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| lamont | dieman: you here? | 04:18 |
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| dieman | yeah | 04:43 |
| dieman | lamont: poke | 04:43 |
| lamont | dieman: trying to remember if I asked if you were ppc or i386 | 04:44 |
| dieman | im i386 | 04:44 |
| dieman | by far | 04:44 |
| lamont | ok | 04:44 |
| dieman | i dont even think i have a ppc box in the house | 04:44 |
| dieman | i do have m68k tho :) | 04:44 |
| dieman | (and hppa) | 04:44 |
| dieman | oh shit | 04:45 |
| dieman | i do have a ppc box | 04:45 |
| dieman | my tivo | 04:45 |
| dieman | Linux (none) 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 #8 Wed May 8 15:38:27 PDT 2002 ppc unknown | 04:47 |
| dieman | 2.1, ow. | 04:47 |
| dieman | thats somewhere beyond painful | 04:47 |
| mjg59 | Oh, wow | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | I remember 2.1.24 | 04:49 |
| mjg59 | We had a pile of Macs running it | 04:49 |
| lamont | dieman: tivo series 1, eh? | 04:59 |
| lamont | my tivo is mips | 04:59 |
| lamont | dieman: remember to firewall the tivo, eh? | 04:59 |
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| dieman | lamont: yeah, series 1 | 05:20 |
| dieman | 2 drives | 05:20 |
| dieman | with a cachecard | 05:21 |
| dieman | yay cachecard! | 05:21 |
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| lamont | required some small mods to do that... | 05:21 |
| dieman | yeah | 05:21 |
| dieman | i 'only' have a 30gb and a 40gb | 05:21 |
| dieman | im fairly surprised at how nice these 'newer style' part 15 fm transmitters are. | 05:22 |
| dieman | the fm radio injector things | 05:22 |
| dieman | im using one while i clean my room so i can listen in to net radio | 05:22 |
| dieman | wife is sleeping, so i have to be quiet | 05:22 |
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| rburton | morning all | 10:27 |
| Oskuro | morning | 10:27 |
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| sabdfl | hi everyone | 10:35 |
| Mithrandir | hi sabdfl | 10:36 |
| mako | sabdfl, Oskuro, Mithrandir, rburton: good morning! | 10:38 |
| fabbione | hi guys | 10:38 |
| mako | ciao fabbione | 10:38 |
| rburton | morning! | 10:38 |
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| rburton | can i suggest gaiksaurus for the default install? | 11:16 |
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| fabbione | hey ik5pvx ! | 11:20 |
| ik5pvx | hello | 11:20 |
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| Kamion | thom: your sudoers hack in base-config doesn't work; sudo is part of Base so /etc/sudoers has already been created by the time base-config runs | 12:44 |
| Kamion | fabbione: am I supposed to get a question about the modes I want to be available during xserver-xfree86 ubuntu7's postinst? | 12:45 |
| fabbione | Kamion: it depends which version of xresprobe you are using, and in any case it is possible if it fails | 12:58 |
| fabbione | Kamion: it is done in postinst because we need the server unpacked | 12:59 |
| Kamion | sure, I don't mind that | 12:59 |
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| cef | heya bdale | 01:01 |
| fabbione | Kamion: just check that you will get xresprobe 0.2-2 | 01:01 |
| fabbione | because -1 was broken | 01:01 |
| Kamion | 20040822/warty-i386-1.list:/pool/main/x/xresprobe/xresprobe_0.2-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 01:02 |
| Kamion | 20040823/warty-i386-1.list:/pool/main/x/xresprobe/xresprobe_0.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 01:02 |
| Kamion | installing now, we'll see how it goes | 01:02 |
| fabbione | ok | 01:02 |
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| sabdfl | kamion: the trashcan applet isn't showing on auckland, any idea why? | 01:04 |
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| Kamion | sabdfl: it doesn't seem to have been built yet; the source is there but no .debs | 01:05 |
| sabdfl | ok, tnx | 01:05 |
| seb128 | [ ] trashapplet_0.2-0ubuntu2_i386.deb | 01:05 |
