| sivang | this also should be task orientd, | 12:00 |
|---|---|---|
| sivang | as in : | 12:00 |
| sivang | 1) Intro - why use Ooo at the first place? how does it comapre to proprierity software : lists of features that are already compatible with msword/other pro. wp soft. | 12:01 |
| sivang | 2) Tasks index: | 12:01 |
| sivang | 2.1 : Your first document in the FOSS compatible (nice to have instructions to at least 3 FOSS wps) | 12:02 |
| sivang | 2.2 : Adding pictures. | 12:03 |
| sivang | 2.3 : Writing web pages in the wp. | 12:03 |
| sivang | etc... | 12:03 |
| sivang | etc.. | 12:03 |
| littlegreenman | what is FOSS? | 12:03 |
| sivang | not specifically in that order :) | 12:03 |
| littlegreenman | :) | 12:03 |
| sivang | FOSS= Free OPen Soure Software | 12:03 |
| littlegreenman | :) | 12:03 |
| littlegreenman | i have a little thingy done | 12:04 |
| littlegreenman | see in the wiki | 12:04 |
| littlegreenman | LearningOpenOfficeWordOutline | 12:04 |
| sivang | As I am thinking of it, if you could create like a whole section for this, with coming up docs on even | 12:04 |
| sivang | "Using GIMP for photoshop users" | 12:04 |
| sivang | etc. | 12:04 |
| littlegreenman | yeah | 12:05 |
| sivang | get my idea? | 12:05 |
| littlegreenman | i do... | 12:05 |
| === littlegreenman has time constraints until the end of the week | ||
| sivang | great. YOu're a heavy desktop user? | 12:05 |
| littlegreenman | but wanna help as much as i can :D | 12:05 |
| sivang | no problem on the time constraints | 12:05 |
| sivang | thank you! | 12:05 |
| sivang | :) | 12:05 |
| littlegreenman | sivang, explain desktop user | 12:05 |
| sivang | like someone who is very proficient with desktop usage, | 12:07 |
| sivang | like knows WP for well, desktop hacks :) | 12:07 |
| sivang | image processing stuff | 12:07 |
| sivang | IMing. | 12:07 |
| sivang | :) | 12:07 |
| sivang | stuff like that | 12:07 |
| sivang | I always envied those desktop masters (even in windows) who knew 2 keys shortcut to everything on the desktop :) | 12:07 |
| littlegreenman | yeah :) | 12:07 |
| littlegreenman | what i am going to do | 12:08 |
| littlegreenman | is take a look at *gulp* office manuals | 12:08 |
| littlegreenman | and see also how they are written... set up | 12:08 |
| littlegreenman | they have a headstart over us :D | 12:08 |
| sivang | http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LearningUbuntuOutline <== take a look in it, I hope it doesn't collide with your wishes..if so maybe you can add stuff to their's? | 12:09 |
| sivang | this is done by hornbeck and about 2 other people, maybe talk to him also? | 12:10 |
| sivang | + post to ML :) | 12:10 |
| sivang | what is gulp office? | 12:10 |
| littlegreenman | *gulp* is | 12:10 |
| littlegreenman | swalling dry :) as in i am embarassed | 12:11 |
| littlegreenman | but i looked into office :D | 12:11 |
| sivang | why embarassed? | 12:11 |
| sivang | :) | 12:11 |
| sivang | I don't see they have a wp section, maybe you can be in charge of it | 12:12 |
| sivang | hornbeck : ping | 12:12 |
| hornbeck | yes | 12:12 |
| littlegreenman | :) | 12:12 |
| sivang | how you doing buddy? :) | 12:12 |
| sivang | busy as always? | 12:12 |
| littlegreenman | always present :) | 12:12 |
| === hornbeck is trying to set up a zope server | ||
| sivang | ah, are we starting our own wiki? :) | 12:13 |
| littlegreenman | i like how he is always trying to set up something i never heard of! | 12:13 |
| hornbeck | need that icalender server | 12:13 |
| sivang | haha, his our "emerging technology" guy :) | 12:13 |
| sivang | everything just snaps out of the oven, hornbeck puts his hands on it and make it work. | 12:13 |
| sivang | :) | 12:13 |
| hornbeck | we want a icalender server so we can all use one task list | 12:13 |
| sivang | ah, in evo? | 12:13 |
| hornbeck | sivang: I try | 12:13 |
| hornbeck | yes in evo | 12:13 |
| hornbeck | zope is not playing nicely though | 12:14 |
| sivang | littlegreenman : he is very good at it :) but modest :) see if you can found the tomboy howto by him | 12:14 |
| sivang | very very cool proggy | 12:14 |
| sivang | been on my tray since :) | 12:14 |
| hornbeck | I use tomboy from cvs now | 12:14 |
| hornbeck | alot better | 12:14 |
| sivang | what features? | 12:14 |
| sivang | (using the tseng one) | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | just panelapplet functions | 12:15 |
| sivang | where is the tomboy howto, btw? | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | no longer have to launch it | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | I don't know | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | I will have to make another one | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | it never made it to the wiki | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | most people just use tseng's package | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | my beagle how to is still real popular | 12:15 |
