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daveon:-/12:00
Cuga_asdfv, the first thing ubuntu tells you after install is done, is it explains why their is virtually no root account (there is, but its pretty much disabled everywhere)12:00
kensaijdz_, yep12:00
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daveonI will only install monodevelop and then I'll comment again the universe sources ...12:01
asdfvthank you12:01
jpvcxasdfv: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo12:01
Cuga_asdfv, use sudo whenever you need to do something with 'root' priveleges12:01
jdz_daveon: You shouldn't recomment them, that will break upgrades.12:01
Cuga_yeah thats the link i was looking for :)12:01
jdz_daveon: It's OK to use Universe, just realise that it's "unsupported".12:01
asdfvthe problem is that i want to configure the web because it doesn't work12:02
Cuga_what is your problem with 'the web' ?12:02
daveonjdz_, ok12:02
RuffianSoldierdoes anyone here know qtparted?12:02
asdfvi can' connect12:03
asdfvi've a lan t3 connection (fastweb) but it doesn't work12:03
asdfvwhy?12:04
Cuga_what do you connect to? a gateway? a router? ICS ?12:04
asdfvit says INACTIVE12:04
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Majestic|LinuXI know qtparted12:04
Majestic|LinuXbut I prefer cfdisk12:04
asdfvgateaway12:04
Cuga_asdfv, ok so are you supposed to get a ip via dhcp, or specify a static entry?12:05
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asdfvstatic, i suppose12:05
king_arthurasdfv: Fastweb is handlig your ip with DHCP12:06
asdfvking: are you sure?12:06
asdfvare you italian?12:06
king_arthurasdfv: I am positive12:07
asdfvpositive what?12:07
Cuga_asdfv, thats something you should know, what are you chatting with right now? a system on the same network? if soo check its network settings to see if its dhcp or static12:07
king_arthurasdfv: no ma parlo italiano :-)12:07
asdfvwow12:07
asdfvnow i'using win200012:07
asdfvhow do i check if it's static?12:08
king_arthurasdfv: check your win settings12:08
Cuga_asdfv, ifconfig12:08
Cuga_err12:08
Cuga_ipconfig12:08
Cuga_ipconfig/all12:09
king_arthurasdfv: ipconfig with Win 2000?12:09
king_arthurlooks like he's been checking... :-)12:10
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asdfvops my win2000 crashed12:11
asdfvsaid buffer overrun problem12:11
king_arthurasdfv: no surprise with win, I guesss one more reason to switch over12:12
Cuga_haha kinda funny hehe12:12
asdfvoh yes but without the net i can't swithc12:12
Cuga_using win2k to help troubleshoot linux issue to help switch over... and windows crashes12:12
Cuga_lol12:12
asdfveheh12:13
asdfvi use win only for videogames12:13
Cuga_asdfv, im assuming the connection to pc is via cat-5 cable? not usb or anything right?12:13
asdfvright12:13
Cuga_can you try things on the box or are you dual booted to windows?12:14
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asdfvi have dual boot12:15
Cuga_makes it hard to help that way, no other pcs in the house that you can hop on here with us while you logged into the ubuntu box?12:16
asdfvno12:16
asdfvi'm a student12:16
asdfvi've got only 1 oc12:16
asdfvpc12:16
Cuga_so you are in a dorm?12:16
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Scognitohi12:17
Cuga_if so basic dhcp should work fine12:17
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Scognitosomeone uses hoary and gdm ?12:17
asdfvi'm not in a dorm12:17
asdfvi live in a flat12:17
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htaccessif there is anyone from cannonical here, has ubuntu been invited to join the Linux Core Consortium?12:18
Cuga_check your /etc/network/interfaces file and see if there is anything in there other then the loopback, if not then add these 2 lines12:18
Cuga_auto eth012:18
Cuga_iface eth0 inet dhcp12:18
asdfvok i'll write them down12:18
Cuga_did you check if you are on static or dynamic on this windows partition yet?12:19
Cuga_ipconfig/all12:19
paperAnyone use enlightenmnet in ubuntu?12:19
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Gwildor_hihi12:22
king_arthurCuga: IMHO you are making things unnecessary difficult :-)12:22
