| mxpxpod | Keybuk: and it's in a patch that has a bunch of stuff in it | 12:01 |
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| wasabi | heh. changelogs. | 12:01 |
| wasabi | You use kernel-package? | 12:03 |
| wasabi | doesn't it generate kernel-image packages, and not linux-image? | 12:03 |
| wasabi | ANd not all those cool symlink stuff. | 12:03 |
| wasabi | Or was that fixed? :) | 12:03 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) the only difference between kernel-image and linux-image is the name afaik | 12:03 | |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) i hope someone can enlighten us otherwise | 12:04 | |
| wasabi | well linux-source packages are a bit different. | 12:04 |
| wasabi | They use a symlink farm of some sort in /usr/src | 12:04 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) no kidding, thats why its called -source | 12:04 | |
| wasabi | make-kpkg never build those for me with kernel_source. | 12:04 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) never built the linux-source? | 12:05 | |
| wasabi | the symlink farms. | 12:05 |
| mxpxpod | is there a reason ubuntu hasn't upgraded to 2.6.9? | 12:05 |
| wasabi | it just makes flat dirs in /usr/src | 12:05 |
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| FTTP | hi | 12:13 |
| FTTP | any hoary isos working yet? | 12:13 |
| FTTP | tried a developmental snapshot which had issues | 12:13 |
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| Keybuk | what kind of issues? | 12:17 |
| eruin | the 2.6.9 I tried had some crazy issues with kswapd | 12:17 |
| FTTP | keybuk: Installer screen came out all messed up | 12:17 |
| FTTP | it was not usable | 12:17 |
| FTTP | its only a dev so.... | 12:17 |
| FTTP | keybuk: Was work done to the newest daily snapshot? | 12:18 |
| FTTP | or are there any releases which i can try for hoary which are more stable than the others? | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | not that I'm aware of ... I've not heard that bug | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | is it in Bugzilla (opened or closed?) | 12:18 |
| FTTP | keybuk: I didnt report it | 12:18 |
| FTTP | should I try the newest snapshot and report it? | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | sure | 12:19 |
| FTTP | if it occurs again | 12:19 |
| FTTP | ok | 12:19 |
| FTTP | keybuk you a developer for ubuntu? | 12:19 |
| Keybuk | ish | 12:21 |
| Keybuk | :p | 12:21 |
| FTTP | ish? | 12:21 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) Keybuk: pft, you're well an ubuntu dev. :) | 12:22 | |
| Keybuk | I work for Canonical, but most of my time isn't working on Ubuntu itself at the moment | 12:23 |
| FTTP | ahh | 12:24 |
| FTTP | what are you responsible for? | 12:24 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) Keybuk: you're still an ubuntu developer, though | 12:24 | |
| Keybuk | FTTP: "Special Projects", heh | 12:24 |
| FTTP | such as? | 12:24 |
| FTTP | or they cant be disclosed so they are SPECIAL :) | 12:24 |
| wasabi | assassinating high level redhet executives. | 12:24 |
| FTTP | hehe | 12:24 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: I didn't even have my key in the keyring until last week! | 12:25 |
| Keybuk | FTTP: heh, it's a joke ... Special Projects is the mythical dept. people get transferred to before they're made redundant | 12:26 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) Keybuk: you didn't? that actually surprises me :) | 12:26 | |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: nah, almost the only stuff I've uploaded have been that big match of first-run merges | 12:28 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: would *you* want him uploading to Ubuntu? | 12:29 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: mdz just has good taste ;) | 12:29 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) daniels: sure, I need my daily dose of crack. | 12:29 | |
| sivang | Keybuk : have you spotted my BOF proposal for a python workshop? What do you think? :) | 12:29 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) Keybuk: I haven't uploaded much either, though. | 12:29 | |
| Keybuk | sivang: I thought "cool" :) | 12:29 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: craaaaaack | 12:30 |
| Keybuk | daniels: heh, the trouble with filling mdz's shoes on Tuesday was THEY'RE TOO SMALL! :p | 12:30 |
| daniels | heh :) | 12:30 |
| sivang | Keybuk : Feel free to add your comments there, maybe a list of requested reading before it, I want to come prepared :) | 12:31 |
| FTTP | any 24 hour a day coders over at canocal? | 12:31 |
| FTTP | :P | 12:31 |
| FTTP | heh | 12:31 |
