/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/05/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

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Unit193welcome back, ubuntulog_00:03
cyberangerMeeting in 15 minutes00:15
cyberangerPrimary item on our Agenda is Leadership Elections00:15
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: is that script useful or annoying?00:15
cyberangerMeeting in 10 minutes00:20
cyberangerPrimary item on our Agenda is Leadership Elections00:20
pace_t_zulucyberanger: useful00:20
pace_t_zulucyberanger: we can refine it .... and we should probably delegate it to a proper bot00:20
cyberangerproper bot is already in progress00:21
cyberanger(and your presuming this isn't, could be eggdrop bot doubling as an irc proxy)00:21
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i realize ... but we don't want to make a permanent service like that tied to a username00:23
pace_t_zuluwrst: ping00:23
pace_t_zuluUnit193: ping00:23
Unit193pace_t_zulu: Pong00:23
pace_t_zuluchris4585 cosmicpizza Juzzy orangeninja orias Svpernova09 twayneprice ping00:23
pace_t_zuluUnit193: metting starting in <10min00:23
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: tied to my username yeah, agreed00:24
cyberangerhence why the main bot is cyberanger-bt00:24
cyberangerhence why the main bot is cyberanger-bot00:24
orangeninjapong00:24
oriasrawr00:24
pace_t_zulucyberanger: for development purposes its ok ... but bots on usernames in irc - you know how that goes00:24
cyberangerMeeting in 5 minutes00:25
cyberangerPrimary item on our Agenda is Leadership Elections00:25
pace_t_zuluthank you cyberanger ;)00:25
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: get's a bit crazy, yep00:25
* Unit193 stands to watch00:25
* cyberanger tells Unit193 to grab a chair & get comfy00:25
pace_t_zuluUnit193: i hope you feel encouraged to participate00:25
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: within his bounds as an ohio resident, yep00:26
wrstpace_t_zulu: pong00:26
Unit193cyberanger: It's quite comfy actually (not a desk chair :D )00:26
pace_t_zuluso we have cyberanger Unit193 orangeninja orias wrst00:27
pace_t_zulu+myself ... that's 600:27
pace_t_zulunot bad for <5min before meeting00:27
cyberangerUnit193: you are welcome to our meetings, short of any vote that is restricted (for example our regional leadership is voted on solely by the region their in)00:27
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: and without an email00:27
pace_t_zuluUnit193: what part of TN do you live in?00:27
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: Unit193 lives in Ohio00:27
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i am very keen on http://loco.ubuntu.com00:27
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i think that needs to become a priority00:29
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yeah, it seems to be a real nice setup00:29
pace_t_zului'll add that as a last minute agenda item00:29
cyberangeridk with all the issues ubuntu has to deal with, if anything..oh, you meant our priorities00:29
pace_t_zuluyou guys ready?00:29
cyberangerI think mailing list is higher00:29
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: nearly ready00:29
wrstpace_t_zulu: i have family in i will be in and out but ready :)00:29
cyberangerMeeting Time00:30
cyberangerPrimary item on our Agenda is Leadership Elections00:30
pace_t_zulu#startmeeting00:30
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pace_t_zuluUnit193: and orias were here00:31
Unit193\o00:31
pace_t_zulu[link]http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/146/detail/00:32
MootBotLINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/146/detail/00:32
pace_t_zulu[topic]Utilize http://loco.ubuntu.com more extensively00:32
MootBotNew Topic: Utilize http://loco.ubuntu.com more extensively00:32
pace_t_zuluok, so i just added this just now00:32
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: mind If I start off with something00:32
pace_t_zulubut i want to draw attention to this ...00:32
pace_t_zulucyberanger: this will be brief, then i'll yield to you00:33
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: sorry, meant before the election (already forgot about this item)00:33
pace_t_zulu[link]http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team00:33
MootBotLINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team00:33
pace_t_zuluthis should become a base of information00:34
pace_t_zuluit provides RSS feeds and iCal feeds ... which can be parsed elsewhere00:34
pace_t_zulujust wanted to draw attention to that ...00:34
pace_t_zuluany concerns with utilizing http://loco.ubuntu.com more extensively?00:35
pace_t_zuluif not, i'll yield to cyberanger00:36
cyberangerone, we must avoid using it so extensively that we forget about tools that are currently more utilized (I've been bad about our mailing list, our best tool)00:36
cyberangerthat is my one concern, I was bad about using one medium (IRC) for information, more often than not00:37
pace_t_zulucyberanger: agreed ... but this relatively new and focused towards the needs of this group - i'm suggesting we embrace it00:37
cyberangerwe might not have much mail on our list, but we have alot of readers on it00:37
cyberangerI agree, so long as we fix the other places that have taken a blindeye lately00:38
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i agree that the mailing list is under-utilized as well00:38
cyberangeras far as writing, I got enough corrospendence via it, you know about one person for that reason too00:39
pace_t_zulu[idea] embrace http://loco.ubuntu.com as a new tool for the loco ... while renewing interest in well loved tools like the mailing list00:39
MootBotIDEA received:  embrace http://loco.ubuntu.com as a new tool for the loco ... while renewing interest in well loved tools like the mailing list00:39
cyberangerseems anything on the list wasn't staying on the list, rather it went to the sender, something I fixed, one reason it became underutilized I think00:40
cyberangeranyhow, moving on, if everyone is ok with that00:41
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i'd like to also point out this http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=kstats/charts&view=referrers00:42
pace_t_zululet me screenshot that00:42
pace_t_zuluhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601465 referred 1153 views at http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org00:43
MootBotLINK received:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1601465 referred 1153 views at http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org00:43
cyberangerour fourms which is ignored even more than the mailing list, cool00:43
pace_t_zulunearest referrer has only 95 views ...00:43
cyberanger89 views00:44
cyberangerI'd exclude the 95 one, cause it's our own site referring itself00:44
pace_t_zuluso that highlights cyberanger's point that the well loved tools still have power00:44
pace_t_zulucyberanger: yea... the redirect from http://ubuntu-tennessee.org00:44
pace_t_zulus/reinforces/highlights/00:45
pace_t_zuluanyway00:45
cyberangerand also note, none of that is from me (I have referrer disabled in my browser)00:45
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you had something you wanted to discuss quickly before leadership elections00:45
