jdubpitti: steaming along with the USNs :)12:00
pittijdub: I do not manage to do anything else apart from security bugs right now :-(12:01
seb128everybody else has his trash applet broken in hoary ?12:01
seb128oh, Mitario !12:02
jdubyo Mitario 12:02
Mitariohi dudes :)12:02
Mitarioseb128, going to investigate soon, probably some drag event which doesn't work12:02
pittimdz: BTW, is there anybody else on your list who wanted to join the security team to reinforce me? 12:02
seb128I've a really weird behaviour12:02
seb128I DND something in the applet12:02
seb128and like 2-3 min after I get the animation on the screen12:02
Mitariowell, weird that it doesn't work in gtk 2.5 but does in 2.4.x12:02
Mitarioseb128, yeah, drag_timeout12:03
seb128good luck with that :)12:03
Mitarioty :)12:03
jdubMitario: what do you think about having a bigger icon pop up when you drag over the trash applet?12:03
Mitariojdub, jep was already hacking/thinking it out :D12:04
mdzpitti: fabio, but he is busy with X.org12:04
Mitariowe need some animation which gives the user the idea that it's on top of the icon and the file has actually been 'dropped' in the icon12:04
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jdubMitario: mmm12:07
Mitariojdub, or isn't that what you meant?12:07
jdubMitario: that's exactly what i meant ;)12:08
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seb128jdub: are you going to upload polypaudio to debian too ?12:20
jdubazeem didn't want to just yet12:20
seb128why ?12:20
jdubi'm waiting a bit for lennart's next release anyway12:20
jdubrpath oddness in the modules, etc.12:20
seb128#272596 -> rename that to an ITP at least12:21
pittinight, guys!12:23
Mitarionn pitti12:23
srbaker__i ahve a tomboy package for ubuntu if anyone's interested12:30
jdubsrbaker__: there's one in tseng's repo12:31
srbaker__jdub, oh, cool.  i wanted to do this anyways for educational value12:32
srbaker__god damnit.  balsa is being a pain in the ass12:32
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elmojdub: dude, filter the lists on the X-Katie header01:28
jdubelmo: ahar01:33
elmomaswan: zoiks01:34
elmopoor little auckland - there must be steam coming off it01:34
Mitarionn all, hacktime tomorrow01:35
jdubelmo: hrm, see, can't.01:36
elmojdub: doh, oh well01:36
jdubmdz: so, Keybuk tells me that warty-updates is not in the default sources.list02:03
jdublamont: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/t/tomcat4/4.1.30-6/tomcat4_4.1.30-6_20041101-2106-i386-failed02:04
jdublamont: is this fixable in any sane way?02:04
mdzjdub: yep02:05
jdubmdz: this is much the suck02:05
jdubmdz: i'm going to mail ubuntu-users about it02:05
jdubmdz: but... hrm.02:05
mdzjdub: sabdfl has decreed that it shall be forced into warty-security02:06
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mdzjdub: baby jesus may not be crying, but he's definitely making a face02:06
lamontjdub: looking02:14
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lamontjdub: sure: simply provide a blackdown-j2sdk1.4 package where the buildd's can fetch it (even if we don't allow machines outside the LAN to fetch it), and lots of stuff will suddenly build02:16
lamontand get baby jesus some candy or something...02:16
jdubmdz: so should i upload to warty-security, or are we going to push the packages over?02:30
mdzjdub: that'd be an elmo question02:30
jdubelmo: still awake?02:31
mdzjdub: I've updated the HoaryGoals wiki page with the rest of the stuff discussed at the kickoff meeting02:31
jdubHELLO ELMO!02:31
jdubmdz: rock02:31
mdzjdub: but I realized that my notes don't contain information about which bounties you had candidates for and which were open02:31
mdzjdub: if you could make a pass over the page and note where you already have a candidate, we can start to actively point folks to the remainder02:32
jdubmdz: i was thinking of bugzillizing them, and making a nice tree02:32
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jdubgood for tracking02:32
mdzI really don't want to fill bugzilla with enhancement requests02:32
mdzcertain users are already trying, and my current feeling is that they should all be moved elsewhere02:33
jdubthese are features goals, there's a difference :)02:33
elmojdub: done02:33
mdzbut they aren't, they're potential goals which may or may not happen02:33
mdztargets of opportunity, mostly02:33
jdubelmo: oh, you moved them?02:33
mdzfine with opening a bug once there's someone to assign it to02:33
mdzbut I'd rather not create a bunch of bugs with no home02:33
jdubmdz: yeah, only want a tree of assigned tracking bugs02:34
elmojdub: yeah - didn't you want me to?02:34
jdubelmo: was asking what we should do02:34
elmooh, duh.  well.  hasn't sabdfl spoken?02:35
jdubnever mind02:35
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jdubmdz: checked out libuser yet?02:39
lamontah, jabber seems happy again02:42
mdzjdub: no02:46
mdzjdub: ok, so for the ones where there's an assignee, feel free to create a bug and link it from the wiki02:46
mdzjdub: will you do that?02:49
mdzgreat, thanks02:50
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vinsci"security" needs to be a top-level item on the web site03:34
vinscirather than hidden under support|documentation|security notices03:36
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mdzvinsci: agreed03:58
mdzit needs to be more prominent03:59
mdzvinsci: filed bug #3145 about it04:00
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fabbionemorning guys06:15
fabbionelamont: are you still around?06:17
fabbionebuildd's did pickup xrender ubuntu306:17
fabbionemdz: libreadline5 needs to move from universe to main06:24
fabbionequite a bunch of packages depends on it06:24
fabbioneand it blocks pure warty -> hoary updates06:24
fabbionei am running XORG!07:01
fabbionei am running XORG!07:01
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tsengfabbione: you rock ++07:07
fabbionethe upgrade seems to be pretty smooth07:11
fabbionethere are a few tons of things that needs checking tho07:11
hornbeckfabbione: yes you do rock++ I can't wait to play myself07:14
danielsfabbione: i've been running xorg for months (although back to xfree86 now), get with the program :P07:15
fabbionedaniels: but you suck :P07:15
fabbionehornbeck: it won't take too long07:16
fabbionedaniels: the upgrade looks pretty good07:16
fabbionethere is not much that needs modification07:16
fabbionedaniels: specially because we kept the same name schema07:16
danielsfabbione: cool :)07:16
fabbioneguys... daniels has is portion of credits too07:16
danielsfabbione: just eating my free croissants, then I'll head off and go over to your place and we can set up buildd and stuff there07:17
