ha [03:20] uname -r NewPiracy [03:20] Arrick, Dapper [03:21] !dapper | Arrick [03:21] Arrick: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) was the fourth release of Ubuntu. See !lts for more details. [03:21] <|juan|> jimmygoon: where's xorg.log? [03:21] |juan|, dunna [03:21] don't have anything important on linux partition, so i can reinstall if i have to [03:21] whats' gusty, draper' [03:21] thanks, I just needed the name [03:21] later folks [03:21] miro keeps crashing when loading. can anyone help? here's the output: http://pastebin.com/d49025c1a [03:21] want to look at the right packages [03:21] Hello; how do I download an application (wifi-radar) and it's dependencies from one computer and put it onto another computer (that doesn't have networking) [03:21] koi, are other 3d effects working [03:21] Edwardxp, those are different version of ubuntu [03:21] what's the latest? mine is 2.6.22-14-generic [03:21] why [03:21] soo many [03:21] NewPiracy, that is the kernel in gutsy [03:22] only thing that works is minimize effect [03:22] Edwardxp, new version every 6 months [03:22] NewPiracy: you are up to date [03:22] why [03:22] NewPiracy, hardy has 2.6.24-2-generic [03:22] tanath, sorry, I looked and I've never seen it do that :/ [03:22] hmmm, i c ... i guess it has a bug with intel onboard videocards [03:22] is my 7.10 outdated? [03:22] Edwardxp, there's a release every 6 months. the last names have been 'dapper', 'edgy', and now 'gutsy' [03:22] the normal stuff was working before i installed the settings manager [03:22] tanath: you forgot feisty :p [03:22] Edwardxp, feisty in between edgy and gutsy [03:22] jimmygoon, :( i can't get it working anymore [03:22] <|juan|> why would X just crash/restart at the launch of visual effects? [03:22] crdlb, oops, i did :/ [03:22] how do i know which one i have? [03:23] <|juan|> 3d rendering is on [03:23] <|juan|> videos look awesome [03:23] infinitycircuit: hardy? [03:23] tanath, did something in particular, that you noticed, trigger it to not work anymore? [03:23] Edwardxp: lsb_release -a [03:23] NewPiracy, Hardy Heron the development release of ubuntu [03:23] jimmygoon, prolly upgrading to gutsy [03:23] Phil2, take a look at apt-zip , you can get an app and it's dependencies with that [03:23] |juan| compiz(-fusion) is trying to do something and crashes X.org maybe? [03:23] jimmygoon, been a while since i've used it, but i think that's what did it [03:23] i have gusty [03:23] infinitycircuit: oh, i c ... i hope it will add full support for intel cards [03:23] tanath, oh, yeah... [03:23] nickrud: thanks [03:23] |juan|: I have problems with visual effects and xv. I have transparent problems watching videos [03:23] what installing for ubuntu not rpm? [03:23] !screen [03:23] screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen [03:23] NewPiracy, unless you have an intel 965 full support is already in gutsy [03:24] jimmygoon, i tried reinstalling java & python. no go [03:24] tanath, I still don't know what to tell you outside of purging python and miro off your system and reinstalling both ... [03:24] mine is intel 946gz [03:24] tanath, heh, oh [03:24] jimmygoon, didn't purge miro though... [03:24] !deb | Z1gfr0id3 [03:24] Z1gfr0id3: deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click (in Ubuntu) or click (in Kubuntu) on them to start the GDebi utility. [03:24] infinitycircuit: i cant get direct rendering and i believe 3d accel isnt enabled either [03:24] Z1gfr0id3: apt-get it uses .deb [03:24] tanath, well, you shouldn't realy have to [03:24] tanath, but, I would update your repos and see if there is one for gutsy (if you didn't already) [03:24] ;**** [03:24] infinitycircuit: using driver i810 [03:24] jimmygoon, shouldn't be crashing either :P [03:25] !synaptic | Z1gfr0id3 [03:25] Z1gfr0id3: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto [03:25] thankss all repondding.. [03:25] NewPiracy, what if you use the i915 driver [03:25] tanath, just in case there is a difference between the feisty and the gutsy versions... [03:25] tanath: is it miro that's not working? [03:25] jimmygoon, er, it's from the gutsy repo [03:25] tanath, or not... ha [03:25] jimmygoon, it was installed originally as democracyplayer :P [03:25] Shpook, yep [03:25] tanath, hm, I dunna then... [03:25] infinitycircuit: hmmm, just switch driver name at xorg.conf? [03:25] NewPiracy, use the generic name "intel" in xorg.conf and it should use i915 [03:25] hey where's the cream filling [03:25] ok, whats the package name for screen now? [03:26] tanath, see, I've had that installed before, but I manage to reinstall every 3-5 months due to hard drive failure, dropping my laptop, or a new version of ubuntu coming out... :P [03:26] can ubuntu mount NTFS partitions [03:26] yeah when i click to open the compiz settings manager nothing happens and the effects stopped working first time i tried [03:26] infinitycircuit: i tried intel before, didn't work [03:26] Arrick, screen [03:26] tanath: it didn't work for me when I recently installed from the repos. I had to download from www.getmiro.com [03:26] jimmygoon, yeh, i don't reinstall, i upgrade [03:26] lol nickrud Merry Christmas to you [03:26] infinitycircuit, intel and i915 are different drivers they do different things [03:26] NewPiracy, ok well i don't know then i only have experience with my 855GM [03:26] tanath: if it helps at all lol [03:26] infinitycircuit: i'm having problems with awn, that's why i would like to enable direct rendering [03:26] Arrick, and to you too, you been gone for a bit [03:26] Shpook, hm... i guess i'll try that, though i prefer to use the repo versions. :/ [03:26] pre config squid download exists? [03:26] jimmygoon, really...i never knew that [03:26] infinitycircuit, thats what I have (i think) [03:27] i have a few questions about the wifi: when im connected wired i have no problems, but during wifi i get cut off from time to time. when i enabled my wifi card i had to go thru the restricted drivers to let the firmware be enabled. is it possible that this is the cause of the unstable-ness of my wifi? and if so, are there any other ways i can enable it? i looked thru the wiki's already and followed everything, and for some reason NOTHIN [03:27] G seems wrong, but that d/c's i get. any thoughts anyone? [03:27] not gone, just not in the channel nickrud [03:27] Morning [03:27] exit [03:27] lo [03:27] jimmygoon, well i know i915 is the kernel driver but i believe xorg uses intel to refer to it [03:27] !info squid | Z1gfr0id3 [03:27] quit [03:27] z1gfr0id3: squid: Internet object cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.14-1ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 627 kB, installed size 1580 kB [03:27] infinitycircuit, yeah, like intel outputs to the vga-out by default (always) and weird little things like that if I remember right.... one time I had been trying to get my laptop to work with another monitor (to no avail) [03:27] jimmygoon, thanks for the info [03:27] anyone know if Ubuntu can mount NTFS partitions [03:28] infinitycircuit, hm, maybe I'm confused. the day I tried to get that working I had installed all kinds of crap and ended up just getting angry [03:28] How do I use apt-zip; the how to for it is unavailable. [03:28] Shpook, jimmygoon, ah they have their own repo for gutsy... [03:28] sleepster, sure can [03:28] Z1gfr0id3: yup sudo apt-get install squid [03:28] tanath, yeah, thats what I was saying :) [03:28] !ntfs | sleepster [03:28] sleepster: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [03:28] sleepster: yes, and u can use the ntfs config tool so you can write too [03:28] infinitycircuit: is there a way to explicitly invoke direct rendering in xorg.conf? [03:28] is hardy going to have ntfs-3g built in? [03:28] robdig thank [03:28] Z1gfr0id3: np [03:29] NewPiracy, add "dri" in the modules section and Option "DRI" "true" in the devices section [03:29] Phil2, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/22/upgrade-install-ubuntu-on-slow-internet/ [03:29] tanath: oh...i didnt know that. [03:29] Goddamn amarok is pretty awesome. [03:29] how can i change charset when in tty [03:29] ah heck. Phil2 that links to the one that's down, a sec [03:30] Hi. [03:30] thanks [03:30] nickrud, ubuntu blag is down ??? :( [03:30] tanath, I'm gonna get going, so hopefully you are on the right track or someone else can help you... [03:30] hi Thug-life [03:30] nickrud: Check your link; that only tells you what apt-zip IS; it doesn't actually tell you how to use it - rather, the tutorial it links you to is unavailable. [03:30] Shpook, apparently i did... it's already there... :/ [03:30] jimmygoon, thx anyway [03:30] Phil2, noticed that, read back :) === Allenwr is now known as Allenwr-at-the-p === Allenwr-at-the-p is now known as Allenwr-plates [03:31] What good games are available for linux? [03:31] nickrud: my bad; lol [03:31] where do I find the sudoers file? [03:31] nickrud, http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/apt-zip [03:31] :D [03:31] tanath: well good, now that I know I'm going to add the repo. Automatic upgrades are nice. :-) [03:31] jimmygoon: no idea how to use it yet =( [03:31] jimmygoon, looking for a howto, the main one is down [03:31] ah [03:31] man apt-zip? [03:31] hi all [03:31] jimmygoon: no entry [03:32] wait; let me check again; hold up [03:32] Shpook, actually, that could be what's causing the prob [03:32] What games are available on Linux? [03:32] !games [03:32] Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php [03:32] wkwkwkw [03:32] hello... [03:32] web.archive.org is down or we could just use that [03:32] There it is [03:32] found it [03:32] jimmygoon: thanks for reminding me about man :D [03:32] Phil2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46282 maybe [03:33] Phil2, sure thing, see ya [03:33] cracke [03:33] crack [03:33] sadaiyappan: http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://linuxgames07.blogspot.com/2007/09/top-21-linux-games-of-2007.html [03:33] Shpook, er, on the other hand, despite the fact that i have the repo in there, when i reinstall miro it pulls it from the gutsy repo [03:34] what file contains the groups? [03:34] tanath: I think I read one time a way to give certain repos priority if multiple repos contain the same package [03:34] Shpook, erm, nvm... i just updated & now it's pulling it from the miro repo... will let you know if it works [03:34] i deleted some user accounts but i think there are conflict with the groups [03:34] tanath: okay, ty [03:35] anyone here have a digiwave 103g card and using it on ubuntu? [03:35] Shpook, you can do that in synaptic easy enough. Ctrl+E on the pkg [03:35] i know this directory exist apache2-default/ and locate apache2-default/ doesn't work.... can't find it [03:35] Shpook, woohoo, it appears to be working :D [03:36] Shpook, the miro repo version [03:36] Edwardxp: slocate -u [03:36] Edwardxp, you mean /var/www/apache2-default ? [03:36] so for compiz-fusion what packages should i have installed [03:36] tanath: ctrl-e is much easier lol. [03:37] tanath: good! repo it is then. :-) [03:37] whats' var stand for? [03:37] edwardxp: variable. JS? [03:37] variable, it's system data that is not static [03:37] oo [03:37] Edwardxp: are you looking into making a javascript script? [03:38] /var/www/apache2-default/index.html', overriding mode 0644? [03:38] Shpook, yep, working fine now. and i find ctrl+e handy. instead of messing with priorities you just 'force version' for whichever package you want, it synaptic/apt handles the rest [03:38] why did i get prompt that.. when i mv the file? [03:39] ttfn [03:39] !llamp [03:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about llamp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [03:39] tanath: goodnight. [03:39] aort of [03:40] !lamp [03:40] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [03:40] sort of [03:40] Shpook, [03:40] Shpook, thanks for those links === markbbb is now known as mar1 [03:40] (the ones that list the games) [03:41] dahitokiri: no problem, there are some very good games for Linux. America's Army is one of the better ones. [03:41] Shpook, i don't really like FPS games [03:41] is it okay to torrent a file to an nfs share? nfs share is openfiler distro with raid 1 array in ext3 [03:41] i'm more of a strategy/rpg kind of person === Allenwr-plates is now known as Allenwr [03:41] dahitokiri: oh. Well, there are many others. Battle for Wesnoth is addictive lol. [03:42] Shpook, hehe, yup. apt-get'ing currently :) [03:42] dahitokiri: it's also possible to play some Windows only games through WINE. [03:42] Shpook, yeah, i use vmware workstation to play some games... the ones that don't need extensive 3d [03:42] i'm using ubuntu right now, however i'm considering debian. I've never used it before, I was just wondering if anyone has any opinion on this. [03:43] I have an eye-candy question: when i try to change my visual effects settings to normal in appearance settings, i get a "the composite extension is not available error" [03:43] ask in #debian or in #ubuntu-offtopic matt_ [03:43] Okay, upgrade is done, goodnight everyone. [03:44] so any comparisons of ubuntu and debian? Does debian perform better/faster? does it have more stuff in the repos? someone break it down for me here! [03:44] Swaninacar: you have ccsm installed? [03:44] matt_: ubuntu is a debian based linux [03:44] matt_: 6 on one hand, half dozen on the other if you ask me... i like the both [03:44] correct me if im wrong anyone [03:44] pvl: i understand that...but just wondering if debian is "better" [03:44] ccsm? i don't know what it is, so probably not [03:44] whats the syntax to install all of these with the same command? apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server [03:45] pvl: no, it is, but there's differences.. ubuntu's repositories will generally be updated more regularly [03:45] matt_ when u say that, it depends on what ur looking for [03:45] IndyGunFreak: alright, but which do you use now? for your main [03:45] pvl: performance mainly. [03:45] matt_: both... Debian Etch on my laptop, Ubuntu Gutsy on my PC [03:45] !ccsm > Swaninacar read the message from the bot === anthony is now known as tonyyarusso [03:45] matt_: if your'e comfortable w/ Ubuntu, Debian will be quite familiar to you, and vice versa. [03:45] matt_, from what i understand, there isnt much differences, although i suppose since ubuntu is more active, that it would have better suited drivers for your computer [03:45] IndyGunFreak: alright...what about the repos for debian...are they any better? Do they update more? [03:46] matt_: no.. [03:46] nope [03:46] off topic go for arch linux [03:46] <{Nathan}> matt_: Basically, Ubuntu is easier. In my ventures, debian is harder to use and install (but is by no means a Gentoo) and Ubuntu is just incredibly simple [03:46] matt_: ubuntu, is basically Debian, with eye candy.. [03:46] IndyGunFreak: pvl so are you all saying i should just stick with my gutsy? [03:46] <{Nathan}> matt_: I'd say the repos are about the same. [03:46] matt_: plus the support is far superior [03:47] {Nathan}: i was thinking that, so therefore i was thinking that perhaps debian has better performance. [03:47] matt_, i am [03:47] bazhang: i'll follow those instuctions and get back [03:47] is there a package for ipcop? [03:47] bazhang: for ubuntu? [03:47] {Nathan}: i don't know, it took a long time for(for example), Pidgin to get into the Debian repos... [03:47] same with the new versionof Gimp [03:47] <{Nathan}> IndyGunFreak: It depends on what version you are running. For Lenny, sure it will take a while. Testing and unstable, not so much [03:47] matt_: indeed; visit the #debian channel and see for yourself [03:47] matt_: do whatever you want, one thing for sure though, go to #debian, they are straight pricks.... #ubuntu is far friendlier [03:47] IndyGunFreak: {Nathan} it also took a while for pidgin to get to ubuntu [03:47] hey what do the green things next to topic names in the forum mean? [03:48] {Nathan}: i run etch === difuwerfg is now known as Ashfire908 [03:48] <{Nathan}> matt_: nah, the perfarmance is still the same... if you run the same things [03:48] bazhang: IndyGunFreak wow...its getting late...i thought i was on the #debian channel. [03:48] matt_: hahaha [03:48] matt_: if you haven't seen the f-word in the last 10-15 sentences, you will always know you're not in #debian [03:49] hey, is the guy who has compiz-fusion running on intel 915 still here/ [03:49] {Nathan}: bazhang IndyGunFreak pvl alright, thank you all, i'll check out the debian channel, where i thought i were already ;) [03:49] you mean in the channels pvl ? they are operators or in chanservs case, chanel guards [03:49] matt_: put your flame suit on, they hate ubuntu users [03:49] rtf >> fdic [03:49] can someone help me get my motorola s9 bluetooth headphones working with gutsy? [03:50] Arrick, well that wouldve been my next question, but i meant specifically in the forums [03:50] http://75.6.224.220/apache2-default/ [03:50] !bluetooth | arooni_ [03:50] heh better than nothing [03:50] arooni_: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [03:51] <{Nathan}> I'm getting a bluetooth headset soon, will it work as a headset for my computer too? I'm have bluetooth, not stupid. [03:51] <{Nathan}> It's made for my phone btw [03:51] is it just me or are the ubuntu forums really laggy right now [03:51] ubuntu??? more like mozambique [03:52] how can i set my login to auto login my user? [03:52] i'm trying to install compiz-fusion and i get the error saying that compiz depends on compiz-decorator [03:52] what repositories/sources do i have to add to get that package/ [03:52] bazhang: just to check, is ccsm supposed to be a replacement for the visual effects settings? if yes, how do i solve the problem of "unavailable composite extension" so i don't run into it again [03:52] whats the modern day version of something like the old webmin? [03:53] since the forums are so slow, can anyone tell me where to disable a wireless interface? [03:53] Swaninacar: that will be the new preferences setting mechanism yes; installing it will solve those issues iirc [03:53] whenever I select my Ubuntu Gutsy from the GRUB menu it goes to a screen saying that it 'cannot mount the selected partition.' I have run fsck on the partition and it found no errors. What can I do? it happened after a power outage shut down the computer unexpectedly. My other Ubuntu system and both Windows still boot correctly. [03:54] Anyone know of any recent Ubuntu (Gutsy) updates that have broken software such as VirtualBox? As of a few days ago, VirtualBox now segfaults on me - I've not installed or really even used the system since it last worked. [03:54] what is the compiz support irc? [03:54] virtualbox? more like seagulls [03:54] Great; so I'm back - I didn't read that apt-zip needs to be installed on two systems for it to work. [03:54] thresher, #compiz-fusion [03:55] i'm on Ubuntu Gutsy. it rocks. but i can't figure out a way to unzip all RAR files in a single folder all at once without having to click on each one. any ideas? [03:55] Unfortunately; - it isn't, and I don't know how to install it on the other system. [03:55] I'm trying to install wifi-radar onto a non-networked computer; someone told me to use apt-zip; to bad it isn't on the other computer. [03:55] Perhaps apt-double-zip? (sarcasm) [03:56] demonspork: Have you tried single user mode yet? [03:56] can someone tell me what this is about? http://pastebin.com/m6e7fab78 [03:56] is there anyway to add ipcop to an existing gutsy install? [03:57] bazhang: i installed it, but none of the effects seem to be working, nor does it take care of the composite extensions error [03:57] Phil2: Any reason it's "non-networked"? [03:57] iptables config hanasakiRemote? [03:57] te_: I need to install wifi-radar. [03:57] Swaninacar: then it is a video card driver issue [03:57] te_: to bad I need to be networked to install it; eh? [03:57] te_, it fails with a "Cannot mount selected partition" whenever I use any boot option. The things I have tried are as follows: fsck, I have checked the uuid, I have attempted to use a boot CD I made for the partition a while back, only to get the same error. [03:58] bazhang: which probably means i'm out of luck? [03:58] enter by see my desktop apple :D http://www.gfc.edu.co/~danroj/red.png [03:58] I have new information: The segfaults seem to affect QT3 apps, including VirtualBox. Thoughts on what could have made that happen all of the sudden? [03:58] and coment [03:58] :D [03:58] te_, the partition mounts normally and had no errors under inspection by fsck [03:58] Swaninacar: dont give up so easily :} what card and what driver, installed from where [03:59] danroj: way to red. [03:59] Hello, Im trying to install and configure freeRadius, but when I setup PEAP I get the error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [03:59] any hints? [03:59] everytime i try to use "unrar *.rar" i keep getting nothing but the unrar usage help message. i tried unrar someFile.rar ./ and that did the same thing. what is this about? [03:59] danroj: and offtopic [03:59] demonspork: Are you sure grub is bootint to the correct partition? [03:59] apocn: networking issue? [04:00] te_, yes [04:00] Q: I want to install the latest version of the mana world (www.themanaworld.org) which is 0.0.24, but the latest on the repositories is 0.0.23. I know how to run ./config make make install but I'm not sure how to take a program installed in that way off my machine. Is there a way I can turn the tar.gz source into a debian package? [04:00] hey guys, I keep getting this "cannot mount external drive error. and appearently I have to force it because it seems to be in generic mode. I don't have windows to do a safely remove. help please [04:00] demonspork: Has menu.lst been changed? (ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst and observe the date). [04:00] so what do you guys think of my site so far? [04:01] bazhang: thanks, haha. radeon X300. when i use the default driver, i get lots of gnome issues, but the extra effects work. when I use the driver that the restricted drivers manager suggests, an ATI driver, no more gnome errors, but effects break [04:01] can anyone tell me how to disable a wlan interface? [04:01] is there list of motherboard with onboard vga that running compiz perfectly ? [04:01] Swaninacar: is that a pretty good card? not really sure about ati :} [04:02] demonspork: do you have only one kernel? [04:02] !unrar [04:02] rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free [04:02] CyberMad: ask in #compiz-fusion please [04:02] I keep getting this "cannot mount external drive error. and appearently I have to force it because it seems to be in generic mode. I don't have windows to do a safely remove. any ideas? [04:02] gerzel: you can, but it takes some work. you can also look at the makefile, if they have an uninstall target that is properly written, doing make uninstall should get rid of it. [04:02] <|chiz|> Ok, so I have everything working quite well gutsy/compiz/aiglx/fglrx but opengl apps don't run very smoothly, they flicker and there is no window border. Any insight? [04:02] Anyone know how to make a .deb package that I can install on another system? [04:03] CyberMad: why not just buy a video card, instead of a motherboard? [04:03] ok, thank you [04:03] can someone help me get my motorola s9 bluetooth headphones working with gutsy? i've read a lot of cos but they're ont helpful [04:03] te_, no it has not been changed since almost 2 weeks before the incident [04:03] the_darkside_986: you trying to join a bunch of smaller rar files into a bigger file of some sort? just clicking on the first file should join it up [04:03] Phil2: is it a program you're compiling? [04:03] bazhang: it's an okay card. it wasn't my choice, i'm resurrecting a crapped out computer [04:03] you chould boot from the CD and chroot to it and then re-install the kernel. (There must be something wrong with the kernel.) [04:03] @bazhang no these are all separate rar files that are not joined together :( [04:03] IndyGunFreak: Yeah; either wifi-radar or apt-zip [04:03] so i was looking for a way to easily extract them all at once via the bash shell [04:04] Hello........I am wondering if I can get an assist in getting my X config straight for 2 monitors using an nvidia card on 7.10? [04:04] i just saved a crapped out computer myself lol [04:04] Phil2: i *think* when you're compiling, if you run make-check, before make install... or maybe before make, it will create a .deb file. === Ashfire is now known as Ashfire908 [04:04] the_darkside_986: oh--you can do it, just want to save time? [04:04] dave_: whats the prob?... [04:04] demonspork: That is, if you are sure that grub is pointing to the partition that contains the kernel it needs to boot. [04:04] Swaninacar: I got it :} [04:04] installed server 7.10 and it works great [04:04] IndyGunFreak: Run me through compiling; I'm a java programmer; not a linux person ;-) [04:04] yezi [04:04] only thing was i fried the network card the other week [04:04] Phil2: if you're not a linux person, then there is no way to "run you through" compiling [04:05] !dualhead [04:05] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [04:05] demonspork: Have you mounted the partition and looked at /boot to see if everything is still there? [04:05] 知道怎么配置amule的ed2k吗 [04:05] @bazhang i figured it out. i had to make a for eachFile in *.rar bash script for-loop [04:05] i ended up putting another mb because the network card was integrated [04:05] and then > do unrar x "$eachFile" done [04:05] te_, yes [04:05] IndyGunFreak: Ok; ok, how can I compile this .tar.gz file; and make it into a .deb package then? [04:05] arooni_: if you dont get an answer here right away you can also post/search the forums and then repeat your question here every so often--likely someone else has that same problem [04:05] Indygunfreak .....the Ubuntu tool configs the monitors with the borders exceeding the screen real estate......however if I disable the 2nd monitor it is fine [04:05] !cn | goodstarting [04:05] goodstarting: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk [04:05] Phil2: like i said, i think itas make-check [04:05] !compile > Phil2 [04:06] Thanks. [04:06] You're sure that vmlinuz and initrd and System.map are still there? [04:06] the_darkside_986: nicely done, thanks for the tip! [04:06] IndyGunFreak, Phil2 checkinstall [04:06] jj [04:06] nickrud: thats it, thank you... coudln't remember [04:06] can somebody pls tell me what is wrong with my apache install http://paste.on.nimp.org [04:06] @bazhang no problem. for some reason the command unrar x *.rar only wanted to extract the first file in a list so i had to make a for-loop [04:06] what are your symptoms [04:06] nickrud: do you run that after make, after ./configure, before/afgter make/install? [04:06] te_, yes they are still there [04:07] IndyGunFreak .....the Ubuntu tool configs the monitors with the borders exceeding the screen real estate......however if I disable the 2nd monitor it is fine [04:07] demonspork: Show us menu.lst via pastebin and then the output of: sudo fdisk -l [04:07] dave_: i really don't understand your question. [04:07] mezoko: what seems to be your problem [04:07] Thorsten11: he's a troll. don't visit that link. [04:08] thanks for the tip :) [04:08] Does anyone know the best channel for television/sound system support? [04:08] halooo [04:08] sorry to spam here but ive been through all the doc (some of which are outdated) and i still got a major prob here [04:08] nalioth: how did you know? [04:09] !freenode [04:09] freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml [04:09] : can't figure out how to disable one of my two wlan interfaces [04:09] Thorsten11: i recognize the link [04:09] indygunfreak, hey man, I have found a problem and its quiet simple to solve, its not about linux but would you help? [04:09] LegionaryK: ifconfig wlan0 down [04:09] 'robdig how do I tell if the uninstall is properly written? [04:09] LegionaryK: sudo ifconfig wlan1 down [04:09] IndyGunFreak, iirc it replaces make install [04:09] nalioth: thanks for the save [04:09] IndyGunFreak to try and clarify........when I have one monitor enabled everything works fine.....if I enable the 2nd monitor, you cannot see the edges of the desktop w/o moving the mouse [04:09] * LegionaryK thanks te_ [04:09] nickrud: ok.. i'vfe never done it. [04:09] Could someone please help me. My wireless card cannot detect my wireless network [04:09] bhazang: i switched to a different ati driver, it seems to work now. thanks for all your help [04:09] IndyGunFreak, I've done it a few times, I avoid compilation these days [04:10] are there keys to grab the screen? i have a virtual screen and id like to pan about it easier [04:10] shm613: sudo iwconfig essid linksys [04:10] shm613: sudo iwconfig eth1 essid linksys [04:10] te_, http://pastebin.com/m5f18c068 is the output of the command [04:10] dave_: oh ok.... i understand now. i've never had that problem... what do you have your resolution set at? [04:10] shm613: like te_ said [04:10] shm613: where eth1 is the nic and linksys is the essid of your wireless router... etc [04:10] FreeFontPath FPE:"usr/share/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1 fixing. [04:10] i can't start fluxbox [04:11] !google me [04:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about google me - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:11] 1280x1024 ironically nvidia's own tool works to fix it....but if you try and install it you break the restricted driver [04:11] !cock [04:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about cock - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:11] too bad [04:11] te_: i get a unknown command "linksys" message [04:11] IndyGunFreak 1280x1024 ironically nvidia's own tool works to fix it....but if you try and install it you break the restricted driver [04:11] dave_: i have nvidia's tol installed just fine. [04:11] is there anyway to auto login on ubuntu? [04:11] gerzel: it should look similar to the install target, except it should be removing files instead of copying/moving them [04:11] xmms is pimping out on my server :) [04:12] robdig: Ok thanks [04:12] lwizardl, system->admin->login window , security tab [04:12] te_, http://pastebin.com/m16d52a5 my menu.lst [04:12] shm613: First give command: iwconfig [with no arguments] and see what it says. [04:12] how did you go about installing your nvidia driver dave_ [04:12] are there keys to grab the screen toards virtual screens? [04:12] IndyGunFreak strange when I try to install nvidia-config it wants to remove the driver [04:12] robdig: On second thought I'll be patient and give them a little while to get a debian or ubuntu package up. Apparently they are pestering someone at Ubuntu to do it. [04:13] gerzel: cool. definitely easier that way :) [04:13] IndyGunFreak I did the enable restricted driver and let it handle the apt-get work [04:13] http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/02/some-gdm-basics-for-ubuntu-and-xubuntu-theming-and-auto-login/ lwizardl [04:13] dave_: ok.. and? [04:14] nickrud, thanks i wanted this box to be a mythtv box and not need me to give out the password incase it gets shut off [04:15] hello [04:15] IndyGunFreak the driver installs fine and enables.............but it doesnt seem to have the nvida tool installed.....going to the "Screens and Graphics" to do it results in virtual desktops or bulletproof X when I try and fenable the 2nd monitor [04:15] !hi > rushmarine [04:15] <|chiz|> lwizardl, you can auto logon [04:15] how r u [04:15] where u from? [04:15] i'm off to play Frets on Fire again. Thanks everyone here for all their help and support. Ubuntu rox! bye bye [04:15] bazhang: thanks for your help, i used a different driver, it all works brilliantly [04:16] <|chiz|> lwizardl, its in System > Logon Window [04:16] dave_: very strange, don't think i've ever had that prob, what video card? [04:16] chiz, yeah i got that already [04:16] swanincar nicework1 [04:16] IndyGunFreak I then go into synapytic to install the tool and it wants to remove the nvidia(newest) driver.......GeForce 6200 [04:17] dave_, it is already installed [04:17] dave_: see, nvidia-settings has always been installed when i enable restricted... [04:17] dave_, it installs with the driver [04:17] dave_: open a terminal and type "gksudo nvidia-settings" [04:17] te_: The first line has ESSID:"HOME" Nickname:"Broadcom 4211" [04:17] ok..............so I just need to go to the terminal ......I didnt see it populate a menu [04:18] dave_: yes, open a terminal, gksudo nvidia-settings [04:18] you can add it to the menu if you like [04:18] demonspork: menu.lst has errors [04:18] am new on this thing can tell me how can i watch the video form the internet [04:18] cuz loooks like need some flash player [04:18] rushmarine: flash? [04:18] anyone use a twinhan dvb card in ubuntu? [04:18] rushmarine: well there's a lot of videos on the internet, what format is it. [04:19] !flashissues [04:19] The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix. [04:19] cuz every time when i wanna see a video i have to download the file [04:19] Hey, When I play Open Arena, like 40 min to an hour into the game open arena exits full screen into a window, all of the colors on the screen change and everything stops working... what is this from??? [04:19] I can't quit anything when it happens [04:19] well dont I feel like the fool.....since Ive been using Linux since Suse 4.0.......but this is the first Ive let the OS install nvidia driver [04:19] te_, the errors are commented out, correct? [04:19] thanks [04:19] te_, are there any errors with the first boot option? [04:19] dave_: lol, no p-rob, th ats why i c9ouldn't understand your problem [04:19] jubilee: ut3? [04:19] dave_: you on about nvidia driver for ubuntu [04:19] dave_, happens to all of us [04:20] dave_: you can make a menu entry for it if you like, i did, just cuz i like to have it handy [04:20] should work fine, unless you want latest [04:20] bazhang, Open Arena, quake 3 engine [04:20] K3ith yes...think I got it worked out tho [04:20] tahnk you pple [04:20] ppl [04:21] IndyGunFreak I always do that, along with one for Nautilus in super user mode [04:21] demonspork: Line 131 "root (hd0,2)" Should be: "root (hd0,5)" (From the partition info on: It appears that /dev/sda4 is the bootable partition on that first drive). [04:21] dave_: yup, its handy [04:21] i do the same [04:21] how can I get flash to work... [04:21] jeff__: download it from adobe, compile it, and it will work fine [04:22] indy gun freak. [04:22] are you in indy? [04:22] no... [04:22] lol [04:22] IndyGunFreak: compile? ;-) [04:22] dave how are you running it in su mode? [04:22] oh okay [04:22] bazhang, it only happens when I'm playing a long time, and also, I can play it on OS X and multiplayer works perfectly, but under Gusty it tells me there are connection problems during the match for about 90% of the game... [04:22] Myrtti: well, maybe *compile* is stretching it... run the installer that you download from adobe. [04:22] Where do programs store their preferences? I moved my podcasts from Rhythmbox and want to update it so it can see the files in their new location. [04:22] jeff__: sorry, bad humor, yes I'm in Indy.... BeechGrove gto be specific(suburb of Indpls) [04:22] demonspork: Change (hd0,2) to (hd0,5) on line 131 and that shoud do the trick. [04:23] guess he didn't care...lol [04:23] advice to people with wifi probs, it not always enough to disable an interface, you might need to physically remove it and reboot the system before the interfaces stop interferring. [04:23] Jack I havent gotten that far yet...........Im loading into my menu "gksudo nvidia-settings -g" [04:23] IndyGunFreak: better :-) newbs are afraid of compiling. [04:23] lol [04:23] yeah, i know.. been there done that [04:23] dave np [04:23] Hello [04:24] hi [04:24] te_: I also have the Frequency is not the same as my router's frequency and Access Point: Invalid [04:24] I'm having problems actually trying to get my NVIDIA card working with ubuntu at ALL [04:25] Darriou1: have you enabled the restricted driver? [04:25] Yep [04:25] ok, so whast wrong? [04:25] I also have an integrated intel card [04:25] te_, that same error is on the next two boot options as well, or is that an error? [04:25] jubilee: google yields nada--you could post in the forums or wait here for an answer [04:26] Darriou1: whats that got to do with anything? [04:26] Well, the problem is that whenever I boot into UBUNTU it goes and just doesn't even boot [04:26] Darriou1: If yui have not disabled your onboard card it could be causing problems [04:26] I have [04:26] That's what is odd to me [04:26] demonspork: The other boot options are wrong as well. [04:26] Darriou1: is this a live CD, or have you installed? [04:27] I can't even get the live cd to work, and when I use a command line to install, when I boot into it, it does the same thing as the live CD [04:27] hmm [04:28] I've got an NVIDIA GeForce 5200 [04:28] Darriou1: i assume by *command line* you mean the text based install?.. Alternate Install CD? [04:28] Yeah [04:28] demonspork: line 137: change (hd0,2 to (hd0,5) [04:28] k [04:28] Darriou1: When you use the command line to install? Are you using the alternate install cd or some wubi vm something or other [04:28] It works with WIndows fine though [04:28] Darriou1: you obviously have some hardware issues other than the nvidia card [04:29] te_, why would this happen if I haven't changed the menu.lst file, how can I fix it without changing the file [04:29] trying so hard to not smoke < ubuntu [04:29] te_, because my other Linux OS and the windows booloader still work [04:29] Well, it works just fine when I switch to my integrated card [04:29] "menu.lst?" more like "shutup.ihateyou" lol? [04:29] ushdfgakk: what do you mean? [04:29] ushdfgakk: behave [04:29] Evening all [04:29] and I used just an option that had come with the actuall cd [04:30] * ushdfgakk dies [04:30] * ushdfgakk bleeds out ebola-style [04:30] look out!??! [04:30] It's not that big of a deal I suppose, but I'd really like to get my dual display up and running [04:30] Darriou1: What option.. there is no text install on the livecd [04:30] Jack_Sparrow: thats what i was just trying to figure out. [04:30] demonspork: line 157: change (hd0,4) to (hd0,6) [04:30] Darriou1: the alternate install, is a completely different download... [04:31] One of my friends gave me a disk that siad something like install with command line or something like that [04:31] Darriou1: Plus, you said you disabled the onboard, but are trying to get it to work... something does not add up [04:31] hi there! I really need some help!!! can anyone tell me, why I cannot use update-grub, after I did chroot? [04:31] is there a way to set the Access Point