cyberangerand others may do that, so even with that being metioned, our tutorials drove the most traffic00:46
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yes, I would00:46
pace_t_zulucyberanger: go ahead00:46
cyberangerlast month I stepped down as trustee, passed the tourch for the remainder of my term (ending today) to pace_t_zulu to manage my time00:47
cyberangera little better, try and start a state lug with other members here & elsewhere00:47
cyberangerand it sounds likely I'll be moving some point in the next month or two00:48
pace_t_zulucyberanger: where might you be moving?00:49
cyberangerI plan on running for east tn leadership, however knowing that my time in tennessee could be limited, I'd prefer to have somebody else take that position, I'll be on IRC to guide and assist this loco in any way I can00:49
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: most likely, alaska, TSA hasn't offically hired me, and I've got positions I've applied for all over, however none were open in TN00:50
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i think you should go ahead and run as if you will be staying in-state00:50
cyberangerclosest is Huntsville, but there is a priority they'd like to fill00:50
pace_t_zulucyberanger: seeing as you are thinking of starting a state lug00:51
pace_t_zulubut its up to you man00:51
cyberangerwhile it's not official, rarely does anyone get this far in the process and get turned down00:51
cyberangeralso an offer for a startup isp has come up, but that is 3 months out still00:52
pace_t_zulucyberanger: my point is that your leadership is welcome00:52
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you can pass the torch if/when you leave00:52
cyberangeranyhow, I can't be a leader once out of state, and wanted to further metion that it will be unlikely for me to carry out a full yearlong term00:53
pace_t_zuluwe should get a show of hands .... we may have lost some00:53
cyberangerand last month I forgot about an item on the agenda, I want to make a motion for 6 month terms, seems beyond 6 months things stagnate a bit00:54
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: good idea, 0/00:54
cyberangerJuzzy:00:54
cyberangerorangeninja:00:54
cyberangerorias:00:54
orangeninjao/00:54
cyberangerSvpernova09:00:54
cyberangertwayneprice:00:54
pace_t_zuluwe started with cyberanger wrst orangeninja Unit193 and myself00:54
cyberangerwrst:00:54
* Unit193 00:55
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: figured with this bit, might want to try for every tennessean00:55
cyberanger[topic] shorten leadership terms to 6 months00:55
cyberanger[TOPIC] shorten leadership terms to 6 months00:55
cyberangerwrong syntax?00:56
pace_t_zulu[topic] shorten leadership terms to 6 months00:56
MootBotNew Topic:  shorten leadership terms to 6 months00:56
oriaso/00:56
pace_t_zului am the topic master00:56
cyberangeroh, chair only function00:56
pace_t_zuluapparently00:56
pace_t_zulucyberanger: go ahead00:56
cyberangeridea is for everyone00:56
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i'm keen on it00:56
pace_t_zulucyberanger: perhaps for regional points of contact?00:57
cyberangerideally every leader, re-election00:57
pace_t_zuluhi orias and orangeninja ... please feel free to voice your thoughts00:57
Svpernova09o/00:57
oriassorry, trying to get caught up00:57
cyberangeras both trustee and a regional leader, I found myself and other leaders got distant, worn out, priorities shifted, so forth00:58
cyberangerat about that point00:58
pace_t_zulucyberanger: how bout we vote on it next meeting after we sort out elections now00:58
cyberangeror at the least, too routine to focus00:58
pace_t_zulucyberanger: go one00:58
pace_t_zulus/one/on00:58
orias6months is a reasonible time frame00:58
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: we kinda need it before we vote people for another term, unless we make this election contigent on this item next meeting00:58
cyberangersince this is defining their term limit00:59
cyberangerdon't you think00:59
pace_t_zulucyberanger i'm prepared to vote on it now00:59
cyberangeras am I, anyone opposed to this idea?00:59
cyberangerif not, lets vote?00:59
pace_t_zuluorias orangeninja Svpernova09 please feel free to speak your minds before we start the vote00:59
oriasvote on?00:59
pace_t_zululet me know if you have nothing to add ... and i'll start01:00
oriassorry, who are the nominees?01:00
cyberangerorias: a 6 month term01:00
Svpernova09SHorter terms are fine, but you may run into an issue of you're having to relect people every 6 months01:00
oriasah01:00
pace_t_zuluorias: shortening all terms from 1 year the 6 months01:00
oriasaye01:00
cyberangerSvpernova09: right now we have leaders disappearing every 6 months or so anyhow01:00
pace_t_zului suppose going at the same frequency as ubuntu releases01:00
Svpernova09Yeah, very true01:00
pace_t_zuluwhich is kinda cool01:01
pace_t_zuluphase shifted by 2 months01:01
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: and that'll help with release parties, seems we peak around releases, august to october we plan, then wait till august01:01
pace_t_zuluanyway ... i'm prepared to vote if everyone else feels like their voice has been heard01:01
pace_t_zulucyberanger:  right01:01
pace_t_zulucyberanger: great idea01:02
* wrst catches up01:02
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: you there?01:02
cyberangerperhaps a litte exgerrated, but kinda hits the issue I see, 6 months is as active we manage to be01:02
orangeninjayez01:02
pace_t_zuluwrst: 6 month terms01:02
orangeninjayes* een01:02
wrstyeah makes sense01:02
orangeninja6 months01:02
cyberangerSvpernova09: would you be willing to give it a try, or have a counter-proposal in mind?01:02
Svpernova09oh, I didn't mean to argue for or against it01:03
Svpernova09Was just throwing out 2 cents01:03
pace_t_zulumotion to vote on 6 month leadership terms01:03
cyberangerSvpernova09: ah, yeah, and it's a good point, right now I see having leaders get stale every 6 months as an issue too01:03
pace_t_zulucyberanger: Svpernova09 it seems to me as if interest peaks around leadership elections perhaps01:04
cyberangerlet's try this, worst case, we vote to return to the current 1 year length if this doesn't work01:04
Svpernova09certainly01:04
cyberangerI second the motion pace_t_zulu01:04
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: elections & releases01:04
pace_t_zulucyberanger: releases?01:05
cyberangerubuntu market's the loco's hard for release parties & such01:05
pace_t_zuluright01:05
pace_t_zulu[vote] 6 month term for all leadership positions01:05
MootBotPlease vote on:  6 month term for all leadership positions.01:05
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot01:05
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pace_t_zulu+101:05
MootBot+1 received from pace_t_zulu. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 101:05
orias+01:05
orias+101:05
MootBot+1 received from orias. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 201:05
oriaslol01:05
pace_t_zulugood hustle orias01:06
cyberangertn was dead at that time, so I went to georgia's release party, shortly after w4ett restarted things & each release it grows01:06
wrst+101:06
MootBot+1 received from wrst. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 301:06
Svpernova09+101:06