| daniels | FTTP: no, but I've hardly left my laptop in the last 5 days :P | 12:31 |
| Keybuk | sivang: "Dive into Python" :) | 12:31 |
| FTTP | daniels: u know the link for the hoary isos? | 12:31 |
| FTTP | the snapshots | 12:31 |
| sivang | Keybuk : ah, then I'm already set :) | 12:32 |
| FTTP | cant seem to find the link | 12:32 |
| daniels | FTTP: http://archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/, I'd imagine | 12:32 |
| FTTP | ahhh | 12:32 |
| FTTP | thanks | 12:32 |
| daniels | Keybuk: speaking of Python -- http://gabe.freedesktop.org/~daniels/old-to-new-ldap.py | 12:32 |
| FTTP | ill bookmark that :P | 12:32 |
| daniels | Keybuk: check that baby out :) | 12:32 |
| daniels | Keybuk: the two password crypting functions are stolen from userdir-ldap, the rest is mine | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | daniels: what does that *do* ? | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | FTTP: we have coders in every timezone | 12:32 |
| Keybuk | and I've certainly done the odd 24+ when I've not noticed the sun come up again | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: takes an ldif of our old ldap database, generates an ldif of the new-format setup | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: lies | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: there's no-one in +1300 (NZ) | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | daniels: pedant :p you knew what I meant :p | 12:33 |
| daniels | or +0950, or +1050, or +1000 | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | daniels: aww, so it doesn't convert woody-era ldap to sarge-era ldap? :( | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: but yeah, the code is pretty horrible | 12:33 |
| stratus | -0300 ? | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: nope, just different formats of database | 12:33 |
| FTTP | keybuk: Shouldnt you be coding now ? :) | 12:33 |
| FTTP | heh | 12:33 |
| daniels | stratus: wtf is that? | 12:33 |
| FTTP | oh wait your in special projects | 12:33 |
| FTTP | i fergot | 12:33 |
| Keybuk | daniels: *cry* ... my ldap server is broke because of that | 12:33 |
| daniels | Keybuk: i.e. one from some horrid abortion called usradm to userdir-ldap | 12:33 |
| FTTP | :P | 12:34 |
| Keybuk | keeps bitching about records not being structural | 12:34 |
| daniels | Keybuk: should happen ... oh, wack | 12:34 |
| daniels | Keybuk: how many records? | 12:34 |
| stratus | daniels, BRT of course. | 12:34 |
| daniels | stratus: oh, right | 12:34 |
| daniels | stratus: is that in line with us est, or is it an hour ahead? | 12:34 |
| daniels | stratus: because we have someone in est | 12:34 |
| Keybuk | daniels: not a huge number | 12:35 |
| Keybuk | but I can't figure out what it's talking about | 12:35 |
| wasabi | oye. | 12:35 |
| Keybuk | and how I'm supposed to solve it | 12:35 |
| stratus | daniels, i guess not, checking... | 12:35 |
| daniels | Keybuk: meh, just do it by hand | 12:35 |
| wasabi | dpkg is ugly | 12:35 |
| daniels | Keybuk: probably to do with your objectClasses | 12:35 |
| Keybuk | I added a silly structural record type to them all | 12:35 |
| Keybuk | then it bitched about having two structural types in some of the fields | 12:35 |
| Keybuk | and I declared that I couldn't win | 12:35 |
| stratus | daniels, no EST is -0500 | 12:35 |
| daniels | stratus: ah. in any case, actually, we do have people there. | 12:36 |
| FTTP | keybuy: Array1 is more stable right? | 12:36 |
| FTTP | err keybuk | 12:36 |
| stratus | daniels, np but not at -0300 ! | 12:36 |
| FTTP | i tried the daily last time | 12:36 |
| daniels | Keybuk: you can never win with LDAP | 12:36 |
| daniels | Keybuk: just lose less horrendously badly | 12:36 |
| daniels | stratus: yes we do :) | 12:36 |
| daniels | stratus: i just realised we have some people in brazil | 12:36 |
| Keybuk | FTTP: *shrug* Array has Colin's hand-built touch | 12:36 |
| Keybuk | so theoretically it's more ... testable | 12:36 |
| FTTP | yep | 12:36 |
| FTTP | :P | 12:36 |
| Keybuk | daniels: tell me about it | 12:36 |
| seb128 | hum, the archive is not updated ? | 12:36 |
| stratus | daniels, oh yes the guys at async? | 12:36 |
| Keybuk | from what I could tell, posixGroup is structural -- but then posixAccount *isn't* | 12:37 |
| seb128 | the new gnumeric has built for hours and is still not available | 12:37 |
| wasabi | Keybuk, you know much about parsedb and pkginfo struct? | 12:37 |
| daniels | stratus: aye | 12:37 |
| Keybuk | but organization is structural ... so what if something's both an Organisation and a POSIX Group?! | 12:37 |
| stratus | daniels, i see | 12:37 |
| Keybuk | wasabi: yeah, it's just a linked list of the state file | 12:37 |
