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| mjg59 | ddaa: Ok, think I've got it | 12:47 |
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| mjg59 | Newer acpi code seems to help | 12:47 |
| mjg59 | Just let me do a couple of checks | 12:47 |
| === ddaa lets mjg59 do a couple of checks | ||
| mjg59 | Gah. | 12:48 |
| mjg59 | No, that's not happy. | 12:49 |
| mjg59 | Oh, now that's very odd | 12:49 |
| mjg59 | The video has come back, but the sleep light is still on | 12:49 |
| mjg59 | Which implies that it's woken stuff up but never called the return from sleep ACPI methods | 12:50 |
| mjg59 | Gah. No, this is irritatingly broken. | 12:53 |
| ddaa | mjg59: I'm turning into a pumpkin | 12:53 |
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| mjg59 | ddaa: Sorry, I'm entirely failing to track down the problem here. | 12:57 |
| ddaa | bah... sleep on it... maybe you'll get new ideas. | 12:58 |
| ddaa | or maybe give me additional instructions to isolate what in hotplug is breaking. | 12:59 |
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| ddaa | In any case, goodnight. | 01:00 |
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| hornbeck | jdub: you around? | 06:55 |
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| lifeless | mdz: ping | 07:18 |
| jdub | hornbeck: yo | 07:34 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu development -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Hoary is here: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2004-October/000005.html | Want to help? see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals | please do NOT upload ubuntu-meta | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by mdz at Sun Nov 7 23:47:21 2004 | ||
| (seb128/#ubuntu-devel) hum | 11:16 | |
| maswan | elmo: We're reducing the frequency of updates for the ftp.acc.umu.se mirror, pending fewer "max connection reached" cron mails. | 11:17 |
| fabbione | xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch | 11:18 |
| fabbione | ahhaha | 11:18 |
| fabbione | that's the patch we were looking for | 11:18 |
| fabbione | to kill the X pattern | 11:18 |
| seb128 | nice name :) | 11:19 |
| maswan | this way, we'll only get it once a day, like all the other cron mails saying something is broken. :) | 11:19 |
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| jdub | seb128: ah no, it's okay | 11:28 |
| seb128 | cool | 11:28 |
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| robtaylor | fabbione: hurrah! at last! | 11:47 |
| fabbione | no it won't be today | 11:48 |
| fabbione | i found a bunch of bugs that need to be fixed before release | 11:48 |
| robtaylor | fabbione: boh. its only a two line chage ;) | 11:49 |
| mojo_ | fabbione: y he cheered up? is it b/c X.org out already???? | 11:49 |
| fabbione | robtaylor: ? | 11:49 |
| fabbione | mojo_: what? | 11:49 |
| robtaylor | fabbione: i was talking about xorg-redhat-die-ugly-pattern-die-die-die.patch | 11:49 |
| robtaylor | <fabbione> ahhaha | 11:49 |
| fabbione | mojo_: please write plain english | 11:49 |
| fabbione | robtaylor: ahh | 11:50 |
| mojo_ | fabbione: I just want to ask when the 1st beta CD of Hoary that contains X.org out? | 11:51 |
| fabbione | mojo_: we need to get X.org into the archive first | 11:51 |
| jdub | mojo_: there won't be a 'beta' until march | 11:51 |
| mojo_ | jdub: thx for the info | 11:51 |
| mojo_ | I and my friends has finished creating pure GNOME theme for Downloader X (d4x), I'm looking forward to seeing some maintainers here to include d4x in next release (I still work on optimizing d4x for Ubuntu) | 11:55 |
| sivang | Is there a current list of bounties for Hoary already? | 12:01 |
| === Kamion turns cdimage's cron.daily back on | ||
| Mithrandir | hi Kamion, how's the head? | 12:15 |
| Kamion | much better now, thanks | 12:15 |
| Mithrandir | good to hear. :) | 12:15 |
| thom | morning folks | 12:17 |
| jdub | morning thom | 12:17 |
| seb128 | hey thom | 12:17 |
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| Mithrandir | thom: if you have any great ideas on why our libc is broken while the one in Debian is fine, I'd be very grateful. | 12:18 |
| Mithrandir | they're built the same way | 12:19 |
| thom | exactly the same? if you build the two packages manually you still get brokenness on our one? | 12:21 |
| thom | something freaky that linker optimisation does? | 12:21 |
| thom | (it seems unlikely, but i thought i'd throw it out there( | 12:21 |
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| Mithrandir | fabbione: please, don't | 12:25 |
| fabbione | well | 12:25 |
| fabbione | foo 1.0 ships /etc/foo.conf | 12:25 |
| fabbione | foo 2.0 ships /etc/foo2.conf | 12:25 |
| jdub | thom: i don't think we do linker optimisation for libc | 12:25 |
| fabbione | the upgrade doesn't remove foo.conf | 12:25 |
| jdub | thom: only gnome packages that do it in debian/rules | 12:25 |
| fabbione | if even foo.conf is not modified | 12:25 |
| Kamion | fabbione: that's a feature | 12:25 |
| Kamion | well, not sure about when it's not modified | 12:26 |
| fabbione | Kamion: it sounds a bug to me | 12:26 |
| fabbione | and i need to workaround it for approx 20 files | 12:26 |
| Kamion | when it's not modified, maybe | 12:26 |
| fabbione | i understand perfectly when it is modified | 12:26 |
| Mithrandir | thom: I'm going to build the pure64 on hoary and see if that helps. | 12:26 |
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| fabbione | soooo now i need to add a shit load of checks into upgrade scripts | 12:27 |
| Kamion | what does it mean when update-mozilla-firefox-chrome tells me "E: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions/installed-extensions.txt still present. Registration might have gone wrong."? | 12:27 |
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| jdub | heh | 12:28 |
| thom | Kamion: that you might have old extensions that haven't registered themselves with 1.0 correctly, i believe | 12:28 |
| fabbione | jdub: you can adopt it now.. so you can split your l33t composite libraries and fix the 200K bugs as well :-) | 12:28 |
| jdub | heh | 12:28 |