| Kamion | sabdfl: this is the case for openssh -9 too, so I'm wondering if lamont's hilltop is down or something | 01:05 |
| seb128 | I see the deb here .. | 01:05 |
| Kamion | uh, let me go update little | 01:05 |
| Kamion | (my comments as of the state of the archive at the last CD build ...) | 01:06 |
| Kamion | ah, yes, it's there now | 01:07 |
| fabbione | re | 01:18 |
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| Kamion | fabbione: ok, so xresprobe still fails here | 01:36 |
| Kamion | ddcprobe output ends with 'edidfail' | 01:36 |
| fabbione | Kamion: ok. than we can't probe your box | 01:36 |
| fabbione | and it is normal that it asks the question | 01:36 |
| Kamion | oh, it's a VIA chipset | 01:36 |
| Kamion | that explains it | 01:36 |
| fabbione | is that a laptop? | 01:36 |
| fabbione | oh yes | 01:36 |
| fabbione | via is banned from autoprobing | 01:36 |
| Kamion | yes, it's the Averatec AMD Athlon XP that was at the conference | 01:37 |
| fabbione | the via chipset we were testing was hardfreezing the entire machine | 01:37 |
| fabbione | ok | 01:37 |
| fabbione | rburton: you around? | 01:39 |
| rburton | yeah | 01:40 |
| fabbione | do you feel lucky today? | 01:40 |
| rburton | heh | 01:40 |
| rburton | why not | 01:40 |
| fabbione | ehehe cool | 01:40 |
| Kamion | good, panel much happier now | 01:40 |
| fabbione | apt-get --purge remove xserver-xfree86 | 01:40 |
| fabbione | apt-get install discover1 xresprobe mdetect laptop-detect | 01:40 |
| fabbione | apt-get install xserver-xfree86 | 01:40 |
| fabbione | just be sure that X removes its config file | 01:40 |
| fabbione | i am curious to see if it will detect your hardware correctly | 01:41 |
| rburton | ok | 01:41 |
| rburton | bbiab :) | 01:41 |
| lamont | Kamion: Aug 23 11:52:25 buildd-mail: openssh has been installed; removing from upload dir: | 01:46 |
| lamont | that's a london time | 01:46 |
| seb128 | hey lamont | 01:47 |
| seb128 | lamont: gst-plugins0.8 is still not built, could you check if it's ftbfsing ? | 01:47 |
| fabbione | hey lamont | 01:48 |
| lamont | libs/gst-plugins0.8_0.8.3-1: Dep-Wait by buildd+rockhopper [optional:out-of-date] | 01:48 |
| lamont | Dependencies: libtheora-dev | 01:48 |
| lamont | morning fabbione | 01:48 |
| fabbione | libtheora-dev is missing in the archive | 01:48 |
| === lamont is going back to bed shortly, what with it being 6AM and all. | ||
| seb128 | lamont: oh ok, thanks | 01:48 |
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| rburton | weird | 01:50 |
| rburton | it only asked what resolutions i wanted to use, but 1280x1024 (the native res for my lcd) wasn't in the list | 01:50 |
| seb128 | what ? | 01:50 |
| rburton | fabbione: done | 01:51 |
| fabbione | rburton: are you on a laptop? | 01:51 |
| Oskuro | ok, starting my first ubuntu install | 01:51 |
| rburton | fabbione: no, desktop with iiyama lcd | 01:51 |
| fabbione | rburton: chipset? | 01:51 |
| Oskuro | I think I've got one of those evil machines that break Debian installer badly. | 01:51 |
| rburton | toggle 1280x1024 and X started fine | 01:51 |
| rburton | fabbione: nVidia Corporation NV18 | 01:51 |
| Oskuro | Does this belong in #ubunto or #warthogs? | 01:51 |
| rburton | (geforce4 mx) | 01:51 |
| fabbione | can you run xresprobe? | 01:51 |
| fabbione | it should print out 2 lines | 01:52 |
| rburton | fabbione: in X or from a console? | 01:52 |
| rburton | and should i kill X before running it | 01:52 |
| fabbione | rburton: it doesn't matter | 01:52 |
| rburton | ok | 01:52 |
| fabbione | it should work with or without X | 01:52 |
| rburton | $ /usr/sbin/xresprobe nv lcd | 01:52 |
| rburton | id: Generic Monitor (non-DDC) | 01:52 |
| rburton | res: | 01:52 |
| fabbione | which version of xresprobe do you have? | 01:53 |
| rburton | 0.2-0ubuntu2 | 01:53 |
| fabbione | ok... | 01:53 |
| fabbione | if you can... | 01:53 |
| fabbione | exits from X and run: | 01:53 |
| fabbione | xresprobe nv lcd | 01:53 |
