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iceroot	!pt \| jv_	00:00
ubottu	jv_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	00:00
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gartral1	jewome62: ubuntu is ussually released around 23:00 UTC	00:00
EoL{s}	Can somebody answer a question I have about the Ubuntu 8.10 installer?	00:01
jv_	iceroot: I know that, tx..wondering if there was anyone close to my area...	00:01
gartral1	(least, according to my math >.>)	00:01
tty	lta	00:01
MaT-dg	I have a discussion on this: does 'opensource' mean that the dev's on ubuntu 9.10 have to be 'open' about the new theme('s) or can they hide the state of development until the release?	00:01
iceroot	EoL{s}: #ubuntu+1	00:01
mado	musikgoat\|main, was bedeutet dein befehl auf deutsch?	00:02
iceroot	EoL{s}: ah sorry, get it wrong, just ask the question	00:02
musikgoat\|main	mado, english please, the line was a for loop running that command the number of times in the seq (sequence)	00:02
mado	musikgoat\|main, i wrote in english but you didn't answer ... so i tried german ... because "musik" is the german word for "music" isn't it? :)	00:03
musikgoat\|main	yes	00:03
EoL{s}	iceroot: I have two hard drives, if I erase the partition on one, can I create the appropriate partitions for ubuntu during the installation?	00:03
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: As far as I understand every package has it's own dev mailing list one can subscribe to if they want to...	00:03
n_nm	when can we get 9.04	00:04
iceroot	EoL{s}: yes	00:04
iceroot	n_nm: today (23.04)	00:04
musikgoat\|main	mado: but i'm not german, at least not fully, and I'm not fluent in german :-)	00:04
musikgoat\|main	mado: but thats neither here nor there	00:04
mado	musikgoat\|main, ok :)	00:05
MaT-dg	Lord_Devi: I mean for example: blogging on a public blog with screenshots that show how the new theme and icons wil look like	00:05
musikgoat\|main	mado: i would be careful giving a boss that script though, because then they will expect that you are familiar with bash scripting, and expect more than you can provide ;-)	00:06
mado	musikgoat\|main, :)	00:06
n_nm	i need help enemy territory	00:06
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: I don't think you'll find anything like that. There might be some sort of svn or git available though.	00:06
Sefram	are there any download links for Ubuntu 9.04?	00:07
mado	well ... i won't give my boss the command ... but i will tell her / him ... that i have one to make sure that all the files are completely removed ... but erm musikgoat\|main ...	00:07
musikgoat\|main	mado: otherwise, you can start reading the advanced bash scripting guide for learning some cool tricks with bash	00:07
mado	is there a way to try to recover the files?	00:07
MaT-dg	Lord_Devi: as far as I know they keep it well hidden until the final release (maybe RC) so no git or svn	00:08
mado	well musikgoat\|main ... i'd like to do so ... but i guess i have to learn more basics first :) ... ... erm ... could you suggest me some things i should read ?	00:08
musikgoat\|main	mado: once the bits have been written over, its not feasible to be able to recover the files, there have been studies that say that it is still possible, but those have been debunked	00:08
musikgoat\|main	!absg	00:08
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about absg	00:08
musikgoat\|main	!abs	00:09
ubottu	Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide, obtainable with ${package-manager} install abs-guide, is a quick and comprehensive guide to bash (command line) scripting in *nix systems. It is also viewable via web at http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/	00:09
blip-	ooh boon2	00:09
armagheddonsgw	ok i have issues with pidgin	00:09
armagheddonsgw	its crashing after a certain length of time with msn enabled	00:09
Psi-Jack	Heh, I see what it means by fakeraid now, basically expensive tasks, the raid "hardware" still uses the CPU to do expensive operations. Oi.	00:09
mado	musikgoat\|main, i'm asking because i want to write the "recover"-command too so that they can see that there's not really a way ... i just want to be on the safe side :)	00:10
RantingHuman	armagheddonsgw, do you perchance use any music-I'm-listening-to plugin with pidgin?	00:10
musikgoat\|main	i'm not sure what you mean by a recover comand, i'm not sure one exists	00:10
armagheddonsgw	no	00:10
armagheddonsgw	have done nothing but download the updates ubuntu suggested	00:11
mado	uhuu ... i see ... so ... thinking musikgoat\|main ...	00:11
lucax	whats wrong with intel gma and jaunty rc??	00:11
RantingHuman	hm, maybe someone else knows, then	00:11
armagheddonsgw	also XP32 is refusing to boot	00:11
musikgoat\|main	heh, thats like saying, hmm, this cheese smells funny, and oh yeah, the building is burning down :-)	00:12
Pici	!jaunty	00:12
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	00:12
mado	so ok then ... for only one round -> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy <- ---- and what if i want to to run it more than once ... for example ... twice ... then i will write ,,, for 2 in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ?? musikgoat\|main ?	00:13
armagheddonsgw	got issues with windows: it wont boot since installing ubuntu, and unlike last time, ubuntu is the primary bootloader	00:13
musikgoat\|main	mado, you could simply do: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy && sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy	00:13
musikgoat\|main	mado: but no, your logic was a bit wrong	00:13
gm\|lap	guys, i'm not sure if you're to blame for typos in USB, but:	00:13
gm\|lap	Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0bda:0158 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. Mass Stroage Device	00:13
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mado	uhuu ... ok musikgoat\|main :)	00:14
mado	thank you so far musikgoat\|main :)	00:14
musikgoat\|main	mado: for x in `seq 1 2`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done	00:14
musikgoat\|main	mado: but then the for loop is overkill	00:14
armagheddonsgw	anyone able to help me with the windows thingy?	00:14
FrozenFire	What's the most common open-source Ubuntu PDF reader that can be utilized by FireFox for in-browser PDF viewing?	00:14
mado	for x in `seq 1 10`;do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/xdy; done ... ... would be ten times? musikgoat\|main ?	00:14
mado	oh! musikgoat\|main	00:15
musikgoat\|main	yes mado, try this: for x in `seq 1 10`;do echo $x; done	00:15
FrozenFire	armagheddonsgw: Installing Ubuntu on a secondary partition, or from Wubi?	00:15
armagheddonsgw	wubi?	00:15
armagheddonsgw	but yes, i think	00:15
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human%20Skin I found a place with some beta images for Karmic Koala..	00:15
mrNotYou	Hey	00:15
FrozenFire	Wubi installs Ubuntu within Windows, as "an application"	00:15
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: but yeah you're right, there isn't much in that regards, that's for sure.	00:16
mado	uuh! musikgoat\|main	00:16
mrNotYou	It's 23rd April and Jaunty still not available on stable. Whats going on..?:S	00:16
armagheddonsgw	ah. i installed it from the ubuntu disk	00:16
musikgoat\|main	!outyet \| mrNotYou	00:16
ubottu	mrNotYou: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	00:16
FrozenFire	armagheddonsgw: Are you absolutely sure you didn't install Ubuntu over top of Windows, destroying the Windows partition?	00:16
mado	mrNotYou, what is the time in you time-zone ?	00:16
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: I read a quote where Mark says they might be looking into colours OTHER than brown for 9.10! wow...	00:16
armagheddonsgw	100% sure	00:16
CaneToad	I find that when printing, some document print fine, but others somehow get their status changed to "Held". There's no report of any error, but such documents are not printing. What does "Held" mean?	00:16
mrNotYou	mado: +2	00:17
armagheddonsgw	the boot program crashes for windows	00:17
noodly-appendage	mrNotYou: where do yo live?	00:17
armagheddonsgw	it does load though	00:17
MaT-dg	Lord_Devi: thx for link, but I don't think that that is the new 'ultimate' theme for 9.10	00:17
FrozenFire	armagheddonsgw: I'm not sure Windows likes GRUB without some hacking	00:17
burvowski	hi everyone, i just installed ubuntu on my laptop, and the graphics are kind of jittery....how do i go about updating drivers?	00:17
mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: My time zone is +2. it's now 2:17 so even centrally, it shlould be 23rd..	00:17
maxriskfactor	any idea at what time Jaunty would be out? Its still showing RC availability on the page	00:18
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: haha, yeah.. Good lord better not be. hah. It's more than I expected to find though.	00:18
noodly-appendage	Where is +2? Alaska?	00:18
MaT-dg	Lord_Devi: Indeed, apperantly they hired some real designers and are going to do a total overhaul (high hopes for new ubercool theme ^^)	00:18
musikgoat\|main	mrNotYou: historically, the releases have never come out at midnight UTC, i would assume it wont come out till afternoon UTC	00:18
armagheddonsgw	grrrr damnit! pidgin crashed again	00:18
mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: lol no;p athens.	00:18
hadis	mine is+8 so it's 07:18...	00:18
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: I'm obsessed with eye candy myself. I hear ya.	00:18
CaneToad	anyone know how to diagnose a "Held" CUPS print job that hasn't printed?	00:18
Ned2	I don't think it's 23rd yet anywhere in the U.S.	00:18
armagheddonsgw	what were you saying whoever it was who was helping?	00:18
mado	uhuu	00:19
mrNotYou	Ned2: It is though 12:20 in GMT	00:19
Ned2	it's still 22nd 1:19pm where I am	00:19
maxriskfactor	the time is 23rd UTC?	00:19
Lord_Devi	armagheddonsgw: Pidgin is a PoS. I'm so happy to be using Kopete again myself.	00:19
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adamy	It's already 6am GMT+7 Hahaha	00:19
Lord_Devi	armagheddonsgw: A man's Im client.	00:19
FrozenFire	armagheddonsgw: I was saying that Windows doesn't like GRUB without some hacking, if I recall correctly.	00:19
noodly-appendage	mrNotYou: if 23:59 rolls around and still no ubuntu, then there would be a problem but it'll come soon enough	00:19
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mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: Oh ok.	00:20
mrNotYou	Btw, any of you people know some major changes that will be from 8.10 to jaunty?	00:20
Ned2	mrNotYou, what states?	00:20
armagheddonsgw	ballocks. ok how do i fix it?	00:20
Milo	I installed 8.10 and now no matter what I do i have a blank screen (monitor has no signal). tried to install from winxp..can someone give me a little guidance?	00:20
noodly-appendage	mrNotYou: if you download the rc, you can probably update via apt once it comes ou t	00:20
MaT-dg	Lord_Devi: well, I like it the way it is now (unity theme and compiz eyecandy), but lot's of people don't like the brown and don't know how to tweak	00:20
FrozenFire	armagheddonsgw: I have never had to do it, as I don't use Windows, but http://blog.firetree.net/2005/08/26/duel-boot-windows-with-grub/	00:20
armagheddonsgw	ok ty	00:21
mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: Nah, im interested in burning the stable on disc cause I wanna install it on another computer too so yahh..	00:21
WS\|Thermal	Noodly's right though.	00:21
vern_	i just converted my ext3 filesystem to ext4, the release notes tell me to run grub-install after. what parameters do I give grub-install? Ubuntu is installed in /dev/sda3 while the first partitions are used for windows. much thanks for any answer i can get!	00:21
alcane	is there a way to save text from links2?	00:21
WS\|Thermal	I installed 8.04 when it was in RC and it auto-updated to release later.	00:21
noodly-appendage	at least internet connections are fast enough so downloading 1 cd's worth of data doesn't take a week anymore :)	00:21
gene420	any xen experts??	00:21
MaT-dg	MaT-dg: And I like eyecandy, but at the same time it has to be clean and simple (not bloated like live messenger for example)	00:22
WS\|Thermal	Vern_: Unless you set /boot/ to be a different partition	00:22
mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: lol;p here prices are extreme though so im only on 2mbps;/	00:22
Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: just switched back to KDE 4.2(Finally stable! Finally usable!) a couple days ago. It feels SO great to be back in an environment I can really control and alter to my liking. So much more functionality AND eye candy than gnome...	00:22
WS\|Thermal	GRUB should be installed/stored on your Ubuntu partition.	00:22
mrNotYou	noodly-appendage: took about an hour or two to download last version;p not that tragic;p	00:22
WS\|Thermal	Vern_: What parameters is it asking for?	00:22
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Lord_Devi	MaT-dg: Hehe.. yeah, well clean and simple went out with window managers. Now we have 'environments'. I like it though... handy for the lazy.	00:23
hadis	We can update 9.04 online from 8.10 ,yes??	00:23
Lord_Devi	hadis: Just run 'update-manager -d' from within 8.10	00:23
mrNotYou	hadis: yeap	00:23
Lord_Devi	(while in gnome)	00:23
WS\|Thermal	Hadis: I wouldn't recommend it.	00:24
musikgoat\|main	hadis: yes, run update-manager -d	00:24
armagheddonsgw	unfortunately the link is not helpful. i cant edit the necessary file for some stupid reason	00:24
vern_	hmm grub-install /dev/sda3 seems to work and my laptop now boots up correctly, i was just making sure because doing the exact same steps previously made my system unbootable	00:24
WS\|Thermal	You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.	00:24
vern_	thanks thermal	00:24
musikgoat\|main	WS\|Thermal: why not?	00:24
WS\|Thermal	Vern_: Download and burn Super Grub Disk.	00:24
WS\|Thermal	You can use that to restore a FUBAR'd GRUB if you need to.	00:24
vern_	good tip, thanks	00:25
WS\|Thermal	Musikgoat\|main: <WS\|Thermal> You can definitely do it; but upgrades are sometimes risky.	00:25
Lord_Devi	vern_: he meant to add "if you can make sense of it" ;)	00:25
WS\|Thermal	I've had my install broken going from 6.06 to 6.10 beyond repair; and a number of other releases too. Its probably much smoother and more likely to succeed now, but a clean install seems to be the way to go.	00:25
Ned2	what if I just back everything up first? is that still risky?	00:25
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: I did actually mean to add that. Silly me.	00:26
armagheddonsgw	ok, how can i restore my comp to its previous state? i.e. before installing ubuntu?	00:26
musikgoat\|main	WS\|Thermal: i'll give you that	00:26
WS\|Thermal	Vern_: You're welcome.	00:26
* Lord_Devi grins		00:26
MaT-dg	musikgoat\|main: hadis: It can be risky sometimes (7.10 to 8.04 no problems, but 8.04 to 8.10 failed here and had to do clean install anyway) AND you miss the new filesystem EXT4	00:26
WS\|Thermal	musikgoat\|main: I'm being paranoid, yes, but I just wanted to let him know that there are risks. Usually it works fine.	00:26
musikgoat\|main	MaT-dg: you don't miss it if you don't want it ;-)	00:26
froosch	MaT-dg: is that the buggy e4 or something else?	00:26
MaT-dg	hadis: so whatever you do, ALWAYS make sure u have a backup of your important data	00:27
musikgoat\|main	froosch: the major, i'm going to eat all you data bits for lunch, bug is fixed	00:27
WS\|Thermal	MaT-dg: Does the conversion not work?	00:27
MaT-dg	musikgoat\|main: why wouldn't u want it? It promises to be much faster	00:27
* Lord_Devi appears in a devil suit beside hadis, Don't bother! Backups take so much time. Wouldn't you rather be gaming?		00:27
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	00:27
WS\|Thermal	musikgoat\|main: BtrFS looks promising :)	00:27
blerk	12:30am BST, time to release 9.04 yet? :p	00:27
musikgoat\|main	WS\|Thermal: agreed	00:27
WS\|Thermal	musikgoat\|main: very excited about ext4 though.	00:27
klu	has 9.04 CD image been released?	00:27
MaT-dg	froosch: they said it will be stable in the final release (solved some bug in the RC)	00:28
Lord_Devi	Yay BtrFS! The ZFS killer!	00:28
mrNotYou	!outyet	00:28
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	00:28
WS\|Thermal	klu: still in RC, but you can upgrade from the RC to the final release easily.	00:28
Icefyre	IS ext4 going to be much faster than ext3?	00:28
ActionParsnip	mrNotYou: nice factoid	00:28
Icefyre	I heard there are issues with data not being written in time	00:28
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: Early benchmarks indicate a HUGE boost.	00:28
WS\|Thermal	But only in some areas.	00:28
klu	WS\|Thermal, I heard it has been distributed to some server	00:28
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: ive heard it is faster but is a bit flakey right now	00:28
musikgoat\|main	klu: lies	00:28
klu	JUst don't know the url	00:28
Icefyre	so it isn't as stable for hard reboots	00:28
digitaloktay	but i have freezez with ext4	00:28
Icefyre	cool	00:28
WS\|Thermal	klu: Official releases are the best way to go... if its been "leaked" its fake.	00:28
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klu	i c	00:28
klu	thx guys	00:29
Icefyre	anyone try the RC?	00:29
WS\|Thermal	klu: Canonical doesn't leak intentionally; unlike Microsoft :P	00:29
mrNotYou	STABLE IS OUT ON FTP:p	00:29
klu	can't wait :)	00:29
Icefyre	I heard it has killer themes	00:29
WS\|Thermal	mrNotYou: Whaa?	00:29
ActionParsnip	mrNotYou: just install beta then upgrade to stable	00:29
tuxFan	its jaunty out?	00:29
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: depends on DE	00:29
ActionParsnip	!jaunty	00:29
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	00:29
Icefyre	I think tomorrow it comes out	00:29
WS\|Thermal	unstable ubuntu is more stable than stable windows tbh	00:29
randomusr	hi, I'm trying to use an OS X theme by creating a link, how is this accomplished?	00:29
musikgoat\|main	hi ActionParsnip	00:29
Icefyre	depends on DE?	00:29
ActionParsnip	hi musikgoat\|main	00:29
Icefyre	what's a DE?	00:30
WS\|Thermal	Death Eel.	00:30
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: What death eel do you have?	00:30
digitaloktay	DE = Deutschland Germany :P	00:30
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: well if you use kde / gnome / fluxbox / lxde / flwm, the desktop will look different	00:30
Icefyre	lol	00:30
Icefyre	I meant the GNOME themes	00:30
MaT-dg	it's april 23, 01:30AM GMT+1 here... release for me! xD	00:30
Icefyre	rather	00:30
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: He meant desktop environment, we're just screwing with you.	00:30
Icefyre	the GTK themes	00:30
FloodBot2	Icefyre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	00:30
Icefyre	that ship with it	00:30
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: you can use any gnome theme you can lay your hands on (?)	00:30
WS\|Thermal	FloodBot2: Icefyre is flooding! :O	00:31
Icefyre	yeah, but its nicer not having to go to gnomelook everytime I install ubuntu	00:31
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: I the only unstable part of Ubuntu.. pretty much ever, are the proprietary drivers.	00:31
musikgoat\|main	gnome-look.org	00:31
Lord_Devi	Either 3d drivers, or wifi drivers..	00:31
Icefyre	the brown theme is the only downside to it	00:31
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: i use lxde + kubuntu personally. i dont concern myself with "looks"	00:31
Icefyre	I know that website pretty well	00:31
Icefyre	go there often	00:31
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: Err sorry. I meant for ME.	00:31
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: My friend had Vista/Ubuntu dual-booted.	00:31
Nasra	hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc, should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?	00:31
Nasra	thanks	00:31
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Somehow he made Ubuntu corrupt the tiniest bit of data.	00:31
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: I hear those two do not play well together.	00:31
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Then he booted Vista and vista managed to hose the ENTIRE partition table.	00:31
Icefyre	I've managed to put ubuntu on some vista machines	00:31
Icefyre	works a lot faster	00:32
racecar56	back	00:32
ActionParsnip	Lord_Devi: thats a part of ANY distro, not just ubuntu	00:32
derrick-mary	hello I deleted both panels on ubuntu 8.04 64 how do i reinstall	00:32
Icefyre	people I do it to had no clue their pc could be so fast	00:32
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Vista just hates everything, including itself	00:32
Icefyre	why reinstall?	00:32
* Lord_Devi shakes his head		00:32
Jack_Sparrow	!ot	00:32
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	00:32
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: I have unstable builds of Win7 here though, because of my dad, and its much better.	00:32
Icefyre	can't u just re-enable the panels?	00:32
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: thats because vista's minimal requirements are higher than a default ubbuntu install	00:32
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Under NDA though so I can't say more than that.	00:32
Icefyre	Win7 isn't as good as XP	00:32
derrick-mary	cause my awn doesn't start up when i reboot	00:32
Jack_Sparrow	derrick-mary you should not need to reinstall, you should be able to reset the panels	00:32
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: if you want it faster, install puppy linux	00:32
Icefyre	in terms of performance	00:32
Icefyre	lol	00:32
derrick-mary	even with it being checked to do so	00:32
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: Win7 will be. Seriously.	00:32
Icefyre	I love puppy!	00:32
musikgoat\|main	i wonder how many people are going to visit IRC when #ubuntu+1 is merged with #ubuntu, wasn't there like 1800 or so people for the intrepid release	00:32
Icefyre	awesome distro	00:33
WS\|Thermal	The beta SUCKS compared to the current builds.	00:33
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: I still haven't tried Vista even.. I only have XP for games, and the benchmarks frown on Vista performance numbers compared to Xp	00:33
Jack_Sparrow	Icefyre Please dont flood	00:33
ActionParsnip	derrick-mary: create a script to execute it and add it to !startup	00:33
derrick-mary	how do you do that?	00:33
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: For non DX10 games of course. I hope Win7 is a little less bloat than Vista	00:33
ActionParsnip	Icefyre: tried xpud? boots in about 4 seconds here	00:33
zach2825	hi guys	00:33
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Win7 is so much better. I love it.	00:33
Icefyre	what is the limit on sentences per second? I'm being warned against flooding...	00:33
Blaze_Boy	Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but bluetooth and modem are dead ? what i have to do to get them work ?	00:33
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: The beta is only a glimpse of the improvements. Its actually really high quality stuff.	00:33
Nasra	hi all, question, if I want to put back my Gnome Desktop on my test pc, should I just sudo or have to uninstall KDE Desktop first?	00:33
derrick-mary	action parsnip---how?	00:34
ActionParsnip	derrick-mary: i'd look into what scripting involves and work from there	00:34
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: Anything above 2 per minute.	00:34
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: Oh ok cool. I'll give that one a try then. It means more to me when it comes from a *buntu fella.	00:34
ActionParsnip	derrick-mary: or ask in #bash	00:34
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: As much as I hate M$, (seriously), win7 actually excites me.	00:34
Jack_Sparrow	derrick-mary To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »	00:34
digitaloktay	Icefyre, join #ubuntu-release-party	00:34
Icefyre	Win7 looks just like vista with some of the stuff taken out	00:34
Icefyre	it is vista SP 2	00:34
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Its kind of funny when you work for Microsoft and you're son is an open-source advocate who hates Microsoft. Its an interesting dynamic.	00:34
Jack_Sparrow	Nasra Did you ever uninstall it, ie can you get to it under options where you login to ubuntu	00:34
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: Well as a network tech, i'm just interested in how well Win7 plays with others.(Groupware squites, AD.. that sorta thing)	00:35
WS\|Thermal	Icefyre: Much more than that, imo. The best way to summarize it is "vista that works"	00:35
thebloggu	what directories besides /home should i backup for an upgrade ?	00:35
Lord_Devi	:%s/squites/suites	00:35
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: depends what you use	00:35
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Can't tell you much on that. The network stack has seen some improvements.	00:35
Lord_Devi	WS\|Thermal: I HATE fighting with WIndows on job :(	00:35
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: if you use samba, backup /etc/samba/smb.conf	00:35
Jack_Sparrow	!ot	00:35
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	00:35
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: I suggest you grab a leaked build of win7 off some torrents, if you need to test it	00:35
WS\|Thermal	Lord_Devi: Install it on a VM or a non-production machine though.	00:35
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: if you use apache, backup /var/www	00:36
Jack_Sparrow	WS\|Thermal Please stay on topic	00:36
thebloggu	ActionParsnip, i use samba indeed, no apache	00:36
WS\|Thermal	Jack_Sparrow: Yeah, I did deviate there for a bit. Sorry.	00:36
Jack_Sparrow	ty	00:36
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: you need to think about what you se and backup that, you should have a backup anyway if the data is important	00:36
WS\|Thermal	No problem.	00:36
musikgoat\|main	thebloggu: you may want to backup all of /etc	00:36
thebloggu	ActionParsnip, ok, thank you	00:36
thebloggu	musikgoat\|main, ok, why ?	00:37
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: it contains a fewconfig files like hosts, resolv.conf, stuff like that	00:37
musikgoat\|main	thebloggu: that holds all your configuration files, you can reference the backup if you find that a program doesn't work the way you remember	00:37
musikgoat\|main	its usually pretty small in size as well	00:38
thebloggu	musikgoat\|main, ActionParsnip ok, thank you :)	00:38
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: if you havent modified stuff in thre then you dont need to bother	00:38
psychic	musikgoat	00:38
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: considring its 8Mb (on mine it is) you may as well, if its unneeded, you havent wasted much	00:40
musikgoat\|main	psychic: yes?	00:40
psychic	i tried doing that what u told me but it shows up differnt in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/156210/	00:40
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: cd /; clear; sudo du -skh *	00:40
mecca_	I just installed (and fully updated) Jaunty. For some reason, ssh will not start when the machine reboots, even though I've verified that it is set up to auto start (via sysv-rc-conf as well as update-rc.d ssh defaults) Any ideas?	00:40
ActionParsnip	mecca_: sudo apt-get --reinstall install openssh-server	00:41
Jack_Sparrow	psychic What did you use as an editor?	00:41
musikgoat\|main	psychic: you have not moved the second part of the last line to the next line	00:41
thebloggu	ActionParsnip, you're right	00:41
psychic	terminal	00:41
thebloggu	ActionParsnip, 16Metc	00:41
Jack_Sparrow	!editor	00:41
musikgoat\|main	psychic: remember i said to move to 0/dev and hit enter after the 0	00:41
ubottu	Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code	00:41
psychic	no i know i didnt see the mnt part	00:41
musikgoat\|main	Jack_Sparrow: he's using nano	00:41
Jack_Sparrow	ty	00:41
mecca_	ActionParsnip: I've done that as well	00:42
ActionParsnip	thebloggu: may as well, eh	00:42
musikgoat\|main	psychic: the $ means theres more to the line,	00:42
psychic	o ok i misread	00:42
Crash1hd	I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?	00:42
Nasra	Jack_Sparrow: no, I did not uninstall it is still there ..have no try it yet...but if that's so...what should I do?	00:42
musikgoat\|main	psychic: you must arrow over	00:42
ActionParsnip	mecca_: sudo apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install openssh-server	00:42
Nasra	Jack_Sparrow: and by the way mine show ...kubuntu when I reboot it	00:42
Jack_Sparrow	Nasra you can set gnome as the default or read the factoid	00:42
Jack_Sparrow	!puregnome	00:43
MaT-dg	trying to compile a plugin for pidgin on 8.10 but I get this (cryptical for me) error -> http://pastebin.com/d4c7c3300	00:43
ubottu	If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »	00:43
psychic	i arrowed over and pressed enter	00:43
mecca_	ActionParsnip: Good point, I haven't completely removed it and re-installed. I'll give it a shot, thanks	00:43
* Dolo is starting to lose it - when does 9.04 get released!?!		00:43
drinkycrow	what's the difference between .04 and .10 releases?	00:43
musikgoat\|main	Dolo: better find what you lost	00:43
ActionParsnip	mecca_: worth ashot	00:43
Pici	drinkycrow: The month they were released.	00:43
aymen	hi	00:43
Pici	drinkycrow: 04 = April, 10 = october	00:43
Crash1hd	simNIX: I dont have to worry about windows viruses on exe in ubuntu right?	00:43
randomusr	I want to install an OSX theme but don't understand the concept, could someone explain this a bit?	00:43
Nasra	Jack_Sparrow: no need to uninstall it, correct?	00:43
Pici	!outyet \| Dolo	00:44
ubottu	Dolo: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	00:44
aymen	i have problem can help me	00:44
Jack_Sparrow	Nasra Yes and no	00:44
carlitos__	maldito hijo de puta	00:44
drinkycrow	that makes sense	00:44
ActionParsnip	randomusr: http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac	00:44
musikgoat\|main	psychic: so, are you figuring it out?	00:44
carlitos__	traes papel y jodes webon	00:44
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Nasra	Jack_Sparrow: let me reboot it and see...brb thanks	00:44
musikgoat\|main	!es \| carlitos__	00:44
ubottu	carlitos__: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	00:44
MaT-dg	Crash1hd: u don't have to worr about windows virusses at all	00:44
psychic	so should it look like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156213/	00:45
musikgoat\|main	psychic: yes	00:45
ActionParsnip	!ask \| aymen	00:45
ubottu	aymen: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	00:45
psychic	now just save?	00:45
Crash1hd	MaT-dg: ok can I clean a hdd that has a windows virus on it through some software on ubuntu?	00:45
musikgoat\|main	psychic: but you can try commenting out the /mnt/	00:45
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^Phantom2^	Okay, I'm back.	00:45
musikgoat\|main	psychic: add a # to that line... before the /mnt	00:45
musikgoat\|main	psychic: then save and exit	00:46
Jack_Sparrow	Crash1hd clamav	00:46
Challenger	Hey, I'm looking for Finnish Ubuntu fans and the Finnish Ubuntu mailing list.	00:46
Jack_Sparrow	!virus	00:46
ubottu	A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21	00:46
Pici	!fi \| Challenger	00:46
ubottu	Challenger: Tämä kanava on tarkoitettu vain englanninkieliselle keskustelulle. Jos haluat suomenkielistä apua (K)ubuntun ongelmiin, liity kanavalle #ubuntu-fi / #kubuntu-fi :-)	00:46
Crash1hd	Jack_Sparrow: thanks	00:46
Challenger	:P	00:46
Jack_Sparrow	np	00:46
ActionParsnip	!finland	00:46
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about finland	00:46
ActionParsnip	!finnish	00:46
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about finnish	00:46
Pici	ActionParsnip: I already did the factoid.	00:46
ActionParsnip	bah	00:46
inasmu	!askthebot	00:46
ubottu	Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".	00:46
randomusr	that sucked	00:46
randomusr	let me try this again	00:47
^Phantom2^	I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR 950 Hybrid Stick tv-tuner, and I am having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize it and allow me to watch tv with it. Is there anything I can do about this problem?	00:47
randomusr	could someone explain how to install a Theme like OSX?	00:47
EoL{s}	iceroot: Still there?	00:47
Pici	!changethemes \| randomusr seen this	00:47
ubottu	randomusr seen this: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes	00:47
mrNotYou	randomusr: Yeap	00:47
ActionParsnip	randomusr: check that link, it will tll you how to configure it	00:47
randomusr	Thanks All	00:48
Jack_Sparrow	randomusr Look into cairo-dock and it has an osx theme	00:48
mrNotYou	randomusr: gnome-look.org. get an osx theme there. then get cairo-dock, it will allow you to put a dock like the os x dock on windows	00:48
* ^Phantom2^ sits and waits, while petting the cat		00:48
randomusr	mrNotYou I want to change the look of window managers, Icons, etc	00:48
mrNotYou	randomusr: you can get all of that from gnome-look.org	00:49
musikgoat\|main	randomusr: gnome-look.org has that	00:49
randomusr	I know how to get the dock	00:49
mrNotYou	randomusr: then get cairo-dock and set the dock;)	00:49
mrNotYou	and ure done;)	00:49
maximo	Jack_Sparrow: rather uninstall kde desktop and install gnome desktop, whatis the command for doing that?	00:49
randomusr	I want my windows and everything to match lol	00:49
ActionParsnip	randomusr: search synaptic, you can install avant-window-navigator or cairo-dock	00:49
EoL{s}	If I shrink a partition using Windows Vista, and I choose "use largest continuous free space" installer option, will that affect any of my other partitions?	00:49
randomusr	OK again, I know hot to get the dock	00:50
randomusr	I want a better overall look	00:50
Jack_Sparrow	!puregnome	00:50
ubottu	If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 ; sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop »	00:50
randomusr	I'll check the themes page	00:50
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: after shrinking, the largest contiguous space will be the space you made	00:50
maximo	Jack_Sparrow: thanks	00:50
Jack_Sparrow	randomusr then what you want is subject and not really what we do here	00:50
Jack_Sparrow	maximo np	00:50
EoL{s}	ACtionParsnip: Yeah, but, the little bar shows Ubuntu 100% on the whole hard drive.	00:50
Jack_Sparrow	subjective	00:50
ActionParsnip	randomusr: look round for stuff to add is all i can suggest	00:50
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: then its not right	00:51
djlinux64	is the 9.04 release in 5 hours, at midnight?	00:51
Pici	!outyet \| djlinux64	00:51
ubottu	djlinux64: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	00:51
MaT-dg	can I use windows driver for my webcam like u can use windows drivers for networkcard with ndiswrapper?	00:51
Jack_Sparrow	djlinux64 doubtful	00:51
psychic	musikgoat this right? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/	00:51
djlinux64	more like 29 hours?	00:51
EoL{s}	ACtionParsnip: Should I disregard it?	00:51
jsast21	join #ubuntu-release-party	00:51
Pici	djlinux64: More like when its done.	00:51
djlinux64	got it thx	00:51
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: if you plan your partitions you do not have to resize as you can make the windows partition use only part of the drive	00:51
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: no, do not disregard it	00:52
Othor	\join #linuxoutlaws	00:52
simNIX	i like them :0	00:52
g4lv4tr0n	just noticed countdown on ubuntu site has now changed from 1 day to go to coming soon	00:52
EoL{s}	ActionParsnip: I reduced the Windows Vista partition by about 17 gigabytes.	00:52
^Phantom2^	EoL{s}: good job	00:53
Pelle	Noob Q: I cant copy a simple folder! I first select cut, but then I cant paste it where I want it	00:53
EoL{s}	But it still shows 100% ubuntu, and I don't want that...	00:53
^Phantom2^	honestly, i'll never go past windows XP until Micro$haft puts out a fully working OS	00:53
^Phantom2^	besides, i like ubuntu a lot now	00:53
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: Ive never used resize as i plan my partitions first	00:54
ActionParsnip	EoL{s}: so im not the guy to ask	00:54
g4lv4tr0n	jaunty has real good wine support :)	00:54
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Pelle	paste is grayed out	00:54
EoL{s}	Oh, ok then.	00:54
g4lv4tr0n	i used to get access violation in intrepid with most things on wine	00:54
ActionParsnip	^Phantom2^: xp rarely works	00:54
n2diy	does Ubuntu work with AIM?	00:55
ActionParsnip	g4lv4tr0n: wine is maintained by wine, its not got much to do with ubuntu	00:55
Pelle	someone know what I do wrong?	00:55
Rodya	I've managed to screw up my file permissions... When doing ls -ahl, I am seeing drwsrwsrwx for directories, and I don't know what the s is or how to make it go away, any help?	00:55
ActionParsnip	n2diy: theres pidgin	00:55
EoL{s}	ActionParsnip: I'll try to do it manually then. Just one thing, one guide told me to make the slack space 500mb, another told me to make it double my computer memory. Which is best?	00:55
wrice_	Pelle: You may not have the appropriate permissions to move the folder	00:56
g4lv4tr0n	yeah i know but in intrepid it was broke no matter what ver of wine you were using	00:56
sparta	when i try to do an aptitude update in ubuntu it gives the following error :http://paste.ubuntu.com/156220/	00:56
Pelle	how do I fix that wrice_? I want to move from home/pelle to usr/sbin	00:56
g4lv4tr0n	wow and bf2 would give access violation on both wine and cedega due to intrepid	00:56
sparta	can someone please check why?	00:56
lstarnes	sparta: are you still using 7.04?	00:57
wrice_	Pelle: Only root can paste into /usr/sbin.	00:57
^Phantom2^	it picks up s-video and composite but not tv	00:58
Pelle	wrice_: allright, how to do that?	00:58
sparta	yes	00:58
EoL{s}	Guess I'll go with four gigs. Thanks for the help, all.	00:58
pilif12p	Hi	00:58
efjc_	ypops or fetchyahoo, any rekomendations?	00:58
Idespnnr	anyone here familiar with boxee?	00:59
pilif12p	My task bar has dissapeared!	00:59
KyleK	can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?	00:59
pilif12p	Help please!	00:59
sparta	lstarnes: yes 7.04	00:59
lstarnes	sparta: support for that release ended back in october	01:00
pilif12p	Please	01:00
pilif12p	I need help	01:00
pilif12p	My task bar is gone!	01:00
lstarnes	pilif12p: just be patient and someone will answer you when they are able to	01:00
pilif12p	the bar at the bottom	01:00
pilif12p	okay	01:00
lstarnes	sparta: you should probably upgrade to a newer version like 8.04 or 8.10	01:01
lstarnes	pilif12p: is the whole bottom panel gone?	01:01
pilif12p	yeah	01:01
gardar	pilif12p, right click the panel at top and choose add panel	01:01
wrice_	Pelle: 'sudo mv'	01:01
gartral1	so, i have an nvidia 6200, how do i use the DVI port as main? right now, i have BOTH ports routed into my monitor, but DVI displays nothing, only VGA...	01:01
pilif12p	okay	01:01
pilif12p	but nothing is on there	01:01
Pelle	wrice_: i use the filebrowser in the desktop	01:02
Flynsarmy	New ubuntu today people! Lock your doors, empty your calendars because its upgrading time	01:02
usser	gartral1, unplug vga and restart xorg	01:02
pilif12p	Please?	01:02
pilif12p	Nothing on the pannel	01:02
lsbrum	How do I apply a patch to an installed program? The vsftpd is a bug with utf8 encoding and I found a patch.	01:02
^Phantom2^	well	01:02
zetheroo	is Jaunty not released yet?	01:02
usser	lsbrum, you have to recompile from sources	01:03
pilif12p	just email me at admin@pilif12p(dot)com	01:03
wrice_	Pelle: You'll want to open gnome-terminal and run 'sudo mv /home/pelle/source /usr/sbin/destination' or something similar	01:03
^Phantom2^	here's what works: the tvtuner program picks up the input modes of my tvtuner (s-video and composite) without audio, and no tv signal is picked up	01:03
^Phantom2^	i'm using tvtime, btw	01:03
gardar	I'm not sure what timezone ubuntu will be released	01:03
gardar	should be GMT	01:03
gardar	which is now	01:03
mecca_	ActionParsnip: Thanks for all of the suggestions, the problem ended up being that /etc/rc.d/S16ssh was being executed before dhclient had grabbed an IP address so it freaked out. I moved it to S99ssh and everythings working fine	01:03
gartral1	usser: restart xorg is ctrl+alt+backspace, right?	01:03
usser	gartral1, yes	01:03
ActionParsnip	mecca_: sweet	01:04
maximo	Jack_Sparrow: sorry to bother you but when I reboot I see the kubuntu logo on it (blue)...want to see Ubuntu logo instead, what do I do ?	01:04
maximo	thanks	01:04
Pelle	wrice_: Okey, I'll try it	01:04
usser	!info startupmanager \| maximo	01:04
ubottu	maximo: startupmanager (source: startupmanager): Grub and Splash screen configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.11-1 (intrepid), package size 88 kB, installed size 1016 kB	01:04
lsbrum	usser, Can I apply the patch and then make a .deb? You know a good manual for creating .deb packages?	01:04
usser	lsbrum, checkinstall is a great quick way to create deb packages of uncomplicated programs	01:05
mdg	Whats a good, quick way to share files over local network?	01:05
usser	!info checkinstall	01:05
ubottu	checkinstall (source: checkinstall): installation tracker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-7ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 113 kB, installed size 544 kB	01:05
maximo	usser: how do i do it then?	01:05
usser	lsbrum, pretty much ./configure and make like you would with a source code and then instead of make install use checkinstall	01:05
simNIX	mdg; sh fs or nfs or samba ?	01:05
^Phantom2^	How can I get tvtime to pick up the audio from my tv tuner?	01:05
usser	maximo, install startupmanager its pretty self-explanatory	01:06
lsbrum	usser, ok..	01:06
KyleK	can I use the 8.10 livecd to install to /dev/md0 or do i need to use a different installer?	01:06
maximo	ok	01:06
mdg	simNIX: What's the easiest to setup?	01:06
usser	^Phantom2^, usually tuner is connected to the soundcard by an audio cable check that yours is.	01:06
simNIX	mdg; is it to share to windows boxes or only to *nix ?	01:06
mdg	simNIX: Only nix	01:06
usser	^Phantom2^, then in tv time select audio source as "line in"	01:07
Sergiu	hi	01:07
Sergiu	when the ubuntu 9.04 will be realised?	01:07
Sergiu	)	01:07
usser	Sergiu, today	01:07
simNIX	nfs and ssh fs are both simple in setup - nfs = unencrypted / ssh fs is over ssh so encrypted - quick and simplest I think nfs	01:07
KyleK	mdg: nfs is quicker to setup but I've had more finicky problems	01:07
xerxes	in a few hours, Sergiu	01:07
usser	Sergiu, sorry tomorrow	01:07
^Phantom2^	mine is connected on the tvtuner physically	01:07
KyleK	but its tomorrow in my timezone! ;)	01:07
gardar	you can use nfs with ssh, and then it's encrypted	01:08
Sergiu	:D	01:08
^Phantom2^	it's part of the input cord for devices to plug into the tuner	01:08
xerxes	But you can take the daily snapshot also, Sergiu	01:08
psychic	musikgoat still in	01:08
psychic	?	01:08
xerxes	!daily	01:08
ubottu	Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/	01:08
simNIX	gardar, by default or by tunneling it ?	01:08
gardar	by tunneling it :)	01:08
Pelle	wrice_: ok it worked :) want to help me furher? I'm doing this: ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/	01:08
usser	^Phantom2^, its ouput actually. where does the sound cable end up?	01:08
simNIX	worth considering ...	01:08
mdg	simNIX and KyleK - one box is running Mint 6 and has giver, the other box is mint 5 - no Giver	01:08
usser	^Phantom2^, did the same setup work on windows?	01:08
^Phantom2^	it plugs into the dongle on the tuner	01:08
gardar	I use it when I mount outside of my local network	01:09
gardar	works just fine	01:09
^Phantom2^	usser: yes it did	01:09
maximo	usser: it's say already installed the startupmananger....how do I choose the ubuntu one as a startup from rebooting?	01:09
maximo	thanks	01:09
usser	maximo, sudo startupmanager	01:09
maximo	did that	01:09
* mimor is away: zzz		01:09
usser	maximo, there's a list of boot splashes	01:09
maximo	where?	01:09
mimor	sorry for the away message	01:10
usser	^Phantom2^, so the audio cable is connected to the soundcard?	01:10
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reid	PROject-Emerald: whats up =P	01:10
usser	^Phantom2^, mine was a straight, tvtuner audio out -> souncard line in	01:10
^Phantom2^	it's connected to the tv tuner	01:10
PROject-Emerald	Nm.	01:10
PROject-Emerald	How do you mount a .iso to make a bootable disk?	01:10
maximo	usser: sudo apt-get startupmanager ubuntu-desktop	01:10
usser	^Phantom2^, so i just used line-in as a sound source in tvtime	01:10
reid	PROject-Emerald: you shouldn't need to mount it	01:11
usser	maximo, nope	01:11
Pelle	wrice_: now witch one is the perl-script, and how to I make a cache?	01:11
maximo	damn	01:11
reid	PROject-Emerald: just double click the iso file, and it should prompt you for what you want to do with it	01:11
reid	PROject-Emerald: one of those options are burn to CD/DVD	01:11
PROject-Emerald	I'm trying to put Kubuntu on a CD-R to make a bootdisk	01:11
usser	maximo, open startupmanager you'll see it	01:11
maximo	ok	01:11
PROject-Emerald	Will that make it bootable? I only have one CD left	01:11
Pelle	wrice_: and later, where is the "startup scripts"?	01:11
psychic	how do i save my modifications in terminal???	01:12
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: download the iso and open it with your cd writer, the iso is bootable	01:12
reid	PROject-Emerald: if it says "burn image to CD/DVD", then if the .iso is of a bootable CD, then it will be bootable	01:12
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PROject-Emerald	Ok, I doubleclicked the Kubuntu-8.10 .iso and it brought up the Write to Disk menu. Should I burn or go into my programs and do?	01:13
reid	however, #ubuntu-server is asleep, can anyone here help me get VNC to connect to my server (running fluxbox)?	01:13
mrNotYou	!outyet	01:13
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	01:13
jdu	PROject-Emerald, if you want you could use wodim: wodim -v dev=/dev/scd0 speed=0 kubuntu.iso	01:13
jdu	PROject-Emerald, oops speed ought to me more like 8	01:13
wrice_	Pelle: I don't know much about DNS, but I'm pretty sure ddclient comes with example startup scripts.	01:13
PROject-Emerald	Haha	01:13
reid	PROject-Emerald: just do it through the write to disk menu	01:14
PROject-Emerald	ok	01:14
PROject-Emerald	Write Disc To: CD-RW CRX216E or File Image?	01:14
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: burn as slow as you can	01:14
Pelle	wrice_: okay thx for your help!	01:14
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: did you md5 check the iso?	01:14
reid	the release for jaunty has too been determined	01:14
wrice_	Pelle: yw	01:14
reid	PROject-Emerald: burn to CD writer	01:14
PROject-Emerald	No, I didn't. why?	01:14
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: it checks what you have downloaded is correct	01:15
PROject-Emerald	How do I do that?	01:15
ActionParsnip	!md5 \| PROject-Emerald	01:15
ubottu	PROject-Emerald: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	01:15
PROject-Emerald	thanks	01:15
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: md5 checking is ESSENTIAL	01:15
psychic	terminal help...	01:15
ActionParsnip	psychic: sup	01:16
psychic	ah thank u	01:16
psychic	how do i save modifications to a file in terminal	01:16
psychic	does it save if i just close it	01:17
psychic	?	01:17
ActionParsnip	psychic: what editor have you used?	01:17
psychic	terminal	01:17
tsopp	That's not and editor. :P	01:17
ActionParsnip	psychic: terminal is not an editor	01:17
psychic	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156216/	01:17
psychic	i edited it in terminal	01:17
reid	psychic: nano, vim, vi, gedit?	01:17
ActionParsnip	psychic: vi, nano are termial basd editors	01:17
psychic	nano	01:17
jdu	psychic, C^X	01:17
ActionParsnip	psychic: ok then the app is nano, not terminal	01:17
psychic	GNU nano	01:17
ActionParsnip	psychic: ctrl + x	01:18
PROject-Emerald	Ok, it says it's the Kubuntu ISO and it's all correct	01:18
psychic	oo ok	01:18
PROject-Emerald	Do I just doubleclick the ISO and burn it at the lowest speed?	01:18
ActionParsnip	psychic: then press y to save changes and press enter	01:18
psychic	thats how that works	01:18
reid	PROject-Emerald: yeah it should be fine	01:18
jdu	PROject-Emerald, yes, as an image	01:18
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: you could rightclick it and select open with app	01:18
PROject-Emerald	jdu: So, my options for "Burn To:" are -CD-RW CRX216E or file image	01:19
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: just open the file with the application	01:19
rhsanborn	Does ubuntu come with an app to scan for available networks by default?	01:20
PROject-Emerald	I did, the Write to Disc application	01:20
rhsanborn	available wireless networks	01:20
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: no, like gnomebaker, k3b, whatever	01:20
PROject-Emerald	would Brasero work?	01:20
totto-drummond	Where can we get the final version of Ubuntu 9.04	01:20
depok_hitori_jan	When will jaunty be released exactly? What time in UTC	01:21
tsopp	rhsanborn, yes it comes with network manager.	01:21
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: sure, choose that	01:21
Flannel	totto-drummond, depok_hitori_jan: We don't know. Please join #ubuntu-release-party to wait for it. There's no "set time"	01:21
jdu	PROject-Emerald, odd, probably. I usually use wodim. The main thing is to burn it as an image at a a low speed	01:21
PROject-Emerald	Ok. Would 11x do or should I go as low as 1x?	01:21
tsopp	totto-drummond, it comes ou ton the 23rd, you can either get it from the website as an ISO or if you have an existing install use update-manager.	01:22
ActionParsnip	PROject-Emerald: slower the better	01:22
jdu	PROject-Emerald, probably 11x is fine though . 4x-8x is probably best	01:22
PROject-Emerald	Ok. Burning.	01:22
jdu	good luck!	01:22
PROject-Emerald	I did it @ 5	01:22
PROject-Emerald	How long should this take?	01:22
psychic	now last night i ran out of hard drive space so i deleted 9 gigs of duplicates videos and music so i have some extra space but my screen size shrunk down to where theres a black border around the screen about an inch and a half like a frame and all of my desktop icons and files disappeared and.... my xfce menu is all wacked out	01:23
jdu	a while...	01:23
maximo	Jack_Sparrow: got it thanks alot	01:23
psychic	can some one help me out?	01:23
sahak	hello	01:23
sahak	where can I download Ubuntu 9.04?	01:23
joan_0	hi ! I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?	01:23
joan_0	sahak, ubuntu.com, there are a banner who allows you to download	01:24
psychic	o and another thing b4 i lost my desktop icons the desktop switched from the oem xubuntu to the theme from ubuntu intrepid	01:24
psychic	?????	01:24
PROject-Emerald	wait, is Jaunty out? Or are they still dling RC?	01:24
joan_0	RC	01:24
jdu	PROject-Emerald, tomorrow	01:24
PROject-Emerald	Ok	01:24
psychic	it switched by it self that is	01:24
psychic	anyone want to try and tackle it	01:25
joan_0	Anyone knows what is initramfs prompt ?	01:25
sahak	joan_0: the banner leads to the release candidate. I want the final release.	01:25
psychic	my computer is pultergeisted...	01:25
biggerfisch	sahak: its not out yet	01:25
joan_0	sahak, you mut wait xD	01:25
thirdwheel_	hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through	01:25
sahak	i am very impatient	01:25
thirdwheel_	psychic, say what?	01:25
jdu	phychic, did you delete config files too?	01:25
psychic	did u read all that	01:25
psychic	?	01:25
jdu	psychic, well you said that you deleted duplicate files... normally that would be unrelated to the problems you described...	01:26
psychic	no i delted all that stuff after the problems occured	01:26
xerxes	Which ubuntu version is the most secure?	01:26
joan_0	I have a problem with Ubuntu Jaunty for netbook. When I start with USB the boot stops and show (initramfs) promt. What is this ?	01:26
racecar56	bacj	01:27
racecar56	back	01:27
psychic	no its stuff i downloaded it was duplicates of vids ad music from youtube	01:27
psychic	i thought having more than 3.3 mb of hard drive space would fix it lol	01:27
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jdu	joan_0, Your kernel wasn't loaded properly.	01:28
psychic	if some one could p.m. me i have to grab my laundry	01:28
joan_0	I tried with 2 USB, and I check the md5sum for the iso	01:28
simNIX	why not share answers also in room so other can maybe learn from it ?	01:28
digitaloktay	joan_0, join /j #ubuntu+1	01:28
jdu	psychic, try creating a new user account.	01:28
utferd	hi	01:28
utferd	is 9.10 released?	01:29
jdu	joan_0, is this from the iso?	01:29
jdu	utferd, tomorrow	01:29
utferd	jdo, time?	01:29
joan_0	jdu what is the diference between channels ?	01:29
utferd	now , its 03:29 am	01:29
utferd	:D	01:29
digitaloktay	but not 9.10 :D	01:29
jdu	utferd, not sure.	01:29
digitaloktay	9.04	01:29
thirdwheel_	10:29am here	01:30
utferd	thirdwheel_, australia?	01:30
digitaloktay	2:30 here	01:30
thirdwheel_	yep	01:30
loquitus_of_bor1	anybody notice that the remote desktop viewer in Ubuntu (and perhaps in general) does not refresh properly? as in, when I am viewing a remote desktop, what I am seeing is very stale... I can tell because the clock is WAY behind	01:30
jdu	joan_0, #ubuntu+1 is over jaunty	01:30
utferd	digitaloktay, turkey?	01:30
joan_0	oks, sorry :D	01:30
loquitus_of_bor1	what time, ZULU, is Jaunty officially out?	01:30
thirdwheel_	hey all, i've set up my sudoers file like so: http://codepad.org/p4ez6qvb - but the openvisor user still can't do any of the commands I've set - it still asks for a password and won't let it through	01:30
digitaloktay	utferd, germany ;) turkey 3.30	01:30
utferd	digitaloktay, ok i get it, bende ordayım zaten	01:31
utferd	:)	01:31
digitaloktay	utferd, hosgeldin ;)	01:31
pio1	Ioquitus_of_bor1: my remote desktop doesn't refresh at all. I have to terminate then reconnect my session for it to refresh.	01:31
utferd	digitaloktay, eyw, ubuntu-tr ye bekleriz	01:31
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: it is supposed to be synced so you can in fact interact even with the hose	01:31
loquitus_of_bor1	host	01:31
loquitus_of_bor1	but it is totally horribly behind	01:31
rhsanborn	It looks like network manager is starting by default. Perhaps this is an issue with the notification area, which is something I seem to remember. Is there any way to make sure it's present and activated/	01:32
rhsanborn	?	01:32
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: I know mate, I was just saying I'm running jaunty RC with all updates and mine does the same thing.	01:32
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: It's very annoying. I use Remote desktop all the time.	01:32
joan_0	jdu is not ISO, is .img . I make the USB with unetbootin	01:32
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: ok... I am on Jaunty too... same deal, although I am pretty sure it was doing this on Intrepid as well...	01:33
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: I don't really understand what it is doing. I can see the mouse moving on the host, but the clock is exactly where it was when I connected!	01:34
finaltune	hello	01:34
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: Yeah! that's exactly the same as mine. Obviously it's a bug. Maybe we should report it at launchpad?	01:34
finaltune	i can't read the ascii CAPTCHA in ubuntu QA...	01:34
finaltune	can you please help me?	01:34
racecar56	is it ok to use announced status messages here?	01:34
misho	hi guys	01:35
LjL	!away > racecar56 (racecar56, see the private message from ubottu) if you mean these, no	01:35
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: yah we could... is this a Jaunty bug or is that application itself hosed? I am not sure where to draw the line between complaining to Ubuntu vs not doing so.	01:35
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: it is weird. the mouse moves but does nothing of apparent intelligence.	01:35
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: No, It's not the application. The application works in Linux Mint, which is based on intrepid.	01:36
loquitus_of_bor1	pio1: ok... so it indeed is the Jaunty client, you are suggesting...?	01:36
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: Yes, I would think so.	01:37
jdu	joan_0, your problem is occurring before the kernel starts as ubuntu is trying to configuration, but fails.... There could be any number of reasons why	01:37
misho	has anyone upgraded to jaunty final release?	01:38
KoolKat33	i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?	01:38
finaltune	i really can't read the capture in Ubuntu QA	01:39
joan_0	jdo, I find in lp that is a bug of the RC, not my fault. Thanx a lot for the help. I must wait for final relesase :D Good night !	01:39
unitedpotsmokers	hey guys, jaunty will launch today rite?	01:39
^Phantom2^	'	01:39
LjL	!jaunty	01:39
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	01:39
jdu	joan_0, oh well, hope it will be fixed.	01:39
misho	well at my place it is april 23. :)))))	01:40
unitedpotsmokers	LjL:: if jaunty launch, then this channel can talk about jaunty rite?	01:40
pio1	misho: me too, where are you at?	01:40
LjL	yes. but it's not out NOW. so please discuss it in #ubuntu-release-party.	01:40
KoolKat33	i'm having an issue in 8.04 when i bootup my monitor goes into sleep mode when the gui loads, any ideas?	01:40
zvacet	unitedpotsmokers: when it is out yes	01:41
misho	piol: serbia uzice	01:41
misho	sorry pio1	01:41
misho	pio1 : where are u?	01:42
pio1	mish: Australia.	01:42
jdu	KoolKat33, what if you go to a virtual terminal?	01:42
misho	pio1: ohhh surfing	01:42
simNIX	a resolution your monitor cant do ?	01:42
Blaze_Boy	Problem: i installed ubuntu hardy on toshiba satellite A100 but modem is dead ? what i have to do to get it work ?	01:42
luminoso	on fiile galaries	01:42
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luminoso	how do i move a file? i selec a file. i click on move, then what?	01:43
PerryArmstrong	can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791	01:43
KoolKat33	i can ctrl+alt+f2 to get to prompt, and the monitor comes back fine	01:43
simNIX	KoolKat33, a resolution your monitor cant do ?	01:43
luminoso	sorry wrong channel	01:43
Blaze_Boy	Help	01:44
pio1	blaze_boy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto?action=show&redirect=SettingUpModems	01:44
zvacet	luminoso : with mv command look at man mv	01:44
KoolKat33	how can i change the res from prompt?	01:44
jdu	luminoso, drag an drop	01:44
luminoso	wrong channel. this question was to #tikiwiki	01:45
luminoso	sorry	01:45
H3XiL3D	luminoso eheeh :)	01:45
PerryArmstrong	can anyone help in this discussion http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791	01:45
simNIX	KoolKat33, I think by switch off gdm and then edit xorg.conf (after backing up current) ... and then startx to test	01:45
KoolKat33	can i pm you please?	01:46
simNIX	rather have conversation here - that ways others can help and learn also ...	01:46
jdu	PerryArmstrong, you can use apt-proxy on the server to share updates. The cd could potentially be booted from the network and installed.	01:46
KoolKat33	when i edit xorg.conf i can't find the area for screen properties	01:47
PerryArmstrong	jdu; so through this apt-proxy...i can boot the cd from the network	01:48
PerryArmstrong	??	01:48
simNIX	KoolKat33, try on root console; /etc/init.d/gdm stop (x off) -> then maybe this helps; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973&highlight=refresh+rate+howto after modifiying try startx to load x and see if any errors	01:48
digitalpsyko	anyone have the dell e6400 with the 9cell and 12 cell battery plate? i was wondering how i can get a more accurate battery reading? ubuntu ftw.	01:48
jdu	PerryArmstrong, no apt-proxy would only handle updates through the server.	01:48
KoolKat33	thank you..i'll let ya know what happens	01:48
jdu	PerryArmstrong, you want to use pxe booting for the install without cds, or preseeding	01:49
dft_	Is there a nautilus addon that will mount ISO's as loopback devices?	01:49
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simNIX	k	01:49
maodun	i set up a functioning ssh server on an ubuntu box a while back and then left it alone. i recently tried to log in, and my connection continually timed out. i had someone hook up a mouse and keyboard to the server and, voila, it worked. i'm guessing the machine went into hibernation or some such since no one had touched it for a while and thus the ssh server went down. is that possible? and if so, how can i disable such sleep / hibernat	01:49
PerryArmstrong	jdu; you mean the one given here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer i didnt understand what you said	01:49
simNIX	KoolKat33, specific pay atention to the bit; "Find your monitors manual (manufacturers website and Google are useful).	01:50
simNIX	Look for hozizontal sync and vertical refresh rates, also if bandwidth or maximum dot clock / pixel clock is mentioned, write it down."	01:50
jdu	PerryArmstrong, that should work, I think	01:50
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jdu	PerryArmstrong, basically, once it set up on the server, the clients need to be set to boot off the network.	01:51
zvacet	good night and see you soon	01:51
PerryArmstrong	jdu; okk.. all the clients are connected by LAN	01:52
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, apt-proxy sometimes failed here so I went for a local mirror with apt-mirror	01:52
jdu	PerryArmstrong, Another way is to use the cd in all the clients but to specify a .cfg file over the network.	01:52
simNIX	with apt-mirror you can also setup to grab updates	01:53
PerryArmstrong	jdu; this is getting a bit complicated	01:53
Sertse	what's the default wallpaper for jaunty? I expected more of a fuss in the forums, but I'm not seeing anything	01:53
Sertse	I know theme is still human	01:54
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so will 160GB HDD and 1GB ram suffice for it?	01:54
optimo_praim	hello, how can I include the usernames in the logon window when ubuntu boots up?	01:54
jdu	PerryArmstrong, yes. The file would supply the answers to all the questions when installing so all you would have to would be to insert the cd and tell it where the file is.	01:54
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I only mirror i386 and thats around 22Gb, the 1Gb ram is overkill but nice to have - I serve it out with vsftpd to my clients	01:55
StanLangers	Hey guys whats the situation with wubi with the new realese?	01:55
Pelle11	is Ubuntu using redhat style rc files and demon mode? and what does that mean?	01:55
jdu	PerryArmstrong, I haven't actually done exactly that before, but I have heard it works.	01:55
kitche	!upstart \| Pelle11	01:55
* jdu has to go		01:55
ubottu	Pelle11: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/	01:55
simNIX	preseed works realy nice - that way I can fully automated install	01:56
StanLangers	Will wubi be available with the new Jaunty release?	01:56
genii	Gah, wubi	01:56
Pelle11	thx kitche!	01:56
evilaim	hey all	01:56
simNIX	StanLangers, isnt it already out with 8.10 ?	01:56
StanLangers	Yes its available for 8.10	01:56
evilaim	There has to be an easier way to change the splash screen.	01:56
casslab	hi	01:57
StanLangers	What im wondering is will it be able to install the new 9.04 Jaunty?	01:57
optimo_praim	esta de weba	01:57
Pici	!jaunty	01:57
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	01:57
tzanger	good evening; can anyone assist me in bringing up my wifi from the command line (it works fine if I boot to gui, but I'm having some trouble with the GUI that I'd like to debug through ssh)	01:57
casslab	like, can ubuntu help me correct my lack of penile erections? (in english: halp my peen not up; can lunix halp ?!)	01:57
tzanger	I'm not sure how to tell ubuntu to bring up eth1 just lke networkmanager does in the gui	01:57
evilaim	Does anyone know an easier way to change my splash screen?	01:57
StanLangers	?	01:57
PerryArmstrong	jdu; somebody also suggested apt-cacher	01:57
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evilaim	other then doing some weird linking and stuff?	01:58
evantandersen	casslab it can surf to porn sites...	01:58
casslab	evaluser: yes, PEE ON IT.	01:58
kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?	01:58
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PerryArmstrong	simNIX; what do you mean by overkill	01:58
detrate	s/casslab/troll/	01:58
LjL	casslab: please, take this channel seriously. thank you.	01:58
kitche	!usplash \| evilaim have you tried this?	01:58
ubottu	evilaim have you tried this?: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork	01:58
hadis	serious.	01:59
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, with apt-cacher I had that clients borked on some files that were corupted while apt-cacher grabbed it - I then had to manualy remove it from pool and then it would be regrabbed	01:59
casslab	LjL: YA~1~```11 I'm taking this channel very SRSLY!1	01:59
LjL	!ops \| casslab	01:59
ubottu	casslab: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	01:59
StanLangers	So will wubi be able to install Jaunty? 9.04?	01:59
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so aptproxy is better??	02:00
casslab	LjL: m	02:00
casslab	pm	02:00
* Sergiu_ г		02:00
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, apt-mirror was best fit here	02:00
evilaim	wow, that's a lot of steps just for a splash screen	02:00
GillaGal	I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?	02:01
simNIX	apt-proxy gave me simular coruption probs at times	02:01
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; whats really the difference between apt-mirror, apt-proxy and apt-cacher	02:01
kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?	02:01
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jonathan3	what is the difference between linux and a computer ?	02:02
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StanLangers	Just wondering if wubi will be available to install Jaunty 9.04?	02:02
casslab	what exactly is a "troll"? I have LjL in my PM; begging me to stop	02:02
casslab	wtf	02:02
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simNIX	apt-proxy and apt-cacher are mostly the same; if a cliet requests a file they grab it for thhat cleint and store it for use for next client wanting the same - apt-mirror is a way to download have a full mirror (with posiblity only i386 or any arch)	02:02
casslab	LjL: STOP private msging me, PLEASE!	02:02
kdask	lol	02:03
jonathan3	lol	02:03
jonathan3	hi everybody	02:03
Galadrielhim	I m from Mars. How can I store a radio station in rytmbox... The sistem is asking me for ttx/html decoder. Can you help me now?I am easy	02:03
Rayford	Hey. Anyone use ESRI BusinessMAP 5?	02:03
jonathan3	me	02:03
mitchell	what timw is jaunty gonna be available???	02:04
Rayford	Jonathan3: you do?	02:04
Rayford	Do you own a copy of it?	02:04
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, simpler put; proxy programs grab only that requsted (and in my experience sometimes wrongly) and apt-mirror just downloads everithing	02:04
jonathan3	sure	02:04
jonathan3	need it?	02:04
Rayford	ya	02:04
pio1	loquitus_of_bor1: are you still here?	02:04
zakk	could someone take a look at this please	02:04
zakk	http://pastebin.com/m44f38d45	02:04
mitchell	does anyone know?	02:04
kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?	02:05
mitchell	what time jaunty is available?	02:05
tgr	hi i was wondering if the upgrade that comes out tomorrow will be faster or lighter than 8.04 i am considering upgrading	02:05
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so i think apt-mirror works better	02:05
simNIX	I agree	02:05
Galadrielhim	sakrabidelbadelbudel	02:05
josh977	Jaunty release tomorrow. Anyone throwing any wild parties?	02:05
pio1	tgr: how much RAM do you have.	02:05
Galadrielhim	Answer me please	02:05
jonathan3	3go	02:06
kdask	what timezone josh977	02:06
josh977	Central Standard	02:06
simNIX	also in light you wanting to mirror security updates; what if you update once a day and one hour after that a big hole is plugged ... I tend to grab updates just from the source	02:06
kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system?	02:06
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i can't trust the community docs for this....they are a bit incomplete always....is there any material that has been written out of true experience	02:06
dft_	zakk: what command did you execute?	02:07
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; for this apt-mirror	02:07
zakk	dft_: I was just upgrading my installed packages	02:07
dft_	kdask: do you have a 64bit install already?	02:07
zakk	dft_: and then if I install anything new now I get that message	02:07
kdask	dft_ yes	02:07
dft_	zakk: looks liek you're missing some files	02:07
zakk	dft_: yup	02:07
dft_	kdask: !schroot	02:07
dft_	kdask: !dchroot	02:08
dft_	!dchroot	02:08
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dchroot	02:08
dft_	!schroot	02:08
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about schroot	02:08
dft_	anyways	02:08
kdask	!fruit	02:08
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fruit	02:08
Pici	!msgthebot	02:08
zakk	!chroot	02:08
ubottu	Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".	02:08
ubottu	chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)	02:08
dft_	kdask: lookup schroot	02:08
ccidral	does anyone know what time will ubuntu 9.04 be released?	02:08
ccidral	i'm anxious :)	02:08
kdask	thanks zakk	02:09
DanC	I've got an msi wind and I want to run the ubuntu remix on it; any suggestions about how to get there?	02:09
zakk	sure	02:09
Pici	!outyet \| ccidral	02:09
ubottu	ccidral: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	02:09
thahauss_	Hi everyone, I'm new to ubuntu (running 9.04) an am trying to get 'appearance preferences > themes' to have a transparent effect to match my emerald theme, can someone please tell me how 2 do this?	02:09
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Pelle11	how do I "enable automatic startup when booting"	02:09
ccidral	Pici thanks	02:09
wgrant_	thahauss_: You need #ubuntu+1.	02:09
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I dont get -> this is all I have to do to get it working; http://pastebin.com/d93480ed	02:09
dft_	zakk: can you apt-get that particular kernel image first?	02:09
wgrant_	thahauss_: Ubuntu 9.04 is not yet released.	02:09
zakk	dft_: ok I'll try that	02:09
gartral2	how do i daemonize a running proccess?	02:10
zakk	gartral2: ctrl+z then bg	02:10
zakk	gartral2: but I think you still need the terminal open	02:10
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, Ill consider writing a litle article on it soon	02:10
zakk	gartral2: so your best bet is to run everything under screen	02:10
FrozenFire	I've been getting pulsing latency issues under Ubuntu since I started using it about 3 years ago. Does this sound like the ext3 fsync issue? I especially notice it when watching a Flash video, such as on Youtube.	02:10
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; ohh so you have a blog??	02:10
zakk	dft_: http://pastebin.com/m209e5088	02:11
philsf	how can I pin ppa.launchpad.net (instead of the repository, i.e., hardy, intrpid, jaunty...)	02:11
philsf	?	02:11
gartral2	meh, i just needed it one-off, i opened pidgin through terminal cause it crashed the last time i tryed opening it, oh well, musta been a one-timer	02:11
* DanC re-discovers wubi...		02:11
KujiUn	Is there any way to remore desktop view someone using the same wireless network as me?	02:11
simNIX	I got a domain week ago orso - not found time yet to put nifo up - working on it ..	02:12
genii	!pin	02:12
ubottu	pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto	02:12
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kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?	02:12
dft_	zakk: nm, just saw a few lines down	02:12
philsf	genii, that doesn't answer my question, I read it	02:13
Juls4	Hi guys, I've got a problem. I updated my firefox icon (with a blue icon to match my theme) in /usr/lib/firefox_3.0.8/icon with a .png and two .xpm. However now all I get is a default no icon page looking thing. Any suggestions???	02:13
coskund	hi	02:13
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Crash1hd	does ubuntu support dual moniters?	02:14
simNIX	x does; yes	02:14
kdask	could anyone tell how to force i386 architecture on a 64 bit system? isnt there a faster command someone could tell me?	02:14
dft_	kdask: no	02:14
^Blizzerand^	!welcome	02:14
ubottu	Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.	02:14
philsf	kdask, what exactly do you want to do?	02:15
dft_	you need to setup a 32bit jail to run those apps	02:15
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i didnt get what you said..anyways this is my blog.. http://ossarchives.blogspot.com	02:15
kdask	i want to install adobe flash	02:15
kdask	philsf:	02:15
KoolKat33	simnix:: i have returned	02:15
KoolKat33	all is well	02:15
simNIX	KoolKat33, cool	02:15
dft_	kdask: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575	02:15
philsf	kdask, in amd64?	02:15
Crash1hd	simNIX: I have downloaded and burnt and running the cd right now how would I go about setting up dual windows?	02:15
kdask	yes philsf	02:15
webbles	need to upgrade from gutsy, can't apt-get update manager core, any ideas?	02:15
philsf	kdask, what ubuntu release?	02:15
kdask	8.10	02:15
GillaGal	I have an Intel Q8200 Quad core processor. If I install Ubuntu 8.10 32 bit will I still be able to use all 4 cores?	02:16
tgr	i have 2 gb ram	02:16
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I tried to say; no I dont have a blog yet, but I did register a domain where I am goin to put info up on soon	02:16
webbles	gilla yes	02:16
wgrant_	dft_: That's four years old...	02:16
dft_	zakk: does that kernel image even exist under /boot?	02:16
philsf	webbles, there is an archive for EOL releases, google for that	02:16