| jdub | sweet! | 12:28 |
| === fabbione watches jdub paiting the walls with fresh blood while fighting with Imakefiles | ||
| === pinhead shows jdub the pleasure of pain | ||
| Kamion | thom: the thing is that I'm in the process of converting an old extension *to* 1.0, and this error only started to show up in the middle of the conversion | 12:30 |
| Kamion | I'd kind of like to know what exactly "might have gone wrong" | 12:30 |
| thom | Kamion: oh, right. no idea :/ | 12:32 |
| cenerentola | jdub: have you got time for me..? | 12:36 |
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| cenerentola | kamion: i love you | 12:36 |
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| Kamion | uh, ok | 12:38 |
| cenerentola | sorry but is that difficult to speak with any canonical's related with PR? | 12:41 |
| cenerentola | are you all going to mataro? | 12:41 |
| jdub | everyone in canonical is going to mataro | 12:42 |
| jdub | i'm here now | 12:43 |
| jdub | what can i help you with? | 12:43 |
| cenerentola | ok... | 12:43 |
| cenerentola | as you may not know.. an italian ubuntu community was born | 12:44 |
| cenerentola | las... | 12:44 |
| jdub | you posted about it on the mailing list | 12:44 |
| cenerentola | that was an italian spoken link | 12:44 |
| cenerentola | btw... as you said ive contacted the guys from ubuntuforums.. | 12:45 |
| cenerentola | its all ok for them, the forumll be up in moments.. now what about the mailing list? | 12:45 |
| jdub | it's on the way | 12:45 |
| cenerentola | thx.. now what about translating the website... | 12:46 |
| cenerentola | should i host it on ubuntulinux.it | 12:46 |
| jdub | the ubuntu site is translatable | 12:47 |
| jdub | speak to lulu | 12:47 |
| jdub | about it | 12:47 |
| cenerentola | or that's not necessary, and youre going to host it on ubuntulinux.org | 12:47 |
| cenerentola | mind im not talking about the wiki... ok then | 12:47 |
| cenerentola | what about the cds? | 12:48 |
| jdub | what about them? | 12:48 |
| cenerentola | ive ordered about 90 cds.. for free give-aways | 12:48 |
| cenerentola | during the linux day, nation-wide... | 12:49 |
| cenerentola | but as otherlugs said theyre not enough... | 12:49 |
| lulu | cenerentola: we're looking into linguaplone for the website, but it will be a little while before it's up and running. So, in the interim, we suggest you go ahead and translate, and we can integrate your translation work when it's in place. | 12:49 |
| sivang | lulu : have you checked the credential problem on the CMS ? | 12:52 |
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| lulu | sivang: looking into it :o) | 12:54 |
| Kamion | thom: *sigh* was a one-character mistake in the install.rdf file, url:mozilla:... instead of urn:mozilla:... | 12:55 |
| Kamion | nice of it to give me such a clear error message so that I didn't have to compare it against another install.rdf file line by line to figure out what was wrong, wasn't it? :) | 12:55 |
| thom | Kamion: see my total lack of surprise | 01:02 |
| Kamion | heh | 01:02 |
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| cenerentola | kamion: let me introduce you to the beauties of perl that could do it for you... larry bless | 01:04 |
| Kamion | cenerentola: I'm sorry, but you're making no sense | 01:04 |
| === Kamion <-- already a perl hacker | ||
| Kamion | cenerentola: perl or indeed diff wouldn't have helped, I was comparing the sense of the files not the exact text. | 01:05 |
| cenerentola | kamion: it could tell you what words written in a certain manner did appear in only one file | 01:07 |
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| cenerentola | kamion: that was a joke | 01:08 |
| jdub | thom: so, a funny thing happened when my acpi started working | 01:21 |
| Kamion | ... on the way to the forum | 01:21 |
| thom | jdub: ahr? | 01:22 |
| jdub | thom: i popped my laptop on the dock, closed the lid, and turned to the keyboard/mouse as usual | 01:22 |
| thom | yup? | 01:22 |
| jdub | lock and chvt :-) | 01:22 |
| jdub | uh oh! | 01:22 |
| jdub | :-) | 01:22 |
| jdub | so i've been thinking about an NM-like power management controller | 01:23 |
| Keybuk | tedious, long-winded and a long wait at the end? | 01:24 |
| jdub | also, i can't find a way to figure out if this machine is docked | 01:25 |
| jdub | dmidecode | grep Chassis -A 10 | 01:25 |
| thom | you don't get any events when you dock at all? | 01:25 |
| thom | Keybuk: heh | 01:26 |
| jdub | ^ returns the docking station stanza if i booted docked | 01:26 |
| jdub | well, the USB CD device turns up | 01:26 |
| jdub | but otherwise, no | 01:26 |
| jdub | i'll have to investigate further | 01:26 |
| jdub | though, even if i can find something for this lappy, it's going to be very hard to generalise | 01:26 |
| jdub | (one of the benefits of separate windows drivers is setting policy for the particular hardware, not generalising in the OS) | 01:27 |
| jdub | thom: read nm list recently? | 01:28 |
| thom | jdub: walters VPN stuff? | 01:29 |
| jdub | yeah | 01:29 |
| jdub | "let's redo dhclient!" | 01:29 |
| thom | it's MAJOR crack | 01:29 |
| thom | and typical redhat | 01:29 |
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| thom | sooo, i get an alpha tomorrow | 01:33 |
| Keybuk | heh, what kind? | 01:34 |
| thom | XP1000 | 01:35 |
| thom | 500Mhz ev6 | 01:35 |
| thom | so google tells me | 01:35 |
| jdub | you're collecting heaters? :) | 01:36 |
| cenerentola | jdub: what about the cds then? | 01:36 |
| thom | jdub: i nearly have everything that debian supports bar the silly arches | 01:37 |
| thom | well, if you count mips* as silly, i'll have the lot soon | 01:37 |
| Keybuk | not bad | 01:37 |
| Keybuk | it's just about getting cold enough for me to boot mine up again | 01:37 |
| ChrisH | We (Doc Team) are about to install a repository. Is "arch" the tool to use in Ubuntu? I had intuitively used SVN. Or does it really not matter? :) | 01:40 |
| jdub | cenerentola: the CDs are being distributed this month | 01:41 |
| jdub | cenerentola: please try to keep discussion on channel :) | 01:41 |
| jdub | cenerentola: and be patient for answers | 01:41 |