MootBot+1 received from Svpernova09. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 401:06
cyberanger+101:06
MootBot+1 received from cyberanger. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 501:06
pace_t_zuluorangeninja ping01:06
orangeninja+101:06
MootBot+1 received from orangeninja. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 601:06
pace_t_zuluthat's everyone ... right01:06
pace_t_zuluit carries01:06
pace_t_zulu[endvote]01:06
MootBotFinal result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 601:06
cyberangeryep, agreed01:06
pace_t_zulu[agreed] 6 month term for all leadership positions01:07
MootBotAGREED received:  6 month term for all leadership positions01:07
pace_t_zulu[topic]nominations for leadership positions01:07
MootBotNew Topic: nominations for leadership positions01:07
cyberangernext, I'd like to nominate pace_t_zulu for a 6 month trustee position01:07
pace_t_zuluthank you cyberanger i accept01:07
pace_t_zuluno need to assing the time period as part of the position though ;)01:08
cyberangerhe's stepped in my shoes quickly, been doing a great job with it & middle tennessee too (as he's currently our middle tn leader too)01:08
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: oh, merely reminding myself01:08
pace_t_zulumotion to start with trustee position then move to regional positions01:08
wrstsecond ... if its needed01:08
cyberangerit's custom for the person nominated to abstain, however that is not a requirement01:09
pace_t_zulu[topic] nominations for trustee position01:09
MootBotNew Topic:  nominations for trustee position01:09
cyberangerpace_t_zulu has been nominated by cyberanger & seconded by wrst01:10
pace_t_zuluwrst would you be interested in the trustee position?01:10
wrstno sir01:10
wrst-1 pace_t_zulu :)01:10
wrstbut +1 for pace_t_zulu01:11
pace_t_zului would nominate you otherwise01:11
wrstpace_t_zulu:  i think that and the mid tn leadership is right as it needs to be01:11
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: it's ok, we're gonna draft him for middle tn ;-)01:11
pace_t_zuluanyway01:11
pace_t_zuluorangeninja orias Svpernova09 y'all have any nominations?01:12
Svpernova09I don't. I'm just a spectator :_D01:12
orangeninja^01:12
orias^^01:12
pace_t_zulu[vote] pace_t_zulu as trustee01:13
MootBotPlease vote on:  pace_t_zulu as trustee.01:13
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot01:13
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pace_t_zulu=)01:13
pace_t_zulu+001:13
MootBotAbstention received from pace_t_zulu. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 001:13
pace_t_zuluoops01:13
wrst+101:13
MootBot+1 received from wrst. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 101:13
orias+101:13
MootBot+1 received from orias. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 201:13
Svpernova09+101:13
MootBot+1 received from Svpernova09. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 301:13
orangeninja+101:13
MootBot+1 received from orangeninja. 4 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 401:13
pace_t_zulucyberanger:  ping01:13
MootBotPrivate +1 vote received. 5 for, 0 against, 1 have abstained. Count is now 501:14
pace_t_zulu[endvote]01:14
MootBotFinal result is 5 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 501:14
pace_t_zulu[agreed] pace_t_zulu is trustee01:14
MootBotAGREED received:  pace_t_zulu is trustee01:14
pace_t_zulu[topic] regional leadership positions01:14
MootBotNew Topic:  regional leadership positions01:14
cyberangerEast TN01:14
cyberangerMiddle TN01:15
pace_t_zulubtw, thanks guys for the votes ;)01:15
cyberangerWest TN01:15
cyberangersounds like a good order, we'll follow the sun01:15
pace_t_zuluok, everyone say what region you are in01:15
pace_t_zuluMiddle TN01:15
wrstmiddle01:15
* cyberanger is currently east tn01:15
orangeninjamiddle'01:15
Svpernova09West01:15
pace_t_zuluyeah middle o/01:15
pace_t_zuluwow its been a while since middle has outnumbered west for an election01:16
pace_t_zuluany region for that matter01:16
pace_t_zuluwell so middle can vote01:16
pace_t_zuludo we want to agree to all vote for all regions?01:17
pace_t_zuluorias: what part of TN are you in?01:17
oriaswest01:17
pace_t_zuluso we have 1 east ... 3 middle ... 2 west01:18
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: it'd be a break from precedence, however if it's agreed by everyone here, east has only three members, one is our prior leader too01:18
cyberangerwest has jfenn2199, who's been absent awhile01:18
cyberangerlinuxman410 in the east, who is around every now and then01:18
cyberangerwe kinda need more members in west and east, and afaik, east doesn't have any more to call from01:19
pace_t_zulucyberanger: yes, and he's absent now ... so he can't accept an nomination ... unless someone can point to a place in the logs where he said he would accept it by proxy01:19
cyberangerjfenn2199 & linuxman410 hadn't notified me of that, jfenn2199 was one of the people who needed the meeting time pushed back01:20
pace_t_zulucyberanger: if nominated for east tn would you accept?01:20
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: east tn can't run unless all regions are allowed to vote on an east tn leader01:21
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09 orias are either of you willing/able to be west tn point of contact for 6 months?01:21
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: um, come back to me on that, cover middle & west first, give me a chance to think01:21
Svpernova09I would be very reluctant to be a PoC due to my heavy involvement in other projects.01:22
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09 orias ^ ... till february01:22
oriasUh same01:22
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: understood01:22
pace_t_zuluorias: understood01:22
oriaswhat's involved?01:22
Svpernova09orias and I are actually heavily involved/invested in the local hackerspace01:23
pace_t_zulupoint of contact for that region01:23
cyberangerinterface with the local hackerspace, lug01:23
pace_t_zulu#MidsouthMakers ?01:23
Svpernova09Yah01:23
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: i don't see why that doesn't make you more qualified for the part01:23
cyberangerplus I'm sorta an unoffical liasion for the lugs01:24
oriasso how about the group being the point of contact?01:24
cyberangermaybe host a release party or a meeting every so often01:24
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09 orias it would have to be one of you two01:24
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09 orias ... you could host a release party at your hackerspace01:24
cyberangerbetter to have somebody aware of limits, than nobody at all01:25
oriashow often?01:25
pace_t_zulu^ that would be massive for our loco01:25
cyberangerrelease parties are 6 months apart01:25
oriasWe have a strong *nix presence01:25
pace_t_zulurelease party is every 6 months01:25
Svpernova09orias: what do you think about us doing it between the 2 of us?01:25
oriasI'd be comfortable with that01:25
cyberangerwe aim for monthly meetings too, but baby steps01:25
oriaswe meet as a hackerspace every week,01:25
cyberangernetritious & jfenn2199 tried that, worked for a long while01:26
Svpernova09orias and I see each other every week at least once. And we talk pretty much everyday01:26
cyberangerlonger than your terms01:26
Svpernova09So....01:26