| sivang | anyway, I think we've got someone to do the WP stuff for the book, what do you say? | 12:15 |
| hornbeck | but beagle is broke for hoary | 12:15 |
| littlegreenman | sivang, what is this tomboy thingy? | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | I say thats great | 12:16 |
| littlegreenman | or better | 12:16 |
| littlegreenman | hornbeck, what is this tomboy thingy? :D | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | tomboy is a note taking program | 12:16 |
| sivang | an amazing reminder proggy, which act as a local wiki :) | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | real easy to use | 12:16 |
| sivang | tomboy ---> ROCKS | 12:16 |
| sivang | ! | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | yes, it does | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | I have to go eat guys | 12:16 |
| hornbeck | email the list if you would like to help with the book :-) | 12:17 |
| sivang | no rpob, will you talk to littlegreenman on his plans ? | 12:17 |
| hornbeck | we need help | 12:17 |
| littlegreenman | me too... | 12:17 |
| littlegreenman | i will email the list later | 12:17 |
| sivang | great, btw the outline is very good, I think hornbeck would like to see it | 12:17 |
| sivang | :) | 12:17 |
| littlegreenman | thanks :) | 12:18 |
| littlegreenman | man, am i tired.... | 12:18 |
| sivang | ah, I | 12:18 |
| littlegreenman | working full time than go home and work some more | 12:19 |
| sivang | 've gotten up today at around 5:00pm..after a sleepless night :) | 12:19 |
| sivang | what do you work on? | 12:19 |
| sivang | (if that's ok to ask) | 12:19 |
| littlegreenman | it's fine... don't have many privacy issues :) | 12:19 |
| littlegreenman | during the day in a hotel in lisbon | 12:19 |
| littlegreenman | at night, ehehehe translations | 12:19 |
| littlegreenman | english-portuguese-english | 12:19 |
| sivang | ah, the scropions performed there! | 12:19 |
| sivang | :) | 12:19 |
| littlegreenman | :) | 12:20 |
| sivang | I regretted not being on that amazing performance | 12:20 |
| littlegreenman | when was that? | 12:20 |
| sivang | 4 years ago I think, | 12:20 |
| sivang | when their last new album went out | 12:20 |
| littlegreenman | i was in england than | 12:20 |
| littlegreenman | (btw not going to bother with spelling errors ) | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | :) | 12:21 |
| sivang | I see. | 12:21 |
| sivang | who me? | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | me | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | me | 12:21 |
| sivang | I have alot of them,, | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | :D | 12:21 |
| sivang | not native english speaker | 12:21 |
| sivang | :) | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | need also to do some work on my hotel's website... it sucks..... | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | it was horrible when i joined | 12:21 |
| littlegreenman | but i did a patchy thing | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | and now looks like this | 12:22 |
| sivang | is it PHP? | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | www.hotel-internacional.com | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | pure HTML | 12:22 |
| sivang | (you have a link) | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | just text | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | i am not really a webdesigner | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | my first or second attempt really | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | but i am growing more and more embarassed of it | 12:22 |
| littlegreenman | so, need to do something | 12:23 |
| littlegreenman | btw PHP - i don't program never have... not sure what it means :) | 12:23 |
| sivang | it's an open source language | 12:23 |
| sivang | for doing server processed web pages. | 12:23 |
| sivang | generate HTML on the fly etc.. | 12:23 |
| littlegreenman | oh... it's a preety static thing i need | 12:24 |
| littlegreenman | always the same... all that changes is sometimes a promotion or something | 12:24 |
| littlegreenman | but i got a new set of photos really cool of the hotel.. those are OLD | 12:24 |
| littlegreenman | so, want to make it more inviting... like, hey I wanna go there :) | 12:24 |
| sivang | if I come do I get a discount? ;-) | 12:25 |
| sivang | hehe | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | and we are going to hire a webdesigner, but that is only next here... so for the meantime they are stuck with me hehe | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | :D | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | you would get some port | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | :D | 12:25 |