genii	philsf: See sections 3.8 through 3.10 of http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html	02:16
webbles	thanks	02:16
dft_	wgrant_: first howto I googled	02:16
GillaGal	webbles well then what is the advantage of 64 bit?	02:16
KoolKat33	i will say it was kind of a pain, i had to unload the driver, reinstall, unload gnome, THEN edit config, loaded up Gnome and it works!	02:16
KoolKat33	thank you for the link	02:16
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; you are welcome to contribute in my blog depending on your interest	02:16
kdask	philsf: 8,10	02:17
simNIX	gladely shared KoolKat33 it some time back also realy helped me	02:17
webbles	64 bit is needed to take advantage of memory greater than 4 gigs	02:17
webbles	and also the ability to use 64 bit registers	02:17
GillaGal	webbles Ok so for a desktop/media box it will be ok at 32bit?	02:17
tgr	x	02:18
kdask	webbles: whats 64 bit registers?	02:18
webbles	you will be fine Gilla	02:18
dft_	kdask: here's an uptodate howto	02:18
dft_	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=733595	02:18
philsf	kdask, there's an amd64 version of adobe flash	02:18
genii	philsf: pinning by origin is likely what you want to do	02:18
philsf	!partner \| kdask	02:18
ubottu	kdask: The Ubuntu partnership program is designed to encourage, recognise and endorse Ubuntu expertise and commercial initiatives. It is structured to foster a healthy ecosystem surrounding Ubuntu, to highlight those companies with certified expertise in Ubuntu and a deeper relationship to Canonical. See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners for more information.	02:18
kdask	wait i dont have 4 GB of ram	02:18
wgrant_	dft_: That's still out of date.	02:18
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, it may take ma a while but once done I will be behind simnix.info	02:18
philsf	genii, thanks, but I think that also doesn't help, or I misunderstood... I don't want to pin the package version, since this way I might 1) loose ability to upgrade 2) must do it per package, aiui	02:19
simNIX	Ill have a look at yours	02:19
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; okk	02:19
kdask	whats 64 bit registers?	02:19
dft_	wgrant_: well then what is the bleading edge way?	02:19
philsf	genii, also, AIUI, the origin is the release, no?	02:19
wgrant_	kdask: If you don't already know, you don't need to.	02:19
meoblast001	by any chance is it ok to get autotools support in here? or is that offtopic?	02:19
* dft_ can't spell tonight		02:19
genii	philsf: origin is the repo	02:19
wgrant_	dft_: Flash doesn't need an i386 chroot. Hasn't for a couple of years.	02:19
wolter	is there anyway I can upgrade to the ubuntu release candidate?	02:19
simNIX	only 10 euro for 1 year a domain so I ditch dyndns - )	02:19
kdask	so i dont need 64 bit?	02:19
wgrant_	dft_: Firefox will prompt to install it, even on amd64.	02:19
JDShewey	So... I want to set up a dual head setup. I want KDE on one monitor, and a virtualbox VM on the other, but I want to use compiz and keep the ability to use the edge flip. I can't to stack the monitors, so I would like to have some sort of key combination to switch which monitor the mouse/keyboard is bound to. Is this possible?	02:19
dft_	wgrant_: I know, I didn't realize that was his issue, nm then	02:19
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; just a doubt; can my desktop system make updations from the server at college with this apt-mirror	02:20
Pelle112	How do I get ddclient to start at every boot?	02:20
dft_	wgrant_: I needed it for the nessus gui	02:20
wolter	Pelle112, add it to System > Preferences > Sessions	02:20
philsf	genii, yes, I confused it with a(archive). what's the origin for ppas?	02:20
Pelle112	thx wolter	02:20
genii	philsf: The origin is the repository URL	02:20
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kdask	wgrant_: i ask because i want to know if i need 64 bit or not	02:21
andr3s	one question: if i install xfce desktop extension with sudo in my ubuntu os, i changed the os to xubuntu?	02:21
philsf	genii, thanks, I think this is what I missed	02:21
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, your home desktop has to connect over the internet to college ftp server serving out what apt-mirror sownloaded or are you on campus ?	02:21
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, or http server	02:21
genii	philsf: np	02:21
Pelle112	wolter, btw is that the same as a deamon?	02:22
powtrix	hi. can I install java on ubuntu 8.10 64-bits ?	02:22
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i didnt set the server up still at campus... i need to collect all information and manuals and then start the work	02:22
h8red	heya	02:22
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, clear; but I meen once setup ...	02:22
andrew_	connect	02:22
kdask	whats 64 bit registers anyone?	02:22
philsf	kdask, google	02:23
JDShewey	64 bit registers are the width of variables in a 64 bit processor	02:23
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I would keep the mirror localy since if its Intrnet facing biger change of it getting cacked ..	02:23
mutilator	how do ya change file association defualts	02:23
JDShewey	32 bit processors have 32 bit registers	02:23
East_Coast_Girl	good evening folks :)	02:23
simNIX	...and all clients install from it ...	02:24
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i didnt understand what you said atall	02:24
powtrix	i tried to link libnpjp2 but the java does not work on firefox3.	02:24
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i didnt understand what you said *at all	02:24
wgrant_	mutilator: To change the application with which a file type opens, you can right-click on such a file and find the last tab.	02:24
kdask	oh so if i have a processor that SUPPORTS 64 bit do i need to have a 64 bit OS ?	02:24
GillaGal	kdask Nope.	02:24
kdask	GillaGal: does it help?	02:24
JDShewey	A 64 bit processor can run a 32 bit OS, but you are using part of your overall capabilty.	02:24
JDShewey	You will get better performance out of a 64 bit OS.	02:25
tgr	so was curious is 9.04 more heavy than 8.04? on resources	02:25
francesco_	italian???	02:25
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; can you make it clear	02:25
JDShewey	But sometimes you have compatability issues.	02:25
eseven73	!it \| francesco_	02:25
ubottu	francesco_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	02:25
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, you asked can my dektop update from campus; I asked is your home on campus or do you from home needto go over the Internet to connect ot it ..	02:25
philsf	JDShewey, arguably better performance...	02:25
kdask	JDShewey: even if i have less than 4 GB ram?	02:25
mutilator	ah i see	02:25
mutilator	i dont know why i didnt try to do that before	02:25
mutilator	:P	02:25
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; need to connect through the internet	02:25
JDShewey	kdask: yes, even if	02:25
GillaGal	JDShewey performance on what?	02:26
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, is posible; but only if you make it so the Internet can connect to it - then I sugested; if you make it so you can connect over the Internet to it others can also ...	02:26
kdask	where's the 64 bit linux version of flash player anyone? ive searched like crazy	02:27
simNIX	... best use at home a normal mirror or have also one apt-mirror download at home ...	02:27
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; the server will have internet connection and i'll put it on 24 hrs. if necessary...	02:27
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; should the server be running all the time then??	02:28
CFNinja	Is there no way for me to log in the terminal so that I have root without having to type sudo before every single command?	02:28
Pelle112	how do I check witch deamons are running?	02:28
wgrant_	kdask: Just go to a page that uses Flash, and Firefox will ask you if you want to install it.	02:28
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philsf	kdask, partner repository	02:28
kdask	philsf: what is that?	02:28
philsf	!partner \| kdask	02:28
ubottu	kdask: The Ubuntu partnership program is designed to encourage, recognise and endorse Ubuntu expertise and commercial initiatives. It is structured to foster a healthy ecosystem surrounding Ubuntu, to highlight those companies with certified expertise in Ubuntu and a deeper relationship to Canonical. See http://www.ubuntu.com/partners for more information.	02:28
wgrant_	!rootshell \| CFNinja	02:28
ubottu	CFNinja: Using !sudo with single commands is preferable in most circumstances. However, if you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i » (other variants of this commands are redundant and/or potentially dangerous)	02:28
wgrant_	philsf: That's not the right factoid.	02:29
kdask	thanks	02:29
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, Internet connection to grab new files is no problem; the risk comes if you make it so someone on the Internet can connect to it - that would open up a can of worms, that you dont have if at home you use another server to update / install from	02:29
CFNinja	thx	02:29
philsf	wgrant_, you're right	02:29
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philsf	kdask, wait a sec	02:29
^Phantom2^	Hey guys, i'm going to rant a little bit here (it's relevant to the chat)	02:29
zetheroo	I thought Ubuntu 9.04 would be released by now ..	02:30
space_cadet	zetheroo, tomarrow	02:30
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, if you have a local dns at home you could point your desktop to a name that resolves to ubuntu mirror online, and at work have that name resolve to ip box with apt-mirror	02:30
LjL	^Phantom2^: it's most likely not, use #ubuntu-offtopic for any non-support topic (or for certain specific topics, you might be directed to other channels)	02:30
zetheroo	space_cadet: whose tomorrow?	02:30
kdask	yes philsf?	02:30
space_cadet	zetheroo, jaunty	02:30
jtholmes	zetheroo, i doubt that the RC will change between now and tomorrows official release announcement	02:30
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i just wanted all the students of the campus have the ability to update from their homes through the internet..	02:31
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, why ?	02:31
space_cadet	update what?	02:31
simNIX	(sine its slower then a mirror close to them)	02:31
simNIX	but its posible if a requiremnet	02:31
simNIX	vsftpd is quite save	02:31
^Phantom2^	omg ubuntu is so awesome!!! i can't believe how easy it is to use!! It is so much nicer than window$, and HOLY MACRO it is so good with laptop batteries! Thank you so much for your support guys!!!	02:32
jelly-bean	what is the best app for comparing files in linux? (e.g. gui; developer tool; unified diff; with basic functions to resolve conflicts)	02:32
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; we have many ubuntu users locally and they complain of taking time for updating packages from the other severs which are not available locally	02:32
philsf	kdask, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding Canonical Partner Repositories	02:32
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; but what i am worried now is network traffic and you also mentioned there will be some problem if anyone else is updating..whats the problem..."you mentioned can of worms"	02:33
Frijolie	anyone familiar with claws-mail? I cannot send IMAP emails with claws + GMail	02:33
^Phantom2^	oh, and my other nick doesn't need to be here anymore, because it's just idling	02:33
zetheroo	jtholmes: do you know what version of alsa will be in the final?	02:34
Pelle112	can I check if ddclient is running?	02:34
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jtholmes	zetheroo, no I dont	02:34
simNIX	PerryArmstrong - then apt-mirror dowlnoad of all files 2x a day maybe would be perfect on campus - just share out what it downloads over http or ftp and point every client to use this ftp/http	02:34
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; are there any manuals upon this...??	02:35
wrice_	Pelle112: 'ps aux \| grep ddclient'	02:35
LjL	jelly-bean, i've used kompare sometimes, i didn't mind it, but i have no idea whether it has the features you mentioned honestly.	02:35
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, you still got pastebin I gave you with how to config it ?	02:35
simNIX	thats all you need	02:35
simNIX	+ setup a vsftpd of http server	02:36
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; yes i do have	02:36
Frijolie	it's complaining that a folder is missing "sent"	02:36
Frijolie	although it's there	02:36
simNIX	loose the lines I have for Debian	02:36
simNIX	install apt-mirror	02:36
jelly-bean	LjL: compare is good. thnx :)	02:36
lighttitan	My external Harddrive won't let me put anything on it. I have no permissions on it. How do I set permissions for having write permissions on my harddrive? There permissions tab was not available.	02:36
simNIX	modify in config directory you want it tot download	02:37
simNIX	and do apt-mirror	02:37
kdask	how do i open a .so file?	02:37
Pelle112	thx wrice_ :)	02:37
simNIX	it wil dowlnoad about 22Gb	02:37
zakk	kdask: .so files are like dlls	02:37
zakk	kdask: you dlopen them in code	02:37
^Phantom^	Now, I want to do more with linux than just chat. My question now is: what is the recommended bittorrent client for ubuntu? I'm looking to use one that is similar to BitTorrent on windoze, but I prefer one that is simple to use, but not so simple a 2-year old can use it. Any suggestions?	02:37
kdask	zakk thats what i got when i searched for the flash plugin	02:37
Frijolie	^Phantom^, I use deluge-torrent	02:37
kdask	64 bit linux	02:38
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Frijolie	^Phantom^, or just "deluge"	02:38
zakk	^Phantom^: http://www.transmissionbt.com/	02:38
^Phantom^	Frijolie: thank you	02:38
simNIX	^Phantom^, the one that fits :o)	02:38
^Phantom^	i'll look into it :D	02:38
simNIX	Tribler is maybe worth a look	02:38
Kou	anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu?	02:38
simNIX	its founded by eu	02:38
simNIX	funded	02:38
lighttitan	^Phantom^, I use Transmission Bittorrent Client	02:38
^Phantom^	I plan on -	02:39
^Phantom^	oh?	02:39
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; Tribler??	02:39
simNIX	was for ^Phantom^ PerryArmstrong	02:39
PerryArmstrong	okk	02:39
simNIX	a torrent cleint	02:39
lighttitan	Haven't tried the one Frijolie mentioned, you can look into them both and decide which you like better.	02:39
Kou	anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@	02:39
Frijolie	nobody knows about GMail and claws-mail?	02:39
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the clients??	02:40
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i have to install apt-mirror only on the server??	02:40
Frijolie	deluge is a great light-weight torrent client	02:40
simNIX	no install needed on lcients	02:40
simNIX	no install needed on lcients	02:40
Frijolie	and they're always updating it	02:40
lighttitan	I think I will try it out Frijolie	02:40
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; okk...	02:40
simNIX	only on server that wil serve up the files to the clients	02:40
philsf	genii, it appears the ppa version of a package doesn't have an Origin field to compare with, according to apt-cache show	02:40
philsf	genii, the package in question is http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/156257/	02:41
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^Phantom^	i have only booted back into windows once since installing ubuntu 8.10, and that was just to make sure it still booted, lol (if that means anything)	02:41
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so no need of apt-mirror on server its only for clients??	02:41
MaT-dg	Frijolie: what about GMail and claws-mail?	02:42
thewrath	does anyone know where i can just get the wubi.exe	02:42
thewrath	for jaunty	02:42
thewrath	bc the RC for jaunty does not have it	02:42
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, on campus make it for instance so the ubuntu.campus.com (replace domain) point to ip box runnig vsftpd (shares out what apt-mirror on same box grabs) in /etc/apt/sources.list	02:42
^Phantom^	oh oh, i should have asked this in the first place: does utorrent make an ubuntu compatible version?	02:42
lighttitan	^Phantom^ Welcome to Linux, it is a great OS. I have never been unable to get help on an issue if I come here. So just drop in here and the Pros(not me) will help you out!	02:43
genii	philsf: You use some lines like: Package: * and: Pin: origin www.debian-multimedia.org	02:43
^Phantom^	lighttitan: it's not great... it's AWESOME!!!	02:43
genii	philsf: But the repo name of ppa	02:43
simNIX	PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set ubuntu.campus.com	02:43
simNIX	PerryArmstrong ... in /etc/apt/sources.list of clients you then set tp://ubuntu.campus.com	02:43
Kou	anyone know how to fix missing aplication bars in Xubuntu, someone decided to remove mine :@	02:43
simNIX	*ftp://ubuntu.campus.com	02:43
lighttitan	^Phantom^ Yes it is!	02:43
thahauss	Hi all, I'm new to linux and trying to make my windows transparent, the areas affected when you change 'appearance preferences > themes'. any help greatly appreciated	02:43
Frijolie	MaT-dg: I cannot send email via claws-mail (recently) it's complaining that it cannot be queued	02:45
^Phantom^	um	02:45
lighttitan	How do I change the permissions on my HDD? I can't put anything on it.	02:46
^Phantom^	My media player window just went dim and grey, and I can't do anything in it...no message came up either. What can I do to get it back?	02:46
Kou	nvm, fixed	02:46
philsf	genii, it worked, thanks. But I think the documentation is somewhat missing in this detail	02:46
Ghostmedic	Odd question... I am the only user, but now guarddog won't work because I am not the supervisor... how do I become the supervisor on my own machine?	02:46
arkanabar	lighttitan, you need to google chmod	02:46
genii	philsf: Yes, sadly true	02:46
doleyb	thahauss: maybe you should search about compiz	02:47
lighttitan	arkanabar thanks	02:47
^Phantom^	Oops, I forcequitted it...	02:47
Burntresistor	i just dual booted my other hard drive and linux programs wont install , i used the installation process to resize the partition and dint size it in advance could it be that	02:47
* Ciros mutters at missing runtime		02:47
doleyb	Ghostmedic: sudo	02:48
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; you have given me lots of info thanks...now i have to check on various things like setting up ftp..etc...	02:48
Ghostmedic	Dolevb: Sudo?	02:48
Jak_o_Shadows	i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub	02:48
RedMercury	Hi, what time on the 23rd will jaunty be released?	02:48
Jak_o_Shadows	i installed everything to an external usb hdd	02:48
=== Splappy_ is now known as Splappy
perturbed	Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help .	02:50
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, gladely helped - vsftpd is an option or maybe lightttpd since ftp is a bit harder to let through risticted firewall - this is only an consideration if clients also need to be able to use same mirror at home over the Internet	02:50
perturbed	Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....................	02:50
Ghostmedic	what does Sudo mean? I'm new to linux.	02:51
Jak_o_Shadows	sudo is run as superuser, or root	02:51
nate[oz]	hey guys, what's the best subversion client out there for ubuntu?	02:51
perturbed	sudo gives your current user administrative powers	02:51
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: sudo gives the command domain over you entire file system, whereas usually, if you run a command, it's restricted to your home folder	02:51
kitche	!best \| nate[oz]	02:51
ubottu	nate[oz]: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.	02:51
kitche	nate[oz]: umm subversion of course	02:51
perturbed	Create a USB startup disk is absent in my ubuntu 8.10 ..how do i get it , please help ....	02:51
etzerd	Hello all	02:51
nate[oz]	:/	02:51
etzerd	tomorrow will be the big day.	02:52
Ghostmedic	How? The program just informs me that I can't do much when I start it up because I'm not the supervisor.. unlike other programs it does not ask for a password or anything.	02:52
etzerd	any news about the 9.04?	02:52
thebackwash	perturbed: please ask a little less frequently. if anyone knows they WILL answer.	02:52
perturbed	sorryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy	02:52
perturbed	hehe	02:52
thebackwash	perturbed: no problem :)	02:52
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server	02:52
perturbed	but its an emergency :(	02:52
SeViLLa	etzerd: i dont know what does the website say	02:52
hsinam	etzerd: hasnt come yet. today is the announced date though. keep checking releases.ubuntu.com	02:53
etzerd	I believe the said tomorrow they will release it to the public	02:53
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: not every user can use sudo. it is intentionally disabled for certain users. i'm not sure of the easiest way to enable sudo on your current account.	02:53
ohohh9	jo	02:54
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: this is intended to protect your computer from unwanted hacking attempts.	02:54
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: it is possible to add your account to the list of users who can sudo, but the only way I know of is to edit a certain text file	02:54
Ghostmedic	Okay... I'll do a websearch for how to enable sudu	02:54
RedMercury	anyone? :\|	02:55
Ghostmedic	Thank you all for your help.	02:55
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: if you have to run a command as root temporarily, you may type 'su'	02:55
ampzqlox	running 9.04 uninstalled vinagre and vino installed tightvncserver - what can I put into rc.local? I tried su -c tightvncserver. I get a just an blank grid and an X cursor on my screen when I remote into it over the net	02:55
=== eugen is now known as Guest64560
wgrant_	thebackwash, Ghostmedic: You want 'sudo', not 'su'.	02:55
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; there??	02:55
Guest64560	hey i'm trying to make a video showing many programs opened up...is there a way to batch execute every program I have?	02:55
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: however, due to the power of the root account, it is recommended to use this very sparingly	02:55
^Phantom^	Okay, I can't seem to find this at all. I've looked through all of the settings on X-Chat. How can I change the color used for highlighting nicks that mention my name in the chat? The yellow color is too bright for me.	02:55
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: you may have to log in as root via su in order to add your current user to the /etc/sudoers file	02:56
thebackwash	Ghostmedic: after that it should be sudo all the way	02:56
=== Ghostmedic is now known as ghostmedic
hsinam	Ghostmedic: system > administration > user and groups. select user properties, check administer the sytem option	02:57
thebackwash	hsinam: thank you!	02:57
thebackwash	hsinam: i couldn't remember how to do that through the gui	02:57
zloog	I AM HAM	02:57
Ububegin	isnt ubuntu 9, supposed to release today.	02:57
Jak_o_Shadows	i got a big problem with booting. grub just doesn't work, whatever distro i use. When i just installed a deriative of ubuntu (opengeu 8.10), my computer wouldn't boot at all. didn't even get to grub. i'm installing it all onto an external usb hdd	02:57
thebackwash	Guest64612: Do you want a couple of seconds in between each launch to show them off, or do you want to launch them all at once?	02:58
hsinam	thebackwash: i didnt know either, but ubuntu pocket guide pdf has given many gui methods for simple things	02:58
n8tuser	Jak_o_Shadows -> perhaps your mobo does not support boooting off of usb	02:58
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, am now ...	02:58
MaT-dg	Ububegin: yes, today is still yesterday in other timezones and today is 24hours long ;)	02:58
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; so setting up this on vsftpd or lightttpd doesn't depend on the speed of internet on the server	02:58
kitche	Ububegin: umm it's not even the 23rd yet for when Ubuntu is suppose to be released	02:58
=== efjc is now known as efjc_
thedust	hello, i am attempting to dual boot ubuntu with vista currently installed, i was wondering how i could change my bios settings so that the computer boots from the cd	02:59
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, for clients on campus only the speed to the vsftpd oor lighttpd counts	02:59
Jak_o_Shadows	did u get that message?	02:59
=== efjc_ is now known as efjc__
thedust	does anyone here know how to change the bios settings?	02:59
=== efjc__ is now known as efjc
simNIX	apt-mirror can be ran to update the files when everybody is home / Inet usage is at lightest	02:59
OsamaK	Hello. I'm going to format my Ubuntu partition today to install Ubuntu 9.04 (I just want a new starting). What's the best: to use EXT3 or EXT4?	02:59
Ububegin	MaT-dg: Ah... I forgot the americans are still stuck on the 22nd..... :) ... so any ideas how many more hours to go	02:59
n8tuser	Jak_o_Shadows -> you have an existing linux installed or this is the first one?	03:00
studentz	thedust: did you try wibi install directly form windows	03:00
hsinam	Ububegin: 2 more hours	03:00
cfowler	It is 10pm on Eastern Coast of US	03:00
PhotoJim	the Canadians are still suck on the 22nd too (and prefer not to be called Americans)	03:00
Jak_o_Shadows	first one really. it doesn't let me boot when i install. so effectively i don't have linux installed	03:00
thebackwash	Guest64612: You may make a text file containing the full path to all the executables (e.g. /usr/bin/firefox), with a space and a single & after each one. separate each program by a return. add 'sleep 5' for 5 seconds' pause after launching each one.	03:00
PhotoJim	11:30 east coast Canada, 7:00 west coast	03:00
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; but i have to consider both...clients connected to the server and machines on the internet (home)	03:00
thedust	no i will try that thank you,	03:00
Ububegin	hsinam: Ok dokie... Its almost brunch time on the 23rd here (Singapore) ....	03:01
lighttitan	I can't figure out this chmod shit. Anyone want to direct me to a tutorial I can understand? I found one on google, but I can't understand it.	03:01
studentz	the dust: usually when you restart your computer you should press del and you enter to the BIOS	03:01
thebackwash	Guest64612: sorry maybe i can post a sample way to do this on pastebin. it's hard to explain, but easy to understand once you see it.	03:01
Jak_o_Shadows	or F2 or something	03:01
Jak_o_Shadows	shoudl com eup on screen	03:01
^Phantom^	LOL	03:02
Ububegin	lighttitan: http://www.ss64.com/bash/chmod.html	03:02
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, then a script at clients that checks somehow if its at campus or at home and set at home to use normal online mirror instead of the campus one will save the campus a load of outbound bandwidth	03:02
lighttitan	Ubunbegin, thank you	03:02
^Phantom^	I unmounted my internal hard drive and a message at the bottom of the screen came up saying "this device is now safe to remove"	03:02
lighttitan	Ububegin, thanks	03:02
andrewkk	X11 is quitting immediately after it starts, but the Xorg log reports no errors. Where should I look to try to solve this?	03:02
Ububegin	lighttitan: One thanks is sufficient dude..... :D	03:02
kitche	andrewkk: most likely not an Xorg issue mroe of a gdm/gnome issue	03:03
picaboo	hi guys! :)	03:03
andrewkk	kitche: thanks, I'll check around there.	03:03
h8red	hey. are there any pdf editors for linux other than pdf edit? for whatever reason, the menu uptions in pdfedit are not visible	03:03
lighttitan	Ububegin, I mispelled your name the first time, so I said it again in case you missed it. Didn't want to appear ungrateful.	03:03
h8red	probably due to an nvidia issue	03:04
tgr	has anyone here successfully gotten a refund for microsoft vista?	03:04
Pici	!ot	03:04
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	03:04
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; yes but maybe if i limit it to only our campus students to update from their homes and not anyone else...it might help...but the question is how to do this??	03:04
studentz	^Phanton: there is a process running, System --> Admin -->System Monitor you will find which process it is	03:04
Ububegin	tgr: proceed to #windows	03:04
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; or maybe i have to request the department head to increase the speed	03:04
thebackwash	Guest64612: if you're still here, visit here: pastebin.com/m16d1a98e	03:05
tgr	Ububegin: who in #windows would request a refund for vista?	03:05
tgr	just curious	03:05
rocky_	hello	03:05
tgr	they are windows users	03:05
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I gotta doze off - shutting down for the night ... a bash script at boot could copy a diferent apt.sources depending on where it -is - for how that I dont have recepy ready for ..	03:05
lighttitan	Ububegin, WOot, it worked! I now have access to my harddrives :)	03:05
LjL	!ot \| tgr	03:05
ubottu	tgr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	03:05
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; thanks lots of help i got from you	03:06
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, with this puzzled out clients not use presious bandwidt ANd the cleints get best speed	03:06
=== zach is now known as Guest12594
Guest12594	anyone here able to help me with a printing setup problem??	03:06
^Phantom^	okay	03:06
Ububegin	lighttitan: get that site bookmarked... it can help you with all types of linux commands..	03:06
simNIX	I hope the puzzle peices make a stable beasty :o)	03:06
=== Guest12594 is now known as Caskey100
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; i didnt get what you said..can you make it clear	03:07
h8red	I guess no other pdf editors for linux? :(	03:07
stealth-	is there any way to get back a file i deleted from the command line (opps!)?	03:07
h8red	damn	03:07
PerryArmstrong	tgr; refund??	03:07
Caskey100	For some reason Ubuntu won't print on my local Lexmark printer even though it is installed	03:07
=== mab83 is now known as mab83_
thebackwash	stealth-: try rm -W	03:07
Ububegin	So does Ubuntu 9 solve the wireless/wired connectivity issue...	03:07
thebackwash	stealth-: it says it will try to recover the file	03:07
Caskey100	keeps saying it may be dissconected	03:07
studentz	tgr: I know there was a case in the court in Europe and they gain so they refund something like $80	03:08
thebackwash	stealth-: if you can't get it back, take your computer to somewhere that offers data recovery services	03:08
^Phantom^	here's a problem i'm having with wine: whenever i connect to a server with mirc (6.21) the program appears to close itself out. What might be causing this and what can I do to get around it?	03:08
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, IF you figure out howto get clients at boot to have a different apt.sources depending if at campus or not will make clients not use presious bandwidt of campus when at home ANd that wil make that clients get best speed	03:08
stealth-	thebackwash: there is no -W arguement in the rm command, according to bash and man	03:08
ke_	hello, I am new to linux, what is the best way to add a directory to the $PATH variable ? wish to add ~/bin	03:09
thebackwash	stealth-: oh, ok. i'm not on linux right now. sorry then.	03:09
Stanlin	help	03:09
Stanlin	Hibernation crash my computer, HELP!!!	03:09
stealth-	thebackwash: its all good, thanks for trying	03:09
stealth-	any one else know a way to get data back after its been deleted via the CLI?	03:09
=== mab83_ is now known as mab83
Ububegin	!ubuntu9.05	03:10
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu9.05	03:10
Ububegin	!ubuntu 9.05	03:10
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu 9.05	03:10
simNIX	stealth-, backups are best fix - else very dificult	03:10
simNIX	gotta go - latersssssssssss	03:10
KingKimi	!jaunty > ububegin	03:10
ubottu	ububegin, please see my private message	03:10
francis	Stanlin: www.apple.com/getamac	03:10
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; the clients at home are the people who are going to work on Ubuntu development... so its not all of the students..its only those who are on the craze for Ubuntu who are a handful	03:10
stealth-	simNIX: it was from my backups :(	03:10
thebackwash	ke_: open up (or create) /home/username/.bashrc, and type export PATH='$PATH:/home/username/bin'	03:10
Webu	!jaunty > Webu	03:10
ubottu	Webu, please see my private message	03:11
^Phantom^	it's really annoying, because it always worked in my virtual ubuntu maching	03:11
^Phantom^	machine*	03:11
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; but then i want to moderate who can update??	03:11
thebackwash	ke_: save and exit	03:11
Matr\|X	i installed server lamp but i want to unstall evry thing agine	03:11
b14ck	hey, i installed amarok on ubuntu 9.04, but it wont play like 90% of my music, worked fine on gentoo	03:11
b14ck	it seems like it doesnt want to play my mp3 v0 files	03:11
Pici	!jaunty > b14ck	03:11
ubottu	b14ck, please see my private message	03:11
b14ck	any idea why?	03:11
stealth-	Webu: for future reference, you can message ubottu via the "/msg ubottu !factiod" rather than writing in the channel	03:12
Stanlin	francis: but im heterosexual i cant use that	03:12
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, if only a few use it from home dont open it up to the Internet - let them at home use a normal mirror -> much saver	03:12
francis	Stanlin: u funnies	03:12
eseven73	is the apache2 config httpd.conf, sites-available, or sites-enabled?	03:12
francis	actually no u not funnies	03:12
simNIX	and faser for them	03:12
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; okk	03:12
Webu	stealth-, oh yes - thank you for poiniting me out.	03:12
* coskund is away (Gule Gule (Cevrim Disi) \| Bye Bye (Offline))		03:13
stealth-	Webu: np, lol, I was just messaging it and noticed you did it to :P	03:13
=== coskund is now known as CoskunD
simNIX	night	03:13
simNIX	mornig already even - )	03:13
eseven73	!away > CoskunD	03:13
ubottu	CoskunD, please see my private message	03:13
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; something interesting http://popey.com/Creating_an_Ubuntu_repository_mirror_with_apt-mirror	03:13
Stanlin	francis: well my laptop has quad core, 8gb ram, 1080p. Mac only delivers underdeveloped crap overhyped	03:13
jimmy51_home	hello, i have an hp scanjet 3970. i run kubuntu 8.10 with GDM apps. i can't seem the scanning apps to detect my scanner, even though it shows up in "lsusb". what do i need to do?	03:13
studentz	^Phantom^ I haven't use mirc, but there are others alternatives open source, sorry I cannot help you :(	03:13
OsamaK	called some one answer my ext3/ext4 question above?	03:13
KingKimi	i isntalled ubuntu by manual method.... and i RESIZED C to create ext and a swap and remaining of C ///// but my windows cant boot :( help me :( :(	03:13
francis	Stanlin: tell u what, when your computer stops crashing on hibernate	03:13
OsamaK	* could :)	03:13
francis	come back and talk to me :P	03:13
Matr\|X	i installed lamp server but i want to unstall evry thing agine wht command to unstall evry thing	03:13
Caskey100	can anyone help me with the installation of a local printer???	03:13
francis	until then, just bury ur head in shame brother :P	03:14
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, that looks good	03:14
Stanlin	any advice on Hibernation??	03:14
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; ya	03:14
^Phantom^	Actually, is there any way xchat can support mirc scripts?	03:14
Matr\|X	can anyone help me with unstalling lamp-server	03:14
tgr	PerryArmstrong: http://equiliberate.org/?q=node/3	03:14
simNIX	realy gotta go - 415 am - and gotta go job hunting tomorow	03:14
hal14450	woah what happened w/ the chan switch there?	03:14
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; can the server on hardy provide updations for jaunty clients??	03:15
Matr\|X	hello	03:15
studentz	Casey100 System --> Administration ---> Printing click new and follow the instructions	03:15
Matr\|X	!help lamp-server	03:15
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	03:15
Madpilot	ubottu, lamp \| Matr\|X	03:15
ubottu	Matr\|X: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)	03:15
Caskey100	studentz: I have tried that and it still won't physically print	03:15
studentz	whivh printer do you have	03:16
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, yes - apt-mirror can grab any release - in this case testing if im not mistaken	03:16
Caskey100	studentz: Lexmark X2690	03:16
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; testing what??	03:16
studentz	Casey100 give me a minute	03:16
simNIX	Jaunty = testing right ?	03:17
Caskey100	studentz: ok	03:17
Matr\|X	i installed it yestrday but today give me some error caz one file is missing or somthing	03:17
andrewkk	kitche: fyi, apparently xinerama was to blame. I'm not sure why there weren't any error messages.	03:17
Madpilot	Matr\|X, asking questions in-channel is a far better way to get help than random PMing	03:18
Madpilot	Matr\|X, also, pls be more specific than "some error"	03:18
Matr\|X	sorry	03:19
Matr\|X	i have problem now	03:19
vincentpsp2	what time has come ubuntu 9.04	03:19
Madpilot	have you run the error you get thru a google search?	03:19
brianski	am i the only one having issues with firefox hanging (while displaying 'finished checking Xulrunner) after the latest upgrade?	03:19
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, I may be mixing it up with Debian - there not out version = called testing if you grab it with apt-mirror	03:19
Matr\|X	ok	03:19
Matr\|X	now im newbe	03:19
mkasson	I just set up my kids computer to dual boot Ubuntu and Win	03:19
mkasson	how do I get grub to boot ubuntu by default?	03:19
cirE1	how do i run the update manager for new 9.04?	03:19
hal14450	mkasson, change the order in /boot/grub/menu.lst	03:20
Matr\|X	i installed this struff apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server then i unstall it .. now i want to install evry thing agine but its wont install	03:20
mkasson	hal14450, do I have to boot from livecd to do that?	03:20
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; okk...anyways i am on intrepid now...in 30 minutes i'll be on a jaunty after restarting my machine	03:20
newcomer	mkasson, no	03:20
mkasson	cool, thanks	03:20
simNIX	PerryArmstrong, night m8	03:20
Caskey100	Studentz: you still there??	03:20
simNIX	nice meeting ya	03:20
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; good nite...sleep well	03:20
simNIX	ty	03:21
PerryArmstrong	simNIX; ya nice metting you too	03:21
cirE1	whats the command to update to new distro?	03:21
hal14450	mkasson, no but you'll have to edit the file using a sudo command like gksudo gedit or sudo nano /path/to/menu.lst	03:21
KingKimi	fdisk -l	03:21
KingKimi	Cannot open /dev/sda	03:21
KingKimi	how do i open /dev/sda ?????	03:21
tonyyarusso	cirE1: Check the release notes.	03:21
mkasson	hal14450, no probs with that	03:21
grendal_prime	is it possible to natively play mac stuff yet?	03:21
brianski	KingKimi: throw a sudo in there	03:21
brianski	sudo fdisk -l	03:21
tonyyarusso	cirE1: 9.04 is not out yet.	03:21
grendal_prime	sounds like a stupid question i know..im just curriouse is all	03:22
studentz	Caskey100 Yes, just searching the database in the linux fundation	03:22
cirE1	isn't the RC out?	03:22
brianski	grendal_prime: what do you mean exactly?	03:22
hal14450	mkasson, just backup the file before hand so you don't doa footbullet	03:22
KingKimi	brianski, thnx !	03:22
=== Splappy_ is now known as Splappy
cirE1	but yea it should be released in the next hour and a half	03:22
_chun	Can anyone help: I installed the latest Realtek drivers for my soundcard, but now the microphone jack refuses to work. How/where can I re-install the default sound drivers in ubuntu? (I'm fairly new to linux as a whole)	03:22
Caskey100	studentz: okay thank you I am also doing the same	03:22
newcomer	mkasson, just change the line "default 0" to "default 1" or whatever ubuntu is	03:22
brianski	cirE1: the "RC" is out, but it is a candidate that failed to get elected - 9.04 release will not be the same as RC1	03:22
Matr\|X	root@xob:/# apt-get remove apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl libmysqlclient15off libnet-daemon-perl libplrpc-perl libpq5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 php5-common php5-mysql	03:22
Matr\|X	Reading package lists... Done	03:22
Matr\|X	Building dependency tree	03:22
Matr\|X	Reading state information... Done	03:22
Matr\|X	The following packages will be REMOVED:	03:22
FloodBot2	Matr\|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:22
Matr\|X	apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapr1 libaprutil1 libdbd-mysql-perl libdbi-perl	03:22
cirE1	oh thanks for the heads up!	03:23
Stanlin	Help me or I will ask for a refund!!!	03:23
thebackwash	Stanlin: give me your paypal info. i'll send you a refund ;)	03:23
mkasson	newcomer, ah even better	03:24
jats	Hey, would someone mind helping me with mkisofs? It's not really the topic but I couldn't find anyone at #dvdstyler, and I'm pretty sure mkisofs doesn't have its own channel.	03:24
grendal_prime	i just see alot of opensource like educational games for mac...it has been my assumption i would need a mac emulator to run them	03:25
studentz	Casey100: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-X2690	03:25
Guest64560	hey is there a command to display all the programs that I may run from the terminal? for example if I have firefox, I can type in "firefox" in the terminal to run it, but some programs are spelled differently when run from terminal	03:26
grendal_prime	brianski: just wondered if some of them are...runnable without an emulator or vm type enviroment	03:26
soldats	anyone notice the package build-essential isnt authenticated.	03:26
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:27
Stanlin	thebackwash: stanling@commie.com	03:27
Caskey100	studentz: how do use this information provided I'm new to linux	03:27
jats	Guest6...:I	03:27
dft	is oOo 3 pkgd for 8.10?	03:27
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studentz	Casey100 It has two penguins Mostly works on Linux	03:27
tonyyarusso	dft: yes.	03:28
tonyyarusso	dft: You can get it from the PPA.	03:28
studentz	Casey100 click on CUPS in the gray box	03:28
Guest64560	jats: ..what?	03:28
jats	Guest6...:I'm not sure you'd want a complete list, I would think on a system with many packages there would be quite alot. One thing you could try is type the first few characters, then hit <TAB>	03:28
Fiuza	hi there	03:28
josh977	I'm upgrading my laptop from ibex to jaunty. --I'm scared.	03:28
dft	tonyyarusso: ty	03:28
Fiuza	i need help	03:28
Caskey100	STudentz so that can mean it prolly just doesn't work w/ this distro of Linux	03:28
Guest64560	o ok	03:29
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:29
jats	Sorry Guest, hit enter too soon the first time.	03:29
marduke	hellas	03:29
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:29
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:29
Matr\|X	plz help me3	03:29
Guest64560	not working...I type in a few characters, press tab--> nothign happends	03:29
jats	Guest:There probably is a way. I don't know of one, maybe someone else does?	03:29
Caskey100	Studentz its weird Ubuntu picked it up right away but just won't print a document	03:29
studentz	Caskey100: No, CUPS works for all linux distros	03:30
jats	Guest: sorry, I should have said hit it twice.	03:30
Guest64560	o I see	03:30
studentz	Caskey give some time to help you I'm reading spec of your printer	03:30
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:31
h8red	can someone tell me why on certain programs I can't view the text inside the file menus? i think this has something to do with the fact that i have an nvidia card.	03:31
Caskey100	studentz: okay thanks	03:31
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:31
Matr\|X	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156277/	03:31
Matr\|X	help me plz	03:31
Matr\|X	my intrnset is dirty:S	03:32
JECHO	h8red: are you using a dark theme?	03:32
jats	Hitting it once works when there is only one possibility. If I type 'base6' on my system the only possibility is a program called base64, so 1 tab brings that up. Tabbing works also for paths (probably more useful).	03:32
Yud_Zroc	who would like to try to fully convert me	03:32
jdu	Yud_Zroc: to ubuntu?	03:32
Fiuza	what's trouble Matr\|x?	03:32
h8red	Jecho no	03:32
Fiuza	what's trouble Matr\|X?	03:32
Yud_Zroc	jdu: away from windows to linux in general	03:33
Pici	!ot	03:33
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	03:33
Fiuza	faitz: hello	03:33
* jdu goes to offtopic		03:33
* Yud_Zroc does the same		03:33
h8red	I had to disable antialiasing or something in OpenOffice's settings to get it to work. I'm assuming those same problems are preventing me from seeing the menu text in Scribus and PDFEdit. Is there a universal way to disable antialiasing of text so I don't have to jack with it for every single app this happens to?	03:33
Stanlin	OK I GIVE UP	03:34
Fiuza	h8red	03:34
Matr\|X	i sent the link	03:34
Matr\|X	i had install lamp-server	03:34
Matr\|X	then i unstall it	03:34
Matr\|X	now i want to install it agine	03:34
FloodBot2	Matr\|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:34
Matr\|X	!ping $me	03:34
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ping $me	03:34
h8red	yes Fiuza?	03:35
studentz	Caskey100 here is the driver http://downloads.lexmark.com/perl/downloads/downloads.cgi	03:35
JECHO	Floodbot2 are yo ua person?	03:35
studentz	Caskey100: choose the first one	03:35
Pici	JECHO: Its a bot.	03:36
Caskey100	Studentz: okay	03:36
JECHO	Pici: thats what i thought but after reading some of its messages i wasnt sure	03:36
eseven73	you'd think the name 'bot' in FloodBot* would tell you it's a bot :)	03:36
joetheodd	Hey guys.. I want to use airsnort-ng to detect wifi passwords, but I'm not sure how to get raw wireless captures.	03:37
JECHO	joetheodd is your wireless card capable?	03:37
TheFunkbomb	joetheodd, is your wireless card in monitor mode?	03:37
JECHO	joetheodd only some cards are supported	03:37
TheFunkbomb	rt73 FTW!	03:37
joetheodd	I think my card's capable. How can I test?	03:37
TheFunkbomb	go into a terminal and put in iwconfig	03:38
TheFunkbomb	see if it's monitor mode	03:38
joetheodd	TheFunkbomb, doesn't say it is. Do I have to enable monitor mode?	03:39
TheFunkbomb	yes	03:39
joetheodd	How do I go about doing that?	03:39
TheFunkbomb	what card is it?	03:39
vanja989	im new here..i wanna make two difrent acounts for me and my mom	03:39
vanja989	How???	03:39
vanja989	But i want to limit her acssesing to my files	03:40
TheFunkbomb	joetheodd, what card is it?	03:40
joetheodd	TheFunkbomb, an integrated intel card	03:40
vanja989	i mean i dont wanna nothing to see	03:40
TheFunkbomb	I don't think that's supported	03:40
TheFunkbomb	I'm not sure though	03:40
joetheodd	TheFunkbomb, I've got a Realtek USB one	03:40
joetheodd	(also)	03:40
vanja989	what???	03:40
vanja989	:(	03:40
joetheodd	vanja989, type adduser <name> in a console	03:40
TheFunkbomb	joetheodd, I'll tell you how to do it but I take no responsibility	03:41
jats	vanja989:readup on file permissions	03:41
joetheodd	TheFunkbomb, fair enough.	03:41
joetheodd	TheFunkbomb, I'm used to breaking my system. I'm on jaunty anyhow :)	03:41
jeff__	vanja989: creating accounts is done under the system tab. to change file permissions, right click on a folder and look under properties. just remember to apply your permissions RECURSIVELY.	03:41
KingKimi	i use APTON CD to create an iso.... when i restore iso .... NOTHING got installed.... help me with this .........	03:41
TheFunkbomb	joetheodd, go into terminal and type "sudo ifconfig (card name) down". Then type "sudo iwconfig (cardname) mode monitor"	03:41
TheFunkbomb	then finally "sudo ifconfig (card name) up"	03:42
TheFunkbomb	then type in iwconfig and see if it's in monitor mode	03:42
jats	vanja: Also try TrueCrypt, it password protects files. I think in 9.04 there is an encrypted directory that is automatically de-encrypted with your logon password.	03:42
KingKimi	how do i add to grub ?? it says "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again."	03:44
KingKimi	help me to get permission	03:44
ernakk3	hi i need some help. i had xp pro installed, then put on xubuntu install with no problems. now i had to reinstall xp so i put on xp home, and now i cant load into my xubuntu system at all, how do i fix this?	03:44
ernakk3	right now i'm using the xubuntu live cd, as the xp home didnt even detect my other harddrive which had drivers on it	03:44
ernakk3	so i have access to my drive which is partitioned for both xubuntu and xp home	03:44
joao	hi	03:44
karsten	ernakk3: reinstall grub	03:44
ernakk3	actually neither my drives show up in file manager	03:45
ernakk3	under media	03:45
ernakk3	nothing shows up	03:45
ernakk3	so still reinstall grub/	03:45
karsten	ernakk3: Sorry, I can't stick around, but that's your solution, either Google or ask channel.	03:45
spenser	Hi, can anyone tell me at what time the release can be expected? I'm helping with an install fest, and I need to get the images ASAP.	03:45
ernakk3	k thanks	03:45
karsten	ernakk3: got shell skillz?	03:45
ernakk3	nope	03:45
ernakk3	total new to this	03:45
KingKimi	HOW DO I ADD lines to grub ?? it says DONT HAEV permision..... how do i get permission ???	03:45
studentz	KingKimi: to have access to grub you have to use 'sudo'	03:45
karsten	ernakk3: Well, I can't teach you now. But /proc/partitions would show any recognized devices.	03:45
jeff__	KingKimi: use "gksudo" if you're using a graphical editor.	03:45
karsten	ernakk3: gotta split. Laterz	03:46
ernakk3	karstem: ok cool, yeah i know some stuff	03:46
hal14450	KingKimi, sudo	03:46
ernakk3	bye	03:46
S02B9Z7V40KUVJQQ	"No, no, do the goldfish!" cried the hairy office secretary as the corpulent ex-celibate penetrated her pink-tipped globes and reamed his rapidly dwindling John Thomas into her soft-spoken honeypot.	03:46
hal14450	gksudo for a gui	03:46
KingKimi	jeff, gksudo /boot/grub.list ?	03:46
lolololo	ernakk3: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html	03:46
vanja989	i expecting for u to help me tmrw..Now is 4 46 here n i got 2 go	03:46
Mike94287	What time is Jaunty coming out?	03:46
KingKimi	jeff, i need a command to edit menu.lst	03:46
Pici	!isitout \| Mike94287	03:46
ubottu	Mike94287: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	03:46
tonyyarusso	Mike94287: #ubuntu-release-party for all such questions. #ubuntu is for support only.	03:46
ernakk3	yeah that file shows exactly what my drives are	03:46
ernakk3	so it's there	03:47
ernakk3	have to mount it	03:47
ernakk3	anyone know how	03:47
FloodBot2	ernakk3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:47
jeff__	KingKimi: no, use gksudo gedit (insert grub directory here)	03:47
studentz	KingKimi in a terminal type 'sudo + ther resty of the command '	03:47
wy	Hello, anybody know how to download pages in a wiki site recursively?	03:48
KingKimi	jeff_ thanks	03:48
lolololo	wy google for wget	03:48
wy	lolololo: I'm using it, but it stops at the first page with -r and some other options	03:48
eseven73	wy try DownThemAll maybe or Flashgot	03:49
jeff__	KingKimi: no problem :) ... if you're feeling hardcore, then read about the terminal on help.ubuntu.com or another such tutorial.	03:49
lolololo	lemme check the switches	03:49
ErgyJB	hello	03:49
wy	so I guess maybe the site is a little different.	03:49
jedi06	why isn't my cdrom mounting so i can see the files	03:49
etzerd	hello	03:50
commodore256	hey	03:50
etzerd	what's new today?	03:50
KingKimi	jeff__, thanks for the tip !	03:50
commodore256	I don't know	03:50
jedi06	when i click on the cdrom it just doesn't do anything	03:50
jedi06	does it log what is going on somewhere	03:51
lolololo	wy maybe the site is blocking your user agent	03:51
commodore256	type eject in your terminal	03:51
lolololo	try passing -U Mozilla	03:51
evilhack02	hello	03:52
wy	lolololo: I tried. It doesn't work. It's just a trivial site. There shouldn't be any blocks I guess	03:52
lolololo	wy what url?	03:52
evilhack02	a day for ubuntu 9.04	03:53
studentz	evilhack02: here 10:54 (11 hrs)	03:54
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ZeroLux	slated for a noon release?	03:55
evilhack02	should compile 2.6.30	03:55
evilhack02	the ubuntu 9.04	03:56
slew	hello, im thinking about using ubuntu, but i have a an hp laptop. the wireless is turned on or off by a button on a panel, not a switch or anything. will ubuntu work with my laptop?	03:56
JackWat\|Lap	slew: button on a panel?	03:56
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eseven73	wy try wget --recursive --page-requisites --convert-links www.webaddressgoeshere.com This will DOWNLOAD Everything on a site lol so you've been warned	03:56
evilhack02	should compile 2.6.30 delete bugs	03:56
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Level15	hello. something weird is happening on my gnome. WHen I open a new window, the mouse pointer moves to its center. I thought it was some accessibility feature I had accidentally turned oon but can't find an option related on gnome settings. any hints?	03:57
jdu	slew, likely, yes. You should probably google your laptop to see other people's experiences but normally things like that work.	03:57
KingKimi	what is "update-gnome"	03:57
KingKimi	how do i install it ?	03:57
jdu	Level15: mouse warping?	03:57
Crash1hd	does clamTK see / detect viruses in .exe files?	03:57
etzerd	?	03:57
KingKimi	Crash1hd, YES !	03:57
jdu	Level15: you might find the setting for it in: gconf-editor	03:58
slew	jdu thanks	03:58
KingKimi	Crash1hd, do a recursive scan of your windows drives and it will get good number of Exe.s :P	03:58
evilhack02	the solution is in gnome ubuntu 9.04 eliminates these bugs	03:58
studentz	should compile 2.6.30-rc3	03:58
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evilhack02	yes	03:58
Crash1hd	KingKimi: ok :) thanks just was wondering cause I put a drive in and is testing it now that avg had found but clamTK isnt seeing yet	03:58
etzerd	I have a Verizon UM150 Mobile Broadband USB Modem that I want to set up, can anyone here help me with it?	03:58
Crash1hd	its still scanning though	03:58
Level15	jdu: ok, let me check that	03:58
jdu	no problem, I hope it works for you.	03:58
Level15	jdu: why on earth would it auto activate itself?	03:59
KingKimi	Crash1hd, updated clam ?	03:59
studentz	plus fix ubuntu bug # 1	03:59
Crash1hd	it says its uptodate	03:59
jdu	Level15: probably, it was some how accidentally turned on. I don't think mouse warming is ever a default.	03:59
jdu	*warping	03:59
KingKimi	Crash1hd, there is also avast version for ubuntu	03:59
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evilhack02	I think that bill gates is gay	04:00
Crash1hd	Cool :)	04:00
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KingKimi	evilhack02, ;-)	04:01
eseven73	!ot \| evilhack02	04:01
ubottu	evilhack02: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	04:01
blouf	hi	04:01
* misplacedme waves and whatnot		04:01
KingKimi	blouf, hi..!!	04:01
blouf	anyone know for when is jaunty planned ?	04:01
eseven73	!isitout	04:01
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	04:01
evilhack02	sorry	04:02
blouf	ok thanks anyway	04:03
tgr	anyone here use verizon usb wifi on ubuntu?	04:03
perlooooooooo	hello guys	04:03
schambers	i am using ubuntu in a vmware instance and flash seems to be using an awful lot of cpu	04:03
perlooooooooo	is there any way to read .wvm in ubuntu	04:03
blouf	last one, is there anyway to upgrade directly to jaunty or i'll have to make a fresh install ?	04:03
space_cadet	tgr i know someone that used the sprint card in ubuntu using wine and the windows setup wizard	04:03
schambers	i installed flashblock, but it's still running sluggish	04:03
space_cadet	schambers, goto about:config	04:03
space_cadet	schambers, type ipv6	04:04
dani	hello	04:04
tgr	space_cadet: thanks for the input	04:04
jdu	blouf: the update manager will allow you to update to jaunty provided you have intrepid	04:04
studentz	perlooooooooooooooooo : YES	04:04
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perlooooooooo	how	04:04
perlooooooooo	??	04:04
space_cadet	schambers, make the "disable ipv6 dns" = true	04:04
blouf	jdu, great, i guess it will be like every update right ?	04:05
Guest46929	I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????	04:05
Guest46929	<dani> I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page???????	04:05
space_cadet	depends on what you want	04:05
jdu	blouf: yes except it will have a slightly different dialog and it will take much longer...	04:05
schambers	how do i save once i am done?	04:05
blouf	jdu, i guess so	04:05
space_cadet	schambers, restart firefox	04:06
jdu	blouf: depends on your internet connection of course.	04:06
outbackwifi	!hi	04:06
ubottu	Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	04:06
space_cadet	schambers, once you change it, a restart applies	04:06
evilhack02	ubuntu is a report of certain errors	04:06
evilhack02	beware of the virtual box looking for a patch I still do not find what I seek	04:06
studentz	perloooooooooo: install medibuntu sources, w32codecs, mplayer	04:06
perlooooooooo	that what i did	04:06
blouf	jdu, but what i really want to know is ... about ext4, it'll not make my current system a mess ?	04:06
space_cadet	schambers, just so you know, that will only speed up the initial "searching for blahblah.com"	04:06
perlooooooooo	but doesnt work for all the files	04:06
evilhack02	is cool men perloooooooo	04:06
space_cadet	schambers, if you are experiencing slowness still, look into the RIGHT WAY to use pipelining	04:07
Guest46929	I have a question, in SOFTWARE SOURCES, what should be checked in Third Party Software page?? because right now nothing is checked at all	04:07
jdu	blouf: from what I read, it might cause certain problems, but I don't think they are serious, per se.	04:07
space_cadet	schambers, or ..... upgrade your internet service....	04:07
schambers	pipelining?	04:07
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schambers	well this is ubuntu running in a vm	04:07
schambers	with vmware	04:07
space_cadet	schambers, sending multiple requests at a time	04:07
studentz	perloooo; are you in 32 or 64	04:07
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outbackwifi	Guest46929: that would depend on what 3rd party software you want to install	04:07
space_cadet	schambers, lol...	04:07
schambers	firefox is just being a system hog it seems	04:08
perlooooooooo	ZA	04:08
perlooooooooo	21	04:08
perlooooooooo	32	04:08
blouf	jdu, oh :( problems like ?	04:08
outbackwifi	!enter \| perlooooooooo	04:08
ubottu	perlooooooooo: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	04:08
fearthenofear	I installed openoffice.org of which I cd into the directory and then sudo dpkg -i *.deb and it installed but it didn't show up anywhere....	04:08
space_cadet	schambers, get virtualbox	04:08
scunizi	evilhack02: what issue are you having with vbox?	04:08
Spock2f	hello world :)	04:08
Guest46929	which ones would you recommend me outbackwifi? im a noob	04:08
space_cadet	schambers, that is true... it is a system hog.	04:08
schambers	any good alternatives on ubuntu for browsers?	04:09
jdu	blouf: delayed rights resulting in program instability in certain scenarios. Some people reported kernel freezes on deletes in jaunty.	04:09
pc	jdu, blouf: I can't imagine one will be forced to ext4, will one?	04:09
schambers	they dont have a chrome linux version yet do they?	04:09
evilhack02	must be broken in the Open Office package	04:09
jdu	rights = writes	04:09
r33tfux0r	Good evening. Is there a way to perform the special Ubuntu Server LAMP metapackage on ubuntu desktop or do you just install the components separately	04:09
outbackwifi	Guest46929: hard to tell, for example, I am using the array.org kernel for my Eeepc so I have the array.org repositories in there	04:09
jdu	pc: no	04:09
blouf	pc : i hope no	04:09
outbackwifi	schambers: look for chromium	04:09
jdu	pc: it is an option on the alternate cd	04:09
Guest46929	im on a laptop	04:09
scunizi	r33tfux0r: yes there's a couple of ways.. on cli tasksel lamp.. in synaptic there is a menu option to install lamp but you have to dig for it	04:10
outbackwifi	Guest46929: like they say, if you dont know what it is, you probably dont need it	04:10
blouf	pc, jdu : i don't want to format & make a new system ... i think i'll not use the ext4 :/	04:10
space_cadet	outbackwifi, eee FTW	04:10
r33tfux0r	ahhh cool i thought it was a task	04:10
r33tfux0r	scunizi, thanks mate	04:10
studentz	perlooooooo: did you already install libdvdread3 and libdvdcss2?	04:10
Guest46929	oki doki thanks outback	04:10
space_cadet	outbackwifi, actually, asus FTW	04:10
scunizi	r33tfux0r: if you look in synaptic for the tasks you'll see several things you can do.. no problem	04:10
evilhack02	EX4 is unstable I would not recommend	04:11
outbackwifi	space_cadet: whats an FTW	04:11
space_cadet	outbackwifi, me? asus M70Vm-x1 <off topic>	04:11
pc	blouf: so the upgrade to jaunty should be somewhat painless (<hope>)	04:11
space_cadet	outbackwifi, For The Win	04:11
blouf	pc, jdu : do i really loose something great ?	04:11
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blouf	pc, jdu : s/loose/lose	04:11
Patrick904	Hello. I want to update from 8.04 to 8.10. If I backup my home folder and replace it in 8.10 will my apps, themes, icons, and other settings be as they were in 8.04?	04:11
outbackwifi	space_cadet: i was addressing my responses to Guest46929	04:11
evilhack02	gnome art	04:12
evilhack02	www.gnomeart.com	04:12
CITguy-Artemis	Patrick904: they should, I would highly suggest that when you install 8.10, you separate / and /home on separate partitions	04:12
space_cadet	outbackwifi, i was saying that ASUS rocks, and I have one too.	04:12
space_cadet	+2 CITguy-Artemis	04:13
scunizi	Patrick904: back it up just for safety.. when you upgrade the apps etc will also be upgraded to the latest version available	04:13
outbackwifi	space_cadet: oh yes!! i have two of them 701 and 1000 H	04:13
pc	blouf: without ext4?	04:13
space_cadet	niice	04:13
syntax\	has anyone in here tried installing Epson LX-300 (dotmatrix) printer on ubuntu and succeded?	04:13
evilhack02	EX4 alternative is in the kernel	04:14
syntax\	i really really really need to have this printer work on ubuntu 8.10	04:14
space_cadet	syntax\, sounds like my experience with a dell 725	04:14
blouf	pc, yes	04:14
syntax\	space_cadet: were you able to make it work sir?	04:14
pc	blouf: if you're happy with ext3, then no. :-)	04:14
space_cadet	syntax\, nope,	04:14
scunizi	syntax\: epson I believe is one of those companies that doesn't even look at linux	04:14
space_cadet	syntax\, one of the only reasons i still have a windows partition.	04:14
space_cadet	scunizi, like dell and lexmark?	04:15
pc	blouf: and, you can always convert later	04:15
evilhack02	Linus Torvalds does not recommend it to work with a	04:15
scunizi	space_cadet: yep	04:15
outbackwifi	syntax\: i have used a dot matrix printer but not the epson model. I just selected generic 9-pin and it worked like a charm	04:15
space_cadet	outbackwifi, my asus has "instant on linux"	04:15
outbackwifi	space_cadet: whats that??	04:16
space_cadet	outbackwifi, proprietary splashtop	04:16
blouf	pc : oh ok	04:16
scunizi	space_cadet: syntax\ actually after googling epson might be ok.. for some models	04:16
outbackwifi	space_cadet: oh ok	04:16
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space_cadet	outbackwifi, locked down no terminal, etc. just web browser, skype gaim and music player	04:16
syntax\	outbackwifi: well i was able to have it working. but after i tried to shared it poof. i cannot print no more and even if it prints its all characters (useless characters)	04:16
syntax\	now it can't seem to work.	04:16
studentz	sintax: check this http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-LX-300	04:17
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syntax\	and googling doesnt give any decent answers	04:17
scunizi	syntax\: see studentz link above	04:17
outbackwifi	syntax\: a lot of times, just deleting and adding a new printer works	04:17
space_cadet	yeah.. if it worked before. there is still hope	04:17
evilhack02	macosx someone knows if it can be installed on ubuntu	04:17
outbackwifi	syntax\: if youre the adventurous types, tailing /var/log/cups/error_log helps	04:18
syntax\	outbackwifi: did that for a couple of times already	04:18
space_cadet	sure. evilhack02 you can make ubuntu look like mac os X	04:18
scunizi	evilhack02: in a vm.. maybe but it would be an evilhack :)	04:18
Zephyrum	HI guys, I'm sure this has been asked over 9k times, but I'm wondering if there's an official release time (not date) of jaunty?	04:18
scunizi	no	04:18
outbackwifi	!jaunty	04:18
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	04:18
syntax\	studentz: sir there are no drivers available in that link to be downlaoded	04:18
scunizi	syntax\: but info should be there.	04:19
evilhack02	yes	04:19
space_cadet	evilhack02, google ubuntu leopard	04:19
rayk_sland	need to disable all framebuffer stuff on start up including cute console fonts etc. How do I do it?	04:19
evilhack02	leopard	04:20
scunizi	syntax\: says that there is a ghostscript driver	04:20
space_cadet	evilhack02, you get a cool globalmenu and splashy theme, as well as a nice gdm etc.	04:20
evilhack02	no	04:20
draeath	I see 9.04 is out in 1 day. Should I put the RC on, or just wait?	04:20
evilhack02	os mac	04:20
Chaorain	I have Windows XP on a seperate hard drive that is raid 1(mirror). How can I mount it as 1 disk?	04:20
outbackwifi	rayk_sland: if you have a line in your menu.lst turning on fb, remove it. its typically vga=791 or something	04:20
fearthenofear	how do i install openoffice.org 3.0	04:20
space_cadet	evilhack02, install it in a virtual box.... otherwise you may have problems installing it on your machine...	04:21
space_cadet	lol	04:21
space_cadet	mac on a pc	04:21
syntax\	scunizi: im trying to download the ghostscript 8.64	04:21
evilhack02	install my linux	04:21
* scunizi wishes today would be the 24th and all the excitement will then be about the bugs in upgrading or unusual hardware quirks		04:21
space_cadet	it can be done, but it takes some haxx0r1ng	04:21
rayk_sland	outback: that only disables it until the initramfs is done. I think udev brings it all back...	04:21
scunizi	syntax\: ghostscript is in synaptic..	04:21
evilhack02	virtual box OHHH yes	04:21
lolololo	actually latest macs are pcs	04:21
evilhack02	:-0	04:21
fearthenofear	anyone?	04:22
draeath	Anyone? I want to migrate back over to Ubuntu, but I'm wondering if I should go with the RC or wait another day.	04:22
space_cadet	scunizi, hey, i just installed the latest ubuntu, and now my screen says 'tty1' can you help? lol <forseeing the future>	04:22
outbackwifi	rayk_sland: on another note, i remember recomipiling the kernel to turn on framebuffer. you might want to do the reverse.	04:22
scunizi	fearthenofear: you'll get it in the next release tomorrow.	04:22
space_cadet	draeath, i got the RC today...	04:22
fearthenofear	ahhh	04:22
evilhack02		04:22
evilhack02	virtual box but does not support installing leopard	04:22
fearthenofear	alrighty	04:22
cyber_tux90	ih	04:22
scunizi	space_cadet: nope.. lol.. I'm running hardy right now on this lappy	04:22
Jordan_U	space_cadet, Is this the first boot?	04:23
cyber_tux90	IH	04:23
space_cadet	Jordan_U, it was a joke	04:23
draeath	space_cadet: I imagine things are mostly up to date? just the official switch-flipping tomorrow?	04:23
syntax\	scunizi: what to do after?	04:23
syntax\	:((	04:23
space_cadet	draeath, yeah	04:23
studentz	spacecadet: ctr alt f7	04:23
Chaorain	!raid	04:23
ubottu	raid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	04:23
draeath	space_cadet: thanks	04:23
scunizi	syntax\: after insall of ghostscript? install the printer again and look for a driver	04:23
Spock2f	hi channel	04:23
fearthenofear	do i have to live cd install the new version tomorrow? or can i just update it somehow?	04:23
space_cadet	!hi \| Spock2f	04:23
Spock2f	I not speak english	04:23
ubottu	Spock2f: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	04:23
cyber_tux90	Hi spok2f	04:24
Keypad	Hi, I have seam to lost my whole desktop after restarting the other day. I have no idea whats wrong, any one got a clue ?	04:24
space_cadet	Spock2f, u speak ??	04:24
Jordan_U	Spock2f, What language do you speak?	04:24
Spock2f	Portuguese	04:24
Spock2f	Im live in brazil	04:24
space_cadet	!br	04:24
ubottu	Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	04:24
Spock2f	Yeap	04:24
pc	Keypad: you'll need to be a bit more descriptive	04:25
Jordan_U	Keypad, What do you mean by lost the desktop? ( Can't see icons on the desktop, log in to a blank screen, can't log in at all? )	04:25
space_cadet	ctrl alt f7 ?	04:25
space_cadet	lol	04:26
Keypad	pc, The Icons are gone, Cant right click, but all the panels are fine.	04:26
space_cadet	Keypad, open terminal.	04:26
Keypad	done	04:26
space_cadet	wait.	04:26
nmitree	my first time here	04:26
carthik	Keypad, try typing nautilus & in a terminal	04:26
smileboot	im sure this has been asked 10 million times. but does anyone know the time that 9.04 is being released? est preferably	04:26
scunizi	no	04:26
scunizi	no no no	04:26
space_cadet	no no no no	04:27
pc	!hi \| nmitree	04:27
carthik	keypad, nautilus (the file manager) is what manages your "desktop" - and it might have died	04:27
ubottu	nmitree: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	04:27
outbackwifi	sorry dc	04:27
nmitree	Hi	04:27
malv	is there a way to get around the fact that windows xp will not install if there is an lvm partition on the disk?	04:27
nmitree	every one	04:27
eseven73	how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl \| grep ESTABLISHED" I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found	04:27
carthik	malv, #ubuntu aint #xp :P	04:27
Keypad	carthik, I got [1] 7463	04:27
malv	but lvm is related	04:27
space_cadet	Keypad, if that doesn't work check your gconf-editor to make sure "draw desktop" is checked	04:28
Spock2f	space_cadet : it is a sad comment on it, but I am completing my studies in computer science	04:28
carthik	Keypad, kill it and restart it and see what gives	04:28
malv	i am trying to get coexistence between linux and xp	04:28
scunizi	malv: yep.. put an old drive in the machine as a secondary and install to that.. wipe the current drive, install then reinstall ubuntu	04:28
malv	eh, but i only have two disks and they both have lvm on them	04:28
Spock2f	is quite time that I stopped using IRC	04:28
space_cadet	malv, good luck	04:28
Jordan_U	malv, I don't know how, but given that distros like fedora use LVM by default it must be possible	04:28
smileboot	so no one knows the time?	04:28
Spock2f	I'm using Google Desktop to translate my Portuguese	04:28
space_cadet	smileboot, nope.	04:28
Keypad	carthik, I did that it just seams to pop up another file manager window	04:29
outbackwifi	!time	04:29
ubottu	Information about using and setting your computer's clock on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime - See https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/server/C/NTP.html for information on usage of the Network Time Protocol (NTP)	04:29
scunizi	Jordan_U: what does fedora have to do with xp installing on an lvm drive?	04:29
outbackwifi	!lvm	04:29
ubottu	raid is Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID wto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto	04:29
space_cadet	Spock2f, i had google desktop installed, until i rebooted and noticed that my integrated webcam turned on during the boot phase...	04:29
eseven73	how do I add alias to .bashrc if it has quote marks in the command, such as watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl \| grep ESTABLISHED" I get: bash: alias: -tpanl: not found	04:29
Ciros	lol space	04:29
carthik	Keypad, hmm, okay.	04:29
cyber_tux90	‏	04:29
space_cadet	Spock2f, once in took google desktop off, it didn't happen again.	04:29
carthik	eseven73, you create a function instead	04:29
Jordan_U	scunizi, I thought that he was saying that windows was being confused by the existence of an LVM partition, he asked if this could be fixed in any way	04:30
Keypad	space_cadet, How do I check draw desktop in that config editor ?	04:30
t0cableguy	hi, i'm having trouble with amarok 2 on ubuntu 9.04 playing mp3's i am new.. so dont rail me too bad.. mp3 playback installed practically automatically in 8.10.. but no such luck with amarok 2	04:30
eseven73	carthik, how do I do that?	04:30
carthik	eseven73, for things that are more complicated try writing a function instead of an alias in .bashrc	04:30
scunizi	Jordan_U: yep.. windows is confused. won't install on a drive with an lvm partition	04:30
carthik	function myfunction { ...function here }	04:30
space_cadet	keypad /apps/nautilus/preferences/show desktop	04:30
lolololo	eseven73, if you need to do it an alias, the quotes can be escaped with \	04:31
eseven73	carthik, ok thanks ill man bashrc or w/e the man page is for it :)	04:31
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studentz	t0cableguy: Ubuntu 9.04 definitive release?	04:31
t0cableguy	no	04:31
eseven73	lolololo, hmmm you mean replace the quote marks with \ ?	04:31
t0cableguy	i got sick of waiting,	04:31
Keypad	space_cadet, hmm I just ticked it and unticked it and it came back :o	04:31
space_cadet	Keypad, if it was unchecked, you will need to restart your session or kill and restart nautilus to get the icons and shiz back	04:31
space_cadet	lol	04:32
outbackwifi	eseven73: create a file called eseven.sh paste this inside==> watch -n 1 "netstat -tpanl \| grep ESTABLISHED" and chmod +x eseven.sh and move it /create symlink inside you bin	04:32
space_cadet	keypad niice	04:32