value to the MAC of the router for a wireless card? [04:31] can you NFS a harddrive partition from a windows machine? [04:31] There is a setting in my bios [04:31] te_, that still changes the file? [04:31] oh, i am talking about the live cd btw [04:31] is anybody german in here?? [04:32] demonspork: I'm just guessing really. Would have to see what's really there in the /boot directories on those partitions, sda4 and sda5 and sdb2 [04:32] that says peripherals and it switches between Intel Integrated and PCI Express slot [04:32] !ge [04:32] ქართული ენაზე დახმარების მიღებისთვის გთხოვთ შემობრძანდით #ubuntu-ge / Kartuli enaze dakhmarebis mighebistvis gtkhovt shemobrdzandit #ubuntu-ge [04:32] !dm [04:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about dm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:32] !de [04:32] demonspork: YOu need to mount those partitions and see if those kernels are there or not. [04:33] haha ge is georigan :) [04:33] te_, they are there because I have booted each one of them and they have all worked [04:33] I think I might do a little bit of research and come back in a while [04:33] !de [04:33] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [04:33] Cause I don't I have everything on this === [1]akhilesh is now known as akhilesh [04:34] Does anyone know how to get the snow plugin for compiz to work? [04:34] dowlings: #compiz-fusion [04:34] thanks [04:35] hey all, is SELinux enabled by default in 6.06.1? [04:35] demonspork: Here's the deal, grub refers to hda or sda as hd0 and hdb or sdb as hd1 and same with partitions. Therefore, /dev/hda1 to grub is (hd0,0) .... sda4=(hd0,5) sda5=(hd0,6) sdb2=(hd1,3) [04:35] I have a LAMP install, and I cant edit permissions for some reason on the /var/www/ files [04:36] te_, you added instead of subtracted on the partitions there [04:36] Arrick: no [04:36] Arrick: why ar eyou messin with 6.06? [04:36] hi [04:36] nickrud: you might be right.... [04:36] IndyGunFreak: lts? [04:36] bazhang what could stop the root user from being able to change permissions? [04:37] IndyGunFreak LTS, and its a server install? [04:37] Arrick: ok... in that instance i guess i could understand. [04:37] Myrtti: i guess i'm used to keeping up with the ubuntu release cycle. [04:37] Arrick: not sure of your question? have you changed permissions somehow? [04:37] nickrud is correct. I was wrong. [04:38] demonspork: I was wrong. [04:38] demonspork: menu.lst is not in error. [04:38] anyone here willing to help a Linux noob with a sound problem so he can stop using WinXP? [04:38] Can anyone suggest the best MAIL POP application that compares to Outlook ? [04:38] demonspork: Not sure what the problem is. Accept that there may be something wrong with the kernel you are trying to boot. [04:38] hunre [04:38] Evolution and Thunderbird... [04:39] how many manpages must a man read before you can call him a man??? [04:39] bazhang i would like to change the permissions to 775 on a bunch of directories and such, but it wont change them, with sudo chmod 775 /blah or with running as root, and running chmod 775 /blah [04:39] ushdfgakk: you have a real question? [04:39] ushdfgakk, one. dpkg [04:39] Does anyone know if a RJ-11 would get a eth label in iwconfig? [04:39] demonspork: You could chroot to that partition /dev/sda4 and try to re-install the kernel... I guess, but other than that I don' know [04:39] i liked nickrud's answer better [04:39] * ushdfgakk awards nickrud ten points [04:39] I just made a mint install of edgy-generic [04:40] offtopic ushdfgakk [04:40] shm613: RJ-11 ? [04:40] !offtopic | ushdfgakk [04:40] shm613: You mean an ethernet port? [04:40] ushdfgakk: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [04:40] Can anyone suggest the best MAIL POP application that compares to Outlook ? [04:40] then I did a distribution upgrade and I can't get the new kernels to boot [04:40] shm613: You mean an ethernet port? (as opposed to a wireless nic? [04:40] thresher, you mentioned them both already [04:40] any ideas? [04:40] * ushdfgakk mutters [04:40] Arrick: wols is the one to ask about that--he should be by later [04:40] Only on IRC [04:40] * ushdfgakk me me [04:40] i like thunderbird with the right extensions i find it better than Outlook [04:40] nickrud: thanks [04:40] ushdfgakk: if you've got nothing else, move along [04:40] te_: the ethernet port is RJ-45 RJ-11 would be the phone line port [04:41] ok how about this [04:41] ushdfgakk: please stop [04:41] why won't my NTFS drive mount on my dual boot [04:41] bio: Seems to happen alot to people that had tried automatix or envy scripts....both bad ideas by the way [04:41] it only mounts in read-only [04:41] !ntfs-3g | ushdfgakk [04:41] ushdfgakk: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [04:41] i installed it [04:41] Jack_Sparrow, I just made a mint install and used the GUI in the panel [04:41] ushdfgakk: what version of ubuntu are you using? [04:41] it's debian actually but [04:41] Does thunderbird handle calendar and does it by chance sync with yahoo? [04:41] hallo [04:41] it shouldn't be a distro-specific problem [04:41] te_: I'm getting three labels from iwconfig lo, eth0, and eth1 [04:41] hi [04:42] bio: Ask in mint.. but their support is almost non-existent [04:42] shm613: A phone line port will not be a network adapter so would not show in ifconfig nor will it show in iwconfig [04:42] ushdfgakk: i don't know, i'm running gutsy, and my NTFS partition mounted automatically [04:42] it handles a calendar with the lightning extension [04:42] Jack_Sparrow, ask in mint? [04:42] well it's a separate drive [04:42] bio: type "/join #linuxmint" w/o quotes [04:42] !mint [04:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about mint - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:42] bio, mint is a pointless version of Ubuntu that uses automatix, but I don't think that's what you mean ;) [04:42] bio: #linuxmint.com not on freenode btw [04:42] I don't use yahoo, but it does have remote calendars, i use mine to look at Google [04:42] shm613: You have a modem? And are trying to use the modem? Is that correct? [04:42] there's a whole 6 users there. [04:43] yeah, I just meant a fresh install [04:43] also how do i configure the complexity of what x-forwarding sends [04:43] te_: no I'm trying to use the wireless card [04:43] slash the compression [04:43] shm613: Do you have more than one wireless nic? [04:43] with the inclusion of the thunderbrowser, it makes a killer rss feed reader [04:43] bazhang: they have a channel on freenode, its just nobody ever talks in there [04:43] in ubuntu, that is [04:43] everything works fine with this kernel, not sure which one it is... third on the list in grub now [04:43] bio, any reason installing edgy instead of gutsy? [04:43] that one's an ubuntu problem [04:43] thunderbrowser haha [04:43] astro76, just the disk that I had [04:43] IndyGunFreak: thanks! [04:43] te_: no I only have one wireless NIC and a wired NIC [04:43] plus, you can circumvent having to pay for pop access with yahoo with the webclient and yahoo extension in thunderbird [04:44] hi guys [04:44] got a doubt [04:44] hi mac_ [04:44] thunderbrowser is good for limited purpose [04:44] hey bio [04:44] bio, you tried to dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty then? [04:44] what is it mac_ [04:44] astro76, that's right [04:44] shameless: Ok, then the ethernet NIC will more than likely be eth0 [04:44] also my debian mini-iso won't even boot on my imac [04:44] shm613: ethernet NIC will more than likely be eth0 [04:45] ushdfgakk: you do realize this is an ubuntu support channel don't you, take your mindless banter to off-topic [04:45] ushdfgakk: they would know in #debian [04:45] shm613: what wireless nic do you have? [04:45] shm613: Is it fully supported? [04:45] i have dell ubuntu system, there is a dellutility folder with dos files, whats that for [04:45] te_: Broadcom 4311 [04:45] my ubuntu cd isn't working properly. when i first used it i loaded into ubuntu fine, now when i load it it comes up with a command line, and reports it cant load "xfer"-something [04:45] bio: Ok.. Fresh Mint Install.... does not equal distribution upgrade... and three kernels listed...sorry, but very tired, good luck with that. [04:45] you call that mindless banter [04:45] shm613: what does iwconfig show for it? wlan0 or eth1 ? [04:45] mac_, you probably should check your dell docs [04:45] i call it talking about problems i'm having with linux [04:45] I want to run audio/video from my old (windows) drive and am not sure that there won't be major issues (based on the warnings from the GL "player" download) Can anyone give me a bit of advice? [04:46] when i ran the cd integrity check it said there was nothing wrong with it [04:46] te_: eth1 [04:46] ushdfgakk: yes, and completely off-topic for this channel. [04:46] ushdfgakk: please stop [04:46] * bio off to play a little tremulous [04:46] hey is there a command to execute a command one level higher then what your on? eg i want to launch a daemon from ssh such that when i close the ssh connection its still running [04:46] there is a windows booklet they gave me for my linux system [04:46] shm613: Ok, is it connecting to your router for you? [04:46] So, I take it that ubuntu ignores /etc/fstab ? [04:46] shm613 or not? === fsanlu_ is now known as fsanlu [04:46] te_: No it is not connecting to my router [04:46] JoshJ, of course not [04:46] anyone? [04:47] tsukasa, you can use screen in your ssh session, or use the disown bash builtin [04:47] astro76: then explain this (details coming) [04:47] shm613: Does your router use some sort of encryption? [04:47] ushdfgakk: this channel isn't Generic Linux help channel [04:47] shm613: wep or ...? [04:47] te_: No just a MAC filter [04:47] its mounted over /media [04:47] ushdfgakk: ask in #linux if they don't ban you after 15min, they'll enjoy your questions [04:47] whats this /media ment for [04:47] shm613: Have you entered the MAC in your router's list of devices? [04:47] how are Ubuntu patches maintained over debian packages? Is there a common process or is it ad-hoc per package? [04:47] te_: and I got the mac address for the wireless NIC and put it in the list [04:47] could somebody tell me how to load this X-Fi audio driver I d/l [04:47] mac_, mounting stuff [04:48] mac_, media is generally used for automounting external devices, like usb sticks or drives [04:48] my ubuntu cd isn't working properly. when i first used it i loaded into ubuntu fine, now when i load it it comes up with a command line, and reports it cant load "xfer"-something. can anyone help? [04:48] i'm gonna build my own #ubuntu [04:48] with blackjack...and hookers! [04:48] in fact [04:48] forget the chatroom [04:48] shm613: Look at the output of iwconfig and see if it is acquiring the essid. [04:48] mac_, /mnt according to the FHS is only for temporary mounting, with no subdirectories.. contrary to how many distros use it [04:48] hi [04:48] te_: It gets the ESSID but not the mac from the router [04:49] ushdfgakk: last warning [04:49] I just repartitioned my system (to make an extra windows partition for games) and I copied my /dev/sda4 to /dev/sda3, and deleted /dev/sda4. /etc/fstab still shows /dev/sda4 as the /home directory, but gnome-system-monitor shows /home as /dev/sda3. I mean, I'm glad I don't have to edit /etc/fstab manually, but why is it doing this? [04:49] te_: under Access Point it says Invalid [04:49] gr8, but i dont see any external devices for this /media/dellutility [04:49] astro76: there you go [04:49] alright alright [04:49] English help wanted. What is the first sentence of the English descriptive text that Synaptics provides for the Ubuntu DEB program package 'seblinux1'? The sentence is probably similar to "This package provides the commonly used libraries which are used for a security optimized Linux." [04:49] its something inside my laptop, i guess [04:49] Thanks [04:49] anyway, i have used the Comprehensive Sound Problem Solutions Guide v0.5e to death over the last 2 months. i am using 7.10. i get the bongos at the startup screen, but i have no sound. i max out everything in my alsa mixer, but still nothing [04:50] shm613: So the correct essid is seen in the output of iwconfig? [04:50] considering i do get the bongos, and the sound worked fine when i used the live cd, i am thinking it must me something simple i am missing [04:50] te_: Yes [04:50] bullgard4: i'd help, but i don't see 'seblinux1'. what version are you on? [04:50] i have already tried reinstalls 6 times [04:50] shm613: sudo dhclient eth1 [04:50] shm613: or just: sudo dhclient [04:50] JoshJ: Ubuntu 7.10 [04:50] i have another folder /media/OS [04:51] so i'm just curios about it [04:51] ah, i see ,i'm still on 7.04 [04:51] i'll probably end up installing 7.10 over my break at some point just to eliminate this weirdness with my filesystem (and let me clean up my partitions a bit0 [04:51] !gnomeradio [04:51] Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomeradio - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [04:51] thats a good idea [04:51] JoshJ: I made a mistake. The name is 'libselinux1'. [04:51] shm613: Did that get you connected? [04:52] Someone help me? [04:52] te_: it returned No DHCPOFFERS received [04:52] anyone running their gnomeradio? do I actually need a /dev/radio or is this thing nutz? [04:52] JoshJ, in ubuntu, fstab uses UUIDs by default, is yours? [04:52] ah [04:52] astro76: yeah, i haven't changed it [04:52] te_: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping [04:52] anybody tell me how to load the X-FI audio driver? [04:52] Henny: aren' there instructions where you downloaded it? [04:53] JoshJ, are you just looking at the comment in fstab which says /dev/sda4, or are you comparing the actual UUID using the blkid command? [04:53] shm613: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking start [04:53] yea not sure though [04:53] Indy new to linux [04:53] astro76: it's still showing the date on fstab as being 2007-07-29 and i repartitioned yesterday [04:53] i'll check the UID's now though [04:53] Henny: no offense, but unless you're new to reading, the instructions on their site would be a good place to start [04:53] JoshJ, well how did you repartition? [04:53] JoshJ: when you change any partiton on a drive all uuid's get reset [04:54] shm613: Did that get you connected? [04:54] JoshJ: For that drive only.. [04:54] i repartitioned by sticking a livedisc in and running gparted [04:54] Quick install [04:54] ============= [04:54] 1) You must have the fully configured source for the Linux kernel and [04:54] ALSA which you [04:54] want to use for this device driver. Partial installed [04:54] kernels (e.g. From distribution makers) may be unusable for this [04:54] action. [04:54] 2) Run one of the following commands as root in the terminal: [04:54] ./installer [04:54] that's what it says [04:54] Henny: are you nuts? [04:54] !paste > Henny [04:54] !paste | Henny [04:54] Henny: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:54] !pastebin | Henny === zombie is now known as ReMrAf [04:54] hehe [04:54] Henny: Use pastebin. [04:55] ah, thanks [04:55] Is there a way to open chm files on ubuntu 7.10? [04:55] the comment is wrong, apparently [04:55] te_: No [04:55] reportingsjr, gnochm [04:55] * IndyGunFreak still can't access pastebin for some reason [04:55] the UUID is the same for the new /dev/sda3 as the old /dev/sda4 was; but the comment in /etc/fstab is still reporting that as /dev/sda4 [04:55] i'll fix that now i guess [04:55] shm613: Show us the output of iwconfig (via pastebin) [04:55] sorry [04:55] don' [04:55] IndyGunFreak: pastebin comes right up for me [04:55] t know anything about paste bin [04:55] hey can anyone help me? after i login in anything but failsafe then it goes to the next screen does load the desktop or anything else and then after a bit logs off user and goes back to the login screen [04:56] te_: eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"Home" Nickname:"Broadcom 4311" [04:56] Mode:Managed Frequency=2.472 GHz Access Point: Invalid [04:56] Bit Rate=1 Mb/s Tx-Power=18 dBm [04:56] RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off [04:56] Link Quality=0/100 Signal level=-256 dBm Noise level=-256 dBm [04:56] * nickrud thinks IndyGunFreak was banned for a reason [04:56] Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 [04:56] im on ubuntu 7.10 [04:56] Jack_Sparrow: i've not been able to access it for 4-5 days.... don't know why [04:56] Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0 [04:56] JoshJ, you've implied you used some tool to do the partitioning which adjusted fstab... I'm not surprised it didn't touch the comments [04:56] shm613: Also, the output of ifconfig (via pastebin) [04:56] nickrud: from pastebin?.. why?.. [04:56] IndyGunFreak, a joke, bad one I guess [04:56] astro76: yeah, it was ubuntu's built-in gparted [04:56] JoshJ, I think only the install process sets those comments [04:56] i've never pasted anything derogatory. [04:56] nickrud: lol, ok [04:56] nickrud how do I change the user:group on a directory and everything in it? [04:56] ? [04:56] Arrick [04:56] Henny: read the channel topic and click on paste .... [04:56] !pastebin | shm613 [04:56] shm613: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [04:56] use man chown [04:56] Henny: well, 1. pastebin is in the channel topic.. 2. its common sense, this room has 1200 people in it, do you really think its wise to paste 15-20 lines of text? [04:56] astro76: i should probably suggest to the gparted/livedisc people to check to see if the comments are the same as they were originally [04:57] anyone know an easy way to save .ram (Real Media) video for offline viewing? [04:57] Arrick, chown -R user:group /path (goes all the way down the sub dirs) [04:57] and if so, update accordingly [04:57] As up eth0? [04:57] Arrick, tyoe man chown a manual will come up [04:57] shm613: Show us the output of ifconfig (via pastebin) [04:57] Arrick, *type [04:57] i've still got a busted swap entry, though... right now i don't even HAVE a swap partition :p [04:57] well if so let me know :) thanks [04:58] JoshJ: Not a big problem long as you have plenty of RAM. [04:58] JoshJ, it could be a useful option... keep in mind it's something that Ubuntu does, the comment thing is not standard, and most distros don't even use UUID yet I believe [04:58] te_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49661/ [04:58] sorry [04:58] thanks for directing me to blkid btw, now i'll be able to set that up myself if i have to. [04:58] JoshJ, no problem [04:58] astro you know anything about my problem? === Ash908 is now known as Ashfire908 [04:58] as theoretically all i would have to do is change the UUID and leave all the other options in the line the same, right? :) [04:59] yes [04:59] ReMrAf, not really [04:59] Can you ping your router? e.g. ping 192.168.1.1 [04:59] know anyone that would ? [04:59] te_: i've got a gig and i rarely cross 300 MB; if for some reason I keep feisty rather than upgrading I'll probably yank two gigs or so from my windows partition and use those for swap. [05:00] Helpp!!!! [05:00] USB not detect [05:00] <_Casey_> if i plug in my mic do i need to install drivers for it or anything? [05:00] _Casey_: that depends on the mic usually [05:00] <_Casey_> its just a usb logitech [05:00] deusr, what is your device? [05:01] deusr: need more info [05:01] <_Casey_> i want to plug it in and use it with the stickam.com service if possible [05:01] anyone here knows the secret to have direct rendering enabled using i810 driver? [05:01] shm613: Can you ping your router? e.g. ping 192.168.1.1 [05:01] i probably need to just do a fresh install to get rid of the cruft i've accumulated anyway... i've got so many virtual discs where I was learning how to use VMWare that I've probably got 10 gigs of *nothing* lying around >_< [05:01] Clock Mp3 USB not detected by ubuntu [05:01] deusr, see the outout of this command: dmesg | tail [05:02] verb3k: bazhang: Clock Mp3 USB not detected by ubuntu [05:02] <_Casey_> but yeah if i just plug it in will it work? [05:02] _Casey_: won't hurt to try :p [05:02] verb3k: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/4653 [05:02] shm613: Do you [still] have an ethernet cable connecting your wired NIC to the router? [05:02] deusr: what is that? what are you trying to do with it? what system, etc [05:02] <_Casey_> ok hold on [05:02] bazhang: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/4653 [05:02] te_: opps how do I stop the ping? [05:03] Anyone on here have an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe (with Wireless networking onboard) motherboard? [05:03] shm613: Ctrl-c [05:03] control c shm613 [05:03] clock mp3 usb not detect by ubuntu [05:03] te_: thanks [05:03] shm613: Can you ping your router? e.g. ping 192.168.1.1 [05:03] <_Casey_> ok it plugged in, do i do an lspci or something to detect it [05:04] hey.. im trying to figure out the model of my hard-drive... there an easy way to do that in ubuntu? [05:04] deusr, hmm, I don't know what the problem, it happened to me with my Flash USB [05:04] te_: no I cant ping my router [05:04] shm613: Do you [still] have an ethernet cable connecting your wired NIC to the router? [05:04] te_: no I cant ping my router [05:04] verb3k: :/ [05:04] <_Casey_> Joshj [05:04] hello. extracting rar archives is extremely slow in ubuntu compared with windows. is there a way to speed it up? [05:04] are there keys to grab my screen for a virtual screen? [05:04] deusr, sorry :( [05:05] <_Casey_> what would the device be listed as under volume preferences [05:05] <_Casey_> its USB [05:05] anyone here using intel's 946gz chipset? [05:05] deusr: whats the problem? [05:05] shm613: Did you do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking start ? [05:05] _Casey_: 'audio input' or something? [05:05] te_: Yes [05:05] IndyGunFreak: Clock Mp3 USB not detected by ubuntu [05:05] <_Casey_> mic boost, capture, digital? [05:05] gnome-alsamixer shows a "mic" and "capture" category [05:06] deusr: thats a piss poor explanation [05:06] IndyGunFreak, he can't get his usb device to work , the error messages of dmesg | tail is here http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/4653 [05:06] te_: I can ping my router with the patch cable plugged in but not when it isnt and trying to ping over wireless [05:06] shm613: Then manually give eth1 an IP address, one that is not in the DHCP pool. e.g. ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.41 [05:06] deusr: what are you trying to do? what is clock mp3 usb? what system, etc? [05:06] I suspect it would be "Mic" under gnome-alsamixer and "capture" is recording the sound that comes out of the computer [05:06] shm613: And then, try to ping the router: ping 192.168.1.1 [05:06] i don't know what volume program you're using :( [05:07] verb3k: that paste isn't working for me. [05:07] shm613: Then manually give eth1 an IP address: sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.41 [05:07] shm613: Unplug the cable [05:07] IndyGunFreak, strange ... [05:07] does ubuntu have a remote access feature where someone can look at my desktop and help me figure out why i can't get sound [05:07] can someone help me please? [05:07] <_Casey_> im looking [05:07] !someone | voice [05:07] voice: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [05:08] jason___: sure, it's called "ssh" [05:08] because i asked it twice before and no one replied [05:08] shm613: Did you do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking start when the cable was unplugged? [05:08] jason___, what type of sound card do you have? [05:08] sorry, i am a noob [05:08] voice: then either have patience, or if a fair amount of time has passed, ask again [05:08] bazhang, I think he's talking about a usb mp3 player or something. He can't get his usb device to work , the error messages of dmesg | tail is here http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/4653 [05:08] i have an ICH5 [05:08] note that giving someone you don't know ssh access to your computer is basically giving them free rein [05:08] help needed: ubuntu crashes after a while when screensaver is on. screen goes black, caps lock key flashes and no keys work. I always need to do a hard reboot but when i restart I have no idea why exactly it happened. any ideas? [05:08] sager laptop [05:08] Is there a way to make a touchpad (on a laptop) less sensitive to extraneous taps? [05:08] when i enter aplay -l that's what it says [05:08] Cpudan80: yeah [05:08] a fair amount of time did pass, im not impatient [05:08] It's a T42 [05:08] IndyGunFreak: My father has ubuntu in the machine and won a clock mp3, that the plugar in ubuntu, it does not mount it. My gentoo mounts and creates an icon on the desktop of the gnome. [05:08] JoshJ: How? [05:08] Cpudan80: you want to turn off "touch to click"? [05:08] or just reduce sensitivity? [05:08] verb3k: I saw that :} but he should give us answers to more pertinent questions, aye? [05:09] <_Casey_> Joshj [05:09] deusr: sorr, i have no idea what would cause that. [05:09] <_Casey_> i see it under device manager [05:09] xenthro: Turn off screensaver [05:09] i get the bongos at start up, but nothing while in the desktop [05:09] JoshJ: Well - I tap the thing with my wrist, and the mouse goes all spastic [05:09] IndyGunFreak: thanks :/ [05:09] is that ok, that i use ubuntu-desktop as server [05:09] I dont want to turn the thing off entirely [05:09] xenthro: Or at least turn off the "blank screen" part. [05:09] Cpudan80: are you talking about clicking or moving it? [05:09] Anyway, my real question is why when i try to boot my ubuntu live cd does it come up "failed to set xfermode" when the first time it worked perfectly? [05:09] hi guys [05:09] te_: Still cant ping router [05:09] te_ its not blank [05:09] deusr: last time: what are trying to do? what system? [05:09] bazhang: y father has ubuntu in the machine and won a clock mp3, that the plugar in ubuntu, it does not mount it. My gentoo mounts and creates an icon on the desktop of the gnome. [05:09] JoshJ: It'll do both somtimes [05:09] i will run virtualbox inside, then each virtual machine i install debian with specific duty [05:10] you can adjust mouse speed rather simply [05:10] shm613: Did you do: sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop and then sudo /etc/init.d/networking start when the cable was unplugged? [05:10] what the use of /media/dellutility folder? [05:10] JoshJ: I'd have to play with the config a little --- where do I go to mess with it? [05:10] voice: sorry, no clue on that one, never heard of that problem [05:10] te_ and it crashed before even without the SS... it would just lock up my screen and keys would not work [05:10] bazhang, I can understand him [05:10] mac_ hi there [05:10] deusr: that does not answer my question what are you trying to do? [05:10] !ubotu ubotu | voice [05:10] voice: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [05:10] te_: yes [05:10] yep Thorstenll [05:10] <_Casey_> Joshj "Usb Audio Interface" ;x [05:10] Cpudan80: if you add the following line to your /etc/xorg.conf (under "section 'InputDevice'") it will turn off the "tap to click" thing. This isn't adjustable through the standard system-preferences thing. Option "MaxTapTime" "0" [05:10] shm613: Did you give it an IP address? [05:10] bazhang, he's trying to get hs device to work man what's up ??? [05:11] hi Thorsten11 [05:11] te_: Yes [05:11] JoshJ: Is there a way to just make it so that the taps are required to be longer? [05:11] shm613: Give command: ifconfig [with no arguments] and see if it has IP 192.168.1.41. [05:11] _Casey_: i've never used a microphone, I'm just trying to offer suggestions. the standard gnome-volume-control shows a "microphone" category, i'd suggest turning that up and seeing what happens [05:11] JoshJ: IE 1 second or so [05:11] shm613: ifconfig eth1 [05:11] can run a compilied program without installing it? [05:12] verb3k: dont know sync music, transfer data files, etc, there is a different method for each fix [05:12] <_Casey_> JoshJ [05:12] Cpudan80: yeah, you just change that length of time [05:12] <_Casey_> thats for the mic port, not usb [05:12] <_Casey_> !microphone [05:12] Sorry, I don't know anything about microphone - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:12] JoshJ: Is that # in seconds? [05:12] Cpudan80: i don't know, i just set it to 0 because i personally dislike tap to click [05:12] shm613: Does the second line of the output of ifconfig eth1 show IP address: "192.168.1.41" ? [05:12] i'd guess it's seconds or milliseconds [05:12] anyone using an intel X3100? [05:12] bazhang: that does not answer my question what are you trying to do? [05:12] Cpudan80, you can add the line Option "SHMConfig" "1" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , then you can run gsynaptics , it gives you some control over the pad [05:12] what the use of /media/dellutility folder? anybody [05:12] I have an ATI 1100 graphics card on my laptop and a Hanns G HW191D...the drivers for the monitor aren't on Ubuntu by default and the screen resolution is HUGE....does anyone know how I can fix this? [05:12] I can't find anything on the internet [05:12] bazhang: Sorry, I am trying to plug-in the clock in ubuntu and he mount the device so that I can copy some songs for him. [05:13] te_: No [05:13] tofaffy well first you need to install your cards restricted drive [05:13] shm613: Did you enter the MAC 00:00:00:1A:73:B2 into your router's list of allowed MACs? [05:13] nickrud: thanks - I'll mess around with it [05:13] deusr: haha--open amarok, then insert the device--then go to devices in amarok and look for the device in the applet at the top of the screen [05:13] tofaffy | !find ATI [05:13] tofaffy, your card isn't supported by the default ubuntu driver, you have to go to system->admin->restricted drivers and enable the fglrx one [05:13] Shadow147, what is the name of the ATI drivers?...I think I have them already installed [05:14] shm613: Then issue command: sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.41 [05:14] Shadow147, I had issues with the fglrx drivers [05:14] It was EXTREMEMLY slow [05:14] I got a bad ntsf problem anyone up for this [05:14] ? [05:14] deusr: this may take a couple of trys and be patient, but it will get mounted--come hell or high water :} [05:14] <_Casey_> hmm [05:14] shm613: And then issue command: ifconfig [with no argument] to confirm that eth1 has IP 192.168.1.41 [05:14] tofaffy hmm I am using the restricted drivers for my card and mine is a Nvidia Card [05:15] Mine is ATI... [05:15] sorry for the language channel [05:15] tofaffy, was that the ones from ubuntu or the one you download from ati [05:15] <_Casey_> how do i view running process and the pid from konsole [05:15] te_: Now it had the ip [05:15] ps -e | grep processname [05:15] Casey: ps aux [05:15] nickrud, xorg-driver-fglrx from ubuntu repos [05:15] or that :p [05:15] hey nickrud can a compiled be launched without installing it? [05:15] shm613: ping 192.168.1.1 [05:16] I have Gutsy installed on a laptop, I have a problem with my ipw2200 card, it reconnects automatically in very short time which makes the connection is unstable, i had the same issue in fiesty, any help? [05:16] Shadow147: sure, cd to the folder and do ./binaryname [05:16] shm613: Are you now able to ping the router? [05:16] tofaffy, hrm, do you have the linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) installed? [05:16] JoshJ thanks so I just do a make? [05:16] Shadow147: you have to chmod it to +x [05:16] yeah [05:16] nickrud: Are you sure it's 1 and not "true" ? [05:16] what the use of /media/dellutility folder? any help [05:16] make, then chmod the binary to +x [05:16] JoshJ ok [05:16] Cpudan80, they're equivalent [05:16] nickrud, how do I search for it? [05:17] <_Casey_> it says firfox is open but i did a forcequit on it [05:17] _Casey_: do killall firefox-bin [05:17] nickrud: oh ok - didn't realize that (that makes sense though) [05:17] jared@jared-laptop:~$ uname -r [05:17] 2.6.22-14-generic [05:17] brb [05:17] tofaffy, aptitude search linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) in the terminal, if it has an i in the first column it's installed [05:17] <_Casey_> oh that worked [05:17] hacked_kernel: this seems to be a bug with your card, look at the search results here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?value=ipw2200&action=fullsearch&context=180 [05:17] hey guys, answer to me pls, what the use of /media/dellutility folder in an dell ubuntu system [05:17] te_: Still doesnt ping [05:17] how can I get a package off the repos onto a computer that isn't connected to the internets? [05:18] there may be something in there that can help you [05:18] is there a way to directly insert text from the command line into a text file? [05:18] Why does HAL_Device_Manager not provide RAM information? Or did I overlook something? [05:18] BubblegumTate, packages.ubuntu.com [05:18] Can anyone help with enemy territory installation ? pubkbuster kicks me because of empty CD-key, what should i do? [05:18] bazhang: You do not understand, when I plug-in the PC, I can enchergar it by the device cat /proc/partition, and the lsusb, but does not appear in the /dev [05:18] <_Casey_> my firefox freezes on stickam.com now [05:18] nickrud, jared@jared-laptop:~$ aptitude search linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) [05:18] i A linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 - Non-free Linux 2.6.22 modules on x86/x86_6 [05:18] shm613: What is the essid of your router? [05:19] te_: Home [05:19] JoshJ: some people were talking about this issue in launchpad, they said that its a problem with the driver [05:19] deusr: this is an mp3 player? a clock? a combo mp3player/clock? allof the above? [05:19] wtf... [05:19] looking for some help [05:19] yes [05:19] Without the use of an editor, if I just want to append the line to the end of the file? [05:19] mac_: i found it [05:19] tofaffy, it's installed then. I don't know why you would have problems with that driver. For some reason it's slow for some people, for most it's fine [05:19] You might be wondering what the two vfat partitions at the front of the disk are: [05:19] /dev/sda1 mounts to /media/DellUtility [05:19] I wont be clearing this partition after all, since magicfab pointed out that it is a Dell hardware diagnostics environment implemented in DOS. I have the tendancy to jump to conclusions when I see anything .EXE [05:19] from : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2764621 [05:19] I just hit something+r (on the keyboard) and it zoomed my screen in... how the hell do I get it back to normal zoom? [05:19] Onyx: what is the issue? [05:19] bazhang: clock mp3+FM+write [05:19] compiz onyx? [05:20] <_Casey_> onyx try f1 i think [05:20] nickrud, I'll try it again...how do I enable it again? [05:20] can anyone help me with a ntfs problem i am having [05:20] nickrud: Works great - ty [05:20] hey Joshj [05:20] tofaffy, system->admin->restricted manager [05:20] !ntfs | jimbo [05:20] jimbo: give details and then we'll see if we can help? [05:20] whats that for [05:20] jimbo: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [05:20] bazhang: nah, I don't think it's compiz... it's like the entire screen is zoomed [05:20] And it clearly adjusts the sensitivity -- I cranked it way down [05:20] so.. what's going on with flash these days? [05:20] JoshJ:whats that for [05:20] <_Casey_> bio [05:20] yes [05:20] <_Casey_> you mean macromedia [05:20] you mean adobe :p [05:21] how to fix empty cd-key problem in et? [05:21] _Casey_, like adobe flash player [05:21] shm613: Then it should work. That's all there is to wireless networking. You set the ESSID and an IP address that is on the same network and if the router will accept the connection, that should do it. [05:21] mac_: it's a review, but he mentions that dell has a DOS diagnostics tool in that partition [05:21] _Casey_, watch google vids [05:21] <_Casey_> flash still doesnt work with webcams for video4linuxv2 grrrrrrrr [05:21] Cpudan80, yw. I used it for a while, then lost it during a reconfig. I ended up training myself :) [05:21] bio flash is still broken [05:21] can anyone help me with a ntfs problem i am having [05:21] nickrud: lol [05:21] bio for linux [05:21] presumably if you go to them with a problem they run those DOS diagnostics [05:21] Shadow147, how do I watch google vids? [05:21] !find flash [05:21] Found: flashrom, flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer (and 6 others) [05:21] jimbo what is your ntfs problem? [05:21] bio: flash is fine if you donwload the tarball from adobe, and install it that way, its the version in the repos thats broken [05:21] flash used to work [05:21] read the review, there's some details on that there [05:22] oh [05:22] in amd64 flash is not working [05:22] is there a way to directly insert text from the command line into a text file? Without the use of an editor, if I just want to append the line to the end of the file? [05:22] samm1: its never worked in amd64 [05:22] shm613: Well, there is the possibility that the router does not respond to ping requests, (has port 113 filtered). [05:22] onyx alt scroll wheel did it for me--if you mean firefox [05:22] !flash64 | bio [05:22] bio: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava [05:22] samm1, You can get a wrapper for it or install a 32-bit version of Firefox [05:22] IndyGunFreak:so what to do? [05:22] nickrud: just posted it.. [05:22] mac_: /media/OS apparently has your install image and some other stuff. [05:22] bio !sudo apt-get install flash-mozplugin [05:22] te_: No because I can ping it when I'm wired [05:22] <_Casey_> why is stickam.com freezing me all of a sudden [05:22] <_Casey_> even on firefox and galeon [05:23] bazhang: Nah, it's the entire desktop environment... [05:23] how do i bond my motorola s9 headphones [05:23] shm613: If that is the case, just go on and place a nameserver or 2 in the /etc/resolv.conf file and see if you can surf the net. [05:23] without the ! [05:23] IndyGunFreak, you got the quick fingers tonight [05:23] to my gutsy [05:23] JoshJ: how does it work and whats the use of it? [05:23] nickrud: lol, [05:23] Shadow147, that one line and I can view vids [05:23] ? [05:23] mac_: ask dell, not me *shrug* [05:23] bio yes [05:23] all i know is what i see on that review [05:23] Onyx: then it must be compiz [05:23] bazhang: Ahhhh, there we go. [05:23] windows key+scroll wheel :P [05:23] Onyx: nice work [05:23] Shadow147, that's not the name though [05:24] bazhang: thanks for the direction :P [05:24] "windows key"? what's that for you, meta? [05:24] JoshJ; they gave a windows booklet when i purchased linux box from them :) [05:24] JoshJ SUPER [05:24] bazhang: That sure was annoying... ;) [05:24] bio@bio-bushi:~$ sudo apt-get install flash [05:24] flashkard flashplugin flashybrid [05:24] flashplayer-mozilla flashplugin-nonfree [05:24] Is there a tool to monitor network traffic for an individual application? [05:24] !bluetooth | arooni________ [05:24] arooni________: For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:24] sorry about the paste [05:24] hi bio [05:24] Onyx: and that is the Super key now :} [05:24] JoshJ: Hmm? [05:24] bio: hi [05:24] mac_, yoyoyo [05:24] stickkam seems to be working fine for me... for those interested [05:24] Onyx: there's no "windows key" in Linux :p [05:24] bazhang: What does that key do for me now? [05:24] bio: i think you want flashplugin-nonfree [05:24] <_Casey_> indy you can access it? [05:25] flashplugin-nonfree... that's what I thought [05:25] _Casey_: yes, its working fine [05:25] i'm watching it now. [05:25] <_Casey_> i go on firefox and galeon and the browsers just freeze [05:25] :-( Is there no way I can make flash work in amd 64 ?? [05:25] give an answer man, whats the usage of /media/OS folder ...it is having the linux image [05:25] shm613: Well, we have covered all there is to cover. If you have the ESSID right and you have an IP address that is accessable as per the router's config. that should get you in contact with the LAN and you should be able to ping the router. (That is prviding that the wireless NIC on the router is alllowed to answer ping requests, and it IS possible that the router is blocking pings from the wired NIC). [05:25] _Casey_: i'm using firefox. [05:25] bazhang: Been about six years since I last used Linux (just installed Ubuntu this morning), and that key didn't do anything for me back in the day. [05:25] mac_: think "recovery partition" [05:25] bio do sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree just to be safe [05:25] !flash64 | samm1 [05:25] Onyx: try super e, super q; if you have the ccsm extensions checked it is the master of key combox [05:25] samm1: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava [05:25] <_Casey_> reinstall firefox or what? [05:25] Smegzor you want to monitor traffic for a particular app? [05:25] samm1: Yeah, on FireFox? [05:25] jebblue: thats the idea [05:25] tried but didn't work [05:25] Casey: maybe, i don't know, what version fo firefox? [05:25] The Flash plugin was NOT installed [05:25] err combos [05:25] JoshJ: hows does it work then if i need to recover? [05:26] gnash is too crappy [05:26] <_Casey_> default that came with this im guessing [05:26] bazhang: super q does nothing, but super e is pretty badass. [05:26] Smegzor good question I've often wanted to do that too [05:26] mac_: ask dell, or perhaps do some shenanigans with grub [05:26] te_: when i do iwlist scan it returns No scan results [05:26] shm613: Look at /etc/resolv.conf and see if you have nameservers listed. [05:26] * IndyGunFreak thinks Ubuntu needs to fix this flash problem, i'm sick of hearing, "Flash not installed" [05:26] bio, they've told you that flash in the repos is broken, use the one from adobe [05:26] shm613: cat /etc/resolv.conf [05:26] _Casey_: well, what version of ubuntu are you using? [05:26] nickrud, then someone said otherwise [05:26] bio: i'm on feisty still, btw [05:26] if i pull out my usb mouse and plug it back in ubuntu doesnt see it forcing me to reboot how can i fix this [05:26] so if it's broken in gutsy i'm unaware [05:26] te_: yes there are two nameservers listed [05:27] shm613: Are you using native driver or ndiswrapper? [05:27] <_Casey_> im on.... [05:27] Onyx: try and enabling it then :} [05:27] i've done an install out of the tarball on dapper, it's not hard :p [05:27] lol [05:27] Hmmmmm.... having issues getting coolkey to work with firefox. [05:27] JoshJ, feisty here too [05:27] shm613: host av.com [05:27] Is it possible to make removeable devices (mp3players, flash drives) not have owners so that anyone can mount one in any user and always have permission to read and write to them? [05:27] shm613: Does that return anything? [05:27] bio: then try it, you can removei it later === danfg_ is now known as danfg [05:27] yeah, I got the tarball thing [05:27] te_: the driver from the restricted drivers manager [05:27] Sturm: Yes [05:27] jebblue: I'm hosting a game server (halflife2) over the holidays. It doesn't appear to be a bandwidth hog, but I'm worried that if I leave it running all night, it'll suck me dry. [05:27] <_Casey_> its an audio/video production version, i forget [05:27] the tarball is dead easy, you just stick the .so into the right dir [05:28] _Casey_: ubuntu studio? [05:28] <_Casey_> yes [05:28] <_Casey_> thats it [05:28] Sturm: Just edit the /etc/group file and place new users where they have access. [05:28] this nice also I just double-clicked on it and it launched [05:28] <_Casey_> stickam was working earlier, not anymore [05:28] Smegzor yup good one I've wanted to do some monitoring like that with the old Unreal server too [05:29] Casey: ubuntu studio kinda does its own thing, so i don't really know what to tell you... open a terminal and type "lsb_release -a" and see what the output is. [05:29] _Casey_: then undo whatever you did with the mic? [05:29] Smegzor asks how to monitor the network traffic for just one app? [05:29] <_Casey_> all i did was plug it in [05:29] anyone using eclipse 3.3? [05:29] this will allow me to compile programs and use them without installation just like in windows [05:29] :/ [05:29] should I use /usr/lib/mozilla ? is that the default path? [05:29] JoshJ: i dont' think that would effect flash, but who knows. [05:29] danfg, from eclipse.org , yes [05:29] bio: i think it should work [05:29] IndyGunFreak: when something breaks, undo whatever your most recent change was :p [05:29] lol [05:30] <_Casey_> http://pastebin.com/m4eea0b62 [05:30] te_: the connection timed out with host av.com [05:30] nickrud: where can i find an eclipse 3.3 debian package? [05:30] shm613: You might re-boot and see if that does anything. Reboot with the wired nic unplugged. [05:30] and keep a log book! [05:30] Smegzor asks how to monitor the network traffic for just one app? [05:30] _Casey_: i dont' know, i use gutsy, and flash is working fine for me. [05:30] Anyone here use coolkey/PKCS #11? [05:30] ok... im sure this is a repeated issue... but i've googled my arse off [05:30] _Casey_: can you view youtube? [05:30] * _Casey_ tries [05:30] danfg: do you really need a Debian package? Can't you just download it from eclipse.com? [05:30] my integrated webcam/mic works in skype and ekiga [05:31] jebblue: um.. why are you doing that? [05:31] danfg: errr, eclipse.org rather [05:31] cant get it to activate in a flash webchat [05:31] /usr/lib/firefox [05:31] <_Casey_> yep works fine [05:31] dell 1720 integrated [05:31] ls |more [05:31] Smegzor because I want to know too? [05:31] <_Casey_> or not it just froze [05:31] danfg, I haven't seen one. I just untarred (unzipped?) the download into my ~/local dir, linked the executable into ~/bin , put ~/bin on my path and all was good [05:31] _Casey_: now that is wierd. [05:31] spamming won't help [05:31] I still dont get what I am supposed to do, I dont see any "disk" [05:31] _Casey_: well, that makes more sense.. something has happeend to your flash. [05:31] <_Casey_> i let it sit for a second to load a video and it just froze [05:31] anyone? anyone? Beuler? [05:31] Beuler? [05:31] carpediem: i had eclipse 3.3 working then it suddenly went nuts and i removed it. it all happened after i added/removed some unrelated (apparently) packages with synaptic. i'm scared :( [05:32] there it is === rter43 is now known as Ashfire908 [05:32] Can anyone help me [05:32] I just put linux on my desktop it used to have windows and the os was on a raid and the raid failed so i took out the hd with the error and put linux on a new hard drive, one of the hardrives (not part of the raid) was in the computer and was hiberanted by windows and now linux wouldnt let me mount the hd because it was hibernated by windows. [05:32] Hey all, i was wondering, are there any good video edeting programs for linux? Also, are there any good screen recorders? [05:32] _Casey_: i would use synaptic to uninstall flash, then download the tar.gz file from Adobve.com, and reinstalll flash using it. [05:32] danfg: hmm, strange. Never had a problem with it at all, other than when I ran the 64bit version [05:32] Smegzor you're welcome man if I knew I'd tell you in detail instead I get criticized for trying to find someone who know, thanks. [05:32] jimbo - do you care about the data on that drive? [05:32] i installed the flash-nonfree 9.0 from adobe [05:32] carpediem: eclipse 3.3 was installed from the tar.gz file btw, i was just wondering where i could find a deb package instead [05:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo I am following this guide for setting up NFS, but I am getting permission defined on the client side. Anybody have any ideas. Only difference from article is that I added a "nfsuser" as a user and used that as my home directory [05:33] i have EVERYTHING working seamlessly except the cam [05:33] j-laptop, yes i do [05:33] <_Casey_> flashplugin-nonfree? [05:33] *sigh* some peeps. I appreciate the help, it was just the method. [05:33] Sturm: What was the first username you had when you installed? [05:33] hey, i just installed Ubuntu on two machines with the same cd. For some reason i can't find java6 in the reposetory on this machine but i had no problem finding it on the other. The icedtea thing doesn't work with eclipse so. [05:33] _Casey_: thats what it is in the repos if i recall. [05:33] whatever the new flash release is for linux [05:33] Smegzor: ?.. what are you talking about. [05:33] jimbo - then I don't know - if you didn't care, you could dd the drive to clear it out [05:33] and then use it [05:34] fucking shit [05:34] <_Casey_> oh thats not even installed [05:34] my webcam light is on now [05:34] !language | orionn [05:34] orionn: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [05:34] orionn: watch the language [05:34] Smegzor: beggars/choosers? [05:34] oops language [05:34] Jebblue was spamming my question is all. [05:34] _Casey_: lol, that could be part of your problem.. but regardless, go to adobe.com [05:34] j-laptop, ok thanks anyway [05:34] ubotu should auto say that upon keywords like fuck and shit [05:35] danfg: hard to say....if you've somehow borked your system with regards to eclipse, I'd be surprised if a .deb install would change that. [05:35] Sonja: ?... ubotu should ban people for being morons [05:35] the bot should auto kick Sonja :} [05:35] im innocent [05:35] danfg: are you sure you didn't install a non-Sun version of Java or something? [05:35] Can anyone help me [05:35] I just put linux on my desktop it used to have windows and the os was on a raid and the raid failed so i took out the hd with the error and put linux on a new hard drive, one of the hardrives (not part of the raid) was in the computer and was hiberanted by windows and now linux wouldnt let me mount the hd because it was hibernated by windows. [05:35] _Casey_: are you there? [05:36] carpediem: i was hoping it would, resolving dependencies and such [05:36] <_Casey_> yes hold please [05:36] carpediem: not that i recall [05:36] jimbo: install ext2 for windows [05:36] <_Casey_> ok adobe.com [05:36] jimbo: um. How can it still be hibernated if windows is no longer running? [05:36] danfg: there are no dependencies for eclipse that aren't included with it, other than the JVM [05:37] carpediem: ok. i'm downloading the latest tar.gz and i'll try installing it again [05:37] danfg: can you go to the command line and type "java -version" [05:37] <_Casey_> option 1: tar.gz [05:37] _Casey_: yes [05:37] <_Casey_> i do a ./configure, make, sudo make install? [05:38] I need some help [05:38] _Casey_: no [05:38] carpediem: yikes, "Could not create the Java virtual machine.", but that's recent, it was working just now. i changed some settings with the java-alternatives script. brb [05:38] ugh. i hate highlights [05:38] _Casey_: extract thefile inside your home folder [05:38] <_Casey_> ./flashplayer-installer [05:38] jimbo, I found this, read only though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509276 [05:38] <_Casey_> its on my desktop? [05:38] !find mozzila [05:38] Package/file mozzila does not exist in gutsy [05:38] _Casey_: ok, you may want to keep it in your home folder, cuz i'm pretty sure you have to keep that, but i could be wrong [05:38] !mozilla [05:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about mozilla - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [05:39] danfg: okay, even if that's recent, still needs to be fixed before you'll ever run eclipse again. [05:39] <_Casey_> okie hold [05:39] !find Mozzila [05:39] joshj, i assume windows was hibernated when the raid fell appart so i guess it hibernated the drive, i have no idea really [05:39] Package/file mozzila does not exist in gutsy [05:39] one z Shadow147 [05:39] I am trying to install my nvidia driver with envy and i'm using a proxy so it wants me to put the .run file in a folder, but i don't have access to that folder, how can i log in as root and be able to drop the file into the folder [05:39] jimbo: it doesn't really work like that [05:39] Sturm: Edit file /etc/group and add new users to to the appropriate places. For instance, If the first user was "fred", and now you've added user "jane" Find each line that has fred and put a , and then add the name of new user "jane" so that each line that has fred also has jane It should look like this: disk::6:root,adm,fred,jane [05:39] are you sure this drive didn't get corrupted somehow? [05:39] <_Casey_> it cannot make the dir in home [05:39] !find mozilla [05:39] then cd into the directory.. /home/whatever/install_flash_player_9_linux [05:39] Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-af, mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-be, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd (and 78 others) [05:39] vegananarchist, sudo mv filename location [05:40] Anyone here set up 5.1 before? I can't seem to get my center speaker working. Speaker is pluged in and does work in windows(or if i plug it into another slot) center is turned up in alsa mixer. doesn't work playing mp3s (amarok set in 5.1) or playing dvds that are 5.1 audio. rest of speakers are fine (except rear left/right when playing mp3s) [05:40] _Casey_: why are you making it there, just copy/paste it there. [05:40] jimbo: you may want to try ntfsfix then ntfsmount? [05:40] <_Casey_> nono [05:40] joshj, i dont know the error i am getting is that the drive is hibernated and that i need to reboot windows then shut down properly if i want to mount the drive [05:40] Anyone know of a good screen recording program? Also a video edeting program? [05:40] <_Casey_> im using the extractor thingy [05:40] "You may run ntfsfix on an NTFS volume if you think it was damaged by [05:40] Windows or some other way and it can’t be mounted." [05:40] _Casey_: ok, so just extract it to home [05:40] (from the manpage) [05:40] <_Casey_> http://pastebin.com/m42cf3fa3 [05:41] it's part of ntfsprogs so you may need to install that [05:41] is there anyway to read/write to ntfs? [05:41] !ntfs [05:41] To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE [05:41] _Casey_: doubel click it, and use file roller [05:41] !ntfs-3g | bio [05:41] THANKS! [05:41] bio: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [05:41] then just extract it to home. [05:41] problem changed: eclipse should in theory work right away with icedTea, it doesnt even though the icedTea is registered as the jvm with java-version :/ [05:41] thx, bazhang [05:42] cMinion: have you run eclipse from the command line to see what the error is? [05:42] _Casey_: you lost? [05:42] <_Casey_> i double click it and the extract thing just pops up [05:42] does ANYONE have a fully functional dell integrated webcam/mic [05:42] Why does System > Preferences > Hardware Information > HAL_Device_Manager not provide RAM information? Or did I overlook something? [05:42] or am i going to have to code for 3 days? [05:42] <_Casey_> i double click the tar.gz [05:42] _Casey_: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak" [05:42] jimbo: you need to reinstall then, or it may be a hardware issue (sounds that way), or go to ##windows [05:43] its not hard to install flash :x [05:43] yeah, it can't find the jvm. Workied fine on another comp where i used a slightly out of date rep which allowed sun-java downloads. [05:43] !webcam | orionn (and if it's not there, please code :) [05:43] orionn (and if it's not there, please code :): Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [05:43] thanks everyone who pmed me [05:44] but you know, would be nice to make it happen with the official up to date rep and the" oh so fantastic" icedTea package :P [05:44] trying camorama now [05:45] has anyone been able to fully utilise bluetooth on their system to interact with a phone properly? [05:45] RoshanK: want a link/factoid? [05:45] bazhang sure [05:45] awesome! [05:45] !bluetooth [05:45] For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup [05:46] write access to ntfs! [05:46] i take the silence as "no solution", changing to old rep ^^ [05:46] * Brancan is an Ubuntu noobie (Yay) [05:46] do I have to run the program every time? [05:46] ntfs-config that is [05:46] bio: one would hope not :} [05:46] bio: you shouldn't have to [05:46] sweet [05:46] cMinion: what do you mean..... what happens when you type "java -version" [05:47] not like it takes more than 2 seconds... [05:47] how do i restore a file that i accidentally deleted from an .deb package? [05:47] After entering Minicom in Menu with "gnome-terminal -e sudo minicom", I choose the item and the terminal just opens/closes [05:47] taak: you dont [05:47] thanks everyone [05:47] be back for another session soon! [05:47] i don't, but i deliberately make it read-only for obvious reasons [05:47] can you be a little less cryptic there? [05:48] JoshJ: the linux viruses? :} [05:48] taak, what do you mean you deleted a file from a deb package, that's not really easy to do [05:48] bazhang: more like the fact that write support is apparently slightly on the iffy side [05:48] taak: you first [05:48] taak: can't you just reinstall the deb? [05:48] taak, when you delete in linux it is fairly permanent [05:48] carpediem: its says IcedTead Jvm 7 etc etc [05:48] JoshJ: okay. just kidding [05:49] taak, if you deleted a file from a deb, it was not an accident [05:49] cMinion: okay...can you PM me the output when you type "eclipse" [05:49] i mean, if i'm moving stuff to windows, i have the windows ext3 reader, so why not do that instead, right? [05:49] hear, hear [05:49] two tarballs enclosed on an ar archive, lot of unwrapping to do [05:49] in* [05:49] JoshJ: righto [05:49] so i usually just "take" rather than "give" so i'm always reading from the "other" os and writing to "this" os. [05:49] Sturm: Did you get it yet? [05:49] il try ^^ [05:50] ok [05:50] i deleted an apache module out from /etc/apache2/mods-available [05:50] taak, which one? [05:50] taak: you could also ask in #apache [05:51] mod_python [05:51] bazhang, no, that dir is debian/ubuntu specific [05:51] i know which package it came from [05:51] nickrud: sorry! and thanks! [05:51] apt-get install it again doesn't restore it, though [05:51] taak: did you remove it first? [05:51] otherwise apt just goes "it's already installed" and exits [05:51] the .deb file is still in /var/cache/apt/archives [05:51] taak, then sudo dpkg -i --force-confnew /var/cache/apt/archives/ [05:52] ...yeah, that [05:52] you could also have done apt-get clean :p [05:52] hi, and bye [05:53] * nickrud goes off to double check [05:53] nickrud: man apt-get, look for "clean" :) [05:53] taak, that's --force-confmiss , sorry [05:54] JoshJ, that just removes packages from the archive [05:54] nickrud: doesn't that do what you want (forces a new download)? [05:54] there's a .conf and a .load file, will that --confmiss do both? [05:54] maybe i misread it [05:54] * JoshJ loads it back up [05:54] JoshJ, but if a conf file is missing, apt will not replace it because it assumes you removed it on purpose [05:55] nickrud: --purge on a remove doesn't result in it making new conf files? [05:56] i thought that was sort of the point [05:56] JoshJ, yes it will [05:56] JoshJ, why not use one command rather than two ;p [05:56] i'm going to try --dry-run first [05:56] lol, wise man [05:56] nickrud: because you can do "apt-get remove --purge foo && apt-get clean" ? [05:57] JoshJ, 6 here, half a dozen there. There's lots of tools [05:57] Has anyone ever gotten Multisync to work with a Pocket PC? [05:57] nickrud: if we keep talking about it, some perl guy will write a one-liner there to do it [05:58] * nickrud shuts up immediately, he hates languages written in symbols [05:58] LOL [05:58] <_Casey_> i forgot the chat i was just in ;x [05:58] (psst... technically, the alphabet is a set of symbols) [05:58] ok apparently it ignores --dry-run if you put it at the end [05:58] but it appears to have worked anyway [05:59] JoshJ, and there's one reason you might want to use --force-missing, you might have modified some of the other conf files and not want to lose them [06:00] generally speaking, i do --purge specifically because i borked up a config file and WANT to lose them; but I'll keep that in mind :) [06:01] How do I use md5sum from the command line to generate an md5 sum of text [06:01] jimmygoon, md5sum [06:01] jimmygoon: what's the text in? a text file? [06:01] I just want to type it :P [06:01] oh [06:01] I know I can do "md5sum -" to use stdin but then how do I tell it I'm done and to generate the chksum [06:01] <_Casey_> woo it works [06:01] echo "foo" | md5sum ? [06:01] <_Casey_> idk how to get my mic working [06:01] jimmygoon, hit ctl-d [06:01] JoshJ, yup [06:01] nickrud, thanks [06:01] jimmygoon: send a EOF (control-D) [06:02] Note echo -n foo | md5sum [06:02] otherwise you'll be including the terminating null. [06:02] ooh, good catch [06:02] cafuego, yep, trial and error caught that one [06:02] * nickrud bows towards cafuego [06:02] the ctrl+d didn't and I was like wait.... [06:03] how to i change my username? [06:03] the md5sum for "lol" and "lol\0" are different [06:03] anyway, thanks [06:03] in irc fsanlu? [06:03] fsanlu: here or in your OS? [06:03] bazhang, no in ubuntu [06:03] carpediem: java now is running when i set update-java-alternatives to "java-gcj" [06:03] haha i wish it was as easy as /nick [06:03] how do i improve the ubuntu translation to Esperanto? [06:03] fsanlu: it's still pretty easy [06:04] danfg: ek...I'd go with sun java if I were you. [06:04] !rosetta [06:04] rosetta is a Web-based system for translating open source software into any language. See https://launchpad.net/rosetta/+about [06:04] system-administration-users and groups [06:04] right-click on the user in question, properties [06:04] fsanlu: it kinda is, depending on whether you want to move your homedir too :-) [06:04] change the names. [06:04] and yeah, you'll need to check the homedir and chown -R it most likely [06:04] Sonja, that rosetta above was for you , forgot to point it at you [06:04] ubuntu may do that automatically, though [06:05] okay gotcha :] thank you very much sirs [06:05] hey i'm wondering is Xubuntu still active [06:05] carpediem: exactly, i have it installed, but when i set update-java-alternatives to "java-6-sun", java won't run :( [06:05] frederick85, yes [06:05] frederick85: #xubuntu [06:05] danfg: okay, is eclipse running under gcj? [06:05] carpediem: i'll try reinstalling java-6-sun packages. [06:06] carpediem: yes, but the 3.2 version, i want to run the 3.3 version [06:06] danfg: do you have it installed? [06:06] JoshJ: 3.3? [06:06] yeah [06:06] Can anyone recommend a lightweight WM/X-Win for a server install? [06:06] danfg: yeah....you can try that, if not, you could also use sun-java-5. I don't think Europa requires JAva 6 [06:06] danfg: you can switch what it uses inside eclipse without having to do any special installing tricks [06:06] fluxbox [06:06] xfce [06:06] Sonja, sorry that link is way out of date, I guess [06:07] flux is nice imo [06:07] JoshJ: lemme try that, brb [06:07] what is ubuntu alternate [06:07] ? [06:07] can i make a xubuntu box with that? [06:07] i found this https://translations.launchpad.net/exaile/trunk/+pots/exaile/eo/+translate?show=untranslated [06:07] J_Laptop: does the xfce support a vnc-server type setup by default? [06:08] danfg: window-preferences-java [06:08] anything can support vnc server [06:08] then "installed JREs" and you can edit what the default one [06:08] ubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso what is this iso for? [06:08] if you set it up right [06:08] at boot, with /etc/fstab. is there a way to specify which user does the mount. e.g for NFS mounting [06:09] the alternate cd's are for command line installs [06:09] J_Laptop: easier than a gentoo mini iso? [06:09] for machines in which the gui fails, or if you want special things like lvm setups [06:09] Sonja, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+lang/eo [06:09] much easier to run the installer [06:09] Sonja, heh, beat me to it [06:09] J_Laptop: i'd like to setup a custom desktop so would the alternate be appropriate for me? [06:09] maybe even a server cd [06:10] so you get just a base, and can build from that [06:10] J_Laptop: the server cd couldn't detect my processor type for some reason [06:10] or a minimal install frederick85 [06:10] ramza3: man fstab suggests that you can "allow a user to mount" [06:10] i'm not sure if that means a specific user or any user [06:10] bazhang: where is the minimal install [06:10] i am getting "Failed to load module "Type1" (module does not exist, 0)" can anyone tell me where to get this module? [06:11] i think it means "any" because my cdrom is listed as just "user" as opposed to my username *shrug* [06:11] !minimal | frederick85 [06:11] frederick85: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [06:12] ncurses based frederick85 [06:12] sounds like the debian installer [06:12] a bit like the netboot from debian [06:13] how long does it take to generate rainbow tables? [06:13] got to go out for a bit, back in a while [06:14] anyone here using intel onboard videocard? [06:14] !find intel [06:14] Found: xserver-xorg-video-intel, intel2gas, rng-tools [06:15] how do i view the text to be trsanlated in its proper context? [06:15] look at the code or run the app yourself? [06:15] (assuming you're talking about translating applications, that is) [06:15] So I've got an oddball here.... My menu randomly generates duplicate entries for all options. Haven't noticed what action may cause it, but it's fairly frequent, a few times a day or so. It also generates an "Other" folder that has FOUR of each of my manually-entered entries and Wine programs.... Anyone else seen this? [06:15] ubuntu can't detect my SD card while my windows xp can detect it. my O2 pocket pcs cant detect it as well [06:15] any idea? === stunatra_ is now known as stunatra [06:17] wers: what type of SD card slot do you have? is it USB or something else? [06:17] anyone have idea why xorg.0.log says ... type1 (module does not exist)? [06:17] (ie: does it show in lspci ?) [06:17] Hi - anyone doing FTA with a Skystar 2 card that can give me some config help? I've got /dev/dvb/adapter0, but cant' get a scan to work... [06:18] JoshJ, usb slot on my ubuntu and built in reader in my xp lappy [06:18] wers: if your sd slot is connected by USB it should treat it as a standard USB mass storage device [06:18] Anyone else using Epiphany on 7.10 find the 'middle click close' extension doesn't actually work? [06:18] but if it's builtin it's probably something else [06:19] JoshJ, [06:19] my other sd cards work with this usb reader [06:19] I am having an issue with mounting a samba share via "sudo -t smbfs" and not being able to write to the directory as a user (only lets root) when using "-o umask=755"????? [06:19] whats the command to clear the font cache? [06:19] sheesh, I'll go install epiphany just for you, Madpilot :p [06:19] WGGMk: normal [06:19] hello every body [06:19] Madpilot, theres two of them in my epiphany, the first works the second doesn't [06:20] nickrud, it's a nice browser, except that in Gutsy some of the extensions seem busted [06:20] wers: oh, the card itself is the problem and you know the reader works? interesting... not sure how to help then :/ [06:20] Myrtti: heya.. remember me from earlier.. pastebin warning haha [06:20] Madpilot, I used it a lot on my older computer, it so much lighter than firefox [06:20] in computer:///, i can see my usb reader [06:20] dirkg3nt1y, on 7.10? interesting, only one listed on my epiph install here, and it's busted [06:21] but the reader can't detect the card [06:21] WGGMk: use gid and uid. oh, and cifs, not smbfs [06:21] * nickrud mutters about installing the wrong epiphany *again* [06:21] lol [06:21] Myrtti: cifs = windows right? [06:21] wers: Is the card that doesn't work > 1gb? [06:22] WGGMk: enhanced version of sorts of smbfs [06:22] << actually is on a gentoo box now :))) [06:22] mmmmmm cheesecake [06:22] 4gb, J-e-f-f-A [06:22] 4gb sd card [06:22] Myrtti: ahh, should i specify gid or uid or both? the directory is read/write to only a certain group... so is gid sufficient? [06:23] wers: Perhaps the reader can't handle the size of the card. My laptop can't read a card > 1GB, but my other card readers can. [06:23] hmmmh [06:23] my pocket pcs cant read it but my windows lappy can [06:23] ooooh [06:23] that's so interesting [06:23] so I should think of buying a new one? [06:23] wers: SD specs mention max size of 2gb [06:23] yes [06:23] btw, my pocket pcs can read the 2gb card [06:24] oooh [06:24] wers: everything more than that aren't officially sd [06:24] carpediem: java --version gives me "Could not create the Java virtual machine.", but eclipse seems to be working fine now. :( wierd! [06:24] what do you mean not officially sd? [06:24] Myrtti: what are the parameters for using cifs? and to pass the gid option?? [06:24] danfg: do update-java-alternatives [06:24] wers: they might or might not work [06:24] (to whichever one you want your command-line usage to be) [06:25] it doesn't affect eclipse at all [06:25] w00t, got wine & my CAC Reader working. [06:25] danfg: well, eclipse looks several places, so java maybe not set on the path, but eclispe is finding it anyway [06:25] JoshJ: --list? java-1.5.0-sun, java-6-sun, and java-gcj [06:25] WGGMk: sorry, I can't remember off hand :-C [06:25] well which one do you want to use on the command line? :p [06:25] wers: I just know that my 2GB SD card I bought for my camera a year or two ago doesn't even get recognized in my P4 laptop's slot. But using a USB reader, it works fine. [06:25] ooh. this is the disadvantage of this huge sd [06:25] deym [06:25] Myrtti: its cool, thats why god, on the 8th day (yes i know its 8) created google [06:25] danfg: just do --set java-6-sun (or whichever) [06:25] Is the McAfee AntiVirus suite for Linux any good? [06:26] i should have bought a 2gb one instead [06:26] wasted money. deym. hehe [06:26] Onyx: um... why do you need anything beyond Clam? [06:26] wers: only recent mobile phone models support >2gb [06:26] JoshJ: What's Clam? Gotta forgive me dude... been out of Linux for 6 years now [06:26] y do u need clam [06:26] some do unofficially [06:26] clam is an antivirus program for linux [06:26] JoshJ: i've been setting it to all three, eclipse works when i set it to java-6-sun, but java --version doesn't work (unrecognized command --version, no java vm) [06:26] free, gpl, etc [06:26] Onyx: there is a really good description of the difference between the need for an antivirus between windows and linux users' on the forums [06:27] what is the best way to launch a program (daemon) and keep it running continuously, and catch when it stops running to throw a red flag === mors is now known as morris === morris is now known as mors1 [06:27] JoshJ: Ah, I see... I can get McAfee for free though (DoD Employee) [06:27] i bought this 4gb sd because i'm thinking of buying an eee pc. any idea if this will work with the eee? [06:27] JoshJ: Yes, I realize it's not "free" software :P [06:27] daemons don't normally just quit hwilde [06:27] Onyx, why waste time with an antivirus at all in Linux? [06:27] wers: #eeepc exists, you may want to check that [06:28] Madpilot: I seem to recall some vicious virii when I was using Linux. [06:28] Onyx: this a very informational link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=510812 about Security in Ubuntu [06:28] Once again, this was years ago. [06:28] wow [06:28] cool [06:28] carpediem, JoshJ: damn i'm tired, i'll work on this tomorrow. you guys are awesome, thanks for all your help [06:28] WGGMk: Thank you, I'll get to reading :D [06:28] thanks Joshj [06:28] Onyx, um, No. There have been basically no Linux viruses in the wild. [06:28] i must catch some Zs, cya [06:28] dirkg3nt1y, maybe it runs out of memory or something. that is not the point really... if u launch from init.d what keeps it running [06:28] is Ubuntu likely to have PaX any time soon? [06:29] http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t [06:29] Check out this candidate's latest psychotic utterance! [06:29] Onyx: its very friendly in terms of translation for migrating user's.. I found it extermely helpful in understanding how Linux is built [06:29] daemons become processes that run in the background you can view running processes with "ps -A" [06:30] dirkg3nt1y, what monitors the daemons to guarantee they are running or restart them if necessary [06:30] well ubuntu uses the rc init program, I not real familiar with it though. [06:31] dirkg3nt1y, so does it run on some type of schedule and check if the daemon is running? is it like crontab or what [06:31] pretty sure it's in /etc/init.d somewhere [06:32] hy leh knalan ga........ [06:32] the processes in /etc/init.d are just running in the background. i can kill them and they do not respawn. is there a way to monitor them and restart automatically or throw an alert [06:33] It's pretty unbelievable how much better Linux has gotten since I last used it... [06:33] hwilde: cat out a file in /etc/init.d [06:33] and look at its comments [06:34] i have tor installed, i see the following, for example: # Required-Start: $local_fs, $remote_fs, $network, $named, $time [06:34] # Should-Start: $syslog [06:34] # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5 [06:35] hi [06:35] hwilde: processes listed in /etc/init.d/* (or upstart equivalent) are not automatically restarted. If a task is specified in /etc/inittab (or equivalent) as "respawn", then init will restart it when it exits [06:35] unfortunately i don't really know the details of how init works [06:35] timfrost, excellent and where does it restart, i want to send myself an email there === u is now known as sp`ke [06:35] Why wouldnt i be able to change my resolution of my monitor suddenly? I could before now Im not sure what changed :/ [06:36] Filled-Void: have you installed anything recently? === Gurby is now known as Jonathan [06:37] hi [06:37] JoshJ, nothing that I guess. maybe battle fo wesnoth but I was able to use the resolution then [06:37] hwilde: you can't send an email - the init process itself notes that the task has exited, and will automatically restart it - that is what the respawn option in /etc/inittab means [06:37] Filled-Void: hrm. are you on ATI or nvidia? [06:37] I need help with installing wireless for ubuntu on my PC [06:37] JoshJ, nVidia 8600GT [06:37] Please help me sbody [06:37] hwilde: if you have the code to the process, you could make it send an email whenever it starts [06:38] timfrost, yeah but this seems like it might make the system unstable. i might just use crontab [06:38] JoshJ, so you're saying inittab respawn will call the daemon's restart method [06:38] heck, without the code you could create a shell script that replaced the normal executable file, sends an email, and then starts the program [06:38] is there anybody who canhelp me installing wireless [06:38] hwilde: presumably? [06:38] !wifi | Jonathan [06:38] Jonathan: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [06:38] i mean, why wouldn't it? [06:38] hwilde, and inittab is replaced by the scripts in /etc/event.d , you can see an example in tty1 in that dir [06:38] Filled-Void: which driver? the free one or the proprietary one? [06:38] ok [06:39] so can I find guidence thre [06:39] JoshJ, I have this shell script. It starts the file, checks the pid every 3s, restarts, sends email. But this monitor script Also Dies sometimes :/ [06:39] JoshJ, Restricted. Would installing thmes have any effect on screen resolution? [06:39] for [06:39] wireless [06:39] Filled-Void: possibly. the restricted one can't really be helped; nobody here has the code for it etc [06:39] nickrud, but how does it monitor them... is it a sleep timer or in crontab or just continuous cpu usage [06:39] i will look at that thank you very much! [06:40] Ubotu [06:40] !fixres | [06:40] : The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto [06:40] Filled-Void: if you recently switched, that could be the reason [06:40] and yeah, check that [06:40] JoshJ, i did try some icon themes and gtk themes maybe Let me try resettign everyhtignback and remove awn [06:40] FixVideoResolutionHowto on the wiki === stunatra_ is now known as stunatra [06:40] hwilde, the init process controls that .... as long as it's running [06:40] In Ubuntu 7.10, how can I get a simple Web Server running and a page serving the files I wish to download to my handheld? [06:40] hwilde, but if init dies, so does the computer [06:40] Is a5benwillis still around? [06:41] nickrud, yeah i am not trying to make it less stable here obviously... but my program dies sometimes, and the monitor script can also die (rare but true). I either have to wrap it with another monitor script or add to crontab [06:41] Fezzler: install and configure Apache, though the latter part I can't tell you much about [06:41] Fezzler: apache? though i'm not sure how "simple" apache is [06:42] !lampp | Fezzler [06:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [06:42] hwilde, JoshJ: NO , init will NOT call a script's restart method. Scripts in /etc/init.d are only called if they have a link in /etc/rcX.d named to start with S (start) or K (kill), and are called as the run level changes [06:42] Dangit, once again I've wasted 30+ mins ripping a DVD. Does anyone know what it takes to make a default install of Kubuntu with k9copy successfully rip a dvd? The sounds seems to work, but that's about it... The video is just a black screen, or in the past, a still screeny of the .avi [06:42] yo..is there a better guide than the advanced bash scripting guide out there to learn bash scripting and get a better handle on sed and awk? [06:42] !lamp [06:42] LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+) [06:42] timfrost, yeh thats what i thought... can't just us the restart method [06:42] Fezzler, yeah lamp that's waht you want. I thought it was spelled lampp tho. or xampp [06:43] I'm trying to link an old HP620LX WinCE 2.11 device to my Ubuntu PC. Multisync did not work. I know have a ppp connection between the two devices but stumped on how to get files across? [06:43] timfrost, so I should just monitor it with crontab then? how is crontab guaranteed to run every minute [06:43] Fezzler: SSH? [06:44] i'm attempting to install a .prc on my new treo, but i can't find anything besides changing owner name in gnome-pilot [06:44] Is there support for Sparc distro of Ubuntu? [06:44] hwilde: Is LAMP a lot to go through to exchange a few files? [06:44] Fezzler: are they both connected over the internet? [06:44] hwilde, you might find monit interesting ... as long as it doesn't die either :) [06:44] Joshj: How? [06:44] Fezzler: or are they networked together somehow? [06:45] JoshJ: Direct Connection using ttyS0 on Ubuntu and ppp on CE device [06:45] hwilde, here's a brief howto http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-monitor-and-restart-linux-unix-service.html [06:46] i've never used ttys0 :( [06:46] #jakarta [06:46] Joshj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49663/ === cHeChA_cE_EmO is now known as mitha_muAni3sTh [06:47] #jakarta [06:47] nickrud, that is interesting nice googling. but i think i trust a crontab 2minute rather than that unknown monit package lol [06:48] Fezzler: sorry, but i really can't help you if you're doing it that way. given an internet connection (or even a LAN connection) you can use SSH, FTP, HTTP, whatever [06:48] hopefully you figure it out because you really shouldn't need to do it via internet *shrug* [06:49] hwilde: Yes, crontab is probably best. Put an explicit entry in /etc/crontab like '* * * * * root ' where is the script to check the status of your process, and restart it if necessary. The 'root' entry specifies to run the script as the root user. The asterisks tell cron to schedule it every minute. There are other places to put scripts that are run on a daily or hourly interval, but those scripts [06:50] JoshJ: It also suggests "using an off-site web server" [06:50] timfrost, u mean goto superuser type crontab -e and add */2 * * * * cmd [06:50] JoshJ: "Start up 'Pocket Explorer' and enter the URL of you desktop machine, which should have a Web Server running and a page serving the software you wish to download. If you want to use an off-site web server then the IP-forwarding will need to be configure correctly - This is too complicated to explain here. " [06:50] no, it's actually suggesting you don't use an offsite one [06:51] your desktop machine is easy for it to get to, otherwise requires forwarding [06:51] hwilde: [06:51] hwilde: Yes, or sudo vi /etc/crontab [06:52] timfrost, u should use crontab -e never edit that file directly [06:52] JoshJ: In the PocketPC browser I'm loading http://192.168.1.102. Is that good enough? [06:53] Fezzler: do you have the web server set up? [06:53] that stands a pretty good chance of being it (or 192.168.1.1) but it's pointless if you don't have a webserver set up :p [06:54] JoshJ: No. That's what I don't know how/what to do. I have Ubuntu 7.10 set up. [06:54] Fezzler: just do sudo apt-get install sshd [06:54] JoshJ: LAMP is recommended? [06:54] if the CE thing has SSH, anyway [06:54] if you need a full-fledged webserver, yes, LAMP [06:54] i have no idea how apache works though :/ [06:55] JoshJ: WHat os ssh and how will it alter my existing Ubuntu set up? [06:55] could anyone please tell me how i can reinstall module TYPE1? xorg.0.log says this module does not exist [06:55] sshd lets you receive SSH connections (you already have the outgoing SSH program) [06:56] JoshJ: I believe I have ssh installed. [06:56] you do have the outgoing one, you probably don't have the incoming one [06:56] anyone doing FTA here? [06:56] whats a good video joining app? [06:56] basically you just do ssh username@ipaddress and then you can do what you need to.. for file transfer you'll end up using scp, but that's done over ssh [06:56] Anyone doing anything cool with asterisk and Ubuntu? [06:57] Do I need any special packages to play a .avi? [06:57] how do i run gnome-pilot? i can run gnome-pilot settings and gnome-pilot-make-password, but not gnome-pilot [06:57] adamonline46: depends, avi is just a wrapper [06:57] if you have PUTTY, winSCP or similar on the CE, or a SSH program of some sort, you can use SSH to transfer stuff [06:57] JoshJ: Wow. Perhaps I should go the terminal route, like minicom [06:57] adamonline46, i believe that the easiest would be to install vlc that should install the codecs required [06:58] scp SourceFile.ext user@host:directory/TargetFile.ext [06:58] scp user@host:folder/SourceFile.ext TargetFile.ext [06:58] (if you're using SCP) [06:58] http://www.medibuntu.org/ <== [06:58] it's part of ssh though, and obviously the @host one has to have sshd installed [06:58] carpediem: Oh really? Hmm. That's news to me. I'm wondering if I'm having problems ripping video, or playing my rips. I really dunno where to go from here... [06:58] you could also use telnet actually, i'm pretty sure CE has telnet built in [06:59] RoshanK: I'll search for that package, thank you [06:59] Is there a Synaptic procedure available which is roughly equivalent to apt-cache show ? [06:59] JoshJ: I would learn a lot, which is my goal with Ubuntu, but that seems complicated. I could also stick an Ethernet card in the HP620LX and connect via internet [06:59] !avi | adamonline46 [06:59] adamonline46: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [06:59] Has anyone here got their Wii remotes working with Ubuntu? [07:00] Fezzler: well, if you did it via internet you'd need some sort of internet file transfer [07:00] which would be HTTP (web pages, requiring apache or some other web server); FTP; SSH (SCP); Telnet; whatever [07:00] Kann man mittels Synaptic zu einem ähnlichen Ergebnis kommen wie mittels des Befehls apt-cache show ? [07:00] unless you're doing it by e-mailing yourself, but that's not how you're "supposed" to do it [07:01] !de | bullgard4 [07:01] bullgard4: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [07:01] JoshJ: WinCE has ScottyFTP and Firefox has FTP too [07:01] bullgard4: if you highlight the program in synaptic , right-click, properties, and hit "description" you can get a lot of it [07:02] can anyone tell me the name of a good video joining app? [07:02] Fezzler: Firefox's FTP is a downloader, not a server. you'll need a FTP server such as ftpd [07:02] JoshJ: For my own education, with some sort of sock on Pocket Explorer connecting to my Ubuntu pc, and Ubuntu establishing a ppp connection, what do I have? [07:02] god i love google [07:03] joshJ: samba? [07:03] Fezzler: no [07:03] i think it's just an internet forwarding type thing [07:03] it goes stereo with cider [07:03] i'm not very familiar with ppp [07:03] JoshJ: Well how do CE devices "see" windows file systems? [07:03] as NTFS [07:03] hey guys can anyone have a link for intall cairo-dock? [07:04] JoshJ: Ubuntu have NTSF? [07:04] samba is for networked file systems [07:04] (and to windows, it's "SMB") [07:04] Fezzler: NTFS is a file system, you don't use it to transfer files [07:05] so unless you can mount the palm's hard drive as a NTFS drive in Ubuntu that's not relevant [07:05] (if you can, that's a pretty easy way to transfer stuff) [07:05] JoshJ: Well, when a CE device is connected to WIN98, the device is mounted and you can drag n drop files [07:05] hey guys can anyone tell me a link for install cairo-dock? [07:05] Fezzler: it's possible, check ntfs-config and see if it finds a NTFS drive that matches your palm [07:05] JoshJ: this is interesting [07:06] JoshJ: Now? [07:06] Has anyone here got their wiimotes working? [07:06] Fezzler: if it's plugged up, sure [07:06] timfrost: I'm already using the latest kubuntu-restricted-extras (I'm on 7.10)... Any other ideas? [07:07] JoshJ: As an example I have taken the program package 'debian-archive-keyring'. I cannot extract half as much information when using Synaptics as you suggested compared with apt-cache show debian-archive-keyring. [07:07] JoshJ: Where do I find ntfs-config, command line? [07:07] hi. i can't play yahoo chess on opera. i'm using gutsy and opera 9.25. [07:07] it's a program [07:07] you probably have to install it [07:07] sudo apt-get install ntfs-config, then run it via command line or alt-f2 [07:07] JoshJ: GNOME menu item or command line app? [07:07] it's in the gnome menu for me [07:07] hello [07:08] Hey guys can anyone tell me a link for install cairo-dock? [07:08] :) [07:09] i ve a problem, i m using the last stable ubuntu for programing LAMP but i ve no access to internet with this computer, so i need the pakage to install apache and co but how I can resolve dependency ? [07:09] RoshanK: Is VLC just another ripper? [07:09] alfermp: http://www.gnome-dock.org/trac [07:09] adamonline46: if the links ubotu suggested don't help, then I have no ideas. I run Gnome, and don't use the PC for audio or video :-( [07:09] alfermp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=302570 <-- circa last year though [07:09] Alchera, The requested URL /trac was not found on this server. [07:09] timfrost: That's ok, I understand. Thank you anyway! [07:10] how can I find out which driver I use for my wifi Atheros card [07:10] how do i call ubotu for info? [07:10] tk u JoshJ [07:10] rich1: do !subject [07:10] ie, !wifi or !flash [07:10] !yahoo [07:10] Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:10] !opera [07:10] opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [07:10] !msg [07:10] Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude. [07:11] urgh [07:11] tx, joshj. [07:11] I'm trying to install some packages and there seems to be a collision in some files. That is that they are trying to touch the exact same file. How can I get apt to not treat this like an error. [07:11] !atheros [07:11] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [07:11] I realize that this might be bad in general, but for these packages it won't be an issue. [07:11] Who knows about crack the router? [07:11] SJrX: you can do force, but you're better off trying to solve the problem [07:12] Who knows about crack the router? === mors1 is now known as morsk [07:12] ElFwTer: why are you asking [07:12] alfermp: if ound this also >> https://developer.berlios.de/projects/cairo-dock/ [07:12] !ask | ElFwTer [07:12] JoshJ how do I do that with apt? === morsk is now known as morst [07:12] ElFwTer: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [07:13] perfect tk u Alchera [07:13] :) [07:13] how can i resolve dependency on my laptop without internet connection ? [07:15] apt-get probably has a pretend feature [07:15] SJrX: you'll need to use dpkg and --force-conflicts, i think [07:15] JoshJ: ntfs-config not installed. If I install it, will it confict with my Samba/SMB settings? [07:15] Fezzler: no, it shouldn't [07:16] shouldn't but could? [07:16] I'm a bit curious. I reformated my Desktop and I'm yet to install an OS; can I set up two partitions and set up XP on one install and Ubuntu on the other? [07:16] i don't think it even touches smb stuff [07:16] Kuroachia: yeah [07:16] !dualboot [07:16] Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [07:17] Excellent, one other quick question. When I do boot up my system will it prompt me for the OS each time? === stylus_ is now known as stylus [07:17] yes === nick__ is now known as nrober [07:17] Kuroachia: install windows first [07:18] it'll save you a headache :) [07:18] and read the instructions on that page [07:18] JoshJ: I think I'll go the Ethernet or terminal route tomorrow. [07:18] SJrX: so download the .deb... apt-get install -d packagename then dpkg -i --force-conflicts package [07:18] JoshJ: All right I'll take a look. Hopefully there won't be anything surprising. :) [07:18] I can serve files to my ISP home page and download them from there [07:19] hmmmm no it's not a package conflict its files that get touched by it. [07:19] Hmmmm [07:19] damn KDE packages [07:19] SJrX: do man dpkg and look under the --force- options [07:19] hmmm yeah I know that, I was hoping to do this with apt since there is a bunch and I don't want to download a crap load of debs. [07:19] overwrite may do what you want, breaks may do what you want, i'm not sure [07:19] JoshJ: seems odd that transfering files via serial port is so tough. I do it with my old Tandy Model 100 on all sorts of devices [07:20] Fezzler: i'm sure it's actually quite easy, it's just that i don't know how to do it >_< [07:20] JoshJ: One last. So I have a PPP connection between the two devices but no software to communicate? [07:20] i don't think i've plugged ANYTHING into a serial port in upwards of 5 years... [07:21] Fezzler: it's likely that you do (or that it's in the repositories, anyway) and just don't know what it is :/ [07:21] ok. i went through the comm help page for opera and still can't play yahoo chess in opera. the applet loads then goes gray. anyone have any ideas? [07:21] hey guys..anyone in here use fedora? [07:22] I'm in xfce and my panels aren't showing and I can't bring up the panels manager. How can I kill/fix this? [07:23] Is there a good website for infomation on ... irc? I need to find some networks and channels - particularly an chanell for xbox. === mawe is now known as MAWEBOT [07:23] BubblegumTate just run xfce-panel in the terminal - you can add it to the startup programs. [07:23] sankyuu [07:24] Fezzler: For serial comms, ppp gives you an IP stack, but x/y/z modem may be better - these may be what the Tandy used === MAWEBOT is now known as mawe [07:24] dirkg3nt1y: umm, it doesn't seem to be there? [07:24] dirkg3nt1y: does irssi have a grep-like command? [07:25] doh, uh what is that xfce-panel? or the terminal app? [07:25] if so, just hop on a random IRC server and do /list and grep for "xbox" [07:25] JoshJ, I think it does, I've just started it. [07:25] you may want to do like /list 10 or /list 50 so you don't get 1000 channels :p [07:25] can anyone here help with opera? [07:26] BubblegumTate: if nothing is coming up, you can save your work and just press ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X [07:26] I am fix it [07:26] it's called xfce4-panel [07:26] thanks [07:27] ... that sounds a bit sarky now that I read it back, but in fact it was genuine [07:27] Hmmmm on second thought I really shouldn't have forced that [07:28] SJrX: what'd i say about forcing? :) [07:29] :P [07:29] yeah [07:29] I've gotten out of worse [07:29] I hate KDE 4 [07:30] how do i use grep with the /list command? [07:30] same thing i told the other guy, i have no idea how irssi's grep works [07:31] ack [07:31] i hath been ping'd [07:31] * Casey slaps Thecks around a bit with a large trout [07:31] or maybe #ubuntu was [07:31] either way, twas weird. silly mirc [07:31] you could also log the /list and grep the log file normally *shrug* [07:32] Thecks: ! [07:32] Corporeal: it's not mirc, it's Thecks doing a ping on everyone ;[ [07:32] i thought so. weird. [07:32] holy crap. 19 second ping. [07:32] =[ [07:32] WHOA [07:32] * JoshJ groans [07:32] quit fooling around! [07:32] wow thats too much pinging. [07:32] im never doing that again [07:33] does anyone know if its possible to button map with cwiid? [07:33] JoshJ: Ubuntu=Minicom HP=Fake dial command with numbers as 000-000-000 Fired right up [07:33] My bad, sorry :S [07:33] Fezzler: lol [07:33] JoshJ: Tomorrow I try file exchanges [07:33] Fezzler: have fun :) [07:35] wow [07:37] quick question... if I have 32-bit Ubuntu installed, whats the easiest method of upgrading to 64 bit? Total reinstall? [07:40] Hi all! Installed build-essential. but can't find stdio.h in /usr/include. Any clue? [07:41] has anyone had problems with ubunt 7.10 live disk on amd systems with ati video cards? [07:41] can't find stdio? that'd definitely not a good thing [07:41] qwerty121: sudo updatedb; locate stdio.h [07:42] qwerty121: do you have the headers and -dev files installed? [07:42] marx2k: afaik, yes. You'll have to reinstall [07:43] Myritti: dunno. How can i find out? [07:43] marx2k: Correct - you can add 32-bit support to a 64-bit environment, but a full re-install is needed to convert from one to the other [07:44] timfrost: damn. ok, thanks :) Any idea how stable the 64 bit is nowadays? [07:44] noshutdown I installed from the latest kubuntu a few days ago and my gfx is ati, I had so few problems I feel kind of cheated :( [07:44] qwerty121: what are you trying to compile anyway? [07:44] Myritti: C [07:44] qwerty121: what app? [07:45] Myritti: i am trying to compile c programs. Your code gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49664/ But should not it be in /usr/include instead of /usr/include/bits? [07:48] with gcc? [07:48] yap [07:48] Not to interrupt but another question if anyone has an answer. My laptop has been having trouble playing DVD's now that I have installed ubuntu and I'm wondering if it might be due to my videocard or my diskdrive? I've tried several DVD's and they all give me a sort of pixelated look (have a screenshot if you're wondering). Any recommendations? Like I said, there was no problem when I was using the factory pre-installed os&drivers. [07:48] qwerty121: it is in /usr/include [07:48] Kuroachia: have you installed the usual medibuntu stuff yet? [07:49] but you saw the output of locate stdio.h? [07:49] yeah? [07:49] it says it *is* in /usr/include [07:49] !medibuntu | Kuroachia [07:49] Kuroachia: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [07:49] (sorry, I'm headed to sleep now, it's 3 am) [07:50] good nght, hope you get it working [07:50] I need to get to work [07:50] qwerty121: did build-essential install? More significantly, did libc6-dev install (because that is the package containing /usr/include/stdio.h? [07:50] Myritti: isn't it in /usr/include/bits/ [07:50] timfrost: no, i dint. can you gimme the code [07:50] yes, it's there too [07:51] me, work. ciao [07:51] Myritti: oops! i am sorry. I missed it [07:52] why not just use apt qwerty121? [07:52] qwerty121: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev. Should have been installed by 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' [07:52] tanx, timfrost [07:53] qwerty121: good luck [07:53] ciaoo [07:53] timfrost: it's already installed [07:53] ci sono italiani qua? [07:53] timfrost, could you help me set azureus as the app that opens .torrent files? [07:53] My mp3 player is often times not recognized by my system. Can someone steer me? [07:54] m0r0^ what mp3 player do you have? [07:54] RCA [07:54] RoshanK, Opal [07:54] qwerty121: there muist be other dependencies that you are missing. What are you trying to build? [07:54] RoshanK, it recognizes and functions perfectly well, sometimes. [07:55] ci sono italiani qua? [07:55] !it BoyBs [07:55] Sorry, I don't know anything about it boybs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [07:55] !it | BoyBs [07:55] BoyBs: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! [07:56] BoyBs: ci non può essere [07:56] timfrost: please take a look at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49665/ i am a n00b when it comes to C :( [07:56] m0r0^ well i not sure for RCA mp3 players but what i did for my creative zen vision m was first to update its firmware (you would get it from the manufacturer's site if any, i had to update firmware through windows) and then i installed gnomad2 through synaptic [07:56] RoshanK: I don't use torrents [07:56] timfrost do you know how i can set specific app to handle a type of file? [07:57] RoshanK, go to properties of the file u want to use [07:58] ogre, thank you [07:58] RoshanK, no problem :) [07:58] hey, does anyone know how i can disable only the speakers on my laptop ? [07:59] Silver_Fox: you probably want to enable jacksense? so when you plug headphones in the speakers stop? [07:59] antixpaul, OMG YEAS!!!! [08:01] right click the volume icon in your tray and open the mixer, there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense [08:01] antixpaul, sorry bout that, YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT THO!?>!?! how!~? [08:01] Hey all! Anyone had any luck with ATI X300 and dual head with different resolutions? [08:01] English help wanted. Could an owner of an English Ubuntu 7.10 release please nopaste the output of 'apt-cache show debian-archive-keyring'. [08:02] find it Silver_Fox? [08:02] qwerty121: The main error is because of the quote characters - single quote (') is for ONE CHARACTER while doube quotes (") is for a string [08:03] antixpaul, what? did u send me a link? i loged out by accedent [08:03] has anyone been able to successfully connect to their TI calc with TILP? [08:03] Hi all, what is the best SVN with GUI to install on gnome? [08:03] 08:01 < antixpaul> right click the volume icon in your tray and open the mixer, there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense [08:03] Hey all! Anyone had any luck with ATI X300 and dual head with different resolutions? [08:04] the mixer you have will depend on whether you're using gnome or kde, in kde it's called KMix [08:04] gkasinath: what version of ubuntu are you using? [08:04] how do I set vim to undo last few commands I did, its defaulting to 1 history line only now [08:05] hola [08:05] necesito ayuda [08:06] !es | nina-palma [08:06] nina-palma: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. [08:06] que ayuda queres? === celsi is now known as FUJIKO [08:06] gkasinath: I think in Gutsy, you can just open up the Screen and Graphics Preferences and configure dual-head with a GUI window [08:06] soy muy novata en esto [08:06] no pude instalar el grub [08:06] nina-palma: Es necessario hablar in Engles aqui. [08:06] lo siento [08:07] Jeffgr, I tried that and it didnt work. I have also tried a couple of howtos from ubuntuforums.org with not much luck. [08:07] Jeffgr, I m running Gutsy btw. [08:07] gkasinath: do you have the restricted ATI drivers? [08:07] qwerty121: The main error is because of the quote characters - single quote (') is for ONE CHARACTER while doube quotes (") is for a string. You need to use the correct quotes. [08:08] yes, I downloaded that via the restricted driver manager. I also tried the driver (catalyst) from ATI, whats the difference between them btw? [08:09] Jeffgr, sorry I forgot to highlite you on my previous response which is: yes, I downloaded that via the restricted driver manager. I also tried the driver (catalyst) from ATI, whats the difference between them btw? [08:10] gkasinath: i don't really know, i have an nvidia card, but hold on i'm looking some stuff up for you [08:10] qwerty121_: the example you cited needs double quotes (") because it is a string ("Hi!") [08:10] antixpaul, So, how do i get this jacksesne thingy? [08:10] my internet works only when i am on the live cd and not when i'm on ubuntu proper [08:10] Jeffgr, okie.. I have already tried: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174&highlight=ATI+X300+dual+head and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=592016&highlight=ATI+X300+dual+head and am about to try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1773710 [08:10] are you using gnome or kde luke_ ? [08:11] er, i duno, gnome i think. [08:11] Wait, compiz [08:11] fusion [08:11] antixpaul, gnome [08:12] gkasinath: x.org has some beta driver for R300 [08:12] gkasinath: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300_Portal here is info about your card.. [08:13] gkasinath: sorry, i don't think i'm the best at helping you with this.. i don't have an ATi card :-/ [08:13] thanks for that mate, I ll give it a shot too. [08:13] luke_: you should have a volume icon in your system tray? if you open it and go to the "mixer" there should be a switches tab with the option to enable jacksense [08:13] luke_: I'm using KDE at the moment so I can't check [08:13] antixpaul, nope, nothing called jacksense === orion1337 is now known as hotsauce_drinker [08:13] Jeffgr, thanks again mate, you have pointed me to a direction I wasnt looking, thats a lot of help! :) [08:13] gkasinath: no problem [08:14] Jeffgr, do you know the difference between the ATI driver from ATI, DRI, VESA and MergedFB ones? [08:14] antixpaul, is it called off hook? [08:15] antixpaul, isent there a way to just disable the laptop speakers? [08:16] moin [08:18] :0 [08:18] :) [08:19] gkasinath: sorry the late response, if you are still there i can tell you [08:19] jeffgr: the vesa driver you don't want because that is like a generic thing [08:20] gkasinath: the vesa driver you don't want because that is like a generic thing [08:20] okie [08:20] jeffgr, okie. So no to VESA [08:21] gkasinath: DRI allows you to do 3d accelerated stuff i think, you can read more about it here: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ [08:21] luke_: not tht I know of, I've always used jacksense [08:21] Jeffgr, yup, reading that. [08:22] gkasinath: MergedFB seems like what you want.. it says it allows for dual heads [08:22] gkasinath: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB [08:22] jeffgr, okie.. I havent tried MergedFB yet I am going to try it in a moment. [08:23] gkasinath: good luck [08:24] jeffgr, on my desktop, which was running Windoze till I pulled it out and installed Ubuntu (I am very impressed with Ubuntu, which I have been using on my notebook since 6.06), I could have the task bar give separate list of windows. Can the same be done w/ ubuntu mergedfb? watdya reckon? [08:25] gkasinath: i'm pretty sure you can.. [08:25] gkasinath: so you want it to span on to both screens as one bar? [08:26] I had a problem installing ubuntu from alternative cd [08:26] when it gets to the point scanning apt mirror it freezes [08:26] so I keep pulling out of installation at that point [08:26] Jeffgr, well, I dont want it to span both screens as one bar. Infact I want both screens to be independent w/ different desktop wallpaper and gamma settings. [08:27] antixpaul, will it fix my problems if i switch to kde? [08:27] gkasinath: okay, well you can actually do that pretty easily [08:28] gkasinath: when you make the task bar, just set it to show windows from only the current workspace [08:28] hello everybody... is the tracker-tool working with ubuntu 6.10? for me (on 3 different machines, some in english, some in german) it does not work, i.e. when I search something, I get "some results" , but in the details window, there is nothing shown. [08:28] gkasinath: (it is by default), so i guess you just need to have both monitors on separate workspaces [08:29] ubuntu's alternative installer's broken [08:29] hey all [08:29] antixpaul, can you help me with this please? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=620928&goto=nextnewest i'm a noob and i think this might work. [08:30] i'm trying to apply a ppf patch with applyppf and when i enter the command it tells me the file doesn't exist even though i can see it when i do a ls of the directory and also inside of the file manager, anyone know why it says it doesn't exist? [08:30] frederick85: have you verified the cd to make sure it was burned correctly? [08:31] slyder: i think what you need to do is ./filename instead of just filename [08:31] Jeffgr, uumm.. well you lost me entirely mate. Here is what I have.. I have two monitors, one a Benq 202W (22" widescreen) which is to be my primary and I have a Dell 1907FP as secondary. The pri has 1680x1050 resolution and the secondary should have 1280x1024 resolution. Problem 1: The resolution of secondary is not at 1280x1024, although I have set the same in xorg.conf. Problem 2: When I added a new panel to secondary monitor an [08:31] d included the window list thingy, it displays all windows. [08:31] ok i'll give that a try jeffgr [08:31] jeffgr, sorry about the long message. [08:31] !ops | hotsauce_drinker [08:31] hotsauce_drinker: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici! [08:32] jeffgr: no theres a flaw in installer design and when it comes to scanning apt mirror it freezes [08:32] -list [08:32] jeffgr: it doesn't let you specify an apt mirror [08:32] what the heck is hotsaunce_drinker? [08:32] hotsauce_drinker: Don't do that. [08:32] hiho, I wonder why the DesktopCD does not offer full-system encryption upon installation? [08:32] tried the ./filename still says that file doesn't exist === hotsauce_drinker is now known as oooh === oooh is now known as mybad [08:33] slyder: can you tell me the exact command [08:33] luke_: open add/remove programs then search for "gnome alsa mixer" [08:34] antixpaul, installed that, i just need help compiling the other things [08:34] gkasinath: okay, so on the workspace manager, do the workspaces look extra wide? [08:34] jeffgr, yup. :( [08:34] applyppf RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso patch.ppf, this was before trying your ./filename jeffgr [08:35] jeffgr: it is the same with debian, It forces me to use primitive mirrors on installation [08:35] gkasinath: okay so you are spanning displays so it thinks it is one screen basically [08:35] jeffgr: there is no option of networkless installation is there? [08:35] luke_: just "sudo apt-get install alsa-base" [08:35] from alternative [08:35] frederick85: i was just about to say your network card might not be recognized by default [08:35] antixpaul, will that install all the plugins? [08:36] slyder: can you type applyppf --help [08:36] jeffgr: the config for it worked and dhcp worked, problem is scanning the apt mirror doesn't so perhaps server is down [08:36] luke_: I'm not sure but I doubt you need them [08:36] jeffgr: i'd like a minimal ubuntu installation without network, so I can configure it to a local server and do it myself later, thats the fun of it [08:36] antixpaul, doesent work :( [08:37] jeffgr, hhmm... okie.. I do have two device, monitor and screen sections in xorg.conf to represent each of them. [08:37] yea i did that jeffgr but file help also does not exist haha [08:37] frederick85: maybe so, try installing it with the network cable unplugged, i'm pretty sure you don't need internet to install it [08:37] luke_: did you open the gnome alsa mixer? [08:37] slyder: do you have applyppf installed? [08:37] antixpaul, ya [08:38] gkasinath: there are some different modes, try a different one, i can't recall them off the top of my head, i'll look them up in a sec [08:38] jeffgr: I did and it kept asking me to configure my network card, very rude installer... [08:39] frederick85: that is pretty lame, you can't use the regular installer? [08:39] yea i'm pretty sure i do since it gives me this with the copyright info, ApplyPPF v2.0 for Linux/Unix (c) Icarus/Paradox [08:39] File ./RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso does not exist. === mybad is now known as DumbOP1 [08:39] frederick85, did you report a bug to launchpad.net? === Krontab is now known as Kr0ntab [08:39] slyder: just run the command applyppf --help with nothing else [08:40] tried that jeffgr, ApplyPPF v2.0 for Linux/Unix (c) Icarus/Paradox [08:40] File --help does not exist. [08:41] when i open the sourcecode it does tell you what to type in for the command which i did but it still says my iso file doesn't exist even though it's there [08:41] luke_: the first option down the bottom in gnome alsa mixer is Headphone Jack Sense? [08:41] antixpaul, nope.. [08:41] slyder: you know the file names are case sensitive? can you get it to finish the file for you with tab-completion? [08:42] slyder, do this: ls -al RE* does it say that there is a RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso [08:42] yea that's what i've been doing typing in the first 3 letters in caps and hitting tab to complete each time i've tried jeffgr [08:43] indeed it does ompaul, -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 4674820096 2007-12-26 07:22 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso [08:43] luke_: are you running 7.10? I have gnome alsa mixer open and the first option is Headphone JackSense ^^ [08:44] antixpaul, yup, gusty === chaky_ is now known as chaky [08:45] antixpaul, MIX, CALLER ID, EXTERNAL AMP, OFFHOOK. those are the only options [08:46] slyder: don't you need the patch.ppf file in the same directory? [08:46] yea it's there too but it's saying the iso file doesn't exist not the patch file [08:46] gkasinath: there are different modes, at least in nvidia like twinview and xinerama, i don't know what they are in ATi though :[ [08:47] and from the source code it says to use this command, Usage: ApplyPPF \n"), which i've been using, except i named mine applyppf all in lowercase when compiling [08:47] slyder: the permissions look all messed up, also why it is being owned by root:plugdev [08:48] well it's on a ntfs drive and that's how ubuntu set it up i haven't messed with the default actions [08:48] slyder: oohhh, try copying it to your home directory and doing it there [08:49] wish i could but i don't have enough hard drive space in my home directory to fit this thing heh [08:49] slyder: you need to have write access, get ntfs-3g [08:50] well i've been writing stuff to the ntfs drive for a couple of days now but let me check to make sure i have ntfs-3g installed [08:50] jeffgr, hhmm okie... I ll try my best and if I have any success write a story about it on ubuntu forums! :) \ [08:50] ......... [08:51] gkasinath: when you followed the tutorials on the ubuntu formus, did they not work at all? [08:51] slyder: the file is being owned by root, try doing sudo chown yourusername:yourusername RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso [08:51] yea checked the synaptic package manager ntfs-3g is installed [08:51] k i'll give it a go jeffgr [08:54] i ran that and it still appears as plugdev [08:55] slyder: try sudo chmod 777 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso [08:56] slyder: then try the applyppf thing [08:56] jeffgr, not really no. I am stuck with the two problems I listed before and the mouse cursor is garbled square block on the secondary monitor, and the 3D fancy stuff doesnt work. [08:56] jeffgr, brb have to get the phone. [08:56] when i list i still get this -rwxrwx--- 1 root plugdev 4674820096 2007-12-26 07:22 RESIDENT_EVIL_EXTINCTION.iso [08:57] and still says it doesn't exist when i run applyppf [08:57] slyder: try sudo applyppf etc :D [08:57] i wonder if their is anything else to apply ppf patches i couldn't find anything but this when i was searching [08:57] and not much documentation about it or how to use it [08:58] lol "applyppf thing" is soooooo DALnet [08:58] heh already gave sudo applyppf a go when i was trying to change the permissions === celsi is now known as SIZUKA [08:58] anything better for applying them Alchera? [08:59] it was the end bit .. was amusing .. i use "thingie" myself lol [09:01] fgdfgr [09:02] well i guess their is no real solution to this problem of mine if only i had more space free on my home drive but thanks for all the help jeffgr [09:02] co jest [09:03] I have a weird problem in kaffeine. When I´m watching a dvd and alt+tab to another program and come back everything inside the windows starts to shake while playing. It also continues when I pause. It sometimes stops after a few seconds and other times doesn't is there any way to fix it? [09:03] hello [09:04] can anyone help on a server config I'm looking to do? [09:06] majikins, I can't at this stage but the channel might be able to if you expressed the objective fully on one line, the reason I can't is I am rubbish at telepathy ;-) [09:06] haha [09:07] Hi... will a deb with 2006.2 as its version overwrite 2006.1 (just checking :) )? If so will the old version be removed or will the new one just overwrite it? [09:07] uchazco, yes / removed [09:07] I'm in South africa and looking to buy components here - looking to do a file server for 25 users [09:07] majikins, how is that one line? [09:08] Ah good :) I'm making some .debs so just wanted to be certain how they work :) [09:08] the full problem on one line [09:08] greeting [09:08] greets [09:08] anybody can help me? i have a 'mounting' problem [09:08] i m free, and anybody? [09:09] syc_, tell your problem than asking.. [09:10] how does one kill a process? [09:10] I have an mp3 player device that is sometimes recognized by my system, and works great...and sometimes it ISNT recognized. And when it is recognized I have to fiddle with turning it on, off etc. === gouki_ is now known as gouki [09:11] get NEW CABLE? [09:11] livingdaylight - the eaisiest way is to use the system monitor under System->Admin [09:11] sorry for caps [09:11] how can i mount a partition in read-write mode for user? [09:11] Does anyone know why amarok would be working then stop..its giving me this error evertime i click on a station now No suitable demux plugin. This often means that the file format is not supported. or no plugin installed [09:12] I googled it but no luck [09:12] sigra: is it an mms:// adderess? [09:13] juss its http address [09:13] sigra: hmm, it may mean you need the restricted packages installed... [09:13] i've tried to add 'rw,user' on my /etc/fstab but it didnt work [09:13] !restricted | sigra [09:13] sigra: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [09:14] syc_: have you looked at !fstab pages? [09:14] k thanks..reading now [09:14] jussi01: i have read it [09:15] !tab | sigra [09:15] sigra: You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [09:16] tab sigra [09:16] tab|sigra [09:16] The tab button [09:16] /dev/hda3 /media/data2 auto user,rw 0 0 <== is this correct ? [09:16] that my fstab line [09:17] hmm [09:17] how change my nick [09:17] /nick newnick === sigra is now known as SigraTyberian [09:17] ok [09:17] thank you [09:18] np [09:18] SIZUKA, got a connection problem? [09:18] extra codecs are greyed out on my add/remove program..says i need them. [09:18] how do I change the permissions for a disk? [09:18] gago [09:21] anyone having ipw2100 issues with a clean install of Gutsy? [09:21] How do I change permissions for a disk? [09:22] !repeat | Volvagia356 [09:22] Volvagia356: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [09:22] Volvagia356, what kind of disk [09:22] harddisk [09:22] how do i open new tabs in x-chat? [09:23] Volvagia356, if I asked the same question again, would you like to tell us stuff about formats which partition etc [09:23] Volvagia356, what kind of disk [09:23] SATA EXT3 [09:23] sdb1 [09:24] hi someone know italian channel ? [09:24] Hello. I'm newbie and lost. Please help. cant unrar files whit any program! [09:24] jago: XChat>New>pick a tab [09:24] !it | xecov [09:24] xecov: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! [09:24] dapi: sudo aptitude install unrar [09:24] grazie [09:24] malnilon, mine doesn't have that [09:25] jago, what xchat are you