king_arthurin any case it's ifconfig12:23
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Cuga_king_arthur, he is in windows right now12:23
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Cuga_king_arthur, in windows, its ipconfig/all12:24
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king_arthurCuga: I know, that' the problem, he should do it all from Linux12:24
king_arthurI know fastweb, they have DHCP access12:24
Cuga_well he doesn't even know weither or not hes using DHCP12:24
king_arthurI am positive12:24
king_arthur:-)12:25
ultrakorne^2hi i installed ubuntu on my laptop, touch pad was working, but it stops (dont know why... maybe when i change mouse sensivity)12:25
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) hoary is UTF8 isn't it12:25
king_arthurHe probably doesn't even know the difference.. 8-)12:25
(mjr/#ubuntu) HrdwrBoB, that's what they say12:25
(mjr/#ubuntu) (good thing too)12:25
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) yeah12:25
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) one of the guys here is madcrazy about locales12:26
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Gwildor_utf8 is .......12:26
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) I just want to appease him :)12:26
Gwildor_??that was a question...sorry??12:26
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(mjr/#ubuntu) you need'nt wait for hoary, you can set up utf-8 locales on Warty ok; it's a question of defaults :)12:26
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) mjr: yeah12:27
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dre22plhello all12:27
(mjr/#ubuntu) (actually, I'm using Warty with UTF-8 locales)12:27
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) cool12:27
king_arthurCuga: I am leaving now, I told him with to do in Italian on private channell12:27
dre22plI've installed the Warty release several days ago, have a problem with alsa, who can i ask about it?12:28
Gwildor_umm, just upgraded about 3 seconds ago, nautalis upgraded, now it crashes when i try to open it12:28
Cuga_king_arthur, ok cool thanks, my italian is a lil rusty ;)12:28
cardadorGwildor_: restart x12:28
(mjr/#ubuntu) HrdwrBoB, yes 12:28
Gwildor_kk, thnx12:28
king_arthurCuga: it's better he uses GUI tool12:28
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king_arthurCuga: just select DHCP server and he will be connected12:29
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dre22plI've installed the Warty release several days ago, have a problem with alsa, who can i ask about it?12:31
(mjr/#ubuntu) dre22pl, this channel, among other things12:31
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dre22plok :) thanks, sound works, as GDM loads there is some kind of a bell, so i know it works.12:32
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dre22plbut when the actual gnome (or KDE) loads the sound stops working.12:32
dre22plHowever if i start an app as root it does work, i thinkit's something minor, just dunno what to fix...12:33
scoondre22pl: find a .wav file and test out alsa with aplay12:33
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dre22plif i do it as a user it says permisiion denied :| "aplay: main:507: audio open error: Permission denied"12:34
dre22pland it works for root12:34
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(mjr/#ubuntu) try "id"12:35
LowryHi all12:35
(mjr/#ubuntu) does it say that you're in the audio group?12:35
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Cuga_dre22pl, sudo adduser username audio then log out and back in12:35
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thomas_evening together12:35
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thomas_is it german in here?12:35
scoondre22pl: id user, make certain you are in the audio group.  just like Cuga_ says12:36
thomas_oh, i see12:36
LowryIs there a way to get dri support with a powerbook g3? - via expert install?12:36
(mjr/#ubuntu) Lowry, what display hardware?12:36
Lowrymach6412:36
thomas_i _really_  would like to burn audio cds with my ubuntu system by not having to install k3b or any kde program12:36
