=== warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by ChrisH at Thu Nov 4 14:45:51 2004 [12:42] plovs: rst2xml? Interesting. I fear I need to learn python before though. :) [12:42] sivang: Yes... complete luxuary. 7 hours of sleep. Hooray! === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:43] there.. it's done [12:43] have fun === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [12:44] we have our own log now! [12:44] Horray for Fabbione === sivang went to make something to eat. [12:56] Where are the logs? Because I had modified an IRC bot a few weeks ago to log everything into a database. So everyone could query what was happening when. But if there is already a working solution... === WW [~wweckesse@67-138-158-137.dsl1.nor.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:50] ChrisH, an irc bot with mysql or something? [01:51] plovs_work: Yes. I start a "chrisbot" some time ago when I learned how to use POE (perl object environment). [01:51] plovs_work: I'm just testing the bot so we have redundancy. :) [01:51] that would be nice, and then a web frontend to the database? [01:51] plovs_work: Hi there [01:52] WW, hi [01:52] plovs_work: What's the latest on macros (or something equivalent) in the wiki? Anything new? === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:53] WW: hi [01:53] ChrisH: Hi ChrisH [01:53] plovs_work: a tiny gui to the database (currently improving it a little): http://workaround.org/irc [01:56] :-) (smiling for the camera) [01:57] ChrisH, neat! [01:57] plovs_work: And real time. :) [01:57] ChrisH: Hey, that thing is live?! Cool. [01:57] plovs_work: At least as long as mentors.debian.net is working because that's where the script lives on. :) [01:58] WW: Yes. I'm surprised, too, that it works. :) [01:58] and you log to mysql? [01:58] Yep. [01:58] Haven't yet switched to postgresql on that machine. [01:59] thinking about a search-thingie? [01:59] Yes. By text, by nick... It can even log multiple channels. [01:59] There are just some to do's left like auto-rejoin on server failure etc. [02:00] so...you might add #ubuntu #ubuntu-devel? === ChrisH is https://www.ubuntulinux.org/portal_memberdata/portraits/490 === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:01] Just joined all three channels. :) [02:01] ChrisH: Does it print "[names] -: ..." every time someone enters the room? [02:02] WW: I think it just does that when it enters the channel itself. [02:02] how did you get to https://www.ubuntulinux.org/portal_memberdata/portraits/490 ? [02:02] plovs_work: Set it in my "personal preferences" i my wiki account [02:03] plovs_work: I just don't know how I can use that portrait. [02:03] plovs_work: Took a shot with my digicam yesterday evening and gimp'ed it. :) [02:03] plovs_work: My wife was looking a little confused when I started to smile for nothing and took photos of myself. [02:03] ah, well you can add it to your "home page" [02:04] smiling at your computer, well women who marry geeks must be used to something [02:06] ChrisH, btw you have great postfix stuff [02:07] Thanks. Took a while. :) But it's really nice. I worked on the new tutorials for three weeks during my holidays. And now I'm getting mails about that nearly every day. [02:07] Writing correct technical documentation can become very time consuming. [02:07] Ask the people who have offered to translate the documents. They are still on it. [02:08] postfix is the easiest of mail-servers i think but that does not make it simple, great job. [02:08] the only thing i have not been able to do (and i even bought the book) is having a white-list of users allowed to send mail [02:09] it is in the faq, but without answer :( [02:09] Are you restricting who is allowed to send mail from your internal network? [02:09] well, not yet [02:09] we have two networks, an internal one, and an 'external one' [02:10] everybody can sent mail from the external one [02:10] but the internal is highly restrictive [02:10] at least it is supposed to be [02:10] the good thing is: one virus in seven (!) years [02:11] I recently wiped away my virus directory. 