[02:19] <robertj> woot
[02:19] <robertj> Update Manager on p.g.o
[03:06] <robertj> sivang: any ideas on getting a chroot working with X for screenshot purposes?
[03:06] <robertj> I've got a chroot setup, and I setup sshd to run on 222
[03:06] <robertj> and I ssh -X into it, run xcalc, and it can't open the display
[03:07] <sivang> there's a config file
[03:07] <sivang> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:07] <sivang> X11Forwarding yes
[03:07] <sivang>  <== set this to yes
[03:07] <sivang> it's on that file of the host machine
[03:08] <robertj> it's yes by default
[03:09] <sivang> what's the error?
[03:09] <sivang> ah can't open display
[03:09] <sivang> :)
[03:10] <sivang> what's the display number it's trying to open?
[03:10] <robertj> aha
[03:10] <robertj> it needs a localhost entry in hosts
[03:10] <sivang> yes!
[03:10] <sivang> or, set it up into the DISPLAY variable
[03:11] <sivang> like set DISPLAY = localhost:{0,1,...}
[03:11] <sivang> or something clsoe
[03:11] <sivang> I don't recall exactly..
[03:11] <sivang> How you been btw? What parts of the handbook are you working on?
[03:12] <robertj> Nothing yet, I'm still getting things in order on my end
[03:12] <robertj> doh Xnest is rejecting my client
[03:13] <sivang> you want to take screenshots of GNOME proggies?
[03:13] <robertj> not just that
[03:13] <robertj> I want a stable chroot as a reference point
[03:13] <sivang> ah, warty one?
[03:14] <robertj> yeah
[03:16] <robertj> aha
[03:16] <robertj> got it
[03:17] <sivang> what was it?
[03:20] <robertj> I now have a chroot with an Xnest
[03:35] <sivang> nice
[03:35] <sivang> how did you made the chroot, debootstrep?
[03:35] <robertj> yeah
[03:35] <sivang> cool
[03:35] <sivang> I'm setting a jhbuild root, with gnome 2.10
[03:35] <robertj> what's new in .10?
[03:35] <sivang> well, I mostly know the parts of gst and yelp,
[03:35] <sivang> some new rendering symbols for yelp, mozilla style search panel,
[03:35] <sivang> gst - nicer work with current avaialble interfaces, more gui functionality
[03:35] <robertj> any chance of a gtk-bookmarks panel?
[03:35] <sivang> I don't know, I havn't seen shaun talk about it ..
[04:25] <hornbeck> ggi: you around?
[05:00] <Hoodster> Hi all
[07:10] <plovs_work> goooood moorning!
[07:31] <hornbeck> good morning
[07:34] <plovs_work> hornbeck, thanks for the kernel, i have no time yet, but i''l do it asap (i want to take a look at beagle)
[07:34] <hornbeck> cool
[07:34] <hornbeck> you know what is cool, my boss is posting to the -users list :-)
[07:34] <hornbeck> I have him hooked
[07:34] <hornbeck> he thinks linux is the greatest thing
[07:34] <plovs_work> hornbeck, wow!
[07:36] <plovs_work> hornbeck, you do common tasks, right? Will you add the stuff about adding flash/mp3/divx etc?
[07:36] <hornbeck> yeah
[07:36] <hornbeck> I will note that
[07:38] <plovs_work> hornbeck, i think we would need something about how to make nautilus, more explorer-like as well
[07:40] <hornbeck> in common task?
[07:41] <plovs_work> yep, i am looking into deploying it here, and i will need is as one of the first things, it's always the same questions, sound, flas and what's with all the windows? and philosophical answers about the merits of nautilus as it is don't cut it
[07:42] <plovs_work> that is pidgin english, sorry
[07:43] <hornbeck> ok, I will add that
[07:43] <plovs_work> how's the car?
[07:44] <hornbeck> bad
[07:44] <hornbeck> load of crap right now
[07:46] <plovs_work> 'thought you were gona get a new one?
[07:46] <hornbeck> I was, went and picked it out and everything
[07:46] <hornbeck> than they decided that they were going to lie to me
[07:46] <plovs_work> better safe then sorry, with family-money
[07:46] <hornbeck> yeah
[07:53] <plovs_work> and maybe add something about installing the latest firefox as well, i do that as well (from mozilla.org)
[07:54] <plovs_work> i love ubuntu and usb-key's i've been swapping just to that little window pop up
[10:06] <lulu> morning all :o)
[10:57] <plovs_work> morning lulu
[10:58] <lulu> morning plovs :o)
[01:02] <cenerentola> hello everybody
[01:02] <cenerentola> ciao enrico
[01:07] <sivang> hi all
[01:07] <cenerentola> ciao
[01:11] <ChrisH> Does anyone know how we can apply the patch from the -doc posting? I tried "patch < moreinfo.patch" but it didn't work. I admit I'm not the diff guru really.
[01:14] <plovs_work> ChrisH, diff file1 file2 > dif_file1_2
[01:14] <plovs_work> ChrisH, patch file1 < dif_file1_2
[01:14] <ChrisH> plovs_work: yes, we already have the patch. But it does not apply.
[01:14] <ChrisH> plovs_work: Tried that. Care to try it yourself?