Lowryati rage pro lt 8 meg12:37
thomas_is this possible?12:37
(mjr/#ubuntu) thomas_, yes, what were there, xcdroast or gcombust or something12:37
thomas_i recently tried xcdroast, but i am too stupid to handle it burning audio cds12:38
Cuga_thomas_, Gnome is seriously lacking in this department, im not aware of any 'good' gnome based apps for this but there are some like mjr just mentionned, or you can learn from cml12:38
thomas_gcombust didnt recordnize my ide devie12:38
dhasstwhy cant i aptget mplayer12:38
(mjr/#ubuntu) Lowry, hmh, dunno really12:38
dre22plthanks Cuga_, i'll check if it helps, I've indeed forgotten to add the user to that group.12:38
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thomas_what is with coaster12:40
(mjr/#ubuntu) Lowry, seems that mach64 dri isn't being built by default due to security issues; see http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ATIMach64?action=highlight&value=CategoryHardware12:40
thomas_does it work allready?12:40
(mjr/#ubuntu) Lowry, you could probably install it yourself but that'd require manual work12:40
LowryI see custum-expert-power312:41
Lowrycustum-power312:41
Lowryexpert-power312:41
Lowryand install-power312:41
LowryAny suggestions?12:42
(ryan/#ubuntu) ls12:42
(ryan/#ubuntu) oops12:42
thomas_hey, i gcombust now seems to be working for me!12:43
thomas_great12:43
thomas_but it really looks ugly12:43
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(mjr/#ubuntu) thomas_, cross your fingers so that Hoary's Rhythmbox would support writing audio CDs ;)12:43
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thomas_What do you think, how long have we to wait for  a eye candy and cool burning app for gnome?12:43
thomas_mjr, this would be _really- great work12:44
Agrajagnautilus-cd-burner looks fine to me12:44
(mjr/#ubuntu) thomas_, not that long, the above functionality, I hear, is in Rhythmbox's CVS. Haven't checked myself though12:44
thomas_Agrajag, to mee as well, but it cant burn audio-cds, can it?12:44
DespairAgrajag: does it still crash after every 2nd cd, and erratically while dragging files?12:44
Agrajagno, it can't. It should be able to, they have gstreamer to handle audio after all12:45
AgrajagDespair: not that I know of12:45
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thomas_i love nautilus-cd-burner to burn data dvds12:46
cardadorhmm now there is an Ubuntu-update-manager!12:46
Gwildorwhere?12:47
kentthomas_, coaster seems lika a bright future for Gnome. It dont even use cdrecord :)12:47
kentcardador, in Hoary?12:47
thomas_but we need a audio burning app12:47
thomas_i cant force my freinds to use something like gcombust or something12:47
cardadorkent: yes12:48
Gwildorcardador, where?12:48
cardadorGwildor: applications -> syst tools, last one12:48
kentthomas_, coaster will burn audios in time.12:48
thomas_but as the screenshots tell, coaster isnt able to burn audio at the moment12:49
thomas_and further, i cant compile it12:49
Gwildorcardador, i dont have it, i just upgraded like 10 mins ago, let my try again12:49
thomas_are there any debs for coaster anywhere?12:49
kentcardador, you wouldn't mind sending me a screenshot? I dont use Hoary :(12:49
cardadorkent: wait a min12:49
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Gwildorcardador, wonder why i dont have it?12:50
kentthomas_, i guess you will have to wait for coaster to mature a bit. Right now, installing k3b seems like the easiest way to be able to burn audio.12:50
thomas_gcombust didnt work; it just destroyed my empty cd...12:50
AmaranthGwildor: apt-get install update-manager12:50
Matt|is it possible to get bashcompletion working with things like "apt-get install" or "killall" and suchlike on ubuntu? or is it something to do with the way you compile the packages?12:51
thomas_kent, but i dont want the easiest way, i want an more integrated solution12:51
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cardadorthomas_: k3b12:51
GwildorAmaranth, thnx, tis going now12:51
thomas_not for me; i can use k3b, but i want to make ubuntu more popular to my friends and so on...12:51