pace_t_zuluand a release party is simply a party ... with ubuntu's latest release as an excuse to party01:26
oriasheh01:26
Svpernova09If we'd work together as a PoC... I think we'd do fine.01:26
* orias will print the shotglasses01:26
oriasthats cool with me01:26
cyberangerone could turn it into an installfest, but yeah, it's a party at the least01:26
Svpernova09I can even set up communications via @midsouthmakers.org email for us01:26
Svpernova09our local LUG tried an installfest recently, not sure what the turnout was01:26
* wrst thinks west tn is in good hands01:27
pace_t_zuluwouldn't be the first time we've had two PoCs in west tn ... no reason why we can't now01:27
wrstagreed pace_t_zulu01:27
cyberangerI nominate orias & Svpernova09 as a duo to run west tn01:27
oriasgolum has seemed to stall01:27
pace_t_zului second that nomination01:27
pace_t_zuluorias Svpernova09 do y'all accept the nomination?01:27
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: it worked for over 6 months, this time 6 is the max per term, love the idea01:27
oriasaye01:27
Svpernova09Sure01:27
pace_t_zulumotion to vote01:27
pace_t_zuluon west tn01:28
cyberangerI deny that motion01:28
pace_t_zuluoh01:28
pace_t_zuluok01:28
cyberangeruntil we vote on all members or each region01:28
cyberangerdue to a numbers issue for west & east tn01:28
pace_t_zulucyberanger: ┬┐por que?01:28
pace_t_zului think i missed an accent or two there01:28
* wrst is just ready to +1 something!01:29
cyberangerwe can't have the two being nominated vote themselves in, same for me in east tn (if I accept that nomination)01:29
pace_t_zulucyberanger: it doesn't get done otherwise01:29
cyberangerso we need to vote an exception to the normal rule, that all present can vote for all regions01:29
wrstcyberanger: you need that as a motion for all members to vote on all regions?01:29
pace_t_zulucyberanger: in light of the shorter terms ... i don't see a problem01:29
pace_t_zuluwrst: +101:30
wrstok I make a motion we allow all members to vote in all regions01:30
cyberangeryes, I made that motion too, but I didn't hear a second, and then west tn came up01:30
cyberangerI second01:30
pace_t_zulumotion to vote on allowing all members present at meeting to vote for all regions in tennessee01:30
wrstsecond01:30
wrstoh yeah :)01:30
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: for this meeting01:30
pace_t_zuludo we need to vote or we're good01:30
cyberangeras an exeption on the rule01:30
cyberangerwe need to hear all are acceptable, at the least01:30
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you were the one who previously denied the motion01:30
cyberangerno objections01:31
pace_t_zuluso i then retable my motion to vote on west tn point of contact01:31
cyberangerI denied the motion to vote orias & Svpernova09 since they'd be the only ones eligable to vote01:31
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i see01:31
cyberangernot the motion to extend who can vote01:31
pace_t_zululets go01:31
cyberangerok, so no objections, everyone can vote on leadership, for this meeting01:32
pace_t_zulu[vote] orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in East TN01:32
MootBotPlease vote on:  orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in East TN.01:32
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pace_t_zulu+101:32
MootBot+1 received from pace_t_zulu. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 101:32
orangeninja+101:32
MootBot+1 received from orangeninja. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 201:32
cyberangerthen I withdraw my objection to vote on our west tn duo01:32
cyberanger+101:32
MootBot+1 received from cyberanger. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 301:32
wrst+101:33
MootBot+1 received from wrst. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 401:33
orias+0/+101:33
Svpernova09+001:33
MootBotAbstention received from Svpernova09. 4 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 401:33
orias+001:33
MootBotAbstention received from orias. 4 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 401:33
pace_t_zulu[endvote]01:33
MootBotFinal result is 4 for, 0 against. 2 abstained. Total: 401:33
pace_t_zulucongrats orias and Svpernova09 ...01:33
pace_t_zului appreciate you guys stepping up01:33
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: can you put an agreed for my motion too then01:33
Svpernova09woo01:33
cyberangerfor the logs01:33
pace_t_zulu[agree] all members present at meeting are allowed to vote on point of contact for all regions in tennessee01:34
pace_t_zulu[agreed] all members present at meeting are allowed to vote on point of contact for all regions in tennessee01:34
MootBotAGREED received:  all members present at meeting are allowed to vote on point of contact for all regions in tennessee01:34
cyberangerthanks01:34
pace_t_zulu[agreed] orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in East TN01:34
MootBotAGREED received:  orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in East TN01:34
cyberangerno01:34
cyberangerwest01:34
cyberangerlol01:34
pace_t_zuluso again01:35
pace_t_zuluoops01:35
pace_t_zulusorry bout that guys01:35
pace_t_zulunice catch cyberanger01:35
pace_t_zulu[vote] orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in West TN01:35
MootBotPlease vote on:  orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in West TN.01:35
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pace_t_zulu+101:35
MootBot+1 received from pace_t_zulu. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 101:35
orias+001:35
MootBotAbstention received from orias. 1 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 101:35
Svpernova09+001:35
MootBotAbstention received from Svpernova09. 1 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 101:35
cyberanger+101:35
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pace_t_zuluwrst orangeninja ping01:36
wrst+101:36
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orangeninja+101:36
MootBot+1 received from orangeninja. 4 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 401:36
pace_t_zulu[endvote]01:36
MootBotFinal result is 4 for, 0 against. 2 abstained. Total: 401:36
pace_t_zulu[agreed] orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in West TN01:36
MootBotAGREED received:  orias and Svpernova09 share Point of Contact in West TN01:36
pace_t_zulu+1 cyberanger01:36
cyberangerwish I caught that sooner though01:36
pace_t_zulu[topic] middle tn point of contact01:37
MootBotNew Topic:  middle tn point of contact01:37
pace_t_zulucyberanger: wish i didn't type it in the first place01:37
cyberangerI draft...err nominate wrst as middle tn poc01:37
pace_t_zuluwrst: do you have interest in thise position,01:37
pace_t_zulu?01:37
wrstpace_t_zulu: interest yes, time probably not so much01:37
* cyberanger had been teasing him about it01:38
wrstwish i could but kid, moving, job etc etc i don't think i would do it justice01:38
cyberangerwrst: could you give it a try, perhaps split with pace_t_zulu ?01:38
pace_t_zuluwrst: where are you moving?01:38
wrstjust across town01:38
pace_t_zuludifferent address, same town?01:38
pace_t_zulucool01:38
cyberangerI do serously think you'd be good, one in cookeville with an active lug, one in nashville with an equally active lug01:38
cyberangerwrst: ^01:38
wrstcyberanger: would I be pace_t_zulu's humble servant yes sir01:38
pace_t_zuluhaha01:39
cyberangerwrst: co-poc?01:39