| sivang | I see there's an online reservation system, is this yours? | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | ok, need to go to the shop, will be back in a bit | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | no | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | outsourcing | 12:25 |
| littlegreenman | just put it up today | 12:26 |
| sivang | I see. nice | 12:26 |
| littlegreenman | that's when i though, wait, i need to do something about this | 12:26 |
| sivang | maybe you should investigate PHP and mySQL, is the server a linux one? | 12:26 |
| littlegreenman | not sure, never checked... probably NT or something | 12:26 |
| sivang | ok, anyway, I have to go...Talk to hornbeck on the book and the stuff you want to add, he needs some help on it :) | 12:27 |
| littlegreenman | :D | 12:27 |
| littlegreenman | i'll do my best | 12:27 |
| littlegreenman | take care | 12:27 |
| sivang | you too! C'ya for the meanwhile | 12:27 |
| littlegreenman | need to go as well :D | 12:27 |
| plovs | good morning people! | 06:51 |
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| trickie | hello all | 08:43 |
| trickie | would most of the changes on the page http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WikiWishlist be made to the plone software? | 08:44 |
| trickie | if feel up to some of those task... just wanna get an idea of where to start | 08:45 |
| trickie | i mean i feel up to some of those tasks | 08:45 |
| plovs_work | trickie, answer to the mailinglist, most things things will be in plone | 08:52 |
| plovs_work | trickie, and it would be great if some could be implemented with your help | 08:52 |
| trickie | plovs_work, np... will do | 08:55 |
| trickie | plovs_work, whats moin? Sorry, haven't used zope very much, but done a bit of python work | 08:56 |
| plovs_work | moin is the previous wiki we used wiki.ubuntulinux.org based on http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ | 09:00 |
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| lulu | Morning all :o) | 10:29 |
| === ChrisH carefully takes a peek from under the bed sheets | ||
| trickie_ | lulu, morning! | 10:38 |
| lulu | trickie_:good morning :o) | 10:38 |
| plovs_work | morning all | 10:42 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, did you ever make a bootable usb-key under linux? | 10:42 |
| trickie_ | well it is evening here... but i hope it is a glorious morning for you all, it is finally getting warm (summer!) where is am | 10:42 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Not yet. But i always wanted. :) My mainboard supports booting from USB. Might be fun. | 10:43 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: I'd also like to try out PXE boot. | 10:43 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, well, when i get it to work i'll let you know | 10:45 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, i need to make a ghost usb-key | 10:45 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: Cool. :) | 10:46 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, it would be cool if i were a little smarter and a little less handsome | 10:49 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, it doesn't want to work yet | 10:49 |
| ChrisH | plovs_work: All that boot stuff is not really trivial. Ask sivang. He had trouble himself. | 10:50 |
| plovs_work | ChrisH, i love this stuff, though, i think it is utterly neat | 10:51 |
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| George^Deka | hi all | 12:58 |
| ChrisH | George^Deka: Hi... | 01:00 |
| lulu | George^Deka: hi :o) | 01:10 |
| plovs_work | George^Deka, hi | 01:19 |
| George^Deka | btw, is there anything i have promised to do and havent yet | 01:20 |
| George^Deka | this is my workflow - hehehe | 01:20 |
| George^Deka | if someone can be bothered tell me what we wamt/need from a workflow type of system, (email me) | 02:04 |
| hornbeck | good morning | 02:13 |
| George^Deka | morning/nite hornbeck | 02:14 |
| George^Deka | does anyone here know how to code? | 02:14 |
| hornbeck | I do | 02:15 |
| hornbeck | what you looking for? | 02:15 |
| George^Deka | well, check my ML post just now | 02:15 |
| George^Deka | what can you code in | 02:15 |
| ChrisH | Now we need a work flow for the task list? | 02:16 |
| === ChrisH wonders | ||
| hornbeck | I use python, Common Lisp, C++, Java, and alittle C | 02:16 |
| George^Deka | well i use the word workflow all the time (im an accountant) | 02:17 |
| George^Deka | and a manager (well wanna be manager) | 02:17 |
| George^Deka | accounting/managment is where my training is | 02:17 |
| hornbeck | I'm a manager and don't use the word workflow | 02:17 |
| hornbeck | asp is used quite nicely in mono | 02:19 |