Cuga_Matt|, just make an aliased command for them12:51
ultrakornemy touch pad stops running.... was running fine and something happen... now it didnt work at all...12:51
AmaranthGwildor: If it doesn't show up in the menu I think you need to logout and log back in.12:51
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AmaranthOr just run gksudo update-manager from a shell. :)12:52
GwildorAmaranth, nah, it wasnt installed, besides, i just restarted X, just had to install it12:52
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bigbrother0074anyone with experience getting skype to work on an AMD64?12:52
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Cuga_Matt|, for example you could make apti -> apt-get install12:52
Matt|Cuga_, is that difficult?12:52
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GwildorAmaranth, sorry, i see your point now, restarting X, brb12:53
Cuga_Matt|, not at all12:53
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Matt|Cuga_, would you describe how to do it, or point me to an easy howto or something?12:54
bigbrother0074anybody know what prgm i might need to communicate w/ a Creative Nomad IIc mp3 player?12:55
Gwildorooh, got the update manager now, its kinda nice12:55
Matt|carlos, you here too?12:55
Gwildortoo bad im up to date atm12:55
carlosMatt|: yep12:55
thomas_ciao12:55
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Matt|carlos, what do those files do12:56
(mjr/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074, since skype is closed and proprietary, the "internet telephony that just works" will probably be easiest to set up within an x86 chroot environment12:56
carlosMatt|: carlos@frodo ~ $ dpkg -S /etc/bash_completion.d/pon12:56
carlosppp: /etc/bash_completion.d/pon12:56
carlosinstall ppp and you will get an example12:56
kentcardador, do that program work as an applet or is it a program like synaptic?12:56
carlosMatt|: feed bash with the needed information so the autocompletion works12:56
Matt|carlos, ok and how do I do that?12:56
bigbrother0074mjr, i'm not sure i understand....i'm pretty new to ubuntu and linux, etc12:56
carlosMatt|: just read one of the already existing files12:57
(mjr/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074, then the answer is "ask skype to open up the code or at least release an amd64 version"12:57
carlosand do the same with the command you want12:57
Matt|carlos, there aren't any :)12:57
bigbrother0074mjr, ok, thanks12:57
carlosMatt|: as I said, install ppp12:57
carlosand you will get an example for pon12:58
Matt|what is pon?12:58
carlosjust an example12:58
Matt|ok i'll try both yours and seb128 's methods12:58
carlosit's to execute dialup connections12:58
seb128carlos: I think you're getting too in the details, uncommenting should be enough12:58
carlosMatt|: you need what seb128 told you to use this feature12:59
carlosseb128: yeah, I thought he had it already activated12:59
Matt|ok have done that12:59
Matt|how can i restart it?12:59
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pdaousthey, chaps, I'm having a hell of a time getting this one PHP4 module working... anyone know why a module, after installed, would still not be available to PHP?01:00
pdaoustwow, quiet forum today01:01
Matt|carlos?01:01
ajmitch_because it's not enabled in the php.ini?01:01
Matt|sorry pdaoust no idea01:01
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pdaoustajmitch_: what an ass I am01:01
pdaoustajmitch_: actually, I kinda assumed dpkg would handle the reconfiguration01:01
Deftmdz: are you availible?01:02
ajmitch_that'd probably depend on how it was packaged, I guess01:02
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carlosMatt|: you need to restart your session01:02
Matt|carlos, ok01:02
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carlosMatt|: perhaps it's enough restarting the terminal01:03
Matt|carlos, seb128 thanks for all your help01:03
carlosbut I'm not sure01:03
Matt|i will try01:03
Matt|byeeeeee01:03
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bigbrother0074anybody know what prgm i might need to communicate w/ a Creative Nomad IIc mp3 player?01:03
