[12:53] Good night everybody [01:35] mdz: not drink six beers at once? BRILLIANT! === Mat1 [~matt@Bowe-08-214.rh.ncsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mat1 [~matt@Bowe-08-214.rh.ncsu.edu] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [01:47] how do I install debugging symbols for gnome [01:47] ? === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-057-058.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~sg@80.179.93.130.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@203-59-213-254.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:22] Any netinst isos for the rc? [03:37] Why the christ have we picked up Dick Morrel? [03:38] dude, be thankful. [03:38] yeah, ugh [03:38] try on the following names: dan jacobson, john hendrickson [03:39] He's anti-GPL and he's a cock [03:39] Dan Jacobson is mad but harmless in comparison [03:40] morrell is an idiot, yes [03:41] http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&threadm=slrn9nkfpp.g4a.mjg59%40vavatch.jesus.cam.ac.uk&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dmorrell%2Bgarrett%2Blinux%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26selm%3Dslrn9nkfpp.g4a.mjg59%2540vavatch.jesus.cam.ac.uk%26rnum%3D1 - that was it [03:41] Fucking URLs. Hrngh. === kylem [~kyle@CPE0030ab0b413b-CM023469906297.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:47] Maybe I should IRC less when drunk. [03:49] (fwiw, he took offence when I asked him to remain on-topic, and spent that 14 minutes ranting about who he was and why I couldn't afford to piss him off. i just asked him to remain on-topic a couple of times, and directed him towards #offtopic.) [04:01] Zindar: ah, erik :) [04:01] ww [04:03] daniels: To be honest, I'm inclined to think life would be easier without him === jdub calls the cops. [04:06] dickmorrel is not signal [04:06] BE SIGNAL [04:06] BE THE SIGNAL! === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:mjg59] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion on #ubuntu | Happy Ubuntu Artwork week! | 7 (count 'em) major bugs | please test http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/testing/warty-live-20041018-16.iso | BE THE SIGNAL [04:07] I feel this is important. === vorlon is a left turn signal. === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-68-92-227-78.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:11] http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/18/1097951587553.html [04:12] man, seven cars [04:29] elmo: can you please let me know how many packages build-depend on: xlibs, xlibs-dev, xlibs-static-pic [05:02] morning guys [05:03] daniels: why do we need to know? ;) [05:03] daniels: in one way or another even the kernel build-dep on them :P [05:09] heh [05:10] fabbione: well, when we get the xorg stuff in, i'd like to start busting up build-deps [05:10] i'd be happy for xlibs/xlibs-dev to not exist [05:11] daniels: i think we can create a meta package for it [05:11] that was my idea at least [05:11] for the beginning it would be acceptable [05:12] and give people a few weeks to do the transition [05:12] i want to kill Xfree86 in one shot [05:12] no double packages [05:13] yeah, dude, I already have a set of metapackages :) [05:14] no you have nothing :P [05:14] i bootstrapped xlibs (with full debian packaging) on to my laptop yesterday [05:14] ii libx11-6 6.2.1+cvs.200408040713-0ubuntu X Window System protocol client library [05:14] only took about two hours -- some stuff is still a little broken due to the fact /usr/lib/X11 is no longer a symlink [05:14] but yeah, it's all good otherwise [05:15] eheh [05:17] ok new X seems to be all good [05:18] daniels: but did you bootstrap each lib onm theirown? [05:18] or just xc/lib in one shot? [05:18] fabbione: each on their own [05:19] fabbione: started with x-common, then just ran check/build/install through all the packages [05:19] similar to the approach i used... [05:19] sounds like at least [05:20] anyway, end result is that everything's all good, except for xterm [05:20] it's probably the app-defaults link that's