ForsaKenin the kde/gnome display settings12:00
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psithe frequencies in XF86Config-4 are probably wrong12:00
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ForsaKenSection "Monitor"12:02
ForsaKen        Identifier      "FLATRON 795F"12:02
ForsaKen        HorizSync       30-9612:02
ForsaKen        VertRefresh     50-16012:02
ForsaKen        Option          "DPMS"12:02
ForsaKenSection "Monitor"12:02
ForsaKen        Identifier      "FLATRON 795F"12:02
ForsaKen        HorizSync       30-9612:02
ForsaKen        VertRefresh     50-16012:02
ForsaKen        Option          "DPMS"12:02
ForsaKenSection "Screen"12:03
ForsaKen        Identifier      "Default Screen"12:03
ForsaKen        Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9600 XT (RV350 AR)"12:03
ForsaKen        Monitor         "FLATRON 795F"12:03
ForsaKen        DefaultDepth    2412:03
whiprushtry that ForsaKen 12:09
whiprushnot the whole file12:09
whiprushjust the relevant section in monitor12:09
whiprushhmm, nm, wrong resolution.12:09
ioslipstreamis the updated synaptic freaking out on anyone?12:09
robertjHrmm, doesi t seem odd to anyone that locked icons can be removed from the panel?12:10
ioslipstreamdo a search, select an item from the search and the window just starts freaking out12:10
whiprushseems to be working for me ioslipstream 12:11
ioslipstreamwhiprush: did you update it today?12:11
ioslipstreamaka, is the find button changed to 'search' now?12:11
whiprushyeah mine says search12:12
ioslipstreamit was working fine for me until it updated this morning12:12
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whiprushcool I just noticed the little ubuntu logo next to the supported stuff12:13
ioslipstreamheh, yeah that's the new one12:13
ioslipstreami'm gonna try restarting gnome12:14
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_Hiro_is muine installable?12:27
joem_Hiro_, http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/000068.html12:28
_Hiro_thx :)12:30
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bolivarwhy dont the spell checkers work in evolution, OO, etc12:55
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uffeanyone who knows what languages gnome2.8 supports in ubuntu, any nordic languages ie. norwegian?01:06
theantixin case anyone here is interested, I built a netapplet .deb for Ubuntu, details at http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2004-September/001877.html01:08
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ioslipstreamuffe: i'm sure it supports norsk01:36
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uffeioslipstream, i'll have to try it to morrow then :)01:37
ioslipstreami think you'll like it a lot01:38
ioslipstreamvery nice01:38
ufferunning debian testing now, but gnome 2.8 is quite tempting01:38
UziMonkeyhas anyone been having trouble with dhclient not writing to resolv.conf?01:39
UziMonkeyif I move my machine to another network, it doesn't write a new DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf, it's the server from my home network01:40
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ioslipstreamuffe: it's nice because it is debian, kind of, seems to be a bit more polished for the desktop01:43
UziMonkeyall the goodness of Debian, none of the "stale package syndrome" without having to run unstable01:45
uffeioslipstream, great :) looking forward to try it. and i asume that i can use debian's unstable repository with ubuntu if i do miss some apps01:46
housetierI wouldnt do that01:46
UziMonkeyuffe: the universe repository has everything I've needed, but I wouldn't mix the two..01:46
uffeuzimonkey, i'll keep that in mind. try not to mix them01:47
uffethanks for the help to both of you ioslipstream and uzimonkey. for me it's time for bed... bye01:49
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LinuxJoneshope everyone is having a good evening !!02:01
azeemI sure do!02:01
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LinuxJonesParties rock !!02:01
axe9how the hell do I enable the Root user?02:06
axe9I'm getting REALLY sick of this02:06
schweebit's nearing time to leave for parties here, cept my car is broke02:07
whiprushsudo -s if you want a "root terminal"02:07
theantixaxe9, and then you can run "passwd root" to set your root password like normal02:07
azeemaxe9: personally, I never login as root, I just use sudo02:07
housetieraxe9, on the ubuntu homepage search for "root"02:08
azeemmy life is so much happier now02:08
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whiprushschweeb: I got ifolder running in ubuntu02:09
schweebI've still never used it02:10
axe9I can't writie to my fucking floppy disk02:10
axe9I can't isntall things02:10
axe9And I don't really wanna have to do EVERYTHING with the Terminal02:10
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axe9And now my mom has been bitching at me for the last 1 1/2 hours, telling me I'm gonna have to buy her a fucking computer02:11
housetierwatch your language please02:11
axe9I've only have linux a fucking week02:11
axe9but I'm VERY frustrated02:11
housetierand please try to be calm02:11
schweebso, basically, you want to log in to GNOME as root?02:11
joemaxe9, nobody is going to assist you while complaining like that02:11
schweebthat's utterly retarded.02:11
schweeband all the tools in Computer->System Configuration should do what you're looking for...02:12
schweebwithout CLI02:12
joemaxe9 http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html02:12
_Hiro_joem, thx for the muine tip earlier, it's playing great :)02:12
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joem_Hiro_, thank tseng for packing it02:13
punkasswell i got somewhat of a working version of a wireless scanner/connector going02:13
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_Hiro_thx tseng :)02:13
housetieraxe9, now if you could tell us what you want to install... error messages are helpful too02:13
whiprushwoo tseng fan club.02:14
sabdflaxe9: please read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct02:14
_Hiro_rhythmbox sadly has failed on each and every install and every distro I used :(02:14
theantixI suppose the fault is partly with us for suggesting cli solutions instead of the available gui solutions02:15
axe9Ok, I'm sorry, however, I've bene going around and around with people here, getting nowhere fast.02:16
axe9My brand new hard drive is toast02:16
axe9I can't access XP02:16
theantixaxe9, I can probably assist with that if you give a specific error message02:16
axe9My parents are gonna make me use the money i'm saving to buy myself a computer, to buy THEIR computer02:16
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whiprushput the XP disc back in and rescue it then02:16
_Hiro_yeah just install XP again02:17
_Hiro_or configure grub to boot XP :)02:17
axe9I WOULD but, my hard drive is dead02:17
_Hiro_define dead02:17
whiprushis linux running right now on the same drive?02:17
axe9dead as in:02:17
nanotechHey, i'm new to ubuntu, and linux, and was wondering if i could get a few q's answered...02:17
joemnanotech, just ask02:18
axe9I puill out the old one, and my machine boots to an error msg: "No hard disk."02:18
axe9I set it to master, with the old one as slave...02:18
_Hiro_check your ide cable or master/slave settings02:18
axe9still gone02:18
nanotechwhen i executed ./configure, i was notifyed that i didnt' have any ver of glib02:18
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_Hiro_do a "check for drives" in the BIOS02:18
axe9I'm not a total idiot,02:18
axe9done that02:18
joemnanotech, probably need the -devel package02:18
nanotechi checked archive.ubuntu.com to find it; found glib2.002:19
azeemthey are called -dev02:19
_Hiro_tried booting with just the XP drive in various configurations?02:19
axe9I've been into my case like 10 times02:19
UziMonkeyhas anyone been having trouble with dhclient not writing to resolv.conf?02:19
UziMonkeyif I move my machine to another network, it doesn't write a new DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf, it's the server from my home network02:19
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whiprushhow about putting XP on the working drive then?02:19
azeemnanotech: libglib-2.0-dev02:19
azeemnanotech: eh, libglib2.0-dev02:19
axe9my disk is missing files.. or.. something...02:19
nanotechheh, joem i was told that i needed a devel ver just recently...but this is a bit of background for my prob02:19
nanotechthanks azeem02:20
axe9I have a Win98SE disk someone02:20
whiprushwhat about the XP disc?02:20
nanotechwhat i DID was, apt-get install glib*02:20
_Hiro_warezed or something...  :p02:20
azeemnanotech: why do you need to compile something anyway?02:20
whiprushwhat software are you trying to build nanotech?02:20
axe9I tihn..02:20
nanotechi just wanted to learn how to complie02:20
axe9Got it from my friend..02:20
nanotechno NEED02:20
azeemnanotech: oh02:20
whiprushwell, better go spend 80 bucks for XP or fork over the price of a new PC.02:20
axe9actually, I used his diskl, and he burned me that one...02:21
_Hiro_so basically you have no XP disk?02:21
axe9I'm thinking that might be the only way.,,.02:21
azeemnanotech: you can install all the needed packages to build a particular package by running 'apt-get build-dep <package>'02:21
_Hiro_tell your parents Micerosoft killed the disk because they discovered it was an illegal copy02:21
_Hiro_problem solved02:21
axe9I've gone into menu.lst and tried every config I can think of02:21
azeemnanotech: however, you also need to 'apt-get install build-essential'02:21
nanotechmy q: is there a log of the packages i just installed/removed when i ran apt-get install glib*?02:21
theantixaxe9, have you tried UBCD?02:21
solowlrgreetings all02:21
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theantixaxe9, ultimate boot CD has a lot of tools for fixing lost windows partitions02:22
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axe9it's not a partition02:22
whiprushlooks like his bios isn't even recognizing the disk02:22
solowlri'd like to build a simple linux box for my kids to surf and play games on, would Ubuntu fit the bill?02:22
axe9it is..02:22
joemsolowlr, yea02:22
_Hiro_it may detecting it as CHS instead of LBA02:22
adaptsolowlr, yes02:22
axe9when it's plugged in, Ubuntu can't see it, but if I do a BIOS check, it's there..02:22
axe9I can't access it though...02:22
_Hiro_solowlr and don't forget tuxracer :D02:23
_Hiro_axe9 can you see it from a DOS bootdisk?02:24
nanotechis there a log for these packages? i didn't access any verbose logging when i ran the 'apt-get install glib*'02:24
nanotechaccess=put in an argument02:24
nanotechor is the term option?02:25
whiprushyou could check /var/cache/archives02:25
whiprushsee the actual packages.02:25
azeemnanotech: there is no useful loggin of installed/removed packages, sadly02:26
nanotechwould it be an easy function to implement? an option to enable writing to a log file when running apt-get?02:27
azeemI bet it has been a wishlist bug since more than three years now02:28
nanotechi'm sure of it02:28
azeemperhaps it'll get implemented soon (i.e. after sarge is out, if mdz continues to hack on apt-ge)02:28
azeemeh, apt-get02:28
stratusaka apt02:28
azeemyeah, yeah02:29
azeemstratus: it's APT, anyway :p02:29
stratusazeem, yeah02:29
stratusoops, moo02:29
nanotechhow can no-namers like myself contribute to the package dir tree? i'm thinking of trying to complie/package SILC02:29
nanotechas a personal "learn ubuntu" project02:29
LinuxJonesnanotech, what is SILC ??02:30
nanotechis there a faq?02:30
stratusnanotech, i guess that there's a wiki section talking about it.02:30
azeemnanotech: no idea, I'm not affiliated with ubuntu02:30
stratusSecure Internet Live Conferecing - SILC, right?02:30
stratusLinuxJones, in other words silc is irc on steroids.02:31
schweebthere is a FAQ and a wiki02:31
schweeband howtos02:31
LinuxJonesstratus, ahh encrypted and whatnot 02:31
schweeball on the website02:31
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nanotechfaq about packaging/compiling for ubuntu?02:31
whiprushan ubuntu developer's guide would be cool.02:31
schweebsame as packaging for debian02:31
whiprushI suppose you could just adapt the debian one02:31
schweebnot much to adapt02:32
stratusLinuxJones, no silc is more irc encrypted is just ircs.02:32
azeemwhiprush: the Debian Developer's guide doesn't talk about packaging though02:32
whiprushI'm confused then02:32
whiprushthe packaging guide02:32
nanotechi don't know how to compile yet...:( so i wouldn't even know how to compile this for debian let alone ubuntu02:32
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azeemwhiprush: the packaging guide has been somewhat merged with the Debian policy manual02:33
schweebwhiprush: nice - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/teams/laptop02:33
stratusnanotech, hmm so try to read first debian new maintainers guide.02:33
whiprushnew maintainer's guide.02:33
nanotechwill do02:33
LinuxJonesstratus, sounds cool I am checking out the silc website :D02:34
nanotechdoes ubuntu support mplayer?02:34
stratusLinuxJones, it really is but i don't know what's it's not being used by the masses.02:35
joebeastienanotech: there is an debian apt repo that might work on ubuntu02:35
azeemnanotech: no, but people have reported succes with running Marillat's mplayer packages on ubuntu02:35
nanotechi'm browsing synaptic package manager...and just populated an empty query02:35
theantixwooo... finally got straw to work on ubuntu02:35
joebeastieyea marillats repo02:35
nanotechsup joe02:35
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stratusnanotech, check the FAQ here - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions02:36
stratusnanotech, "How do i play DVDs?" is for you.02:36
stratusit fits your question02:36
nanotechheh, ty02:36
nanotechbtw...what's hunglish?02:38
stratusa funny name?02:39
nanotechnah, i somehow go it installed during my "glib*" fiasco02:39
nanotechwell, the package was dled...and i quit the installer. the istalled described a new keyboard layout02:40
azeemnanotech: apt-cache show hunglish or dpkg -s hunglish will display detailed information02:40
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nanotechi've noticed that i cant' navigate "lists" via keystrokes in ubuntu02:45
theantixlists? can you give an example?02:46
nanotechyeah; ex: the list of users in this room02:46
theantixin xchat?02:46
nanotech:P yeah...02:46
nanotechnot only xchat, however02:46
nanotecheverything in ubuntu, i've tryed it with...02:47
theantixnanotech, it works fine for me by clicking on the list and using up/down arrows -- must be something with your local config02:47
nanotecharrows are fine...02:47
nanotechtalking about letter02:47
azeemthat might not be implemented02:47
theantixah, didn't know that was a feature I was even missing02:47
nanotechlike this user list, i highligh a random user, and want to find all that start with "j"02:48
nanotechi'd type j02:48
nanotechand it'd highlight the first one with j02:48
azeemnanotech: file a bug02:48
schweeblots of applications don't do that, afaik02:48
nanotechwhere at? wiki.ubuntu.xxx?02:48
whiprushsee /topic nanotech 02:51
jdubmorning whiprush, azeem 02:53
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whiprushmorning jdub 02:53
jdubazeem: i watched a video lecture with totem + polypaudio last night02:54
jdubazeem: hooray for reasonable synchronisation :)02:54
azeemit was about time somebody KILLED esd02:54
whiprushhmmm, I wonder how mozilla-totem is coming along.02:54
whiprushjdub: I found a "rad" new applet: http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~kuliniew/rhythmbox-applet/02:56
jdubis that better because it has the controls available all the time, instead of in the menu?02:58
azeemhmm, I like Keybuk's proposal better02:58
whiprushI don't know about the time(!) on the panel though02:58
jdubazeem: is there an 'upstream version' variable available in debian/rules?02:59
jdubDEB_VERSION ...02:59
jdub(in cdbs at least)02:59
jdubbut not source02:59
azeemhmm, not sure03:00
azeempeople seem to awk/sed it out of debian/changelog usually, dunno if cdbs supports this (would be a worthwhile wishlist bug if not I guess)03:00
jdub'cos it has the debian versions, with/without epoch03:01
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jdubyo sri03:03
srihi jdub03:03
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schweebgaim just crashed03:05
schweeboh shit... something is hosed bigtime03:05
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schweebschweeb@incubus ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade03:06
schweebbash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error03:06
schweebschweeb@incubus ~ $ sudo03:06
schweebbash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error03:06
schweebschweeb@incubus ~ $ su03:06
schweebbash: su: command not found03:06
schweebschweeb@incubus ~ $ ls03:06
schweebbash: ls: command not found03:06
schweebuh. oh.03:06
stratuswelcome to the hard disk failure world03:07