Cuga_Ubuntu forums seem to be back up, if anybody can update the /topic01:03
pdaoustajmitch_: I checked, and, sure enough, the extension wasn't enabled :)01:04
pdaoustajmitch_: thanks!01:04
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ajmitch_no problems01:04
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OrngeTideoh my, people actually run this.01:05
kentbigbrother0074, http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/01:05
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bigbrother0074kent, thanks01:06
ajmitch_OrngeTide: surprised at that? :)01:06
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kentbigbrother0074, there is a list on there homepage of programs.01:06
bigbrother0074kent, so i would use gnomeDAP or something?01:07
derekanyone here have a danger hiptop2 (t-mobile sidekick2)01:07
kentbigbrother0074, it seems like that would be a good program. Bug i dont own a nomad, so i cant say :)01:07
OrngeTideajmitch_, well i never heard of it until like 5 seconds ago. i was running gentoo on my ibook, but it took a big dump on me. so i tried out crux, and it had issues that i didn't feel like resolving.01:09
kentbigbrother0074, but if you follow the link to gnomedap you'l see that it has changed name into neutrino.   http://neutrino.sourceforge.net/01:09
OrngeTideajmitch_, just surprised to see this many people in the channel. so i'm downloading the iso now01:09
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Pugiohello01:10
bigbrother0074kent, i see that.... but i can't find either on my synaptic package manager.... do i need to find a repository for it?01:10
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Pugiodoes anyone know when the first batch of CD's are expected to arrive?01:10
PugioI 'ordered' mine early October01:10
cardadorkent: i dont know because it says my system is up to date01:11
cardadorkent: sorry the late reply :)01:11
=== OrngeTide notes neutrino is a registered trademark of QSSL.
kentbigbrother0074, i guess so. Or find a debian-package.  If your lucky, you can install it as a normal debian-package. (debian unstable/testing might have it?)01:11
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bigbrother0074OrngeTide, what do you mean?01:12
scorpixhello01:12
Amaranththis update manager is neat01:12
Amaranthit's like OS X01:12
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pixelmonkeyDoes anyone here have the J2EE 1.4.2 SDK downloaded on their machine (from Sun)?01:12
bigbrother0074kent, how would i go about finding a debian-package?  look for it at apt-get.org01:12
cerebrixbigbrother0074: you should post on the message board if you get that figured out, i have a nomad zen i need to replace the hd in and when i do, ill be looking for an answer to that question myself heh01:12
pixelmonkeyI need to download it, but Sun's website is fscked due to Solaris' release.01:12
cardadorAmaranth: have you figured out how it runs?01:13
bigbrother0074cerebrix, where's the msg board?01:13
cardadorAmaranth: like synaptic?01:13
Amaranthcardador: yeah, pretty simple01:13
Amaranthyou run it and if there are updates it shows them and has an "Update" button01:13
Amaranthclick and and kick back01:13
cardadorAmaranth: but does it auto update the packages?01:13
cerebrixunder community on www.ubuntulinux.org =D01:13
Amaranthif there are no updates then it tells you so01:13
Amaranthjust a simplified GUI01:13
bigbrother0074cerebrix, oh..ok01:13
scorpixwhen i try boot the ubuntu livece my screem card wont work its nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] , so is it from xorg or ubuntu? cuz it works fine in debian(sarge).01:13
cardadorAmaranth: i have it already installed, but it says it is up to date01:14
Amaranthfor times you want to update only, not install01:14
Amaranththen you are up to date01:14
Amaranthalthough i've found that it says i am until i apt-get update01:14
asdfvhi01:14
Amaranththats an apt thing though, not an update-manager thing01:14
cardadorAmaranth: so from time to time it connects to the repositories to check for upgrades?01:14
asdfvhow can I login as root in ubuntu?01:14