randomusr	after installing libdvdcss2 and restricted extras on my laptop, I'm not able to play DVDs, not that I could prior, but what's up?	04:32
Keypad	Thanks space_cadet !	04:32
Jordan_U	scunizi, Well I find it hard to believe that installing fedora would prevent windows from working, so again, there must be a way for them to coexist, unless I am misunderstanding the question	04:32
lolololo	no, prepend the \ to the quotes: watch -n 1 \"netstat -tpanl \| grep ESTABLISHED\"	04:32
space_cadet	Keypad, yep	04:32
cyber_tux90	end	04:32
t0cableguy	studentz, vlc plays mp3's right now though	04:32
studentz	t0cableguy I tested the version one moth before and Amarok played really good. Advice wait for the final release.	04:32
^Phantom^	nothing beats the sound of a vinyl o/~	04:33
Spock2f	I saw now, now that the 9:04 will be officially released:) I use the default OS as 9:04 in the notebook has a 2 months in	04:33
t0cableguy	yea, tomorrow...	04:33
space_cadet	t0cableguy, as long as you set it up right, everything plays mp3's	04:33
Spock2f	ops, in brazil is 00:33 now :)	04:33
scunizi	Jordan_U: I think we're coming from different ends.. I believe he had ubuntu installed with some of the drive using lvm.. then he wanted to install xp .. xp hic-uped because of the lvm	04:33
t0cableguy	well.. amarok is just crapping out on me	04:33
Spock2f	sorry for my bad English	04:33
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ssm2017	hello	04:34
space_cadet	t0cableguy, havent tried since my fresh install... lemmie check	04:34
Spock2f	I read enough experience but it is impossible to actually learn English	04:34
t0cableguy	other than that everythings fine, cept for running separate x servers for nvidia	04:34
eseven73	lolololo, that worked thanks :)	04:34
lolololo	good :)	04:35
space_cadet	t0cableguy, and you expect THAT to work?	04:35
pc	Spock2f: English is pretty difficult language...it's not just you	04:35
t0cableguy	haha	04:35
t0cableguy	it worked in 8.10	04:35
space_cadet	t0cableguy, don't know if i like amarok's new gui	04:35
t0cableguy	its ok.. its shiny and pretty haha	04:35
scunizi	Jordan_U: xp I don't think would have an issue coexisting with any linux install as long as it is installed first.. in most cases.. it's just the lvm that was in question.	04:36
martin	hy	04:36
studentz	t0cableguy: oh yeah, new xserver and nvidia drivers will take some time to work	04:36
Keypad	lol, I cant find a music player I like, because they all are missing shit I want.	04:36
ghostfish	Keypad: I have the same problem	04:36
t0cableguy	for now i'm happy with the twiview and primary screen selection	04:36
space_cadet	t0cableguy, well it seems it's going to take a long time to parse my library, so i will get back to you in about 5 min or so	04:36
AK_Dave	Keypad: language :)	04:36
Spock2f	pc : I've had years of lessons but never really learn it, all my teachers say that the only way to learn is experience	04:36
AK_Dave	Keypad: What is it you NEED that is missing?	04:37
pc	Spock2f: that's often true with any language	04:37
morph3us	when will be available jaunty for download ?	04:37
pc	Spock2f: English just has SO many exceptions to rules	04:37
ghostfish	what I'd like is something with iTunes like song navigation (all one big list, not folder hierarchy on the side) and support for queueing, but alas I haven' found it yet	04:37
pc	!jaunty \| morph3us	04:37
ubottu	morph3us: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	04:37
xlandx	What does this mean "Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to xlandx) from freenode-connect"	04:38
scunizi	ghostfish: check out songbird	04:38
t0cableguy	space_cadet, i dont like amarok's new gui, cus they tore half the options out of it....	04:38
AK_Dave	ghostfish: I hate the "one giant list" thing in iTunes.	04:38
carthik	xlandx, nothing, that is the server checking out how you connect etc	04:38
xlandx	Oh ok, thanks carthik	04:39
space_cadet	t0cableguy, oh wow	04:39
scunizi	xlandx: it's the riaa checking your hd for p2p songs	04:39
Spock2f	I do not know how you see the Brazil, I probably do not know the world as you also do not know Brazil, the media in my view masks the reality of the facts	04:39
space_cadet	scunizi, xlandx and movies, games etc	04:39
ghostfish	AK_Dave: I like it becase then I don't need to keep popping open and closing folders to get at my music, plus I can scroll through and just look at everything, kind of like flipping through a magazine to look for things you like	04:39
pc	Spock2f: that's what the internet is for (maybe) :-)	04:40
t0cableguy	space, is there any good alternative that works similar?	04:40
DogBoy	Spock2f, less so than no media at all	04:40
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space_cadet	t0cableguy, not that ive found	04:40
space_cadet	yet	04:40
AK_Dave	ghostfish: 10,000 songs is a lot to filter through by hand that way.	04:40
scunizi	AK_Dave: he's a speed reader	04:40
pc	it's the google way. search for everything, no folders	04:41
ghostfish	AK_Dave: I've got over 5k and don't really have a problem with it, just type the first few letters when sorted by artist if you want to find something, or use the search bar	04:41
t0cableguy	space, i miss my simple dumb winamp... they always do it right and nobody appreciates it haha...	04:41
space_cadet	t0cableguy, well... chalk another one on amarok bugs	04:41
AK_Dave	ghostfish: You can't search in Amarok?	04:41
Jordan_U	Spock2f, This is a support channel only, try #ubuntu-offtopic	04:42
t0cableguy	amarok wont play my mp3's right now for some reason.. prob some bug with 9.04	04:42
scunizi	t0cableguy: check out xmms2	04:42
space_cadet	t0cableguy, ubuntu-bugs amarok	04:42
ghostfish	AK_Dave: but you still have to deal with all the folders (or at least you did last time I tried it)	04:42
scunizi	t0cableguy: or audacious	04:42
space_cadet	t0cableguy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/365377	04:43
Spock2f	sorry Jordan_U, you are right, bye space_cadet pc DogBoy good day for all and congratulations for new release 9.04 :)	04:44
M4d3L	hi. am looking for help to access my sd disk on my video camera. Here is the log when I plug my camera via usb : http://paste2.org/p/189774 but when I try to mount it I have this error : Apr 22 23:38:53 mdelisle-laptop kernel: [47309.910486] Buffer I/O error on device sdc1, logical block 0	04:44
space_cadet	yep	04:44
t0cableguy	thanks space	04:44
Spock2f	bye	04:44
Kr0ntab	t0cableguy: totem is pretty simple in terms of playing files quickly...	04:44
AK_Dave	M4d3L: What happens when you just plug the SD card into your computer's card reader slot?	04:44
jh_ubuntu	who can use the "makefile"?	04:44
t0cableguy	naa. i'm looking for the support for large collections	04:44
space_cadet	AK_Dave, it should "just mount"	04:44
M4d3L	its an internal SDD.	04:44
Kr0ntab	oic... I personally enjoy Banshee	04:44
MindVirus	I'm on appendix D in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578&page=11 and I'm getting errors starting pulseaudio. Please help.	04:45
M4d3L	AK_Dave: I cant remove it from the camera	04:45
AK_Dave	M4d3L: Whats an internal SDD? The camera, or the computer?	04:45
MindVirus	E: alsa-util.c: Failed to set hardware parameters on plug:equalized: Invalid argument	04:45
Kr0ntab	t0cableguy: have you tried banshee before? http:/banshee-project.org	04:45
M4d3L	I have a JVC Everio SDD video camera	04:45
AK_Dave	M4d3L: Bad camera if you can't remove the memory. The 90's called and they want their camera back.	04:45
Kr0ntab	it's in the repo	04:45
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MindVirus	Any suggestions?	04:45
Reformer81	I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?	04:46
pc	M4d3L: when you plug it in, it doesn't do anything automatically? are you trying to mount manually?	04:46
t0cableguy	kr0ntab no, i'm new to the whole ubuntu and linux world.. just starting to figure out the apps i like..	04:46
Kr0ntab	Oh okay.. yeah you'll like Banshee.. check out their website.	04:46
t0cableguy	kr0ntab, most i already used in vista	04:46
M4d3L	pc: it doesnt do anything automatic when I plug it. I only see some log	04:47
t0cableguy	kr0ntab, its in the synaptics add/remove	04:47
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Kr0ntab	yup...	04:48
t0cableguy	so i'll have in in a sec	04:48
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M4d3L	any tool exist to repair disk error?	04:48
n8tuser	fsck ?	04:48
M4d3L	because on the camera I can see what I have record	04:48
scunizi	!fsck \| M4d3L	04:48
ubottu	M4d3L: fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot	04:48
M4d3L	so data is readable	04:49
pc	M4d3L: not sure...I wonder if it has a weird format	04:49
space_cadet	t0cableguy, hmm	04:49
space_cadet	t0cableguy, banshee doesn't play mp3's either	04:49
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PerryArmstrong	can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them	04:49
lawlzfries	i wish to upgrade from debian testing/unstable to intrepid. I currently have hoary packages installed, but i cannot run do-release-upgrade, because testing/unstable is not in the meta-release file. I was wondering if i could change my dist to hoary.	04:49
t0cableguy	space_cadet, ??	04:49
scunizi	space_cadet: it should.. with the restricted extras	04:50
space_cadet	nevermind	04:50
AussieGuy	ive just cloned my ubuntu install and all other partitions to a new hard drive with gparted. If I want to boot from that hard drive, do I just load boot cdrom, chroot in and run grub?	04:50
space_cadet	it just took a time	04:50
PerryArmstrong	can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them	04:50
space_cadet	scunizi, t0cableguy it just took a min	04:50
matsuo	Hey, is the new version due out in 10 minutes?	04:50
space_cadet	scunizi, t0cableguy i was still reading my library	04:50
t0cableguy	space_cadet, mk.. i''ve got all the time in the world.. haha	04:50
space_cadet	works fine	04:50
PerryArmstrong	can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my displays and configure them	04:51
scunizi	AussieGuy: you should be able to just boot to it without using a cdrom or anything	04:51
t0cableguy	will 9.04 update to the official release automatically?	04:51
scunizi	AussieGuy: provided you also imaged the boot sector along with everything else	04:51
scunizi	t0cableguy: no	04:51
AussieGuy	scunizi: nope just cloned the parititions	04:51
scunizi	t0cableguy: yes.. if you have RC now	04:51
AussieGuy	thinking of a way to change the boot sector of that hard drive and make it sda instead of sdb	04:51
Reformer81	I'm trying to install the latest beta of Amarok (2.1), but I can't find anything with Google... how do I do this?	04:52
t0cableguy	scunizi, yea i just downloaded it in the past couple days	04:52
krammer_	how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin	04:52
scunizi	AussieGuy: if you cloned the partition containing the boot record then you should be ok as long as you put the partitions back on the new drive in the same order they were in	04:52
matsuo	How much longer till 9.04 is officially released?	04:52
scunizi	t0cableguy: you're fine	04:52
PerryArmstrong	can anyone tell me whats the command to get xorg detect my video displays and configure them	04:52
space_cadet	matsuo, we don't know	04:52
t0cableguy	scunizi, thanks	04:52
AussieGuy	well not quite....one small 5gb partition was missing	04:52
outbackwifi	!jaaunty\| matsuo	04:52
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about jaaunty	04:52
outbackwifi	!jaunty\| matsuo	04:52
ubottu	matsuo: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	04:52
space_cadet	matsuo, give it a couple of hours	04:52
AussieGuy	and the swap is larger and in a different place	04:52
n8tuser	PerryArmstrong -> sudo ddcprobe	04:53
AussieGuy	but the main windows and main linux paritions were cloned	04:53
AussieGuy	same place as before	04:53
matsuo	space_cadet: Ok, thanks	04:53
birdman99501	w	04:53
scunizi	AussieGuy: give it a try.. if no joy then you'll have to reinstall grub	04:53
AussieGuy	and id chroot in to do that?	04:53
outbackwifi	AussieGuy: just boot from liveCD and edit /etc/fstab, /boot/grub/menu.lst reflect the new environment and then reboot with HDD	04:53
AussieGuy	from a boot cd	04:53
birdman99501	exit	04:53
outbackwifi	AussieGuy: oops mount the harddisk	04:53
scunizi	!grub \| AussieGuy	04:53
ubottu	AussieGuy: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	04:53
PerryArmstrong	n8tuser; there was some command that used to set the screen resolution automatically.. any idea about that	04:54
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: What about 'sudo update-grub'?	04:54
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: never done that so cant comment	04:54
n8tuser	PerryArmstrong -> dont know of any that automatically adjust rez	04:54
krammer_	how can i install this jre-6u13-linux-i586-rpm.bin	04:54
Flynsarmy	what's the difference between sudo aptitude and sudo apt-get? is there any?	04:55
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: infact the Xserver itself is pretty intuitive and automatically adjusts resolution	04:55
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: I'd try to fix an existing grub before reinstalling it. Not sure what his boot problem is, but its an easy command.	04:55
scunizi	krammer_: where'd you get that? looks like an rpm not a .deb.. jre etc is in synaptic	04:55
outbackwifi	Flynsarmy: aptitude is a curses based frontend to apt-get	04:55
PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; no itsn't coming up with that...	04:55
krammer_	scunizi, sun website	04:55
t0cableguy	in banshee can i used more than one folder for my collection.. right now i'm kinda a mess with my music..	04:55
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: i havent said anything about reinstalling grub	04:55
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: He cloned over his drives, so if its Ubuntu then his grub uses UUID and those codes would be borked.	04:55
scunizi	krammer_: look in system/admin/synaptic and search for jre.. install from there	04:56
krammer_	scunizi, thanks	04:56
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outbackwifi	AK_Dave: just use blkid to get the UUID of the new drives after he boots from live cd	04:56
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PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; here's my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115684 and right now i have upgraded to jaunty	04:56
scunizi	krammer_: np.. synaptic should be the first choice always.. after that.. compiling from source or perhaps locating a .deb from a reputable source	04:56
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: sorry havent got a clue about Jaunty	04:57
AK_Dave	AussieGuy: Do you have a linux console on this machine now?	04:57
lstarnes	.24	04:57
AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: You need to ask Jaunty questions on #ubuntu+1	04:57
AussieGuy	yep running on the normal ubuntu but not the cloned one	04:58
PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; it isn't about jaunty..the problem is with screen resolution that started from intrepid	04:58
AussieGuy	wanting to change to the cloned one	04:58
PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; and still existing in jaunty also	04:58
AK_Dave	AussieGuy: Then it would be easy to do 'blkid' and compare those UUID codes with the ones in fstab and menu.lst	04:58
pc	PerryArmstrong: what does xrandr -q report?	04:58
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: in Interpid its ok to leave your xorg.conf empty	04:58
PerryArmstrong	pc, outbackwifi; can you check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/156304/	05:00
deemo	hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with bth compiz and metacity. Any pointers?	05:00
alphaaquilae	how to proceede to move from 8.10 to 9.04 ?	05:00
coder_	When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get a error/warning pulseaudio configured for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?	05:01
AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: Thats a nice log of a mistyped command. The command you wanted was 'dkpg-reconfigure' not 'dpkg --reconfigure'	05:01
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PerryArmstrong	alphaaquilae; check this http://ossarchives.blogspot.com	05:01
AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: You also could have tried 'man dpkg' or even, as suggested in the screencap, 'dpkg --help'	05:01
Junior	oi	05:02
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: its actually sudo dpkg-reconfigure	05:02
coder_	When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get a error/warning pulseaudio configured for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?	05:02
Junior	Ola	05:02
alphaaquilae	can you give a link for 9.04 ?	05:02
* AK_Dave points all Jaunty questions to #ubuntu+1		05:02
^Phantom^	hey	05:02
outbackwifi	!es\| Junior	05:02
^Phantom^	in gimp	05:03
ubottu	Junior: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	05:03
bwm	hi, I'm having an issue with my wireless not connecting on an Inspiron 1525 after u/g to 8.04 Some preliminaries here http://pastebin.com/m38edd7dd	05:03
^Phantom^	is there any way to copy pixels	05:03
^Phantom^	?	05:03
PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; thanks..i'll just restart and it if it has helped	05:03
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: np	05:03
AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: Just restart X. Faster. No reboot!	05:03
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coder_	When i start up ubuntu9.04, i get a error/warning pulseaudio configured for pre-user sessions, and my system has no sound,Could you help me?	05:03
AK_Dave	coder_: #ubuntu+1	05:04
outbackwifi	jaunty\| coder_	05:04
outbackwifi	!jaunty\| coder_	05:04
ubottu	coder_: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:04
mib_3qs0gm	hi	05:04
PerryArmstrong	AK_Dave; how to restart X	05:04
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mib_3qs0gm	i need help w/ something... my system freaked on me, required a manual fsck	05:04
mib_3qs0gm	now i'm worried about getting it back to normal, any help?	05:04
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AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: With Intrepid: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace	05:05
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: in your case, just start x not restart :)	05:05
pc	^Phantom^: copy what pixels?	05:05
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outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: im assuming you dont have X running	05:05
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: Yeah, thats safer.	05:05
alphaaquilae	where is source.list in the hd ?	05:05
AK_Dave	alphaaquilae: you mean sources.list ??	05:05
outbackwifi	alphaaquilae: /etc/apt/	05:05
* AK_Dave doesn't have a source.list but has a /etc/apt/sources.list		05:06
alphaaquilae	thx outbackwifi	05:06
PerryArmstrong	outbackwifi; i dont know anything about that	05:06
outbackwifi	PerryArmstrong: then you neednt worry	05:06
AK_Dave	PerryArmstrong: X is the GUI. Do you have a GUI or just a big text console?	05:06
bwm	am I in the right channel for wifi help?	05:06
PerryArmstrong	AK_Dave; i have gui	05:06
outbackwifi	bwm: not unless its inside ubuntu	05:07
bwm	hmmm.... I'm thinking it is	05:07
bwm	it worked before in 7.X	05:07
outbackwifi	bwm: it still works	05:08
AK_Dave	bwm: Your paste doesn't give any information about your wifi hardware or installed kernel modules. Do 'lspci -vvnn'	05:08
ubuntu9	when is the new links to 9.04 going to show on the east coast	05:08
bwm	will do	05:08
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koolkartik	Is Ubuntu 9.0.4 released?	05:09
outbackwifi	!jaunty\| coder_	05:09
ubottu	coder_: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:09
ubuntu9	needs to be!!!	05:09
deemo	hey guys! i just updated to jaunty, but my top menu bar for every maximized app is gone! It does this with both compiz and metacity. Any pointers?	05:09
outbackwifi	!jaunty\| deemo	05:09
ubottu	deemo: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:09
outbackwifi	sowe coder_	05:09
AK_Dave	deemo: #ubuntu+1	05:09
dadoy	hi	05:09
deemo	AK_Dave: gotcha, thanks	05:09
bwm	AK_Dave see http://pastebin.com/m54e7dbec	05:09
brand0con	how do i recover my nick password on freenode?	05:10
anooptp	hai everybody	05:10
Pici	brand0con: Join #freenode and ask	05:10
outbackwifi	!hi\| anooptp	05:10
ubottu	anooptp: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	05:10
anooptp	i am new in ubuntu	05:10
anooptp	i have a sound problem	05:11
outbackwifi	!enter\| anooptp	05:11
ubottu	anooptp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	05:11
anooptp	i had no sound for last 3 day	05:11
AK_Dave	bwm: You have an Intel 3945ABG. It has good linux support. It should have loaded automatically.	05:11
anooptp	no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected	05:12
bwm	hmmm....	05:12
celthunder	anooptp, do you have it muted (check alsamixer)	05:12
anooptp	no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected	05:12
outbackwifi	bwm: it is loaded hence the output of iwconfig; you just need to ensure you have the encryptions matched etc etc	05:12
bwm	AK_Dave - I went to the Dell support website - they mentioned that the wifi LED needed to be patched - I did that	05:12
anooptp	wen i use live cd there is sound	05:12
bwm	AK_Dave: but the LED light still does not come on	05:13
bwm	outbackwifi: can you elaborate?	05:13
anooptp	celthunderpls help me	05:13
bwm	outbackwifi: ah, you mean the WEP & all that	05:13
AK_Dave	bwm: Your paste didn't include what modules you're using. lspci -vvnn should be more verbose than that.	05:14
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pc	anooptp: what did you change 3 days ago? :-)	05:14
koolkartik	:_	05:14
koolkartik	:)	05:14
anooptp	nothing	05:14
outbackwifi	bwm: your wireless card is working. in fact if you run sudo iwlist eth1 scanning, it should show you the scan results. you just need to configure the wireless settings in your network manager	05:14
zerothis	I vaguely recall from my redhat 5.0 days, finding an insane option to 'do not automount' a partition. (insane cuz I could barely manage to manually mount anything, why disable the possibility). Does xubuntu have a similar option, I'd rather not have an ntfs partition mounted without a good reason first	05:14
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outbackwifi	zerothis: comment it out in your /etc/fstab	05:15
AK_Dave	bwm: I think your kernel module is 'iwlwifi' and should be listed in lsmod	05:15
bwm	outbackwifi: got iwlist: unknown command `eth1' (check 'iwlist --help').	05:15
anooptp	any help	05:15
thebackwash	The evening hangs beneath the moon	05:16
thebackwash	A silver thread on darkened dune	05:16
thebackwash	With closing eyes and resting head	05:16
thebackwash	I know that sleep is coming soon	05:16
thebackwash	Upon my pillow, safe in bed	05:16
FloodBot2	thebackwash: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	05:16
thebackwash	A thousand pictures fill my head	05:16
outbackwifi	bwm: that command works for me (ubuntu 8.10)	05:16
outbackwifi	bwm: what exactly did you type?	05:17
AK_Dave	bwm: Oh, wait. You have the ethernet cable plugged in, right?	05:17
zerothis	outbackwifi: and it will not ever come back, unless I uncomment it?	05:17
bwm	confirmed it's in lsmod	05:17
outbackwifi	zerothis: yes	05:17
bwm	AK_Dave: yep, otherwise I would not be IRC	05:17
Lartza_	Do usb wlan adapters and repeaters break often?	05:18
AK_Dave	bwm: And thats why your wireless isn't connecting to your router.	05:18
bwm	AK_Dave: ts from the machine, maybe should have mentioned that	05:18
Lartza_	OR are they long term solution?	05:18
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: i dont think thats correct at all; these two arent related	05:18
zerothis	outbackwifi: cool, thanks	05:18
will__	yo	05:18
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: I've never had Network Manager allow me to have a wifi connection on my laptops if I have a wired ethernet connection.	05:19
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: funny, i have it all the time	05:19
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: though you have to have the two on separate networks	05:19
jh_ubuntu	i have some problemd	05:19
ags	hi	05:20
jh_ubuntu	about klm	05:20
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: If both are auto and connecting to the same router... no workie.	05:20
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: how else would you be able to run hostapd etc?	05:20
paul68	AK_Dave: I work with wifi and it works like a charm on my laptop	05:20
outbackwifi	AK_Dave: what wont work is the routing but association with router, no problem	05:20
outbackwifi	bwm: in any case, when you click on network manager do you see a list of access points?	05:21
syntax\	outbackwifi: i was able to make it work	05:21
syntax\	wee	05:21
outbackwifi	syntax\: the printer?	05:21
Z3ro3X	What time zone is 9.04 being released on?	05:21
outbackwifi	syntax\: what did you do?	05:21
syntax\	yes	05:21
syntax\	did an update	05:21
syntax\	then downloaded a stand alone driver	05:22
AK_Dave	outbackwifi: haven't tried it since hardy. used to be I'd have a wireless connection, plug the cable in, and wireless would drop and I'd pick back up with a wired connection with a short delay.	05:22
bwm	outbackwifi: I see the Wired Network, Connect to 802.1X protected... , and Manual config	05:22
Anacranom	tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found. Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?	05:22
outbackwifi	bwm: when you right-click is 'Enable Wireless' checked?	05:22
Lartza_	i can't find wireless repeaters anywhere on net and i don't even know what is it in my language :S	05:23
coder_	how can i enter the room ubuntu+1	05:23
zerothis	outbackwifi: so what if its not in /etc/fstab/?	05:23
AK_Dave	coder_: /join #ubuntu+1	05:23
outbackwifi	coder_: just type /join #ubuntu+1	05:23
bwm	outbackwifi: it has Enable Networking checked - only option	05:23
coder_	thanks	05:23
outbackwifi	bwm: huh? no wireless at all? then back to square one. Your wireless card is not enabled... :)	05:24
celthunder	lalrtza you can get a repeater by buying one of those cheap linksys wrt54gs they call a "router" and flash it with dd-wrt and then itll have reapeater mode (not e it also supposedly has vlans and other stuff though how you can have a vlan in a router which would kind of defeat the purpose of a router (broadcast domains..) and make it more of a switch (collision domain divider) not sure...though the repeater thing works cause im using one right now for	05:24
celthunder	that	05:24
racecar56	bye	05:24
zhanx	after much effort my optical output is working on my razor card	05:24
bwm	outbackwifi: yeah, I've been going through various forums on the web, and trying things, but no cigar, hence my presence ;)	05:24
space_cadet	arrgh	05:25
paul68	outbackwifi: could it be that his wifi driver is in the restricted hardware driver list?	05:25
AK_Dave	bwm: But iwlwifi should have been loaded and enabled from the start. Should have been you just L-click the nm-applet icon, click your network name, and connect.	05:25
jtth	so i have a question: where the hell is 9.04	05:25
philsf	is there a way to make network-manager set up network connections before login? including protected wifi ones?	05:25
AK_Dave	jtth: /join #ubuntu+1	05:26
tritium	jtth: easy there, please	05:26
paul68	!jaunty	05:26
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:26
overshard	While using my USB Audia DAC/AMP why am i getting this error when using alsa "audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback." and it works fine on oss o.O	05:26
AK_Dave	philsf: That would not be secure.	05:26
Lux215	Hi, I am using Ubuntu 8.10, sort of new to it, and am using AWN, so I have no need for the top gnome panel, how do I delete it completely?	05:26
sara_	I have a problem in gnome where I changed a resoultion setting and my display is now garbled , same on reboot , went to /etc/X11 and looked at xorg.conf but there was to of them , because i installed ati fglrx one was called that and one xorg.failsafe (none called backup)	05:26
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bwm	this would be a lot easier if I knew what I was doing :D	05:26
dadoy	exit	05:26
pc	Lux215: right click -> Delete Panel ?	05:26
celthunder	lux215 right click on it and go to delete	05:26
sara_	and now i trie dthe command cp xorg.failfe over the xorg.fglrx and it took but did not correct	05:27
celthunder	pc beat me to it lol	05:27
pc	celthunder: great minds...	05:27
philsf	AK_Dave, I disagree. Do you know how can I do it?	05:27
Lux215	Works for all of the panels except the very last one...	05:27
AK_Dave	sara_: Is it possible that fglrx doesn't properly support your hardware?	05:27
Lux215	I don't want to hide it, I want a cleaner look.	05:27
sara_	now i have 2 of the same can I reinstall xorg.conf ? to get it back to the way I had it before fglrx attempt ?	05:27
celthunder	lux215 go into the disettings menu under applications and go to panel	05:28
AK_Dave	sara_: You could 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reverse it.	05:28
celthunder	Lux215, you can resize,move, and change your panels look from there	05:28
paul68	where can you find the mails stored in thunderbird?	05:28
paul68	on the harddrive	05:28
sara_	AK_Dave thanks a million	05:28
josh977	God, I hate ATI	05:28
celthunder	josh977, why?	05:28
sara_	AK_Dave I had to come to kde to type eher	05:28
sara_	here	05:29
Lux215	celthunder where do I find the disettings menu	05:29
Lux215	i'm sort of new to this	05:29
celthunder	Lux215, under applications...	05:29
sara_	can I do it here within KDE , dumb question I know	05:29
josh977	Work issued laptop with ATI. Everything at my work has ATI. Always have problems with it on Linux.	05:29
celthunder	sara yes you can open a terminal	05:29
sara_	thx	05:29
outbackwifi	paul68: .thunderbird/default.qre/Mail/ where default.qre is the profile folder (yours could be different)	05:29
celthunder	josh977, my stuff works fine...though i have an nvidia chipset motherboard ati graphics card....	05:29
Lux215	Celthunder... I don't have an applications button	05:29
Lartza_	I am wondering is lan that bad to penetrate eg. walls?	05:30
paul68	outbackwifi: thanks	05:30
sara_	" Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "	05:30
celthunder	Lartza_, what?	05:30
AK_Dave	brb, 2yo peed on me	05:30
ipodman715	lol	05:30
ubuntunoobneedin	my package manage says i have thunderbird installed but i cannot find it where would it be	05:30
Lartza_	I have an apartment about...10 meters long and wlan can't reach from side to side	05:30
celthunder	Lux215, look around in your system menu then	05:30
outbackwifi	ubuntunoobneedin: Applications->Internet	05:30
Lartza_	And I just found out its cheapest to move my router to middle of apartment and buy 3 wlan adapters	05:31
paul68	AK_Dave: you should use diapers for this matter ;-)	05:31
celthunder	Lartza_, your nic is broken or your wireless router is	05:31
sara_	AK_Dave " Use kernel framebuffer device interface? "	05:31
outbackwifi	Lartza_: that really sucks	05:31
AK_Dave	paul68: 2yo, training	05:31
outbackwifi	sara_: hes gone to clean up	05:31
sara_	AK_Dave is the question it asks	05:31
bwm	outbackwifi: ok, so punt?	05:31
AK_Dave	sara_: sure	05:31
paul68	AK_Dave: training to be clean I get it same problem here hehehe	05:31
Lux215	Celthunder no disettings	05:31
celthunder	Lux215, look in system/administration then if you are in gnome itsp robably under that	05:32
Lartza_	Well was this when I had my ZyXel... now I have Wippies box which is basically modified Bewan	05:32
mrjohns	Is 9.04 released ? 23 is the date, but I don't see anything on the page.	05:32
AK_Dave	Lartza_: install dd-wrt on wifi router, boost the output to max legal.	05:32
pragad7	hello drivers problem(i guess) cannot enabel desktop effects. no dricvers are to be found in system>administration>hardware drivers	05:32
sara_	okay so now its done and so gnome should be back to baseline if i reboot ?	05:32
meshuggah_	in how many hours, 9.04 will be stable?	05:32
Lartza_	AK_Dave: It isn't made for my box sadly :(	05:32
paul68	!jaunty	05:33
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:33
zhanx	like meshuggah_ ubuntu+1	05:33
Lux215	Celthunder when i go into gconf-editor i have found where the panel is, it won't let me delete it	05:33
AK_Dave	Lartza_: naughty router	05:33
Lartza_	I've looked into that dd-wrt thing	05:33
sara_	thanks a million IRC gods and goddesses !!!	05:33
Lartza_	And also I coudln't change after next fall	05:33
AK_Dave	sara_: It works now, right?	05:33
celthunder	Lartza_, use it...though some of the functions it puts on i doubt work.	05:33
celthunder	Lux215, why not?	05:33
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pragad7	hello anyone anything about not being able to enable desktop effeects	05:34
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pragad7	help please	05:34
Lux215	celthunder not sure... press delete, nothing, right click, no option to delete.	05:34
Lartza_	but should router get 10 meter and through 4-6 walls?	05:34
paul68	!ask \|pragad7	05:34
ubottu	pragad7: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:34
AK_Dave	Lartza_: Mine does	05:34
Tetracomm	I'm writing an article about old computers on my website, and about how Ubuntu can be beneficial to poor people that can't afford to upgrade their old computers.	05:34
Lartza_	Hmm...	05:34
Tetracomm	:)	05:34
celthunder	Lartza_, yes im going through 3 floors and im doing just fine	05:34
KSho	a que horas sale el ubuntu nuevo??	05:34
Lartza_	then the usb adapters could have been bad too	05:35
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AK_Dave	Lartza_: You could mod the antennae.	05:35
Lartza_	some a-link first without and then with antennas didnt work	05:35
bwm	hey, how come there's no releases planned beyond 9.04?	05:35
Lartza_	what about this? usb or pci?	05:35
AK_Dave	bwm: They are planned.	05:35
Lux215	i've been on multiple forums looking for an answer... looks like this one hasn't been solved yet...	05:36
paul68	!es \| KSHo	05:36
ubottu	KSHo: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	05:36
bwm	AK_Dave: cool!	05:36
testbox_jaunty	is jaunty out yet anyone?	05:36
paul68	!jaunty	05:36
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:36
Xiaopi[work]	it's today already?	05:36
AK_Dave	bwm: 9.10 is planned for Oct of this year. Karmic Koala ??	05:37
Xiaopi[work]	omg i didn't feel theses 6months at all ~~	05:37
pragad7	any drivers compatibility expert here	05:38
pragad7	intel 945g ???	05:38
joserodrigo	hello... please some help with wireless problem on 9.04	05:38
pragad7	u got 9.04 how	05:39
paul68	joserodrigo: go to #ubuntu+1	05:39
joserodrigo	the beta.. but updated every day	05:39
* outbackwifi gotta go		05:39
legolasw	Hi	05:39
cweagans	any idea what time the new Ubuntu release is coming out tomorrow? (and in what time zone?)	05:39
legolasw	Anyone know when will 9.04 release? I mean how much more hours?	05:39
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pragad7	!jaunty ubottu	05:40
paul68	!jaunty \|cweagans	05:40
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about jaunty ubottu	05:40
ubottu	cweagans: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:40
usser	cweagans, even if it comes out tomorrow, you wont be able to upgrade, all server will be on their knees :)	05:40
celthunder	cweagans, its the 23rd so its out already	05:41
cweagans	usser: perhaps bit torrent would be a better alternative?	05:41
laburd	Hi ubuntu	05:41
laburd	9.04 rules	05:41
cweagans	celthunder: it's the 23 for you.....still 22 for me	05:41
usser	cweagans, apt-p2p	05:41
bijit	one quick question... the meneu bar is missing in some of thr apps.. like synaptic and pidginn	05:41
cweagans	usser: don't have a working installation right now :(	05:41
user5	nerr	05:41
user5	nero	05:41
laburd	Im running 9.04 right now	05:42
usser	cweagans, no worries then, torrents are damn fast, i cant use it though, torrent is throttled here :)	05:42
user5	internet	05:42
BladeNBrocade	apt-p2p?	05:42
laburd	Will I have to reinstall when the Final version comes out	05:42
Tetracomm	Has anyone here already written about the benefits of using Ubuntu on a website?	05:42
BladeNBrocade	really?	05:42
legolasw	laburd, where you get 9.04? It is not released yet.	05:42
paul68	laburd: release candidate or final version?	05:42
cweagans	Tetracomm: you mean as a webserver? or the benefits of using Ubuntu as an OS?	05:42
bijit	rc	05:42
usser	BladeNBrocade, yep	05:42
lstarnes	legolasw: there are release candidates out	05:42
BladeNBrocade	usser: awesome,, would need to check that...	05:43
Tetracomm	As an OS, cweagans.	05:43
legolasw	RCs not the FCS	05:43
lstarnes	legolasw: however, it is probably best to wait for the final release	05:43
user5	nro 7	05:43
user5	nero 7	05:43
cweagans	Tetracomm: I'm sure it's been done, if not for Ubuntu, then for Linux in general	05:43
user5	buy	05:43
BladeNBrocade	usser: you know.. they say torrents are responsible for atLEAST 30% of internet traffic,,	05:43
space_cadet	bull	05:43
space_cadet	it's more around 50-60	05:44
usser	BladeNBrocade, nah, its porn... and not 30, 90%	05:44
laburd	It is release candidate	05:44
BladeNBrocade	i said atLEAST	05:44
laburd	If you download release candidate	05:44
AK_Dave	space_cadet: 50-60% is what I'd believe	05:44
laburd	it will update to 9.04 final automatically	05:44
space_cadet	Was scheduled for Apr, 25, 00:30 (Samoa time)	05:44
space_cadet	keeps getting delayed an hour	05:44
Tetracomm	I know, but I want to find someone with that who I can exchange links with.	05:44
wanglun	hello	05:44
BladeNBrocade	usser: i mean protocol wise not like demographs	05:44
space_cadet	now it's up to 2:00 am	05:44
space_cadet	the 25th	05:45
Anacranom	tried to add a network printer shared on a windows box- received message- "There were no print shares found. Please check that the Samba service is marked as trusted in your firewall configuration. To do this, select System->Administration->Firewall from the main menu." But there is no "Firewall" there, and i edited the menu and there's no option to add it, anyone know where this is?	05:45
wanglun	i am a new one	05:45
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BladeNBrocade	it can very well be 30 - 50 % of that torrent traffic is for downloading pron =)	05:45
celthunder	Anacranom, iptables -a should i believe list your firewall rules just look at that	05:45
wanglun	how about all of you ?	05:45
lstarnes	Anacranom: in that case it might not need to be marked as tristed	05:45
BladeNBrocade	no	05:45
BladeNBrocade	its iptables -L	05:45
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, thanks :) figured someone would correct me if i got it wrong	05:46
lstarnes	Anacranom: if that fails, sudo iptables -L	05:46
wanglun	ok i need develop oj , so i want to use QT	05:46
BladeNBrocade	no probem -a is to append a rule .. so that will fail	05:46
Anacranom	lstarnes, the error says where to change it, but it's not there?	05:46
BladeNBrocade	without the rest of the arguments ofcourse =)	05:46
David_	hello	05:46
David_	when is 9.04 coming out?	05:47
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, then he will need iptables -a for the next part :) turns out im 1/4 useful :)	05:47
lstarnes	Anacranom: it might be a different issue, like samba or the windows box being misconfigured	05:47
paul68	!jaunty	05:47
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:47
BladeNBrocade	cool beans	05:47
lstarnes	David_: sometime within the next 24 hours	05:47
David_	lstarnes, not at midnight of a specific timezone?	05:47
pragad7	i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex	05:47
Anacranom	lstarnes, there is no System>Administration>Firewall...	05:48
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: which do u like better iptables vs ipfw...	05:48
lstarnes	Anacranom: then ignore that particular part of the message	05:48
BladeNBrocade	eww GUI firewall management ::earls::	05:48
pragad7	i am unable to turn on the desktop effects in ubuntu intrepid ibex.plese help	05:48
Shaan7	pragad7: which graphics card you have ?	05:48
BladeNBrocade	pragad7: is ur video card capable?	05:48
Anacranom	lstarnes, um... so its a bug?	05:49
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, never used ipfw...cant compare them	05:49
wanglun	who know QT ? and please give me some introduce thank you	05:49
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pragad7	shaan7 it is intel945g	05:49
=== jblackhall_ is now known as jblackhall
Shaan7	wanglun: please visit #qt or #kde	05:49
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: ah cool,, i kinda like ipfw better but i dont say that @ work.. might get mobbed	05:49
ubuntu9	its not out yet	05:49
lstarnes	Anacranom: the message may have been written for a different distro or it may assume that a graphical firewall manager is installed	05:50
pragad7	bladenbrocade graphics card is intel945g	05:50
Anacranom	lstarnes, if its in the image but is incorrect...	05:50
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, hang on let me google it and look at it maybe ill give it a chance...the only people iw ork with think im nuts cause i dont use windows	05:50
BladeNBrocade	pragad7: i saw	05:50
lstarnes	Anacranom: it's not necessarily a bug	05:50
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, so im not likely to get mobbed more than i already am	05:50
Shaan7	pragad7: try installing Compiz Config Settings Manager (ccsm) from synaptic and see if you can activate desktop effects using that ...	05:50
SunnyDP	hey guys, had 9.04 een released ?	05:50
lstarnes	SunnyDP: not yet	05:50
legolasw	Is it possible to clone an installed ubuntu from one machine to another?	05:51
legolasw	for example from my desktop to my laptop?	05:51
AK_Dave	legolasw: yes	05:51
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SunnyDP	lstarnes: ok thanks brother, do you know what time GMT ?	05:51
legolasw	Can it reconfigure itself with new hardware?	05:51
AK_Dave	legolasw: But you don't always want to. Especially if the hardware is different.	05:51
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: oh its cool,, i just like the syntax alot,, its the base firewall on FreeBSD,, which i was forced to learn,, my job is all RHEL/AIX/HP-UX	05:51
lstarnes	SunnyDP: I don't think anyone does	05:51
celthunder	legolasw, yes	05:51
wanglun	does anybody know oj ?	05:51
SunnyDP	lstarnes: LOL :D	05:51
BladeNBrocade	wanglun: simpson?	05:52
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ah. Where do you work	05:52
SunnyDP	BladeNBrocade: RHEL/AIX/HP-UX --> Lucky you :D	05:52
grendal_prime	is gutsy nolonger support of something?	05:52
legolasw	is there some tutorial for clonning? how to do it fast and easy...?	05:53
lstarnes	grendal_prime: I think its support ended this month	05:53
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: i work for a managed service provider called IPsoft	05:53
wanglun	no	05:53
jhass840	Okay, so I have the jaunty beta installed on my system already. If I run the update manager, does that mean I will be updated to the release candidate?	05:53
grendal_prime	sorrry that made no sence...is gutsy no longer supported...	05:53
grendal_prime	perfect.	05:53
grendal_prime	just what i needed right now	05:53
BladeNBrocade	SunnyDP: oh u think,, i dread clients using HP-UX... no bash	05:53
wanglun	online judge	05:53
wanglun	acm online judge this summer i should develop it	05:54
SunnyDP	BladeNBrocade: hehe :D sh, csh and ksh only?	05:54
BladeNBrocade	SunnyDP: yea and sh	05:54
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, im looking at your website...big company huh?	05:54
lstarnes	grendal_prime: you should still be able to upgrade it to 8.04 using the old-releases.ubuntu.com repos	05:54
BladeNBrocade	oh u put that	05:54
BladeNBrocade	lol	05:54
Anacranom	lstarnes, ok, my desktop has the same network printer , has no issues,	05:54
grendal_prime	ya but i have a laptop that will not work with 804	05:54
Flannel	jhass840: Currently, yes.	05:54
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: u would think... its appr 500 - 700 not that big..	05:54
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paul68	!clone \|legolasw	05:54
ubottu	legolasw: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate	05:54
grendal_prime	and this one will..but not very well it came with 710 preinstalled on it.	05:55
grendal_prime	i just didnt want to have to work out any hardware kinks this month.	05:55
=== BillGatesSucks is now known as TheEndofMicroSft
tzanger	good evening; I'm running 8.10 and I'm just wondering how I can shut down X and move toward a text-only login (temporarily, so I can update a video driver) -- I can reboot in single mode but that's a little more than I think I need	05:55
jhass840	Flannel: can I update to the full release like that or do I need to install that manually?	05:55
tzanger	there isn't an option to drop to a text mode in the options menu (sessions) at all	05:56
xMopx	When does 9.04 come out today?	05:56
grendal_prime	tzanger: man ...ok ctrl alt f2	05:56
BladeNBrocade	yep logging terminal...	05:56
grendal_prime	to get back to x its ctrl alt f7	05:56
rrowell	installing 8.10, I must have typed the password in wrong twice in a row because after the boot I can't login	05:56
BladeNBrocade	maybe u typed password in caps?	05:57
rrowell	i followed the instructions here : http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-reset-forgotten-root-password/	05:57
jhass840	xMopx: yeah, but probably not until the work day begins. I figure cannonical wants to make sure they're in the office in case something goes wrong	05:57
yo	df	05:57
grendal_prime	rrowell: your not trying to ...ya try the caps also i hope your not using a root user..	05:57
rrowell	the problem is the recovery menu is buggy	05:57
grendal_prime	cause it has NO password.	05:57
xMopx	jhass840: ah that makes sense, thanks.	05:57
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, really...says you guys do vmware...ive got a wierd issue with it care to help for a second? (workstation vmware btw..i get it free from classes (im a networking student atm though im doing an internship this summer)	05:57
grendal_prime	and not a blank password..but NO password	05:57
Geoffrey2	where are they located out of, anyway?	05:57
tzanger	grendal_prime: sure, I know how to do that	05:57
tzanger	I can get a CLI, but X is still running	05:57
tzanger	I tried /etc/init.d/gdm stop	05:58
grendal_prime	kill x	05:58
tzanger	but X is still there as is gdm-greeter	05:58
syntac	hi, i just removed fusion-icon/compiz and now i can no longer ctrl+alt+{left,right} to move my virtual desktop. any idea? (i don't want compiz anymore, just normal gnome)	05:58
rrowell	so how do I get to a root shell without the stupid buggy recovery menu?	05:58
tzanger	grendal_prime: it will start back up	05:58
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: yep we do VMware.. i more so manage ESX but.. i just graduated too =) we used vmware workstation their so i may be able to assist	05:58
Flannel	rrowell: that's.... a rather poor way to do it.	05:58
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syntac	rrowell: open a normal one and run `sudo su -`	05:58
grendal_prime	just run your upgrade..	05:58
Flannel	rrowell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword That's a much easier and better way to reset a lost password.	05:58
grendal_prime	restart x	05:58
grendal_prime	ctrl + alt + backspace	05:58
tzanger	grendal_prime: I'm aware of those tricks... this isn't a simple upgrade	05:59
tzanger	it's ATI's idiotic drivers	05:59
grendal_prime	edit your config whatever..	05:59
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: internships are good... very good	05:59
tzanger	I need to uninstall a half dozen debs, install new ones and re-run aticonfig	05:59
Bill_Gates	whens ubuntu 9.04 out	05:59
Flannel	!party \| Bill_Gates	05:59
ubottu	Bill_Gates: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	05:59
tzanger	so this is why I'm trying to shut down X nicely so I can perform these tasks, and then reswtart it	05:59
Anacranom	!jaunty	05:59
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	05:59
grendal_prime	http://theos.in/news/ubuntu-linux-shutdown-the-x-server/	05:59
KingKimi	how do i install xp into virtualbox ?	05:59
grendal_prime	try that	06:00
KingKimi	i have xp sp3	06:00
grendal_prime	tzanger: that was for you	06:00
KingKimi	the virtual box from sun	06:00
kebomix1	so , guys , when ubuntu 9.04 releasae , how can i share same programs and home when i install 9.04 fresh install ?	06:00
HappyHobo	Jackelope is the proper spelling JACKrabbit antELOPE. It's jackelope.	06:00
paul68	!jaunty	06:00
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	06:00
BladeNBrocade	KingKimi: the same u would install it on a computer.. but in the VBOX	06:00
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ok this issue happened randomly when i was on an actual vista install before too using a different motherboard and different connection (cables/etc though same isp/etc) . Ok in 6.5.1 they added directx support for games ok. Well the games do work like i goet 140 fps in cs:s but the internet lags out like it only sends REALLY slow....though incoming seems to be fine. No other applications other than the normal are using the internet	06:00
celthunder	(normal being xchat, and the broadcasts for arp etc)	06:00
Flannel	!cloning \| kebomix1	06:00
ubottu	kebomix1: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate	06:00
AK_Dave	KingKimi: Well, you open your Virtualbox manager and click 'New'	06:00
tzanger	grendal_prime: yes, it's just suggesting /etc/init.d/gdm stop, which is what ai'd tried already. the frist thing I tried in fact. :-) I appreciate the help, but that doesn't seem to do it	06:00
tzanger	I'l try the runlevel next	06:00
grendal_prime	ya	06:01
KingKimi	!virtualbox > KingKimi	06:01
ubottu	KingKimi, please see my private message	06:01
HappyHobo	Can someone see what version of AfterStep Ubuntu has currently?	06:01
grendal_prime	if it doesnt go into runlevel 2 it shouldnt start x	06:01
lstarnes	HappyHobo: aptitude show afterstep	06:01
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, like the speed foru pload would instead of being the full 50kb would be like 5-10 and...yeah it just doesnt use networking properly. Ive tried it with NAt invmware and bridged...different network cards...eetc	06:01
tzanger	yeah init 1/2 do it, but man that's a nasty way around it :-)	06:01
tzanger	grendal_prime: thanks for the help :-)	06:02
HappyHobo	I'm not using lstarnes ubuntu. It's a deciding factor to whether or not I switch to Ubuntu.	06:02
tmadden	this is the ubuntu help channel correct	06:02
Flannel	HappyHobo: packages.ubuntu.com	06:02
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, BUT like uploading torrents, downloading torrents uploading pictures etc all worked fine....at normal speed..just the directx apps would do that	06:02
Flannel	tmadden: correct	06:02
tmadden	can some onr please help me	06:02
HappyHobo	thanks Flannel	06:02
BassKozz	Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]	06:02
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paul68	!ask \|tmadden	06:02
ubottu	tmadden: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:02
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: so if i understand you correctly you have a latency on the VM network which isn't apparently from the VM...ahh only DirectX in a VM??	06:02
Shaan7	tmadden: ask you question directly, no need to "ask to ask"	06:02
lstarnes	HappyHobo: in 8.04, 8.10, or 9.04?	06:03
AK_Dave	KingKimi: Do you have Virtualbox installed? Do you have a CD or iso for the OS you want to install? Open Virtualbox and click 'New'. It practically walks you through it. Is there a particular step that stumps you?	06:03
tmadden	i am running ubuntu 8.10 how do i open a text editor as root	06:03
kebomix1	!automate	06:03
ubottu	Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning	06:03
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, yeah only the directx applications do that...	06:03
AK_Dave	tmadden: sudo nano	06:03
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, which makes me so fustrated cause i cant figure out why directx would affect latency...	06:04
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: if thats correct,, sound / video can be variable in VMs depending on the platform and build of the system performance wise,, also,, just to confirm was the base OS linux? or was it windows on windows?	06:04
Shaan7	tmadden: or if you want to use gedit graphical text editor, use "sudo gedit" in the terminal, though running gui programs as root is not recommended	06:04
HappyHobo	thanks oh shit who was that	06:04
lstarnes	HappyHobo: afterstep 2.2.8-2 is in ubuntu 8.10 and 9.04. 2.2.7-2 is in 8.04	06:04
AK_Dave	Shaan7: Technically, 'gksu gedit' is the preferred syntax.	06:04
lstarnes	HappyHobo: there may be PPA's with newer versions	06:05
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ive tried linux base windows on top and windows on windows (Windows on windows worked SOMEWHAT like it would work for about 5-10 minutes and then do the same thing the linux ones do)	06:05
Shaan7	AK_Dave: oops, yeah, thanks :)	06:05
ProgramError1	any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using	06:05
* Shaan7 was using kde for a long time it seems :P		06:05
BladeNBrocade	strange.. are u running vmtools?	06:05
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, yes	06:05
HappyHobo	I'm glad to see Ubuntu still support AfterStep.	06:05
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, and graphics card ive tried both nvidia 8600GT and ati hd4850 both were the 1gb models (ive got the ati in atm)	06:06
lstarnes	HappyHobo: there hasn't been a reason to remove it from the repos	06:06
AK_Dave	Shaan7: So would that be 'kdsu kate'?	06:06
KingKimi	AK_Dave, no.. i am downloading now ,..... have the xp cd	06:07
hannerpc	hey there is there a good techie online that can give me a hand?	06:07
celthunder	hannerpc, with?	06:07
ProgramError1	any suggestions on running a pxe server without configuring the dhcp-server, i would like to keep my router im using	06:07
Flannel	AK_Dave, Shaan7: kdesu kate	06:07
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: ok.. in this case the discussion could get very verbose.. i would first review the resources being allocated to the VM's.. how much memory/cpu etc.. next u can review the actual guest OS configuration,, possibly update it and checking logs/ process tables etc etc while ur running directX,,	06:07
AK_Dave	hannerpc: depends	06:07
BassKozz	Need help, rsync problems; I keep getting "file has vanished" errors and I can't rsync from samba share to local dir... full error message: rsync warning: some files vanished before they could be transferred (code 24) at main.c(1058) [sender=3.0.3]	06:07
genii	ProgramError1: bootp ... if you know the MAC of the client	06:07
* AK_Dave dumped using kde when 4.0 came out		06:07
Geoffrey2	do I remember correctly that moonlight is included with jaunty?	06:07
He-man	Hello folks:)	06:07
Shaan7	AK_Dave: as Flannel said :)	06:07
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: i believe there is a directX troubleshooting program on windows actually.. possibly running this in the VM would point u in the proper direction.. have u checked that?	06:08
[Snipe]	where is ubuntu 9.04, its April 23rd!	06:08
ProgramError1	genii, it would be changed all the time	06:08
AK_Dave	Shaan7: When I did use kde, I still did 'sudo nano' because I just like nano.	06:08
Flannel	!party \| [Snipe]	06:08
ubottu	[Snipe]: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	06:08
He-man	How do I register my nickname. I tried /msg NickServe Register, and then I typed a name.	06:08
ProgramError1	im trying to do this instead of burning live cd's all the time	06:08
Flannel	He-man: nickserv, not nickserve	06:08
lstarnes	He-man: NickServ, without the E at the end	06:08
ProgramError1	and other installs that are commonly used	06:08
He-man	Flannel: Ah, thanks:)	06:08
He-man	Istarnes: Thanks:)	06:09
=== Blizzerand is now known as Blizzerand__
Shaan7	AK_Dave: yeah, just told him because he might be looking a way to use gedit, and by the way, nano is my fav too !	06:09
BladeNBrocade	being that vmware workstation on virtualizes the hardware its hard to tell what was detected and what is being used.. for instance.. in your vid card settings,, do u actually see the nvidia or ati card being used,, or do u see some generic device?	06:09
hannerpc	trying to get the Nvidia driver to work on a new install of Ubuntu - did updates, downloaded and activated driver, on reboot the display comes up as a fraction of line on the top of the monitor. Ran the (recovery?) option and back to where it is visable, but can't get the driver to activate and work - Oh using 17' LCD monitor.	06:09
[Snipe]	thanks	06:09
genii	ProgramError1: You can plug a router in and use it's MAC for the bootp. Whatever clients are on it just get nat'd	06:09
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, 3gb of ram assigned to the vm (8gb in the system atm total i could put in 12 if needed (i dont have enough 4gb sitcks to get to 16)) directx is working...unless there is some sort of networking thing in directx im not aware of...thought that was just graphics i see only a generic device though i do make sure the "accelerate graphics" option is checked...should i maybe use the onboard for the host system and give the video card really to	06:10
celthunder	ONLY the guest....	06:10
Rusty_A1	!outyet	06:10
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	06:10
ProgramError1	genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?	06:10
celthunder	hannerpc, which card?	06:10
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: possibly i was mistaken,, are these online games or just locally installed copies?	06:10
He-man	Flannel: What does this mean? "NOTICE NickServ: Insufficient parameters for REGISTER"?	06:10
lstarnes	He-man: you are not using the command correctly	06:10
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, downloaded on the pc but you play on online servers	06:10
lstarnes	He-man: see "/msg nickserv help register" and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup	06:11
celthunder	He-man, you didnt provide enough arguments...its /nickserv register "pass" "email"	06:11
lstarnes	He-man: also, #freenode is better for questions related to irc or freenode	06:11
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: correct this is what i suspected.. in that case yes directX/networking have become dependant on each other..give me a second let me check something for you	06:11
ProgramError1	genii, ok but wouldnt it always point to the router then instead of the computer that is serving the files?	06:11
He-man	Istarnes: Okay. I'll have a look.	06:11
genii	ProgramError1: I haven't tried it through a router yet, but in principle it should work.	06:12
ProgramError1	genii, ok thanks	06:12
He-man	celthunder: Which email? I don't think I have specified an email previously.	06:12
ProgramError1	ill try to figure this out then	06:12
hannerpc	celthunder not sure of chip version, its onboard, is there an equivilent to device manager or msinfo I can access?	06:12
AJNpa28	anybody know what command you use to load Ubuntu from a bash shell???	06:12
celthunder	hannerpc, lspci	06:12
ProgramError1	any recommendations on a tutorial?	06:12
lstarnes	He-man: use your own email address	06:12
lstarnes	He-man: it will be needed for a verification code and future password resets	06:13
celthunder	AJNpa28, if you are at a bash shell you are already IN an os...you cant load an os from an os without virtualization of some kind	06:13
He-man	Istarnes: I see. Cheers mate.	06:13
AJNpa28	ok	06:13
genii	ProgramError1: http://www.rhyshaden.com/dhcp.htm indicates it can work across routers	06:13
KingKimi	space_cadet, HI !	06:13
ProgramError1	thanks again	06:13
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: what about the thing i asked about the actual ati or nvidia being used in vmware or when u go to ur installed hardware ur using a generic SVGA driver or VMwares.. have you checked that is not the case?	06:13
BladeNBrocade	s/or/of/	06:14
Amaeth	Hello	06:14
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, it is using the generic driver. the hardware is still emulated so thats ok though isnt it?	06:14
prodigy	so when is the new release coming out?	06:14
Amaeth	is true that in some servers the 910 is now downloadable?	06:14
celthunder	prodigy today	06:14
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: not neccessarily..	06:15
KingKimi	space_cadet, :( ?	06:15
AnnonyMouse1	any idea what time Jaunty's coming out? I need to start downloading ISO's for tomorrows release party	06:15
prodigy	will there be xubuntu too? im more interested in that actually	06:15
hannerpc	celthunder - I appologize in advance, I am horribly new to linux/unix based shell is this where I should be?	06:15
hannerpc	root@mojo-desktop:/home/mojo# \|spci	06:15
hannerpc	bash: syntax error near unexpected token `\|'	06:15
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: 64 or 32 bit system?	06:15
KingKimi	!isitout \| AnnonyMouse1	06:15
ubottu	AnnonyMouse1: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	06:15
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, so you are saying networking and graphics became linked somehow?	06:15
celthunder	hannerpc, its an l not a \|	06:15
prodigy	celthunder: thanks....today as in like right now cuz its already today :)	06:15
sata	hannerpc, its l	06:15
hannerpc	:$	06:15
lstarnes	prodigy: sometime today	06:15
Bill_Gates	not out yet	06:16
AJNpa28	i am having a problem with b43 broadcom firmware i know how to fix it, but everything reverts after reboot, wont write to disk, figured id like to enter gui from prompt without reboot	06:16
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, 64 bit host 32 bit guest (8300 doesnt support 64 bit guest though if i need to i guess i can grab a q6600 and use a 64 bit guest....)	06:16
Amaeth	but in some #ubuntu channel they are people telling us that is downloading the 910 (not the rc)	06:16
He-man	Is there a specific room for querying OpenOffice.org?	06:16
celthunder	He-man, #openoffice.org	06:16
He-man	celthunder: Thanks:)	06:17
He-man	#openoffice.org	06:17
He-man	Oops	06:17
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: yes in the world of whicever online game ur playing that is dependant on networking,, yes,, if ur are receiving a stream to display on ur local VM from the net.. then yes if there is a bottleneck in directX painting ur screen.. it can appear to be a networking issue.. similar to how many people on windows XP with 512MB and 1000 startup apps say the internet is slow	06:17
prodigy	so, just ubuntu today? or also kubuntu, xubuntu and eduubuntu?	06:17
He-man	lol, thats better:)	06:17
hannerpc	celthunder: nVidia Corporation C51G [GeForce 6100] (rev a2)	06:18
AJNpa28	now this is a wubi install i dont know if thats why it wont write	06:18
celthunder	hannerpc, then dont use the latest nvidia driver go back one or two..the latest stops support atl ike 8000 or 7000 series i think	06:18
KingKimi	hp1020 is not prinintg. but its printing in xp./ help me :( all correctly plugged...... it shows in print dialog box .... but simpley stands..... it cannt print	06:18
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ok ill try setting the graphics driver to a non generic one...thank you for your time.	06:18
toyo\|desk	dose anyone know what time tomorrow 9.04 will be out?	06:19
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: whats the cpu utilization while ur playing the game?	06:19
tgr	when i start ubuntu the lcd contrast is turned all the way down how do i change that so it is brighter?	06:19
thirdwheel_	toyo\|desk, ask in #ubuntu-release-party	06:19
paul68	!party\|toyo\|desk	06:19
ubottu	toyo\|desk: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	06:19
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, like 40 percent...avg per core being like 20	06:19
toyo\|desk	thanks paul68	06:19
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, but i can only assign 2 cores to the vm not all 4 so thats not an accurate ....either way its not the cpu/ram its running out of	06:20
chris062689	Could anyone help me package up a DEB file?	06:20
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: just wondering.. trying to cancel things out	06:20
Kiran_ur_frnd4u	hi	06:21
Rusty_A1	there's a guide to DEB packaging in the Ubuntu wiki.	06:21
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: in ur setting in VMware have u enabled hardware acceleration?	06:21
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ok it says vga ii 128mb of ram for the video device.. where do i increase that	06:21
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, yes i enabled hardware acceleration	06:22
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: that may be an issue as well	06:22
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: in ur windows setting is hardware acceleration enabled?	06:22
SunnyDP	hey guys, i have TOTALLY lost my Trash icon, and i cannot put it back on the panel , even using the "Add to panel" option, any hints ?	06:23
AJNpa28	anyone know why everything i do at the prompt in a wubi install is lost after reboot? everything i do seems kosher before i reboot, things are where i move them packages are installed etc then reboot and bang whoosh deja vu, same as the day it was born.	06:23
chris062689	SunnyDP: You get an error message?	06:23
sejt1	hi	06:24
chris062689	AJNpa28: is your HDD mounted read-only?	06:24
SunnyDP	chris062689: nothing, just cant add the trash icon to the panel	06:24
=== john is now known as drone1
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: try this.. update the guest OS.. windows updates.. snapshot the VM just in case.. poweroff..disable hardware accel in the VM settings.. and boot up and run a direct X app with the windows process manager or the sysinternals process explorer running.. monitor which processes cause a spike	06:24
=== He-man is now known as Whitebelt
ZhouYu	what is the best code editing tool in ubuntu ? eclipse ? i want to code in php... in windows i am using e-texteditor	06:25
Aggrav8d	hello, everybody! can I pm some stupid questions about adduser/usermod to someone for 10 minutes? I need some 1:1 tutoring because I'm a moron who can't seem to google instructions.	06:25
SunnyDP	ZhouYu: jedit	06:25
Gnea	!trash \| SunnyDP	06:25
ubottu	SunnyDP: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash \| Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash	06:25
chris062689	ZhouYu: gedit's a good one for GNOME.	06:25
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, ok ill do that hold on	06:25
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: k	06:25
sejt1	when i use gksu nautikus and move something to trash... the files are disapeard , but no free space!	06:25
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: still googling... i would just call that a best practice for now..	06:25
Whitebelt	Thanks for your help people:)	06:26
ZhouYu	SunnyDP & chris062689 : ok thx... i'll try both of them :)	06:26
AJNpa28	dont know, how can i check. the only way i can add things to the tree is in the folders i can see in winows like custom install, and shared, other than that nothing will stick how would i check and change?	06:26
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: in ur BASE System.. do u have the CPU virtualization option available and enabled in BIOS?	06:26
Gnea	sejt1: who's trash? regular user's or root's?	06:26
Trijntje	Hi all, how hard is it to use a different file manager in gnome? Cause nautilus is causing long login delay	06:26
RedMercury	use xterm	06:27
RedMercury	:)	06:27
BladeNBrocade	lol	06:27
BladeNBrocade	midnight commander hehe	06:27
RedMercury	xterm and mc	06:27
SunnyDP	Gnea: regular, and all i want is to have it back in my panel, but it seems impossible	06:27
sejt1	trash for root Gnea	06:27
RedMercury	heh	06:27
BladeNBrocade	lol	06:27
BladeNBrocade	RedMercury: so ur old school huh? =)	06:27
Gnea	SunnyDP: what's regular?	06:27
SunnyDP	Gnea: regular user trash	06:27
Gnea	sejt1: why would you bother with root's trash?	06:28
Gnea	SunnyDP: did you check to see if either of those directories exist?	06:28
SunnyDP	Gnea: they do, and when i "Add to panel" it does not add it	06:28
=== Blizzerand__ is now known as Blizzerand
sejt1	Gnea because my external hard drive reached only this vay	06:28
* BladeNBrocade fires up vuze		06:29
Gnea	sejt1: are you a part of the disk group?	06:29
lenyel_	has anyone tried using xmonad with ubuntu 9.04 rc and had problems launching terminals?	06:29
Flannel	lenyel_: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.	06:30
sejt1	Gnea where can i chek it please thnakyou	06:30
lenyel_	ok will try thanks	06:30
Gnea	sejt1: open a terminal and type: id	06:30
=== BladeNBrocade is now known as errpt-a
mrb__	Hello everybody..... anybody have any idea when the 9.04 ganna be online..	06:31
Flannel	mrb__: #ubuntu-release-party, thanks	06:31
c0l2e	how can I replace a certain text/string in a file using grep or sed??	06:31
HiveDrone	anyone know why xorg fails to start after activating the restricted ATI drivers? (Its some days ago I tried last, I should add)	06:31
sejt1	Gnea ok and?	06:32
sejt1	copy paste here?	06:32
=== errpt-a is now known as BladeNBrocade
mrb__	flannel, thanks	06:32
Gnea	sejt1: it should all be one line, so go ahead and paste that one line, please	06:32
Gnea	sejt1: if it's more than one line, then use pastebin	06:33
sejt1	jt1@hydra:~$ id	06:33
sejt1	uid=1000(sejt1) gid=1000(sejt1) groups=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),123(admin),124(sambashare),1000(sejt1)	06:33
ela_	aiiight	06:34
munwin	:-)	06:34
BladeNBrocade	;>	06:35
AJNpa28	if hard drive is mounted read only what command would i use from terminal to change it to write	06:37
Gnea	sejt1: alright, you're going to need to give yourself access to the disk group - System->Administration->Users & Groups, select yourself and modify your groups/properties	06:37
sejt1	ok checkolom	06:37
Gnea	AJNpa28: sudo mount -n -o remount,rw /media/disk	06:37
sejt1	koszi/thank jou	06:38
ela_	does someone mind if i ask them noob ubuntu linux questions?	06:38
BladeNBrocade	ela_: no	06:38
Gnea	only if you ask to ask it :)	06:38
ela_	aiiight cool	06:38
Gnea	(btw this is irc, not the street :p )	06:39
Gnea	!ask	06:39
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:39
ela_	i just wanted to know if i had to type in the terminal to execute a bin file EVERY time i wanted to use the file	06:39
Gnea	nah	06:39
ela_	or is there some way to link it to something	06:40
Gnea	you could set the proper executable permissions, move it to the Desktop/ and double-click it everytime	06:40
profx	anyone good with DHCP in a Windows environment?	06:40
Gnea	like this: chmod 700 file.bin && mv file.bin ~/Desktop	06:40
ubuntistas	when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?	06:40
Gnea	profx: probably the people in #windows or #windows-server	06:40
Detonated	ela_, right click on ubuntu desktop and choose Create Launcher	06:41
BladeNBrocade	did someone saw dhcpd?	06:41
BladeNBrocade	s/saw/say/	06:41
Gnea	Detonated: he was asking about how to do it in the terminal	06:41
profx	Gnea, im asking in here	06:41
ela_	thanks guys	06:41
Gnea	!ot \| profx	06:41
zippyfish	did the new relase came out yet..	06:41
ubottu	profx: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	06:41
BladeNBrocade	s/came/come/	06:41
Gnea	zippyfish: nope, check #ubuntu-release-party	06:41
profx	Gnea, dont get on my bad side, you wont like it	06:41
AJNpa28	cool if i can get this b43 fw to stick im gonna ditch windows alltogether, only machine i havent gotten linux to run on, my little laptop, ive set several people up, and my averatec turd refuses to boot without b43 firmware, and i havent been able to get it to stick. if this works i'll freak its been 2 months on and off	06:42
sejt1	i didnt find uhhhhh	06:42
Gnea	profx: pardon?	06:42
zippyfish	thx	06:42
=== gladiator is now known as Guest7389
Guest7389	hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline?	06:42
Gnea	profx: don't start none, won't be none	06:42
BladeNBrocade	apt-get --purge remove compiz*	06:42
BladeNBrocade	sudo	06:42
profx	!ot \| Gnea	06:42
ubottu	Gnea: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	06:42
bazhang	profx, stop that	06:43
profx	stop what bazhang?	06:43
Gnea	profx: right, so if you need help with Windows DHCP Server, ask in #windows or #windows-server	06:43
profx	typing messages into a channel?	06:43
profx	Gnea, repeating is both annoying an not useful	06:43
Jdban	I have a quick question I figured someone might know the answer to: how soon will 9.04 be released? (soon as in how many hours)	06:43
owen1	is there a site showing the packages and the versions of all the packages ubuntu 9.04 comes with?	06:43
BladeNBrocade	come on guys.. smile	06:43
=== Torhal is now known as Torhal\|Sleep
BladeNBrocade	=)	06:43
Gnea	profx: you're not going to get any help by acting like this	06:43
=== Guest7389 is now known as rosepetal
profx	Gnea, maybe you just need to ignore any further comments from me, to save us both some time	06:44
rosepetal	hi.. how do i reset compiz and / or uninstall it completely from commandline? i accidentally set the opacity to 100% and now nothing shows	06:44
Gnea	profx: no problem there, if you'd stop making them and maybe say something more useful.	06:44
profx	and I will be more than happy to do the same, in return	06:44
vart	!outyet \| Jdban	06:44
BladeNBrocade	rosepetal: apt-get --purge remove compiz*	06:44
ubottu	Jdban: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	06:44
Jdban	thank you ubottu	06:44
rosepetal	BladeNBrocade: will it remove all the effects as well?	06:45
Detonated	Jdban, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	06:45
BladeNBrocade	rosepetal: yes	06:45
profx	Gnea, saying something 'useful' in your eyes, isnt my purpose of being here, so just continue to do what you were doing before I dropped in	06:45