schweebas long as /home and /files aren't hosed, I'll not be mad03:07
schweebnot necessarily hard disk failure03:08
schweebparition, kernel modules03:08
schweebcould be a number of things03:08
stratussmartctl saves (sometimes)03:08
whiprushthis happened to me 2 months ago, it was a HD failure.03:08
schweebon then Dell?03:08
whiprushmaxtor, 200gb drive03:08
stratusschweeb, if you're not doing anything strange with the system it's a memory failure or a hard disk one.I bet.03:09
whiprushI'm starting to wonder why the maxtor's are so much cheaper than everything else.03:09
stratusmaxtor? omfg03:09
schweebmaxtors exist to die03:09
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whiprushdude it was like, 90 dollars.03:09
whiprushI couldn't pass it up03:09
chutwigmaxtors are fine03:09
schweebwhiprush: ask G how many Maxtors he's been through03:09
stratusmy maxtor was in trouble a month ago, i've reallocated some sectors using smartctl and dd :)03:09
chutwigpretty much all hard drives will blow up equally03:09
whiprushyeah I heard.03:09
whiprushI need to rma it still03:09
chutwigi've had seagates die, maxtors die, WDs die, fujitsus die03:09
stratusMy samsungs are still alive (for years and years) and my maxtor is new and borked. ;/03:10
schweebchutwig: I've notived a huge disproportionality in favor of Maxtor sucking major ass03:10
chutwigschweeb: have you ever studied psychology?03:10
stratushard disks sucks buy more ram and run live cds.03:10
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schweebchutwig: have you ever studies real life03:10
chutwigaww, somebody's getting angry about whether or not i have the same opinion of maxtor as him!  how cute03:11
schweebI've talked to maybe 2 people that have had WD's die... I've talked to 20+ people with maxtors that died... this is IRL too03:11
schweebnot angry03:11
schweebyou're the one who said I was imagining it03:11
chutwigum, no03:11
chutwigi never said imagining03:11
stratusmaxtor sucks, case closed.03:11
chutwigyes, very scientific03:11
sabdflnight all03:12
chutwigi asked if you had ever studied psychology because i was going to follow up by saying that people will tend to look for the pattern they want and ignore other data03:12
stratusno, it isn't scientific buy a maxtor that won't fail early is lucky nothing really scientific here.03:12
schweebwhich is where the "imagining" came into play03:12
chutwigwhere is the word imagining even being implied?03:12
chutwigi never said or even implied that you imagined anything03:13
chutwigat most i implied that you were more likely to forget when a non-maxtor drive died03:13
schweeblet's just say that the Maxtor RMA department has its work cut out for them, plain and simpmle03:13
chutwigoh snap, witty comeback03:13
nanotechwhat app/packaget supports bulk mp3 playlists?03:14
schweeband now to reboot.03:14
chutwigbulk playlists?03:14
stratuschutwig, i've received 12 hard disks (SATA) from diferent vendors on the past six months, 5 of them was with problems. I run smart long test on each hard disk before put them in production servers.03:14
nanotechbulk playlists, as in more than one mp303:14
stratuschutwig, all of them were maxtors. Is it enough scientific for you?03:14
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nanotechi want to add whole dir's to my playlists03:14
chutwigstratus: 12 hard drives is not even remotely near enough to draw a proper conclusion from03:14
stratuschutwig, all HD failures that i see atm were with maxtors, so...03:15
LinuxJonesnanotech, rhythumbox will do03:15
stratuschutwig, i'm talking about the past six months only but we can consider the last ten years if you feel better.03:15
chutwigoh yes, please tell me the sordid story of your involvement with maxtor which i am so very eager indeed to hear03:16
stratuschutwig, no way i'm not planning to buy maxtor hds anymore.03:16
punkassill have a nice wifi scanner prog soon for anyone who wants it03:17
chutwigthe RSS feeds are depressingly quiet tonight03:18
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nanotechi ran apt-get to grab rhythmbox, and was notified that i already have the newest ver installed; where can i launch it? And how can i add programs like this to my task-bar?03:21
chutwignanotech: multimedia, music player03:21
chutwigif you want to add launchers to the panel right-click on them in the menu and tell it to add the launcher to the panel03:21
chutwigand it'll put it up there03:21
LinuxJonesnanotech, alt + F2 then type rhythmbox03:22
nanotechthanks for the hotkeys!03:23
nanotechuhhh, also...i have roughly 100+ gb of mp3's, and will be stress testing ubuntu thusly...i believe that r-box just crashed when trying to browse for my files03:25
nanotechthey are also stored aon a mounted ntfs part.03:26
nanotechq: does converting ntfs to fat damage the data on that part?03:26
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theantixnanotech, how do you convert ntfs to fat?03:27
nanotechnot exactly sure if it's even possible03:28
chutwigyou can go FAT32 to NTFS, but not the other way03:28
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theantixchutwig, exactly03:28
eulerI need some assistance with an ubuntu install.03:29
LinuxJoneseuler, shoot03:29
eulerIt gets to the point of installing the boot loader, but the boot loader install fails.03:29
eulerOn vt3, it says:03:29
eulerunable to fill /var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i with padding: No space left on device03:30
eulerBut a df -h shows that all my mounted devices have plenty of free space.03:30
LinuxJoneseuler, I had some problems installing and as it turns out, the cdrom that I burned the iso to was no good. Did you re-format the partitions during install ?03:32
eulerYes, I did03:33
eulerIn fact, I created them just for the purpos of installing ubuntu03:33
LinuxJoneseuler, I would re-start the installation again or is this a re-curring problem ?03:33
eulerI have restarted the installer a couple of times now.03:34
eulerI could do it again.  The last couple of times, I was attempting to install with just a 500 MB /var.03:35
eulerWhen this last install failed, I did go back and re-partition /var so that it was larger.03:36
LinuxJoneseuler, maybe you can delete the partitions and re-create them during the install setup.  03:37
LinuxJoneseuler, btw 500 megs is not much for var IMHO, there are lots of changes in packages in Ubuntu and some more space might be a good idea if you can spare it.03:39
eulerI know.  I keep forgetting that debian needs a lot more space in /var than most distro's.03:40
eulerI'm giving it 3 GB now.03:40
LinuxJoneseuler, :D03:40
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whiprushif whoever packaged netapplet is in here, thanks.03:44
hornbeckgreat program03:44
theantixwhiprush, no problem -- it worked for you?03:51
theantixfirst time I ever worked with debian packages, so I was a bit nervous ;-)03:52
eulerThat seems to have fixed it.03:52
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eulerJust for future iterations, it is probably a good idea for the installer to recommend a partition size when you are manually creating partitions.03:53
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LinuxJoneseuler, I am glad things are working out. You will love Ubuntu :D03:54
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eulerI'm glad too.  One of the partitions I wiped out had my grub installation from my last Linux install, and so when I killed it, I lost the ability to boot Windows (which my wife would kill me for).03:59
GoneBoBmy fiance uses linux now, and she scoffs at the people who uses windows :)04:01
LinuxJoneseuler, heh you should always have a backup of your bootsector when your dual booting :D04:01
eulerThe boot sector was just fine....04:01
LinuxJonesweall make mistakes :D04:02
LinuxJonesjsut tell ur wife that microsoft has a new version out called Ubuntu :P04:02
LinuxJonesit's a beta of Longhorn04:03
eulerGoneBoB: My daughter has some games that may not work under Linux.  And there is only one email client that my wife will use... Eudora.04:03
eulerOther than those few things, I think my family could use Linux easily.04:05
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eulerOk, what's the default root password.  It never prompted me to enter one.04:14
chutwigroot is disabled by default04:14
chutwigenter your own password04:14
eulerNo, I'm logged in, but what if I need to make changes to configuration files and such.04:15
chutwiguse sudo04:15
eulerI'm in the sudoers file by default?04:15
LinuxJonesnight all time for some Quake and music 04:20
eulerthat's cool.  I'm used to having to set that stuff up myself.04:22
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axe9dotcomNOTHING HELPS04:23
eulerUmm, is there any particular reason that vim isn't compiled for X?04:24
sriany support for ndiswrapper?04:27
Mithrandirno, but we're discussing how and where to include it04:27
sriok, cool.04:27
sriyeah, thas a problem given the philosophy04:27
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Mithrandirit's not possible to support, more or less.04:28
Mithrandireven if you don't look at the philosophical problems.04:28
srilicense issues?04:28
srior legal issues rahter?04:28
Mithrandirsri: support as in "being able to fix problems with", not support as in "make available".04:28
sriMithrandir: ah, yes..sorry, wasn't thinking in that vein04:28
Niteriderquestion, is flash and java included in ubuntu?04:28
sriNiterider: java isn't free software.04:29
sriflash might be, or rather swf04:29
sriof course I can't speak authoritatively, since I'm just a consumer04:29
Niteriderso if i choose to stick with this ubuntu, i can't have a jre for things like chat04:29
axe9dotcomIs anyone who knows my problem online?04:30
sriNiterider: you can if you download it from Sun's website04:30
axe9dotcomit's easy to install :D04:30
sriNiterider: it's just can't come with the cd thats all.04:30
Niteriderok...never done it for a deb based system, i assume i grab the self extracting...not the rpm...correct?04:30
sriNiterider: so it's just not possible to have it "out of hte box"04:31
Niteriderok...that's no prob04:31
Niterideri understand that04:31
sriNiterider: you can probably get rpm support, I don't know how you can have both packaging sytem, but someome may have made a deb of java somewhere.04:31
sriNiterider: try googling it04:31
Se7hdoes anyone has unreal tournament installed?04:32
Niterideri got used to having to get it when i used to use mdl, just been spoiled lately witrh things like mepis and such.....btw...i've only basically just installed this, but so far i love what i see04:32
punkassinstalling it now04:32
Niteriderk..i'll google04:32
sriinstall is still kind of buggy :/04:33
punkassNiterider: if you've updated to the new firefox (via apt-get/synaptic) i think it has a build in feature that gets flash for you04:33
Niteridercool, that's all i'll need04:33
punkassand as far as java goes..just get it from sun..and follow the instructions..its pretty easy04:34
Niterideri'll be back, gonna surf a bit, see if i can take to this gnome desktop...not usually a big fan of it04:34
Niteriderk...will do...thanks a bunch04:35
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punkasswlist scan would find to Cells both witht he same ESSID from the same router?04:35
punkassone has a MAC addy and one is just 00s04:36
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sriahh..there it goes04:37
srisomething ws wrong with the physical media in the last cd.04:38
whiprushsri: woo, you can make it!04:43
srialthough I can't seem to figure out how to make the ndiswrapper module04:47
sriwhen I do it says the format is wrong when doing a modprobe04:47
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jblacksri, want to proof them too? 04:48
jblackI've written 5 minihowtos on using arch.04:49
jblackI'm trying to write them at a rate of 1-2 a day04:49
jblackOk. I think I know your email04:49
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cybrjackle|lappyI saw during the install "lvm" during partioning, does it support creating lvm slices like /usr /var blah blah blah during initial install?04:53
cybrjackle|lappyi would assume yes04:53
cybrjackle|lappybut want to make sure before i move my server :004:53
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elmayamy ubuntu wont start, i did some updates and now it hangs when loading the splash screen in gnome :( 04:57
cybrjackle|lappyare you at the command line now?04:58
elmayanow im in windows jeje04:58
elmayais there a way like undu the updates04:59
cybrjackle|lappycan you "ctrl + alt + F1" when the splash screen locks04:59
elmayai can04:59
cybrjackle|lappyyou might try and do that, kill gdm04:59
elmayalet me restart05:00
cybrjackle|lappyand see what happens w/ startx05:00
cybrjackle|lappymaybe that will give you an error before gnome locks05:00
cybrjackle|lappybye :)05:00
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elmayaok command line now05:03
srielmaya: interesting, I"m running into the same thing05:04
cybrjackle|lappydoes startx give you an error05:04
cybrjackle|lappyor anything from /var/log/XFree86.*05:05
elmayais not an X error05:05
cybrjackle|lappyjust gnome locks up05:05
elmayagnome splash screen hangs and nothing happens05:05
sriyeah, I"m having the exact same problem..05:07
srinot sure whats causing it though05:07
elmayai uptated like everything was updatable and reboot then this05:08
sriI'm not certain what causes the hang05:09
srithe machine isn't looked up but gnome-session si refusing to forward05:09
elmayashould i reinstall?05:10
sriI wouldn't.05:10
cybrjackle|lappyi just checked updates for my self and gnome-panel gnome-panel-data are there to be updated05:10
cybrjackle|lappyI wonder if they are the bad debs05:10
elmayais there a way to remove those05:10
cybrjackle|lappyresintall +updates will probably get you to the same place05:10
cybrjackle|lappyI don't know if those are bad, i'm just stabbing at the dark atm05:11
cybrjackle|lappyapt-get remove 05:11
cybrjackle|lappyif you want to try05:11
cybrjackle|lappybut they could be deps to gnome as a whole05:11
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cybrjackle|lappygnome-panel is what is your "panel" so i assume that is needed.05:12
cybrjackle|lappyI'm not sure how you cold "roll back" the changes05:12
cybrjackle|lappylet me dig around05:12
elmayalike a "sistem restore" in windows hehe05:13
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defendguinthe kernel source wouldnt happen to be on the ubuntu install cd would it?05:14
elmayahey defendguin 05:14
jdubnup, too big05:14
jdubthe kernel headers are, though05:14
jdub(i think)05:14
jdubwhich should be all you need for most third-party build requirements05:14
defendguini cant get my wireless working 05:14
cybrjackle|lappyjdub, you see the problems people are having with gnome?05:14
defendguinkernel-headers is the package name?05:15
sricybrjackle|lappy: yeah, mine is like a fresh cd from today I think05:15
jdubcybrjackle|lappy: apt-cache search kernel-headers05:15
tsengjdub: stuff ive buildt has wanted a build/ link in /lib/modules/blah to the kernel source05:15
jdubcybrjackle|lappy: apt-cache search linux-headers05:15
cybrjackle|lappywhat do you want the whole list?05:15
jdubcybrjackle|lappy: you want the whole list :)05:16
defendguinjdub, were you telling me to do that search?05:16
jdubyeah, sorry05:16
jdubinterleaved questions05:16
jdubcybrjackle|lappy: no idea05:16
jdubcybrjackle|lappy: which problem?05:16
cybrjackle|lappynot me, but a couple people can't get into gnome05:16
elmayai can't05:16
jdubwhat's happening?05:16
elmayagnome splash hangs05:17
cybrjackle|lappythe only updates i see for me tonight are gnome-panel & data that have to do with gnome.05:17
cybrjackle|lappyi did some updates about 3-5 hours ago05:17
jdubelmaya: what happens if you click on the splash?05:17
elmayathe mouse works05:17
elmayabut nothing more05:17
jdubdo you have a ~/.gnome2/session file?05:17
elmayalets see05:17
defendguinhmmm i already have the headers installed05:18
cybrjackle|lappycan you "roll back" upgrade's in apt-get ?05:19
defendguinwhen i make it is looking for a /lib/modules/2.6.blah/build directory05:19
elmayajdub: i believe not05:19
srijdub: I got the same problem05:19
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srijdub: I brought up gnome without gnome-session05:20
cybrjackle|lappyhow woudl you bring up gnome w/out gnome-session?05:21
elmayaif i create anothe user..should it fix it?05:22
axe9dotcomThe hell I'm not the owner!05:23
axe9dotcomHow do I set myself up as the rootusr / owner05:23
sricybrjackle|lappy: I run X so it only pulls up an xterm, and then I start doing metacity, gnome-panel, nautilus05:23
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, sudo passwd root05:23
sricybrjackle|lappy: it's not all of it but it's enough to see which parts might be causing the problem05:23
cybrjackle|lappysri, try opeing gnome-pannel05:24
elmayatrying with another user05:24
srihowever, strace on gnoem-sesion tells me that it's polling file handle 1705:24