pace_t_zuluno servants round here01:39
cyberangeror just servant?01:39
wrsthowever if pace_t_zulu would like the title and i would assist anyway possible01:39
pace_t_zului'd gladly yield the title to you wrst ...01:39
cyberangerserously, at the least wrst I do think if you & pace_t_zulu split like west did this past year, and is doing so again01:40
cyberangerit'd help a huge bit in your region01:40
wrsti don't care to try that just me making many "live" appearances probably isn't going to be real likely right now for me01:40
cyberangerI tried that (unoffically) in east tn & it did work, for a time01:40
cyberangerwrst: live in nashville, cookeville, or at all01:40
pace_t_zuluorangeninja: do you have anything you'd like to say about this?01:41
wrstbe back in 501:41
orangeninjaNo I would be willing to help any way I could.01:41
pace_t_zuluwell you do have general availablility wrst ... not live - no ... but you are on top of things01:41
wrstyes and that should continue pace_t_zulu01:42
cyberangerand we've had alot of live appearances go less than expected, at this point my concern is merely online and local, to the best of eveyone's ability (I could barely get outside my own town for a year)01:42
orangeninjail help wrst and pace_t_zulu any way i can01:42
wrstjust as long as everyone knows my limitations i'm in for whatever you need me to do01:42
cyberangerwrst: is that a yes to sharing poc with pace_t_zulu then?01:43
pace_t_zuluwrst: you are one of our most active members ;)01:43
* cyberanger nominates wrst & pace_t_zulu to share middle tn poc, hopes they'll accept01:43
pace_t_zului accept01:44
pace_t_zuluwrst: ?01:44
cyberangerwrst: netritious & jfenn2199 had alot preventing each of them from doing it well, but both of them did manage to pull it off, by splitting the load01:44
cyberanger01:41:48             wrst | be back in 501:46
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: perhaps we should come back to middle?01:46
pace_t_zulu[20:42:41] <wrst> just as long as everyone knows my limitations i'm in for whatever you need me to do01:46
pace_t_zulusure01:46
cyberangerah, hrm...01:46
pace_t_zulu[idea] east tn point of contact01:46
MootBotIDEA received:  east tn point of contact01:46
pace_t_zulu[topic] east tn point of contact01:46
cyberangerhe made that vauge enough, I see that as an implied acceptance01:46
MootBotNew Topic:  east tn point of contact01:46
pace_t_zului nominate cyberanger01:47
pace_t_zuluwith full knowledge of his unpredictable future01:47
cyberangerI accept, with an additional reservation (additional to the one pace_t_zulu reminded above)01:47
pace_t_zulucyberanger: it is a 6 month term ... let's not concern ourselves with that01:48
wrstsorry but cyberangerthat's a yes :)01:48
cyberangerif somebody from further north in my region steps forward, I would like to split the duties with them01:48
pace_t_zuluok, keep that in mind let's pop back to middle tn real quick01:48
cyberangerit seems to work better, than one guy 50 miles from the rest01:48
pace_t_zulu[topic] middle tn point of contact01:48
MootBotNew Topic:  middle tn point of contact01:48
pace_t_zulumotion to vote on middle tn point of contact01:49
cyberangerI re-nominate pace_t_zulu & wrst splitting middle tn poc01:49
cyberanger& make a motion to vote as such01:49
pace_t_zuluwe have both accepted01:49
cyberanger& I make a motion to vote as such01:50
pace_t_zuluorangeninja orias Svpernova09 ... y'all ready to vote01:50
pace_t_zulu?01:50
oriasaye01:50
orangeninjayes01:50
cyberangerI'm set01:50
* wrst readies the abstain button01:50
pace_t_zuluhaha01:50
pace_t_zuluif Svpernova09 doesn't get back quick - i'm going to use the facilities01:51
pace_t_zulubrb afk01:51
* cyberanger redies the red button labeled nuclear launch in one hand, the +1 in the other, puts on a blindfold & counts to 10001:51
* cyberanger hopes he doesn't mix them up01:52
pace_t_zuluwe've got 3 nonabstaining votes here01:52
pace_t_zuluthat will pass it01:52
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: has gone afk ... no telling when he'll be back01:52
pace_t_zulu[vote]  pace_t_zulu & wrst splitting middle tn poc01:53
MootBotPlease vote on:   pace_t_zulu & wrst splitting middle tn poc.01:53
MootBotPublic votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot01:53
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pace_t_zulu+001:53
MootBotAbstention received from pace_t_zulu. 0 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 001:53
orangeninja+101:53
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cyberangernuclear launch01:53
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: ping01:53
wrst+001:53
MootBotAbstention received from wrst. 1 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 101:53
cyberanger+101:53
MootBot+1 received from cyberanger. 2 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 201:53
pace_t_zuluorias: ping01:53
pace_t_zulusweet ...01:54
pace_t_zuluthis reinforces why we are trying to move this along01:54
cyberangerideally we get at least three, but we have four votes01:54
cyberangerjust two are abstaining01:54
pace_t_zuluthe problem is technical01:55
pace_t_zulubut mathematically .... it is sort of an issue ....01:55
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yeah, wish some of this was dealt with last month, short meeting & less members at it01:55
pace_t_zuluthough it should be pointed out that the only non abstaing member from the region is a +101:56
Svpernova09SOrry, in and out01:56
Svpernova09+101:56
MootBot+1 received from Svpernova09. 3 for, 0 against. 2 have abstained. Count is now 301:56
cyberangeryeah, one regional, better than east tn01:56
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: \o/01:56
wrsti hear they have good burgers Svpernova09, never had them01:56
pace_t_zulu[endvote]01:56
MootBotFinal result is 3 for, 0 against. 2 abstained. Total: 301:56
pace_t_zulu[agreed] pace_t_zulu & wrst splitting middle tn poc01:56
* wrst hopes Svpernova09 gets the in and out burger lameness of a joke01:56
MootBotAGREED received:  pace_t_zulu & wrst splitting middle tn poc01:56
wrstthanks for the confidence guys01:57
pace_t_zuluthanks guys01:57
* wrst will try not to disappoint01:57
pace_t_zulucongrats wrst01:57
orangeninjacongrats!01:57
wrstyou too pace_t_zulu01:57
cyberangerwrst: you've earned it, over the years01:57
cyberangersame for you pace_t_zulu01:57
orangeninjaI'll help yall anyway I can guys01:57
pace_t_zulumoving along ... we need to get this done01:57
pace_t_zuluthanks guys01:57
wrstagreed pace_t_zulu :)01:57
pace_t_zulu[topic] east tn point of contact01:57
MootBotNew Topic:  east tn point of contact01:57
pace_t_zuluso i nominate cyberanger01:58
wrstagreed again pace_t_zulu01:58
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I'd like somebody from knoxville or further north to split it with, it worked better that way in the past01:58
pace_t_zulucyberanger, aforementioned concerns considered ... do you accept?01:58
oriassorry01:58
pace_t_zulucyberanger: for now you are the best point of contact we have for east tn01:58
cyberangerand yeah, until I'm compelled to resign due to a move, I do01:58
cyberangerand yeah, until I'm compelled to resign due to a move, I do accept*01:59
pace_t_zulucyberanger: 6 month term01:59
pace_t_zulubueno01:59
oriasis it too late for my +1? >_<01:59
cyberangerforwarning, I'll be luckly to get half that term01:59
