=== elmo_ [~james@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~debianist@80.179.82.182.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel === munkee [foobar@209.184.7.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel === munkee [foobar@209.184.7.116] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Markus_ [~Markus@p50831346.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] Hi There.. Can somebody help my? Why isnt my serial mouse not recognized? Where can I change it? [12:52] Try #ubuntu === randomnick [~randomnic@a213-22-23-220.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === makolb_ [~makolb@mnch-d9ba49cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === makolb_ [~makolb@mnch-d9ba49cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye] [12:55] hi... === sjoerd [~sjoerd@fire.ipv6.luon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] mdz: any idea what to do about 1872? [01:28] jdub: here ? [01:30] yeah [01:30] python-gtk2-docs [01:30] python-gtk2-tutorial [01:30] these are documentation [01:30] and not in ubuntu (uploaded in deb after the warty freeze) [01:31] perhaps we want to include them somewhere ? === sivang [~sivan@80.179.82.109.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:32] just removed lp and parport from system, still now sound device. this is after a fresh install on inspiron 8200 === Capri [~makolb@mnch-d9ba49cf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:42] ok, time to sleep [01:46] night seb128 === Keybuk [~scott@halo.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === justdave [~dave@24.247.63.44.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] Mithrandir: I wanted to ask you the same :-) [02:41] Mithrandir: I think the bug is probably fixed; he needs to re-test === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:mdz] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion on #ubuntu | 33 RC bugs to go [04:11] anyone having problems with madwifi in the latest kernel release? [04:18] haven't tried it [04:18] I will now [04:20] my madwifi card can't get a dhcp since I upgraded the kernel [04:20] it worked fine in previous kernels === npmccallum [~npmccallu@69-162-252-7.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [~fabbione@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:12] doesn't seem to want to associate [05:13] I've never tested it with WEP before, though === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:mdz] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion on #ubuntu | 32 RC bugs to go === daniels claims 1551. [06:15] morning guys === Tux_Rox [~garrett@c-67-171-239-56.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:26] hm [06:26] fabbione: could you please review the g-v-m change on http://people.ubuntu.com/~daniels/gnome-volume-manager ? [06:27] fabbione: basically, with ubuntu2, if you run /etc/init.d/dbus-1 stop, then g-v-m dies [06:27] with ubuntu3, it should work just fine if you restart dbus [06:28] daniels: gimme a few [06:29] daniels: i don't know much about g-v-m. did you write all that patch yourself? [06:30] fabbione: based on Kinnison's patch [06:32] i don't know enough about g-v-m, but it seems ok [06:32] daniels: did you tested it? [06:33] fabbione: yeah, it works fine here [06:33] hotplug smartcard reader, nautilus window pops up [06:33] restart dbus with sudo /etc/init.d/dbus-1 restart [06:34] does that means is going to break *? ;) [06:34] with ubuntu3, it should work just fine if you restart dbus [06:34] er [06:34] then after that, hotplug smartcard reader, nautilus window pops up [06:34] it should or it does? === fabbione bitches [06:36] should, and does :) [06:36] ok [06:36] go ahead [06:36] thanks === azeem [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SuperLag [~colbyirc@CPE-69-76-188-71.kc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:59] how were all the newly imported "file conflicts" reports handled for warty? === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:fabbione] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion on #ubuntu | 30 RC bugs to go [08:29] doko: argh [08:29] you were slightly faster than me [08:29] for tetex-base === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:38] Morning everybody! [08:41] any of you guys have Mono installed on your Ubuntu boxen? [08:41] SuperLag: I had it installed on Sid, for my diploma [08:41] SuperLag: should not make much of a difference on Ubuntu [08:41] I've added the lines to the repositories, according to the wiki page... but no workey. [08:42] Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. [08:52] fabbione: just wanted to remove the file from the binary [08:54] doko: yes.. you need to fry it from the orig.tar.gz too afaik [08:54] uggh, new source upload? [08:56] doko: yes [08:56] it's not in the diff.gz [08:56] if the file is not free you need to remove it from the orig.tar.gz too [08:57] SuperLag: sudo apt-get install -s mono works for me, all dependencies seem to be in place [08:57] SuperLag: I did not actually install the packages, though, but dependencies are checked in the simulation === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:fabbione] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion on #ubuntu | 29 RC bugs to go [09:01] is 2022 really RC? === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-000-104.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@4.13.160.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:55] hey mdz [09:55] morning [09:55] 4.13 ?? [09:55] where are you hooked up? [09:55] verizon [09:55] whois 4.0.0.0 [09:55] OrgName: Level 3 Communications, Inc. [09:55] not bad :-) [09:56] my home away from home [09:56] mdz: is 2022 really RC? [09:56] while my house is fumigated [09:56] yeah i read that ;) [09:56] fabbione: well, the last name implies that it is :-) [09:57] mdz: well reading the bug i get a completely different idea [09:57] otherwise i wouldn't ask ;) [09:57] it doesn't seem RC for Warty [09:58] exactly === elmo_ [~james@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:07] Mithrandir: ? [10:07] yes? [10:08] elmo_: pong [10:08] Mithrandir: do you know about epiphany-extensions on amd64? [10:08] what about them? [10:08] ftbfs [10:08] I've never heard of them before. :) [10:08] ugh :/ [10:09] sgml-validator.c: In function `convert_to_utf8': [10:09] sgml-validator.c:309: warning: passing arg 4 of `g_io_channel_read_chars' from incompatible pointer type === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:09] could you have a look at some stage and/or should I file a bug? [10:09] I'll look at it, but please file a bug [10:12] mdz, Mithrandir: what is the decision on #1996? [10:15] I asked you to ask mdz [10:16] trivial fix, it seems [10:17] anybody else having trouble with firefox stability? [10:17] sabdfl: me [10:18] sabdfl: It just crashes on some websites [10:18] hangs and won't respond? [10:18] sabdfl: but I could not reproduce this reliably [10:18] sabdfl: no, no hangings so far [10:19] sabdfl: It's a pity, mozilla has been rock solid for a long time now; sad to see such regressions [10:20] it's the wrath-of-epiphany [10:21] perhaps they are suffering from "i want my favourite patch in 1.0" syndrome === SuperLag is beginning to despise e-mail [10:22] i can confirm having firefox stability issues, it randomly crashes for me as well [10:22] or perhaps it's a packaging problem. thom? [10:24] sabdfl, thom: https://financepilot-banking.mlp.de always crashes at my box the first or second time [10:24] sabdfl, thom: this is the site I could reproduce it most reliably [10:25] and it's a memory hog, currently at 580M on my machine. you have to restart it every day (if it doesn't crash ;) === HrdwrBoB [matt@mullum.vicnet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:34] is gnome-nettool generally useful? should we be shipping it? === seb128 [~seb128@AAubervilliers-105-1-2-128.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] morning [10:37] Hi seb128! [10:37] hello pitti [10:45] any consideration of replacing totem/gstreamer with something that works? [10:45] like xine/gxine [10:45] hazmaz: apt-get install totem-xine (or xine-ui) [10:46] hazmaz: we cannot do that by default because of patent restrictions [10:46] hazmaz: BTW, personally I still prefer mplayer; this rocks [10:47] ic.. thanks for the clarification [10:47] perhaps an item for the faq [10:48] sabdfl, as an admin, i personally don't use it, all these tools exist on cli. But for regular users who want something a little more powerfull, i think many would appreciate it. It is on the gnome-website so people miss it when it is not there. === fabbione does some woody -> warty upgrade tests [10:55] plovs_work: i guess it is in main for those who want it. but i think it would go well in Applications->System Tools [10:59] sabdfl, it *is* part of gnome 2.8, people on irc ask why it is not in the bas-install, they have a point, i would vote for putting it in [10:59] do we a policy how to create a new version, when a new upload of the source is needed? tetex-base-2.0.2b -> tetex-base-2.0.2b-1 ? [11:00] doko: why not using the same approach as debian? [11:00] dolo: tetex-base-2.0.2b.dfsg.1 [11:00] or something === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lypanov [~alex@fw1.lunatech.