=== sjoerd [~sjoerd@fire.ipv6.luon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:14] ARGH, the poxy wiki doesn't even let me use my back button usefully [12:15] I hope it overrides it with telepathic javascript [12:19] mdz: uh, dude. you keep leaving markup warnings in your trail [12:19] :-) [12:29] thom: only when I lose my mind and decide to try ReST again [12:29] I changed back to moin immediately after [12:32] yeah, ReST is pretty crackadelic [12:32] lifeless: any luck with apt? [12:33] thom: if the markup requires warnings to get it right, it's too unforgiving [12:34] nod. esp it seems very space sensitive, and to have useless warnings [12:34] I just fixed WikiToDo [12:35] mdz: so are we in LA at the same time at all? [12:35] oh, I broke that one too? [12:35] thom: yes, we don't leave until the 16th [12:35] thom: where are you staying? [12:35] yep, only one space rather than two on the indented bullet point [12:36] mdz: the thursday night before Vegas, i'm in Irvine - staying with a friend at UCI [12:36] mdz: yah, correcting it at the moment, bug in the 'taxi'. [12:36] thom: hmm, that's not so close, but maybe we can arrange something [12:37] mdz: but note i'm there for literally one day only before i head to Vegas, and then don't get back till the 17th :/ [12:37] thom: might also be some overlap before you leave as well; we're thinking of returning on the 21st (sunday) [12:37] ah, cool [12:37] another day or so [12:38] that might work out better, i'm planning to be more central for that [12:38] my address is in the wiki so you can get your bearings [12:42] thanks :-) === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-69-155-172-150.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@135.157-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:05] mdz: You were looking for me last night? [01:06] jblack: was looking for some arch help; I got straightened out, though [01:07] jblack: I sent a couple of bugs your way, unsure whether they were already addressed in baz [01:07] Ok. You know how to reach me if I'm not on tty? [01:07] you don't seem to be on jabber [01:07] phone? [01:08] Phone works, as does a short message to jblackphone@linuxguru.net, which will sms me === hypa7ia [~leigh@user16.megabit.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub changes jblack's bugzilla addres... [01:16] jdub: Pardon? Isn't my bugzilla address jblack@gnuarch.org? That should be appropriate to bugzilla. [01:19] *whooosh* === hypa7ia [~leigh@user16.megabit.utoronto.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] thom, if you're around, networkmonitor ate my wifi connection. removing it got me back online, but i was wondering if any of my logs would be of interest to you [01:36] daemon.log please [01:40] thom: http://pastebin.com/118752 [01:40] it seems to mostly look like that [01:41] yeah, that looks pretty familiar :/ [01:41] yeah? [01:41] i've seen NM break most ways it can recently [01:41] the errno-19's are from me unloading and reloading my ipw2200 drivers === hypa7ia nods [01:42] i need to push updated packages, that might happen when i get to LA [01:42] coolbeans [01:42] for now i'm just using wifi-radar for scanning. it's quite nice. [01:42] and python :-) [01:42] yar [01:43] NM will be much cooler when it gets stable [01:43] it has a nasty habit of turning encryption on and then segfaulting here [01:43] whoot, lookin forward to it. and to my drivers maturing and all :-) [01:43] eek! [01:43] Does NM work with odd driver sets like linux-wlan-ng? [01:43] $ ./universe [01:43] cabextract [01:43] ethtool [01:43] gpdf [01:43] gtkhtml3.2 [01:43] howl-utils [01:43] libgal2.2-common [01:43] I still consider linux-wlan-ng the devil, but I need to use it for one device [01:43] libgtkhtml3.2-11 [01:43] mdnsresponder [01:44] msttcorefonts [01:44] python-gst [01:44] \ [01:44] hmm [01:44] few of those will be resolved with hoary proposals :) [01:44] chrisa: it uses libiw (wireless tools) so if linux-wlan-ng plays well with that, then it'll be fine === zed [~zed@ACC0BA2B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] what's the deal with gpdf? [01:44] will we be able to move to it for hoary? [01:44] if it doesn't. you're SOL right now === jdub removes the gtkhtml/gal mess [01:44] mdz: pretty sure === thom goes to bed [01:45] nacht [01:45] thom: oh well, SOL seems to be the general linux-wlan use case [01:45] thom: oh, had a look at g-u-s much? [01:46] jdub: not at all really, too many things going on [01:46] ok [01:46] mizar:[~] universe |wc -l [01:46] 60 [01:46] i have the tarball on my laptop, might take a look on the plane [01:47] somebody wanna fix the libxklavier build failure please? should just be a matter of s/xlibs-static-dev/libxkbfile-dev/ in the build-deps [01:48] mdz: oof. my main warty machine is pushing 85. [01:48] i'm sure there's crap there tho. [01:48] Kamion: will do [01:48] jdub: 51 after cleaning up random crap [01:48] probably about half those from gnucash [01:50] thanks for lookin at my logs thom :-) [01:51] no worries, sorry there's no magic fix [01:51] no worries, good to know i wasn't just goin nuts :-) [01:53] anyone mind if I put ntfstools-udeb in the installer seed? [01:53] then partman will be able to do ntfsresize [01:53] hypa7ia: going? a bit late for that... [01:54] although I notice it's already in hoary main [01:54] Kamion: do we feel comfortable supporting that? [01:54] lol, yeah, i guess i am running linux after all :-p [01:54] http://ubergeek.tv/article.php?pid=54 <-- like that [01:55] jdub: a lot more comfortable than I feel not supporting it [01:55] heh [01:55] i'd be happy to test it :) [01:55] it's far enough up on the list of warty installer gripes that I can't see it from here due to the cloud formations in the way [01:56] ok, committed [01:58] jdub: dude, you need to spank jaq next time you see him for that blocker severity firefox bug [01:58] he filed a blocker? [01:59] yeah [01:59] #3615 [02:00] it's faster to load the my bugs page than the new bugs page [02:00] yep [02:00] you don't have to download the javascript widget of death [02:01] *bong* [02:01] (jaq's bug, that is) [02:01] (well, ok, so the javascript widget of death is also bong) [02:02] i really, *really* hope that they don't keep breaking profiles in >1.0 [02:02] (but that one doesn't leap out of a cake wearing a pink tutu yelling "surprise!") [02:08] I'm rather tired of upgrading firefox and being greeted with xul errors with download dialogs and such [02:08] mdz: http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade/patches/host-skas3-2.6.9-v7.patch [02:09] mdz: is this a happy new version? [02:09] chrisa: that will happen if you don't restart it after the upgrade [02:09] bob2: Then I withdraw my previous statement... for the most part [02:10] jdub: his patches are generally solid [02:10] jdub: that's still the v3 never-going-upstream interface, though [02:10] oh === jamesh [~james@203-59-50-191.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ggi [~ggi@ggi.base.supporter.pdpc] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === calc [~ccheney@ip70-185-2-220.ma.dl.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hypa7ia [~leigh@user16.megabit.utoronto.ca] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === zed [~zed@ACC0BA2B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chrisa [~chris@nullcode.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:46] the one thing I'm missing in metacity from wmaker is the ability to +drag to resize - is it possible to do that at all in metacity? [03:48] From: Scott James Remnant [03:48] Subject: Accepted hotplug 0.0.20040329-16ubuntu1 (source) [03:48] gpg: Signature made Thu 11 Nov 2004 01:26:55 GMT using DSA key ID 43E25D1E [03:48] gpg: Good signature from "Matt Zimmerman " [03:48] gpg: aka "Matt Zimmerman " [03:48] gpg: aka "Matt Zimmerman " [03:49] I was starting to wonder whether I'd fallen asleep and some schitzophrenic side of me had started uploading packages [03:52] mjg59: dude [03:52] mjg59: http://lwn.net/Articles/110345/ [03:52] elmo: alt-shift, innit? [03:53] oh [03:53] resize [03:53] elmo: don't think so, unless i've missed something [03:55] jdub: doh, oh well [03:55] I'll stop trying by reflex eventually :) [04:06] elmo: Alt+Middle drag [04:07] yay [04:08] that's surprisingly hard to do with 3rd button emulation on a trackpad [04:09] jdub: can't you two-finger it? [04:09] yeah, but that's a three-handed move ;) [04:09] (to actually resize as well as hold the mouse buttons and alt) [04:10] oh, i can do alt with a finger, and the two buttons with a thumb [04:10] two buttons? [04:10] I mean just tap-drag on the pad with two fingers [04:10] oh, i turn that off [04:10] not a big fan of trackpad clickies [04:10] really? I like my silly gestures [04:11] synclient TapButton1=0 TapButton2=0 TapButton3=0 UpDownScrolling=0 VertScrollDelta=0 HorizScrollDelta=0 [04:11] ^ i have that in my session ;) [04:13] heh, I just have it at the defaults but with Option "LockedDrags" "false" [04:13] in my xorg.conf [04:13] "The structures that the chip drivers use to specify which [04:13] addresses they support has been shrunk, as a step toward moving them to [04:13] use the hotplug interfaces for autoloading. [04:13] " [04:13] ^ i2c [04:34] nice [04:46] # [04:46] Hardware diversity testing: get those Sounders going! Sounder launch Monday 08/09 [04:46] # [04:46] shouldn't that be "Arrays" ? [04:52] 'array' :) [05:18] jdub: ping? [05:18] pogn [05:18] pong [05:19] http://descent.netsplit.com/~scott/fonts.png [05:19] out of interest, which set of font rendering do you prefer? [05:21] i use unhinted aa + subpixel rendering on my lappy [05:21] which looks roughly like the two sets of windows on the left? [05:21] no [05:21] go into details and set it unhinted [05:22] out of your two, the one on the left is preferable [05:22] do you have the freetype autohinter on or off? [05:23] ugh ... I set the hinting to off and everything just went blurry and nasty === Keybuk switches it back on quick [05:23] I don't like the yellowish glow the right picture has [05:23] jdub: I'm not sure which I prefer ... with a CRT the right set is *far* preferable [05:24] but with the LCD, I'm actually a little temped by the left set [05:24] You prefer the right on a CRT? Looks cruddy here [05:24] the shapes and spacing looks better in the left one [05:24] chrisa: that image will look cruddy on a CRT whatever you do -- it's subpixel rendered :p [05:24] i am looking at this on both crt and lcd :) [05:25] sidenote, that's a peculiar wallpaper === jdub was just about to say 'power to the boypaper' [05:26] move the fricken window... [05:27] nah, I hate to say it, but I definitely prefer the font rendering on the right [05:28] the left just looks ... wavy [05:28] wavy? [05:28] WAVY? [05:28] dunno, it's hard to define [05:29] but to me, the set on the right, *especially* Monospace just looks more solid [05:29] must be if you're pussyfooting around with words like 'wavy' [05:29] yes, agree on monospace [05:29] turn hinting off! :) [05:30] arafat is dead [05:31] http://descent.netsplit.com/~scott/fonts-hinting-off.png [05:31] that just looks *terrible* [05:32] lovely :-) [05:32] jdub: it looks like a TV picture in a thunderstorm [05:32] with the aerial pointing the wrong way [05:32] so you're getting the BBC by bouncing off your neighbour's car's window, and the thunder-head [05:33] well, i like hairless chested men too, dude, but that's no reason to be rude [05:33] lol === Keybuk likes his hinting on :) [05:40] "The controller stated that he had forgotten that he had given take off clearance to G-SMTJ (the Airbus) when he subsequently cleared EI-CJI (the Boeing) to cross the runway." [05:40] ...fear [05:46] heh, thom is on his way to the airport-o-doom [05:46] heathrow? [06:03] LAX [06:04] http://ktla.trb.com/news/local/ktla-110904laxclosecall,0,2928466.story?coll=ktla-news-1 [06:04] An animation of the near disaster shows Asiana Airlines flight 204 -- a boeing 747 -- approaching the airport for landing, when the control