| daniels | edd: rad | 12:39 |
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| daniels | edd: does that build and work for you? if so, could you please nmu it with a note that i asked? | 12:39 |
| daniels | i so don't have the bandwidth to pull mono | 12:39 |
| daniels | edd: oh, and if you could patch the Makefile.am as well as the Makefile.in, that'd rock. cheers. | 12:40 |
| daniels | edd: (and priority=high to hit sarge) | 12:40 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu: SSDS | http://wiki.no-name-yet.com/ un: sounders, pw: oink | Sounder CD 7 released | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu): set by Kamion at Tue Aug 24 16:57:26 2004 | ||
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| ik5pvx | quick question: is it normal that recovery mode asks no password at all, or did I f**k up something ? | 08:18 |
| fabbione | iirc it's correct | 08:46 |
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| seb128 | hello | 10:41 |
| edd | hey seb | 10:43 |
| seb128 | hello edd | 10:45 |
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| lucas_ | hi | 11:16 |
| seb128 | hey lucas_ | 11:20 |
| lucas_ | hi seb128 :) | 11:20 |
| seb128 | so, you've tried the distro ? :) | 11:21 |
| lucas_ | yes, but I don't have much to say yet, since I ran into a problem with the screen going blank when gdm starts | 11:21 |
| seb128 | utch | 11:22 |
| seb128 | which video card ? | 11:23 |
| lucas_ | nforce 2 | 11:23 |
| lucas_ | with the nv driver | 11:23 |
| lucas_ | I used my debian's XF86Config-4 | 11:23 |
| lucas_ | nothing in XFree's logs | 11:23 |
| seb128 | the warty one was not correct ? | 11:24 |
| lucas_ | I wasn't sure, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't a config problem | 11:24 |
| lucas_ | I'll try again later with other drivers | 11:25 |
| seb128 | but on the first boot with the warty config you got a blank screen ? | 11:25 |
| lucas_ | yes | 11:25 |
| seb128 | fabbione: already heard about such problem ? | 11:25 |
| lucas_ | the screen is all black | 11:25 |
| lucas_ | (and the monitor doesnt go into power-saving mode) | 11:25 |
| lucas_ | I then booted in single user mode and disabled gdm | 11:26 |
| fabbione | lucas_: please try to start X without gdm | 11:27 |
| fabbione | and check the log file | 11:27 |
| lucas_ | tried that, same results | 11:27 |
| fabbione | let's isolate one problem at a time | 11:27 |
| lucas_ | there's nothing relevant in X's log | 11:27 |
| fabbione | did X in debian work with the same config? | 11:27 |
| lucas_ | yes | 11:28 |
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| fabbione | which version of X are you using? | 11:28 |
| lucas_ | in debian ? | 11:28 |
| fabbione | did you upgrade from the net after cd install? | 11:28 |
| lucas_ | in debian, the unstable one | 11:28 |
| lucas_ | in ubuntu the latest (I upgraded) | 11:29 |
| fabbione | lucas_: ok that can explain. | 11:29 |
| fabbione | your config is borked | 11:29 |
| fabbione | the last X in ubuntu has some issues | 11:29 |
| fabbione | be sure to use a working config | 11:29 |
| lucas_ | can you define "working config" ? :) | 11:30 |
| fabbione | lucas_: the one you were using before? | 11:30 |
| lucas_ | I'm using the one I'm using with debian | 11:31 |
| fabbione | are you 100% sure? again there is a problem in X upgrade process in ubuntu that was mangling config file... | 11:31 |
| lucas_ | I just checked. | 11:32 |
| fabbione | that btw i am trying to fix now.. | 11:32 |
| lucas_ | oh, btw, am I supposed to see a bootsplash ? because I don't | 11:33 |
| fabbione | no you are not | 11:33 |
| lucas_ | ok | 11:33 |
| fabbione | not to start X atleast | 11:33 |
| lucas_ | no I mean during boot | 11:33 |
| lucas_ | (nothing to do with the other problem) | 11:33 |
| fabbione | which chipset you have? | 11:35 |
| fabbione | nv? | 11:35 |
| lucas_ | nvidia nforce | 11:35 |
| lucas_ | nv driver yes | 11:35 |
| lucas_ | (bootsplash works with vesa in my debian install) | 11:36 |
| fabbione | * Grab from XFree86 CVS (2003-07-16) more updates to the nv driver. Fixes | 11:37 |
| fabbione | hmmmmm | 11:37 |
| fabbione | lucas_: how would you feel to do a test for us and debian in one shot? | 11:37 |
| fabbione | i will help you.. but i need your help as well | 11:37 |
| lucas_ | no problem | 11:37 |
| lucas_ | but my X problem is ubuntu-specific | 11:38 |
| lucas_ | it works in debian with the nv drivr | 11:38 |
| lucas_ | and it has worked for ages | 11:38 |
| fabbione | lucas_: it is now.. it might be in debian too. that's why i need your help to test | 11:38 |
| lucas_ | ok | 11:38 |
| === fabbione thinks the easiest way to test | ||