OrngeTidebigbrother0074, i'm just spouting off a bit of trivia. I used QSSL's neutrino at a previous job, it's the main thing they sell (it's the kernel for QNX)01:14
Amaranthcardador: not that i'm aware of01:14
cardadorasdfv: no need for root, use sudo01:14
Amaranthalthough i think that would be the point01:14
LowryWhat is laptop-detect?01:15
asdfvso name:sudo passw:???01:15
AmaranthLowry: apt-cache show laptop-detect01:15
bigbrother0074OrngeTide, oh, i didn't know if that was supposed to help me or not.  ok.01:15
Amaranthasdfv: sudo command01:15
cerebrixi just think i realized something.  if i intended to patch my kernel source w/ new alsa drivers, i should probobly have done that to the source before i started compiling a .deb for the source huh?01:15
cardadorasdfv: what exactly you want to do?01:15
Amaranththen it asks for your password01:15
DeftLowry, laptop-detect just return whether or not it thinks you are using a laptop01:15
OrngeTidebigbrother0074, no. i'm not being helpful at all. :P01:15
AmaranthLowry: I'm assuming it's used by GNOME to know whether or not to monitor battery life.01:16
asdfvi have to modify the file etc/network/interfaces but i can't because i'm not a rott01:16
LowrySo - any interesting new options?01:16
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bigbrother0074OrngeTide, haha, ok01:16
aaroncukhi all, can someone tell me if a MSI KM3M-V will work with ubuntu, my current board doesnt seem to want to01:16
cerebrixam i correct in that assumption?01:16
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cardadorasdfv: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces01:18
asdfvthx01:18
scorpixwhen i try boot the ubuntu livece my screem card wont work its nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] , so is it from xorg or ubuntu? cuz it works fine in debian(sarge).01:18
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s0ckslol01:20
s0cksHad to get the udontkowz0rs01:20
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paperanyone mind telling me how i can turn off the graphical login screen, so its just the terminal?01:23
nevynpaper: mv /etc/rc2.d/S99[gkx] dm /etc/rc2.d/K99[gkx] dm01:24
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papernevyn, as root?01:25
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Cuga_paper, sudo01:26
paperyes01:27
paperthats what i meant01:27
paper:)01:27
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osiris_22how do i update ubuntu?01:33
Gwildorsynaptic01:33
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Gwildoror sudoapt-get update01:34
osiris_22does it update the kernal?01:34
Gwildoror sudo apt-get update01:34
Gwildorsorry01:34
Gwildorthen sudo apt-get upgrade01:34
giannicolacuga?01:34
Cuga_Heya01:34
cardadorosiris_22: yes it does01:35
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giannicolai'm the guy of dhcp01:35
giannicolano everything work01:35
Cuga_giannicola, nice so it worked?01:35
giannicolai'm on ubuntu01:35
giannicolayes01:35
Cuga_great01:35
giannicolathank you very much01:35
giannicolai'm a little inexpert01:35
Cuga_np, its weird that the installer didnt catch that thos (the fact that you were on dhcp)01:35
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dimgrhi01:35
giannicolanow i'm going to bed01:36
giannicolahere in italy is almost 2am01:36
giannicolawhere are you from cuga?01:36
Cuga_Canada, its about 7:30pm here01:36
giannicolawow01:36
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giannicolai've got alot of relatives over there01:36
Amaranth6:30pm here in Iowa, USA01:36
giannicolamontreal and toronto01:36
leonelchihuahua, Mex  is  5:30 PM01:36
Cuga_Cool01:37
dimgr2.30 in Athens Greece01:37
giannicolahere in italy is dark outside01:37
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giannicolawow01:37
Cuga_oh its dark here too hehe but not late01:37
hey2k5lol> here in italy is dark outside01:37
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MolgrewI just used the live cd and at first things like help would open but after some time they would not, only things on the desktop, like the folders on there01:37