tower cleared Southwest Airlines flight 440 -- a boeing 737 -- for preparation to take off on the same runway. [06:07] well [06:07] as long as they're heading in the same direction [06:09] they would be [06:11] you take off and land in the same direction, and as confusius said "he who lands with wind up ass ends with rock in head" [06:23] morning guys [07:05] morning === skyrider [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:29] hello skyrider [07:29] hi [07:32] you a doc writer? [07:35] do, sorry [07:35] no [07:36] ahh, doc reader? [07:36] interested in becoming a doc writer? === azeem [~mbanck@socks-out.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:38] yes :) [07:38] you joined the wiki yet? [07:38] but I'm only fluent in Russian language [07:38] we need translator's [07:39] ok [07:39] I'm already joined the wiki [07:40] cool [07:40] I just relized I was not in #ubuntu-doc :-) [07:40] man I am tired [07:40] we do need help with translations though [07:40] hornbeck: :) [07:41] let's switch to ubuntu-doc. OK? [07:41] ok === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:51] Morning everybody! [07:53] morning === skyrider [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:07] mdz: thanks for that quote earlier... make me feel good about my choice of destinations :P === zed [~zed@ACC7638B.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid77 [~sid77@host98-44.pool8020.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sid77 ciao === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-139.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:37] Hi mvo_ ! [09:37] hi pitti [09:37] elmo: can you please sync libgd2 from sid? [09:42] sjoerd: awesome [09:43] daniels: dualhead doesn't work though, always claims there are no valid modes [09:43] morning btw :) [09:44] Hi sjoerd [09:45] sjoerd: weird [09:45] sjoerd: but morning! [09:46] sjoerd: by dualhead, I take it you mean [09:46] standard LCD and VGA out [09:46] daniels: yup [09:47] ah, bong [09:47] please file a bug and I'll look into it [09:47] k [09:47] is there a chance that dvi works ? there is currently a dvi screen in my neighbourhood :) [09:47] it might work, it might not ;) give it a shot [09:58] hrm, i should try dualhead again when i get back [09:58] i cheated and used fglrx last time [09:58] exactly the same error [10:02] i have dualhead sort of setup on a 9600 both output plugging into the same monitor, heh [10:04] thom: boo fglrx === sjoerd acquires a bugzilla account [10:05] what is it hard to setup dual head on some radeons? === lulu [~lu@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:19] daniels: why does X answers "false" or XSupportsLocale()" when I set LANG to e.g. "de_DE.UTF-8" ? === bitserf [~ljb@222-152-19-7.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:24] daniels: there is no xserver-xorg component yet in bugzilla, is that a problem ? [10:25] elmo: can you please sync libgd1394 from sid as well? === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurfix [~smurfix@run.smurf.noris.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:27] sjoerd: not massively. i've already asked for the component list to be synced, so it should happen soon enough. [10:27] mvo_: if you could tell me, I'll buy you a beer in Mataro. [10:27] daniels: should i wait for that or can i just file it now [10:28] sjoerd: just file it now, i think there's an 'xorg' component [10:29] ah, yes indeed.. filing against xorg then [10:35] hi, is this the right place to report bugs not in bugzilla or mailing list? (before filing bugzilla report) [10:36] did an upgrade to hoary from warty, somehow the gamin dep never got pulled down, causing all kinds of strange errors ('unable to connect to gam_server') [10:37] do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? [10:37] interesting, wonder how that got dropped [10:37] not a bug, then :-) [10:37] sorry for the false alarm, then [10:37] :) [10:37] no problem [10:38] oh, right. i installed totem-xine, it kills ubuntu-desktop [10:39] mjg59: running ntpdate in the resume script might not be a bad idea [10:41] if upgrades from warty to hoary loosely depend on ubuntu-desktop being around (is that the case?), wouldn't it make sense to consider adding totem-gstreamer | totem-xine to ubuntu-desktop? === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:47] pitti: err, I assume you mean libdc1394, not libgd1394 ? [10:47] pitti: libgd2 done [10:47] elmo: argh, yes [10:47] elmo: thanks [10:48] elmo: can you please also sync dbus and jigit? [10:48] pitti: done [10:48] elmo: all four? thanks [10:50] pitti: he's a syncing machine [10:51] daniels: I hope he has a good script for it [10:53] syncing's as easy as 'lorraine -f $pkg1 $pkg2[...] ' [10:53] (-f, --force) [10:54] I'm semi-tempted to make it invokable from chinstrap by the distro team or something, but the sync rate isn't high enough to bother yet === Astharot [~isager@82.52.99.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-139.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rburton [~ross@81-6-228-21.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-210-084.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RubenV [~lambda1@kn-upc-1.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === RubenV [~lambda1@kn-upc-1.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] thom: Probably makes more sense to do hwclock --hctosys [11:51] mjg59: or that [11:52] If they're running ntpd, it ought to sort things out [11:52] one way or another, the time needs to be reset [11:52] mjg59: hoary won't be by default [11:53] ntpdate doesn't seem ideal - it'd need to be backgrounded, and if it is then it might reply after X has come back and suddenly xscreensaver will come on again === mvo_ [~egon@suprimo-139.ping.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] nod [11:58] anyone here from the laptop team? [11:58] hwclock seems like a reasonable solution [11:58] i was just throwing out thoughts whilst packing === ogi [~ogi@open.fmi.uni-sofia.bg] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] I'd like to help out improving the support for Dell inspiron 8600 [11:59] I have a hoary one and my sister is running warthy, so I'm able to do a little testing === bitserf [~ljb@222-152-19-7.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] RubenV: What sort of support would you like to test? [12:17] mdz: confused; if you remove the -2.6- metapackages, how are linux-headers-* supposed to end up on the CD? [12:17] mdz: (right now, they don't; this is a bug) [12:19] hm, just need to fix the seeds I think [12:20] mjg59: well, anything needed to improve the use experience on my laptop [12:20] maybe suspend or something, but i don't want to lose my work [12:21] I'm an IT student but it should be possible to squeeze out some time between the studying [12:22] for now, suspend doesn't work, but that's more nvidia's fault i think [12:25] RubenV: Can you take a look at http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2004-November/001135.html ? [12:26] mdz: seeds fixed, I think [12:26] just read it half an hour ago [12:26] i'll try it out today [12:27] after a backup that is :) === sivang [~sivang@80.179.93.130.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-devel === x4m [~max@68.156-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cenerentola [~cenerento@84.222.38.147] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sabdfl [~mark@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:02] Hrm. The state of the sound drivers with respect to suspend/resume is fairly shocking. [01:02] mjg59: yah, some seem to need alsactl power off/alsactl power on [01:03] What do people feel the best way of dealing with this would be? We can refuse to suspend if there are any applications using the sound device, we can kill any sound-using applications, we can try to fix the drivers... [01:03] daniels: That doesn't seem to be sufficient [01:03] mjg59: wow, arse [01:04] daniels: I'm already doing that in those scripts - the craptop (for one) then breaks horribly if esd happens to be talking to the device at the time [01:05] Well, it comes back with esd in D state and anything that tries to play a sound (like, say, THE ENTIRE DESKTOP) then dies [01:05] mjg59: are the problems in a number of individual drivers or in the alsa generic code? [01:07] Hard to tell. [01:08] The errors I get on more than one machine are from the ac97 code, but that could just mean that the ac97 code isn't hearing what it expected from the hardware [01:08] The easy thing to do with respect to the hardware would be to unload and reload the modules, but that'll break stuff [01:08] (like anything that's using sound) [01:08] Oh, hang on - is there a way to tell esd to stop accessing the hardware? [01:09] There is, isn't there. Hmm. [01:09] Then we just need to enforce accesses through esound. [01:09] mjg59: even is there was, that'd only help with esd using apps ;) [01:09] robtaylor: Screw em. [01:09] heh [01:10] Everything we ship in supported ought to be using esd (or whatever sound server we actually ship) === robtaylor goes and looks at the ac97 code.. [01:10] robtaylor: Current situation is that I call alsactl power foo off in suspend and power foo on in resume [01:11] mjg59: is athere a partiuclat reason the alsa stuff cant use pm_callbacks? [01:13] robtaylor: Oh, it probably /does/ - but there's the weird alsactl interface as well [01:14] Oh. FFS. [01:14] ? [01:14] esdctl suspend suspends esd, which then seems to make esd-using clients very unhappy [01:15] ugh [01:15] They just start outputting very, very quickly to nothing [01:15] Rather than doing the sane thing and blocking [01:16] Whereas kill -STOPing esd does the right thing, but doesn't release the device [01:17] What sound server are we going to be using for Hoary? [01:19] mjg59: what chipset is the craptop you're working on? [01:19] via ac97 thing [01:20] 82xx? [01:20] Yeah [01:21] hmm, the drivers supsend/reusme code seems sane.. [01:21] what happens without alsactl? [01:22] Hrm. Dunno - must check. [01:24] could be a plan.. [01:26] polypaudio has no way to suspend and resume itself [01:29] And it binds to /dev/dsp forever [01:29] What a piece of shit [01:30] mjg59: polypaudio, I *think* [01:31] Kamion: Looks like it'll need some work, then... [01:31] not encouraging that it's a POS :) [01:31] Oh, it's probably fine for what it does [01:31] It's just lacking in functionality [01:32] jdub: Dude, why does polypaudio-x11 have no binaries in it? [01:41] mjg59: the in-kernel supsend/reusme code seems to switch the state between SNDRV_CTL_POWER_D0 /* full On */ and SNDRV_CTL_POWER_D3hot /* Off, with power */ so i guess you should only use alsactl power if you need to use any other than these two states [01:42] and i guess you should check the drivers gone to power off hot before you go to power off cold, etc.. [01:43] hmm [01:43] ok ignore that ;) [01:59] mjg59: hmm [01:59] case SNDRV_CTL_POWER_D3cold: [01:59] if (card->power_state != power_state) [01:59] /* FIXME: pass the correct state value */ [01:59] card->pm_suspend(card, 0); [01:59] break; [01:59] Haha. [01:59] Nothing actually tries to pass D3cold as far as I know, though [02:01] hmm, i guess a suspend to disk should probably do that *shrug* [02:03] no suspend handlers seem to look at the state, so i guess that FIXME's pretty irrelevent === RubenV [~lambda1@kn-upc-1.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:13] mjg59: your 2.6.9 kernel doesn't boot on my laptop [02:13] or not in a way i'm used to ;) [02:14] Uh. Weird [02:14] How so? [02:14] when grub loads the kernel [02:14] and it switches to fb [02:14] the screen blanks [02:14] and nothing gets outputted anymore [02:14] (even if i omit the quiet & splash parameters) [02:14] Hmm. It doesn't have any framebuffer support compiled in - they're all modules [02:15] Oh, were you using vesafb? [02:15] if vesa is the default, yes ;) [02:16] Do you have a video= argument on your kernel command line? [02:16] vga=792, that's all i have [02:17]