fabbionedaniels: setting up an upgrade bitch machine to torture07:17
fabbionedaniels: sure.. take the time you need07:17
danielsfabbione: btw, the wireless here is really weird; none of the access points were active until 7am, and they were all off when I got back07:17
fabbionedaniels: do you remember how to come here?07:17
fabbionedaniels: hmmm i would give a kismet shot to the area..07:17
fabbionei am sure there are more :-)07:17
danielswould it be possible to limit hoary-changes to *only* messages from katie?07:18
danielsfabbione: yah, catch the C line train to Islev07:18
danielsfabbione: still got the sheet of paper07:18
fabbionedaniels: for some reasons katie accepted xresprobe ubuntu307:18
fabbionebut it has not been built07:18
fabbioneor better.. it did never hit the buildd07:19
fabbione(fixing the build-dep)07:19
danielsfabbione: eh, it'll get there in time07:19
fabbionewell.. i uploaded it yesterday evening07:20
fabbioneother packages after it have been already built07:20
fabbioneit's not a big deal07:20
fabbioneX.org installs fine without07:20
fabbionebut it doesn't build without ;)07:20
danielsheh :)07:22
fabbionedaniels: remember that you need to stamp the ticket!07:44
fabbionethere are some red machines at the train station07:44
fabbioneif they catch you without the stamp is like 500DKK07:44
danielsholy crap, that's expensive07:45
danielslike AUD16007:45
fabbioneif in doubts just ask to people07:48
fabbionethey are friendly with turists07:48
pascfabbione: with a face like this: http://fooishbar.org/gallery/syd-jul2004/acc07:50
danielsfabbione: ok, heading off now07:52
fabbionedaniels: ok07:58
fabbionepasc: ehehe07:58
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fabbioneok all lib* maint script revisited07:58
mdzfabbione: morning08:29
mdzfabbione: yes, there are several packages which need to move into main when the dust settles08:29
fabbionemdz: ok. do you know what happened to the buildd yesterday?08:35
mdzfabbione: I don't know what you mean08:35
fabbionei uploaded xrender ubuntu308:36
fabbioneaccepted by katie08:36
fabbionenever built08:36
fabbioneother packages upload after have been built08:36
fabbionethere are no signs of build logs08:36
mdzno idea, lots of other stuff has built fine08:38
fabbionemdz: do you have access to check or do we have to wait for elmo/lamont?08:40
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mdzfabbione: I do not08:47
fabbionehey Mithrandir 08:48
Mithrandirhiya fabio, how's .dk today?08:51
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=== sid77 hello!
danielsMithrandir: denmark is nice today09:12
Mithrandirdaniels: gotten any chocolate yet?09:14
danielsnot yet09:14
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fabbioneMithrandir: nice sunshine... amazing.. probably daniels took a slice of summer with him :-)09:23
Mithrandirsounds nice09:23
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mvo_hi seb128 09:56
seb128good morning mvo_ :)09:57
seb128jdub: around ?09:58
vinscithanks, mdz10:06
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bob2thom: your dbus cvs packages ftbfs :)10:44
mvo_anyone familar with discover1 out there?10:48
fabbionemvo_: daniels is.. 10:49
mvo_daniels: is there a way to tell discover to load a module with certain parameters?10:50
danielsnot without hacking the code10:52
danielsfile an enhancement and assign it to me and I'll get it done10:52
mvo_arggs :/10:53
danielsis it urgent?10:53
danielsi still have merge stuff to complete as well as x.org10:53
mvo_not urgent, it's for #315410:53
mvo_there may be other ways to deal with the problem of the parameters10:53
danielswell if you just want to file another one and mark it as blocking 3154, that'll probably be easiest10:53
mvo_thanks. I'll first have a look if there is another (easier) way to solve the problem10:54
bob2thom: and your Sources.gz is out-of-date wrt wireless-tools10:54
seb128fabbione: "to 2004-01-01" ? You're restarting the same year again ? :)10:54
fabbioneit was meant to be 2004-11-0110:54
carlosseb128: 2004 is being a good year :-P10:55
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robtaylorhey all!11:03
robtaylorhey, carlos! hows accessd going? i saw the post to the dbus list..11:03
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Mitariohi all11:57
Mitariowhy aint I proud to be a dutchie :S11:57
maswanelmo: well, we didn't seem to get too many mails tonight. we have dropped the partial cd mirror though, since we ran out of space hard yesterday.12:05
elmomaswan: doh12:05
maswanelmo: we're at 10 gigs free out of 400 now.12:05
Kamionwhere were you mirroring CD images from?12:05
maswan(well, strictly, 20 gigs out of 800, but all data counts twice since we do full replication)12:06
maswanKamion: same place, the releases directory12:06
maswan# rsync --delete --delete-after --hard-links -aq rsync://archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases /export/ftp/mirror/ubuntu-cdimage/releases12:06
maswanelmo: but still, official mirorrs should probably have a private authorized module with a high enough max client count12:08
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maswanthat way, hitting the max client count on the anon part doesn't hurt that much12:09
elmomaswan: yeah, they will12:09
elmodoes anyone know why fakeroot's shared lib is u+s ?12:10
elmomaswan: I've just been a bit crap about setting up proper mirror infrastructure so far12:11
maswanelmo: ah, ok. let me know if you want a helping hand, assuming I'm not out travelling or so.12:12
Kamionmaswan: oh, don't use that one, use rsync://releases.ubuntu.com/releases12:12
Kamionmaswan: archive.u.c/cdimage/releases/ has a fair amount of junk in it, and we'll hopefully be able to get rid of it at some point12:13
maswanKamion: ah, ok. thanks. I'll change that for the still commented out ubuntu-cdimage part then.12:13
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elmoDear World, please stop finding security bugs in packages that are installed on any Linux machine.  kthxbye12:41
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pittifabbione, daniels: did you see Matt's message with the libxpm patch?12:44
pittifabbione, daniels: do you think it is security relevant and must be fixed for Warty?12:45
pittielmo: +112:45
pittifabbione: since an X build would probably last until tomorrow on my machine, can I ask you to prepare and test an updated package? In exchange I would fix this new security bug in apache...12:46
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fabbioneKamion: what is the status of the installer for hoary?01:53