sricybrjackle|lappy: it works fine and I did an apt-get upgrade earlier05:24
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sri17 works out to be /tmp/orbit-sri/bonbo-activation-server-ior05:24
axe9dotcomhow do I do things like changing permisions?05:26
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, for what05:26
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hiweedhey buddies05:26
hiweedhow to mirror ubuntu archives, i386 only?05:26
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srikilling the activation server, makes the process go further05:26
cybrjackle|lappyhiweed, are you askig for mirrors of ubuntu for deb packages?05:27
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elmayawell same thing.. 05:27
axe9dotcomI want to move somethign into my Mozilla dir05:27
cybrjackle|lappyjust add one of those to your /etc/apt/sources.list05:27
elmayawhere are the daily images isos?05:27
axe9dotcombut it says I'm not the owner05:27
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, like a plugin?05:27
cybrjackle|lappydid you try "sudo" in front of it?05:28
sriso it looks like the culprit maybe gnome-settings-daemon05:28
hiweedOh no, cybrjackle|lappy05:28
axe9dotcomthe jre one05:28
cybrjackle|lappysudo cp <filename> /wherever_it_is05:28
axe9dotcomI installed it05:28
cybrjackle|lappyjust use "sudo" in front of whatever you are doing05:29
elmayawhere are the latest isos of ubuntu?05:29
axe9dotcombut I still need it in the plugins folder to view java05:29
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, ^^05:29
hiweedI wanna mirror ubuntu i386 arch to my LAN, to give local poeple an apt-source05:29
elmayai hate to reinstall :(05:29
cybrjackle|lappyhiweed, ah05:29
axe9dotcomI wasn't using the terminal................05:29
srielmaya: if you re-install especially with the latest version it'll still mess up05:29
srielmaya: there is somethign going on wtih gnome-session and gnome-settings-daemon05:29
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, you need to, your doing root stuff05:30
srielmaya: are yous till at the part it's hanging?05:30
elmayaso i reinstall with the original and don't do updates05:30
cybrjackle|lappyyou need to make links, not copy05:30
hiweedcybrjackle|lappy, thanks for your replay.05:30
axe9dotcomHow do I do.. tha..05:30
srielmaya: right05:30
srielmaya: but there is one workaround if you want to try it05:30
cybrjackle|lappyhiweed, so you want to d/l all the debs from a mirror to your local box and turn that into a repo for local lan users?05:30
elmayaor i wil wait to release...or rc05:31
hiweedI wanna mirror only the i386 arch, howto? does deb-mirror package still works?05:31
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, what are you doing with java?05:31
srielmaya: do you want to try it?05:31
cybrjackle|lappyj2re, sdk, what do you have?05:31
axe9dotcomTRying to set it up for the web05:31
elmayasri: whats the workarround05:31
axe9dotcomso i can see java things05:31
hiweedyes cybrjackle|lappy05:31
srielmaya: do a control-alt-F1, login,05:31
srielmaya: then do a ps auxww | grep bonobo-activation-server05:32
srielmaya: kill the PID associated iwth it (eg kill <number>) and it should continue forward05:32
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, follow this:  http://serios.net/content/debian/java.php05:32
elmayalets see05:32
srimake sure you do control-alt-F7 to get back to this screen :)05:33
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cybrjackle|lappyhiweed, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.html05:33
eulerjblack: I would be interested in looking at your arch howto's as well.  I am a novice arch user.  I used it for one of my classes last year, but I could never get the hang of being able to work the way I like with it.05:33
jblackeuler: Ok. I'll send you some prepublished ones that you can review, with the promise that you'll tell me how understandable they are. :) 05:34
jblackwhat's your email address? 05:34
almostluckywhat is the command I would run to show if I have a certain package installed, vim for instance?05:34
jblackdoes everyone use gmail these days? 05:34
elmayasri: well it worked... a screen warns that themes wont work 05:34
hiweedThank you cybrjackle|lappy. God bless you!05:34
elmayathanks for the tip sri 05:34
eulerIt's the new geek "in" thing :)05:34
Hmmmmm_anyone using kde with ubuntu?05:35
cybrjackle|lappynot i05:35
eulerjblack: cool.05:36
cybrjackle|lappyhiweed, here is another one.  https://www.bioinformatics.uwaterloo.ca/~tvinar/wiki/index.php?DebianLinuxPackaging05:36
jblackHmmmm: I am.05:36
sriI didn't think kde was in unbuntu yet05:36
eulerhmm, bioinformatics...05:36
jblacksri: I don't know if it's completely working yet, but the last time I checked, it was *VERY* close.05:36
cybrjackle|lappyeuler, whats up w/ bioinformatics?05:37
cybrjackle|lappyi'm just googling 05:37
hiweedGREAT MAN, cybrjackle|lappy05:37
srijblack: okay..it'snot I'm waiting with bated breath or anything I'm not a kde user :)05:37
Hmmmmm_anyone using kde with ubuntu?05:38
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Hmmmmm_jblack, did u apt-get kde 3.3?05:40
eulercybrjackle|lappy: I work with bioinformatics people.05:40
cybrjackle|lappyi thought it was either that or there something wrong with the people, or maybe both :)05:40
sriI'm a little confused on how to build a module using the debian kernel-headers05:41
srimake KSRC=/path/to/kernel/headers?05:41
tuppasri: make-kpkg modules_image05:41
jblackNo. I'm using 3.205:41
jblackBack when I installed kde, ubuntu wasn't doing it, so I pulled that from debian.05:41
Hmmmmm_jblack but did u apt-get it?05:41
jblackactually, dselect may be out of date. Let me update first05:42
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Hmmmmm_what are the packages you requested for?05:42
Hmmmmm_the thing is i wana migrate from fc2 to ubuntu05:42
Hmmmmm_and i luv gnome 2.805:42
Hmmmmm_but my bro uses kde05:42
Hmmmmm_so i need to make surei cna get kde05:43
jblackActually, I am at 3.3. sorry for the confusion05:43
Hmmmmm_which packages did u requets for?05:44
calckde 3.3.0 for sid is being updated this week05:44
calcso you can probably pull it in or recompile it for ubuntu05:44
Hmmmmm_but is kde available for ubuntu?05:45
cybrjackle|lappyin "universe" i believe05:45
Hmmmmm_and when is 3.3 expected?05:45
cybrjackle|lappy# wajig show kdebase05:45
cybrjackle|lappyPackage: kdebase05:45
cybrjackle|lappyPriority: optional05:45
cybrjackle|lappySection: universe/kde05:45
cybrjackle|lappyVersion: 4:3.2.2-1ubuntu205:46
jdubHmmmmm_: probably not until hoary05:46
cybrjackle|lappymeans it is in the universe pool05:46
Hmmmmm_wud it be safe to pull it off a sid repository?05:46
jdubHmmmmm_: no05:46
GoneBoBHmmmmm_: not recommended05:46
Hmmmmm_well i guess i cna make do with kde 3.2 then05:47
Hmmmmm_what packages shouldi request for?05:47
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Hmmmmm_can i just do: " apt-get install kde"?05:47
jdubyou should be able to05:47
axe9dotcomApt-get isn't working for me...05:48
cybrjackle|lappyjust add "universe" to your sources.list05:48
cybrjackle|lappythat was to Hmmmmm_ ^^05:48
Hmmmmm_universe is added to my sources05:48
cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, remove that java from your sources.list05:49
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cybrjackle|lappyaxe9dotcom, follow this guide http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian05:49
Hmmmmm_cybrjackle|lappy, so i can now just "apt-get install kde"?05:49
axe9dotcomI am05:49
cybrjackle|lappyi would think Hmmmmm_05:49
sriokay, I have a feeling that the reason I can't get ndiswrapper to load05:50
Hmmmmm_kewl thanks05:50
cybrjackle|lappyi don't use kde, but i don't use/install it05:50
Hmmmmm_i dont use it either05:50
sriis because the compiler used to compile the debian kernel and what I'm using are different05:50
Hmmmmm_my bro uses it05:50
cybrjackle|lappyi just did an apt-get install kde and it has 255 pacakges to install, so yes :005:50
sriwhat version of gcc was used to compile ubuntu's kernel?05:50
Hmmmmm_he warns me that if i dont install kde he'll make me install windoze05:50
cybrjackle|lappygcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-9ubuntu5)05:50
Hmmmmm_cybrjackle|lappy, thanks for ur guidance05:51
cybrjackle|lappysri, cat /proc/version05:51
Hmmmmm_are there any linux tools for converting dat files to mpeg?05:52
srihm..the gcc versions match05:53
sriI don't knwo why I can't seem to modprobe ndiswrapper05:53
GoneBoBHmmmmm_: why do you need to - mplayer plays them as it05:53
cybrjackle|lappysri, did you build it as a modules05:53
GoneBoBas is05:53
cybrjackle|lappyis it already loaded05:53
sriit dies in wrapper_init, and it says "check utils version mismatch"05:53
Hmmmmm_a friend wants something converted05:53
Hmmmmm_i dunno why05:53
defendguinhow do you install a source deb file?05:53
Hmmmmm_GoneBoB, do u know how to convert it?05:54
cybrjackle|lappydefendguin, apt-get source <name>05:54
sricybrjackle|lappy: I did, well, here is what I did.05:54
sricybrjackle|lappy: apt-get install linux-headers-
defendguincybrjackle|lappy, i have not internet connection05:54
sricybrjackle|lappy: then in /usr/src I linked linux-headers-2.6.8-1-2 to linux (symlink)05:55
GoneBoBHmmmmm_: mencoder can do it, but man mencoder is your friend05:55
sricybrjackle|lappy: then in teh ndiswrapper source area, I just typed make and it started toc ompile it05:55
defendguini did dpkg -i foo_source.deb05:55
Hmmmmm_thanks GoneBoB05:55
axe9dotcomWhy isn't sudo apt-get updates working?05:55
sricybrjackle|lappy: and then make install05:55
defendguinbut that didnt seem to build anything05:55
sricybrjackle|lappy: any ideas?05:56
sricybrjackle|lappy: the only other thing I can do is build a custom kernel05:56
cybrjackle|lappywhy did you make a link to linux?05:56
cybrjackle|lappydid you get the kernel-source pacakges sri,05:57
sricybrjackle|lappy: cybrjackle|lappy easier than make KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-x.x.x05:57
sricybrjackle|lappy: I haven't. I thought you only needed the linux-headers05:57
cybrjackle|lappyhum, not sure05:57
sricybrjackle|lappy: if you're going to just make a module from the stock debian one05:57
sriI think my plan of attack is to build a new kernel06:00
sriand just do it that way06:00
cybrjackle|lappysri, do you need gcc installed?06:01
cybrjackle|lappydo you have it installed06:01
sriI did06:01
srianyways, I'll work on it later.06:03
sriI'm sure I can do it with a custom kernel06:03
sriin fact I did earlier, I'm just not able to do it..06:03
cybrjackle|lappyi need a smoke and some more caffine, going to be up tell 5am working on stuff.. :(06:03
cybrjackle|lappyi'm out for now, l8r all06:04
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axe9dotcomHow do I make a dir in a protected folder?06:10
defendguinwhere are the kernel headers kept?06:14
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Hmmmmm_how do i install java in ubuntu? i need to run limewire06:18
joemgo to the sun site and follow the instructions06:19
defendguinHmmmmm_, lime sucks use giFT and giFTui06:19
Hmmmmm_cant i apt-get java?06:19
Hmmmmm_likei did in fc2?06:19
joemjava isn't free software, so it isn't on the mirrors06:20
Hmmmmm_any unofficial deba?06:20
Hmmmmm_any unoficcial debs?06:20
jdubHmmmmm_: read ubuntu-users, or the FAQ06:21
axe9dotcomjava isn't free?06:21
jdubaxe9dotcom: 'Free', no, 'free', yes.06:21
Hmmmmm_its hard to believe that some kind soul hasnt built a deb for it06:23
joemIt is pretty easy to install the binary from the sun site06:24
joemor so I have heard anyways06:24
jdubHmmmmm_: there are numerous mails on ubuntu-users and items on the faq that point to packages06:24
Hmmmmm_joem, i'll give it a shot06:24
Hmmmmm_jdub, thanks06:24
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defendguinthe kernel header files are not available on the CD :(06:31
lamontno linux-headers- package?06:33
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defendguinlinux-kernel-headers but i was told this was the user space headers06:34
lamontlinux-kernel-headers is userspace, linux-headers is for building kernel modules and the like06:34
lamontcertainly available over the network if it's not on the CD.06:35
defendguinlamont, i need the headers to build my driver to make my card work06:35
defendguinso i can get on the net06:35
lamont... so that you can get on the network.06:35
lamontthe stuf in restricted (which should be on the CD..) doesn't have it?06:36
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defendguinhmmm ok let me add chack again06:36
defendguinnot there06:36
axe9dotcomwhat's the chmod command for changing a folder to write/read/execute06:37
joemaxe9dotcom, man chmod06:37
joemwill give you all the different options06:37
defendguinmaybe i can just download the file from this computer06:38
axe9dotcomthanks ^^06:39
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defendguini cant seem to find where to download the file from06:39
ionrockhello, I just installed ubuntu on a laptop and when I did it I didn't have the network plugged in, I had to enter dns server entries manually. How can I specify that I want it to try and get the dns servers automatically06:41
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defendguini must say this sucks06:41
axe9dotcomHow do I make symbolic links/06:43
whiprushln -s sourcefile targetfile06:43
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axe9dotcomto create a symbolic link to the java thing, to my usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ folder Ido...06:45
ionrockthe reason I ask is when I was installing it there was a note saying that I could use a specific utility to setup the network06:45
defendguindoes no one know where i can download a ubuntu deb file?06:46
whiprushln -s /whereeverjavais/plugins /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins06:46
Hmmmanyone know of any good repositories for ubuntu?06:46
whiprushI have the right one06:46
whiprushHmmm: try this: http://www.arslinux.com/~jorge/sources.list06:46
ionrockI have used the normal universe archives06:47
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goatboy_defendguin: which deb?06:47
defendguinor kernel-headers06:48
Hmmmwhiprush, thanks06:48
defendguinwhichever i need for building the ndiswrapper06:48
Hmmmbut wont this debian stuff be bad for my system?06:48
whiprushHmmm: your mileage may vary, but it works for me06:48
Hmmmok thanks06:48
defendguinmuch appreciated06:49
axe9dotcomln -s /home/family/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/06:49
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whiprushln -s /home/family/j2re1.4.2_05/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/06:49
whiprushyou want that libjavaplugin_oji.so at the end there too06:50
Hmmmwhiprush, this stuff looks cool. thanks a ton for these repositories06:51
whiprushI should probably add the symlink thing06:51
axe9dotcomit did it anyways06:52
axe9dotcomjava still doesn't...06:52
Hmmmi installed ubuntu a few days back06:53
whiprushoh wait06:53
whiprushfor firefox06:53
whiprush /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:53
Hmmmand i wana now use my main /home directory that i share between fc2 and mdk with ubuntu06:53
Hmmmcan i do it on the fly?06:53
Hmmmif os how?06:53
whiprushln -s /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:53
whiprushthat should work06:53
whiprushHmmm: they need to be seperate partitions06:54
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Hmmmya i hav a separate /home on my machine06:54
Hmmmbut when i instaled ubuntu i didnt setup a /home06:54
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Hmmmcoz i wasnt sure how ubuntu would feel06:55
AgrajagHmmm: edit /etc/fstab and make /home your home partition06:55
Hmmmnowi luv it too much06:55
Hmmmi wan dump fc2 totally06:55
HmmmAgrajag is that all?06:55
axe9dotcomstill oesn't work06:55
AgrajagYou'll need tomake sure everything will still point at the right places06:55
Agrajagsame username?06:55
Agrajaghome at /home/username?06:56
Hmmmadapt maybe it wub be easier to just do a resinatl?06:56
Agrajagnot at all06:56
Hmmmso i jus edit my fstab06:56
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Agrajagjust change that setting in fstab06:56
Hmmmmake sure that my username is the same06:56
Hmmmand thats it?06:56
Agrajagthen you'll need to move your current /home06:56
Agrajagand make an empty /hme to serve as a mountpoint06:57
Hmmmwhere do i move that?06:57
Agrajager, empty /home06:57
Agrajagjust rename it when you're ready06:57
Hmmmwhat do i put in my fstab?06:57
whiprushI lose all my bookmarks everytime I start FF.06:57
Agrajagmv /home /home-old06:57
Hmmmpartition is hda806:57
Agrajagwhat filesystem06:58
Hmmmso i log out06:58
Hmmmedit /etc/fstab06:58
Agrajag/dev/hda8       /home           ext3 noatime         0       206:58
Hmmmmv /home /home-old06:58
Agrajaglog out, log in on a VC as root, edit /etc/fstab, move /home, and reboot06:59
axe9dotcomhow do I delete stuff/06:59
Agrajagmake sure root has a password, so you can log in as root if this goes bad06:59
