[02:04] <bdale> freshening the itx box over the net
[02:05] <jdub> bdale: aha, good stuff
[02:05] <jdub> bdale: please check if a new dpkg-reconfigure --priority=high xserver-xfree86 works
[02:05] <jdub> once you've upgraded
[02:05] <bdale> k
[02:05] <bdale> upgrade eta about an hour
[02:05] <jdub> fabio and daniels have been doing some Mad Phat X autodetection hacking today :)
[02:06] <bdale> probably longer until I'll touch it, given impending dinner bell and olympic coverage
[02:07] <hrdwrbob_> why do idiots use gentoo?
[02:08] <bdale> reminds me of an off-color joke about why God invented Hondas (in motorcycle space)
[02:34] <whiprush> fabio told me this morning that the fix should be in the next round of builds.
[02:34] <whiprush> I had the same X problem.
[02:40] <whiprush> I haven't had a chance to try it on a virgin box yet though.
[05:42] <bdale> jdub: running dpkg-reconfigure --priority=high xserver-xfree86 post-update certainly didn't hurt anything.  looks like it dropped a hsync and vsync lines but otherwise left the via line alone.  I'll be happy to reinstall this machine on the next CD snapshot to make sure.
[05:43] <jdub> cool
[05:43] <jdub> next cd will have all kinds of yummy stuff in it
[05:43] <jdub> heaps of x and power management work done in the last couple o fdays
[06:09] <bdale> k
[06:10] <bdale> maybe I'll victimize a tc1100 tablet in addition to the ITX chassis with the next cut...
[06:10] <bdale> that's a good target to check power stuff on
[10:34] <jdub> ahr!
[10:35] <rburton> morning all
[10:36] <jdub> yo rburton 
[10:36] <rburton> yo jdub
[10:36] <rburton> tried hunting you out when i left, and failed
[10:38] <jdub> got your mail tho :)
[10:39] <rburton> i mentioned to vicky you say "rad"
[10:39] <rburton> she gasped
[10:40] <jdub> is that uncool?
[10:40] <jdub> am i totally eighties?
[10:40] <rburton> apparently
[10:40] <rburton> i'm starting to watch my language more incase your aussie unhipness rubs off on me
[10:41] <Reformed> There's nothing wrong with rad.
[10:42] <rburton> yeah, but your .au too
[10:42] <rburton> it's okay
[10:42] <rburton> you can't help it
[10:43] <daniels> rburton: i suggest 'mad phat'
[10:43] <daniels> that is totally fly
[10:43] <Reformed> It's versatile, you have options with rad.
[10:43] <Reformed> It'll take you places.
[10:44] <rburton> daniels: you can only say "mad phat" if cruising down a street with jdub's banging ghetto blaster
[10:47] <jdub> KICKING RAD!
[10:48] <jdub> Reformed: is ubuntu kicking rad?
[10:48] <rburton> ubuntu is mad phat
[10:48] <rburton> actually, maybe not
[10:48] <rburton> if i had sweet fade-in boot logo, i'd reboot all the time
[10:48] <jdub> rburton: usplash!
[10:48] <rburton> and get no work done
[10:49] <rburton> jdub: thats the one
[10:50] <Reformed> jdub: it gets the KICKING RAD.
[11:13] <rburton> i can't believe my iiyama lcd monitor doesn't support ddc
[11:13] <rburton> thats pants
[11:17] <rburton> daniels: so my lcd manual says it supports "ddc 1/2b" yet xresprobe says its a generic monitor (non ddc)
[11:17] <rburton> do i need to shutdown X to make this work, or is it a driver thing?
[11:40] <daniels> rburton: what does ddcprobe say?
[11:41] <rburton> hm, weird
[11:41] <rburton> i get different results if i run ddcprobe in X to in a console whilst x is running
[11:41] <rburton> in X ddcprobe correctly lists the high resolutions, and ends with edidfail
[11:41] <rburton> i guess xresprobe wants EDID
[11:44] <rburton> ooh did firewire decide to work?
[11:46] <fabbione> rburton: did you upgrade or did you install xserver?
[11:46] <fabbione> there is a bug on upgrades i am trying to fix now
[11:46] <rburton> i upgraded this morning yeah
[11:46] <fabbione> ok there are some bugs that i am fixing now
[11:46] <fabbione> which chipset do you have?
