=== elmo [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] err, warty has SW RAID support in the installer, right ? [12:14] mjg59: any thoughts on #3213? [12:17] With ACPI, there's no way to call DPMS code [12:18] Why there's a garbled screen, I'm not sure [12:19] Do we know if this is using the framebuffer? [12:22] elmo: yes [12:23] not RAID 1 root, apparently [12:23] oh well [12:32] n8 [12:34] mdz: yeah, i'm gonna land one avec patches tomorrow morning === ultrafunk [~pd@insanity.ridge.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:39] jdub: is there any reason because the ubuntu-calendar-november package does not exists in hoary? [12:44] Hoary is a pr0n-free zone in order to prevent the developers from becoming distracted [12:44] They only get their pr0n fix when it's ready for release [12:45] all they have for distractions now is frozen-bubble and mao [12:45] NO MAO [12:48] :-P === pasc still hasn't played mao [12:48] I've managed to escape so far [12:49] pasc: heh, you shall soon learn the full power of the dark side [12:49] heh [12:50] I had bob2 and lifeless at my place yesterday, and _still_ managed to avoid it ;-) [12:57] carlos: hrm, thought elmo was going to push it there too === jdub will fix/ [12:57] jdub: thanks [01:12] mjg59: the bug is the sum total of what I know about it. (Actually, I fear it's the superset... :-) [01:23] mako: ping? === usual [~colin@alb-69-200-178-150.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] oh poo [01:37] hrm [01:37] how can we get u-c and u-c-monthly packages into hoary, given that they already exist in the archive? [01:50] mjg59: http://bugme.osdl.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3670 [01:50] thom: http://primates.ximian.com/~glesage/stuff/firefox/ -> 1.02 update [01:54] jdub: Yeah, I've been playing with that [01:54] The video_post stuff seems to work pretty well [01:55] At the weekend, I'll build up test kernels [02:00] garrett's theme works in 0.9.3, too [02:00] handy [02:00] As is, I'm doing suspend and resume on the X40 with no kernel arguments now [02:01] wow [02:02] We just reinit the video from userspace after resume [02:02] I'm feeling pretty good about S3 support, once we manage to figure out what the complete failure on some hardware is === jamesh [~james@203-59-50-191.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mjg59 wonders if he can convince Mark that a Sony X505VP would make a good test machine [02:05] how's suspend looking on the craptop? [02:05] mjg59: "yeah, this one is reaaaallly buggy" [02:05] bob2: Suspend is just peachy [02:05] Resume, now that's a different matter [02:06] hah, right [02:06] I've no fucking clue. The thing just never executes any of the wakeup code. [02:06] Which makes debugging a complete arse === mjg59 is at the point of wondering about printing out the ACPI spec [02:06] It's only 500 pages or so... [02:06] can windows wake it up? [02:06] Yeah [02:06] Works fine with XP [02:07] I'm wondering about trying to write my own trivial ACPI implementation and then comparing that [02:09] Hmm. We ought to be able to bodge screen blanking for the console together with x86 emulation. [02:10] There's a routine at a known location in VBE compliant VGA Bioses [02:10] More fun for me at the weekend === mojo_ [~mojo@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:23] morning [02:23] morning [02:42] hey [02:43] has AsliSolaritaire game in GNOME supported SVG yet? [02:43] I decide to work on a SVG version [02:46] mdz: hey there [02:47] mdz: i'm still working on the summary of the kickoff meeting.. i'm almost done.. it's SO LONG [02:47] mako: you're telling me [02:47] mdz: i've been working on it for 2.5 hours :) [02:48] mako: I sent you my notes, right? [02:48] mdz: yeah [02:48] mako: I polished those notes into the HoaryGoals page [02:49] oh, ok [02:49] i will link to those [02:49] the summary will have a paragraph for most these [02:49] a lot of it can be integrated straight into the goals page [02:51] mako: hmm, I was working on a hoary status update, sounds like we have some overlap [02:51] mako: you can stick to the events of the meeting, and I'll flesh things out in the status update\ [02:51] if it's easier [02:52] what do you mean by events of the meeting? [02:53] as in, don [02:53] do you mean, "dont' flesh out out the feature goals so much"? [02:53] because that's what i'm doing onw [02:53] more or less, yeah [02:53] but if you've already done it, great === rabidbt [~rabidbt@66.45.74.