[12:00] this also should be task orientd, [12:00] as in : [12:01] 1) Intro - why use Ooo at the first place? how does it comapre to proprierity software : lists of features that are already compatible with msword/other pro. wp soft. [12:01] 2) Tasks index: [12:02] 2.1 : Your first document in the FOSS compatible (nice to have instructions to at least 3 FOSS wps) [12:03] 2.2 : Adding pictures. [12:03] 2.3 : Writing web pages in the wp. [12:03] etc... [12:03] etc.. [12:03] what is FOSS? [12:03] not specifically in that order :) [12:03] :) [12:03] FOSS= Free OPen Soure Software [12:03] :) [12:04] i have a little thingy done [12:04] see in the wiki [12:04] LearningOpenOfficeWordOutline [12:04] As I am thinking of it, if you could create like a whole section for this, with coming up docs on even [12:04] "Using GIMP for photoshop users" [12:04] etc. [12:05] yeah [12:05] get my idea? [12:05] i do... === littlegreenman has time constraints until the end of the week [12:05] great. YOu're a heavy desktop user? [12:05] but wanna help as much as i can :D [12:05] no problem on the time constraints [12:05] thank you! [12:05] :) [12:05] sivang, explain desktop user [12:07] like someone who is very proficient with desktop usage, [12:07] like knows WP for well, desktop hacks :) [12:07] image processing stuff [12:07] IMing. [12:07] :) [12:07] stuff like that [12:07] I always envied those desktop masters (even in windows) who knew 2 keys shortcut to everything on the desktop :) [12:07] yeah :) [12:08] what i am going to do [12:08] is take a look at *gulp* office manuals [12:08] and see also how they are written... set up [12:08] they have a headstart over us :D [12:09] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LearningUbuntuOutline <== take a look in it, I hope it doesn't collide with your wishes..if so maybe you can add stuff to their's? [12:10] this is done by hornbeck and about 2 other people, maybe talk to him also? [12:10] + post to ML :) [12:10] what is gulp office? [12:10] *gulp* is [12:11] swalling dry :) as in i am embarassed [12:11] but i looked into office :D [12:11] why embarassed? [12:11] :) [12:12] I don't see they have a wp section, maybe you can be in charge of it [12:12] hornbeck : ping [12:12] yes [12:12] :) [12:12] how you doing buddy? :) [12:12] busy as always? [12:12] always present :) === hornbeck is trying to set up a zope server [12:13] ah, are we starting our own wiki? :) [12:13] i like how he is always trying to set up something i never heard of! [12:13] need that icalender server [12:13] haha, his our "emerging technology" guy :) [12:13] everything just snaps out of the oven, hornbeck puts his hands on it and make it work. [12:13] :) [12:13] we want a icalender server so we can all use one task list [12:13] ah, in evo? [12:13] sivang: I try [12:13] yes in evo [12:14] zope is not playing nicely though [12:14] littlegreenman : he is very good at it :) but modest :) see if you can found the tomboy howto by him [12:14] very very cool proggy [12:14] been on my tray since :) [12:14] I use tomboy from cvs now [12:14] alot better [12:14] what features? [12:15] (using the tseng one) [12:15] just panelapplet functions [12:15] where is the tomboy howto, btw? [12:15] no longer have to launch it [12:15] I don't know [12:15] I will have to make another one [12:15] it never made it to the wiki [12:15] most people just use tseng's package [12:15] my beagle how to is still real popular [12:15] anyway, I think we've got someone to do the WP stuff for the book, what do you say? [12:15] but beagle is broke for hoary [12:16] sivang, what is this tomboy thingy? [12:16] I say thats great [12:16] or better [12:16] hornbeck, what is this tomboy thingy? :D [12:16] tomboy is a note taking program [12:16] an amazing reminder proggy, which act as a local wiki :) [12:16] real easy to use [12:16] tomboy ---> ROCKS [12:16] ! [12:16] yes, it does [12:16] I have to go eat guys [12:17] email the list if you would like to help with the book :-) [12:17] no rpob, will you talk to littlegreenman on his plans ? [12:17] we need help [12:17] me too... [12:17] i will email the list later [12:17] great, btw the outline is very good, I think hornbeck would like to see it [12:17] :) [12:18] thanks :) [12:18] man, am i tired.... [12:18] ah, I [12:19] working full time than go home and work some more [12:19] 've gotten up today at around 5:00pm..after a sleepless night :) [12:19] what do you work on? [12:19] (if that's ok to ask) [12:19] it's fine... don't have many privacy issues :) [12:19] during the day in a hotel in lisbon [12:19] at night, ehehehe translations [12:19] english-portuguese-english [12:19] ah, the scropions performed there! [12:19] :) [12:20] :) [12:20] I regretted not being on that amazing performance [12:20] when was that? [12:20] 4 years ago I