[12:06] ddaa: phew, i was worried about our weenie buildbot [12:06] seemed almost... french === sabdfl ducks and runs for cover [12:06] much happier with a manly pyarch [12:08] a manly man [12:12] spiv: so, its a larger job than you thought? [12:13] lifeless: A little.. I misunderstood lalo's work a little. [12:14] lalos work will be useful for me, FWICT. [12:14] auto-commits bad for taxi, v. bad. [12:14] Yeah, I'm basing this off his stuff. [12:15] It's a good start, it just doesn't go far enough :) [12:15] I'm close to having the threads-happy code written and factored somewhat nicely, but I need to test it a bit before I make you my guinea pig for it ;) [12:16] sniff sniff, fart, sniff sniff fart [12:17] lifeless: commentary on my work, or diary of you morning? Or would I rather not know? ;) [12:17] being a guinea pig. [12:17] you ever observed one of those beasties ? [12:19] Not really. [12:20] well then. [12:21] Oh, I see. === BradB celebrates a pqm failure [12:35] drinks all around! [12:39] ddaa: where are you at now with stuff ? [12:41] Still not run buildbot again with the fixed PYTHONPATH [12:42] been fixing my arch-submit-merge, checking the test suite failure, got phoned twice by gfriend... === Kinnison prods gently at an almost working gina [12:46] just gotta get distroarchreleases hacked in and I can do a "gold" import of a katie snapshot === Kinnison gets all excited [12:47] Kinnison: is gina working on new DB ? [12:51] lifeless: anything in particular you want to tell me. I'm going to bed soon. [12:53] cprov: She will be === Kinnison is feeding her some good distroarchrelease crack [12:54] ddaa: I need you to run with the fixed python path and tell me it works. [12:54] cprov: is this dump only i386? [12:54] then, you are set to start checking off imports tomorrow, and I can relax a little. [12:55] lifeless: sent you the message just after starting the import run... [12:55] waiting for it to complete [12:55] cprov: aah no; I see; gina only does one arch at a time [12:55] ohohoh, bad file descriptor again. [12:55] lifeless: [12:55] not my descriptor! :-P [12:56] dude: [12:56] importdtest@chinstrap:~$ PYTHONPATH=~/buildbot/launchpad/lib:~/buildbot/launchpad/lib/canonical/sourcerer/util python [12:56] Python 2.3.4 (#2, Jun 21 2004, 11:11:53) [12:56] [GCC 3.3.4 (Debian)] on linux2 [12:56] Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. [12:56] >>> import twisted [12:56] >>> import arch [12:56] >>> print arch._tla.spawn [12:56] that is so not the right spawning strategy. [12:56] [12:56] cprov: if I can get her importing overnight then I'll commit the changes tomorrow === ddaa checks for the pqm ack [12:57] it acked [12:57] check for my archive if in doubt [12:57] pqm has not yet sent the reply... [12:57] patch-49 in rocketfuel. [12:57] Now it should be DelayedGuessedSpawningStrategy [12:58] oh, silly me. [12:58] blush. [12:58] had missed a star-merge. [01:01] Kinnison: I can't create the new DB on zhongshan, so I can't run them. have you modified gina or is it working fine ? [01:01] elmo: around ? [01:04] lifeless: yeah [01:05] any luck on that basic->certificate conversion ? [01:05] elmo: hi dude, can you grant me perms to createlang on zhongshan ? [01:06] cprov: meh [01:06] cprov: I had a lot of modifications to gina [01:06] lifeless: I'm ready - I asked Steve when I could convert rosetta, didn't get a response.. [01:06] cprov: I just commented out the plpython stuff from the makefile [01:06] elmo: now. [01:06] lifeless: rosetta? [01:06] or macquarie? [01:06] (its launchpad, not rosetta) [01:06] yeah, macquarie. [01:07] nono, rosetta the machine [01:07] I'm blocked - can't do any conversions - till this happens. [01:07] elmo: I don't know about rosetta - I don't use it. [01:07] rosetta the machine I mean [01:08] cprov: I hgave you createuser too - if that doesn't work, shout.. or do what kinnison did [01:09] elmo: Can you close that psql so I can re-build my db? postgres won't let me createdb while someone is using template1 [01:09] elmo: now works :) [01:10] elmo: tks [01:10] cprov: if you want to play; take a copy of gina from my ~ on zhongshan [01:10] cprov: although my gina does expect a librarian too and I'd appreciate you not putting stuff into the librarian I have running just now :-) [01:10] Kinnison: done [01:10] lifeless: ok one sec === Kinnison ruffles elmo. Thanks dude. [01:11] Kinnison: ok [01:12] Well; I'm leaving gina importing against the new DB and I'm off to bed. If all goes well I'll commit the changes tomorrow morning [01:12] And if it went *really well* then I'll be starting to extract archives from the db again tomorrow :-) === Kinnison bounces [01:12] Kinnison: anyway I