[12:00] <bdale> ... with no hard disk ... easily fixed
[12:03] <bdale> ... and missing a cable from motherboard to the DVD reader ...
[12:08] <Keybuk> lol
[01:56] <bdale> live cd boots ok on a Via Nehemiah ITX board with 512meg RAM and no hard disk
[01:58] <jdub> cool
[02:00] <jdub> keeping your long-term storage devices safe from it so far? ;-)
[06:11] <whiprush> anyone awake?
[06:40] <dieman> going to sleep soon
[10:51] <jdub> morning
[10:52] <seb128> hello jdub
[11:11] <Oskuro> hola
[11:13] <seb128> hey Oskuro
[11:18] <Oskuro> It feels great to sleep until 11 :D
[11:24] <seb128> shut up :p
[11:24] <jdub> haha
[11:31] <Oskuro> heh heh heh
[11:31] <Oskuro> sorry guys :D
[11:32] <Oskuro> just one day left!
[11:32] <seb128> 2
[11:33] <Oskuro> well, 1 of getting up early.
[11:33] <Oskuro> Friday/Sat is supossed to be fun
[11:33] <Oskuro> unless you go to France early Saturday :P
[11:36] <seb128> yes I do :(
[11:36] <seb128> I've to leaver around 7am
[11:37] <seb128> -r
[11:37] <jdub> seb128: ross is here
[11:37] <seb128> I've seen dude
[11:37] <jdub> oh
[11:37] <seb128> the room is not *that* huge :)
[11:37] <jdub> i am slow :)
[11:37] <jdub> haha, thought you were in wootton#
[11:37] <seb128> jdub, you need to go out of the sleepy mode dude
[11:37] <Keybuk> jdub: you need new glasses
[11:38] <Oskuro> jdub: damn it...
[11:38] <Oskuro> jdub: can you tell the bastard that he should have come on tuesday?
[11:39] <seb128> Oskuro, in fact jdub said him that today was a good day to come
[11:39] <jdub> yeh ;)
[11:39] <jdub> shush!
[11:39] <Oskuro> feeeh!
[11:39] <Oskuro> anyway... ross: hello dude. :)
[11:40] <jdub> ross says hi
[11:40] <Oskuro> see, it's not exciting at all via a second person via IRC
[12:03] <rburton> cursed freenode
[12:04] <Keybuk> *waves*
[12:19] <rburton> Oskuro, dude, you went home!
[12:19] <Oskuro> rburton: dude, yex
[12:19] <Oskuro> I mean yes
[12:19] <Oskuro> you could have come like 24h before
[12:19] <Oskuro> Is carlos anywhere near?
[12:19] <Oskuro> I need him to tell me a phone number
[12:22] <seb128> he's only on jabber ...
[12:22] <seb128> s/only/online/
[12:22] <Oskuro> k
[01:39] <rburton> Keybuk: so, what is HCT?
[01:40] <seb128> damned screen
[01:41] <rburton> seb128, get a decent laptop
[01:41] <rburton> join the ThinkPadGang
[01:42] <seb128> I'll get a laptop yeah
[01:42] <seb128> this one is an old pII366 from a friend
[01:42] <rburton> rock on
[01:42] <seb128> yeah
[01:43] <seb128> fear the openoffice.org build :)
[01:43] <rburton> rofl
[01:43] <rburton> oo.o takes 18 hours on ppc you know
[01:43] <seb128> yeah, I don't even try this one
[01:53] <Keybuk> rburton: the Hypothetical Changeset Tool; I'll explain it after lunch if you want
[01:53] <rburton> hypothetical? heh
[01:53] <rburton> sure great
[01:53] <rburton> what is the deal for food here?
[01:53] <Keybuk> buffet for lunch in 7 minutes
[01:53] <rburton> rock
[01:54] <rburton> $ apm
[01:54] <rburton> Off-line, battery status high: 2% (0:03:00)
[01:54] <rburton> just in time
[01:54] <seb128> rburton, plug my laptop off if you want
[01:54] <seb128> I've my battery full
[01:54] <rburton> my charger is across the room
[01:54] <seb128> oh ok
[01:57] <npmccallum> are sounders suppossed to join this channel?  or is "ubuntu" still under wraps?
[02:55] <bdale> installation completed on the ITX system.  once it told me I should be ready to log in, it looked like maybe X was going to start, then I got faced with about 5 dialog boxes with unintelligible text.  hit enter to take defaults on all of them, now I'm back at a text login prompt.  le huh?
[02:59] <jdub> bdale: hrm, those are the "gdm/x did not start" dialogues
[03:01] <jdub> bdale: utf-8 problems with dialog
[03:01] <jdub> (most likely)
[03:03] <fabbione> only gdm
[03:04] <fabbione> X doesn't display any dialog that it cannot start
[03:04] <fabbione> it just doesn't
[03:04] <fabbione> bdale can you investigate why X didn't start?
[03:33] <whiprush> I just had the same problem as bdale yesterday
[03:34] <whiprush> I had to manually add my driver to the XF86Config
[03:35] <whiprush> I had the same garbled text dialogs also.
[03:35] <fabbione> whiprush: which driver was written in the config file?