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:54] mdz: well.. i've done probably half [02:54] i've done more than half the log [02:54] mdz: i'll just continue. should be less than an hour [02:54] I haven't written that bit of the status update yet [02:54] so, more power to you [02:55] mdz: yeah, it will be useful to you and i was doing it anyway :) [02:55] i can throw what i have somewhere if you want [02:55] how I'm hoping it will work is that I've created subpages for the feature goals which need more fleshing out, and the people responsible will create them [02:55] nah, I'm on my way out [02:56] ok, sounds good [03:01] mdz: don't want to do bug tree? [03:07] where is mplayer in upstream??? has lamont uploaded it yet? [03:29] mojo_: ?? [03:30] "in upstream"?? [03:33] mdz: heh.. at about 3.5 hours into the meeting, thing really start to degenerate :) [03:33] mdz: as in, your list is about as useful as the log itself :) === hazmat [~hazmat@j71055.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:43] lamont: I can;t find any mplayer package! [03:44] mojo_: it's in multiverse as of hoary [03:48] thx [03:50] although it appears to be ftbfs on amd64. [03:50] lamont: synaptic crash immediately while loading data from multiverse [03:50] interesting [03:51] lamont: bug sumitted [03:52] lamont: apt-get works well with multiverse but...y xmms is dep for mplayer???? [03:58] mojo: yes, --with-xmms iirc === lamont just builds things. :-) [04:12] does anyone want to read the hoary kickoff meeting summary and do me a huge favor in the process? [04:12] mako: where? [04:13] lamont: i need someone to fix obvious grammar errors in the second half [04:13] i've been looking at it for almost 4 hours and my eyes are just too crossed to catch anything :) [04:13] ok [04:14] lamont: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ [04:14] lamont: just edit the file when you find errors and send me the changed version [04:14] and thanks :) [04:16] .rst? [04:17] lamont: it's a text file [04:17] lamont: restructured text you don't need to know RST it edit it [04:17] rst is the source [04:18] so I should make edits in .rst. ok [04:18] yeah [04:25] lamont: i'm stepping out to buy a book [04:25] lamont: just email me [04:25] lamont: and thank you so much [04:26] mako: OK. === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-066-197.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:47] mako: sent === lamont sleeps [05:12] morning guys [05:12] night lamont [05:13] didn't daniels just go to bed? [05:15] bob2: well it's 5am here [05:15] it's not like i am babysitting him [05:15] he can go to bed when he wants :-) [05:16] heh, I just assumed he'd been hackign with you :) [05:16] no [05:16] last message from daniels is 07:20 [05:16] which is some time ago [05:16] during the night i have this insane habit to try to sleep [05:16] really ? [05:17] and i don't even succeed === hazmat [~hazmat@j71055.upc-j.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dasenjo [~dasenjo@201.245.164.26] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:26] Hi .. how are you ? [05:26] Im almost a newbie .. but I want to contribute with ubuntu .. [05:26] dasenjo: do you know how to maintain debian packages? [05:27] bob2, a little .. [05:27] bob2, really I dont feel I can mantain XFree or the kernel ... but a web aplicattion or a perl scipt collection .. [05:31] bye. === dasenjo [~dasenjo@201.245.164.26] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Abandonando"] [05:49] I've just made the Xig DexTop CDE 3.0 work with Ubuntu, sweet! [05:49] hehehe cde. [05:50] bob2: I still use CDE, Maya6 and Ubuntu for 3D works, GNOME still leak lots of my resources [05:55] CDE still makes my eyes bleed === ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:02] bob2: can u pls check for me wethere there is any msg 'FATAL: udev' in your demsg?? [06:02] chrisa: can u pls check for me wethere there is any msg 'FATAL: udev' in your demsg?? [06:02] I don't run ubuntu [06:02] hah [06:02] mojo_: none [06:03] bob2: try 'FATAL' [06:03] nada [06:03] bob2: thx, so this is not initscript bug [06:04] bob2: I got a msg after init process bootup, FATAL: udev is alreay mounted in /dev/ [06:04] odd [06:04] bob2: and FATAL: can't find bla blah kernel/hw_char thing [06:05] nothing matching FATAL in my dmesg [06:05] bob2: some msg can't be caught by dmesg, I try to find someway to catch it [06:06] there used to be /var/log/bootlog [06:06] but I can't actually find it in ubuntu [06:07] same here === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-68-92-227-70.