think, [12:20] when their last new album went out [12:20] i was in england than [12:21] (btw not going to bother with spelling errors ) [12:21] :) [12:21] I see. [12:21] who me? [12:21] me [12:21] me [12:21] I have alot of them,, [12:21] :D [12:21] not native english speaker [12:21] :) [12:21] need also to do some work on my hotel's website... it sucks..... [12:21] it was horrible when i joined [12:22] but i did a patchy thing [12:22] and now looks like this [12:22] is it PHP? [12:22] www.hotel-internacional.com [12:22] pure HTML [12:22] (you have a link) [12:22] just text [12:22] i am not really a webdesigner [12:22] my first or second attempt really [12:22] but i am growing more and more embarassed of it [12:23] so, need to do something [12:23] btw PHP - i don't program never have... not sure what it means :) [12:23] it's an open source language [12:23] for doing server processed web pages. [12:23] generate HTML on the fly etc.. [12:24] oh... it's a preety static thing i need [12:24] always the same... all that changes is sometimes a promotion or something [12:24] but i got a new set of photos really cool of the hotel.. those are OLD [12:24] so, want to make it more inviting... like, hey I wanna go there :) [12:25] if I come do I get a discount? ;-) [12:25] hehe [12:25] and we are going to hire a webdesigner, but that is only next here... so for the meantime they are stuck with me hehe [12:25] :D [12:25] you would get some port [12:25] :D [12:25] I see there's an online reservation system, is this yours? [12:25] ok, need to go to the shop, will be back in a bit [12:25] no [12:25] outsourcing [12:26] just put it up today [12:26] I see. nice [12:26] that's when i though, wait, i need to do something about this [12:26] maybe you should investigate PHP and mySQL, is the server a linux one? [12:26] not sure, never checked... probably NT or something [12:27] ok, anyway, I have to go...Talk to hornbeck on the book and the stuff you want to add, he needs some help on it :) [12:27] :D [12:27] i'll do my best [12:27] take care [12:27] you too! C'ya for the meanwhile [12:27] need to go as well :D [06:51] good morning people! === trickie [~trickie@203-217-34-161.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:43] hello all [08:44] would most of the changes on the page http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WikiWishlist be made to the plone software? [08:45] if feel up to some of those task... just wanna get an idea of where to start [08:45] i mean i feel up to some of those tasks [08:52] trickie, answer to the mailinglist, most things things will be in plone [08:52] trickie, and it would be great if some could be implemented with your help [08:55] plovs_work, np... will do [08:56] plovs_work, whats moin? Sorry, haven't used zope very much, but done a bit of python work [09:00] moin is the previous wiki we used wiki.ubuntulinux.org based on http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ === trickie_ [~trickie@203-217-34-161.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === optika [russell@shell.rucus.ru.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silbs [~sbsm0084@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lulu [~lu@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:29] Morning all :o) === ChrisH carefully takes a peek from under the bed sheets [10:38] lulu, morning! [10:38] trickie_:good morning :o) [10:42] morning all [10:42] ChrisH, did you ever make a bootable usb-key under linux? [10:42] well it is evening here... but i hope it is a glorious morning for you all, it is finally getting warm (summer!) where is am [10:43] plovs_work: Not yet. But i always wanted. :) My mainboard supports booting from USB. Might be fun. [10:43] plovs_work: I'd also like to try out PXE boot. [10:45] ChrisH, well, when i get it to work i'll let you know [10:45] ChrisH, i need to make a ghost usb-key [10:46] plovs_work: Cool. :) [10:49] ChrisH, it would be cool if i were a little smarter and a little less handsome [10:49] ChrisH, it doesn't want to work yet [10:50] plovs_work: All that boot stuff is not really trivial. Ask sivang. He had trouble himself. [10:51] ChrisH, i love this stuff, though, i think it is utterly neat === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc === George^Deka [~george@228.c.012.