| wasabi | Posix group is messed up | 12:38 |
| wasabi | nss_ldap also reads groupOfUniqueNames | 12:38 |
| daniels | Keybuk: yeah, don't use posixAccount | 12:38 |
| wasabi | I believe. | 12:38 |
| Keybuk | well, I changed posixGroup anyway to have "gid" instead of "cn" | 12:38 |
| daniels | Keybuk: i use top/inetOrgPerson/shadowAccount/debianAccount/debianDeveloper | 12:38 |
| Keybuk | so maybe I just need to change that to be auxiliary | 12:38 |
| wasabi | posixGroup is a pretty dumb class. | 12:38 |
| Keybuk | daniels: top isn't structural :-o | 12:38 |
| daniels | Keybuk: but iirc the old stuff was top/posixAccount/shadowAccount | 12:38 |
| daniels | Keybuk: in that case, none of our records are, but sarge/warty's ldap still loves me \o/ | 12:39 |
| Keybuk | slapadd: dn="dc=netsplit,dc=com" (line=7): (65) no structural object class provided | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | objectClass: top | 12:41 |
| Keybuk | ^ yet | 12:41 |
| daniels | dn: dc=freedesktop,dc=org | 12:42 |
| daniels | objectClass: top | 12:42 |
| daniels | objectClass: dcObject | 12:42 |
| daniels | objectClass: organization | 12:42 |
| daniels | o: freedesktop.org | 12:42 |
| daniels | dc: freedesktop | 12:42 |
| Keybuk | organization is structural | 12:43 |
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| Keybuk | I hate ldap | 12:44 |
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| mojo | Good morning all fellows | 12:44 |
| (kylem/#ubuntu-devel) ldap >>>>>>> nis. | 12:44 | |
| FTTP | will ubuntu have enuff capital to compete with the likes of novell + redhat? | 12:44 |
| mojo | I no longer can sync with CVS from gnome.org/gnome-icons | 12:45 |
| FTTP | developers are top notch i know | 12:45 |
| FTTP | :) | 12:45 |
| FTTP | but i worry about capital | 12:45 |
| mojo | does anyone know something wrong with the CVS server? | 12:45 |
| Keybuk | FTTP: we have a similar amount of capital in the bank as RedHat, as I understand it | 12:45 |
| FTTP | keybuk: Novell has 500mil + | 12:45 |
| FTTP | it won a microsoft lawsuit <grin> | 12:45 |
| Keybuk | yeah, but Novell is a much larger business than Ximian | 12:45 |
| wasabi | yeah but redhat is making money. | 12:45 |
| daniels | kylem: represent | 12:46 |
| wasabi | =) | 12:46 |
| daniels | anyway, this is all horrifically offtopic (novell, ldap, stuff) | 12:46 |
| FTTP | anyways | 12:46 |
| (kylem/#ubuntu-devel) daniels, and take it from me, i administrate both. :( | 12:46 | |
| FTTP | burning dev cd | 12:46 |
| FTTP | keybuk: We will see :) | 12:47 |
| FTTP | keybuk: When hoary comes out we will know more | 12:47 |
| Keybuk | FTTP: true, but then RedHat have to go begging for more money, we just have to excite the boss | 12:47 |
| Keybuk | actually, the "plan" is to be starting to make money in 18 months time | 12:47 |
| FTTP | shuttleworth is easy? :) | 12:47 |
| Keybuk | so more perky-era | 12:47 |
| FTTP | hehe | 12:47 |
| FTTP | keybuk: From what? just support? | 12:48 |
| FTTP | keybuk: I hope your right :) seen too many distros come out and go poof | 12:48 |
| FTTP | ubuntu has so much potential | 12:48 |
| FTTP | anyways back to dev chat | 12:48 |
| FTTP | ---------pretend im not here | 12:49 |
| FTTP | :P | 12:49 |
| wasabi | So, who "makes decisions"? | 12:51 |
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| Keybuk | wasabi: it's complicated | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | the developers make decisions | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | but if they can't reach consensus, they can ask either the technical board or the community council to make a decision for them | 12:52 |
| Keybuk | and if they can't reach consensus, we ask Mark | 12:53 |
| wasabi | Otherwise it's just like Debian, people do what they think they should do whenever? | 12:54 |
| Keybuk | kinda, the tech board and sabdfl both set direction for people to head in | 12:55 |
| wasabi | Hmm. | 12:56 |
| wasabi | Dpkg is confusing me to no end. | 12:57 |
| Keybuk | it's good at that | 12:57 |
| (sabdfl/#ubuntu-devel) it's usually the pointy end that gets the most confused by dpkg though | 12:57 | |
| wasabi | I found parsedb(), which reads hte control file... but I have no idea what it's doing with the values. | 12:58 |
| stratus | discarding them? :) | 12:58 |
| Keybuk | puts them in the package info list | 12:58 |
| wasabi | struct pkginfo? | 12:58 |
| jdz_ | Are there any plans for LTSP work in Ubuntu? | 01:00 |
| Keybuk | the package list is global, so it doesn't get passed in or out, just added to in general | 01:00 |
| Keybuk | oh, would it help to know findpackage always returns? | 01:04 |
| Keybuk | so if you try and find a package that doesn't exist, you get an empty record to fill in? | 01:05 |