3000 mails in half a year. Yowser! [02:11] i meant one went in, off course there is plenty left [02:12] i am going to redo the network, the coming months, i might use your howto for woody [02:12] Just ask if you need help on the config. I think I could help. [02:13] nice! [02:13] i use MailScanner atm, with postfix 2.0 backport and amavis [02:14] but it is all spagetti now and i want to do it right(tm) without backports, only debian stable [02:14] Are you running the server on Ubuntu? Because I tend to keep Debian on the servers and just use Ubuntu on the workstations. [02:14] Qustion answered. :) [02:14] woody+backports.org [02:15] i love ubuntu, but am not yet willing to risk my job with it [02:17] ChrisH, do you use apt-proxy? [02:19] I did. But at home I just have Debian for my wife and me (server is Woody). [02:19] At work I have set up a complete debian mirror. Nice updating systems through 100 Mbps. :) [02:19] apt-proxy is darn slow. :( [02:19] i would like to get apt-proxy working for ubuntu as well [02:20] a mirror would be too havy, we have 4 ubuntu-boxes now === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:20] and 4 in the other network [02:21] Probably. I converted my whole sysadmin department to Debian. :) Plus we have 10-15 servers in the computer rooms running Woody and Sarge. It's probably the same traffic to the mirrors but we are saving time. [02:22] 10-15 is nice, i have 5 servers running woody/sarge,2 bsd firewalls, rest all w2k [02:24] the interisting thing is that only the windows servers require maintenance [02:30] Get a SUS server. :) [02:59] yes, that is the plan, but i need one more server to do so [02:59] and test it off course etc [03:00] my internal compuetrs have not been updated for over a year now :-( ,but i hate windows updating by hand [03:01] ChrisH, the bot is down! mayday! [03:02] plovs_work: Yes, had to fix a bug. === ChrisH summons the powers of the logbot... === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:02] nice new name [03:02] Old name. :) [03:03] ah, you are not ubuntulog, need to clean my glasses [03:07] Perhaps ubuntulog is what fabbione provides. [03:08] 'spose so [03:09] ok, off to hang out with the friends, see you! === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-69-153-250-47.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:12] hello [03:12] hornbeck: hi [03:12] hows things this morning [03:12] hornbeck: morning? Well, that's relative. :) [03:13] well morning for me [03:13] night more than likly for you [03:13] hornbeck: Am playing with my realtime irc logger. [03:13] Nah... 15:13 here. [03:13] ahh, so afternoon [03:13] Nothing to do at work so I'm working on my docbook tutorial and on that very irc bot. [03:13] realtime irc logger huh, sounds interesting [03:13] Beta: http://workaround.org/irc [03:14] ohhh docbook tutorial [03:14] man that is nice, what is that written in? [03:14] In fact the tutorial is 90% done. But I seem to lack some knowledge of the ReST wiki language. [03:14] I can help with the ReST part if you want [03:15] The bot is a Perl bot using the POE environment. The web interface is a PHP 10-liner. I'm currently beautifying it. :) [03:15] man that is nice [03:15] good job [03:15] hornbeck: plovs already gave me a link. Just need to read a little I suppose. [03:15] ok, thats cool [03:15] Thanks. I'm in the mood for something useless and redundant. :) [03:18] useless and redundant huh, sounds like you are having way to much fun [03:24] hornbeck, hi! [03:24] i hate summertime [03:24] when it's wintertime [03:24] i was wondering why i was the first to leavem usually i'm the last [03:24] hey plovs [03:26] its amazing how one part of the wiki says "You are now logged in" when the other part says "Log in" [03:26] I really hate how this new wiki screws up alot [03:27] Did you notice that sometimes the wiki (especially the login procedure) is very slow? Or is it just me? [03:27] yes it is [03:27] right now it will not let me edit my beagle page [03:30] hey plovs_work how do you change the size of picture in the wiki [03:30] my beagle icon is real big on your icon page [03:31] crap, I gotta run, later guys [03:49] if you get "You are now logged in" when the other part says "Log in" relaod the page [03:49] with shift [03:49] ChrisH, can you make the web-page automatically update itself? [03:49] plovs_work: sounds like your cache is faulty. you aren't using the IE, are you? [03:50] plovs_work: yes... :) [03:50] plovs_work: my current work: http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc [03:51] ChrisH, you know i have a simple taste: instant gratification, great! [03:51] plovs_work: ;) [03:52] i use firefox, and everybody