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[02:15] <XXX7> hi
[02:16] <XXX7> i'm looking for mark shuttleworth - does he visit irc sometimes?
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[06:30] <fabbione> morning guys
[06:48] <mdz> morning
[06:48] <fabbione> hey mdz 
[06:48] <fabbione> mdz: i think i will fix the brasilian stuff with an exception
[06:49] <fabbione> when i hit that kind of LANG i can check the status of the debconf db from d-i and see which keyboard map to set
[06:49] <fabbione> i don't see any better solution in the short term
[06:49] <mdz> for hoary, we can choose the x keymap and console keymap at the same time with the fancy chooser
[06:49] <fabbione> yes. i am still talking about warty.
[06:49] <mdz> I don't mind if you want to ask a question in this case for Warty, but I think Mark probably would :-)
[06:50] <fabbione> nahhh apparently that's the only problematic layout
[06:50] <fabbione> so i can workaround without asking the question
[06:50] <fabbione> mdz: i have another fix pending for X anyway
[06:51] <mdz> fabbione: there was another one, which I marked as a duplicate of that one
[06:51] <fabbione> due to a missing us_intl layout
[06:51] <fabbione> mdz: yes i noticed. That's why i am saying that is the only problematic layout
[06:51] <mdz> fabbione: do you know what #1089 is about, while we're talking about layouts?
[06:51] <mdz> fabbione: that was a different layout, wasn't it?
[06:51] <fabbione> i was reading it.. but deep enough..
[06:51] <fabbione> i will look at it again
[06:54] <doko> morning ...
[06:56] <mdz> morning
[06:57] <fabbione> mdz: I HAD A NC6000 and it works like a charm
[06:58] <fabbione> the hu,fi thingy afaik is related to the missing file us_intl
[06:58] <fabbione> (as i wrote before)
[07:00] <mdz> ah
[07:01] <fabbione> the missing layout will also fix 1964
[07:01] <fabbione> since the layout is NOT there i wonder how the submitter could manage to say that it works
[07:01] <fabbione> but that's another story
[07:04] <fabbione> mdz: we might want to up a bounty for XKB stuff
[07:04] <fabbione> i really don't know enough to even thing about touching it
[07:04] <mdz> fabbione: who do you recommend?  would denis be interested?
[07:04] <fabbione> Either Denis or Ivan Pascal (upstream)
[07:05] <fabbione> Denis is a good guy too
[07:05] <fabbione> but i don't know Ivan enough to be able to say if he is an ok guy or not
[07:05] <fabbione> i know that he replied to a couple of my mails
[07:05] <fabbione> but what he wrote back was kinda.. *interesting*
[07:06] <fabbione> in terms that it's easy to decode a gpg crypted message with RSA4096 manually than read Ivan's emails
[07:11] <fabbione> one RC less ;)
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[07:18] <daniels> ivan is alright
[07:18] <daniels> the 
[07:18] <daniels> other xkb dude we could get is svu, who's maintaining the xkb stuff at fd.o
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[07:18] <daniels> he seems to know a fair bit about it.
[07:25] <fabbione> splitnode
[07:25] <fabbione> damn network
[07:25] <fabbione> <fabbione> one RC less ;)
[07:25] <fabbione> that's the last message i saw
[07:30] <doko> fabbione: you hope they vanished while you were absent? ;)
[07:32] <fabbione> doko: well ... yes!
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[08:11] <pampa> is anyone from the laptop team here?
[08:23] <pampa> ok, I guess not
[08:23] <pampa> I just want to let you know that there is a great program for toshiba laptops
[08:23] <pampa> http://fnfx.sourceforge.net/
[08:23] <pampa> that maps the fn-fx keys
[08:23] <pampa> in my laptop in particular (i guess others too)
[08:24] <pampa> you can't change your monitor brightness if you don't have this
[08:24] <pampa> or you can use the toshiba extensions to echo some values
[08:24] <pampa> to acpi
[08:25] <mdz> pampa: interesting, send an email to the ubuntu-devel mailing list
[08:25] <mdz> it's a bit late to add new things to Warty, but we'll see
[08:26] <pampa> ok, I'll do
[08:27] <pampa> they even have debian packages which I'm using it now
[08:27] <pampa> without any problem
[08:27] <pampa> can I send an email without being subscribed?
[08:29] <mdz> it will be moderated, but yes
[08:29] <mdz> I'll approve it :-)
[08:29] <pampa> ok
[08:29] <pampa> I'll do it tomorrow
[09:10] <sabdfl> morning mdz
[09:10] <mdz> sabdfl: morning
[09:10] <mdz> was that a trick to see if I was taking my own advice?
[09:10] <sabdfl> taking your own advice?
[09:11] <mdz> I sent an email earlier
[09:12] <sabdfl> let me see
[09:13] <sabdfl> mdz: good thinking on both counts
[09:14] <mdz> I'm just making a last desperate effort to fix #1943
[09:14] <mdz> it's brutalizing a lot of users and seb can't reproduce it yet
[09:14] <mdz> but I can
[09:15] <sabdfl> ok, then i don't want to see you on this channel all day, 'k?
[09:16] <mdz> that's the plan
[09:16] <sabdfl> enjoy
[09:17] <sabdfl> i got a good nights rest last night, and plan to again tonight, but need to keep coding today
[09:17] <sabdfl> it's a big cleanup and best done while the rest of the team is resting
[09:17] <sabdfl> i gave them basically the same instructions for the w/e :-)
[09:18] <mdz> GMTA :-)
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[02:00] <doko> fabbione: ping?
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[07:56] <azeem> so I read in some comments to some ubuntu review that Canonical/Ubuntu was working/pondering on another GNOME APT/dpkg frontend. Any truth to that rumor?
[07:59] <chrisa> I'd be surprised, synaptic seems to work pretty well now
[08:00] <azeem> it's missing some more HIG/GNOME love, but yeah
[08:01] <azeem> however, it might be a bit too complicated in some areas
[08:10] <hazmat> otoh, it would be nice to see all this python lovin come to some pratical use ;-)
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[11:57] <pitti> Night everybody!