intend to run gina and nicole today to have a full DB tomorrow [01:12] g'night all [01:12] night [01:15] lifeless: test inconclusive... same weird exceptions in enforceTargetNewOrCleanAndUpdated [01:15] then I have some issues setting up the sandboxing right [01:15] ddaa: thats strange, I put that in as a 'it should never happen but lets be thorough' check. [01:16] That's prolly a problem with my revlib. [01:16] aalib get revlib entries [01:16] ah. [01:16] thus the attempts to sandboxing [01:16] will continue to go down that road tomorrow [01:16] well, if I may suggest - shortest path - disable your rev lib. [01:17] if that fixes is, so that it then works, then start sandboxing. [01:17] That's not shortest path. I need the revlib for my actual VCS needs. [01:17] aalib is known bad, it has default branches. [01:17] anything in arch.ubuntu.com is known good. [01:18] Great. I'll test a few of them to become confident that my setup is right, and then I'll bodly go when no buildbot has gone before. [01:18] ddaa: it is shortest path - it eliminates a variable, and doing an a52dec test run is fast - about 10 minutes. [01:18] a52dec breaks, you remember? [01:18] when that works, then reenable the revlib, and try sanboxed. [01:19] how does it break ? (in what manner) [01:19] night all [01:19] (really this time) [01:19] In any case I have to go bed now. [01:19] ok, night ddaa [01:19] thanks [01:19] bah, chinstrap is still 70 [01:19] % idle. === lifeless starts another job [01:21] lifeless: it breaks on the cvs version detection. [01:22] I showed you the backtrace yesterday. [01:22] ddaa: oh thats right. [01:22] did you breakpoint the cvs version call and see what it was tring to do ? [01:22] I did not. [01:22] or equally, add a logger.* message. [01:22] ok. go to bed, see you tomorrow [01:23] cprov: excellent, looking forward to seeing the results of the run [01:23] i am finishing up the product release and product series stuff now [01:24] then i'd like to update nicole so that for each project it finds, it create the ProductSeries for each branch, then populates it with ProductReleases [01:24] G'night warthogs, guinea pigs, suidae of all sorts [01:24] night ddaa === lifeless fights the urge to start optimising tla using python === ddaa seconds lifeless from his bed === lifeless says through a loudspeaker horn 'put the laptop down and enter dreams with your eyes closed' [01:30] sabdfl: sorry, I was afk for while, yes gina is running on zhongshan ! [01:32] sabdfl: I will work on you request for ProductSeries til tomorrow [01:34] cprov: ok, tomorrow is fine [01:34] should be easy for you to create them now [01:34] and by tomorrow afternoon, productrelease should be done too [01:36] sabdfl: of course, add comments on bug #2088 if you need more something === cprov says good night [01:53] lifeless: sent you a client cert - please tell me if it works for you [01:56] checking [01:59] elmo: erm: [01:59] Hi, [01:59] <#part type="application/octet-stream" filename="~/ubuntu/ssl/ca/launchpad.p12" disposition=attachment description="launchpad client cert"> [01:59] <#/part> [01:59] that all I got [01:59] -- [01:59] James [01:59] lifeless: you should save it locally, import it into your browser [02:00] sabdfl: I know that, but I don't seem to /have/ it [02:00] ok === BradB is now known as BradB|away [02:02] elmo: yea, every way I try, I only end up with those 7 lines [02:07] ah, heh [02:07] I'm being stupid [02:07] lifeless: resent properly [02:08] :] [02:09] elmo: to me too please if it's a different one === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #launchpad [] [02:12] SteveA: around ? [02:17] spiv: around ? [02:17] lifeless: Yeah. === lifeless trolls for a lunchpadder [02:18] I need a launchpad account on the production launchpad [02:18] my 'person' already exists. [02:18] lifeless: Ah, hmm. [02:18] gimme a sec, I'll see if you have a pw set. [02:18] or should anyway, for the creation of the sourcesources. [02:19] You don't. [02:19] Hmm, I think there's a "reset my password" thing you can use? [02:20] spiv: does it have an email address for me ?