[11:47] <fabbione> one bug in discover doesn't tell me some well known chipsets
[11:47] <rburton> i've got 4.3.0.dfsg.1-6ubuntu6 installed, nvidia geforce4mx iirc
[11:47] <rburton> nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]  (rev a2)
[11:47] <fabbione> ok
[11:47] <rburton> says lspci
[11:47] <fabbione> the upgrade script in X is borked if EDID fails
[11:48] <fabbione> we noticed only this morning
[11:48] <rburton> its all working for me, i was trying the xresprobe stuff
[11:49] <fabbione> rburton: it works if it can detect everything.. yes.
[11:49] <rburton> ah i see
[11:50] <rburton> oh ffs, hald is dead already
[11:51] <rburton> in ide_do_drive_cmd again. i hope this is a kernel bug
[11:51] <seb128> again ?
[11:51] <rburton> yeah
[11:51] <rburton> uptime of 50 minutes
[11:51] <seb128> which version of the kernel ?
[11:51] <rburton> 2.6.7-1-686
[11:52] <rburton> new hals don't probe for the eject commands on cd-drives, which i hope is the problem
[11:52] <rburton> upgrade hal!
[12:07] <cef> heya npmccallum
[12:15] <jdub> npmccallum: good morning ;)
[12:29] <Mithrandir> meow
[12:52] <fabbione> is Kamion around?
[12:53] <Mithrandir> he was up until 0400, so I would assume he might be in bed
[12:53] <_lamont> fabbione: I think he's sleeping
[12:53] <fabbione> ok thanks
[12:54] <fabbione> _lamont: we will need another X kick today
[12:54] <fabbione> ubuntu6 has a few nasty bugs we want fixed
[12:54] <fabbione> i am building a test release right now
[12:56] <cef> fabbione: any eta on new images?
[12:56] <fabbione> cef: i think there will be soon new images with the new X
[12:57] <fabbione> that's why i was searching for Kamion
[12:57] <cef> fabbione: cool.. just clearing out some spare drives so I can do a number of installs
[12:57] <Mithrandir> this is _good_ crack.
[12:57] <fabbione> cef: X on Sounder6 is safe
[12:58] <fabbione> if you are using the daily builds i would avoid it until monday
[12:58] <fabbione> Mithrandir: yup
[12:59] <fabbione> if i only had a P4 2Thz with8GB of ram i could have noticed faster
[12:59] <cef> fabbione: no probs
[01:00] <fabbione> X is at 25% more or less
[01:32] <npmccallum> morning
[01:33] <npmccallum> cef: glad to see you could make it :)
[01:43] <_lamont> fabbione: Kamion has been spotted.
[01:45] <Mithrandir> lamont__: I would assume he already knows
[03:00] <mjg59> daniels: dsdts?
[03:02] <Mithrandir> hi matthew
[03:05] <Mithrandir> chanelog?
[03:05] <Mithrandir> what does a chanel-og smell?
[03:10] <mjg59> I hope you're all planning on buying quality mjgware
[03:10] <rburton> of course
[03:36] <rburton> no nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[03:36] <fabbione> no
[03:36] <seb128> nvidia suxor
[03:37] <rburton> ati also suxor
[03:37] <rburton> so what's left? :)
[03:37] <fabbione> hmmmm
[03:37] <fabbione> matrox?
[03:37] <fabbione> ;)
[03:37] <seb128> rburton, intel ? 
[03:37] <seb128> outch
[03:38] <mjg59> intel have lovely free drivers for their top of the line stuff
[03:38] <fabbione> mjg59: are you good at hacking intel drivers?
[03:38] <mjg59> Nope
[03:38] <fabbione> ok
[03:39] <mjg59> I don't really do hardware at that level
[03:39] <fabbione> well we have a problem.. kinda annoying one
[03:39] <fabbione> is X is running and we do a ddcprobe, X crashes
[03:39] <mjg59> Eww
[03:39] <fabbione> that is NOT nice
[03:40] <fabbione> but only with i8xx chipset
[03:40] <fabbione> the via driver kill the machine
[03:40] <rburton> well they do suck
[03:44] <cef> any idea on where the crash actually is?
[03:44] <cef> cos I think I
[03:45] <cef> cos I think I've got some i815's about
[03:54] <mjg59> Mm. The via driver probably needs some bug-reporting love.
[03:55] <fabbione> mjg59: possibly yes.. daniels knows about it and i am pretty sure will spread out the info