| rburton | mouse acceleration is much higher than it was before i restarted btw | 01:53 |
| fabbione | and tell me if it prints something sane | 01:53 |
| rburton | like, really fast. | 01:53 |
| rburton | ok, bbiab | 01:53 |
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| rburton | fabbione: no change | 01:58 |
| rburton | ddcprobe returns edidfail | 01:59 |
| fabbione | ok thanks | 01:59 |
| fabbione | i guess we can't probe everything | 01:59 |
| rburton | these monitors support "ddc 2b" apparently | 01:59 |
| lamont | Kamion: hilltop has been happy all night | 02:00 |
| fabbione | rburton: well when ddcprobe will support them, we will too :-) | 02:00 |
| rburton | heh | 02:00 |
| rburton | fabbione: any idea why my mouse is way faster? | 02:01 |
| fabbione | rburton: perhaps because we are using /dev/input/mice as default | 02:01 |
| fabbione | it didn't change on my machine (installed this morning) | 02:01 |
| rburton | maybe i can blame seb128 | 02:02 |
| seb128 | hum | 02:02 |
| rburton | the mouse speed setting in gnome is, like, not working | 02:03 |
| seb128 | I've not changed anything on this afaik | 02:03 |
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| === rburton rmmod psmouse; modprobe psmouse resolution=100 | ||
| rburton | better | 02:10 |
| === fabbione should probably send a mail to sounders explain what to expect from X autoconfig | ||
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| sabdfl | anybody else stuck with upgrades to aspell-bin, gnome-games, libglademm, libgtksourceview, yelp and libapache-mod-auth-xxx that won't complete? | 02:56 |
| Mithrandir | libgail-gnome- python2.3-gnome and libzvt2.0-0 seems to be a bit stuck here | 03:00 |
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| SteveA | hi | 03:18 |
| SteveA | I'm using ubuntu linux, and I can't get "compose" working in x | 03:19 |
| SteveA | any hints? | 03:19 |
| fabbione | SteveA: known bug. check bugs.debian.org/src:xfree86 | 03:23 |
| fabbione | i can't remember the exact number but it should be one of the first | 03:23 |
| sabdfl | could the failed-upgrades stuff be related to the new apt? | 03:34 |
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| sabdfl | anybody else seeing fb corruption during boot? | 04:08 |
| sabdfl | gdm / x are coming up fine but my console is b0rked | 04:08 |
| fabbione | sabdfl: which video card? | 04:09 |
| sabdfl | ati 9800xp | 04:10 |
| sabdfl | seb128: right click on the desktop is not working for me | 04:10 |
| fabbione | isn't the one on the packard bell? | 04:10 |
| sabdfl | fabbione: no, it's my home desktop | 04:10 |
| seb128 | sabdfl: nautilus manages the desktop ? the icons are displayed ? opening a dir on the desktop works ? | 04:11 |
| fabbione | sabdfl: i remember fb broken on that laptop and iirc it was an ati too. perhaps it's just the kernel fb driver that is broken. we should give it a shot after we sync 2.6.8 | 04:12 |
| sabdfl | nothing is displayed, currently | 04:12 |
| seb128 | ps ax | grep nautilus | 04:13 |
| sabdfl | seb128: nothing | 04:14 |
| seb128 | $ gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop ? | 04:14 |
| sabdfl | true | 04:14 |
| seb128 | if you start nautilus from a gnome-terminal, any error ? | 04:15 |
| sabdfl | ah. nautilus is... not installed | 04:15 |
| seb128 | ok | 04:15 |
| seb128 | that doesn't help to get a desktop managed by nautilus :) | 04:16 |
| sabdfl | must have been an automatic installation previously, dropped by aptitude when it wasn't needed for an older package | 04:16 |
| seb128 | perhaps yes | 04:17 |
| sabdfl | ok, working nicely now | 04:18 |
| sabdfl | thanks | 04:18 |
| sabdfl | btw this trash applet is excellent | 04:18 |
| rburton | trash applet? | 04:19 |
| seb128 | apt-get install trashapplet | 04:20 |
| seb128 | a trash can on the panel, you can DND your files here | 04:20 |
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| seb128 | you can also open the trash with a click, or empty it, or see how many files are in | 04:21 |