Kamionfabbione: working on it :-)01:58
Kamionfabbione: nearly there, but not quite yet01:58
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fabbioneKamion: cool.. do you have any ETA for when we can attempt the first clean hoary installs?01:59
fabbioneKamion: i will have to test X.org on fresh installs pretty soon01:59
elmoKamion: dude - what's the easiest way to use a different kernel with warty installer?  I need a G5 friendly kernel01:59
Kamionelmo: wget it, chroot /target dpkg -i before rebooting?02:01
Kamionelmo: or do you need it in the installer too?02:01
Kamionfabbione: later this week, at a guess. I'm buried in the base-config merge now02:01
elmoneed it in the installer - the existing kernel is unpatched, so won't boot AIUI02:01
elmoI'll check tho02:01
fabbioneKamion: cool02:01
Kamionelmo: modules don't need to change, do they?02:01
elmokamion: nope, just your patch needs applying02:01
Kamionelmo: if not, knock up a kernel-image .udeb with the new vmlinux and the same control information as the existing one, and drop it in place of the existing one on the CD02:02
elmonetboot's an option, if that's easier02:02
Kamionuh, I'm on crack, excuse me, kernel-image is irrelevant02:02
Kamionelmo: either put the new vmlinux in /install/powerpc/ on the CD, or just replace the warty d-i netboot kernel with your custom one02:03
elmokamion: cool, thanks will try that02:03
elmothe latter that is02:03
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fabbionehey lamont 02:10
lamontmorning fabbione02:10
lamonthoary.all.amd64:libs/xrender_0.9.0-0ubuntu3: Installed [optional:out-of-date] 02:11
lamonthoary.all.i386:libs/xrender_0.9.0-0ubuntu3: Installed [optional:out-of-date] 02:11
lamonthoary.all.powerpc:libs/xrender_0.9.0-0ubuntu3: Installed [optional:out-of-date] 02:11
lamontfabbione: or what was the issue?02:11
seb128hi lamont 02:12
fabbionelamont: elmo fixed it. thanks02:12
fabbionelamont: ubuntu2 went in dep-wait02:13
fabbionei fixed the deps in ubuntu302:13
fabbionebut it was not unlocked automatically02:13
Kamiondaniels: you still looking for that syslinux upload? I didn't make it back to a screen last night02:15
danielsKamion: um yeah, if you could, that would be cool, thanks02:16
danielsadelie has been radiating hate02:16
lamontfabbione: ah, ok02:17
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geoff__just installed to partition with xp. Looking good so far02:58
pittielmo: when you put my key into the upload keyring, you asked me which email address I wanted to use. Now that I have a @canonical address, this might be better suited. Do you have to change anything for that?03:06
elmopitti: no, *@canonical.com Just Works03:07
pittielmo: okay, thanks03:07
fabbioneelmo: when can i swap my gpgkeys?03:08
Kamiondid anyone make a decision on libelfg0/libelfg0-dev in main?03:10
Kamionit's blocking debootstrap03:10
Kamionhm, libreadline5 too03:12
Kamionnot sure what we're doing about that03:12
Kamionpython wants it so it probably has to move to main though03:13
elmogar fuck03:16
elmolibelf is one of the same version in warty/hoary things03:16
geoff__how do I "uncomment" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list  to be able to download universe packages. Newbie03:21
thomgeoff__: you really want to be in #ubuntu for user support questions, this is the developemnet channel03:22
geoff__Ok, sorry thom and thanks03:22
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mjg59Where's Mark at the moment? Still out of the country?03:28
elmoyeah - he's reading email tho03:28
fabbionemjg59: yes03:28
danielsmjg59: in sidd iffrika03:29
mjg59mark@canonical.com ?03:29
danielsmark@hbd.com is his main one iirc, though he probably also gets mark@canonical03:29
elmoyeah, either works03:29
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Kamionelmo: want a dummy libelf upload or something? :)03:41
elmono, there's a bunch of packages this affects, we can't fork them all just to move them between components03:42
elmoI'm working on it - it just means making DB changes and stuff, meh03:42
Kamionok, I'll hack around it for now03:44
elmoactually, no it doesn't.. I'll just brute force it03:44
danielsit's a race to see who can hack the fastest03:45
KamionI'd've won already if my NET CONNECTION WEREN'T SO SLOW03:47
Kamionof course this might have something to do with debmirror currently trying to suck down all of hoary/main+restricted03:48
mjg59Kamion: Are you doing anything this evening?03:49
Kamionnot a lot03:49
mjg59Fancy meeting to chat about the POST thing?03:49
danielsKamion: and it was only the other day you were saying something baout making my dialup explode :P03:50
Kamionmjg59: yeah, that sounds like a plan03:50
winkleAny reason for leaving jabberd2 out?03:53
danielswinkle: no-one proposed it?03:54
plovs_workwho is admins@admins.warthogs... Thom or James?04:01
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danielsplovs_work: both04:02
plovs_workdaniels, thanks04:03
mvo_ping doko04:03
Kamionplovs_work: you need to know? :)04:03
KeybukKamion: probably a matter of language ... elmo you ask nicely, thom you say "do this, bitch" <g>04:04
plovs_workKamion, need to sent a mail about the wiki and got two possible names04:04
thomand people wonder why i ignore mail from scott04:04
Kamionplovs_work: if you need to send a mail, why not just use the role address?04:05
danielsKeybuk: no, to elmo, you say 'dude! account! now!', and to thom you just smile sweetly04:08
mjg59Kamion: Do you have pjc50's mobile number?04:09
Keybukinteresting, and how long did it take you to get an account again?04:09
mjg59Could you /msg it?04:09
danielsKeybuk: ehm, about three minutes after I asked thom :)04:09
enricoelmo?  thom?04:10
danielsKeybuk: that's how you get accounts created -- if you have any idea on how to get thom to Fabric, let me know :P04:10
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danielsgah, it would be truly useful if dput had substitution in the post_command_hook04:14
danielssomething like ssh trider-g7.int.fabbione.net wanna-build --needs-build %p, hypothetically04:14
Kamionroot@cairhien:/# base-config new04:24
KamionI can see this is going well04:24
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plovsKamion: thanks04:26
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danielsKeybuk: if you're drinking, put the glass down and swallow04:39
elmoocaml-native-compilers                     | ocaml                            | cdbs (Build-Depend) 04:39
elmowhat CRACK is that?04:39
danielselmo: ...04:40
fabbioneelmo: pure shit :-)04:41
fabbioneof the best quality04:42
Keybukmdz: what are you doing online?!  get out there and vote as many times as possible! :D04:47