axe9dotcomis it del <filename>06:59
Agrajagvirtual console06:59
Agrajagdon't log into gnome as root06:59
Hmmmi cant log into gnome as root anyay 06:59
schweebyou don't need to have a root password...07:00
Agrajagyes, because root has no password07:00
schweebyou can still log in to your user on a virtual console07:00
schweeband use sudo07:00
Agrajagschweeb: what happens then, if he has no home?07:00
schweebsame as always07:00
Agrajagschweeb: uh07:00
schweebit'll just say no home07:00
schweeband set his home as /07:00
AgrajagI suppose07:00
Agrajaggo for it07:00
Hmmmthanks man07:00
axe9dotcomdeleting locked files07:01
Hmmmhow do i change the userid in ubuntu?07:01
Agrajagnot "erm", "rm"07:01
schweebthat's what it's done for me numerous times with my LDAP users when they don't have a home07:01
Hmmmcoz i need to put the same uid as fc207:01
Agrajagaxe9dotcom: what do you mean by "locked"?07:01
schweebHmmm: are you dual booting?07:01
AgrajagHmmm: change it in /etc/passwd07:01
schweebor did you switch?07:01
Hmmmwell im using multipe linux distros07:01
Hmmm5 of them right now07:01
Hmmmok thanks07:01
schweebahhh, okay, then changing the uid is the right way07:01
Hmmmi want to switch07:02
Agrajagit goes user:pass:UID:GID:ECOS:home:shell07:02
schweebI was gonna say, you could use chown if you had switchted entirely07:02
axe9dotcomby locked, I mean the chmod is set so I can't delete anything or write anythig to the folder07:02
Hmmmbut i dont wana jump thats all07:02
Hmmmone step at a atime07:02
Agrajagaxe9dotcom: fix the permissions, or delete it as root if you can't do that07:02
Agrajagroot can delete whatever the hell he wants07:02
axe9dotcomwhat the command for delete in root?07:03
Agrajaguh, it's still rm07:03
axe9dotcomI tried del and delete...07:03
Agrajagthat's DOs crap07:03
Agrajagif you ned root privileges, use sudo07:03
Agrajagsudo rm <file>07:03
Agrajagor sudo rm -r <directory>07:04
Se7hhow can i reduce font size of the taskbars ?07:04
axe9dotcommozilla crashd!07:05
axe9dotcomah screw it..07:07
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Se7hhow can i reduce the taskbar font size?07:23
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Hmmmmm_hi guys07:24
Hmmmmm_looks like my /home transfer pretty much worked07:24
Hmmmmm_thanks for all ur help07:24
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eulerOk, I'm screwed...07:49
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Maiswondering if any of you have worked through the nvidia kernel driver issue07:54
Se7h44 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:54
Se7hNeed to get 92.0MB of archives.07:54
eulerI can't boot into my windows partition.07:56
deFryskeuler, hitted the esc button when grub started ?07:58
euleryes, I think the boot record of the windows partition got messed up.  It just seems to freeze once I leave grub.07:59
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eulerSe7h: Yes?08:01
Se7htry to delete the "savedefault" line08:01
Se7hand then boot it08:01
deFryskwhere is grub.conf in ubuntu ?08:01
eulerI entered the command line and tried it without that line, and it seemed to have the same problem.08:02
eulerI will edit the menu.lst file though, and remove that line.08:02
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Se7heuler just boot into grub08:03
Se7hpress "e"08:03
Se7hand "d" to delete it08:03
Se7hthen.. "b"08:03
Se7hi had that prob but with ubuntu08:03
Se7hand it solved it08:03
Se7hthe savedefault line is alternative08:04
Se7hno need to be there08:04
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eulerThat doesn't seem to have helped.08:06
Se7his th hd(x,x) well configured?08:08
Se7hi mean08:08
Se7hto the right partition08:08
eulerI believe so.  root is set to (hd0,0).  My windows install is at /dev/hda108:09
Se7hif it's hda1 its correct08:10
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Se7hpress tab in case u want to see all available partitions08:10
Se7hi gotta get to bed08:10
deFryskSe7h, thanks for the save default tip08:10
Se7hur welcome08:10
Se7hglad to be helpful08:11
Se7hits 7.11am here08:11
deFryskah , uk08:11
Se7hi got to get some sleep08:11
deFrysk811 am here08:11
deFryskjust got up an hr ago08:11
Se7hu early bird08:12
Se7hyes, portugal here08:12
`-`southwest corner of canada ;)08:13
deFryskalso bedtime there08:13
deFryskbedtime anywhere ,<exept holland>08:13
deFryskSe7h, have you been on #ubuntu all night ?08:14
deFryskgeez , and now sleep on the beach i bet08:15
Se7hvery quite 08:15
Se7hbeatch ?08:15
deFryskbeach seaside08:16
deFrysknot near the coast ?08:16
Se7hyeah i know08:16
Se7hpretty much08:16
Se7him from lisbon08:16
Se7hwell...indeed its a little hot08:16
Se7hbut i got school monday08:16
deFryskwe have rain storm and cold here08:17
Se7hto bad08:17
Se7hwell then08:18
Se7htake care now08:18
deFryskk, night08:18
Se7hbye bye now 08:18
deFryskmorning I mean ;p08:18
Se7hyeah ::p08:18
deFryskrealplayer10 works as plugin in firefox :)08:19
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Maiscan anyone help me out with a graphics issue- im running an AMD64 with a Nvidia 6800GT (AGP Obviously) Xserver won't initialize because it can't find a display device. I've been poking around online and I'm noticing that it is an issue. 08:35
punkasswhat driver are you using?08:36
MaisI've atempted installing the Nvidia drivers from the nvidia website but it fails due to a lack of a nvidia kernel08:36
MaisThis is from a fresh install08:36
punkasswell i know they are working on a nvidia-glx 64bit package08:36
punkassi believe fabbione is the guy to talk to about that08:37
punkassyou can get the kernel source if you search for linux-source08:38
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fabbioneMais: you nedd the linux-kernel-headers08:38
fabbioneno need for the full source08:38
punkassah ok08:38
punkassthere ya go..from the man himself08:38
Maisdidnt notice him in the UL08:39
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eulerI'm going to have to get my hands on a win2k boot disk to fix my partition boot record, aren't I.08:40
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deFryskeuler, still no go ?08:43
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eulerNope.  I'm not sure why either.08:48
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daldermanmorning all08:56
eulerI mean, ubuntu shouldn't be touching the partitions boot record.08:56
daldermananyone here got some kernel compiling knowledge?08:56
daldermanI have recompiled my kernel and applied the alps patch from the xfree86-driver-synaptics package but it I seem to have a problem.08:57
daldermanFirstly my framebuffer display appears to be broken on boot as I get no text display.08:58
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daldermanAnd secondly I am now getting errors with HAL on boot08:58
daldermanline 199 in hald.c drop_privelages(), no kernel support08:58
Hmmmmm_im looking to migrate from fc2 to ubuntu08:58
eulerIt's possible that the patch changed some things that affect both of those.08:58
daldermanwhy would it remove drop_privelages()?08:59
Hmmmmm_how to i backup my evolution 1.46 data and move it to evolution 2 in ubuntu?08:59
daldermanI shall check the patch further, but I guess a good way to check is simply to recompile the kernel from scrath without the patch myself huh08:59
daldermanjust wondered if anyone else had seen either of these09:00
eulerSince I don't use a synaptics touchpad, no, I haven't.09:00
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daldermanHmmmmm_, I think you just need to save your evolution dir from your home, when you start the new one it should upgrade09:00
eulerYah, I was about to suggest that.09:00
daldermaneuler, no, but have you made a new kernel in Ubuntu at all?09:00
Hmmmmm_dalderman, but i just tried it and gives me some sorta error09:01
eulerNo, I haven't.  I just installed ubuntu tonight.09:01
Hmmmmm_has anyone managed doing it?09:01
daldermaneuler, I was wondering if there was an issue with linux-source09:01
eulerDid you get the linux-source package, or did you grab a kernel.org kernel?09:01
daldermanHmmmmm_, sorry not sure, I don't know much about evo, but I know a man who does, but he isn't here at the oment09:01
fabbionedalderman: you need to compile the kernel the "ubuntu" way09:01
Hmmmmm_im just so sick okf fc2's sluggishness09:01
fabbionedalderman: it's not enough to apply a patch and compile09:01
daldermaneuler, linux-source09:02
daldermanfabbione, what's different then?09:02
daldermanfabbione, I used make-kpkg09:02
daldermanfabbione, so I did it the "Debian" way09:02
daldermanfabbione, AKAIK09:03
daldermanI can't type today09:03
daldermanfabbione, are there some Ubunut specific instructions somewhere?09:04
fabbionedalderman: make-kpkg should be ok09:04
daldermansee, told you I can't trype today :-)09:05
fabbionedalderman: which kernel did you compile?09:05
daldermanfabbione, I used linux-source-
fabbionedid you grab the default config before running make-kpkg?09:06
daldermanfabbione, from /boot, yes09:06
fabbionehmm strange09:07
daldermanfabbione, I did a make menuconfig and changed the arch to 58609:07
daldermanfabbione, Indeed, that's why I thought something could be borked, but as you say, the patch may be fiddling things but I wouldn't have thought it would break hald09:08
daldermanthe patch is in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-driver-synaptics/alps.patch.gz09:09
fabbionedalderman: more than hald it disabled capabilities in the kernel09:09
daldermanfabbione, indeed, I shall create a clean source tree and just recompile a plain kernel to test09:09
daldermanfabbione, although I imagine someone else must have tried recompiling a kernel09:10
fabbionedalderman. try to talk with Herbert Xu09:11
fabbionehe is our kernel guy09:11
daldermanwhat's his nick?09:11
fabbionehe doesn't irc09:12
fabbionemail him09:12
fabbioneor mail ubuntu-users09:12
fabbione(that's even better)09:12
daldermanI shall get more data first09:12
daldermanI shall also consult my mate Ross (soundjuicer man)09:12
lypanovumm la la la09:12
daldermanhe's quite good at this stuff too09:13
lypanovdoes anyone have a clule how to recover data from ext2?09:13
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lypanovi think i'll start asking the distros for someone to code this feature into one of the fs's09:13
lypanovcus linux majorly sucks :)09:13
fabbionelypanov: e2undel09:13
cleelypanov: :D09:13
sivangKamion : around?09:14
lypanovclee: flatmate accidently deleted 12gbs of my music collection09:14
cleelypanov: DUDE09:14
eulerlypanov: There are some aliases that can be set up to keep that kind of thing for hapening...09:14
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Hmmmmm_lypanov, id hav killed him if i were u09:15
Agrajagor you could just not give anyone but yourself write access09:15
eulerOf course, in your case, it could have caused a different issue.09:15
cleelike 'alias rm="echo 'Oh, yeah, like I want to remove this.'"'09:15
eulerAgrajag: There is that.09:15
Agrajagalias rm=logout09:16
sivanglypanov : linux majorly sucks?09:16
eulerThere was a book that came out some time ago that had a number of useful scripts.  One of these was something akin to the trashcan on the macs, and the recycle bin on windows.  Basically, rm's don't really delete files, but move them to another location to be cleared out later.09:16
eulerNot that it does lypanov any good at this point...09:18
nanotechis there by anychance a "visual" programming language for linux? Like visual C++ for linux?09:18
sivangnanotech : have you ever heared of KDevelop ?09:18
samuraisivang: create a script to perform this function....09:18
nanotechis should say visual programming environment09:18
daldermannanotech, eeeewwww, but there is glade and stkmm09:18
eulernanotech: There are a couple of commercial IDE's available.  I can't say that I have used any of them though.09:19
sivangyes, and glade 09:19
daldermanglade rocks09:19
sivangI have used KDevelop together with trolltech's visual GUI design tool - they usually rock.09:19
daldermanglade + gtkmm + emacs/gvim is all you need09:19
sivangyou said it right, dalderman!09:20
eulerSpeaking of gvim, I notice it isn't available in ubuntu.  Any reason for that?09:20
daldermansivang, we use them at work, I was working on a pluggable hardware emulator using them09:20
daldermaneuler, vim-gtk09:20
eulerdalderman: I did an apt-cache search for vim, and it didn't show up.09:20
daldermaneuler, are you using universe?09:21
eulerI have no idea.  I just installed ubuntu about 3 hours ago.09:21
nanotechi got vim...09:21
eulernanotech: I got vim, but not gvim.09:21
daldermaneuler, then no, check your /etc/apt/sources.list09:21
nanotechyou can config synaptic to snag from universe too09:22
eulerdalderman: Is universe the equivalent of unstable?09:22
daldermaneuler, in there are some lines commented out that have the universe stuff in, swap those lines round with the ones that are in use09:22
lypanovsivang: yup. it sucks :)09:22
daldermaneuler, not sure, I think so09:22
daldermaneuler, might be testing09:22
lypanovclee: yer. there are workaround to stop it09:22
lypanovclee: but nothing to fix it09:23
daldermaneuler, I am still a bit of a Debian newbie myself09:23
lypanovclee: which is pretty lame09:23
cleelame indeed.09:23
lypanovas i've now lost 12 gb's of data09:23
nanotechi read in the faq that universe and test was diffrent...let me double check09:23
lypanovso i'm just about ready to break my flatmates face :)09:23
nanotechthat uni=unstable09:23
daldermansivang, I met Murray C at Guadec last year, I bought him beer :-)09:23
eulerI've been using Debian since 1998, and I still don't have those straight :)09:23
samuraiisn't it a more heavily tested and certified version of unstable09:24
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nanotechfrom the wiki faq: Then click OK. You have just added Christian Marillat's unstable repository to the file /etc/apt/sources.list. (Note: most folks on the IRC suggest using the unstable distribution. I actually used the testing distribution--for no good reason that I can remember--and it worked. In the above, that means I would have replaced unstable with testing.)"09:25
nanotechhe explains that what he's walking one through is the universe config09:26
nanotechand compares it to unstable...so *I* think uni=unstable09:26
punkasssweet i have a somewhat functional gui wifi detector/connector going09:27
nanotechhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions if anyone wants to double check09:27
Zindaruniverse = stuff from debian unstable that's not supported by warty... it's there but not supported...09:27
nanotechi agree09:27
nanotechw/ zindar09:27
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lypanovme clears out 12gb's of free space and prays that e2undel does its job :)09:34
eulerIs there a way in Gnome to specify alternate keyboard shortcuts?  I use Enlightenment, and I have a couple of keys bound to "switch to next/prev workspace".  I would like to do the same thing on gnome.09:39
daldermaneuler, Compuer -> Desktop Preferences -> keyboard shortcuts09:40
daldermandamn my arthritic fingers!09:40
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punkassanyone wanna try out a wifi detector program?09:49
tuo2thaytan: there is an impersonator here :)09:49
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thaytantuo2: so I hear :)09:54
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scaroohi ppl ! is there a place where i can find the changelogs of ubuntu packages ? ie : what differs between packageubuntuN and packageubuntu(N+1) ?10:41
FLeiXiuSI wwould try the website10:41
scarooi did, but couldn t find that10:42
joebeastieapt-get install apt-listchanges i think10:42
joebeastiethen each time you upgrade a package it should tell you the changes10:43
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scaroojoebeastie, ty gonna triy it asap10:44
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Sirius_Blackhi guys - has anyone compiled mplayer in ubuntu yet?  any doc pages anywhere?10:59
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vrlnis there a "unstable/current/development" version of ubuntu once it's released? (something that's always moving and can be updated to). Or does one have to update only every 6 months as if it was a debian stable kind of release?11:04
bagpussI would imagine that as soon as warty is released, you'll be able to use warty+1 and update to that (hoary is it?)11:06
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vrlnso it's not goint to have a constantly moving (public) tree like debian testing/unstable?11:08
bagpussI don't know11:08
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thomvrln: we may have a "crack of the day" system at some point in the future; once hoary is opened we'll have a relatively unfrozen tree for a while but it'll lock down fairly rapidly in terms of upstream11:12
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bagpussthom: is the release process: release $version; imeediately take a snsapshot of debian/unstable and freeze it alsmost instantly; spend 6 months making the snapshot releasable; wash, rinse, repeat?11:15