| cenerentola | <cenerentola> ive ordered about 90 cds.. for free give-aways | 01:41 |
| cenerentola | <cenerentola> during the linux day, nation-wide... | 01:41 |
| cenerentola | <cenerentola> but as otherlugs said theyre not enough... | 01:41 |
| jdub | cenerentola: the CDs are being distributed this month, if other LUGs want to order CDs, they can too | 01:42 |
| cenerentola | they told me to do the job... as they're looking at btlug, as the community center in italy | 01:42 |
| cenerentola | ..since | 01:43 |
| cenerentola | ... | 01:43 |
| jdub | so what's the problem? | 01:44 |
| cenerentola | am i allowed to order more cds? | 01:44 |
| jdub | yes | 01:45 |
| jdub | just go to the site and change your order | 01:45 |
| cenerentola | ok thx | 01:48 |
| fabbione | ok... the config file issue should be solved | 01:48 |
| fabbione | files | 01:49 |
| === fabbione runs another build | ||
| fabbione | cache hit 328529 | 01:50 |
| fabbione | cache miss 19900 | 01:50 |
| fabbione | it's not like i have been speding cpu cycles on anything else :-))) | 01:50 |
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| seb128 | fabbione: I've forgotten to mention it, but since the Xfree -> X.org I get "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib" and "Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers" when I start a GNOME app | 02:01 |
| thom | seb128/fabio: me too | 02:02 |
| seb128 | cool :) | 02:02 |
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| Kamion | jdub: so, given that I've just built the first probably-working Hoary CD set, when do you reckon would be a good target for Array CD 1? | 02:08 |
| jdub | Kamion: so i've been thinking about hoary cds | 02:08 |
| jdub | Kamion: i kinda think it's a bit weird to have announced testing cds so early ;) | 02:09 |
| Kamion | depends on your point of view :) | 02:09 |
| jdub | ;) | 02:09 |
| jdub | making installer changes already? | 02:09 |
| Kamion | (impossible to get installer testing any other way) | 02:10 |
| Kamion | well, I did just do the mass merge from Debian | 02:10 |
| Kamion | and yeah, expect a number of early installer changes | 02:10 |
| jdub | let's just do it then ;) | 02:10 |
| jdub | though probably make the announce blurb scary enough | 02:10 |
| jdub | so that people don't feel that CD availability == 'beta' or encouragement, etc. | 02:11 |
| Kamion | can I put in a request for array cds to be scheduled for Wednesdays this cycle? :) | 02:11 |
| jdub | totally | 02:11 |
| jdub | wednesday is the optimal day | 02:11 |
| Kamion | the sounders being on Monday tended to result in me coming in after the weekend to find they were totally hosed | 02:11 |
| jdub | mmm, they weren't meant to be monday ;) | 02:11 |
| Kamion | after a while, they weren't. :-) | 02:11 |
| Kamion | ok, let's make this Wednesday's cron.daily run be Array CD 1 then | 02:12 |
| jdub | i dunno why i copied the older gnome style calendar | 02:12 |
| jdub | i'll fix that up | 02:12 |
| Kamion | give it a couple of days to settle | 02:12 |
| Kamion | beta> yeah, I set the CD label to "Alpha" | 02:13 |
| Mithrandir | "early crack". :) | 02:13 |
| fabbione | seb128, thom: i always got that message since X4.1.0 | 02:13 |
| fabbione | if you can figure out what is wrong it would be cool | 02:14 |
| seb128 | ok | 02:14 |
| Kamion | jdub: (historically, the two-week CD cycle has been pretty good at making me get off my arse and finish my current round of changes, too :)) | 02:14 |
| jdub | :-) | 02:14 |
| thom | elmo: please sync wireless-tools from unstable | 02:19 |
| fabbione | elmo: please sync apache from unstable | 02:20 |
| fabbione | apache1.3 | 02:20 |
| seb128 | elmo: please sync gnumeric 1.3.93 from experimental | 02:21 |
| fabbione | elmo: please xorg from fd.o | 02:21 |
| fabbione | ;) | 02:21 |
| jdub | haha | 02:21 |
| seb128 | oups, gnumeric 1.3.93 is in unstable | 02:22 |
| seb128 | but still, need a sync | 02:22 |
| doko | mithrandir: could you solve your glibc build problem? | 02:35 |
| Mithrandir | doko: nope :/ | 02:36 |
| Mithrandir | doko: the problem goes away if I turn off TLS | 02:37 |
| Kamion | seb128: any news on that fam/gamin thing in libgnomevfs2-common? | 02:37 |
| seb128 | gnome-vfs2 (2.8.3-0ubuntu3) hoary; urgency=low | 02:38 |
| seb128 | * debian/control.in: | 02:38 |
| seb128 | - Build-Depends on libgamin-dev | libfam-dev. | 02:38 |
| seb128 | installed here | 02:38 |
| seb128 | I've forgotten to upload ? | 02:38 |
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| Kamion | could be, dunno, just looking at germinate output | 02:39 |
| seb128 | Kamion: I was probably waiting to restart a session with the new package to be sure that all is ok | 02:39 |
| Kamion | ah | 02:39 |
| seb128 | Kamion: uploading now | 02:39 |
| jdub | seb128: i've been using gamin on warty for ages now, btw :) | 02:40 |
| Kamion | I'll go fix libwvstreams3-base now | 02:40 |
| doko | mithrandir: did you prepare a new ia32-libs-openoffice.org package, or can I upload one without lib32gcc1 when I update to the new gcc-3.4.3 package? | 02:41 |
| Mithrandir | doko: no, I haven't done it. | 02:41 |
| Mithrandir | so please upload a new one in sync | 02:41 |
| fabbione | doko, Mithrandir: is it normal that gcc fails all the test suite and still considered to build fine? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | FAIL: gcc.c-torture/compile/20000504-1.c, -O3 -g | 02:44 |
| fabbione | i see pages and pages of stuff like this | 02:44 |
| doko | which architecture? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | sparc | 02:44 |
| doko | 3.3, 3.4, snapshot? | 02:44 |
| fabbione | 3.3 | 02:44 |
| doko | on the buiildd? | 02:45 |
| fabbione | yes | 02:45 |
| doko | 20001226 is the only testcase that fails at http://buildd.debian.org/fetch.php?&pkg=gcc-3.3&ver=1%3A3.3.5-2&arch=sparc&stamp=1098710590&file=log&as=raw | 02:48 |
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| fabbione | hmm weird | 02:49 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: I don't know anything about gcc. :) | 02:50 |
| fabbione | ok cool | 02:51 |
| fabbione | config file transition is ok | 02:51 |