broken [05:21] daniels: i started drafting a plan for the 2 weeks [05:21] we have 2 fronts that we need to fight [05:21] one is the xresprobe/autoconfig stuff [05:21] 1. Who will order the pizza? [05:21] ME! [05:21] 2. Will Daniel be allowed to sleep inside the house? [05:21] one is beating upstream with a cluebat and kill it into the many deb packages [05:21] jdub: (hotel) [05:22] fabbione: dude, you missed the confcall on Friday [05:22] fabbione: despite almost sending me to sleep, I got useful stuff done on it [05:22] jdub: no my house isn't a house yet... it's a building site [05:22] fabbione: i got 'big big vendor merge' on the agenda for x11r7 [05:22] daniels: i don't care to talk with X.org "prime donne" [05:23] heh, most of them aren't prima donnas [05:23] daniels: (first women) [05:23] they just like to argue semantics for a long time [05:23] but that aside, it was very useful, and yeah, so if we start collecting all our patches, making notes on them and stuff, we can empty our debian/patches into upstream [05:24] pouring patches on the fire :) [05:24] anyway, I have to run out the door now [05:24] actually, ten minutes ago [05:24] but nevermind [05:24] i'll talk to you about this later [05:24] unless you really want to call me ;) [05:25] daniels: no no.. i will have to suffer your ugly face for 2 weeks here :P [05:25] i don't really need to talk to you too ;) [05:33] mdz, jdub: i am ready to upload X [06:01] and linux-restricted modules to fix the nvidia-glx error === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione waits for katie === AndyFitz [~andy@220.245.97.227] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220.245.97.227] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [07:08] oooook [07:08] X and linux-restricted modules are up === doko_ [doko@dsl-084-057-015-163.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cc [~byte@byte.fedora] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220.245.97.227] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:55] fabbione: heh! [07:55] daniels: ? [07:56] fabbione: your talking-to-me remark [07:56] fabbione: just had to go into the travel agent here and finalise my tickets [07:56] about to head back home [07:56] ahhh [07:56] eheh === rabidbt [~rabidbt@66.45.74.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@7-220.243.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220.245.97.227] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-5-45.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] Good morning everybody! So quiet today here... [10:25] Keybuk: I have a small packaging problem: hal 0.2.98 shipped a conffile, but hal 0.4 does not ship it any more; unfortunately dpkg does not delete the conffile on package upgrade, even if it is unmodified [10:25] Keybuk: is there a recommended way to remove it in the maintainer scripts? [10:26] dpkg should delete the conf file ? [10:26] unless it was never registered with dpkg [10:26] Why not, if it's unmodified? [10:26] no, the old deb ships it and it was in debian/conffiles [10:27] Since I don't want to change dpkg, is there a "best practice" how to handle this? [10:27] Keybuk: I thought about providing a md5sum list and delete the file in the preinst if one md5sum matches [10:27] Keybuk: similar to ucf [10:27] I mean that dpkg *should* delete the conffile, so why isn't it? [10:27] oh, I don't know [10:28] I tried that out yesterday, with a modified conffile and an unmodified [10:28] can you throw me both packages [10:28] you already have hal 0.2.98 [10:28] yeah, but I need to uninstall/reinstall a bit so it's good to have the .deb standing by without having to hunt for it :p [10:28] I send you a link to hal-0.4 when it's ready [10:29] okay, I put the old deb to the same place === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-041-179.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rburton [~ross@82-44-126-41.