| mdz | sabdfl: what does the fb corruption look like? | 04:24 |
| sabdfl | mdz: lots of dots and squggles, text is partly readable | 04:27 |
| sabdfl | it gets worse the more gets written to the screen | 04:27 |
| sabdfl | mdz: also, apt seems unable to complete the install on several packages at the moment | 04:27 |
| mdz | sabdfl: which packages? | 04:30 |
| sabdfl | gnome-games | 04:32 |
| sabdfl | libapache-modu-auth-(plain | sys-group ) | 04:38 |
| sabdfl | aspell-bin | 04:38 |
| sabdfl | yelp | 04:38 |
| sabdfl | libglademm2.0 | 04:38 |
| sabdfl | libgtksourceview1.0-0 | 04:38 |
| sabdfl | mdz: ^^^ | 04:38 |
| mdz | ok | 04:38 |
| npmccallum | Kamion: we need to make sure that cdroms (and other removable media) do not end up in fstab | 04:39 |
| mdz | Kamion: setuid /bin/mount is going to be disabled in favour of pmount, which doesn't require entries in fstab | 04:40 |
| npmccallum | Kamion: all removable media needs to be handled by pmount, which will refuse to mount anything in fstab (for good reason) | 04:40 |
| Kamion | hm, ok | 04:40 |
| Kamion | can somebody create a partman-target component so I can actually put that bug in the right place? | 04:40 |
| Kamion | or even just partman | 04:41 |
| thom | npmccallum: you pinged the other day? (i only just got to a computer since friday) | 04:42 |
| mdz | Kamion: done | 04:42 |
| npmccallum | thom: I pinged a few minutes ago | 04:43 |
| npmccallum | thom: did you make a usplash package? | 04:43 |
| thom | nope; totally flaked out the last couple of days, sorry | 04:44 |
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| npmccallum | rburton: a wrapper around mount that handles mounting and umounting of removable devices | 04:45 |
| rburton | why that over mount? | 04:45 |
| npmccallum | basically we're creating a policy which says: system devices use fstab, non system devices (less security) should be dynamically allocated a mountpoint | 04:46 |
| mdz | it uses a flexible policy mechanism, rather than relying on static entries in fstab | 04:46 |
| mdz | and therefore works nicely with hot-pluggable devices as well | 04:46 |
| npmccallum | its better than the redhat idea of dynamically modifying fstab (also forcing hal to run as root) | 04:47 |
| rburton | nice | 04:47 |
| npmccallum | thom: its ok | 04:48 |
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| mdz | any opinions on smartmontools? | 04:56 |
| Kamion | npmccallum: presumably I should make the same quietinit->splash change in yaboot-installer? | 05:03 |
| mdz | A South African skydiver survived a 3,500 meter (11,500 ft) plunge after her parachute failed to open and lines broke on her reserve chute, a local skydiving club said Monday. | 05:03 |
| mdz | sabdfl: they build 'em sturdy down there, apparently | 05:03 |
| thom | yow | 05:03 |
| Kamion | thom: did you see my comment about base-config/sudoers? | 05:04 |
| thom | mdz: turns out starting acpid in rcS causes problems | 05:04 |
| thom | Kamion: yes | 05:04 |
| rburton | "she was reported to have bounced 15 times down the main road" | 05:04 |
| mdz | thom: what sort of problems? | 05:04 |
| thom | mdz: we start it before /var gets cleaned. so the socket goes away | 05:06 |
| mdz | ah | 05:06 |
| thom | and you don't need the daemon anyway, so i think munging the relevant modules into the initrd and then starting the saemon in rc2 again might be a better option | 05:07 |
| mdz | I agree | 05:08 |
| mdz | hopefully there don't exist machines where loading those modules hangs the system | 05:09 |
| mdz | that'd be rather inconvenient | 05:09 |
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| npmccallum | Kamion: yes | 05:10 |
| thom | it'd be unfortunate | 05:10 |
| Kamion | npmccallum: done | 05:10 |
| Kamion | npmccallum: (was the actual option change in sysvinit, or somewhere else?) | 05:11 |
| npmccallum | Kamion: sysvinit | 05:11 |
| thom | mdz: are you happy for me to upload sulogin, by the way? | 05:11 |
| npmccallum | Kamion: usplash will also check for it and not display if it isn't there | 05:12 |
