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| === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by ChrisH at Thu Nov 4 14:45:51 2004 | ||
| ChrisH | plovs: rst2xml? Interesting. I fear I need to learn python before though. :) | 12:42 |
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| ChrisH | sivang: Yes... complete luxuary. 7 hours of sleep. Hooray! | 12:42 |
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| fabbione | there.. it's done | 12:43 |
| fabbione | have fun | 12:43 |
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| sivang | we have our own log now! | 12:44 |
| sivang | Horray for Fabbione | 12:44 |
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| ChrisH | Where are the logs? Because I had modified an IRC bot a few weeks ago to log everything into a database. So everyone could query what was happening when. But if there is already a working solution... | 12:56 |
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| plovs_work | ChrisH, an irc bot with mysql or something? | 01:50 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Yes. I start a "chrisbot" some time ago when I learned how to use POE (perl object environment). | 01:51 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: I'm just testing the bot so we have redundancy. :) | 01:51 |
| plovs_work | that would be nice, and then a web frontend to the database? | 01:51 |
| WW | plovs_work: Hi there | 01:51 |
| plovs_work | WW, hi | 01:52 |
| WW | plovs_work: What's the latest on macros (or something equivalent) in the wiki? Anything new? | 01:52 |
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| ChrisH | WW: hi | 01:53 |
| WW | ChrisH: Hi ChrisH | 01:53 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: a tiny gui to the database (currently improving it a little): http://workaround.org/irc | 01:53 |
| plovs_work | :-) (smiling for the camera) | 01:56 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, neat! | 01:57 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: And real time. :) | 01:57 |
| WW | ChrisH: Hey, that thing is live?! Cool. | 01:57 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: At least as long as mentors.debian.net is working because that's where the script lives on. :) | 01:57 |
| ChrisH | WW: Yes. I'm surprised, too, that it works. :) | 01:58 |
| plovs_work | and you log to mysql? | 01:58 |
| ChrisH | Yep. | 01:58 |
| ChrisH | Haven't yet switched to postgresql on that machine. | 01:58 |
| plovs_work | thinking about a search-thingie? | 01:59 |
| ChrisH | Yes. By text, by nick... It can even log multiple channels. | 01:59 |
| ChrisH | There are just some to do's left like auto-rejoin on server failure etc. | 01:59 |
| plovs_work | so...you might add #ubuntu #ubuntu-devel? | 02:00 |
| === ChrisH is https://www.ubuntulinux.org/portal_memberdata/portraits/490 | ||
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| ChrisH | Just joined all three channels. :) | 02:01 |
| WW | ChrisH: Does it print "[names] -: ..." every time someone enters the room? | 02:01 |
| ChrisH | WW: I think it just does that when it enters the channel itself. | 02:02 |
| plovs_work | how did you get to https://www.ubuntulinux.org/portal_memberdata/portraits/490 ? | 02:02 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Set it in my "personal preferences" i my wiki account | 02:02 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: I just don't know how I can use that portrait. | 02:03 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Took a shot with my digicam yesterday evening and gimp'ed it. :) | 02:03 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: My wife was looking a little confused when I started to smile for nothing and took photos of myself. | 02:03 |
| plovs_work | ah, well you can add it to your "home page" | 02:03 |
| plovs_work | smiling at your computer, well women who marry geeks must be used to something | 02:04 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, btw you have great postfix stuff | 02:06 |
| ChrisH | Thanks. Took a while. :) But it's really nice. I worked on the new tutorials for three weeks during my holidays. And now I'm getting mails about that nearly every day. | 02:07 |