mdzKeybuk: hopped out of bed after realizing that my UTC offset had changed since the last tech board meeting :-)04:47
Keybukis there an agenda for this one?04:47
danielsmdz: when is the next one?04:47
mdzI think it's empty at the moment04:48
mdzhmm, no, I seem to recall adding something to it04:48
mdzdaniels: every second week04:48
fabbioneelmo: i need a few packages on hoary chroots on both adare and yellow...04:48
Keybukhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda  still thinks we're having the next one two weeks ago04:48
danielsKeybuk: that's because it's the old wiki, foo'04:48
fabbioneelmo: adare: Unmet build dependencies: groff libpam0g-dev | libpam-dev rman lynx libpng12-dev | libpng-dev libxcursor-dev dbs libxrender-dev (>= 0.9.0)04:48
mdzhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/.* is dead04:48
elmofabbione: the yellow chroot isn't a real amd64 chroot btw04:48
fabbioneelmo: yellow: Unmet build dependencies: libglide2-dev (>> 2001.01.26) libxrender-dev (>= 0.9.0)04:48
fabbioneelmo: hmmmm.. i think it will do..04:49
mdzKeybuk: we're going to talk about how you're going to work the merge magic on an ongoing basis for hoary :-)04:49
fabbioneelmo: isn't that chroot created from warty -> hoary upgrade?04:49
Keybukare we?  that's nice :o)04:49
Keybukhmm, changing timezones plays hell with Evolution's ongoing calendar04:50
fabbioneelmo: btw.. (hoary-chroot)fabbione@adare <- good | fabbione@yellow <- no good04:50
elmofabbione: no, I did a new one, 'cos I'm stupid.. I'll redo it in asec04:50
fabbioneelmo: ok.. let me logout04:51
fabbioneelmo: done.. it's all free (my side)04:51
elmoKamion: fyi, I did almost all the outstanding syncage, you should be good now04:51
elmoohh... which means, the testing output just became usable again..04:52
elmohmm, except it's all on crack.. anyway blah04:53
elmofabbione: done adare04:55
mdztech board meeting in #ubuntu-meeting05:01
danielselmo: please sync xfsprogs_2.6.20-105:01
Keybukelmo, mako, anyone else: #ubuntu-meeting05:01
mdzKamion, fabbione, thom, anyone05:01
danielsfabbione is moving a washing machine at the moment, sort of05:02
elmoumount: /srv/chroots/warty-chroot/proc/: device is busy05:02
danielshe'll be there05:02
thomalready there :-)05:02
elmodaniels: done05:02
danielselmo: thanks05:03
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elmoanyone know how to trace down _why_ it's busy?  lsof is unhelpful05:03
elmothere's nothing else bind mounting that directory or anything silly - other /proc chroot mounts umounted successfully05:03
danielselmo: quilt 0.35-1.1 kthx05:05
elmodaniels: done05:08
fabbioneelmo: thanks05:10
fabbionedchroot -c hoary05:10
fabbioneExecuting shell in 'hoary' chroot.05:10
fabbioneNo directory, logging in with HOME=/05:10
fabbionefabbione@yellow:/ $ 05:10
danielselmo: re2c 0.9.1-6 plz05:10
fabbioneelmo: are you rebuilding yellow too?05:11
elmofabbione: see above about proc05:11
mvo_mdz: upgrade-notifier is ready for first upload. can I just upload it? 05:12
mdzmvo_: sure05:12
mdzlong live horay05:12
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mvo_mdz: it contains a cron-job that will do a daily "apt-get update" and is dbus-ified so updates/package manager runs will result in recalculation of the cache05:15
mdzmvo_: hmm05:15
mdzI had thought that the cron job would be part of apt05:15
fabbioneelmo: fuser ?05:16
mvo_mdz: we can of course do that as well, but my reasoning was that it should be easy for the user to disable this notification stuff. in that case he only has to uninstall the upgrade-notifier and no more cron and icon. 05:16
mdzmvo_: but there are other reasons to update the lists from cron, without upgrade-notifier05:17
thomelmo: please can you sync mozilla-firefox from unstable?05:17
fabbioneelmo: i can see several files open in the warty-chroot05:18
elmoSKIP (too new)05:18
elmoRejected: syslinux_2.11-0.1ubuntu1.dsc refers to syslinux_2.11.orig.tar.gz, but I can't find it in the queue or in the pool.05:18
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fabbioneexit 10105:19
mdzmvo_: I suppose we need to provide some way to enable/disable it, though05:21
mdzI'm a bit nervous about having apt run the cron job by default, too05:21
mdzthough it's something that I do practically everywhere05:21
mvo_same here :)05:21
thomelmo: backuppc also05:22
elmothom: both done05:22
Kamionelmo: arse, ok, will fix05:25
KamionI've uploaded the base-config merge; however, I expect it to break, because I haven't been able to test it fully and it was very complicated. I figure nobody will notice because the rest of the installer doesn't work yet :-)05:26
fabbioneKamion: cool :-)05:26
fabbioneKamion 05:27
fabbioneif you want i can upload X now.. so nothing will work.. full stop05:27
fabbionewe can share the blames :-)05:27
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Kamionif you like :-)05:28
fabbioneKamion: don't temp us.. we are almost ready :-)05:28
fabbione(... to break world ;))05:28
danielsKamion: sorry, my bad05:28
Kamiondaniels: no, my fault for not building with -sa05:29
Kamionelmo: I've re-uploaded the .orig.tar.gz and the .changes; is that enough, or do I need another full upload?05:29
elmono, it's not, but I've fudged it05:32
danielsKamion: thanks for the sponsoring05:32
danielsKamion: feels just like the KDE-maintaining days ;)05:32
Kamionelmo: thanks05:35
Kamionyou'd think I'd know the gotchas by now05:35
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danielsRiddell: it's yours! take it! please!05:36
danielsRiddell: (the reference was when I was running around #debian-devel, harassing everyone I knew to sponsor my KDE uploads)05:36
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Riddellunfortunatly I'm not a debian developer, and I don't have time to do KDE for Ubuntu (unless they pay me)05:38
danielsKamion: is the right fix for 1685 to hardcode to another location, or is leaving it to $PATH secure enough?05:39
danielsRiddell: i wasn't a DD when I maintained KDE ...05:39
Kamiondaniels: can't use $PATH05:41
Kamion        if (!options.xauth_location ||05:41
Kamion            (stat(options.xauth_location, &st) == -1)) {05:41
Kamion                debug("No xauth program.");05:41
Kamionit'll have to be hardcoded to /usr/bin/X11/xauth, if that's the right fix05:42
danielsthe violent apoplectic spasms of rage /usr/bin/X11/xauth induces in me aren't much less violent than /usr/X11R6, I'm afriad05:43
danielsi'd like to cycle through /usr/bin/xauth, /usr/bin/X11/xauth, and /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth05:43
KamionI'd rather fix it to look on $PATH than do that, I think05:44