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:01] well, it's not permanent, the Debian maintainer and upstream agree on the removal, so it's a temporary version. [11:02] doko: a new upstream release means 2.0.2c [11:02] or similar [11:02] so a b.whatever is fine [11:03] ok, I'd like the version as short as possible. === aes [~andrew@as583.emma.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] isn't glibc using 'ds'? Like 2.3.2.ds.1? How about that? [11:04] oh, and what does ds stand for, btw? :) [11:04] development snapshot? [11:05] deliberate suicide [11:05] hey, glibc stole that one from gcc ;) "debian source" [11:05] so make it 'us' ;) [11:06] i can't wait to see the first USA [11:06] Ubuntu Security Announcement [11:06] ok, that would become 2.0.2bus :) [11:06] yeah and next one is 2.0.2taxi [11:06] 2.0.2tram === lypanov always thinks daniel stone :P [11:07] we run out after underground [11:07] the term 'ds' is probably older than daniels [11:07] doko: shuttle? [11:07] sabdfl: yesterday I installed Warty from scratch and now I can indeed not import mp3 files in Rhythmbox any more [11:07] sabdfl: odd, this worked fine before [11:09] seb128: do you know why rhythmbox cannot import mp3 files any more? This worked fine some time ago [11:10] pitti: gstreamer0.8-mad is installed ? [11:10] seb128: no [11:10] seb128: I did not install this manually on my previous install, though [11:10] ok, that's it probably [11:10] rhythmbox (0.8.5-1ubuntu2) warty; urgency=low [11:10] . [11:10] * debian/control.in: [11:10] - Remove binary dependency on gstreamer0.8-mad. [11:10] seb128: we should probably install it by default [11:10] Jeff did that saturday [11:11] seb128: do you know whether germinate handles Recommends:? [11:11] pitti: if Jeff did that, there is probably a reason [11:11] seb128: okay, I will ask him. ThanksQ [11:11] seb128: s/Q/!/ [11:11] pitti: no idea sorry, but -mad is probrably problematic for patents issues [11:12] seb128: What a pity. Playing mp3 files is not patent protected, just creating them [11:12] are you sure ? [11:12] seb128: -mad is even in universe now :-( [11:12] seb128: pretty sure, yes. [11:12] seb128: but maybe the -mad library also includes the encoder? [11:13] RedHat also dropped mp3 playback some time ago [11:13] pitti: no [11:13] dunno if they put it back in === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:14] seb128: I will look for the mp3 licensing issue [11:15] pitti: better to just ask to Jeff, he knows the details [11:22] pitti: http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/index.html [11:22] seb128: I'm just reading it [11:22] ok [11:22] seb128: seems like my memory did not served me so well: it is free (beer) for private use only [11:22] seb128: that's why I did not convert my collection completely to ogg [11:23] ok [11:23] seb128: but it does not meet the DFSG since you must pay for commercial applications [11:23] are you talking about the algorithm/spec, or about Fraunhofer's implementation? === pitti is going to convert his mp3s to ogg now... [11:23] azeem: the licensing page talks about "technology", not "software" [11:24] azeem: so I suppose it's the algorithm they patented (which would make sense in their POV) [11:26] azeem: from the website: "I have my own/third party mp3 software. Do I need a license? [11:26] Yes. Use of our patents is not related to a specific implementation of encoders and decoders, which means that a license under our patents is needed. " [11:26] "How do you tell if a piece of software violates a patent? Run wc -l on [11:26] the source; if the number is greater than 1000, it probably does." [11:26] -- Nat Friedman [11:28] hehe [11:44] what is the command in vim to go "vertical" visual? [11:44] ctrl-v [11:44] mdz, jdub: ok to upload tetex-base without the file with the non-free license? #2066 [11:44] you mean so you can cut a block? [11:44] lypanov: yes, but a vertical block [11:45] ctrl-v will do that [11:45] doko: read the last mail from Matt about uploads and peer-review [11:45] lypanov: thanks [11:45] np === lypanov is writing a vim clone in ruby atm :P [11:48] fabbione: which list/date? === sivang [~pooh@80.179.82.182.