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] Keybuk: the stuff is at http://www.piware.de/hal/ === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:40] Keybuk: for upgrading to hal 0.4.0 you need libhal-storage0 deb [10:41] right [10:41] Keybuk: the conffile in question is /etc/hal/device.d/fstab-update.hal [10:41] Keybuk: the old hal installs it as example file, but I want to get rid of it (we have pmount) [10:41] ahh, lftp, how we love thee ... mget *.deb :p [10:42] so I install the single 0.2.98 deb, and upgrade by installing the others? [10:42] argh [10:42] forgot how loud my ibook was [10:42] jdub: bong! === jdub is doing a ppc install [10:42] Keybuk: yes, but you need only libhal-storage [10:42] Keybuk: not all the other debs [10:43] Keybuk: the problem is that above conffile is not shipped by hal 0.4.0 any more, so it should disappear [10:43] ok, well in 0.2.98 it's in the package and listed as a conffile [10:43] and I guess you did not modify it [10:44] just waiting for the ol' chroot to finish updating === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] Hi carlos [10:46] I finally managed to take a look at your application yesterday evening :-) [10:46] pitti: hi [10:47] pitti: I saw it :-), btw, the TODO was not a mark that says.. From here is not done it was just for that question [10:47] carlos: I know [10:47] carlos: but the other stuff was okay [10:47] ok [10:48] I have the other practical questions, I will try to send you all remaining things soon [10:48] pitti: thanks === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-5-45.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-225.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:10] Hi mvo_! [11:11] hi pitti [11:11] hi to all others [11:12] hello mvo_ [11:13] hi seb128 === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-050-108.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] seb128: is it me, or is gnome-terminal 2.8 a little late? :p [11:23] ah ah [11:23] just a bit late :) [11:23] and 2.8.1 just after it [11:23] amusing [11:24] pitti: (best Mal voice) well now, ain't that just an oddness [11:31] D000002: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/info/hal.postinst (dpkg: error processing hal (--install): [11:31] subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault), core dumped [11:31] Errors were encountered while processing: [11:31] hal [11:34] Keybuk: just back from lunch - argh, what's that? [11:34] oh, just another wonderful example of dpkg's amazing bug-free-ness [11:35] Keybuk: odd, it works fine here; but this can hardly be a bug in the hal deb, can't it? [11:35] pitti: try installing with: dpkg -D7777 -i ... :) === pitti tries that and still looks at a loooooong scrolling [11:36] D000020: deferred_configure `/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf' (= `/etc/dbus-1/system.d/hal.conf') useredited=-1 distedited=-1 what=2 [11:36] D000002: fork/exec /var/lib/dpkg/info/hal.postinst ( ) [11:36] * Restarting system message bus... [11:36] * Stopping Hardware abstraction layer... [ ok ] [11:36] * Starting Hardware abstraction layer... [11:37] works for me [11:37] hmm === rburton [~ross@82-44-126-41.cable.ubr03.croy.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:38] hi rburton [11:38] hi mvo_ [11:38] so i hear xfs in recent 2.6 kernels is broken [11:39] weird [11:39] rburton: works ok for me [11:39] i'll probably ubuntufy my home desktop this week [11:39] see if it passes the GirlFriend test [11:40] rburton: you mean the new images? [11:40] rburton: failed miserably for me [11:41] i mean i heard reports of data corruption [11:41] rburton: my gf: "Ugh, what's that?" and after seeing the splash "hey, this gets worse..." [11:41] ah [11:41] oh i see [11:41] i told her about the images, she said she so [11:41] doh [11:41] is your gf able to do data corruption? [11:41] well, now you mention that [11:41] things do just break around her [11:42] ah, so she is the ideal beta tester? [11:43] I've got such a friend as well. Up to now he managed to break every Linux distro I gave him; he is totally frustrated by "this linux shit" [11:45] pitti: I suspect this is just another example of dpkg going strange when debug is on [11:45] lots of little memory