=== elmo_ [~james@83.216.141.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ph [~ph@pD958751E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~byte@drbyte.fedora] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~pooh@80.179.82.182.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:33] jdub : I have tried to modify gnome-system-tools package, if I dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it without modifications, no prob. it makes a new deb. [04:34] jdub : however, if I change anything inside /src or /backends it gets upset telling that intltool is outdated. [04:39] jdub : I've been trying to add some code to it to enable me to do xml output dump outs to see what's going on the interfaces xml db, see #2221 [04:49] what are you changing? === sladen_ [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:52] jdub : I tried to you xml_doc_dump (or something similar) to profile_save_interfaces. [04:53] jdub : I also enabled debugging mode for the backend, [04:53] jdub : so it won't trash my system's iface file and allow me to see errors. [04:53] jdub : there was a debug flag commented on network-conf.in , I used it [04:55] jdub : I'm headed to bed (4:45 am my time :) you can leave here comments if you have any idea ;) I'd appriciate it. [04:57] jdub : better, on the bugtrail [04:59] night all === npmccallum [~npmccallu@69-162-252-7.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dreamcatcher [sidnei@dreamcatcher.base.supporter.pdpc] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:10] mdz: ping === dreamcatcher [sidnei@dreamcatcher.base.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-68-92-227-78.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:31] anybody around? [07:03] fabbione: here [07:03] mdz: cupsys is up [07:03] i am working on emacs21 [07:03] mdz: is the patch for emacs final? [07:13] fabbione: upstream accepted it [07:13] on the mailing list, RMS said to commit it, so I think that is good enough :-) [07:15] ok [07:15] wtf is wrong with dpatch [07:26] mdz: emacs is ready [07:26] ok to upload? [07:28] heck.. you gave me the patch ;) [07:29] goody we are down again to 13 [07:29] later :-) === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Maskie_ [~maskie@196-30-110-210.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === npmccallum [~npmccallu@69-162-252-7.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-059-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [~fabbione@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:24] review wanted: patch for #2216 attached to the bug report. === npmccallum [~npmccallu@69-162-252-7.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-059-003.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [~fabbione@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:25] mdz: nvidia; approval wanted. [10:25] Mithrandir: has someone looked over it? [10:25] and have you done the regression test on the i386 packages that we discussed? [10:26] mdz: fabbione thinks the nvidia part of it looks good; I've done a debdiff on i386, but I don't have any i386 with ubuntu at home [10:26] debdiff should be sufficient [10:26] (debdiff on the binary packages, that is) [10:26] if you would unpack it and checksum all the files, too, I wouldn't be opposed to that :-) [10:27] that debian/rules seemed a bit clumsy [10:27] (the original one) [10:27] did you clean it up, or add an amd64-specific mess? :-) [10:27] somewhere in between -- I abstracted stuff a little, but I don't want to possibly destabilize the package this close to release. [10:28] I can unpack the packages and checksum, sure. [10:29] http://err.no/patches/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1.2-3_2.6.8.1.3-1.amd64.diff is the diff [10:34] mdz: if you could look at it, test it on i386 and do whatever other magic you want to do, it would be most appreciated; I'll checksum it on i386. If that matches, is it ok to upload? === Mithrandir wanders off for breakfast and will look at the answer when he comes back === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-049-196.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~byte@drbyte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:13] say, glibc has been "updated" to allow the time within gnome to be updated fixing gnome bug #19197 - can that make it before release? [11:14] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=133481 is the bug thats fixed in Fedora, but still around in Ubuntu (just tested) [11:18] mdz: ^^ looks like a reasonably non-intrusive patch to me [11:19] daniels: it is, and makes the UI more usable [11:19] also, how comfortable are ya'all if i link to RH bugzilla stuff in Ubuntu bugzilla? [11:20] cc: as in, 'check out this Ubuntu bug', or intimate BZ linking? [11:21] daniels: no as in I'll file an RFE or bugreport in Ubuntu, link to a RH bz entry where the "fix" is, and hope ya'all integrate it :) === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] cc: ah, right, sure :) [11:25] cc: we don't really have RFEs, just bugs [11:25] pick the right severity, that's all you need [11:25] daniels: yeah, just checking in case ya'all get annoyed or not. thanks. === pitti_ [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:28] cc: that'd be great, thanks :) [11:37] thom: dude, you need to set up a Planet for Planet developers [11:37] thom: planet.planetplanet.org === daniels is setting up a Planet for everyvoteforjohnhowardgodkillsakitten.org. [11:40] jdub: here? [11:41] pitti: pong [12:17] daniels: I don't see a patch there..the description in RH bugzilla sounds fairly straightforward, but to be honest, I think that touching glibc right now, for a feature, would be in very bad taste [12:19] anybody able to help with a question on python packages? [12:19] sabdfl: shoot. [12:19] mdz: s/patch/change/ [12:19] mdz: fair enough [12:19] i