[12:00] is there a way to install firefox PR the proper way instead all in one folder? === SporcusPorcus thinks he meant guy [12:00] then again [12:00] you never know [12:00] nop i ment gay :P [12:00] damn subconcience === ToTo [~ToTo@82.52.70.58] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] damn spelling === ygnome__ is now known as ygnome [12:01] ygnome - why not gnome ? [12:02] cause it sucks he eh [12:02] its not [12:02] why does gnome suck? [12:02] it doesn't [12:02] because a gnome stole my cupcakes [12:02] i liked fluxbox but can`t install hebrew there so [12:02] i like gnome... [12:03] stop it hacker [12:03] lol jk [12:03] ;p [12:03] please [12:03] ygnome: it's a question [12:04] gnome is the answer... [12:04] SporcusPorcus: at "http://gaim.sourceforge.net/documentation.php", i see only faq, keyboard shortcuts, status icons, Internationalization Statistics , Getting a backtrace, Protocols, API docs, perl scripting howto. i don't see any of these related to seeing messages addressed to me alone here [12:04] SporcusPorcus: am i missing something here? [12:04] skar: ask google [12:05] SporcusPorcus: ok [12:06] how can i go about getting my PCMCIA Orinoco gold b card working? [12:07] i have an internal G card but it's broadcom and isn't supported under 64bit yet [12:07] how i check my gtk version [12:07] ? === ToTo [~ToTo@82.52.70.58] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] you know all these questions [12:07] could be answered by reading [12:07] use google [12:08] lrn, dpkg -l | grep libgtk [12:08] SporcusPorcus: guess google got it, well this line should be highlighted skar [12:08] seems like 2.4.10 [12:08] that's what i have too [12:09] skar: use a real irc client like irssi or god forbid xchat [12:09] Am i the only who experienced trouble with recieving mails in Evolution? [12:09] or chatzilla [12:09] i said real irc [12:09] or that funny MSchat thign with faces [12:09] ubuntu uses xfree86? [12:09] *hides* [12:09] xchat does even do graphical smileys :-P [12:09] xchat will do for me till the gnome folk release the gnome irc client [12:10] SporcusPorcus: gr8, it notifies correctly now, thanx very much, now one less app for irc and im [12:10] *doesnt [12:10] eruin: yes [12:10] eruin: yes, at least warty does [12:10] for the moment [12:10] tvon: whens the switch to xorg planned? === joolz [~joolz@kiar.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu === vegai [vegai@as2-1.ranta-alpi.verkkoasunto.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] I think xorg is slated for hoary [12:10] SporcusPorcus: gaim's got a separate plug in for notifying me, the OSS goodness :) [12:10] you have an idea of when it'll start showing up in unstable trees? [12:10] maybe by then Composite will be useful :) === vegai [vegai@as2-1.ranta-alpi.verkkoasunto.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] eruin: no idea, I'm not even sure when real Hoary hacking will commence [12:11] # cat /etc/debian_version [12:11] testing/unstable [12:11] shouldnt that say the ubuntu release name? :( [12:11] though Hoary is going to rock. I think inotify is going to get in, along iwth NetworkManager and some other goodies [12:11] has anyone solved the problem of yucky fonts with large TFT monitors? [12:11] vegai, yucky? [12:11] thursday: no, unfortunately some tools rely on it. we'll fix them in the future, but for now, it's easiest to leave it there [12:11] I've read font-deuglification HOWTO (and seems that ubuntu implements its fixes) [12:11] thursday: well the file *is* called debian_version and not ubuntu_version :) [12:11] thursday: no, that's in /etc/lsb-release === letheus [~s7s@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === stvn has learned an important lesson today *never* install to 2.6.8-3 kernels if one is from debian and the other from ubuntu, it confuses the computer [12:12] thursday: fonts are uglier than in a competing OS [12:12] two [12:12] whoa i didnt know about lsb-release === skar is now known as skar_away [12:12] thursday: umm, well, I thought ubuntu was supposed to be compatible with debian repos, thus that needed. also implies that xorg won't be in ubuntu until sarge is stable and xorg is starting to flow inside debian unstable? [12:12] there is no 2.6.8-3 in Ubuntu [12:12] vegain, define ugly? [12:12] thursday: oh, that's a tough one :/ [12:12] mdz: sorry, i meant 2.6.8.1-3 ;) [12:12] thursday: dubbelplus unbautiful [12:12] thursday: and the corresponding lsb_release tool to parse it [12:12] it's subjective, of course [12:13] stvn: likewise, Debian has no 2.6.8.1-3 :-) === SporcusPorcus [~Romanus@pool-151-198-118-56.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:13] debian decided to call them 2.6.8, and just apply the .1 patch [12:13] vegai, if your problem is just that you want nicer foonts like from microsoft you can just copy those fonts to ~/.fonts [12:13] thursday: I installed msttcorefonts and I tried those too === RogueDopple [~Rogue@pool-151-198-118-56.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === skar_away [~sk@61.247.241.205] has left #ubuntu [] [12:13] vegai, and they look bad? [12:13] they are bit better [12:14] I wish I could put my finger on the problem [12:14] i use microsoft fonts on my system and they look identical to the ones on my winxp system [12:14] the actual xp fonts are better than the ones in msttcorefonts [12:14] mdz: heh, well ok never install two 2.6.8 kernels, grub/ubuntu got confused and used the wrong modules giving a horrid error and it refuses to mount /var which is very annoying/not workable [12:14] but then again i set fonts to monochrome [12:14] i have trouble playing wav's in rhythmbox... doesn't work. is that a (c) issue or is my pc broken? === xyz359 [~xyz359@241643hfc46.tampabay.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] yeah, I guess I could try that [12:14] maybe you dont like the antialiasing? [12:14] maybe. [12:14] or maybe the DPI setting is wrong [12:15] yeah i don't like the aa so much either... i would sudgest you try the monochrome setting [12:15] i've never touched the dpi setting [12:15] I would've imagined that a TFT screen looks better with subpixel smoothing [12:15] (oh my, monochrome is disgusting :)) [12:16] monochrome? what are you guys on? mainframe? as/400? :) === phoen1x [~rob@adsl-213-249-237-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] i use Lucida Sans Unicode at size 8 on monochrome and it's easy on the eyes [12:16] they mean the Gnome font rendering setting "Monochrome" [12:16] which means "without anti-alias" [12:16] oh.. ok [12:16] hi all just installed ubuntu, my first ever distro :-) [12:16] congrats phoen1x ! [12:17] phoen1x: join the club :) [12:17] does anybody know how to set it so when you boot up num lock is turned on [12:17] thanks :) now if only i can figure why there is no sound heh [12:17] sound from what? [12:17] GotD0t: from his speakers? maybe [12:17] anyone know how to turn off pc speaker? === m00se [~moose@chd171.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] i mean... from what app? [12:18] vegai, do you have windows xp? i would suggest you install the fonts from an xp system rather than the fonts on source forge [12:18] well, the soundcard seems to have been detected, i know the speakers work, but no sound from audio cd or ogg file [12:18] from xmms or the bundled player [12:18] no, 2k [12:18] are you using a PCI sound card? [12:18] i have the opposite. can anyone confirm if rhythmbox will or won't play wav's? plz? [12:18] yes GotD0t - pci [12:18] because when i installed all the apps were pointing to the one on my mobo [12:18] phoen1x: checked if the volume was up, and not muted? (two different things) [12:18] and not my audigy [12:19] is your volume on? check with alsamixer [12:19] the one on the mobo works... just doesnt have speakers attached so alas no sound [12:19] and sometimes alsa gives weird names for channels [12:19] not an audigy - ancient standard thing [12:19] bern [12:19] hi [12:19] does your mobo have built in sound? [12:19] anyone reported problems with setting up grub during install? === michel_v` [~tofu@menilmontant-2-81-57-190-84.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] hi again [12:19] no built in sound on mobo [12:20] hmm [12:20] the Font-deuglification HOWTO recommends to set the DPI to 100. I wonder if that's a good idea? [12:20] what's the most recent version of kernel-headers? [12:20] anyone managed to get a mobilty radeon 9600 working under ubuntu ? [12:20] m00se: yes, mainly about not playing nice with other OSs [12:20] define working [12:20] at the moment I can't find kernel-headers-2.6.8.1-3-386 [12:20] vegai, does it say where to make that setting change? [12:20] stvn - how does one check if muted? the vol is on max [12:20] would it do if I install kernel headers for a previous kernel version? [12:20] ok, i'll try again. I can play wav files with aplay, but somehow rhythmbox won't. Am i missing some plugin? What do i do wrong??? [12:20] thursday: when starting X [12:20] bern: define working... [12:20] phoen1x: did you check with alsamixer, it has MM on top of the bars if muted [12:21] GotD0t: 3d rendering :/ [12:21] I wonder if I could tell gdm to do that [12:21] michel_v`: try searching for linux-headers instead [12:21] stvn, for me it froze at 50% and i had to kill grub-install to continue [12:21] michel_v`: linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3 [12:21] GotD0t: well reasnable 3d rendering, i have screensavers that are 3d that can only go 4.5fps :P [12:21] ok [12:21] m00se: did you check bugzilla? [12:21] Eno_: actually I'm not the one searching. :) modules-assistant is [12:21] stvn: OK how do i find alsamixer? :) [12:22] GotD0t: i don't plan on playing games on my laptop but i would be nice to get it functional [12:22] bern: well you're going to need to install the accelerated drivers... i assume you havent changed the drivers? [12:22] phoen1x: open up a terminal window and type alsamixer [12:22] glxgears is fun with HW-rendering and a TFT with 25ms refresh :D [12:22] you can hardly see the gears [12:22] ah, thanks :0 brb :) [12:22] stvn, not yet, i'm configuring my desktop ATM [12:22] michel_v`: what is it? [12:22] GotD0t: nope not a bit [12:22] hmmm, i'm not alone http://mail.gnome.org/archives/rhythmbox-devel/2004-August/msg00053.html [12:23] bern: you said mobility 9600? [12:23] aha! several of the lines have MM on the top [12:23] GotD0t: yeah [12:23] Eno_: it's an app that's supposed to handle pretty much all module installation related work [12:23] phoen1x: the important ones are Master and PCM [12:23] Eno_: as in you type modules-assistant ndiswrapper and it will apt-get install it, dpkg blahblah etc === ogra [~ogra@p508EB5DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] Eno_: and in the end you get the module installed and ready to modprobe [12:24] so, should i install xmms? [12:24] joolz: nope, install beep-media-player [12:24] michel_v`: ah, i see... is it not in the ubuntu repository or something? i can't find it [12:24] hi all [12:24] bern: one second [12:24] stvn: hmmm master and pcm both up high - master M 3d contr line and mic are all MM [12:24] by the way, I'm unfamiliar with debian-based systems, should I install linux-686 or linux-image-686? [12:25] phoen1x: that's ok [12:25] Eno_: it's not there. try whiprush's blog, I think he's the one who blogged about it [12:25] bern: this should have what oyu need http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?action=highlight&value=ATI [12:25] michel_v`: familiarity probably wouldn't help you there; you probably want linux-686, which depends on both linux-image-686 and the matching linux-restricted-modules-* package [12:25] michel_v: linux-686 is fine, keeps you uptodate ;-) [12:25] ok [12:25] phoen1x: does lsmod | grep snd give you anything? [12:25] Kamion: thanks for the clarification [12:25] michel_v`: (exception would be if you object to binary-only firmware) [12:26] stvn: very funny. just installed it and still rhythmbox won't play wav's [12:26] isn't there a way to say I don't need nvidia stuff? [12:26] stvn, my bug is already reported #1301 [12:26] GotD0t: thanks [12:27] joolz: check if beep-media-player can play them [12:27] michel_v: ask nvidia to provide specs, so there'll be a linux driver [12:27] stvn: ok, i'll try [12:27] stvn: am i looking for anything specific ? [12:27] ah, I got it. One can define the physical size of the monitor in XF86Config, which enables X to calculate the DPI right [12:27] let's see if that helps [12:27] ogra: what I mean is is there a way to make linux-restricted-modules not depend on nvidia stuff, since I don't have any nvidia hardware on this laptop [12:27] joolz: Read the first page of the Rhythmbox manual (Help->Contents->Section 1). [12:28] phoen1x: it should list the modules related to your soundcard, the first one on the list is enough, if you can paste it here [12:28] stvn: yes it can. and so can aplay (as it could before) [12:28] but what could be wrong with rhytmbox? [12:28] here you go -> snd_ens1371 23012 3 [12:28] ok, started apt getting linux-686 -- if I'm lucky it'll be installed in an hour [12:28] (slooooooooooow hdd) [12:29] phoen1x: so it's a soundblaster, right? [12:29] stvn: yes [12:29] joolz: the thing that could be wrong would be a gstreamer plugin [12:29] phoen1x: stupid question, but did you check if the speakers are connected properly ;) [12:29] michel_v`: tx, i'll check [12:30] stvn: hehe 1st thing i thought of :) have tried in all of the sockets etc [12:30] anyone know what the command for taking a screenshot in gnome 2.8 is? === xyz359 [~xyz359@241643hfc46.tampabay.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] eruin: gnome-panel-screenshot [12:30] joolz: Maybe the manual is out of date, but it only says MP3, FLAC, and OGG. Nothing about .wav. [12:30] eruin: computer -> take screenshot [12:30] eruin: gnome-panel-screenshot --window, if you want to shoot only the active app [12:31] eruin: or your print screen key, it should already be handled by gnome :) [12:31] eruin: and alt or shift + printscreen for the active winddow [12:31] michel_v: cheers! :D === guptan [~Raj@we12647.emirates.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] michel_v: this nvidia dependency is the price for widespread hardware support in ubuntu....we'll have to live with both :) [12:32] michel_v: trying to use the tool in xfce too === m00se [~moose@chd171.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:32] phoen1x: hm [12:32] stvn: yup thats what i thought ;) [12:32] michel_v`, gnome-panel-screenshot [12:32] I don`t have irclib [12:32] i want to add it [12:32] any one ? [12:32] is there any difference in marillat totem-xine and totem-xine from the universe repository? === Dekkard [~doofus@adsl-68-73-5-226.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] phoen1x: what app do you use to play the songs? === keknehv [~keknehv@c-67-172-140-150.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] michel_v`: nope, just installed all of gsteamer and it won't work [12:34] Hi all [12:34] I'm having problems with my X server [12:34] drag & drop a wav file on rhythmbox just refuses to drop :-\ [12:34] stvn: i have tried xmms and the standard Music Player in gnome (And CD Player) [12:34] I start booting up ubuntu, and it gets to "loading Gnome something manager" [12:34] And then I get a black screen [12:35] phoen1x: does xmms play the song, eg do you see it playing? [12:35] keknehv: probably a bad graphic card driver [12:35] stvn: yes everything seems fine and dandy, except the silence :) [12:35] keknehv: which graphic card is it? === Dekkard [~rightone@adsl-68-73-5-226.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] stvn: all of the apps appear to function great, just no sound [12:36] brb, rebooting to linux-686 :) === Blues-Man good blues night [12:36] phoen1x: hm, the card is recognised, the drivers loaded, the app can contact the sound server and play, the most obvious problem is hardware, either the card is broken, or the connection is wrong, or the speakers are not turned [12:36] phoen1x: thinking of other problems though [12:36] I don`t have irclib [12:36] i want to add it [12:36] any one ? [12:37] phoen1x: you did a clean ubuntu install, right? [12:37] stvn: thanks for your thoughts, am thinking it may well be the card, havent used it for eons [12:37] stvn: yup clean install [12:38] lrn: what is irclib? try to search a debian package [12:38] phoen1x: try if the card works on other OSs/distros or try another card [12:38] stvn: good plan - will slap it in my WinXP (shudder) box asap and try it out === doko [doko@dsl-084-057-039-032.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === ReporterX [~ReporterX@10001085998.0000004196.acesso.oni.pt] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] :) === eclipsex [~eclipsex@dranco.resnet.mtu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] hello all! [12:39] must say, loving the linux experience so far, even with the sharp learnign curve [12:39] what do i need to mount a ntfs partition ? [12:39] phoen1x: the hardest part is getting it installed, you succeeded there, everything else is much simpler [12:40] stvn: was completely painless tbh [12:40] phoen1x: I put it on the computers of my housemates, and other than some minor glitches and slightly weird experience, they found it quite ok, saved them a lot of hassle with virusses etc [12:40] or... how do i mount a ntfs partition ? [12:41] ReporterX: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hd? /mnt/ [12:41] stvn: aye - thinking of dual booting my main PC [12:41] Sorry michel... I was away for a sec... it's a pci NvidiaMX, but when I attempt to install that driver in recovery mode, it messes up === [Phaedrus] [Phaedrus@61.1.214.248] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] ReporterX: but writing to a ntfs partition is not very stable/secure [12:42] limaunion: thanks... [12:42] So you should have a smallish fat32 partition, write? [12:42] phoen1x: be careful, you might end up like me, with the win XP partition removed because I needed more space ;) === trevor_ [~trevor@ppp-66-139-36-44.dialup.tulsok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] stvn: good step ;) [12:43] stvn: hehe if i can live without the games I have on XP, I will happily do so :) [12:43] ReporterX: check your 'man mount' page for further details... [12:43] <[Phaedrus] > what better way to make a total transition to the Linux world stvn :) [12:43] stvn: i just want to read some deb packages.... [12:43] ogra: actually I replaced winXP by ubuntu, now I need to remove the debian instalation which is there as well ;) [12:43] But how can you live without quake3? :P [12:43] ReporterX: oh ok, no worries === zenwhen [1001@host-216-78-81-80.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] keknehv, by using half-life 2 or doom3 :) [12:43] how can i live without EQ2 beta you mean :p [12:44] those run on linux? [12:44] HOW? [12:44] this my first debian based distribution... i used to rpm based distributions... [12:44] or better yet... enemy-territory! but thats built on quake 3 [12:44] keknehv: doom3 runs natively [12:44] aaaah. [12:44] Cool [12:44] keknehv, id jsut released a linux port [12:44] <[Phaedrus] > I am more familiar with gentoo. Is there anyone here who has switched over from gentoo? [12:44] unfortunately, my video card is crap :P [12:44] [Phaedrus] , i still use gentoo on my server [12:44] cardador: impressive - will have to take a look at that [12:44] ubuntu on my laptop === guptan [~Raj@we12647.emirates.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] <[Phaedrus] > thursday, would you say ubuntu is a better option over gentoo? [12:45] it depends for what [12:45] i think ubuntu is better for the desktop [12:45] So my X server won't start... but the livecd runs a-ok [12:45] WHAT'S WRONG? [12:45] <[Phaedrus] > let's say desktop, development and better hardware support would be a starter's list [12:45] but there is no way i would replace my server os with ubuntu [12:45] thursday: why ? [12:45] thursday: why is that? [12:46] i need to setup my usb wireless device (with atmel chipset).... i have the deb package with the firmware... can some give some tips how to install my wireless devices ? [12:46] ubuntu releases to often [12:46] [Phaedrus] , if you don't want to spend enormous amounts of time configuring and building software yes i would say ubuntu is the better choice [12:46] <[Phaedrus] > thanks thursday. I'll give it a try [12:46] scotth: warty'll be supported for 18 months, though, so you don't have to be on the 6-month upgrade treadmill [12:46] hello [12:46] :) [12:46] ogra, jordi... because i love use flags for building software on a server [12:46] atleast thats why we are going to ubuntu on the desktop and keeping debian on our servers... debian will tend to be more stable while ubuntu has the newer software [12:47] Kamion, its not ubuntu's fault... its more of a political issue... administration will be constantly pushing us to the newest version [12:47] woody is my 2nd choice for server os [12:47] scotth: yeah, fair enough [12:48] can't get over how well this runs on a p2 500 (half gig ram helps im sure) [12:48] thursday: i wouldn't even allow a gcc on my servers, only if it's really needed ;) [12:48] I think both debian and ubuntu can coexist because of differing focus... also the fact that we have sparc servers and ubuntu doesn't support sparc === rancoras [~Rancoras@adsl-69-149-37-54.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] scotth: certainly what I'm hoping from the point of view of "it'd be really bad if Ubuntu killed Debian" [12:48] phoen1x: that helps, I run it on a 400MHz with 400MB ram and on a 1GHz with 64MB ram, the latter is so much slower [12:49] scotth: someone wanted to start a port some weeks ago on the mailing list [12:49] Kamion, I think ubuntu will make debian healthier [12:49] I'm running ubuntu on a 700MHz with 192MB ram... it's so-so (I guess) === dc|off [~sidnei@adsl-216-61-158-25.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] stvn: glad i have the extra then - sorely tempted to put it on the maoin machine - athlonxp 1.8 with a gig of ram, should fly [12:49] ogra, thats cool maybe Ill look at the archives [12:49] maoin=main [12:50] how can I edit my x-free86 to load an nvidia driver, such as nv? [12:50] x-free86 config, that is === michel_v` [~tofu@menilmontant-2-81-57-190-84.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] hello again [12:50] scotth: dunno if it was -users or -devel, look at both [12:50] which package should I install for gcc? [12:50] keknehv: sudo gedit /etc/X11/XF86config-4 [12:50] in order to build kernel modules [12:50] gcc-3.2? [12:50] michel_v: buiold-essential [12:50] In command line? [12:50] keknehv: sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 [12:50] keknehv: yes [12:50] ookay [12:50] michel_v: oops, build [12:51] thanks, I'll go try that... === letheus [~s7s@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] wheee, thanks === ToTo is now known as ToTo-Away [12:52] scotth: again, what I'm hoping :-) [12:53] Is Pine available for Ubuntu? [12:54] letheus, doesn't look like it [12:54] yup, I don't see it either [12:54] letheus: did you say mutt ? *g* [12:54] is there a script/applet that can alert me when a certain computer goes offline/online? [12:55] ogra, ? [12:55] letheus: "mutt" is another mail client. [12:55] letheus: No luck with Evolution? [12:56] This is interesting... my X86 config file is EMPTY! === JohnRobert [~john@pcp03060781pcs.poltch01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === phil__ [~phil@host81-152-65-98.range81-152.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] Is there some command I should run to auto-configure it? [12:56] letheus: some people say they're the same [12:56] WW, Well...i can send mails, but not receive. [12:57] stvn, you can add a bash script on all your comps to report when it is shutting down. I don't know if that is what you mean ? [12:57] ogra, ok [12:57] keknehv: thats strange [12:57] Yah [12:57] And I went to exactly that file (I think) [12:57] keknehv: what did you write? [12:57] how do I make nautilus to remember window size of nautilus browser? [12:57] NOTHING [12:57] keknehv: i mean, for editing === Bliksem [~user@host217-43-93-30.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] keknehv: sudo edit /etc/bla bla === JohnRobert [~john@pcp03060781pcs.poltch01.tn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [12:58] s/edit/gedit [12:58] LinuxJones: hm, that's an idea, was more thinking along the lines of a script that alerts me when a computer comes online/goes offline, but I can let them tell me as well [12:58] I ran the install (hooked up to internet), rebooted (still hooked up), it asked me if I wanted to install extra packages, I did... [12:58] letheus: You can try different mail clients (many people really like Mozilla Thunderbird), but if it is a configuration problem, you might end up with the same problem with all of them. [12:58] anyone know what this is about "MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected" it appears during boot, but ubunut carries on anyway, so im not worried, just wondering [12:58] It tried to boot, said "GNOME display manager not running" and went to a black screen [12:58] I used sudo nano, vi, emacs, you name it [12:59] stvn, is this a server running a particular service or just a reandom desktop machine ? [12:59] err random [12:59] LinuxJones: random desktop machines === phoen1x [~rob@adsl-213-249-237-130.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] I've a little problem with my sound. I only have sound as root, but my username is in the audio group. does anyone know where the problem could be? [12:59] Scratch that... [01:00] keknehv: you followed the steps on the wiki? [01:00] I found the file :D [01:00] stvn, how many :D [01:00] What steps? [01:00] WW, ok :) === letheus [~s7s@port915.ds1-he.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:00] LinuxJones: 4 [01:00] ok - just managed to make my first newb error - ctrl-alt-f1 - couldnt get back to gnome so had to restart :) [01:00] lol [01:00] phoen1x: alt-f7 would have brought you back [01:00] phoen1x: ctrl alt f2 i guess [01:00] phoen1x: ctrl-alt-f7 ;) === mirak_ [~mirak@adsl-68-252-133-5.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] or that :) [01:01] stvn? where's the wiki page? [01:01] whats the easiest way to convert MP3's to wavs? [01:01] ctrl-alt-f7 - etched on my memory, thanks :) [01:01] convert to ogg [01:01] no... because my car doesnt recognize oggs [01:01] although that would be quite cool [01:01] keknehv: http://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/HardwareSupport_2fComponents_2fVideoCards [01:01] ;-) === stvn thinks a bot would be good afterall, if not just to give wiki URLS [01:01] thats a pretty good idea [01:02] stvn, You could add a bash script to notify your workstation when it enters runlevel 0 suppose. It's a good idea actually :D [01:02] Quick question: Is there a way to bring old GNOME menu items to GNOME2? [01:02] GotD0t: no point in converting mp3 to ogg, you only lose quality === bern [~bern@hc652777e.dhcp.vt.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] Ok... brb... [01:02] stvn: whilst rebooting i did notice something - whilst booting and the messages are flashing up the screen - 2 errors came up - both to do with PCI and hotplug? [01:02] phoen1x: no problem [01:03] phoen1x: still haven't figured out what causes them, but haven't met anyone who had problems with it [01:03] lol oki dokie [01:03] stvn: they tell you you got no pci-hotplug cards in your pc === saneones [~saneones@S010600e029839d80.vs.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] ogra: ah, thanks [01:04]