| Kamion | right, so still waiting for that part of the change then | 05:12 |
| npmccallum | Kamion: sysvinit is already changed (at least the package is uploaded) | 05:12 |
| Kamion | hm, it's not on little | 05:12 |
| npmccallum | strange | 05:12 |
| Kamion | nor warty-changes | 05:13 |
| npmccallum | yeah, I just checked | 05:13 |
| npmccallum | should I upload again? | 05:13 |
| Kamion | were there new packages or anything? | 05:13 |
| npmccallum | no | 05:13 |
| npmccallum | just a string change | 05:13 |
| mdz | this was just aa short time ago; it might still be in the queue | 05:14 |
| mdz | thom: yes | 05:14 |
| Kamion | there doesn't seem to be a sysvinit*.upload file in chinstrap:~npmccallum/UploadQueue/, so maybe it's still waiting | 05:14 |
| Kamion | (how do you run that queue, btw?) | 05:14 |
| npmccallum | dput | 05:14 |
| npmccallum | by hand | 05:15 |
| npmccallum | I intend to script it later | 05:15 |
| Kamion | ah, ok :) | 05:15 |
| npmccallum | yeah, sysvinit is the only one that doesn't have .upload | 05:15 |
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| npmccallum | mdz: should I try to upload again since I got no .upload file? | 05:20 |
| mdz | npmccallum: sure; if there's no .upload, it either got deleted, or it was never uploaded | 05:20 |
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| mdz | sabdfl: those packages seem to install fine for me here | 05:41 |
| mdz | with current warty | 05:41 |
| mdz | Mithrandir: how is amd64 looking? | 05:42 |
| sabdfl | mdz: over here they install fine, but then apt wants to install them again | 05:49 |
| sabdfl | and then they install fine, but apt just wants to install them again | 05:50 |
| sabdfl | rinse and repeat | 05:50 |
| mdz | that typically means that apt is seeing multiple packages with the same version number which are actually distinct | 05:50 |
| mdz | or else a broken pinning configuration | 05:50 |
| mdz | anything funny in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/preferences? | 05:51 |
| Keybuk | mdz: there's something definitely screwy with the archive | 05:52 |
| Keybuk | we're all seeing it for different packages | 05:52 |
| mdz | hmm | 05:52 |
| mdz | I don't see it on a fresh debootstrap | 05:52 |
| sabdfl | in apt/sources.list I have another archive which has an ati binary driver in it | 05:52 |
| sabdfl | but it doesn't also have any of the b0rked packages | 05:52 |
| sabdfl | and in /etc/apt/preferences I have some bits that relate to when we had no unstable, so I had some pinning going on | 05:53 |
| sabdfl | I could remove the /etc/apt/preferences and the extra archive from sources.list with pleasure | 05:53 |
| sabdfl | hmm... no change | 05:55 |
| Oskuro | definitely, the kernel in warty-sounders-6 is fucked for my test machine. | 06:06 |
| Oskuro | I've had to hack around my way through the install to get the cdrom detected. | 06:06 |
| Oskuro | I suspect this is the case with normal d-i too, so I wonder if you guys want a bugzilla report, or should I just go to debian-boot@ directly? | 06:07 |
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| Mithrandir | mdz: I see the same problem as everybody's seeing; wrt amd64, I've been spending most of the day sleeping and recovering from Oxford. | 06:31 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: I need to whack ia32-libs into shape (and preferably amd64-libs too) and then get the new gcc in together with doko. | 06:32 |
| mdz | it might be fallout from the flush/rebuild during wartyconf | 06:33 |
| mdz | maybe try apt-get clean? | 06:33 |
| doko | are the 3.3/3.4 uploads in warty, or are they rejected? | 06:33 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: I can try. | 06:35 |
| Mithrandir | doko: you've already uploaded the biarch ones? | 06:41 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: that seemed to fix it, thx | 06:41 |
| mdz | sabdfl: try apt-get clean? | 06:51 |
| lamont | doko: gcc-3.3_1:3.3.4-9ubuntu1?? | 06:53 |