Kemeros	ubottu thx that was my question	06:45
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:45
dfs	how to import firefox addons from user account a to user acount b	06:45
Gnea	profx: just drop the attitude already.	06:45
fore	can someone tell me why, since i upgraded to 9.04 the flash player in my website doesnt display anymore?	06:45
fore	do i need to reinstall flash ?	06:45
profx	Gnea, stop posting messages to be, and it will 'drop'	06:45
profx	me*	06:46
g4lt-lappy	fore #ubuntu+1 can	06:46
sejt1	Gnea when i use gksu nautilus i have rigts but whn i erase filesin the trash it cant work	06:46
=== Yasumoto_ is now known as Yasumoto
maximo	!jaunty Jackalope	06:46
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:46
Gnea	profx: we can take this private, if you prefer.	06:46
dfs	how to import firefox addons from one suer account to another	06:46
profx	Gnea, take what to private exactly?	06:47
dfs	how to import firefox addons from one user account to another	06:47
BladeNBrocade	dfs maybe copying the .firefox file?	06:47
BladeNBrocade	directory rather	06:47
ela_	does anyone know how to add mp3's to an ipod, or what proper app to use?	06:47
dfs	how really new to commandlinepls give me the command	06:47
rosepetal	BladeNBroCade: did i mention i am unable to see anything on screen. i wont be able to see any of the prompts etc that come before the uninstall :S	06:47
profx	Gnea i insist you do not continue to annoy me	06:47
Gnea	!ipod \| ela_	06:47
ubottu	ela_: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod	06:47
BladeNBrocade	!ipod \| ela_	06:47
BladeNBrocade	argh	06:48
AJNpa28	phew ubottu farted	06:48
trippin	hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using uname -r	06:48
trippin	2.6.27-11-generic	06:48
BladeNBrocade	lol	06:48
svensko	what's the ETA on 9.04?	06:48
Gnea	profx: or?	06:48
chris062689	How come http://releases.ubuntu.com/ is redirecting to http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/?	06:48
Gnea	ela_: see what ubottu told you	06:48
BladeNBrocade	its probably intended	06:48
paul68	in the home folder there are a lot of user definition folders like ./firefox or ./eclipse is my assumption correct when I do a fresh install of jaunty and replace the new user profile folders with the exsisting ones it will work like its working now or am I wrong?	06:49
ela_	ok	06:49
dfs	bladenbrocade please give methe command how to do it	06:49
BladeNBrocade	cp -r	06:49
g4lt-lappy	paul68, to some extent. the directories aren't all-inclusive	06:49
BladeNBrocade	u may want to mv the existing .firefox file to .firefox.bak just incase	06:50
g4lt-lappy	and of course, there's no guarantees about version specific rc files	06:50
vart	tripping: use #ubuntu+1 channel	06:50
* BladeNBrocade shivers		06:50
paul68	g4lt-lappy: its just for the thunderbird settings keep my mails and stuff	06:51
=== BePhantom_ is now known as HaikuOS
g4lt-lappy	paul68, again, it should work, but there's too many variables to say it will	06:51
paul68	g4lt-lappy: ok thanks	06:51
BladeNBrocade	thats not going to work paul68 because those . file come as u install those apps.. u would need to build a exact replica of ur packages to even try that	06:52
=== Torhal\|Sleep is now known as Torhal
maximo	where do I go to enable tab-completion?	06:52
BladeNBrocade	example i dont believe .eclips is a default package.. therefore the .eclipse folder would be useless,, and even when u installed eclipse i believe it would just write its own	06:53
paul68	BladeNBrocade: its just for thunderbird that I want to do this to make sure that I don't have to rebuild my folder structure and rules that I have set	06:53
BladeNBrocade	paul68: that may work..	06:53
paul68	BladeNBrocade: ok thanks	06:54
eugen_	hey I'm trying to start dansguardian, but I get this error: "	06:54
=== eugen_ is now known as Guest4741
Guest4741	" * Starting DansGuardian dansguardianError connecting to parent proxy	06:54
Guest4741	"	06:54
Guest4741	what does that mean?	06:54
paul68	BladeNBrocade: is there a way to export rules from thunderbird?	06:54
JauntyFreak	release party channel?	06:54
trippin_	hi i was wondering if some one in here could tell me what i can do to fix my menu.lst file, i just upgraded to 9.04 and i'm still using 2.6.27-11-generic rather then 2.6.28-11	06:55
g4lt-lappy	trithere's a specific channel for jaunty: #ubuntu+1. use it	06:55
BladeNBrocade	paul68: good question,, i would check the menu,,there is a defined import submenu.. possible there u would see.. it sounds like something do able.. i would imagine that would be the GUI port to doing exactly what u are trying to do manually..	06:55
ubuntistas	when ubuntu it's gone be uploaded in the mirrors?	06:55
maximo	rather wait a couple of days to upgrade	06:55
g4lt-lappy	trippin, ^^^^^	06:56
JauntyFreak	whats the release partys channel link please	06:56
bazhang	!party	06:56
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	06:56
paul68	BladeNBrocade: ok thanks	06:56
=== HaikuOS is now known as BePhantom
maximo	where do I go to enable tab-completion?	06:57
g4lt-lappy	maximo, in what?	06:58
KingKimi	does anyone one about WIN4LIN ????? is it the same as of virtual box or different ???? or is it like wine ? or virtualbox ? or what ?	06:59
maximo	g4lt-lappy: mine is not enabled to like doing nick's completion or else....	06:59
blap	can someone please explain to me how I can install FiSH plugin for irssi!?	06:59
g4lt-lappy	maximo, again in what? theere are about a dozen differen IRC clients	07:00
sejt1	error message Gnea Sorry, could not display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported	07:01
maximo	g4lt-lappy: konversation	07:01
BladeNBrocade	paul68: looks like thunderbird has an extension for this as well	07:01
sejt1	after gksu	07:01
wolter	is there an irc client for linux as fancy as colloquy?	07:01
g4lt-lappy	maximo, hyou would choose the one I don't have any idea about. sorry :(	07:01
Gnea	sejt1: did you get added to the disk group?	07:01
sejt1	no because i dont find	07:02
KingKimi	i am now installing xp into vbox.... but my mouse cannot get out of vbox ose ,,. though i clicked ctrl a 100 times :( ///// only window i am active is xchat (luckily) ... plz help me to get my mouse pointer	07:02
maximo	g4lt-lappy: will go type : --> g4lt {tab} no working	07:02
marktheflyingspa	anyone know if the new ubuntu jaubty is relaesed as a non beta today ?	07:03
KingKimi	!isitout	07:03
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	07:03
wolter	marktheflyingspa, tomorrow i guess	07:03
marktheflyingspa	opps jaunty	07:03
wolter	last time i saw it was 1 day remaining	07:03
madrazr	Amaranth: or any other admin, may be you need to set the topic this time too, "Jaunty is released, when it is released. Don't Ask". Like it was done for Intrepid :D	07:03
madrazr	LoL!	07:03
marktheflyingspa	thanks mate ... we get the days first in australia S	07:04
Gnea	sejt1: okay, this is what you need to do then: sudo vigr then look for a line like this one: disk:x:6: then add your username to the end of it, like this: disk:x:6:sejt1 then save/exit, logout, login again and you shouldn't need to be root to read/write the disk	07:04
shantzu	any idea when 9.04 is going to come out? =)	07:04
Gnea	!jaunty \| shantzu	07:04
ubottu	shantzu: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	07:04
KingKimi	can anyone help me to get my mouse outta vbox ose ???? i clicked control key 1000 times and it is not getting out :(	07:04
=== Amaranth changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel \| Be patient and read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FAQ \| Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support \| IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC \| Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com \| Install Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download \| Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 \| Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be
marktheflyingspa	THX for the info	07:05
BladeNBrocade	CTRL + SHIFT or some fuction like that usually release the mouse from vmachines KingKimi	07:05
* BladeNBrocade whispers "on laggy java remote consoles too"		07:06
tenzind	hi .. does ubuntu support upgrades from one release to another (without having to reinstall), like Debian does?	07:07
Flannel	tenzind: Of course	07:07
BladeNBrocade	tenzind: yes,, u can also turn debian to ubuntu	07:07
BladeNBrocade	tenzind: even though that has nothing to do with what u asked i thought it was relevant =)	07:08
reefer	Anyone here to help me with my wireless issue	07:09
jonaskoelker	Hi all. In gnome-do, when I'm indexing too many files, how do I make the error message stay visible for long enough time to read it?	07:09
tenzind	Flannel, and ubuntu also has the "unstable, testing, stable" releases?	07:09
Flannel	tenzind: No.	07:09
reefer	I am having a problem with weak wireless signal when i am like 10 feet from the router	07:10
dlozarie	good day, guys. I was just wondering if I could upgrade to 9.04 using the live cd, or if that only did installs?	07:10
enterneo	enterneo: I have a proxy server, which is listening on an arbitrary port, now I want to simulate the working of that proxy server, how do i send some dummy data on that port for a destined ip and then route back to the original sender, with the proxy working both ways, I will have the console echo the working in my proxy server implementation	07:10
BladeNBrocade	!wireless \| reefer	07:10
ubottu	reefer: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	07:10
mib_0da4stqv	hi all, ubuntu9.04 was supposed to be released today, did it ??	07:10
g4lt-lappy	mib_0da4stqv, /topic	07:10
karbo	is it out yet?!	07:10
g4lt-lappy	DIAF	07:11
BladeNBrocade	lol	07:11
tenzind	Flannel, so if i am no a stable ubuntu right now, can i not then shift into something like the debian testing, so that when that testing becomes stable, i would already have "stable" ?	07:11
Flannel	!conduct \| g4lt-lappy	07:11
ubottu	g4lt-lappy: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/	07:11
mib_0da4stqv	@karbo, the scheduled date is 23rd, right?	07:11
g4lt-lappy	Flannel, i literally just answered it	07:11
tenzind	on*	07:11
Flannel	tenzind: Erm, what? You're right now using the release candidate or beta of 9.04, and you're wondering about how you move to stable 9.04?	07:12
Flannel	g4lt-lappy: Indeed. That doesn't mean you can be rude.	07:12
mib_0da4stqv	all are sleeping	07:12
g4lt-lappy	Flannel, since I was completely ignored, it really can't be rude, now can it?	07:12
tenzind	Flannel, on 8.10	07:12
g4lt-lappy	its only rude if they listen in the first palce	07:12
BladeNBrocade	is there a way to make compiz work on 2 monitors?	07:12
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BladeNBrocade	in xinerama mode	07:13
Flannel	g4lt-lappy: Again, please don't be rude to anyone. Whether you think they're listening to you or not.	07:13
Lord_Devi	g4lt-lappy: i'm a witness who thinks you were rude.. does that count?	07:13
mib_0da4stqv	@g4lt ....lol	07:13
dlozarie	uhm looks like one can request a 9.04 live cd on the website now	07:13
g4lt-lappy	BladeNBrocade, nothing's easy on dual monitors	07:13
TheBeast	9.04 will be released today?	07:13
BladeNBrocade	g4lt-lappy: didn't ask for easy just is there a way..	07:13
mib_0da4stqv	@Lord/Flannel,,,ppl like you guys should never come to this forum,,,,,	07:13
Lord_Devi	mib_0da4stqv: lol, didn't say I wasn't rude myself... i just recognize it. =)	07:14
Lord_Devi	I'm from EFnet, I'm pretty hard to offend.	07:14
Flannel	tenzind: Once 9.04 is released, you can upgrade from 8.10 to it, using update manager. You'll get a prompt to upgrade if you're using the GUI.	07:14
g4lt-lappy	Lord_Devi, given you prolly didn't listen the first time either, no	07:14
Guest4741	hey what web filtering software is reccommended?	07:14
BladeNBrocade	g4lt-lappy: actually compiz works without xinerama enabled.. however in that mode.. it completely doesn't load	07:14
dlozarie	well I believe it was scheduled for release today. Maybe later on in the day?	07:14
Flannel	Guest4741: Try dansguardian	07:14
mib_0da4stqv	guys wasting ur and others time	07:14
tenzind	Flannel, ok .. thanks	07:14
dlozarie	Flannel: if my internet connection conks out at any time during the update process, what happens?	07:14
KingKimi	\join #vboz	07:14
Flannel	!party \| dlozarie, TheBeast	07:14
ubottu	dlozarie, TheBeast: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	07:14
KingKimi	\join #vbox	07:15
Flannel	!upgrade \| tenzind	07:15
ubottu	tenzind: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	07:15
Lord_Devi	dlozarie: It will resume the download when you start it up again later.	07:15
mib_0da4stqv	dont do that@Lord	07:15
Flannel	dlozarie: It downloads all the packages, and then installs them. So, if its at the download stage nothing, you just restart. If its installing... well, then it's not downloading anymore.	07:15
mib_0da4stqv	@dlozaire,,,,yep i think so	07:15
Lord_Devi	mib_0da4stqv: Do what?	07:15
BladeNBrocade	id rather xinerama because it defeats the purpose of my two monitors if i can't use one as primary and the other as secondary.. just having two seperate copies of X running isn't working..so i left wobbly windows for functionality..	07:15
mib_0da4stqv	ok guys keep kicking each other,,,m moving	07:15
dlozarie	Lord_Devi: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.	07:15
mib_0da4stqv	bye	07:15
dlozarie	Flannel: oh, cool. whew. thanks guys.	07:16
BladeNBrocade	now.. id like my wobbly windows back	07:16
luddite	oh i logged on to find out why 9.04 wasnt released today and im told not to ask by the welcome text :-)	07:16
dlozarie	will pre-order a few CDs though, to give out to my friends.	07:16
Flannel	luddite: #ubuntu-release-party	07:16
luddite	flannel - thanks :-)	07:16
Lord_Devi	luddite: #ubuntu+1 might be less strict about it	07:17
konsolenrocker_	can anyone suggest me a pricy unix workstation?	07:17
jonrafkind	is anyone using the xorg-ati driver? I get 300fps with it in glxgears, which seems rather low	07:17
Lord_Devi	konsolenrocker: Whisper stations by Microway	07:17
konsolenrocker_	i try	07:17
Flannel	konsolenrocker_: Try #ubuntu-offtopic or #hardware, this isn't a proper channel for that. Thanks.	07:17
konsolenrocker_	ok	07:17
BladeNBrocade	aix?	07:18
reefer	If anyone can help me with my wireless issue please pm me	07:19
Geoffrey2	there's a command I can type in that will show a list of folders along with the total amount of space each is taking up...but I can't remember the name of the command...	07:19
Flannel	Geoffrey2: du	07:19
BladeNBrocade	du	07:19
jonaskoelker	Geoffrey2: du	07:19
Geoffrey2	ah, thanks :)	07:19
BladeNBrocade	lol	07:19
linuxguymarshall	I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?	07:19
BladeNBrocade	actually... thats not it	07:19
Gnea	Geoffrey2: du -h	07:20
BladeNBrocade	du -skh * should be what ur looking for	07:20
rascallinux	release party room please	07:20
Gnea	BladeNBrocade: not -s	07:20
BladeNBrocade	why not s?	07:20
Gnea	rascallinux: #ubuntu-release-party	07:20
Lord_Devi	Geoffrey2: du -cks * \|sort -rn \|head -11	07:20
Gnea	BladeNBrocade: he wants the size of all of the folders, not just the whole size of everything in the CWD	07:20
BladeNBrocade	rainofkayos@rain:~$ du -skh *	07:21
BladeNBrocade	4.0KAdobeReader.desktop	07:21
BladeNBrocade	4.0KAzureus Downloads	07:21
BladeNBrocade	14MDesktop	07:21
BladeNBrocade	7.1GDocuments	07:21
FloodBot2	BladeNBrocade: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:21
WindowSmasher	Hi all	07:21
Lord_Devi	Geoffrey2: That'll sort the list in order of greatest to least space offenders..	07:21
BladeNBrocade	srry	07:21
WindowSmasher	What are the pros and cons of 64 bit ubuntu 8.10?	07:21
WindowSmasher	Are there still installation issues with flash etc?	07:21
BladeNBrocade	oh i see what u mean	07:21
Gnea	WindowSmasher: pro: it's fast. con: what?	07:21
Lord_Devi	WindowSmasher: No, haven't been any flash issues for a long time with 64 bit ubuntu.	07:22
Gnea	WindowSmasher: nope, it's been fixed	07:22
WindowSmasher	Any issues running wine?	07:22
Lord_Devi	WindowSmasher: No cons I can think of to be honest.	07:22
Gnea	it runs	07:22
wtv	when does jaunty release?	07:22
paul68	how to become an registered ubuntu user	07:22
Gnea	!jaunty \| wtv	07:22
celthunder	WindowSmasher, thers con's to 64 bit? ive used wine and it worked fine	07:22
ubottu	wtv: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	07:22
paul68	!jaunty	07:22
Lord_Devi	WindowSmasher: Nope. I play CoV/WoW/Eve... quite a few games with wine these days	07:22
Lord_Devi	w/ 64bit	07:22
WindowSmasher	Thanks all!	07:22
WindowSmasher	I'll bbl	07:22
Lord_Devi	yw	07:22
WindowSmasher	Tired of Vista. Came preloaded on this new desktop. I'm very unhappy with it	07:23
wtv	celthunder: i know but its 23rd april today and its not released	07:23
linuxguymarshall	Anyone at all?	07:23
Gnea	WindowSmasher: basically, the cons have been dramatically reduced in the past couple of years :)	07:23
* BladeNBrocade shivers @ sound of vista		07:23
WindowSmasher	Sold.	07:23
Lord_Devi	WindowSmasher: I love how they just force that on ya. Wish lots of extra mcafee stuff too..	07:23
Lord_Devi	yay	07:23
Lord_Devi	:%s/Wish/With	07:23
linuxguymarshall	I am trying to get my battery working on my Lenovo S10. Ubuntu 9.04. Same issue as described here : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1035411.html I have asked many places, waited for long times and no one seems willing to help. Anyone have any solutions they want me to try?	07:23
BladeNBrocade	heh mcaffe is poopy	07:23
Gnea	WindowSmasher: give it a couple days and there will be plenty of seeds for the new iso's via bittorrent :)	07:24
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Gnea	linuxguymarshall: only place that can help you with it right now would be in #ubuntu+1	07:24
paul68	doesn anyone know how to become an registered ubuntu user	07:24
Gnea	paul68: registered, in what way?	07:25
linuxguymarshall	Gnea:Thank you so much	07:25
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celthunder	wtv ? i didnt say anything?	07:25
paul68	Gnea: like you see in the forums that someone became a registered ubuntu user with a number besides it	07:25
wtv	celthunder: sorry i meant Gnea	07:26
Lord_Devi	paul68: Cononical has a few different membership levels available. They are described on the webpage.. I'm afraid I don't know too much about them though.	07:26
Lord_Devi	One of them includes an SLA though.. that's pretty awesome.	07:26
BladeNBrocade	Lord_Devi: thats pretty cool	07:26
paul68	Lord_Devi: ok thanks	07:26
* Lord_Devi smiles at paul		07:26
neil_d	Lord_Devi: SLA?	07:26
Gnea	paul68: aah, I just registered on the forums page and I think it just increases the more you post/reply	07:26
BladeNBrocade	neil_d: service level agreement	07:27
neil_d	BladeNBrocade: ok	07:27
Lord_Devi	neil_d: Service Level Agreement. Essentialy gaurenteed service in a gauranteed time frame	07:27
BladeNBrocade	more or less	07:27
Lord_Devi	Companies with far too much money love em. hehe	07:27
paul68	Gnea: thats just the number of posts you are doing, I don't have an example at hand was just wondering how to become "an official ubuntu user"	07:27
sejt1	ok i dont know ?then save/exit? Gnea	07:28
Lord_Devi	Who wouldn't wonder! =)	07:28
BladeNBrocade	heh tell me about it... we have 15 minutes SLA response 4 hr to resolve/escalate	07:28
* Lord_Devi 's eyes pop out of his head		07:28
* BladeNBrocade 's pops out his everyday =(		07:29
Lord_Devi	I could never offer an SLA like that myself..	07:29
Lord_Devi	You want it when?!?	07:29
BladeNBrocade	lol haha .. well we bend the rules alot as well	07:29
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Lord_Devi	hah	07:29
Lord_Devi	who's we?	07:29
thurston	Good day. Does anyone have an idea when on 23/04/2009 (today) will Ubuntu 9.04 be available. I am not referring to the release candidate.	07:30
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, thats quite a demand..15 minutes? and you only have 500 ppl you said?	07:30
BladeNBrocade	i have clients like mastercard, the gap,, its expected	07:30
Flannel	thurston: No. No one does. #ubuntu-release-party might be a good place to hang out though.	07:30
paul68	BladeNBrocade: we have a service level of 95% to be solved directly on first call and we are actually at 99%	07:30
Lord_Devi	thurston: good day. I think in an hour and a half from now it's supposed to be on the servers...	07:30
BladeNBrocade	yes 15 minutes to respond .. meaning when our monitrong sees an alert there is a countdown	07:30
Lord_Devi	oh yeah.. not supposed to answer that question.	07:30
* Lord_Devi smacks his forehead		07:30
Flannel	Lord_Devi: especially with bad information.	07:30
* Lord_Devi nods at Flannel, That too..		07:31
Lord_Devi	I'm just workin off a time I heard in here earlier. =)	07:31
BladeNBrocade	paul68: awesome... our competitors are people like IBM,,, we just partnered with Cisco because they dont support applications.. the work flow just increased by alsmost 250% .. yes @ the central office i can only say we have 80 people at most..	07:31
thurston	Lord_Devi: Thank you for your response. I will try to be patient. I am now hooked on Ubuntu.	07:32
BladeNBrocade	we have onsite teams.. we have a india office,, and california and netherlands.. but still not big at all those offices..	07:32
paul68	BladeNBrocade: ouch thats a lot of work lol	07:32
BladeNBrocade	yes its .. ironically... lol making more people QUIT... so its actually getting worst..	07:32
cemc	jaunty with gnome. I have no visual effects enabled, still when I minimize a window, there's a basic minimize effect. How can I disable that?	07:33
Gnea	paul68: I'm really not sure, sorry... but thanks for reminding me, I need to update that howto I started writing last year :)	07:33
Flannel	cemc: #ubuntu+1 for Jaunty support, thanks.	07:34
cemc	Flannel: got it. sorry.	07:34
Canaen	Anyone have experience with Ubuntu Tweak and/or upgrading intrepid's native OpenOffice 2.4 to 3.0.1?	07:34
BladeNBrocade	not sure about tweak but the installation files should be available on the Oo0 site if not the repo no?	07:35
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BladeNBrocade	Canaen: there is as well an option to update in O0O... i think that would acquire the 3.0 binary atleast	07:36
Geoffrey2	oh, is there a command to let you know how much swap is actually being used, if any?	07:36
BladeNBrocade	swap -l	07:36
BladeNBrocade	swapon -l	07:36
Gnea	!ooo	07:36
ubottu	a free and open source office suite that includes word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components. To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". For (unofficial) repositories containing OpenOffice.org 3, see https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa. User help available in #openoffice.org.	07:36
Lord_Devi	Geoffrey2: 'free'	07:36
Canaen	BladeNBrocade: should I uninstall 2.4 first, or should I be able to just upgrade?	07:37
BladeNBrocade	-s actually	07:37
Geoffrey2	surprise, surprise....none	07:37
BladeNBrocade	swapon -s	07:37
BladeNBrocade	Canaen: not sure u can always just uninstall the 2.4	07:37
Canaen	mmk	07:37
w-heat	quick question: I have 3 machines to upgrade when 9.04 is released; what would be the best way of doing this? Will there be a CD image that supports upgrade or do I have to apt on each box?	07:37
celthunder	BladeNBrocade, can i pm you ?	07:37
BladeNBrocade	celthunder: why not	07:38
Flannel	w-heat: You can use the alternate CD to upgrade, yes. But, also, if you have three boxes, have you looked into apt-proxy?	07:38
ssn	hi guys	07:38
jbu	Is there a way to upgrade to 9.04 without deleting the files on the partition?	07:39
ssn	could it be that jaunty is late?	07:39
Flannel	jbu: Of course. Regular upgrade proceures.	07:39
Orlsend	Maybe ssn.	07:39
Flannel	!upgrade \| jbu	07:39
ubottu	jbu: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	07:39
w-heat	Flannel: thanls for the link	07:39
kenyon	w-heat: I'd just use aptitude or whatever the upgrade guide says if they have decent internet connections to their sources.list mirrors.	07:39
jbu	thanks	07:39
ssn	Somehow, the release candidate does not detect my raid	07:39
Flannel	ssn: Please join #ubuntu-release-party for the countdown/anticipation/etc	07:39
ssn	ok	07:40
w-heat	kenyon: yeah, I just anticipated that the load was going to be high	07:40
kenyon	w-heat: Ah, true.	07:40
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	07:40
neil_d	it seems that the flash player (e.g. youtube) has no sound :( can anyone help?	07:41
CaneToad	neil_d: is any sound working for you at all?	07:41
joshux	when	07:41
ActionParsnip	neil_d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=964165	07:42
joshux	!9.04	07:42
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	07:42
ActionParsnip	neil_d: http://tech.mikelopez.info/2008/12/13/no-sound-in-flash-in-ubuntu-intrepid/	07:42
Aperculum	big day, today \o/	07:42
Orlsend	whats the channel for the realease party?	07:42
Flannel	Orlsend: #ubuntu-release-party	07:43
Orlsend	thanks	07:43
neil_d	CaneToad: yes! vlc plays a DVD ok	07:43
Aperculum	Flannel: I thought you were joking before I joined there :)	07:43
jbu	Flannel, but if I wanted to change to ext4 (I have ext3 now) I couldn't just upgrade? I'd have to do a clean install?	07:45
Flannel	jbu: I believe you can.	07:46
CaneToad	neil_d, I have Ubuntu 8.10 and by default it comes set up with pulse audio, but pulse audio at least with the default settings is really badly broken. My sound has been behaving very nicely since I followed the instructions at http://blog.jayway.com/2008/11/10/getting-sound-to-work-on-ubuntu-810ut/	07:46
ActionParsnip	!sound	07:47
ubottu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	07:47
neil_d	CaneToad: ok having a look now.	07:47
levon_	i need help getting my micro innovations web cam to work. could someone lend a hand thank you	07:47
Code_Bleu	when is 9.04 actually going to be up for download?	07:48
chronicpirate	anybody know of any sort of announce chan for the ubuntu torrents	07:48
Flannel	Code_Bleu: Sometime within the next 27 hours. #ubuntu-release party, Also chronicpirate.	07:48
chronicpirate	so I can set my highlights for irc	07:48
Flannel	chronicpirate: subscribe to the ubuntu-announce mailing list.	07:48
Code_Bleu	will 'sudo update-manager -d' work on the beta and RC versions once the final release is out?	07:49
gartral2	how do i rotate my monitor's output, the monitor has a swivel, but i cant rotate	07:49
Flannel	Code_Bleu: you don't need the -d once you're on the RC/beta	07:49
Code_Bleu	Flannel: 27 hours? I thought it was released today 23rd?	07:49
chronicpirate	delays make me sad	07:50
Flannel	Code_Bleu: Come to #ubuntu-release-party	07:50
gartral2	Code_Bleu: for half the world, that IS the 23rd	07:50
ActionParsnip	chronicpirate: due to time differences it'll get released all different times	07:51
chronicpirate	:o	07:51
chronicpirate	so then for my time zone will it be out at midnight?	07:51
chronicpirate	in like 10 mintues?	07:51
ActionParsnip	chronicpirate: easter island gets the biggest delays. I'm sure another 24 hours or so won't destroy your system	07:51
chronicpirate	probably not	07:51
chronicpirate	ActionParsnip: are you sure?	07:51
chronicpirate	it might	07:51
Flannel	chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party, not here. thanks.	07:52
jbu	well it'll get released at all different times if you consider that in different time zone's it's always a different time	07:52
ActionParsnip	chronicpirate: i severly doubt it, chillout dude. More important things in life to worry about than a software upgrade	07:52
chronicpirate	it doesn't seems to be out at all though	07:52
chronicpirate	if it were it would be on the torrents	07:52
chronicpirate	and only beta and rc are now :c	07:52
Flannel	chronicpirate: #ubuntu-release-party is the place for this discussion, not here. Please take it there.	07:52
blizzard_pro	nick	07:52
ActionParsnip	!nick	07:53
ubottu	Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode	07:53
maximo	question: how do I view the history of commands I have use on my system lately?	07:53
ActionParsnip	maximo: history	07:53
ActionParsnip	maximo: if you wish to rerun one of the commands, read the left hand column	07:53
maximo	ActionParsnip: how about the less?	07:53
ActionParsnip	maximo: then type !<number>	07:54
Code_Bleu	does anyone know if it is possible to install ubuntu on the "instant on" arm based processor, part of the new Dell latitude e4300 laptop?	07:54
blizzard_pro	#chan	07:54
Aggrav8d	hi, people! i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters. where do i find the bash script that is being run?	07:54
ActionParsnip	maximo: you can pipe it into less	07:54
blizzard_pro	#CHANNEL	07:54
maximo	ActionParsnip: thanks alot	07:54
ActionParsnip	maximo: you can also grep it	07:54
ActionParsnip	maximo: for example if you want to rerun command 400 then you would type: !400	07:54
maximo	Action grep / less / history	07:54
maximo	okay thanks	07:54
ActionParsnip	maximo: or you can do stuff like	07:54
ActionParsnip	maximo: history \| grep apt	07:55
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ActionParsnip	maximo: to see all the commands containing the word 'apt'	07:55
Geoffrey2	do I need to use a live CD or such if I want to resize /home?	07:55
maximo	ActionParsnip: neat	07:55
ActionParsnip	maximo: the default length is the lst 1000 commands you typed and it is stored in ~/.bash_history	07:55
Flannel	Geoffrey2: Yes, you can't resize a mounted partition.	07:55
ActionParsnip	maximo: makes rerunning commands easier	07:56
maximo	ActionParsnip: that is my problem when I went into linux (commands)	07:56
maximo	ActionParsnip: correct...shorter	07:56
ActionParsnip	maximo: there is a way to manipulate the list from CLI but ive never bothered (like inseting history lines and moving them around)	07:57
Code_Bleu	does ubuntu have a twitter account? that would be cool if they did and when the actual files are posted they could just tweet and then people who tweet, would know	07:57
Geoffrey2	and /home can't be unmounted unless I'm running from the live CD....got it	07:58
Flannel	Code_Bleu: We have an announce mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce But, this belongs in -release-party	07:58
* BladeNBrocade collapses		07:58
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maximo	ActionParsnip: I know by way of reading you all this and practising....	07:58
Flannel	!away > RoozbehOnline	07:58
ubottu	RoozbehOnline, please see my private message	07:58
ActionParsnip	Geoffrey2: if /home is on its own partition you can unmount it afaik, you will need to unmount any other partitions too if you are resizing into them, i recommend using the live cd for simplicity	07:59
ActionParsnip	maximo: best way	07:59
maximo	ActionParsnip: go ahead	07:59
gartral2	need to figure out monitor rotation...	08:00
karbo	is the version available through the update-manager the final version, or the rc?	08:00
xukun	I think this has bees asked one or twice but what time is the release of 9.04?	08:00
ActionParsnip	maximo: huh?	08:00
BladeNBrocade	does sudo cache the passwords of the user?	08:00
ActionParsnip	!isitout	08:00
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	08:00
xukun	ActionParsnip, thanks	08:00
ivoks	has it been released yet? :)	08:00
maximo	ActionParsnip: you know of school in toronto to learn linux (networking) ?	08:00
maximo	thanks	08:00
Flannel	BladeNBrocade: for 10 minutes by default. You can disable it if you'd like.	08:01
ActionParsnip	maximo: no idea an, sorry	08:01
BladeNBrocade	Flannel: yes yes i want to disable.. =)	08:01
ActionParsnip	*man	08:01
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maximo	ActionParsnip: on line if any?	08:01
Furu	Hi! does anyone know when today the 9.04 release is?:)	08:01
ActionParsnip	maximo: i'm sure they exist but you may have to dig around	08:01
Flannel	BladeNBrocade: May I ask why?	08:02
paul68	!isitout	08:02
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	08:02
ActionParsnip	paul68: i'd put that on clipboard for a day or so ;)	08:02
maximo	ActionParsnip: I see linuxquestions.org <----seems to be good one	08:02
BladeNBrocade	Flannel: where exactly does sudo cache this in memory? flat file? db file? im a little anal about that..	08:02
paul68	ActionParsnip: lol just a large popup when loging on to this channel would be more helpfull I guess	08:03
Flannel	BladeNBrocade: It doesn't cache the password. It just caches the fact that you have valid permissions.	08:03
BladeNBrocade	Flannel: i see	08:03
paul68	ActionParsnip: do you know how to become a registered ubuntu user?	08:03
BladeNBrocade	Flannel: very interesting	08:04
ActionParsnip	!register	08:04
ubottu	Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname . Registration help available in #freenode	08:04
ActionParsnip	paul68: other than that, no idea	08:04
paul68	ActionParsnip: ok thanks	08:04
KingKimi	!netboot > Kimi	08:04
ActionParsnip	paul68: i can't see it achieving much. I registered myself as a Linux user agaes ago. i think it was on distrowatch	08:04
ikonia	KingKimi: your account is kingkimi - not kimi	08:05
KingKimi	!netboot > KingKimi	08:05
ubottu	KingKimi, please see my private message	08:05
KingKimi	ikonia, thanks.. it was my habit.... but now i registered nick as kingkimi as kimi is already taken	08:05
paul68	ActionParsnip: ok no worries	08:06
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=== nood_in_arte_enr is now known as nood_enrico
Aggrav8d	please: i want to modify the /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd start to add some parameters. where do i find the bash script that is being run?	08:07
Aggrav8d	i mean, where do i find the line with the parameters?	08:08
rumpel	@ Aggrav8d it is a script itself	08:08
BladeNBrocade	Flannel: Defaultstimestamp_timeout = 0	08:08
BladeNBrocade	?	08:08
Flannel	BladeNBrocade: timestamp_timeout = 0	08:08
Flannel	BladeNBrocade: make sure you use visudo	08:08
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BladeNBrocade	Flannel: ofcourse dude.. lol	08:09
Aggrav8d	rumpel - i know .../init.d/pure-ftpd is a script, but i read it and couldn't find any mention of the parameters I wanted to change. do you know where i should look to find them?	08:09
ActionParsnip	!bum \| Aggrav8d	08:09
ubottu	Aggrav8d: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto	08:09
ActionParsnip	Aggrav8d: that may give some clues	08:09
gartral2	!info Nezuiz	08:10
ubottu	Package Nezuiz does not exist in intrepid	08:10
gartral2	whats the name of that game >.<	08:10
Gabz^laptop	Nexuiz ?	08:10
nspb	hayy	08:10
axsd9d	!nexuiz	08:10
ubottu	Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php	08:10
gartral2	!info Nexuiz	08:10
ubottu	Package Nexuiz does not exist in intrepid	08:10
ActionParsnip	gartral2: check out penumbra as well. Awesome game	08:11
ActionParsnip	gartral2: pretty scary stuff	08:11
gartral2	eh, not my style, whatss nexuiz like?	08:12
BladeNBrocade	starwars --> "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"	08:12
anglo	merci	08:14
blap	what do you guys believe the most used theme for emerald is?	08:14
sriramoman	what time will jaunty-ubuntu mostly be released	08:15
g4lt-lappy	Strider^, the same time that /topic states	08:15
g4lt-lappy	sriramoman, ^^^^^	08:15
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sriramoman	g4lt-lappy, it doesnt state the time...	08:16
sriramoman	oh sorry	08:16
DaveWM	how would i go about installing just a base system of the ubuntu install, so basically i'd have a basic shell and apt-get to work my way up to a custom install ?	08:17
DaveWM	i've done it with debian plenty of times, but i'm thinking of making the switch	08:17
* sriramoman is eagerly waiting for jaunty's release		08:18
g4lt-lappy	DaveWM, try the server install, it's about as stripped as you can get	08:18
Flannel	DaveWM: Grab the alternate CD. From the alternate CD you can do a "command line only" install, and then you can install whatever GUI, etc you want ontop of it.	08:18
DaveWM	kewl	08:18
kjkjl	my desktop effects are not functioning. so i want to know if a program like blender which might use alot of graphics will it work in my ubuntu.	08:18
DaveWM	friend of mine just linked me to this "Ubuntu 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex" Minimal CD 9.9MB"	08:18
chordogg	g4lt-lappy: server install has tweaks to the kernel that might not be suitable for desktop installations, no?	08:18
DaveWM	that may be about what i need i suppose	08:19
DaveWM	heh	08:19
Flannel	DaveWM: The primary mode of the alternate CD installs a standard desktop system, command line only is... under an f4 or f5 menu at boot.	08:19
Roman	jfjf	08:19
raseel	@DaveWM: Can you share that link	08:19
Flannel	DaveWM: minimal will work too. It's just the alternate CD without the packages on the CD itself.	08:19
Flannel	!minimal \| DaveWM, raseel	08:19
ubottu	DaveWM, raseel: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD	08:19
DaveWM	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD	08:19
Roman	does anyone know how to convert a .ogg file into a mp4 file	08:19
g4lt-lappy	chordogg, given most "servers" you see in production aare just recycled desktops, no	08:19
DaveWM	yeah, which is pretty much what i wanted	08:19
raseel	ubottu: Oh.. It's like a netinstall CD ?	08:20
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	08:20
gartral2	roman, what are you throwing the music into that it needs to be mp4, an ipod?	08:20
DaveWM	cause atm, when i install debian, i use the netinst, and skip the install tasks at the end, which leaves me with base system, networking, apt...	08:20
chordogg	g4lt-lappy: i read that the ubuntu kernel for servers modifies the scheduler, and such	08:20
kjkjl	how do i know if blender would work in my system wothout risking a crash	08:20
g4lt-lappy	chordate, so does medibuntu, and that's for desktops...	08:20
jdownie	what's the eta of the 9.04 torrent being seeded?	08:21
Flannel	jdownie: Sometime before its the 24th everywhere.	08:21
kjkjl	how do i know if a program would work in ubuntu without risking a crash	08:21
chordogg	g4lt-lappy: interesting	08:21
Flannel	DaveWM: The minimal (and alternate) CD uses debian-installer, so you can get into expert mode and do it all that way if you'd like as well.	08:22
kjkjl	help	08:22
DaveWM	sweet	08:22
DaveWM	to be honest, i'd been bad mouthing ubuntu along with others for a while... and really the only reason is that i find the standard install a bit bloated... which isnt really a good reason, cause most distributions fall under that category with a default installation	08:23
DaveWM	and its apparent that ubuntu repo's rule, and you can find information specifically reguarding ubuntu much easier than any other distribution	08:23
DaveWM	heh	08:23
* g4lt-lappy typically recommends "install everything and the kitchen sink" unless you know what you're doing		08:23
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: i find the standard install bloated too, I have a script to wrench about half the installed apps	08:24
raseel	The update-manager shows "9.04" is available, is this the RC or the final release ?	08:24
DaveWM	yeah	08:24
chronicpirate	DaveWM: you can alsways remove packages you don't want to make it not bloated.	08:24
chronicpirate	of course you might as well just install clean debian if you wanna do that :\	08:24
DaveWM	i've been more of a windows geek for years, and windows is the king of bloat, so i think i should ease up on ubuntu	08:24
DaveWM	hehe	08:24
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: most of the stuff is standard, like configuring apache will be identical in all linuxes	08:25
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: and samba	08:25
DaveWM	yeah, clean debian is ok, but its nice to have ubuntu's support at hand	08:25
DaveWM	heh	08:25
chronicpirate	meh windows isnt THAT bloated if you install it yourself and don't buy it pre-installed with all the other crap pc companies wanna throw at you	08:25
DaveWM	i dunno, i've found a ton of things that i can rip out of a basic windows install	08:26
DaveWM	and alot of things to disable as well	08:26
DaveWM	heh	08:26
ActionParsnip	chronicpirate: a standard vista install takes 7Gb	08:26
chronicpirate	DaveWM: true... but any type of issue you're having with debian the ubuntu team could help with	08:26
chronicpirate	ubuntu == debian with packages pre-installed	08:26
zipper	DaveWM, You could always install ubuntu using the alternative cd. That allows you to do a very minimal install and then pick each of the packages you want afterwards	08:26
chronicpirate	anyway you'd go about troubleshooting is essentially the same	08:26
ActionParsnip	chronicpirate: my ubuntu + office productivity +a whole slew of stuff vista doesnt have....2.6Gb	08:26
chronicpirate	expecially since 99% of the time they make you do terminal commands to fix things	08:26
SealedWithAKiss	I'm using Ubuntu 8.04. When trying to play music using Frostwire for example, whilst YouTube is open, the sound doesn't work. And when trying to play YouTube videos, if another application that produces audio output is running, YouTube doesn't work. It's almost as though you can only have one sound output application open at a time. Does anybody know why this might be? Or how I can go about resolving it?	08:26
DaveWM	right, i understand that, but i still have a place for debian when i need the most minimal setup, but i'm just saying i'm gonna give ubuntu a go with some customizing	08:27
viro	hey guys is it dumb to think dvr comes with this bundle ? http://www.quicksnapper.com/viro/image/untitled	08:27
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: if you want minimal, try xpud	08:27
viro	random turtle!	08:27
zipper	I hear LFS is pretty minimal....	08:27
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: boots in 4 seconds here	08:27
SealedWithAKiss	In continuation, sometimes the sound screws up altogether, and doesn't work until I reboot.	08:27
gartral2	TinyCORE!	08:27
Flannel	!offtopic	08:28
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	08:28
DaveWM	dude, that's actually pretty neat looking, i'm always looking or distributions like that to play around with	08:28
ronald1	Hello to all. Short question: the countdown for 9.0.4 was 0 today. What does "comming soon" mean? Later Today, Tomorrow or later	08:28
DaveWM	that does look ideal for making an old junk box into something useful	08:28
DaveWM	heh	08:28
DaveWM	xpud that is	08:28
DaveWM	never heard of it before	08:28
zaggynl	SealedWithAKiss: sounds like the mixer part of your sound system isn't working	08:28
zipper	ronald1, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P	08:28
zaggynl	!mixer	08:28
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mixer	08:28
DaveWM	i'll check that out for sure	08:29
gartral2	theres also the ubuntu fork, crunchbang...	08:29
SealedWithAKiss	zaggynl, how would I go about resolving that?	08:29
silver_swords	where's 9.04 ?	08:29
DaveWM	that might be neat as an extra boot option on my eee pc for when all i wanna do is browse or play media	08:29
zipper	silver_swords, i see you did a great job on reading the topic =P	08:29
steveccc	silver_swords: i was just thinking the same thing - do we have to wait for the whole world to enter the 23rd before the files appear?	08:29
zaggynl	SealedWithAKiss: sound mixing can be done by software, audiopulse or even alsa has that afaik, I'd try searching the ubuntuforums with your soundcard info in the query	08:29
ActionParsnip	DaveWM: true, its a bit young yet but keep an eye on it	08:29
Flannel	silver_swords, ronald1: It'll be released at some point within the next 27 hours. Please join #ubuntu-release-party to keep track.	08:29
DaveWM	yeah	08:29
Flannel	zipper: Please be polite.	08:30
DaveWM	what's the one i'm thinking...	08:30
DaveWM	gimme a sec	08:30
silver_swords	thnx	08:30
zipper	Flannel, I am being polite. I'm just stating the obvious	08:30
DaveWM	kind of makes me think of gOS	08:30
Flannel	zipper: Alright, lets try this then: Don't be a dick.	08:30
DaveWM	which i havent tried either	08:30
DaveWM	browser based OS is what it looks like from description	08:31
steveccc	zipper: i didnt see a problem in your comment	08:31
ronald1	@Flannel Thanks! @zipper it would me a good one to set the info from Flannel in the topic!	08:32
g4lt-lappy	Flannel, taht's nice advice, when were you planning on following it yourself?	08:33
ActionParsnip	haha	08:34
Flannel	ActionParsnip: that's not necessary.	08:34
SealedWithAKiss	zaggynl, thanks.	08:36
Falstaf	Is Ubuntu 9.04 ready yet?	08:37
ActionParsnip	what are hard drive reserved blocks actually for?	08:37
sdakpos	Falstaf: read topic	08:37
ActionParsnip	!isitout	08:37
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	08:37
BIGSEX	hey guys	08:37
BIGSEX	anyone here dual boot with XP?	08:38
linny	has 9.04 been delayed ?	08:38
ActionParsnip	!anyone \| BIGSEX	08:38
ubottu	BIGSEX: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	08:38
Linuxrevolution	hi all	08:38
Linuxrevolution	how to convert WMA to MP3?	08:38
Kanilla	you use google	08:38
Anklar	hali	08:38
BIGSEX	How much disk space do you need to partition off to install ubuntu with XP?	08:38
ActionParsnip	Linuxrevolution: i'd imagine mencoder would play a big part	08:39
ActionParsnip	Kanilla: you could answer any question with that	08:39
chronicpirate	ummm.. I'd say 7GB is pretty decnet size + 1-3GB for swap	08:39
linny	Linuxrevolution: http://kozgun.net/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.Wma2Mp3 any help ?	08:39
chronicpirate	depedning on how much you're going to install on it	08:39
Kanilla	ActionParsnip: yes, yes you could	08:39
BIGSEX	thanks chron	08:39
Linuxrevolution	ActionParsnip: whats mencoder?	08:39
chronicpirate	sure :)	08:39
ActionParsnip	Kanilla: so saying it is moot, and not helpful	08:39
BIGSEX	woudl you recommend guided install?	08:39
ActionParsnip	!info mencoder	08:39
ubottu	mencoder (source: mplayer): MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu17 (intrepid), package size 3681 kB, installed size 8544 kB	08:39
BIGSEX	where linux finds the partition/sets it up for you	08:39
BIGSEX	or would you suggest doing it manually?	08:39
Linuxrevolution	linny: oh thanks let me try it	08:39
chronicpirate	ummmm.. not nessiceraly	08:39
ActionParsnip	Linuxrevolution: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793	08:40
linny	linux make sure you have ffmpeg installed	08:40
Linuxrevolution	ActionParsnip: thanks alot	08:40
chronicpirate	first you ABSOUTLY must defrag windows to a point were ALL off it's data is continous	08:40
chronicpirate	as in the partition you cut off the end of the windows one will not have any thing on it	08:40
BIGSEX	absolutely	08:40
chronicpirate	or it will fuck you royaly	08:40
linny	#	08:40
BIGSEX	i'm doing it on my old computer in case i do in fact fuck myself in a royal fashion	08:41
Flannel	chronicpirate: Please mind your language.	08:41
gypsymauro	hi	08:41
kj4	hello all	08:41
BIGSEX	woops	08:41
chronicpirate	and if you know what you're doing I wouldn't use the guided	08:41
ActionParsnip	i personally recommend a clean install with intelligent partitioning of windows to leave free space for ubuntu	08:41
chronicpirate	oh sorry	08:41
BIGSEX	ok	08:41
kj4	when can I download intrepid ignoramus?	08:41
chronicpirate	I've done it with windows on there aready	08:41
BIGSEX	and no problems?	08:41
kj4	i'm sure thats the question of the evening	08:41
Madpilot	BIGSEX, mind finding a nick that doesn't offend, pls?	08:41
chronicpirate	but I knew hwat I was doing	08:41
chronicpirate	really not that hard	08:41
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chronicpirate	you just use the partioin app in the live boot version and cut off the end of your windows partition	08:41
LARGEFAMILYGETTO	there we go	08:41
LARGEFAMILYGETTO	woops	08:42
LARGEFAMILYGETTO	that failed	08:42
Linuxrevolution	linny: there is a problem here	08:42
kj4	LARGEFAMILYGETTO, i'm offended	08:42
gypsymauro	I know it's a silly question but on saturday we have a Free Software event so I want to prepare 5 notebook with the latest ubuntu (9.04) and I know that tomorrow and the other days the download will be impossible.. is the RC the nearest version of the final one? or there are daily snapshots?	08:42
Linuxrevolution	linny: Error while decoding stream #0.0	08:42
LARGEFAMILYGETTO	its supposed to say large family get together	08:42
chronicpirate	mount it to like /mount/windows and then the root to / and oh yeah make a bit off the endo f your new partition to be swap and set it to /swap	08:42
Kanilla	i think getto is better	08:42
chronicpirate	but It wouldn't be a bad idea to do it all clean	08:42
Madpilot	gypsymauro, if you installed the RC then updated, you'd get the final	08:42
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St3v3	alright	08:43
St3v3	thanks a lot chronic	08:43
kj4	Madpilot, are you sure bout dat?	08:43
chronicpirate	heh no wories	08:43
Linuxrevolution	ActionParsnip: I've seen this page in ubuntuforums but when I convert file output is just a 5 KB file size :/	08:43
chronicpirate	if it fucks up you're no worse off then doing fresh anyway :D	08:43
Madpilot	kj4, yes.	08:43
chronicpirate	that's the good news	08:43
chronicpirate	oh god	08:43
St3v3	that's true	08:43
FloodBot2	chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:43
kj4	when can i downlaod the release?	08:43
Seeker`	!language \| chronicpirate	08:44
ubottu	chronicpirate: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	08:44
sdakpos	tomorrow	08:44
St3v3	man, the moderating is intense here	08:44
chronicpirate	sorry it's hard to stop cussing.. most of the networks I use don't mind :)	08:44
kj4	what time tomorrow?	08:44
St3v3	chron, have you tried running a liveUSB at all?	08:44
chronicpirate	St3v3: nope	08:44
Madpilot	St3v3, it's a release day and there's 1500 in this channel. Normally it's a bit more relaxed...	08:44
sdakpos	kj4: tomorrow.. anytime.. because it will be available sometime today	08:44
kj4	bye you bastidges	08:44
St3v3	Mad:fair enough, thanks for the info	08:45
Linuxrevolution	linny: ffmpeg is installed	08:45
chronicpirate	only problem with that is the mobo on the computer you're using has to both be able to boot from usb and have it set to boot from that before a hdd	08:45
chronicpirate	so if it's your own thing it's fine	08:45
St3v3	chron: right, i've read a ton about it, and i've tried it, my comp is completely capable of booting from a USB but it still says that theres no OS on the pen drive	08:45
chronicpirate	but if you like wanna take it on the go for troubleshooting for work/fun or to use it at public places like school it might not work	08:45
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chronicpirate	hmmm	08:46
chronicpirate	don't know then.. I've never tried it myself	08:46
sdakpos	kj4: what does it mean? as you can guess i'm not a native english speaker ;p	08:46
St3v3	yeah, i was hoping it'd be easier than it is, i just wanna try the OS out for a while with a persistent install before i go headfirst and possibly erase a hard drive	08:46
chronicpirate	St3v3: you just thowing an iso on there or you actually installing it there	08:46
St3v3	just putting the iso on	08:47
ActionParsnip	Linuxrevolution: you need something like that. Try: http://freshmeat.net/projects/audio-convert	08:47
chronicpirate	that's your problem	08:47
St3v3	well i mean	08:47
chronicpirate	it's a file that way	08:47
St3v3	right	08:47
chronicpirate	your usb stick won't mount it like it were a physical drive	08:47
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St3v3	i used the tool in ubuntu that makes a liveUSB which basically works like the liveCD but with a persistence loop	08:47
chronicpirate	neither will your mobo more the leiky	08:47
Adalid_Negro	i have 9.04	08:47
storhaug3	JAUNTY!!!!	08:47
chronicpirate	I think you can actually install it to the external device	08:47
gypsymauro	Adalid_Negro: ?	08:48
Adalid_Negro	yes you can obtain yet?	08:48
Guest82508	i guys...i have ubuntu 8.10 on my desktop and ubuntu 8.4 on my laptop.....in ubuntu 8.10 if i set the terminal background ad "transparent" i can see the underground windows ( not only the wallpaper) how can i do the same in ubuntu 8.4????	08:48
St3v3	i've considered that, but i read it eventually krushes your stick from overuse	08:48
Adalid_Negro	i has downloadthis =)	08:48
chronicpirate	O_o	08:48
Flannel	!jaunty \| Adalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug3	08:48
ubottu	Adalid_Negro, gypsymauro, storhaug3: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	08:48
sdakpos	kj4: and actuallty if you have older version of ubuntu you can run update-manager -d to update to 9.04	08:48
chronicpirate	it wouldn't be any worse then what you're doing dude	08:48
Linuxrevolution	ActionParsnip: hmmmmmmmmm I'll try it	08:48
chronicpirate	be it an installed os or an image your computer sitll reads from it the same	08:48
storhaug3	aah thank you for pointing me to #ubuntu-release-party	08:49
chronicpirate	when you use a live disk it accesses the dvd/cd just as if it were on a hdd	08:49
St3v3	fair enough, wouldn't a 4gb stick be pushing it a little though?	08:49
chronicpirate	that's why it's all so slo	08:49
Adalid_Negro	i have iso (not RC)	08:49
chronicpirate	na man	08:49
chronicpirate	it would be basically the exact same thing	08:49
St3v3	sweeeet	08:49
chronicpirate	but you could actualy save stuff	08:49
ActionParsnip	St3v3: my / partition is only using 2.6Gb	08:49
chronicpirate	and not start from scratch every time	08:49
St3v3	right	08:49
St3v3	well	08:49
St3v3	the liveUSB thing actually has a persistence loop so it saves changes	08:50
chronicpirate	ohhh	08:50
Adalid_Negro	well nowhere taht lke the new iso...?	08:50
chronicpirate	I see	08:50
ActionParsnip	St3v3: just remember to read through dpkg -l \| less	08:50
St3v3	but	08:50
Flannel	Adalid_Negro: This channel is not for the discussion of the release of Jaunty. Please head to the appropriate channel. Also, 9.04 is not released yet. Thanks.	08:50
storhaug3	Adalid_Negro: the latest daily release is probably the same as 9.04 final if you want it that bad	08:50
ActionParsnip	St3v3: and remove all the stuff you dont use	08:50
kjkjl	actionparsnip any idea about how to check if the drivers are installed properly	08:50
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: sudo lshw -C <something>	08:50
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: depends for what piece of hardware	08:50
kjkjl	is there any reference for these commands	08:51
Adalid_Negro	sorry flanel, i can obtain a copy and i would help	08:51
chronicpirate	I'd try an actual install on the stick cause even so it's still going to access it the same weahter it's live or actually installed on there	08:51
St3v3	alright, i'll definitely try that, that's the only reason i bought that stick anyways	08:51
chronicpirate	and flash memory is really realiable so you'd have to use it a LOT to wear it out	08:51
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: man <command>	08:51
St3v3	awesome	08:51
kjkjl	actionparsnip i am unable to enable desktop effects inubuntu so wondering whats wrong with my computer	08:52
chronicpirate	I mena I sill have ps2/1 memory cards that are running perfect and those are like 6=7 years old	08:52
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: theres even man man but no man woman	08:52
St3v3	if i do a full install on the stick don't i have to change some advanced option at the end regarding where the GRUB goes?	08:52
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: you need to install video drivers	08:52
chronicpirate	St3v3: not sure. never done it myself but I would assume so	08:52
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: what is the output of lspci \| grep -i vga	08:52
chronicpirate	I recall there being an "Install to external device" option but I might be wrong	08:52
ActionParsnip	!usb	08:52
ubottu	For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	08:52
St3v3	oh man	08:53
chronicpirate	there you go	08:53
St3v3	e-help	08:53
sdakpos	http://byy.pl/Ubuntu904/	08:53
ActionParsnip	St3v3: you can pay for phone help if you wish	08:53
St3v3	nah, i'm good, just wanted to see if there was more info on it. i'm just trying to exhaust every option short of dual booting for now	08:54
chronicpirate	St3v3: you got more then one HDD?	08:54
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ActionParsnip	St3v3: well, why do you need XP?	08:54
kjkjl	actionparsnip 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)	08:54
St3v3	chron: no, i don't. i'm thinking about "dual booting" by using an external eventually	08:54
ActionParsnip	kjkjl: ok now you have that you can websearch how to set it up	08:55
ActionParsnip	i gotta go check some web interfaces real quick	08:55
St3v3	and AP: i've been using windows all my life and all of my work is on it, i'm not ready to just throw it all out the window	08:55
chronicpirate	I still got windows for games	08:55
St3v3	exactly	08:55
chronicpirate	I don't care if you CAN get them to run on linux either	08:55
chronicpirate	they still don't run as well as natively	08:56
St3v3	i couldn't agree more. i mostly need linux to run some crazy fmri software. everything else is staying on windows	08:56
DaveWM	ok, so i'm looking for an ubuntu flavor to put on a eee pc 901 that i just purchased for my mom, there's so many netbook/mobile versions i don't know what to go with, i just know she needs something intuitive and easy to use, so far i'm stuck looking between eeebuntu, ubuntu UMPC, or easy peasy	08:56
St3v3	so i've heard	08:56
chronicpirate	and my old pc barely can run the games I got as it is	08:56
DaveWM	anybody got any experience with those? the interface os UMPC looks really nice	08:56
DaveWM	os=of	08:56
St3v3	you're tellin me, the laptop i'm trying to dualboot with has a 60gb (upgraded) hard drive and a broken fan. that's class.	08:57
chronicpirate	oh nice	08:57
St3v3	it struggled to run tribes 2	08:57
St3v3	if that gives you any indication	08:57
ssn	does anyone know how to restore grub if all linux partitions are deleted (just windows left)?	08:57
chronicpirate	like I said though you should just try the dual boot what I told ya earlier.. if it messes up you're no worse off then doing it fresh :)	08:57
St3v3	absolutely, thanks so much for the advice chron	08:58
chronicpirate	so long as you make sure it's properly defragged and you don't mount the windows drive to / when you install you're good	08:58
andreas	gkehg	08:58
andreas	russs	08:58
andreas	rtuu	08:58
andreas	wwww4eyu	08:58
andreas	ruujWSE	08:58
FloodBot2	andreas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	08:58
chronicpirate	even if something goes awry you sill have your windows data and can use fixmbr to get it back	08:58
chronicpirate	most cases anyway	08:59
St3v3	haha, from what i've read it sounds like when you screw with the MBR a little things get all wild	08:59
chronicpirate	na.. sometimes grub can mess up but if you use windows xp as a boot disk and fix your mbr it's good as new	09:00
ssn	chronicpirate: its vista and i dont have a windows boot cd at hand	09:00
kjkjl	in the terminal it say press return but thre is no return labelled key on my keyboard	09:01
chronicpirate	if you know hwat you're doing you can even manually edit your boot.ini file using ubuntu live after it's already installed to it's own partitin and set up dual boot hat way	09:01
chronicpirate	oh	09:01
chronicpirate	wait?	09:01
chronicpirate	ssn?	09:01
ssn	how do i restore the mbr with knoppix and doesnt this make things worse?	09:01
FloodBot2	chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:01
ssn	chronicpirate: yes?	09:01
ipatel	quick ? guys.... any news on 9.04 (meant to be released today)	09:01
chronicpirate	St3v3 didn't change his nick	09:01
chronicpirate	ssn: um I wasn't really talking to you but I don't know	09:01
chronicpirate	don't use vista	09:01
chronicpirate	might use windows 7 but xp is my choice for now	09:02
kjkjl	what is the return key	09:02
ssn	chronicpirate: i have to (you can by me a mac if you want to)	09:02
linny	i have rtorrent running in a dedicated server under the user rt the files go to /home/rt/torrents/done/ how can i make it so new files written in here by rtorrent can be deleted via the wtorrent frontend atm i can only delete them via ssh sudo	09:02
St3v3	i'm running vista on this machine, but the one i'd dual booting with is XP	09:02
Nytrix	was not ubuntu 9.04 suppose to be released on the 22nd of this month?	09:02
chronicpirate	ssn: http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/microsoft-public-windows-vista-general/26168-fix-mbr-vista.html	09:02
chronicpirate	that should help	09:02
Flannel	!party \| Nytrix	09:03
ubottu	Nytrix: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	09:03
ssn	chronicpirate: i have no X	09:03
chronicpirate	Nytrix: it was the 23rd actually	09:03
kjkjl	chronicpirate what is the return key	09:03
linny	Nytrix: 23rd it was	09:03
ssn	since my knoppix is broken	09:03
ssn	cann you tell me what it says?	09:03
chronicpirate	no X?	09:03
chronicpirate	oh	09:03
chronicpirate	lol	09:03
chronicpirate	I got ya	09:03
ssn	knoppix from usb stick	09:03
FloodBot2	chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:03
linny	you guys know what day it is	09:03
chronicpirate	you need to use your vista disk	09:03
ssn	no X anymore after apt-get upgrade	09:03
ssn	hm	09:03
linny	ITS ST GEORGES DAY !	09:03
kjkjl	ubottu what is the retun key	09:04
linny	:)	09:04
ubottu	I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	09:04
kjkjl	ubottu what is the return key	09:04
St3v3	is that a serious question?	09:04
chronicpirate	or	09:04
chronicpirate	Bootrec.exe /FixMbr	09:04
chronicpirate	Bootrec.exe /FixBoot	09:04
chronicpirate	Bootrec.exe /ScanOs	09:04
chronicpirate	Bootrec.exe /RebuildBcd	09:04
FloodBot2	chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	09:04
chronicpirate	+	09:04
chronicpirate	sorry meant to pm that all	09:04
FloodBot2	!netsplit	09:04
ubottu	netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit	09:04
ssn	chronicpirate: thx. now if i had the vista boot disk at hand :D	09:05
Shaboo	Can anyone tell me what time .... kidding, actually I was wondering if anyone could tell me if there's a way to power a usb device on and off from the commandline. I have a 3g modem that get's stuck and I want to create a script that re-powerd it when it fies	09:05
chronicpirate	lol... yeah you need the repair console	09:05
chronicpirate	or whatever	09:05
kjkjl	is backspace and return key the same	09:05
ZhouYu	i am trying to zip a svn folder... i am using "zip -r test.zip svnfolder" .. but when i download it, it said that Cannot create PHP Cake.tmbundle\Snippets\$html->getCrumbs(GǪ).tmSnippet	09:05
maximo	http://www.ubuntu.com/comingsoon	09:05
St3v3	kjkjl:	09:05
ZhouYu	i meant when i extracted it	09:05
St3v3	NO	09:05
ssn	i hate windows :D but it is jauntys fault really	09:05
ssn	the rc messed up my old install	09:05
kjkjl	st3v3 what is the return key	09:06
St3v3	i personally like windows... and i like vista... oh god	09:06
St3v3	return key=enter key	09:06
kj4	kjkjl your nick is one off from my callsign	09:06
ipatel	quit	09:06
Rapachooie	aloha all	09:06
kjkjl	kj4 i dont understand what u said	09:06
Rapachooie	probably asked a million times but...	09:06
chronicpirate	oh here it comes	09:06
chronicpirate	don't ask	09:06
ziroday	Rapachooie: join the party in #ubuntu-release-party	09:06
kj4	kjkjl my ham callsign is KJ4KJL	09:06
Rapachooie	:)	09:07
chronicpirate	you're gonna delay the release for an hour	09:07
Rapachooie	lol	09:07
BladeNBrocade	s/dows/blows/g	09:07
Rapachooie	alright ill shuttup and wait like everyone else :D cheers	09:07
kjkjl	kj4 does ham mean hamradio	09:07
marcusdavidus	hello can i ask aboute jaunty ehere sience today realese?	09:07
chronicpirate	oh wait .. that's in release-party	09:07
chronicpirate	not here	09:07
geophoenix	hello everyone	09:07
Z_o-s-o	join #releaseparty	09:08
marcusdavidus	chronicpirate: but i got nasty critical stupid video choppy bug	09:08
ttmrichter	Is there any way to tell the Linux kernel to restrict the amount of RAM an individual application can use? Firefox is leaking memory like a sieve and I'd like to finally just put a hard restriction on what it can take.	09:08
geophoenix	ubuntu+1 isn't for the release ?	09:08
chronicpirate	try #ubuntu-release-party	09:08
Z_o-s-o	ahh thats the one	09:08
Z_o-s-o	my bad	09:08
chronicpirate	:P	09:08
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ipatel	quit	09:09
ZhouYu	why my zip file change a dot (.) into some weird characters ?	09:11
gordonjcp	ttmrichter: ulimit possibly?	09:11
timfrost	geophoenix: no, #ubuntu+1 will disappear once jaunty is official, because it is the channel for support of the development release	09:12
ipatel	meta-k	09:12
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alesan	timfrost, so after jaunty they will stop ubuntu development?	09:12
celthunder	alesan, no	09:13
ttmrichter	gordonjcp: Interesting. That's a shell built-in, right? How would I go about invoking it from a desktop icon?	09:13
kmkmkjd	what time will 9.4 be released?	09:13
ipatel	help	09:13
alesan	celthunder, so can you explain timfrost's statement?	09:13
rm-f	no hes saying that after it is officially released they would close that room.. as that room is devoted to the development version	09:13
ziroday	kmkmkjd: never at this rate, join the part in #ubuntu-release-party	09:13
timfrost	try '/j #release-party' (w/o quotes) to join the release party,	09:13
ziroday	timfrost: the place is #ubuntu-release-party	09:14
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alesan	rm-f, that implies ubuntu development will stop	09:14
celthunder	alesan, the channel for jaunty will become this one and then there WILL BE no new version yet so they cant have a ubuntu+1 channel when there is no beta out for the next release once a new beta is available they will reopen +1 channel	09:14
Flannel	alesan: They stop development for about a month.	09:14
etb	hi, anyone used google gadgets? how do i install a .gg gadget/	09:14
etb	?	09:14
alesan	Flannel, that explains everything	09:15
ziroday	etb: using screenlets or google gadgets.	09:15
alesan	Flannel, has Mark announced +2 yet?	09:15
timfrost	alesan: thanks. No wonder #release-party is deserted	09:15
Flannel	alesan: Karmic Koala?	09:15
alesan	Flannel, I mean K* ?	09:15
ziroday	alesan: you mean karmic?	09:15
james7493	alesan: Immediately after jaunty gets released there is no development version to support, since nothing would be done yet. +2 is Karmic Koala, it has been announced.	09:15
etb	ziroday: yeah using google gadgets. how?	09:15
ziroday	etb: I have no idea, never used them	09:15
alesan	Flannel, I guess the answer is yes then :) do you have a handy link to the announcement?	09:16
Aeosynth	does anyone know what time 9.04 will be released?	09:16
ziroday	Aeosynth: never, join the party in #ubuntu-release-party	09:16
Flannel	alesan: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2009-February/000536.html	09:16
alesan	thanks	09:16
ziroday	alesan: you might also want to read through mark shuttleworths blog	09:16
Maximo	Aeosynth: it just say on the website ---> coming soon	09:16
Aeosynth	Maximo: exactly. no timestamp.	09:18
kmkmkjd	anyone know if 9.4 comes with latest boost libs?	09:18
Maximo	Aeosynth: Exactly	09:18
Maximo	no time	09:18
GutZuWiSSeN	anyone know the system-monitor addon on the right side in this screenshot? http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=92197&file1=92197-1.jpg&file2=&file3=92197-3.jpg&name=BlackLine2	09:18
ziroday	There is no "set time", it will come out when its ready.	09:18
ziroday	GutZuWiSSeN: conky	09:19
Maximo	Aeosynth: just be patient you not going anywhere...just read the blog for timebeing	09:19
GutZuWiSSeN	ziroday: thx	09:19
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Enissay	Is there a way to change transmission's interface... personalise it?	09:22
ziroday	Enissay: no	09:22
Enissay	xD.... ok	09:22
ziroday	Enissay: but you can use a different bittorrent client if you would prefer. There are a quite a few	09:22
mandingoceo	can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810	09:23
chronicpirate	some people like to hate on it cause it uses a lot of memory as it's writen in java	09:23
Enissay	zined, I know... i'll try another one	09:23
chronicpirate	but azureus/vuze is actually pretty decent.. if you disable a bunch of features and use classic ui	09:23
chronicpirate	or you can always run ktorrent or utorrnet in wine	09:23
chronicpirate	in fact.. they just releases a osx beta	09:24
chronicpirate	that "might" run okay if you can get it to install	09:24
chronicpirate	max is just unix	09:24
Elika	Hello. Anyone know of any IRC channels relating to the series .hack// ?	09:24
pjfry1	I was just at the 9.04 release party channel but I can't remember the name ... would someone post it for me,	09:24
chronicpirate	#ubuntu-release-party	09:24
mandingoceo	can any1 help me with an issue with my sound card i keep loosing it under 810	09:24
groppo	join #ubuntu-release-party	09:24
Elika	Thank you.	09:25
fabzor3	mandingoceo: have you tried ununstalling pluseaudio in synaptic?	09:25
mandingoceo	no	09:26
fabzor3	i find pulseaudio caused problems with my alsa games	09:26
fabzor3	so yeah it might be worth a shot	09:26
mandingoceo	ill try it	09:26
fabzor3	gl	09:26
mandingoceo	1 reboot its there then next its gone	09:26
fabzor3	mandingoceo: whats gone?	09:27
Elika	I was suggested to the wrong room. I will have to make one of my own entitled #dothack//room	09:27
tool	does anyone have experience with mounting hard drives?	09:28
kjkjl	i typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel to get drivers and itis stuck at 49%.what do i do	09:28
kraut	moin	09:28
dn4	anyone know where I can get a free laptop with ubuntu on it?	09:28
_g0tmi1k_	lol	09:28
fabzor3	lolololo0l dn4	09:28
fabzor3	heaven?	09:28
kjkjl	dn4 free laptop???	09:28
chronicpirate	kjkjl: try removing it and installing it agian :\	09:28
chronicpirate	or just wait	09:28
mandingoceo	the sound card phonmon what ever it is reports that its unistalled	09:28
francis	how many do u want dn4?	09:28
dn4	just 1	09:28
francis	lol	09:29
un_dave	hi all	09:29
anooptp	hai everybody	09:29
francis	only 1 free laptop?	09:29
fabzor3	might be faulty hardware	09:29
dn4	francis, yeah I need one to write up my lab reports on the go	09:29
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fabzor3	free?!@!?!?!	09:29
anooptp	i have a sound problem	09:29
francis	lol	09:29
un_dave	i'm attempting to update an instance of 7.10 ubuntu, but getting lots of errors when i try to sudo apt-get update	09:29
fabzor3	i worked scrubbing the floor for 4 weeks to save up for my laptop	09:29
anooptp	pls help me	09:30
fabzor3	so good luck getting one for free	09:30
anooptp	is anybody there	09:30
corinth	!patience	09:30
ubottu	The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines	09:30
shadeslayer	anooptp: sure	09:30
corinth	!ask	09:30
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	09:30
* dn4 must assert patience with achieving a laptop without spending money on one		09:31
anooptp	shadeslaye i have a sound problem	09:31
alphanumeric123	so, jaunty's almost out	09:31
un_dave	it seems the servers are givign 404 errors, how can i update them ?	09:31
shadeslayer	anom01y: intel HDA?	09:31
Flannel	un_dave: Which version of Ubuntu are you using?	09:31
corinth	alphanumeric123: Jaunty won't be out for another week now	09:31
alphanumeric123	why?	09:32
anooptp	ich5	09:32
un_dave	the server i'm attempting to update is currently 7.10	09:32
corinth	J/k :-P	09:32
mede	hello everyone	09:32
un_dave	Flannel: ^	09:32
mede	any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server	09:32
shadeslayer	um no idea on that one	09:32
Flannel	un_dave: 7.10 reached EOL on april 18th. As far as I'm aware, the archive.ubuntu.com mirror is still up. You need to upgrade to 8.04 though, since you're not getting any updates.	09:32
lizzzzard	dn4: are you writing up your labs report for university? -- maybe they have laptops for students that you can use? my university borrows laptops to students for large projects.	09:33
anooptp	shadeslaye. no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected	09:33
tool	knowledge on hard drives,.. anyone?	09:33
Geoffrey2	I was using gparted, a resize operation didn't work, and now on startup I'm getting the following error message during during the disk check.... fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=187f9392-c391-4723-9251-8ad7505f8f2d'	09:33
un_dave	Flannel: i figured i'd apply the 7.10 updates first?	09:33
un_dave	Flannel: before i updated it to 8.04	09:33
Flannel	un_dave: Yes, you need to be up to date. Try switching your mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com	09:33
Geoffrey2	fsck died with exit status 8	09:33
anooptp	shadeslaye r u tere???	09:34
dn4	lizzzzard, yes; and yes they have that here as well	09:34
un_dave	Flannel: ok, will try that now	09:34
un_dave	brb	09:34
mede	any idea on how to config multi edubuntu server	09:34
shadeslayer	anooptp: yep	09:34
mede	any idea on how to config multi thin clinet server	09:34
shadeslayer	anooptp: try the wiki and forums too	09:34
rhavenw	hi,	09:34
mede	any idea on how to config multi thin client server	09:34
rhavenw	can someone point me in the best direction for connecting a pocketpc WM6 to a pc running ubuntu,	09:35
un_dave	Flannel: ok, i cant see any options to select the archive sources in the "Software Sources" dialoge	09:36
Flannel	un_dave: You may have to manually edit your sources.list	09:36
lizzzzard	dn4: that is the only way I can think of to get your hands on a free laptop -- though it would not technically be yours of course. If all else fails, you might want to consider a netbook like the asus eeepc, they are cheaper, but they are ok for simpler jobs like writing things down. And ubuntu runs fine on them with a few (well documented) tweaks.	09:36
shadeslayer	anooptp: btw did you try setting everything in the volume mixer to high? PCM and master?	09:36
dn4	sweet lizzzzard thanks for the info	09:37
un_dave	Flannel: ok, i'm fine with that. could you tell me what lines to add?	09:37
Flannel	un_dave: um, well, pastebin it, and we'll take a look.	09:37
dn4	lizzzzard, do you know of any tablets that ubuntu runs on nicely?	09:37