pace_t_zulusorry orias ... you can do 2 +1's this time01:59
oriaslol01:59
pace_t_zulubut only one will count01:59
* wrst thinks pace_t_zulu is flaunting some bilingual goodness tonight01:59
pace_t_zulumotion to vote on east tn point of contact02:00
wrstsecond02:00
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I'm abstaining from that motion02:00
pace_t_zulu[vote]cyberanger for east tn point of contact02:00
MootBotPlease vote on: cyberanger for east tn point of contact.02:00
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pace_t_zulu+102:00
MootBot+1 received from pace_t_zulu. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 102:00
orangeninja+102:00
MootBot+1 received from orangeninja. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 202:00
cyberanger+002:00
MootBotAbstention received from cyberanger. 2 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 202:00
wrst+102:00
MootBot+1 received from wrst. 3 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 302:00
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MootBot+1 received from orias. 4 for, 0 against. 1 have abstained. Count is now 402:00
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: ping02:00
pace_t_zuluwell ... it carries anyway02:01
pace_t_zulu[endvote]02:01
MootBotFinal result is 4 for, 0 against. 1 abstained. Total: 402:01
pace_t_zulu[agreed] cyberanger for east tn point of contact02:01
MootBotAGREED received:  cyberanger for east tn point of contact02:01
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: all the other members in my region are 50 miles north in knoxville, or further, so if we can look for somebody willing to split it02:01
pace_t_zulucongrats cyberanger ... you're the right man for the job02:01
wrstyes you are02:02
pace_t_zulucyberanger: no problem02:02
wrstcyberanger02:02
orangeninjacongrats!02:02
pace_t_zuluok one last topic02:02
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I figure October is the last month at this current rate, however it's likely it'll be shorter02:02
pace_t_zulu[topic] agenda items for next meeting02:02
MootBotNew Topic:  agenda items for next meeting02:02
pace_t_zulucyberanger: we'll just play it by ear02:02
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: will do, just best to notify02:03
pace_t_zulu[link]http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/02:03
MootBotLINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/02:03
cyberangernew item, release party planning02:03
pace_t_zulucyberanger: +102:03
cyberangerthat'll give us two meetings02:03
cyberangerSept. & Oct, the release is last week of Oct. however our release party can be earlier or later02:04
pace_t_zuluit's been added02:04
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: orias orangeninja ... anything y'all would like to pencil into the agenda for next month?02:04
cyberangerright now I have an unoffical pool of ubuntu cd's, I'll see about building a more offical one for the next release party02:04
cyberangerand get some of these current ones to nlug per their request02:05
oriaswe have a mialing list correct?02:05
orangeninjapace_t_zulu: no, Nothing I can think of right now.02:05
orias*mailing02:05
pace_t_zuluorias: yes we do02:05
cyberangerorias: correct02:05
pace_t_zulucyberanger: please share info on the mailing list with the group02:05
oriaslets send something out a week, a day before to possibly get more people in irc for the meetings02:05
oriasor even in general02:05
pace_t_zulu[topic]mailing list information02:05
MootBotNew Topic: mailing list information02:05
pace_t_zuluorias: +102:06
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: can we add that idea, building an offical cd pool (since I probally won't maintain past 11.10 this unoffical one)02:06
pace_t_zuluorias: you should always feel welcome to post stuff like that02:06
oriasit'd be nice to have more activity in irc02:06
cyberangercurrently I'm maintaining our list, working on a bug that has made the daily digest feature act like a monthly one02:06
cyberangeronce this bug is fixed I'll be handing over control to pace_t_zulu (unless re requests it sooner)02:07
cyberangerfetching link02:07
pace_t_zuluorias: and Svpernova09 if you are interested in becoming admins in the group's various online presences ... let me know02:07
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I never had access to the forums, all other functions have been changed over02:07
cyberangermailing list link https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-US-TN02:08
cyberanger[link]https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-US-TN02:08
MootBotLINK received: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-US-TN02:08
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i'll look into taking responsiblity for our various online presences02:08
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: only one your not already in charge of is the forums & mailing list02:09
pace_t_zuluorias and Svpernova09 if y'all are part of our facebook and/or linkedin groups - you can have elevated privileges in those as well02:09
cyberangerI've got control of the list, fixing it for you before I hand it over (unless you want it sooner)02:09
cyberangerthe forums you'll have to ask an admin I suppose02:09
pace_t_zuluhmmm02:10
pace_t_zuluwelcome linuxman41002:10
oriaskk02:10
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I didn't know about facebook having more than one admin as a group feature02:10
linuxman410pace_t_zulu  how are ya02:11
wrstcyberanger: yeah you can have several admins on a facebook page02:11
cyberangerI'm requesting that then (I have all the others covered, forum mod aside)02:11
wrst*fan page02:11
pace_t_zuluorias and Svpernova09 we can exchange info via pm02:11
cyberangerwrst: fan page, that's a little worse in my mind, fan of what, we're a group02:11
wrstcyberanger: good point ;)02:12
* wrst is no facebook expert02:12
pace_t_zulucyberanger: we can create a group as well02:12
pace_t_zulucyberanger: but i'm a fan of our group ;)02:13
pace_t_zuluit's been a way to broadcast things on facebook02:14
pace_t_zuluit's served that purpose well02:14
pace_t_zuluanyway02:14
pace_t_zuludoes anyone else have any other agenda items?02:14
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: did you add the cd pool bit?02:15
pace_t_zulucyberanger: cd pool bit?02:15
cyberangercreate an offical cd pool for the loco02:15
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i'll make that an agenda item02:16
pace_t_zulucyberanger: you should fill out the description though ...02:16
cyberangerobtain (my case for the unoffical pool was buying them) 11.10 cd's for a loco distrubition pool02:16
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: sure, I'll do that02:16
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i'm making you the "owner" of the agenda item ;)02:17
cyberangerI have a decent sized pool of natty discs, most are allocated to nlug per a request, the remaining to OLF in ohio, as a TN-LoCo event02:17
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i've never had my hands on any pool of release discs02:18
cyberangerthis was an unoffical thing I did as a trustee, out of my pocket02:18
cyberangerI metioned it once, you missed that meeting, as did jfenn2199 & netritious02:18
pace_t_zuluok ... we'll discuss that next month ... it's on the agenda02:18
cyberangerlinuxman410 may have shown up late02:18