thombagpuss: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/HoaryHedgehog_2fReleaseSchedule :-)11:18
vrlnok, thanks to both of you :)11:18
Treenakswarty final/gold is planned for my birthday :)11:21
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punkasswell finally have a working wifi scanner/connecter going :)11:24
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Nonphasissuddenly i can't log in11:28
Nonphasisgnome session terminates immediately11:29
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TreenaksNonphasis: it should give you a dialog window with a "Something's wrong!" message and an option to see the session error log11:30
Nonphasisyeah, I got that11:30
Nonphasisthere's nothing alarming, apart from a warning about ICE-authority11:30
Nonphasis/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp11:31
Nonphasis/etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/bin/X11/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "ville"11:31
Nonphasis/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...11:31
Nonphasis** (gnome-session:13156): WARNING **: Unable to read ICE authority file: /home/ville/.ICEauthority11:31
Nonphasisis that ICE authority important11:32
TreenaksNonphasis: could you start a shell, and look at that file?11:32
Nonphasishmm, I seem to need to chown it11:33
TreenaksNonphasis: just remove it..11:33
TreenaksNonphasis: it should be re-created11:33
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Nonphasisthat worked11:34
TreenaksNonphasis: ok :)11:34
Nonphasisapparently xcdroast ekperiments as root botched it11:35
TreenaksNonphasis: use the Nautilus CD burner11:35
Treenaksthat Works11:35
Nonphasiscan it create audio cds?11:35
Nonphasisi guess not, that's why i tried to use k3b and xcdroast11:36
TreenaksAccording to the .po file (messages) it can11:36
Nonphasisneither worked, btw11:36
Nonphasisi couldn't see the switch for the functionality11:36
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netdurhow to install deb package? I tried "dpkg -i" seems not working11:39
azeemyou need to run dpkg with sudo11:40
Nonphasisi mean the err msg11:40
azeemnetdur: but anyway, running dpkg -i should not be needed. Why do you not use synaptic or aptitude?11:40
netdurwell, I did "sudo -s"11:40
netdurI have adsl usb modem which doesn't work on linux11:41
netdurdo I boot into windows to download packages and install it offline11:41
bitserfnetdur: you have just the one machine?>11:43
netdur"sudo -s" and "dpkg -i" there no error message... act like it installed... but there nothing in "/usr/share" and "/etc"11:43
netdurI have laptop and desktop11:43
Nonphasispackage problem then?11:43
azeemnetdur: if you enter a rootshell with sudo, /sbin is not in the $PATH, and dpkg fails because it does find stuff and barfs11:43
bitserfnetdur: i'd stick the modem on a windows box and turn on internet connection sharing if you have a switch11:43
azeemnetdur: dpkg --contents *.deb tells you which files are in a package11:45
azeemnetdur: dpkg -l <package> tells you whether it's installed and its version11:45
netdurok, i'm going to try it11:45
bitserfnetdur: dpkg -D10 -i package.deb still gives you no output?11:46
netdurwell, I havr to reboot into ubuntu to try... I will connect from laptop... brb11:47
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netdursorry guys that package is installed... "dpkg -L" told me it's place...12:14
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netdurwhy it show everything (folders and files) as icon (gnome foot) in fat partitions ?12:18
werewolfHi all, how to reactivated the standard menu in gnome 2.8?12:18
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netdurin FAQ they said... they don't know how to answer "hello"12:34
Treenaksnetdur: what do you mean?12:35
Treenaksnetdur: you browse to a FAT disk, and all files have a "Gnome foot" icon?12:36
Treenaksthat's strange -- on my FAT disks (memory card from my camera) it shows previews etc.12:36
Treenaksdid you change your icon theme?12:36
netdurother linux partitions work fine12:37
Treenaksnetdur: what is the "MIME-type" (you can see it by right-clicking and selecting 'Properties')12:40
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netdurright click deleted my files12:41
netdur20 giga of data12:42
Treenaksnetdur: right click does not delete files12:42
netdurno, it's not... right click do hide files12:42
Treenaksnetdur: you might want to unmount and re-mount...12:43
netdurmount -t vfat /dev/hda11 ~/.mnt/hda1112:46
netdurthe same problem12:46
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netdurI think it would be easier if someone made script that detect partitions and moount every boot12:48
Hmmmhow do i migrate from evolution 1.46 (fc2) to evolution 2 (ubuntu)?12:49
TreenaksHmmm: just start evolution 2..12:50
TreenaksHmmm: it'll start migrating12:50
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deFryskhow can i make the nvidia module load at boot ?12:53
TreenaksdeFrysk: just install it, and have an nvidia card, I think?12:53
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TreenaksdeFrysk: or do you mean the X driver?12:54
deFryskyes , but does not load12:54
joemdeFrysk, add it to /etc/modules12:54
deFryskxdriver yup12:54
HmmmTreenaks, actually evolution is making a mess of it12:54
deFryskk thnks :)12:54
deFrysktoo easy hehe12:54
Hmmmi just dumped the evolution folder as it is12:54
Hmmmand now when i start ev2 in ubuntu12:54
Hmmmi get this:12:54
Hmmmdelete or remind me later12:55
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TreenaksHmmm: I don't know then..12:57
TreenaksHmmm: do you still have the FC install?12:57
TreenaksHmmm: you could export everything from 1.4, then import that file in 2.012:57
Hmmmya i do12:58
Hmmmhow do i do the exporting?12:58
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TreenaksHmmm: I don't know...12:58
Hmmmi cant see anything like that in ev 1.4612:58
TreenaksHmmm: maybe you need more than just the Evolution directory12:59
HmmmTreenaks, ya perhaps01:00
Hmmmanyone here successfully managed it?01:00
TreenaksHmmm: I auto-upgraded when 2.0 was still 1.5.x01:00
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deFrysknvidia running :)01:05
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Nonphasiswhat is module-assistant01:07
asdfadfgnice work on ubuntu guys01:07
deFryskthats a module installer aid01:08
deFryska debian tool01:08
Nonphasiswhat's the executable, cant see it on my system01:09
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nanotechq: my volume control shows two mixers...how do i disable one of them?01:23
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Marbleanybody knows a repository with mplayer compiled for ubuntu?01:31
jblackdid you try apt-get source mplayer? 01:32
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Marblejblack ammm01:33
jblackmarble: pardon? 01:33
Marblesearching in synaptic for mplayer01:34
Marblethere is no packet01:34
jblackGive me a moment01:34
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jblackHmm. 01:35
jblackLooks like its not in ubuntu yet? Here's what I did01:35
jblackI donwloaded the mplayer debs from ftp.us.debian.org, and ran dpkg -i on them.01:35
Marbleand they work for ubuntu too?01:35
jblackThey do for me. ;) \01:36
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Marbleoks, i'm going to try it01:36
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Marblewoody, sarge or sid?01:38
jblackI used sid, myself01:38
Marblei cannot find any .deb in this ftp01:42
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MirnoEssayez iRate ! c'est de la balle !!01:47
Mirnowoops sorry for the french01:47
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YauolzLook at that Girl with 3 Pupss http://www.enchant.ru/go.php?login=Begimot  :DDD this is not a virus :DDDD02:02
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nk___hi there. I need a small app. a kind of organizer. like... I can write a to-do list that is displayed on the desktop or s.th. similar. any suggestions?02:39
lypanovhow to get gcc working? :)02:39
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lypanovits freaking tiny :)02:39
lypanovchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:39
lypanovSee `config.log' for more details.02:39
lypanov /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory02:40
lypanovtask-c-devel doesn't wanna work :(02:40
danielsgot libc6-dev installed?02:41
lypanovah :02:41
lypanovthx daniels :)02:41
lypanovdaniels: aptitude rocks btw :)02:41
azeemaptitude has serious usability issues, IMHO02:42
lypanovapt-get is even worse tho :)02:43
azeemsynaptic is promising, but needs HIG love and more GNOME integration02:43
housetierbut then I am very used to aptitude, I have trouble using synaptic02:45
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danielslypanov: rad02:48
lypanovokay this is seriously an absolute ass02:51
psyklopswasn't it like "build-essential" or something?02:52
psyklopsapt-get install build-essential02:52
lypanovgot all of it already then i guess02:53
lypanovthat just installs dpkg-dev02:53
lypanovthx tho :)02:53
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azeemlypanov: build-essential is only build-essential. Packages also have other Build-Dependencies02:54
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azeemlypanov: apt-get build-dep <package>02:54
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housetiermoin carlo 02:56
lypanovdaniels: i'm impressed. you guys actually really do have a clue :)02:57
supertedjblack: ?02:57
carlowhat clue?02:57
lypanovdebian/ubuntu improved a shit load since i last tried it :)02:57
jblacksuperted? 02:58
lypanovyoyo jblack :)02:58
azeemlypanov: Build-Depends are around since the 90s02:58
lypanovazeem: not talking about that :)02:58
azeemokie, just checking :)02:58
lypanovyay. compiling :>02:58
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lypanovtalking about the bison-1.35 package :)02:58
supertedjblack: i can't find any mplayer debs on ftp.us.debian.org02:59
azeemsuperted: there are none02:59
azeemsuperted: google for 02:59
azeem'Marillat mplayer' or so02:59
superted< jblack> I donwloaded the mplayer debs from ftp.us.debian.org, and ran dpkg -i on them.02:59
carlohow can I play wmv file?02:59
carlohow can I play wmv file?02:59
jblacksuperted:I'll find them for you in a few minutes I'm in a conversation atm)02:59
lypanovcarlo: mplayer :)02:59
supertedthanks :)02:59
carlogive me a source for mplayer03:00
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lypanovuniverse doesnt' include?03:00
carlono it doesn't03:00
tseng deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main03:00
carlohey guis what do you about ubuntu?03:02
tsengwhat about it.03:02
tsengyoure missing a verb.03:02
carlowhat do you think...excuse me03:03
lypanovit rocks :)03:04
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carlook...there is any program like k3b for gnome?03:05
lypanovsomeone said universe had k3b03:05
carloi need to burn some dvd...03:05
deFryskcarlo, like as bloated , no03:05
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lypanovk3b works at least :)03:05
lypanovanything that compares yet?03:06
deFryskright klick an iso and burn03:06
carloi know..but it came from kde...03:06
lypanovand if anyone says xcdroast i'll kill 'em :)03:06
JanneMcdrecord? :)03:06
jblackok. where was I...03:06
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deFryskfare ye well all03:06
jblackmplayer debs. you still need that? 03:06
lypanovJanneM: thats what i use in fact :)03:06
JanneMme too, actually03:06
lypanovand cdrdao :)03:06
lypanovboth wonderful :)03:07
lypanovi guess ubuntu has full ide cdrdao?03:07
carloanother question...03:07
supertedjblack: i found marillat's reps03:07
carlohow can I EASILY set up a firewall?There are any visual tool for gnome 2.8?03:08
jblackgnome-lokkit doesn't do it for you? 03:08
JanneMfirestarter is ok if you need more configurability03:09
carloi need an easy tool...just like something you can find on mondrake10...03:09
carloi'm going to install lokkit03:11
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supertedwhen i click on a .mpg in epiphany and open it with totem it just plays the sound03:15
deFrysksuperted, i had that in fedora, a second atempt did the job there03:17
supertednope :\03:19
deFrysktoo bad 03:19
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supertedhow can i choose/change the default video player ?03:25
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ubuntuHi all. My 1st 10 mins. with ubuntu03:26
cardadorhello. anyone know how to solve "unable to install initrd-tools" problem?03:28
psyklopsubuntu: How do you like it?03:30
ubuntuCertainly different than RH 9.0!03:30
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ubuntuWhat is the diff between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?03:31
Marbleanybody knows how to get guifications (gaim plugin) for ubuntu?03:32
JDubuntu: update downloads all the metadata, upgrade downloads the actual updated packages03:32
JDMarble: there is a deb on the guifications website. it should work03:32
HcEubuntu: apt-get --help gives you all information03:32
ubuntuJD Tnx. I was a bit worried as I saw several filenames with debian in them & saw somewhere that they were not compatible.03:33
JDubuntu: you probably want to use something like synaptic or aptitude03:33
MarbleJD: it does not :-(03:33
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JDMarble: what breaks?03:33
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MarbleJD: it does not appear in plugin list03:33
MarbleI supose it is becaus is built for gaim 0.8203:34
Marbleand not for 1.003:34
JDquite possibly03:34
Marblei have found that there are too missing software in the repository03:35
Marblejedit, sancho, mono, mplayer, guifications....03:35
Marbleall those things are in Gentoo portage03:36
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Marbleand with Ubuntu I have to be adding third-part repositories or just forgetting to install03:36
vrlnmplayer & plugins can't be official packages because of legal issues, it's not exactly ok to distribute windows/quicktime codecs03:37
vrlnand there might be some dll:s too I quess03:37
Marblevrln: yes, I can understand that... but what about the other software?03:37
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vrlnno idea about the others, but the mplayer+codecs thing is in almost every distro03:38
JDMarble: no-one has bothered to package them in debian03:38
Marblea pitty03:39
JDmono is in debian03:39
JDmono - The Mono .NET development environment03:39
Marblefor ubuntu I have had to add a external respository03:40
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Zombdoes ubuntu include the 1.0.x mono packages?03:44
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beezlyZomb: I don't believe it does yet.03:53
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p0intMithrandir: wha...? i didn't know limi uses debian\ubuntu...05:57
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bob2who says he has to? ;-)05:58
defendguini need to find the debs for the ubunut kernel headers so i can transfer them to a computer without network access05:58
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danielsbob2: could be either06:00
defendguinnevermind i found them06:00
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Mithrandirp0int: no idea if he uses it, but he's been doing plone work for us.06:02
Capribob2 Mithrandir: thanks. I've sent an mail to the lists.06:03
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SlackeerbCan someone help me I download a .rar file but i cant unrar it with file roller.06:05
linux_mafiakrischan, http://osuosl.org/06:05
deFryskapt-get install unrar ?06:06
supertedSlackeerb: just type unrar x file in a term06:06
Nonphasisdebian unrar sucks06:06
deFryskNonphasis, not on my box06:06
Nonphasisjust download the unrar source and compile06:06
supertedNonphasis: is there so much to it ? :)06:06
Nonphasisso much?06:07
Slackeerbsuperted: why cant I use file roller 2 do it. =(. And there are mutipule files.06:07
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bob2because only warez gets distributed in rar files.06:07
deFryskSlackeerb, fileroller will do it after installing unrar06:07
NonphasisSlackeerb, you can use file roller after compiling the unrar source06:07
bob2file a wishlist bug on fileroller06:07
supertedNonphasis: what sucks about it?06:07
CapriSlackeerb: I think file roller uses the command line tools.06:07
bob2Nonphasis: unrar-nonfree handles all obscure variants, afaik06:07
Nonphasissuperted, it has diffrent switches, and can't open all files06:08
SlackeerbNonphasis: how do I compile unrar from source?06:08
deFrysk ./configure06:08
deFryskmake make install06:08
NonphasisSlackeerb, go d/l the source and run make -f Makefile.unix06:08
supertedNonphasis: oh06:08
bob2is there any actual reason to build it from source instead of using the Debian package?06:09