| lamont | that was ftbfs on ppc/amd64 | 06:53 |
| sabdfl | mdz: that fixed it, thanks | 06:53 |
| sabdfl | i wonder if that will happen to upgraders from woody? | 06:54 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: why? | 06:54 |
| lamont | sabdfl: any package that we're shipping the same version as woody, which is already in your cache, will have issues.... :-( | 06:56 |
| lamont | since we rebuilt from source all of the source packages | 06:56 |
| sabdfl | ok closer to release time we can do the analysis and bump versions if we have to | 06:56 |
| sabdfl | sarge is likely to be a much bigger problem then | 06:56 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.4/../../../libc.so when searching for -lc | 06:57 |
| lamont | and so on, for amd64 | 06:57 |
| lamont | dh_movefiles -pgnat-3.3 usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/3.3.4/gnat1 usr/lib/gcc-lib/powerpc-linux/3.3.4/{adalib,adainclude} usr/bin/gnat usr/bin/gnatbind usr/bin/gnatbl | 06:57 |
| lamont | +usr/bin/gnatchop usr/bin/gnatfind usr/bin/gnatkr usr/bin/gnatlink usr/bin/gnatls usr/bin/gnatmake usr/bin/gnatname usr/bin/gnatprep usr/bin/gnatxref usr/bin/gnatpsta | 06:57 |
| lamont | xargs: rm: terminated by signal 4 | 06:57 |
| lamont | dh_movefiles: command returned error code | 06:57 |
| lamont | on ppc | 06:57 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: ok, missing ia32-libs-dev build-dependency. | 06:57 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: I wonder why it failed on ppc, though | 06:58 |
| Mithrandir | and my home router just died, *grumble* | 06:58 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: actually, that could just be ppc flakiness - I'll see if giving it back helpo | 06:59 |
| lamont | s | 06:59 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: goodie, I don't see why it should fail on ppc (though, I haven't looked at the source, just listened to what doko's told me) | 07:00 |
| mdz | sabdfl: that issue shouldn't affect upgrades from woody; I don't think that any Warty packages have the same version number as a woody package | 07:01 |
| sabdfl | ok, so just sarge then | 07:01 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: it's trivial to check, though | 07:02 |
| lamont | seb128: theora is installed | 07:02 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: gcc-3.4 is d-w amd64-libs-dev | 07:02 |
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| mdz | sabdfl: yes, there are many such packages in that set (same version in sarge and warty) | 07:04 |
| Mithrandir | because it's biarch | 07:04 |
| seb128 | lamont: thanks | 07:04 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: I'm working on it, but ia32-libs has higher priority for me atm. | 07:04 |
| mdz | but sarge->warty is a downgrade anyway | 07:05 |
| mdz | we may or may not have this situation with sarge->hoary | 07:05 |
| fabbione | mdz: perhaps we can ship an ad-hoc apt_prefereces | 07:07 |
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| mdz | the cache issue can be fixed in apt | 07:07 |
| fabbione | anyway | 07:07 |
| fabbione | i want to get drunk now :-) | 07:07 |
| mdz | but there will still be other, more difficult problems | 07:07 |
| fabbione | time for heavy party | 07:08 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: that was last friday. :) | 07:10 |
| fabbione | too :-) | 07:12 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: we bought the house today !:) | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | AWESOME! | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | party at your place, then? | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | :) | 07:12 |
| fabbione | i need to get drunk :O) | 07:12 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: ALWAYS! | 07:12 |
| fabbione | gotta go now | 07:12 |
| fabbione | bbl | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | see you around | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | and congrats. | 07:12 |