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:49] fabbione: ok, could you do the review? [11:49] morning fabbione === tof--- [~tof@blueice3n1.uk.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sanitario [~sanitario@dynamic-45-171.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === faux [~faux@dynamic-46-9.chl.chalmers.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:00] doko: sure [12:00] hi sivang [12:01] chinstrap:~doko/tetex/ [12:02] hey fabbione, we need to find someway to make nv/nvidia use 100Hz on the flatrons, as it _is_ supported ;) [12:02] sivang: it requires a specific mode-line [12:02] i saw a message floating around [12:02] fabbione : I have tested a bit with knoppix, and see it detects the 100Hz capability, although have been unable to make it work on knoppix ;) [12:03] fabbione : could you point me to the message or else? [12:03] doko: basically you purged the file from the .orig and that's it? [12:03] sivang: i saw it on #ubuntu [12:03] yes, the .tex and the documentation file. [12:03] ok, i'll ask see if someone knows about it [12:03] doko: ok that's the same i would have done.. [12:04] doko: do we know if something actually uses that file? [12:04] that reminds me === fabbione -> food [12:05] any chance that ubuntu will do modelines and stuff? [12:05] as X -configure don't like my dell :) === sanitario [~sanitario@dynamic-45-171.chl.chalmers.se] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:07] well, looking at the package itself, nothing. but it gets recommended in the LaTeX companion :( Then it should be added to tetex-nonfree ... === yuval [~Yuval@62.90.243.163] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:23] doko: hmmmmm [12:27] tetex-extra is still in main [12:27] there is no tetex-nonfree [12:27] apt-cache search tetex-nonfree [12:27] tetex-extra - Additional library files of teTeX [12:31] hmm, what to do? if some package build depends on the removed file ... [12:32] doko: should we give a fast look to rdepends and run a check rebuild of the packages? [12:34] pitti: i hate asking, but if you move your .mozilla out the way and restart firefox, does it still crash? [12:34] thom: lemme try [12:34] thom: although I already tried this several times... [12:34] thom: it doesn't look like you hate asking me to hug you :P [12:35] thom: yes, it still crashes [12:35] pitti: gar. i can't reproduce this at all [12:35] thom: does it work for you? You might have to try this two or three times [12:35] thom: okay, I will try to get a backtrace. [12:37] fabbione: these are 55 packages. could these be built in test-only mode? lamont? [12:37] thom: hmm, I got a backtrace, but it does not say much. I guess I have to build a debugging version [12:38] thom: but it's not that critical, most websites work okay [12:40] doko: we can build 55 packages by hand... [12:40] doko: it doesn't take too long [12:40] thom: strace says "SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0)" -> NULL pointer access [12:40] doko: but the problem is if we need that file [12:40] doko: that means creating or importing that tetex-nonfree thingy, move the packages to restricted and change build-dep [12:41] pitti: eh!? [12:41] doko: i don't think that's even possible at 8 days from release [12:41] pitti: hrm, i just created a totally clean user, had no problems at all [12:41] thom: maybe it does not occurr on amd64? [12:41] thom: I build a debug version and extract a bt again [12:42] thom: I can do that in the background [12:42] yeah, i'm gonna install an x86 warty on here in a sec and try that [12:46] thom: ugh, 40 MB compressed source? This will take a while to compile on my Duron 1.3... [12:47] yeah, it's no fun [12:52] fabbione: we don't need to build them, grepping for the removed file would be enough. [12:54] doko: as well... [12:54] doko: but it depends how the package is done... a dbs/cdbs or similar will require unpacking first [12:57] any need for a fast compilatio machine? [12:57] ohh yes, let's see how the upstream author of the file will react, if he changes the license. I'll start on the packages tomorrow. [12:57] (pentium IV 2.6HT ) [12:57] sitting and wasting it's cycles..:-) [12:58] sivang: that's considerably slower than our buildds :-) [12:59] thom : they are IA machines? [12:59] sivang: dual 3.3 Xeons [12:59] thom : oooo. I see [12:59] thom : I just was pitti was referring to his "slow" 1.3 duron ;) [12:59] pitti : what to you need to compile? [12:59] sivang: thanks but we need to test a package that is not in the archive yet. [01:00] sivang: and check 55 packages depending on it [01:00] sivang: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip,noopt debuild -us -uc -b for mozilla-firefox [01:00] fabbione : it has a source package right? [01:00] sivang: I'm already at it, but this will probably last over an hour [01:00] doko: ok. fine for me. let me know if you need help [01:00] sivang: not in the archive [01:00] pitti : oh, new upstream source? [01:01] sivang: no, I just need a debugging-enabled version [01:01] sivang: to find a segfault [01:01] pitti : i see. [01:01] instead of blabbering, i [01:01] 'd better ask for the bug# [01:01] ? [01:02] pitti: ooi, does this happen for you on ppc, too? [01:02] sivang: BTW, can you try whether https://financepilot-banking.mlp.de (and then clicking on the continuation link) crashes for you? [01:02] thom: : I can try [01:02] please [01:03] thom: booting... [01:03] thom : I've been to some computer junk yard, they'd sell me an AlphaAXP monster for about 500$ [01:03] thom : :-) does this qualify as a buildd? [01:04] pitti : it won't even start. [01:04] sivang: you mean firefox does not even start on your box? [01:04] pitti : mozilla won't start now, let's kill x and relogin [01:04] sivang: 2066. the problem is a bit more complicate than it looks like [01:04] sivang: not mozilla, firefox please [01:04] sivang: removing that file is (at this point in time) the solution for the bug, but there are 55 packages depending on that package. [01:04] pitti : , sorry that _was_ firefix [01:05] sivang: that needs to be checked if they make any use of the file that needs to be removed === sivang reloggs [01:05] fabbione : ok [01:05] brb [01:05] sivang: so it's a bit complex. On the otherside there is the option that the author of that file will relicence it and nothing needs to be done [01:06] hmmm [01:06] strange, [01:06] I just upgraded. [01:06] dpkg segfaulted [01:06] when I tried to install linux-image-686-smp [01:06] that didn't happen before.. === sivang trying a reboot [01:08] thom: firefox on ubuntu crashes as well [01:08] thom: s/ubuntu/ppc/ [01:08] bah [01:08] ok [01:08] just about to reboot and install [01:09] thom: my locale is de_DE.UTF-8 (but firefox runs as en_EN) === sivang [~debianist@80.179.82.182.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] sivang: dpkg segfaults? Don't you know that dpkg does not segfault 8 days before release candidate release? :-P [01:12] hmmm [01:12] i think I have a dead warty here :( [01:12] I am now on sid [01:12] i cannot boot warty no more. [01:12] "ld has spawned too fast" [01:12] remember pitti when we thought this was because I extracted my old home dir? [01:13] well, guess what? ;-) [01:13] I think it has something to do with dpkg [01:13] I will have to go out in a sec (getting a new Ultrawide SCSI Server) I will come back to investigate. [01:16] i will also try to fetch a log if I can from the warty === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-23-208.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:23] thom: argh, I just see that the firefox package does not respect DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS [01:23] thom: any easy method to enable debugging? [01:24] guys is that true that RHAS or ES requires a yearly licence otherwise "It stops working"??? [01:24] someone is asking me via sms and i have no clue [01:24] last time i checked RH was 7.1 or lower [01:27] thom: don't bother, I fixed debian/rules [01:31] <|trey|> fabbione: no its not true [01:31] <|trey|> fabbione: not even microsoft does that. [01:31] <|trey|> fabbione: of course, updates via rhn stop [01:32] <|trey|> Its in their best interest for you not to become interested in other products though... [01:32] |trey|: ok.. i expected so [01:33] like ubuntu... ;) [01:34] |trey|: i still remember that night i had to install RH.. brrrr i am still shaking [01:35] <|trey|> fabbione: enless you want a flame in a devel channel, I suggest that be the end of that discussion ;) [01:35] |trey|: eehhe [01:37] pitti: please send a patch :-) [01:38] thom: by now I just hardcoded the change, but a patch is easy [01:38] thom: I will send it to you [01:38] thanks :-) [01:39] ok, i get crashes on x86 [01:40] ROCK and ROLL [01:42] thom: maybe your 64 bit are enough to make it work :-) [01:42] thom: as soon as the build finished, I can debug this, if you want [01:44] well, it's litterally the biggest bug i have left, so i might as well [01:44] i have a faster machine too, so it's much less painful for me :-) [01:44] thom: okay [01:44] thom: how do you build debugging versions, BTW? If not with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS? [01:46] i'd not had need to before now, guess i'm just lucky :-) [01:47] thom: odd, doesn't an -O2 built firefox work on so many arches? [01:48] pitti: apparently not, that's very much legacy but the debian maintainer has been specifically turning them off [01:49] thom: I have a patch for debian/rules, where shall I send it? thom@canonical.com? [01:49] yes please === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] ccache should be in build-essential *g* [02:16] thom: build-essential should include a virtual cluster :P [02:16] that'd be nice too [02:17] but possibly a little impractical [02:23] pitti: on your ibook, can you ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/arch/powerpc/kernel/cpu/cpufreq ? [02:23] or tell me what cpufreq module you need to load? [02:23] thom: I have to boto it again [02:23] oh [02:23] thom: [02:23] not urgent [02:24] just trying to get the powernowd modules loading stuff right [02:24] thom: oh, it works well out of the box on my iBook [02:25] really? cool [02:25] thom: in fact, the latest isos set up almost everything right out of the box [02:26] thom: the only outstanding issue is the swapped Alt/Apple on the consoles [02:26] thom: I have the following modules: cpufreq_{userspace,powersave} [02:26] thom: they are not hw-specific, I think [02:27] also, apm_emu [02:28] your kernel probably has CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PMAC=y [02:28] you should have a cpufreq-something or a powernow-something module [02:28] ah, or it gets built in. which would be odd [02:29] thom: above two are the only ones [02:29] thom: for ppc there is just one type of cpu freq switching thingie [02:29] thom: I can look up specific things in the kernel config, if you want [02:29] afaik [02:30] pitti: grep for the option that sjoerd just quoted, please :-) [02:30] sjoerd: there's only one on amd64, but that's modular. it would just seem a little inconsistent :-) [02:30] thom: its compiled in [02:31] thom: CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_PMAC and CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_TABLE are both 'y' [02:31] answers that one then [02:31] cool, makes my life easier [02:31] thom: looks like i can't turn it into a module here [02:31] thom: btw, any luck with firefox? [02:38] pitti: building === lypanov [~alex@fw1.lunatech.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [02:38] ah, just finished [02:38] only a glorious 25minutes [02:39] thom: on a powerful amd64 machine? [02:39] thom: then I suppose it would have lasted 1.5 hours on mine :-) === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:39] yeah, a marketed-at-3GHz amd64 with a GB of ram [02:40] (ie, it's real clock speed is 2GHz) [02:40] they still do this with amd64? [02:40] thought they just use some random numbers these days, or just for the Opteron servers? [02:41] model name : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ [02:41] cpu MHz : 2003.246 [02:41] bah [02:42] model name : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 240 [02:42] cpu MHz : 1395.656 [02:42] more prudent === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] is /topic out of date or do I need to update my search? [02:47] azeem: nod [02:48] they obviously couldn't escape the marketroids for the consumer chips :/ [02:54] oh man. the backtrace for mozilla is making me tired just looking at it === thom goes to procure strong tea [02:56]