[01:14] <plovs_work> ChrisH, ok
[01:15] <ChrisH> Seems like patch hates me...
[01:16] <plovs_work> sivang, looks like were roommates, mate!
[01:20] <ggi> ChrisH: Works for me with patch -p0 < moreinfo.patch
[01:21] <ChrisH> ggi: Strange, I could swear I tried -p0. But it works now.
[01:23] <ChrisH> Okay if I check the patch in?
[01:25] <plovs_work> ChrisH, did it work? from where and how did you apply it?
[01:26] <cenerentola> sorry ive been busy with the exams in the last 3 weeks... what about the doc server?
[01:26] <ChrisH> plovs_work: it's the patch from Nick Loeve for the moreinfo part. "patch -p0 < ..." worked.
[01:27] <plovs_work> ChrisH, from the parts/moreinfo dir?
[01:27] <plovs_work> or from faq?
[01:27] <ChrisH> from the mailing list
[01:28] <ggi> plovs_work: From the faq dir.
[01:29] <plovs_work> ggi, ok, thanks for reading my mind
[01:29] <cenerentola> hey ladies, have you got time for me?
[01:30] <ChrisH> plovs_work: Ah, okay. :)
[01:51] <cenerentola> id like to apologize if someone felt hurted by my words: <cenerentola> hey ladies, have you got time for me?
[01:57] <ggi> cenerentola: Uh, apology accepted. What was it you wanted?
[01:58] <cenerentola> no..
[01:58] <cenerentola> well yes..
[01:58] <cenerentola> afaik this is the only output i got from you...;)
[01:59] <cenerentola> ive been busy and stressed with exams [well the last one is on friday] 
[02:00] <cenerentola> and i havent been able to follow the evolution of the doc team directives..
[02:02] <ggi> Hmm, well. I've been kind of busy with essays too, but it seems we're all working on the book, which is now the faq in hornbeck's SVN.
[02:04] <cenerentola> yep.. but what im more interested in guides...
[02:05] <cenerentola> since im setting up an italian team, id like to use similar templates, so that guides will be more easily translatable
[02:06] <cenerentola> we're doing very easy and detailed guides, which enrico [as docteam secretary]  doesnt seem to be interested in, and the only ppl i have are involved in the development of the guides-framework and this is
[02:07] <cenerentola> why our knowledge about docteam ml is not updated
[02:11] <ggi> Well, easy and very detailed guides sound good to me. Why isn't enrico interested in them?
[02:12] <cenerentola> well he didnt seem to be very interested when i posted the mail on ubuntu-doc
[02:13] <cenerentola> he got mad because i used the word "hominid" referring to computer science-impaired ;) [lulu:im joking, just to let EVERYBODY KNOW;)] 
[02:16] <ggi> Well, I'm sure we can assume some things about our users. There's a difference between writing newbie-oriented documentation, and writing documentation for say, cats.
[02:17] <cenerentola> no no..
[02:18] <cenerentola> i wasnt talking about ubuntu's user.. i was talking about the friends of mine, that i was supporting at the time, which makes a great difference: im not considered and i dont consider myself rude.
[02:19] <cenerentola> and they call themselves HOMINID
[02:19] <cenerentola> ...
[02:20] <cenerentola> said this i agree with you about cats... but i dont feel the need to agree with enrico but lets get back to work [i have flamed enough for today] ... ciao
[02:22] <ggi> Well, seeing as you haven't been active on the list since then, it might be a good idea to post some of your ideas again, albeit with slightly more careful phrasing. :-)
[02:22] <cenerentola> you're absolutely right
[02:22] <cenerentola> but EXAMS...
[02:23] <ggi> Right. Well, crack on with those.
[02:23] <cenerentola> ggi: i hate economics..
[02:25] <cenerentola> they're introducing me to algorithms, presenting them as ver very important.. well those are more simple than the simplest of calculus 1, 
[02:26] <cenerentola> but let me say im rotfl
[02:26] <cenerentola> so ciao 
[02:37] <hornbeck> ggi, you around?
[02:38] <ggi> yep
[02:38] <ggi> For about five minutes, anyway.
[02:38] <hornbeck> I applied your patch
[02:38] <hornbeck> good stuff
[02:39] <hornbeck> well, I am out
[02:39] <hornbeck> later
[02:40] <ggi> Grand. I noticed that Nick also submitted a patch to the list, commenting out the <email> tags, so you might want to do that with my author entry too.
[02:40] <ggi> later
[06:02] <smurfix> lulu: thursday is the 25th.  ;-)
[06:03] <lulu> smurfix: oops! so it is - did u change it already? :o)
[06:04] <smurfix> No, I just added a note; didn't know if you meant tomorrow
[06:05] <lulu> smurfix: if you're still on that page, could you do me a favour and amend it, please. Tx so much.
[06:06] <smurfix> Umm, tomorrow or Thursday?
[06:06] <lulu> :o) thursday!
[06:06] <smurfix> ok  :-/
[06:06] <smurfix> ;-)
[06:06] <lulu> thanks! :o)
[06:07] <smurfix> ok done. You can buy me a drink in return ;-)
[06:08] <smurfix> (assuming you'll be there of course)
[06:09] <lulu> smurfix: sure!