giannicolagoodnigth to everybody01:37
leonelhttp://taint.org/xplanet/   <-- it's  dark over Italy01:38
dimgrubuntu has a livecd? i downloaded a iso image but its not the live :P01:38
LowryYou can boot and install01:38
MolgrewIs it a fully capable live cd? I couldn't figure out how to go online with it01:38
LowryAre you wanting gnoppix linux? gnoppix.org?01:41
NewComerleonel, it's dark over here too, yet that image says the opposite01:41
leonel:)01:42
MolgrewI thought since it was called live cd, that it was a live cd01:42
NewComermmm, the thumbnails were decieving, the actual image are correct01:43
Cuga_theres no reason you can't go online with it (unless i'm wrong, i haven't tryed it) but did you look into why you couldn't get online, did you see if it detected your network card and such?01:43
MolgrewIt was not very foolproof01:44
MolgrewIt detected it, but I expected something like "go online" and just having to fill in my isp account info01:45
Gwildortis not a microsoft product01:46
NewComerwhat's the difference between ubunutu live cd and gnoppix warty (new gnoppix release)?01:47
Molgrewknoppix had something to that effect01:47
Gwildornewcomer, good question01:47
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Scognitosomeone uses hoary and gdm ?01:48
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Gwildori use hoary?01:49
Gwildoridk if that means i use gdm01:50
Scognitogdm of hoary cannot load new themes01:51
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Gwildorhavent tried01:52
Scognitoi have installed new themes from art.gnome.org01:52
Scognitoand no one works01:52
Scognitothey are installed ok01:52
Scognitobut when i reload gdm or start a new session i got a strange error...01:53
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osiris_22can you use rpm files in ubuntu?01:55
Gwildori dont think so.......if you can, they dont recommend it01:55
Gwildorubuntu01:55
Cuga_osiris_22, change them to debs first, even then its not recommended ... find a premade deb file01:55
osiris_22they dont have one they only have an rpm for winamp01:55
GwildorScognito, i realy dont know, just pulled the question outta ya, so someone could answer it, sorry01:56
osiris_22and my friend is bitchen wanting win amp01:56
Cuga_give him xmms01:56
Cuga_winamp on linux is pretty crappy01:56
Scognitotnx01:56
Cuga_they gave up long time ago on it01:56
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Cuga_hence the name WINamp01:57
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EricNeonmorning all 02:03
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cardadorosiris_22: check out beep media player02:03
EricNeonthis is ShangHai morning~02:03
Cuga_This is Canadian evening :)02:04
Rene_SThis is Irish New Year02:04
Cuga_any channel ops in here?02:08
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Gwildorwhat is a good mp3 manager/ player.....i dont really have playlists, i just like a library02:11
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NewComerthere's only ONE guy seeding the warty livecd?!!!!02:11
DeftGwildor, is rhythmbox not ok?02:11
Gwildordeft, do i have that?02:11
Deftyou should do, if you've only just installed it won't play mp3s yet though02:12
Gwildordeft, hoary, mp3 stuff is done....just havent had any on here yet?02:12
Cuga_Hey, lil off topic question....I just got handed a workorder to do tommorow at client site, anychange anybody know what the expression FOB means in the sentence Products are FOB Customer site? does that mean i have to bring it or they have to provide when i'm there?02:12
Cuga_*anychance02:13
Gwildormaybe ask the boss?02:13
Gwildorlol02:13
Cuga_gone for the day02:13
Cuga_lol02:13
Gwildorwonderful02:13
(sladen/#ubuntu) NewComer: that seed is probably from the Ubuntu servers02:14
Deftdictionary.com says free on board...02:14
Cuga_man, i hate acromins.. hell i can't even spell acronims02:14
Cuga_hrmm.. and how do you enterprete free on board ?02:14
Gwildorcuga, yup free on board, was just gonna say that02:14
Defteven better than that is "Followers of the Bananameister"02:15
Cuga_does that mean i have to provide ?02:15