pace_t_zulucyberanger: apologies for missing that meeting02:18
pace_t_zulujanuary perhaps? i know i miss that one as it was my birthday02:19
cyberangerI did it cause shipit was just shut down & it was a service that helped me spread ubuntu in the areas around here02:19
linuxman410cyberanger i did show up late02:19
cyberangerwas thinking november actually02:19
pace_t_zulualright... so that's on the agenda for next month02:20
cyberangerit was closer to natty's release, but at least a month after (disc shortage)02:20
pace_t_zuluoh02:20
pace_t_zuluanyway02:20
cyberangerif we were an offical team, I wouldn't have done that02:20
pace_t_zuluanyone else have something they want to throw on the agenda for next month's (hopefully shorter meeting)02:20
cyberangerand yeah, since I bought nearly all the discs, kinda kept that restricted to releasing to each request, and not just giving them out02:21
cyberangerso I could gauge sucess02:21
cyberangerseems issue #1 was not announcing it02:21
cyberangernothing else from me, atm02:22
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i was unaware until now02:22
pace_t_zulusorry02:22
pace_t_zuluso yea, i suppose it didn't receive much attention02:22
pace_t_zuluso....02:23
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I thought I metioned it in that email I forwarded you (I know I didn't metion it more than that, three times at much)02:23
pace_t_zului'll check it out02:23
cyberangerum, motion to adjourn?02:23
orangeninjasecond02:24
orangeninjalol02:24
cyberanger#endmeeting02:25
cyberangerdarn, that's become a habit now02:25
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: #endmeeting ?02:25
orangeninjaI'll be back in about 30 minutes to an hour. If we have any other zombie patrolers out there.02:26
pace_t_zulu#endmeeting02:30
MootBotMeeting finished at 21:30.02:30
pace_t_zulusorry02:30
pace_t_zului was adding admins online02:30
Unit193He wanted to get it right on the half hour02:30
cyberangerthat's alright, we needed that too02:30
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: btw, http://tr.im/nogt is a dead link now02:32
cyberangerall of tr.im is02:32
cyberangerdo you know where that pointed?02:32
cyberangerMembers add your info http://tr.im/nogt02:32
Unit193Anyway, to make a note on not used items, it's almost as if we have 2 or even 3 LoCos because people on IRC don't watch the forums much, people on the forums don't watch the ML or IRC and people on the ML don't watch IRC or forums :/02:32
pace_t_zuluit worked out nice02:32
* cyberanger has considered making his own url shortening service, wonders if it'll work02:33
pace_t_zuluwe have forums?02:33
pace_t_zulu:D02:33
pace_t_zuluSvpernova09: ping02:33
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yeah, I'd check them if I could do something with them02:33
cyberangerit's not been loco stuff since racerraul died02:33
cyberangerhe was big on the forums & I wanted to have a meetup here in cleveland, at that time, about two years ago if I recall the forums were utilized more, becuase of him02:34
cyberangerhe'd chat on IRC, but he & binarymutatn kept our forums alive02:35
cyberangerbinarymutant had mod rights, perhaps he could create more mods for us02:35
cyberangerif he's still got that privalige02:35
Unit193pace_t_zulu: *My state is working on fixing it02:35
* cyberanger facepalms02:36
pace_t_zuluUnit193: what state is that?02:37
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: I did have another item, shortly before our last meeting (or somewhere around then, at least) some of us had considered having a wiki jam, of a different sort, helping the wiki team update documentation02:38
Unit193pace_t_zulu: Ohio, sadly, I only watch IRC and ML but my bot keeps my up with ML and Forums02:38
pace_t_zulucyberanger: feel free to add it02:38
pace_t_zuluhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/02:38
cyberangerI'll do that (just couldn't help but feel irritated with myself, forgot that twice already I think)02:39
wrstcyberanger: documentation is something that ubuntu desperately needs02:40
linuxman410cyberanger klug has not been updated since 200902:40
cyberangerwrst: you Unit193 pace_t_zulu & myself were the main four in that conversation02:40
wrstyes, after using arch you see just how bad it is with ubuntu and it shouldn't be that way02:41
Unit193pleia was also (I ducked out02:41
cyberangerand pretty much agreed (with at least you & me pointing out arch's wiki, google & blogs as being more effective, I even metioned using arch's wiki to fix ubuntu :-|)02:42
cyberangerright, bad nick tab, meant pleia202:42
wrstyeah I used arch's wiki to fix ubuntu before i used arch02:42
Unit193Forums are great02:43
cyberangerUnit193: I thought you metioned a bit too, but yeah, I do recall pleia2 arriving & you had to step out for well, life outside the optic fibre02:43
wrstUnit193: yes they are, but if i need to set up my broadcom wireless i shouldn't have to sift through a million forum threads02:43
Unit193wrst: I very much so agree, just saying that they can be great02:44
wrstyes they can be but to me the forums should be more for the oddities not the norm02:45
linuxman410wrst have you ever tried ultimate edition02:47
wrstlinuxman410: no i've seen it but never tried it02:47
wrstisn't that ubuntu with a billion things added to it?02:48
linuxman410wrst yes but they have a light version now02:48
wrstwhat desktop does it use linuxman410?02:49
linuxman410wrst lxde the light version02:49
wrstnice02:49
wrstgood night all02:56
cyberangernight wrst02:57
linuxman410cyberanger did ubuntu do a 10.04 lts 302:57
cyberangerlinuxman410: believe so02:58
cyberangeryep, they did02:58
pace_t_zuluteam iCal calendar .... http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team/ical03:03
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pace_t_zulushould we be tweeting?03:24
Unit193Or G+ing? :P03:24
* cyberanger is enough of a twit as is03:24
oriaslol03:31
orangeninjao/04:27
orias%/04:36
Unit193\@04:37
orangeninjahey guys04:38
orangeninjawhat yall up to?04:38
oriasgetting ready to crash. you?04:56
Unit193That's not good if you're in a car...04:57
orangeninjaheh, I'll be up for a few.04:58
orangeninjaIm switching between EVE Online and web surfing.04:58
Unit193I won't be up for as long as long as normal though04:58
orangeninjaMy Saturday night really. I am working Sat and Sun this week.04:59
vychuneAnybody up this mornng?09:03
cosmicpizzamorning10:10
vychuneo/10:27
twaynepricehey wrst12:13
wrsthey twayneprice how are you doing?12:13
wrstwas going to ask you about the dyson vacuum on woot yesterday :)12:14
twaynepriceDid you get one?12:14
wrstno i didn't kinda lost track of things, do you have an opinion on them?12:14
wrstmay get one next time they come around... they always come back around :)12:15
twaynepriceWe have one and it has been great.12:15
wrstok that's what i needed to hear12:15
wrstwe are needing something new and they look cool12:15
twaynepriceWe've had other bagless before and they usually stop working aft a year or so.  We've probably had this one 4 years and it is as good as new.12:16
wrstthat's good to know we will probably give one a spin12:17
twaynepriceWe got ours from woot.  :)12:18
wrstcool12:19
wrsti guess we will too12:19
vychune_hey guys12:52
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cyberangerhey Xpistos14:12
cyberangermissed a great14:12