Kamionassuming $PATH is sensible at the start of the session05:44
elmoKeybuk: universe is in needs-merged.txt now too05:44
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Kamiondaniels: it's kind of awkward since you could get an x11-req message before login processing happens05:46
pittimdz: Hi! if you have a minute, can you please review #3126?05:46
pittimdz: again, s/if/when/05:46
mdzpitti: I do not think there is a vulnerability there05:47
mdzjoeyh opened the same bug, and I closed it05:47
mdzthe script runs with set -C05:47
KamionI have C path-searching code in man-db that I could use, but it's a bit bulky; giving it a list for xauth_location might be less intrusive :-/05:47
danielsKamion: ah05:48
Kamiondaniels: when do you need this fixed by?05:48
danielsKamion: ehm, grumpy05:48
danielssince it was decided that we weren't doing the whole modular thing for hoary05:48
Kamionoh :)05:48
pittimdz: hmm, so this is a mere DoS problem then05:48
Kamionok, well, I'll try not to forget anyway05:48
mdzpitti: I do not think there is even a significant DoS05:49
pittimdz: the DoS part does not scare me05:49
pittimdz: I just thought that the scripts were unsafe when runned in /tmp/05:49
danielsKamion: so, tell me, is reformatting the entire sis section in discover1-data total crack?05:51
danielsKamion: i'm thinking that the magic 8-ball says 'bongsipper' to retabbing the whole thing05:51
Kamiondaniels: tabs are significant there; what exactly do you mean?05:53
danielsKamion: tabbing it all out to be a consistent width05:54
Kamiondaniels: actually, I *think* only the first four tab characters are significant, but I'd still be inclined to leave it alone05:54
danielsKamion: 'kay05:54
thomwhat are .gmo files, and can i treat them with the contempt they seem due and blow them away in a clean target?05:54
Kamion  if(line[0]  == '\t'){05:54
Kamion    sscanf(line, "%08lx\t%12s\t%32s\t%256[^\n] \n",05:54
Kamionthom: compiled .po files; you can blow them away05:55
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elmothom: I do05:56
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danielshoary has firefox 1.0RC?06:06
thommozilla-firefox | 0.99+1.0RC1-2 |         hoary | source, i38606:07
fabbioneelmo: thanks for fixing yellow :-)06:08
elmofabbione: libglide2-dev doesn't exist?06:08
mdzthom: yay06:08
elmothom: err, didn't that, like trash all our branding?06:10
mdzlibglide2-dev | 2002.04.10-8ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages06:10
elmomdz: for amd64 :P06:10
elmoactually, fabbione probably ran dpkg-checkbuilddeps in the old (i386) chroot, which would explain it, so nm06:10
mdzFilename: pool/main/g/glide/libglide2-dev_2002.04.10-8ubuntu1_i386.deb06:10
thomelmo: yes. there is method to my madness tho06:11
thomdon't worry :-)06:11
fabbioneelmo: it's ok..06:11
elmookay, that needs-merged.txt is updated whenever new packages are installed now too06:11
fabbioneelmo: no i used dpkg-buildpackage in the chroot06:11
elmofabbione: dpkg-buildpackage calls dpkg-checkbuilddeps ..06:12
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fabbioneanyway.. dpkg-buildpackage was happy with what you did :-)06:13
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Kamioncjwatson@rookery:~/public_html/seeds$ tla register-archive https://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com06:24
Kamionunable to access URL: /~cjwatson/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/.listing06:24
KamionI'm confused, that shouldn't be a 30206:24
Kamionwebdav error: 302 Found06:24
danielselmo: lolz syck 0.42-5 tia06:27
danielsKamion: it shouldn't be going for a .listing unless webdav is broken06:27
Kamionbleh, it isn't doing https properly06:28
Kamionhow'm I supposed to cron this?06:28
KamionI'm not giving rookery unfettered access to chinstrap, and I don't want the public copy to be behind a passworded apache06:29
Kamiondaniels: I deliberately set up a .listing just in case, that's not really the problem06:29
thombleh, you should probably use baz06:30
Kamionhappy to, but it's not on rookery06:30
danielselmo: xosd 2.2.11-306:30
thomi don't think we ever fixed the tla in warty to talk https06:31
Kamionnor chinstrap, for that matter06:31
danielselmo: (please)06:31
Kamionfuck it, I'll rsync the archive to rookery using a restricted ssh key06:31
danielsKamion: oh, I know why it might be06:32
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Mitariohey everyone06:32
mvo_hi Mitario 06:33
mvo_I uploaded the upgrade-notifier in the archive today :)06:33
Mitariocool! :)06:33
Kamiondaniels: it's ignoring https: and trying to talk to port 80, so it gets a redirect06:33
Mitariowith cronjob?06:33
mvo_without, mdz suggest to put it into the apt package itself06:33
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Mitarioyeah, good point06:34
mvo_but we'll have to make it a configurable item first06:34
mvo_not everyone wants a cronjob06:34
mvo_I need to do some shoping, will be back in ~30min-1h06:35
pittimdz: can you please review #2771 at some time? TIA06:35
danielsKamion: ah06:36
Mitariobrb, food06:36
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mdzpitti: so many bugs :-(06:38
pittimdz: in fact we only need to fix a few of the original list of the trustix patch06:39
mdzpitti: is there no official patch upstream yet?06:39
mdzpitti: it might be worthwhile to mail bod or upstream06:39
pittimdz: I just looked into the "cvs" (they have a slightly different thing there)06:40
pittimdz: apparently they fixed stuff, but they rewrote half of the code06:40
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pittimdz: and upstream uses a very odd method to generate a valid tmpname, and there is still a race condition06:40
mdzpitti: I see no problems with your patch; I assume you ran the test suite to test it?06:41
pittimdz: of course06:41
pittimdz: it is automatically done during the build, BTW06:41
pittimdz: I also ran the affected programs manually06:41
mdzpitti: none of the code is installed, correct?06:42
mdzit is only tests?06:42
pittimdz: the *.t files are not installed06:42
mdzoh, some of it is06:42
mdzExtUtils and Devel06:42
pittimdz: but the other files are06:42
Kamionelmo/thom: could I have gpg on rookery?06:43
pittimdz: that's why I rewrote PPPort.pm06:43
Kamion(for archive signature checks on the tla get I'm about to do)06:43
pittimdz: there, a simple tmp$$ in the current directory is inappropriate06:43
pittimdz: instmodsh is also installed, but it got a proper tmpfile handling, too06:44
pittimdz: okay, I uploaded the thing and will process it when it built06:45
danielselmo: can you please sync gnutls10 1.0.4-8?06:54
