=== wartylog [~warthylog@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === Topic for #ubuntu: SSDS | https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~fabbione/warty-rcbugs/ <- now with an index.html === Topic (#ubuntu): set by fabbione at Tue Jun 22 14:57:00 2004 === Keybuk [~scott@host217-37-231-23.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-2-12.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-16-123.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === rburton [~ross@82-44-126-41.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] afternoon all [02:50] evening [02:50] welcome :) [02:50] not entirely related to warty, but if grub-install takes 5 minutes to install, is this a sign that i should just retry the install :) [02:50] no [02:50] rburton here [02:50] nooooo [02:50] :) [02:50] ross was taken looonnnng ago [02:51] sounds like it's trying to access the floppy maybe? [02:51] welcome rburton [02:51] can you poke about on tty2 to find out what it's doing? [02:51] "probing bios devices this may take a long time" for 8 minutes now [02:51] grub --batch --no-floppy --device-map=/boot/gr[terminal ends] [02:51] called by grub-install --no-floppy (hd0) [02:52] ugh, sounds like a grub expert is required [02:52] (do we have one here? :-)) [02:52] lifeless is a bit of a grub [02:53] ? [02:53] wassup [02:53] grub-install should be about 2 seconds lok. [02:54] can cat /boot/grub/device.map [02:57] (hd0) /dev/hda [02:57] this is in d-i still, so /target/boot/ of course [03:00] well, that looks about right. [03:00] anything in dmesg ? [03:00] (tty4) [03:01] tty4 just says info: grub things [03:01] dmesg has ntfs/reiserfs warnings about the device not being what it expects [03:02] aaaah [03:02] edd will turn up here soon too, btw [03:02] i ran grub-install myself in strace and it appears to be looping on a cp [03:02] jdub: should we rename this chan #gnome-hackers ? :) [03:02] heh [03:03] it stat64's cp, clones and then gets sigchld [03:03] right, waitpid(-1) is blocking === rburton considers rebooting and trying again === Kamion considers strace-udeb [03:04] i'm surprised strace is on this iso [03:04] it'll just be a .deb, not a .udeb [03:04] strace is in our base system [03:04] yeah, i just realised that [03:04] you might be able to unpack and use it though ... [03:04] udpkg -i might even be able to manage it [03:05] rebooting to try again :) [03:09] interesting [03:10] grub-install worked with / being ext3, failed when it was xfs [03:11] i thought d-i installed the relevant kernel for your machine. i have a p4 and its installed the 386 kernel [03:13] holy crap a lot of stuff gets installed by default :) [03:13] YOU ARE INSTALLING VIM ON A BOX OF MINE [03:13] ;) [03:13] yes, grub needs to be updated to do special things with xfs [03:13] rburton: more like osx than debian ;) [03:14] as long as i can prune it again without some meta-package getting in the way i'm okay [03:14] yeah, you can [03:14] should be fine, we don't generally use metapackages for installation [03:14] is just a task that gets installed, isn't it? [03:14] i wonder why i pressed http instead of cdrom... [03:14] curses [03:14] aptitude -y install '~tdesktop [03:14] ' === rburton wonders what is using python-musicbrainz [03:17] rburton: we have a selection of python modules available for great justice (and python development) [03:17] and because Python gives Mark a woody [03:17] out two main weapons... [03:18] Keybuk: i'm not sure if we're meant to talk about that publically yet. [03:18] jdub: and I thought we were a "pants off" kind of company ... :p [03:18] heh [03:19] Keybuk: I thought it gave him a warty [03:19] *groans* warty where you thinking of, that's terrible [03:19] the X keyboard layout debconf thing should give gb as an example for england as i can never remember what the code is [03:20] ya, I think that went into a recent upload somewhere, but I don't remember whether it was unstable or warty [03:20] rburton: that's going to die MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!*cough*splutter* [03:20] really. [03:21] is OO.o on the CD? [03:21] awww diveintopython is on === rburton must count the RossQuotient of warty [03:23] we removed sound-juicer because it lacks quality control [03:23] ;-) [03:23] haha [03:23] i've been sent a patch to make it use the g-m profiles [03:23] must review that at some point [03:23] rad [03:24] xpdf? [03:24] gpdf still has type3 font support issues [03:24] yay, millions of parse errors from scrollkeeper [03:24] jdub, 2.8 is fixing them iirc [03:24] not type3 [03:24] it fixed OOo and locale stuff [03:25] ah balls [03:25] not sure type3 will make it [03:25] if it does, we'll switch though [03:25] no search feature neither [03:25] oh yeah, and seb wants search ;) [03:28] hm, postfix [03:28] hm [03:29] yay X mis-detected by vga card [03:30] shouldn't X by default read fonts from the deforma paths? [03:33] rburton: OOo should be there and installed by default, yes [03:33] the scrollkeeper bugs are being fixed but not quite there yet ... [03:34] gar, X isn't starting [03:34] nv supports the geforce4mx, right? [03:34] i'm getting garbage :( [03:35] may i request nvidia modules for the default kernel? [03:36] we're going to have some proprietary