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| === Topic for #ubuntu: SSDS | https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~fabbione/warty-rcbugs/ <- now with an index.html | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu): set by fabbione at Tue Jun 22 14:57:00 2004 | ||
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| rburton | afternoon all | 02:49 |
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| Keybuk | evening | 02:50 |
| jdub | welcome :) | 02:50 |
| rburton | not entirely related to warty, but if grub-install takes 5 minutes to install, is this a sign that i should just retry the install :) | 02:50 |
| seb128 | no | 02:50 |
| seb128 | rburton here | 02:50 |
| seb128 | nooooo | 02:50 |
| seb128 | :) | 02:50 |
| rburton | ross was taken looonnnng ago | 02:50 |
| Kamion | sounds like it's trying to access the floppy maybe? | 02:51 |
| seb128 | welcome rburton | 02:51 |
| Kamion | can you poke about on tty2 to find out what it's doing? | 02:51 |
| rburton | "probing bios devices this may take a long time" for 8 minutes now | 02:51 |
| rburton | grub --batch --no-floppy --device-map=/boot/gr[terminal ends] | 02:51 |
| rburton | called by grub-install --no-floppy (hd0) | 02:51 |
| Kamion | ugh, sounds like a grub expert is required | 02:52 |
| Kamion | (do we have one here? :-)) | 02:52 |
| jdub | lifeless is a bit of a grub | 02:52 |
| lifeless | ? | 02:53 |
| lifeless | wassup | 02:53 |
| lifeless | grub-install should be about 2 seconds lok. | 02:53 |
| lifeless | can cat /boot/grub/device.map | 02:54 |
| rburton | (hd0) /dev/hda | 02:57 |
| rburton | this is in d-i still, so /target/boot/ of course | 02:57 |
| lifeless | well, that looks about right. | 03:00 |
| lifeless | anything in dmesg ? | 03:00 |
| Kamion | (tty4) | 03:00 |
| rburton | tty4 just says info: grub things | 03:01 |
| rburton | dmesg has ntfs/reiserfs warnings about the device not being what it expects | 03:01 |
| rburton | aaaah | 03:02 |
| jdub | edd will turn up here soon too, btw | 03:02 |
| rburton | i ran grub-install myself in strace and it appears to be looping on a cp | 03:02 |
| seb128 | jdub: should we rename this chan #gnome-hackers ? :) | 03:02 |
| jdub | heh | 03:02 |
| rburton | it stat64's cp, clones and then gets sigchld | 03:03 |
| rburton | right, waitpid(-1) is blocking | 03:03 |
| === rburton considers rebooting and trying again | ||
| === Kamion considers strace-udeb | ||
| rburton | i'm surprised strace is on this iso | 03:04 |
| Kamion | it'll just be a .deb, not a .udeb | 03:04 |
| Kamion | strace is in our base system | 03:04 |
| rburton | yeah, i just realised that | 03:04 |
| Kamion | you might be able to unpack and use it though ... | 03:04 |
| Kamion | udpkg -i might even be able to manage it | 03:04 |
| rburton | rebooting to try again :) | 03:05 |
| rburton | interesting | 03:09 |
| rburton | grub-install worked with / being ext3, failed when it was xfs | 03:10 |
| rburton | i thought d-i installed the relevant kernel for your machine. i have a p4 and its installed the 386 kernel | 03:11 |
| rburton | holy crap a lot of stuff gets installed by default :) | 03:13 |
| rburton | YOU ARE INSTALLING VIM ON A BOX OF MINE | 03:13 |
| rburton | ;) | 03:13 |
| Kamion | yes, grub needs to be updated to do special things with xfs | 03:13 |
| jdub | rburton: more like osx than debian ;) | 03:13 |
| rburton | as long as i can prune it again without some meta-package getting in the way i'm okay | 03:14 |
| jdub | yeah, you can | 03:14 |
| Kamion | should be fine, we don't generally use metapackages for installation | 03:14 |
| Keybuk | is just a task that gets installed, isn't it? | 03:14 |
| rburton | i wonder why i pressed http instead of cdrom... | 03:14 |
| rburton | curses | 03:14 |
| Kamion | aptitude -y install '~tdesktop | 03:14 |
| Kamion | ' | 03:14 |
| === rburton wonders what is using python-musicbrainz | ||
| jdub | rburton: we have a selection of python modules available for great justice (and python development) | 03:17 |
| Keybuk | and because Python gives Mark a woody | 03:17 |
| lifeless | out two main weapons... | 03:17 |
| jdub | Keybuk: i'm not sure if we're meant to talk about that publically yet. | 03:18 |
| Keybuk | jdub: and I thought we were a "pants off" kind of company ... :p | 03:18 |
| jdub | heh | 03:18 |
| Kamion | Keybuk: I thought it gave him a warty | 03:19 |