XpistosWhat up14:13
cyberangergreat meeting*14:13
Xpistosgreat what?14:13
Xpistoslast night?14:13
cyberangeryeah14:13
XpistosDude, I was stressing over the Cowboys&Aliens Review last night14:13
vychunedamn i forgot14:13
Xpistoswhat is the url for the minutes14:13
cyberangerpace_t_zulu is trustee & sharing middle poc with wrst14:13
* Xpistos forgot14:13
Xpistoswhat?14:13
Xpistoswrst is poc for middle?14:14
cyberangerwith pace_t_zulu14:14
cyberangerlike jfenn2199 & netritious did in middle tn14:14
cyberangerand pace_t_zulu is also the trustee14:14
cyberangerwe shortened term lengths as well, they're now 6 months14:15
cyberangerlemme see if the logs are up (if not, I've got my own)14:15
cyberangerXpistos: http://sprunge.us/DRhA14:23
cyberangervychune: ^14:23
cyberangerthat's my logs, cropped to the meeting only14:23
cyberangerXpistos: orias and Svpernova09 are west tn poc, and I'm east tn14:26
cyberangerthat pretty well sums up the meeting14:26
cyberangerXpistos: Cowboys & Aliens, hrm, worth watching?14:28
XpistosI gave it a 3.514:28
vychunedang14:29
cyberangerfor comparison, Jonah hex?14:30
Xpistosbetter14:30
XpistosI gave jonah hex a 214:30
cyberangerwell, then this is a movie to catch14:32
cyberangeryou make them work for a 5 don't you?14:35
pace_t_zuluXpistos: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team14:47
pace_t_zuluXpistos: iCal Feed - http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team/ical14:47
* wrst peeks in15:02
* vychune sees him15:03
Xpistoscyberanger: Now i have some time to focus. pace_t_zulu is the head of the LOCO not basically? Is that right? and he and wrst are my capos?15:09
* wrst waves to vychune15:10
vychuneo/15:10
Xpistoscyberanger: I do make the movies work for it now. I was too free with the 5's before this one15:11
Xpistoscyberanger: we have reviewed 7 movies totall this summer15:11
XpistosThor, Priest, X-Men: First Class, Green Lantern, Transformers: Dark of the Moon,  Captain America and now Cowboys & Aliens15:12
XpistosThat is all we are planning to do, but if someone wants to do a review, then the can let us know15:12
pace_t_zuluXpistos: ^ what you were asking cyberanger ... yes15:51
pace_t_zuluXpistos: you want to update www.ubuntu-tennessee.org ?15:51
pace_t_zuluupdated the leadership page on ubuntu-tennessee.org ... http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/leadership/16:02
wrstpace_t_zulu: just added a blog post at www.ubuntu-tennessee.org that had been building up for a week or so :)16:24
Xpistospace_t_zulu: thanks16:26
wrsthowdy Xpistos16:28
Xpistoscongrats my Capo16:29
Xpistosanybody I need to Whack?16:29
wrstXpistos: capo?16:29
wrstI use that on a guitar :)16:30
XpistosCapo is short for Captain. Like a mob boss16:30
wrstor even... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caporegime16:30
* wrst = lunch16:31
pace_t_zuluwrst: nice ...16:55
pace_t_zuluwrst: blog posts are great for our group16:55
wrsthave a couple more in the ol' brain I will try to put out there16:55
pace_t_zuluwrst: let's see if we can draw more attention to it16:56
cyberangerXpistos: I'll keep that in mind17:03
Xpistoscool17:04
pace_t_zuluwrst: Xpistos cyberanger 'like' the top post (a link to wrst's blog post) ... https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ubuntu-Tennessee/13485711068017:04
XpistosIf you are interested I will give you the script (just a frame work of what we want in the show  and how to begin and end then it is all you.17:04
pace_t_zuluhave we lost mhall119? :(17:06
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: yeah, for the moment at least17:06
pace_t_zuluhe's logged in ... he isn't hanging out at here atm17:06
pace_t_zulucyberanger: i need to get info regarding ownership of ubuntu-tennesee.org, it's dns hosting and its www hosting17:38
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: ok, lemme see here17:40
vychuneo/17:52
cyberangerpace_t_zulu: see pm17:53
starsprouthowdy folks17:56
starsproutHow much would one expect to pay for a reliable hosting package for a resource-heavy, high traffic site?17:56
vychune15 a month?17:58
cyberangerresource heavy, high traffic, more than that, however could you define it a little better17:59
cyberangerthat's vauge, open to interput17:59
starsproutone of my customers on my VPS has a database heavy (he's a cartoonist) site17:59
starsproutand his traffic just jumped to over 2,000 visitors/month. this morning he had a comic published on another site and it caused overload17:59
vychunedamn18:00
starsproutmy hosting company keeps trying to sell me a dedicated server but it's 3x the cost of my VPS18:00
starsproutOR- does anyone know a good Dedicated Server provider with cPanel/WHM?18:06
starsprout:-)18:06
cyberangerstarsprout: came from another site, somebody big like reddit or dig?18:06
cyberangerreason I ask is maybe what he really needs is a CDN, http://codeen.cs.princeton.edu/18:07
wrststarsprout: i've used hostgator they have some interesting options pretty cheap but never had a high traffic situation wtih them18:13
starsproutyeah, I may as well just get another hostnine account and separate my sites more wisely :-)18:18
wrsthostgator is a very linux friendly place also18:20
starsproutregarding a CDN, do I understand I could use that to take the load off my server?18:20
cyberangerstarsprout: yes, same concept in a way to a proxy18:30
cyberangernot necessarlly simple, but I've done it & it does work, it can be cheaper18:31
cyberanger(in the case of codeen, free)18:31
oriaswhy not use a vps? How much monthly traffic?18:48
vychuneorias: i think he said he has one18:49
oriasahh18:49
* orias likes ovh18:49
vychuneovh?18:49
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wrstcyberanger, pace_t_zulu thought this was interesting: http://airurando.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/my-first-experience-of-the-ubuntu-loco-team-re-approval-process-first-of-many-i-hope/20:09
pace_t_zuluwrst: excellent link20:13
pace_t_zuluthanks20:13
wrstthought that was pretty good, pace_t_zulu just looking at stuff we are called Tennessee Team and everyone else seems to be called Ubuntu- insert location here, is that normal?20:14
pace_t_zulucyberanger wrst it would help if you guys "like" the "Ubuntu is Still a Good Distro | Ubuntu Tennessee" link i posted to Ubuntu Tennessee on Facebook .... Ubuntu is Still a Good Distro | Ubuntu Tennessee20:14
wrstahh ok i hated to like my own work pace_t_zulu but will do :)20:15
pace_t_zuluorias: vychune starsprout ^ y'all too if it isn't an inconvenience20:15
wrstpace_t_zulu: looks like i have or atleast an admin has20:15
oriasI have20:19
starsproutpace_t_zulu, I don't do facebook :-( but I do like Ubuntu :-)20:45
starsproutthx cyberanger for the CDN tip, btw. we are moving the customer off my VPS to another cheap host, but will implement a CDN system for his domain only20:46
starsprout:D20:46
starsproutthen I'm shopping for a new VPS because the one I have is a 2-year-old package and equates to a ripoff at this point20:46
cosmicpizzahi there21:52
cosmicpizzasomeone can test my ftp ?21:53
cosmicpizzaftp server21:53
cyberangerstarsprout: cool22:34
cyberangercosmicpizza: sure, however you might want to wait 8-10 hours, get some sleep22:34
cyberanger0034 there isn't it22:35
cyberanger(might actually be more like 12-14 for me to be awake too)22:35

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