| ChrisH | Writing correct technical documentation can become very time consuming. | 02:07 |
| ChrisH | Ask the people who have offered to translate the documents. They are still on it. | 02:07 |
| plovs_work | postfix is the easiest of mail-servers i think but that does not make it simple, great job. | 02:08 |
| plovs_work | the only thing i have not been able to do (and i even bought the book) is having a white-list of users allowed to send mail | 02:08 |
| plovs_work | it is in the faq, but without answer :( | 02:09 |
| ChrisH | Are you restricting who is allowed to send mail from your internal network? | 02:09 |
| plovs_work | well, not yet | 02:09 |
| plovs_work | we have two networks, an internal one, and an 'external one' | 02:09 |
| plovs_work | everybody can sent mail from the external one | 02:10 |
| plovs_work | but the internal is highly restrictive | 02:10 |
| plovs_work | at least it is supposed to be | 02:10 |
| plovs_work | the good thing is: one virus in seven (!) years | 02:10 |
| ChrisH | I recently wiped away my virus directory. 3000 mails in half a year. Yowser! | 02:11 |
| plovs_work | i meant one went in, off course there is plenty left | 02:11 |
| plovs_work | i am going to redo the network, the coming months, i might use your howto for woody | 02:12 |
| ChrisH | Just ask if you need help on the config. I think I could help. | 02:12 |
| plovs_work | nice! | 02:13 |
| plovs_work | i use MailScanner atm, with postfix 2.0 backport and amavis | 02:13 |
| plovs_work | but it is all spagetti now and i want to do it right(tm) without backports, only debian stable | 02:14 |
| ChrisH | Are you running the server on Ubuntu? Because I tend to keep Debian on the servers and just use Ubuntu on the workstations. | 02:14 |
| ChrisH | Qustion answered. :) | 02:14 |
| plovs_work | woody+backports.org | 02:14 |
| plovs_work | i love ubuntu, but am not yet willing to risk my job with it | 02:15 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, do you use apt-proxy? | 02:17 |
| ChrisH | I did. But at home I just have Debian for my wife and me (server is Woody). | 02:19 |
| ChrisH | At work I have set up a complete debian mirror. Nice updating systems through 100 Mbps. :) | 02:19 |
| ChrisH | apt-proxy is darn slow. :( | 02:19 |
| plovs_work | i would like to get apt-proxy working for ubuntu as well | 02:19 |
| plovs_work | a mirror would be too havy, we have 4 ubuntu-boxes now | 02:20 |
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| plovs_work | and 4 in the other network | 02:20 |
| ChrisH | Probably. I converted my whole sysadmin department to Debian. :) Plus we have 10-15 servers in the computer rooms running Woody and Sarge. It's probably the same traffic to the mirrors but we are saving time. | 02:21 |
| plovs_work | 10-15 is nice, i have 5 servers running woody/sarge,2 bsd firewalls, rest all w2k | 02:22 |
| plovs_work | the interisting thing is that only the windows servers require maintenance | 02:24 |
| ChrisH | Get a SUS server. :) | 02:30 |
| plovs_work | yes, that is the plan, but i need one more server to do so | 02:59 |
| plovs_work | and test it off course etc | 02:59 |
| plovs_work | my internal compuetrs have not been updated for over a year now :-( ,but i hate windows updating by hand | 03:00 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, the bot is down! mayday! | 03:01 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Yes, had to fix a bug. | 03:02 |
| === ChrisH summons the powers of the logbot... | ||
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| plovs_work | nice new name | 03:02 |
| ChrisH | Old name. :) | 03:02 |
| plovs_work | ah, you are not ubuntulog, need to clean my glasses | 03:03 |
| ChrisH | Perhaps ubuntulog is what fabbione provides. | 03:07 |
| plovs_work | 'spose so | 03:08 |
| plovs_work | ok, off to hang out with the friends, see you! | 03:09 |
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| hornbeck | hello | 03:12 |
| ChrisH | hornbeck: hi | 03:12 |
| hornbeck | hows things this morning | 03:12 |
| ChrisH | hornbeck: morning? Well, that's relative. :) | 03:12 |
| hornbeck | well morning for me | 03:13 |