| Keybuk | *groans* warty where you thinking of, that's terrible | 03:19 |
| rburton | the X keyboard layout debconf thing should give gb as an example for england as i can never remember what the code is | 03:19 |
| Kamion | ya, I think that went into a recent upload somewhere, but I don't remember whether it was unstable or warty | 03:20 |
| Keybuk | rburton: that's going to die MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!*cough*splutter* | 03:20 |
| rburton | really. | 03:20 |
| rburton | is OO.o on the CD? | 03:21 |
| rburton | awww diveintopython is on | 03:21 |
| === rburton must count the RossQuotient of warty | ||
| jdub | we removed sound-juicer because it lacks quality control | 03:23 |
| jdub | ;-) | 03:23 |
| rburton | haha | 03:23 |
| rburton | i've been sent a patch to make it use the g-m profiles | 03:23 |
| rburton | must review that at some point | 03:23 |
| jdub | rad | 03:23 |
| rburton | xpdf? | 03:24 |
| jdub | gpdf still has type3 font support issues | 03:24 |
| rburton | yay, millions of parse errors from scrollkeeper | 03:24 |
| rburton | jdub, 2.8 is fixing them iirc | 03:24 |
| jdub | not type3 | 03:24 |
| jdub | it fixed OOo and locale stuff | 03:24 |
| rburton | ah balls | 03:25 |
| jdub | not sure type3 will make it | 03:25 |
| jdub | if it does, we'll switch though | 03:25 |
| seb128 | no search feature neither | 03:25 |
| jdub | oh yeah, and seb wants search ;) | 03:25 |
| rburton | hm, postfix | 03:28 |
| rburton | hm | 03:28 |
| rburton | yay X mis-detected by vga card | 03:29 |
| rburton | shouldn't X by default read fonts from the deforma paths? | 03:30 |
| Kamion | rburton: OOo should be there and installed by default, yes | 03:33 |
| Kamion | the scrollkeeper bugs are being fixed but not quite there yet ... | 03:33 |
| rburton | gar, X isn't starting | 03:34 |
| rburton | nv supports the geforce4mx, right? | 03:34 |
| rburton | i'm getting garbage :( | 03:34 |
| rburton | may i request nvidia modules for the default kernel? | 03:35 |
| jdub | we're going to have some proprietary drivers, nvidia is on the list | 03:36 |
| === jdub goes - have fun! | ||
| rburton | arsing arse arse | 03:43 |
| rburton | has anyone got nvidia drivers for 2.6.7 to hand? :/ | 03:43 |
| === rburton misses nullmailer | ||
| rburton | from a $CORP perspective, nullmailer is very useful for desktops | 03:47 |
| Kamion | is it in universe? | 03:47 |
| rburton | dunno yet, i'm still battling X | 03:47 |
| Kamion | nullmailer | 1.00RC7-21 | warty/universe | amd64, i386, powerpc, source | 03:48 |
| rburton | ah i'll add that in a bit then | 03:49 |
| Kamion | oops, debootstrapping onto a nodev-mounted partition doesn't work very well | 03:49 |
| rburton | cursed X | 03:52 |
| rburton | huzzah | 03:54 |
| rburton | am i going mad or is nis not part of the base package set? | 03:55 |
| Kamion | it's not; it seems to be only in universe | 03:56 |
| Kamion | we might want to reconsider that | 03:56 |
| rburton | i'd say so | 03:56 |
| Kamion | it's not in blacklist.security or anything, so it might be just an oversight | 03:57 |
| rburton | whats the sources line for universe? | 03:58 |
| Kamion | deb http://ftp.no-name-yet.com/no-name-yet warty universe | 03:58 |
| rburton | ah of course | 03:59 |
| Kamion | (very untested; if it breaks you get to keep both pieces) | 03:59 |
| Kamion | I'd suggest pinning to get only individual packages from there | 03:59 |
| rburton | bug! | 04:00 |
| rburton | hostname is "sadok" but /etc/hosts still says debian | 04:00 |
| Kamion | hm, did you tell d-i that hostname in the first stage? | 04:01 |
| rburton | yeah, pretty sure | 04:01 |
| Kamion | if (verify_hostname(client->value) != 0) | 04:02 |
| Kamion | { | 04:02 |
| Kamion | debconf_subst(client, "netcfg/invalid_hostname", | 04:02 |
| Kamion | "hostname", client->value); | 04:02 |
| Kamion | debconf_input(client, "high", "netcfg/invalid_hostname"); | 04:02 |
| Kamion | debconf_go(client); | 04:02 |
| Kamion | debconf_set(client, template, "debian"); | 04:02 |
| Kamion | } | 04:02 |
| Kamion | I wonder if verify_hostname failed on whatever you set for some reason | 04:02 |
| Kamion | I think that template should perhaps be asked at priority critical, not high | 04:02 |
| Kamion | ah, did you enter a FQDN at the hostname prompt? | 04:03 |
| rburton | er, no | 04:03 |
| rburton | just sadok iirc | 04:03 |
| Kamion | hm | 04:03 |
| Kamion | hm, it allows . anyway | 04:04 |