SlackeerbNonphasis: where do I download it from? =)06:09
deFryskbob2, not that I know of06:09
Nonphasisthe debian package doesn't work with file roller06:09
Slackeerbbob2: how do i get the deb package?06:09
NonphasisSlackeerb, wait06:10
Slackeerbok =)06:10
NonphasisSlackeerb, http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm06:10
NonphasisSlackeerb, it's the "unrar source"06:10
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housetierI wonder why file-roller handles .rar very well06:11
housetierI didnt install (un)rar from source06:11
Slackeerbnonphasis: its downloaded should i extract it?06:11
Nonphasisdidn't work for me06:11
NonphasisSlackeerb, yes06:11
Slackeerbk its extracted to my desktop06:12
Nonphasismost importantly, debian unrar croaks on some archives06:12
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Slackeerbnonphasis: now what?06:12
NonphasisSlackeerb, look for Makefile.unix or a file nawe like that06:13
Treenaksyou want the debian package, not the source06:14
NonphasisUbuntu should really support rar, ace and the workos out of the box06:14
tsengNonphasis: why...?06:14
tsengthere are alot of linux users downloading trojaned, virus infected windows software?06:14
Nonphasistseng, I'll venture to guess that occasionally people want to open such files06:14
Treenakstseng: I know lots of people who pack movies in .rar... and because they don't know anything but rar, they also send .docs etc06:15
Nonphasistseng, not just software... music, viedo06:15
SlackeerbNonphasis: ok sorry back pizza was burning. lol06:15
SlackeerbNonphasis: i agree06:15
Slackeerbnonphasis: i found the file06:15
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NonphasisSlackeerb, ok, now, in console, type make -f Makefile.unix06:16
TreenaksNonphasis: or just get the .deb from ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/r/rar06:16
Slackeerbmake: *** No rule to make target `Makefile.unix'.  Stop.06:16
NonphasisSlackeerb, substitute thta file name for the file you found06:17
Treenaksthat works better (i.e. tested, you can uninstall it easier, it upgrades magically if ubuntu decides to support it..)06:17
NonphasisTreenaks, the unrar in debian couldn't open all files for me06:17
SlackeerbNonphasis: should i just use the deb lol06:17
TreenaksNonphasis: this is rar... the Official Rar06:17
deFryskthe unrar.deb does not work indeed :(06:18
SlackeerbTreenaks: i got the .deb how do i install it?06:18
Nonphasisany reason why rar is not in universe?06:19
TreenaksSlackeerb: sudo dpkg -i file.deb06:19
deFryskbecause it does not work ?06:19
TreenaksNonphasis: because it's in debian non-free06:19
TreenaksdeFrysk: uh.. it works fine06:19
TreenaksdeFrysk: for me at least06:19
deFryskTreenaks, not on mine06:19
defendguinanyone here know anything about wireless?06:19
deFryskor it must be that the file is on a fat32 partition06:20
defendguinhow to set one up anyway06:20
TreenaksdeFrysk: you must've used the free re-implementation of unrar..06:20
deFryskhttp://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/unrar i got :|06:20
SlackeerbTreenaks: its installed. =). now lets see if it works06:20
TreenaksdeFrysk: just plug it in and configure your network from Computer -> System Configuration -> Network06:20
SlackeerbTreenaks! u fule06:20
Slackeerbit works06:20
TreenaksSlackeerb: good luck :)06:21
bob2Slackeerb: it's called "unrar-nonfree"06:21
SlackeerbUbuntu should support this06:21
Treenaksbob2: there's rar (which is the non-free rar), unrar-nonfree (which is the non-free unrar-only version) and unrar (which is a free re-implementation of rar)06:21
Treenaksbob2: afaik06:21
TreenaksSlackeerb: report an "Enhancement" bug...06:21
Slackeerbwell guys thx im off 2 eat06:21
Slackeerbbtw does anyone know how 2 burn a .dmg cd image?06:22
defendguinmy little link monitor says 100% but i cant seem to browse the web06:22
Treenaksbob2: unrar is of course the free re-implementation of unrar-nonfree06:22
Treenaksdefendguin: did you set up your WEP key?06:22
defendguinand i dont seem to have an ip address06:22
Treenaksdefendguin: does your AP do DHCP?06:22
defendguinTreenaks, i think i have WEP disables for the time being till i get it workign this way06:23
defendguinTreenaks, yes it does DHCP for all my wire connections.  might it be doing somehthing different for wireless06:23
Treenaksdefendguin: did it work before?06:23
defendguinthis is my first time setting up wireless06:24
Treenaksdefendguin: you should break down problems into smaller ones, until you've found the cause06:24
Treenaksdefendguin: so wireless does not work, but you have link -> check if the accesspoint does DHCP06:24
defendguinTreenaks, i would do this and use this methoid much for solving problems but i am not fimiliar with my situation06:24
Treenaksdefendguin: also, check if you _asked_ for an IP (read the logs)06:24
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deFryskthe non-free version works yes 06:25
defendguinTreenaks, check the router logs?06:25
Treenaksdefendguin: no, your PC06:25
Treenaksdefendguin: read files in /var/log to see if your DHCP client asked for an IP06:26
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defendguindaemon.log? or should there be a dhcp.log?06:27
Treenaksdefendguin: try daemon.log.. and messages.. and syslog06:27
Treenaksdefendguin: grep for dhclient06:27
Treenaksdefendguin: stuff like that06:27
defendguinit does say no DHCPOFFERS recieved06:28
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vdaronI've found a repository with mono, and I d'like to try it (http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs/) How can Add this repository in my package system (sorry, debian beginner question ...)06:29
thomas__can I trust ubuntu to leave my fedora install on hda2 as it is and just install on hda3 ?06:29
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defendguinTreenaks, i checked my rother and it has DHCP enabled06:30
linux_mafiadefendguin, what card06:31
linux_mafiadefendguin, do you have? heh06:32
defendguinits a linksys i have to use the ndiswrapper 06:32
defendguinits uses the rtk8180 driver06:32
defendguinits the card that came with my router so im sure they work together06:33
defendguini tried to use the network tool that comes with ubuntu. that didnt seem to work06:34
tsengvdaron: sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list06:34
tsengvdaron: add deb-src http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ and save and quit06:35
tseng(Ctrl+O Ctrl+X)06:35
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defendguinwhenever i try to activate it just deactivates 2 seconds later06:37
vdarontseng : sources.list modified ok, But the after the update (using the interface) the mono packages are'nt yet listed ... any idea ?06:39
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tsengvdaron: apt-get update?06:39
defendguinwhen i do iwconfig it says for l0 and sit0 no wireless extensions06:40
tsengdefendguin: you have the driver loaded properly?06:40
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defendguintseng, i think i do 06:40
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tsengsee dmesg06:41
tsengafter loading the driver for some debugging info06:41
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defendguinyeah the ndiswrapper is there and it loosk like it loaded the driver properly06:42
tsengdoes it show up on ifconfig -a06:43
defendguinbut also says wlan0: no IPv6 outers present06:43
defendguinwlan0 shows up when i do ifconfig -a06:44
defendguinalso l0 and sit006:44
tsengtry dhclient wlan006:44
linux_mafiadefendguin, what does: sudo dhclient wlan0 give you06:44
tsengto get an address06:44
linux_mafiagreat minds think alike06:45
tsengi guess06:45
vdarontseng: repository added, but packages seems uninstalable , what does it mean ??06:45
tsengvdaron: youll have to be a bit more specific06:45
tsengit sounds like you a) didnt add it properly06:45
tsengor b) didnt update06:45
tsengand are still looking at the broken mono pkgs in universe06:46
defendguinit runs DHCP Discover on different intervals06:46
defendguinport 6706:46
vdaronOk  fine ! I've got it !06:46
vdaronThanks a lot :06:47
tsengvdaron: cool06:47
defendguinno DHCP offers recieved06:47
tsengdefendguin: this isnt a minipci card is it?06:47
defendguinno its a normal card06:47
tsengwait do you have the router broadcasting ssid06:48
tsengor turned off06:48
tsengiwlist wlan0 scan shoudl show your ap06:48
tsengif not you have a problem.06:48
defendguinSSID Broadcast is enabled06:49
defendguini ran that scane before and it shows up06:49
tsengare you using wep06:49
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defendguinwhen i ran the dhclient it showed the Subnet Mask was on my router it says its subnet mask is
defendguinis this right?06:51
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tseng255.255.255.255 is broadcast, not a mask06:51
tsengit sends the request out to all hosts on that segment06:52
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defendguinwell im stumped06:54
tsengndiswrapper didnt work for me on my old laptop06:54
tsenglast thing i can think of06:55
tsengis manually setting up networking06:55
tsengset an ip, and default route, try pinging the router06:55
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tsengip has to be in the right subnet06:56
defendguineverything is on
defendguini tried setting it up manually with the gui06:58
defendguindidnt work06:58
defendguinhmm netowrk un reachabel07:02
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defendguindestination not network07:02
infoDonkeyi'm trying to set up a dual-boot winXP/ubuntu system. got everything installed but i'd like to mount the win ntfs partition read/write in the linux filesystem, and the linux ext2 partition read/write in windows. how is that done, and does it present security risks?07:04
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p0intomg, ubuntu rocks..07:05
topyliinfoDonkey: it is not done :)07:05
infoDonkeytopyli: what do you mean?07:05
topylintfs write support is very dangerous, and windows doesn't read ext2/307:06
subterrificinfoDonkey: make a FAT partition to share files07:06
topyliexcept with a little utility called explore2fs iirc07:06
linux_mafiatopyli, correct07:06
infoDonkeytopyli: what is dangerous about ntfs write support?07:06
topyliit might break ntfs :)07:07
subterrificyeah, microsoft doesn't like people writing file system drivers for windows07:07
infoDonkeysubterrific: what is a FAT partition?07:07
defendguini guess i need to buy a wireless card thats supported07:07
infoDonkeybasically i'm looking to leave the system in linux except when i need windows stuff..in which case i07:07
infoDonkeywould like to access my home directory from windows07:07
defendguinnot sure if that would help since ndiswrapper seems to be working07:07
p0inthm.. what are good mount options to use for /boot and / ?07:07
topyliinfoDonkey: fat32, the old windows filesystem that win 9x used07:07
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subterrificinfoDonkey: what do you need windows for?07:08
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infoDonkeyperiodic testing of things that are either windows apps or require IE. i do software design and evaluation and sometimes it has to happen in windows, much to my dismay07:08
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topyliinfoDonkey: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm07:08
infoDonkeywhat are drawbacks to fat32 as my main fs?07:09
infoDonkeytopyli: ideally i'd rather not have to deal with specific client software (instead of the OS-level filesystem manipulation)07:10
infoDonkeywhat i'm really hoping to do is essentially use the same home directory in both places via symlinks/shortcuts07:11
topylii'd just make a small fat32 partition, which both linux and windows can read-write07:11
topylitwo machines would be better, one for each system. then you could actually have the same home dir in both :)07:12
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infoDonkeytopyli: true. but then if i need to disconnect from the network or something there go my files07:13
infoDonkeyplus i'd have to figure out how to configure win to do that :-p07:13
topyliwhat? disconnect? we don't do that do we? =)07:13
topyliwell, the LAN is supposed to be up at least, so you can share the home dir and printer.07:14
infoDonkeyi frankly wouldn't trust a windows box's network connection :-p07:14
topylihey, i have a win98 box that works well. of course, i don't keep any data on it :)07:14
infoDonkeytopyli: nah, windows is fine. it just gets crankier than other OSes in my experience07:15
lypanovinfoDonkey: i use windows xp with a colinux installation inside it :)07:15
topyliyep. windows runs ok as long as you don't install any applications or keep any data on it. mine has only office and acrobat IIRC :)07:16
infoDonkeylypanov: given that the rest of my machines are mac os x what i'm hoping to do is avoid having a windows box on the network as often as possible, since they reduce the security of the LAN overall07:16
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infoDonkeytopyli: the other reason for keeping all the files on a single box is that i've run out fo space on my other hard drives and this machine (since i only use it for testing) has tons of space that i can share out to other machines on the network07:17
topyliyes, just take space where you can find it, it doesn't matter on a lan really07:18
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infoDonkeytopyli: exactly. hence my original question: i'd like access to those files regardless of the OS they're running on, and it seems like the most convenient way to do that is to have a partition that both linux and win can access07:19
infoDonkeywith most of my files on that partition07:19
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topyliyes. then link /home/donkey/data to it07:20
infoDonkeyright...but it has to be fat32?07:21
topyliyes, ntfs is read-only so you'll end up having duplicates on your linux partitions then. fat32 support is reliable07:21
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infoDonkeytopyli: cool. any reason not to install both winXP and linux on fat32 partitions to simplify things?07:22
theantixinfoDonkey, most distro installers won't let you mount / on a fat32 drive.. not sure about ubuntu but I suspect the same07:23
topylino, put the systems on native, recommended systems because they're bound to be faster. also, i don't think fat32 supports any sort of permission stuff07:23
topylimandrake didn't even let me assign /home to fat32. you'll have to link.07:24
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infoDonkeytopyli: is that a security risk? are there other reasons why, even if i'm allowed to, installing one os or the other directly onto the fat32 partition would be a bad idea?07:25
subterrificinfoDonkey: you're aware that there are several ways of running windows inside linux right?07:25
topylii'm not sure but i think you can install xp on fat3207:25
subterrificwould one of those options work better?07:25
subterrificthat way you can have several different versions of windows around07:26
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infoDonkeysubterrific: i know very little about running win inside linux...my concerns would be (a) performance and (b) the possibility that because it's installed in that way it might not be a realistic win test environment07:27
plovsis there a metapackage for detools gcc,make etc?07:27
subterrificinfoDonkey: its very realistic for a test env, and as long as you aren't running 3d games, the performance should be fine07:27
infoDonkeysubterrific: it's a thought...i imagine it might isolate some of the win security issues too?07:28
subterrificinfoDonkey: vmware is commercial software that allows you to run windows inside linux. it is used by many people for test environments. past 3 companies i've worked for have used vmware to test win32 software under several revisions of windows07:28
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infoDonkeybut it also sounds like i could make the largest partition fat32, install win and my files there, and then mount it in linux. though if permissions aren't supported isn't that a security problem in both environments?07:29
infoDonkeysubterrific: a bit strapped for cash at this point, so i'm trying to avoid purchasing more commercial stuff07:30
subterrificinfoDonkey: security is relative. if you keep the machine off the internet or behind a firewall/NAT it should be fine07:30
theantixinfoDonkey, you can set the umask to minimize the security problems07:30
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infoDonkeytheantix: but will that help when i'm running in win?07:32
theantixinfoDonkey, it won't affect you running in windows, I just mean you can set the mount parameters to make it read/write only for your user only with no execute07:32
topylinothing will save your security while running windows :)07:33
theantixtopyli, exactly =)07:33
infoDonkeytopyli: hence my desire to keep the machine in linux except when necessary07:34