| wasabi | heh. | 01:05 |
| wasabi | Right now im just trying to figure out how to expose my new control fields to the code. | 01:05 |
| Keybuk | thus pig=findpackage(newpig.name); actually makes a record | 01:05 |
| wasabi | And I don't understand the relation of the pkginfo struct to the deb and to the currently installed packages | 01:05 |
| Keybuk | add it to the fieldinfos | 01:05 |
| wasabi | if a package is currently installed, the pkginfo struct you receive makes note of it | 01:06 |
| wasabi | fieldinfos | 01:06 |
| wasabi | where? | 01:06 |
| Keybuk | top of parse.c | 01:07 |
| wasabi | oh. that. | 01:07 |
| wasabi | ;) | 01:07 |
| wasabi | f_whatever = type, w_whatever = ???, other col = ??? | 01:09 |
| Keybuk | name, read function, write function, offset in structure | 01:10 |
| Keybuk | (or some other integer you want to pass to them) | 01:11 |
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| FTTP | anyone know about module hid in hoary? | 01:20 |
| sivang | FTTP : it has one? doesn't it? | 01:20 |
| FTTP | lol | 01:21 |
| FTTP | i tried the developmental daily snapshot | 01:21 |
| FTTP | it says fatal error module hid not found | 01:21 |
| FTTP | so nope it doesnt | 01:21 |
| wasabi | Keybuk, in pkginfo, struct pkginfoperfile installed; struct pkginfoperfile available; Is available the instance of hte package attempting to be installed, and installation the one that is already installed (or null)? | 01:25 |
| Keybuk | installed is the one in the status file | 01:26 |
| Keybuk | available is the one "on the FTP site" | 01:26 |
| wasabi | cool. | 01:26 |
| Keybuk | (ie. in the available file) | 01:26 |
| Keybuk | neither are the one on disk | 01:26 |
| wasabi | eh? | 01:26 |
| wasabi | oh you mean in the archive? | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | yeah | 01:27 |
| wasabi | Yeah, the archive is just for apt. | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | remember, APT is a "relatively" new invention | 01:27 |
| wasabi | but if I do dpkg -i /blah/blah.deb, available refers to that one | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | no. | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | the available file is populated by "dselect update" | 01:27 |
| Keybuk | and mucked around with by dselect | 01:27 |
| wasabi | Well im totally confused then | 01:28 |
| wasabi | What is the one "being installed right now"? | 01:29 |
| Keybuk | neither | 01:29 |
| wasabi | well im totally confused then. | 01:29 |
| wasabi | parsedb(cidir, pdb_recordavailable|pdb_rejectstatus|pdb_ignorefiles|pdb_weakclassification, &pkg,NULL,NULL); | 01:29 |
| wasabi | does that not read the control file from the .deb being installed? | 01:30 |
| Keybuk | there's a "pkginqueue" struct | 01:30 |
| wasabi | not that I can see. | 01:30 |
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| FTTP | hid = Human interface device right? | 01:31 |
| FTTP | so thats the mouse, keyboard | 01:31 |
| wasabi | correct. | 01:31 |
| Keybuk | yeah, that call passes &pkg to parsedb (donep) so parsedb returns the pig | 01:31 |
| wasabi | pig stands for? | 01:32 |
| FTTP | wasabi can one submit code changes? | 01:32 |
| wasabi | FTTP, to? | 01:32 |
| FTTP | i mean suggestions | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | pig | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | piggy wiggy | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | go oink, have tails | 01:32 |
| wasabi | ... | 01:32 |
| FTTP | wasabi to fix bugs like hid not found :P | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | iwj likes calling packages pigs | 01:32 |
| wasabi | FTTP, I'd imagine so. | 01:32 |
| Keybuk | we don't ask why | 01:32 |
| wasabi | FTTP, bugzilla. | 01:32 |
| FTTP | wasabi ok | 01:32 |
| wasabi | okaaay. | 01:32 |
| FTTP | :) | 01:33 |
| wasabi | well hell. I dont get it. | 01:33 |
| Keybuk | K | 01:33 |
| wasabi | parsedb returns a pkginfo. This pkginfo has an installed and available struct. They are not representative of what is being installed. | 01:34 |
| wasabi | pkginqueue (which I cannot find) | 01:34 |
| wasabi | is. | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | ah, sorry | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | I see your confusion there | 01:34 |
| Keybuk | yeah, that parsedb call is told to fill the available pkginfoperfile struct | 01:35 |
| Keybuk | newpifp= (flags & pdb_recordavailable) ? &newpig.available : &newpig.installed | 01:35 |
| Keybuk | inside process_archive, pkg->available is the one you're processing, pkg->installed is the one you're replacing (if any) | 01:38 |