has this problem ... really weird [03:52] I had that once, too. You better tell it to "reload the page on every request" instead of its automatic mode. [04:02] ChrisH, how do i do that? [04:03] plovs_work: Hmm. Looks like Firefox has no setting for that. Try setting the cache to 0. [04:04] ChrisH, that's not funny either... [04:04] they should just fix the site [04:05] ok, see you later... === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:48] So, anything new everybody? [07:48] I've seen rather lots of traffic went here :) [07:50] The docbook-xml article is nearly done in raw format. I need to wiki it. [07:50] great! [07:50] this will be the first doc team docbook xml primer [07:50] :) [07:51] we really needed that. [07:52] It's just a "Getting started" guide. I intend to add information on custom stylesheets, output formats and the like during the weekend. [07:52] great.I will shortly follow it, I had already started with docbook xml but found most of the resources assume too much knowledge in it already. [07:53] I hope I can ask you for help in case Wiki starts to hate me. :) [07:54] yes ofcourse. [07:54] I've got used to it by now, although do not know if it's worth of studying RST, I think I would instead go straight for DocBook XML :) [07:54] althouh the pythin script that converts it looks very nice [07:55] btw, the weblog of the channel looks exquisite [07:55] how did you do that? [07:56] Advanced magic. [07:57] hmm, ok, and now for some juicy details ?:) [07:58] Two parts. One is a Perl script I call "logbot". It uses POE::Components::IRC and is an automated IRC client that sniffs different channels and keeps track who is where. [07:58] The log lines are written into a MySQL database. The second part is a Perl script that get the needed information from the database. [07:58] I had an IRC bot half ready. And as work today was boring I decided to make it a log bot. ;) [08:08] coool [08:18] ChrisH : when I asked from canonical to set us a log , I wasn't aware that you already set it up BTW [08:20] sivang: fabbione? === pl0vs [~knoppix@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:27] ChrisH : yes [08:27] yo pl0vs [08:29] sivang: I wasn't fast enough. He popped in and did something. I was about to ask if someone would be interested in my solution. [08:29] sivang: where is his log? [08:29] ChrisH : I am not sure, I don't think it would be a problem for you to handle this , you would just need the proper access to the official website or archives, [08:29] wwhy don't you discuss this with him? [08:30] sivang: I do [08:30] hi huys! [08:30] hey alex, how you been ? [08:30] great, just been to the movies [08:31] yeah? which movie did you see? [08:31] arthur, hadn\t seen it and it was in the re=run cinema, really cheap [08:31] nice, you said you live in the netherlands right? [08:32] i was born in the netherlands, and spent my youth there, now i live in latvia [08:34] ChrisH, what was the backlog address again, can you maybe put it in the topic? [08:35] pl0vs: sure [08:35] pl0vs : the log chrisH had setup is very cool === mode/#ubuntu-doc [+o ChrisH] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#ubuntu-doc:ChrisH] : Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc === mode/#ubuntu-doc [-o ChrisH] by ChrisH [08:41] ChrisH, how can i see the backlog? [08:42] pl0vs: just use the url [08:42] http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/irc [08:42] ^-- pl0vs [08:42] it's real nice [08:42] yes but back in time [08:43] not the last 100 but before that [08:43] I had to clear the logs two hours ago due to some bugs. :) [08:52] sivang, i saw that you moved the teams, great work [08:56] btw i got an ok from jimmac to use his icons on the wiki, he makes really nice stuff [09:06] great [09:09] pl0vs : sorry, I didn't move them yet - but I'll have it by end of weekend, I was unfourtanetly busy with physical world stuff.. [09:09] pl0vs : I guess what we see there was already there. [09:09] do you have a link? === sivang is going and will be back tommorow. [09:12] night meanwhile , all [09:12] sivang, a link of what, the icons? it's in the doclist [09:13] sivang, night! [09:15] sivang: nite === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ChrisH is still testing the botlog [10:38] ChrisH, keep on testing! [10:38] That action was just for the logs. :) I forgot to implement "/me" actions. :) [10:48] :)