| fabbione | do you have debian on that machine too or only ubuntu? | 11:39 |
| lucas_ | no, both | 11:39 |
| fabbione | ok perfect | 11:39 |
| fabbione | switch to debian, apt-get source xfree86 && apt-get build-dep xfree86 | 11:39 |
| lucas_ | I'm on debian already | 11:40 |
| fabbione | http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/HACKING.txt | 11:40 |
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| fabbione | down to the bottom there is a section "Building the package" | 11:40 |
| fabbione | i need you to do that procedure | 11:41 |
| fabbione | and try the packages from svn trunk | 11:41 |
| fabbione | they contain the same nv drivers we have here | 11:41 |
| fabbione | test the packages with the known working config | 11:41 |
| fabbione | it will take you a while... | 11:42 |
| fabbione | approx 5GB of space and probably 1 hour or so to build X | 11:42 |
| fabbione | (depends how fast is your machine | 11:42 |
| lucas_ | eh, why don't I just get the .deb from ubuntu and install them on debian ? | 11:42 |
| fabbione | lucas_: no. don't do that | 11:42 |
| fabbione | you will just install broken packages on a known working system | 11:43 |
| fabbione | and i am pretty sure the problem is related to nv driver update | 11:43 |
| lucas_ | ok | 11:43 |
| fabbione | you can try to borrow only the driver from ubuntu | 11:43 |
| lucas_ | ok, I'm doing that now | 11:44 |
| fabbione | but i much rather prefer if you can test the whole | 11:44 |
| lucas_ | yup I understand | 11:44 |
| lucas_ | bbiaf | 11:46 |
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| lucas_ | re | 11:55 |
| lucas_ | fabbione: so, with the nv_drv.o from ubuntu, X didn't start in Debian | 11:57 |
| lucas_ | and with the nv_drv.o from Debian, X did work in ubuntu | 11:57 |
| fabbione | lucas_: goody.. at least we know where the problem is | 11:57 |
| fabbione | lucas_: i need you to do a reportbug in debian | 11:57 |
| fabbione | because it will affect the new Xfree86 upload | 11:58 |
| fabbione | do the following: | 11:58 |
| lucas_ | ok. what must I say ? :) | 11:58 |
| fabbione | (just a sec.. i was elaburating on it :)) | 11:58 |
| fabbione | reportbug xserver-xfree86 | 11:59 |
| fabbione | subject: nv driver from trunk doesn't work | 11:59 |
| fabbione | subject: nv driver from svn trunk doesn't work properly | 11:59 |
| fabbione | and then add all the information you want | 12:00 |
| fabbione | and stuff like: | 12:00 |
| fabbione | lspci -n | 12:00 |
| fabbione | video card information | 12:00 |
| fabbione | (as many as you can) | 12:00 |
| fabbione | but do it from debian | 12:00 |
| lucas_ | yup ok | 12:00 |
| fabbione | once you get an answer from the BTS | 12:00 |
| fabbione | please let me know the bug number | 12:00 |
| lucas_ | I'll do that later (in an hour or so) | 12:00 |
| lucas_ | ok | 12:00 |
| fabbione | so that we can track in ubuntu too | 12:00 |
| fabbione | thanks | 12:01 |
| lucas_ | hum the thing is, I didn't really tested the svn trunk version | 12:01 |
| fabbione | lucas_: well you tested the svn trunk version of the driver | 12:01 |
| lucas_ | ok | 12:02 |
| fabbione | i did check | 12:13 |
| fabbione | the updates only touches the nv driver and nothing more | 12:13 |
| fabbione | so you can safely use newer drivers with the old packages | 12:13 |
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| lucas_ | re | 02:06 |
| seb128 | wb | 02:07 |
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| lucas_ | when I rebooted on Debian, my root filesystem (which I mounted while on Ubuntu) was corrupted. Is it just bad luck, or are there been similar reports ? | 02:20 |
| lucas_ | I'm using reiserfs | 02:20 |
| Md | really corrupted or just flagged dirty? | 02:20 |
| lucas_ | really corrupted | 02:21 |
| StoneTable | corruption while using reiserfs isn't unheard of | 02:21 |
| lucas_ | so just bad luck ;) | 02:22 |
| seb128 | lucas_: I don't think that's related to warty, there is no reason | 02:22 |
| seb128 | yes, probably | 02:22 |
| lucas_ | ok | 02:22 |
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| lucas_ | I currently see no bootsplash while booting warty. Is it normal ? | 04:02 |
| Md | yes | 04:02 |
| thom | it's expected, yes | 04:02 |
| lucas_ | ok | 04:02 |
| Keybuk | lucas_: sadly it looks like that's going to be a hoary feature instead | 04:02 |
| Keybuk | 6-monthly release process bites when things aren't ready for feature-freeze | 04:03 |
| hrdwrbob_ | why so ?\ | 04:03 |
| hrdwrbob_ | ah | 04:03 |
| edd | still, it's a short enough amount of time to wait for things to get better | 04:04 |
| edd | and there are those of us willing to switch to hoary before its release to help out :) | 04:04 |