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:14] lamont: thank you so much for your help === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-68-92-227-70.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:56] Morning! [08:09] mdz: ping [08:09] hey pitti [08:20] Hi fabbione! === pitti greets the X-Men [08:25] hehe === sid77 [~sid77@host98-44.pool8020.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid77 'morning (it :) [08:42] pitti: morning [08:42] Hi daniels === daniels [daniel@fooishbar.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:02] morning all === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-187.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:27] 'morning === ChrisH yawns [09:30] Hi mvo_ ! [09:30] hi pitti [09:30] good morning :) [09:37] hey Miss Vogt :P === fabbione hides === mvo_ slaps fabbione [09:39] good morning fabbione :) === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-24-131.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:50] morninig pitti ! [09:50] Hi sivang [09:51] hello guys [09:51] mvo_: were you trying to find me yesterday? [09:52] jamesh: yes, I wanted to ask stuff about libglade and toolbars [09:52] mvo_: bug 157215? [09:52] bonjour seb128 [09:52] jamesh: did I reported it? then yes :) [09:53] 'jour sivang :) [09:53] jamesh: hey. So transparent applets will work now ! What was missing exactly before ? [09:55] seb128: I just changed libpanel-applet to handle background changes in an idle handler (instead of in the PropertyBag set_prop handler), and a valid background pixmap was being passed to the applet every time [09:55] jamesh: ok, cool. You rock :) [09:55] whereas before it would sometimes say "I don't like this pixmap ID, so will use the default background" [09:56] ok [09:56] this will be nice for the GNOME 2.10 screenshots :) [10:14] seb128: it seems that my libpanel-applet change doesn't fix the problem, but does significantly reduce how often it occurs [10:15] that mean that sometimes you get a transparent background and sometimes not ? [10:15] with the same code ? [10:18] occasionally the background pixmap ID the panel passes to the applets seems to be invalid [10:19] (most likely because the panel has already deleted it and changed to something else) [10:19] seb128: btw, the metacity-weird-spinning-cursor-with-xterm thing is reproducible here [10:19] in those cases, you end up with the applet will go back to the default background [10:19] seb128: and metacity doesn't start at all per default, i need to start it from a terminal [10:19] seb128: does the version of metacity we ship have a built-in compositing manager? [10:20] jamesh: hum ok [10:21] daniels: yes, metacity has a composite manager [10:21] seb128: phat [10:21] daniels: but the package is built without it [10:21] Not building compositing manager by default now, must enable explicitly to get it. And it doesn't work, so don't bother unless you want to hack on it... [10:21] Building without compositing manager [10:22] ah, ok [10:22] well, when it becomes useful, you'll probably want to start building it [10:22] for the meantime, I'll just make up an xcompmgr package [10:22] ok [10:22] i'm interested in getting seriously wide testing on composite and seeing whether or not it's worth enabling per default (i.e. slow/buggy?) [10:23] BTW you're the first to report a problem about metacity not starting with the session [10:23] that's weird [10:23] yeah, you're telling me ;) [10:23] seb128: he probably just doesn't know how to run X properly [10:24] thom: I think so yeah [10:24] thom: maybe it died in the arse under the load of ten thousand NetworkManager dialogs [10:24] thom: what about the firefox-dev package ? Lot of work ? [10:25] thom: (btw, the firefox back/forward button hackery involved hacking gdk) [10:27] what sort of hackey? [10:28] jamesh: just getting it to understand back and forward key sequences and dealing with history thusly (i.e. same way as horizontal scrolling) [10:28] (on that note, if vertical scrolling is the z-axis, what's horizontal scrolling? the axis? the axis?) [10:28] seb128: shouldn't be too bad [10:30] thom: has anyone considered asking for permission to use the official firefox branding? [10:31] jamesh: not that i'm aware of === trukulo [~mzarza@26.Red-81-45-239.