| fabbione | people might have to merge manually if they did some modifications, but that's how it is | 02:52 |
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| doko | fabbione: are you working on a sparc port? | 02:53 |
| doko | daniel alone in Copenhagen, part II? | 02:53 |
| fabbione | doko: yes to the sparc port | 02:55 |
| fabbione | daniel was very very ill this morning | 02:55 |
| fabbione | he wrote me in pvt "brb" | 02:55 |
| Kamion | ouch :( | 02:55 |
| fabbione | and he didn't come back anymore | 02:55 |
| Mithrandir | ew | 02:55 |
| fabbione | i think he has been hitted by danish primes ;) | 02:55 |
| Kamion | hang on, I thought you guys were in the same building? | 02:55 |
| fabbione | i might have to go and take a look if he doesn't resurrect within dinner time | 02:55 |
| fabbione | Kamion: he still sleep at the hotel | 02:56 |
| Kamion | ah | 02:56 |
| fabbione | my house is a building site | 02:56 |
| fabbione | i don't really have place for people to sleep here | 02:56 |
| fabbione | he barely has a chair where to sit :) | 02:56 |
| Kamion | well, hope he gets well soon | 02:56 |
| fabbione | yeah i am pretty sure he will be alright | 02:56 |
| thom | grah, are any of the gnome anoncvs mirrors even vaguely up to date? | 03:00 |
| seb128 | define "vaguely" | 03:01 |
| jdub | depends on your definition of 'up to date' | 03:01 |
| thom | less than 2 days delta? | 03:01 |
| tseng | that reminds me, whats up with the tarball feed on pgnome/news | 03:02 |
| jdub | tseng: dunno, noticed it but haven't checked | 03:02 |
| tseng | hrm | 03:02 |
| fabbione | daniels is still alive :-) | 03:17 |
| thom | goodo | 03:17 |
| doko | elmo: please sync gcc-3.3 from unstable | 03:17 |
| fabbione | and the ati driver fix is compiling now | 03:17 |
| Mithrandir | so you haven't been able to kill him with danish food, yet? | 03:17 |
| fabbione | time to mount the metal bars on the dinining table :-) | 03:17 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: nope :( | 03:17 |
| doko | danish "food"? flavours and colour addons dominate danish food (although a good hot dog ...) | 03:18 |
| fabbione | doko: he had a hot dog yesterday evening | 03:19 |
| fabbione | that's why he is close to die | 03:19 |
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| doko | feed him danish soft ice cream, that will help ;) | 03:22 |
| carlos | seb128: new evolution does not let me send any mail... | 03:22 |
| carlos | seb128: is it a know bug? | 03:22 |
| seb128 | no | 03:23 |
| carlos | seb128: it gives me connection refused, but the server works from a direct telnet session | 03:23 |
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| seb128 | carlos: not a ssl issue ? | 03:23 |
| carlos | seb128: the smtp + ssl is activated after the connection is done (it uses also the port 25) | 03:24 |
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| carlos | let me change the smtp server... | 03:24 |
| seb128 | carlos: it that ok if you don't use an ssl connection ? | 03:24 |
| carlos | seb128: testing it, btw, after the upgrade the auth option for the smtp is disabled, I need to renable it by hand (but i'm not able to test it at the moment) | 03:26 |
| carlos | seb128: yes, the problem is the "Use Always SSL option" | 03:28 |
| carlos | for sending, without it, it works | 03:28 |
| seb128 | ok, so that's not an evolution problem apparently :) | 03:28 |
| carlos | are you sure? | 03:28 |
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| carlos | Same options, same server, evolution 2.0 worked without problems... | 03:29 |
| seb128 | the last bug reports about this have been closed a NOTXIMIAN IIRC | 03:29 |
| seb128 | saying that's due to the server which is buggedf | 03:29 |
| seb128 | -f | 03:29 |
| amu | moinD | 03:29 |
| seb128 | hi amu | 03:29 |
| carlos | seb128: could you give me an URL for that bugreport, please? | 03:29 |
| fabbione | amu: we have a fix for that segfault you were getting with X.org | 03:34 |
| seb128 | carlos: I've http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=68444, but it was with an imap server .. looking for mail sending | 03:35 |
| carlos | seb128: don't worry | 03:35 |
| carlos | I will search for it | 03:35 |
| carlos | I thought you had it located already | 03:35 |
| fabbione | workrave is yelling and screaming at me | 03:35 |
| fabbione | bbl | 03:35 |
| seb128 | carlos: have you tried to wait some minutes ? | 03:36 |
| Mithrandir | did we ever get a ical feed with meetings and stuff? | 03:36 |
| carlos | seb128: some minutes? | 03:36 |
| carlos | for what? | 03:36 |
| carlos | the problem is that it does not reachs the server or it tries to connect to the wrong server | 03:37 |
| seb128 | carlos: to get the mail sent | 03:37 |
| carlos | the server logs does not have any connection attempt logged | 03:37 |
| carlos | seb128: yes, and same error | 03:37 |
| seb128 | oh, you have an error ? | 03:38 |
| seb128 | I thought is was just hanging | 03:38 |
| seb128 | ok, so probably not the same issue I was thinking of | 03:38 |
| seb128 | if you open an upstream bug please Cc: me :) | 03:38 |
| carlos | ok | 03:38 |
| carlos | :-) | 03:38 |
| carlos | seb128@debian.org or canonical.com? | 03:39 |
| seb128 | debian | 03:40 |
| carlos | ok | 03:40 |
| seb128 | I've not created different accounts with the new email | 03:40 |
| sivang | seb128 : have you patched #2221 yet? | 03:40 |
| seb128 | sivang: no, so many bugs, I've not had time yet :/ | 03:40 |
| seb128 | sivang: if you want to test the fix that would be nice :) | 03:41 |
| carlos | seb128: I will look at it tonight after work hours, I can use my local smtp server until it's fixed | 03:41 |
| sivang | seb128 : got it! :) | 03:41 |
| === sivang finally found a reasonable patch to test | ||
| sivang | seb128 : did you track down the bug at all ? or just attched the proposed patch? | 03:43 |
| sivang | seb128 : I mean, I understand what happened in the perl code, just not sure when it did :) | 03:43 |
| seb128 | I've not added anything | 03:43 |
| seb128 | the upstream devel has attached the patch which has been commited in the CVS | 03:44 |