| hornbeck | night more than likly for you | 03:13 |
| ChrisH | hornbeck: Am playing with my realtime irc logger. | 03:13 |
| ChrisH | Nah... 15:13 here. | 03:13 |
| hornbeck | ahh, so afternoon | 03:13 |
| ChrisH | Nothing to do at work so I'm working on my docbook tutorial and on that very irc bot. | 03:13 |
| hornbeck | realtime irc logger huh, sounds interesting | 03:13 |
| ChrisH | Beta: http://workaround.org/irc | 03:13 |
| hornbeck | ohhh docbook tutorial | 03:14 |
| hornbeck | man that is nice, what is that written in? | 03:14 |
| ChrisH | In fact the tutorial is 90% done. But I seem to lack some knowledge of the ReST wiki language. | 03:14 |
| hornbeck | I can help with the ReST part if you want | 03:14 |
| ChrisH | The bot is a Perl bot using the POE environment. The web interface is a PHP 10-liner. I'm currently beautifying it. :) | 03:15 |
| hornbeck | man that is nice | 03:15 |
| hornbeck | good job | 03:15 |
| ChrisH | hornbeck: plovs already gave me a link. Just need to read a little I suppose. | 03:15 |
| hornbeck | ok, thats cool | 03:15 |
| ChrisH | Thanks. I'm in the mood for something useless and redundant. :) | 03:15 |
| hornbeck | useless and redundant huh, sounds like you are having way to much fun | 03:18 |
| plovs_work | hornbeck, hi! | 03:24 |
| plovs_work | i hate summertime | 03:24 |
| plovs_work | when it's wintertime | 03:24 |
| plovs_work | i was wondering why i was the first to leavem usually i'm the last | 03:24 |
| hornbeck | hey plovs | 03:24 |
| hornbeck | its amazing how one part of the wiki says "You are now logged in" when the other part says "Log in" | 03:26 |
| hornbeck | I really hate how this new wiki screws up alot | 03:26 |
| ChrisH | Did you notice that sometimes the wiki (especially the login procedure) is very slow? Or is it just me? | 03:27 |
| hornbeck | yes it is | 03:27 |
| hornbeck | right now it will not let me edit my beagle page | 03:27 |
| hornbeck | hey plovs_work how do you change the size of picture in the wiki | 03:30 |
| hornbeck | my beagle icon is real big on your icon page | 03:30 |
| hornbeck | crap, I gotta run, later guys | 03:31 |
| plovs_work | if you get "You are now logged in" when the other part says "Log in" relaod the page | 03:49 |
| plovs_work | with shift | 03:49 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, can you make the web-page automatically update itself? | 03:49 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: sounds like your cache is faulty. you aren't using the IE, are you? | 03:49 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: yes... :) | 03:50 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: my current work: http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc | 03:50 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, you know i have a simple taste: instant gratification, great! | 03:51 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: ;) | 03:51 |
| plovs_work | i use firefox, and everybody has this problem ... really weird | 03:52 |
| ChrisH | I had that once, too. You better tell it to "reload the page on every request" instead of its automatic mode. | 03:52 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, how do i do that? | 04:02 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Hmm. Looks like Firefox has no setting for that. Try setting the cache to 0. | 04:03 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, that's not funny either... | 04:04 |
| plovs_work | they should just fix the site | 04:04 |
| plovs_work | ok, see you later... | 04:05 |
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| sivang | So, anything new everybody? | 07:48 |
| sivang | I've seen rather lots of traffic went here :) | 07:48 |
| ChrisH | The docbook-xml article is nearly done in raw format. I need to wiki it. | 07:50 |
| sivang | great! | 07:50 |
| sivang | this will be the first doc team docbook xml primer | 07:50 |
| sivang | :) | 07:50 |
| sivang | we really needed that. | 07:51 |
| ChrisH | It's just a "Getting started" guide. I intend to add information on custom stylesheets, output formats and the like during the weekend. | 07:52 |