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:37] fabbione, i've got here uniform of rogue, if you want it... [10:39] ahhaa [10:39] i don't think anyone wants to see fabbione in that ... [10:39] trukulo: daniels will run away screaming [10:39] that's not good ;) [10:39] LWN claims Ubuntu 4.10 supports the Pegasos-II, did somebody verify that in the meantime? [10:40] fabbione, daniels : are you going to Mataro ? [10:40] because i will go [10:40] trukulo: both of us will be there, yah [10:40] i will be very pleased to see both of you dressed as rogue and jean grey [10:40] lol === lilo [lilo@levin-pdpc.staff.freenode] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lilo looks in [10:41] mako: Ubuntu traffic #9 has http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~mako/ubuntu-traffic/u20041022_09.html as URL, but it says 'Ubuntu Traffic #9 For 2004/10/2' in the title (10/2 vs. 10/22) [10:41] i'm not *@canonical , but i've talked with javier linares and i will go one day to talk with you [10:41] Is it okay if I just edit the Wiki page HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops? I have a Toshiba Tecra 8100 and could provide some updates. [10:42] trukulo: you will recongnize us... [10:42] fabbione, if i don't, i'll ask for you [10:42] we will be the ones with black eyes and most injuries [10:42] and kamion and jdub, i think i've found jdub's pants [10:43] lol [10:43] after users will try to hunt us down [10:43] don't worry, at least it's better than a cake in the face [10:44] so seriously, i wanna go to met you, if you have time perhaps you can explain me what are you going to do in mataro [10:44] ChrisH: yes, feel free to make changes on the wiki [10:44] seb128: ok [10:45] trukulo: we will be probably fixing bugs on X.org & Co. [10:46] fabbione, will you have time for a coffe? [10:46] trukulo: nope, just beer. [10:47] Mithrandir, umm, i think i can sacrifice and have a beer too [10:47] :) [10:47] iced tea is good also [10:47] trukulo: bugsquashing, handwaving about future plans [10:47] hacking like crazy :) [10:48] well, i'm not a programmer, but perhaps you need a bad BOFH there [10:49] hmmmm....I mostly stopped by because I noticed you folks were having a conference on in the beginning of December....I wanted to make sure you let us know if you needed anything === lilo is not sure who to talk to [10:49] lilo: jdub or mdz, I'd guess. [10:49] kay [10:50] also, as behind as we are on processing them, you may want to file a group contact form if you haven't already....would they be the people to talk to about that as well? [10:50] (it'd be whoever would be considered "official contacts") [10:50] trukulo: we will find the time for everybody hopefully [10:51] trukulo: i don't make any kind of promises but i will be there for sure [10:51] and yes.. [10:51] BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER! [10:51] a lot :-) [10:51] hehe [10:51] fabbione, lol, yes, i know that it's very difficult to talk with everybody [10:51] i'll kidnape you, don't worry [10:51] lilo: I guess so, yes. [10:51] kay...thanks! === sid77_away [~sid77@host100-44.pool8020.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:54] lilo: jdub is the best point man in terms of setting up a group contact for ubuntu [10:55] daniels: kay, sounds good [10:55] lilo: as for the conference, we should be fine in terms of infrastructure, but thanks [10:55] daniels: mostly I just want to make sure that if you need anything on the fly, you know to check with us [10:55] daniels: higher user limits on some NAT IP, etc. [10:55] yeah [10:55] yeah, if we need higher per-IP limits, I'll ask again [10:56] (ran into that problem in August) [10:56] yeah, we do need to keep those pretty limited normally due to kiddie problems, the limits in turn can create issues [10:57] I'll try to get hold of jdub about the group contact thing [10:57] I've been noticing you guys a lot lately, you've been very busy, I wanted to touch base :) === seb128_ [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-39-233.