| rburton | "nfs warning: mount older than kernel" | 04:07 |
| rburton | not seen that before | 04:07 |
| rburton | hm, X suffers from the stick alt key bug for me | 04:16 |
| === Kamion is trying to figure out what will happen if I debconf_set() a question and then ask it at priority critical | ||
| rburton | b | 04:27 |
| rburton | seb128, you might want to know that thinice in warty is buggy compared to that in sid | 04:53 |
| seb128 | what's the problem ? | 04:53 |
| rburton | no arrows :( | 04:53 |
| rburton | i.e. sort direction in evo mailer | 04:53 |
| seb128 | sort direction ? | 04:55 |
| seb128 | all looks fine with it here | 04:56 |
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| rburton | no, really bust here | 04:59 |
| rburton | works with the default engine, not with thinice | 04:59 |
| === rburton is very happy with Warty | ||
| seb128 | :)) | 05:15 |
| Keybuk | :p | 05:16 |
| seb128 | rburton: and apparently GNOME is suddently almost perfect (out of the thinice problem), nobody report bugs :-P | 05:17 |
| rburton | well of course ;) | 05:18 |
| rburton | apart from ephy using gestures by default and crashing that is | 05:19 |
| Keybuk | that's so when it crashes you can use appropriate gestures | 05:19 |
| seb128 | rburton: I don't get your question, where do you want to paste ? | 05:23 |
| seb128 | middle clicking in a text entry make a paste here | 05:23 |
| rburton | paste in the window | 05:23 |
| rburton | looks like the ephy schemas were not installed, none of them are registered in gconf-editor | 05:24 |
| seb128 | weird | 05:24 |
| rburton | yeah | 05:24 |
| seb128 | could you check the /var/lib/dpkg/info/epiphany.postinst ? | 05:24 |
| seb128 | this version should have the sighup change | 05:25 |
| rburton | no gconf code at all | 05:25 |
| rburton | should i file a bug? :) | 05:26 |
| seb128 | oh right | 05:26 |
| seb128 | no, that's fine | 05:26 |
| seb128 | I'll look on it now | 05:26 |
| seb128 | when I say than nobody report bugs ... | 05:26 |
| seb128 | thanks rburton :) | 05:26 |
| rburton | ...its as everyone just pokes you instead | 05:26 |
| seb128 | no, almost nobody pokes me neither | 05:27 |
| rburton | well i've given you two bugs so far :) | 05:27 |
| seb128 | yeah :) | 05:27 |
| rburton | third -- the clear recent documents icon in the panel is *fowl* | 05:27 |
| rburton | and the panel doesn't like against eds which is very sad | 05:28 |
| seb128 | like/link ? | 05:28 |
| rburton | ha, yes | 05:28 |
| Kamion | fowl -> foul too :-) | 05:31 |
| rburton | oh god yes | 05:32 |
| rburton | what is up with my typing today :) | 05:32 |
| rburton | is there a bug tracker i can file bugs in? | 05:44 |
| seb128 | yes, we have a bugzilla, hold on | 05:45 |
| rburton | i presume all bugs related to desktop integration are welcome? | 05:45 |
| seb128 | all bugs are welcome | 05:46 |
| seb128 | https://bugzilla.no-name-yet.com/ | 05:47 |
| rburton | ta | 05:49 |
| rburton | seb128: can i file the panel not linking to eds? :) | 05:50 |
| seb128 | already fixed | 05:51 |
| rburton | cool | 05:51 |
| seb128 | it's building | 05:51 |
| rburton | sticky alt key? | 05:51 |
| seb128 | should be available until an hour | 05:51 |
| seb128 | what about the alt key ? | 05:51 |
| rburton | when i alt-tab to a workspace, the switching popup doesn't go when i let go of alt | 05:52 |
| rburton | is there a component for bugs which don't fit into a package? | 05:52 |
| rburton | i.e. "nis should be in main" | 05:52 |
| seb128 | good question | 05:52 |
| seb128 | rburton: are you using alt ? or the windows key ? | 05:54 |
| rburton | windows | 05:54 |
| seb128 | ok, so that's it | 05:54 |
| rburton | (my mistake, i didn't mean alt) | 05:54 |
| rburton | known? | 05:54 |
| seb128 | yes | 05:54 |
| seb128 | Overfiend has tagged it + help IIRC | 05:54 |
| rburton | eww | 05:54 |
| rburton | works in sid btw | 05:55 |
| seb128 | weird | 05:55 |
| rburton | (on another machine, but the same config) | 05:55 |
| rburton | no component for gnome-themes btw | 05:55 |
| seb128 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256706 | 05:56 |
| Keybuk | doesn't work in sid for me :-( | 05:56 |
| === Keybuk has xlibs on permanent hold | ||
| seb128 | rburton: wait for the gnome-themes, component will be added | 05:57 |
| rburton | righto, time to go. seeya'll tomorrow | 05:58 |
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