| George^Deka | thats asp.net | 02:19 |
| George^Deka | not asp | 02:19 |
| hornbeck | ok | 02:21 |
| George^Deka | hows this look? http://www.gotocode.com/apps.asp?app_id=13 | 02:22 |
| plovs_work | anybody wants to by a usb-key it has slight scratches from being trampled on with too feet, being thrown against the wall twice, and small hammer-marks | 02:25 |
| George^Deka | plovs_work: and its still a usb key ? | 02:26 |
| plovs_work | it still has the little cord you can carry it around your neck with | 02:28 |
| hornbeck | haha | 02:28 |
| plovs_work | i am trying to make a bootable usb key | 02:28 |
| plovs_work | but i admit defeat and use a bootable cd instead | 02:29 |
| George^Deka | hahaha, yep so much easier | 02:29 |
| plovs_work | did any of you make a bootable cd with menus etc? | 02:31 |
| plovs_work | it's for norton ghost | 02:32 |
| George^Deka | what do you mean exactly ? | 02:32 |
| plovs_work | boot cd -> see menu -> choose intel100pro -> boot dos/netboot&run ghost -> copy image from server -> have tea | 02:33 |
| hornbeck | would that be earl gray tea with milk and sugar | 02:35 |
| George^Deka | umm, never done it like that, made dos ones only - so it boots dos then gives you a choice - but if thats what you wnat email me and ill get back to you | 02:35 |
| plovs_work | no milk,no sugar, a slice of lemon would be nice, thank you | 02:35 |
| George^Deka | bedtime cya's later (monday i suppose) | 02:35 |
| hornbeck | night | 02:35 |
| plovs_work | George^Deka, see ya! | 02:36 |
| plovs_work | hornbeck, how's svn? the same? | 02:36 |
| hornbeck | yep | 02:36 |
| George^Deka | well decided ill leave it open for a few more min while i have a smoke | 02:36 |
| hornbeck | I even talked to some svn guys | 02:36 |
| hornbeck | I will just hope everything is ok till we move it to the Ubuntu Servers | 02:37 |
| hornbeck | you worked on the faq I see? | 02:37 |
| plovs_work | a little, no time, i'm afraid | 02:38 |
| hornbeck | I understand that | 02:38 |
| George^Deka | cyas again | 02:40 |
| plovs_work | you still use monowall? | 02:41 |
| hornbeck | nope no monowall | 02:41 |
| hornbeck | could never get it to talk with my isp | 02:42 |
| hornbeck | I am having to use a small netgear router | 02:42 |
| hornbeck | I will be putting in a small cisco in about a month | 02:42 |
| plovs_work | networking voodoo it is | 02:45 |
| plovs_work | nothing works today, now i cannot even make a bootable cd | 02:46 |
| hornbeck | haha | 02:47 |
| hornbeck | man you are having bad luck huh? | 02:47 |
| plovs_work | i did get a new monitor, that was nice, with a dvi connection even | 02:48 |
| plovs_work | but that was yesterday, it was not snowing then | 02:49 |
| plovs_work | i hate snow | 02:49 |
| plovs_work | unless it's on a tv, which i can turn off | 02:49 |
| plovs_work | well, at least knoppix still boots | 02:54 |
| hornbeck | thats at least good | 02:58 |
| plovs_work | hornbeck, so what are you up to today? | 02:59 |
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| hornbeck | plovs_work: I am playing with plone | 03:12 |
| hornbeck | got a zope server running right now | 03:13 |
| hornbeck | about to try and route it through apache | 03:13 |
| plovs_work | hornbeck, nice | 03:15 |
| hornbeck | yeah, but it is giving me all kinds of errors | 03:17 |
| sivang | hey all | 03:34 |
| hornbeck | hey | 03:36 |
| sivang | hey hornbeck, did you work out with littlegreenman on the Word Proccessing part of the book? He seemed eager and with the knowhow in WPs | 03:37 |
| hornbeck | no I left before you did | 03:43 |
| hornbeck | and he left right after you did | 03:43 |
| sivang | ah ok, he seemed very eager to work with you, make sure you keep up on him. | 03:59 |
| hornbeck | I will | 04:18 |
| hornbeck | anybody around? | 06:23 |
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| hornbeck | hey Robert | 06:35 |
| hornbeck | how you doing? | 06:35 |
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| === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://irclog.workaround.org | this channel has split personality, it may also be referred as "ubuntu-love" and all new comers are welcome! | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by sivang at Sat Nov 13 15:52:21 2004 | ||
| (ChrisH/#ubuntu-doc) Gonne be offline for up to half an hour. ISP is changing something. | 07:34 | |
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| (lulu/#ubuntu-doc) night guys :o) | 07:50 | |
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| (sivang/#ubuntu-doc) is there anybody awake here? | 11:02 | |
| === enrico is | ||
| enrico | (not for much) | 11:17 |
| (sivang/#ubuntu-doc) haha | 11:17 | |
| ChrisH | me neither... about to go to bed... see you in my dreams :) | 11:39 |
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