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:57] lilo: don't worry too much... we might as well keep the conference on oftc === fabbione hides [10:58] fabbione: eek 8) [10:58] lilo: wouldn't be easier for you guys if we setup a local server and link from that one? [10:59] atleast all the conference people will not die on netsplits [10:59] fabbione: well, we can do that if you guys want to [11:00] fabbione: happy to set something up [11:00] lilo: we can take a look to it after we will know the available infrastructure setup down there [11:00] lilo: last time we had an internal IRC server because we had a staggeringly reliable connection, but if you're happy to have us set up a leaf, we might do that [11:00] sounds good [11:00] lilo: perhaps you can prepare a server config "freenode" approved for such task [11:00] so that we need to minimize intrusion in the netwoek [11:01] just as long as it's not going to be taken down by someone doing OPERWALL, umode -o, or whatever [11:01] s/need/can [11:01] well, usually we just request an account and set the thing up as a normal server [11:02] then it gets routing configuration updates along with everybody else [11:02] lilo: well.. isn't better than someone really experienced provides us a tested configuration? [11:03] unfortunately on an internal LAN, we'd be uncomfortable about the security issues of providing accounts === lilo nods [11:03] well, maybe we can work something out that will do the job [11:04] daniels: we could put it on a separate host which is only allowed to speak irc through the net. [11:04] what would the system requirements for such a system be? [11:04] Mithrandir: p100 [11:04] lilo: the problem is if we are behind NAT [11:04] lilo: we might not have control over the firewall [11:04] lilo: if you guys are comfortable with it, I'm quite comfortable administering dancer [11:05] lilo: but this is all hypothetical, so we'll cross that bridge if/when we come to it [11:05] daniels: should be doable [11:05] I can bring spare HW, and I can set up a VPN of some sort home to. [11:05] lilo: phat [11:06] s/to// === robtaylor|away is now known as robtaylor === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:19] seb128: if i was starting from 1 Jan 2004.. there is lifeless that prefers to jump back to year 1004 ;) [11:20] heh, someone just pointed out http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+debian to me [11:20] fabbione: ah ah :) [11:25] mdz: please import #251386 [11:38] pitti: here ? [11:38] seb128: yes [11:38] you've seen the changes in the groupes/privileges stuff in gst ? [11:39] I don't really like the new system, you can't make manual tweaking for stuff not listed ... and you don't have the details on the list items neither [11:41] seb128: hmm, actually I think the new design is slightly better [11:41] pitti: BTW I don't have #3230 here, the "gksudo users-admin" menu entry still works fine ... you sure you didn't make typo error in your password or something ? [11:41] seb128: at least it was easy to add our plugdev/scanner groups [11:41] yes, I tried it maybe ten times :-) [11:41] BTW, it still worked yesterday [11:41] but now, after a reboot, it doesn't any more [11:41] weird weird weird [11:41] did you reboot? [11:41] yes [11:41] odd [11:42] my computer is down when I sleep [11:42] mine too [11:42] and I've slept this night :) [11:42] the authentication system got even more complicated [11:42] and I currently don't know how to set default privileges for newly created users only in the users-conf script [11:42] gksudo works with other stuff on your box ? [11:43] but I can't test this as long as I'm bothered with this su stuff [11:43] btw, I also tried at the console with "sudo users-admin" [11:43] preauthenticated, i. e. without password [11:43] same problem [11:44] no problem with sudo here [11:44] I've just tried === pitti scratches his head === seb128 