| Keybuk | I thought you were in another function (the one that calls process_archive) | 01:38 |
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| wasabi | Keybuk, if the field isn't found in the control file, w/f_whatever are not called, right? | 02:17 |
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| Keybuk | right | 02:20 |
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| ironwolf | daniels? | 02:38 |
| daniels | sup | 02:40 |
| ironwolf | daniels: when changing s3 to vesa and removing BUSID line, system boots to 640x480 unchangeable resolution. at ~256 color | 02:40 |
| ironwolf | it's ugly.. what next? | 02:40 |
| daniels | ugh | 02:40 |
| daniels | have you got a HorizSync and VertRefresh set of lines in there? if so, delete them and try that | 02:41 |
| ironwolf | nope, lines aren't there. | 02:41 |
| ironwolf | did you ever get lspci -vvv output? | 02:43 |
| daniels | can't remember, sorry | 02:44 |
| daniels | just plain lspci should be sufficient (you can paste it here if you like -- just the display line) | 02:44 |
| sivang | daniels : btw, are we anyway close with Xorg to be able to exploit capable displays for 100hz Vert refreshes? | 02:44 |
| daniels | sivang: um should work anyway if you just remove the HS/VR lines | 02:44 |
| daniels | and that's going away soon anyway | 02:44 |
| daniels | anyway, I have to go crash now | 02:46 |
| sivang | daniels : I remember fabbione told me that I Need to add a specific rate line.. | 02:46 |
| sivang | daniels : ok I will give it a try :) | 02:46 |
| sivang | night! | 02:46 |
| daniels | night | 02:46 |
| ironwolf | daniels: 0000:01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio 64 3D (rev 01) | 02:51 |
| ironwolf | night daniels. | 02:54 |
| mxpxpod | daniels: when did you say that fix for the UTF-8 stuff was going in? | 03:04 |
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| spotter | Is there a difference b/w a release w/ a -(num)ubuntu(num) version over a plain -(num) version | 04:47 |
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| fabbione | morning guys | 05:36 |
| shaya | fabbione: maybe you can answer this Q for me | 05:45 |
| shaya | <spotter> Is there a difference b/w a release w/ a -(num)ubuntu(num) version over a plain -(num) version | 05:45 |
| fabbione | shaya: i don't grok the question... | 05:47 |
| fabbione | is that for a package? | 05:47 |
| fabbione | or for the distro? | 05:47 |
| shaya | fabbione: package | 05:48 |
| shaya | for example, I'll upgade from a -2ubunutu1 versione package to a -3 version | 05:49 |
| shaya | then to a -3ubuntu1 | 05:49 |
| fabbione | shaya: the one with *ubuntu* are packages that contains modification | 05:49 |
| fabbione | done by us | 05:49 |
| fabbione | the others are plain imported from Debian | 05:49 |
| shaya | so in the above example, first they imported from Debian, then they redid the modifications? | 05:49 |
| fabbione | yes | 05:50 |
| shaya | is that a "safe" upgrade? | 05:50 |
| fabbione | shaya: it should | 05:50 |
| shaya | i guess its only an issue w/ hoary | 05:50 |
| shaya | [UPGRADE] zip 2.30-6ubuntu1 -> 2.30-8 | 05:50 |
| shaya | for instance | 05:50 |
| fabbione | if you are running hoary it might be not | 05:50 |
| fabbione | hoary is unstable | 05:50 |
| fabbione | and can break | 05:50 |
| shaya | yes yes | 05:50 |
| shaya | I ran unstable for 4 years on my work laptop | 05:51 |
| shaya | just need to get used to how hoary works | 05:51 |
| shaya | hence the Qs | 05:51 |
| fabbione | it's the same concept | 05:51 |
| shaya | personally, I think hoary would be a great name for unstable (though I guess warty would be too) | 05:51 |
| wasabi | I'm pretty happy not having a real unstable. | 05:57 |
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| mojo | ehem | 07:32 |
| mojo | can someone tell me how to enable the MPEG4 codec of RealPlayer 10 without recompiling? | 07:32 |
| fabbione | mojo: -> #ubuntu | 08:02 |
| fabbione | this is offtopic here | 08:02 |
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| fabbione | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of locales: | 12:07 |
| fabbione | locales depends on glibc-2.3.2.ds1-13ubuntu2; however: | 12:07 |
| fabbione | Package glibc-2.3.2.ds1-13ubuntu2 is not installed. | 12:07 |
| fabbione | since when glibc-2.3.2.ds1 is a package on its own? | 12:07 |
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| daniels | it's not | 12:12 |
| daniels | but ... huh | 12:12 |
| daniels | that first - needs to be a = | 12:12 |
| fabbione | ahh | 12:13 |
| fabbione | never mind | 12:13 |
| fabbione | i figured | 12:13 |
| fabbione | it was a leftover of a symlink in my archive | 12:14 |
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| sivang | Morning all | 12:19 |