syntax\	guys, has anyone tried using pidgin to access openfire(xmpp) intranet messaging?	09:37
francis	macbook air	09:37
francis	:P	09:37
syntax\	im so soo lost.	09:38
_g0tmi1k_	lost wasnt on last night!	09:38
francis	:o	09:38
egoist	it was lost	09:38
alphanumeric123	anyone got the date for the final jaunty release? or is it like midnight tonight	09:38
Flannel	!isitout \| alphanumeric123	09:39
ubottu	alphanumeric123: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	09:39
alphanumeric123	ok	09:39
egoist	Well, there is a predetermined time, the 23rd?	09:39
alphanumeric123	!isitout \| Flannel	09:39
ubottu	Flannel: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	09:39
lizzzzard	uhh I have not considered a tablet pc, so I don't know any specific model. But if you consider buying one of those be sure to check out the ubuntu forums online to see what problems people are having. sometimes there are also wiki pages for a special type of notebook/tablet/netbook, I know there is one for the eeepc. Just google for the name of the device and ubuntu, that works pretty well for me	09:39
kjkjl	chronipirate u around	09:40
kjkjl	chronicpirate	09:41
lizzzzard	I love how you guys have macros for annoying questions, that sure beats getting unpatient and maybe unfriendly towards users	09:41
kjkjl	what is the meaning of ldconfig deferred processing now taking place	09:41
DaveWM	heh	09:42
ikonia	kjkjl: it's re-caching the libarary paths	09:42
dn4	W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560	09:42
dn4	any ideas on how to get a public key?	09:42
DaveWM	what kind of macro's are we talking here?	09:42
ikonia	DaveWM: key for what ?	09:43
ikonia	DaveWM: sorry	09:43
ikonia	dn4: key for what ?	09:43
kjkjl	ikonia i had typed sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel and afte several minutes it had showed that message that you explained. does that mean my driver si installed	09:43
dn4	The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2DC432B13A5CB560	09:43
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slytherin	dn4: it depends on which PPA you are using	09:43
dn4	http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio-dev/ppa/ubuntu/	09:43
un_dave	Flannel: still there? pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6	09:44
ikonia	kjkjl: that message has nothing to do with the xorg driver - don't worry about it	09:44
ds_creamer	I'm reading the man page but thought I might get a faster answer if I asked here too: What options do I need to call mount with to mount my USB flash drive?	09:45
kjkjl	but what about the driver . how do i know its here	09:45
ikonia	kjkjl: if you installed the package - it's there	09:45
dn4	slytherin, I found out how to get it	09:45
slytherin	ds_creamer: USB driver should get mounted automatically	09:46
kjkjl	yes now i can change the visual effects to normal . thanks ikonia ,chronicpirate and everyone	09:46
slytherin	dn4: check here - https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/+archive/ppa	09:47
un_dave	Flannel: pastebin is http://pastebin.com/d340b90a6	09:47
lizzzzard	dn4: are you completely new to ubuntu?	09:48
anooptp	slytherin ihave a problem in sound	09:48
dn4	not quite lizzzzard	09:48
anooptp	can u help me ?	09:49
slytherin	anooptp: I am not expert in sound, but I will try.	09:49
anooptp	i had no sound for last 3 day no mute in keyboard,alsa channel mix selected,sound card detected	09:49
anooptp	wen i use live cd there is sound	09:50
slytherin	anooptp: which version of Ubuntu?	09:50
anooptp	ubuntu 8	09:50
Hetor	anooptp: 8.10 or 9.04?	09:51
syntax\	neone here used openfire+pidgin?	09:51
Hetor	8.04*	09:51
kjelle	Hello. How easy is it to change the Ubuntyu ISO image (let's say for Hardy) and include some of my own packages into the .ISO file, and having them automatically installed in the installer?	09:51
anooptp	8.10	09:51
Hetor	kjelle: I'm interested in this too	09:51
anooptp	Hetor 8.10	09:52
kjelle	Hetor: I know it's easy to change the ISO file	09:52
kjelle	Hetor: but I would like to know where on the ISO do i change, so I can include my own packages (without having to study the entire ISO myself)	09:52
lizzzzard	anooptp: one of my pcs hat something like this, one of the alsa channels that are not in the standard view was muted, and master did not change anything. have you tried selecting other channels? master/pcm and such? one of those worked for me.	09:52
Ivru	Hi there	09:52
lizzzzard	anooptp: mine is a sony laptop, which seemed to have that problem sometimes.	09:53
anooptp	slytheri r u tere ?	09:53
Hetor	I'd like to include own packages in installation CD too :P	09:53
irmandos	Hetor: ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html	09:53
irmandos	kjelle: ==> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html	09:54
anooptp	lizzzzard itried every thing master pcm.....	09:54
Ivru	I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?	09:54
kjelle	irmandos: thanks	09:55
mikebeecham	can anyone tell me if Jaunty Jackal changed the way networking takes place? I've been using GVFS until recently, but now I am using Jackal, it seems to be acting wierd all the time	09:55
anooptp	were i get a solution?	09:55
mikebeecham	and now I have three icons for my mac mini...I only have 1 mac mini!	09:56
anooptp	lizzzzarda wen i use live cd there is sound	09:56
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lizzzzard	anooptp: died you try searching ubuntu forums and wiki pages? maybe if you are not english/american, also try those in your language?	09:56
fakih	h	09:56
Keypad	I just deleted over 500000 files from the trash around 60 gb worth, and its stuck on a XML file. what should I do ?	09:57
Dolo	So, I'm using Ubuntu (Gnome) on an Intel GMA945 graphics card, output to a 24" monitor (1920x1200) - the refresh is aweful, theres a lot of tearing etc. Is this just 'cause the graphics card is gutless (it really is..), or is there a way to speed it up (e.g. proprietary drivers etc?)	09:57
kjelle	Hetor: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-other <- seems to be the spot!	09:58
anooptp	lizzzzard sorry, i am new in upuntu	09:58
francis	ubantu!	09:58
anooptp	plizzzzard bye	09:59
lizzzzard	anooptp: yeah i've been new just some time ago -- i can only say forums and wiki help a lot	10:01
anooptp	lizzzzard ok bye, thaks alot	10:01
thor	does 9.4 comes with the latest boost version?	10:02
Neil3	yahay 9.04 today B-)	10:04
flavetius	ciaoooooooooooooooooooooooo	10:05
flavetius	ciao ragazzi	10:05
flavetius	come faccio a fare l'automount di una partizione all'avvio	10:05
Jordan_U	Dolo, What version of Ubuntu?	10:06
flavetius	9.10	10:06
flavetius	8.10	10:06
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flavetius	aiuto	10:07
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flavetius	ff	10:07
Master-Mind	Hello there, someone knows where to get the new ubuntu 9.04 there was supposed to be released to day :) ?	10:07
flavetius	c	10:07
Light-	Master-Mind, join #ubuntu-release-party	10:08
haggisbasheruk	no... another bunny dead	10:08
Le-Chuck_ITA	Hi all. My girlfriend is trying to bypass a proxy and she wants to use ssh as a socks proxy, so she only needs to reach the ssh server on port 80 that I setup on my pc. She used corkscrew and then ssh -D over it, but firefox will hang on the DNS search.	10:08
irmandos	!isitout \| Master-Mind	10:08
ubottu	Master-Mind: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:08
flavetius	r	10:08
lizzzzard	flavetius: http://ciaolinux.myblog.it/archive/2008/06/20/mount-automatico-delle-partizioni-all-avvio.html <- have you tried this?	10:08
Le-Chuck_ITA	Do you know whether socks should also be used in firefox for dns queries?	10:08
flavetius	thank you	10:08
lizzzzard	google is your friend ;)	10:09
ganesh	when ll 9.04 be released..?its april 23rd today..	10:09
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lizzzzard	!sitout \| ganesh	10:09
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sitout	10:09
lizzzzard	!isitout \| ganesh	10:09
ubottu	ganesh: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:09
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dimedo	i cannot encrypt anything with gnupg anymore as it seems my own public key can no longer be found, but i should have both a private and a public key. any ideas? is it possible to re-generate a public key from the private key?	10:12
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Plasticism	join #lisp	10:13
dexter47	hello	10:13
dexter47	is this where i can get a little help with some isa net card? :-(	10:14
Le-Chuck_ITA	dimedo: do not think so	10:14
dexter47	hi	10:14
Le-Chuck_ITA	dimedo: forget it, that's just theory :) in fact I don't know	10:14
drinkycrow	has anyone gotten sound to work in doom 3 with intrepid?	10:15
dexter47	do you have any idea where i can get some help with this?	10:15
blame	Hi. There's no estimated time for the 9.04 release today?	10:15
rumpel	now + x hours	10:15
zaggynl	!isitout \| blame	10:15
ubottu	blame: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:15
Canaen	is it out yet?	10:15
coffeeaddict221	dexter47: ask away	10:15
dexter47	excuse me?	10:16
coffeeaddict221	whats the question?	10:16
zaggynl	!ask \| dexter47	10:16
ubottu	dexter47: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	10:16
joaopinto	!clone	10:17
ubottu	To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate	10:17
mib_qr03ie	in how many hours jaunty will be released?	10:17
girdy	hey i have really slow wifi internet even with ipv6 blacklisted. anyone else have this?	10:18
linny	mib_qr03ie: how long is a piece of string	10:18
shapeshed_	anyone have experience of creating screencasts in ubuntu? istanbul, recordmydesktop or xvidcap?	10:18
mib_qr03ie	linny: ?	10:18
d6chung	mib_qr03ie: Join #ubuntu-release-party.	10:18
bouma	im trying to get java working in firefox.. ive followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java .. but it still doesnt work in firefox	10:18
bouma	what package do i need ?	10:19
d6chung	bouma: For me, installing ubuntu-restricted-extras always did that for me.	10:19
girdy	was there an update to jaunty recently that broke the ath9k wireless drivers?	10:20
dexter47	i have an ISA IntelExpress 10, but ubuntu' won't even detect it. i want to make an internet connection sharing, so i will need 2 cards... this ISA, i can't use if ubuntu won't detect it. windows does detect it, and i can use it. so it works. any ideas?	10:20
loafers	I installed openbox on debian base without a desktop environment. I installed xorg and setup my .xinitrc file, but debian does not startx everytime it boots, how do i fix this?	10:20
vladimir_	how to install picasa ? i add mediubuntu repository but i don't have picasa there	10:20
girdy	dexter: whatever they say, don't use ndiswrapper. it is the worst written driver on the planet	10:20
bouma	d6chung: ive got that installed.. should i reinstall it ?	10:21
coffeeaddict221	dexter47: does it show up on lshw?	10:21
linny	vladimir_: get it from http://picasa.google.co.uk/	10:21
drinkycrow	i get sound in everything except doom 3, i've tried setting it to oss/alsa and running aoss doom 3	10:21
vladimir_	ok, thanks linny	10:21
dexter47	girdy: ok... i'm not verry experienced, but i can handle this with some working ideas	10:21
DaveCo	anyone want any artwork?	10:21
bouma	can anyone help me get javaing working in firefox, ive got java-sun-6 installed.. and the ubuntu-restricted-plugins	10:21
dexter47	i tried some ubuntu forums, no luck	10:21
drinkycrow	my card is an audigy 2	10:22
girdy	dexter47: sorry just thought i would save you the hassle	10:22
ZiggiZah	hello all! has 9.04 release yet? thoughts?	10:22
girdy	dexter47: what was your card again/	10:22
zaggynl	!isitout \| ZiggiZah	10:22
ubottu	ZiggiZah: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:22
loafers	bouma, get the IcedTea java plugin	10:22
dexter47	girdy: lshw? :D	10:22
Dudeface	be patient	10:22
dexter47	what that?	10:23
girdy	yeah post that for me	10:23
Mr_Kaizer	s3r3n1t7, are you around by any chance?	10:23
bouma	loafers: im using 64bit ubuntu. is icetea still the go? .. cant i use a sun jre ? is ice tea a opensource jre ?	10:23
ZiggiZah	thnx ubottu	10:23
coffeeaddict221	in a terminal. It lists the hardware on your machine, will pick up if your card is recognised by Linux (even if a driver isn't present).	10:24
dexter47	girdy: i'm on my bro's pc, so it doesn't have isa support. i'll run the live cd from my pc, i'll get back to you soon	10:24
girdy	k	10:24
girdy	why is my CPU throttling at 100% all the time?	10:24
dexter47	girdy: thanks	10:24
loafers	bouma, I am not qualified to say, but I had the exact same problem as you and everything worked fine after installing IcedTea. And I think it is opensource, the description says its a temporary fork of OpenJDK	10:25
girdy	since an update in jaunty, i have the slowest wireless imaginable, no power-manager, and terrible battery life	10:25
Anarkist	lol	10:25
bovv	I need to find where the option for disabling Compviz is... what is the command-line command for getting to it? (even if it opens the window, that's fine...)	10:25
girdy	does anyone have any tips on how to speed up internet using ath9k drivers?	10:25
Anarkist	no wonder I was hesitatnt about upgrading	10:25
slytherin	girdy: what do you mean by no power-manager?	10:25
ChrisOnFacebook	Hi	10:25
slytherin	bovv: I don't know command line. DOn't you have access to GUI?	10:26
girdy	slytherin: power manager is running, but my cpu is always at 100%	10:26
girdy	slytherin: regardless of load	10:26
girdy	slytherin: meaning the battery life on my laptop is like 30 minutes	10:26
slytherin	girdy: what has power manager got to do with CPU being at 100%. Looks like some process is eating CPU.	10:26
ChrisOnFacebook	Does anybody can help me to set a conenction to a MySQL over SSH on a OpenSolaris server (Joyent) ?	10:26
bouma	loafers: ok surely you are joking.. ive got sun java 6 .. and also 5 aka 1.5 cause i need it for the intel idb.. which works.. but im still unable to get firefox java working	10:27
bouma	and i must say the web help is useless	10:27
girdy	slytherin: if you do sudo apt-get install powertop	10:27
girdy	slytherin: powertop shows you what mode your CPU is in.	10:27
owner	When is it coming ?	10:28
girdy	slytherin: usually with nothing running, power-manager should "step down" the CPU frequency to save on battery	10:28
Mr_Kaizer	I'm still having some issues with the desktop on my 8,10. After it's done booting, and I've logged on, the desktop won't apear most of the time, I just get the cream colored background. The times it does work, the screen first turns black with red flickering stripes, then the panels apear (or, the white outlines of them atleast). The icons gradualy apear, after about 10-15 min they're all there. Anyone have any suggestions?	10:28
slytherin	girdy: what does output of 'top' command tell you? which process is eating CPU?	10:28
slytherin	girdy: I don't believe power-manager does that.	10:28
bovv	slytherin: yeah, but I cannot find the option... :-(	10:28
girdy	slytherin: thank you soooo much	10:28
dn4	rm: cannot remove `Vagrant Records': Read-only file system	10:29
bovv	slytherin: idea... can you open the option and tell me what process is running?	10:29
girdy	slytherin: i had BOINC running in the background and i didn't even know it	10:29
girdy	slytherin: thanks man!	10:29
slytherin	bovv: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects	10:29
dn4	how do I remove something on a Read-only file system	10:29
loafers	bouma, I'm not joking. Like I said, I had the EXACT same problem as you did and was extremely annoyed. So I clicked the icon that appears when you have insufficient requirements to run the applet and firefox recommended icedtea as the plugin to install and then it worked. as for why java 6 runtime won't run the applets on firefox i am still just as clueless as you are.	10:29
slytherin	dn4: you can't	10:29
wlodi	Hi lads, I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?	10:29
dn4	slytherin, how do I re mount it as a file system where I can	10:29
bovv	slytherin: It should be there, but I am running in Japanese... and the option is MISSING.	10:29
bouma	is this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1102050, seriously necessary ??	10:30
bouma	surely someone has automated this	10:30
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slytherin	bovv: that shouldn't be the case.	10:31
bouma	is it illegal to repackage suns 64bit java from a binary installer ??	10:31
bouma	i dont understand	10:31
bovv	slytherin: it is.	10:31
drone1	slytherin: have you checked the /etc/fstab file?	10:31
slytherin	dn4: which file system is read only?	10:31
joaopinto	bouma, that procedure is not required on the recent releases	10:31
dn4	slytherin, when jaunty auto mounts my usb drive the file system is vfat	10:31
dn4	it automounts it as read only	10:32
bovv	slytherin: so... could you do the "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what it is running, please?	10:32
bouma	joaopinto: can i simply apt-get a particular package ?	10:32
joaopinto	bouma, yes, the java plugin package	10:32
slytherin	dn4: surprising, never had that problem. Check on #ubuntu+1 if anyone else is facing same problem	10:32
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slytherin	bouma: how about sun-java6-plugins	10:33
slytherin	sun-java6-plugin (no s at the end)	10:33
drone1	slytherin: i believe the solution for your problem is here	10:33
drone1	MAN mount	10:33
slytherin	drone1: I am not the one having problem. It is dn4	10:34
drone1	sorry lol	10:34
girdy	how can i tell what process is eating up all my network bandwith?	10:34
drone1	well dn4 check out MAN mount	10:34
girdy	is there a command in terminal i can type that will list processes by network usage?	10:35
drone1	it should guide you into mounting filesystems	10:35
Ivru	netstat girdy	10:35
drone1	netstat	10:35
Ivru	good name for network stat isn't it ?	10:35
X3	guys is it me or version 9,04 is due to be released today	10:35
drone1	lol	10:35
sidewalk	Ivru: topic	10:35
joaopinto	girdy, iptraf is a good tool to identify bandwidth usage	10:35
bovv	slytherin: I understand that it doesn't make sense to you, but this config is what it is... I still need to disable Compviz... and the option is not visible. Not my fault tha somebody packaged things this way. But I really do need to disable Compviz and it would be really helpful if somebody usijng an English locale would help out with only the process program name so I came fix things here.	10:36
girdy	joaopinto: is iptraf installed by default?	10:36
Ivru	sidewalk: it's X3 not me	10:36
error404notfound	i have just installed swat on my hardy server, i can't access it either locally or remotely by going localhost:901 or host-name-here:901 or ip-here:901	10:36
joaopinto	girdy, no	10:36
X3	sorry missed that last line on topic	10:37
X3	though website news is set for the 23rd	10:37
Ivru	I've got a script (with tail -f) that I launch using an init.d. I want my script to keep running. To be sure of that, I use a cron that launch my init.d every minutes (if is script is already runing, then the init.d won't start it again). Is there another way (better way) to do this ?	10:37
girdy	when jaunty is "officially" released in here in a few hours, will there just be one final update for us beta users?	10:38
bovv	ok...	10:38
error404notfound	okay, got it working with xinetd	10:39
slytherin	bovv: I wish I could help, but I do not know the command line	10:39
slytherin	girdy: are you using beta or RC?	10:39
bovv	slytherin: OK... no prob... I will tell you the command you need to type. (I'm old school)	10:40
girdy	slytherin: how do i tell? do i just run uname -r?	10:40
unop	girdy, perhaps, perhaps not - you'll have to check then	10:40
mrwes	lsb_release -rd	10:40
joaopinto	!beta \| girdy	10:40
ubottu	girdy: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.	10:40
malik__	hi all	10:40
girdy	!beta: event not found	10:41
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	10:41
bovv	slytherin: FIRST, open up that Compviz thing.	10:41
anish	anyone had any bad experiences with apt-p2p ?	10:41
bovv	slytherin: SECOND, open up a gnome-terminal	10:41
henninge_	anybody here affected by bug 359392?	10:41
slytherin	anish: a bit	10:41
malik__	i have two network interface on my machine. one is the Ethernete NIC and the other one is USB NIC which connects to my laptop through a USB data cable. i want to bridge them both so that i can use the internet on my laptop also, how cn i do this in ubuntu jaunty?	10:42
sandralade	hi, jaunty jackalope is out already?	10:42
slytherin	anish: felt it was slow than usual method	10:42
bouma	loafers: icetea installed but it doesnt get gokgs.com to work. .. so i guess i need that cacao-oj6-jre-headless	10:42
Yasser	wheres ubuntu 9.04?	10:42
bovv	slytherin: THIRD, in the terminal type the following on the command line: ps -ef	10:42
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anish	damn, i thought it would be faster,besides just reducing load	10:42
bovv	slytherin: The last new lines should contain the Compviz thingy.	10:42
Yasser	wheres ubuntu 9.04? its alreay 3.12pm thursday 23rd	10:42
bouma	joaopinto: do you know the name of the firefox java plugin ? .. cause its pretty difficult to find with just keyword searching on java firefox	10:43
sandralade	i think 9.04 is not yet available	10:43
bovv	slytherin: That's it... got it?	10:43
unop	!inetsharing \| malik__	10:43
ubottu	malik__: If you want to share the internet connection of your ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing - You may also use !firestarter: http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php	10:43
slytherin	malik__: an easy way would be to install a proxy server (squid) on machine that has internet connection, assign static IP address on both end of USB cable and then use the proxy address on the machine that needs internet address.	10:43
Yasser	bovv, but its already thursday 23rd right?	10:43
Vinceman	hi, what is a fakeroot environment good for?	10:43
slytherin	bovv: yes got it	10:43
girdy	when i try to launch sudo ifconfig wlan0 up i get siocsifflags: input/output error. ???	10:43
dn4	sudo chown -R dn4	10:43
joaopinto	boubbin, I don't remember it right now	10:43
dn4	<dn4> chown: missing operand after `dn4'	10:43
loafers	bouma, interesting you situation is even more similar to mine as I play on gokgs as well O_O I remember installing all these java files and nothing ended up working. i did it at school on a wireless and i got disconnected often so maybe you have some broken packages. also you need to have open jdk installed as well i believe hope this helps :/	10:43
malik__	hmm... ok	10:44
girdy	all i wanna do is disable and then renable my wireless	10:44
malik__	and second question.	10:44
slytherin	bouma: did you try sun-java6-plugin?	10:44
bouma	loafers: heh.. i need a game... :P	10:44
unop	Vinceman, building packages mainly - where you need to set permissions on files being included into the package	10:44
sandralade	23th is not yet over	10:44
malik__	do we have a fix of Synergy server and client problem in ubuntu Jaunty by now??	10:44
loafers	bouma, and btw there are issues with gokgs on ubuntu such as sound	10:44
adnc	hello, what time can we expect the new ubuntu release?	10:44
sandralade	idk	10:44
slytherin	malik__: it depends on many things	10:44
unop	!9.04 > adnc	10:45
ubottu	adnc, please see my private message	10:45
malik__	because in ubuntu jaunty if its a synergy client the mouse gets stucked in the top left corner	10:45
girdy	is there a way to recycle the wireless drivers or am i already using the correct command	10:45
omer666	hi	10:45
slytherin	why are we having so much traffic about jaunty on this channel?	10:45
unop	slytherin, it's to be released today	10:45
loafers	bouma, if you have gokgs running while you listen to music depending on which one you started first, the one opened last will not work. there is a workaround to this problem, but you ened to email the admins to help you out (i forgot the solution)	10:46
iamleneko	hi everybody	10:46
bouma	loafers: ive used it before with no problems	10:46
lizzzzard	because nobody knows about #ubuntu-release-party and #ubuntu+1	10:46
bouma	loafers: with ubuntu im pretty sure	10:46
bovv	slytherin: what did the "ps" show?	10:46
slytherin	unop: but it is not released today	10:46
slytherin	bovv: I am not using compiz. :-)	10:46
adnc	unop: but this doesn't tell me the hour	10:46
bouma	slytherin: ive tried to sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin, but there is no install candidate	10:46
girdy	anyone know the command to restart wireless drivers?	10:46
malik__	<slytherin> : many things do u mean the synergy client and server on ubuntu jaunty depends on many things?	10:47
unop	adnc, /join #ubuntu+1	10:47
bovv	slytherin: you don't need to be... you do have the option in your menu don't you?	10:47
lizzzzard	slytherin: but the release schedule says so, so people are nervous	10:47
bouma	slytherin: it actually says its not avail but its refered to by another package	10:47
iamleneko	how do i make some tar.gz backup of a folder choosing only one filetype to add inside ?	10:47
bovv	Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?	10:47
bouma	slytherin: i can pastebin th ermsg	10:47
david9348	hello	10:47
david9348	when will 9.04 be released?	10:47
Yasser	in how many minutes can i expect to download ubuntu jaunty? im waitin in a cafe just to dlownload it!!!!!!!!!	10:47
girdy	appearance preferences	10:47
unop	iamleneko, tar czvf foo.tgz *.txt	10:47
slytherin	bouma: then your best bet is icedtea6-plugin	10:47
X3	girdy theres is a pocess manager the one that is using most memory will be the culprit	10:47
unop	iamleneko, or better. tar czvf foo.tgz /path/to/*.txt	10:48
X3	wtf sorry lol	10:48
edeca	Yasser: Check the topic.	10:48
omer666	I'm installing Ubuntu on a friend's PC and he has an Intel GM965/GL960 graphic card, everytime I launch an OpenGL application under Intrepid I get plenty of graphical bugs	10:48
Nytrix	Ubuntu is an African word meaning 'Humanity to others', or 'I am what I am because of who we all are'. The Ubuntu distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.	10:48
iamleneko	unop, it will do this recursivly ?	10:48
lizzzzard	!isitout \| Yasser	10:48
ubottu	Yasser: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:48
bovv	slytherin: just do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?	10:48
omer666	I updated the drivers with ppa launchpad repos	10:48
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anish	why the infinite recursion i wonder http://ubuntu.media.mit.edu/ubuntu-releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/releases/	10:48
omer666	now it works but it is sooooo slow....	10:48
unop	iamleneko, no, just one level.. you'll need to use find to do this recursively	10:49
omer666	anyone has got an idea on how to make that GC work ?	10:49
bovv	slytherin: Now I am not even asking you about Compviz.	10:49
chronicpirate	now I do	10:49
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chronicpirate	>:o	10:50
breakmyfall	Hey guys, when is ubuntu 9.04 gonna be out	10:50
iamleneko	unop, something like this ? find /some/folder -iname *.php \| tar cvfz somefile.tar.gz ?	10:50
breakmyfall	?	10:50
chronicpirate	stupid intenet just added like 3 days to my idlerpg	10:50
breakmyfall	i am excited	10:50
sandralade	8-)	10:50
lizzzzard	bovv: slytherin has left the building	10:50
* chronicpirate kicks breakmyfall in the stomach		10:50
breakmyfall	an hour or two ?	10:50
girdy	i really don't understand why there is no centralized driver management app	10:50
chronicpirate	sorry man	10:50
chronicpirate	that was uncalled for	10:50
breakmyfall	chronicpirate: that hurts	10:50
lizzzzard	!isitout \| breakmyfall	10:50
ubottu	breakmyfall: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:50
bovv	Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?	10:50
bovv	Could ANYBODY do a "System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects" and tell me what is the name of the program running, please?	10:50
chronicpirate	you mean fusion?	10:51
unop	iamleneko, err no. find /some/dir -name "*.php" -exec tar archive.tgz -c {} \; # i haven't tested this, you might need to have archive.tgz created already first.	10:51
girdy	bovv: the name of hte program is appearance preferences	10:51
breakmyfall	ubottu: thnx	10:51
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about thnx	10:51
iamleneko	unop	10:51
iamleneko	thanks	10:51
KingWilliam	hi people, I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?	10:51
iamleneko	i give it a try	10:51
drinkycrow	is it possible to have sound work in doom 3?	10:51
drinkycrow	or just at all	10:51
girdy	does anyone know if the noveau driver is ready for the intel GM945 chipset?	10:52
girdy	or ready period? it broke on every machine i tried it on	10:52
inktvis75	gridy: it works stable on my dell d830	10:52
inktvis75	girdy i mean ;)	10:53
iamleneko	girdy, strange thing is that i succeed 1 time and only one to boot the ubuntu cd with this gm945hd chipset	10:53
wlodi	I want to backup a 10GB directory. How can I overcome the tar 2GB limit?	10:53
nukedclx	when 9.04 release?	10:53
Ivru	now	10:53
chronicpirate	fusion	10:53
girdy	iamlneko: it just shows how consistent the driver is....	10:53
Ivru	wlodi: you don't want to split it ?	10:53
unop	wlodi, tar doesn't have a 2GB limit .. but your filesystem might have this .. FAT especially	10:53
nukedclx	is available from mirrors?	10:53
n0cturnal	nukedclx: read ropic?	10:53
iamleneko	and the other times it have freeze just before starting X	10:53
NTAuthority	hi	10:54
n0cturnal	*topic	10:54
inktvis75	dell D830: GM965	10:54
Mr_Kaizer	!isitout \| nukedclx	10:54
ubottu	nukedclx: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	10:54
girdy	how do i install the noveau driver? i tried it a while back and it failed. what is the command?	10:54
wlodi	Ivru: I'll guess I have to	10:54
bovv	girdy: do you mean: gnome-appearance-properties? Thanks.	10:54
nukedclx	thanks	10:54
wlodi	unop: are you sure about that?	10:54
unop	wlodi, yes	10:54
girdy	bovv: i was looking at the title of the window. it said appearance properties	10:54
wlodi	unop: ok, thx	10:55
KingWilliam	I have a dual screen setup and want to enable compiz. Is this possible?	10:55
KingWilliam	anyone?	10:55
bovv	girdy: thanks... that was a good hint.	10:55
r2r4	hello ! where to find the source of /lib/ld-linux.so.2 ?	10:56
chronicpirate	it won't just work if you setup ubuntu in general to use dual?	10:56
girdy	bovv: yeah np	10:56
KingWilliam	chronicpirate, I hope it does :Pp	10:56
chronicpirate	I would think so	10:56
Mr_Kaizer	What's the best and/or easiest way to reinstall Ubuntu?	10:56
Mr_Kaizer	Just use the Live CD and hit install?=	10:56
chronicpirate	Mr_Kaizer: just reinstall	10:56
iceroot	Mr_Kaizer: yes	10:56
darrenlooby	hi all	10:57
darrenlooby	how do I a) find out what sound cards I have installed and b) get the drivers for them?	10:57
natrixnatrix89	Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?	10:57
dexter47	girdy are you still here?	10:57
girdy	yeah	10:57
Mr_Kaizer	That screwed my language settings up last time, had a nice mix between English, Norwegian, and lately, Chinese	10:57
dexter47	sry	10:57
dexter47	:D	10:57
dexter47	ok... what was that command again?	10:57
lizzzzard	Mr_Kaizer: a clean new install screwed up your language settings?	10:58
tigerwolf	darrenlooby: the command lspci is a good command to get a list of PCI devices	10:58
erkuserdem	hi everyone i wanna ask a question im using ubuntu 810 and i write the code ' sudo apt-get install kubuntu' now whic version of kde im downloading ? :D	10:58
dexter47	girdy?	10:59
tigerwolf	erkuserdem: why do you want to know the version you are downloading?	10:59
darrenlooby	tigerwolf, thanks - that'll get me started	10:59
girdy	dexter47: yeah i'm still here. why do you ask?	10:59
erkuserdem	kde 3 kde4 kde4.1 or 4.2 which one i keen on :)	10:59
girdy	sorry i'm just multitasking	10:59
dexter47	it's ok	10:59
dexter47	i asked what was that command again?	11:00
iamleneko	this website kickass : http://www.commandlinefu.com	11:00
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: It seems that way. First time I installed it (overwriting the existing Windows XP on the harddisc), the language was just fine (Norwegian). But after I reinstalled ut using the same Live CD, doing things the exact same way as last time, it became a mix between English and Norwegian.	11:00
toan	help me! when i start computer prombt grub appear and i don't come in system.	11:00
dexter47	girdy: i asked what was that command again?	11:00
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: The panels were in English, but the menues on the panels were in Norwegian :P	11:00
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lizzzzard	sounds funny	11:01
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unop	erkuserdem, apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop or apt-cache rdepends kubuntu-desktop # should give you an indication	11:01
X3	toan try recovery	11:01
girdy	dexter47: sorry which command? i asked what the command was to install the noveau driver	11:01
inktvis75	toan: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ :-)	11:01
Falstaf	what is the command after alt-F2 to upgrade to 9.04?	11:01
lizzzzard	toan: try using the livecd to fix your system.	11:01
girdy	dexter47: sorry man its 6 in the morning lol	11:01
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: Aye, and now my desktop won't load. Either just a cream colored screen, or it goes black with flickering red stripes.	11:01
matisse	hi	11:01
tigerwolf	erkuserdem: it will most likely be a recent relese - possible 4.1 - im unsure as to why its a bit deal - if you install it you can find out then	11:02
matisse	before a dist-upgrade should be a normal upgrade?	11:02
lizzzzard	Mr_Kaizer: have you tried restarting x from the console?	11:02
girdy	dexter47; i did sudo ifconfig wlan0 up and got "input/output error"	11:02
toan	error because i upgrade system	11:02
erkuserdem	tigerwolf you are right, and unop thanks also	11:03
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: I don't think so. I've only been using Ubuntu since Monday, so I'm rather noobish.	11:03
unop	erkuserdem, http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/kubuntu-desktop	11:03
X3	well then dont upgrade do a fresh reintall	11:03
dexter47	girdy: you asked me to type a command and show you what is printed on the screen. and about that driver, where do i get it from? does apt-get gives me that driver?	11:03
girdy	lspci	11:03
isak_	Anybody know why i ant download 9.04 yet...it is the 23 now=)	11:03
chronicpirate	this is going to be fun to remember (l)unix commands	11:03
ikonia	isak_: it's not the end of the 23rd yet	11:03
anish	lunix ?	11:03
chronicpirate	haven't use it in a while	11:03
lizzzzard	toan it sounds like your bootrecord is broken. this could be fixed by reinstalling grub: google "fix grub bootloader"	11:03
ikonia	isak_: jaunty discussion is in #ubuntu+1	11:04
isak_	isnt it?	11:04
isak_	aha ok sorry	11:04
Mr_Kaizer	!isitout \| isak_	11:04
girdy	dexter47: lspci shows you what hardware you have	11:04
ubottu	isak_: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	11:04
chronicpirate	as in boy(s)	11:04
dexter47	girdy: something about lh... idk... i had a problem with an isa net card... in case you fogot :D	11:04
chronicpirate	but like (L)inux	11:04
chronicpirate	er wait	11:04
chronicpirate	dman	11:04
toan	thank you	11:04
chronicpirate	that didn't work right	11:04
erkuserdem	okay unop thanks .	11:04
FloodBot2	chronicpirate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	11:04
girdy	dexter47: first i need to know what kind of card it is	11:04
erkuserdem	;)	11:04
natrixnatrix89	Hi. Where can I change my network workgroup on intrepid?	11:04
Falstaf	chronicpirate what do type after alt	11:04
anish	:)	11:04
lizzzzard	Mr_Kaizer: can you get to a console via ctrl+alt+f1?	11:04
girdy	dexter47: do you know by chance what the card is called?	11:04
chronicpirate	well linux/unix commands	11:04
chronicpirate	linux sorta has unix in it	11:04
dexter47	i sayd "IntelExpress 10 ISAPNP" i think	11:04
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: Yes, everything works up until the desktop is supposed to load.	11:05
girdy	dexter47: if you don't, typing lspci in terminal will give you a big list of hardware devices	11:05
Falstaf	chronicpirate -- what do I type after alt-f2 to upgrade the OS??	11:05
AdvoWork	is it possible to search for certain text within a folder? ie the text index.php within a folder called development?	11:05
dexter47	girdy: i'll do that now	11:05
dexter47	girdy: but is an ISA :(	11:05
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Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: The desktop even loaded fine for the first 6 or so reboots.	11:05
unop	AdvoWork, use grep	11:05
Mr_Kaizer	lizzzzard: Gotta run, bbl	11:06
chronicpirate	umm crap I don't remember those. maybe apt-get update?	11:06
unop	AdvoWork, grep search_word development/*	11:06
chronicpirate	It might not use apt i dont' rmember	11:06
chronicpirate	then upgrade	11:06
antilus	the new Ubuntu 9.04 (I guess RC-version since I typed alt+ f2) sucks so extremely hard! They've removed the "CTRL+ALT+Backspace" and the performance on my laptop equals Vista!	11:06
girdy	dexter47: sorry this may be going beyond my knowledge of computers. what is ISA?	11:06
chronicpirate	i know it's update and upgrade but maybe not apt	11:06
antilus	if it doesn't get better I'm gonna stay with 8.10..	11:06
dexter47	ISA was used before PCI	11:06
ordinareez	hello, is there a channel for ubuntu gamer?	11:07
omer666	So I found why my GMA was so slow	11:07
chronicpirate	#ubuntu-games ?	11:07
chronicpirate	myabde	11:07
omer666	but now I've got graphical bugs again	11:07
AdvoWork	unop, will that search .gz's aswell?	11:07
chronicpirate	nope	11:07
chronicpirate	try /list	11:07
chronicpirate	see if there is one	11:07
omer666	where does it come from ?	11:07
X3	ISA is nothing	11:07
lizzzzard	antilus: you are free to do so. also if you are running a intel graphics chipset on your laptop, the problem is known and being worked on. you can change the ctrl+alt+backspace thing back if you want to	11:07
chronicpirate	linux-games would be likey	11:07
byflash	hey anyone here pro @ psp hacking?	11:08
unop	AdvoWork, nope .. only uncompressed non-binary files	11:08
X3	byflash yea so	11:08
girdy	god i really wish i had my VISTA cd	11:08
byflash	oh	11:08
antilus	yeah, I use my laptop at the moment...didn't know that Intel didn't work, but then I'll blame Intel instead xD	11:08
byflash	hey i have i question	11:08
X3	this is not #psp	11:08
antilus	but how can I change CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE so it works again?^^	11:08
unop	AdvoWork, if you want to search through .gz files. zgrep "index\.php" development/*.gz	11:08
byflash	there is nobody there T^T	11:09
AdvoWork	unop, wil doing grep searchterm folder/* search folders within that folder aswell?	11:09
gypsymauro	someone uses ocsinventory? I need to know on how to set TAG on clients once the service agent is installed	11:09
X3	antlilus look at you keyboard settings	11:09
lizzzzard	antilus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg	11:09
arcsky	new ubuntu cmes today?	11:09
lizzzzard	google is your friend	11:09
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ninjafury	I'm having trouble getting netatalk/avahi working properly with Jaunty. After upgrading to jaunty, I can't mount shared drives on my mac. Anyone have this problem?	11:09
unop	AdvoWork, no, add the -r flag to grep to enable recursive search .. grep -r searchterm folder/*	11:09
X3	byflash: wtf do you want	11:10
antilus	thx a lot guys...you're the best!	11:10
lizzzzard	antilus: on same page for your info https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes#Performance%20regressions%20on%20Intel%20graphics%20cards	11:10
inktvis75	http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	11:10
arcsky	where can i download ubuntu 9.04?	11:10
supersasho	hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one	11:11
lizzzzard	!isitout \| arcsky	11:11
ubottu	arcsky: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	11:11
AdvoWork	unop so: zgrep -r "index\.php" /*.gz will search all folders for all files Including .gz ?	11:11
MrStatic	Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed	11:11
unop	AdvoWork, no, zgrep only looks in gzip compressed files ... and since we specified *.gz there, only those files are passed on to zgrep .. all other files are ignored	11:12
naxa	hi all! So how is it going?	11:13
naxa	I mean Jaunty of course.	11:13
madrazr	JJ is out :D	11:14
girdy	naxa: it sucks	11:14
unop	AdvoWork, in other words, you need two commands, use grep to search all the normal files first, then use zgrep to search compressed files	11:14
girdy	naxa: no hardware support, no compiz, no internet (now anyway),	11:14
naxa	girdy, really? how?	11:14
naxa	madrazr, yeah I've a copy too	11:14
naxa	girdy, oh I see. how lame!	11:15
girdy	naxa: the noveau driver won't install on my intel gm945	11:15
madrazr	naxa: I don't have such a fast connection :(	11:15
supersasho	hello, can you help me with a script that opens several programs but on another virtual desktop (f.e. desktop2).. not on the focused one	11:15
naxa	madrazr, I came all the way here to have a fast internet and it's just not oficially out yet! What a shame!	11:15
naxa	madrazr, at home i have 50 kb/s	11:15
madrazr	naxa: what?	11:16
girdy	naxa: well i'm not trying to bash ubuntu, i just see room for improvement	11:16
naxa	madrazr, here i've got 3 mb/s	11:16
madrazr	naxa: I have 2mbps	11:16
madrazr	still it sucks here	11:16
fincan	Downloads arrived!!! CHECK WEBSİTE!!!!	11:16
fincan	just kidding :)	11:16
naxa	girdy, yeah, I can see your point! I've an old intel chipset in my mb at home and it is not supported either! How lame!	11:16
salimane	fincan which website?	11:17
Extend	it is out right ?	11:17
girdy	naxa: just do it from where you are. CTRL+ F2	11:17
fincan	I was kidding :)	11:17
naxa	madrazr, yeah, i'm always lost in this. do you mean bit or byte? i meant byte.	11:17
dexter47	girdy?	11:17
girdy	naxa: enter in "update-manager -d" without quotes	11:17
madrazr	naxa: bit	11:17
naxa	girdy, wow!	11:17
joaopinto	today is not a good day to use update-manager :P	11:18
Extend	it's out i'm downloading	11:18
AdvoWork	unop, yeah something like that :s	11:18
naxa	madrazr, i see i see! Let's say it's 38=24 mbps here and 508=0,4 mbps at home for me, then. it was worth to come here!	11:18
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supersasho	will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?	11:19
fincan	kubuntu dvd on torrent and ftp	11:19
fincan	OUT!!!!!!!!!!	11:19
fincan	RELEASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!	11:19
fincan	http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-amd64.iso	11:19
naxa	what? for real?	11:19
fincan	:)	11:19
rc55	lies	11:19
brinstar	the timestamp on the iso is 20 apr???	11:19
fincan	http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/	11:20
fincan	check here :)	11:20
tsimpson	!ops \| fincan	11:20
ubottu	fincan: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elky, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!	11:20
LurkersA	it will be the RC	11:20
naxa	oh yeah no announce	11:20
brinstar	http://noncdn-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	11:20
rc55	There really wont be much difference between RC and final	11:20
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Matr\|X	i have some problem with my lamp-server	11:20
Master-Mind	Hey how do i find the Danish Channel :) ?	11:20
supersasho	will anyone use apt-p2p for upgrading? does it get faster then the normal way?	11:20
omer666	anyone has a GM965/GL960 that works correctly ?	11:20
haggisbasheruk	for those Aspire One users out there , Kuki Linux 1.7 (based on Jaunty final) is now in testing #kukilinux for details	11:21
Myrtti	!dk \| Master-Mind	11:21
ubottu	Master-Mind: For at få dansksproget support til Ubuntu, bedes du venligst gå til #ubuntu-dk. I denne kanal forefindes kun engelsksproget support.	11:21
drinkycrow	need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2	11:21
naxa	girdy, I wonder if the intel driver, network manager, menu editing and gtk filechooser just got any better? :D my critical points so far. They are not being updated too much... .)	11:21
Dudeface	is ubuntu based on windows xp or windows vista?	11:22
drinkycrow	xp	11:22
Dudeface	i dont like vista	11:22
Dudeface	SWEET!	11:22
Matr\|X	i unstall lamp server then i install it agine give me erros like Reloading AppArmor profiles : done.	11:22
Matr\|X	* /etc/init.d/mysql: WARNING: /etc/mysql/my.cnf cannot be read. See README.Debian.gz	11:22
Matr\|X	* Starting MySQL database server mysqld [ OK ]	11:22
Matr\|X	/etc/init.d/mysql: line 115: /etc/mysql/debian-start: No such file or directory	11:22
Matr\|X	invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" fail	11:22
FloodBot2	Matr\|X: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	11:22
Myrtti	Dudeface: neither, keep the offtopic chat somewhere else	11:22
Matr\|X	/etc/mysql/my.cnf << this is my problem :S	11:22
Extend	Dudeface, r u sure about what u said about ubuntu ?	11:22
naxa	Dudeface, it's 3.1	11:23
Extend	3.1 the NT version ?	11:23
Matr\|X	hello	11:23
brinstar	Dudeface: its based on DOS	11:23
Dudeface	3.1 came out just after xp, wasnt as good	11:23
Matr\|X	eny body help me plz	11:23
naxa	Extend, 3.1 the "for workgroups" version	11:23
Extend	naxa, oh nice	11:23
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RantingHuman	The alternate iso torrent link for 9.04 shows a tracker error... "not authorized for use"..	11:24
bouma	ok ive got icedtea-6-plugin openjdk-6-jre- open-jdk-6-jre-headless	11:24
bouma	but java still doesnt work in firefox	11:24
naxa	Matr\|X, no idea sorry :(	11:24
Matr\|X	:(:(:(:(:(	11:24
MrStatic	Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed	11:24
Matr\|X	so if i make backup for my server it will go back to three days befor	11:25
drinkycrow	need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2	11:25
Matr\|X	if i backup my server will it work like 3 days later	11:25
LurkersA	RantingHuman: Same here	11:25
Atomic_UE	is 7.10 passed it's support life?	11:25
RantingHuman	LurkersA, I guess they're waiting till it's announced	11:26
erUSUL	!gutsy	11:26
ubottu	Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.	11:26
LurkersA	Atomic_UE: http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-7.10-eol	11:26
Atomic_UE	cool thanks	11:26
LurkersA	RantingHuman: Yeah, I'll just keep hitting F5 on ubuntu.com :)	11:26
Atomic_UE	explains why it says there are updates but nobody has them :P	11:26
RantingHuman	hehe	11:27
Atomic_UE	might click the upgrade button then and see how it goes	11:27
gardrell	http://torrent.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/	11:28
kraut	gardrell: rd or final?	11:28
Mylisto	hey everyone...	11:29
gardrell	final but noch released yet	11:29
Mylisto	how can I figure out what my ip settings are in ubuntu?	11:29
gardrell	ifconfig	11:29
kiosky	it's out: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	11:29
kraut	gardrell: still not on any other mirror, let's wait ;)	11:29
ActionParsnip	yo yo yo	11:30
naxa	Mylisto, I used to do it with typing "ifconfig" (without braces) in a Terminal what can be found in Applications	11:30
ActionParsnip	naxa: {} are braces ;)	11:30
Mylisto	which one is the default gateway?	11:30
naxa	ActionParsnip, whoops, that's for real! SORRY!!!	11:31
ActionParsnip	naxa: just playing dude	11:31
naxa	ActionParsnip, help me out what is these apostrophes or """""	11:31
karname	this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/	11:31
karname	?	11:31
florin	hi	11:31
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naxa	ActionParsnip, in Hungaryr, we call them the "claws of the cat"	11:31
naxa	(literally)	11:31
LurkersA	wonder what the traffic is like on ubuntu.com right now....	11:31
ActionParsnip	naxa: i'd say quotes or quotation marks	11:31
ActionParsnip	naxa: cool, thats rockin	11:32
naxa	yeah it's the best!	11:32
karname	anybody know this is rc or final version : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/?	11:32
DRAGGER	Hello , i get a Backup form cpanel on my server when i extracted it on ubuntu i getting error "Unexpected end of file"	11:32
DRAGGER	i removed it and redownloaded it but the same problem	11:33
LurkersA	i386 alternate torrent is up and running	11:33
Extend	LurkersA, yeah	11:33
Newb`s	9.04 is out	11:33
Newb`s	topic is deprecated :D	11:33
RustAU	!outyet	11:33
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	11:33
DRAGGER	Hello !	11:34
Rapachooie	hi all... I am trying to find out if there is a simple way to rename a heap of image files, so that they do not have duplicate-errors (lower-case and upper-case files appear as the same file on windows) when I put them onto windows	11:34
naxa	Mylisto, type "/sbin/route"	11:34
Rapachooie	is there a simple program or command to differentiate the files?	11:34
naxa	Mylisto, there you'll see your default gateway!	11:34
eirikhm	For a quick mirror in Scandinavia - ftp://ftp.uninett.no/linux/ubuntu-iso/9.04/	11:34
Mylisto	naxa: did that...nothing happened	11:34
rumpel	@ Rapachooie "man rename"	11:35
Rapachooie	rumpel: could you elaborate a bit on that for me?	11:35
naxa	Mylisto, uh, well, it works for me! i write "/sbin/route" in a terminal without quotes and it just tells me the default gateway	11:35
Rapachooie	rumple nevermind	11:35
Rapachooie	forgat thats the manual name	11:35
Rapachooie	*forgot	11:35
tucuna	it has been released (9.04)	11:36
Rapachooie	:) ill have a look thanks	11:36
Klau3	realy?	11:36
MrStatic	Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed	11:36
tucuna	http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/	11:36
Nytrix	http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04	11:36
LurkersA	And now I remember why I hate NZ broadband speeds.... -sigh-	11:36
FlyOnThe1all	I'm trying to install slapd with tls-support in Hardy, but I keep getting the not-so-clear error msg: -64, anybody know what this means?	11:37
Mylisto	anyone know how to find the default gateway via terminal?	11:37
FlyOnThe1all	Mylisto: ip route	11:37
RustAU	how do I remove mounted disks from the desktop?	11:37
rumpel	@ Mylisto "route"	11:37
rumpel	@ RustAU rightclick	11:37
ActionParsnip	!info slapd	11:37
ubottu	slapd (source: openldap): OpenLDAP server (slapd). In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.11-0ubuntu6.1 (intrepid), package size 1432 kB, installed size 3872 kB	11:37
Newb`s	Ubuntu 9.04 is out here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	11:37
fincan	change channel topic! :)	11:38
_g0tmi1k_	so its out?	11:38
Mylisto	this is what I got when I type route	11:38
RustAU	wtf no netbook remix torrent	11:38
Mylisto	http://paste.ubuntu.com/156437/	11:38
Newb`s	It's out	11:38
sponzor	Newb`s what about kubunt?	11:38
Newb`s	http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	11:38
Mylisto	not sure what the default gateway is	11:38
Newb`s	sponzor: out too	11:38
ActionParsnip	FlyOnThe1all: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install slapd	11:39
sponzor	can you geave me the link please	11:39
ActionParsnip	FlyOnThe1all: try that	11:39
Newb`s	sponzor: kubuntu is here : http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/	11:39
sriramoman	why's release taking so much time :(	11:39
sponzor	thanks	11:39
brinstar	its out	11:39
FlyOnThe1all	ActionParsnip: very well, I'll try it	11:39
naxa	Mylisto, should you try "sudo route" without quotes, perhaps	11:39
FlyOnThe1all	Mylisto: the Gateway -column is the list of your gateways for different destinations, the default one is clearly stated to be 192.168.1.1	11:39
Mylisto	192.168.1.1 is my linksys router I think...	11:40
Rapachooie	i dont get it	11:40
Rapachooie	the main page isnt updated	11:40
FlyOnThe1all	Mylisto: yup	11:40
lucide	how to know when the final version is out? ubuntu.com proposes 8.10 as "the latest version" on their pages.. :P	11:40
Rapachooie	im still getting it that 8.10 is latest	11:40
naxa	Mylisto, shoudn't that be your gateway?	11:40
Mylisto	Basically I am trying to get my gf's win xp machine to connect...dhcp messed up like 2 weeks ago...so I am trying to set up everything with manual ip's, default...but not sure how	11:41
Myrtti	!isitout	11:41
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	11:41
brinstar	it is out, check the main page link for the rc	11:41
Myrtti	brinstar: it's not, stop saying it is	11:41
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ActionParsnip	Rapachooie: sudo updatemanager -d	11:41
iceroot	Myrtti: it is	11:41
brinstar	why not just check the page and tell me what you think??	11:41
lucide	brinstar: RC is not the final release.. ?	11:41
Mylisto	would anyone care to walk me through this?	11:41
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Rapachooie	doesnt seem like it is to me	11:41
brinstar	what is that release if not the final version?	11:41
Rapachooie	considering the "download" page says that 8.10 is the latest	11:42
lucide	RC - release candidate	11:42
Myrtti	brinstar, iceroot: do you want me to explain the mechanics of rsync to you, or are you just going to believe it's not released yet?	11:42
sriramoman	lucide, RC is the release candidate and not the final release.	11:42
lucide	sriramoman: exactly..	11:42
tucuna	here is a torrent for 9.05 Final/Full:	11:42
tucuna	http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/	11:42
ActionParsnip	why can't people just wait 24 hours more?	11:42
FlyOnThe1all	ActionParsnip: that only installs slapd, which I already have the latest version of	11:42
drinkycrow	need help with sound in doom 3, audigy 2	11:42
aboSamoor	Hi, can you help me ? I want to download a podcast. Rhythmbox is not saving the files by their titles, banshee can not continue downloading [known bug] ?!	11:42
ActionParsnip	its so hilarious to watch you all fight to find something that doesnt exist yet	11:42
=== Mr is now known as Guest36220
brinstar	Myrtti: then what is the release on that page i mentioned?	11:43
tsimpson	don't post links until after the announcement from ubuntu.com	11:43
ActionParsnip	FlyOnThe1all: ok so whats the problem?	11:43
sriramoman	drinkycrow, doom3 is there for linux?	11:43
Mylisto	basically I just need to find out what I should make the ip address in my winxp machine	11:43
lucide	ActionParsnip: because I've been waiting "just" one week and I really want to get started with the latest final version	11:43
tsimpson	and I mean the front page of it	11:43
ActionParsnip	sriramoman: yep, get the native installer from ID's site and use that with your Doom3 CD, or use WINE	11:43
Myrtti	brinstar: it's a file that may or may not be the final version. There might be some changes to it with rsync from the release team, so it may not be the final one	11:43
GrimmVarg	hey guys, is there at apple+ubuntu channel somewhere?	11:43
tsimpson	Newb`s: join #ubuntu-ops then	11:43
ActionParsnip	lucide: your system wont self destruct if it doesnt get jaunty installed right now.	11:44
FlyOnThe1all	ActionParsnip: so the problem is I've configured it, generated certificates, checked the certificates, gone through the file access rights to the certificates and yet I cannot start the slapd service, debug output only says the error is -64	11:44
FlyOnThe1all	ActionParsnip: to be precise: main: TLS init def ctx failed: -64	11:44
olivier	so, is it out now?	11:44
ActionParsnip	FlyOnThe1all: o idea then dude, not something i use. Is there an irc channel for it, on freenode or another server	11:44
FlyOnThe1all	I tried looking for one, but I couldn't find one	11:45
drinkycrow	sriramoman: yes, it runs natively on linux	11:45
lucide	ActionParsnip: noo.. I just asked how to know when it's out.. if anyone knows.. not that I must have it, I just want to have it	11:45
Myrtti	ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party	11:45
naxa	Mylisto, also "netstat -nr" has your default gateway with "UG" written in the "FLAG" coloumn	11:45
Klau3	do you download the .iso through BitTorrent or ftp?	11:45
Myrtti	lucide: it's not out	11:45
ActionParsnip	lucide: i'd say in about 24 - 48 hours	11:45
ActionParsnip	!isitout \| lucide	11:45
ubottu	lucide: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	11:45
ActionParsnip	Myrtti: i guess this is flavour of the day huh :(	11:45
drinkycrow	if by 'runs on linux' you mean 'hope you really don't want to hear anything'	11:45
dundel	haha finally	11:46
dundel	it's coming	11:46
erUSUL	McPeter: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one	11:46
Myrtti	ActionParsnip: yes, and one of the reasons I hate release days	11:46
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: huh?	11:46
lucide	tnx	11:46
Rapachooie	hi all...i have a bunch of photos which are both upper and lower case and windows is recognising them as duplicates... i am trying to find a command or program to rename them to windows compatible format? - man rename didnt tell me much	11:46
wtv	what's the difference between ubuntu CD and DVD installation?	11:46
drinkycrow	ActionParsnip: doom 3 runs awesome on ubuntu so long as you don't mind not being able to hear a revenant around the corner with a set of rockets waiting to roast you	11:46
ActionParsnip	wtv: dvd has a lot more language support on the disk as well as (i think) the other DEs	11:47
trucMuche	erUSUL, what ? oO	11:47
zetheroo	how can I update alsa to the latest version? ... I am running 9.04	11:47
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: ran perfectly on my system	11:47
hadis	anyone can help me about install stellarium-0.10.0	11:47
trucMuche	"my winXP" o_O	11:47
drinkycrow	what version?	11:47
ActionParsnip	wtv: but you can get it all once you get installed and online	11:47
wtv	ActionParsnip: does it have more optional packages	11:47
erUSUL	trucMuche: my bad was for Mylisto ...	11:47
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: let me guess....creative soundcard?	11:47
FlyOnThe1all	ActionParsnip: thanks for the help tho, I'll see if I can find a more specific channel for slapd	11:47
drinkycrow	good call	11:47
wtv	ActionParsnip: i intend to install it on PCs not connected	11:47
erUSUL	Mylisto: your winXP must have an ip 192.168.1.x (x can be 1-254) 1 is ocupied by the gw so choose another one	11:47
MrStatic	Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed	11:48
trucMuche	erUSUL, :)	11:48
drinkycrow	but i don't see how that's relevant, as everything else has sound	11:48
ActionParsnip	wtv: no not really, for a desktop PC in english using a single DE, it has everything you need. I download the DVD ISO as I can't find CD media around me for love nor money	11:48
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: do you use a creative soundcard?	11:48
looonger	has 9.04 been released yet?	11:49
drinkycrow	yes	11:49
drinkycrow	it's a creative soundcard	11:49
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: wanna know how i knew?	11:49
blame	sriramoman its already released	11:49
Myrtti	looonger: no	11:49
drinkycrow	how?	11:49
wtv	ActionParsnip: it doesn't have codecs	11:49
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: because their support SUCKS and they are a PITA to setup	11:49
drinkycrow	it works with everything else	11:49
drinkycrow	and doom3 has sound in windows	11:49
sveinse	Hello. Is is possible to spawn a guest session of KDE when running Ubuntu?	11:49
drinkycrow	so i cant see how it's creative's fault	11:50
sveinse	...running Gnome that it	11:50
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: i use 100% compatible soundcards and have had no issues with any sound ever	11:50
zetheroo	ActionParsnip: how about laptops?	11:50
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: creative cant even support windows fully, a guy got sick of their slackness, wrote his own driver and creative threatened to sue	11:50
looonger	Myrtti, are isos available to download or is it the previous version?	11:50
girdy	thinks that linux should just die	11:50
drinkycrow	but it works for everything except doom 3 in ubuntu	11:50
FlyOnThe1all	drinkycrow: it's creative fault even tho it works in windows, because Creative makes drivers for windows but not for linux	11:50
zetheroo	ActionParsnip: I mean its not that easy to know what type of SC is in a laptop ...	11:50
ActionParsnip	zetheroo: research is key	11:51
zetheroo	ActionParsnip: hmm	11:51
girdy	why doesnt CTRL C work	11:51
krychek	where?	11:51
girdy	man this is so basic yet there are still bugs in the most simple things	11:51
Myrtti	looonger: there might be some isos that might look like they are the final release version, but there might still be some changes to them, so we ask you not to download them yet. the previous versions can be downloaded and used, but patience will get you further	11:51
ActionParsnip	zetheroo: there are loads of guides and forums about people with varying latops and will most likely have pasted their lspci, so you can see exactly whats what	11:51
LurkersA	in what girdy?	11:51
drinkycrow	how is an audio card supposed to develop linux drivers?	11:52
drinkycrow	the company rather	11:52
drinkycrow	linux sound structure changes every year	11:52
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: they make the card, they make the drivers. NVidia have been doing it for ages	11:52
erUSUL	drinkycrow: code in C against the alsa kernel subsystem	11:52
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: as have intel	11:52
ActionParsnip	drinkycrow: as have realtek	11:52
joaopinto	and this really should go into off-topic :)	11:53
zetheroo	erUSUL: :-D	11:53
james7493	drinkycrow: They don't have to. There's a bunch of driver developers that have offered to write and maintain drivers for companies that are willing to provide technical information about their hardware.	11:53
zetheroo	joaopinto: nah ... there's not much happening anyhow	11:53
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girdy	lurkersa: linux is terrible man i've lost all faith in it	11:54
Athenon_	what time today is jaunty coming out>?	11:55
girdy	the file hierarchy is a huge disorganized mess, there's no device manager, there's no real graphics support. period	11:55
joaopinto	girdy, do you have a question ? this channel is not for complains	11:55
rumpel	!jaunty > Athenon_	11:55
nonickname	Athenon_, read the topic of the channel.	11:55
ubottu	Athenon_, please see my private message	11:55
Mr_Kaizer	How do I restart X from the terminal?	11:55
joaopinto	girdy, you are clearly misinformed	11:55
LurkersA	girdy: Were you trying to use CTRL-C in a terminal?	11:55
girdy	i'm not complaining, there's a lot that needs to be done to this OS	11:55
girdy	no CTRL + SHIFT + C	11:56
girdy	but CTRL + C in firefox	11:56
looonger	girdy, linux is free so don't complain	11:56
james7493	girdy: How come you're here?	11:56
kliklik	There's a lot that needs to be done to any OS. IMO they all suck	11:56
ActionParsnip	girdy: how many distros have you tried?	11:56
girdy	hahaha	11:56
LurkersA	girdy: THere is a lot to be done, but what we have is fairly impressive	11:56
MrKeishii	Is it possible to change the compiz fusion window size on netbook?	11:56
girdy	<ActionParsnip>: i've tried fedora and ubuntu	11:56
MrKeishii	because it has problems on netbooks	11:57
ActionParsnip	girdy: thats not very many to say you hate linux	11:57
MrKeishii	using 9.04RCC	11:57
looonger	girdy, after 5 years on linux I see no alternative to linux	11:57
mgolisch	no the file hoerarchy is great	11:57
ActionParsnip	girdy: maybe BSD is more to your tastes	11:57
girdy	i never said i hated it	11:57
girdy	i said it needs improvements	11:57
Phleagor	try archlinux	11:57
mgolisch	its clean, its not a mess like on windows	11:57
ActionParsnip	looonger: pretty much the same here	11:57
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girdy	which i will eventually write in code and give to all of you	11:57
girdy	leaving my mark on the open source world	11:57
joaopinto	ppl can we move the what linux needs to #ubuntu-offtopic ?	11:57
kliklik	that's the spirit :)	11:57
james7493	girdy: There's actually an improvement coming out today that you might've heard something about...	11:58
ActionParsnip	girdy: give fedora a try, its got pretty sweet support	11:58
Vezir	soit IS today	11:58
girdy	ActionParsnip: aiight i will	11:58
looonger	girdy, graphics support sucks, that's true	11:58
Vezir	the "don't ask when" is an hour type thing, not a SHIT WE COULDNT FINISH IT	11:58
Vezir	thing	11:58
joaopinto	girdy, your overall statement is clearly misinformed, but please keep this channel for support	11:58
girdy	james7493: u mean jaunty or something more specific?	11:58
marko_d	hi	11:58
marko_d	when will ubuntu torrent be pushed out?	11:59
james7493	girdy: Yeah, Jaunty.	11:59
marko_d	like in 1-2 hours or ?	11:59
tsimpson	!language \| Vezir	11:59
ubottu	Vezir: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	11:59
Vezir	oh whoops, sorry, shoulda figuredthat out	11:59
r3c0n	ubuntu 9.04 is scheduled for release today, isnt it?	11:59
_Sih	yes	11:59
Vezir	anyways i was worried that t would become ubuntu 9.0fornever	11:59
joaopinto	r3c0n, yes, but it's not out yet, don't ask for the time	11:59
tigerwolf	join #ubuntu-party	11:59
marko_d	yeah, but which time	11:59
JackWinter	anyone know what version of nfs is in ubuntu 8.04 nfs3 or nfs4 ?	12:00
asasd	Happy Ubunting :D	12:00
asasd	Geissbock	12:00
asasd	Avatar von Geissbock	12:00
asasd	Anmeldungsdatum:	12:00
FloodBot2	asasd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:00
asasd	4. Juni 2007	12:00
asasd	Beiträge: 223	12:00
TychoQuad	Are we allowed to talk about Jaunty in here yet?	12:00
ossud	when can i download 9.04?	12:00
ossud	xD	12:00
ziroday	TychoQuad: ossud #ubuntu-release-party	12:00
r3c0n	joaopinto: ok, im not five you know :)	12:00
r3c0n	DAD! ARE WE THERE YET?	12:01
r3c0n	;)	12:01
joaopinto	;)	12:01
TychoQuad	ziroday, i'm not here to celebrate, i'm here to sort an issue :P	12:01
bibstha	lol	12:01
bibstha	but why ? is it being doen for throttling?	12:01
Foor	9.04	12:01
Madpilot	bibstha, is what being done for throttling?	12:01
geoaxis	what time is 9.04 expected today, if its being released today	12:02
krychek	whats the point in upgrading as soon as it's out? it will be slooow to download	12:02
chronicpirate	t minus +45 ish	12:02
tsimpson	geoaxis: there is no exact time, join #ubuntu-release party to wait it out	12:02
chronicpirate	that's a clever joke if you can catch it	12:02
bibstha	Madpilot, hehe nevermind	12:02
chronicpirate	or wait minus -45	12:02
geoaxis	krychek: if more people put it on bittorent , it will be not a problem	12:03
ActionParsnip	krychek: many systems have 200Kg of thermit above them, the bomb will run uname -c at midnight, if it doesnt see jaunty, the systems will melt so they need jaunty now now now	12:03
tsimpson	erm that's #ubuntu-release-party	12:03
chronicpirate	geoaxis: it is gonna be on bit torrent	12:03
sveinse	Non-9.04-question: How do I start a second KDE guest session, when running Gnome? It seems guest session simply spawns a new Gnome session. Is is possible?	12:03
chronicpirate	and when it's offically released you'll be glad to see how many seeds will magically be there :p	12:03
r3c0n	will ubuntu 9.04 be lts?	12:03
tsimpson	no	12:03
chronicpirate	nope	12:03
geoaxis	chronicpirate: yeah i know ... krychek was complaining about slow download speeds	12:04
chronicpirate	10.04 I belive is next	12:04
krychek	geoaxis: you cant upgrade using torrent.. unless you reinstall the whole stuff	12:04
[1]kino	hi, everybody. Why can't I see videos when I run the Ubuntu 8.04 live cd?	12:04
chronicpirate	like any vidoes?	12:04
geoaxis	krychek: you cannnot upgrade with CD?	12:04
pspsampsp_	u can use alternate install to upgrade	12:04
chronicpirate	you might need to install the proper codecs	12:04
zetheroo	what time is 9.04 being released?	12:04
joaopinto	[1]kino, because you dont have the proprietary codecs ?	12:04
whattey	when its done	12:04
chronicpirate	for like divx	12:04
pspsampsp_	ill get the link	12:04
whattey	\o/	12:04
nonickname	zetheroo, join #ubuntu-release-party	12:05
chronicpirate	there are nice generica packs out	12:05
chronicpirate	apt-cache search video codecs	12:05
r3c0n	what motivates you guys to label a distro LTS? is it how stable you feel that it is?	12:05
chronicpirate	can't remember what its' called but it will hook you up	12:05
[1]kino	chronicpirate the answer was for me?	12:05
chronicpirate	yeah	12:05
irmandos	!isitout \| zetheroo	12:05
chronicpirate	it was	12:05
ubottu	zetheroo: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	12:05
krychek	geoaxis: with alternative cd yes.. but i dont think most ppl are doing it that way	12:05
joaopinto	r3c0n, no, it's is a predefined support schedule	12:05
r3c0n	i was under the imperssion that all .04's were LTS	12:05
chronicpirate	every other?	12:05
[1]kino	how can I install the codecs while running the live cd?	12:05
r3c0n	ah joapinto, so the next LTS will be 10.04 ?	12:05
chronicpirate	it might even be every three years	12:05
r3c0n	joaopinto*	12:06
chronicpirate	yes	12:06
sveinse	Wow... People aren't talking about anything else than the release :o	12:06
chronicpirate	it wil be	12:06
ActionParsnip	[1]kino: same as you would in an installd system	12:06
DJones	r3c0n: LTS are every 18 months	12:06
MrStatic	Hiya, was wondering if anyone knew why my wifi is being assigned to eth1 which is screwing up a lot of things instead of wlan0, I checked the persistent rules and its listed	12:06
ActionParsnip	!medibuntu \| [1]kino	12:06
ubottu	[1]kino: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	12:06
r3c0n	are .04's more stable than .10's ?	12:06
joaopinto	r3c0n, as far as I know yes	12:06
joaopinto	r3c0n, no	12:06
[1]kino	ubottu, so what should I install?	12:06
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	12:06
joaopinto	they have the same development cycle	12:06
Madpilot	r3c0n, there's no difference	12:06
ActionParsnip	r3c0n: i guess it varys from system to system	12:06
joaopinto	the S on LTS is not about stability, is about support	12:07
krychek	r3c0n: who said LTS means more stable? it means only its supported for a longer period of time..	12:07
r3c0n	i know its about support	12:07
r3c0n	long term support. i get it but its always the .04's that get the LTS	12:07
r3c0n	i guess that also has to do with fact that someone said its every 18 months	12:07
r3c0n	and since its every 6 months that we get a new version	12:07
r3c0n	then it will always be .04	12:07
bibstha	its been released!! yeppie	12:07
bibstha	official announcement done	12:07
joaopinto	r3c0n, right	12:07
bibstha	http://www.ubuntu.com/	12:07
FloodBot2	bibstha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	12:08
krychek	r3c0n: there are 3 non-lts releases between every lts	12:08
r3c0n	o	12:08
JPSman	Hey everybody. What is a good C IDE for gutsy? I was toying with a kdevelop on a virtual KDE (slackware) and it looked GOOD. I just want to know what's a good one for ubuntu?	12:08
rm```	JPSman: eclipse	12:08
tsimpson	bibstha: not it has not	12:08
joaopinto	bibstha, was not	12:08
rm```	and CDT	12:08
r3c0n	so since 8.04 had lts, 8.10 wont, and neither will 9.04 or 9.10. yeah so pretty much only .04's will have LTS	12:08
bibstha	hehe just testing.. u guys..	12:08
joaopinto	JPSman, code::blocks, don't know if there is a package for gutsy	12:09
erUSUL	JPSman: Anjuta is the rough equivalent	12:09
zaggynl	hmm, 3MB/s	12:09
r3c0n	where you guys dling from?	12:09
zaggynl	♥ them quick mirrors	12:09
zaggynl	some dutch ubuntu mirror	12:09
JPSman	rm```, joaopinto, erUSUL - THANK YOU :OD	12:09
rm```	JPSman: sudo apt-get install eclipse-cdt if you want a fancy package, I prefer to download it directly from the website	12:10
JPSman	are the archives down right now?	12:10
to3000	what time dose 9.04 come out	12:11
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Newb`s	!topic @ to3000	12:11
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about topic @ to3000	12:11
Newb`s	:D	12:11
aboyousif	jaunty should be released now, right ?!	12:12
finaltune	were is the release party?	12:12
zcat[1]	the last daily is pretty-much it anyhow.. previous releases ISTR the daily from the day before even had the same md5sum	12:12
tsimpson	!jaunty	12:12
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	12:12
=== Blizzerand is now known as ^Blizzerand^
aguitel	http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/	12:12
krychek	to3000: it will be released only tomorrow	12:12
finaltune	no	12:12
finaltune	d	12:12
finaltune	today	12:12
r3c0n	is this the final stable version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	12:12
pyxi	i know the release is today but does any body know what time today ?	12:12
tsimpson	r3c0n: no	12:12
Alfrenovsky	if it's not out yet, why http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ URLS doesn't incude any RC	12:12
tsimpson	stop posting links	12:13
Myrtti	ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party	12:13
tsimpson	it's not out	12:13
pspsampsp__	get ubuntu 9.04 at releases.ubuntu.com	12:13
r3c0n	are you tricking me to take all the bandwidth? :P	12:13
r3c0n	lulz.. ok ill cancel this one	12:13
JPSman	hrm - having problems with add/remove and synaptic finding necessary packages. Is that because everyone is focusing on 9.04?	12:13
Alfrenovsky	Myrtti, Ok, sorry for posting the url, I'm asking why the files in this URL hace no "rc"	12:13
brinstar	yes id like to know why also	12:14
DJones	JPSman: Its probably that people are hitting the servers looking for 9.04 causing time outs etc	12:15
JPSman	DJones: greeaat. Thanks anyway :OD Still using 7.10 myself	12:15
brinstar	can someone unban me from ubuntu-release-party? i didnt know i couldnt post links	12:15
Le-Chuck_ITA	is there a command line client to bring a window to the front? I would like to make a script that opens an already existing alltray client	12:15
Extend	JPSman, 7.10 reached end of lifetime	12:15
JPSman	Extend: what does that mean?	12:16
Myrtti	Alfrenovsky, brinstar: while the files on $URL might be not named as "RC"s, there still might be some changes to them with rsync. The files are named as they are so that the mirrors could get the files before the release. Please do not download those files yet and give the mirrors a chance first.	12:16