too [11:44] The odd thing is that it worked yesterday [11:44] but not after today's dist-upgrade... === seb128 dist-upgrade [11:45] dictionaries-common libexif-dev libexif10 libraptor1 libruby1.8 lvm2 [11:45] mysql-common ruby1.8 synaptic [11:45] nothing that could be problematic in this imho [11:45] still ok after the dist-upgrade ... [11:46] you have changed your PATH or something ? [11:46] seb128: I have 1.1.0-0ubuntu1 [11:46] not really [11:46] ii gnome-system-t 1.1.0-0ubuntu1 Cross-platform configuration utilities for G [11:46] seb128: whereis users-admin is correct [11:46] seb128: I also tried in the built source [11:47] seb128: I try to log out and back in [11:47] <|trey|> Permission to put the Java source I use in Wiki commented out? (plus explaination) [11:48] |trey|, denied (lol) [11:48] <|trey|> trukulo, what? why :( [11:48] it's a joke === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] <|trey|> 8) [11:48] seb128: still same problem... [11:48] it's a wiki, do it, that's what a wiki is for [11:49] pitti: dunno what could be wrong .... [11:49] seb128: I dig into this. [11:49] <|trey|> (deb http://jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian/ ./ - the source...) [11:49] pitti: ok, let me know if you find something [11:50] pitti: does "sudo su -c /usr/bin/time-admin" works ? [11:51] lamont: fwiw, coreutils is ftbfs on my buildd here [11:51] seb128: I think I know what's wrong [11:51] oh ? [11:51] seb128: I modified users-conf and this thing somehow does not like my debugging statements [11:51] seb128: so, my fault :-) [11:51] ok === robtaylor [~robtaylor@217.204.121.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bob2 [rob@bob2.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mitario wakes up [12:04] hi all [12:04] morning Mitario === mojo_ [~mojo@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === nmf [~nmf@adsl-b4-69-103.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:22] <|trey|> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary Changes to Hoary sources.list ok? [12:24] mjg59: I have two Toshiba notebooks. Do you need help in testing/debugging? The Tecra seems to have some trouble still (sound, power management etc.). === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] ChrisH: That would be good [12:24] ChrisH: I'll be building test packages at the weekend, if you're interested? [12:24] mjg59: Sure. [12:24] <|trey|> Note entirely sure if I should be telling them HOW to do it? :o [12:25] <|trey|> not* [12:25] ChrisH: I'll be looking at power management first, since that's the biggest issue === |trey| is just making sure he doesn't get in trouble he thinks :) [12:26] mjg59: Right. Not being able to suspend/hiberate is a problem. :) That used to work when I had Debian on it. [12:28] mjg59: I don't know if that's related. But during boot I get messages like "modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting pciehp" and "...shpchp"... :Operation not permitted [12:28] ChrisH: Yeah, that's unrelated [12:28] Mithrandir: any eta for 3032? [12:28] Mithrandir: if so.. would you mind to take care of 2872 too? [12:28] ChrisH: It's likely that under Debian you were using APM rather than acpi - if you add apm to the end of /etc/modules and boot with acpi=off things might work better [12:29] mjg59: Ah. I'll try. [12:29] mjg59: btw, the boot phase is delayed during ntp sync when there is no network connection. perhaps this could be improved. [12:29] ChrisH: Yeah, that ought to be better in Hoary === Todd_MA_1975 [~todd@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:31] fabbione: yes, I'll take 2872 as well. === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] Mithrandir: thanks === Todd_MA_1975 [~todd@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Todd_MA_1975 [~todd@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] Mithrandir: btw... just finished to build x.org debs for amd64 :-) [12:32] fabbione: woo :) [12:32] next one is ppc [12:33] yeah [12:33] waiting that :) [12:33] fabbione: When do we get the sweet, sweet crack? [12:33] mjg59: pretty soon [12:34] soon enough, young jedi [12:34] you must be patient to fully appreciate the way of the x [12:34] padawan [12:34] ObiWan [12:34] Kamion: in use, apparently [12:34]