(I'm asking you as I haven't studied the guts of this..) [02:21] if so, which email addy [02:21] It has robertc@robertcollins.net [02:21] lets see if htis works [02:24] yay [02:24] woohoo! [02:24] I'm IN BABY [02:24] yayayayyayay [02:24] Excellent :) [02:24] so, hows taxi-unbreakme-coming along ? [02:24] lifeless: So, how can I test my changes to taxi? [02:25] Heh :) [02:25] well, you can setup a whole test environment... === BradB [~bradb@modemcable165.196-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [02:25] or just commit them and I'll cherry pick em into chinstrap and test [02:25] commit but not merge I mean [02:25] Ok. [02:25] This will be entertaining... === BradB is now known as BradB|away [02:26] coool, computerbank are selling pc's with ubuntu on them. === spiv mirrors his changes [02:27] Sweet. [02:28] what projects do I need to update ? [02:28] You'll need sqlobject--test--0.6 if you're not already using it. [02:28] done [02:29] I also have changes to launchpad, configs--buildbot-lifelesslap, and and buildbot [02:30] ok. === spiv is still mirroring [02:30] what changed in configs--buidlbot-lifelesslap ? [02:30] One line :) [02:30] ... ? [02:32] andrew.bennetts@canonical.com/configs--buildbot--0--patch-1 is the change you need. [02:32] Sorry, two lines, but one of them is an import. [02:33] lets start with lunchbox [02:34] launchpad changes are in my launchpad--zopeless-transactions--0 [02:34] which is still mirroring... [02:34] ok [02:34] (and cau(and causing me lag) [02:35] Mirroring done. [02:40] ok [02:42] My buildbot (i.e. taxi) changes are in my buildbot--devel--0 [02:47] are there sqlobject changes? [02:49] ok, in my buildbot, I don't initialise the db in processDB [02:49] :) [02:50] lets try this sucker out [02:51] I've started a test job, takes about 10 to import it [03:00] ok, you missed an import in taxi [03:00] at the top - can't import arch.database no more [03:01] and database.connect is still called. 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[10:23] cool [10:23] :) === Kinnison [~dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #launchpad [10:38] Morning [10:39] how is Lithuania this morning, Steve? below zero yet? :) [10:39] morning, Kinnison [10:47] 2 degrees above freezing, with a clear sunny sky === limi wonders why he keeps getting conflicts with arch when he hasn't touched a single file in the repository since yesterday evening [10:57] same templates as the ones supposedly fixed yesterday: [10:57] lib/canonical/launchpad/templates/bugsystems-index.pt x_Mark_Shuttleworth__Mon_Oct__4_21:56:28_2004_8303.0 [10:57] lib/canonical/launchpad/templates/bugtrackers-index.pt [11:09] sabdfl: Looks like the gina import last night completed without throwing any exceptions. I'm looking at the sample data now [11:09] Kinnison: excellent, thanks to cprov i think [11:10] sabdfl: oh? Was he prodding my copy of gina then? I admit I was very tired last night and possibly wasn't paying enough attention [11:11] Kinnison: no, just referring to the initial code [11:11] sabdfl: aah yes; cprov (and kiko?) did a fantastic job there === Kinnison ruffles spiv too; for the librarian has successfully stored 16GB across 35718 files :-) [11:12] spiv: good work! [11:13] limi: i don't think it works well when you send me files that you have changes but mot perged through PQM [11:13] not merged [11:13] mot perged indeed === Kinnison hands sabdfl new fingers. [11:14] This morning I will be mostly merging my local changes from zhongshan into a working tree to commit to rf [11:15] sabdfl: well, arch is not giving me much joy this morning (see mail to the list) but I am splitting things up and creating the files offline here - so you should be able to just drop them in your tree and commit [11:15] limi: Arch does seem to hate you :-( [11:15] hard when I can't run launchpad to verify my changes, though :( [11:16] Kinnison: it's reciprocal if that's any comfort :] [11:16] limi: *g* [11:17] archzoom doesn't have something like the "download tarball" feature of ViewCVS? [11:29] stub: you awake? [11:29] Yup [11:30] can I send you a static HTML file and we can discuss the mapping I need for the shorthand form in the portlets? [11:31] limi: sur [11:31] e [11:34] stub: should be there now [11:35] Urk [11:35] urk? [11:37] Just my initial impression :-) [11:37] well, wrong style sheet ;) [11:38] it's the only way you can pack so much information into that little space [11:38] Yer - doesn't make me like it any better ;) [11:39] nope [11:39] but sometimes functionality wins over elegance ;) [11:39] So you want a TLA for distribution, and abbreviations for severities etc. [11:39] yes [11:39] it's a bit ugly to do it with tal:conditions, I think [11:40] Your just pushing the ugly somewhere you can't see ;) [11:40] 'tis my destiny! [11:41] but a method shortPriority() or something would be nice [11:42] But they are colour coded as well - or do you want tal:content="structure bug/priority" to output C [11:42] any functional comments, btw? does it work with the dotted underlines and hovering descriptions? [11:42] Mozilla is broken ;) [11:42] their engine can't handle multiline tooltips [11:42] age-old bug [11:43] Mmm... unfortunately it is are primary browser target, no? Or is this a way