| fabbione | daniels: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~fabbione/xresprobe.diff | 12:43 |
| fabbione | daniels: do you have any objection to this change? | 12:43 |
| fabbione | tested and it works | 12:43 |
| daniels | fabbione: please do the same for ia64 | 12:44 |
| fabbione | daniels: was it tested on ia64? | 12:45 |
| fabbione | ifeq ($(ARCH),sparc) | 12:46 |
| fabbione | DDC_OBJS += stub.o | 12:46 |
| fabbione | endif | 12:46 |
| fabbione | ifeq ($(ARCH),ia64) | 12:46 |
| fabbione | DDC_OBJS += stub.o | 12:46 |
| fabbione | endif | 12:46 |
| fabbione | ok? | 12:46 |
| daniels | looks good to me | 12:46 |
| sivang | daniels : btw, my cousin using your thinkpad-x40-package , got really AMAZED by it, I almost lost him to FC3, but then he broke up and cried for not having his WiFi support and came back :) hehe | 12:47 |
| fabbione | i can't test ia64 yet | 12:47 |
| fabbione | sparc works | 12:47 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) fabbione: that "yet" sounds dangerous.. getting one? :) | 12:47 | |
| daniels | sivang: heh! | 12:47 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: no way i am gonna buy ia64 :-) | 12:47 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) fabbione: I was more thinking of sabdfl throwing one in your direction to get xorg rocking on one. | 12:48 | |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: i think daniels will get access to the porting box | 12:49 |
| fabbione | + we already have the MANIFEST files | 12:49 |
| fabbione | and xorg builds fine there | 12:49 |
| fabbione | xresprobe is up | 12:49 |
| fabbione | i hate when katie is soooo silent | 12:51 |
| sivang | fabbione : who is katie? | 12:52 |
| infinity | katie's elmo's girlfriend. | 12:52 |
| fabbione | sivang: katie is one of elmo's gf | 12:53 |
| sivang | fabbione : one? how many does he have? :) | 12:53 |
| fabbione | several.. | 12:53 |
| infinity | A dozen or so. | 12:53 |
| infinity | At least. | 12:53 |
| fabbione | i think she is not around at all | 12:53 |
| daniels | infinity: at least two or three dozen | 12:53 |
| fabbione | daniels: could you see the message going trouh? | 12:54 |
| fabbione | trough? | 12:54 |
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| daniels | not yet, but I haven't been able to convince @c.c to love me yet | 12:56 |
| infinity | http://cvs.debian.org/dak/docs/README.names?rev=1.26&cvsroot=dak | 12:56 |
| infinity | Has he added more ladies for Ubuntu's use? | 12:56 |
| fabbione | infinity: i think so :-) | 12:56 |
| sivang | daniels : funny, he has all this hardware support, and complains about not having gaim 1.0.3 in warty, How rude! :) | 12:59 |
| daniels | heh | 01:00 |
| fabbione | i don't think they are running at all | 01:02 |
| fabbione | elmo: one of your gf is ill | 01:02 |
| fabbione | elmo: time to call the doctor | 01:02 |
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| Mitario | hello everyone | 01:46 |
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| Matt| | hi all. Sorry to butt in but I have a hoary question, and it's not gonna be answered in #ubuntu. I have a laptop. Since updating hoary yesterday I have lost the ability to plug in a mouse with xorg, and I can only use my touchpad. Anyone know the solution? haven't changed the configuration since updating. | 03:46 |
| RubenV | since the convert thing basically just copies the XF86 config, it should work | 03:47 |
| RubenV | i'm not an X whiz though | 03:47 |
| Matt| | no this was not the convert | 03:47 |
| Matt| | it was an xorg update | 03:47 |
| Matt| | was working fine with the last xorg packages before i updated | 03:48 |
| Matt| | RubenV, thanks for replying btw | 03:48 |
| RubenV | look in the changelogs of something concerning your mouse changed | 03:48 |
| RubenV | maybe that'll give a hint | 03:48 |
| Matt| | i'll try :/ | 03:48 |
| RubenV | Matt|: gotta do something to contribute | 03:49 |
| Matt| | me? | 03:49 |
| RubenV | giving some irc help is the best i can do at the moment for the open source community | 03:49 |
| Matt| | oh i c | 03:49 |
| Matt| | :) | 03:50 |
| RubenV | magnificent C skills coming up though ;) | 03:50 |
| Matt| | *grins* | 03:50 |
| Matt| | i have no such skills | 03:50 |
| Matt| | i am soon to be a lawyer ;p | 03:50 |
| RubenV | nice | 03:50 |
| Matt| | i was thinking that it would be amazing to work as a lawyer for an open source company | 03:50 |
| RubenV | defend the gpl | 03:50 |
| Matt| | yeah | 03:51 |
| Matt| | any idea where I would find the changelogs? | 03:51 |
| RubenV | synaptic has a way to do so | 03:53 |
| RubenV | it's in the menu somewhere | 03:53 |
| Matt| | oh ok | 03:53 |