running? [09:25] troy_s: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [09:25] probably the newest one [09:25] it looks different than the one I had on FC3 [09:26] Volvagia356: you cant mount your disk rw ? [09:26] Volvagia356, so you look at what it is mounted as, for the purposes of this exercise lets call it /mount/mydisk then we could chown the mydisk sudo chown -R yourusername:yourusername /mount/mydisk ---- warning do not do this on a paritition like / or /usr that would break it in very new and not so interesting ways - you would need a live CD to rescue your data and then a fresh install would be fastest [09:26] jago, you're probably running xchat-gnome [09:26] I skrewed up bigtime guys. I really need some help now. I folowed these derections http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332472&highlight=snd_hda_intel second post ) and ended up making it so i dont have ANY sound on my computer now, cant even open up volume control. [09:26] dapi: run that then [09:26] jago, what I'd do is open up Synaptic, enable your universe repository, and install the regular old xchat package rather than xchat-gnome [09:27] I am already on a LiveCD [09:27] how do i get it back to normal?! [09:27] =D [09:27] It's my linux partition [09:27] will do, thanks man [09:28] please help mehh! [09:28] hiho. How do I change the names of the actions in the context-/right-click-menu? for examples the names in the "open with..." sub-menu ? [09:28] I'll die without music :( [09:28] jago, no problem, took me a few minutes to figure that one out first time I tried Ubuntu :) [09:28] oh, haha :) [09:29] OMG [09:29] ! [09:30] Volvagia356, what exactly is the problem when you boot the box in an ordinary way, you are making it hard for us to work out what it is you actually want to do, can you give us a few lines on it please [09:30] someone please help. Please? [09:30] See here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=637770 [09:30] hi [09:30] in italian channel i cant find help [09:31] hi [09:31] i have some problems with firefox [09:31] d9ont look here [09:31] noone is even listening [09:31] i try [09:31] ok [09:31] i'll continue trying [09:31] HELP! [09:31] Silver_Fox: please stop [09:31] if i do not start firefox without root perimission [09:31] ok [09:31] Just kidding [09:32] HELP! please [09:32] i cant open page in java [09:32] because java jvm does not start [09:32] anybody knows how to install NVU on Gutsy? [09:32] katyush-free use kompozer, nvu isn't being supported anymore [09:32] what us NVU [09:33] xecov, what you wana do is go here http://rvb.roosterteeth.com/home.php [09:33] =-D [09:33] =/ [09:33] my cadr reader doesn't work. it's texas instrument. what shall i do? [09:33] =( [09:33] Volvagia356, okay, do this please, sudo fdisk -l katyush-free: sudo apt-get install nvu [09:34] Why would my system sometimes recognize my mp3 player, and sometimes not? [09:34] Volvagia356, for every linux partition you have do this sudo fsck -y /dev/WhatEver << then try a reboot [09:34] bmbernie, doesnt exist [09:34] mOrO^: bad cable maybe [09:35] katyush-free, what is NVU? [09:35] bmbernie, my mp3 player says, USB Connected [09:35] is ogg/theora alive or is it dead? and if so, what's a good alternative ? [09:35] OK, I have a heap of problems with my newly installed copy of Ubuntu... would someone be able to help me solve them? [09:35] alive [09:35] malakhi, its like a thin version of dreamweaver...do you know of any linux alternatives? [09:35] katyush-free: what repositories do you have enabled [09:35] bmbernie, multi and uni... [09:35] Volvagia356, whatever you do - don't turn off until you have all this done - if it complains about superblock info you have a suspect hard drive but a bit of googling should help with finding the info you need to get to the point where you can look at other superblocks (there are several) [09:36] KompoZer [09:36] bmbernie, can you apt-get NVU? [09:36] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49667/ [09:36] Ok, i'm asking nicly now. I just need some good old fasion help. Alright.. Here I go.. I folowed these derections http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=332472&highlight=snd_hda_intel second post ) and ended up making it so i dont have ANY sound on my computer now, cant even open up volume control. I really need help geting my sound back online, I would appreciate any help at all. Thanks and god bless you all [09:37] Firstly, everytime I try to install an application via the Add/Remove Applications program and I keep getting the error message "The list of applications is not available". [09:37] Tilllinux, then why does a friend of mine have all the trouble in the world installing the xiphQT library and is there no easy installer ? and i find a page with a list of unresolved bugs like this: https://trac.xiph.org/query?groupdesc=1&group=status&component=XiphQT+-+QuickTime+Components&order=priority ? === hkBst_ is now known as hkBst [09:37] I keep on clicking Refresh but it still doesnt let me install anything. [09:37] =/ [09:37] Volvagia356, so all you have to do it on is: /dev/sdb1 [09:38] katyush-free, do you do much complicated html? If not, Id download the old Netscape Composer [09:38] katyush-free: according to http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-nvu-the-web-authoring-system you just need multiverse and universe [09:38] mOrO^, i need something simple and graphic [09:38] Silver_Fox, I'd help, but I don't really know anything about alsa configuration [09:39] katyush-free, actually its called Icecape Composer...it is in the repositories. [09:39] bmbernie, i read this article but apt-get says it doesnt exists [09:39] katyush-free, Yes, this Icecape Composer is very simple [09:39] it says that it's clean : /dev/sdb1: clean, 114808/9601024 files, 1061068/19183610 blocks [09:40] tim167: I don't no xiphQT... is that some kind of quicktime replacement? [09:40] malnilion, great, thanks a million! Neather do I. [09:40] mOrO^, thanks ,I'm apt-geting Kompozer suggested by Tilllinux, then i"ll try icecape [09:40] Tilllinux, its the component necessary to read ogg/theora on OSX [09:40] malnilion, I just need to undo all those steps the guy posted [09:40] katyush-free, You will find Icecape Composer much easier than Kompozer [09:40] never mind everyone, i fixed it [09:40] yeah i don't have access to nvu. maybe it is depreciated. [09:41] yes, it is. kompozer is "a sequel" to nvu ;) [09:41] Silver_Fox, was your sound working before? [09:42] malnilion, yeah, just when i pluged in headphones, the laptop speakers wouldent turn off [09:43] Tilllinux, the reason i'm asking is i wonder if i should continue to encode all my video in ogg/theora, since someone on #mplayer mentioned it is 'broken' and I shouldnt use it...but the thing is i have this handy java plugin to put ogg/theora videos on webpages. so i wonder if ogg/theora is still actively maintained or developed... [09:43] do turning on restricted drivers (the firmware) have small possibility on making the wifi unstable? [09:43] Tilllinux, so Kompozer is nvu? [09:43] Volvagia356, is it running okay or not? [09:43] tim167: I've been looking for a java ogg plugin :) what is it called? [09:43] I hadn't rebooted yet, should I do so now? [09:44] katyush-free: it's using nvu's code, I think [09:44] Tilllinux, cortado i beleive [09:44] Silver_Fox, well, something I'm noticing about this guide is that if I recall correctly, it's telling you to install drivers that are older than what should have come with Gutsy [09:44] Tilllinux, did you try it? did you try ice-cape? [09:45] Tilllinux, http://www.flumotion.net/cortado/ [09:45] Volvagia356, no do that with the live CD the fsck thing [09:45] no, katyush-free :) [09:45] malnilion, really [09:45] hello [09:45] ok - thank you all.... [09:45] Volvagia356, sudo fsck -y /dev/sdb1 [09:45] I've done fsck, it says it's clean [09:45] Silver_Fox, 1.0.14 final was released a while back and I'm pretty sure was in Gutsy [09:46] Volvagia356, so then lets try a reboot [09:46] ok [09:46] I just installed the linux32 package, and after reboot, I don't have any tty-consoles and some system utilities seem to be gone (the program more for example). how do I solve that? :P [09:46] Volvagia356, I now have to run will be back in 2 to 3 hours [09:46] Volvagia356, if you get badly stuck ping me when you see me [09:46] ok [09:47] I'm gonna save this couversation to refer to it later [09:47] Silver_Fox, have you tried rebooting perchance? [09:47] thanks tim167 [09:47] malnilion, brb, i'll do that [09:48] Tilllinux y/w [09:49] My synaptic touchpad is spuriously creating middle click events (e.g. without pressing L+R buttons) [09:49] anyone have any suggestions for identifying/resolving the problem? [09:50] nothing different... [09:51] Silver_Fox: what did you change ? [09:51] Silver_Fox, shoot. You had the same laptop as this fellow? [09:51] ya [09:51] if you have wine installed and you double click a .exe file that doesn't need to be installed and just runs from a folder does it just automatically run with no problems and work? [09:51] how do i Enable Internal Modem from within the BIOS [09:51] ah! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470274 [09:51] osfameron, change the taptime [09:51] it's registering 2 fingers as a middle click [09:52] Silver_Fox, I can't really help you there, different BIOS behave differently [09:52] o [09:52] * osfameron checks out synaptic to see if he can disable it [09:53] I'm having trouble with my N-draft Linksys card. I'm dual booting XP and Ubuntu. In XP I installed the device drivers/software that came with it and it apparently sees my router (and apparently connects) but doesn't connect to the interwebs like it claims (connection strength 90%); in ubuntu the card doesn't even register as a device. I have a WMP300N if that helps at all. [09:53] slyder: in theory, yes. [09:54] I think i no where i messed things up. When i did step Step 3) [09:54] vi /etc/modprobe.d/options [09:54] Here I wrote: [09:54] options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd [09:54] save and quit. I ran vi /etc/modprobe.d/options in the terminal and imediatly paisted and entered options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd. I think that skrewed it all up. [09:54] are there any lightweighted encoding conversion library available? lighter than libiconv with non GPL licence? [09:55] Silver_Fox, that's possible [09:55] do we have mozilla-suite in our repos ,if so what's it called? [09:55] so how do i fix it? necause i know thats what i did [09:55] Silver_Fox, you might try model=default or model=laptop [09:55] sherry_zhang: what is wrong with gpl ? [09:55] ompual: It you're still there, it didn't work [09:56] just in the terminal? [09:56] bmbernie, oh, we just want code in the public domain. [09:56] bmbernie, nothing wrong:) [09:56] Silver_Fox, Well, no edit that file it told you to edit and change that option === cXeroGlithed is now known as XeroGlitch [09:57] malnilion, what file did u tell me to edit? i forgot, sorry... =/ [09:57] Silver_Fox, /etc/modeprobe.d/options [09:57] katyush-free: there's iceape [09:58] theres nothing there [09:58] Silver_Fox, that's odd [09:58] Silver_Fox, oh I typed the file wrong [09:58] antixpaul, is that similar? same? [09:58] i can't right click on my desktop or open my home folder =/ [09:59] Silver_Fox, /etc/modprobe.d/options [09:59] oh ok [09:59] so just add what u told me to the bottum? [09:59] i have a doubt. i am running a crontab which takes about 10 minutes to execute but it can take longer than that. but i set this crontab to work every 10 minutes. will cron fork two processes incase the previous one hasn't completed? [10:00] Silver_Fox, The guide told you to add "options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd" [10:00] ya i see it there [10:00] why can't i open any folders /cry [10:00] Silver_Fox, then try changing it to model=default or model=laptop [10:01] so that options snd-hda-intel model=default-eapd instead of options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd? [10:01] Silver_Fox, no just "model=default" [10:02] ok [10:02] Silver_Fox, no trailing -eapd :P [10:02] reboot? [10:02] Yeah [10:02] Hopefully that'll do it [10:02] what? [10:02] Fix it at least back to where it was before [10:03] Does anyone know why I can't right click on desktop OR open any folders (the window doesn't even pop up) [10:03] * malnilion would guess nautilus isn't running, jack-desktop [10:03] whats that? [10:03] I don't think I have it installed.. [10:04] jack-desktop, it should be there by default on the default Ubuntu install [10:04] Welcome to "ubuntu.unix-center.net" test server.Use SSH Login! [10:04] malnilion, how do I get it running again? [10:04] never mind, im rebooting [10:04] jack-desktop, does everything else appear normal in gnome? [10:05] yes except i cant right click on desktop [10:06] jack-desktop, I think opening any of the locations in "Places" ought to do it, but I'm not certain [10:06] what is the ubuntu-minimal package for? (i need to purge wpa-supplicant) [10:06] "ubuntu.unix-center.net"is a test server.Use SSH Login!welcome to try [10:06] malnilion, that's what i've been trying for about 5 minutes [10:07] i rebooted and nothings different... [10:07] jack-desktop, I assume you've tried logging out and back in? [10:07] meh i dont want to disrupt the internet connection [10:07] Silver_Fox, damn, I really don't know what else to do [10:07] "ubuntu.unix-center.net"is a test server.Use SSH Login!welcome to try [10:07] Darn [10:07] Damn [10:08] Shit [10:08] Fuck [10:08] poop [10:08] oh well [10:08] no sound for me =0 [10:09] I shall find a cave up in the mountans and live there without my music. [10:09] jack-desktop, so you can open up your file manager but your desktop still isn't behaving normally? [10:09] Silver_Fox, or worse comes to worse, you can reinstall, lol [10:09] i can open the "Places menu" but i cant open any folder window [10:10] i guess that's a "file manager" [10:10] Right [10:10] i cant open it [10:10] Silver_Fox:bad-mannered! [10:10] malnilion, i've done that sooo many times with ubuntu. About 6 [10:10] I know the feeling :P [10:10] tempnic, Up yours fuckwad [10:10] =0 [10:12] Good , everybody! I have a trouble, and i would be glad, if somebody helped me with it. After adding additional memory to my system(512 -> 1024+512) the kernel started to freeze (completely dead, no reaction to NumLock). This happens with an average time of about a hour. Following the advise of a man from #ubuntu, i have performed a memory test: 12 hours of test, no faults. That's the situation! Thanks for reading :) [10:13] gawd, 1k nicks. [10:14] how do I sign in as root [10:14] demonskier: in ibuntu you have to sudo su [10:14] in terminal? [10:15] malnilion, Maybe u misunderstood me on something.. I did step 3 like this. vi /etc/modprobe.d/options in the terminal> paisted this derectly into whatever came up in the terminal options snd-hda-intel model=laptop-eapd>it said Warning or somthing about me changing something important.. Thne boom, i restart, no sound... [10:15] is the netgear wg111 usb wireless adaptor supported in ubuntu? [10:15] hi all :) [10:15] most wireless arent but u can use the diswrapper to use a windows driver [10:16] Silver_Fox, I think I understood. The thing is I now don't think what you did by editing that file was the source of your problems. I think installing the drivers might have been. [10:16] demonskier: that means, my brother is lucky, 'cause his wlan worked outofthebox [10:16] with wpa2 [10:16] demonskier, ah..that's worrying... I haven't bought it yet.. how can I find a list of supported wireless adaptors? [10:16] i gess he is [10:16] Silver_Fox, I don't really know how to undo what you did though :/ [10:17] im a noob to linux and it took me 2 days to set up my wireless [10:17] lesshaste_: with ndiswrapper sure [10:17] !wireless | lesshaste_ [10:17] lesshaste_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [10:18] um i have no idea where to find a list of supported but if u read the forum ndiswrapper works really welll [10:18] malnilion, well how did that deleat all my sound or wtever. I click on volume control now and it says no volume control GStreamer plugins/or devices found [10:18] scguy318, thanks.. I haven't bought it yet... is it risky to rely on ndiswrapper? [10:19] anyone no how i can put folders and files directly into the file system because it isn't letting me [10:19] thx for the tip on how to kill processes via System Monitor. Nice gui... but does someone here know the command line for killing process? [10:19] ummmm leshaste i dono if its risky but from the reports i have read it works quite cconsistently [10:19] try... kill ;D [10:20] Tilllinux, you talking to me? [10:20] !patience [10:20] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [10:20] if i want to kill firefox process? [10:21] !repeat [10:21] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience [10:21] try either: pkill firefox or killall -v firefox [10:21] does ubuntu have tree on the default install ? Just find the root process of firefox and kill that. [10:21] or try killall firefox_bin :) [10:21] Tilllinux, -v or -9 ? [10:22] ah yes, firefox_bin... you'll have to know the name of the process [10:22] just leave out the -v [10:22] Gracias Ubunteros! [10:22] it's firefox-bin btw [10:22] When I remove a print job from the graphical printing manager in GNOME, the job persists even after restarting Ubuntu. Clearing /var/cache/cups/jobs.cache fixed the problem, but how can I make the GUI print manager work as expected? [10:22] viva la revolucion! [10:22] Tilllinux: yea, FreeBSD has it as firefox-bin [10:23] sorry, firefox_bin [10:23] or teh manual build and install. [10:24] rukus, if i had asked this question at freebsd i would have been told to go rtfm... they're a hostile bunch on the whole... not like here [10:24] i want to put tabs inside a html documents. what programme will do that for me? === oddd_ is now known as Oddd [10:25] there used to be such things as "hardware compatibility lists" [10:25] livingdaylight: I'm on holiday :) [10:25] scguy318, the page you sent me looks rather out of date [10:25] ubuntustudio is very unfriendly... I think I'm going to switch to JackLab, as a friend told me, they'd have a "better" community and it concentrates more on the sound editing / music composition [10:25] Someone try and help me. When I switch from the GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs, all I get is a blinking cursor. [10:26] scguy318, "This page describes the setup procedure for the Netgear WG111 (version 1) -- a USB-based wireless dongle -- in Ubuntu 5.04. Though the author tested with the version 1 dongle it was reported that the version 2 dongle also works." [10:26] for example [10:26] rukus, welcome to la isla bonita :D [10:26] if you having hassles with drivers, download and boot a knoppix Cd, write down all the drivers, and then port that to your ubuntu install. [10:26] When I remove a print job from the graphical printing manager in GNOME, the job persists even after restarting Ubuntu. Clearing /var/cache/cups/jobs.cache fixed the problem, but how can I make the GUI print manager work as expected? [10:26] livingdaylight: :) [10:28] malnilion, i did "gksudo nautilus" and it worked [10:28] but now it thinks im logged in as root or something /cry [10:28] FUCK YOU ALL [10:28] THX THX [10:28] Amazing_139460, huh? [10:29] ignore the troll [10:29] !op | Amazing_139460 [10:29] Amazing_139460: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici! [10:29] somebody did'nt get a present. [10:29] To anyone who can assist:  Whenever I switch from my GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs (F2-F6), I only get a blinking cursor.  Any ideas on how to fix this? [10:29] Jamesinator: a wee bit late [10:29] I'm using IRSSI, no name-autocomplete. :P [10:29] rukus, i think it was just a typo... ^^ [10:29] Jamesinator: sure you've got autocomplete [10:29] Jamesinator: i'm prett sure irssi has auto-complete [10:30] does ubuntu's gui run on tty 7 ? [10:30] Jamesinator: Irssi can have ^^ [10:30] Ah well, then I just suck. Everyone happy? [10:30] rukus: yes [10:30] Jamesinator: no :-C [10:30] * Jamesinator gives Myrtti a hug. [10:30] /me hugs Jamesinator back [10:30] I must try this wonderfull thing called ubuntu one day. [10:31] see, wonderful autocomplete [10:31] Myrtti: So I've been told. [10:31] Jamesinator, did you hit the emergency button? LOL [10:31] rukus: you've never tried it? [10:31] IndyGunFreak: I'm a *bsd man. [10:31] rukus: oh ok. [10:31] * Jamesinator sandpapers his fingerprints off, therefore removing any traces of evidence on the "Big Red Op Button" [10:31] and run suse non gui webservers at office. [10:31] rukus, Ubuntu is more than an os... Its a way of life [10:32] and support ubuntu boxes, but after I send them a ssh cert, and I ssh in. === psy_ is now known as psy- [10:33] rukus, i'd use bsd (want to even) if it had something like the ubuntu community around it [10:33] when the system begins to boot I get a message saying cannot allocate region 4 of pci device or something like that? [10:33] Whats the story with these new linux kernels [10:33] livingdaylight: yess, I can imagine that, been doing this for a whil enow. [10:33] the old ones never gave me that [10:33] ubuntu is for desktop clients. [10:33] nice thing is it's easy to support remote. [10:33] rukus: you can install ubuntu without a desktop [10:34] frederick85: get the alternate installer or the server version [10:34] New kernels? [10:34] abhi: i wasn't asking a question === _max is now known as max === max is now known as max739 [10:34] frederick85: sorr [10:34] abhi: my initial question is unrelated to versions [10:35] happens on all versions and gentoo aswell [10:35] rukus, i suppose pc-bsd wants some of the Desktop cake too seeing the success and rise of GNU/Linux on the Desktop in recent years. But they're a long ways away still imo [10:35] I have just installed Ubuntu, I have no internet connection on that box, is it possible to somehow get the mp3 codec to play .mp3 files onto a usb, and install from there? [10:36] iZoom: you mean form a Pc that does have internet ? [10:36] build a package once all the codecs are in ? [10:36] livingdaylight: pc-BSD is pretty dodgy at the moment though. But it's good in some ways [10:36] how do you remove a gnome panel ? I tried right clicking on the panel but only available menu items are "Help and "About Panels" [10:36] to hot, pool time. [10:37] pc-bsd mimicks windows too much [10:37] Well, I am on windows now, I wondered if I could put the files needed for the mp3 codec on a usb and go to the other box and install it form there? [10:37] drgeb: xkill :) [10:37] iZoom: sure can do [10:37] iZoom: its in some gstreamer package [10:37] I'm new to Ubuntu aswell. [10:37] Is there a link to download it? [10:37] problem with xkill is that you have to click somewhere with it to get rid of it. [10:37] drgeb: there should be a "delete this panel' option [10:38] frederick85, i agree... i appreciate their intention in bringing bsd to the masses. But they still seem to have the bsd culture in 'em... === prashanth is now known as kiradi [10:38] IndyGunFreak its not there somehow?? I was expecting this too [10:38] weird [10:38] mavi-: where can I download the file needed for mp3 codec on windows? [10:38] rukus xkill just kills it and it automatically comes back [10:39] Hi all: I've got kind of a strange sound problem. Is anyone willing to try and help me? [10:39] livingdaylight: FreeBSD is a masterpiece and should be respected, They are a little arrogant however towards linux users. [10:39] IndyGunFreak any idea which configuration file handles this ? [10:39] drgeb: not a clue, never had that prob [10:39] livingdaylight: I don't know what you meant by culture though [10:39] gees, how much stuff is in ubuntu's inittab ? [10:40] bonjours a vous tous [10:40] iZoom: let me see what its named [10:40] Hi, I'm using 10.2 and I followed the how-tos about the pdf printer (cups-pdf). It's all setup it seems, and throws no errors, plus cups says the jobs are finished, but I never get a dialog to select where to save my pdf [10:40] and I can't find it anywhere either [10:40] frederick85, i respect FreeBSD but to say they are a little arrogant is an understatement. I came to it with no preconceptions and was made to feel most unwelcome [10:40] jai un petit probleme avec quake3 je nai pas de son snif, jai donné les droit a quake pour qu'il puisse modifier /dev/dsp [10:40] iZoom: did you get your answer? [10:40] JacobSingh... There should be a folder called PDF in you home folder [10:40] No? [10:40] livingdaylight: bsd tends towards minimalist, build what you need, linux tends to bundy everything or as much as possible, just appeals towards different poeple and eviroments. [10:41] iZoom: gstreamer-plugins-ugly [10:41] je suis sous un dell inspiron 6400 et je nai toujours pas de son [10:41] iZoom: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/allpackages [10:41] iZoom: .deb [10:41] iZoom: just google that and download [10:41] iZoom: then download gstreamer-plugins-ugly [10:41] frederick85, by culture i mean what you already touched upon when you said arrogant. I mean an attitude of elitism, hostility, and belligerence [10:41] and just run it once im on ubuntu>? [10:41] yeah [10:41] yes [10:41] quake me dis could not mmap dma buffer [10:41] gobbles414: thanks! Is there anyway to have it ask me where I want to save it? [10:41] ok thanks ill see if i have any problem [10:41] livingdaylight: you think thats bad, try #sco :) [10:41] iZoom: that link i posted, should have the deb file you're looking for. [10:41] To anyone who can assist:  Whenever I switch from my GUI (F7) to any of the CLIs (F2-F6), I only get a blinking cursor.  Any ideas on how to fix this? [10:41] /dev/dsp: input/output error [10:42] livingdaylight: livingdaylight: i know very well what you mean. That is just on #freebsd if i'm right though [10:42] rukus, well, pc-bsd is aiming towards Desktop not minimalist.. but i'm talking about the environment in the community - insular, and snobbish... opposed to welcoming, friendly and helpful [10:42] livingdaylight: FreeBSD is good to learn you just need to ignore the people who are that way [10:42] livingdaylight: the Handbook is exceptional [10:43] gobbles414: whats your sound problem? [10:43] livingdaylight: I suppose, but linux ppl generate for to many queries to deal with when things are busy and you have a lot on your plate. [10:43] JacobSingh: You're welcome. I do not know of any way to "print" to a different location. But you can always create a shortcut of the PDF folder in another location for quicker access [10:43] livingdaylight: /j #ubuntu-au [10:44] actually ignore that typo [10:44] frederick85, the Handbook, yes, they kept pointing to that as if it were the bible or the koran... but i found lots of links in there which were outdated, referring to windows 95 ... so i think it could do with refreshing and updating [10:44] when things like setting up apache 5 with ssl in the gui yast in suse taking a week, and then having to reverese the weeks fiddling and then set up properly. [10:45] guys... i INstalled UBuntu 7.10 on my PC, but the system can't shutdown from "front panel" like Ubuntu 5.04 system, it can be shutdown from front panel, just with one click, anyone knows the problem and can help me solve the problem? [10:45] livingdaylight: how far did you get with it [10:45] Hi IGF: I was trying to enable SPDIF output on my Asus G1 laptop, and now all of my sound is gone. I used "Method B" at the following URL . I tried rc1, rc3, and the final release [10:45] gobbles414: whats your sound problem? [10:46] rukus, i appreciate the objection that it is tiresome to constantly answer a question that is #3 on FAQ... but it is no reason or justificaiton imo for the attitude imo... that's just a racket then... a justified reason for venting at someone [10:46] ...Would have tried "Method H", but it looked too frightening. [10:46] frederick85, actually, i installed pc-bsd [10:47] frederick85, it was fine but i didn't quite get to grips with installing from ports [10:47] does ubuntu have the following file: etc/inittab [10:47] ? [10:47] alot of packages were quite old [10:47] livingdaylight: you just use a program called make [10:47] gobbles414: weird, i've always got mine fixed by recompiling alsa. [10:48] livingdaylight: gentoo has portage which is similar but more easy [10:48] frederick85, well, you're really friendly and helpful as is rukus i just wish i had bumped into you then... [10:48] livingdaylight: theres a gentoo port of freebsd aswell [10:48] someone with ubuntu please go into terminal and type: locate inittab [10:48] and please give me ur output [10:48] eltew: it's in /etc/ [10:48] eltew: and make a backup before you change anything. [10:48] humm how do i do a system upgrade in ubuntu? :/ [10:49] livingdaylight: I just learnt it all in the last 3 months myself [10:49] rukus: i cannot find my file, according to my system it doesn't exist and i'm thinking thats why i can't access the terminals [10:49] MrSunshine: maybe first get all the rpm's, then do the installation. Most mirrors miss one or two rpms. [10:49] frederick85, it was just a matter of reorientation. I wasn't used to kde and the whole bsd way of doing things and needed a reorientation course [10:49] rukus: could you paste yours for me? [10:49] livingdaylight: what are you using now [10:49] well how do i actualy do an upgrade ? ... i wont sit here and manualy download every package [10:49] frederick85, ubuntu :) [10:50] eltew: hectic, I don't know ubuntu's internals that well, but you need innittabe to boot to a certain level, or is init 6 the default ? [10:50] Hi all: I see that IGF just left the room. He was helping me with a sound problem. Anybody else willing to help? [10:50] frederick85, i gave up on it... couldn't be assed to put up with the lack of support on the one hand and abuse on the other... [10:50] MrSunshine: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [10:50] eltew: I can look for one quick, but can only get into suse boxes right now, or they the only ones that are up. [10:51] frederick85, in pc-bsd they have their own binaries but still too few of them... i will revisit in time though... [10:51] rukus: I wouldn't know since I haven't figured out all the basics of linux yet.. I get only a blinking cursor when I try to access any terminal via F keys [10:51] MrSunshine: maybe boot a copy of your system in vmware an dupgrade that, I can't handle upgrades that go south. [10:51] livingdaylight: I'll give you some tips where to go if u like [10:51] frederick85, sure... [10:51] rukus: I thank you but I don't think a SuSe file do the trick. [10:51] livingdaylight: theres linux distros that will teach you how to be more of an elitist [10:51] livingdaylight: just by installing them [10:51] eltew: well, inittab would bring up the terminals, so unless someone knows more than I do, inittab does seem suspect. [10:52] frederick85 - Gentoo and LFS :) [10:52] Hi once more IGM: Any ideas on how I might get my sound back? I could care less about SPDIF at this point! [10:52] J_Laptop: exactly [10:52] I've done both [10:52] i havn't done linux from scratch myself [10:52] gobbles414: do kldstat, and unload anything that looks like snd_hda [10:52] even was one of the lead dev's on LFS for a long time [10:52] should workj out of the box. [10:52] I'v done gentoo - FreeBSD that has the least support i'v ever seen [10:52] but such fun ;) [10:52] FreeBSD kernel with gentoo [10:53] nahh, Darwin/Gentoo [10:53] frederick85, the irony is that the attitudes i encountered were the same resentment some linux users felt towards us plebs who should just stick to windows if we can't figure out how to use command line... that kind of prejudism is less and less visible.. I think there is room for everyone.. people who wanna do everything from command line and users that just want to point and click... [10:53] rukus: wtf is wrong with you ? [10:53] rukus: the intelhda's are a pain... [10:53] do you even know jack shit about what you are talking about? [10:53] rukus: wtf is wrong with you ? [10:53] 12:53 -!- rickympl [n=rickympl@195-23-159-89.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu [10:53] 12:53 < IndyGunFreak> rukus: the intelhda's are a pain... [10:53] whops [10:53] guys what is better thunderbird or evoloution? [10:53] livingdaylight: the commandlines super fast [10:53] abdulla - that's like asking what's a better editor - vi or emacs [10:53] MrSunshine: I don't use ubuntu much, but the intel sound drivers work well with defaults ? [10:53] rukus:> ? [10:53] for emails [10:54] livingdaylight: you usually have alot more options with it too. [10:54] rukus: blow me [10:54] it's what is better for YOU [10:54] rukus: i'm sure ou know suse quite well, but that doesn't really qualify you for ubuntu support, don[t hand out info unles you knwo what you're talking about. [10:54] this is why I don't like linux dudes :/ [10:54] abdulla: salam [10:54] ? [10:54] frederick85, sure, i'm just saying that its not for everyone [10:54] wallekom [10:54] rukus: what are you using? [10:54] IndyGunFreak: it's linux, since when did ubuntu become the standard ? [10:54] there is no standard [10:54] but ubuntu does a lot of things differently than other distros [10:55] rukus: that has nothing to do with it, your handing out bad info. [10:55] IGF: and rukus: kldstat results in "command not found" [10:55] frederick85: FreeBSD for firewalls, suse for novell and web services, ubuntu for labs. [10:55] gobbles414: unless you're using suse, don't listen to rukus [10:55] so what you know from SuSE, or RH, or anything else, *MAY* not translate to ubuntu very well [10:55] i'm trying to compile dazuko, and i keep getting the following error: .: 1565: linux.config: not found, help please, thanks [10:55] hmm, how does ubuntu list kernel drives ? [10:55] can gmail integrate with evoloution mail or thunderbird? [10:55] abdulla - either - gmail has an imap interface [10:55] abdulla: yes [10:55] but i've heard it's pretty slow [10:55] ubuntu for desktops :D [10:56] so i must use imap J_Laptop ? [10:56] rukus: CS labs? [10:56] if you want a mail client to interface with gmail, yes [10:56] abdulla: no, Gmail is pop3 [10:56] rukus: are you a teacher [10:56] frederick85: yea. [10:56] adbulla: I use IMAP with Thunderbird and gmail [10:56] J_Laptop: what are you talking about?... gmail is pop3 [10:56] frederick85: no, sysadmin for a universaty. [10:56] nope, they have imap now [10:56] but it's somewhat slow from what I heard [10:56] J_Laptop: that must have been a very recent change [10:56] All settings are there in gmail help [10:56] few weeks [10:56] rukus: in my university they use fedora :P i hope they change it [10:56] make sure you get the ports right [10:56] abdulla... Ditto to what IGF says. I used Gmail with Thunderbird for awhile. Now I am using Gmail with Evolution. [10:56] fedora is nice :) [10:57] I like it as a desktop [10:57] theyr is no pop3 but theyr is pop IndyGunFreak [10:57] abdulla: like i said, that must be fairly recent [10:57] When I ran ./configure it said C Complier cannot create executables [10:57] MrSunshine: I find ubuntu quiet simple once you get to a root terminal, myba emy approach is just different, the end result is the same, even if I have to build it from scratch on ubuntu. [10:57] gobbles414, so you recommend the best and simple satisfying relaxing way for email checkups and cruising is evoloution mail? [10:58] J_Laptop: for some reason these things don't work so great for me. Ubuntu and Fedora are bad on my laptop desktop [10:58] abdulla: if you don't mind the gmail interface(which i personally like it), just sudo apt-get install mail-notification set it up w/ your gmail account, and it will alert you in the taskbar when you get email [10:58] crashing, unexplained slowness [10:58] i don't have any email programs. [10:58] laptop's can sometimes be weird [10:58] I've used both on my own laptop with good success [10:58] I find when I configure myself I get better results [10:58] Such as with gentoo/debian/freebsd [10:58] they work fine for me [10:59] frederick85: took me a day to build kde on my laptop, was worth it. nice and snappy. [10:59] my only problem is the b43 driver's flakiness [10:59] rukus: i'm running xubuntu now I installed it from a gnome alternative cd [10:59] just installed command line only [10:59] salve [10:59] IndyGunFreak: I get his error when running ./configure C compiler cannot create executables [10:59] then found the packages I needed [11:00] anyway, got a pool and bbq to get to :) [11:00] izoom - apt-get install build-essential [11:00] iZoom: why are you running ./confiugre? download the deb files [11:00] you'll go nuts compiling them from source but do as you please [11:00] abdulla: I would rate evolution as a good program, with a couple of quirks. The main issue is that the address book refuses to sort by last name when you are composing a new message. When in the adress book itself, the names will sort by last name very easily. I switched to Evolution so that I could use an antivirus scanner (for my poor Windows friends of course). Gmail offers pop and imap both. I have always found imap to be a pain, so I h [11:00] I couldn't find the Indy. [11:00] them* [11:00] iZoom: then you didn't look very well. [11:01] Did you find it? [11:01] http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/allpackages [11:01] I prefer thunderbird to evo myself [11:01] I couldnt see it [11:02] IGF: any additional ideas on my sound problem. I've tried using the reinstall option for all ALSA and OSS entries that showed as installed on my system in Synaptic. [11:02] IndyGun what one? [11:02] libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0 (0.10.14-1ubuntu3) [11:02] GStreamer libraries from the "base" set [11:02] libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev (0.10.14-1ubuntu3) [11:02] GStreamer development files for libraries from the "base" set [11:03] is Ubuntu GNU/linux [11:03] yes it is GNU/Linux distro [11:04] iZoom: download the .deb file for either xmms or audacious, i think they have mp3 codec support built in [11:04] sapumal: some distros don't call themselves gnu/linux even though they use GNU software [11:04] iZoom: the biggest problem, is you're gonna run into a bunch of dependency errors [11:04] debian is about the only one that uses the GNU/Linux terminology [11:04] IGF: I get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." when I attempt to open the "Open Volume Control" === simplechat is now known as complexchat [11:04] Glinux [11:04] gobbles414: do you have intelhda? [11:04] frederick85, but if you use the kernel and use GNU software why we can't call it GNU/Linux [11:04] they should use that instead [11:05] sapumal: u