of 'encouraging' a fix? :-) [11:44] yes and no - it's functional this way (just not optimal), and serves as a reminder for Mozilla, yes ;) [11:44] the bug has 160 comments in bugzilla [11:44] they are now quarreling about what to do with chinese unicode mappings or something [11:44] :P [11:45] and there is a patch attached that fixes the 99% issue, but nobody has applied it [11:45] typical Mozilla community process :] [11:45] anyway [11:45] get Thom to apply it to Ubuntu's firefox release :-) [11:46] if you have the normal getPriority() return "Critical", I do something like tal:attributes="class string:priority${getPriority}" [11:46] Functionally, I would think the colour coding would work better if the background colour was changed rather than the text colour. Might look spastic though since we have multiple colour coded columns. === justdave_ [~dave@24.247.63.44.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #launchpad [11:46] yes, I'm looking at that - this is not the final version in any sense, design-wise [11:46] just need to get the functionality and classes in [11:47] and I will experiment with colors afterwards [11:47] (I agree on background being better) [11:47] stub: we can put something in the /lp:whatever tal namesapce, if that will help === justdave_ is now known as justdave [11:47] I'm actually wondering if perhaps we should have a seperate page template for each priority or status [11:47] sounds like overkill to me [11:49] limi: It would mean the portlet template just does , which calls the 'condensed' view, which could do things like use an icon instead of a letter or change the descriptive text (currently hard coded in the .py file. You are right in that it might be overkill though. [11:50] SteveA: yer. called 'abbreviation' or something. [11:50] otherwise, don't have one template for each, but define one class, and have a method for each [11:50] it makes it hard to track where to change things if it's too decomposed [11:50] note that you'd probably need to use "structure" in the tal [11:51] if I can have getPriorityShorthand() and getSeverityShorthand() and getDistroShorthand(), I would be happy :) [11:51] limi: fairy 'nuff [11:51] we can refactor if it makes sense later [11:51] premature optimization etc ;) [11:51] limi: It would be tal:content="whatever/distro/shorthand" [11:51] perfect [11:52] And I've forgotten the syntax for the priorities etc. ;) [11:55] ok, ping me when you have settled on the syntax, and I will implement the display offline here (since my arch broke again) [11:56] It could be worse - you could be a windows developer trying to use Arch ;) [11:56] I was ;) [11:57] the reason (or excuse, depending on how you look at it) why I got a PB was arch [11:58] install ubuntu on it ;-) [11:58] SteveA: The dbschema.py stuff will need to grow 'shorthand'. Are we going to squeeze that into the parse-it-all-from-the-docstring approach ('''Minor (m)\n\nBlah blah blah''') === spiv has internet again [12:00] SteveA: yes, but I tend to like having an internet connection too ;) === limi will install Ubuntu on it after visiting Mark next week [12:00] stub: like this? [12:00] [12:00] MINOR = Item(4, ''' [12:00] Minor Severity (m) [12:00] This bug does not warrant an upload just to fix it, but [12:00] should if possible be fixed when next the maintainer does an [12:00] upload. For example, it might be a typo in a document. [12:00] ''') [12:00] [12:01] That is what I was thinking. I was just wondering if it is getting a little - erm - obtuse? [12:01] It reads to me a bit like a dictionary or glossary definition [12:01] which is kind of what it is [12:02] doesn't look to bad to me [12:02] limi: Are class attributes case sensitive? [12:02] what other things than "abbreviation" need to be added? [12:02] stub: yes, they are. [12:02] but I can change the class names if we need that [12:03] ok - sl is fine, given we have priority 'M' and priority 'm' [12:04] SteveA: I think that is all, unless we want a 'tooltip' to use instead of the description [12:04] the class name should use the real name, not the shortname [12:04] limi: The real name has spaces in it [12:04] why? [12:04] :] [12:04] "Normal Priority"? [12:05] that makes very little sense [12:05] Critical Severity, Normal Severity, Wishlist [12:05] bah, that sucks :] [12:05] no chance of changing that? [12:05] Hey - I'm not the UI guy :-) [12:06] what about the name in the class: MINOR, WISHLIST etc. [12:06] those won't contain spaces or dashes [12:06] so can be used as css classes [12:06] ah, so you have that too [12:06] that's fine [12:06] if you don't, access to them can be arranged by a little programming [12:06] I will try to repress