Kamionok: tla register-archive sftp://chinstrap.warthogs.hbd.com/home/warthogs/archives/ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com06:56
Kamiontla get ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com/seeds--hoary--006:56
Kamionit's a signed archive, so before committing to it please make sure you have 'gpg --clearsign' or similar in ~/.arch-params/signing/=default06:57
Kamionupdates mirrored to http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/ with a maximum lag of about 17 minutes06:58
mdzKamion: thanks07:02
zulanyone working on a sparc port? :)07:04
KamionI'll mail that stuff to the list once germinate works on it07:06
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mdzzul: some people have expressed interest, including fabbione I believe07:08
fabbionei am still waiting to get my sparc back07:09
zulcool..what does one have to do to get started?07:09
fabbionei am seriously fedup07:09
fabbionezul: mail lamont :-)07:09
Kamionelmo: you're not running germinate against sid any more, are you?07:15
Kamionactually, never mind, will do it a different way07:16
elmodaniels: done07:24
elmoKamion: done07:24
danielselmo: thanks dude07:24
elmopitti: your perl upload has a bogus version number07:33
pittielmo: argh; I'll fix it07:33
pittielmo: can the packages be removed from the queue?07:35
Kamionwhat was that CONFIG_PCI_MSI change purported to fix?07:35
elmopitti: ugh - yes, with a lot of manual hacking07:37
pittielmo: I'm sorry for that07:37
pittielmo: it isn't sufficient to remove the package from accepted/?07:37
pittielmo: problem is, that 2ubuntu0.1 is smaller than 2.107:37
pittielmo: I can also call the next upload -2.1ubuntu0.1; also ugly, but maybe easier07:39
elmopitti: doesn't matter, I've done it now07:41
pittielmo: thanks a lot!07:41
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Kamiongerminate mainline now has a -s/--seed-dist option that you can use to pick a different seed07:42
Kamionyou'll likely want to use -s hoary -d hoary (i.e. get both seeds and Packages/Sources files from hoary)07:42
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elmoOut-of-date BUT modified:  54 (5.16%)07:52
elmoOut-of-date BUT modified: 131 (1.48%) <-- main+universe ^--- just main07:52
mdzonly 18 bugs remaining, I guess there have been quite a few debian changes07:54
Kamionfabbione: may be incoming call for you/daniels from sabdfl about some weird X configuration thing he's battling with07:58
Keybukisn't he supposed to be on a plane at the moment?07:59
Kamionfabbione: do we still need germinate support for your IPv6 dump thing? I'm thinking that if it's still needed it might be better to split it out into a separate tool07:59
KamionKeybuk: didn't sound like it when he called me a few minutes ago while doing an installation :)08:00
Kamionunless he's got the ultra-first-class plane seat with lots of computers scattered around him08:00
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fabbioneKamion: i am on the phone with him right now08:06
fabbioneKamion: thanks :-)08:06
Kamiondaniels: ugh, syslinux/amd64 failed, guess I'll have to poke at that here08:14
Mithrandirfailed to merge, failed to build or failed to work?08:14
Kamionbugger, I'm late08:15
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Mithrandirargh, my dsl is either dead or on a different IP.08:17
thomsuckage either way08:17
Mithrandirthom: could I get nasm and netpbm in the hoary chroot on yellow?08:18
thomamd64 or i386, or both?08:19
Mithrandirit only has hoary-amd6408:20
thomah, right08:20
thomeasy answer then ;-)08:20
carloscould anyone suggest me a warty/hoary package with .po files to translate the debian package templates?08:20
carlosok, thanks08:21
mdzseb128: where do these eggdesktop messages come from?08:21
seb128which ones ?08:21
mdzseb128: the ones seen during postinst with some packages in hoary08:22
seb128oh, update-desktop-database08:22
mdzseb128: have you looked for the cause?08:22
seb128probably the mplayer .desktop, I don't have it installed but according to some users it has 4 [Desktop Entry]  entries08:23
mdzyeah, just looked at strace08:24
mdzremoving mplayer.desktop fixes it08:24
seb128ok, that's it08:24
mdzit also complains about gftp, but in a much nicer way :-)08:24
mdzCould not parse file '/usr/share/applications/gftp.desktop': desktop entry contain line 'Desktop Entry] ' which is not an entry, group, or comment08:24
seb128I'll take care of the gftp problem08:25
seb128anybody has planned a mplayer update and want to fix this one ? :)08:25
mdzseb128: is it simply malformed?08:25
thomMithrandir: done08:25
seb128I've not looked on the source, so not sure if it's generated or fix08:25
seb128but basically it should get only one [Desktop Entry]  08:26
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mdzso it should be split into several .desktop files?08:26
seb128I'm downloading the source08:26
seb128just to be sure08:26
MithrandirKamion: weird, builds fine now.08:26
mdzseb128: actually I have no idea what it is doing08:27
mdzseb128: it seems to have several copies of exactly the same [Desktop Entry] 08:27
Mithrandirthom: uhm, please run apt-get update in the chroot as well?08:27
seb128mplayer is crap, that's not new :p08:27
seb128(still downloading08:27
seb128hum, ./etc/mplayer.desktop is fine, ./debian/mplayer.desktop is fucked08:28
seb128I blame Marillat08:29
thomMithrandir: i did08:29
Mithrandirthom: you did indeed, thanks.08:30
Mithrandirthom: but you ran that after installing the build-deps, I think, as mingw32 is missing08:31
Mithrandir: tfheen@yellow(hoary-chroot) ~/syslinux/syslinux-2.11 $ dpkg-checkbuilddeps 08:32
Mithrandirdpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: mingw3208:32
thomuh, you just asked for nasm and netpbm, dude08:32
thomi've now got the build-deps installed ;-)08:33
seb128mdz: dunno why Marillat duplicated the same stuff several time. I'm going to upload a package with only one entry that should be fine08:33
mdzseb128: sounds good08:33
Mithrandirthom: ok, I'm silly then.  Please, mingw32 as well, with sugar, sans chocolate, with tea on top?08:33
thomheh :-) done already08:33
Mithrandirthanks :)08:34
Mithrandirwhy do we need syslinux, btw?  Is it used for the cds?08:34
mdzMithrandir: yes, for isolinux08:37
mdzthough perhaps we should consider moving to grub08:37
Mithrandirwe should just use grub, at least on amd6408:37
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mdzgrub wouldn't boot the morphix CD on my old laptop08:53
mdzbut it booted a Debian CD with isolinux fine08:53
Mithrandirwas that an amd64 box? :)08:53
mdzno, i38608:53