might anger someone [11:05] It would be awesome if someone would help me with my sound, its not working... Heres the full problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=651091 [11:05] Silver_Fox: well, 1st, you compiled it wrong. [11:06] IndyGunFreak, how? [11:06] I still believe Ubuntu is GNU/Linux, who tell that it is not so. [11:06] Silver_Fox: second, why did you download 1.0.14rc1, which is over a year old if i recall, why not use 1.0.15?.. [11:06] IndyGunFreak, cuz i'm retarted, thats what retarted people do. Or i'm just a noob.. [11:06] is bcm943 diff from bcm43 [11:07] So, what do i do then IndyGunFreak ? === complexchat is now known as simplechat [11:07] Silver_Fox: are you using gutsy? [11:07] ya [11:07] IGF: I think it's in that INTEL HDA family. It shows up as a Realtek ALC660-vd [11:08] Silver_Fox: open a terminal and type lspci and see how it identifies your sound device [11:08] gobbles414: hang ona sec, i think you and silver are having the same prob [11:09] actually there is another problem now.. the usb wireless adapters don't seem to support wpa : [11:09] IndyGunFreak, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4021945#post4021945 [11:10] Silver_Fox: gobbles414 type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak" === KnifeHat_ is now known as KnifeHat [11:11] anyone use any other pdf viewers besides evince? [11:11] xpdf [11:12] acrobat [11:14] are there any window switchers like those offered in compiz but that are more lightweight than compiz? [11:15] ehc: standard one installed [11:15] ehc: it's a window switcher that doesn't do it so expensively [11:16] frederick85, is there anything else in between that and compiz? [11:16] in what media player I can play dvd folder (VIDEO_TS) and view the subtitles? [11:16] ehc: not really. there used to be beryl but it's fused with compiz now [11:16] frederick85, ok thanks [11:16] ehc: compiz fusion thats why they call it that [11:17] kane77: smplayer [11:17] frederick85: thanks, xpdf seems pretty nice [11:17] corruptionoflulz: zooming in is as easy as making a selection with your mouse [11:18] frederick85, yay! you're right I guess.. lemme try :) [11:18] kane77: burn it to a dvd perhaps [11:19] hi all! which CD burner package should i use for Gutsy? [11:19] qwerty121: k3b or nero [11:19] frederick85, well that exactly is the problem.. I just wasted dozen of dvds.. (I'm trying to get the subtitle encoding right)... so I need something to preview it before I burn [11:19] J_Laptop & IndyGunFreak thanks for the help , just 1 more thing so pop is better then imap? [11:19] rsk: are they in the repos? [11:20] kane77: you should be able to open the mpg2 files [11:20] kane77: dunno about that though just try smplayer [11:20] qwerty121: yes. [11:20] gotta head off cya [11:20] rsk: offtopic, but can you tell me what's gnome-baker? [11:21] qwerty121: dont know [11:21] !gnome-baker [11:21] Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-baker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [11:21] rsk: ok, thanks [11:22] anyone haveing K9copy crash? [11:23] hello, Ive just started installing gusty from CD, the disk has booted and an X session has started but it seems to have hung, the CD is still being read loads and the session isnt dead (mouse cursor is moveable) tty1 is avail, any ideas? [11:24] Hi.. anyone know why OpenOffice (or Textmaker) on Ubuntu have different pagination when compared to Word on Windows? Its causing trouble with my uni work... Installing the msttcorefonts makes it worse! [11:25] is picasa really in the repos? [11:25] albator, try to kill X-session by ctrl-alt-del... may be re-started X should be fine. [11:25] thx mouse [11:26] chazco: becasue MSWord is a poorly specified format [11:26] albator, I have something similar under Qemu/VirtualBox. [11:26] It doesnt seem to be the file format (other extensions suffer the same)... i think its the fonts [11:26] I'm trying to view a dvd on my old computer. But when-ever their is cpu activity it's extremly jittery (loading a program or website). Feisty and previous versions never had this problem. Is there anyway to fix it? [11:26] hibernate.sh reports: "FATAL: Module acpi_sbs not found." What is the function of acpi_sbs? [11:27] chazco: how do you know that? Does Word support any other formats? [11:27] Nope, but using other word processers it happens... e.g. Textmaker (supports odt, doc, tmd and more) === dna_ is now known as digin4 [11:29] The trouble is uni work ends up looking totally wrong when the pagination is out (even indivudal paragraphs seem slightly out of place, and the word wrap changes) [11:30] =s cant get the TTY anymore, gonna reboot and start again [11:31] cześć [11:31] hi [11:31] it happened after the splash screens, I chose "start / install" then saw the ubuntu logo with a progress bar for ages, then a broken noise played then the blank X session [11:31] Whew... [11:31] I just spent like 3 hours organizing all the porn on my computer. [11:31] XD [11:31] Goodmorning folks :) I have a little question here: I setup Conky yesterday. I gives me this error all the time: "Conky: statfs '/media/hda1': No such file or directory [11:31] ". Now obviously that's because my hda1 isn't in /media/hda1. But where is it then? [11:31] znacie może jakiś kanał o grach - szukam jednego tytułu i potrzebuję dużego zbiorowiska ludzi grających :) [11:31] co by się podpytać [11:31] Hello. Doesn't compiz with the turning cube work in Kubuntu??? [11:31] chazco, if you want correct pagination, use pre-press text processors like tetex. No one word-processor's format can guarantee same pagination/formatting under different word-processors. Did you try OpenOffice under windows? [11:32] Onyx, legal porn, i presume? [11:32] I only have access to Word on windows (and textmaker)... I dont have much choice in the format either unfortunatly [11:32] albator, do you use i386 or x86_64 installation? Ubuntu? Kubuntu? [11:32] Vinconzo: uhhh, of course -- all the chicks are of age :P [11:33] here: I setup Conky yesterday. I gives me this error all the time: "Conky: statfs '/media/hda1': No such file or directory [11:33] ". Now obviously that's because my hda1 isn't in /media/hda1. But where is it then? [11:33] i386 ubuntu with Kubuntu added [11:33] Onyx, ok. Just becouse you may not talk about illegal stuff in this channel ;) [11:33] mouse - whats puzzling as well is that Textmaker can use its own format... so you'd expect it to match (Win & Lin versions)... which it seems to do [11:34] Hello. Doesn't compiz with the turning cube work in Kubuntu??? [11:34] Does anyone know where the hardrive's mounted? Not external (/media/hda1) but internal? [11:34] Ubuntubruger3: not with all videocards [11:34] Cereal_, see /etc/mtab or just run mount. [11:34] Vinconzo: lol, anyone who would talk about illegal porn is a moron [11:35] mouse: Thanks :) [11:35] rsk: But its possible? Its works for me in Ubuntu... [11:35] sure it's possible [11:35] Hello guys :) [11:35] hai [11:35] Cereal_, if there are no such entries for your drive, it means that you need to mount it by hands. [11:35] Hello RSK === ajmorris_ is now known as ajmorris|AFK [11:36] Mouse: Okay :) Thanks a lot :) [11:36] I just joined Ubuntu gang [11:36] rsk: How do you activate it in Kubuntu? [11:36] Onyx, im not just talking abbout kiddieporn. im also talking about normal porn that's illegally downloaded. as in: not just bought from you local store [11:36] dont know [11:36] Can you please help me guys ? [11:36] chazco, Textmaker doesn't have the same formatting under Win / Lin? [11:36] hello good evening.. im done downloading updates..install or apt-get install thing...now, my question is...how to copy all updates that ive downloaded to a cd?i have dvd attached or installed to my computer and i cant find any application in my system for burning...thanks [11:36] Textmaker does, unless using an MS font [11:36] Kalamansi, go to /var/cache/apt/archives [11:37] Jeff-Hardy: no we can't read minds [11:37] rsk: thx for helping so far [11:37] rsk :) [11:37] Vinconzo: I'm a connoisseur... been ripping my DVDs for a while now :P [11:37] RSk can you please tell me hwo to install Nvidia drivers ? [11:37] Onyx, ok [11:37] Jeff-Hardy: use the hardware manager [11:37] !nvidia [11:38] er. restricted drivers manager [11:38] mouse : how to burn them in the cd?i have dvd ... i dont see any burning application here..thanks [11:38] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [11:38] I did [11:38] Kalamansi: use k3b or nero [11:38] I instaled correctly [11:38] But they keep crashing after restart [11:38] X Server wont load [11:38] Kalamansi, try cdrecord to burn CD. and mkisofs to create ISO-image from files. The command should be like that: mkisofs -J -l -r -V 'My archive' /var/cache/apt/archives | cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw -data - [11:39] I reinstalled 4 times today alone :( [11:40] mouse: first install apt-get install cdrecord? [11:41] Kalamansi, first means to create iso-image and write it to standard output. Using pipe ("|") we are catching input data and pass it to cdrecord program. You can split this operations into two steps. [11:41] Kalamansi, yes, apt-get install cdrecord mkisofs [11:41] I thought, that it should be already installed. [11:42] i've got an interface named dummy0? (wtf.) [11:43] eth01: read about it in your kernel docs? [11:43] idk [11:43] whys it showing anyway? [11:43] how do i boot gdm from the live cd from a terminal (tty2) [11:43] eth01: becasue of how the kernel was configured [11:44] Tremulous, Nexuiz or Sauerbaten? [11:44] well rebooted an ran the disk check, faults found in files so i guess ill reburn :) [11:44] Ryuho: yes :) [11:44] i'm asking which one [11:46] mouse : http://pastebin.com/m2e9ee96f [11:48] 7ã [11:48] I am getting a grub error 17 while trying to boot from an external usb drive [11:49] What's the difference between VNC and RDPv5? [11:50] BernardB, RDP is an M$ protocol that supports device tunneling. [11:50] mouse, is it possible to connect with a Windows XP system via the Terminal Server Client? [11:51] ËÎÕÈ [11:51] ) [11:51] (I've got Gutsy) [11:51] BernardB, use rdesktop [11:52] you may install gnome-rdp or use command-line version: rdesktop [11:52] mouse, Out of curiosity, does rdesktop support the device tunneling features? [11:53] How can I make a program start up on system start up? [11:53] Jordan_U, Partially. [11:53] mouse, with what command can I connect? [11:53] I am getting grub error 17 when i try to boot ubuntu from an external hard drive. [11:53] BB88, system startup or X-session? [11:54] mouse: Where are these located? I just want AWN to start up when Ubuntu starts. [11:54] BB88, System -> Preferences -> Sessions [11:54] why when i drag the icons to the desktop they are so small? [11:55] BernardB, rdesktop -u USERNAME server just see rdesktop -h for options [11:55] <^root^> Is there a nice ftp client for Ubuntu? i tried gftp, it crashes, and kasablanca ask for confirmation on every file, ... [11:55] Jordan_U: Ok, thank you. [11:56] ^root^, Konqueror isn't bad if you don't mind all of the KDE dependencies [11:56] <^root^> Jordan_U, i dont like KDE :( [11:57] ^root^, Do you mind KDE applications though? [11:57] holaaaa [11:57] !ftp | ^root^ [11:57] ^root^: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd [11:57] Hi I'm having a very strange problem my Audiophile 2496 card is recognized and "Test" works under Prefs->Sound but no sound works in any application (Gutsy intel) anyone? [11:57] Hello Guys [11:57] is there a file browser that offers more options on how to view the files? [11:57] list, thumbnails, etc. etc. [11:58] or is teh default one in ubuntu able to do everything? [11:58] Does anybody know a program like eMule for linux? [11:58] oldboy, amule [11:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, yup, i don't like that blue color... [11:58] oldboy, xmule [11:58] rhetoric: You problem is not so strange. his happens quite often. Try to obtain an error message so that people can analyze your system and help you. [11:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, how to use Nautilus for FTP? [11:59] rhetoric: I had similar probs in Edgy and solved it by explicitly selecting the appropriate sound driver in each program, or something. It was ages ago, so I don't know the details, but the gist of it is that some software guesses the wrong thing when it comes to communicating with Linux's sound system. [11:59] why when i drag my icons from the menus to the desktop they are small [11:59] * mouse use lftp as ftp client [11:59] maybe disabling the onboard sound on my mobo would help? [11:59] ^root^, and what about filezilla? [11:59] I didnt know it was so simple? [11:59] ^root^, Places -> Connect to server [11:59] Sonja: I find Konqueror is far superior to the Gutsy default of Dolphin or whatever it's called. [11:59] <^root^> kane77, does filezilla support extracting files? === matthijs is now known as IlovejumP [12:00] etfb, how did you explicitly select the driver? [12:01] rhetoric: Oh gods, this was ages ago. In some programs it's an option in preferences. But I don't know if it really matches your problem. I second what bullgard4 wrote. [12:01] rhetoric, does "aplay < /dev/urandom" produce white noise? [12:01] ^root^, dunno.. I just use it because I'm not too keen on kde apps.... [12:01] Jordan_U, nope nothing [12:02] kane77: Just out of curiosity, what do you dislike about KDE? I used to use Gnome and hated it; I'm a staunch Kubuntu user now. [12:02] !sound | rhetoric [12:02] rhetoric: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [12:02] <^root^> Jordan_U, i tried to connect, it didnt asked for password and havent shown anything till now... [12:02] can anyone clear up the difference between owners and groups? is there a hierarchy? [12:02] Ah, ubotu, you're a fount of knowledge. How can one bot be so wise? [12:02] ^root^, You have to choose FTP with login rather than "public FTP" [12:03] <^root^> oh okay... [12:03] hi all [12:03] gvsa123, you have users and groups.. in permissions you have access by the owner, group and others.. [12:03] !hi | riccardo [12:03] riccardo: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! [12:03] gvsa123: Basically, each file may either belong to an owner, a group and the rest of the world, or not. [12:03] Jordan_U, however, Preference>Sound>Test produces a beep, and yes I've been googling and reading forums for several hours now [12:04] rhetoric, My guess is that for whatever reason you have things set to use OSS, and only the sound test recognizes that ( but you should be using ALSA anyway ) [12:05] kane77: oh that adds to the confusion... lol... for example, how come i am not part of my own group by default? [12:05] can someone help me, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg isn't working for me [12:05] how might I set things back to alsa [12:05] rhetoric, That or sound is just being sent to the wrong channel [12:05] rhetoric, See the message from ubotu [12:05] ice109: Stupid question #1: are you using sudo? [12:05] etfb of course [12:05] what i mean is that it's not configuring it for me correctly [12:06] i searh a list server irc. for my client irc [12:06] anybody can give me insights on running ubuntu from an external USB DRIVE?? [12:06] ice109: Well, had to ask. It's one of those things you can take for granted and then everything else goes screwy. [12:06] ice109, In what way? [12:06] bullgard4: so if you are part of either owner or group, you can access depending on permissions? such that a non-owner but group member may have equal permissions to a file? and owners but non-group members may also have the same permissions? [12:06] Jordan_U xwindows doesn't launch [12:06] and what have ubuntu done with xchat? .. looks totaly ****arded :/ [12:06] ice109, What version of Ubuntu? [12:07] well it's xubuntu 7.04 [12:07] <^root^> Jordan_U, i am connected using nautilus, i deleted some files, and its been years since its preparing to delete the files [12:07] gvsa123, hmm.. well maybe because you don't need to be part of that group, as you will have access to the files because they belong to you... [12:07] MrSunshine_, Remove xchat-gnome, install xchat :) [12:07] paritosh1010_: does your bios support usb boot? [12:08] how is ndiswrapper in comparison to enabled firmware. and has anyone been successful with it in a 64 machine? [12:08] fsanlu, Broadcom card I assume? [12:08] i'm actually in a livecd right now, anyway i can configure xorg correctly from here? [12:08] antixpaul: well..i installed the bootloader on the usb drive. now the bootloader loads, but when i try to boot, it says "Grub error 17: cannot mount selected parittion" [12:08] kane77: i am the owner so i don't need to be part of my group... but groups can be set to have the same permissions as the owners right? such as 0777 [12:08] Jordan_U, yah its cutting me off frequently [12:09] gvsa123, yes [12:09] ice109, Yes, if the LiveCD is working then mount your Ubuntu partition and you can copy the xorg.conf from your liveCD session to your installed system [12:09] hmm [12:09] Jordan_U good idea [12:09] fsanlu, What chipset version? [12:09] but i'm running knoppix [12:09] does that translate well? [12:09] Jordan_U bcm94311 rev 01 [12:09] ice109, Most likely it will [12:09] where is xorg again? [12:10] crush_groove: kane77: and it is also possible that groups have permissions that owners do not? like 0177? [12:10] ice109, /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:10] antixpaul: any idea mate? [12:10] gvsa123, yes [12:10] gvsa123, Yes [12:10] gvsa123, chmod --help [12:10] hi, im new to ubuntu, how do i install software repositries [12:10] gvsa123, chgrp --help too [12:10] happy lunch time [12:11] konqueror eh? [12:11] crush_groove: ah yes... you tend to forget about that file often.. :) [12:11] Novalty, What repository are you trying to add? [12:11] paritosh1010_: what filetype is the usb drive formatted ? [12:11] isnt that also a web broser? [12:11] Sonja, Yes [12:11] antixpaul: the linux partition is ext3 [12:11] Jordan_U i looked at the wiki, and currently states not updated whether works for 64.. so yah had to confirm it with people first [12:11] argh got d/c'd again. [12:11] i can set it up to be my file manager/viewer only [12:12] and firefox for web? [12:12] Sonja, Yes [12:12] woot [12:12] Sonja: In Kubuntu (and KDE in general) it's the default file manager, much as Internet Explorer (disguised as Windows Explorer) is the file manager in another operating system whose name I forget. [12:12] Whats a common one, where i can get some audio software? I dont know much about it. Sorry champ [12:12] I think those usb images are meant to be fat paritosh1010_ [12:12] Jordan_U im not sure if u got my reply (i got d/c again), i have a bcm94311 rev 01. i was just wondering if people had succesfully done it for 64 bit. [12:12] Sonja: But you can use it in Gnome, XFce, etc. [12:12] ok thanks [12:13] Sonja, But don't mistake, konq is not hooked deeply into the OS like IE, it's very modular and simply calls KDE libraries when needed [12:13] antixpaul: its an external hard disk. not a pen drive? i created an ext3 partition on it. [12:14] thanks [12:14] how do i tell ubuntu to use such a program for this, and such a program for that [12:14] e.g. open all audio files with exaile and notheing else [12:15] by default upon double click [12:15] gvsa123: You need to be more precise about 'permissions'. Usually, when people speak about 'permissions' they mean the set of permission to user, to group and to the rest of the world. Permissions of the type you are speaking of are given to files, not to persons. If a file xyz.doc has write permissions to the owner and a group 'abc', then the owner and all members of the group 'abc' will have the equal right to write to the file 'xyz.doc' [12:15] can i download security updates and other updates manually from somewhere? ie. is there a list of updates somewhere with download links [12:15] for example 7 days back === rraphink is now known as raphink [12:16] crush_groove: hmmm... i'm not even sure my question is clear to me... lol... so there's really no big difference if you are an owner or part of group, so long as they have the same set of permissions? such that groups may actually have greater permissions than the actual owner of the file [12:16] Sonja: In Konq, that's an option in a menu somewhere. Let me see if I can find it for you... [12:17] vega--, packages.ubuntu.com sort of, also... [12:17] oh so i can use konq to define my perferred programs defaults? [12:17] paritosh1010_: ahh I see, so you just used a normal install cd to install onto the external usb drive? [12:17] sweet [12:17] !offline | etfb [12:17] etfb: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/ [12:17] im glad i switched to ubuntu this week [12:17] antixpaul: yes [12:17] from winxp [12:17] its a very flexible system it seems [12:17] how can I renamy [12:17] how can i rename my computer? [12:18] !hostname [12:18] Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab [12:18] paritosh1010_: have you tried booting manually from the grub command line? [12:18] Jordan_U: Given that your comment just then was somewhat non-sequiturish, do I take it you're suggesting Sonja and I "get a room", so to speak, and take this to private chat? Or are you making a point that I'm too sleepy to figure out? [12:18] bullgard4: i'll try to be clear... permissions (read, write, exec) refers to what can be done to a file by a user? while groups can also be set to only have exec permissions? [12:18] i cannot believe it. mouse is a great guy [12:18] antixpaul: no [12:18] thank you [12:19] Sonja: I hope you'll come to like it so much that you'll keep using it. I switched a while back and I love it. [12:19] Sonja: In Konqueror, it's Tools | Configure Konqueror | File Associations, then pick the MIME type (you may have to guess a bit) and move items up and down the meny to put your preferred default at the top. [12:19] etfb, !whatever is a message to the channel bot to display the message that goes with "whatever", "!offline" gives a message about installing packages without an internet connection :) [12:20] Sonja: Getting it to open with double-click instead of single is also an option in there somewhere. [12:20] Jordan_U: Yes, I know - I was just wondering why you sent it to me... [12:20] gvsa123: Yes, permissions permissions (read, write, exec) refers to what can be done to a file. It can be separately set to the ownder, the group and the rest of the world. [12:20] etfb, Because you aren't the only one that's tired :) [12:20] Jordan_U: I forgive you, my child. Go now, and do not sin again. [12:21] !offline | vega-- [12:21] vega--: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.byethost14.com/ [12:21] heh [12:21] thanks :) [12:21] what i'm looking for is a chronilogical list of updates with download links included, so i could easily get the updates from the last 7 days for instance [12:21] Jordan_U: Hey, now I think of it, that's actually useful. I could have used that a week or two ago! [12:22] get a room? [12:22] Is Jabber still included in the latest Pidgin version? I can't find it! [12:22] i dont understant hta comment [12:22] bullgard4: and giving permissions or privileges to groups is different from that because you give/limit the group and not the files? [12:22] paritosh1010_: when grub first pops up press c to get to the command line then type 'root (scd0,x)' where x is your usb drive [12:22] vega--, I don't know if such a list exists ( though if for anything it would exist for security updates ) [12:22] antixpaul: ok [12:22] etfb, Then it was all part of my master plan :) [12:23] beni_: jabber is also called xmpp [12:23] also, has there been any updates lately that has caused networking problems? some major issues? [12:23] paritosh1010_: then if it mounts kernel === thzerr is now known as ozerr [12:23] Jordan_U: suspected that too [12:23] brobostigon, okay thank you very much :) Why does it have two names? [12:23] paritosh1010_: then 'boot' [12:23] ok [12:23] bullgard4: so once you set that a group is only allowed to execute and no read and write, that's all they can ever do? they cannot even make their own files? [12:23] antixpaul: ill try that [12:23] beni_: no idea [12:24] vega--, Looks like there is: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn [12:24] gvsa123: No. giving permissions or privileges to groups is not different to giving permissions/privileges to the owner. To limit or define the size of the group is another (a separate) matter. [12:24] Sonja: I'll show you. Watch your chat window and keep an eye out for a new tab or whatever... [12:25] yup i know how irc works :) [12:26] Sonja: That's all I meant. When Jordan_U sent "!offline", I deduced his thought processes as "these two are talking in depth about one topic in a busy channel, I'll send them the info on how to take the chat offline (ie to private chat) to reduce clutter". [12:26] bullgard4: i see the file permissions already.. i hope... what about the difference between users and groups mentioned a while ago? [12:26] Sonja: When really he meant "I need more sleep or more caffeine". [12:26] i think our covo was on topic though [12:26] Jordan_U: and the list archive has download links conveniently, thanks! [12:26] vega--, np [12:27] gvsa123: The basic thing is a particular file. You will entitle a group to execute certain rights for that file. Later, you can create another file. And here again, you can entitle the same group the same rights to that second file, if you wish so. Or do ist differently with the second file. [12:27] it [12:27] vega--, What do you need it for out of curiosity? [12:28] Sonja: That's why I was confused. Never mind, it's all sorted now. [12:28] gvsa123: Be more specific with your question: "what about the difference between users and groups mentioned a while ago?" please. [12:29] bullgard4: okay... i'll try to translate this in writing... [12:29] Sonja: Incidentally, are you using Ubuntu, Kubuntu, or something else? Is Konq a good fit, or do you prefer something else? I find Gnome too plasticy for my tastes; KDE gives you lots of options to reconfigure things. [12:29] ubuntu no K [12:30] is therea gnomy equivalent to konq for fire management and file viewing? [12:30] file [12:30] etfb: there's the added bonus of kde being purty [12:30] nautilus Sonja [12:31] antixpaul: I think so too, although I can understand arguments on both sides. Gnome seems smoother; I just don't like smooth. === InteGastono is now known as Gasten [12:32] i cannot enable anything in compiz settings manager! for example if i enable animations, in the next moments compiz disables it. [12:32] can I remove kaffeine? [12:32] bullgard4: example... you set chmod 0770 to file abc so that you can limit who can rwx it. when you want to give users rwx to file abc, you add them to the group that owns file abc? (this is probably not making sense :) ) [12:32] I have a logitech mx518 usb mouse. It has a "+" and "-" button for DPI increase/decrease. I want to remap these buttons to pageUP and pageDOWN. Every other button works with Device evdev in xorg.conf. What to do? [12:33] ubuntu doesnt start with nautilus? [12:33] what is ubuntus default fine manager viewer [12:33] zipper, can't, they just switch DPI [12:33] etfb: yeah it used to bug me that it reminded me of macs... and I stuck to gnome for aaaages, but I recently installed kubuntu and once I was done configuring kde I don't think I'll go back ^^ [12:33] Sonja: Nautilus [12:33] Sonja, mine 7.10 has dolphin [12:33] i have to go for a min now [12:34] astro76: with the windows logitech drivers, it's possible. Wondered if the same thing was possible in linux, disable the hardware-dpi changing, and just use it as a regular button. [12:35] antixpaul: That could be the Stockholm Syndrome, of course (ie you get kidnapped by terrorists (or a windowing system), and you come to love and respect them (it) despite their violence (its bugs and confusing UI). [12:35] !offtopic [12:35] ahahaha [12:35] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [12:35] etfb: haha [12:35] oops sorry [12:35] zipper, it's not currently possible, xev shows nothing when you press those buttons [12:36] zipper, maybe a custom driver, which is quite silly to be necessary for a mouse ;) [12:36] * etfb thinks two "haha"s and an "!offtopic" pretty much even out, all things considered. [12:37] bullgard4: i'll see what i can get out of google first and hopefully get enlightened... :) thanks for the explanations though... [12:38] crush_groove, Sonja: Dolphin (more properly D3lphin, apparently) is the default for Kubuntu 7.10. Before that, the default was Konqueror. I spent a week with Dolphin and changed the default back, because it's braindead. [12:39] other than wine is there any other programs i can run win apps on? [12:39] dave81, virtual machines [12:39] dave81: cedega [12:39] dave81: VMWare Server is now free, and you can install any x86 OS (including Windows) in it and run it happily. It's astonishingly good. [12:39] !vm | dave81 [12:39] dave81: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications [12:39] astro76: hmpf, and a custom driver is probably kindda tricky to make due to the closed nature of the mouse.... Thanks [12:40] zipper, indeed, probably Logitech is not forthcoming with specs [12:40] * etfb wonders if this will be up to date: [12:40] !vmware [12:40] VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", not available for Gutsy, only Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers [12:40] what date is the next big ubuntu upgrade? [12:40] thank you all [12:40] !hardy | Sonja [12:40] Sonja: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu [12:40] neat [12:40] Sonja: Every 6 months. [12:40] i hope i can play Spore on ubuntu === sales is now known as sourcode[morshit [12:41] i have dual boot anyway [12:41] is Illegal Iguana next? [12:41] offtopic Sonja though funny [12:42] who picks teh names? [12:42] is my question [12:42] or is there a vote [12:42] !names [12:42] Ubuntu has an $adjective $animal naming scheme, summarized (and with a list of suggested words which you can add to) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames [12:42] how come my icons are small on my desktop? I'm usiong gnome [12:42] hello, what does the variable $@ refers to in bash [12:42] * etfb loves ubotu. Ubotu is teh clevar. [12:43] Stupid^Kid: There's a brilliant Bash tutorial kicking around. I printed it out and learned huge amounts. Do you want me to find it for you? [12:43] I do etfb [12:43] http://www.ss64.com/bash/ the man commands for bash [12:43] im waiting for Nerdy Narwhal :) [12:44] astro76: annoying....so there is basicly nothing i can do? [12:44] No sooner said than done, crush_groove: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ === sourcode[morshit is now known as sourcode-moreshi [12:44] !grub [12:44] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [12:44] Stupid^Kid: Its all of the arguments at once. [12:44] etfb: oh, thank you [12:44] Pici: but $* [12:45] zipper, even the mx510 which those buttons output something, they behave weird to make them unusable [12:45] Stupid^Kid: Ah, Pici is right. So if your script named "foo" contained the line "bar $@" and you called it with "foo x y z", it would call "bar x y z" for you. [12:45] Stupid^Kid: Theres a difference, which I don't remember. [12:45] Stupid^Kid, Pici: That's definitely covered in the link I gave you, and it's related to the handling of quotes around args in some weird way... [12:46] hi [12:46] hi ateo === KennethP_ is now known as KennethP [12:47] ciao [12:47] astro76: i've found a button that DOES show an input in xev. How do i remap that button to actually do something? [12:47] im choosin an Ubuntu notebook but its not easy [12:47] hi oracolo [12:47] etfb: but i did find any link? [12:47] ciao [12:48] ateo: pre-installed? [12:48] Stupid^Kid: Hmmm? I don't understand the question. [12:48] no Vista erase [12:48] i'm trying to make my ubuntu as light as I can. what modules or processes can I deactivate? :D [12:48] do you guys like exaile? [12:48] its amaork for gnome [12:48] ateo: try to get something well supported in the wireless dept; intel for example [12:48] wers: Might be worth considering a switch to Xubuntu if you want light-weight. Linux can be pretty monolithic. [12:48] i like exaile [12:49] i'm translating it to Esperanto [12:49] ateo: why not join #ubuntu-offtopic unless you have some support channel questions that is [12:50] !mouse | zipper, sorry off to work, start with the many mouse button howto [12:50] etfb, i am not considering using any other DE anymore. I want the solidness of ubuntu. i just want to make it as light as it can [12:50] zipper, sorry off to work, start with the many mouse button howto: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto [12:50] etfb: oh sorry , maybe my expression make me wrong , hehe , i exactly want know the different between $@ and $* [12:50] i'm using xfwm4 now, btw [12:50] etfb, How can Linux be very monolithic, unless you are talking about the kernel itself? [12:50] Indeed, this channel is for support only. [12:50] astro76: thanks, i will [12:50] Sonja: Cu vi palas Esperanton? You must be one of a dozen people left in the world. There are more people who speak thlinganHol... [12:50] hello [12:51] Jordan_U: More in the sense that adding one application can suck in half a universe of stuff via the dependencies. I don't think "light and breezy" is the Ubuntu way, somehow... [12:51] !offtopic | etfb Jordan_U [12:51] etfb Jordan_U: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [12:51] Stupid^Kid: Perhaps you should either read the link that you were given or ask in #bash (they know this stuff better) [12:51] unm [12:51] uhm [12:51] Pici: You're sailing close to the edge of reasonable there, I think. [12:52] where can I find the man pages... for system / glibc functions? [12:52] like [12:52] man 3 open [12:52] parityflag: install the manpages-dev package [12:52] ok thanks ;) [12:52] wers you'd definitely be better off installing a minimal distro and building up what you need, there was a thread on the forums about minimal distros... fluxbuntu is the first that comes to mind [12:54] wers: maybe geubuntu/enlightenment [12:54] Hello. I have a usb webcam 0c45:602c which is supported by the ubuntu included gspca driver. When plugging it in the driver is loaded (say dmesg and lsmod) and /dev/video0 is created. But I get error messages when trying to use it: xawtv says "X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode", camorama "Could not connect to /dev/video0". It's an ATI video card (if that matters). Any idea? [12:54] !minimal | wers [12:54] wers: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [12:54] Dang - someone did a !