| Matt| | RubenV, nope can't see anything | 03:56 |
| Matt| | there is a mouse thing, but a different protocol | 03:56 |
| RubenV | hmmm | 03:57 |
| RubenV | your X config is still intact? | 03:57 |
| RubenV | it's a laptop so i guess it's an usb mouse, does it get detected when you plug it in? | 03:58 |
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| Matt| | no it is ps2 | 03:59 |
| Matt| | xconfig seems ok | 03:59 |
| Matt| | when i plug it in, the light on the touchpad goes out, as it usually does when I plug a mouse in, but then it comes back on again. | 03:59 |
| Matt| | i've tried with 2 mice | 03:59 |
| Matt| | i guess i need to try a live disk to make sure it isn't a hardware error :( | 04:00 |
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| RubenV | normally, afaik PS2 is not plug'nplay | 04:07 |
| RubenV | but i could be wrong | 04:07 |
| RubenV | hardware ain't really my thing | 04:07 |
| Matt| | RubenV, mine has always worked fine like that. but I've rebooted too and it still doesn't work | 04:07 |
| Matt| | Be RiGhT bAcK i'll try and boot knoppix or something | 04:08 |
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| Matt| | RubenV, it doesn't work in knoppix either. Guess there must be something wrong with the mouse port :(((( | 04:16 |
| RubenV | Matt|: can't judge about that, i'm no hardware specialist | 04:17 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) you can't hotplug ps2 mice, no. ps2 keyboards you usually can, but some people claim to have fried their hardware doing that. | 04:17 | |
| Matt| | hi Mithrandir | 04:18 |
| (Mithrandir/#ubuntu-devel) hi Matt| | 04:22 | |
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| eruin | hehe, latest synaptic wants to run as root ;) | 05:24 |
| Matt| | that is normal no? | 05:26 |
| eruin | ie it asks for the root password, not the users password | 05:27 |
| Matt| | fine here | 05:27 |
| eruin | the password dialog says "Please enter root's password" | 05:28 |
| Matt| | if you're running it from the menu it should be gksudo /usr/bin/synaptic | 05:28 |
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| eruin | oh yeah, forgot to check that. the menu item got moved from the computer menu to the applications menu (system) and now spells gksu instead of gksudo | 05:30 |
| Matt| | eruin, you must have moved it ;) | 05:30 |
| Matt| | it's still in Computer here | 05:31 |
| eruin | nope, I just did a dist-upgrade thru synaptic and it moved all by itself | 05:31 |
| Matt| | dunno why that could be | 05:31 |
| eruin | what version you got installer? | 05:31 |
| eruin | *d | 05:31 |
| Matt| | hang on | 05:31 |
| Matt| | 0.55+cvs20041116-1 | 05:32 |
| eruin | <- 0.55+cvs20041119-1 | 05:32 |
| eruin | yeah. | 05:32 |
| Matt| | oh | 05:33 |
| Matt| | lemme see | 05:33 |
| Matt| | i guess they just take the packages from debian or something and forgot to change it | 05:33 |
| eruin | yeah, probably | 05:34 |
| Matt| | are you putting in a bug? | 05:36 |
| eruin | yeah, I thought I'd ask here first though... since it seems like just a slight goofup | 05:37 |
| Matt| | mm | 05:37 |
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| RubenV | mjg59: u there? | 05:56 |
| seb128 | elmo: libgnomeprintui sync please | 06:00 |
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| IRCMonkey_ | hi | 06:11 |
| IRCMonkey_ | is there a rescue mode on the CD ? | 06:11 |
| IRCMonkey_ | Why not ? | 06:11 |
| IRCMonkey_ | I have installed ubuntu on a slave disk without lilo and grub | 06:11 |
| IRCMonkey_ | I success to boot with a debian rescue disk | 06:12 |
| IRCMonkey_ | is it possible to add a mode rescue on the CD ? | 06:12 |
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| seb128 | elmo: sync for "libgnomeprintui gtksourceview glade-2 gail gtkhtml3.2" please :) | 06:42 |
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| (elmo/#ubuntu-devel) seb128: done | 07:09 | |
| seb128 | thanks | 07:10 |
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| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) mjg59: not putting up source packages for your uberkernels make bayb jeebus cry | 07:58 | |
| Matt| | hey daniels you do get around huh ;p | 08:00 |
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| daniels_ | bob2: why don't you just install the binary packages? | 08:03 |
| bob2_ | daniels_: foad, i386-boy | 08:03 |
| Matt| | hey daniels you do get around huh ;p | 08:04 |
| Matt| | come to visit our fine country? | 08:04 |
| daniels_ | Matt|: yeah, been here for a week | 08:05 |
| Matt| | ah k | 08:05 |
| Matt| | how do ya like it? | 08:05 |
| Matt| | bob2, you too huh? | 08:06 |
| daniels | yeah, not too bad | 08:06 |
| Matt| | *laughs* | 08:06 |