leaks, and double-frees, and stuff [11:45] Keybuk: can you at least reproduce the problem without debugging? [11:46] Keybuk: i. e. the conffile is still present? [11:46] yup, got an update log now === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] rburton: your GF doesn't like it? what does vicky think? [11:59] jdub: gf/wife/whatever ;) [11:59] no way dude, i heard that slip! === rburton has been caught out [12:00] must... destory... evidence === rburton sends Kill-O-Zap missiles to sydney === lifeless puts out the mosquito net [12:05] rburton: don't forget to send them to the host which stores the irc logs :-) [12:08] D000200: oldconffsetflags `/etc/hal/device.d/fstab-update.hal' namenode 0x827d97c flags 4 [12:08] bleh, well it knows it's only in the old package and now in the new === azeem_ [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:20] mdz: around? [12:21] sabdfl: 'morning [12:21] hey daniels [12:21] rburton: if you don't have it already, you must get dj platurn -- 'so this is de la heaven'. mix cd if just de la songs and samples. sensational. [12:22] sabdfl: so, community council is in ... three and a half hours, yeah? [12:22] sabdfl: (missed one meeting because someone said UTC when they said Europe/London) [12:22] community council is tuesdays, 1600 UTC [12:23] well, the artwork meeting [12:23] this next one is a general community meeting, in 90 minutes [12:23] though this tuesday is tech-board [12:23] yes [12:23] anybody have an ipw2100 handy for testing? [12:23] can anyone sit in on the meetings? [12:24] daniels: oh, cool [12:24] reminds me, must beat up Jeff to make an .ics of HoaryReleaseSchedule when it's final [12:24] rburton: sure. [12:24] sabdfl: ah right [12:24] ... ninety minutes? fair cop [12:25] daniels: debian/patches/004_* [12:25] daniels: how much do we need out of it? [12:26] fabbione: last I checked, all of it [12:26] - MANDEFS = AppLoadDefs FileManDefs LibManDefs MiscManDefs DriverManDefs ProjectManDefs $(XORGMANDEFS) $(VENDORMANDEFS) [12:26] + MANDEFS = AppLoadDefs ManDefs SyscallManDefs LibManDefs DriverManDefs FileManDefs GameManDefs MiscManDefs AdmManDefs ProjectManDefs $(XOR [12:26] GMANDEFS) $(VENDORMANDEFS) [12:26] this is the only line that doesn't really "merge" [12:26] should i just pristine copy it from xfree86? [12:27] what's -, what's +? [12:28] daniels: that's what it is in 004_ [12:28] xorg has a different default MANDEFS [12:28] xfree86, or xorg? [12:28] ah ok [12:29] 3 way diff :-) [12:33] daniels: i am going to grab some food [12:39] ok [12:39] when you get back, let me know what we're starting with in xorg and where we need to go [12:43] daniels: acpi-support doesn't do suspend/resume, so... [12:44] oh, and acpi-support-x40 needs to rmmod ipw2?00 before suspend [12:45] thom: oh, right. point. [12:45] thom: and, uhm, that bong was apparently fixed in 2.6.8 [12:45] (centrino wireless) === rabidbt [~rabidbt@66.45.74.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-3-44.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] daniels: well, i have to have it with the 2.6.8.1-3-15 kernel [12:48] otherwise i need to powercycle my machine everytime it comes out of suspend [12:49] and 1940 is pbbuttonsd foo [12:49] not acpi-support [12:52] hello thom [12:53] heyhey seb [12:55] I am writing a kernel-howto for the wiki, is grub default or should i mention lilo as well? [12:56] grub default [12:56] thom, ok [12:57] thom: bongtastic. you should've got an nm. === rabidbt [~rabidbt@66.45.74.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === calc [~ccheney@cdm-208-180-235-130.cnro.cox-internet.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] pitti: pen drive is still failing to automount :-/ [01:02] sabdfl: but it worked for the version you downloaded manually? odd, this is the very version I uploaded recently [01:02] strange, but true [01:03] hoary problem :-) [01:03] sabdfl: does it work sometimes and sometimes not? === sabdfl tests again [01:04] not yet [01:04] usb 4-4: new high speed USB device using address 4 [01:04] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [01:04] Vendor: Model: Pen Drive 2.0 Rev: 1.13 [01:04] Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 [01:04] SCSI device sda: 253952 512-byte hdwr sectors (130 MB) [01:04] sda: Write Protect is off [01:04] sda: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [01:04] sda: assuming drive cache: write through [01:04] /dev/scsi/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 [01:04] Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 [01:04] USB Mass Storage device found at 4 [01:04] but it doesn't show up under /media/ [01:04] sabdfl: looks good [01:05] sabdfl: can you please do 'lshal > lshal.txt' and send me the result? [01:05] pitti: martin.pitt@can...? [01:06] sabdfl: yes [01:06] on its way [01:06] let me know if it didn't work i was experimenting with piping straight to mutt [01:08] sabdfl: got it [01:08] sabdfl: hmm, /dev/sda* is not contained in the lshal [01:08] great, thanks [01:08] why not? [01:08] sabdfl: don't know, that's the bug, I suppose [01:09] where could i look or check? [01:09] sabdfl: if you have a minute? [01:09] sure [01:09] please do sudo killall hald [01:09] sabdfl: you can also pass -a to attach stuff [01:09] sabdfl: then remove the pendrive [01:09] sabdfl: e.g. mutt -s foo -a ~/tmp/bar baz@quux.org [01:10] sabdfl: sudo hald --verbose=yes --daemon=no --drop-privileges [01:10] daniels: yes, i was trying to bypass the file and pipe it straight to mutt, thusly: [01:10] sabdfl: if the log flood stops, press enter a few times (to generate some empty lines) [01:10] lshal | mutt -s "foo bar" email@sfsdf.com [01:10] sabdfl: ah, cool :) [01:11] sabdfl: then plug in the beast and watch what happens === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] sabdfl: I'd be interested in the cut& paste of the debug stuff after the plugin [01:11] ALL of it? [01:11] and it just popped up. [01:12] sabdfl: what, the device got mounted? [01:13] mounted and the window popped up correctly [01:13] sabdfl: re ALL: only the stuff after plugging in the device (that's the reason for the empty lines) [01:13] sabdfl: so, a heisenbug? [01:13] maybe i hadn't rebooted since the update? [01:13] sabdfl: might be [01:13] sabdfl: since when your session runs? [01:13] let me reboot now and see if it's really working properly [01:13] how do i tell? [01:14] uptime shows the time since last reboot [01:14] last|head shows the recent logins === sivang back === azeem_ is now known as azeem [01:37] sabdfl : the data center has PowerEdge machines? [01:37] ROCK [01:37] sivang: yeah [01:37] sivang: i think we have a bit of everything in there now [01:37] i have working NetworkManager foo [01:37] thom: cool, what was the trick? [01:38] apart from the fact they try to use the ESSID as a key and haven't dealt with the fact that essids can have spaces in [01:38] sabdfl: writing most of the debian backend over the weekend :-) [01:39] most excellent [01:39] thom : what else is there? :) Is it PowerEdge 2800 (glancing on it ad dell's ) [01:39] which was entertaining since i was at my parents and they don't have wireless [01:39] thom: awesome! nice one [01:39] sivang: poweredge, hp dl380s, ibm x345 and bigger [01:39] and g5 xserves [01:40] thom : wow [01:40] yeah [01:40] and some hp itaniums at some point, i guess [01:40] does level3 know about the itaniums? [01:40] thom : these are also Xeon based? or are they RISCiy ? :) [01:41] they'll need to double their air conditioning capacity [01:41] all of them are buildds ? I reckon the g5 is for building PPC stuff right? [01:41] daniels: compared to the xserves they're probably trivial [01:42] thom: really? [01:42] sivang: the three g5s, 3 dual opterons, and 6 dual xeons are buildds [01:42] three of the itaniums will be too [01:42] thom: i was under the impression they were space heaters, and the desktop g5s i've seen have run quite cool [01:42] daniels: the xserves don't have fan/thermal support yet [01:42] they run at full whack all the time [01:43] thom: oh dear. [01:43] yeah [01:43] does this explain your need to evacuate the house during testing? [01:43] yes === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:43] good god. [01:44] hm, I thought thermal support did exist now [01:44] what's used for web serving and archive ? [01:44] Kamion: maybe, but it's certainly not on the buildds yet [01:44] the PEs are 2650's [01:45] hey elmo [01:45] elmo: 'morning [01:46] hey thom, daniels === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.err.