| Keybuk | aye, Hoary Array#1 is out only a month after Warty iirc. | 04:05 |
| Keybuk | actually, it's a week after Warty release | 04:05 |
| Keybuk | wow | 04:05 |
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| lifeless | Array #1 ? | 04:09 |
| thom | array is the collective noun for hedgehogs | 04:13 |
| lifeless | ah. | 04:13 |
| hrdwrbob_ | while not *strictly* a warty problem (this is on a debian box) anyonre have any idea why gnome-panel might not display the top bar correctly on startup (but displays the bottom bar) but on killing it and having it restart, it works | 04:14 |
| Keybuk | could be a stuck panel applet that's not starting properly? or something like that | 04:22 |
| Keybuk | don't know, not seen that myself -- seb128 is the guy to bounce that off | 04:22 |
| seb128 | sawfish as window manager ? | 04:23 |
| hrdwrbob_ | yeah | 04:23 |
| seb128 | sawfish bug | 04:23 |
| hrdwrbob_ | Keybuk: yeah I tried bouncing the all manually | 04:23 |
| hrdwrbob_ | oh, heh | 04:23 |
| hrdwrbob_ | well that's good to know *upgrades sawfish* | 04:23 |
| seb128 | yes, should be fixed in last release | 04:24 |
| hrdwrbob_ | thanks :) | 04:24 |
| Keybuk | see, he knows these things <g> | 04:24 |
| seb128 | sawfish (1:1.3+cvs20040617-6) unstable; urgency=high | 04:24 |
| seb128 | . | 04:24 |
| seb128 | * New patch to fix panel position. This feature has been introduced in | 04:24 |
| hrdwrbob_ | ah | 04:24 |
| seb128 | :) | 04:24 |
| hrdwrbob_ | :) | 04:24 |
| hrdwrbob_ | I'm just copying the crap off this machine so I can turn it into a warty box | 04:25 |
| hrdwrbob_ | the stupid thing is only copying at 1.6mb/s | 04:25 |
| mdz | lmorning | 04:36 |
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| hrdwrbob_ | morning | 04:36 |
| thom | hey matt | 04:37 |
| seb128 | hello mdz | 04:39 |
| fabbione | morning mdz | 04:39 |
| Oskuro | hi matt | 04:40 |
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| fabbione | mdz: how urgent is #896? | 04:48 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: well, non-PIC won't work on amd64 ... | 04:55 |
| === fabbione is kinda busy with X atm... | ||
| fabbione | if it's urgent someone can do it for me please? | 04:58 |
| mdz | fabbione: not particularly urgent, but a policy violation | 04:59 |
| mdz | if it's only a problem on amd64, then perhaps Mithrandir can inherit it | 05:00 |
| === Mithrandir grabs it | ||
| fabbione | thanks guys | 05:02 |
| === Mithrandir would _really_ like ia32-libs to be promoted to main, so gcc can build. | ||
| Hrdwr_BoB | impressive | 05:04 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | sounder CD 7 causes this box to reboot when it boots .. not sure why | 05:04 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | sorry, sounder 6 | 05:06 |
| === HcE would like instant knowledge of how to make .deb driver packages for X4.3 and the kernel :) | ||
| Mithrandir | HcE: talk to fabbione about X, at least. | 05:08 |
| Mithrandir | or daniels, but he's working more on X.org packages, iirc | 05:08 |
| HcE | the lictouch driver should be ok to put into X, but I want to test it here first | 05:09 |
| HcE | it just takes forever to compile | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | HcE: get yourself a real computer. ;) | 05:09 |
| HcE | Mithrandir: can I send you the bill? :P | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | pft. | 05:10 |
| fabbione | HcE: use ccache :-) | 05:10 |
| HcE | it's mostly my error because I can't do it right the first time | 05:10 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: did you see my nagging about the lvm2 segfault? | 05:11 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: no. it's all day that i am working with X | 05:12 |
| fabbione | i barely read emails | 05:12 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: on the other channel. :) | 05:12 |
| fabbione | oh no.. | 05:12 |
| fabbione | sorry | 05:12 |
| Mithrandir | basically, did you manage to track it down? | 05:12 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: to a segfault in one ioctl on /dev/disc when /dev is devfs | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: yes, but it got fixed in Debian | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | seemingly. | 05:13 |
| fabbione | that's all i was able to see when using lvm2 inside initrd | 05:13 |
| fabbione | oh | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | ok, so you didn't get any further? | 05:14 |
| fabbione | no. | 05:14 |
| fabbione | but not even the submitter knows what has been fixed where and how | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | true | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | I'll see if I have the time to track it down, then | 05:15 |