| Matt| | convincing ;) | 08:06 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) heh | 08:07 | |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) I'm amazed the eye doesn't fall over | 08:07 | |
| Matt| | LOL | 08:07 |
| daniels | Matt|: tired | 08:07 |
| Matt| | bob2, the sign of a true geek :) | 08:08 |
| Matt| | bob2, you've already calculated the engineering of the eye | 08:08 |
| Matt| | anyway have a nice time | 08:10 |
| sivang | do we have any known issues with usb cdroms, something about having /dev/sr0 instead of /dev/scd0 ? | 08:10 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) hah, the fact it stands shows I don't know jack about engineering | 08:11 | |
| Matt| | go and see the lloyds building it's cool | 08:11 |
| Matt| | if you want a tourist tip | 08:11 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) where's that? | 08:11 | |
| Matt| | hang on | 08:11 |
| Matt| | http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/Lloyds_Building.html | 08:12 |
| Matt| | it's like someone turned it inside out | 08:12 |
| Matt| | http://www.mykreeve.net/london/the_city/lloyds_building/ | 08:14 |
| Matt| | (if you have time for touristing) :) | 08:15 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) hah, not much, sadly | 08:16 | |
| Matt| | :( | 08:16 |
| Matt| | watcha doing here? | 08:16 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) some team stuff before the spain meeting | 08:20 | |
| Matt| | bonding huh | 08:21 |
| Matt| | :) | 08:21 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) hah, and drinking | 08:22 | |
| Matt| | well england is good for that :( | 08:22 |
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| Matt| | have fun guys | 08:28 |
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| spotter | anyone upgrade pmount today and screwed up their dvd mounting? | 08:33 |
| (mjg59/#ubuntu-devel) bob2: Heh. Good point. | 08:35 | |
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| lupus_ | still no package for transset available? | 08:45 |
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| Kyaneos | hi | 08:58 |
| zul | cool...i created my first deb | 09:09 |
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| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) that reminds me | 09:17 | |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) if i would like to see X package added to ubuntu | 09:17 | |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) do i need to have it sponsored in debian? | 09:18 | |
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| Keybuk | tseng: that's one way, certainly | 09:26 |
| Keybuk | we're still working out how direct-to-universe will work | 09:27 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) hm-k | 09:27 | |
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| Keybuk | certainly you should follow debian-policy and the maint-guide *anyway* | 09:29 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) yes :) | 09:29 | |
| Keybuk | the only difference between a correct Ubuntu package, and a correct Debian package is where you send it | 09:30 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) was looking for the proceedure to getting a package sponsored | 09:30 | |
| Keybuk | find a sponsor | 09:30 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) my packages are correct | 09:30 | |
| Keybuk | I think there's a website for that these days | 09:30 |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) im looking @ mentors.d.o | 09:30 | |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) oh, jdub added tomboy already | 09:33 | |
| (tseng/#ubuntu-devel) jdub: ping | 09:36 | |
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| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) mjg59: http://gate.crashing.org/~benh/albook-ibookg4-sleep-3.diff, if you want to pimp up the source package with ppc-sleep love | 10:10 | |
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| Keybuk | bob2: good flight? | 10:48 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) loooong | 10:48 | |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) when are you coming down? | 10:49 | |
| Keybuk | tomorrow morning | 10:49 |
| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) ah | 10:49 | |
| Keybuk | should be at Mark's for 9ish or so | 10:49 |
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| (bob2/#ubuntu-devel) ah, have to get up early then ;-) | 10:52 | |
| Keybuk | yeah, leave here about 6 | 10:54 |
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| (elmo/#ubuntu-devel) anyone got an upload to do by any chance? | 11:11 | |
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