| sivang | seb128 : ok, I will test the fix | 03:52 |
| jdub | far out | 03:54 |
| jdub | stupid bogofilter | 03:54 |
| jdub | gar gar | 03:54 |
| === jdub reads "we punched you in the face again!" in the bogofilter NEWS file | ||
| thom | time to try NM with a wired connection, lets see how badly this breaks | 04:30 |
| thom | badly | 04:36 |
| thom | oh well | 04:36 |
| Kamion | d'oh! I never uploaded the merged countrychooser | 04:37 |
| elmo | thom/fabbione/seb128/doko: done | 04:40 |
| seb128 | thanks | 04:41 |
| fabbione | elmo: also x.org? ;) | 04:43 |
| fabbione | elmo: thanks btw.. you still rock! | 04:43 |
| Mithrandir | elmo: seems we don't have elfutils in universe, could you sync that? | 04:43 |
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| sladen | does anyone have pictures from Oxford of the usplash whiteboard? | 04:44 |
| elmo | Mithrandir: I don't see it in Debian ? | 04:44 |
| elmo | Mithrandir: #221761 | 04:45 |
| elmo | fabbione: just apache, I'm afraid | 04:45 |
| thom | elmo: grazi :-) | 04:45 |
| Mithrandir | elmo: sorry, I'm trying to track down what the package is; I need it for some glibc debugging. | 04:45 |
| Mithrandir | elmo: argh, ok. | 04:45 |
| thom | sladen: i thought someone had it, but can't recall who | 04:46 |
| sladen | thom: that's what I thought too. | 04:51 |
| sladen | thom: can you remember who else was around and awake? | 04:51 |
| Kamion | it didn't all get transferred to the wiki? | 04:51 |
| sladen | Kamion: yes, hopefully. I'm drawing to draw up all the documentation I can | 04:53 |
| thom | sladen: Kinnison ? | 04:53 |
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| fabbione | daniels: you around? | 04:58 |
| daniels | fabbione: yeah, just got in | 04:59 |
| daniels | reading email now | 04:59 |
| daniels | the fruit didn't help any, but I'm at least capable of basic mobility now | 04:59 |
| Mithrandir | daniels: how are you feeling? | 04:59 |
| daniels | like utter crap | 05:00 |
| Mithrandir | what happened? stomach revolt? | 05:00 |
| daniels | quite violent armed revolution, yes | 05:02 |
| daniels | so I spent most of today in bed; dragged myself up and went out to find some real food and got some fresh air before, starting to feel vaguely human again | 05:03 |
| fabbione | any arch guy around? | 05:03 |
| daniels | lesson #2 for the week: pasting URLs into mutt can cause mail loss | 05:18 |
| === sivang wonders if there is any way of feeding mutt with food from stdin | ||
| daniels | just paste http://www.happycow.net/europe/denmark/copenhagen/ into the folder of your choice | 05:21 |
| daniels | list folders recommended (glad I didn't lose any personal/non-archived mail) | 05:21 |
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| ddaa | fabbione: wassup? | 05:25 |
| fabbione | ddaa: i am having a problem with baz | 05:27 |
| fabbione | to tag a release | 05:27 |
| fabbione | and i was searching a simple wy to do an "export" | 05:28 |
| ddaa | tag was phased out in favor of switch | 05:28 |
| ddaa | oops | 05:28 |
| ddaa | * in favor of branch | 05:28 |
| ddaa | Which does tag+switch | 05:29 |
| daniels | ddaa: the problem is that xorg--debian--6.8.1-0.3 is apparently an invalid version | 05:29 |
| daniels | can the version not have a - ? | 05:29 |
| fabbione | branch: invalid version name -- xorg--debian--6.8.1-0.3 | 05:29 |
| ddaa | daniels: no, it cannot | 05:29 |
| daniels | tagging for every debian revision is pretty important to us, because it's the only way to ... ah crap | 05:29 |
| ddaa | if you want to call you revisions by arbitrary names, use a one-line config | 05:29 |
| daniels | any way around this, other than a text file noting that 6.8.1-0.3 == --patch-9? | 05:30 |
| daniels | have a config that looks like '6.8.1-0.3 xorg--debian--6.8.1--patch-9'? | 05:30 |
| ddaa | The usual practice is to create a 'dists' category with all configs. | 05:30 |
| daniels | any documentation I should be reading on configs? | 05:30 |
| fabbione | ddaa: ok.. what about "export"? | 05:30 |
| ddaa | daniels: no, make the arbitrary version the name of the config file | 05:31 |
| mdz | lifeless: pong | 05:31 |
| ddaa | the content of the configs only gives the revision and the directory name to get to. | 05:31 |
| ddaa | fabbione: how generic an export do you want? | 05:31 |
| ddaa | Want support for spaces and other weird stuff in file names? | 05:32 |
| fabbione | ddaa: like cvs export or svn export | 05:32 |
| ddaa | The "simple" export, until it's implemented in baz, looks like: | 05:32 |
| fabbione | ddaa: i want something that works indipendently of what i have | 05:32 |
| ddaa | (me checks if that's not already in the wiki, that's a faq) | 05:32 |
| ddaa | fabbione: the fully general one is a bitch, let me look | 05:33 |
| daniels | ddaa: oh, right | 05:33 |
| ddaa | because of drug-abuse^W^W pika-escaping in inventory output | 05:33 |
| fabbione | ok | 05:33 |
| daniels | ddaa: so, echo versions/6.8.1-0.3 xorg@canonical.com/xorg--debian--6.8.1--patch-9 > dists/version-6.8.1-0.3 ? | 05:33 |
| fabbione | i think i will be faster removing .arch by hand | 05:33 |
| ddaa | daniels: would call it something like dist/xorg/6.8.1-0.3, and It would use a fixed source tree name (e.g. xorg) instead of "versions/6.8.1-0.3" | 05:35 |
| ddaa | uuu | 05:35 |
| ddaa | configs/xorg/6.8.1-0.3 | 05:35 |
| daniels | ddaa: ok, thanks | 05:36 |
| fabbione | daniels: ok. i killed the arch stuff.. i will release with what's in the archive now | 05:36 |
| ddaa | fabbione: let me look, there is probably a script around | 05:36 |
| fabbione | daniels: mind to take care of tagging? | 05:36 |
| fabbione | ddaa: i have done already thanks | 05:36 |
| mdz | morning | 05:36 |
| ddaa | fabbione: why ask for something if you cannot be bothered to wait 5 mins for the answer? | 05:36 |
| Kamion | fabbione: you could just use dpkg-buildpackage's support for excluding files | 05:36 |
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| Kamion | then you can just build out of a working tree | 05:37 |
| ddaa | fabbione: notwithstanding that you make me feel like an idiot. | 05:37 |