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Mithrandiryeah, i386 is full of quirks, amd64 should be a lot better, so I was suggesting just to change for amd64, not i386.08:54
winkleseb128: missing python-gtk2-doc, any plans to include it?08:55
Mithrandirand memdisk doesn't compile and there's _no_ way it could be compiled on i386 either.08:56
seb128  Installs: (aucun)08:56
seb128  Candidat: 2.4.10-2ubuntu108:56
seb128 Table de version:08:56
seb128     2.4.10-2ubuntu1 008:56
seb128        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/multiverse Packages08:56
seb128winkle: not missing08:56
winklesorry, lacked multiverse08:57
seb128but dunno why it's here08:57
seb128it should be in main08:57
seb128I've added it to the seed before the warty release IIRC08:57
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jdub"Ubuntu is great only thing missing is encrypted IM."09:17
jdubonly thing missing, dudes09:17
jdubwe have our hoary work cut out09:17
seb128jdub: !!09:19
jdubhey seb128 09:23
seb128jdub: evo 2.1.0 will take a few days09:24
seb128they changed all the libs names in e-d-s, so we have to renamed all the binary packages09:24
jdubfor us, that'll be two transitions in a week or so ;)09:25
seb128and  it would be better to have the same name in debian/ubuntu ... so I've mailed kitame with a summary of the renaming09:25
seb128I'm waiting to know if he's ok with that09:25
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thomholy crap. someone just used KDE and simplicity in the same sentence09:39
Mithrandirtwo points to whoever sees what's wrong:09:44
Mithrandir        $(LD) -nostdlib $(LDFLAGS) $(CFLAGS_ARCHDEP) -Wl,-Ttext,0 -o $@ $^09:44
KamionMithrandir: hm, I don't see CFLAGS_ARCHDEP and ASFLAGS_ARCHDEP actually being passed from debian/rules to the Makefile09:48
MithrandirKamion: they're not, but this sticks a fair bit deeper than that.09:49
KamionI don't think so?09:49
Mithrandirthe debian package builds, though, but clean is FUBAR.09:49
Mithrandirremember, we've broken gcc-3.3's 32 bit support09:49
Kamion+               $(MAKE) VERSION="$(VERSION)" DATE="(Debian, $(DATE))"09:50
Kamionthat's from the syslinux 2.04-2ubuntu1 -> 2.11-0.1ubuntu1 diff09:50
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mvo_ping doko10:16
Kamionelmo: might want to pull mingw32 and deps in from universe for syslinux?10:18
MithrandirKamion: are you whacking the package or should I?10:20
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KamionMithrandir: is it more than just adding CFLAGS_ARCHDEP and ASFLAGS_ARCHDEP? I can do that now, just pulling in build-deps10:24
sivanglamont : are you a fireman ?10:24
KamionMithrandir: ... on the other hand I have a thumping headache. Go ahead.10:25
lamontsivang: yes10:25
MithrandirKamion: I'll do it, it's a bit more, since the version in Debian is borken atm.10:25
lamontsivang: although this time, all we did was stand around with 3-dozen or so law enforcement types until they were done..10:26
lamont1 dead, 3 in custody, or something like that10:26
KamionMithrandir: mkay, thanks10:26
Kamionwell, it *builds* for me with those two additions anyway, I'll leave making it work up to you10:30
MithrandirKamion: on amd64?10:32
Kamionyou're working off the merged version in hoary?10:33
Kamion-               $(MAKE) VERSION="$(VERSION)" DATE="(Debian, $(DATE))"10:34
Kamionthat's all I did10:34
MithrandirKamion: hm, it builds now, yes.  I need to test it at home, though.10:40
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Mitarionite all10:50
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mdzseb128: hmm, dist-upgrade in hoary removes trashapplet? was it merged into gnome-applets or something?11:01
CraigoryHello, I just read the Ubuntu review here: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=875411:01
CraigoryOne complaint they had was with the difficulty in editing the gnome applications menu.11:01
seb128mdz: yes, gnome-applets 2.9.1 conflitcs/provides/replaces it11:01
mdzseb128: ah, neat11:02
CraigoryI think it might be a good idea to add an entry in applications:/// called "Edit Menu" or some such.  That's what I have done on my installation.11:02
CraigoryOr perhaps in the "Computer" menu.11:02
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jdubCraigory: menu editing is largely broken, so keeping it out of the public eye is healthy for the time being11:09
=== lamont wanders for a bit
mdzjdub: everything should be syncing from sid automagically unless it's modified11:10
jdubhrm, maybe it hasn't got past NEW in debian yet11:11
seb128it was in incoming today11:13
seb128you're speaking agout gst-python, right ?11:13
seb128it's here11:14
seb128are we going to sync openoffice 1.1.3 from experimental ?11:15
seb128the new package has the gnomevfs support :)11:15
seb128not tested yet, but:11:15
seb128   * New major patches:11:15
seb128     - vfs-*: GNOME VFS Support [MM] 11:15
seb128       [ This means we now have integrated all of the major Ximian11:15
seb128         patches and thefore this closes: #201494 ] 11:15
seb128so probably11:15
seb128  * New packages: [RE] 11:16
seb128     - openoffice.org-gtk-gnome: Gtk UI Plugin and GNOME File Picker for11:16
seb128                                 OpenOffice.org11:16
seb128     - openoffice.org-gnomevfs: GNOME VFS support for OpenOffice.org11:16
seb128     - openoffice.org-evolution: Evolution Adressbook support for11:16
seb128       OpenOffice.org11:16
seb128nice nice nice :)11:16
jdubmdz: linux-source you just upped to hoary -> worth a warty-update?11:24
jdubseb128: hahaha, dude11:24
jdubseb128: the 'install samba' and 'install ntp' buttons ROCK11:24
seb128yeah :)11:24
jdubseb128: although the time/date thingy doesn't really handle ntp being installed underneath it very well ;)11:24
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seb128yeah, need some improvements :/11:27
jdubbut it is cool!11:28
jdubuh oh11:28
jdubnever mind11:28
jdubseb128: i think s/SMB/Windows Networking/ in the dialogue would make sense11:29
lamontjbailey: glibc build this time (2.3.2-18ubuntu1)11:29
jbaileylamont: Still seing the failure?11:29
seb128jdub: hum, probably yes11:29
seb128hey jbailey !11:29
lamontjbailey: not with this one11:29
jbaileyHeya sb!11:29
jdubseb128: heh, all the g-s-t tools crash on close for me - same there?11:29
jdubyo jbailey!11:29
jbaileylamont: Hmm.  Strange.  It was never consistant for me, but I haven't seen it in a while.  There shouldn't be anything between -13 and -18 to change that though.11:30
jbaileyjdub: Namesake!11:30
seb128jdub: yes, and also in the bugzilla11:30
jdubseb128: rock11:30
=== lamont remembered to go to the poles and vote against the candidate that scares him more.