infoDonkeytheantix: and if i need execute perms on specific files? does that mean i have to set them on all files?07:34
theantixI don't know of a way to do that, don't think it's possible in fat32 since they don't have much of a permissions system07:36
infoDonkeytheantix: but i suppose if access is still restricted to local users it isn't such a big deal07:36
infoDonkeyso what do most folks running dual-boot systems do about this problem? i come from the mac world and setting up a dual-boot system with access to partitions across OSes is pretty easy on mac hardware07:37
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theantixinfoDonkey, I set up XP to run from ntfs, set up a large fat32 partition for music and documents, and run ext3 for linux07:38
infoDonkeytheantix: sounds reasonable. what's the advantage of that over putting both XP and the music & docs on fat32?07:39
theantixinfoDonkey, you get file permissions when in windows, it's a bit faster, and theoretically (but not practically) more secure07:40
infoDonkeytheantix: ok. it's not the speediest machine in the world so maybe that's worth it :-)07:40
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vdarontseng ?07:48
vdaronare you there ?07:48
vdaronMy mono packages are well listed, but I can"t install them...07:48
tsengim sorry.07:48
vdaronno problem, but it seems that I need some stuff, any tips ?07:49
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vdaronDpend: mono-jit but it is not going to be installed or mono-mint but it is not installable07:50
tsengare you on amd6407:50
vdaronInspiron 820007:50
tsengwhat are you installing07:50
vdaronmono ;)07:50
vdaronI tried several packages, errors occured with all of them07:51
tsengworks for me07:52
vdaronlibicu28 ?07:52
tsengdamn dude07:53
tsengdo you have universe?07:53
theantixif all you want is mono, isn't it in the ubuntu universe?07:53
tsengtheantix: its old and broken07:53
theantixah, okay07:53
tsengvdaron: listen dude07:54
vdaronNo, I did'nt have univers07:54
tsenguncomment the warty source with universe07:54
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tsengcomment the other07:54
tsengand apt-get update07:54
vdaronno probs07:54
LeeColletonMy laptop doesn't suspend with ACPI and the apm module won't load.  Do I need to recompile my kernel or what?07:55
vdarontseng : You're the men, thanks very much for your patience....07:56
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jono_hi all07:57
jono_jdub, ping07:57
tsengvdaron: sure07:57
jono_any canonical hackers in here?07:57
jono_I need some comments for a ubuntu review ASAP07:57
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lypanovyoyo jono_ :)07:59
jono_heya lypanov :)07:59
jono_lypanov, hows it going dude?08:00
lypanovjono_: pretty dang good :)08:00
lypanovjordi: and with you? :)08:00
lypanovjono: and with you? :P08:00
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jono_I am cool :)08:00
jono_cool, is jordi mallach in here?08:00
jono_lypanov, are you a canonical hacker?08:01
jordijono_: I am jordi, yes08:01
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tsenghi nate.08:01
jono_jordi, cool - I read your blog :)08:01
jono_jordi, nice to meet you :)08:02
jordijono_: unfortunately, I'm no ubuntu hacker. I wish. :)08:02
jono_jordi, really? I thought you were08:02
jordijono_: I was invited to the Oxford meeting by Canonical, but I'm not working for them.08:02
jono_ahhh right08:02
jordiA few other Debian people were invited too.08:02
jono_jordi, are you based in the UK?08:02
lypanovjono_: not devel. just user :)08:03
jono_lypanov, aahh right08:03
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jono_right, I am off to much on some dinner08:07
jono_later folks08:07
robertjI hope Canonical keeps going strong, I'm planning on working my way through Oxford in a few years and will need a good job ;)08:07
robertjIt's a nice town. I especially like the pen store ;)08:08
jordirobertj: well Oxford was just where the meeting was held. Canonical is quite distributed. America, Europe, Australia...08:08
robertj(BTW, Motor Lodge is highly recommended there at $50 US/night)08:08
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robertjI need to get my act together and finally learn to code and package08:11
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linux_mafiaanyone running ubuntu on an older machine, care to comment on performance08:12
vrlnI installed it today on a 550mhz pentium3, worked just fine08:13
WWHello world.  Is there a GUI-based backup utility that integrates nicely with gnome?  Some that could go into the Computer menu?  I am familiar with command line options (rsync comes to mind), but I'd like to find a good GUI-based app.08:14
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topyliWW: haven't seen one. you can edit your backup scripts with gedit though :)08:19
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Maisdoes ubuntu come with a c compiler?08:45
DaveHopeIf you install it, gcc08:45
vrlnno afai, but you can get it with sudo apt-get install build-essential08:45
vrln(that installs some other things too that are needed for compiling most programs)08:46
vrlnafai = afaik :)08:46
MaisDaveHope, where can i get a copy that works with the x86-64 arch?08:46
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DaveHopeMais: Sorry, unsure. Only been toying with Ubuntu in vmware... Still a debianite. I believe there's only an amd64 release of ubunto, isn't there?08:48
CapriMais: gcc supports x86-64 target08:49
WWDoes anyone know the connection between OpenOffice Printer Administration and CUPS?08:50
WWIn CUPS, the Paper Size is set to US Letter; in OO, the Paper Size is blank, and I can't change it.  A day or so ago, OO thought it was A4, and I changed it to Letter.08:52
WWIs this a bug in OO?08:53
MaisIsn't A4 letter size?08:53
Maisor is A4 legal08:53
MaisIf I remmeber corrctly, A4 is simply the size code for 8.5x1108:54
WWMais: I don't think they are the same.  Either way, in OO the Paper Size is blank, and I can't change it.  In fact, I can't print anything from OO.08:55
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WWI upgraded OpenOffice yesterday and now I can't print from OO.  Does anyone else have the most recent OO?  If so, have you had any problems printing?08:59
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CapriA4 is not letter size09:03
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elmayawhats the file that loads/unloads the snd , snd_pcm ?09:05
CapriDIN A4 is 8.3 x 11.7 inches09:06
theantixexcellent, Sid's rhythmbox-applet works perfectly in Ubuntu09:06
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Maiswell its close to 8.5 =|09:08
Capritheantix: do you know how to load one file in rhythmbox? Is it possible?09:08
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axe9dotcomgetting somewhere ^^09:09
psyklopsheh... actually found a drive this time?09:10
theantixCapri, you can right-click in nautilus and add it to your library, that should do it09:10
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axe9dotcomhere's the errror:09:10
MaisOk, so new to linux and all, tryin to get my NVidia drivers installed, and I need to install the kernel headers correct? where do i get those09:10
sanitariosudo apt-get install linux-headers09:11
axe9dotcomfile system type unknown, prtition type 0x709:11
Maissanitario - thanks09:11
axe9dotcomA disk read error occurred09:11
CapriMais: yeah but I think there should be other sizes for other countrys09:11
axe9dotcompress xltr-alt-del to restart09:11
moyogoelmaya: what do you mean?09:11
psyklopsokay, to avoid having to do MORE rebooting, lets ask the channel!09:11
axe9dotcomBut ateast it FOUND a disk09:11
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CapriDIN A4 is the German standard size for printer papers09:12
psyklopsin grub, what's the primary slave's MBR?09:12
Maisok ive narrowed it down to two choices09:12
theantixaxe9dotcom, change your hard disk to LBA in the bios, that fixes the 0x7 problem09:12
CapriDIN = Deutsche Industrie Norm09:12
Maisamd64-k8 or amd64-k8-smp09:12
Maisany idea what the smp is for?09:12
sanitario Symmetric MultiProcessor09:12
WWOK, with either A4 or Letter, can anyone print from the most recent upgrade of OpenOffice?09:12
elmayaif i want to load the snd snd_pcm modules wich file loads them i cant remember is it a .conf file?09:13
sanitarioMais: only useful if you have more than one cpus09:13
axe9dotcomstupid compaq bios doesn't let you edit the bios09:13
CapriWW: didn't update open office yesterday09:13
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axe9dotcomonly lets you change some power settings, pw, and boot order09:13
Maisok gotta hook ubuntu back online09:14
moyogoelmaya: try /etc/modules09:15
Caprisanitario: shared memory multiprocessor09:15
moyogoelmaya: but they should be loaded by hotplug at bootup09:15
axe9dotcomtheantix, how do I do that on a limited BIOS?09:16
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sanitarioCapri: that's not what dict.org says09:17
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FLeiXiuSHow would I go about installing an RPM09:20
LinuxJonesFLeiXiuS, you need to install alien09:20
LinuxJonesthen alien ???.rpm it will convert it to a .deb file09:21
FLeiXiuSLinuxJones, Oh! I just remembered Alien, thanks for the renevue09:21
inklingxif there are any ubuntu devs here: nice polished and table gnome desktop so far: thx!!!09:21
LinuxJonesFLeiXiuS, sure :D09:21
subterrificyes, very table09:21
FLeiXiuSThats my desktop currently09:21
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FLeiXiuSTrying to get my NVIDIA drivers to work..09:22
axe9dotcomit didn't terminate09:22
axe9dotcomwhich is a good sign...09:22
inklingxstable :)09:22
LinuxJonesFLeiXiuS, here is some help from the wiki >> http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions09:23
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Caprisanitario: ok.  you are right SMP is Symmetric Multi-Processor but the Linux SMP support is shared memory multi-processor.09:26
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FLeiXiuSLinuxJones, I don't see anything regarding NVIDIA09:27
moyogoFLeiXiuS: have you go the proper packages installed?09:27
_brandx_does anyone know if there are any plans to get a ubuntu forum community going?09:30
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FLeiXiuSmoyogo, Yes i have the nvidia.pkg1.run09:31
moyogoFLeiXiuS: ubuntu has .deb packages for nvidia09:31
WWFleiXius: Look at question 3 in the FAQ linked earlier.09:32
Capri_brandx_: yes it is in work09:32
FLeiXiuSwWW, wow i skipped right over, thanks09:32
_brandx_capri: great thanks :)09:33
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LinuxJonesFLeiXiuS, # 309:34
sriman, still having trouble booting my new kernel09:36
sriapparently, even though I point it at /dev/hd3 it wants to boot at 0,0 bootblock09:36
sriI fixed this earlier by setting root=majorminornumber09:36
sribut it doesn'twork in this case. :/09:36
srithis shuldn't be hard, it's the only disk on the laptop09:37
chutwigdon't you mean hdc?09:37
chutwigor do you mean hda309:38
sribusy typing in (hd0,2) in grub :)09:39
sriso I"m not sure why it can't mount the root fs09:39
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chutwigdoes it get to loading the kernel and then panic?09:40
sriI see it in saying failed to mount (hd0,0) but the root=is correctly teh right one09:40
sriso it sees the disk fine09:40
sriI had a similar problem on another box09:40
LinuxJonessri, do you have the filesystems built into the kernel and NOT as modules right ?09:40
sriand I was able to fix it by using majorminor number09:40
chutwigyeah, if that's the case, you need an initrd.img09:40
sriLinuxJones: it's whatever the config that comes with the stock debian kernel09:41
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sriand did make oldconfig09:41
sriLinuxJones: one would hope thats taken care of but i can certainly check09:41
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pereMy menues have disappeared from the upper bar. Anyone know how i can get them back?09:42
adaptright click.. add to menu09:42
LinuxJonessri, as I recall they are built as modules and use an initrd.09:42
sriyes, ext3 is a module09:42
sripiece of shit.09:42
sriokay, need to recompile it :)09:42
LinuxJonessri, LOL09:42
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sriadapt: ;)09:43
adapti read somewhere about ubuntu having issues during install with rieserfs... any truth to that (seems like a sketchy statment)09:43
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pereadapt. Add to panal what? Cant fint the two system menues there.. can I?09:43
sribtw I hope someone fixed gnome-session, it's broken :/09:43
adaptpere, main menu09:44
chutwigadapt: grub doesn't boot well off XFS, i know that, and probably not reiserfs either09:44
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jonoany canonical hackers here?09:44
adaptchutwig, i've always used reiser.. for the past 3 years or so, i've never had a problem 09:44
adaptalthough i use ext2 for /boot always, so maybe thats what they were refering too09:44
sriis resier good? I've always stuck with ext309:44
psyklops_how do I claim my name?09:44
pereadapt: If I choose main manu, I get the "gnome foot"-menu. Im looking for the default two menues. Applications and computer, was it?09:45
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chutwigi think reiser is overrated09:45
chutwigeveryone talks about it like it's the be-all end-all of filesystems09:45
adaptpere.. sorry, do the "custom menu"09:45
sriso..when I build this kernel09:45
sriit tells me the root dvice is (3, 3)09:45
LinuxJonesExt3 is rock stable it's all I use for my systems09:45
srion wait..thats fine09:45
srimajor/minor number of /dev/hda309:45
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=== jono needs a canonical hacker to make some comments for a magazine review of Ubuntu
adaptchutwig, i agree. i think they are all fine, you cant "see" a difference in performance on day to day desktop use09:46
chutwigext2 and ext3 are getting kind of long in the tooth09:46
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LinuxJonesjonobacon ?09:46
jonoLinuxJones, yep09:46
pereadapt: "custom menu"? cant find anything like it.09:46
chutwigso is hfs+  :mad:09:46
mdzjono: sure09:46
sriI should doa review of ubuntu too09:46
adaptpere, its right under main menu in the list09:46
jonomdz, you work on Ubuntu?09:46
sriwhiprush: do a review of ubuntu ;)09:47
mdzjono: yes09:47
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srielmaya: did my fix help you lastnight?09:47
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whiprushsri: yep.09:47
jonomdz, could you /msg me your email address so I can mail you some questions09:47
sriwhiprush: we've got competition too :) haha09:47
adaptpere (Menu Bar - A custom menu)09:47
pereadapt: Ahh that one...:-) Sorry for being so slow here..:-) Thanks a lot!09:47
adaptpere no sweat man09:47
sriwhiprush: although you've had a better experience than I did, ubuntu totally bombed on my dell09:47
whiprushwifi still?09:48
adaptsri, cause dell is a bomb09:48
adaptjk :)09:48
sriwhiprush: although, truly only sound is broken09:48
xcasexsri same here.09:48
sriadapt: dude.. this 8500 kicks, most awesome lcd screen ever, although it is heavy and noisy..but still..09:48
elmayasri, just did :) i unloaded sound server at startup and loaded snd-pcm-oss on  modules09:48
adaptsri, lappy?09:48
sriadapt: yeah, need ndiswrapper, which is why I had to recompile the kernel in order tro get wifi09:48
adapti have a inspiron 8000 right next to me with ubuntu on it09:49
adaptsri, i got it like 2 days ago from my work, no wireless though09:49
sriadapt: but really, the x config was smooth, only sound was bad, but the install was bad beause it kept indicating a problem with making filesystems :/09:49
elmayai got an 850009:49
srielmaya: oh, cool..yeha, same here.09:49
srielmaya: did you fix sound yet? :)09:49
axe9dotcomif I did fixmbr what drive should I speacify?09:49
elmayasri, yup i fixed the sound09:49
srielmaya: how did you fix it?09:49
mdzsri: ndiswrapper will be included in the next rev, no need to compile your kernel anymore :-)09:50
srielmaya: it loaded the right driver.09:50
elmayalets see i unloade partport or something like that09:50
srimdz: oh, okay, I wasn't sure if it was compatable with your philosophy :)09:50
srielmaya: oh09:50
elmayait causes problems with irqs09:50
srimdz: but having ndiswrapper is necessary, glad you guys are going to include it.09:50
mdzsri: obviously we can't do much about it if it breaks your system, but we can provide it pre-built for you for convenience's sake09:50
srielmaya: bizarre.09:50
srimdz: yeah, thats what I was lookin for.09:51
whiprushthat parport dell irq thing09:51
elmayai also got ndiwswrapper without recompiling the kernel09:51
srimdz: you don't have an ndiswrapper deb, so I had to recompile my kernel and what not09:51
srielmaya: how did youd o that?09:51
LinuxJonesmdz: any chance of getting modconf added into Ubuntu ?09:51