| fabbione | ddaa: because i am in short of time. sorry. nothing to make you feel like an idiot | 05:37 |
| fabbione | Kamion: oh nice.. thanks. i will look into that | 05:38 |
| Kamion | you want the -i option | 05:38 |
| fabbione | ddaa: again.. thanks. i appreciate anyway and having an official way to do so is better | 05:38 |
| daniels | fabbione: i'll start building up some configs tonight | 05:38 |
| fabbione | ddaa: i am still here listening.. | 05:38 |
| daniels | fabbione: i might have to drop off in a bit (or maybe I'll just put some gloves on and sync my mirror) because my hands are freeeeeeeeeezing ;) | 05:38 |
| Kamion | fabbione: the default value for -i already ignores {arch} and .arch-ids, though | 05:38 |
| Kamion | fabbione: unless you're building a native package, you should just be able to build away ... | 05:39 |
| ddaa | fabbione: okay, it's going take a little time, the recipe on the wiki is shit. | 05:39 |
| fabbione | Kamion: ah ok.. i need to see how it interact with dpkg-source -b | 05:39 |
| fabbione | ddaa: ok thanks :-) | 05:39 |
| Kamion | fabbione: this is in dpkg-source | 05:40 |
| fabbione | Kamion: even better :-) | 05:40 |
| fabbione | anyway... 6.8.1-0.3 is building.. expect a drop in a hour or so | 05:40 |
| fabbione | tomorrow we will go live | 05:40 |
| fabbione | FASTEN YOUR SEATBELT BABY! | 05:41 |
| fabbione | daniels: i will leave as soon as i can update the package files | 05:42 |
| fabbione | daniels: gf is pretending some time with her | 05:42 |
| fabbione | daniels: and i can't say she is not right | 05:42 |
| daniels | fabbione: sure, tha's fine | 05:46 |
| daniels | fabbione: if you need me to ssh in, check progress, upload, whatever, let me know | 05:47 |
| daniels | fabbione: i've got a while till I'll go back and crash | 05:47 |
| fabbione | daniels: nah i have evertything under control | 05:48 |
| fabbione | daniels: go and rest | 05:48 |
| fabbione | and come back alive tomorrow | 05:48 |
| daniels | awesome | 05:48 |
| fabbione | daniels: get ready for a long run :-) | 05:49 |
| daniels | heh :) | 05:49 |
| Kamion | elmo: any idea where wvstreams 3.75.0-1ubuntu3 went? I got an ACCEPTED mail, but the actual package seems to have disappeared into the ether | 05:52 |
| fabbione | elmo: do you think you can be around tomorrow when we upload x.org? | 05:53 |
| daniels | fc3 out with gnome 2.8 | 05:58 |
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| azeem | what version is NLD featuring? | 06:00 |
| tseng | 2.6 | 06:03 |
| tseng | if it matters. | 06:03 |
| tseng | from what ive seen so far, it doesnt feature anything revolutionary | 06:04 |
| tseng | a bit of integration with with novell network services | 06:04 |
| tseng | and the openoffice improvements ximian has had for about a year now | 06:04 |
| Mitario | hello everyone | 06:04 |
| fabbione | daniels: only ppc missing :-) | 06:07 |
| daniels | fabbione: rad | 06:08 |
| fabbione | it's building the debs now | 06:08 |
| fabbione | ok.. they are all up | 06:15 |
| daniels | sweet | 06:15 |
| fabbione | mail is on the way | 06:15 |
| fabbione | chroots are clean again... | 06:16 |
| daniels | so we do the split and then upload? | 06:16 |
| daniels | (tomorrow) | 06:16 |
| fabbione | daniels: yes. split -> test -> test -> test -> test -> test -> test -> upload | 06:16 |
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| fabbione | daniels: than we need to run to the airport and catch the first plane directed to any unreachable island in the pacific | 06:17 |
| daniels | heh, cool :) | 06:17 |
| daniels | australia is pretty unreachable in late december, i discovered :P | 06:17 |
| daniels | plus, we have no internet there | 06:17 |
| fabbione | yeah.. but people must not know where we are going | 06:18 |
| fabbione | ;) | 06:18 |
| fabbione | anyway | 06:18 |
| fabbione | i am off :-) | 06:18 |
| fabbione | everything is in place | 06:18 |
| fabbione | mail is out | 06:18 |
| fabbione | daniels: if you see mako around ask him to prepare an official announcement | 06:18 |
| fabbione | or something | 06:18 |
| fabbione | cya tomorrow | 06:19 |
| daniels | ok, sure | 06:19 |
| daniels | night dude | 06:20 |
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| === Kamion has languagechooser changes that at least make a brave attempt to do UTF-8 by default | ||
| daniels | Kamion: nice one | 06:25 |
| daniels | ok, I'm heading back to the hotel (battery virtually dead, should attempt dinner anyway) now, might be online later on depending on how I feel | 06:25 |
| Kamion | does anyone know if .UTF-8@euro locales are useful for anything? | 06:26 |
| daniels | else, see you all tomorrow | 06:26 |
| Kamion | default currency choices or something? | 06:26 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: they're not useful. | 06:26 |
| Kamion | are they identical to .UTF-8? | 06:27 |
| === Kamion looks at #274491 | ||
| seb128 | Kamion: #1755 | 06:29 |
| Kamion | yeah, that's pretty much the same as Debian #274491 | 06:29 |
| Kamion | ah, but with more useful information | 06:30 |
| seb128 | yeah :) | 06:30 |
| Kamion | ok, so the installer shouldn't perpetuate those | 06:30 |
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| justdave | I was hoping Apple would have updated Disk Utility in 10.3.6 (just came out a couple days ago) so it wouldn't crash when you try to burn Ubuntu images, but no such luck. | 06:50 |
| ddaa | fabbione: in case you read the backlog, here is the excruciatingly complete recipe to export an arch tree: http://wiki.gnuarch.org/moin.cgi/Arch_20Recipes#export | 06:54 |
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| fabbione | ddaa: cool! | 07:21 |
| ddaa | fabbione: It's also likely that fai has something packaged for that. | 07:21 |
| ddaa | In the medium term, baz should have something built-in, too... | 07:22 |
| fabbione | nice | 07:22 |
| ddaa | Now, you understand why I could not answer right away? :-) | 07:22 |
| fabbione | sorry but mine wasn't a complain | 07:23 |
| fabbione | i don't want you to feel that way | 07:23 |
| ddaa | Np. | 07:23 |
| fabbione | but yes i understand :-) | 07:23 |
| Kamion | fai? argh, name-clash | 07:23 |