DJones	!eol \| JPSman	12:16
ubottu	JPSman: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases	12:16
Extend	JPSman, that means you are not receiving updates	12:16
Myrtti	Alfrenovsky, brinstar did that explain it at all?	12:16
brinstar	Myrtti: in other words, theres a strong likelihood that those are the final isos?	12:17
[1]kino	i'm new to linux, so please excuse my ignorance. I am running the live cd with ubuntu 8.04. If I install a codec, after I remove the live cd, meaning I close the session, will the codec "be there" next time I run the live cd? It stays installed in the computer?	12:17
krychek	[1]kino: no	12:17
holdenss	no	12:17
james7493	brinstar: We all get it quicker if the mirrors get it first.	12:17
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Matr\|X	hello	12:18
inaeternum	the livecd doesn't touch your computer unless you choose to install	12:18
[1]kino	krychek: so every time i run the live cd and i want to see a video, I'll need to reinstall the codec again?	12:18
Matr\|X	help me with lamp-server	12:18
Alfrenovsky	Myrtti. Ok. i'll wait, anyway no one should download the isos directly. Torrent is a best option So we all can share bandwith	12:18
DaveCo	!release	12:18
ubottu	Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases	12:18
Myrtti	brinstar: might be, might not, I'm not the release master so I wouldn't know. I strongly recommend you NOT to download anything yet so the mirrors will get a chance first	12:18
DaveCo	!jaunty	12:18
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	12:18
Alfrenovsky	Matr\|X, What do you need with LAMP ?	12:18
Matr\|X	i had unstall lamp-server and when i install it agine now :S its not working	12:18
JPSman	What will the next LTS be?	12:19
Matr\|X	ah thex alfenovsky	12:19
Spikius	if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net	12:19
inaeternum	does ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?	12:19
brinstar	10.04 JPSman	12:19
Spikius	if i would like to write script in mirc to connect to freenode, then identify and the join some chan, so it would be like >> .server -m irc.freenode.net \| ns identify pass \| join #chan?	12:19
Spikius	sorry for a flood :)	12:19
Matr\|X	here wht is the problem when i do the commands sudo tasksel install lamp-server	12:19
brinstar	6.06 > 8.04 > 10.04	12:19
joaopinto	Spikius, we don't support mirc here	12:20
Spikius	:)	12:20
Matr\|X	its stopped in 79 % with Configuring mysql-server-5.0	12:20
Moonlit	brinstar - I thought you were listing your favourite versions for a sec there lol	12:20
joaopinto	Spikius, do you mean x-chat script ? try the xchat channel	12:20
Matr\|X	plz help me	12:20
Spikius	no, i mean mirc :), im currently logged on into windows	12:20
Matr\|X	i came yestrday and i some one told me its stringes	12:20
Alfrenovsky	Matr\|X, can't understand what is exactly your problem.	12:20
krychek	[1]kino: some codecs are already installed by default but you are right otherwise.. vlc doesnt need codecs i dont know if its on the live cd	12:20
inaeternum	it's not	12:21
inaeternum	totem is	12:21
maijkkk	Does anyone know where I can get information about when Kubuntu will be released?	12:21
krychek	tomorrow	12:21
[1]kino	krychek: so to watch a video with the live cd, I need to reinstall the codecs every time again	12:21
jiffe1	hmm	12:21
jiffe1	what time does mcd's open	12:21
FlyOnThe1all	jiffe1: check their websites	12:21
Mylisto	630 m	12:21
Mylisto	am	12:21
Mylisto	I think	12:22
inaeternum	[1]kino: you have to, unless they are pre-installed (like Theora)	12:22
brinstar	10.04 is my favourite version	12:22
jiffe1	yeah, I'm not finding it on their site	12:22
JPSman	If I jump from 7.10 to 9.04, what should I expect? What do i need to back up?	12:22
[1]kino	krychek: can I install vlc in every live cd session?	12:22
krychek	[1]kino: live cd wont "remember" any changes after each reboot... maybe you should use a pendrive linux instead	12:22
inaeternum	does somebodyknow if ubuntu contain proprietary firmware blobs if I install it with the "free software only" option?	12:23
brinstar	JPSman: expect a faster system	12:23
JPSman	sure sure, but, what things will change? will my desktop erase or will my icons be there? will I have to install all my apps again?	12:24
brinstar	depends, not sure	12:25
Fethi	hi	12:25
Kruxer	!ubuntu	12:26
ubottu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	12:26
MaT-dg	JPSman: hope for the best, prepare for the worst: ALWAYS make a backup of important documents.	12:26
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nixz	wow 1612 nicks	12:26
Matr\|X	ye[	12:27
JPSman	I just dont want to have to wrastle with my nvidia drivers again :OP	12:27
Homre	Hello all, i have a little question about how to install a NVIDIA driver. I've been trying to install the 3 version that you can find under"restricted drivers available". But whenever i install it, and reboot my computer i can't load the GUI of ubuntu. I've also been reading up about this, but i can't seem to get the drivers working right. Any help possible?	12:28
Le-Chuck_ITA	are there packages for multi-pointer X in some ubuntu unofficial repository?	12:28
Homre	I'm also very new to ubuntu, so please take contact in a private room if you have any suggestions about what i can do.	12:29
kbingham	how do i get the 9.04 release upgrade? do i have to run apt-get separately, its not showing any upgrade. Is it just not released through the package manager yet?	12:29
dn4	Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be?	12:29
rubaha	привет	12:30
Vezir	is anyone here in seattle? we should have a release party.	12:30
glyj	Homre : did you had a look at the wiki ?	12:30
JPSman	a yes a release party	12:30
tsimpson	!jaunty	12:30
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	12:30
dn4	!topic	12:30
ubottu	Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic	12:30
Spikius	kbingham then it will be out, you will be offered to upgrade	12:30
Spikius	or you can simply run "dist-upgrade"	12:30
mattseh	im grabbing it now via torrent :)	12:30
dn4	Jaunty/9.04 support/discussion in #ubuntu+1 \| Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be	12:30
Spikius	mattgyver as i know its still the RC1 or smth like that via torrents	12:31
Spikius	9.04 its not out yet	12:31
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mattseh	http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ - seems final to me?	12:31
=== nixz is now known as nixzs
tsimpson	mattseh: no, it's not	12:31
mattseh	RC?	12:32
Spikius	yup	12:32
Spikius	its just been renamed :)	12:32
tsimpson	when you see the announcement on the front page of ubuntu.com, then you know	12:32
=== nixz is now known as nixzs
mattseh	if it's been renamed, then it is likely to become the release version?	12:32
tsimpson	no	12:32
koshar1	it is out now	12:33
tsimpson	don't download anything until the announcement	12:33
progre55	hi everybody! when is the ubuntu 9.04 coming out?	12:33
tsimpson	!jaunty	12:33
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	12:33
tsimpson	it's not out yet, just wait	12:33
Myrtti	ATTENTION: Jaunty is not yet released, and posting any links for downloads, be they torrents or to the isos themselves will get you kicked from the channel! Proceed to Party On at #ubuntu-release-party	12:33
koshar1	9.04 its out now, it may just take time for some of the mirrors to catch up	12:33
zaggynl	:o	12:33
shauno	when you see laptops & bearded geeks in pubs, you'll know it's time	12:33
mattseh	heh	12:33
sidewalk	it is released	12:33
zaggynl	but it's available on a mirror	12:34
sidewalk	update-manager says there is a new version available	12:34
sidewalk	or?	12:34
=== darkdrizzt is now known as register1
koshar1	its wise to wait a little of use the torrent otherwise the mirrors get knocked around a bit	12:35
Spikius	of course :)	12:35
fabzor3	hi	12:35
fabzor3	im trying to change my console resoultion	12:35
Shortyyy	hi, does anyone knoow if Ubuntu 9.04 i out today? I notice the countdown on the site has stopped	12:35
fabzor3	im just wondering how to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file	12:36
peti	hy	12:36
Spikius	!jaunty	12:36
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	12:36
peti	hello	12:36
Shortyyy	thanks!	12:36
georgi	hi all	12:36
drinkycrow	never count out installing random sound libraries until something works	12:36
Spikius	fabzor3... well.. you can either use 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'	12:36
fabzor3	cos it says dont uncomment the linuc bu/boot/grub/menu.lst cos it say dont uncomment but if thats the case where do i make the change	12:36
mr_frostee	I just checked the site. 9.04 doesn't appear to be available yet.	12:37
fabzor3	yeah its cool i can edit it fine	12:37
koshar1	when will ubottu be updated?	12:37
zaggynl	main site worked for me	12:37
Spikius	or you can install startupmanager > does more or less everything	12:37
fabzor3	im just wondering about the way i should edit it	12:37
koshar1	mr_frostee depends where you look	12:37
fabzor3	hmm cool thanks i might try installing startupmanager	12:37
mr_frostee	9.04 RC has been working good for me, except flash in firefox still doesn't work.	12:37
SPF	fabzor3: http://www.linuxquestions.org/blog/archtoad6-147095/2007/12/29/vga-resolution-codes-for-grub-and-lilo-830/	12:38
gachiman111	join #ubuntu-release-part	12:38
Shortyyy	thanks everyone :)	12:38
fabzor3	SPF: thanks looking now :D	12:38
Mylisto	now you guys are getting me interested in using Jaunty...	12:38
Mylisto	whats up with the notebook editions?	12:38
gachiman111	join #ubuntu-release-party	12:39
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MarkJones	Doesnt seem to be #ubuntu-release-part	12:40
nshepperd	seems to me the official ubuntu.com download page should push bittorrent harder	12:40
nshepperd	"#ubuntu-release-party"	12:40
MarkJones	sorry got cut off. Cant find it though	12:40
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Master-Mind	Hey someone there have tried the new 9.04 ?	12:41
nshepperd	the download servers always get whacked...	12:41
nshepperd	I'm using it now	12:41
acr0nym	hello	12:41
MarkJones	I have the Jaunty-RC installed and using right now.	12:41
nshepperd	have been since alpha 4	12:41
acr0nym	I have a little problem, just installed easytag, but the windows is too big for my screen (eeepc) and I cannot make it smaller	12:42
acr0nym	any ideas?	12:42
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MarkJones	acrOnym have you tried holding ALT key and moving window around to resize etc?	12:42
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rubaha	привет	12:43
acr0nym	I can move it around I can change the horizontal size, but not the vertical size	12:43
acr0nym	so I'm missing about the third of the window	12:43
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lizzzzard	acr0nym: there is also a script/config hint on one of the wiki sites about allowing programs to switch to fullscreen using alt+f11, I believe. this could help	12:44
rubaha	здесь на русском?	12:44
acr0nym	thanks, I'll look into it	12:44
MarkJones	acr0nym: I just installed easytag and it seems fine on mine.You have all updates?	12:44
=== raistlinpowrr is now known as raistlinpowr
Mr_Kaizer	rubaha: #ubuntu-ru	12:45
acr0nym	I'm on rc release of jaunty and I installed it with sudo apt-get install easytag	12:45
lizzzzard	acr0nym: tell me if something works, inkscape does a similar thing for me	12:45
acr0nym	I have version 2.1.4	12:45
acr0nym	lizzzzard, will do	12:45
phix	how long now?	12:45
lizzzzard	thx	12:45
MarkJones	Who knows	12:45
kalib	the 9.04 will be released today?	12:45
phix	yeah	12:45
MarkJones	yes today	12:45
nshepperd	phix: about 3 meters	12:46
phix	it is 21:45 on THursday here :)	12:46
phix	it will be Friday soon, they better hurry up :P	12:46
_kal_	kalib: ubuntu 9.04 is already released	12:46
phix	:D	12:46
debsan	8 :46 am here	12:46
phix	_kal_: where/	12:46
jingjing	ubuntu is now realese?	12:47
kalib	_kal_, I mean the final one...	12:47
debsan	thursday just begins	12:47
zykes-	_kal_: where is it ?	12:47
nebjakSRB	http://rs.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	12:47
nebjakSRB	final?	12:48
iceroot	nebjakSRB: look at the date from the torrent	12:48
_kal_	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso	12:48
iceroot	nebjakSRB: its from tooday	12:48
jingjing	http://mirror1.ku.ac.th/jaunty/ <-- this is jaunty realese?	12:48
tsimpson	jingjing: no, and don't post links	12:48
ziroday	jingjing: no	12:48
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phix	nshepperd: :D metric! yay	12:48
jingjing	tsimpson: zirodaythankyou	12:49
MrKeishii	in american version of the ubuntu site it is not released yet	12:49
abchirk	ehm why I can create with mkfs.ext4 ext4 partitions when I can't use them... mount /dev/sda2 new -> unknown file system type ext4! :(	12:49
* jingjing wait time for realese		12:49
phix	what does ext4 provide that ext3 doesn't?	12:49
phix	because the increment version number	12:50
phix	because = besides	12:50
phix	typos	12:50
lizzzzard	!isitout \| jingjing	12:50
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Oli``	phix: some things are a lot faster	12:50
ubottu	jingjing: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	12:50
ziroday	phix: its faster, unbelievable fsck times and other stuffs	12:50
abchirk	phix I read about better performance	12:50
X-TaZ	phix : there is a good page on wikipedia about it	12:50
MarkJones	ext4 : http://www.linfo.org/ext4fs.html	12:50
X-TaZ	Yes, performance improved	12:50
\|ns\|nR8	how long till its official and all the repos go down	12:50
xarvh	is xubuntu also ready?	12:51
ziroday	\|ns\|nR8: before midnight samoan time	12:51
abchirk	But what can I do that my intrepid mounts my ext4	12:51
ziroday	!isitout \| xarvh	12:51
ubottu	xarvh: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	12:51
Spikius	hmz is the any 9.04 official banner?	12:51
abchirk	I want to debootstrap debian on it. :)	12:51
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Pici	!party	12:51
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	12:51
=== nebjakSRB is now known as nebjak
pawel_	how to minimize fullscreen game?	12:51
jingjing		12:52
Spikius	xexexe	12:52
acr0nym	I haven't found a way to fix it, but alt+moving works fine for now :)	12:52
Spikius	lithuania still wins in most release partys	12:52
progre55	oh, is there any cool games under ubuntu??	12:52
progre55	other than cards and stuff :)	12:52
Oli``	progre55: yes, quite a few	12:52
FlyOnThe1all	my personal favourite is bsd-tetris	12:52
MarkJones	Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.	12:52
xarvh	thanks	12:52
lizzzzard	acr0nym: thanks for coming back to tell us anyway	12:53
MrKeishii	yeah there are alot of games	12:53
progre55	no, I mean, more advanced ones, not tetris :)	12:53
Spikius	progre55 there is a LOTS of games..	12:53
MrKeishii	lol	12:53
penguin	is there huge differences between ext3 and etx4?.	12:53
Oli``	progre55: lots of FPSes but WorldOfGoo is excellent if you've got a few spare quid	12:53
Pici	!party	12:53
progre55	Spikius, can you suggest me any, please? )	12:53
kees-	hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'	12:53
xC	at what time will 9.04 be released?	12:53
Spikius	from Quake and other shooters till .. rpg, rts..	12:53
Matr\|X	party wher and when:D	12:53
Matr\|X	(H)	12:53
lizzzzard	progre55: there are some fine games like sauerbraten -- also many windows games run under wine.	12:53
Matr\|X	i love party d	12:53
MarkJones	penguin: Looks like ext4 adds drive sizes up to 1024 terabytes as well as reduced fragmentation as seen in in XFS, Reiser4 and ZFS (developed by Sun Microsystems for use in Solaris) filesystems.	12:53
Pici	!isitout \| xC	12:53
ubottu	xC: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	12:53
\|ns\|nR8	is there an ubuntu party room ?	12:53
\|ns\|nR8	cheers	12:53
Spikius	well.. one of my favorites is OpedTTD (its Transport Tycoon Deluxe rewriten and optimized to be a bit realistic)	12:54
progre55	Oli``, lizzzzard, thanks guys, I'll try them =now :)	12:54
lizzzzard	progre55: there are some linux games list out there. if you tell us a genre maybe we can think of something specific	12:54
sponzor	can you run cisco vpn client on kubuntu?	12:54
JPSman	will the update manager be able to take me from 7.10 to 9.04 ???	12:54
xarvh	progre55: http://www.happypenguin.org/ but right now is down	12:54
lizzzzard	\|ns\|nR8: #ubuntu-release-party	12:55
\|ns\|nR8	thanks lizzzzard	12:55
Oli``	progre55: if you open up add/remove and look in the games section, you can sort the games by order of popularity to get an idea of which games are... erm... most popular	12:55
MarkJones	JPSman why not just download the ISO so you wont have to download the updates again if needed later?	12:55
dantalizing	sponzor: yes you want the network-manager-vpnc package	12:55
progre55	Oli``, thanks man, appreciate! )	12:55
xarvh	how do I allow a secondary user to install programs but without allowing any other root privilege?	12:55
progre55	lizzzzard, smth like counter strike, or online strategy games	12:55
Spikius	xarvh > sudo ?!	12:56
p-f	What's the usual culprit when having battery life issues? I get about 2 hours of battery on linux, 6.5 on windows...	12:56
JPSman	MarkJones: because i dont want to do a whole other install - what about the alternate ISO, could I go from 7.10 to 9.04 that way?	12:56
xarvh	Spikius: do I have to play with sudoers?	12:56
xarvh	Spikius: and enable just apt-get is enough?	12:56
MarkJones	yeah sudo but admin need to be behind the user for password.But yeah that works.	12:56
phix	lizzzzard: it isn't releases yet? but it is in releases.ubuntu.org, or is that the rc?	12:56
phix	hmmm well it isnt marked as being rc	12:56
JPSman	phix - no its there	12:57
Oli``	p-f: not having the right chipset drivers installed. Ubuntu needs to know how to scale your CPU, HDs, etc... If it doesn't have the drivers (or doesn't have them enabled) it won't be able to save power effectively	12:57
MrKeishii	when will it be released in america?	12:57
Spikius	xarvh dont know exactly, bet lets say userB have to install something, so he has to have ability to run apt-get, dpkg maybe.. ant have access to sudo..	12:57
p-f	Oli``: is there a page with a list?	12:57
lizzzzard	phix no, final is not out yet	12:57
berkes	MrKeishii: /topic?	12:57
Spikius	but i cant say for sure	12:57
mib_7ppdsi	could somebody here help me with a problem i have with ubuntu 8.10?	12:57
phix	JPSman: talk to lizzzzard	12:57
dekkong	!ubuntu	12:57
ubottu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	12:57
Oli``	p-f: it really depends on the specific hardware, but if you google for "<your laptop model> ubuntu" you should find somebody else with the same problem	12:57
MarkJones	MrKeishii: When will hwta be released in amaerica?	12:57
p-f	Oli``: alright, thanks	12:57
MarkJones	what*	12:57
phix	MarkJones: your mum	12:58
lizzzzard	progre55: also maybe you like nexuiz	12:58
phix	MarkJones: what else could it be	12:58
abchirk	hm I have the intrepid kernel and it seems that the kernel doesn't provide ext4 maybe I have to load a modul for it?	12:58
JPSman	lizzzzard: but i'm torrenting it now . . . ?	12:58
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phix	abchirk: maybe that is a bad idea	12:58
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lizzzzard	JPSman: it says on the release notes page	12:58
dfs	how to install softwaref rom the ubuntu cd	12:58
Guest86118	hi	12:58
progre55	lizzzzard, cool, I'll try it now :) thanks man	12:58
MarkJones	Well you have to like live under a rock to like not know. Ubuntu.com is worldwide not just US.	12:58
Oli``	p-f: there are lists, but they're not very well maintained. You'll likely have better luck finding a specific how-to about your laptop (if it's popular) or other people asking for help on the forums if it's less popular	12:58
lizzzzard	JPSman: about updating.	12:58
MarkJones	stupid freaking people.	12:58
JPSman	lizzzzard: thank you :OD	12:58
Spikius	abchirk you thing that "havving" kernel is enough? :)	12:58
Pici	!isitout \| MarkJones	12:58
ubottu	MarkJones: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	12:58
Pici	!party	12:59
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	12:59
abchirk	phix If you do not like it... don't use it	12:59
lizzzzard	progre55: that'd be 'mam instead of man ;)	12:59
comair	hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?	12:59
Spikius	kernel only brings you support for a ext4	12:59
phix	abchirk: I dont use it	12:59
lizzzzard	progre55: or whatever americans say	12:59
abchirk	Spikius hehe no... just wondering how can I get support for this filesystem?	12:59
phix	abchirk: for that reson	12:59
MarkJones	That darn bot needs some new AI	12:59
kandinsk1	preferred hex editor for changing text strings in a program?	12:59
lizzzzard	JPSman: what you are downloading is likely the release candidate or a fake.	12:59
Guest86118	do i need to setup any AV's or spyware on my linux installation?	12:59
kandinsk1	I have the source but I can't make it compile, so I am going for the dirty approach	13:00
rumpel	@guest why?	13:00
Pici	Guest86118: Not unless you're hosting files for Windows users and want to be extra secure.	13:00
dfs	i have loaded the ubuntu installation cd and i dont find any software on it in synaptic package manager. does the cd not come with any software packages	13:00
phix	lizzzzard: look on ftp://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/	13:00
Spikius	abchirk well if you use .. 8.04 or 8.10 then its more or less EASY if youll do it on partition that can be unmounted easily	13:00
phix	lizzzzard: the official site is a fake too?	13:00
znik	anyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?	13:00
Pici	phix: Its not out. Please stop posting links.	13:00
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progre55	lizzzzard, oops, sorry mam :) didnt know you were a lady =)	13:00
phix	Pici: ok	13:00
phix	haha	13:00
phix	well I guess I will go to sleep then :(	13:00
Spikius	youll need kernel and fs driver if i remember it correctly	13:00
Oli``	Guest11562: If you're downloading dodgy stuff and sharing it with Windows machines, getting some anti-virus might be something to consider. Less of an issue for other malware though.	13:00
abchirk	Spikius I have 8.10 and I can create ext4 but I can't mount it	13:01
MarkJones	ok im outa here its just redundant questions over and over.later guys	13:01
comair	hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?	13:01
Guest86118	Pici, i'm not hosting any files for Windows Users but i do want to be extra secure..	13:01
xarvh	Spikius: ok, thanks, i'll messa round with sudo	13:01
lizzzzard	phix: I imagine this would be what this page links to? http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta	13:01
Pici	Guest86118: Theres no chance that you yourself will become infected.	13:01
bouma	loafers	13:01
bouma	seems like loafers left	13:02
znik	anyone aware of any open source summer programs like google summer of code?	13:02
Pici	!ot	13:02
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	13:02
Pici	!party	13:02
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	13:02
Guest86118	Pici, even for spywares?	13:02
Pici	Guest86118: Indeed.	13:02
Spikius	abchirk	13:02
Guest86118	Pici, tnx	13:02
dfs	how do i install programs in ubuntu without internet connection. that is by using the installation cd. heard that it contains some extra software. after all it was a big download	13:02
Spikius	did you tried looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html or smth like this?	13:02
kees-	hm, partman doesn't detect my harddisk; but fdisk (and the kernel etc does).. is there any way i can manually do the things partman does, and skip over it to 'install the base system'? aka; what does partman do :P	13:02
bouma	i was going to say i can download the webstart standalone kgs client.. and it works.. but my firefox still wont play java.. but i dont care as much, cause ive got the two java programs i need most to run standalone	13:02
sourcemaker	how can I install the ubuntu server with encrypted FS (LUKS LVM) like the alternative ubuntu installation?	13:02
Oli``	Pici: That's a dangerous statement.. There's always a chance.	13:02
phix	lizzzzard: look at it --> lrwxrwxrwx 1 1000 1000 37 Apr 23 07:43 ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso -> ../.pool/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso	13:02
bouma	still 64 bit java has evaded me, ive pretty much given up	13:02
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phix	lizzzzard: does that look beta to you?	13:03
bouma	lol	13:03
comair	hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?	13:03
lizzzzard	phix http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/beta links there.	13:03
phix	bouma: 64bit java ay, they have long long;s? :)	13:03
Lint01	I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?	13:03
bouma	btw will 9.04 fix 64 bit java for me ?	13:03
abchirk	Spikius no.. look :)	13:03
Spikius	:)	13:03
lizzzzard	phix so yeah, looks beta to me	13:03
mib_7ppdsi	my computer with ubuntu 8.10 won't boot anymore (modprobe abnormal exit), can anybody here help me with this probleme?	13:03
bouma	phix: hrm, yeah i cant get 64 bit java to work	13:03
phix	lizzzzard: hmmm. interesting	13:03
abchirk	I just found an howto in espanol... but no hablo espanol :P	13:03
lightpriest_	9.04 is still RC?	13:04
Pici	Yes.	13:04
bouma	phix: i mean i cant get java to work under firefox, as a plugin, with sun.	13:04
phix	bouma: how would 64bit java work? I mean there is no primitive for a 64bit number, only a 32bit one	13:04
phix	primitive datatype that is	13:04
abchirk	Spikius but the problem is that my kernel doesn't support it, I guess because he doesn't know the filesystem. :(	13:04
dfs	is it just me or does ubuntu suck.	13:04
iceroot	dfs: its only you	13:04
lightpriest_	dfs, it's just you ;p	13:04
bouma	phix: no real8's or complex16's ?	13:04
phix	dfs: debian for the win :D	13:04
lizzzzard	I am out of here, just the same questions again and again today. Maybe later. Seeya	13:05
Spikius	abchirk you just said that kernel SUPPORTS it.. so ...	13:05
phix	bouma: ?	13:05
Spikius	does it or does it not?	13:05
lightpriest_	phix, testing or stable?	13:05
bouma	phix: fortran	13:05
Spikius	!jaunty	13:05
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	13:05
abchirk	Spikius I thought he has to... but he doesn't ;)	13:05
Mylisto	I eventually want to update to jaunty from 8.4 whats the chance that something can go wrong?	13:05
phix	bouma: I know nothing about fortran, he are talking about java	13:05
bouma	phix: double prec..	13:05
Nataliee	http://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=1426169	13:05
Nataliee	http://www.ihateyounatalie.com/?id=1426169	13:05
FloodBot2	Nataliee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:05
phix	the only thing I know about fortran is to stay away from it	13:05
kendrick	oh noes. my firefox!?!?!?!	13:06
bouma	phix: well you started talking about programming.. i just want to get firefox java to work	13:06
dfs	iceroot this thing is worse than windows it does not even have proper shortcut keys	13:06
Spikius	abchirk well if you know what ur doing, you can manually compile your kernel	13:06
hbekel	abchirk: zcat /proc/config.gz \| grep EXT4	13:06
bouma	phix: under 64 bit ubuntu 8.10 .. do you think 9.04 will fix all my problems	13:06
phix	bouma: so what does 64bit have to do with it?	13:06
phix	bouma: it is still a 32bit binary though	13:06
Lint01	I've suddenly lost the sound, how can I troubleshoot it?	13:06
abchirk	Spikius hm yes... :/ isn't there any module	13:06
dfs	i was expecting ubuntu to have atleast some basic shortcut keys	13:06
g_	is it a good idea to upgrade right now?	13:06
dfs	enough with it	13:07
Spikius	abchirk hell knows..	13:07
phix	bouma: I was put off by you saying 64bit java	13:07
abchirk	hbekel I haven't this config....	13:07
abchirk	hehe	13:07
lightpriest_	dfs, you could define them in gnome	13:07
bouma	phix: is it? so ubuntu 64 will run 32 and 64bit software together ? am i able to use 32bit java plugin with 64bit firefox ?	13:07
phix	bouma: of corse	13:07
bouma	phix: do i need to switch to 32bit firefox ?	13:07
GNUix	wow talk about a long dance.. just ask the quesiton does 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin	13:07
lightpriest_	dfs, depends on the window manager you use	13:07
bouma	GNUix: does it ?	13:07
lightpriest_	lol	13:07
hbekel	abchirk: if you want help, be specific	13:07
GNUix	bouma: couldn't tell you, I downloaded it and installed it myself	13:08
bouma	does 9.04 has the new 64bit sun java plugin?	13:08
kendrick	so adept told me some updates were available. they all seemed to be firefox3 and xulrunner-related (are there logs i can look at to find out precisely what was updated?)	13:08
Gun_Smoke	hbekel, what no glass ball?	13:08
kendrick	(this is on 8.10 btw)	13:08
dfs	lightpriest_: sorry guys honestly i dont see shortcut keys for those three things on the top no underlined letters either. places and system	13:08
abchirk	hbekel I created a ext4 partition under ubuntu 8.10 but I can't mount it.. -> unknown filesystem type ext4	13:08
bouma	GNUix: thats the go is it ? downloading and building your own deb ?	13:08
phix	bouma: that could work, although I don't think a 32bit plugin would have any issues running on a 64bit application	13:08
kendrick	now when i launch firefox i get a grey window with no menu bar. there is the throbber at the top right.	13:08
hbekel	abchirk: what did the command i told you return?	13:08
Gun_Smoke	1600+ today eh... release must be soon.. lol..	13:09
phix	bouma: unless of corse there at coding differences in the plugin api	13:09
GNUix	bouma: No, I just downloaded the binary, ran it and symlinked it to my plugin folder	13:09
kendrick	it seems to respond to Ctrl+O (open dialog appears) and Ctrl+L (a completely empty tiny window appears)	13:09
kendrick	Gun_Smoke: heh	13:09
dfs	for applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key	13:09
abchirk	hbekel I haven't config.gz	13:09
phix	bouma: I would say that would be pretty standard to allow plugins to work in the first place ;)	13:09
lightpriest_	dfs, what? :)	13:09
comair	hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?	13:09
lightpriest_	dfs, what about ALT+f1?	13:09
dfs	for applications thereis alt+f1 .but for system and places no shortcut key	13:09
lizzzzard	kendrick: did you restart it? it sometimes behaves that way after updates	13:09
abchirk	But its a standard kernel from intrepid hbekel	13:09
kendrick	any ideas how to diagnose what broke? or at least roll back to the previous version?	13:10
GNUix	phix: It isn't rocked science 32bit plugins don't work with 64bit browsers without middleware..	13:10
kendrick	lizzzzard: yes. i noticed it wasn't going to an URL, realized that adept had finished, so i quit and restarted.	13:10
kendrick	that's when it just came up grey	13:10
dfs	in windows i used to use keybreeze to launch my applications but in ubuntu i am having to use the stupid mouse	13:10
kendrick	dfs - tried kde? ;)	13:10
lightpriest_	dfs, how long did it took to find out about keybreeze?	13:11
phix	GNUix: you dont say	13:11
kendrick	hrm. now my big grey broken firefox window does not seem to respond to Ctrl+O or Ctrl-L shortcuts :(	13:11
phix	GNUix: most new apps would have that compatibilty, otherwise it is a shit app :)	13:11
kendrick	if i launch firefox from a term and give it an URL, it seems to load the page (though not render it), because i see the title in the titlebar	13:11
yeayea911	hi	13:11
lizzzzard	dfs: there is an app that allows the same thing, i cant remember its name right now, will tell you when it comes back to me	13:11
kendrick	e.g., i now have a useless gre window with the title "Google - Mozilla Firefox"	13:12
hbekel	abchirk: do you have /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version>/.config?	13:12
lightpriest_	dfs, you could simply use alt+f2 or you could define a combination per command	13:12
joaopinto	dfs, please feel free to write a bug report explaining your problem	13:12
GNUix	phix: why would you want to use middleware to wrap a 32bit plugin to work in a 64bit browser if you can just use the 64bit plugin	13:12
kendrick	btw - i had no funky firefox plugins. just firebug.	13:12
dfs	but why didnt they put any shortcut key that was like obvius	13:12
Type3Singularity	dfs: There are a few dozen alternative to keybreeze	13:12
brinstar	can someone unban me from ubuntu release party?	13:13
abchirk	hbekel yes... and there is EXT4DEV as module and EXT4DEV all yes	13:13
Gun_Smoke	brinstar, haha.. how'd you get that?	13:14
lightpriest_	lol	13:14
Mylisto	what did you do brinstar:?	13:14
dfs	ok i dont want to annoy u guys too much . i see there are enough friendly people in the ubuntu communuty though at any rate.even if ubuntu sucks.	13:14
Mylisto	bad language?	13:14
brinstar	posted a link :S	13:14
brinstar	i didnt know that was considered a deadly sin	13:14
lizzzzard	dfs: you might be interested in gnome-do: http://do.davebsd.com/	13:14
Mylisto	what link?	13:14
hbekel	abchirk: did you modprobe ext4dev	13:14
brinstar	the releases dot ubuntu one	13:14
kendrick	hrm. moving ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla-bak and launching firefox does not help	13:14
alex2	!jaunty	13:14
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	13:14
lightpriest_	dfs, what's "obvious" in windows is open for you to customize in ubuntu/linux	13:14
kendrick	and, in fact, a new .mozilla is not created	13:15
brinstar	not like everyone doesnt know it anyway	13:15
brinstar	can someone unban me	13:16
Gun_Smoke	brinstar, I'd bet your going to sit this one out..	13:16
bazhang	brinstar, /j #ubuntu-ops	13:16
abchirk	hbekel ah if I use ext4dev as fs I can mount it... but not ext4 only, whats the difference?	13:16
GNUix	somebody should update the bot and include a timezone because in Korea it is april 23rd	13:16
brinstar	ok bazhang i'll ask	13:16
yeayea911	where is my 9.04 system update	13:16
yeayea911	:)	13:16
kendrick	dpkg.log shows me that the packages it updated this morning were: "firefox-3.0-branding 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2	13:17
kendrick	3.0.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1"	13:17
kendrick	err rather	13:17
* kendrick sighs		13:17
hbekel	abchirk: your kernel still has the unstable development version. You should upgrade to a 2.6.30 kernel, and even then it's on your own risk. ext4 is pretty new	13:17
Imker	die!	13:17
kendrick	"firefox-3.0-branding xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support xulrunner-1.9 firefox-3.0-gnome-support firefox-3.0 firefox firefox-gnome-support"	13:18
JPSman	"it is not out yet"	13:18
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kendrick	so, uh... how do i downgrade?	13:18
abchirk	hbekel is it easy with 8.10 to upgrade the kernel?	13:18
JPSman	kendrick - download an older version and install it	13:18
rski	abchirk: Not too easy if you haven't compiled a kernel before.	13:18
Guba	when will came new ubuntu	13:19
hbekel	abchirk: upgrading a kernel isn't too hard if you know what you're doing	13:19
rski	abchirk: also what kind of upgrade are you talking about	13:19
Doble	can anyone tell me how to run a scipt? I'm trying "sudo Linux/install.sh" but I recieve "Command not found"	13:19
abchirk	Ok I thought I can do it over synaptic. :) rski about ext4 :)	13:19
Mr_Kaizer	Okey...Ubuntu is freaking me out now...	13:19
kendrick	i seem to have older ones in my apt cache	13:19
lightpriest_	Doble, what do you want to do?	13:20
Guba	how much is a "coming soon"?	13:20
acr0nym	Doble, I'm not sure but I think you might have to put ./ infront of it	13:20
rski	abchirk: easiest way will be to wait untill 9.04 and upgrade to that and it will support etx, it will be released pretty soon today or tomorow.	13:20
acr0nym	like ./install.sh	13:20
rski	ext4*	13:20
Mr_Kaizer	It's been broken for 3 days now, been unable to get the desktop to load properly, now it suddenly works without me having done anything O-o	13:20
hbekel	abchirk: you shouldn't use ect4dev for important data. if you just play around with it, don't mind upgrading the kernel	13:20
acr0nym	you have to cd first into Linux though	13:20
JPSman	so the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the kubuntu uses KDE and ubuntu uses gnome?	13:20
Doble	lightpriest_: I am trying to install xenserver tools ... i have to run the install script to begin the install.	13:20
lightpriest_	rski, I installed the rc and ext4 is not the default	13:20
henkpoley	Mr_Kaizer: You mean X11 didn't run? Maybe it now started the VESA fallback ?	13:20
lightpriest_	Doble, have you downloaded the source package?	13:20
henkpoley	Mr_Kaizer: or your hardware is failing	13:21
abchirk	hbekel yeah its only for a small debian for my laptop :)	13:21
rski	lightpriest_: Yes. but that's not what we talked about.	13:21
Aberration23	Hi all!	13:21
Type3Singularity	JPSman: Basically, theres a load of different desktop applications though	13:21
alex2	i cant wait for jaunty	13:21
hbekel	hbekel: i don't know how heavily patched the ubuntu kernels are. using a vanilla 2.6.30 might break stuff. better wait for ubuntu to ship 2.6.30 if you want a stable ext4	13:21
Aberration23	I tried to install tomboy but my internet connection failed me in the middle of it. I cant' remove the brocken tomboy...help	13:21
DaveCo	!jaunty	13:21
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	13:21
kendrick	CRAP!!!!!!!	13:21
sourcemaker	ubuntu server contains the function: Encrypted private directory... how can I encrypted the whole fs?	13:22
hbekel	abchirk: and although ext4 support is considered ready now, it's still very fresh	13:22
Doble	lightpriest_: no, I got it out of the ISO and copied it to the server guest using SSH	13:22
kendrick	kendrick@dell-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$ sudo dpkg -i firefox-3.0-branding_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb firefox-3.0-gnome-support_3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support_1.9.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.1_i386.deb	13:22
kendrick	blah blah warning downgrading...	13:22
Mr_Kaizer	henkpoley: Unsure...I've been suspecting HW error, but it ran just fine from the Live CD, even though it wouldn't boot normaly.	13:22
kendrick	but it's STILL giving me this weird grey window!!?! OMG	13:22
Spikius	tsimpson are you available? :)	13:22
abchirk	hbekel I know thats why I want to test it.. and see if its really faster. :)	13:22
* Vegar looks for the countdown timer		13:22
Mr_Kaizer	sudo release-9.04 :D	13:23
abchirk	hbekel or I download an 9.04 iso and make with that the ext4 and the debootstrap	13:23
tsimpson	Spikius: not exactly	13:23
hadis	anyone can help me , i cant install stellarium-0.10.0.tgz	13:23
lightpriest_	Doble, i'm not sure if that will get you a good result... have you searched it in the repositories?	13:23
henkpoley	hadis: What is it saying ?	13:23
henkpoley	hadis: pastbin the error	13:24
joaopinto	hadis, isn't stelarium available from the repositories ?	13:24
zcat[1]	hadis, any reason you're not installing from the repos?	13:24
armagheddonsgw	hi, someone help me please... some arse shut down my comp while it was updating ubuntu... now it doesnt work. atm im using the live CD cos every OS on my comp is buggered.. anyway i can repair ubuntu? it refuses to start cos of some file or... whatever... that it cant find/ connect to	13:24
henkpoley	hadis: pastebin even	13:24
Doble	lightpriest_: no, I tried "sudo apt-get install xen-tools" but didn't find anything, how can I search for it?	13:24
Spikius	well a quick question to u theh > do u know in what form in #ubuntu-release-party chan will be announced release? i would like to do "highlite" on that text so i would hear it :)	13:24
hbekel	abchirk: yes, you might want to do that	13:24
lightpriest_	Doble, what exactly do you need again? i'll look it up	13:24
pan1nx	anybody that can explain why the dm-snapshot.ko is not in linux-image-generic but in linux-image-386 only?	13:24
Mr_Kaizer	My monitor keeps showing up as "Unknown", is there any way to fix that?	13:24
Boohbah	!info xen-tools	13:24
ubottu	xen-tools (source: xen-tools): Tools to manage Debian XEN virtual servers. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.9-3 (intrepid), package size 175 kB, installed size 976 kB	13:25
dansmith91	Hey, if we can't ask 'when' (for the release), where can we ask that?	13:25
abchirk	hbekel I guess its better :) thanks for you help	13:25
hbekel	abchirk: i wouldn't for a production machine	13:25
Boohbah	Doble: make sure to enable the universe repo	13:25
Doble	lightpriest_: sorry, I just got it working ... should have tried that first	13:25
abchirk	hbekel yeah me too... its just a laptop for wardrivin. :)	13:25
armagheddonsgw	umm... help please?	13:25
lightpriest_	:)	13:25
Doble	boohbah: yeah I just missed a really obvious fix hehe, thanks :)	13:25
Doble	thanks for help both	13:25
DASPRiD	dansmith91, soon™	13:25
Boohbah	Doble: welcome :)	13:25
yeayea911	where is my 9.04 system update	13:26
DASPRiD	yeayea911, soon™	13:26
DASPRiD	or just:	13:26
rski	yeayea911: not released yet	13:26
DASPRiD	yeayea911, update-manager -d	13:26
JPSman	yeayea911 - what version are you currently using?	13:26
yeayea911	8.10	13:26
rjharv	http://releases.ubuntu.com/	13:26
rjharv	9.04 is there	13:26
rjharv	:P	13:26
fabzor3	out to ask about 9.04	13:27
rski	it's not released untill it's announced on the mailinglist	13:27
fabzor3	and still am	13:27
rjharv	just teh front page hasn't updated	13:27
* kendrick gives up		13:27
kendrick	i need to get back to bed	13:27
fabzor3	whats the deal is it out yet?	13:27
kendrick	yergh <:^(	13:27
Pici	!isitout	13:27
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	13:27
rski	everything before that i a lie	13:27
rski	fabzor3: correct	13:27
aheckler	rjharv: but i suppose that is the RC, not the "official" release	13:27
fabzor3	but they didnt update thier web page?@!?!	13:27
rjharv	no its not the rc	13:27
DASPRiD	aheckler, doesnt make any diffrence	13:27
yeayea911	nothing in update manager yet	13:27
rjharv	i think they are waiting for the mirrors to sync	13:27
alex2	/join #ubuntu-release-party	13:27
alex2	xD	13:27
DASPRiD	aheckler, better do it now than later when the server bandwidths are all in use ;)	13:27
Aberration23	hello?	13:27
Aberration23	my connection is dead again...	13:27
Aberration23	or not??	13:27
fabzor3	k	13:27
fabzor3	/join #ubuntu-release-party	13:28
J-_	"USB Startup Disk Creator" Will that let me install Ubuntu from USB once I get an image on the usb drive?	13:28
JPSman	Aberration23: maybe	13:28
aheckler	DASPRiD: well i can't really seed the ISO back if i'm busy installing, so i like to wait until the torrents are pretty busy	13:28
Type3Singularity	Its not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'	13:28
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yeayea911	JPSman and DADPRiD nothing in update manager yet	13:28
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DASPRiD	yeayea911, "update-manager -d" ?	13:29
Type3Singularity	There is also a small chance that there is some major bug and they have to fix it at the last minute	13:29
JPSman	yeayea911 - thats because "its not out yet"	13:29
yeayea911	I did update-manager -d nothing	13:29
lantay77	what's the best command line bittorrent client? I want to grab the new ubuntu release today	13:29
yeayea911	happened	13:29
DASPRiD	yeayea911, thats unusuall...	13:29
rski	lantay77: rtorrent works good for me	13:29
rjharv	Type3Singularity is correct	13:29
zaggynl	lantay77: I'm a fan of rtorrent	13:29
yeayea911	weird	13:29
kandinsk1	so which Hex editor do you recommend?	13:29
rski	lantay77: but there's in 99% of cases no "best" client	13:30
rski	for any type of job	13:30
rski	just what you prefer.	13:30
lantay77	yeah.. but i knew of none for command line until now =p	13:30
rski	and that in terms is the best client for you	13:30
lantay77	is ctorrent good?	13:30
alex2	where i can find all Ubuntu rls names ?	13:30
Pici	!codenames \| alex2	13:30
ubottu	alex2: Ubuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more	13:30
rski	alex2: the wiki should have them or wikipedia	13:30
Type3Singularity	lantay77: I like deluge, it has GUI / Webinterface and console. I'm not sure how the console compares to rtorrent though	13:30
alex2	thank you	13:30
lantay77	oh	13:31
defrysk	transmission does the job for me	13:31
danlii	Why does linux_logo default to Debian logo in older releases of Ubuntu and to FreeBSD logo in jaunty?	13:31
Type3Singularity	Deluge also allows for remote GUI clients :)	13:31
DASPRiD	" Karmic	13:31
DASPRiD		13:31
DASPRiD	Koala	13:31
DASPRiD		13:31
DASPRiD	9.10	13:31
FloodBot2	DASPRiD: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	13:31
DASPRiD		13:31
defrysk	deluge tends to use resources	13:31
rski	danlii: that's not true for me. where do you see it?	13:32
italomaia	Where's 9.04???	13:33
aheckler	sigh	13:33
italomaia	today is 23 already!!	13:33
Pici	!isitout \| italomaia	13:33
ubottu	italomaia: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	13:33
Boohbah	italomaia: strange, you're the first person to ask about that today	13:33
blue112	" Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be"	13:34
blue112	Ok xD	13:34
* Mohero sits twiddling his thumbs waiting for the 9.04 release..... it's now 13:33 in the country the press release was in....		13:34
danlii	rski: Just by running linux_logo without altering the config file.	13:34
italomaia	rsrsrs, going to #ubuntu-release-party then	13:34
BoltClock	i have had problems with intrepid regarding i think alsa and networkmanager, and im back to hardy. does jaunty fix the issue, hopefully?	13:34
blue112	Anyway hello :p	13:34
italomaia	blue112, k	13:34
Anakin	did anyone had freezing problems with ubuntu 9.04 rc ? when I try to run apt-get it freezes my entire system	13:34
Boohbah	BoltClock: there's only one way to find out	13:34
defrysk	the Ubuntu release-switch-operator is still sleeping	13:34
Mohero	Anakin: nope	13:34
joaopinto	BoltClock, unless you reported the problem and followed up it's resolution, you will just know by testing...	13:35
=== zcat[1] is now known as is_it_out_yet
Mohero	defrysk: where is he still sleeping? I have acattle-prod... ;-)	13:35
Mohero	and... what's wrong with CRON :P	13:35
BoltClock	joaopinto: i never did resolve it... sigh	13:35
alex2	not out yet	13:35
BoltClock	7.10 totally could not install, 8.04 worked perfectly, 8.10 had alsa and networkmanager shenanigans. gah	13:36
chazco	Hi... how can I check files against a list of md5sums?	13:36
finaltune_	tsimpson: did you tried to ban me? lol	13:36
joaopinto	chazco, md5sum file, then check the results	13:36
Boohbah	chazco: md5sum file	13:36
Mohero	well, one of the guys in the office is on 9.04 RC, he's a SUSE user, but... that wouldn't instal on his system, neither would Fedora, Ubuntu would though ;-)	13:36
Casey	when is 9.04 coming out?	13:37
DASPRiD	Casey, today	13:37
Pici	!isitout \| Casey	13:37
ubottu	Casey: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	13:37
chazco	joaopinto & Boohbah - There used to be a way to make it check against a list and print something like "file1 OK" etc... trying to remember how to do that	13:37
sipior	chazco: if you've a long list to check, try "md5sum -c <filename>"	13:37
* Mohero changes topic to: Ubuntu 9.04 isn't yet released, stop asking...		13:37
Mohero	:P	13:37
DASPRiD	Mohero, heh	13:37
Mr_Kaizer	I'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me. What to do?	13:37
BoltClock	lol	13:37
sipior	chazco: where the file given is the md5sum list	13:37
DASPRiD	Mohero, people should just upgrade to the rc if they cant wait, its stable :)	13:37
chazco	sipior - Ah thanks, thats what I was looking for... thought it was more difficult :)	13:37
Mohero	I agree, unfortunatly I'm not allowed to, because it has the "RC" label :(	13:38
goliath_	bonjour	13:38
skeeter_101	I am running Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window. It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid. Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses?	13:38
DASPRiD	Mohero, whats wrong about that?	13:38
Mohero	not officially released ;)	13:38
Pici	!party	13:38
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	13:38
Mohero	unfortunately, it's a company policy	13:38
Boohbah	Mohero: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM	13:38
Type3Singularity	Or update to the "its not released yet" iso on release.ubuntu.org	13:38
Mohero	one that I WROTE! - but I didn't put that in, Boss added that bit in :(	13:39
skeeter_101	One site that I am talking about is "www.3boutdoors.com"	13:39
Mohero	Boohbah: wasn't me	13:39
=== onats_ is now known as onats
Boohbah	chazco: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM	13:39
goliath_	hi, i have a samsung R610 and i am french	13:39
goliath_	i resolved a problem on samsung	13:39
joaopinto	Mohero, a company policy just testing/using a new release when it's final, it's kind of flawed, on a company you are expected to test new releases sooner	13:39
chazco	Boohbah - Thanks :)	13:40
Pici	!fr \| goliath_	13:40
ubottu	goliath_: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr	13:40
=== tapio is now known as oipoat
Mohero	joaopinto: yes, but not on my main desktop...	13:40
Mohero	joaopinto: I have it on my test machine, runs fine, but can't put it on here till release...	13:40
=== oipoat is now known as tapio
PeteyLustig	hi everybody	13:41
=== tapio is now known as oipat
Mohero	well, I say here, that could be anywhere, ssh is a wonderful thing, I'm all over the place at the moment	13:41
=== timburke_ is now known as timburke
skeeter_101	I am running Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid and have configured my browser "Firefox 3" with mplayer to play embeded videos and on a few sites that I visit often the player buffers the vid and loads and plays, but mplayer does not adjust the size of the vid to fit in the player window. It's like I am only seeing 1/3 of the vid. Is there a way I can make an adjustment to have the vid adjust to size of the window mplayer uses? A site	13:42
skeeter_101	that shows me this issue is "www.3boutdoors.com".......	13:42
oipat	9.04 today, right?	13:42
BoltClock	oipat: thereabouts	13:42
dt3k	oipat: i think its already out	13:42
plsd	dt3k, no	13:42
joaopinto	dt3k, it is not !	13:42
BoltClock	dt3k: no	13:42
dt3k	http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	13:42
DASPRiD	Mohero, oh, btw, april, 12009, will the ubuntu release be 9.04 again then?	13:43
joaopinto	it is out only when it's official announced	13:43
dt3k	mind explaining what this is then?	13:43
brutalis	When the time comes: How do I upgrade my server from from 8.10 to 9.04 from the remote terminal?	13:43
oipat	dt3k: Thanks	13:43
Boohbah	DASPRiD: ten thousand years in the future?	13:43
DASPRiD	brutalis, see ubuntu.com	13:43
BoltClock	brutalis: i think its sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	13:43
DASPRiD	Boohbah, ya ;)	13:43
Type3Singularity	"Its not the RC the md5sums are different, they have to push out the iso to the mirrors so it ends up in the release.ubuntu.org before its officially 'released' and them people in here pretend its not the 'release' because its not 'announced'"	13:43
Mohero	DASPRiD: yes :P	13:43
erUSUL	!upgrade \| brutalis	13:43
ubottu	brutalis: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	13:43
Pici	!party	13:43
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	13:43
BoltClock	oh, remote terminal? then i dunno	13:43
joaopinto	dt3k, that is an image expected to be final, when announced, but not before that	13:44
Mohero	numbering is flawed...	13:44
Mohero	next year, the order will be wrong, due to it bein 9.04 and not 09.04	13:44
Mohero	:)	13:44
goliath_	i have a server do you know "SMEserver" ?	13:44
DASPRiD	Mohero, heh	13:44
DASPRiD	10.04... sounds nice tho	13:44
joaopinto	Type3Singularity, we do not pretende nothing, it is not the final, until it's announced, it may become the final, but is NOT	13:45
skeeter_101	Can someone please assist me with an issue with the adjustment of mplayer in browser?	13:45
BoltClock	joaopinto: is this something like incase a last minute update or whatever gets dropped in there?	13:45
joaopinto	BoltClock, yes, that's is why is a bad practice to assume something is released before it is announced, also because of mirroring concerns	13:46
mrintegrity	whats the limmit on number of users in an irc channel? is it as much as the server has ram to deal with it or what?	13:46
Type3Singularity	BoltClock: I think mostly its because it needs to be pushed out to mirrors, but there is a chance of some major bug that means it must be pulled	13:46
bobbob1016	We should make the "Ubuntu 9.04 is not out yet, please don't ask when it will be" from the header on the channel be a timed pop-up, so we get less questions later on	13:47
joaopinto	mrintegrity, it depends on the irc server software you use	13:47
Mal3ko	wow Ubuntu 9.04 is out..found the iso	13:47
erUSUL	!ot > mrintegrity	13:47
ubottu	mrintegrity, please see my private message	13:47
Type3Singularity	The last 3 or so releases, the release.ubuntu.org was the final	13:47
Boohbah	mrintegrity: ask in #freenode	13:47
ganimo	where can i find the ISO?	13:47
lianimator	will ubuntu 9.04 support wacom tablet's expresskeys out the box?	13:47
erUSUL	Mal3ko: no it's not out	13:47
unr3a1	hey all	13:47
bromide	bobbob1016 - you'd think that'd work, wouldn't you?	13:47
bobbob1016	bromide, Well, a bit more than the text no one seems to read.	13:47
Mal3ko	erUSUL: ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	13:47
BoltClock	joaopinto: hmm yeah, like some projects like phpBB that keep a release as RC unless they can finally safely promote it to gold?	13:48
Hosein-mec	date of desktop link is for 20-Apr-2009 ! is this final ?	13:48
erUSUL	!itsout	13:48
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about itsout	13:48
joaopinto	BoltClock, right	13:48
BoltClock	Type3Singularity: hmm	13:48
Boohbah	ganimo: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	13:48
md456	hi there, is it possible to run a program as a User xyz from /etc/rc.local script - taks runs as root by default, I need something like a sudo but otherway round (userdo doesnt exist !?)	13:48
Mal3ko	erUSUL: so i am right :)	13:48
joaopinto	Hosein-mec, there is no final release yet, only when announced	13:48
Mohero	while $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done	13:48
Mohero	ahem	13:48
Boohbah	Hosein-mec: only when the release manager makes it official	13:48
erUSUL	!party \| Mal3ko Boohbah	13:48
ubottu	Mal3ko Boohbah: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	13:48
erUSUL	Mal3ko: no you are not	13:48
bromide	bobbob1016 - yeah, I get the funny feeling they wouldn't read it if it's spammed to the channel every now and then either	13:48
sipior	md456: check out the "-u" switch for sudo.	13:49
forces	erUSUL, :O	13:49
Boohbah	erUSUL: i'll join the party in a few hours with my eeepc :)	13:49
forces	ya salio ubuntu 9.04?	13:49
erUSUL	!es \| forces	13:49
ubottu	forces: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	13:49
unr3a1	will 9.04 be available in the update repository?	13:49
forces	pero tu hablas español	13:49
erUSUL	forces: not here	13:50
Trombone	Not now	13:50
forces	:O	13:50
bobbob1016	bromide, Well we'd be able to say "See the pop-up that you've been ignoring?"	13:50
forces	here only english	13:50
forces	erUSUL, is it out jet?	13:50
aprilhare	join #ubuntu+1	13:50
Boohbah	forces: no, ubottu hablas español	13:50
erUSUL	forces: exactly	13:50
md456	sipior - thx	13:50
Mohero	forces: while $NOTRELEASED; do; writechan< "it isn't out yet..."; sleep 5; done	13:50
erUSUL	forces: no it is not out join #ubuntu-release-party	13:50
BoltClock	Mohero: lOL	13:50
forces	* No puede entrar #ubuntu-release-party (Estás baneado).	13:50
forces	u.u	13:50
BoltClock	s/lOL/LOL	13:50
Mohero	BoltClock: thought someone might like that ... :)	13:51
erUSUL	forces: o.0!	13:51
unr3a1	erUSUL: if its not out, how is it on the releases pages?	13:51
Guba	does anybody can tell me when 9.04 can be downloaded	13:51
bromide	bobbob1016 - yeah, good point I guess	13:51
marko_d	OMG this is worse than the que when the ipod went out :)	13:51
erUSUL	unr3a1: ask in #ubuntu-release-party	13:51
Mohero	please... someone with access change the topic.... :'(	13:51
* erUSUL This is a support channel		13:51
unr3a1	also, how can I make the install list of all installed applications?	13:51
Pici	Mohero: Its not out.	13:51
erUSUL	!clone \| unr3a1	13:51
ubottu	unr3a1: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate	13:51
Pici	!isitout	13:52
ubottu	Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	13:52
Mohero	Pici: I know... look up in chan at my comments...	13:52
Boohbah	unr3a1: sudo dpkg -l \|grep ii	13:52
Pici	Mohero: No one reads the topic anyway.	13:52
Mohero	I've not asked if it's out, i'm sensible, I look at the website and will only assume it is out when the site changes to "get it now"	13:52
dassouki	is there a way i can disable bluetooth from running on startup	13:53
Boohbah	unr3a1: sudo dpkg -l \|grep ii \|awk {'print $2'}	13:53
Mr_Kaizer	I'm trying to save a new X Configuration file, but the system won't let me, says I don't have permission. What to do?	13:53
Pici	Mal3ko: Its not out until the release managers announce it. Please don't post links.	13:53
dragoncheese	is there anyway to make the install .iso bootable on a usb flash drive?	13:53
Boohbah	Mr_Kaizer: sudo	13:53
oipat	Any downsides with the 64bit version? (like flash, drivers, etc)	13:54
bobbob1016	dragoncheese, Are you running ubuntu already or no?	13:54
sipior	dassouki: sure. head to /etc/rc2.d/. move the file "S25bluetooth" to "K25bluetooth".	13:54
dragoncheese	yes i'm runnding ubuntu	13:54
Trombone	Ubuntu 9.04 is aviable now !	13:54
erUSUL	oipat: flash works for me tm. the icedtea java ff plugin works on some sites (not in facebook :()	13:54
bazhang	!usb \| dragoncheese	13:54
* sipior bangs is head against his desk.		13:54
ubottu	dragoncheese: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	13:54
bobbob1016	dragoncheese, 8.10? If so, System->Administration->Create USB Startup	13:54
Mr_Kaizer	Boohbah: Err, I'm trying to to it from the NVIDIA control panel :/	13:54
bromide	unetbootin = win	13:54
dassouki	sipior: thanks :D	13:55
sipior	dassouki: yep, no trouble.	13:55
erUSUL	sipior: dassouki it is better to use update-rc.d or bum	13:55
chooish	Hi everyone! Is there any way of using a systemwide equalizer under Ubuntu?	13:55
Trombone	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	13:55
lianimator	does anyone know a video editor that can fast-forward some parts of the video?	13:55
sipior	erUSUL: i don't particularly care for that.	13:55
bobbob1016	bromide, Isn't unetbootin for windows? He's running Ubuntu.	13:55
sipior	erUSUL: matter of taste, i suppose.	13:55
marko_d	lianimator: try kdenlive	13:55
tsimpson	Trombone: don't post links until it's announced	13:56
tsimpson	!jaunty	13:56
ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	13:56
marko_d	it is the k3b of video editors :)	13:56
bromide	bobbob1016 - it's multiplatform I think	13:56
bobbob1016	I can confirm, Jaunty is out	13:56
=== is_it_out_yet is now known as release_mangler
cheleo	jaunty out	13:56
bromide	bobbob1016 - yup, just checked, it's also for Linux	13:56
lianimator	jaunty out?? yay!	13:56
erUSUL	!itisout \| bobbob1016	13:56
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about itisout	13:56
Trombone	tsimpson: It's for make a troll :p	13:56
=== release_mangler is now known as zcat[1]
erUSUL	!iitout \| bobbob1016	13:56
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about iitout	13:56
erUSUL	!isitout \| bobbob1016	13:57
ubottu	bobbob1016: Jaunty is not yet released and there is no predetermined time when it will be. Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party or for more Jaunty/9.04 questions join #ubuntu+1	13:57
bobbob1016	erUSUL, Did you check ubuntu.com?	13:57
alienkid10	!party	13:57
ubottu	Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, and #edubuntu are support channels. To countdown to Jaunty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseParties	13:57
p-f	still not sure why I should care about a new release	13:57
beutlin	it is out	13:57
unr3a1	erUSUL, now, when I do that clone thing, will it cause problems in 9.04? or would it be best to upgrade to 9.04 through the update repository	13:57
erUSUL	bobbob1016: did you check the topic of this channel?	13:57
erUSUL	unr3a1: it is up to you some prefer clean reinstalls and some others (lazy ones XD like me) prefer to upgrade	13:58
okanasik	its out guys have fun www.ubuntu.com	13:58
bobbob1016	erUSUL, Yes, that says it isn't out yet. However it said that before the site updated. No need to get hostile.	13:58
camiloyc	yes, is out... check main page of ubuntu	13:58
pawel_	hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.	13:58
Type3Singularity	I think when its on the main page, its out, no matter what weird rule your are using to decide that	13:59
unr3a1	erUSUL, if I do upgrade, all my installed applications will still work, correct?	13:59
kbingham	i have an upgrade button :) yay	13:59
lianimator	marko_d: I have kdenlive now. which effect is the fast-forward effect?	13:59
erUSUL	unr3a1: nothing is perfect but i upgraded many times and have no major problems	13:59
=== loz is now known as lozlozloz
forces	OUT!!	14:00
p-f	out?	14:00
dt3k	any torrent yet?	14:00
dt3k	yes	14:00
forces	ubuntu 9.04 is avaible for download	14:00
* sipior locks phasers on forces.		14:00
dt3k	www.ubuntu.com	14:00
FloodBot2	dt3k: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	14:00
Tmi	cheers	14:00
p-f	and?	14:00
pawel_	yuhuu!!!	14:00
unr3a1	erUSUL, sweet. will I have to do something special to my repositories to get 9.04 to populate in the update manager, or will it just populate by default?	14:00
alex2	not yet ?	14:00
BoltClock	i would say what i was about to say but im not keen on being banned for backseat modding so ill be quiet and just head over to the other chan...	14:01
erUSUL	unr3a1: shold appear a button on the update manager	14:01
pawel_	is it available in all languages instantly?	14:01
defrysk	someone better adjust the topic , its out	14:01
Linux_Time	"It is out."	14:01
unr3a1	erUSUL, sweet. thanks...	14:01
Linux_Time	hm	14:01
bobbob1016	bromide, We do need a pop-up, saying "Check ubuntu.com first, we have already"	14:01
forces	use torrent	14:02
prateek	Changing the topic, sending the email to ubuntu-announce, changing the homepage, ... I wish all this happened simultaneously in a consistent way when the new release is made.	14:02
forces	cause im using mirror and go slowly	14:02
forces	¬.¬	14:02
unr3a1	erUSUL, I see the button in update manager	14:02
bromide	bobbob1016 - you'd sorta hope people would check there first	14:02
alex2	ITS OUT	14:03
BoltClock	is this channel now open to jaunty support?	14:03
BoltClock	or do i still need to go to +1?	14:03
sipior	BoltClock: i think you're fine :-)	14:03
molven	\o/	14:03
* pawel_ is updating Ubuntu		14:03
Insti	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	14:03
linny	anyone got a 9.04 1386 desktop torrent	14:03
Kisama	I have a cron that is set to: MAILTO=me@me 0 0 * * * apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade	14:03
Kisama	however, I got an error in the log it emailed me	14:04
BoltClock	sipior: alright. in that case, is it fine to shrink my existing ubuntu partition to make space for a jaunty install on my hard disk instead of upgrading right away?	14:04
vixey	why does ubuntu.com make it soo hard to find the torrent? http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt	14:04
vixey	it's not even on there	14:04
Kisama	can someone help me?	14:04
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vixey	I think 9.04 is out btw	14:04
Insti	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	14:04
pepperjack	vixey: because torrents are evil :). maybe they like to track number of downloads	14:04
sipior	BoltClock: if you want, i suppose. if you're concerned about testing, grab a live cd and verify that everything works, then upgrade.	14:04
darren_	ok question if i upgrade to ubuntu jaunty will it still use the same drivers i installed for mi wifi adapter?	14:05
vixey	I prefer torrents because they resume easily	14:05
raddy	Hello Everybody	14:05
BoltClock	sipior: i dont think testing with just a live cd is enough anymore. intrepid's live cd was totally ok, but when i upgraded my existing install it borked	14:05
BoltClock	x.x	14:05
rumpel	is it out?	14:05
BoltClock	yep	14:05
raddy	For installing without burning the cd, should i choose alternative installl?	14:05
pepperjack	raddy: that is still an iso you burn to cd it just isnt the livecd	14:06
pepperjack	raddy: you wanting to put it on a usb or somethine?	14:06
fladd	why is the official version dated 20.04? so the actual final version has been there for already 3 days now on the servers?	14:06
tuxFan	whats the jaunty channel?	14:06
lizzzzard	tuxFan: #ubuntu+1	14:06
bazhang	#ubuntu tuxFan	14:06
=== flo is now known as pepper
BoltClock	tuxFan: right here	14:07
abrandt	when I create a desktop launcher what is the switch it adds to run it in a terminal..	14:07
sipior	BoltClock: in that case, how would installing to another partition allow you to test the upgrade any more than testing from a live cd?	14:07
shauno	fladd: if nothing broke in the last couple of days, doesn't make any sense to rebuild it again. not breaking things right up until the last minute is probably a good sign	14:07
pawel_	hot to minimize or change workspace when playing fullscreen game? ctrl+alt+arrows does not work.	14:07
BoltClock	sipior: oh yeah.... :X	14:07
fladd	okay	14:07
vixey	I think it's the jaunty channel here now isnt it?	14:07
alex2	it is	14:07
abrandt	hrrm	14:08
pawel_	what's the difference between Jaunty and Intrepid?	14:08
scunizi	pawel_: depends on the game.. you'll need to check with the game folks typicallly	14:08
Mohero	6 months of development	14:08
Mohero	the name	14:08
sipior	pawel_: spelling?	14:08
DASPRiD	pawel_, jaunty is younger	14:08
Mohero	looking for specifics?	14:08
DASPRiD	sipior, lol :P	14:08
abrandt	when I create a desktop launcher, It gives an option to run in terminal. What is the option it adds to run a program in a terminal	14:09
alex2	Congratz Jaunty have very nice default theme	14:09
BoltClock	sipior: if i end up upgrading, i can only either clean install or upgrade to intrepid first right?	14:09
scunizi	abrandt: maybe "nautilus"	14:09
abrandt	ok	14:09
sipior	BoltClock: you're running 8.04 now?	14:09
=== adam7_ is now known as adam7
vixey	Faster boot speed, enhanced application suite and more visual appeal -- give users more reasons than ever to choose Ubuntu	14:09
BoltClock	sipior: yes	14:09
=== itsOUT is now known as is910outyet
DASPRiD	BoltClock, should be able to upgrade directly to 8.10	14:09
DASPRiD	*9.04	14:09
waan	Hmm my mirror doesn't appear on the website anymore	14:10
BoltClock	DASPRiD: with system>admin>update manager?	14:10
sipior	BoltClock: you can see what options the update manager gives you.	14:10
dragoncheese	if you do a dist-upgrade from the 9.04 RC you get the release right?	14:10
DASPRiD	BoltClock, yes	14:10
BoltClock	sipior, DASPRiD: great, ill check it out once im done with this iso download	14:10
DASPRiD	dragoncheese, no, you simply have it :)	14:10
Mohero	vixey: actually MUCH MUCH faster boot - my jaw dropped!	14:10
emptythevoid	BoltClock: you also need to make sure your software sources are set to show you 'Normal' updates, and not LTD only	14:10
darren_	hi could some one please help i have 8.10 how do i upgrade to jaunty thanks in advance	14:11
alex2	very representative and nice look !!	14:11
erUSUL	!upgrade > darren_	14:11
ubottu	darren_, please see my private message	14:11
DASPRiD	DarkClown, update-manager -d	14:11
BoltClock	emptythevoid: yes, i have that already set	14:11
vixey	great!	14:11
vixey	I hated that about ubuntu it was slow to boott	14:11
vixey	I just hope 9.04 does boot	14:11
SandGorgon	anybody upgraded from 8.04 ?	14:12
Rapachooie	THERE IT IS	14:12
Rapachooie	yay	14:12
pawel_	god 1554 files!	14:12
Rapachooie	9.04 is UP	14:12
pawel_	*God	14:12
Rapachooie	woot woot	14:12
JerkyBoys	anyone have torrents for the download?	14:12
techman224	Yes, there are torrents	14:12
kulight	ubuntu.com is so slow now...	14:12
bigboy	yeah 9.04 is up	14:12
Type3Singularity	Anyone know of any custom isos that roll Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and server into the one DVD?	14:13
techman224	But there are not published	14:13
ikonia	Please wait for the announcment	14:13
defrysk	the insternet tubes are clogged.....	14:13
* scunizi will be watching the server performance drop as everyone tries to suck the upgrade files as fast as they can		14:13
Type3Singularity	ikonia: You mean: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-April/000122.html	14:13
stefano-palazzo	Would anyone know a shell command that quits whenever any key is pressed?	14:13
dt3k	use torrent faster anyway	14:13
JerkyBoys	http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent	14:13
jdownie	got one for kubuntu?	14:14
techman224	JerkyBoys, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/	14:14
pawel_	ubuntu.com is not loading xD	14:14
techman224	All the torrent files are there.	14:14
emptythevoid	Has a PowerPC release of 9.04 been made that works on the PS3?	14:14
dt3k	http://kubuntu.org/news/9.04-release	14:14
sipior	stefano-palazzo: what exactly are you trying to do?	14:14
ikonia	emptythevoid: PPC is community based so expect it to lag	14:14
emptythevoid	ikonia: Thanks. :)	14:14
vixey	JerkyBoys http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/	14:15
MrKeishii	its OUT	14:15
MrKeishii	Finally Out	14:15
vixey	the torrents are in there	14:15
SandGorgon	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	14:15
MrKeishii	yeah	14:15
jdownie	thanks	14:15
MrKeishii	i know	14:15
vixey	I wonder why ubuntu.com makes it so hard to find them!	14:15
stefano-palazzo	sipior, i'm writing a script to use in the car, so i want it to do whatever it does (which is gather some data) whenever i bash randomly on the keyboard	14:15
MrKeishii	yaaaay	14:15
MrKeishii	its finally out thanks ubuntu	14:15
ikonia	vixey: please stop poasting that URL - it's not out yet	14:15
techman224	And there's a new version of ubuntu, UNR!	14:15
MrKeishii	yea it it	14:15
MrKeishii	is	14:15
stefano-palazzo	sipior, because you know, trying to hit some key at speed might be uncomfortable :>	14:15
vixey	ikonia what	14:16
jdownie	no torrent for netbooks?	14:16
ikonia	vixey: never mind, I'm wrong	14:16
Trombone	UBUNUTU 9.04 IS AVAILABLE NOW !!!	14:16
camiloyc	techman224, with date of today?	14:16
waan	Can somebody tell me how to run and attack multiple screen sessions?	14:16
waan	attach	14:16
erUSUL	Trombone: we now. Read the topic	14:16
defrysk	ikonia, even jono bacon announced it on twitter that its out!!	14:16
ikonia	waan: screen -S	14:16
sipior	stefano-palazzo: i see the difficulty :-) you can just put a "read" in the script, blocking the script until a character is pressed. you can throw away the read character, since you don't care what it is.	14:17
=== cexpert1 is now known as TBotNik
pepperjack	jdownie: i imagine 'ubuntu netbook remix' would turn up a torrent or two	14:17
defrysk	ah ikonia announced he is wrong :>	14:17
waan	ikonia: thanks, and I name the sessions with -t right?	14:17
Sinchan	hey all	14:17
techman224	Now that Ubuntu 9.04 is out, it should be on the mirrors within the next 24 hours.	14:17
stefano-palazzo	sipior, thanks.. so obvious now :-)	14:17
lightpriest_	hi	14:17
ikonia	waan: -S will name them	14:17
forces	what happen with www.ubuntu.com	14:18
forces	too busy?	14:18
waan	Ok thanks i'll give it a shot	14:18
techman224	forces, no problems here	14:18
xC	works fine	14:18
Sinchan	i cant access ubuntu.com	14:18
RyanVanDiemen	hi guys, where can I find torrent for 9.04 (apart from ubuntu.com) ?	14:18
forces	hmm	14:18
Sinchan	jaunty is already out now ?	14:19
xC	ryanvandiemen: http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/	14:19
forces	here cant load ubuntu.com	14:19
techman224	Every release seams more interesting for the regular user on Mac and Windows.	14:19
RyanVanDiemen	thanks xC	14:19
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danbhfive	!upgrade	14:21
ubottu	For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	14:21
djiezes	I'm about to install the new 9.04. Should I go for ext4 or are there stability issues?	14:21
glauber	anyone here familiar with distcc?	14:21
ikonia	djiezes: try it - make up your own mind	14:21
danbhfive	!notes \| djiezes	14:21
ikonia	glauber: yes	14:21
ubottu	djiezes: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes	14:21
Spikius	!jaunty	14:22
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ubottu	Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 23rd, 2009 - Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - JAUNTY IS NOT YET RELEASED - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support - Await the release in #ubuntu-release-party	14:22
bromide	doh, I just updated via apt and half way through Ubuntu decides to give me a dialog telling me I'm due an update	14:22
rumpel	@ djiezes ext4 is fast but less secure.... whats more important? performance or stability?	14:22
Tmi	When I start a letter to a brittish woman, should I start with "Dear Ms. Name" ?	14:22
techman224	There were stability issues in the beta.	14:22
bromide	yeah, that works Tmi	14:22
ikonia	Tmi: that's offtopic in here	14:22
glauber	ikonia: apt-get'ing it only gives me host i486, and my machine is 586	14:22
darren_	hi if i upgrade to the new ubuntu will it keep my prefs and skins and also will my old wireless drivers i installed still be the same thanks	14:22
Tmi	oh, was supposed to write in another channel, well, guess i got my answer anyway :D	14:22
djiezes	rumpel: stabillity, it's for my daily desktop. I'll opt for ext3 then? I see the release notes say it can cause trouble with grub.	14:23
ikonia	glauber: I wouldn't worry about that, compilers are rarley arch optimised	14:23
craryfans	hello	14:23
mouse-trap	why doesn't the ubuntu torrents go up before the mirrors! so irritating	14:23
craryfans	i'm newer	14:23
erUSUL	darren_: the driver will have to be reinstalled (unless the new ubuntu works out of the box now)	14:23