| sivang | great.I will shortly follow it, I had already started with docbook xml but found most of the resources assume too much knowledge in it already. | 07:52 |
| ChrisH | I hope I can ask you for help in case Wiki starts to hate me. :) | 07:53 |
| sivang | yes ofcourse. | 07:54 |
| sivang | I've got used to it by now, although do not know if it's worth of studying RST, I think I would instead go straight for DocBook XML :) | 07:54 |
| sivang | althouh the pythin script that converts it looks very nice | 07:54 |
| sivang | btw, the weblog of the channel looks exquisite | 07:55 |
| sivang | how did you do that? | 07:55 |
| ChrisH | Advanced magic. | 07:56 |
| sivang | hmm, ok, and now for some juicy details ?:) | 07:57 |
| ChrisH | Two parts. One is a Perl script I call "logbot". It uses POE::Components::IRC and is an automated IRC client that sniffs different channels and keeps track who is where. | 07:58 |
| ChrisH | The log lines are written into a MySQL database. The second part is a Perl script that get the needed information from the database. | 07:58 |
| ChrisH | I had an IRC bot half ready. And as work today was boring I decided to make it a log bot. ;) | 07:58 |
| sivang | coool | 08:08 |
| sivang | ChrisH : when I asked from canonical to set us a log , I wasn't aware that you already set it up BTW | 08:18 |
| ChrisH | sivang: fabbione? | 08:20 |
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| sivang | ChrisH : yes | 08:27 |
| sivang | yo pl0vs | 08:27 |
| ChrisH | sivang: I wasn't fast enough. He popped in and did something. I was about to ask if someone would be interested in my solution. | 08:29 |
| ChrisH | sivang: where is his log? | 08:29 |
| sivang | ChrisH : I am not sure, I don't think it would be a problem for you to handle this , you would just need the proper access to the official website or archives, | 08:29 |
| sivang | wwhy don't you discuss this with him? | 08:29 |
| ChrisH | sivang: I do | 08:30 |
| pl0vs | hi huys! | 08:30 |
| sivang | hey alex, how you been ? | 08:30 |
| pl0vs | great, just been to the movies | 08:30 |
| sivang | yeah? which movie did you see? | 08:31 |
| pl0vs | arthur, hadn\t seen it and it was in the re=run cinema, really cheap | 08:31 |
| sivang | nice, you said you live in the netherlands right? | 08:31 |
| pl0vs | i was born in the netherlands, and spent my youth there, now i live in latvia | 08:32 |
| pl0vs | ChrisH, what was the backlog address again, can you maybe put it in the topic? | 08:34 |
| ChrisH | pl0vs: sure | 08:35 |
| sivang | pl0vs : the log chrisH had setup is very cool | 08:35 |
| === mode/#ubuntu-doc [+o ChrisH] by ChanServ | ||
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:ChrisH] : Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc | ||
| === mode/#ubuntu-doc [-o ChrisH] by ChrisH | ||
| pl0vs | ChrisH, how can i see the backlog? | 08:41 |
| ChrisH | pl0vs: just use the url | 08:42 |
| sivang | http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc | 08:42 |
| sivang | ^-- pl0vs | 08:42 |
| sivang | it's real nice | 08:42 |
| pl0vs | yes but back in time | 08:42 |
| pl0vs | not the last 100 but before that | 08:43 |
| ChrisH | I had to clear the logs two hours ago due to some bugs. :) | 08:43 |
| pl0vs | sivang, i saw that you moved the teams, great work | 08:52 |
| pl0vs | btw i got an ok from jimmac to use his icons on the wiki, he makes really nice stuff | 08:56 |
| sivang | great | 09:06 |
| sivang | pl0vs : sorry, I didn't move them yet - but I'll have it by end of weekend, I was unfourtanetly busy with physical world stuff.. | 09:09 |
| sivang | pl0vs : I guess what we see there was already there. | 09:09 |
| sivang | do you have a link? | 09:09 |
| === sivang is going and will be back tommorow. | ||
| sivang | night meanwhile , all | 09:12 |
| pl0vs | sivang, a link of what, the icons? it's in the doclist | 09:12 |
| pl0vs | sivang, night! | 09:13 |
| ChrisH | sivang: nite | 09:15 |
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| === ChrisH is still testing the botlog | ||
| pl0vs | ChrisH, keep on testing! | 10:38 |
| ChrisH | That action was just for the logs. :) I forgot to implement "/me" actions. :) | 10:38 |
| pl0vs | :) | 10:48 |
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