| ddaa | Kamion: yeah, yeah... feel free to propose another name to abentley... anyway, most/all of it is probably going to be folded into baz eventually. | 07:24 |
| ddaa | fabbione: I just got irked by the "how can I do this? <scramble to find the correct, non-obvious, solution> Nevermind, I did it by hand." But I understand you were in a rush. So no problem. | 07:27 |
| fabbione | ok... | 07:27 |
| fabbione | gotta go for real now | 07:27 |
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| Mitario | is there a way to check which version of ubuntu is installed? (hoary, warty for example) | 07:42 |
| amu | less /etc/lsb-release | 07:43 |
| Mitario | ah! | 07:45 |
| Mitario | ty | 07:45 |
| Kamion | elmo: can I have busybox-cvs-floppy-udeb, di-utils-bootfloppy, load-floppy in main please? | 07:45 |
| amu | Kamion: maybe i'm little late, but happy birthday! | 07:47 |
| Kamion | amu: thanks :-) | 07:47 |
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| Mithrandir | Kamion: do you remember what we did about the netboot branding thingies? | 08:04 |
| Mithrandir | Kamion: (as elmo reported in 3246) | 08:04 |
| Kamion | it's just choose-mirror, branding like any other | 08:04 |
| Kamion | looks branded to me | 08:04 |
| Mithrandir | hmm, why does elmo say it's not? | 08:05 |
| Kamion | the only mention of Debian I see in choose-mirror is in fuzzy templates | 08:06 |
| Kamion | ah, the version in warty had some missing branding | 08:07 |
| Kamion | it's fixed in hoary | 08:07 |
| Mithrandir | oh, ok | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | care to comment that on the bug? | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | or should I | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | ? | 08:08 |
| Kamion | just did | 08:08 |
| Kamion | Mithrandir: a generated file had been branded rather than the file from which it was generated | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | heh, ok. | 08:08 |
| Mithrandir | but that's fixed now? | 08:14 |
| Kamion | yep, I fixed it when doing the merge from Debian to hoary | 08:15 |
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| === Kamion claims first "done" blood on HoaryGoals | ||
| Mithrandir | Kamion: bah, you rock, as usual. :P | 08:31 |
| Kamion | don't worry, the rest are a lot harder :) | 08:31 |
| doko | mithrandir: did you get a mail about my ia32-libs-openoffice.org upload? | 08:34 |
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| Kamion | Mithrandir: can you reproduce #2651? | 08:45 |
| cenerentola | ciao | 08:47 |
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| daniels | Kamion: ohnoyoudinnit | 08:53 |
| Kamion | ? | 08:54 |
| daniels | Kamion: <418A6337.7020401@canonical.com> on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 18:13:27 +0100 says you didn't claim first blood :P | 08:54 |
| Kamion | daniels: I see no "done" on HoaryGoals :) | 08:55 |
| daniels | Kamion: ber | 08:55 |
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| Mithrandir | Kamion: I can try tomorrow evening or so. | 09:19 |
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| Mithrandir | thom: what's the easiest way to redirect people from www.foo.com to www.bar.com; both are on the same site, and I'd like deep links to be redirected properly as well. | 09:41 |
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| amu | damm, freenode expect now a running ident? | 10:03 |
| ChrisH | It did that always. But you can REJECT that port and still get in. | 10:04 |
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| amu | looks like the last 30min. I cant join :( | 10:06 |
| carlos | how could I see why aptitude is trying to install gstreamer-editor? | 10:09 |
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| thom | Mithrandir: same VirtualHost ? | 10:23 |
| Mithrandir | thom: preferably, yes. | 10:24 |
| Mithrandir | I know I could use mod_rewrite, but it's so totally overkill. :) | 10:25 |
| thom | with different vhosts it's trivial - RedirectMatch /(.*) www.bar.com/$1 in the foo.com VirtualHost | 10:26 |
| Mithrandir | I could set up different virtualhosts, but it's silly, IMHO. | 10:26 |
| thom | otherwise, you're in mod_rewrite territory - you'd need to do a RewriteCond for the host, then RewriteRule similar to the redirect i just gave you | 10:26 |
| Mithrandir | that's even more silly. | 10:27 |
| thom | agreed (on both counts) | 10:27 |
| Mithrandir | it's less work to write another apachemodule. | 10:27 |
| Mithrandir | renamevhost or something. | 10:27 |
| thom | but if both are the same virtual host, why bother? | 10:27 |
| Mithrandir | one is going away at some point. | 10:28 |
| Mithrandir | so it's a gentle nudge for people to see the new url and update. | 10:28 |
| Mithrandir | (raw.no -> err.no) | 10:29 |
| thom | urgh, it never works | 10:29 |
| Mithrandir | of course it doesn't work, but it doesn't hurt either. | 10:29 |
| Mithrandir | it doesn't work 100%, it works the first 80% or so. | 10:29 |
| Mithrandir | which leaves the second, third and fourth 80%. | 10:29 |
| carlos | Mithrandir: the best option IMHO is a Redirect Permanent | 10:31 |
| carlos | with that google like applications will update the links to the new URL | 10:31 |
| Mithrandir | carlos: I don't care about google, it'll pick up the new url fast enough. | 10:32 |
| Mithrandir | carlos: I care about people remembering URLs. | 10:32 |
| carlos | Mithrandir: the redirect permanent is like the RedirectMatch | 10:32 |
| carlos | so the people will see alse the new url | 10:32 |
| Mithrandir | carlos: yes, but it requires another vhost. | 10:32 |
| carlos | but as you already know, you will need two virtualhost entries | 10:32 |
| Mithrandir | which is silly. | 10:32 |
| Mithrandir | thom: what's a simple, standalone module I could use as a template? | 10:33 |
| |trey| | Mplayer in hoary used to provide codecs as part of the package, legal problems with that? | 10:35 |
| thom | Mithrandir: mod_example? :-) | 10:36 |
| Mithrandir | thom: it should be in its own source pkg. I'm goddamn lazy. :P | 10:37 |
| thom | heh | 10:38 |
| |trey| | Without the codecs, might as well not have mplayer around :( no w32codecs package makes it useless :( | 10:39 |