bigbwoy	hey anybody with a link to download 9.04 ubuntu.com is very slow?	14:23
bromide	9.04 > 8.10 for wireless on my eee	14:23
rumpel	@ djiezes choose ext3...	14:23
djiezes	thx for the help ikonia, danbhfive, rumpel	14:24
darren_	erUSUL, ok thanks the driver was writen for ubuntu 8.10 as a guess do you think it will still work if i reinstall it	14:24
glauber	ikonia: the problem is im cross-compiling from amd64 and should i have a toolchain on the host/helper machine for 486 arch so?	14:24
zaagor	!list	14:24
ubottu	This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »	14:24
ikonia	glauber: you're tool chain will be what ever arch you build it for	14:24
iulianpojar1	ubuntu 9.04 right now on www.ubuntu.com	14:25
erUSUL	darren_: dunno... as i said with luck you do not need to use them and now your wifi chip is supported aout of the box	14:25
copland-leopard	Is ubuntu really windows because I sure do have to restart it a whole heck of alot.	14:25
Insti	how dangerous is skipping a version when upgrading?	14:25
nassrat	Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu	14:25
craryfans	hello	14:25
unr3a1	erUSUL, I saw that you said you wait two weeks to upgrade to the newest version... will the upgrade button stay that long in the update manager?	14:25
mouse-trap	ubunt is not microsoft windows	14:25
arvind_khadri	Insti, you cant do that :D	14:25
darren_	erUSUL, ok thanks will have to look into it as a use it for packt injection thanks for your time	14:25
Dragnslcr	copland-leopard- only time you should need to reboot is for kernel updates	14:25
erUSUL	darren_: no problem	14:25
palmje	Insti: you have to upgrade one version at a time	14:25
nassrat	Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu	14:25
glauber	ikonia: should i rename /usr/lib/distcc/i486-linux-gnu-g++-4.3 for it to be recognized as 586 arch on the helper machine ?	14:26
docmax_	hello, i have a problem with fonts	14:26
copland-leopard	Dragnslcr: Unfornatly I have the problem of X hardlocking the system up	14:26
craryfans	我的	14:26
erUSUL	unr3a1: yes; also i use the alternate cd for upgrading	14:26
ikonia	glauber: no	14:26
docmax_	they look strange when smoothing is disabled	14:26
ikonia	glauber: that will cause massive problems	14:26
docmax_	where can i upload the example pic?	14:26
Dragnslcr	copland-leopard- ah, yeah, that'll do it. My first guess would be the video drivers. Linux tends to not get a lot of love from the video card manufacturers	14:27
glauber	ikonia: i dont get how will the helper know about the right toolchain/compiler for the target	14:27
bobbob1016	Do firefox add-ons live in / or /home or /usr? I'm doing a fresh install of Jaunty, with the same /home, I have a bunch of things left in down-them-all, not sure if they'd survive, just wanted to know if anyone knows.	14:27
unr3a1	erUSUL, oh... the alternate cd has an upgrade option in the install menu?	14:27
melkart	the translations are broken, here is an example: http://i39.tinypic.com/aa9fmw.png	14:27
mindnull	is ubuntu.com down?	14:27
copland-leopard	Dragnslcr: I am not new to linux but I thought I give ubuntu a whirl and so far no where as stable as slackware	14:27
Dragnslcr	mindnull- nope, just slow	14:27
docmax_	http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png	14:27
whattey	http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/	14:27
docmax_	look at this	14:27
docmax_	looks rally ugly	14:28
scunizi	bobbob1016: they are in ~/.mozilla	14:28
docmax_	how can i correct the fonts?	14:28
bobbob1016	copland-leopard, Are you restarting everytime it says "you should restart" it's a suggestion, not mandatory, at all.	14:28
racecar56	yay 9.04	14:28
racecar56	its here	14:28
racecar56	:>	14:28
ezekial	anyone know what time 9.04 is being released?	14:28
bromide	now	14:28
bromide	it's out	14:28
racecar56	now	14:28
Mohero	it is...	14:28
racecar56	its out now	14:28
ezekial	=dDDDDD	14:28
pc	!jaunty	14:28
ubottu	Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents	14:28
unr3a1	its out	14:28
racecar56	=DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd	14:28
erUSUL	unr3a1: it has a command in the cd to do the upgrade using the cd as repo so you save dl time (i dl the cd via torrent)	14:28
copland-leopard	bobbob1016: no I restart when I can nolonger drop down into a new tty	14:28
euthyfro	#omfg	14:28
Mohero	JOKE anyone know when I can get 9.10 Alpha 1? :P	14:29
racecar56	how do i upgrade from rc? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?	14:29
Sinchan	accessing ubuntu.com is like hell :)	14:29
unr3a1	erUSUL, I will have to figure out how to do that then... :-D	14:29
Dragnslcr	racecar56- just a normal update	14:29
Lint01	how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?	14:29
Mohero	Sinchan: so don't do it	14:29
Mohero	browse a mirror.	14:29
bobbob1016	scunizi, Thanks, although for those who don't know, saying ~/ instead of /home/(your-username)/ might be a bit confusing.	14:29
* misplacedme waves and whatnot		14:29
docmax_	http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7157/screenshot001f.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them?	14:29
bromide	I just did aptitude full-upgrade	14:29
djiezes	hm ubottu gives release notes for 8.10? needs a fix.	14:29
Pici	Mohero: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule	14:29
Sinchan	i am not.	14:29
kalib	the site isn't working very well.. everybody is downloading the new release...	14:29
erUSUL	racecar56: use the update-manager	14:29
kalib	what's the link??	14:29
Mohero	Pici: HAHAHA	14:29
scunizi	Mohero: #ubuntu+1 for 9.10 :-))	14:29
racecar56	erUSUL, k	14:29
night_time	hi, I'm trying to backup my home folder with tar with the help of this famous tutorial: http://bitly.com/qty6o but at some point I get this message and the tar process stops: "gzip: stdout: File too large"	14:30
Sinchan	maybe tomorrow i'll try again	14:30
Gullstad	Is #ubuntu+1 redirected here now?	14:30
Mohero	there was a reason for my JOKE :P	14:30
mouse-trap	use the bittorrent	14:30
Mohero	just seams everyone was asking the same thing, thought i'd be different :)	14:30
resno	Can anyone recommend a book or online site to learn terminal commands?	14:30
mouse-trap	I swear - the torrent should come out a week before the mirrors	14:30
Mohero	resno: "man"	14:30
Mohero	;)	14:30
hbekel	copland-leopard: slackware is a vanilla distribution. ubuntu is heavily branded/modified	14:30
bazhang	!rute > resno	14:30
ubottu	resno, please see my private message	14:30
unr3a1	erUSUL, I am downloading the alternate cd now... :)	14:30
mrwes	resno: sudo apt-get install abs -- bash scripting book	14:30
erUSUL	unr3a1: ok	14:31
pan1nx	ciao...fug...	14:31
scunizi	Gullstad: if 9.04 is officially out .. then yes.. and ubuntu+1 would then be the help channel for 9.10	14:31
unr3a1	erUSUL, its downloading faster than the regular iso too.... :-D	14:31
Lint01	how can I setup the route between my wired and wireless network?	14:31
erUSUL	unr3a1: cheers	14:31
docmax_	http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6149/screenshot002bly.png << look at the fonts! how can i correct them to look "normal" ??	14:32
dronix	ubuntu 9.04 stable is out	14:32
bobbob1016	Lint01, What do you mean? Are they two different routers? What do you want to do with the link?	14:32
praveer_cool	hey I observed that http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading page says Upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 in the title, but the content is correctly set for 9.04, it is a minor typo but is noticeable	14:32
bobbob1016	dronix, Thanks, but we know	14:32
dronix	oh lol sorry, just noticed	14:32
deeflex	dronix, the stable?	14:32
praveer_cool	thought of letting you know	14:32
dronix	yes deeflex	14:32
deeflex	Ok	14:33
mrwes	resno: http://fosswire.com/post/2008/4/ubuntu-cheat-sheet/	14:33
Lint01	i want to setup multihomed machine with 1 wired and 1 wireless adapter. A wired one uses DHCP, wireless does not.	14:33
docmax_	hello?	14:33
martinkoelewijn	Hi all. A process mount.ntfs is filling up my cpu (I'm dl-ing Jaunty to a ntfs partition). What is wrong?	14:33
alienkid10	does dontzap --disable enable ctrl+alt+bksp permanently?	14:33
resno	thats quite a bit of resources!	14:33
mrwes	alienkid10: yes	14:33
Ddorda	how do i make .deb archives?	14:33
Ddorda	there's any guide?	14:33
Gullstad	scunizi: Just saw. Didn't know it was out yet :P	14:33
praveer_cool	I hope i commented in the right channel :)	14:34
mrwes	alienkid10: unless you do an --enable	14:34
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* iqson716 is away: I'm not here right now!		14:34
alienkid10	ok	14:34
JiYu	I trie to build a deb package with dpkg-buildpackage, but dpkg-shlibdeps is telling that it cannot find "libdb2.so.2", but it exist. can I disable dpkg-shlibdeps somehow? :)	14:34
alienkid10	becuase I sometimes need to kill X	14:34
Gullstad	Is the compiz-x.org problem with intelchips fixed?	14:34
Asad	ubuntu site is terribly slow ... and so are upgrades .....	14:34
racecar56	i need to kill X too	14:34
dronix	mrwes, oh thats handy	14:34
mrwes	alienkid10: it adds a line to your xorg.conf	14:34
Asad	can I download the .iso to upgrade to 9.04 from 8.10 ?	14:34
alienkid10	ok thanks	14:34
praveer_cool	Asad: this happens everytime with a new release, chill out :P	14:34
racecar56	Asad, no	14:35
mrwes	I smell blood in the water...	14:35
Mohero	alienkid10: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart ;-)	14:35
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racecar56	Asad, update-manager	14:35
Asad	yea .. that's what I am talking about ... update-manager is terribly slow	14:35
Asad	20 KB / sec .. come on, it will take me hours	14:35
Asad	anyone has used apt-p2p instead?	14:35
pepperjack	JiYu: maybe export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib	14:35
Sinchan	be patient Asad...	14:35
Sinchan	:)	14:35
scunizi	Asad: download the torrent of the alternate install.. I understand you can upgrade with that	14:35
DASPRiD	Asad, you should have done the upgrade 4 days ago, that time i got 3mb/s	14:36
Ddorda	i heard it not so stable	14:36
mrwes	Ddorda: its stable	14:36
JPSman	!jaunty	14:36
ubottu	Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents	14:36
rapha	DASPRiD: ja wen seh' ich denn hier? :-)	14:36
DASPRiD	rapha, onoz :x	14:36
Cyde	Do we have any stats on popularity of the 64-bit version versus the 32-bit version?	14:36
rapha	rofl	14:36
Type3Singularity	Hmm there are no torrents for the netbook remix	14:36
rapha	DASPRiD: are we not on friendly terms anymore? :D	14:36
Mohero	Cyde: you mean other than the Ubuntu shop not even listing x64!!!	14:36
DASPRiD	rapha, i dont know, i remember your name, thats it :)	14:37
Mohero	I WANT 64BIT DAMNIT	14:37
bobbob1016	Asad, Try the torrent for the alternate, you can upgrade with that.	14:37
BonezAU	I run amd64 on both my dual core toshiba laptop and my amd dual core 64/6000 cpu	14:37
Cyde	Well, you can download the 64 bit one.	14:37
Mohero	I would never install 32-bit on my 64-bit hardware	14:37
Cyde	Mohero: Ditto	14:37
BonezAU	only reason im downloading i386 is my parents pc is an Intel P4	14:37
rapha	DASPRiD: c'mon, all the map testing and hanging around on SatGNU ... you disappoint me	14:37
Mohero	haven't in years	14:37
Asad	ohh ok thanks scunizi and bobbob1016	14:37
BonezAU	and i wanna dual boot it on that	14:37
nassrat	Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu	14:37
Cyde	Any computer that was bought new in the past 2 years should use the 64-bit version.	14:37
DASPRiD	rapha, oh, right	14:37
rapha	DASPRiD ;)	14:37
comair	hello all. I am trying to install a sharp mx2600 n printer on my ubuntu system. I downloaded the correct driver and added the printer to ubuntu. When i try to print the printer warms up but prints no page. Can anyone help?	14:37
BonezAU	it's disappointing the amount of people who will download the 32 bit version when they have 64 bit CPU's	14:37
BonezAU	the 64 bit version rocks	14:37
BonezAU	been using it since alpha 4	14:38
rapha	DASPRiD: btw, TremStats finally broke	14:38
LjL	!ot	14:38
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	14:38
DASPRiD	rapha, orly?	14:38
bromide	you know, I'd hope that if you're using Linux you at least know what's inside your computer	14:38
w00kee	how to know if my processor is 64 bit	14:38
Cyde	BonezAU: Maybe there should be a warning message during installation: "We detect you have a 64-bit processor, but are installing the 32-bit version of Ubuntu."	14:38
bromide	but I guess that's not as true as I'd like to believe	14:38
mindnull	BonezAU, do they have a 64 bit java plugin yet?	14:38
meebo	!info XMMS	14:38
ubottu	Package XMMS does not exist in jaunty	14:38
BonezAU	Cyde: that is a great idea!	14:38
Cyde	w00kee: What's your processor?	14:38
rapha	DASPRiD: yeah, didn't do any bughunting though ... I'll just upgrade from your SVN and try again	14:38
meebo	!info xmmc	14:38
darthanubis	mindnull, yes	14:38
ubottu	Package xmmc does not exist in jaunty	14:38
pepperjack	BonezAU: i dont often need more than 4 gigs of ram for a single process..	14:38
meebo	!info hardy xmmc	14:38
ubottu	'xmmc' is not a valid distribution ['dapper', 'gutsy', 'gutsy-backports', 'hardy', 'hardy-backports', 'intrepid', 'intrepid-backports', 'jaunty', 'jaunty-backports', 'kde4-ppa', 'kde4-ppa-intrepid', 'kubuntu-experimental', 'kubuntu-members-kde4', 'medibuntu', 'partner']	14:38
w00kee	pentium D	14:39
scunizi	!info XMMS2	14:39
Rolie	Cyde, my torrents ran the 8.10 downloads the past few months with a ratio of 1:2 in favor of 32 bits.	14:39
ubottu	Package XMMS2 does not exist in jaunty	14:39
w00kee	dual core	14:39
LjL	This channel is for Ubuntu support, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for general Ubuntu-related discussion, or party in #ubuntu-release-party	14:39
JiYu	pepperjack, unfortunately not	14:39
KoolD	hey whats special in 64bits version than 32bits???	14:39
BonezAU	pepperjack: neither do I... but I don't see the point in running 32 bit version on 64 bit hardware. there is now native 64 bit flash and sun java... what else could one need	14:39
Cyde	Rolie: Thanks. That's some good data.	14:39
cllaudyu	hi... i need a little help for my webcam	14:39
JPSman	what would you sugest for us 7.10ers? 8.10 to 9.04? or just a fresh install?	14:39
meebo	scunizi lol maybe there is XMMC3	14:39
Cyde	JPSman: Fresh install	14:39
BonezAU	JPSman: fresh install	14:39
joaopinto	JPSman, fresh install	14:39
JPSman	damn	14:40
ecceberlin	!torrents	14:40
BonezAU	lol	14:40
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	14:40
mrwes	JPSman: you have a separate /home ?	14:40
JPSman	:OD	14:40
JPSman	uh, no	14:40
Lint01	why ubuntu has no upgrade mode?	14:40
Cyde	Back up your data first then.	14:40
mrwes	JPSman: then if you do fresh, make sure you back it up	14:40
Pici	!upgrade \| Lint01	14:40
ubottu	Lint01: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	14:40
Cyde	Lint01: Ubuntu does, just 7.10 is rather old.	14:40
FreshPrince	is today the release if intrepid?	14:40
cllaudyu	hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work...	14:40
lightpriest_	Lint01, it does have	14:40
Pici	FreshPrince: Jaunty. Intrepid+1	14:40
FreshPrince	!release	14:40
cllaudyu	hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ...	14:40
ubottu	Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases	14:40
lightpriest_	Lint01, you have to enable it	14:40
copland-leopard	so far I am not getting far at all..... at this point i might as well fire up vmware and load xp at least that does not hard lock on me	14:40
JPSman	damn damn damn. Ok, well, I'm off to backup EVERYTHING :OD	14:40
FreshPrince	Pici, ok	14:40
Lint01	lightpriest_, how?	14:40
meebo	Lint01 sudo apt-get apgrade	14:40
rapha	i wanna set up ubuntu 4.10 somewhere again	14:40
lightpriest_	!upgrade \| Lint01	14:40
ubottu	Lint01: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	14:41
Klau3	Happy Ubuntu 9.04 Day!!!!!!!!!!!!!	14:41
meebo	Lint01 sudo apt-get upgrade	14:41
cllaudyu	hi... i need a little help for my webcam... i can't make it to work... ... can someone help? it is important 4 me...	14:41
Shadow121	where is the off topic channel?	14:41
bjsnider	not if you're using intel graphics	14:41
Konam	where is the 9.04 official torrent?	14:41
Pici	Shadow121: #ubuntu+1	14:41
shadeslayer	!ot	14:41
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	14:41
Pici	Shadow121: ER,.. I mean #ubuntu-offtopic	14:41
SandGorgon	anybody have link to kubuntu desktop torrent ?	14:41
erUSUL	!ot \| Konam	14:41
pepperjack	!webcam \| cllaudyu may be of some help	14:41
ubottu	Konam: please see above	14:41
ubottu	cllaudyu may be of some help: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	14:41
* Sinchan starting upgrade... my local repo is allready updated		14:41
Sinchan	:)	14:41
epscylonb	did anyone else update firefox today and have it delete all their add ons ?	14:41
Shadow121	Thanks Pici	14:41
w00kee	cyde: its a pentium D, can i go for a download of 64 bit??	14:41
kulight	!9.04	14:42
ubottu	Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents	14:42
lightpriest_	this ubottu bot is pretty smart :P	14:42
Cyde	w00kee: No, I don't think the Pentium D is 64-bit.	14:42
g_	hey is it a good idea to upgrade to 9.04?	14:42
Cyde	w00kee: Wait, I'm wrong.	14:42
Cyde	w00kee: It is	14:42
cllaudyu	i think i need a little more help than a web page... hmmmm	14:42
w00kee	cyde: how do i find out my pc's specs	14:42
shadeslayer	g_: pretty good	14:42
olujicz	I have intel celeron D and it is 64-bit	14:42
Cyde	w00kee: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Pentium_D	14:42
joaopinto	pendium d does already support 64 bits	14:42
mrwes	g_: I ran the upgrade for the first time and I didn't have any issues	14:42
meebo	w00kee is it a dualcore?	14:42
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Cyde	w00kee: less /proc/cpuinfo	14:42
Mohero	most PC's sold are 64bit, so why are most os's sold /downloaded 32bit	14:43
lightpriest_	g_, I'm using it now on my pc and my laptop, it works great	14:43
Mohero	seems pointless to me	14:43
copland-leopard	Does anyone else have serious issues with ubuntu and ATI drivers. I know ati drivers are buggy but they seem extra buggy on Ubuntu?	14:43
jhouse	ubottu said the current release is 9.04, but apt-get upgrade does not work. Am I missing something?	14:43
kulight	!torrent	14:43
ubottu	Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	14:43
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	14:43
Type3Singularity	I vote the next Ubuntu release's name be changed to "It's not out yet", just to confuse the issue	14:43
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Daskreech	!torrents	14:43
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	14:43
orgthingy	Mohero: 64-apps aint THAT popular yet i guess	14:43
Cyde	jhouse: You need to launch the Update Manager.	14:43
Mohero	orgthingy: so...	14:43
Lint01	copland-leopard, ati drivers are unusable now	14:43
Cyde	jhouse: (The GUI one)	14:43
resno	the upgrade is going to take 2hrs 48 mins to download 831 mb!	14:43
Cyde	jhouse: That'll tell you a new release is available.	14:43
shadeslayer	jhouse: apt-get dist-upgrade maybe	14:43
meebo	ppl use /msg ubottu !torrents	14:43
Mohero	orgthingy: you can run 32bit apps on 64bit systems	14:43
Mohero	we do all the time.	14:43
orgthingy	Mohero: or probably are pre-compiled binary better than compiling for 64bit	14:43
bjsnider	guhh. there's too much chatter in here	14:43
orgthingy	Mohero: that'd be stupid :p	14:43
pawel__	register swap osd2@op.pl	14:43
pawel__	oh!	14:44
orgthingy	Mohero: I run 64-bit Ubuntu 9.04 with 64-bit apps	14:44
jhouse	Cyde, shadeslayer: "your system is up-to-date"	14:44
lightpriest_	Mohero, if you don't have more then 4GiB of ram 64bit is quite pointless	14:44
orgthingy	but, Mohero , it isn't really "stupid" to run 32-bit	14:44
Mohero	orgthingy: no, we write both 64bit and 32bit software, we build them all on 64bit systems	14:44
AvianInfluenza	hiya	14:44
Cyde	jhouse: Run it again?	14:44
grawity	pawel__: Is your password really "swap"? :)	14:44
Mohero	lightpriest_: disagree	14:44
meebo	jhouse what are ya using now?	14:44
orgthingy	Mohero: 64-bit got cons as well, that 32-bit doesn't have	14:44
pawel__	grawity: yep.	14:44
orgthingy	so, Mohero, it's users choice never yours xD	14:44
jhouse	Cyde, meebo: using 8.10 and just ran it	14:44
resno	wow, this place is crazy about the new upgrade	14:44
datacrusher	jaunty is oficcialy released?	14:44
Lint01	why I have got no upgrades after release?	14:44
SixtyFold	How do you check users in the terminal on ubuntu since theres no passwd file in /etc/?	14:44
orgthingy	Mohero: it's about compiling FOSS for your 64-bit machine	14:44
Lint01	datacrusher, see MOTD	14:45
bobbob1016	datacrusher, Please, check ubuntu.com before asking here	14:45
pawel__	how to change NickServ password?	14:45
Cyde	Argh, MIT, your slow mirror is making me late to work!	14:45
orgthingy	Mohero: it's about some proprietary software don't have 64-bit binary	14:45
w00kee	Cyde: how do i get to know the version of my ubuntu distro	14:45
grawity	SixtyFold: There should be an /etc/passwd :/	14:45
lightpriest_	Mohero, gimme one good reason to use 64bit.. except that memory issue...	14:45
copland-leopard	Lint01: I experience nothing but pain in with ATI and Ubuntu and I hate to say it it only been ubuntu that I had so much pain with All my ati boxes run different versions of linux with out issue ubuntu likes to go kablooey	14:45
SixtyFold	hrmm	14:45
mib_wfnhs3	I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?	14:45
Mohero	and all of which will run on your 64bit OS...	14:45
Cyde	w00kee: lsb_release -a	14:45
SixtyFold	ill check again but i didnt see it	14:45
BoltClock	!md5	14:45
ubottu	To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	14:45
orgthingy	Mohero: no	14:45
* meebo is on GeBuntu :)		14:45
grawity	pawel__: /msg nickserv set password	14:45
Mohero	that's why we have apt-get install ia32	14:45
orgthingy	i have 64-bit, Mohero , i can't run 32-bit DEBs	14:45
BoltClock	where do i find the list of md5sums for jaunty?	14:45
SixtyFold	NM	14:45
SixtyFold	its there	14:45
jhouse	apt-get update; apt-get upgrade worked	14:45
SixtyFold	thanks, im just retarded and tired	14:45
SixtyFold	:D	14:45
Mohero	orgthingy: then you're doing it wrong :)	14:45
FloodBot2	SixtyFold: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	14:45
LjL	BoltClock: in the last link in the topic	14:45
SixtyFold	im not flooding either, i talk that fast :P	14:46
orgthingy	Mohero: im not talking about "All-arch" DEBs	14:46
SixtyFold	bbl :D	14:46
Mohero	all-arch is different from 32bit / 64bit :)	14:46
orgthingy	Mohero: and excuse me? I've used debian since 1998 (now ubuntu for repo issues and such) so don't tell me im wrong about DEBs	14:46
orgthingy	Mohero: i know	14:46
Mohero	I would expeck no-arch to run on my PPC	14:46
pawel__	how to recover lost password on IRC? I lost password for pawel.	14:46
mib_wfnhs3	I'm upgrading to 9.04, and it has hanged on "Fetching file 1146 of 1146"... any ideas?	14:46
grawity	pawel__: Ask in #freenode	14:46
w00kee	Cyde: So then shud i go for a download, and not an upgrade to get the 64 bit.	14:46
Pici	pawel__: Join #freenode and ask	14:46
meebo	can smb change the topic! so ppl will not ask 100000 times how to upgrade and that you need to have 8.10	14:46
Mohero	I run google earth packaged as DEB it's 32bit, on my 64bit Ubuntu	14:47
pawel__	ok.	14:47
SixtyFold	pawel, you should just be able to get nickserv to send it to your email address	14:47
Mohero	so, it can be done if you know how to do it :)	14:47
cllaudyu	i can't find nothing for my ARMEDIA K13A webcam	14:47
orgthingy	Mohero: you need 32-bit LibC and such	14:47
Cyde	w00kee: If you're currently running the 32-bit version, I believe you have to install the 64-bit version fresh.	14:47
orgthingy	otherwise you'd fail running it	14:47
meebo	cllaudyu you have problems with your web cam	14:47
erUSUL	w00kee: Cyde that's right yes	14:47
orgthingy	Mohero: and I don't see your problem with people's choice on this :P ?	14:47
Mohero	orgthingy: that's what apt-get is for...	14:47
orgthingy	Mohero: plus, 64-bit got other cons	14:47
leohartx	which advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?	14:47
orgthingy	Mohero: proprietary software...	14:47
djuggler	a little OT: alright.. so chmod 0777 dirname chmod -r 0777 dirname will recursively change the permissions down the tree but I only want to be changing directories not files. My inclination is to ls for just directories and pipe it into chmod but there has to be a simplier way. Wassit?	14:48
cllaudyu	meebo yeah it doesn't work on ubuntu	14:48
Cyde	w00kee: Which, depending on how much of a hassle it is for you to back up everything, you may not want to do.	14:48
Mohero	I've been on 64bit for.... years, never had a problem	14:48
Mohero	many many many years	14:48
orgthingy	Mohero: I've been using 64-bit just recently myself	14:48
Cyde	Ditto here. Never had a problem with 64-bit.	14:48
orgthingy	Mohero: yes, it's your choice	14:48
orgthingy	but people don't like the "cons"	14:48
meebo	cllaudyu you will never fix it :) i use 8.04 dunno bout 9.04 maybe they fixed it	14:48
Mohero	running 32bit and 64bit apps on my 64bit..	14:48
orgthingy	other ones, that we havent mentioned, Mohero	14:48
cllaudyu	meebo i use 8.10	14:49
w00kee	cyde: hmm yeah, i understand dat, but is it worth it to go for the 64 bit	14:49
Mohero	orgthingy: haven't mentioned for fear of being shot down :)	14:49
Mohero	I understand choice	14:49
scott9876	does anyone have jackalope running, I'm upgading now	14:49
Mohero	I don't understand 32bit OS on 64bit Hardware	14:49
orgthingy	Mohero: good ^_^	14:49
Cyde	w00kee: How much RAM do you have? Or that you intend on adding to your current machine throughout its lifespan?	14:49
panaggio	if I'm using #juanty beta. there's no "udpate" for me?	14:49
orgthingy	Mohero: well, 64-bit arch isn't all perfect	14:49
Mohero	32bit is what calculators use :)	14:49
MrKeishii	where is the ubuntu 9.04 NBR torrent at?	14:49
leohartx	which advantages does ubuntu dvd version have (over cd version) ?	14:49
Cyde	w00kee: The biggest advantage of 64-bit is that it can address more than 4 GB of RAM.	14:49
erUSUL	djuggler: do that .... "find folder/ -type d -print0 \| xargs -0 sudo chmod 777" but be carefull... when people do this kind of things is usually becouse he is doing something wrong. what are you trying to achieve ?	14:49
Mint`	!jaunty	14:49
ubottu	Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents	14:49
Laibsch	why does "date --date='2009-04-23 14:02:23 +7 hours'" not give me 21:02:23?	14:49
rski	panaggio: just a small update should be updated already	14:50
orgthingy	locainex: just get CD version	14:50
orgthingy	leohartx: *	14:50
w00kee	cyde: i have a 1.5g RAM	14:50
Cyde	w00kee: Although depending on your motherboard's specs, it might only be able to handle 4 GB total anyway (2 slots each that max out at 2 GB).	14:50
Mohero	I have 8GB ram....	14:50
Cyde	w00kee: I would recommend a RAM upgrade, in that case :-D	14:50
shadeslayer	:O	14:50
leohartx	orgthingy : ? what do you mean ?	14:50
Mohero	in this one, I have 12GB at home	14:50
Cyde	w00kee: RAM is incredibly cheap. I'm not sure where you are in the world, but here you can upgrade RAM for something like $10 a GB.	14:50
orgthingy	leohartx: download CD version, it's all what you need	14:50
orgthingy	and probably want, leohartx	14:50
MaT-dg	w00kee: yes, it's (a little) faster, it can adress more ram, you push the devs to develop for 64bit (although I have no problems) and u use the full potential of your 64bit cpu	14:50
panaggio	rski: so will it be available or it's already available and I don't know how to get it?	14:50
resno	i gather the servers are under a heavy load, my upgrade has slowed to a crawl	14:51
MrKeishii	send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR	14:51
w00kee	cyde: i will stick with 32 bit for now, after upgrading my pc i will go for the 64bit, thanx for the infos :)	14:52
MaT-dg	Cyde: depends, size is not the only variable of good ram ;)	14:52
leohartx	orgthingy : i've used cd version for years, and now, i'm wondering about dvd version	14:52
MrKeishii	send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR	14:52
fabzor3	anyoneknow any good adhoc wireless lan network tools for ubuntu + my atheros wireless device?	14:52
Cyde	MaT-dg: Well, granted, if you have an i7 system and can only use DDR3 RAM, it will be a bit more ..	14:52
SixtyFold	Is it normal for you to have a /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd- in ubuntu?	14:52
orgthingy	leohartx: I'm not sure myself, probably Kubuntu/Ubuntu/Edubuntu/Xubuntu all together? and maybe with extra apps?	14:52
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fabzor3	it doesnt seem to come up in wireless networks	14:52
orgthingy	cause that's what dvd versions are usually for (i guess)	14:52
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Megarain	Any one got any idea why empathy lacks sound in ubuntu?	14:53
MrKeishii	send me a torrent link for Ubuntu 9.04 NBR	14:53
leohartx	orgthingy : so, we both are alike, aren't we ? :)	14:53
panaggio	!torrent	14:53
ubottu	Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	14:53
Pici	!torrents > MrKeishii	14:53
ubottu	MrKeishii, please see my private message	14:53
Nikola	!torrents > Nikola94	14:53
Nikola	!torrents > Nikola	14:54
ubottu	Nikola, please see my private message	14:54
leohartx	orgthingy : i mean our attitude to dvd version	14:54
Megarain	What attitude for DVD version?	14:54
Lint01	how can I browse windows shares in my local network?	14:54
MaT-dg	Cyde: DDR (1) RAM here is more expensive than DDR2 :P	14:54
ChopMonkey	!torrent	14:54
ubottu	Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	14:54
copland-leopard	yeah ddr is obsolete so no it more expensive	14:54
jhouse	The update manager gui does not detect that 9.04 is released. apt-get dist-upgrade also does nothing. Help :(	14:54
lightpriest_	Lint01, try "Places > Connect to server"	14:54
ChopMonkey	!torrents	14:55
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	14:55
Cyde	MaT-dg: Same here. But why would you need DDR1 RAM? That system is a junker :-D	14:55
SixtyFold	you can buy it used cheap though	14:55
Pici	!offtopic	14:55
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	14:55
SixtyFold	just fine a computer store that sells used ram	14:55
unixdawg	why is ubuntu+1 locked	14:55
SixtyFold	find	14:55
WistfulGeek	jhouse : try update-manager -d	14:55
Lint01	lightpriest_, i don't use Gnome	14:55
leohartx	Megarain: it's nothing, btw, have you ever used ubuntu dvd version ?	14:55
haggisbasheruk	PS3 Jaunty ?	14:55
lightpriest_	Lint01, ohh... ;p	14:55
Megarain	Nope. Always ran with the CD.	14:55
Cyde	11 minutes left in my download, then straight to The Pirate Bay and Mininova. Mwahahaha	14:55
MrKeishii	i'm looking for the torrent version of netbookremix 9.04	14:55
Spikius	if i download CD ISO, can i burn it to dvd+rw and will it work?	14:55
Megarain	Also, any one know how to get the sound notifications working in empathy?	14:56
Cyde	Spikius: As long as you burn it as an image, sure.	14:56
jhouse	WistfulGeek: Thanks, that works.	14:56
Spikius	Cyde are you TOTALY sure?	14:56
Spikius	i somehow thing i should convert it into something :D	14:56
meebo	!source	14:56
ubottu	You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html	14:56
Cyde	Spikius: Ohhh, you said CD to DVD+RW ?	14:56
Cyde	Spikius: I missed that.	14:56
leohartx	is anybody here know where to get md5 code of ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?	14:56
Cyde	Spikius: Umm ... is it really so hard just to burn it to a CD?	14:57
Spikius	i dont have CD right now :D	14:57
Cyde	Go borrow one from a neighbor. Surely that'll be less hassle than trying to burn it to a DVD.	14:57
bercik	Hello	14:57
Anarkist	you can burn a cd image on a dvd	14:57
Anarkist	easy	14:57
lightpriest_	Spikius, you could use a usb disk	14:57
mint3	hi	14:57
bromide	if you have a Windows machine I know ImgBurn can burn CD ISOs to DVDs properly	14:58
bercik	I have got off-topic question. Laptop video cards are different to desktop? Could You send me official nvidia site with laptop cards?	14:58
Spikius	usb is prety slow..	14:58
bromide	dunno about Linux though	14:58
Megarain	Okay, I'm going to ask the empathy instant messaging question one more time, then I'm off to work on some writing. Any one know how to get sound working?	14:58
Spikius	bromide thanks :)	14:58
Mortuis	I wanted to start over with wine, so I removed it via APT and then deleted ~/.wine but when I click on "Applications" on the desktop I still see a folder for Wine on the bottom. Anyone know how I remove that folder?	14:58
mint3	i was already on the beta version of jaunty. i think its finally out. how to fully upgrade to it	14:58
ikonia	bercik: if you know it's offtopic, please don't ask	14:58
ikonia	!offtopic > bercik	14:58
ubottu	bercik, please see my private message	14:58
Lint01	mint3, you already are	14:58
bercik	i dont know where to ask	14:58
lightpriest_	Spikius, it might be slower then a DVD but it isn't "slow"	14:58
pawel__	how to start udate manager?	14:58
shadeslayer	Megarain: #telepathy if there are any problems ;)	14:59
mint3	Lint01, all i done is updated	14:59
BoltClock	pawel__: system>administration>update manager	14:59
lightpriest_	Spikius, i mean, it isn't that slow ;p	14:59
bromide	depends all upon the USB stick you're using	14:59
Sinchan	just type update-manager -d	14:59
dthmnk	or apt-get upgrade then apt-get update	14:59
mint3	so thats it then, the version i am on is the final one	14:59
MaT-dg	Cyde: my old desktop (almost 5 years) still has DDR... bought the mobo at the time where DDR2 was still very new and 3 - 4 times more expensive	14:59
Megarain	I'll bug them again. Last time I was there they were kinda blaming the distro.	14:59
Jimmymaniac	Hi. I see nothing on the topic so i ask. Is there a very recent update that breaks internet conectivity in both hardy and intrepid? first yesterday in a friend's hardy and now today in my intrepid, nothing resolves, but yesterday a windows virtual machine on hardy and today this windows install both get internet allright. Ideas?	14:59
dthmnk	mint3, as long as update manager is not showing you any more updates, yes	14:59
Cyde	MaT-dg: Time to get a new system :-D	14:59
Lint01	mint3, if you installed all updates, you're already on release version	14:59
mint3	dthmnk, yeah it shows me nothing	14:59
mint3	ok cool	14:59
dthmnk	yeah you're full updated then	14:59
mint3	no big difference hehe	15:00
dthmnk	fully*	15:00
MaT-dg	Cyde: still runs wel on XP.. ;)	15:00
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Cyde	MaT-dg: Well, maybe it runs XP. I'm sure it doesn't run it well. Nothing does :-P	15:00
mint3	i really like jaunty. so stable.	15:00
Mortuis	Anyone know how to remove items from the "Applications" dropdown?	15:01
mint3	is there a way to tell which o.s version ur using	15:01
shane2peru	where can I get help printing via command line with lp??	15:01
mint3	like "ver" on windows sort of thing.	15:01
Pici	!version \| mint3	15:01
ubottu	mint3: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »	15:01
shane2peru	!lp	15:01
ubottu	Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/	15:01
shane2peru	!lpr	15:01
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about lpr	15:01
SandGorgon	Mortuis: right at the bottom should be "Add/Remove"	15:01
MaxxTaDeeR	Hi ) how can help me to install an tar.gz application	15:02
Jimmymaniac	shane2peru: man lpr?	15:02
mint3	yep says no lsb modules available. release 9,04 codename jaunty	15:02
xukun	how can I mount my dvd-rom for my kvm guest windows pc?	15:02
mint3	cool stuff	15:02
hwilde	hi I have two monitors with two xscreens using nvidia-config. when I only have mouse and kb activity in the right monitor, both of them dim and go to sleep. only activity in the left monitor is recognized to wake it up. how can I fix this please?	15:02
Cyde	SandGorgon: Umm, that actually uninstalls software.	15:02
mint3	!lp	15:02
ubottu	Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/	15:02
ikonia	mint3: untar it and read the INSTALL and/or README file	15:02
Cyde	SandGorgon: Not sure that's what Mortuis is asking for.	15:02
shane2peru	when I print via lp it seems as though the paper comes out as letter paper size instead of a4, when I set the option media=a4 it doesn't help, using a HP 1022n laserjet	15:02
Lint01	MaxxTaDeeR, open it in fileroller and peruse README inside	15:02
Jimmymaniac	anybody knows of something like what i described? cause and more importantly, fixes?	15:02
hwilde	Mortuis, right click on the top of the menu, edit menu	15:02
mint3	ikonia, i dont have anythin to untar ?	15:02
shane2peru	Jimmymaniac: I have been over the man page many times.	15:02
ikonia	mint3: sorry - not your	15:02
Mortuis	hwilde: Thanks	15:02
MaxxTaDeeR	yes	15:02
hwilde	shane2peru, man lpr	15:02
Cyde	How many KDE users here?	15:02
* mint3 pokes ikonia		15:02
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: untar it and read the README/INSTALL file	15:02
mint3	Cyde, Gnome is better	15:02
Cyde	mint3: Feh :-P	15:03
Cyde	I run KDE on top of Ubuntu.	15:03
shane2peru	hwilde: man lpr has less info then man lp. :)	15:03
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>I did it	15:03
MaT-dg	Cyde: ah wel, I just keep it to run some older games, play music with the x-fi soundcard and 7.1 boxes attached (splendid sound) and my nokia software to send concatenated sms	15:03
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: ok, great	15:03
mint3	well, kde "might" look better	15:03
bromide	CDE or bust! wait...	15:03
mint3	but i dont like the idea of those unstable plasmoids etc	15:03
Jimmymaniac	shane2peru: and what do you wanna do?	15:03
Daniel_G	which is better is a matter of opinion, there is no right or wrong answer...	15:03
Cyde	mint3: I don't even use the plasmoids. I never see my desktop.	15:03
FirstSgt	if i type users, how can I tell which TTY they are on?	15:03
mint3	Cyde, then what do you use? Terminal ?	15:03
hwilde	shane2peru, examples here: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/cgi-bin/manpage?lpr	15:03
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>Now what i have to do ?	15:04
SandGorgon	Cyde: i just use the picture frame plasmoid	15:04
hwilde	FirstSgt, who -u	15:04
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: read the README/INSTALL files	15:04
Cyde	mint3: No, I use KDE. I never see the desktop because I always have windows covering it.	15:04
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>I read it	15:04
mint3	oh right, Cyde	15:04
shane2peru	Jimmymaniac: when I print a page it comes out as though it is on letter paper, not a4 paper, I even set the media size to a4, or pagesize, and nothing seems to help.	15:04
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: ok, follow the instructions	15:04
hwilde	!kde > Cyde	15:04
ubottu	Cyde, please see my private message	15:04
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>Just run	15:04
MaxxTaDeeR	$ ./autogen.sh	15:04
MaxxTaDeeR	$ make	15:04
mint3	!kde > mint3	15:04
ubottu	mint3, please see my private message	15:04
Cyde	I don't really use ~/Desktop for storing any files. I just use the File Manager.	15:04
akravets	hello	15:04
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: follow the instructions	15:04
Raylz	1.6k users in here :)	15:05
Cyde	hwilde: Um, I'm aware of what KDE is :-/	15:05
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>how can i run that	15:05
hwilde	Cyde, help in #kubuntu	15:05
Cyde	hwilde: I'm not asking for help ..	15:05
shane2peru	hwilde: is lpr better/updated rather than lp?	15:05
Cyde	I was just wondering who uses KDE?	15:05
MaxxTaDeeR	i just extract the tar.gz	15:05
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: exactly as it says in the document	15:05
sebsebseb	Raylz: yeah I kind of expected more, but nope	15:05
mint3	leave Cyde alone guys	15:05
bonzi	how do I upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04	15:05
bonzi	?	15:05
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to build	15:05
pvandewyngaerde	Cyde: i use kde	15:05
ikonia	!upgrade > bonzi	15:05
ubottu	bonzi, please see my private message	15:05
sebsebseb	bonzi: you got to get 8.10 first	15:05
Cyde	bonzi: Upgrade to 8.10 first.	15:05
mint3	!jaunty > bonzi	15:05
Pici	Cyde: Please do not take polls in this channel.	15:05
akravets	I downloaded Ubuntu 9.04 alternative cd but when I boot from it I don't have option to try Ubuntu without installing....	15:05
Cyde	It wasn't a poll either :-(	15:06
erUSUL	bonzi: 8.04 --> 8.10 --> 9.04 two step process	15:06
hwilde	bonzi, system- > admin -> update manager	15:06
bonzi	oh k thx	15:06
pvandewyngaerde	akravets: alternate is non graphical	15:06
joaopinto	akravets, that option is only available o the desktop cd	15:06
mint3	Cyde, i did use kde before.	15:06
incorrect	I am going to wipe my laptop reinstall using ext4	15:06
pepperjack	bonzi: itll take about 16hrs if you try to do it today :)	15:06
akravets	ah damn	15:06
Lint01	how can I troubleshoot absense of sound?	15:06
mint3	Cyde, however for the past few months, i been on Gnome	15:06
djuggler	I'm using an application that errors with "Extension 'gd' was not found. This extension is used for image manipulation" I searched the repositories but didn't find it. Obviously this app is doing captcha or something. Where do I get GD for ubuntu desktop (I've installed mysql,apache,php and those are working).	15:06
hwilde	!alsa > Lint01	15:06
ubottu	Lint01, please see my private message	15:06
bonzi	thx for the info :)	15:06
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>please lets start alt first... i have an file.tar.gz	15:06
akravets	ok thanks	15:06
pvandewyngaerde	Lint01: try speaker-test	15:06
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>How can i install that	15:06
Sinchan	if use aptitude, is it okay to upgrade to jaunty ?	15:06
Raylz	bonzi: save your home directory and do a new install	15:06
Raylz	its less painfull	15:06
Sinchan	like this : sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade && sudo aptitude purge ??	15:07
hwilde	MaxxTaDeeR, tar -xzvf <filena,me>	15:07
shane2peru	hwilde: which is better to use? lp or lpr, and what is the difference?	15:07
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: untar the file - in that file there are normally two files called INSTALL and README - read the files and follow the instructions/commands in the file	15:07
hwilde	shane2peru, doesn't matter just use what works	15:07
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sebsebseb	how do I upgrade 8.04 to 8.10 on another computer, when it refuses to download some packages and gives me 404 not found messages? I guess I can always change the sources myself and do it the old way, if nessarey	15:07
bonzi	I think backing up home and clean install is better	15:07
akravets	does anybody know if Ubuntu 9.04 works on Lenovo T61? I currently have 8.04 on T61, tried 8.10 but the system hangs after 5 min of use. Wondering if this was fixed in 9.04?	15:07
bromide	pepperjack - bovine female of significant religious importance, 16 hours?	15:07
shane2peru	hwilde: ok, let me give lpr a few runs and see what it does. thanks for the link.	15:07
Sinchan	no one use aptitude command ?	15:08
bromide	Sinchan - I did	15:08
ikonia	sebsebseb: if the repos are unavailable its probably because they are getting hit for the 9.04 update	15:08
hwilde	shane2peru, lpr always worked for me. you just have to point it at the printer	15:08
Pici	Sinchan: Don't use that way to upgrade, please use the reccomended methods.	15:08
sebsebseb	ikonia: yeah that's what I thought, but the 8.04 repos are seperate?	15:08
joaopinto	sebsebseb, you are most likely getting an overloaded or incomplete mirror, you should not do it manually, there are specific upgrade conditions only covered by the update manager	15:08
ikonia	sebsebseb: no, they are on the same servers	15:08
thorin	I cant get to mount my ipodtouch with itunnel, and am pretty sure that i'm messing up with something, as i'm a complete newb with linux	15:08
Sinchan	i see..	15:08
Sinchan	i'll try first then	15:09
Sinchan	:)	15:09
sebsebseb	joaopinto: such as?	15:09
shane2peru	hwilde: right, I don't have a problem hitting the printer, it isn't printing out correctly, so must be 1. a command problem (user error) or 2. driver error, which I doubt.	15:09
magentar	what's a good program to play shoutcast streams?	15:09
mint3	winamp ?	15:09
Spikius	hmz thats weird.. no peers from my country currently downloading..	15:09
thorin	in the tutorial i'm following they gave this.. The binary is pretty simple:	15:09
thorin	itunnel [port]	15:09
magentar	well i was hoping for opensource software	15:09
pepperjack	magentar: beep media player imo	15:09
joaopinto	sebsebseb, I don't know the details, i just know there are distro upgrade conditions covered by the update manager, which are not part of the regular package upgrades process	15:09
scunizi	magentar: vlc will do it.. so will streamtuner	15:09
thorin	what should i do with that? the terminal says that doesnt exist..	15:09
hwilde	magentar, totem plays them fine	15:10
magentar	pepperjack, thx. i tried songbird but the api seems unstable	15:10
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia> i wrote in terminal tar xzfv file.tar.gz	15:10
dergringo	Hmm Where has the working ATI driver gone in Jaunty? Proprietary driver has been working since dapper for me. Now it's broken. Envy shows no compatible driver.	15:10
dubno	akravets: I run 8.10 on several T61's -- seems to work fine	15:10
ChopMonkey	why is there no torrent file for netbook remix on http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ ?	15:10
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: what is it you want to install ?	15:10
mint3	dergringo, use the backport drivers, did it for me	15:10
joaopinto	dergringo, the proprietrary ati driver dropped support for some older models	15:10
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>and there is somethig doing in terminal	15:10
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: what do you want to install (what software package)	15:10
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>some program	15:11
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: called what ?	15:11
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>wifiscanner	15:11
Jeruvy	ChopMonkey: UNR releases are not on the same schedule as ubuntu releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR for info about this	15:11
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: ok - so that's nothing to do with ubuntu I suggest you ask in one of your "hack" channels that you're in	15:11
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>i just want to learn how i can install programs with tar.gz	15:12
Sniper606	So is jaunty supported in here now?	15:12
WistfulGeek	ask Google	15:12
joaopinto	!compiling \| MaxxTaDeeR	15:12
ubottu	MaxxTaDeeR: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	15:12
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: ok - read the documents in the tar, and as it's a "hacking" program ask in one of the "hacking" channels you're in	15:13
joaopinto	Sniper606, yes	15:13
leohartx	is anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?	15:13
zetheroo	how do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?	15:13
joaopinto	leohartx, extra packages ?	15:13
Sniper606	well im running the rc and i have receive no notification of updates	15:13
pepperjack	leohartx: if you have poor internet connection the dvd should have more packages maybe	15:13
mint3	i still never seen anything load / boot faster than MAC s	15:14
leohartx	joaopinto : is that all ?	15:14
mint3	os*	15:14
Madpilot	Sniper606, System->Admin->Update Manager to run it manually, from the RC that'll get you to final release state	15:14
leohartx	pepperjack: have you ever installed dvd version ?	15:14
leohartx	is anyone here know about advantages which ubuntu dvd version have over cd version ? btw, where can i get MD5SUMS for ubuntu 9.04 dvd version ?	15:14
pepperjack	leohartx: not on ubuntu but they have to do something with the extra space :) im assuming more deb files	15:15
Jeruvy	leohartx: the dvd only offers extra translations over the cd. see the ubuntu download page	15:15
Cyde	OK, I've uploaded Jaunty to The Pirate Bay and Mininova: http://www.mininova.org/tor/2518746 http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4865683	15:15
joaopinto	leohartx, yes, it is	15:15
dergringo	joaopinto, weil it's an ATI 1950XTX and I bought it in 2007. I can't imagine that they have thrown out 2 years old cards :)	15:15
Cyde	And I am off to work guys.	15:15
blackadr	hello folks	15:15
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia> i open that file by archivetool??	15:16
blackadr	anyone here know how well fglrx is supported in 9.10?	15:16
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: you said you'd already opened it	15:16
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: thats what the tar did	15:16
DShepherd	hey all :-) my fellow ubunteros	15:16
gypsymauro	why I can't find vlc in jaunty?	15:16
niekie	Hello DShepherd.	15:16
shane2peru	hwilde: is ps already formated for the printer? Therefore I can just use the -l option? lpr -PhpLaser -l file.ps	15:16
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: you also lied to me and said you'd read the INSTALL and README file from within the tar file - which I now know you did not as you don't know how to open it	15:16
sebsebseb	gypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc	15:16
melkart	what can i do to make ubuntu do something about the broken translations? ubuntu just shipped with broken translations	15:16
frostburn	blackadr, 9.10 hasn't been developed yet, packages haven't been decided	15:16
bram_	hello all. I have a question (great surprise!). I was wondering if I can the UNR images burnt to a USB stick, and try it out on my macbook pro. Yesterday night I tried writing the image using dd, but no luck (did not show up in bootable devices). I also tried formatting the USB stick with fat32 (and MBR), then using dd to write the image, but no luck either. Does anyone have any pointers?	15:16
DShepherd	niekie, how was jaunty been for you so far?	15:16
leohartx	Jeruvy : i saw, but i'm wondering does extra translation take spaces of 3,6 gb ?	15:16
blackadr	er	15:16
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>Ok i open that archive with archive tool a read documentation	15:17
blackadr	9.04 even :)	15:17
niekie	DShepherd: I've not installed Jaunty yet.	15:17
nick_h[litage]	i just updated my firefox3 package, and it seems i need to restart firefox. any suggestions for how to do that without losing my firefox session state (ie: windows and tabs)?	15:17
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>now ?	15:17
DShepherd	niekie, same here. well carry on! :-)	15:17
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: then why are you asking how to open it	15:17
hwilde	shane2peru, if you have printer driver that support postscript yes	15:17
zetheroo	how do you upgrade to the latest ALSA?	15:17
Pici	leohartx: The dvd includes portions of the universe repositories as well, so you could isntall more software without having to download it from the repos.	15:17
shane2peru	hwilde: ahh, that may be my problem, thanks!	15:17
d34th	My 8.10 box isnt working i tried restarting but after they released 9.04 nothing i do gets my box to work	15:17
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>tell me please how can i run some comands that is in INSTALL file ??	15:18
leohartx	Pici : have you ever tried it ?	15:18
gypsymauro	sebsebseb: I'm searching it in synaptic and it doesn't find it	15:18
virtx	hi	15:18
ikonia	MaxxTaDeeR: you type them how they say, and I suggest you take this to one of your "hacking" channels for support	15:18
sebsebseb	gypsymauro: maybe it's in another repo	15:18
sebsebseb	gypsymauro: can you install via command line?	15:18
sebsebseb	gypsymauro: sudo apt-get install vlc	15:18
virtx	what pkg contains asm/page.h ? linu-kernel-headers doesnt	15:18
frostburn	nick_h[litage], firefox should prompt you to exit firefox and save tabs? if not get tab mix plus	15:18
virtx	linux*	15:18
firsm	The jaunty cd fails to start with "Buffer I/O error on device sr0", any ideas?	15:19
sebsebseb	!find vlc	15:19
ubottu	Found: libvlc-dev, libvlc2, libvlccore-dev, libvlccore0, mozilla-plugin-vlc (and 10 others)	15:19
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sebsebseb	!info vlc	15:19
ubottu	vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.9.9a-2ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 1652 kB, installed size 3660 kB	15:19
frostburn	firsm, your cd was burned too quickly and your drive cannot read it	15:19
sebsebseb	gypsymauro: ok it's in universe according to that, you got universe enabled?	15:19
grimd34th	yo i cant get my ubuntu box working after they released update my box wont start up	15:19
blackadr	anyone where who was using fglrx with 8.10 and upgraded to 9.04? Does fglrx work? or is there a version that works?	15:19
mint3	blackadr, it works am on jaunty	15:19
firsm	frostburn: mmh okay, I'll try cdrecord speed=1 then, thanks	15:19
sebsebseb	grimd34th: you upgraded to 9.04, and now can't get on Ubuntu?	15:19
virtx	error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory	15:20
grimd34th	no, its still 8.10	15:20
sebsebseb	grimd34th: oh you can't upgrade you mean?	15:20
zagabar1	How do I install a program that comes with a Makefile?	15:20
grimd34th	i cant turn the thing on	15:20
ikonia	zagabar1: what program do you want	15:20
pvandewyngaerde	is firefox 3.0.9 in ubuntu 9.04 ?	15:20
mint3	!makefile	15:20
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about makefile	15:20
sebsebseb	grimd34th: your computer won't go on at all?	15:20
mint3	!find make	15:20
blackadr	mint3: danke schon! looks like it's upgraden tyme	15:20
ubottu	Found: automake, automake1.4, automake1.7, automake1.9, automake1.9-doc (and 56 others)	15:20
grimd34th	yea	15:20
Hetor	can anyone help me with sound problem?	15:20
blackadr	bbl	15:20
mint3	blackadr, bitte	15:20
bram_	anyone? .... unr + macbook pro? :)	15:20
Type3Singularity	zagabar1: If its just a makefile, type 'make' then 'make install', ./configure might bee needed if it has a ./configure file	15:21
sebsebseb	pvandewyngaerde: 3.0.9 does not exist, you either meant Firefox 3.0 or Firefox 2.0.9	15:21
mint3	!fglrx	15:21
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	15:21
grimd34th	so i got on a diff pc sshed to a server then irc just so i cam get some support	15:21
sebsebseb	pvandewyngaerde: Firefox 3.0 is in Ibex	15:21
asdf_	how do i not get the new notifications and instead keep the old ones when i update?	15:21
asdf_	ie libnotify?	15:21
sebsebseb	pvandewyngaerde: uh in jaunty	15:21
govatent	hey guys	15:21
zagabar1	ikonia: http://www.sirlab.de/linux/download_vocoder.html the JACK-enabled verison	15:21
MaxxTaDeeR	<ikonia>Ooooohhh ,, you do not understand me...	15:21
govatent	i saw the new ubuntu is out	15:21
mint3	indeed govatent , today being the day.	15:21
sebsebseb	govatent: yep and the download servers will be packed	15:21
govatent	is there a torrent for it yet?	15:21
nick_h[litage]	frostburn: i just clicked File > Quit in Firefox, then started Firefox. none of the previous state has returned. i guess i'll use Tab Mix Plus...	15:21
danbhfive	asdf_: try installing notifications-daemon let me know if that works	15:21
mint3	!jaunty > govatent	15:22
ubottu	govatent, please see my private message	15:22
lifi	pvandewyngaerde, yea its 3.0.9 in jaunty	15:22
asdf_	danbhfive, i havnt upgraded, im scared	15:22
pvandewyngaerde	sebsebseb: i meant Firefox 3 version 3.0.9	15:22
grimd34th	i havent upgraded and my box wont start /cry	15:22
* sebsebseb Firefox 3.1 soon :)		15:22
mint3	yep its firefox 3.0.9 on jaunty	15:22
lvlefisto	!torrent > govatent	15:22
ubottu	govatent, please see my private message	15:22
sebsebseb	pvandewyngaerde: yeah the number thing my bad etc. anyway Firefox 3.1 soon :)	15:22
nativeangels	join #wine	15:22
nativeangels	can anyone here help me with wine	15:23
DASPRiD	nativeangels, just beer, sorry	15:23
ikonia	nativeangels: the people in #wine-hq are a good bet for wine specific help	15:23
ugliefrog	im just hoping after it finishes upgrade it doesnt freeze up....i tried one of the daily releases last week and kept freezing up	15:23
nativeangels	ok	15:23
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alex1	JJ is awsome !	15:23
virtx	how can solve error: asm/page.h: No such file or directory	15:24
ikonia	virtx: install the missing headers	15:24
DASPRiD	(beer = beer emulates everything restless)	15:24
virtx	ikonia, i've installed linux-kernel-headers, but nothing	15:24
grimd34th	so noone knows how to solve my problem	15:24
ikonia	virtx: looks like a libc header, or a gcc include	15:24
nativeangels	all i wanted to know was why the pointer dosnt move onto the application opened with wine	15:24
aor	Ctrl+Alt+Backspace no longer works?	15:24
darkham	solved network-mamager problems?	15:24
v_ta	ai,,,	15:25
DASPRiD	aor, you have to re-enable it	15:25
DASPRiD	should be describes in the changelog	15:25
a931bw	hi all	15:25
racecar56	hi	15:25
fitelpater	I disable allways network-manager and install wicd Oo	15:25
a931bw	pm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine	15:25
b00uncer	is there a problem with the latest (downloaded today) updates to 9.04 RC (i.e. which should become 9.04)? After upgrading my keyboard and mouse won't work after X starts, they stop responding as if they were plugged off...any help?	15:25
mint3	aor, no it doesnt but you can make it work optionally if you wish.	15:25
niekie	Anyone get Jaunty working on their EeePC yet? :)	15:25
a931bw	pm me that one who can help with Turnng on antialiasing in Wine	15:25
aor	Is there a way of restart X on the base install?	15:25
zer0c00l	hi, i am downloading ubuntu 8.04 from ubuntu website, is it patched with all updates released so far	15:25
darph	hi, i can't see language pacl 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed	15:25
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niekie	zer0c00l: 8.04? I hope you're getting 9.04 ;)	15:26
ikonia	a931bw: please don't repeat your question as often, leave it 10 - 15 minutes so that more people can see it	15:26
govatent	how did you guys download 9.04?	15:26
virtx	ikonia, i've installed linux-libc-dev, but nothing always	15:26
zer0c00l	niekie, its 8.04 lts	15:26
mint3	zer0c00l, no, you will need to update them. why not try 9,04	15:26
niekie	zer0c00l: Though, well, 8.04 might me a good choice too, if you want LTS then.	15:26
ikonia	virtx: it may be looking in the wrong place, check the configure script	15:26
mint3	!jaunty \| govatent	15:26
niekie	s/me/be/	15:26
ubottu	govatent: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/810 - Please use !torrents	15:26
govatent	!torrents	15:26
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	15:26
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virtx	ikonia, there isn't nothing page.h in the system	15:27
niekie	LTS' are nice, but I usually prefer the latest and greatest myself :)	15:27
ikonia	virtx: gcc headers then	15:27
mint3	yeah gcc headers	15:27
virtx	ikonia, the name of package?	15:27
vixey	jaunty totally crashed vmware :/	15:27
zer0c00l	mint3, niekie do we have any releases (even unofficial ) that is patched with updates released so far	15:27
ikonia	virtx: no idea witout looking	15:27
shane2peru	hwilde: if the printer doesn't support ps then I can still print via lpr?	15:27
vixey	is it a sign that it will also crash on my computer?	15:27
KoolD	!torrents	15:28
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	15:28
mint3	zer0c00l, not that i know of.	15:28
Xintruder	hi	15:28
Xintruder	Grep kk *.php is not searching inside the text files for the 'kk' charcters	15:28
Xintruder	what am i doing wrong?	15:28
Xintruder	i have a group of php files	15:28
Xintruder	i want to search for the kk characters in them	15:29
zer0c00l	any one here knows where could i download fully patched version of ubuntu?	15:29
ikonia	zer0c00l: from ubuntu.com	15:29
darph	hi, i can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.	15:29
ikonia	zer0c00l: get the latest release of the version you want and it will be up to date as of that point release.	15:29
KoolD	is it possible to upgrade 64bits hassle free if i'm currently running 32bits	15:30
zer0c00l	ikonia, ok	15:30
Xintruder	anyone?	15:30
Xintruder	:	15:30
vixey	is there a list of hardware that 9.04 is known to boot on?	15:30
b00uncer	ah I'll just try and solve it myself..maybe reinstalling the X-related packages helps	15:30
hateball	KoolD: You need to reinstall. If you keep /home on a separate partition it's a fairly trivial trask	15:30
virtx	ikonia, there isn't gcc headers, just libc6-dev, but i've this	15:30
anom1	zer0c00l: are you trying to, say, download an older but LTS version? or you just want the latest version?	15:30
fitelpater	/j #launchpad	15:30
fitelpater	ups	15:30
zer0c00l	anom1, LTS	15:31
KoolD	hateball: so i backup and reinstall??	15:31
sv_osusr1	I am looking for non-memory intensive picture viewer in ubuntu	15:31
niekie	fitelpater: Heh. I always do that :\	15:31
zer0c00l	anom1, I want LTS with all patches released so far	15:31
hateball	KoolD: Pretty much	15:31
mrwes	hateball: you can reinstall without having /home on a separate partition -- since Hardy	15:31
pepperjack	sv_osusr1: gqview, feh	15:31
hateball	mrwes: did not know that :)	15:31
racecar56_	ack restarting just to restart X is a PAIN	15:31
shivam	Ubuntu 8.10 cannot detect my bison web cam. Please help	15:31
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sv_osusr1	pepperjack: thx	15:31
ikonia	virtx: there is a gcc headers / dev package	15:32
zer0c00l	i guess we could do it with reconstructor	15:32
mrwes	hateball: nor did I :)	15:32
racecar56_	i _HATE_ this new no ctrl-alt-backspace feature	15:32
Pici	!dontzap \| racecar56_	15:32
ubottu	racecar56_: To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable »	15:32
virtx	ikonia, i cant find it	15:32
mrwes	hateball: and of course you would format the partition	15:32
anom1	zer0c00l: you can't install the original 8.04 and update from there?	15:32
racecar56_	it dosent work	15:32
mrwes	would not*	15:32
racecar56_	Pici, i tried that	15:32
sandralafe	hello	15:32
racecar56_	Pici, it dosent work	15:32
zer0c00l	anom1, its for mass deployment some 50 computers, it would be nice if its updated and it will save bandwidth	15:33
Qtpaxa	is there any chance of using 2 different mouses in the same computer?	15:33
sandralafe	im searching for the ubuntu jaunty jackelope room	15:33
jeiworth	uhm did they just close the ubuntu+1 and kick everybody over here? fg	15:33
vixey	Qtpaxa yeah	15:33
anom1	zer0c00l: ah. silly me. can't help you there, i'm n00b in this.	15:33
racecar56	Pici, spoke too soon	15:33
racecar56	Pici, xD	15:33
vixey	Qtpaxa I did that once	15:33
sandralafe	but i cant seem to find it anymore	15:33
racecar56	Pici, it works now	15:33
Pici	racecar56: I figured as soon as you left.	15:33
zer0c00l	anom1, no problem :)	15:33
DanielV	hi, perhaps anybody can help me? I have downloaded and burned the 9.04 desktop CD. I do not want to do a fresh install but just upgrade all my computers. How to do that?	15:33
ksbalaji	is there any other latest LTS than 8.04?	15:33
racecar56	Pici, lol	15:33
vixey	not on ubuntu though don' tknow how with ubuntu	15:33
bram_	hey guys, is there a channel dedicated to the netbook release of ubuntu?	15:33
Pici	ksbalaji: no	15:33
Qtpaxa	vixey: did they worked individually?	15:33
vixey	Qtpaxa yeah I used it for 3D drawing	15:34
jeiworth	ksbalaji: LTS release are every 2 years, next is 10.04	15:34
mint3	sandralafe, dont think it exist no more. i.e today jaunty is officially out. hence supported in here.	15:34
sandralafe	does somebody know the name of the chatroom for ubuntu 9.04?	15:34
Qtpaxa	vixey: where did u get that?	15:34
n8tuser	DanielV -> have you not learned yet, upgrading can cause you to loose hair? :P do a fresh install instead	15:34
Pici	sandralafe: This one.	15:34
Madpilot	sandralafe, this one	15:34
mint3	used to be #ubuntu+1 i think, sandralafe .	15:34
vixey	Qtpaxa I wrote it based on the USB API	15:34
niekie	DanielV: You do not need to download 9.04 to upgrade to it. However, now that you have already done that, you can just insert the CD into your Ubuntu system and a message should pop up.	15:34
sandralafe	ok ill try	15:34
frostburn	is there an easy way to display mem usage for a process in human readable format kb/mb?	15:34
Pici	mint3: Its released now, so its #ubuntu	15:34
shivam	Ubuntu 8.10 is not detecting bison web cam. Is there any solution. Please help!!	15:34
ubuntuphile	does ubuntu DVD contain VLC media player?	15:34
darph	anyone?	15:34
Qtpaxa	vixey: but u don't know how to make that on ubuntu, do u?	15:34
sandralafe	doesnt exist ubuntu+1	15:34
JMFTheVCI	so ubuntu+1 and ubuntu channels are now the same?	15:35
mint3	Pici, i know that. i was telling the chap that its supported here now.	15:35
racecar56	yeah	15:35
vixey	no	15:35
mint3	sandralafe, read what i said. i said it existed uptil today or yesterday.	15:35
racecar56	ubuntu+1 redirects here	15:35
darph	i can't see language pack 'divehi' in language support. up until 8.10 it was listed.	15:35
sandralafe	anyway i cant watch hbo movies neither on sm player nor on vlc	15:35
mint3	sandralafe, if you need help with jaunty , ask HERE.	15:35
sandralafe	ok	15:35
n8tuser	frostburn -> try using sed after you feed it from free ?	15:35
JMFTheVCI	racecar56: this is going to be a very busy channel!	15:35
racecar56	try doing /join #ubuntu+1 and it says "#ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel"	15:35
J-_	!webcam \| shivam	15:35
jbroome	#ubuntu+1 is closed until karmic devel starts	15:35
ubottu	shivam: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras	15:35
racecar56	JMFTheVCI, yeah	15:35
Shadow121	What is the recommended Directory to install software compiled from source?	15:36
DanielV	Niekie: yes, then a message appears that the CD contains packages. It is then also added to the software sources. But then: the notification appears that there are updates. It contains the new distribution release message. When I choose to upgrade it starts downloading instead of using the cd!	15:36
sandralafe	i installed: ubuntu restricted extras, smplayer, vlc, me-tv, tunapie, medibuntu keyring	15:36
firsm	Ok, I re-burned the ubuntu jaunty cd at the lowest possible speed, but now all I get is a black screen after the splash screen. anyone else has that problem?	15:36
danbhfive	Shadow121: use checkinstall	15:36
ksbalaji	n8tuser, I have been upgrading steadily from gutsy. Till 8.04 no problem at all.	15:36
JMFTheVCI	Is there a list of ubuntu-sub channels for particular areas of support? Something that can be in the announcement message?	15:36
n8tuser	Shadow121 -> /usr/local/bin	15:36
racecar56	does ubuntu 9.04 like the hp pavilion dv9000's bultin webcam?	15:36
wrice_	Shadow121: /usr/local/bin	15:36
n8tuser	ksbalaji -> you are one of the lucky few	15:36
djiezes	I see Amarok 1.4.x isn't in the default repositories (9.04). Am I right or am I missing something? +What's the best way to install it?	15:36
hbekel	Shadow121: usually the ./configure --prefix defaults to /usr/local	15:36
racecar56	i dont really care if it dosent, as i dont use webcams	15:36
pepperjack	Shadow121: depends. if you just want to make install i often place it in like /home/$USER/local otherwise it gets sloppy trying to track down stuff that was manually installed	15:36
frostburn	racecar56, yes and no, it's pretty hard to get it working, haven't tried with 9.04 though... and my laptop died	15:36
mint3	n8tuser, jaunty install is smooth, same for me.	15:37
racecar56	frostburn, k	15:37
Shadow121	Thanks guys	15:37
racecar56	frostburn, i think it worked for me, but its been a while	15:37
epscylonb	is it out yet ?	15:37
Madpilot	JMFTheVCI, ppl here will usually point specialty channels out as required. There's a mostly-complete list in the ubuntu wiki	15:37
n8tuser	mint3 we will see, lets wait for a few weeks and see how it goes	15:37
racecar56	frostburn, O_O it works	15:37
simmerz	am I better off doing a clean install of Jaunty, or upgrading from Intrepid?	15:37
JMFTheVCI	madpilot: Ok, thanks.	15:37
epscylonb	upgrade from warty, thats what i am doing	15:37
frostburn	racecar56, make sure it never overheats, my vid card melted =(	15:38
oshua86_	hey guys, if I got ubuntu i know it comes with gnome as default, how can I switch back and forth between gnome and kde?	15:38
jbroome	epscylonb: going from warty to jaunty?	15:38
Whitor	Why isn't the torrent available on the bit torrent section of the Ubuntu main site ?	15:38
firsm	simmerz: probably upgrade, jaunty cd doesn't even boot for me.	15:38
n8tuser	simmerz -> my suggestion is fresh install	15:38
mint3	n8tuser, i have been using it since the alpha version was out and honestly can say had no hang ups or whatsoever so far	15:38
racecar56	frostburn, my vid card acts weird	15:38
joaopinto	oshua86_, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package for kde	15:38
pepperjack	oshua86_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop then just choose one at login screen	15:38
racecar56	frostburn, mine is 2 years old	15:38
mint3	oshua86_, you can always download kde.	15:38
jbroome	simmerz: i've done both, and have had no issues with an upgrade	15:38
thalias09	I want to congratulate the Ubuntu devs for this release.	15:38
n8tuser	mint3 -> you did a fresh install, not an upgrade	15:38
oshua86_	pepperjack, great let me try	15:38
mint3	!kde > oshua86_	15:38
ubottu	oshua86_, please see my private message	15:38
Whitor	Where is the torrent for 9.04 ?	15:38
Pici	!torrents > Whitor	15:38
ubottu	Whitor, please see my private message	15:38
frostburn	racecar56, yeah mine makes the screen flicker, and it eventually corrupted the vid memory, there's artifacts in the BIOS =\|	15:38
copland-leopard	I finally found a media player that works	15:38
racecar56	on homepage	15:38
mint3	n8tuser, i did an upgrade, from intrepid, about a month ago.	15:38
thalias09	Thank you for your hard work to give us Ubuntu Jaunty.	15:38
racecar56	frostburn, k	15:39
Ghoti\|AFK	Happy release day everyone! :)	15:39
Jimmymaniac	simmerz: personally i had zero problems when jumping from hardy to intrepid, so i plan on doing the same for jaunty, as soon as the dust cloud from the mobs on the repos clears out :P	15:39
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thurston	Hello, I am using an acer TravelMate 6292 laptop. Should I install the Desktop Edition of Jaunty or the Netbook Remix?	15:39
mint3	Ghoti, to you too mate.	15:39
copland-leopard	Boxee Failed, Mplayer Fail, VLC Epic fail , Xine FTW	15:39
n8tuser	mint3 really? there was not a upgrade path to it about a mont ago.. so not sure what you did	15:39
racecar56	frostburn, mine acts weird as in it dosent seem to work with 3D	15:39
rjune	What apt-get command will simply list all packages that are available for update? I've tried apt-get update -u, but that still blocks on do it or not	15:39
noren	Ghoti: nothing released as of yet	15:39
mint3	n8tuser, i upgraded to the alpha version.	15:39
djiezes	!amarok	15:40
ubottu	Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.8 (1.4.3 for Dapper LTS). Packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok	15:40
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racecar56	frostburn, sometimes while returning from standby it gets a gray screen	15:40
racecar56	frostburn, but it goes away	15:40
Pici	!upgrade \| rjune Please use the steps outlined here to upgrade	15:40
ubottu	rjune Please use the steps outlined here to upgrade: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	15:40
rapha	hmmm gotta try and see if hibernation will finally work on the laptop with 9.04	15:40
benste	so able to access launchpad?	15:40
frostburn	racecar56, yeah, i'm not buying HP ever again, or a laptop that requires a heavy vid card, netbooks all the way	15:40
Ghoti	noren: Really? I thought today was the day! It's even up on ubuntu.com. I'm confused now.	15:40
benste	after updates to stable Nvida drivers crashed !!	15:41
Pici	benste: You're not the first person to report problems.	15:41
screamsayonara	does anyone know how to make 4th gen 8gb ipods to work in intrepid	15:41
Discipulus	I'm having a problem with Sound-Juicer	15:41
benste	Pici thx	15:41
Rockj	anyone else upgrading to jaunty atm? I fired up the default package manager in tray and used the dist-upgrade button. However, it's still running on fetching file 1514 of 1514	15:41
rjune	Pici, Not useful, I don't want to upgrade, I want to list the packages available for upgrade and I'm missing the proper option	15:41
rapha	Ghoti: 9.04 is out	15:41
Discipulus	it is ripping at an incredibly low rate	15:41
Rockj	and there is really no load on my computer	15:41
Matr\|X	im haveing probelm with sql server 5	15:41
Rockj	should I press cancel and retry? o_O	15:41
benste	Pici don you know something caused nvidia kernel module to crash from RC to stable?	15:41
racecar56	frostburn, i automatically got this, for free, its because they 'stole' my old laptop which died due to the keyboard being broken	15:41
stone1343_	hey, when's the alpha for karmic gonna be available? (relax, I'm just kidding)	15:41
noren	Ghoti: i checed an hour agp, mau be it out	15:41
Pici	rjune: You mean from packages that are available to upgrade from intrepid to Jaunty?	15:42
racecar56	frostburn, they refused to fix it, so God knows where it is now	15:42
frostburn	racecar56, also make sure to close the lid in the center, don't close it on one side, the hinges will break... it's in laptop heaven	15:42
racecar56	my 3D dosen't work, i have the nvidia-180 driver but it isn't working	15:42
racecar56	frostburn, speaking of break, on the top right edge of the screen is broken :o	15:42
noren	racecar56: get nvidia-settings also	15:42
aspoor_	can we fix it so I do not have to hit F11 when returning to my non-dynamic web browser?	15:42
racecar56	noren, nvidia-settings is already the newest version.	15:43
acr0nym	hello, quick question, I installed some new kernels (.deb) and now I want to remove them. I can't see them in synaptic package manager though	15:43