-command and it mentioned something I planned to bookmark, but I closed the window by accident and now can't remember what it was... bother. [12:54] no geubuntu for me, brobostigon. I only go for the mission critical [12:55] Pici: maybe i need to find a tutorial and learn from the very beginning , thank you, man! [12:55] hello, before few month i tryed to install ubuntu desktop and the installation procces got stuck all the time . then someone here told me to press f6 on the start of the installation and add someting with the word "generic" and it solve the problem. now i want to install again but i cant remember what i should add ? [12:55] hello does anyone know ho to clear the apache cache? [12:55] etfb thats a very ignorant comment [12:55] Guest16155: the live cd or the alternate cd [12:55] 2 million ppl speak esperanto [12:55] live cd [12:55] Stupid^Kid: The http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ tutorial really is good, and the other one someone mentioned at http://www.ss64.com/bash/ looks pretty good too. [12:55] that's way more than icelandic [12:55] and way more than klingon [12:55] bazhang: live cd [12:56] etfb: hi , i wonder the bash tutorial you just told me ,please give me some advice! [12:56] Sonja: #ubuntu-offtopic please. [12:56] Stupid^Kid: google bash tutorial first link [12:56] etfb: ah ,haha ,i appreciate your help very much ,en [12:56] !offline > etfb [12:58] <^root^> Hi! i am using gutsy and i can't do a ssh localhost, though ssh server and client both are installed [12:58] ^root^, What error do you get, and can you ssh remotely? [12:58] what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu?? [12:58] <^root^> Jordan_U, Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer [12:59] what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu?? [12:59] ateo: Works great, see http://www.thinkwiki.org for more info [12:59] ateo: n o idea [12:59] bazhang: can you help me ? (i need to add someting when i press "f6" on the installation and adding "all generic" someting like this) [13:00] Guest16155: all-generic-ide ? [13:00] ^root^: i hink u need to enable system->preference->remote desktop [13:00] yes [13:00] BuFF: Thats not for ssh, only for vnc. [13:00] Pici: should i type the words with "-" ? [13:01] Guest16155: Yes. [13:01] hi, if i try to start x not in recovery mode, ubuntu hungs and i only have the shell screen with only the cursor ... [13:01] etfb: oh, i find it $@ Same as $*, except when double-quoted ("$@") collectively references all the positional parameters as "$1", "$2", ... [13:01] ^root^: Have you changed your hostname recently? [13:01] * etfb should go to bed before he turns into a pumpkin. [13:01] koko____: What graphics device are you using? [13:01] haha, so dis ni [13:01] <^root^> BuFF, Pici, no to both questions [13:01] Stupid^Kid: Well done! I'll remember that one myself, I hope... [13:01] rbs-tito nvidia [13:01] 6100 [13:02] koko____, You should not start X in recovery ( single user ) mode [13:02] koko____: Could you run the command "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the output to www.pastebin.org ? [13:02] oh sorry , i type something wrong whereas my thought just think in japanese way,haha [13:02] koko____, I assume it also does not work when you boot normally? [13:03] Jordan_U: Yes, he said it only works in recovery [13:03] rbs-tito i do not think it is the xorg, i tried a lot of configurations, anyway i am not in that machine right now ... [13:03] how do I add my name to the sudoers file? [13:03] sudo adduser myname admin [13:03] !sudoers [13:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:03] Myrtti: thanks :) [13:04] koko____: Well, you could try in the device section of xorf changing the driver to "nvidia" or "vesa", then getting the new nvidia drivers from envy [13:04] may be compiz and xorg i read a lot in internet , may be if i disable compiz, but i want compiz [13:04] i tried vesa too [13:04] koko____: Sorry, not "nvidia" use "nv" [13:04] didnt work [13:04] Myrtti: adduser command doesn't exist :( [13:04] and nv ... [13:04] theunixgeek: that of course needs someone running the system having sudo rights already [13:04] koko____: Try downloading envy in recovery mode [13:04] Hi there all, I've lost sound from my main speakers, the oddity being that I can still get it through my front headphones. There doesn't look to be an alsamixer-related problem or a cable problem, so I'm a little confused - any advice? [13:04] theunixgeek: you're kidding? [13:04] what you mean download envy ... [13:05] envy? [13:05] Myrtti: nope :P [13:05] !envy | koko____ rbs-tito [13:05] koko____ rbs-tito: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver » [13:05] *sigh* [13:05] the "locate" code doesnt show hidden files. how do I make it show them? [13:05] Pici: Depending on how old his device is of course [13:05] koko____: Which NVIDIA card are you usin? [13:05] 6100 [13:05] ooh [13:05] need help with sound in gutsy here.. and I've checked google with no luck [13:05] koko____: Is this a clean install? [13:06] rbs-tito that i tried to in a clean install is ok until first reboot ... [13:06] i think the problem is compiz [13:06] this is since gutsy [13:06] because it has by default compiz [13:06] no problem with feisty [13:06] koko____: Why don't you remove compiz? [13:06] but i do not want it [13:07] rbs-tito may be the solution, but i like compiz ... [13:07] i think it is a bug [13:07] i posted in launchpad [13:07] but like a month ago, still waiting ... [13:07] koko____: remove compiz and install the proprietry nvidia drivers, then once it's all set up try installing compiz again === moefoe is now known as BoneIdleBastard [13:09] antixpaul , i did [13:09] I have a question about Gajim, the jabber client. In the chat window the contacts' names are black, but green when they're writing something. Sometimes it turns blue. What does that mean? [13:10] tooty [13:11] comment installer un pilote [13:11] !fr : invit [13:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about fr : invit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:12] :fr | invit [13:13] !fr | invit [13:13] invit: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais. [13:14] hallo zusammen [13:14] ist hier zufällig gemand der sich mit der installation von Hamachi auskennt ? [13:14] !de | cybe [13:14] cybe: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [13:14] is anyone know the channel for fedora plz? [13:14] I've got an interesting one... Installing Ubuntu 7.10 server in a VM (using VMware Server 1.x on Ubuntu 7.10 on a dual-quad-core opteron box), half way through 'installing base system' I get "No installable kernel was found in the defined APT sources". Among the chatter on VT4 is this line: "info: kernel linux-server not usable on 486" [13:15] GHOST: #fedora [13:15] i cant join [13:15] GHOST: /join #fedora [13:15] !register | GHOST [13:15] GHOST: By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration [13:15] GHOST: need to register for that channel [13:15] rbs-tito ok thank u [13:16] When I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK \n type: v4l2 \n name: SN9C1xx PC Camera \n flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request: XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". What's the problem here? [13:16] join #bglinux [13:16] yavor1912: You missed the / ;) [13:16] hey :) [13:16] s/but when/but then/ [13:17] stangely [13:18] what about an ibm T60 and Ubuntu?? [13:18] its a good choice? [13:18] ateo: that would rock === acidicchip_ is now known as acidicchip [13:18] ateo: the main concern is the wireless--get the intel if possible [13:19] i got ubuntu 7.10 when i try to boot using that my monitor shows sync out of range message what to do now??? i tried all resolutions but all resulted in the same is there any method to change the refresh rate during boot...???? [13:19] anyone have any clue about the installer / kernel issue? Because Google's turning up jack squat. [13:19] anybody know anything about the broadcom bcm43xx chipset? [13:19] mornin [13:19] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg kop [13:20] but that works after installing the ubuntu right??? [13:20] kop: boot in safe mode [13:20] where to type this when booting the live cd [13:21] i boot in the safe mode then iam getting a blank screen for a long period of time... [13:21] kop boot live cd in safe mode [13:21] i boot in the safe graphics mode then iam getting a blank screen for a long period of time... [13:21] nothing happening [13:21] @kop are you running this on a laptop? [13:21] kop be patient or try the alternate cd [13:21] no on the desktop [13:21] 15 inch monitor [13:22] hmm. i know on my laptop that it will hang if i don't use the noapic boot option [13:22] no i dont have any alternate cd...could anyone help me to install this using live cd...the previous versions worked fine... [13:22] what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it? [13:22] hi! [13:22] hello, i recently upgraded my 7.04 on 7.10, after the reboot it throws http://nopaste.biz/25483 what went wrong and how do i fix it? [13:23] this is just speculation, but try tacking on the commands to the end of your boot line for the live cd "noapic acpi=off pnpbios=off" [13:23] is der any boot option to change the refresh rate in the begining? [13:24] hi [13:24] kop there should be, can you at least get onto the boot screen? look through the help files [13:24] nothing i saw related to the refresh rate... [13:26] When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely... anyone else have this problem? [13:26] I'm seaching for a tool, some gui client of cvs, that will allow me to administer the premissions configuration... i'm trying to set my repository to be "closed source" for some users (only binaries), how can i do that? [13:26] hi gusy, i'm trying to burn a dvd in ubuntu 7.10 under vmware 6. when i try to burn an iso image to disc, it keeps asking for a blank disk even though 1 is in the drive. I've tried selecting legacy emulation in the vmware setup. any suggestions? [13:27] kop try xres=640x480 [13:27] i got ubuntu 7.10 when i try to boot using that my monitor shows sync out of range message what to do now??? i tried all resolutions but all resulted in the same is there any method to change the refresh rate during boot...??? [13:27] during boot option??? [13:27] n00b question: on gnome-look.org, can i just download any theme and use it or do i need GTK, metacity, etc... [13:27] pidgin invalid sceen name [13:27] is there a utorrent clone in the repositories? [13:28] Does gnome have an app to snap windows in certain positions on large screens... So I can divede my deskopt in 3 places? [13:28] hello, i recently upgraded my 7.04 on 7.10, after the reboot it throws http://nopaste.biz/25483 what went wrong and how do i fix it? [13:28] kop yes, during boot option [13:28] !de [13:28] Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [13:28] How do one use mono? I have a .net 2.0 application i want to see run in linux [13:28] hmm will try that... [13:28] How to parse file using command line in GLIb? [13:28] dna_ you can use ktorrent, transmission, or deluge, all work just as well as utorrent. you can also emulate utorrent perfectly using wine [13:29] i think i found fix to my problem ... (in ubuntu forums i found i should press f6 on the start and add this line : "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi acpi=off" but should i add it in the start of the line or at the end ? [13:29] uzerzero_, thanks :) [13:29] but i have changed the resolution to 640x480 using the function key and it didnt worked ...i strongly beleive you need to change the refresh rate...the command xres only changes the screen resolution and note the refresh rate...i dont think this command will work [13:30] When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely... anyone else have this problem? [13:30] @bryan add this line to the end of the boot options. if on a permanent install, you'll have to edit the grub menu listing [13:30] @kop try researching the various vga modes [13:30] 8-) [13:30] what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it? [13:30] whats the various modes? [13:30] zipper: check out mono-project.com and on irc.gnome.org #mono [13:31] i believe mode 794 is 1280x800 @ 60hz kop [13:31] Atul: Thats a bit offtopic of this channel, you might try asking in ##programming [13:31] #ubuntu-desktop [13:32] hmm thats gud where to type it... [13:32] at the end of the boot line like everything else [13:32] :( it not working .. plz help me .. i have motherboard of intel DG965WH and i cant install ubuntu ? [13:32] good morning - could anyone help me with a video question in Gutsy Gibbon? [13:32] hi, has anyone experience with unbuntu and a sony vaio sz61mn/b? [13:32] !ask | bonchon [13:32] bonchon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [13:33] I'm using a Fujitsu P5020 laptop, and can't get the right driver (I think) for Gutsy [13:34] if I use the graphics card driver for Intel Experimental modsetting, I get the right resolution, but the screen flickers [13:34] um, pbuilder fails because supposedly apt-get is unable to locate package libwxgtk2.8-dev, but apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-dev works just fine [13:34] I'm seaching for a tool, some gui client of cvs, that will allow me to administer the premissions configuration... i'm trying to set my repository to be "closed source" for some users (only binaries), how can i do that? [13:35] can anyone help me get lm-sensors working correctly on my asus mobo? [13:35] and if I use the i810 driver (I have an intel chipset 855) [13:35] I get the wrong resolutions [13:35] IMYojimbo: packages.ubuntu.com [13:35] When I try to install new programs with Ubuntu's "Add/Remove...", it just hangs and displays the spinning cursor indefinitely... anyone else have this problem? [13:35] @bryan try using less of the options. try booting it with "noapic acpi=off pnpbios=off --" and make sure you include those last two dashes at the end, if that doesn't work try removing each option from the end [13:35] Pici: thx [13:35] This is really annoying... [13:35] ah, ok, I think I found the correct part from the howto [13:35] must have been blind [13:36] Onyx: Can you open a terminal and type `sudo apt-get update` (w/o quotes) [13:36] uzerzero: what are the steps of doing that ? (i am new to ubuntu) press f6 on the start ? [13:36] I followed the online guide for lm-sensors, but I can't get the correct readings from my mobo when compared to the readings in the bios [13:36] Pici: Done... now try again? [13:36] Onyx: Did you get any errors? [13:36] brobostigon: ? [13:36] Pici: No [13:36] uzerzero: after i press f6 , should i erase the all line ? or just add what you write me in the end of the line ? [13:37] Pici: Ran straight through [13:37] How can I get the recycle bin to show on my desktop, as in windows? [13:37] Onyx: Try add/remove again then [13:37] I don't want other people to see my home directory files, what do I do? Do I just chmod everything to 700? [13:38] @bryan remove the last two dashes at the end of the line, add the commands followed by -- then hit enter [13:38] Pici: Same deal. The "Starting Administrative...." process starts running in the background (icon on the taskbar), then it disappears and the add/remove program hangs. [13:39] I can't get lm-sensors to work on my asus p5ld2 motherboard, can anyone help me? [13:39] onyx:try it from cli, it will give you lots more information when it starts. [13:39] Onyx: let me check something hewre, hold on [13:40] brobostigon: You happen to know the add/remove program name off the top of your head? [13:40] brobostigon: Just using apt-get? [13:40] Can't get the right resolution to show up in my screen options, in Gutsy - can anyone help? [13:40] pici: nno idea [13:40] @bonchon what type of video card are you using? [13:40] Onyx: Run `gksudo gnome-app-install` [13:41] Onyx: From a terminal and look for errors [13:41] bonchon: What graphics card do you have? [13:41] onyx: use apt-get oy synaptic to install progs. [13:41] it's a laptop with an Intel 855 chipset [13:41] #ubuntu-newyork [13:41] !exit [13:41] Sorry, I don't know anything about exit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:42] Can someone please point me in the *right* direction to get my unbutnu VM guest to it's absolute minimum size? df shows 1.0G in use, but vmdk is 3.4G after a (zero filled) shrink [13:42] hi [13:42] hey guys just moved a CD drive from PS to SS, now it's working in GUI but not in command line properly [13:42] where can I find b43-fwcutter? [13:42] Hi there all, I've lost sound from my main speakers, the oddity being that I can still get it through my front headphones. There doesn't look to be an alsamixer-related problem or a cable problem, so I'm a little confused - any advice? [13:42] is the mappings stored somewhere else? [13:42] what's responsible for automounting removable hard drives and is there any way i can configure it? [13:42] Pici: Odd... that worked without any errors whatsoever. [13:43] Onyx: Very odd. [13:43] dahitokiri: hal [13:43] !hal [13:43] phophos: did you try to unmute the other channels? [13:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about hal - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi === lix_ is now known as lix [13:43] !b43 [13:43] Sorry, I don't know anything about b43 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [13:44] brobostigon, any way i can configure it's actions? [13:44] sjnims: I have no muted channels (according to alsamixer) except for "Duplicate Front" [13:44] bonchon you probably need to add a modeline to xorg.conf for the resolution you need. Look at the man page for 'gtf' and google 'sorg.conf modeline' for more information [13:44] are there any major update in 7.10 from 7.4? [13:44] dahitokiri: i dont know, sorry [13:44] thor - will do now, let me see if that works [13:45] hey fellas, my eth0 doesn't respond to inserted cables and connections with other comps at all. (noob here) Any idear what might be wrong? [13:45] Phophos: If you open then sound mixer, are there any channels not listed that you know you have? [13:45] hi [13:47] Pici: Is there any danger of editing my Applications menu to execute 'gksudo' prior to '/usr/sbin/gnome-app-install'... so the entry would be 'gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install' [13:47] how can i chek when i installed ubuntu? === golempje_ is now known as golempje [13:47] thor - looks like I'll have to use 915resolution again (had it in my earlier install, didn't think Gutsy needed it). For now, is there a way to get Ubuntu to just let me return to the driver that was sort of working? The preferences panel won't change back. [13:47] aproximitly [13:48] Onyx: arent credentials cached for a bit using gksudo ? [13:48] Onyx: Not at all, but the program should have automatically called it itself. [13:48] ximpul: as they are for sudo as well. [13:48] uzerzero: still not working :( , let me explain the problem so you have more information , i have motherboard of intel DG965WH, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 desktop 64 bit , i got to the first screen (where i can choose install without graphics etc... ) when i choose the first option to install, all the computer like stuck .. moving very slow after a while its get to progress bar (the progress bar moving very slow and blink) that's [13:48] it.... ? [13:48] ximpul: No idea dude... this is my first foray back into the Linux in about six years. [13:49] Pici: Onyx: mmm i would be more concerned with the credentials being cached [13:49] ximpul: Why? It only caches them for a few minutes and all the *sudo commands do that. [13:49] Onyx: o rly ? well then you should not have many concerns here [13:49] crap. my screen is completely hosed. I picked the wrong driver and logged out, now all i can see are diagonal scan lines [13:49] is there anything I can do at all? [13:50] Pici: if he were deploying ubuntu or something that would have been an issue [13:50] ximpul: I was thinking the same as Pici there... I've only seen the sudo commands cache the stuff for about 5 minutes if that. [13:50] Onyx: cool [13:50] bonchon I know of no way in ubuntu to revert to a previous version of a package. I have seen too many problems similar to yours lately and have completely disabled 'upgrades' unless I find some improvement I can't live without. [13:50] hmmm... no response to my query... retry with different words: How do I defrag my ubuntu system partition [13:50] ximpul: It only caches them for about 5 or 10 minutes, and this can be configured if needed (I dont remember where though) [13:51] Pici: gotcha [13:51] I have a trouble, and i would be glad, if somebody helped me with it. After adding additional memory to my system(512 -> 1024+512) the kernel started to freeze (completely dead, no reaction to NumLock). This happens with an average time of about a hour. Following the advise of a man from #ubuntu, i have performed a memory test: 12 hours of test, no faults. That's the situation! I have asked the question here about 8 hours ago, i hope, now there are more people. [13:52] bonchon can you hit Alt-F2 and switch to a console login to fix it? [13:52] bonchon might need Alt-Ctrl-F2 [13:52] ivze: how did you run the memory test ? [13:53] is it better to install 7.10 from a cd than to upgrade from 7.4 or is it the same exact thing? [13:53] hmmm 12hrs of test but you asked 8 hrs ago... is this a riddle ? [13:53] -ximpul-: reboot->grub menu intem->test(default, no options changed) [13:53] hehe [13:53] ? [13:53] alt-ctrl-f2 worked :) [13:53] does ubuntu support nonfree media codecs in an out-of-the-box configuration? [13:54] Can anyone recommend an app for password management? [13:54] davidwinter: I use Revelation. [13:54] AlieNation: I believe linux does [13:54] ivze: what kind of memory is it ? [13:54] ubuntu is a linux [13:54] krim_: thanks, will check it out. [13:54] Archie1: Yes, I know. [13:54] so yes [13:54] just use vlc [13:54] or mplayer [13:54] mplayer supports everything! [13:54] !codecs | AlieNation [13:54] AlieNation: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [13:55] -ximpul-: DDR2-800MHz. [13:55] Archie1: But some distros like fedora for example limit them [13:55] vlc also supports most formats [13:55] ivze: what company makes it ? [13:55] Archie1: Please don't assume like that unless you know what you are talking about. [13:55] Pici [13:55] Pici: can you help me plz ? [13:55] bryan: perhaps, whats up? [13:55] -ximpul-: getting into the system block... [13:55] Archie1: Thanks [13:55] Pici: assume what? [13:56] i just transferred all the contents (including hidden files) of my home folder to another folder for me to have a clean desktop. apparently, some of my old settings still remain. other than my home folder, where can I find user settings? :D [13:56] Pici: let me explain the problem so you have more information , i have motherboard of intel DG965WH, i am trying to install ubuntu 7.10 desktop 64 bit , i got to the first screen (where i can choose install without graphics etc... ) when i choose the first option to install, all the computer like stuck .. moving very slow after a while its get to progress bar (the progress bar moving very slow and blink) that's it.... ? [13:56] ivze: what does that mean ? [13:56] Archie1: That since Ubuntu is linux that it supports proprietary codecs. [13:56] !codecs [13:56] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [13:56] bryan: Have you tried using the Alternate CD? [13:56] Pici: you can install ones even if it doesnt [13:56] wers: have you looked for invisible folders too. [13:56] help? Xlib: extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":2.0". [13:56] yep, brobostigon [13:56] Pici: yes still not working [13:56] Archie1: Yes, but he asked about 'out of the box' [13:56] oh [13:57] missed that part :( [13:57] Archie1, That is not what was asked "does ubuntu support nonfree media codecs in an out-of-the-box configuration?" [13:57] Archie1: Its okay :) [13:57] how do i keep the gui from starting when i turn on my machine? i need a command line because my video driver is wrong and won't let me see anything once the gui starts [13:57] bryan: Do you get any errors from the alt-cd? [13:58] Pici: doesn't totem also provice all the codecs needed? [13:58] hi! how can I mount my flash card, which i put into my laptop? (i use fluxbuntu) [13:58] Archie1: It can, but it needs to install them first. [13:58] bonchon, You can start in recovery mode, fix the problem and reboot [13:58] Pici: no... just the system running slow, and after along time its got to the partitioner and stuck on the format step .. (someone also told me it maybe some problem arround sata but he not sure) [13:58] what do i have to mount [13:58] -ximpul-: (i said, i was opening the case to look onto the motherboard to see the name to keep o making mistakes). The company is PATRIOT. [13:59] Pici: is upgrading from 7.4 just like installing straight from the cd? [13:59] is there any way my eth0 might be disabled from somewhere else than ifconfig??? [13:59] what is this? [13:59] # ls -altr /dev/zero [13:59] crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 5 2007-12-27 03:24 /dev/zero [13:59] other than the user home folder, where are user settings located? [13:59] ivze: ah ok, well thats a decent brand [13:59] jatt: its a character device that outputs ...zero ! [14:00] Archie1: No, Only the !alternate cd can be used as an upgrade disk, the desktop CD is only for new installs. [14:00] what do i have to mount my flash card? :/ [14:00] jatt: what you are looking at is a file that represents this idea of outputting zeros [14:01] bryan: Have you tried installing the 32bit version? Just to see if it works? [14:01] ximpul: thanks, i just saw that device mentioned in a talk I'm not sure what the purpose of /dev/zero is [14:01] hello [14:01] Pici: 32 bit running fine [14:01] Pici: i am doing it through update manager atm [14:01] i'm new in this room of the server [14:01] If I have this entry in my sources.list "deb http://ubuntu.org.ua/ getdeb/" and I want to pin it in /etc/apt/preferences would my Pin: release a=getdeb line need to be a=getdeb or a=getdeb/ ? thanks. [14:01] Archie1: Update manager is fun as well [14:01] cyberius, try running "mkdir ~/.ivman" [14:01] fun or fine? [14:01] :-D [14:02] Archie1: Er, fine (fun too) [14:02] hehe [14:02] think of /dev/zero as an endless source of bytes, all with the value 0 [14:02] Jordan_U_: mkdir??? this creates just a directory? [14:02] Hi, i need support for right settings resolutions and frequency on my monitor. Corresponding part of xorg.conf is here - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49682/. I can use only the resolution 800x600 ... why? [14:02] jatt: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zerofile bs=512 count=1" makes a file in /tmp that is 512 bytes worth of zeros [14:02] when i run java i get the gcj version even though i installed jre6, am i doing something wrong? === andatche_ is now known as andatche [14:02] hello everybody, would someone know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending? [14:03] cyberius, Yes, it also fixes the automounting bug in the release candidate according to the release notes :) [14:03] i deleted my home folder, logged out and back in to have a fresh desktop, but some settings still remain [14:03] cyberius, Then it should simply mount when you insert it :) [14:03] how do I make my user account fresh? [14:03] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:03] ximpul: I see... thanks! [14:04] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:04] Jordan_U_: $ mkdir ~/.ivman [14:04] mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/daminator/.ivman': File exists [14:04] and what now? :) [14:04] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:04] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:04] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:04] how do i switch from gcj to java, i have both installed [14:04] cyberius, I don't know [14:04] !offtopic | mephisto [14:04] mephisto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [14:04] wers: how did you delete your home folder ? im assuming you did an "rm myhomefolder/* " [14:04] what do u think about xbox360 ??? [14:04] Maybe somebody else can help how to mount the flash card? [14:05] cyberius, Check "sudo fdisk -l" and try the mount command [14:05] cyberius: mount -t vfat /dev/flashdevice /mountpoint [14:05] What's the version of Ubuntu that runs off a USB key? [14:05] ximpul, i used pcmanfm. i moved important files and deleted the whole dir then created a blank one === max739 is now known as max` [14:05] Volvagia356, how did you get on? [14:06] wers: what settings persist? maybe they are storing their configurations outside of your home folder [14:06] ximpul, my choice of window manager and my panel setup [14:07] Kezzer: I haven't heard of any Ubuntu version running off a USB stick so sorry if my answer isn't helpful but maybe Puppy Linux would be something for you? [14:07] !install > Kezzer (Please see the private messsage from ubotu) [14:07] Kezzer: See ubotu's message on ways to install ubuntu, including running off of a usb stick. [14:07] thanks! [14:08] wers: maybe take a look at the manpage for your window manager and see if its storing its config files in some other place outside of your home dir [14:08] Kezzer: also /msg ubotu usb [14:08] it's just xfwm, ximpul [14:08] Can someone please assist? I'm looking to shrink my ubuntu VM down to it's absolute minimum size. df shows about 1G in use on the drive, yet my zero-filled shrink only reduced it to about 3.5G... If it's not the files, it must be the space between them, so I need to consolidate them to a narrower portion of my HD [14:08] it's supposed to be in .config, afaik [14:08] -ximpul-: so do you have any idea, in which direction i shall dig? I have a suggestion, that this may be somehow connected to my ATI on-board video chip (using fglrx driver). Yet, that's just a suggestion. I have noticed some corelation between using firefox and Totem music video effects and these freezes. [14:09] wers: mmm is there a session configuration held within the config files you saved ? [14:09] Does someone here know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending? [14:09] melgish, that is about the most basic install you can have, you need to use LVM if you want to try and get that space back - and that has a performance hit so either way you pay [14:09] does everything in /etc/init.d/get auto loaded at boot time or is there a config file that selects which ones to load? [14:09] how do I make it so I can use the super key along with another key for a binding? like t for launching term. every time I try it only registers the left or right super key and not the other key im trying to use. thanks. [14:09] what config files, ximpul? you mean the ones I preserved? I put them in another directory. not in my user folder [14:09] melgish, also be aware you will have no space to add in additional (read useful) packages [14:09] ivze: well i would say that you should check to see if you can reproduce this problem with a livecd, if you can then replace the memory [14:10] does everything in /etc/init.d/get auto loaded at boot time or is there a config file that selects which ones to load? [14:10] my eth0 interface is nonresposive, somebody has an idear for a checklist?? [14:10] Archie1: no. the mechanism is called sysvinit [14:10] wers: did you make these changes and save them to the global skeleton config file ? [14:11] for the benefit of any ubuntu devs in here, the screen resolution changer on the live cd doesn't work very well [14:11] wols: how can that help me? [14:11] Archie1, they get loaded and stopped and started as requested to find out more about what is starting install "rcconf" for a console app (sudo rcconf is how you start that) or install for the gui "bum" same idea again [14:11] is that a command? [14:11] TheGateKeeper: can you be more specific ? [14:11] ximpul, i made a clean account and renamed the newly made home folder to my user name. imma try loggin in with this home folder [14:11] Kezzer, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/09/28/usb-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon-install/ [14:11] you think it will do the job? [14:11] !upgstart | Archie1 wols [14:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about upgstart - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [14:11] !upstart | Archie1 wols [14:11] Archie1 wols: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [14:12] ？？ [14:12] wers: did you update /etc/passed [14:12] nice question marks :) [14:12] nope, ximpul [14:12] err /etc/passwd [14:12] how do I do it? [14:12] Archie1: it gives you a point to start wíth for research to see how it works. but if you want to be lazy: fine [14:12] grep /etc/passwd [14:12] wers: grep /etc/passwd should give you the users home directory at the end of the line [14:12] no i meant you just gave me a name of the program [14:13] nevermind [14:13] Pici: while it's meant to replace, it hasn't done so right now since /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc?.d still exist [14:13] ximpul, yes I selected admininstration --> screen resolution, told it to use a lower resolution, dialog box came up asking me if I wanted to keep the new resolution *but* it had failed to change the screen resolution [14:13] ximpul, yep. did that with the gui. imma log in and out [14:13] brb [14:13] wols: are you also in debian? :-D [14:13] hello [14:13] TheGateKeeper: failed how? did the screen go black ? [14:14] hey guys.. i've got a buffalo g54 here,, and i've had this happen to another buffalo g54 before, you plug it in, and the red diag light is on, just seems to be dead as a door nail.. anything that can be done? [14:14] hello everybody, would someone know what I could be doing wrong when sound (alsa?) stops working after sleeping/suspending? [14:14] wols, It's backwards compatible, sisvinit is gone, but not all of the scripts use the features of upstart yet [14:14] NET||abuse: you can ask in other places. this is OT. e.g. like ##hardware [14:14] NET||abuse: Try ##networking, or ##hardware [14:14] ximpul, no screen just remained the same, desktop remained as was [14:14] wols: kya,, askin in there then,, [14:14] TheGateKeeper: any log messages in dmesg ? [14:15] wols: is there any file that loads scripts at boot time? [14:15] thanks but I think i mislead y'all. The 'virtual' disk size is 128G, but it's actual size is 3.5G (ie it will expand as needed) in the windows world, I'd use defrag at this point to consolodate the free-space into a larger block, and allow for a smaller vmdk file. I know there are no defrag utils for ubuntu (nor the need for them) but was wondering if there was a way to clone the drive such that free space on the 'cloned' drive is consol [14:15] ximpul, must confess didn't look it there, I can have a look next time I have a play if it helps [14:15] wols: /etc/profile? [14:15] ximpul, I was using gparted to sort my hd out [14:16] Archie1: that has nothing to do. it's a shell related file [14:16] Archie1: what do you want to start at boottime exactly? [14:16] my own script [14:16] TheGateKeeper: sure, if you are able to reproduce it, go here to report a bug : http://www.ubuntu.com/community/reportproblem [14:16] what does the script DO? [14:17] wols: none of you business [14:17] :-P [14:17] ximpul, ok :) [14:17] ok [14:17] ehh i am being terribly annoying sorry [14:17] melgish, You can use partimage [14:18] thanks, I'll look into that [14:19] sometimes just knowing what something is called makes all the difference :D [14:20] hey guys i have to head out [14:20] cheers [14:20] hello [14:21] whats up with the PPA build servers? In launchpad most of them are listed as "idle" but I'm waiting for my builds since more than 2 hours [14:21] bellaaaaaaaaaaaaa [14:22] thefoxx: try asking in #launchpad :) [14:23] Pici, sorry I wanted so and did it now ;) [14:25] i have three user account in my ubuntu, where i am the admin (default account created in installation). how do i set my account to be able to access other users /home but not the other way around? === cyberius is now known as test2323 [14:26] gvsa123: add yourself to their groups [14:26] stdin: in manage groups? [14:26] yes [14:27] in what folder do i find keybing configurations? [14:28] stdin: there is only my name on the manage groups... they don't have an entry [14:28] make sure you're in admin mode [14:28] this kind of control is enough to make me wanna leave Ubuntu [14:29] Pici, completely unreasonable [14:29] huh [14:29] !traffic [14:29] ompaul for the win [14:29] done [14:29] NOTICE - There is a lot of traffic in this channel at the moment. Please try to keep your sentences into a single message, avoid repeating the same question multiple times, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting, remember to mention the nickname of the person you're addressing, and join #ubuntu-offtopic for anything that is not Ubuntu support. Thank you for understanding! [14:30] ubuntu 7.10 is impossible to install on this system. [14:30] stdin: you mean that i belong to the admin group? [14:30] s1ph3r, depends on what this system is [14:31] hi all [14:31] ompaul I can't get a usuable resolution for the install. (even the failsafe fails) [14:31] I get the point where it allows me to select the video driver / resolution. [14:31] s1ph3r: use tect mode and tell us what video it is [14:31] i need help with GRUB and WinXp [14:31] gvsa123: no, so you can edit the groups, you need to add their group to your list of groups [14:31] I know what video it is. [14:31] !bootoptions | s1ph3r you will find that if you do vga=771 or 791 or some such it will work for your machinge [14:31] s1ph3r you will find that if you do vga=771 or 791 or some such it will work for your machinge: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions [14:31] cin: you need to state your real problem too [14:31] and I know my resolution. [14:32] stdin: hmmm... let me absorb that a sec :) [14:32] s1ph3r: but we don't so we can't help [14:32] s1ph3r: the psychic has his free day today [14:32] i810 intel :p [14:32] lcd monitor 1440x900 [14:32] it seems that im too stupid to add it to GRUB [14:32] really i810? a P3 it is then? [14:32] no p4 [14:33] ibm net vista [14:33] stdin: i should make myself part of their group? but they don't have a group... their main group is me basically... but their names arent' ticked in mange groups [14:33] cin: output of sudo fdisk -l in a pastebin [14:33] s1ph3r: then it can't be a i810 but a i945 or such. [14:33] wols from a previous install it was using the i810 driver [14:33] gvsa123: normally when you add a user they get the primary group name that's the same as their username [14:33] and regardless...I tried the i945 driver [14:33] with the same results. [14:34] Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80060424192 bytes [14:34] 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9733 cylinders [14:34] Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes [14:34] Disk identifier: 0x8f138f13 [14:34] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [14:34] /dev/hda1 * 1 3824 30716248+ 83 Linux [14:34] /dev/hda2 3825 9733 47464042+ f W95 Ext'd (LBA) [14:34] /dev/hda5 3825 9306 44034133+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [14:34] s1ph3r: yes, the driver is i810 but not the viode. I ask cause some apparently don't work with that driver even when they should. I blame intel [14:34] Pici, fuck you...ok? fuck you Kindergarten cop [14:34] cin: pastebin! [14:34] cin, I'll remove the mute in a min [14:34] !paste | cin [14:34] cin: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [14:34] stdin: i noticed that from previous installations... but adding them didn't create a group that has their name [14:34] cin: in the meantime put it in a pastebin [14:34] LjL, co operative? [14:35] stdin: what is the difference between owners and groups anyway? [14:35] s1ph3r: have you tried vesa yet? [14:35] gvsa123: owner is the person, only one user can have that user id/name, groups are sets of users [14:35] wols it works up until the point where it asks to select the video stuff. Even if I select use failsafe...it flickers and doesn't work. [14:36] stdin: and this is different from users and groups? [14:36] s1ph3r: I asked you something, please answer [14:36] yes I have. [14:36] thats what it defaults to with failsafe [14:36] gvsa123: nope, same thing just different terms [14:36] I get video for the short time of selecting the video card/monitor. [14:37] s1ph3r: either use a text mode install or next time it flickers with vesa and dies go to console 2 (ctrl+alt+f2) and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:37] stdin: so the owner in chown, is actually the user? and the group in chgrp is the same groups found in manage groups? [14:37] wols, I guess the issue is...it doesn't die. (I can hear gnome starting up) [14:37] Hey, I have a problem...my friend is over at my place with his computer (LAN)...but he can't an internet connection...do i have to "allow" him to connect or something? [14:37] s1ph3r: and check if there is a xsession-errors anywhere [14:37] gvsa123: yeah [14:37] but the screen simply remains black. [14:37] stdin: i mean the users in settings [14:37] anton: do you have a router? [14:37] stdin: i see [14:37] wols: Yes, [14:38] Merry Christmas all.....anyone please recommend software to use with a nokia mobile phone with ubuntu? Many thanks [14:38] anton: plug his computer into your router too and you're done [14:38] gvsa123: check what the group name is for the home directories of the users, if it's different to your group add yourself to it. if not, then you can just "sudo chmod 700 ~/" which makes the owner the only one who can access your home dir (except for root) [14:38] stdin: ok... i'll try to sink this is first.. [14:38] wols: Lol :) Done that ages ago... [14:39] anton: it's not a ubuntu problem but a router problem. OT here [14:39] I accidentally removed the Volume startup program from system > preferences > sessions -- can someone tell me how to get it back? [14:39] wols: Ok... [14:39] 0.0 [14:39] stdin: all other /home/XXX belong to my group... i believe the permissions is drwxr-xr-x [14:40] learn how to count in binary :) [14:40] gvsa123: then you should have read access to them already [14:40] stdin: i also want write [14:40] !zune [14:40] Sorry, I don't know anything about zune - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi [14:40] gvsa123: "sudo chmod g+w /home/" for each user [14:41] stdin: in 0700 what is 4= ? 2= ? 