[03:35] <fabbione> apm?
[03:35] <whiprush> The entire line was missing.
[03:35] <fabbione> ah
[03:35] <whiprush> iirc.
[03:35] <whiprush> Lemme check the backup.
[03:35] <fabbione> yes thanks
[03:36] <whiprush> yep, you're correct, apm.
[03:36] <fabbione> ok which version of X are you running?
[03:37] <whiprush> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu4
[03:37] <whiprush> that's my xserver-xfree86
[03:37] <fabbione> ok.. it is already fixed in ubutu5
[03:37] <fabbione> known bug :-)
[03:37] <fabbione> it's not in the archive yet
[03:37] <whiprush> woo.
[03:37] <fabbione> it is probably building
[03:38] <whiprush> quick question, desktop bugs should go into your bugzilla right? Even if I see the behaviour on my sid box also? ie. They should be reported seperately right?
[03:38] <fabbione>   * Fix bug in xserver-xfree86 configuration script where failure of
[03:38] <fabbione>     autodetection would cause the script to think it had detected one X server
[03:38] <fabbione>     or XFree86 video driver instead ($(echo "" | wc -l) is "1", not "0").
[03:39] <fabbione> whiprush: if you notice a bug in sid pleaase report it to Debian. If the same behaviour happens with warty, please let us know and we will track the bug as well
[03:39] <whiprush> ok.
[03:58] <jdub> hey hey wh	
[03:58] <jdub> er, whiprush 
[04:29] <bdale> sorry, walked away for a bit.  I'll investigate why X didn't start in a bit, need to help my wife with a problem first.
[04:45] <whiprush> jdub: point of no return now, I moved my main pc to ubuntu. fear.
[05:23] <jdub> whiprush: rad!
[05:36] <seb128> rburton, have you seen this bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148028 ?
[05:36] <seb128> read the last comment if you can
[05:37] <mjg59> Is there anyone around who can test a vino package for me in a couple of minutes?
[05:53] <jdub> mjg59: for warty?
[05:53] <mjg59> jdub: Built against unstable, so ought to work fine in warty
[05:53] <jdub> ok
[05:53] <mjg59> I only have a single machine here, so I want to make sure that it's actually serving properly without resorting to multiple X servers
[05:53] <jdub> source?
[05:54] <mjg59> Do you want source or is a deb fine?
[05:54] <jdub> deb-src
[05:54] <rburton> mjg59, just vncclient to localhost
[05:54] <rburton> fun for all the family
[05:54] <jdub> *pain*
[05:54] <mjg59> rburton: Doesn't that go horribly wrong?
[05:54] <rburton> no
[05:54] <rburton> its like looking in a reflection of a reflection
[05:55] <mjg59> jdub: It's in http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/tmp/
[06:00] <jdub> mjg59: building
[06:00] <mjg59> Rock
[06:01] <jdub> vino totally needs a nicon
[06:01] <jdub> when a connection is open
[06:01] <mjg59> notification area action
[06:02] <rburton> totally
[06:02] <rburton> i poked mark about this already
[06:02] <rburton> the sharer knows when someone connects but not when they disconnect
[06:03] <mjg59> You guys are having a notification area by default, right?
[06:04] <daniels> yah
[06:06] <jdub> mjg59: works here
[06:06] <mjg59> jdub: Rock
[06:06] <mjg59> I'll upload it, then
[06:06] <jdub> mjg59: just looked at 1280x800 screen from 800x600 screen ;)
[06:07] <mjg59> Is that hideously broken laptop still around?>
[06:07] <mjg59> If so, could someone dump the DSDT and send it to me?
[06:11] <jdub> which one?
[06:13] <jdub> mjg59: didn't seem to start the session when i turned it on in the prefs dialogue?
[06:13] <mjg59> jdub: It won't
[06:13] <jdub> "oh"
[06:13] <mjg59> If it's installed, the default session will run it
[06:13] <mjg59> Otherwise you need to add it by hand
[06:14] <jdub> so the prefs panel won't even run it?
[06:26] <daniels> jdub: the c3, dude
[06:28] <mjg59> Sorry, yeah, the c3
[06:29] <jdub> hrm, dunno where it is atm
[06:36] <mjg59> No urgency
[06:36] <mjg59> The dsdt from the Avertech (or whatever it's called) would be good, too
[08:33] <daniels> mjg59: when i find a network connection for the c3, i'll get you its dsdt
[08:34] <daniels> stupid non-wifi shit
[08:38] <mjg59> Thanks
[11:13] <bdale> elmo around?  HP crowd is trying to help get alioth back online and could use help.
[11:14] <lamont> elmo is off at a talk
[11:15] <lamont> he played taxi driver to a LUG or something - kinda expected back no sooner than 15 minutes ago... If I see him, I'll point him this way.
[11:16] <bdale> k, the machine is back to the point that taggart sort of has control of it... not sure what the issues are, but he's looking for help
[11:19] <lamont> ok.
[11:48] <bdale> jdub: finally looked at the ITX box... had the driver 'apm' scribbled in the X config...
[11:50] <bdale> jdub: changing that to 'via' and kicking gdm helped a lot