| thom | i need to package mod_zeroconf soon, that's pretty trivial. but i'd just grab the apache2 source and look in modules/experimental/ | 10:39 |
| mdz | |trey|: I do not find that to be accurate | 10:39 |
| pitti | |trey|: I wouldn't go that far; for me mplayer works just great without any w32 codecs | 10:39 |
| |trey| | pitti, I can't play any movies that I have around now... for me, that makes my players useless :( | 10:40 |
| pitti | |trey|: odd, I can play everything - DivX, DVDs, MPEGs, ... | 10:40 |
| pitti | |trey|: which codecs do you use? | 10:41 |
| |trey| | before the last upgrade, they all worked, thats why I have them around... | 10:41 |
| Mithrandir | thom: already at it | 10:41 |
| |trey| | pitti, the old mplayer-* packages used to include those codecs... last upgrade switched to marillats packages... these don't have codecs, and no w32codecs available... | 10:42 |
| |trey| | I forget who was maintainer before, but it wasn't Christian... | 10:42 |
| pitti | |trey|: ah, this may be a bug; I compiled mplayer myself, with all codecs | 10:42 |
| |trey| | pitti, you should upload that package then, far more useful :) | 10:42 |
| pitti | |trey|: I did not package it, I just compiled the upstream sources | 10:43 |
| pitti | |trey|: I doubt that many people would like my version :-) No gui at all, just command line :-) | 10:43 |
| pitti | |trey|: but it is very fast because of this :-) | 10:43 |
| |trey| | pitti, atleast replace -nogui :) thats what I use anyways :) | 10:43 |
| lifeless | mdz: pingpong | 10:44 |
| mdz | lifeless: hi | 10:44 |
| sjoerd | pitti: did you have time to look at your arch thingie | 10:44 |
| lifeless | so yeah, tla in warty. | 10:44 |
| pitti | sjoerd: I tried it myself and got the 404 | 10:44 |
| |trey| | pitti, would be greatly appreciated... seems silly to not provide the codecs when we provide mp3 etc already in multiverse :( | 10:44 |
| pitti | sjoerd: however, I do not know why; it works fine with a browser | 10:45 |
| sjoerd | pitti: ah ok, them i'm not doing something stupid :) | 10:45 |
| pitti | sjoerd: I also tried to replace '@' with '%40', but that didn't do it... | 10:45 |
| sjoerd | pitti: it tries to access it with webdav stuff | 10:45 |
| pitti | sjoerd: I'll ask an arch guru how to confine that to plain http | 10:45 |
| sjoerd | ;) | 10:45 |
| mdz | lifeless: yeah? | 10:51 |
| lifeless | I thought it might be faster to chat here, rather than bug back n forwarding. | 10:51 |
| mdz | lifeless: I outlined the options in bugzilla; what makes most sense to you? | 10:51 |
| mdz | lifeless: have you talked to asuffield by any chance? | 10:51 |
| mdz | that's the best option from where I sit: Debian updates to more recent tla, and we follow Debian | 10:52 |
| lifeless | not about this specifically, but I have in the past. When Tom labels a new release as having happened, then asuffield will update his debian package for tla. | 10:52 |
| Mithrandir | asuffield is alive in #debian-devel on opn now, fyi | 10:52 |
| lifeless | I guess I'm more interested in the policy: I'm rather confused that we are considering updating tla in warty at all. | 10:53 |
| lifeless | asuffield does have daily debs of toms current code too. | 10:55 |
| mdz | lifeless: we aren't considering updating tla in warty | 10:57 |
| mdz | but in Ubuntu (i.e., hoary) | 10:57 |
| lifeless | ah, so this is for hoary. Right. | 10:57 |
| lifeless | I'd do a ubuntu-versioned package of baz after we release 1.0 | 10:58 |
| lifeless | and let tla 1.3 come when it comes. | 10:58 |
| mdz | it only needs an ubuntu version if it's a Debian package that's different in Ubuntu | 10:58 |
| mdz | 1.0-1 is fine for this | 10:58 |
| mdz | ok, sounds good | 10:58 |
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| thom | yay, bye bye fam | 11:06 |
| pitti | thom: does that mean that gamin is now activated in Hoary? | 11:07 |
| thom | seems so, yeah | 11:09 |
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| opi | Hello | 11:11 |
| opi | I've come across funny thing in DI | 11:11 |
| opi | having same problem with Ubuntu and Debian Sarge (netinstall) | 11:12 |
| pitti | sjoerd: I released pmount 0.3 which fixes all of your issues | 11:12 |
| opi | how do you think, where should I put my raport? DI developers, Ubuntu Bugzilla? Both? :) | 11:12 |
| pitti | sjoerd: it's now at my hp and I just uploaded the debian package | 11:12 |
| pitti | opi: bugzilla is preferred for bugs | 11:12 |
| sjoerd | pitti: cool, nice work ;) | 11:13 |
| pitti | opi: if you have general questions or an installation report, then mail might be better | 11:13 |
| mdz | opi: search bugzilla _before_ filing a new bug | 11:14 |
| opi | mdz: okey | 11:14 |
| sjoerd | pitti: only the group thingie is left then ? | 11:14 |
| opi | pitti: well, I just try to put new software on old box | 11:14 |
| pitti | sjoerd: yes | 11:14 |
| pitti | sjoerd: well, and of course the missing uid checking for ext2 and the like | 11:15 |
| opi | pitti: first time I've got Installation running without problem, but I've messed up and decited to restart | 11:15 |
| opi | pitti: after that (I do not know why) DI didn't go behind module loading stage | 11:15 |
| opi | pitti: for both Ubuntu and Debian | 11:15 |
| opi | I know it sounds funny | 11:16 |
| pitti | opi: did you change any hardware since then? | 11:16 |
| opi | nope | 11:16 |
| pitti | opi: did you check the CD for faults? | 11:16 |
| opi | it was separated by 15 secs of reboot | 11:16 |
| opi | pitti: ISO had good MD5 (my other box is installed from it) | 11:16 |
| opi | pitti: and CDR looks ok | 11:16 |
| pitti | opi: you can boot the CD in expert mode and test the CD in the menu | 11:17 |
| opi | pitti: ok, I didn't knew about Test in expert | 11:17 |
| opi | pitti: I only did ,,custom'' before ;) | 11:17 |
| sjoerd | pitti: what was the behaviour if it can't get the uid again ? | 11:18 |
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| pitti | sjoerd: it just allows it | 11:18 |
| pitti | sjoerd: it = unmounting | 11:18 |
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