rjune	Pici, No. I mean I have 8.04 installed, I have 7 packages available for update, I want to just list them out.	15:43
Flannel	rjune: sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade	15:43
Flannel	rjune: That'll simulate an upgrade, during which they'll be listed.	15:43
Ghoti	Flannel: wouldn't it be just upgrade; not dist-upgrade if he just wants the latest packages for his release?	15:44
benste	Did someone get Nvidia 180 driver working?	15:44
pepperjack	acr0nym: do they show up in a dpkg -l? you can use dpkg to remove them	15:44
unr3a1	erUSUL, i just want to make sure before I go forward with the upgrade. if I upgrade from the alternative cd, will it reset any of my settings or remove any files or folders I have created?	15:44
racecar56	no	15:44
racecar56	not me	15:44
Rockj	rjune: if you want to dist-upgrade to latest release, you need to make sure synaptic picks up normal releases	15:44
Rockj	default it is configured to only warn you about LTS releases	15:44
rjune	Rockj, I don't want to do that.	15:44
Rockj	oh, ok	15:44
racecar56	does 9.04 hate nvidia gefore go 7600?	15:44
racecar56	o.o	15:44
rjune	I want to list what packages are availalbe to update in the current distribution	15:45
Flannel	Ghoti: upgrade may not catch all of them, dist-upgrade will.	15:45
benste	acecar56 mee too :-)	15:45
Flannel	rjune: Yes, the previous command will do that.	15:45
rapha	anybody running 9.04 on a ThinkPad T61 yet?	15:45
Ghoti	benste: I have the 180 drivers working, though Firefox needs to be toggled in and out of kioks mode on occasion	15:45
Ghoti	Flannel: ah; good to know. thanks.	15:45
racecar56	gosh i wish i would have stayed with intrepid :'(	15:45
acr0nym	pepperjack, yep they do :) thanks, I still have much to learn	15:45
Pici	rjune: Normally just doing apt-get upgrade/dist-upgrade will list them before it prompts you to continue	15:45
unr3a1	does anyone else know?	15:45
rjune	Flannel, yes, I caught that, thank you for listening to what I said and not what you wanted to hear	15:45
racecar56	should i reinstall?	15:45
benste	eacecar56, ghoti 7600go worked during alpha beta and RC but crashed with stable updates ;-)	15:45
crossedf8	woot 9.04	15:45
rjune	Pici, is for script, I just want to list without blocking.	15:45
unr3a1	if I choose to upgrade rather than clean install, will the install effect any files or folders that I have created?	15:45
ellar	whats the preferred metalink client for ubuntu? any program with gui?	15:46
unr3a1	or apps that I have installed?	15:46
racecar56	benste, i do have rc....	15:46
Pici	rjune: Ah. Okay, then Flannel's command will be good.	15:46
benste	racecar, didn't you update today?	15:46
Jeruvy	racecar56: why not get release? quit playing with beta.	15:46
racecar56	not beta... rc	15:46
Rockj	interessting, the dist-upgrade util bugs here.	15:46
Rockj	it's stuck in some weird loop	15:46
pepperjack	rjune: might use the -s simulate/dryrun switch for apt-get and direct it to a file :)	15:46
Rockj	atleast after what strace can tell me	15:46
racecar56	a distribution is software, all i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	15:46
maxagaz	still no torrent to download jaunty ?	15:46
djuggler	I've added a share in /etc/samba/smb.conf with path=/var/www guest ok=yes read only=no create mask=0777 Conceptually I should be able to use winscp on my xp box to download files to the www.	15:47
rjune	/me facepalms	15:47
unr3a1	does anyone know?	15:47
rapha	oh great ... desktop effects disabled by default for my laptop :-/	15:47
racecar56	Jeruvy, when i upgraded i upgraded to rc but dosen't it update you to stable when you dist-upgrade?	15:47
ellar	maxagaz, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/	15:47
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maxagaz	!torrent	15:47
ubottu	Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P	15:47
Ghoti	djuggler: if you're using winSCP, why use SMB? Why not just use SCP?	15:47
djuggler	regardless of if I use the xp box to grab files from the outside world or if I use gFTP on the ubuntu box itself, any directory created through ftp gets 0755	15:47
Aperculum	is there a bittorrent mirror for 9.04?	15:47
yarri	Hej, I am new to IRC, can you tell me how to list channels on this server and suggest a good guide to IRC	15:47
Pici	!torrents > Aperculum	15:48
ubottu	Aperculum, please see my private message	15:48
ellar	Aperculum, scroll down	15:48
jurism	Where can I get the name of my primary network interface? I am on Ubuntu 8.04 on a virtual server (Virtuozzo)	15:48
Asad	Another ubuntu mirror ... http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/	15:48
frostburn	jurism, ifconfig	15:48
yarri	and what strings like !p2p are doing?	15:48
Jeruvy	racecar56: then what "exactly" are you using. Please take the time to provide some meaningful info, and we'll be more than willing to help you.	15:48
Ghoti	jurism: on Virtuosse servers, it's usually venet0:0	15:48
ilovebrownies	I'm planning on doing a clean install of Jaunty, and I want to try ext4. Should I use ext4 on all my partitions?	15:48
unr3a1	I guess I will find out on my own....	15:48
racecar56	Jeruvy, i upgraded from intrepid to rc, and i dist-upgraded today	15:48
nassrat	Hey anybody here worked on ssh-agent and Gnome Ubuntu and knows why it works like ssh-add </dev/null by default? I would like that in kubuntu	15:49
_Jill_	eh... flash player doesn't work on youtube	15:49
sebsebseb	ilovebrownies: sure why not	15:49
benste	Jeruvy I'm having the same problem with nvidia propriative driver like racecar56	15:49
Jeruvy	racecar56: that isn't a problem..is it?	15:49
simNIX	djuggler, for samba having guest greate with rwx sound a risk ...	15:49
djuggler	so subsequent files to the new directory fail to get written. How do I get the newly created directory from ftp to default to 0777?	15:49
sebsebseb	ilovebrownies: ,but if you got important data, I would recommend backing it up some where else to, because there are a few issues with Ext4 still	15:49
racecar56	Jeruvy, no	15:49
racecar56	Jeruvy, 3D dosen't work	15:49
Aperculum	excellent, thanks	15:49
djuggler	simNIX: yes if this server were accessible to the world.	15:49
doggyslobber	Does anyone have a quick and dirty way to rename the images in a directory to FILENAME001 ... 002 etc?	15:49
djuggler	It's accessible only to me and that was a troubleshooting move.	15:49
racecar56	Jeruvy, and last night i was fighting to get my card working	15:49
Jeruvy	racecar56: again, some meaningful info. I have 3D on 4 machines (and counting) working great.	15:49
racecar56	Jeruvy, but it's either horrible display or no 3D	15:50
jurism	Ghoti: thank You! and thanks to frostburn :)	15:50
racecar56	Jeruvy, and it claims no screens were found	15:50
ilovebrownies	sebsebseb: Thanks! I think I'll wait a while longer then.	15:50
sriramoman	what does ubuntu alternate cd mean?	15:50
Jeruvy	racecar56: so do you boot to the desktop or shell?	15:50
sebsebseb	ilovebrownies: well 9.04 is maybe a little pointless with Ext3	15:50
ruhaan_	sriramoman: its a text nly cd	15:51
racecar56	Jeruvy, desktop	15:51
ruhaan_	no gui	15:51
Discipulus	Sound-juicer is having problems extracting CDs. My CD drive is capable of ripping at 15x, and indeed has done so multiple times, but today it's ripping at 2.5x and it is freezing about halfway through, the application isn't freezing, but the rip is halting progress about halfway through	15:51
racecar56	Jeruvy, my /home is on a seprate partition so if i should reinstall intrepid on top it's all ok	15:51
pepperjack	sriramoman: its the classic install cd no live distro text install.	15:51
Aperculum	is there a reason for not having a torrent for netbook remix?	15:51
n2diy	1700 users!	15:51
the7thmagus	hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%	15:51
sebsebseb	n2diy: nearly 1696	15:51
crankharder	how can I open a PDF for editing?	15:51
Jeruvy	racecar56: reinstalling is a pointless exercise unless you've corrupted files. Did you corrupt your install?	15:51
Asad	If anybody in europe needs a fast desktop 32-bit iso, use this mirror here: http://94.23.5.37/ubuntu/ (by www.linuxprimetime.com ... )	15:52
djuggler	so eliminating samba, and xp... if I use an ftp client on the ubuntu box itself (in this case I'm using gFTP) and I pull down a directory from some external server to /var/www/ the directories get created with 0755 permissions and the ftp program reports that it doesn't have rights to put files in that newly created directory.	15:52
racecar56	Jeruvy, i don't know	15:52
Ghoti	djuggler: man umask	15:52
dethstar	should've known better than to update on the "release day"... it's slow as molasses	15:52
the7thmagus	hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%	15:52
sriramoman	ruhaan_, pepperjack the desktop version image cd's for jaunty in releases.ubuntu.com seems to be dated 20-Apr-2009 15:29. is it the final cd or release candidate?	15:52
wrice_	Aperculum: Afaik, netbook remix for Jaunty hasn't yet been released.	15:52
racecar56	Jeruvy, if i install the drive from the nvidia site xorg fusses about no screens	15:52
racecar56	Jeruvy, 180.51	15:52
ruhaan_	sriramoman: the RC	15:53
mint3	can anyone help me get an rss reader for jaunty ?	15:53
racecar56	Jeruvy, back on 9.04a3 it worked like magic	15:53
Aperculum	wrice_: it is not? o.O	15:53
racecar56	mint3, liferea, getdeb.net	15:53
mint3	like the one that ticks at the top of your desktop etc.	15:53
Aperculum	I see	15:53
djuggler	Ghoti: perfect. thanks	15:53
sriramoman	then could someone point me to the torrent for 9.04 final	15:53
Aperculum	wrice_: I'll wait for it then	15:53
Ghoti	djuggler: my pleasure	15:53
sebsebseb	dethstar: heh heh yeah, I got a sort of 9.04 anyway install here (as in 8.10 to alpha6 with issues that recomained, to beta, to rc), and then I clean install on weekend probably	15:53
simNIX	djuggler, if I am someuser and ftp files to somewhere the users someuser can read and write even with 755 on folders ... gain is no onne else ...	15:53
kliklik	So, after installing Jaunty and having fglrx totaly fail, I'm dumping ati for nvidia. Anyone using gtx295 on amd64?	15:53
mint3	i like football so i like to know whats happening. Usually on my previous o.s i could have it tick at the top of my screen	15:54
sebsebseb	dethstar: release day will be packed	15:54
the7thmagus	hey, when I run GNOME, my CPU Usage according to System Monitor/top/htop is 100%. but the sum of CPU time of all running processes is only like 30%	15:54
pepperjack	kliklik: funny ive been dumping nvidia for ati.. id give it some time	15:54
dethstar	sebsebseb, yeah... I've got 8 hours remaining	15:54
weather15	3 here	15:54
sebsebseb	dethstar: 8 hours for the ISO heh	15:54
sebsebseb	dethstar: the ISO yeah?	15:54
dethstar	sebsebseb, no.. for the upgrade	15:55
weather15	yup	15:55
Jeruvy	racecar56: from desktop go system, ->admin -> system log, then view the Xorg.0.log, look for any errors (EE) pastebin the results	15:55
Aperculum	sriramoma http://releases.ubuntu.com/	15:55
racecar56	Jeruvy, kk	15:55
Raylz	the7thmagus: must be the new infinity loop support	15:55
chazco	Hi... how can I install LAMP + phpmyadmin on 9.04 desktop edition?	15:55
sebsebseb	dethstar: oh an upgrade, that means you have Ext3. unless you do something to it for partial Ext4 suppourt	15:55
dethstar	sebsebseb, should've tried that apt-p2p	15:55
weather15	Using osu open source lab	15:55
weather15	to download	15:55
weather15	9.04	15:55
space_cadet	will intrepid auto upgrade to jaunty	15:55
space_cadet	?	15:55
sebsebseb	space_cadet: no	15:55
Raylz	space_cadet: no	15:55
racecar56	space_cadet, no, because thats what windows does	15:56
space_cadet	update-manager -d?	15:56
Pici	!upgrade \| space_cadet	15:56
ubottu	space_cadet: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	15:56
dethstar	sebsebseb, yeah... I'm sure this will be a re-install at some point.. really just wanted to play with it at work today	15:56
mogul218_	sup folks now that it has been fixed, i have a gripe i need help with. Nothing serious but the font on my log in screen is very tiny. When I installed 9.04 on my laptop I could see the font just fine but on my PC i can't even see what I'm typing. Is there an easy fix to this that i'm missing?	15:56
Raylz	space_cadet: sudo do-release-upgrade	15:56
tomek	hello all	15:56
weather15	is it better to download the upgrade for 9.04 or do a fresh install?	15:56
Raylz	or something like that	15:56
JackWat\|Lap	space_cadet: you have to go to sfotware sources and tell it to update for normal builds	15:56
racecar56	Jeruvy, pastebinit	15:56
Raylz	weather15: defintely	15:56
sebsebseb	dethstar: well if you had the rc, you would of had something that was very similar to 9.04 final	15:56
tanveer	can i install world of warcraft on linux/	15:56
JackWat\|Lap	can you upgrade from 9.04 beta to release?	15:56
sebsebseb	tanveer: yes	15:57
JackWat\|Lap	tanveer: yes	15:57
sebsebseb	tanveer: in Wine	15:57
Pici	!final \| JackWat\|Lap	15:57
ubottu	JackWat\|Lap: If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.	15:57
new	Do somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?	15:57
racecar56	JackWat\|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade\	15:57
racecar56	JackWat\|Lap, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	15:57
Raylz	JackWat\|Lap: you automatically get the release	15:57
DJones	!final \| JackWat\|Lap	15:57
tomek	listen guys, I have a question : my speakers ain't working (despite the fact that they are perfecly well on windows)	15:57
shiznebit	what a packed house	15:57
dethstar	sebsebseb, sure.. I bet I probably would've	15:57
tomek	what do I do?	15:57
JackWat\|Lap	Raylz: lets say i dont have internet access. how do i upgrade from beta to release?	15:57
new	Do somebody know the torrents of the new stable jaunty release?	15:57
Ghoti	!offline \| JackWat\|Lap	15:57
ubottu	JackWat\|Lap: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD	15:57
pronoy	i have a serious issue with usplash image...can anyone help me with that ??	15:57
hale3rd	hi	15:58
porter1	It's too bad anjuta wasn't fixed	15:58
Pici	JackWat\|Lap: Download the alternate CD elsewhere and use it as a repository to upgrade your computer.	15:58
Jeruvy	new: the main download page isn't properly updated, but pick a mirror by hand, and you should find the .torrents	15:58
racecar56	Jeruvy, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e	15:58
sriramoman	could someone point me to the torrent link for ubuntu 9.04?	15:58
space_cadet	synaptic > repos > updates ?	15:58
hale3rd	i was running the Beta, does ubuntu automatically upgrade to the final version?	15:58
new	tzhank you	15:58
Pici	!torrents > sriramoman	15:58
ubottu	sriramoman, please see my private message	15:58
JackWat\|Lap	!APTonCD	15:58
Raylz	Pici: good idea	15:58
ubottu	APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline	15:58
Pici	!final > hale3rd	15:58
ubottu	hale3rd, please see my private message	15:58
Tetsuoo	where is the alternative installer version gone???	15:58
djiezes	Anyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.	15:59
ChopMonkey	!offline	15:59
racecar56	Jeruvy, "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" aha	15:59
ubottu	If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://apt.alturl.com/ - See also !APTonCD	15:59
darkham	network manager works now, or not?	15:59
racecar56	Jeruvy, found one	15:59
weather15	Default is Gnome	15:59
mogul218_	the font on my PC's 9.04 login screen is super tiny and unreadable. How can I fix it?	15:59
weather15	Alternate is Text Based	15:59
hale3rd	ubottu: thanks!	15:59
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	15:59
SwedeMike	you can download torrents from here for instance: http://ftp.df.lth.se/ubuntu-iso/9.04/	15:59
dronix	my upgrade is slow :(	15:59
JackWat\|Lap	!offline > me	15:59
ubottu	JackWat\|Lap, please see my private message	15:59
JackWat\|Lap	!aptoncd > me	15:59
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weather15	Servers are packed for download of 9.04	16:00
racecar56	!aptoncd > me	16:00
ubottu	racecar56, please see my private message	16:00
dronix	yeah I bet	16:00
space_cadet	0% working	16:00
space_cadet	stuck	16:00
weather15	I'm sure ever the main site was slow fora while	16:00
http	hello	16:00
http	at all	16:00
dethstar	weather15, I bet the servers are damn near smoking right about now	16:00
Tetsuoo	9.04 is not available as alternate installer???	16:00
racecar56	space_cadet, press ctrl+c and do what your trying to do again	16:00
http	I suggest to wait for 9.04	16:01
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space_cadet	it just got stuck for a min	16:01
dronix	hopefully they'll deal with the heavy traffic next release	16:01
JackWat\|Lap	Ghoti: i dont have GUI	16:01
iceroot	dronix: bittorrent deals with that	16:01
racecar56	._. i hope ill get my card fixed	16:01
weather15	3 Hours 43 Minutes for iso download on OSU Open Source Lab	16:01
space_cadet	racecar56, will this update my repos list entries from intrepid to jaunty?	16:01
racecar56	space_cadet, you have to do it	16:01
space_cadet	ok	16:01
http	so I want to setup my jabber account on pidgin, how can I do it? I see error connection when I try	16:01
Tetsuoo	just download it from rapidshare = win	16:01
SwedeMike	there are plenty of fast mirrors still working	16:01
dronix	iceroot, I don't mean distribution, but the upgrade servers	16:01
space_cadet	if they exist ...	16:01
new	@dronix: Use torrents to download the cd and then use the cd as a repository	16:01
weather15	About 30 KB/sec	16:01
J-_	!torrents	16:02
iceroot	dronix: ah ok	16:02
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	16:02
racecar56	(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0) ummmmmm.....	16:02
iceroot	dronix: this will be funny at next lts release	16:02
racecar56	lol	16:02
Tetsuoo	wave alternate installer 9.04 anyone?	16:02
http	jabber who help me?	16:02
racecar56	Tetsuoo, homepage	16:02
slusk	Tetsuoo: running it right now	16:02
Tetsuoo	not there	16:02
iceroot	!ask \| http	16:02
ubottu	http: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	16:02
racecar56		16:03
racecar56		16:03
mogul218_	!final	16:03
ubottu	If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Jaunty. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.	16:03
RabidLockerGnome	hey guys, anyone know of a good fast torrent for 9.04 desktop ?	16:03
weather15	Nope	16:03
racecar56	(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)	16:03
RabidLockerGnome	i can't find a decent download anywhere :(	16:03
racecar56	what do i do to fix xorg	16:03
weather15	I think people keep switching until they find fast download server	16:03
ruhaan_	RabidLockerGnome: use torrents	16:03
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, try releases.ubuntu.com	16:04
ruhaan_	the servers are gettin hammered	16:04
Rockj	is there a torrent up and running yet?	16:04
new	USE Torrents	16:04
sebsebseb	ruhaan_: of course it's release day	16:04
racecar56	and so is my laptop	16:04
RabidLockerGnome	ruhaan_: thats what i just asked for lol	16:04
new	http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	16:04
racecar56	my laptop is probably gonna break into a thousand peices	16:04
weather15	Torrents are a good idea today but after a couple of days your better off to use ftp or http	16:04
new	@Rockj: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/	16:04
new	Use the torrents	16:04
archman	Jaunty released? :D	16:05
RabidLockerGnome	the torrent i have looks like 6 hours to download :=\	16:05
sebsebseb	weather15: yeah downloading on the weekend should be :)	16:05
JPSman	ok, HEALP, with using fdisk to format my linux partition	16:05
tiger	i want to know an option to use my installed program in ubuntu 8.4 on ubuntu 9.4	16:05
CydeWeys	All right! We need some more seeders and leechers on here: http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4865683/Ubuntu_9.04_Jaunty_Jackalope_64-bit_%28x86-64_AMD64%29_Desktop_RELEA	16:05
sebsebseb	JPSman: uhmm?	16:05
sriramoman	is there any opensuse 11.1 user here who'd recommend a switch to ubuntu 9.04?	16:05
WatchBot	CydeWeys: Please keep your links on topic and work safe.	16:05
racecar56	does anyone know how to fix "(EE) Failed to load module "freetype" (module does not exist, 0)" xorg error? this is from my xorg log http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e	16:05
J-_	Perhaps an op should change the /topic	16:05
ellar	RabidLockerGnome, patience	16:05
screamsayonara	fuck ipods suck	16:05
sebsebseb	tiger: what?	16:05
ruhaan_	CydeWeys: all ready on it from my server :)	16:05
Rockj	fired up torrent here now new :)	16:05
racecar56		16:05
ellar	RabidLockerGnome, will get better if more have finished downloading and seed	16:05
Nikola	@ sriramomani would	16:05
edugonch	hello, does somone knows about a good keyloger for linux?	16:05
sebsebseb	!language \| screamsayonara	16:05
ubottu	screamsayonara: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	16:05
djiezes	Anyone know the best (official?) way to install Amarok 1.4 on Ubuntu 9.04? It's not in the default repositories anymore.	16:05
Nikola	I would	16:06
italomaia	sriramoman, i know some people that tried opensuse and hated it. Liked ubuntu better	16:06
JPSman	sebsebseb: im in livecdsession right now, and I want to use fdisk to format just my 30gig linux partition (7.10) but not my XP partition	16:06
weather15	I have I like ubuntu better	16:06
CydeWeys	ruhaan_: Sweet, thanks.	16:06
Nikola	openSUSE will be good in the next release, but now, stick with ubuntu	16:06
ruhaan_	JPSman: use the partition tool	16:06
ikonia	CydeWeys: please don't post the piratebay links in here	16:06
jelly-bean	i disabled vino and am running tightvncserver instead because it is better compression and faster. however when i connect to the server on :1 (5901) i see a desktop similar to the one when i login regularly from home. if i change anything about my desktop while logged in with vnc, it affects my normal desktop. (e.g. disabling panels, removing items from the panels, closing xwin apps, etc.). how can i have a separate desktop for vnc? my home desktop is tw	16:06
gpled	when should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?	16:06
JPSman	ruhaan_ ?	16:06
CydeWeys	ikonia: It's a link to Ubuntu. It's not illlegal.	16:06
LjL	!language \| screamsayonara	16:06
ubottu	screamsayonara: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	16:06
tiger	i don't want to reinstall my programs in ubuntu 9.4	16:06
RabidLockerGnome	racecar56: how about pasting your xorg.conf into pastebin?	16:06
ruhaan_	JPSman: ubuntu comes with a gui partition tool	16:06
ruhaan_	use that	16:06
ruhaan_	to format	16:06
cutout	Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???	16:06
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, i did http://racecar56.pastebin.com/fea3f67e	16:06
weather15	over all of all the Distro's I have tried ubuntu seems to be the best	16:07
sriramoman	italomaia, basically i felt compiz etc highly unstable in opensuse whereas it was very smooth in ubuntu 8.04 so i was thinking whether to download it again and download all missed packages too again.	16:07
ikonia	CydeWeys: the site is in a legal situation, please don't post it	16:07
sebsebseb	edugonch: keyloggers can be useful, but they are still classed as malware by a lot of people, and Linux distros hardly has any malware	16:07
sriramoman	for ubuntu	16:07
JPSman	ruhaan_ yeah but I didnt see an option to format one partition vs another	16:07
Rockj	http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent	16:07
Rockj	torrent link atleast	16:07
Rockj	:)	16:07
RabidLockerGnome	racecar56: no thats your log file	16:07
tiger	cutout: i have same problem	16:07
CydeWeys	ikonia: I'm not following your logic. How would the Pirate Bay being in a legal situation make it questionable to even post a link to it in here?	16:07
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, oh, sorry im nuts	16:07
ruhaan_	JPSman: are u paritions listed in that tool?	16:07
RabidLockerGnome	i'm looking for /etc/X11/xorg.conf lol	16:07
cutout	tiger: what to do???	16:07
CydeWeys	This isn't Communist Russia.	16:07
edugonch	no hay nadie en cracker ¬¬	16:07
tiger	cutout: i wish i could know	16:08
italomaia	sriramoman, well, compiz run very well in my ubuntu too. When i used opensuse, i hated it much before trying compiz	16:08
ikonia	CydeWeys: suggesting people to use a site thats in a dubious legal position at the moment - does not seem appropriate at this time	16:08
LjL	!es	16:08
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	16:08
JPSman	ruhaan_ yes, but it doesnt show an option to erase my old 30gig7.10 partition	16:08
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f3d0ebd10	16:08
RabidLockerGnome	I'm totally gonna pirate ubuntu yay! hahaha	16:08
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, lol	16:08
ruhaan_	JPSman: right click ur partition	16:08
ruhaan_	the ubuntu one	16:08
ruhaan_	there shud be an option for formar	16:08
ruhaan_	*format	16:08
RabidLockerGnome	racecar56: Load "freetype" remove that maybe? lol	16:08
JPSman	hrm, ok	16:08
CydeWeys	ikonia: There's absolutely nothing wrong with using The Pirate Bay to download material that is legal to download. It's no different at all than getting it from the Ubuntu.com torrent servers.	16:08
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, ok removed	16:09
ruhaan_	CydeWeys: i wud agree	16:09
LjL	CydeWeys: right, so give links to the ubuntu servers (see the topic, too)	16:09
http	jabber help me	16:09
ikonia	CydeWeys: I'd rather not see it at the moment please while it's in such a dubious state	16:09
http	jabber help me	16:09
ikonia	http: if you ask a question the channel will try	16:09
CydeWeys	LjL: Oh, the Ubuntu torrent servers are good. But you reach more people through the Pirate Bay.	16:09
tiger	Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???	16:10
http	I can't connect to my profile with pidgin	16:10
CydeWeys	This is about GNU/Linux evangelism :-D	16:10
http	I don't whay	16:10
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, k, anything else?	16:10
AlexFera	//	16:10
JPSman	ruhaan_ - no right click option available	16:10
LjL	CydeWeys: and this channel is not, it's about ubuntu support - so try #ubuntu-release-party if you just have to post links to stuff	16:10
RabidLockerGnome	racecar56: nope. not sure if u have to reboot tho	16:10
CydeWeys	tiger: Well, if you have another computer on the same network, backing up is pretty simple.	16:10
tanveer	after i installed ubuntu , xP was getting a winsock catalog provider error and i cant connect to the internet	16:10
racecar56	RabidLockerGnome, ill restart x	16:10
http	I think that missing same opton	16:10
http	o	16:10
http	o	16:10
http	o	16:10
FloodBot2	http: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	16:10
tiger	cydeweys: what about my programs	16:11
wooj	Is it normal for my computer to not actually reboot (POST, etc) when I select restart in Ubuntu? Ubuntu seems to restart, but...	16:11
JPSman	is it possible to use fidsk in the live session user?	16:11
LjL	wooj: yes, it's a feature	16:11
tanveer	and i have ubuntu 8.10 and when i click on update, 9.04 dosent come up	16:11
ikonia	JPSman: sure is	16:11
wooj	LjL, okay ty. I was paranoid :)	16:11
ikonia	!upgrade > tanveer	16:11
ubottu	tanveer, please see my private message	16:11
http	help me	16:11
mint3	anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?	16:11
moxfalder	9.04 in the way !	16:11
http	with jabber	16:11
sebsebseb	!ask \| http	16:11
ubottu	http: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	16:11
mint3	i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .	16:12
gpled	when should we see the option to upgrade to 9.04?	16:12
nativeangels	has anyone else had a problem with wine,where the mouse pointer dosnt work with the wine window ?	16:12
http	sebsebseb how configure to use jabber?	16:12
sebsebseb	http: with Jabber in which program?	16:12
http	jabber in pidgin	16:12
sebsebseb	http: jabber or gmail?	16:12
sebsebseb	http: jabber or googletalk?	16:12
http	flavetius@jabber.org	16:12
wooj	Also, I had to compile a custom kernel, is there a way to get update manager to quit trying to update it? :)	16:12
sebsebseb	http: I think you just add it into pidgin normalley, and get some server details and such from the jabber site or whatever	16:13
sebsebseb	http: you can also try #pidgin	16:13
moxfalder	can i remove firefox installed with desktop edition ?	16:13
LjL	http: congratulation, you just posted an address to a channel that's publicly logged on the web...	16:13
mint3	anyone ?	16:13
mint3	moxfalder, use synaptics	16:13
sebsebseb	LjL: heh heh yeah, the spammers might pick up his email address	16:13
CydeWeys	tiger: Export the list of all programs you have installed and then reinstall them on your new machine.	16:13
http	no problem	16:13
sequethin	do I have to do anything special to upgrade my jaunty RC to plain-old-jaunty?	16:13
tanveer	ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso, is the 1 im looking for	16:13
http	I wait spammer	16:13
nativeangels	ive asked in winehq but not got anywhere	16:13
Ben90	why does my system always black out and go back to the login screen?	16:13
CydeWeys	tiger: And when backing up, make sure to get everything relevant, including /etc	16:13
http	it's my work wto want spammer	16:14
http	bye bye	16:14
mint3	sequethin, just make sure you are fully updated ( via update manager)	16:14
moxfalder	why ubuntu is so COOL ?	16:14
sequethin	mint3: but it's not going to be considered a distribution upgrade right mint3 ?	16:14
sebsebseb	moxfalder: ,because it's not Windows?	16:14
new	@moxfalder: Because it is LINUX!	16:14
Ben90	it only happens in low latency mode.	16:14
mint3	sequethin, do you have anything else left to be updated in your update manager?	16:14
gpled	sebsebseb: whats windows?	16:15
moxfalder	sebsebseb: true, true	16:15
tanveer	if i upgrade would i lose my files and the program i installed?	16:15
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sequethin	mint3: nope it was just firefox this morning, that's it :)	16:15
v4vijayakumar	upgrade is not going through.. any way to do through p2p-ly ??	16:15
weather151	I'm thinking it might be best if you'd download a pre-release version the day before the release and just update it	16:15
sebsebseb	tanveer: no	16:15
_3rt41_	ehi can someone tell me why i can't install 9.04 via wubi?	16:15
_3rt41_	i got a strange error	16:15
sebsebseb	tanveer: might have some issues with upgrading now though, since download servers are packed	16:15
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mint3	sequethin, then my dear, you are done. Type lsb_release -a	16:15
mint3	see what it says, sequethin .	16:15
sequethin	mint3: i did that, it says 9.04 i just wasn't sure if it would say RC or not	16:15
sebsebseb	tanveer: also if you want the new optional Ext4 file system, you got to clean install really, and set up those partitions yourself	16:15
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moxfalder	aha...i haved problem with flash plugin for firefox, can anybody tell my how do this right ?	16:16
mint3	sequethin, you are fine then. hit back and enjoy jaunty power !	16:16
sequethin	mint3: meanwhile i'm updating my ubuntu server at home :) i love that it even opened an additional ssh server on port 9004 just in case something goes wrong	16:17
TheData	so my notebook is going to run Jaunty (like my big tower computer already does)	16:17
gpled	moxfalder: think you just go to the flash site, and it asks you if you want to install	16:17
tymann	fffjjiuh	16:17
mint3	sequethin, very intelligent yes.	16:17
Ben90	does anyone here know why my system would just black out and restart at the login screen?	16:17
racecar56	i might go back to intrepid...	16:17
weather15	Flash plugin is in package manager	16:17
mint3	anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?	16:17
cutout	Hi, am very exited to install jaunty but the problem that I have to much installed and configured apps/servers on my ubuntu 8.10, and I would rather to make a fresh install to use ext4 :D is there any way to backup/restore all installed stuff and data???	16:17
wrice_	_3rt41_: Could you pastebin the error message?	16:17
Cameron	!torrents	16:17
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	16:17
moxfalder	gpled: download .deb, install and nothing !	16:17
mint3	i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .	16:17
pepperjack	moxfalder: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?	16:17
sebsebseb	Ben90: old graphics card?	16:17
_3rt41_	WHY WUBI DOES NOT WORK?	16:17
racecar56	meh might as well try debian	16:17
JPSman	Under fdisk, I have an Extended partition (sda3 in my case) ID 5 that I can't load. is this my live session?	16:17
jacksparrow	hey guys, when was jaunty released?	16:17
sebsebseb	Ben90: which version of Ubuntu?	16:17
gpled	moxfalder: iv never had to go out and get any thing	16:17
racecar56	!caps _3rt41_	16:17
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about caps _3rt41_	16:17
mint3	jacksparrow, today, few hours ago.	16:18
racecar56	!caps \| _3rt41_	16:18
ubottu	_3rt41_: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	16:18
moxfalder	pepperjack: tryied, not help !	16:18
Ben90	sebsebseb, it only happens when i'm in low latency mode	16:18
_3rt41_	yeah but you guys don't answer at all	16:18
Jimmymaniac	Now that i'm about to get jaunty, again i wonder: Is 64 bits ok already for the desktop? there used to be problems for wine, flash and other things, dunno now. Experiences with this?	16:18
Ben90	sebsebseb, i'm running 9.04	16:18
Anquietas7	hello, I have a small problem, can anyone help me please ?	16:18
stimpie	does someone know how to add a sip account to empathy?	16:18
racecar56	_3rt41_, anyway, tell me more, i dont do windows though...	16:18
sebsebseb	Jimmymaniac: first of all how much RAM do you have?	16:18
_3rt41_	why i get an error while installing with 9.04 with wubi	16:18
_3rt41_	?	16:18
_3rt41_	same as reported on the forums	16:18
racecar56	_3rt41_, what error	16:18
dt3k	!torrents	16:18
ubottu	Jaunty can be torrented from http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your archieecture. Torrents for other Ubuntu flavours can be found at: http://it.releases.ubuntu.com/ (CD) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases (DVD).	16:18
mint3	what error do you get ?	16:18
_3rt41_	by another guy	16:18
_3rt41_	wait i will get the post	16:18
stimpie	Anquietas7, depends on the problem	16:19
Mr_Kaizer	_3rt41_: Check the release notes, I belive there was something about it there	16:19
mint3	anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .	16:19
mint3	ticker*	16:19
_3rt41_	uhm	16:19
noqq	!update	16:19
ubottu	For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	16:19
racecar56	any way i can fix my gfx card on my laptop?	16:19
pepperjack	moxfalder: you basically drop the plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/. i often just download firefox from the mozilla website extract it to my home folder as firefox/ and then just drop the plugin in firefox/plugins	16:19
Ben90	sebsebseb, it only happens whem i'm copying diles or doing something important.	16:20
knittl	hi! isn't notify-osd supposed to be transparent? or do i need to have compiz running for this?	16:20
v4vijayakumar	ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso is only 593 MB ?! :-/	16:20
_3rt41_	here it is	16:20
_3rt41_	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:20
_3rt41_	same error	16:20
albech	i have kept my ubuntu updated daily since 9.04 beta, does that mean i already have 9.04 final?	16:20
happosade	Can I see somewhere, how much bandwidth ubuntu relases are taking world wide in torrent-network?	16:20
Ben90	how do i find out what error i'm getting?	16:20
SwedeMike	albech: yes.	16:20
defrysk	albech, yes	16:20
albech	ty	16:20
Anquietas7	my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help	16:20
_3rt41_	here's the error i get -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:21
Ben90	the error is so bad that it boots me out my desktop then it wants me to log in again.	16:21
mint3	you using an ATI card, Anquietas7 ?	16:21
weather15	lot of bugs with 9.04?	16:21
leohartx	how do i perform check sums in linux ( i forgot)	16:21
Anquietas7	no, Intel Mobile Card	16:21
mint3	weather15, so and so like any new releases.	16:21
sebsebseb	weather15: no	16:21
albech	in that case i can say 9.04 has been working flawless since beta on my VAIO notebook.. very good job	16:21
Ben90	how would i go back to 8.10?	16:22
pepperjack	Ben90: reinstall	16:22
racecar56	there goes my laptop again	16:22
Ben90	or is 9.04 finally stable now?	16:22
racecar56	it is	16:22
mint3	yeah i got jaunty both on my laptop and pc. it works marvellously well.	16:22
leonel	no torrent for netbook remix ???	16:22
wrice_	leohartx: md5sum	16:22
racecar56	it was released TODAY	16:22
Ben90	ok.	16:22
dt3k	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent <-------this is final right? it says 4-20-09	16:22
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kklimonda	Ben90: it was officially released	16:22
Huufarted	Anybody that knows the difference between desktop and netbook with 9.04?	16:22
dronix	:( 15kbs	16:22
racecar56	how do i fix my gfx card???	16:22
mint3	weather15, the best proof of the pudding is in the tasting.	16:22
grawity	Ben90: 9.04 has been released, but users say it's still full of bugs :(	16:22
racecar56	how do i fix my gfx card????????	16:22
_3rt41_	any ubuntu pro to solve this? ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:22
Jimmymaniac	sebsebseb: 2Gb + 1Gb swapfile	16:22
bdelin88	I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to	16:23
racecar56	ill go run a forkbomb	16:23
racecar56	jk	16:23
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Ben90	i'll talk later.	16:23
_3rt41_	anyone at all? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:23
dt3k	http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent <-------this is final right? it says 4-20-09	16:23
weather15	Download time keeps going up up and up	16:23
Anquietas7	well ? some suggestions, ideeas ... ?...	16:23
SwedeMike	dt3k: yes.	16:23
Pici	dt3k: yes	16:23
dt3k	thx	16:23
Asad	weird... I am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades	16:24
racecar56	how2fix gfx?????	16:24
Jimmymaniac	dt3k: yep	16:24
Jeruvy	torrents are downloading very quickly, less than 10 minutes here.	16:24
weather15	WOW	16:24
TheData	torrents are super!	16:24
weather15	I will try torrent then thanks	16:24
_3rt41_	is there anybody able to solve this ? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:24
dt3k	torrent is way to go, over 1200 seeders on this AMD64 release	16:24
Huufarted	racecar56: how2fix is not a word. Proper English, please.	16:24
dt3k	probably more seeders on the i386 release	16:24
leohartx	wrice_ : thanks	16:24
decipherstatic	how can you upgrade from 9.04 beta to the release?	16:24
SwedeMike	I am seeding all relases, I'm not even using all my upstream capacity	16:24
Huufarted	racecar56: and if you do not get an answer, you either need to PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION or nobody knows how to fix it	16:24
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magicrobotmonkey	is it possible to upgrade from ext3 to ext4 after upgrading to jaunty without wiping discs?	16:25
XulOrezBus	anyone know where i can get that sweet login screen from 9.04 as a background?	16:25
_3rt41_	I am a total ubuntu noob, but this CRAP does not make me happy to switch to this system -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:25
joaopinto	!language \| _3rt41_	16:25
ubottu	_3rt41_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.	16:25
Anquietas7	well, can anyone help me or ?... what should I do ?	16:25
shivam	Ubuntu 8.10 is not detecting my bison web cam, can anyone help?	16:25
TheData	@SwedeMike: I am seeding all different kinds of linux distris since months.... ;-)	16:25
macvr	magicrobotmonkey: yes , but u might want to backup	16:25
_3rt41_	oww come on just give some help ->>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:25
LjL	!repeat	16:25
ubottu	Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	16:26
weather15	Just upgrade packages in package manager	16:26
_3rt41_	how it is possible to get a D AMN error on wubi fresh install? i mean W T F http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1131901	16:26
pronoy_	hi : how to give a command root previliges in the beginning of the session ??	16:26
weather15	Where can I find 9.04 torrents?	16:26
wooj	I had to compile a custom Kernel, is there a way to get Update-Manager to quit trying to install the same kernel again? Its the same version I believe.	16:26
Asad	I am upgrading using the "alternate cd" and it still is downloading some packages from the internet - although I selected "NO" to network upgrades ... ideas?	16:26
markrian	What's the quickest/easiest way to try out jaunty's new notifications?	16:26
* Ciros sits and upgrades		16:26
bdelin88	I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to	16:27
macvr	pronoy: what is the command ?	16:27
_3rt41_	FUCK YOU ALL	16:27
lepassive	Hi i was moving a file to a dir in a NTFS partition, the light went off, now i get Input/Output Error when doing any mv, rm on that directory any help?	16:27
bdelin88	anyone?	16:27
pepperjack	_3rt41_: that is a wubi problem. im not sure if wubi is officially supported or not on this channel. honestly i would just do a normal ubuntu install and dual boot if you must.	16:27
Jimmymaniac	!ask	16:28
ubottu	Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	16:28
bdelin88	I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to	16:28
pronoy_	macvr: rmmod pcspkr	16:28
Belding	!poop	16:28
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about poop	16:28
LjL	!botabuse	16:28
ubottu	Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots. Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".	16:28
Anquietas7	my problem is that I've installed the New Jaunty Jackalope Desktop 64 Bit edition and I cannot load the Desktop Effects... it says that "Could not enable desktop effects"... I've launched compiz from the Terminal but it says that it cannot find XGL and something is Blacklisted... what should I do ? please help	16:28
macvr	pronoy: just add "sudo " infront	16:28
bdelin88	I am pretty familiar with ubuntu but I am facing a system-freeze problem that I cannot figure out what the problem is, can anyone help me figure this out, I could pastebin some logfiles if i need to	16:29
pronoy_	macvr: :D i think i know that much....the point is that the command will not run unless supplied with the password...and it doesnt ask for one	16:29
weather15	9.04 Torrent 32 bit link?	16:29
macvr	pronoy: but is this command supposed to start during login?	16:29
Jimmymaniac	!ask \| bdelin88	16:29
ubottu	bdelin88: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	16:29
pepperjack	bdelin88: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log. if you are using binary nvidia drivers it may be worthwhile to test using the nv driver instead. could though be any number of things	16:29
decipherstatic	I have 9.04 beta and have run apt-get update / upgrade and there is nothing showing up?	16:29
racecar56	ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f43664787	16:29
mrwes	Anquietas7: what kind of video card/chip?	16:29
icqn	Anquietas7, what graphic do you have and what driver do you use?	16:29
daftykins	bdelin88, don't repeat so regularly please. can you describe your freezes in more detail?	16:29
bdelin88	pepperjack, i am using the open source ati drivers	16:30
pronoy_	macvr: if added to the sessions...i think it should work	16:30
The`Librarian	My issue is quite simple I hope, first timer at Linux, I want to know if it is possible to set the install to load my graphics card drivers before it starts the install so I can SEE what it is doing?	16:30
madrazr	Hello all, I have installed Jaunty and it ships with Python2.6 by default. I really want Python 2.5 by default	16:30
jEns\|afk	i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and the new ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)	16:30
madrazr	how do I do it?	16:30
Ciros	pronoy_: you try the sudo -s ?	16:30
sancho21	Congrats to Ubuntu team and community for the great Jaunty release. Good job!!! I even have to wait 3 times using wget to download the iso.	16:30
pronoy_	Ciros: what does sudo -s do ..and no i haven't tried it	16:30
macvr	pronoy: have u tried adding to sessions?	16:30
pepperjack	bdelin88: pastebin maybe the xorg log file and dmeg as well	16:30
bdelin88	daftykins: the freezes occur usually when it's idle or not idle	16:30
weather15	9.04 Torrent 32 bit link?	16:30
icqn	The`Librarian, it is so by default	16:31
Pici	!torrents > weather15	16:31
ubottu	weather15, please see my private message	16:31
bdelin88	pepperjack: rgr, one sec, thanks	16:31
icqn	i think	16:31
pronoy_	macvr: pay attention bro...i need to supply it with a password after adding it to sessions....that's the whole issue	16:31
racecar56	here	16:31
racecar56	http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a4	16:31
Gnimsh	mornin	16:31
bdelin88	pepperjack: xorg.0.log? it's empty	16:31
racecar56	dmesg	16:31
racecar56	ubuntu 9.04, graphics card not working right, xorg log: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f687d5a1e xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f43664787 dmesg: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f1b37e8a4	16:32
macvr	pronoy: either u can remove the password prompt for al the commands ...	16:32
Gnimsh	I'm just wondering where I can find the human theme folder to edit the gtrk file to change the space between menu items (in apps, system, etc)	16:32
panaggio	what I have to do to "upgrade" from #jaunty beta to #jaunty stable?	16:32
v4vijayakumar	I am downloading "ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso" from corresponding torrent, can I upgrade from this..?!	16:32
Gnimsh	in hardy i was able to run "locate human" in terminal and find it, but that folder doesn't come up in jaunty	16:32
dergringo	how do I get rid of this crazy fglrx?	16:32
pepperjack	bdelin88: eh? doublecheck the spelling and case make sure it didnt open a new file for you istead of the existing log	16:32
hbekel	racecar56: look at line 836+ of your dmesg paste	16:32
Gnimsh	v4vijayakumar, that will overwrite your current install	16:33
bdelin88	pepperjack: yea i think you're right, sry	16:33
Gnimsh	if you want to update do update-manager -d	16:33
panaggio	dergringo: how crazy?	16:33
jEns\|afk	hello, i have a o2-UMTS-Stick: icon210 and an up-to-date ubuntu, does somone know how i can install the stick(modem)?	16:33
pronoy_	macvr: that doesn't solve the problem....you see the output remains so....after the command is executed it requires a password to execute....so after adding it to the sessions menu i need a way that it should automatically get one or i need to enter one	16:33
Pici	Gnimsh: You need to run sudo update-db before your run locate (it runs automagically ever day or so anyway)	16:33
manolo	Hello, what happend with the release of ubuntu 9? when will be out?	16:33
v4vijayakumar	Gnimsh: oh no..	16:33
pronoy_	manolo: it is out	16:33
drguildo	is there any way i can change the permissions for all dynamically mounted fat32 usb mass storage devices?	16:33
The`Librarian	icqn: Running a GeForce 4 MX440 GFX card, using a tv and the S-Video out port to actually use My pc... I start the Ubuntu installation and all I get is ablank screen... nada, nothing... hence the problem	16:33
manolo	where i can download it?	16:33
icqn	!topic \| manolo	16:33
ubottu	manolo: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic	16:33
Gnimsh	Pici, command not found	16:33
sudaya	hello, i am having problem with my webacam in ubuntu	16:33
gpled	who was having trouble with wubi ?	16:33
pronoy_	manolo: read the topic of the channel	16:33
sudaya	any help plz	16:33
v4vijayakumar	Gnimsh: just thought of using p2p path to reduce http load	16:34
Pici	Gnimsh: Sorry, sudo updatedb	16:34
pronoy_	sudaya: just ask	16:34
dade`	now that 9.04 is out i can complain	16:34
dergringo	panaggio, it says version mismatch expecting x.org 7.4 found 7.1	16:34
Belding	haha	16:34
racecar56	hbekel, i still have a 180.44 script, should i install that one?	16:34
hbekel	racecar56: in case you have just upgraded form 180.44 to 180.51, have you unloaded the old nvidia module and inserted the new one?	16:34
dade`	vmmouse does not sync with host os using ubuntu 9.04 as guest	16:34
manolo	oh thanks you and please excuse me	16:34
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bdelin88	pepperjack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156585/ is the xorg log file	16:34
racecar56	hbekel, all i did was run the newer one	16:34
racecar56	hbekel, i guess not	16:34
Gnimsh	still gives same results	16:34
JPSman	how long will 9.04 be supported?	16:34
drguildo	this channel is borderline unusable	16:34
racecar56	JPSman, 18 monts	16:34
macvr	pronoy: add the command to /etc/rc.local	16:34
or4n	Hi, has anyone tested VMWare Workstation in 9.04?	16:34
sudaya	pronoy,lsusb shows Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)	16:34
racecar56	JPSman, 18 months	16:34
Pici	JPSman: 18 months	16:34
madrazr	can anyone please tell me how to make Python 2.5 default on 9.04?	16:34
Gnimsh	I'm wondering if maybe they replaced the folders with single xml files or something	16:35
hbekel	racecar56: you need to rmmod nvida, modprobe nvidia	16:35
weather15	Torrents slower for me	16:35
racecar56	hbekel, k	16:35
drguildo	too many people	16:35
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pronoy_	sudaya: i meant ask the whole channel !! :D	16:35
gpled	drguildo: :)	16:35
hbekel	racecar56: at least that will resolve that specific error	16:35
drguildo	are there any channels for more specific help?	16:35
kklimonda	or4n: yes	16:35
racecar56	hbekel, ill be back	16:35
drguildo	silly to ask	16:35
or4n	kklimonda: works without any problems?	16:35
macvr	pronoy_: add it without the sudo	16:35
gpled	drguildo: we should start one	16:35
kklimonda	or4n: most recent version (6.5.2) works flawlessly.	16:35
drguildo	question will scroll off the screen in 2 seconds	16:35
sudaya	having problem with web cam	16:36
Jimmymaniac	madrazr: my guess would be to install version 2.5 and see if it's supported by the alternates system, dunno	16:36
bahadunn	anyone have jaunty with ati graphics and get the tearing screen with fglrx?	16:36
drebes	hello there	16:36
macvr	sudaya: what model?	16:36
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dade`	I see ppl helping me all around, i think i'll suffocate	16:36
or4n	kklimonda: Good to know... maybe I'll upgrade mine then :)	16:36
sudaya	Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)	16:36
pronoy_	macvr: i think it requires root previliges to run	16:36
madrazr	Jimmymaniac: I have installed 2.5	16:36
drebes	just made a fresh install of 9.04, but can't find the openssh-server package? where did it go?!	16:36
Asad	hey ... anyone know how to change "upgrade manager" mirror ?	16:36
sudaya	macvr: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0c45:613c Microdia PC Camera (SN9C120)	16:36
macvr	pronoy_: no need while adding to rc.local	16:36
panaggio	dergringo: have you tryied to update and upgrade yet?	16:36
drguildo	gpled: not just another one, i mean like #ubuntu-network, #ubuntu-storage etc.	16:36
gpled	drguildo: that would be a good idea	16:37
drguildo	gpled: then people with particular knowledge can hang out in specific ones and people who need to get help on that topic can go there and not get flooded off	16:37
macvr	pronoy_: edit the rc.local, add the command, but sudo is not required, the command will run during every boot as root	16:37
Jimmymaniac	madrazr: man update-alternatives and check if python is there (--list i think)	16:37
v4vijayakumar	can I download "ubuntu-9.04-alternate-amd64.iso" through torrent, and upgrade locally..?? anyone ??	16:37
biosed	hey lads got a problem sending large amount of emails "2.6.27-7-server #1 SMP Tue Nov 4 20:16:57 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux"	16:37
sudaya	macvr: camstreame dont show device name	16:37
Asad	v4vijayakumar: yes....	16:37
Gnimsh	v4vijayakumar, do you have home on its own partition?	16:37
sipior	drguildo: you can always start your own, i suppose.	16:37
jtholmes	drebes, should be there exec apt-cache search openssh see what it finds	16:37
pronoy_	macvr: hang on..i'll have to check the rc.local	16:37
dergringo	panaggio, I've been using jaunty for 3 weeks. Just decided to install the driver today	16:37
madrazr	Jimmymaniac: ah Ok cool! let me try	16:37
Asad	v4vijayakumar: though some packages need internet access.. I need 500mb from internet despite having the alternate cd	16:38
v4vijayakumar	Gnimsh: I have everything in one partition	16:38
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Gnimsh	then afaik you'll you have to reformat that partition	16:38
gpled	drguildo: yah, then we could send people to a channel, where people can help them, in an area that they know best	16:38
Gnimsh	so if you back up your files, you can install via the CD	16:38
panaggio	dergringo: what driver? sorry if I lost some of your posts	16:38
macvr	sudaya: sorry pal.. i'm not sure of that model... but the present kernel2.27/28 has a lot of problems with cameras	16:38
Gnimsh	then put everything back	16:38
weather15	I'm thinking I might be beter of to run 8.10 for a couple of weeks	16:38
mint3	anyone know a desktop news sticker, that would scroll at the top of the screen with rss feeds/ news ?i tried liferea, but u have to open it for it to work plus it doesnt tick at the top of the screen .	16:38
Gnimsh	but you can't do the same upgrade as from the update manager	16:38
JPSman	"Scanning the mirror" I knew I should have DVD installed :OP	16:38
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drebes	jtholmes It finds openssh-client, but not -server.	16:38
drebes	weird.	16:38
Asad	v4vijayakumar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade	16:38
icqn	The`Librarian, well, i do not know, seems that you s-out put just not turned out by default, try vga?!	16:38
v4vijayakumar	Asad: thats fine, by then I will be on 9.04 :)	16:38
jtholmes	drebes, yes it was there a day or so ago as i installed it	16:39
Gnimsh	whoa cool	16:39
macvr	pronoy_: make sure u add it to the line before exit0	16:39
mariaisabel	j	16:39
xmrkite	hey, does anyone know of a good IM program that pops up messages when they come in? Similar to how AIM pops up a little notification near the clock in windows?	16:39
dergringo	panaggio, just downloaded and installed the binary ati driver from amd homepage because envy doesn't show a comapible driver anymore (it has in hardy and before)	16:39
mariaisabel	ola espero k estees bem	16:39
gpled	drguildo: right now, a "ubuntu 9.04 upgrade channel" would be good	16:39
panaggio	xmrkite: use pidgin with the proper plugin	16:39
Pici	!es \| mariaisabel	16:39
ubottu	mariaisabel: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	16:39
pronoy_	macvr: i'll have to first make the whole thing....and then sym link it to the file rcS.c	16:39
Pici	!ot	16:40
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	16:40
gpled	drguildo: so much stuff flying by, i cant even read	16:40
KingKimi	Hi . i am doing manual install...... where must i place the newly created Ext3 ?? beginning or AT the end ??? help me ..	16:40
weather15	There really needs to be 9.04 channel	16:40
KingKimi	!jaunty > KingKimi	16:40
ubottu	KingKimi, please see my private message	16:40
Prez00	isn't this now a 9.04 channel? the channel is for current version...	16:40
mariaisabel	isabel_96@wapa.com	16:40
panaggio	dergringo: use ati opensource driver. I've used fglrx for a long time, and I can say that the opensource driver is now as good as the closed source alternative	16:40
xmrkite	i got pidgen going, but which plugin do i use for that?	16:41
Pici	Prez00: Yes.	16:41
bdelin88	pepperjack: I have system log files paste-binned as well if you need to look at those	16:41
pronoy_	macvr: man ubuntu uses 2 for graphical boot right ?	16:41
yowshi	weee upgrade day. maybe this time they will fix some of the sound issues	16:41
KingKimi	i am doing manual install..... where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap enough ?? ( i have 1 gb ram)	16:41
panaggio	xmrkite: guifications or something like it	16:41
gpled	their would need to be a way, would could tie the channels together	16:41
xmrkite	k	16:41
macvr	pronoy_: ? not sure...	16:41
xmrkite	tx Panaggie	16:41
defrysk	xmrkite, the notification plugin probably	16:41
panaggio	xmrkite: my pidgin is translated to portuguese, so I don't know the original name	16:42
JPSman	almost about to run Jaunty for the first time....I'll catch you guys on the flip side :OD	16:42
pronoy_	macvr: u see i'll need to create a whole rc.local...and sym link it with rc2.c and am not sure it'll work or not	16:42
dergringo	panaggio, does it perform as good as proprietary driver?	16:42
xmrkite	is it included with Pidgen, or is that something i have to go find and install	16:42
v4vijayakumar	some problem again, there is no server / desktop alternate iso torrents...	16:42
pronoy_	macvr: i think if i added the script to bash then will it work	16:42
gpled	weather15: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk?	16:42
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macvr	pronoy_: dont u have rc.local by default?	16:43
KingKimi	PLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap	16:43
pronoy_	macvr: in ubuntu i don't think it exists	16:43
gpled	drguildo: can you join #ubuntu-helpdesk	16:43
drguildo	gpled: hehehe, yeah	16:43
drguildo	gpled: people will still probably just come here though	16:43
manpoole	so what time did it come out?	16:43
manpoole	and what is the fastest way to download it?	16:43
wrice_	v4vijayakumar: Alternate installers: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#alternate	16:43
panaggio	dergringo: in general, yes. there's some really little problems. and it's better in some cases	16:43
macvr	pronoy_: i'm not sure how i have it!	16:43
defrysk	xmrkite, get pidgin-plugin-pack , it has guifications included	16:43
Pici	gpled: We are not splitting the channels at this time, please do not redirect people to unofficial channels.	16:43
drguildo	gpled: it's like trying to read a book by doing cat war_and_peace.txt	16:43
Lint01	panaggio, open source driver has no 3D	16:43
jtholmes	manpoole about 9A EST	16:43
xmrkite	great - tx	16:43
drebes	just run update-manager, openssh-server is now found. :)	16:43
KingKimi	PLZ HELP ME :( where must i place the ext3 ?? in the beggning or at the end ?? help mne quickly plzzzz.... and is 1700 mb of swap	16:43
KingKimi	i am doing manual install	16:43
Lint01	I've lost both sound and 3D acceleration after upgrade, and it's still not fixed in Release. What kind of problem is this?	16:43
pronoy_	macvr: i'll have to check..hang on...once again :)	16:44
mindframe-	is the 9.04 alternate installer not available yet?	16:44
Pici	KingKimi: Wherever you want.	16:44
panaggio	Lint01: well, I have compiz here, and I heve the cube, and a lot more.	16:44
bdelin88	pepperjack: you still there man?	16:44
gpled	Pici: just trying to move the topic, to talk about it	16:44
KingKimi	Pici will it affect my windows in C ??	16:44
manpoole	cool which bt / mirror is the fastest currently?	16:44
kklimonda	mindframe-: no - it's already there	16:44
pepperjack	bdelin88: yeah. im at work sorry. nothing in that log file.	16:44
pepperjack	bdelin88: no problems anyway	16:44
Lint01	panaggio, which card do you have?	16:44
KingKimi	Pici: i did install manual to F drive ,,,, and xp is in C ..... if i place it in beginning or end ? will it affect xp ?	16:45
KingKimi	Pici: ?	16:45
Pici	gpled: #ubuntu-offtopic is for other, non support subjects.	16:45
Pici	KingKimi: Only if you touch that partition.	16:45
bdelin88	pepperjack: oh ok man, sry, didn't know you were still on :)	16:45
panaggio	Lint01: Radeon Xpress 200M	16:45
lantay77	how ocme the torrent page is only ubuntu 8.10 and 8.04?	16:45
gpled	Pici: thank	16:45
sudaya	macvr: my kernel version is 2.6.27-11-generic	16:45
lantay77	where are the 9.04 torrents?	16:45
Pici	!torrents > lantay77	16:45
ubottu	lantay77, please see my private message	16:45
KingKimi	!torrents > lantay77	16:45
bdelin88	pepperjack: do you have time to look at this system log? I am trying to look through it, but I don't understand much, looking for anything odd like errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156589/	16:45
KingKimi	oopps ! sorry pici !	16:45
pronoy_	macvr: i have it alright..now do i write a script and then add it to it or write the whole command there ?	16:45
Natanael_L	Ouch, I don't have enough free space on / (/home is on a seperate partition) - so I can't upgrade my laptop!	16:45
Natanael_L	Argh!	16:45
KingKimi	Pici: i am instlling ubuntu to F drive..... and windows is in C drive...... so whether it will affect my xp or not ?	16:46
macvr	sudaya: lot of cams have problem in this kernel u need to wait for kernel 2.6.29...	16:46
KingKimi	Pici: i mean, the begginning or the end	16:46
defrysk	Natanael_L, sudo apt-get clean and check again	16:46
Natanael_L	I have no interest in wiping stuff there first	16:46
Natanael_L	defrysk: thanks, will do	16:46
bdelin88	pepperjack: I found this "AMI BIOS detected: BIOS may corrupt low RAM, working it around." on line 5669	16:46
Pici	KingKimi: No, it should not.	16:46
coin	does some Chinese people here ?	16:46
Pici	!zh \| coin	16:46
sudaya	macvr: thankx , when it will be released	16:46
ubottu	coin: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw 或者 #ubuntu-hk	16:46
Lint01	how can I see my current videodriver?	16:46
macvr	pronoy_: just add the command u want to execute before the line exit0... what does the command do by the way?	16:46
Natanael_L	defrysk: no output?	16:47
KingKimi	Pici: thanks very much.. !	16:47
weather15	Downloads are getting slower Slower and Slower	16:47
macvr	sudaya: not sure... just have to wait...	16:47
defrysk	Lint01, apt-cache policy <yourdriverpackage>	16:47
KingKimi	Pici and i gave swap as 1700 .. i have 1G ram./. so is it ok ?	16:47
defrysk	Natanael_L, then its done ;)	16:47
Pici	KingKimi: Thats fine.	16:47
panaggio	Lint01: lspci \| grep VGA	16:47
Natanael_L	That fast?	16:47
pronoy_	macvr: you experience the irritating pc beep when you press backspace in any textfield ? it removes that	16:47
bdelin88	pepperjack: also found this on line 5490: "Apr 22 01:51:26 dansdesktop pulseaudio[5412]: module.c: Failed to load module "module-x11-xsmp" (argument: ""): initialization failed."	16:47
Natanael_L	Lolzorz. Doubt 2 GB was cleaned that fast, even on Linux	16:47
defrysk	Natanael_L, looks like it, see how much more space you have now	16:48
macvr	pronoy_: oh... just add the command, no need to sudo it...	16:48
KingKimi	Pici: THANKS !! .. meet you in this channel from "real" ubuntu ;-)	16:48
bdelin88	Line 5486 found this: "Apr 22 01:51:13 dansdesktop x-session-manager[5343]: WARNING: Unable to find provider 'gnome-wm' of required component 'windowmanager' "	16:48
Natanael_L	I've got 8 GB for /, thought it was enough when installing	16:48
KingKimi	Pici: Bye !	16:48
manolo	Im a web developer, i develope since 9 years ago on windows and im trying to migrate to ubuntu, there is on windows, on notepad++ a feature that i absolute need. when im over a word, all the words like that get shadow, you can see an example here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/351031/sombrea.png	16:48
Natanael_L	Yes, I'm a (semi-)noob	16:48
AslanMan	Hello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..	16:48
yowshi	manolo: there is a highlight all function in gedit i think	16:49
Lint01	panaggio, there's no driver info in lspci output	16:49
yowshi	manolo: when you use the search	16:49
manolo	i cant found it	16:49
defrysk	Natanael_L, how much space has your / ?	16:49
AslanMan	HOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?	16:49
AslanMan	Hello .. please help me out here .. I have a problem with my kernel (using ubuntu 9.04 and latest kernel (28.11 generic)), it doesn't let me use mouse and keyboard. So I want to try installing an older version but I can't even login to recovery mode. So I am now in through Ubuntu LiveCD and I have access to the installed file system HD ..	16:49
AslanMan	HOw can I using shell mount that HD to be able to use the file system as if I am in?	16:49
FloodBot2	AslanMan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	16:49
hbekel	manolo: emacs highlights searches in a simmilar manner	16:49
manolo	yowshi: yeah but in notepad is without search just when im over any word.	16:49
Natanael_L	AslanMan: I'm not really sure, but you could download an older kernel and put it in /boot I think, then update /boot/grub/menu.list manually	16:49
oshua86_	ok, so someone told me to install the kubuntu package so i could flip between gnome and kde, i did install but its not showing when i log off the option for kde	16:49
panaggio	Lint01: sorry, I've read "video card"	16:49
oshua86_	anything else i need to install?	16:49
pronoy_	macvr: it doesn't have a exit0 line	16:50
duaneb	hi people	16:50
duaneb	could i have help with wine?	16:50
yowshi	oh	16:50
Natanael_L	oshua86_: You have to switch from login screen - options are somewhere	16:50
duaneb	and WoW?	16:50
AslanMan	Natanael_L: Just download and put it there?	16:50
coin	thank you	16:50
macvr	pronoy_: pastebin the /etc/rc.local file	16:50
Natanael_L	AslanMan: Don't know.	16:50
duaneb	After the intro video plays, it dies with a memory access error.	16:50
Natanael_L	defrysk: Checking	16:50
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oshua86_	Natanael_L, right like log off the click in optiosn right?	16:50
jtholmes	manolo, couldnt read it real well but i only use vim it will do things like that	16:51
panaggio	Lint01: maybe 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf \| grep Driver' will show you what's the driver xorg is going to use	16:51
bdelin88	pepperjack: this seems to be reoccurring throughout the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156593/	16:51
Skiessi	did ubuntu 9.04 get released?	16:51
Natanael_L	defrysk: 1.6 GB	16:51
racecar56	yes	16:51
commodore256	yeah	16:51
jtholmes	manolo, but vim has a steep learning curve	16:51
uni4dfx	w000! party time	16:51
Skiessi	\o/	16:51
racecar56	me like vim	16:51
Pici	!ot	16:51
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	16:51
uni4dfx	i'm so getting wasted today	16:51
defrysk	Natanael_L, that is not much	16:51
Skiessi	yeah	16:51
hbekel	racecar56: success?	16:51
Natanael_L	Look for updates via GUI and click upgrade	16:51
racecar56	hbekel, well, i decided aww heck it's just a driver, it would be better to have it working anyway, cause thats all that matters	16:51
jtholmes	racecar56, i like it to	16:51
racecar56	hbekel, im sticking with 180.44	16:52
archman	Will my boot setting remain the same if I upgrade to Jaunty (turned off wome services on boot)	16:52
racecar56	hbekel, but still.... no 3D	16:52
Pici	This is still a support channel, please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-release-party	16:52
defrysk	Natanael_L, you could try upgrading in sections and after each bit sudo apt-get clean	16:52
pronoy_	macvr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/156596/	16:52
Lint01	panaggio, my xorg.conf contains only entries like 'Configured Video Device', etc	16:52
racecar56	hbekel, oops im wrong, i DO have 3D	16:52
racecar56	hbekel, problem solved	16:52
funkyHat	agh :(. Firefox is crashing every time it starts, and it's not asking if I want to reload tabs because of the crash. Anyone know how to clear remembered tabs/session?	16:52
Natanael_L	defrysk: Any other quick ways to lose 400 MB? Can I resize / live? I know it's probably unlikely though...	16:52
hbekel	racecar56: no, problem evaded	16:52
weather15	If anyone is looking for wine help Server: irc.freenode.net	16:53
weather15	Port: 6667	16:53
weather15	Channel: #winehq	16:53
racecar56	hbekel, all i have to do is remember do not upgrade nvidia driveres	16:53
Natanael_L	defrysk: Sections?	16:53
Pici	weather15: This is freenode.	16:53
defrysk	Natanael_L, you can resize with an ubuntu jaunty livecd	16:53
mphill	Pici: good point	16:53
macvr	pronoy_: u r looking at the wrong file!!! i said /etc/rc.local	16:53
Natanael_L	fglrx have no working version for 9.04! :(	16:53
Natanael_L	I've got no live-cd here	16:53
pronoy_	macvr: OH man !! so sorry !!! hang on	16:54
LeChacal	hello, i am trying to sort out my partition and under fdisk I see a partition that I don't recognize. I have tried mounting it but mount wants a file system type and have tried what i thought it is with no luck. Can someone help me figure out what this partition is and how to mount it to see what is on it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/156598/	16:54
jtholmes	defrysk, resize a partition with manual install yes	16:54
Natanael_L	Hmm..... UNetbootin?	16:54
funkyHat	Natanael_L: if your card is R500 or older there is now full 3D support in the open source ATI drivers, so you don't need fglrx	16:54
Natanael_L	Ati 1200 xpress mobile whatever	16:54
lianimator	how do I upgrade pidgin from 2.5.2 to 2.5.5 on intrepid?	16:54
Type3Singularity	Can someone with a clean Jaunty install do a 'df -h' and tell me how much space it uses?	16:55
hbekel	racecar56: all you would have to do is to actually LOAD the updated module before trying to use it	16:55
Lint01	funkyHat, and how can enable it? I have RV515 card	16:55
macvr	Natanael_L: what is the ATI card u are using?	16:55
racecar56	lianimator, getdeb.net	16:55
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Natanael_L	I know that the ATI control panel have shwon up now after an update earlier	16:55
sipior	LeChacal: looks like an extended partition, judging from the start and end cylinder values.	16:55
duaneb	When I upgraded to 8.10 from 8.04, the sound stopped working	16:55
pronoy_	macvr: yeah i have alright...i'll add it	16:55
Natanael_L	macvr: 1200 express mobile something	16:55
duaneb	under pavucontrol, the output device just disappeared.	16:55
macvr	pronoy_: sure the end is exit0	16:55
defrysk	Natanael_L, about sections , first for example upgrade gnome, then clean, then sudo apt-get upgrade , then clean, en then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (for example)	16:55
AslanMan	Guys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?	16:55
Lint01	so can anyone here tell me how to know the videodriver which is currently in use?	16:56
Natanael_L	defrysk: Some other day. This library is closing soon	16:56
NejinOniwa	nect	16:56
defrysk	k	16:56
racecar56	hbekel, so do sudo rmmod nvidia, then execute nvidia 180.51 setup, then tell it to auto configure xorg.conf and then sudo modprobe nvidia, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start?	16:56
funkyHat	Lint01: if you installed ubuntu from the CD it will already be enabled, if you upgraded, try moving your /etc/X11/xorg.conf so it isn't read ( sudo mv /etc/X11/{xorg.conf,xorg.conf.old} )	16:56
RickX	anyone know why sysinfo doesn't appear in the Debian menu?	16:56
sipior	LeChacal: and the fact that the remaining three partitions begin at sda5...	16:56
pepperjack	Lint01: lsmod lists all modules loaded	16:56
panaggio	Lint01: there's no "Devide" Section?	16:56
macvr	Natanael_L: i have 1400 and i'm using the with th ati driver ,, and everything works fine.. give it a try	16:56
stone1343	i have a somewhat-unrelated question, does the overall 'net slow down noticeably days like today?	16:56
Rolcol	is the main server down?	16:57
AslanMan	Guys, how can I mount ubuntu file system that reside on another HD logged in in another system on the same box but different HD inorder to access the other file system using shell as if I am actually logged in there?	16:57
Lint01	panaggio, there's only 1 device: "Configured video device"	16:57
Natanael_L	What happens if I just upgrade? That driver will get deactivated - but which will be used instead?	16:57
hbekel	racecar56: you just have to unload the currently loaded module before restarting X after having installed the new module	16:57
Steffanx	Upgrading too 9.04.. didn't go very well for me :(	16:57
LeChacal	sipior: that is what it looked like, but which partition is it extending off of? i am trying to figure out which partition i need so i can get ride of XP and put another version\disto of linux in its place.	16:57
racecar56	hbekel, oh	16:57
racecar56	ill try that	16:57
hbekel	racecar56: wether you do that before or after running setup is irrelevant	16:57
mackk431	aslanman did you check the grub files?	16:57
Steffanx	now ubuntu hangs at startup (afther login) :(	16:57
panaggio	Lint01: so you may reinstall you video driver	16:57
racecar56	hbekel, k	16:58
racecar56	hbekel, take 2	16:58
LeChacal	sipior: reword which partition should i delete to get ride of windows xp but leave ubuntu and vista?	16:58
uni4dfx	stone1343: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/	16:58
sipior	LeChacal: looks like sda1, then.	16:58
AslanMan	mackk431: why?	16:58
AslanMan	mackk431: what for?	16:59
stone1343	uni4dfx: interesting, thanks	16:59
mackk431	cause you asked about boot problems	16:59
xcdfgkjhgcv	Should I install an lpia kernel on my Atom Netbook? Does Ubuntu include an lpia kernel in the Jaunty repos?	16:59
panaggio	Lint01: do you want to test the open source driver?	16:59
uni4dfx	stone1343: i don't really see a trend	16:59
mackk431	grub organizes the boot of ubuntu	17:00
bdelin88	pepperjack: still there dude	17:00
LeChacal	sipior: ok thank you, i am going into vista and see what it says, then delete it	17:00
scott9876	can someone help a newbie	17:00
AslanMan	mackk431: oh sorry yes .. but I guess I'll know how to selve it better if I get my second question answered	17:00
ubuntistas	system testing doesn't open	17:00
Lint01	panaggio, I have module called 'radeon'. is it that 'open-source driver'?	17:00
scott9876	I am trying to go from Hardy to Jackalope (skipping Ibex)	17:00
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scott9876	because it's buggy on my dell e1505	17:01
pronoy_	macvr: does the command in rc.local work on bootup or during starting of the display manager	17:01
pronoy_	?	17:01
panaggio	Lint01: nops. the ati driver is the opensource one	17:01
stone1343	uni4dfx: yeah, not yet	17:01
macvr	pronoy_: boot	17:01
racecar56	hbekel, bah humbug, ill just stuck with 180.44	17:01