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] daniels: Itanium's really aren't that bad [01:49] thom : you were fixing the network-admin crash stuff? [01:50] sivang: no [01:50] sivang: does it _still_ crash? [01:50] NetworkManager [01:50] sivang: this shouldn't happen any more with the latest gnome-system-tools [01:50] hm, I think we need some g5 xserves at trinity [01:50] sivang: http://people.redhat.com/dcbw/NetworkManager/index.html [01:50] the server room (which has quite a few machines) was in a broom closet. during summer, you'd just pick which services were needed (no labs at lincoln square, so there goes its nfs and pxe servers ...) [01:51] pitti : lemme check that now [01:51] daniels: the opterons doesn't run too hot either. [01:51] yeah [01:53] pitti : shoot me up the bug# [01:54] thom : thanks. So that's the name for the little thingy on the panel.. [01:54] that and the bitching huge daemon underneath it, too [01:54] sivang: you already helped me to reproduce it, don't remember any more? [01:54] haha [01:54] sivang: #2177 [01:55] pitti : ah no :) === sivang needs a shorterm memory fix [01:55] sivang: at that price, I'll take two [01:55] sivang: boot memtest-human [01:55] I'm afraid it's gonna heat up too much :) [01:56] with memtest [01:56] well, you can't do anything for a few hours :-) [01:57] thom : how do I add it to my panel? I have to apt-get install network-manager first? [01:58] i'll need to set up the apt repo first [01:58] and it's still very flaky right now [01:58] pitti : yes, I won't be able to..unless memtest be rewritten to support time sharing :) [01:59] thom : well, just tell me where to get the .deb file, and no, I don't mind teashing my system in favor of testing some bleeding edge. (I know I might bleed heh) [02:00] sivang: when i have it working right, i will [02:01] thom : thanks. [02:02] pitti : when I run network-admin from console, and I have already enabled my root account - trying to delete an interface just make it reappear the next time I fire up network-admin [02:02] sivang: can you please file a bug? [02:06] moo [02:06] lamont: bark === pitti enjoys making and listening to animal noises :-) [02:09] heh [02:10] lamont: Good morning! === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:22] hrm.. so how many times to we repeat '7' when counting the bugs, I wonder.... [02:22] Latest ibm-acpi lets you make LEDs flash [02:23] the atheros does the LED stuff on its own [02:23] actually, all my LEDs work just fine with the stock kernel [02:24] daniels: you can soft-control it if you like [02:24] and it has a flash-on-traffic mode as well [02:24] daniels: It seems like the wireless LED isn't under software control [02:24] You need to wave lines on the mini-PCI slot [02:25] But I can make my power light flash [02:25] "hardware control" and "atheros" being somewhat a contradiction in terms === T-Bone [~varenet@T-Bone.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:28] mjg59: oooer [02:28] Keybuk: heh [02:29] Keybuk: yeah, mine's in flash-on-traffic as per default [02:29] that just irritated me on the HP, the LED's a bright blue one and it really catches your eye :p [02:30] there's a solution to that ... [02:32] tap-tap-tap*OOH TRAFFIC*tap-tap*OOH TRAFFIC* etc. [02:32] haha [02:32] Keybuk: masking tape [02:33] Keybuk: or better yet, someone here has a blue led fetish and will buy it from you if you can get it out [02:33] my green LED is very unintrusive === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:36] HaveLib64 Yes or No for x86_64 ? [02:37] Mithrandir: ^^ [02:37] no [02:37] because there is on /lib64 [02:37] (iirc) [02:37] can you see comments on debian/patches/600_amd64_support.diff [02:37]