[10:13] <rburton> so it appears that nfs-common isn't installed by default, which breaks a fair bit
[10:50] <seb128> morning
[12:19] <rburton> so as a user of the preview, is there a list i can mail?
[12:21] <seb128> apparently not yet ...
[12:22] <rburton> i've some issues which don't relate to bug components
[12:25] <seb128> hum, just mail me if you want
[12:25] <seb128> I'll follow the mail on the internal list
[12:25] <rburton> ok
[12:26] <rburton> seb128@debian.org, right?
[12:26] <seb128> yes
[01:19] <Kamion> rburton: use UNKNOWN in cases where a bug component doesn't exist
[01:20] <Kamion> does nfs-common need to be installed by default?
[01:22] <rburton> ah didn't spot that component
[01:22] <rburton> damn non-case-senstive sort
[01:22] <rburton> i'd say so -- it's a small package but essential for nfs
[01:25] <Kamion> yeah, but nfs isn't installed by default either is it?
[01:25] <Kamion> it's only in Supported ...
[01:27] <rburton> the kernel nfs client just worked for me
[01:32] <bob2> seb128: gnome-settings-daemon is working!
[01:33] <seb128> bob2: Kamion has fixed it
[01:33] <bob2> Kamion: thanks a lot!
[01:34] <bob2> ahh
[01:42] <Kamion> bob2: you're welcome
[01:42] <Kamion> 2.7.0-0ubuntu3
[01:47] <seb128> pfiou
[01:47] <seb128> I was fearing a "GIVE ME XEMACS" bug :)
[01:48] <rburton> i'm being good and at least trying emacs
[01:48] <seb128> he he :)
[01:49] <rburton> anyway xemacs is in universe if i give in :)
[01:49] <rburton> ephy still annoys me though
[01:49] <seb128> what's the problem ?
[01:50] <rburton> i miss middle-click on the New Tab button to open a new tab on the url
[01:50] <rburton> and it forces me to sort out my bookmarks
[01:50] <seb128> I don't understand this middle click stuff
[01:50] <seb128> middle click on a link ? it opens the link in a tab ... 
[01:51] <rburton> no, copy a url in evo and middle click on the New Tab button
[01:51] <rburton> (try that in galeon)
[01:51] <rburton> it opens a new tab and goes to the url you copied
[01:51] <rburton> ditto for inside a window and on new window button
[01:53] <seb128> oh ok
[01:53] <seb128> I didn't know about this
[01:53] <seb128> usually I ctrl+t and paste it
[01:53] <rburton> thats a wasted 0.2 seconds ;)
[01:54] <rburton> i feel lunch coming on.  i may install xemacs when i get back :)
[02:57] <rburton> seb128: i just restarted X and now nautilus won't show the desktop :(
[02:58] <seb128> arg
[02:58] <seb128> does it start ?
[02:59] <rburton> yeah, hangs it appears
[02:59] <rburton> gnome-background-properties is hanging too
[02:59] <seb128> ie: if you run "nautilus" in a xterm what happens ?
[02:59] <rburton> nothing interesting whatsoever
[02:59] <seb128> ps ax | grep hald ?
[03:00] <rburton> i just straced it, its blocking on a futex
[03:00] <rburton> hald is running
[03:00] <seb128> hum
[03:00] <seb128> the only time it was hanging here is was because of hald not running ...
[03:01] <rburton> hm, its blocking just after connecting to orbit
[03:02] <rburton> restart time
[03:08] <rburton> seb128: hal isn't starting :(
[03:09] <seb128> arg
[03:09] <seb128> any error ?
[03:09] <seb128> /usr/sbin/hald works ?
[03:12] <seb128> rburton: do you think we have any interest to have hal support turned on in gnome-vfs at this point ? It increases the sources of problems for no real benefit imho ...
[03:13] <rburton> i've not really used it, but it seems to be a bit broken still
[03:15] <rburton> yay, i've 4 hald processes in D state
[03:15] <rburton> ooh tasks in the panel. coool
[03:16] <seb128> :)
[03:16] <seb128> please report the hald problem
[03:16] <seb128> I'll turn off the hal support in the next upload, we don't really need it and it'll be more safe
[03:23] <rburton> where does hald log?
[03:27] <seb128> good question, I don't know ...
[03:29] <rburton> ah, messages
[03:29] <rburton> nothing useful there
[03:29] <rburton> i feel a reboot coming on
[03:30] <rburton>  3355 ?        Ds     0:00 /usr/sbin/hald
[03:30] <rburton> ah, session leader
[03:46] <edd> hi. fancy an installer bug report?
[03:46] <seb128> hey edd
[03:46] <seb128> all the bug reports are welcome
[03:47] <seb128> -> https://bugzilla.no-name-yet.com/
[03:47] <edd> excellent
[03:47] <edd> i get an oops when booting the installer kernel :)
[03:48] <seb128> outch
[03:48] <seb128> Kamion: do you know about this problem ?
[03:48] <Kamion> seb128: no
[05:18] <rburton> seb128: is it a known bug that g-s-t doesn't know what distribution its running on?
[05:18] <seb128> yes
[05:19] <seb128> #461
[05:19] <seb128> I've a quick fix ready that map warty as a debian
[05:21] <edd> whee. you guys totally rock. i'm very happy with what i'm seeing!
[05:22] <seb128> thanks :)
[05:22] <seb128> I've commented on your bug report about epiphany
[05:22] <edd> only one thing that seemed serious omission: no modem/ppp configuration?
[05:22] <seb128> I think it's the schema registration problem ... which version of the package did you get ?
[05:23] <seb128> no sure about the modem/ppp
[05:23] <rburton> gnome-terminal -e pppconfig?
[05:23] <edd> ah  yeah, i had 0ubuntu1
[05:24] <seb128> ok, so probably due to the schema missing
[05:25] <edd> just one question. my install left me with only the cdrom sources in apt/sources; should it have put http ones in there too?
[05:27] <seb128> that's the normal result ... but perhaps it could be nice to have an http one too
[05:27] <edd> i was just thinking that there was no way for me to make sure i had the latest packages before sending you a bug report, otherwise
[05:27] <seb128> BTW apt-setup to get it :)
[05:27] <seb128> yes
[05:27] <seb128> Kamion: we should have a http entry in the defaut sources.list ?
[05:28] <Kamion> no, the system should work without access to the network
[05:28] <seb128> at least commented ?
[05:28] <seb128> so people don't have to find it
[05:28] <seb128> yes, apt-setup do it ... :)
[05:28] <Kamion> ask fabio :-)
[05:35] <edd> it would be nice to get meeks' file selector patch into the openoffice
[05:37] <edd> anyway, it's friday afternoon and you guys are busy. i'm enjoying what i see so far. thanks!