drivers, nvidia is on the list === jdub goes - have fun! [03:43] arsing arse arse [03:43] has anyone got nvidia drivers for 2.6.7 to hand? :/ === rburton misses nullmailer [03:47] from a $CORP perspective, nullmailer is very useful for desktops [03:47] is it in universe? [03:47] dunno yet, i'm still battling X [03:48] nullmailer | 1.00RC7-21 | warty/universe | amd64, i386, powerpc, source [03:49] ah i'll add that in a bit then [03:49] oops, debootstrapping onto a nodev-mounted partition doesn't work very well [03:52] cursed X [03:54] huzzah [03:55] am i going mad or is nis not part of the base package set? [03:56] it's not; it seems to be only in universe [03:56] we might want to reconsider that [03:56] i'd say so [03:57] it's not in blacklist.security or anything, so it might be just an oversight [03:58] whats the sources line for universe? [03:58] deb http://ftp.no-name-yet.com/no-name-yet warty universe [03:59] ah of course [03:59] (very untested; if it breaks you get to keep both pieces) [03:59] I'd suggest pinning to get only individual packages from there [04:00] bug! [04:00] hostname is "sadok" but /etc/hosts still says debian [04:01] hm, did you tell d-i that hostname in the first stage? [04:01] yeah, pretty sure [04:02] if (verify_hostname(client->value) != 0) [04:02] { [04:02] debconf_subst(client, "netcfg/invalid_hostname", [04:02] "hostname", client->value); [04:02] debconf_input(client, "high", "netcfg/invalid_hostname"); [04:02] debconf_go(client); [04:02] debconf_set(client, template, "debian"); [04:02] } [04:02] I wonder if verify_hostname failed on whatever you set for some reason [04:02] I think that template should perhaps be asked at priority critical, not high [04:03] ah, did you enter a FQDN at the hostname prompt? [04:03] er, no [04:03] just sadok iirc [04:03] hm [04:04] hm, it allows . anyway [04:07] "nfs warning: mount older than kernel" [04:07] not seen that before [04:16] hm, X suffers from the stick alt key bug for me === Kamion is trying to figure out what will happen if I debconf_set() a question and then ask it at priority critical [04:27] b [04:53] seb128, you might want to know that thinice in warty is buggy compared to that in sid [04:53] what's the problem ? [04:53] no arrows :( [04:53] i.e. sort direction in evo mailer [04:55] sort direction ? [04:56] all looks fine with it here === rburton2 [~ross@82-44-126-41.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === rburton2 is now known as rburton [04:59] no, really bust here [04:59] works with the default engine, not with thinice === rburton is very happy with Warty [05:15] :)) [05:16] :p [05:17] rburton: and apparently GNOME is suddently almost perfect (out of the thinice problem), nobody report bugs :-P [05:18] well of course ;) [05:19] apart from ephy using gestures by default and crashing that is [05:19] that's so when it crashes you can use appropriate gestures [05:23] rburton: I don't get your question, where do you want to paste ? [05:23] middle clicking in a text entry make a paste here [05:23] paste in the window [05:24] looks like the ephy schemas were not installed, none of them are registered in gconf-editor [05:24] weird [05:24] yeah [05:24] could you check the /var/lib/dpkg/info/epiphany.postinst ? [05:25] this version should have the sighup change [05:25] no gconf code at all [05:26] should i file a bug? :) [05:26] oh right [05:26] no, that's fine [05:26] I'll look on it now [05:26] when I say than nobody report bugs ... [05:26] thanks rburton :) [05:26] ...its as everyone just pokes you instead [05:27] no, almost nobody pokes me neither [05:27] well i've given you two bugs so far :) [05:27] yeah :) [05:27] third -- the clear recent documents icon in the panel is *fowl* [05:28] and the panel doesn't like against eds which is very sad [05:28] like/link ? [05:28] ha, yes [05:31] fowl -> foul too :-) [05:32] oh god yes [05:32] what is up with my typing today :) [05:44] is there a bug tracker i can file bugs in? [05:45] yes, we have a bugzilla, hold on [05:45] i presume all bugs related to desktop integration are welcome? [05:46] all bugs are welcome [05:47] https://bugzilla.no-name-yet.com/ [05:49] ta [05:50] seb128: can i file the panel not linking to eds? :) [05:51] already fixed [05:51] cool [05:51] it's building [05:51] sticky alt key? [05:51] should be available until an hour [05:51] what about the alt key ? [05:52] when i alt-tab to a workspace, the switching popup doesn't go when i let go of alt [05:52] is there a component for bugs which don't fit into a package? [05:52] i.e. "nis should be in main" [05:52] good question [05:54] rburton: are you using alt ? or the windows key ? [05:54] windows [05:54] ok, so that's it [05:54] (my mistake, i didn't mean alt) [05:54] known? [05:54] yes [05:54] Overfiend has tagged it + help IIRC [05:54] eww [05:55] works in sid btw [05:55] weird [05:55] (on another machine, but the same config) [05:55] no component for gnome-themes btw [05:56] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=256706 [05:56] doesn't work in sid for me :-( === Keybuk has xlibs on permanent hold [05:57] rburton: wait for the gnome-themes, component will be added [05:58] righto, time to go. seeya'll tomorrow === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu