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| ddaa | lifeless: good example of correctness-preservingly turning a mess of interdependent modules into something much more sane providing a Facade. | 02:03 |
| lifeless | congrats | 02:03 |
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| ddaa | the next step (after command name customization) is abstracting out the command line generation. | 02:05 |
| ddaa | you've been talking about it in London. | 02:05 |
| ddaa | baz is going to make that something nice to have. | 02:05 |
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| !lilo:*! <Geert> Irssi is planning a redesign of its project web-pages. If you want to have your say in what we do with them, please join us in #irssi-site. | 06:07 | |
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| elmo | spiv: ? | 08:18 |
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| kiko | elmo, yo? | 10:27 |
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| kiko | wtf is our Label sample data | 10:47 |
| kiko | grrrrr | 10:47 |
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| kiko | BradB, I need your help. | 11:35 |
| BradB | ? | 11:35 |
| kiko | and don't say you're not here | 11:35 |
| BradB | i'm not here! | 11:35 |
| kiko | vive la france! | 11:35 |
| kiko | dude | 11:35 |
| kiko | I am doing something like way way evil | 11:35 |
| ddaa | kiko: ? | 11:35 |
| ddaa | we won a football match against your team again, or what? :-P | 11:36 |
| kiko | no, no | 11:36 |
| kiko | def architecturesReleased(self, distroRelease): | 11:36 |
| kiko | # XXXkiko I am a criminal | 11:36 |
| kiko | return SourcePackageRelease.__dict__['architecturesReleased'] (self, distroRelease) | 11:36 |
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| kiko | hey | 11:37 |
| kiko | if you help me I will try and pretend I fell for it | 11:37 |
| kiko | basically I created a view but I want to proxy some of the requests to another class | 11:37 |
| kiko | BradB, how do I create an SQLBase manually? | 11:38 |
| kiko | can I instantiate it supplying an id? | 11:38 |
| ddaa | ya know, if we tell mark about that, you be accommodated in the stables in Spain... | 11:38 |
| kiko | I will bring you candy if you don't | 11:38 |
| kiko | dilys, you be quiet | 11:38 |
| BradB | hm, /me ponders momentarily | 11:38 |
| BradB | kiko: architecturesReleased = SourcePackageRelease.architecturesReleased maybe? | 11:39 |
| kiko | I don't think it will run because of Python's class-enforcement | 11:40 |
| BradB | yeah, hm | 11:40 |
| ddaa | kiko; I am not sure I understand, but the only reason i can see of doing what you do would be to bypass getattr/getattribute... | 11:40 |
| kiko | it's practically the same as calling SourcePackageRelease.architecturesReleased(self, ...) | 11:40 |
| kiko | yes | 11:40 |
| kiko | precisely | 11:40 |
| kiko | because I am impersonating a SourcePackageRelease with a view | 11:40 |
| ddaa | Which is pointless, because iirc, getattr is not used for attributes which exist. Dunno about getattribute. | 11:41 |
| === ddaa apparently lacks context to understand why doing something like that would ever be necessary | ||
| kiko | ddaa, I am creating a database view | 11:42 |
| kiko | this means my query returns objects that are views and not real sourcepackagereleases | 11:42 |
| kiko | now some attributes there I have, but some I don't | 11:43 |
| ddaa | A view in the DBMS sense or in the MVC sense? | 11:43 |
| kiko | DBMS sense. | 11:43 |
| ddaa | Uh... what is that view for? | 11:43 |
| spiv | ddaa: getattribute is always called (for new-style classes). | 11:43 |
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| kiko | joining 1000 different tables conveniently | 11:44 |
| ddaa | spiv: I was sure you knew everything of that kind of evil black magic :-) | 11:44 |
| kiko | spiv is allowed to provide opinions too | 11:44 |
| kiko | just this once | 11:44 |
| spiv | ddaa: http://users.rcn.com/python/download/Descriptor.htm | 11:44 |
| ddaa | Thanks. | 11:45 |
| kiko | ah! | 11:45 |
| kiko | it's easy! | 11:45 |
| spiv | kiko: Mixin class? (shudder) | 11:45 |
| BradB | kiko: why not just get rid of the __dict__? | 11:46 |
| ddaa | Ha, yes, descriptor is the thing I need to do to make my "memoized_property" decorator for pyarch one day. | 11:46 |
| spiv | BradB: Because self is not an instance of SourcePackageRelease, if I'm understanding correctly. | 11:46 |
| kiko | no! | 11:46 |
| BradB | pass in a good self then | 11:47 |
| kiko | it's just a proxy through one of the view's attributes | 11:47 |
| kiko | spiv, yes, that's right. | 11:47 |
| kiko | BradB, that was SUCH a wisecrack :) | 11:47 |
| ddaa | kiko: why not just create another sqlos class for your view? | 11:47 |
| BradB | spr = SourcePackageRelease.get(theid), etc. | 11:47 |
| kiko | I COMMAND THE SYSTEM | 11:47 |
| kiko | def architecturesReleased(self, distroRelease): | 11:47 |
| kiko | # Proxy to a real SourcePackageRelease | 11:47 |
| kiko | return self.sourcepackagerelease.architecturesReleased(distroRelease) | 11:47 |
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| spiv | That looks much saner, yeah. | 11:48 |
| BradB | heh, somehow i don't think we had the context to know that could suffice, but yeah, makes sense :) | 11:48 |
| ddaa | kiko: yeah, that looks like a regular Proxy pattern. | 11:48 |
| kiko | modeling SQL views as objects is horrible | 11:48 |
| kiko | I want to go back to gardening | 11:48 |
| spiv | Modelling relations as objects is horrible ;) | 11:49 |
| kiko | I WANT THE ZODB | 11:49 |
| ddaa | ++ | 11:49 |
| ddaa | hu, spiv++ | 11:49 |
| ddaa | dunno about zodb... btw maybe we could have used the underlying ODBMS of postgres instead of bothering with sql.... | 11:50 |
| spiv | ddaa: ZODB is goodness. | 11:50 |
| spiv | dunno about postgres's odbms :) | 11:50 |
| ddaa | I'm skeptical of NIH, by principle. | 11:50 |
| spiv | Plus the ZODB guys keep finding weakref gc bugs in Python, so they must be clever ;) | 11:51 |
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| ddaa | i dunno about postgres odbms either. But I trust the postgres people to know what they are doing. | 11:51 |
| ddaa | spiv: somehow, code that keeps hitting obscure bugs in commodity software has to be a bit over the top. | 11:52 |
| spiv | ddaa: I trust the ZODB guys :) | 11:52 |
| BradB | ddaa: the guy who wrote most of the ZODB is now employed by google. he has much clue. | 11:52 |
| ddaa | That's a good cred, indeed. | 11:52 |
| kiko | and the guy currently in charge knows more about Python that god | 11:52 |
| kiko | (or about anything that's written in 1s and 0s I suspect) | 11:53 |
| === BradB can't wait to play mao in spain | ||
| === ddaa gives two penalty cards to BradB | ||
| ddaa | Invoking the name of our leader in vain. | 11:55 |
| BradB | ouch! | 11:55 |
| ddaa | Lying. You can obviously wait, your are waiting at the moment. | 11:56 |
| BradB | point of order: poo. end point of order. | 11:56 |
| ddaa | :-) | 11:57 |
| ddaa | The game, some like harsh. | 11:58 |
| BradB | the first time i played it, all i knew was something about how you can make up your own rules. i was a bit too liberal in applying that knowledge. | 11:58 |
| ddaa | muhuwhahaha | 11:59 |
| ddaa | making new rules is _hard_ | 11:59 |
| BradB | plus i was having a semi-scuffle in text messages on my cell with my girl back in montreal, so i wasn't thinking. | 11:59 |
| ddaa | harder than guessing them | 11:59 |
| BradB | yeah, i made a stupid one | 12:00 |
| BradB | kinnison is like the jrr tolkien of mao rules | 12:00 |
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