have a directory call vocabulary [12:19] inside that an __init__.py [12:20] which imports * from two other files, call them foo and bar [12:20] now, in another file, i want to import * from foo but I don't want to trigger the import of bar [12:20] because of circular imports [12:20] but when I do: vocabilary.foo [12:21] wasn't this just discussed on the launchpad list? [12:21] sorry [12:21] could be [12:21] when i do from vocablary.foo import * it seems to import bar as well [12:22] foo imports bar? [12:24] no [12:24] foo and bar are independent [12:25] it's the __init__.py that binds them together [12:25] and when you import vocabulary.foo, it evaluates __init__.py? [12:26] appears to [12:26] >>> import canonical.launchpad.database [12:26] --Return-- [12:26] > /usr/lib/python2.3/pdb.py(992)set_trace()->None [12:26] -> Pdb().set_trace() [12:26] (Pdb) bt [12:26] (1)?() [12:26] /home/mark/projects/ubuntu/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/database/__init__.py(4)?() [12:26] -> from canonical.launchpad.database.person import * [12:26] /home/mark/projects/ubuntu/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/database/person.py(14)?() [12:26] sabdfl: having __init__.py being __all__ = ['foo', 'bar' ] [12:26] -> from canonical.launchpad.interfaces.person import IPerson, IPersonSet, \ [12:27] /home/mark/projects/ubuntu/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/interfaces/__init__.py(13)?() [12:27] -> from canonical.launchpad.interfaces.bug import * [12:27] /home/mark/projects/ubuntu/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/interfaces/bug.py(12)?() [12:27] -> from canonical.launchpad.vocabulary.dbschema import * [12:27] /home/mark/projects/ubuntu/launchpad/lib/canonical/launchpad/vocabulary/__init__.py(2)?() [12:27] -> import pdb; pdb.set_trace() [12:27] > /usr/lib/python2.3/pdb.py(992)set_trace()->None [12:27] -> Pdb().set_trace() [12:27] (Pdb) [12:27] Mithrandir: but I want to populate the __init__.py namespace with the contents of both foo and bar [12:28] i want to refer to these things as canonical.launchpad.vocabulary.XYZ [12:28] whenre XYZ could be in foo or bar [12:28] this would seem to only be a problem because foo and bar are under 'vocabulary'; could they not be in an adjacent module rather than in the same one? [12:29] that's why i have "from canonical.launchpad.vocabulary.foo import *" in __init__.py [12:29] hmm... could be [12:30] i could maybe create a vocabulary.py which imported them from adjacent files [12:30] yes, or that [12:31] does every directory in the module tree need to have an __init__.py? [12:31] no [12:32] ok [12:32] let me play with that idea === x4m [~max@198.155-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-210.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:36] hmm, actually they do need a __init__.py if they have .py files in them, rather than extension modules and the like [12:36] but it can be empty [12:37] ok [12:37] just ran into that problem :-) [12:37] whadyaknow [12:37] thanks mdz, Mithrandir [12:38] I was still technically correct, since the top-level directory doesn't need a __init__.py :-) [12:39] well, then you were correct both times, slightly differently [12:40] I get the feeling that I should be asleep [12:40] night [12:57] night mdz [01:00] btw. i pointed out an important bug in sqlos txn integration the other day, svn should be updated. [01:00] txn aborts could lead to data corruption on subsequent commits [01:53] mdz: the checksums don't line up, but that seems to be due to timestamps for .a files and hardcoding of paths in kernel objects. [02:09] mdz: still there? what about the template translations for the installer packages? [02:10] doko: 12:40 < mdz> night === bob2 [rob@bob2.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb_ [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === npmccallum [~npmccallu@69-162-252-7.ironoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mako [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [~fabbione@port1845.ds1-khk.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vuntz [~vuntz@fennas.vuntz.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === remorse [~najib@cm179.omega32.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-111-1-22-179.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@syndicate.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:58] Keybuk: hey ho [03:58] heyhi [03:58] sup? [03:58] hungover :( [03:58] heh [03:58] f1 party? or did you also hold a massive post-.au-election wake? [03:59] neither. went out last night with an old school friend [03:59] ahr === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [doko@smile.cs.tu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@50-65.244.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:15] bob2: optional:uncompiled isn't a state... [06:15] oh [06:15] but I'm checking [06:16] universe/net/kismet_2004.04.R1-1.1: Installed [optional:uncompiled] [06:16] that'd be 'Installed'... [06:16] Filename: pool/universe/k/kismet/kismet_2004.04.R1-1.1_i386.deb [06:16] Size: 953826 [06:17] or which arch are you asking about? [06:17] powerpc. [06:17] sorry, didn't even think to check if it was built on another arch [06:18] snacc is ftbfs on powerpc. and kismet is dep-wait on that [06:18] poke me tomorrow and I'll see what I can do about that... === lamont must leave now, before blood is shed. [06:18] sure, thanks a lot === x4m [~max@50-65.244.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~sivang@CBL217-132-211-11.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:26] bob2: interestingly, snacc is now ftbfs on i386 as well.. [11:48] nice, the firefox no scroll wheel crappiness has been confirmed and may even get worked on soon [11:52] mdz: just snagged the last security patch, getting ready to upload [11:54] (for firefox, i mean)