lamontseb128: are you working through the gnutls1[01]  change?11:31
seb128lamont: that's on my list yes11:31
seb128but doing the evolution 2.1.0 stack for the moment :)11:32
elmokamion: gar.  we really have to pull in mingw32?11:33
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mojo_hi all ppl11:33
Kamionelmo: dunno the rationale11:33
KamionMithrandir: ^-- ?11:33
mojo_can someone look at the /etcS.d/S50hwclock.sh please?11:33
mojo_it found some weird syntax error there11:34
mojo_/etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh please?11:34
mojo_/etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh: line 118: syntax error near unexpected token `('11:35
mojo_/etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh: line 118: `           log_success_msg "start sets kernel (system) clock from hardware (RTC) clock" >&2'11:35
Kamionok, will do11:35
pittimojo_: indeed...11:35
pittimojo_: the error is on line 96, an unterminated string11:36
Kamionpitti: you on it already, or shall I fix?11:37
pittimojo_: thanks for this! 11:37
pittiKamion: I just fixed it inline in my system, but I don't yet have the package11:37
pittiso go ahead if you have it11:37
pittiKamion: I guess the pretty and quiet init scripts don't only have advantages...11:37
mojo_so u fix it pitti?11:39
mojo_and upload it11:39
Kamionmojo_: I'm doing it now11:39
Kamion(unless lamont beats me to it, since he's more the maintainer than I am :))11:39
mojo_things get buggy these day heh?11:40
mojo_but I love buggy stuff11:40
Kamionmerges are like that sometimes, they're a very complex business and quite error-prone11:40
jdubo/~ that's what hoary's for... in good times, and bad times, i'll be filing bugs for evermore... that's what hoary's for... o/~11:40
mojo_coding is a bit spiky like Hedgehog11:41
lamontKamion: just hoary, or is it a debian bug too?11:41
Kamionjust hoary11:41
KamionI checked :)11:41
Kamionit's in the pretty-init-script stuff11:41
Kamionsorry to preempt, seemed urgent11:42
Kamionthen again, I always did like preemptive bridge bids :)11:42
mojo_lamont, kamion: closed this bug on bugzilla too11:43
lamontKamion: np11:43
mojo_who is the maintainer of evolution?11:44
mdzKamion: if you fixed hwclock, there's a bug in bugzilla open about it which should be closed, if you haven't already11:44
seb128mojo_: I'm doing the evolution uploads, why ?11:45
Kamionmdz: done11:45
mojo_seb128: something wrong with the 2.0211:45
seb128what ?11:45
mdzKamion: another one just came in (#3179)11:45
mojo_seb128: run it, it works,11:45
Kamionmojo_: this sort of thing tends to be better done through the BTS than by finding the maintainer on IRC ...11:45
mojo_seb128: then it breaks whole my apt/source.list11:45
mdzlamont: what happened with that bug?11:46
mojo_seb128: I dun have such prob with Debian 'sid'11:46
seb128mojo_: evolution breaks your sources.list ?11:46
seb128are you sure that's evolution ?11:46
mojo_seb128: yeah, so weird!!!11:46
mojo_seb128: yeah, I tested many times but can't find the answer, I think u put something wrong in the package11:47
seb128why do you say that's evolution ?11:47
lamontmdz: ECONTEXT?11:47
Kamionmojo_: don't file random bugs against base-config in future, though, please :-)11:47
seb128mojo_: the current package is the debian one11:47
mojo_seb128: cause whenever I run it, it breaks11:47
mojo_seb128: weird!!11:47
mdzlamont: hwclock syntax error, came in Sunday11:47
lamontmdz: I think that's the one that kamion just uploaded the fix for11:48
seb128mojo_: what is changed in the sources.list ?11:48
mdzlamont: yes, it is11:48
mojo_seb128: maybe I was wrong, but I am sure that evolution stops and freezes sometimes at wizard choosing time zone11:48
lamontmdz: and the question is how did it get there?11:48
mojo_seb128: all the text been deleted11:48
lamontmerge screwup, I expect.11:48
mdzlamont: no, the question was why it didn't get the trivial fix sooner11:48
mojo_seb128: btw, I leave this for u, hope u find some answer for it11:49
lamontmdz: good question - was dealing with merges of other packages yesterday, and it got lost in the pile of bugs, I expect.11:49
seb128mojo_: yes, the freeze bug has been reported 11:49
mojo_are ppl reconsidering to have a deb for Helix Player in Hoary?11:50
lamontmdz: house guest this week is also messing a bit with productivity, to be followed next 2 weeks with me being elsewhere and able to focus better.11:51
Kamionmdz: so, anything obvious that I should be adding to the hoary seeds straight away?11:51
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elmokamion: the stuff you had me add11:51
Kamionelmo: most of that was dependencies?11:52
Kamionoh, ok11:52
mdzthat's what I have on my list11:52
mdzsome of those need elaboration and discussion, though11:52
elmo   o upgrade-notifier11:52
seb128jdub: running evo 2.1.0 now :) I'll try to get a reply from Kitame tomorrow and then upload the new evo stack :)11:52
mdzjdub: are we clear for fam->gamin and esd->polypaudio?11:52
jdubmdz: clear for gamin, not clear for polypaudio11:52
jdubseb128: rawk :)11:53
mdzKamion: go ahead with s/fam/gamin/ if you're editing; that's been discussed already11:53
seb128big fight for polypaudio11:53
elmoseb128: can you fix evo1.5 while you're there; as in kill it?11:53
elmokamion: download-installer too11:53
mdzfabbione: which libglide package do we want in desktop?11:53
elmokamion: and ssh11:53
seb128elmo: the 1.5 have been removed with the merges, haven't they ?11:54
=== lamont must go fetch children
elmoseb128: hmm, yeah, it ought to have been killed as cruft, it's not built from source - sorry11:54
mdzelmo: do you remember the outcome of the archive key management discussion we had a while back?11:55
seb128elmo: ok, np11:55
lamontmdz: fwiw, 3105 showed up on my doorstep this morning about 10 AM11:55
mdzhaving that stuff straightened out is the only prerequisite for getting apt 0.6 into hoary11:55
elmomdz: which one - we've had at least 3 or 4 :/11:55
mdzlamont: it came in before 0400 2004-11-01, so 10-31 your time11:55
Kamionfile-preseed, network-preseed, download-installer added; s/fam/gamin/ done11:56
mdzlamont: mail problems?11:56
seb128jdub: good time to switch epiphany from mozilla to firefox I guess ? :)11:56
thomseb128: you so should do that now11:56
lamontmdz: sorry - wrong mail message.11:57
Kamions/openssh-server/ssh/ done11:57
seb128thom: ok, let's go for it :)11:57
thomyou need anything from firefox?11:57
lamontoriginal report arrived monday 08:09 AM11:57
=== jdub gets out the riot suits and rubber bullets.
elmothom: this is the method? :P11:57
lamontanyway, back in a biut11:57
Kamionmdz: where do lm-sensors and bluetooth need to go?11:57
thomelmo: eh? 11:58
elmoin your madness...11:58
thomoh, right11:58
seb128thom: no, that's fine, just need to switch a build flag for epiphany11:58
thommulti-hour comments don't work too well for me right now, too tired :/11:58
jdubthom: how'd ff theme and stuff go?11:59
elmogar, I wish sh had a -x flag that showed redirections too11:59
thomjdub: still working on it; forms worked no problems, themes need more love11:59
Kamiondoes -v help?11:59
Kamionmight need to use -vx which is super-noisy11:59
jdubthom: cool, hard to get additional theme into the package and set as default, or...?12:00

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