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:58] hi all [01:00] George^Deka: Hi... [01:10] George^Deka: hi :o) [01:19] George^Deka, hi [01:20] btw, is there anything i have promised to do and havent yet [01:20] this is my workflow - hehehe [02:04] if someone can be bothered tell me what we wamt/need from a workflow type of system, (email me) [02:13] good morning [02:14] morning/nite hornbeck [02:14] does anyone here know how to code? [02:15] I do [02:15] what you looking for? [02:15] well, check my ML post just now [02:15] what can you code in [02:16] Now we need a work flow for the task list? === ChrisH wonders [02:16] I use python, Common Lisp, C++, Java, and alittle C [02:17] well i use the word workflow all the time (im an accountant) [02:17] and a manager (well wanna be manager) [02:17] accounting/managment is where my training is [02:17] I'm a manager and don't use the word workflow [02:19] asp is used quite nicely in mono [02:19] thats asp.net [02:19] not asp [02:21] ok [02:22] hows this look? http://www.gotocode.com/apps.asp?app_id=13 [02:25] anybody wants to by a usb-key it has slight scratches from being trampled on with too feet, being thrown against the wall twice, and small hammer-marks [02:26] plovs_work: and its still a usb key ? [02:28] it still has the little cord you can carry it around your neck with [02:28] haha [02:28] i am trying to make a bootable usb key [02:29] but i admit defeat and use a bootable cd instead [02:29] hahaha, yep so much easier [02:31] did any of you make a bootable cd with menus etc? [02:32] it's for norton ghost [02:32] what do you mean exactly ? [02:33] boot cd -> see menu -> choose intel100pro -> boot dos/netboot&run ghost -> copy image from server -> have tea [02:35] would that be earl gray tea with milk and sugar [02:35] umm, never done it like that, made dos ones only - so it boots dos then gives you a choice - but if thats what you wnat email me and ill get back to you [02:35] no milk,no sugar, a slice of lemon would be nice, thank you [02:35] bedtime cya's later (monday i suppose) [02:35] night [02:36] George^Deka, see ya! [02:36] hornbeck, how's svn? the same? [02:36] yep [02:36] well decided ill leave it open for a few more min while i have a smoke [02:36] I even talked to some svn guys [02:37] I will just hope everything is ok till we move it to the Ubuntu Servers [02:37] you worked on the faq I see? [02:38] a little, no time, i'm afraid [02:38] I understand that [02:40] cyas again [02:41] you still use monowall? [02:41] nope no monowall [02:42] could never get it to talk with my isp [02:42] I am having to use a small netgear router [02:42] I will be putting in a small cisco in about a month [02:45] networking voodoo it is [02:46] nothing works today, now i cannot even make a bootable cd [02:47] haha [02:47] man you are having bad luck huh? [02:48] i did get a new monitor, that was nice, with a dvi connection even [02:49] but that was yesterday, it was not snowing then [02:49] i hate snow [02:49] unless it's on a tv, which i can turn off [02:54] well, at least knoppix still boots [02:58] thats at least good [02:59] hornbeck, so what are you up to today? === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mercurus [~mercurus@pipp-p-144-138-229-133.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sivang [~sivang@80.179.93.130.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:12] plovs_work: I am playing with plone [03:13] got a zope server running right now [03:13] about to try and route it through apache [03:15] hornbeck, nice [03:17] yeah, but it is giving me all kinds of errors [03:34] hey all [03:36] hey [03:37] hey hornbeck, did you work out with littlegreenman on the Word Proccessing part of the book? He seemed eager and with the knowhow in WPs [03:43] no I left before you did [03:43] and he left right after you did [03:59] ah ok, he seemed very eager to work with you, make sure you keep up on him. [04:18] I will [06:23] anybody around? === rcaskey [~rcaskey@cai17.music.uga.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:35] hey Robert [06:35] how you doing? === littlepaul [~littlepau@pD9E21BBF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Topic for #ubuntu-doc: Ubuntu Doc Team - general discussion - backlog at http://irclog.workaround.org | this channel has split personality, it may also be referred as "ubuntu-love" and all new comers are welcome! === Topic (#ubuntu-doc): set by sivang at Sat Nov 13 15:52:21 2004 [07:34] (ChrisH/#ubuntu-doc) Gonne be offline for up to half an hour. ISP is changing something. === pl0vs [~Administr@62.84.21.44] has joined #ubuntu-doc === maskie [~maskie@196-30-111-75.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:50] (lulu/#ubuntu-doc) night guys :o) === lulu [~lu@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === ChrisH [~chaas@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === silbs [~sbsm0084@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === skyrider_univer [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mercurus_ [~mercurus@pipp-p-144-138-229-195.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:02] (sivang/#ubuntu-doc) is there anybody awake here? === enrico is [11:17] (not for much) [11:17] (sivang/#ubuntu-doc) haha [11:39] me neither... about to go to bed... see you in my dreams :)