srielmaya: that would make things way easy for me, but I've been having troubleloading the kernel module09:51
mdzsri: there is a kernel waiting in the queue which has the ndiswrapper module built; the tools will be packaged soon09:51
elmayajust dowloaded the kernel headers and compilted ndiwswrapper09:51
srimdz: neat, can't wait!!09:52
srimdz: I had some trouble with the install at teh fdisk portion, I need to put in a bug report in.09:52
srimdz: itclaims it can't resize an ext2 partition but I don't have such a beast.09:52
elmayawlan0: ndiswrapper ethernet device 00:0f:66:2e:af:d4 using driver bcmwl5.sys09:52
elmayandiswrapper device wlan0 supports WPA with AES/CCMP and TKIP ciphers09:52
elmayandiswrapper: driver bcmwl5.sys (The Linksys Group, Inc.,07/17/2003, added09:52
srimdz: it makes me go back to the fdisk portion, so I end up ignoring the whole thing and going to install.09:52
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srielmaya: which version of ndiswrapper?09:53
srielmaya: I coudln't get anything working..09:53
srielmaya: hrm..how did you compile it?09:53
mdzLinuxJones: the source is in universe, but it fails to build (because modconf is a bit of a gross hack)09:53
elmayai believe its 1.009:53
srielmaya: 0.1009:53
elmayajust did make install09:53
srielmaya: really?? that didn't work for me.09:53
srielmaya: it tells me the module is in the wrong format09:53
elmayathe .ko?09:53
srielmaya: and the problem is the ndiswrapper binary, not the module itself I think09:53
srielmaya: I don't think it's the module itself, ndiswrapperutil or something? it gave some error in dmesg09:54
srigoddam it, it still didn't boot.09:54
srielmaya: so I'm ata loss here09:56
LinuxJonesmdz: ahh ok09:56
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elmayasri, did u downloaded the rith kernel-headers?09:56
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Caprican anyone tell me what this CYMK with FS dithering in Ghostscript bits per pixels in the printer setup is?09:58
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ForsaKenwhy doesnt ubuntu comes with gcc cc lib and more things?09:59
ForsaKengtk++ and more, is there a 1 command to install all this things ?09:59
CapriPrinted images look here like paints with aqua color09:59
whiprushForsaKen: try installing build-essential10:00
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CapriForsaKen: it is not installed by default because default users don't need dev libs10:01
srielmaya: dunno, I thought so10:03
ForsaKenah but still there are alot of things i need to install to be able to compile things10:03
sriit matched the one in uname I think10:03
ForsaKenerr :/10:03
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sriForsaKen: I believe they want everything to work out of the box ala desktop10:04
sriForsaKen: you shouldn't have to compile anything10:04
sriForsaKen: unless of course, you're me :)10:04
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Slackeerbdoes anyone know any xbox tunneling software for linux?10:05
azeemForsaKen: and it's easy: 'apt-get install build-essential && apt-get build-dep <package>'10:05
MaisI finally got my nvidia installer to recognize the headers and gcc, but now im getting some errors that i cant decipher, they look to me like permission errors10:05
ForsaKenwhat do you mean by package10:05
ForsaKenit is a dir10:05
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ForsaKenwith all the files in it .. 10:05
srielmaya: lets make it simple, what package did you download? :)10:05
elmayasri, you mean ndiswrapper?10:06
whiprushForsaKen: what are you trying to build?10:06
elmayandiswrapper 0.1010:06
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ForsaKenthe one apt-get has is old10:06
ForsaKenand i need the newst version10:06
srielmaya: no which linux headers10:06
whiprushapt-get install build-essential && apt-get build-dep xqf10:07
whiprushwill snag everything you need to build xqf10:07
Capriwhiprush: if the new xqf has not any new deps ;)10:07
ForsaKenE: Unable to find a source package for xqf-1.010:07
Maismake[2] : *** No rule to make target 'modules'. Stop.10:08
whiprushwell yeah10:08
azeemForsaKen: if it's too old, then there is no source available10:08
srielmaya: I got linux-headers- linux-headers-
srithe 386 one points itno the other one10:08
MaisNVIDIA: left KBUILD10:08
Maisnvidia.ko failed to uild10:08
sriit seems to my uname10:08
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elmayasri, someone posted there a way to match the headers with the kernel it was like apt-get install kernel-headers -s `uname'10:08
JStrikesabdfl : Congrats on the #18 ! 10:09
JStrikeVery umpressive10:10
srielmaya: the error I get is ndiswrapper version 0.10 loaded (preempt-yes,smp=no)/n ndiswrapper (wraper_init:2286): loadndiswrapper fialed (65280); chekc utils version mismatch10:10
sricorrect all typos :)10:10
srielmaya: I tried that it didn't seem to work10:10
elmayamust be gcc related then10:11
sri-s is "simulate" meaning do a dry run10:11
srielmaya: thats what IT hought10:11
sribut uname said that the kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4 same version as mine10:11
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sriokay, be right back..10:11
srigotta finish something real quick.10:12
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EchyloI have a problem, when I launch login manager, and I enter root password it gives this:10:21
EchyloFailed to run gdmsetup as user root, child terminated with 1 status10:21
Greenskyhow do you setup openssh-server to run during startup or does it do that automatically if you install it?10:22
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joemGreensky, automatically10:23
Scognitoi made the package of mplayer for pentium310:23
Greenskyjoem, thanks.. :)10:23
Scognitoif someone want it tell me10:23
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heretici installed kde and now my sensible-browser is konqueror. how can i set it back to firefox?10:28
elmayai removed rhytmbox from synaptic for total removal..how do i get it back :( ?10:28
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Mithrandirheretic: sudo update-alternatives sensible-browser , iirc10:28
hereticthank you10:29
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axe9dotcomI need to get sound working10:30
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axe9dotcomthe soundless working on computers thing is getting uber old...10:30
theantixheretic, if what Mithrandir suggested didn't work, try sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser10:31
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heretictheantix, that worked better, thanks10:32
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psyklopswhat would be the first step in getting sound working?10:39
Kosaipsyklops: That would depend on why sound isn't currently working, no?10:40
psyklopsokay, change the question. what would be the first step in finding out WHY sound is currently not working10:41
Kosai- Find out what type of sound card you have.10:41
Kosai- Find out whether the right module's loaded.10:41
psyklopslspci shows it10:41
Kosai- Find out whether the mixer is muting it.10:41
krischanhey, does Ubuntu come with a command that is able to handle RAR-archives? Or do I have install a package that is capable of that?10:41
psyklopshow do you check modules?10:41
Kosaipsyklops: Right.10:43
psyklopsnow how do you find out which module works with the sound card you have?10:43
LinuxJoneskrischan, you can get unrar from the main debian testing repository10:43
KosaiIf you tell me the card model, I can probably tell you.10:43
psyklopsESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 1 0)10:43
psyklopswhere are modules stored?10:45
Kosaipsyklops: Google hints at it being unsupported by Linux.10:45
Kosaipsyklops: /lib/modules/$kernel/kernel/sound/pci.10:45
krischanLinuxJones: it is obviously not contained in any of the pre-configured Ubuntu-archives, isn't it?10:45
Kosaipsyklops: Oh.  Apparantly maestro3 handles it.  Try `modprobe snd-maestro3`.10:46
LinuxJoneskrischan, no don't think so10:46
psyklopseh, its not on my system... I'm helping someone else10:46
psyklopsdecided to get info while he was away10:47
KosaiOh.  Well, diagnosing someone else's someone else's problem over IRC is a little too much for me, sorry.10:47
psyklopsheh... you helped me plenty10:47
psyklopsI asked generic enough questions10:47
psyklopsthat didn't require system manipulation10:48
psyklopsup to a point10:48
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krischanLinuxJones: Okay, but thanks for the hint anyway. Will the Debian version work? (I'm always uncertain about that question because of what was written in the FAQ: Debian binary packages aren't guaranteed to work on the Ubuntu platform)10:50
dleHi.  I'm looking at http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/warty/preview/ .  Are these install or live CD images?10:50
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LinuxJoneskrischan, yes I installed it this morning :D10:51
psyklopsafter you've modprobed the sound module, do you need to do anything else for the system to play sounds?10:51
LinuxJoneskrischan, just download the .deb file and dpkg -i it10:51
krischanLinuxJones: well, that's good to know! :)10:51
LinuxJoneskrischan, :D10:51
LinuxJonespsyklops, try adjusting your sound volume...it might me muted10:52
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theantixanyone have advice on how to get V4L (or webcam or /dev/video0) working on Ubuntu?10:52
dleI'll rephrase my question: where are the liveCD images?10:53
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LinuxJonesdle, I don't think they are going to be ready until October10:53
dleLinuxJones: thanks.10:54
Maishas anyone succesfully gotten their nvidia drivers installed under ubuntu10:54
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LinuxJonesMais, yes10:55
LinuxJonesMais, http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions look to # 310:55
MaisHeres what ive done: gotten the headers, gotten gcc, specified the kernel root as /usr, and updated binutils10:55
enricoHello.  If someone hacking with the ubuntulinux.org CMS is online, could you please query me?10:56
Mithrandirhi enrico10:56
LinuxJonesMais, there are pre=compiled .debs available unless you built your own kernel10:56
enricoMithrandir: hi!10:56
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enricoIs there some plone hacker around?10:57
Maisthanks Jones10:57
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LinuxJonessoumoh, hi10:59
soumohi've problems running eclipse 3 under ubuntu10:59
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soumohI've installed jdk and put it in my PATH file, and I can compile and run other java apps..but not eclipse10:59
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LinuxJonesMais, how did you make out ??11:02
Maisthe pacakge is gone ><11:02
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Maisso not too well11:02
LinuxJonesMais, no what is wrong ?11:03
Maisit can't locate the package11:03
LinuxJonesMais, you have to edit your /etc/apt/sources.lst file it's in the faq11:04
LinuxJonesMais, you then have to apt-get update to get the new file list11:04
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defendguini still cant get my wireless working :(11:07
MaisJones, was the source list update in the faq you linked or another one. I don't see that mentioned anywhere.11:08
LinuxJonesMais, you jsut have to un-comment an entry in the sources.lst file for the restricted tree.11:10
Maisoh easy11:10
LinuxJonesMais, heh11:11
Maisyea i opened it and the instructions were right there -_-11:11
Maisthanks for putting up with this11:11
LinuxJonesMais, no problem :P11:12
Maisok brb11:12
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Se7hcant find it to install...11:15
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defendguinwhy does the link monitor on my wireless card say 100% but the link light on the card is never on? does this matter11:19
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MaisThe universe apt lists wont update "E: some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead"11:22
Maisthanks for your help Jones, I appreciate it11:22
Maisbut i gotta jet for a while11:22
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linux_mafiadefendguin, where did you get the ndis stuff?11:23
supertux_linux_mafia, im defendguin 11:23
supertux_from the ndis site11:23
linux_mafiaok, while i have no wireless experience, i was taken with your plight ;) and ive been looking around11:24
supertux_this wireless signal strength applet sucks. i turned off broadcasting and it still says 100% link strength11:24
Slackeerbcan someone link me to the how-to isntall nvidia drivers?11:24
linux_mafiasupertux_, you should try these ones, apt src  deb http://rigtorp.se/debian/ unstable/11:25
linux_mafiaor have you already?11:26
supertux_slow site 11:26
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linux_mafiatry modifying these instructions to your needs http://tiefighter.et.tudelft.nl/~arthur/wpc54g/11:27
linux_mafiais that any help?11:28
supertux_well the ndis site has very similiar instructions11:29
LinuxJonesSlackeerb, http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/FrequentlyAskedQuestions # 311:29
SlackeerbLinuxJones: thx11:29
linux_mafiasupertux_, ok11:29
LinuxJonesSlackeerb, np11:29
supertux_there is a slight twist in the instructions11:29
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nick01if I use the bluecurve theme will that make gnome look like fedora with a single panel ?11:33
UziMonkeyno, but it's not hard to make everything into a single panel11:34
UziMonkey(at least I don't think it would be, I haven't tried)11:34
nick01k :(11:35
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supertux__woo hoo i can ping my router11:37
supertux__still cant browse the net though11:38
linux_mafiawell, one step closer anyway11:38
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axe9dotcomwho wants to help me get sound?11:40
linux_mafiadefendguin, at least i could help a bit11:40
nick01if I install KDE will I have to add the links to the K menu or will those be generated automatically ?11:40
defendguinif i can ping my router and i have an address i wonder why i cant browse just yet11:40
linux_mafiadefendguin, dns11:40
defendguinmy laptop is not showing up in the dhcp clients table of my router11:41
nick01linux_mafia: do u know ?11:42
Slackeerbnick01: why install kde. =P11:42
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nick01I don't like gnome's 2 panels 11:42
nick01I liked fedora's gnome11:42
Slackeerbyour not useing ubuntu?11:42
nick01downloading the iso now11:43
linux_mafianick01, dont use kde, wouldnt bother on ubuntu either, if you want kde i'd use a kde centric distro11:43
Slackeerbnick01: its the best distro I have ever tryed. ;)11:43
Knio1hey, I just installed ubuntu... and I don't seem to have a root password. the installer only asked me to make a user account, but that password isn't working when I su?11:43
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linux_mafiaKnio1, use sudo11:44
Slackeerbnick01: ya if u want kde use suse. or mandrake. lol11:44
Knio1whats sudo?11:44
nick01why can't I just install KDE ?11:44
linux_mafianick01, try mepis, its debian based, meant to be very good, and kde focused11:44
Slackeerbkino1: for example sudo apt-get install program11:44
nick01I tried mepis11:44
linux_mafianick01, well i think you can install kde from universe, but basically this distro is based around gnome, i'm not even sure of kdes completeness in the ubuntu repos11:46
nick01it is in repositories ? I was thinking about geting it from kde.org11:46
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defendguinlinux_mafia, now my network is un reachable11:47
linux_mafiainstalling kde from another source on a gnome based distro dosent make sense11:47
Slackeerbanyone know where i can get a totem plugin for mozilla?11:47
linux_mafiadefendguin, hmmm11:48
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defendguini am really starting to hate thr gnome gui network config thing11:48
linux_mafiatry this http://ryanthiessen.com/uploads/netapplet_0.98.0-2_i386.deb11:49
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defendguinever used it?11:50
linux_mafiainstalling now11:50
linux_mafiadefendguin, i read about it on mailing list11:50
defendguinsomethign is wrong with hal my flash drive i have been using to transport files is not being detected properly11:53
|trey|Anyone know what the diff between /.dev and /dev is?11:54
linux_mafia|trey|, .dev is hidden?11:55
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|trey|linux_mafia: well... but why?  :/11:55
linux_mafia|trey|, well im fresh outa ideas11:55
|trey|They appear to contain the same things... maybe /.dev is for /sys somehow?  :/11:55
|trey|jdub: ping11:56
|trey|He is smart  8)11:56
|trey|but gone  :'(11:56
|trey|bob2: ping11:56
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