1=? again. [14:41] stdin: is me right? [14:42] gvsa123: 4=read, 2=write, 1=execute, is the name of each user you want write permission to [14:42] stdin: oh i get the username already... i'm adding w to their /home/ [14:43] Anyone?? [14:43] gvsa123: yeah, you're just making it so that the group has write access (although if each user is in the same group then all users can read/write to each others home) [14:43] I accidentally removed the Volume startup program from system > preferences > sessions -- can someone tell me how to get it back? [14:43] is there a website with planned packges? specifically, i'm looking to see when eclipse 3.3 is going to be put in the repositories [14:43] stdin: chmod g+w adds write access (+w) to the groups (g) they belong to? [14:43] gvsa123: exactly [14:43] sometimes ubuntu doesn't take usb devices, why? [14:44] stdin: ah yeah... but then they'll also be able to write in my /home [14:44] like ipod, mouse, usb drive [14:44] onyx: add a new entry with the following options: [14:44] new nano dna__? [14:44] name: Volume Manager [14:44] bazhang, no old one [14:44] command: gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable [14:44] gvsa123: not if you set your home to 700 (read/write/execute for the owner only) [14:45] comment: Volume manager for removable drives and media [14:45] this should restore it [14:45] dna__, what do you see in dmesg|tail when you attach your device? [14:45] Buyydee: Thanks :D [14:45] welcome [14:45] dna__: the mini or other; which program are you using --amarok? [14:45] stdin: ah that's the permissions part of it... [14:45] Hard drive problem - Force unmounted, drive reporting no partition, writing before unmount, dmesg reports [277146.072000] EXT3-fs: sdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4000400). [14:45] mouse, [ 1667.209874] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 2 [14:46] dna__, this happens when you disconnect device. [14:46] bazhang, it happens with all usb devices not only ipod [14:46] hey folks, i just installled the nvidia binary driver and i can't start X, even after a reboot, I have a supported card (7900GS) any ideas? === poningru_ is now known as poningru_work [14:46] what can i do if i have a unreal 2004 dvd with installer but installer doesnt load with no output? [14:46] Is there anyone familiar with GRUB? [14:46] AngryElf: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log [14:46] dna__: all usb devices? that sounds like a hardware issue [14:46] Buyydee: ask your question [14:46] gvsa123: yeah, "sudo chmod 700 ~/" is the same as it being "drwx------" [14:46] golempie installer is the shell-script? "file install_program" ? [14:47] yes [14:47] but it doesnt load [14:47] stdin: so if i want them to read my files only, i set chmod 0750? not including others [14:47] no gui [14:47] Buyydee, may be I can help. I more familiar with lilo, but... [14:47] golempie: doesn't load with no output? [14:47] I already posted my problem here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=567285) and it [14:47] try to run "sh -x install_script" [14:47] sry, wrong key ... [14:47] wols: ok gimme a minute [14:47] golempie: unreal should have a linux program version [14:47] golempje@golempje:~$ sh linux-installer.sh [14:47] (blank) [14:47] golempie, this should print what this script do [14:47] and it's sort of urgent, so i'm trying it here too [14:48] stdin: i'll try to get this straight... [14:48] golempie, sh -x linux-installer.sh [14:48] gvsa123: yeah, that will let them read files in you're home (but remember that each file and directory under your home can have different permissions too) [14:48] Buyydee: it can be as urgent as it wants, either you give us more info or no one can help you [14:48] I had gutsy installed for a while and then installed vista over it. now i restored grub, but grub won't find my vista partition [14:48] gvsa123: so you can have directories and files they can't read even though your home is set to be readable [14:49] please let me finish typing :) i just wanted to explain why i'm bugging the community in two places ;) [14:49] Is there anyone that could help with my problem? [14:49] wols: http://pastebin.com/m48242dcc [14:49] Buyydee: what fdisk -l says? [14:49] stdin: oh... is there a hierarchy to what will first be considered? i mean... does permission for directories supersede permissions of files inside them? [14:49] golempje@golempje:~$ sh -x linux-installer.sh [14:49] golempje@golempje:~$ [14:49] nothing again [14:49] Buyydee: sudo fidisk -l [14:50] Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes [14:50] 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders [14:50] Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes [14:50] Disk identifier: 0x77777777 [14:50] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [14:50] /dev/sda1 6375 18711 99096952+ 83 Linux [14:50] /dev/sda2 18712 19457 5992245 5 Extended [14:50] pastebin! [14:50] /dev/sda3 * 1 6374 51199123+ 7 HPFS/NTFS [14:50] /dev/sda5 18712 19457 5992213+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris [14:50] not here buyydee [14:50] !paste > buyydee (Please see the private messsage from ubotu) [14:50] ugh [14:50] stdin: so that /home/folder is 0777, but /home/folder/file is 0000.... which will take effect? [14:50] !pastebin | buyydee [14:50] buyydee: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [14:50] it's called a fricken past [14:50] force part ftw pici [14:51] gvsa123: if the directory is set readable to all but a file inside it is set to readable only to an owner (user), then the files permissions take president [14:51] golempie, pastebin content of linux-installer.sh if it's not so big. Or paste "head -150 linux-installer.sh" [14:52] stdin: so file permissions are always above permissions for directory? [14:52] gvsa123: well, in a way. you see to linux, directories are "files" too ;) [14:52] zylche, are you sure that your drive healthy? SATA/PATA? which chipset? ICHx? [14:52] stdin: ah yes... i read that a thousand times already... :) [14:53] mouse got it running now on root modus [14:53] gvsa123: you have to have access to the directory to access what's inside it, but you can set different permissions on files inside them [14:53] Well, I was using it beforehand, no idea of SATA/PATA, chipset, ICHx/ [14:53] may be, wrong permissions? ls -l linux-installer.sh? [14:54] at all those that were trying to help me out: i'm sorry i flooded the channel accidently, here is the pastebin-url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49685/ [14:54] -rwxrwxrwx 1 golempje golempje 29627635 2007-12-27 16:25 linux-installer.sh [14:54] stdin: so if the directory is not readable to everyone, even if you set the things inside it to 0777, you still can't read it because you can't get through the first line of permissions? i think this is making sense now... :) [14:54] zylche, if dmesg didn't contain any drive-errors than it may be driver bug. if your drive isn't SCSI, try to change BIOS option and put SATA controller to IDE-compatible mode. [14:55] gvsa123: that's exactly how it works :) [14:55] mouse: [277628.780000] EXT3-fs: sdb1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (4000400). [14:55] stdin: gvsa123 is trying to absorb :) [14:55] dmesg also reports that it's a SCSI drive. === lmr[A] is now known as lmr [14:56] <]Spectre[> hi to all.is it possible to configure the xorg from the command line with a basic vesa compatible mode ? I have some troubles with ati and gnome and it won't start anymore.thanks to all [14:56] stdin: and there's only 3 kinds of permissions right? r w x? [14:56] gvsa123: you're doing well, you've just described it exactly how it works [14:56] Buyydee: "sudo update-grub" then paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst [14:56] zylche, fsck /dev/sdb1 [14:56] gvsa123: well no, there are more but those are the main ones (and probably the only ones you'll need) [14:57] zylche, SATA/PATA represents as SCSI drive. [14:57] The superblock couldn't be read/doesn't describe a correct ext2 filesystem [14:57] gvsa123: there is "suid", "sgid" and "sticky bit" too [14:57] stdin: oh theres still more to this... lol [14:57] * syc_ mohon pamid [14:57] Wait. Superblock is too high/corrupt [14:57] stdin: :(( [14:57] zylche, and dmesg at this point doesn't contain any additional info? [14:57] done. here the link: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49686/ [14:58] Nope [14:58] * syc_ wassalamualaikum wr wb [14:58] hi [14:58] the partition was mounted in nautilus while i updated grub [14:58] * xturux alguien que hable español ? [14:58] !id | syc_ [14:58] syc_: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [14:58] !es | xturux [14:58] un poco, si [14:58] xturux: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda. [14:58] zylche, e2label /dev/sdb1 should report error about wrong superblock, shouldn't? [14:58] el bot tambien :) [14:58] gvsa123: for example, if you suid (set UID) an executable, then when a user runs that executable it's ran as if the owner ran it (rather than the user) [14:58] Buyydee, si :) [14:59] Pici: how do you know that im indonesian ? [14:59] mouse "Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock." [14:59] syc_: Your host is in indonesia :) [14:59] stdin: User ID? [14:59] zylche, do you have any other filesystems on that drive? [14:59] The drive was being unmounted but it seemed to crash, so I had to pull the plug on the drive ... [14:59] gvsa123: yeah, same for sgid (set Group ID), it'd be ran with the permissions of the group that owns the file [14:59] Pici: :D [14:59] Buyydee: FULL menu.lst please [14:59] No, Just ext3. [15:00] zylche, pastebin your fdisk -l /dev/sdb [15:00] sup guys [15:00] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49687/ [15:00] zylche, do you have important data on that drive? [15:00] offload:sup [15:00] A lot [15:00] http://pastebin.com/mb108d20 [15:00] gvsa123: have a look at the permissions for /usr/bin/X, the "s" in there represents suid and sgid (depending where it is in the permissions) [15:01] Hey, I found a couple scripts that allow me to configure gmail as the default mail client in Ubuntu however when i click a email link nothing happens. But if I run the .sh script it opens firefox. I'm not really sure where to start troubleshooting this one. [15:01] Buyydee: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49688/ should work [15:01] stdin: but you'd have to have x permission to run it in the first place? [15:01] gvsa123: you do, yes :) [15:01] stdin: i'll have a look [15:02] wols: would setup (hd0,2) in the grub command recognise the partition, if your entry worked? [15:02] gvsa123: "-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root 7460 2007-12-20 19:40 /usr/bin/X" means that anyone can run it, but when they do it'll run as if the user and group that ran it was "root" [15:02] stdin: -rwsr-sr-x means owner and group has s? [15:02] gvsa123: yes [15:02] sers [15:02] Does anybody have an idea why Azureus would keep crashing in 7.10? [15:03] stdin: why root? and it still applies to the others group when it doesn't have an s? [15:03] are u using apt-get version? [15:03] is there a quicker way to find the initab file.. this is what i'm running currently: find /* -name inittab -type f -print0 [15:03] Tezasaurus: run it from the terminal and then pastebin the error messages or tell us here if they are brief [15:03] i'm only seeing /etc/init.d/ [15:03] zylche, try to mount your partition with option sb=m, m=32768*n, where n = { 3^i, 5^i, 7^i}, so 3, 5, 7, 9, 25, 27, 49, ... [15:03] Tezasaurus: multiple java [15:03] hi all, I've just installed Thunderbird and I'm looking for the folder it uses called 'mail'. Where would I typically find that? [15:03] hallo? [15:04] max: das ist ein englischer channel [15:04] tezesaurus: this has to do with java [15:04] stdin: oh because it is owned and belongs to root [15:04] zylche, mount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -osb=98304 [15:04] AH. Thanks [15:04] gvsa123: if it was only -rwsr-xr-x, then it would be ran as user: root, group: (your group) [15:04] ... or put differently: in what folder do programs typically install? [15:04] Checking [15:05] bazhang: I get... [15:05] Fontconfig error: "~/.fonts.conf", line 1: XML declaration not well-formed [15:05] # [15:05] # An unexpected error has been detected by Java Runtime Environment: [15:05] # [15:05] # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb448874b, pid=5935, tid=3084704656 [15:05] # [15:05] # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.6.0_03-b05 mixed mode, sharing) [15:05] # Problematic frame: [15:05] !paste > Tezasaurus [15:05] # C [libglibjni-0.4.so+0xb74b] [15:05] !pastebin | Tezasaurus [15:05] Tezasaurus: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [15:05] Tezasaurus: that is not brief [15:05] gvsa123: the other permission "sticky bit" is rather obscure and not really used any more, so you don't have to worry about it [15:06] stdin: so SUID is set when you add the s to the user section of ---s------ and SGID is simply when the s is in the group part ------s---? [15:06] zylche, I suggest to run fsck.ext3 with -b option first. [15:06] stdin: that's the t right? [15:06] whoop, sorry [15:06] gvsa123: yes, to both [15:06] i think tezasaurus' problem is the combination of java with compiz, i had the problem when running another java program (matlab) and got it fixed [15:06] stdin: absorbs some more.... :) [15:06] mouse: Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8). [15:06] tezasaurus: try running azureus with lowest details (in preferences, appearance) [15:07] anyone can name me a proper ftp client (preferably graphical) that supports auth and implicit ssl transfers ? [15:07] zylche, at mount-time? [15:07] with fsck.ext3 -b 98304 /dev/sdb1 [15:07] menllyos gFTP in applications -> internet [15:07] try fsck also with "-pv" [15:07] hallo?? [15:08] i tried gFTP but i couldnt get any ssl connections to work [15:08] huhu [15:08] mouse: clear? [15:08] kann wer deutsch hier?? [15:08] !de | max [15:08] ja [15:08] max: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de [15:08] !de [15:08] menllyos filezilla [15:08] why is zenity wasting my CPU power - it's 100%! Anyone experiences same? [15:08] ok thx [15:08] gvsa123: permissions are complicated, but for good reason: you can talor exactly what each user/group can and can not do. for example you could make a file that anyone could write to, but only the user can read (think primitive email :P) [15:08] !ph | sunogbaga [15:08] sunogbaga: Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog [15:09] Buyydee: It crashes on startup, even with Compiz/advanced effects turned off [15:09] mouse: "Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8)." "Clear?" [15:09] I just created a new unpriviliged user and used button to start the screensaver, then I switched user and logged in with the unpriviliged one. I switched back, and all the programs I was running with the first user had been closed. Should it be like that? [15:09] Tezasaurus: perhaps time to switch to a more stable client? === krim_ is now known as krim [15:09] tezasaurus: sry then, that's the only problem i had when running azureus, can't help you anymore :( [15:10] stdin: for that it should be 0733? [15:10] I'm all for switching clients, I never really liked azureus anyway- any recommendations? [15:10] tried filezilla too, doesnt work, if i enable ssl it still reports to me that i need to enable it... :( [15:10] Bittorrent client? rTorrent is very nice. [15:11] gvsa123: 0622, no need for it to be executable ;) [15:11] deluge is pretty nice for a torrent client... [15:11] How can i check php5 logs? [15:11] Tezasaurus: there are number of optiions availiable--rtorrent is the cli version, transmission, ktorrent, and deluge [15:11] stdin: oh... i see.. i thought you had to add that for them to launch it... :) [15:11] transmission is good [15:12] zylche, try -nv and answer to all questions "y". this option wouldn't modify filesystem, but you can see how large damage is it. [15:12] transmission is my choice as well [15:12] gvsa123: to run it, yes. but they don't need to run it, only write to it === ^A^way is now known as ^A^kira [15:12] Should apps close down when switching between users? [15:12] hey all, stdin: hey thanks a lot... i'll try to grasp this first before overloading my neural connections... [15:13] is that the correct setup for internet connection sharing .. file sharing.. resource(printer) sharing.. etc? [15:13] Actually, I have Transmission, but that has given me problems, too [15:13] stdin: i think i get the picture but i won't get into how they would write to a file without launching it first... might fry my brain :) [15:13] mouse: fsck.ext3: Illegal inode number while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sdb1 [15:13] stdin: thanks again... === paradox is now known as _para_dox [15:14] gvsa123: +x means it can be ran/executed, that is the commands will be executed one by one (for a text file). [15:14] zylche, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/help-please-superblock-has-an-invalid-ext3-journal-460677/ [15:14] hello- looking for verification: A normal Ubuntu install will have a "/etc/inittab" file, right? [15:14] mouse: I was just reading that one :P [15:15] :) [15:15] gvsa123: make a directory (under /tmp for example) and practice on it, that way it doesn't matter if you mess it up (/tmp will be cleared on reboot) [15:15] <[nix]> Anyone know if its possible to disable all icons? [15:15] <_para_dox> if there's a website I could be directed to that explains how to setup internet connection sharing using ubuntu.. it'd be greatly appreciated [15:15] thanks for the help so far, mouse [15:15] [nix]: disable them? [15:15] zylche, you can try to run -yv but result may be unpredictable... [15:15] stdin: ah that's good... i will try that.... [15:15] Is there a way that I can have Rhythmbox organise my music for me automatically? (as in directory structure) [15:15] bazhang: staggering isn'tit? :-) [15:16] zylche, the best solution is to make image of disk and then try to do any modification of filesystem. [15:16] mouse: hmm.. so should I just try it with -v then? [15:16] Thing is, the disk is 320GB, and its the largest disk I have [15:17] <[nix]> bazhang: yeah, so my entire system only shows text [15:17] [nix]: you might look into screen [15:17] zylche, I know, that it 320Gb... fsck.ext3 -b .. -y -v /dev/sdb1 [15:18] <_para_dox> how do I get into a root terminal, so I don't have to use sudo? [15:18] zylche, but!!! you may loose your data completely... [15:18] hi all [15:18] I am trying to use nfs in combination with acl under kubuntu, unfortunately I can't find any info on how to set up acl fpr kubuntu, could anyone give me a hint or an idea? google results were not helpful so far [15:18] Checking it manually, mouse [15:18] nix - change your runlevel so the GUI doesnt start [15:18] /hopes to not lose all data [15:18] !info screen [15:18] screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.4ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 574 kB, installed size 984 kB [15:18] !screen [15:18] screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen [15:18] is it well known that there is a problem using kernel version 2.6.22-14-i386 and mounting NTFS? I've has a problem using it, however booting to 2.6.20-14-i386 allows me to access NTFS [15:19] see above [nix] [15:19] Gues7, did you try NTFS-3G? [15:19] savetheWorld: haha [15:19] <[nix]> savetheWorld: ???? i need the gui, i just dont want any icons [15:19] any1 knows how to sign in msn messenger with gmail account? [15:19] mouse: yeah, I have it working now with 2.6.20, and it was all working grand before I updated [15:19] nix then delete them [15:19] abdulla: yeah [15:20] i have made a passport i received a verficiation code but they dont tell me what to do with it fluxy [15:20] abdulla: you need to create a .Net Passport account with ur gmail address [15:20] has ubuntu stopped using /etc/inittab? [15:20] Gues7, I'm running latest stable 2.6.22-14 with ntfs-3g. what exactly won't work? [15:20] <[nix]> savetheWorld: lol [15:20] savetheWorld: no should be there [15:20] abdulla, use the email addr and the password (not ur gmail login one, the one u gave at passport) to login in msn services [15:20] mouse: I cant get it to mount at all, I get an error saying the device is busy [15:20] !upstart | savetheWorld [15:20] savetheWorld: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ [15:20] stdin: so how come the groups listed in the command groups isn't the same with the one's listed in groups settings? these are the same groups they refer to? it's just that the terminal lists everything? [15:20] bazhang: getting people in ##linux saying its missing [15:21] <_para_dox> how do I get into a root terminal, so I don't have to use sudo [15:21] stdin: gui vs terminal i mean [15:21] abdulla, the verification code is, well, to verify that u actually own that email address. [15:21] Pici: which release did that start with? [15:21] savetheWorld: now it is Upstart apparently [15:21] savetheWorld: I want to say Feisty, but I may be wrong, [15:21] oops [15:21] Thank you. (s) :) [15:21] _para_dox: preferably, you dont. You can use sudo -s to get an interactive sudo session. [15:22] gvsa123: not completely sure, I've never used the groups setting thing (I don't use Gnome) :p [15:22] <_para_dox> pici- this explanation of using internet connection sharing says I can't use sudo, has to be in a root term [15:22] I was logged in as my regular user and created an unpriviliged user. Then I locked the screen and chose to switch user there. After logging into the unpriviliged user and then switching back to my regular user, all apps had been closed (except for the ones running in screen which I could reattach). However, when I switch user without locking the screen first I can switch back without losing my programs. It seems kind of bad that someone is a [15:22] yyx yyyyyyxxxxxyxxxxxxxxxxXX [15:22] stdin: i see... [15:22] _para_dox: that that description is wrong [15:22] fluxy, you mean i use the hotmail account? to log in my gmail? [15:22] nummer9: dont do that please. [15:22] nummer9: please stop [15:22] fluxy, cant i just log in my gmail? [15:22] sorry [15:23] How can i check php5 logs? [15:23] _para_dox: root is disabled on Ubuntu, sudo -s should work fine. [15:23] gvsa123: when I edit groups I do it the old fashioned way, I edit /etc/group :) [15:23] i read in forums where it says to enable signing in with your gmail you need to verify first and you have 3days to verify before it expires fluxy [15:23] how do i make an applet enabled for all user? [15:24] pampanga, try to add .desktop file to /usr/share/gnome/autostart [15:24] Andycasss: the changelog? bugs etc? [15:25] abdulla, no. you still use ur gmail account for email. but now, having registered with passport, u have a passport account, where the login is the address u gave them (gmail addr) and the password = password supplied [15:25] bazhang: no, id like to know whats wrong with my sendmail [15:25] !offtopic | abdulla [15:25] abdulla: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [15:25] abdulla, what i mean is your gmail account and ur passport accounts are SEPARATE [15:25] pampanga, with ".desktop" I mean desktop file of your applet. It should be located somewhere in the system. You may just copy-paste from existent one and change program name/command. [15:25] stdin: that's : X (don't know) : : groups? [15:25] pampanga: make sure it has execute permission for all. [15:25] abdulla, only the logins are similar, u may have different passwords [15:25] Andycasss: what errors are you getting (dont paste them here) [15:25] fluxy, abdulla: perhaps you can take this conversation elsewhere, it is not Ubuntu related in the least. [15:26] why 'rm' is not printing any error messages when i'm deleting non existent files? like no such file or directory? [15:26] stdin: oh group ID... [15:26] mouse: i'll try it [15:26] Pici, Point noted, sorry [15:26] x3roconf, "rm -f" ? [15:26] gvsa123: process ID is the ID (number) given to the process, that has nothing to do with users/groups [15:26] x3roconf: because its not an error? [15:26] i need @gmail to work with pidgins Pici :p [15:26] bazhang: Thats what Id like to know, what errors are there so i could fix em... [15:26] abdulla, can u chat in pvte? [15:26] stdin: whooops... :) [15:26] bazhang: Im trying to make a contact form to send mail, but it doesnt want to work [15:27] If my illegal blocks are millions of blocks apart. That's good for data preservation, right? [15:27] rm -f dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd > no error message lol? [15:27] >.> [15:27] zylche, right. [15:27] fluxy, however my email passport that i used is actually a useing msn address that i use in my msn it means can i make those 2 linked or ? [15:27] man 7 rtnetlink says: "Rtnetlink allows the kernel’s routing tables to be read and altered." Can you tell me what is 'rtnetlink' and not, what it allows? [15:27] http://spikesource.com/docs/cs_1.6.0-linux/doc/php5/php5_quickstartguide.html in here Andycasss? [15:27] mouse: where is the location of the *.desktop files? [15:27] zylche, it's would be great if many of damaged data would appear under /lost+found. [15:28] why its not an error? [15:28] pampanga, do you have any of them in /usr/share/gnome/autostart ? [15:28] lol [15:28] can i debootstrap a gutsy system from a running feisty system? [15:28] abdulla: offtopic [15:28] it says that /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy is missing [15:28] mouse: just one the gnome-at-session [15:28] pampanga, you may copy it and change command to execute and name. [15:28] bazhang: I dont have /var/php5 [15:29] Andycasss: is that a problem? [15:29] bazhang: yes, since then i dont have the error logs either.. [15:30] hello [15:30] Andycasss i thought php loggin is specified in php.ini [15:31] bazhang: never mind, its in my apache log... My sendmail path is wrong, i wonder whats the right path for postfix... [15:31] Andycasss: /var/log/apache2/error_log do you have that? [15:31] hello ? [15:31] oops [15:31] currently it wants it from /usr/sbin/sendmail [15:31] yhelp me plz ? [15:31] !ask | Ready^Go [15:31] Ready^Go: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [15:32] ask away Ready^Go [15:32] Andycasss do u have sendmail installed? [15:32] !ask | i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit [15:32] i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [15:33] i wanna download ubunto the best white flash 32bit [15:33] stdin: my ubuntu time is up... thanks again... :) [15:33] Anyone know how to delete an account on Ubuntuforums.org? [15:33] Ready^Go: there is a problem with flash at the moment [15:33] !flashissues | Ready^Go [15:33] Ready^Go: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix. [15:33] krim: ask on the forums? [15:34] sunogbaga: oh, no i dont, ill install it [15:34] i keep getting "dhcpd self-test failed." when setting dhcp3 - any tips? [15:34] what diffrent kubunto and ubunto ? [15:34] Andycasss there you go.. :P [15:34] kde and gnome Ready^Go [15:34] Ready^Go: Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE. [15:34] !flavors | Ready^Go [15:34] Ready^Go: !GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu [15:35] dhcpless that happens when you start dhcp-3? [15:35] what the best in linux ? [15:35] my wine iexplore isn't working, i think i deleted some files accidently a while ago. is there a way to reinstall it? [15:35] what are you use bazhang [15:35] kde Ready^Go [15:35] Ready^Go: There is no 'best', it's a matter of taste. Just check out some screenshots and choose the one you think looks good. [15:36] sunogbaga, i get "dhcpd self-test failed. Please fix the config file. [15:36] The error was" [15:36] ubuntu gnome might be best for you Ready^Go [15:36] Ready^Go, each has its ups and downs IMHO [15:36] sunogbaga, it doesnt tell me wht the error was... [15:36] and from where i download ? [15:36] i from israel [15:36] Sharpie: the wine-config (or is it -configure?) command will repair your $HOME/.wine directory. [15:36] Ready^Go: from the official ubuntu site [15:36] dhcpless try to paste /var/log/syslog [15:37] Ready^Go: Find a link close to you from http://www.ubuntu.com [15:37] can you give me link ? [15:37] Ready^Go: there should be a local mirror near you [15:37] yhank yopuuu [15:37] no worries Ready^Go [15:37] 10q very much :) [15:37] Vorbote: it's neither [15:37] haha [15:37] Hello, all. I'm looking to remove Ubuntu 7.10 from this machine (I need the space and have it on another machine as it is). I'm running Windows and I'm using Norton Partition magic to do everything. I just want to know if it is safe to completely format the partition, or will I run into troubles with GRUB? [15:37] Hey People [15:37] sunogbaga, whats the pastebin address? [15:37] Amarok crashed my system :( [15:37] kde i wanna to see ? its ok [15:37] ? [15:38] anyone have any tips on getting suspend and hibernate to work with an nvidia card (nvidia geforce go 7400) ? [15:38] T7P: not really an ubuntu question--ask in ##windows [15:38] T7P: Its safe, but you probably want to run fixmbr afterwards, see ##windows for more info. [15:38] T7P: I think you might have to 'repair' the MBR with the windows installation disc. That's what I've had to do in the past, but it's easy [15:38] Thanks! [15:38] Sharpie: Well, type the assorted collection. It is one of them (type wine- at a shell prompt and hit tab). That worked the last time I used wine (almost a year ago...) [15:38] !find beep media player aac+ [15:38] Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beepcore-c-dev, beepcore-c0 (and 1 others) [15:38] Sharpie, there is an ie6 project that download and install ie6 within wine. http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page [15:38] where i see kde ? [15:38] Ready^Go: Use google [15:38] bazhang [15:39] in pic ? [15:39] Amarok is bad :( [15:39] mouse: i know, i just want to remove my wine iexplore... [15:39] Vorbote: doesn't exist [15:39] Hmmm.... looking for some help with compiz/emerald... the themes only seem to be applying to the window borders, not the taskbar and scroll bars... anyone know how to fix this? [15:39] you have google Ready^Go? look for kubuntu--first link! :} [15:39] Ready^Go, you could for instance go to http://image.google.com/ and type in "kde screenshot" [15:39] http://fedoranews.org/krishnan/review/kde3.2/fullsize/kde1.png ? [15:39] this it ? [15:39] er, sorry, http://images.google.com/ [15:39] there ya go [15:40] beep media player works :) [15:40] err close enough Ready^Go that is fedora though [15:40] honestly, though, a screenshot doesn't tell you much [15:40] amm [15:40] Sharpie: it may have another name, that's why I suggested to try out different commands that start with "wine-" (and gave you the easiest way to find them out). [15:40] but type kde [15:40] sunogbaga, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49692/ [15:40] Hmmm.... looking for some help with compiz/emerald... the themes only seem to be applying to the window borders, not the taskbar and scroll bars... anyone know how to fix this? [15:40] http://www.kubuntu.org/ Ready^Go [15:40] kubunto its kde ? [15:40] serioussssly off topic I know :} [15:40] Vorbote: yes, i did that and then i said it didn't exist [15:41] Ready^Go, yes [15:41] Onyx: Emerald themes are only for the window borders, GTK themes apply to the scroll bars, buttons, etc. [15:41] MERHABA [15:41] I was logged in as my regular user and created an unpriviliged user. Then I locked the screen and chose to switch user there. After logging into the unpriviliged user and then switching back to my regular user, all apps had been closed (except for the ones running in screen which I could reattach). However, when I switch user without locking the screen first I can switch back without losing my programs. It seems kind of bad that someone is a [15:41] Pici: Ahhh okay, I was under the impression that GTK+ [15:41] Sharpie: hmmm... Then try "win" as starter (as I told you, haven't used wine in a long while). [15:41] & emerald couldn't run together [15:41] !find beepmediaplayer plugins [15:42] !find beep media player plugins [15:42] Package/file beepmediaplayer does not exist in gutsy [15:42] Found: beep, beep-media-player, beep-media-player-dev, beepcore-c-dev, beepcore-c0 (and 1 others) [15:42] Onyx: Perhaps you were thinking of Metacity and emerald [15:42] !usage > lukasz (Please see the private messsage from ubotu) [15:42] ok [15:42] hey everyone, just a quick question. whenever you install custom themes these are installed in ~/.themes and are thus not available for the root user. applications launched via gksu can't adopt the themes. wouldn't a soft link in /root solve all this? [15:42] thnx [15:42] Vorbote: already did that as well, nothing similar [15:42] hi guys whats up you have some good news for the time management software for ubuntu internet cafe? [15:42] bazhang Xenobyte its amaizing [15:43] of course this would only work for single-user installs [15:43] Ready^Go, I like KDE myself [15:43] SELAM KANAL [15:43] BEN0130 ANLIYAN YOKMU [15:43] 10q :) [15:43] I got 0 messages? [15:43] What would I use to edit FLASH (.fla) files, in Ubuntu? [15:43] Sharpie: are you sure you have installed wine at all? The file listing here suggests I'm not giving bad advice... ;-) [15:44] dhcpless configure dhcpd to listen on a specifc interface because atm you have 3 ifaces [15:44] * kafkas selam kanal [15:44] hmm [15:44] !il | kafkas [15:44] kafkas: לשיחות בשפה העברית ולגישה לקהילת המשתמשים העברית אנא הקלד: [15:44] /join #ubuntu-il [15:44] Vorbote: my question wasn't "i'm mentally ill and i think i have wine". i use wine on a regular basis (for guitar pro) :/ [15:44] can anyone tell me how to make sure GDM only runs after nfs-common has run? [15:44] Sharpie: btw, the command is wineprefixcreate [15:45] I've change the symlink to be S21 instead of S13 which should start it after nfs at S20 [15:45] Vorbote: yeah but that's not what i need. i need to remove the gecko ie engine =\ [15:45] !tr | kafkas [15:45] kafkas: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde. [15:45] but my home dir is still not mounted by the time GDM is up... [15:45] Pici, pm [15:45] still no pm? [15:45] dhcpless configure dhcpd to listen on a specifc interface because atm you have 3 ifaces [15:45] !test [15:45] Failed. [15:45] [ Rule 3 ] I did a very good job ;p [15:46] Sharpie: that's not possible yet. You'll need to move your present .wine file somewhere else and start from scratch. (You should have stated that up front :-)) [15:46] !test [15:46] [ Rule 3 ] I did a very good job ;p [15:46] sunogbaga, how do i do that? i modified /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf but is there another file? [15:46] Vorbote: ok, well, nvm then [15:47] Sharpie: there is a script out there that will allow you to install IE6 in a different directory. You can install your other software there then. [15:47] Sharpie: but I don't recall the name, :-( [15:47] Vorbote: my problem wasn't a non-functional ie (i just use ies4linux). i just wanted to remove/fix the gecko engine [15:48] dhcpless that is the correct file.. however you have 3 ifaces vmnet8 vmnet1 and eth0 [15:48] I'm gonna wait patiently :) for the pm in forums [15:48] sunogbaga, those are vmware's i killed vmware but still get the same error [15:49] That's not possible AFAIK. Once it is installed, it is installed for good. I think you need to declare all the IE6 related libraries as non-native to stop wine from trying to install the gecko engine. [15:49] sunogbaga,can you look here:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49693/ it's my dhcpd.conf [15:49] ? [15:50] Is there a way I can lock an unpriviliged user so it can only see what's in /home/unpriviliged ? [15:51] Hi im installing ubunto 7.10, I choose "start / install" from the boot menu but it always seems to try an run in live mode, is there any param i can force the install with? [15:51] anyone around who is very familiar with ext2/3 filesystem? wondering if there's any harm to be done by setting the reserve block count to 0 on a storage drive? [15:51] albator: once it has booted in live mode, it gives you the option to install [15:51] albator: you need to get into the live cd environment first [15:51] Hm, I'm having an issue installing Gutsy on a Dual-Core AMD Opertron System. [15:51] dhcpless hold on, i'll look for the line you will need [15:51] thedracle: what's the issue [15:51] ah, thats a drag, it takes hours as its a celeron with only 256 meg =s [15:51] albator: There's an icon on the desktop, if you click it it'll install. Otherwise you could use the alternate installation cd (which I prefer) and install that way. [15:51] sunogbaga, thanks === GMoonit is now known as Hot_Girl [15:52] vox, Basically, it loads the kernel, but before getting to booting the live-cd system, it breaks into busy box. [15:52] how do I do a text install of ubuntu? [15:52] Boys: I cannot find an icon on my desktop - which is obviously there!! How do i find it?? [15:52] sipher: Download the alternate installation cd. [15:52] thedracle: ah [15:52] krim what!? [15:52] sipher, command line install? use the alternate CD [15:52] =/ lame [15:52] krim: Look up bash restricted or rbash. I havent touched it in years, so I'm not sure if I can help you, but take a look. [15:52] thedracle: i have a mac, and exactlly that happened t first when trying to install gutsy. [15:53] brobostigon, What happened in your case? [15:53] thedracle: i've had that before. trying to think how i fixed it [15:53] sipher: Go to the Ubuntu download page and you'll see. [15:53] dhcpless can u try running dhcp3-server eth0 [15:53] thats quite frustraighting, I left it whirring while i went to the shops and live had booted, I presumed it had defaulted to some option an rebooted it =s [15:53] vox, The 64-bit installation seems a bit more testy than the 32-bit. [15:53] krim problem is I don't exactly have access to download it...and assumed you could simply do something like boot linux text [15:53] i had to load ide_core in blackbox, and then once booted adding ide_core to /etc.modules [15:53] /etc/modules [15:54] thedracle: nah, there's not a great deal of difference. why are you using the 64-bit ver if i may ask? [15:54] sipher: Oh, maybe someone else can help you then. [15:54] sunogbaga, there is no such command [15:54] vox, Because Opertron is a 64-bit system. [15:54] dhcpless there should be, did you install dhcp3-server? [15:54] well, the real problem is installing using the regular gusty i386 install. [15:54] yeah, but do u need 64 bit functionality? [15:54] anyone get ultramonkey working with gutsy? [15:55] albator, Not neccessarily, but why sell myself short? [15:55] thedracle: yes.. all the K8 procs are. but why do you need to run the 64bit variant? [15:55] Boys: I know there is a folder on my desktop - but i cannot see it --- how do i open it??? [15:55] sunogbaga, yes [15:55] dhcpless or try looking for the similar