| thom | fabbione: have fun, and congrats | 07:13 |
| doko | lamont: if the gcc packages failed to build, please send me the logs (or maybe the last 100 lines ...) | 07:29 |
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| lamont | doko: OK. one more round on ppc... | 08:16 |
| Mithrandir | lamont: works now? | 08:17 |
| lamont | Mithrandir: gcc-3.3 really gets annoyed when the build directory wasn't removed from the previous try | 08:17 |
| Mithrandir | hm, it should rm it in the clean target, shouldn't it? | 08:20 |
| lamont | yeah, it should | 08:23 |
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| Kamion | thom: I plan to change sudo to put 'Defaults !lecture,tty_tickets' in the standard sudoers file it creates in its postinst, and in base-config just append to the sudoers file. Sound good? | 10:00 |
| Kamion | (append> if it exists, probably) | 10:00 |
| thom | Kamion: i was just about to ask if that was the best way ;-) | 10:01 |
| thom | Kamion: so yes, sounds good | 10:01 |
| Kamion | heh, ok | 10:04 |
| thom | i can do sudo if you do base config, or 've you done it already? | 10:05 |
| Kamion | just done sudo actually | 10:06 |
| Kamion | obviously the wrong order :-) | 10:06 |
| thom | heh | 10:07 |
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| thom | i'll let you do base-config then, since you're obviously ahead of me as usual :-) | 10:07 |
| thom | Keybuk: yes, they're very useful to sudo | 10:08 |
| Keybuk | thom: %patrons theatre_tickets(+opera_glasses) | 10:08 |
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| thom | yessssss | 10:09 |
| thom | hey Gman | 10:09 |
| Kamion | thom: ok, done; now for shadow </scared> | 10:09 |
| Keybuk | ya know, I swear ... these metacity focus hacks are sweeeet | 10:09 |
| Gman | hey hey thom | 10:10 |
| Keybuk | now we just need Typing Break to wait until I've finished typing and not interrupt me mid-flow :p | 10:10 |
| thom | Kamion: hacking sulogin felt /so/ wrong | 10:10 |
| thom | Keybuk: *g* | 10:10 |
| Keybuk | Gman: hey | 10:10 |
| Kamion | thom: I'm sure we're going to get a lot of hate mail about this change, you know ... | 10:10 |
| Gman | evening Keybuk | 10:10 |
| Kamion | thom: we need some documentation of the whole thing somewhere too | 10:11 |
| thom | Kamion: yeah | 10:12 |
| Kamion | shadow away | 10:12 |
| thom | Kamion: i hope in expert mode you'll get the choice? | 10:12 |
| Kamion | thom: probably not right now since everyone sent me hate mail about base-config's priority handling so it's forced to high | 10:13 |
| Kamion | in fact I'm just commenting out all the code anyway ;-) | 10:13 |
| Kamion | for the moment I mostly want to see what the reaction to the setup is | 10:14 |
| mdz | Kamion: speaking of hate mail, we need to re-enable the hostname question in d-i | 10:21 |
| thom | yes | 10:25 |
| Kamion | mdz: under all circumstances, I take it? | 10:25 |
| mdz | Kamion: I would say so | 10:26 |
| Kamion | mdz: done | 10:27 |
| mdz | thanks | 10:27 |
| mdz | Kamion: I will accept responsibility for the additional question :-) | 10:27 |
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| Oskuro | Keybuk: seriously, that typing-break feature would be so welcome :) | 10:56 |
| Keybuk | kinda defeats the purpose though, doesn't it? :p | 10:57 |
| Keybuk | the "stop tying" alert waiting until... you stop typing | 10:58 |
| thom | c'mon! c'mon! oh man, stop typing so i can tell you to stop typing! | 11:00 |
| Oskuro | Keybuk: well, no. | 11:19 |
| Oskuro | make it lock it after 2 seconds of no activity | 11:20 |
| Oskuro | so you at least can finish introducing the command you were introducing or whatever | 11:20 |
| Oskuro | of no keyboard activity I mean | 11:20 |
| Oskuro | this has the nice side-effect of not spoiling a tetrinet game :D | 11:20 |
| mdz | use workrave | 11:38 |
| Oskuro | is workrave still included in warty? | 11:40 |
| Kamion | workrave | 1.6.2-1 | warty | powerpc, i386, source | 11:44 |
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