my hatred for UPPERCASE ;) [12:07] yeah, as item.name [12:07] limi: can i use the following syntax for a stylesheet that is locally accessible? [12:07] It will survive l10n too, if we ever go non english [12:07] I still don't see why you want the state name to be "Normal Severity" instead of "Normal" [12:07] [12:07] ? [12:08] sabdfl: yes [12:08] thanks [12:08] that's what we do in the LP templates [12:08] so I can work even if LP is not running ,) [12:08] limi: It doesn't, and I don't care either way. I suspect that it is actually your call unless Mark wants to use his executive veto power [12:09] sabdfl: any objections to changing the state name to "Normal" instead of "Normal Severity"? [12:09] limi: none, go ahead [12:09] thanks [12:09] i think this is in dbschema.py [12:10] stub: can you do that while you're in there anyway, seeing as I can't commit at the moment? [12:10] limi: @import file() is not working [12:10] sabdfl: [12:10] make sure it is in [12:10] SteveA: Did you want to to the dbschema.py stuff for limi or shall I? [12:11] and that the CSS is in the same dir as the template [12:11] sabdfl: sorry, my fault - didn't see that you said file() [12:11] it's url() [12:11] stub: what exactly needs doing? Adding the abbreviation syntax, changing some other titles to remove "severity" from them? [12:11] even for a file in the same dir as the html? [12:12] yes, CSS has no concept of file() afaik [12:12] it's all URLs, baby [12:12] SteveA: Yes, Yes, making sure we have access to the item's name, and giving access through tal [12:13] SteveA: I need getSeverity() (returns: "Normal") and getSeverityShorthand() (returns: "N") [12:13] and getSeverityDescription() or similar for the tooltips [12:15] stub: if you file a bug on me, perhaps containing some tales that presents a bug that you want to see, I'll do it today. [12:15] ok. [12:27] New bug 2101 for Launchpad/Launchpad: abbreviations and tal: access to dbschema.py classes [12:27] https://bugzilla.warthogs.hbd.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2101 [12:34] Abbreviations for distributions - is there a web interface for creating or editing a distribution, or can I happily add a column to the database without breaking anything? [12:35] abbreviations? [12:36] Limi's mock up needs a compressed distribution name (so 'Deb' instead of Debian, 'Ubu' instead of Ubuntu) [12:37] Hmm... no thanks [12:37] distro.name === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #launchpad [] [12:37] well, there's no way you can cram "Red Hat Linux" into that portlet === limi isn't sure we should have this info in a portlet anyway, but... [12:39] might be useful in secondary views === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #launchpad [12:40] "RHL" ;) [12:40] Or "RHAT", their stock ticker symbol ;) [12:41] with accompanying stock value :P [12:41] "adjusted for linux distro inflation" [12:42] sabdfl: If you missed that, Limi cannot cram "Red Hat Linux" into the portlet he is working on [12:45] distro.name should be redhat [12:45] distro.name should follow the same rules as every other Table.name [12:45] it's a url component, mostly, sounds perfect for what limi is doing [12:46] limi: how do I add a portlet to the left and right of a page? [12:46] also, how do I get the WHOLE page to adopt the background colour, not just the part which has text on it? [12:46] hard to explain... but I'm seeing white at the bottom of my page [12:46] you fill the portlet slots, look at how it is done on the existing bug templates [12:47] sabdfl: body should be a solid color - do you have an example URL? [12:48] sabdfl: btw, I need something shorter than distro.name if the portlet is going to work - "redhat"/"Ubuntu" is too big, unless you want to go with icons or similar instead [12:50] I'm still not clear on the context in which these portlets should be shown - I assume the main bug page should have all this info in the body text area? [12:50] (where we have more space) [12:51] are we going to show these portlets in other parts of Malone, in Rosetta etc, is that the idea? [12:57] limi: what about using two lines per entry in the portlet? [12:57] limi: yes, if i understand you correctly [12:58] sabdfl: I tried two lines, but it takes up quite a lot of space, so it's not ideal if you want to conserve space [12:58] I'll give it another shot [12:58] limi: this is for an offline page [12:59] have done but that did not help [12:59] otherwise, am using the ploneCOlumns, plone and ploneCustom.css links as per the web site pages [12:59] but the bottom of the page (below all the text) is still white [12:59] limi: iirc, dashes are not allowed in css classes. Is that right? [12:59]