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| fabbione | Mithrandir: if you have the setup is ok | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | wanders off, even | 05:15 |
| fabbione | otherwise it will have to wait a couple of days | 05:15 |
| fabbione | I am almost done (hopefully!) with X | 05:16 |
| Mithrandir | woo, cool | 05:16 |
| fabbione | at least now: | 05:16 |
| fabbione | 1) doesn't mangle your config file | 05:16 |
| fabbione | 2) the logic to calculate freq based on resolution is slightly better | 05:16 |
| fabbione | 3) it supports dynamic templates ${choises} for modes | 05:17 |
| fabbione | and a bunch of other fixes | 05:17 |
| fabbione | now i am doing postinst more robust | 05:17 |
| fabbione | before uploading and so on... | 05:17 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | what bootloader does the warty install CD use? | 05:18 |
| fabbione | syslinux | 05:19 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | hrm | 05:19 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | it reboots this duron machine | 05:19 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | but the debian install CDI have works | 05:19 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | SCSI DVD shouldn't make a difference? | 05:20 |
| mdz | Hrdwr_BoB: isolinux | 05:20 |
| mdz | the same as Debian CDs use | 05:20 |
| mdz | are you sure it's crashing that early? | 05:21 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | this deb CD is a bit old though | 05:21 |
| mdz | and not in the kernel? | 05:21 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | well I see nothing on the screen at all | 05:21 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | hangon I'll try it again | 05:21 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | yeah it doesn't appear that it's getting to the kernel at all | 05:22 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | though it might be a problem loading framebuffer | 05:23 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | or whatever it does | 05:23 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | it has a gf2mx in it | 05:24 |
| HcE | there | 05:24 |
| HcE | finally X is being built with the lictouch driver :/ | 05:24 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | well I have to go to bed, | 05:27 |
| HcE | hmm | 05:27 |
| HcE | ah, .au :) | 05:27 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | I'll have warty CD 7 by tomorrow, but I'm not sure it'll help, I might try a different video card | 05:28 |
| Hrdwr_BoB | hah yes it's 1:30am | 05:28 |
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| fabbione | argh.. | 06:20 |
| fabbione | what happened to ls --color ? | 06:20 |
| HcE | echo $TERM? | 06:20 |
| fabbione | linux | 06:21 |
| fabbione | as usual | 06:21 |
| fabbione | i didn't change that | 06:21 |
| fabbione | it's on console | 06:21 |
| fabbione | they are all too dark | 06:22 |
| HcE | hmm | 06:23 |
| HcE | I'm getting bad feelings about the lictouch driver to X4.3 :( | 06:23 |
| HcE | when I go up/down the pointer goes sideways :( | 06:24 |
| Mithrandir | icky. | 06:33 |
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| HcE | found the error | 06:37 |
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| HcE | some usb-mouse config in my XFree conf | 06:37 |
| HcE | now the monitor dosn't work at all | 06:38 |
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| Mithrandir | mdz: 896 seems ok, the TEXTREL segment is only present on i386 | 09:52 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: so, technically, it's a policy violation, but we can ignore it, as it's correct on amd64. | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | (and i386 doesn't care) | 09:53 |
| mdz | fascinating | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@golem(golem-i386) ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libmpeg2.so.0| grep TEXT | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | TEXTREL 0x0 | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | vs | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@golem(golem-amd64) ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libmpeg2.so.0| grep TEXT | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@golem(golem-amd64) ~ > | 09:53 |
| Mithrandir | just close the bug with FIXED and a comment? | 09:54 |
| mdz | NOTWARTY and a comment | 10:19 |
| mdz | it's still a bug in Debian | 10:19 |
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| SleepBoB | mdz more specifically | 11:58 |
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