Defthttp://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=FOB02:15
Cuga_hahaha02:15
Gwildorcuga_, thats means grab some for everyone.........take all you can carry02:15
(sladen/#ubuntu) Cuga_: IIRC,02:15
(sladen/#ubuntu) Cuga_: IIRC, 'Fright-on-board'---the customer pays based the distance you have to transport the items02:16
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osiris_22i cant seem to get totum to play any mpgs for some reason02:17
Rene_1Odd, gaim has irc he02:17
Gaarutoi just to upgrade my hoary, now nautilus is very slow, why ?02:17
Gwildorgaaruto,maybe try and upgrade again?, idk, i just got a new nautalis upgrade, bout 20 mins ago02:17
Cuga_ahh means i gotta bring em... here comes an hour of burning.. :(02:17
Gwildorhahahaha02:17
Deftosiris_22, do you have the plugins installed?02:18
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cardadorGaaruto: sudo apt-get install gamin02:18
(sladen/#ubuntu) Cuga_: (or the customer organises their own transport)02:18
Gaarutook thanks02:18
osiris_22i didnt know there were plugins deft02:18
Gwildorthats what gamin does02:18
cardadorosiris_22: search for w32codecs, but you must have multiverse enabled02:19
Deftosiris_22, if you are using the included totem, it's based on gstreamer; you'll likely be better off installed totem-xine instead, which can uses the w32codecs02:19
Gaarutowhat is gamin ?02:19
Falstiusanyone have suggestions for good Palm Pilot software in addition to Evolution?  My brother is asking for something like "WordToGo"02:19
cardadorGaaruto: it replaces fam02:19
osiris_22so i should look for xine on synaptic?02:19
DeftGaaruto, gamin is a replacement for fam, the file alteration monitor02:19
Rene_SGotta Love Linux, learn something new everyday :)02:19
cardadorosiris_22: w32codecs02:20
Deftosiris_22, you'll need a new apt source first02:20
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Gaarutothanks it works :)02:20
cardadorGaaruto: :)02:20
Deftosiris_22, "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main"02:20
Deftthen you can install totem-xine and w32codecs02:20
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cardadorDeft: i think its better to use multiverse02:22
Majestic|LinuXhow can I get hoary02:22
cardadorosiris_22: edit sources.list and add universe and multiverse to the repository02:22
Gwildorumm, why cant i use rythmbox?, its not in the menu, i cant right click on an mp3 and say "add to library", anyone know why?02:22
Deftcardador, not for w32codecs surely02:23
Rene_SDont shave for a week, you will get pretty Hoary by then :)02:23
DeftGwildor, it should be listed as Music Player02:23
GwildorMajestic|LinuX, changes the word warty in your source list to say hoary02:23
Majestic|LinuXthanks02:23
Majestic|LinuXWhats up G ;)02:23
DeftGwildor, I don't know where the Add to Library menu is though, it got lost when I upgraded from warty02:23
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Gwildordeft, thats what im saying02:25
Gwildordeft, wonderful, no sound from rythmbox02:26
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Gwildorlol, sure gort sound from gaim though, man that was loud02:26
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migueliyuswhat software is available like kazza on ubuntu ?02:26
DeftGwildor, if it doesn't work on the second try, you might see what gstreamer-properties gives you02:26
Cuga_limewire, gnutella...02:26
Gwildormigueliyus, i use overnet, was pretty easy to set up02:26
DeftGwildor, although I'm not very convinced by the current hoary build of rhythmbox, crashes a bit too much02:27
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NewComermigueliyus, use gift, with giFToxic as frontend02:27
Rene_SI use Apollon, its a KDE front end to giFt but it uses FastTrack02:27
osiris_22i got xine with out adding a repository02:27
Rene_Ssupports rather02:27
osiris_22and it works jsut fine02:27
osiris_22hrm02:27
Deftmigueliyus, just to join in, gtk-gnutella with the gtk2 frontend is nice for gnutella1 network02:27
Gwildordeft, what should gstreamer-properties show me....it gives me like a config window02:28
osiris_22amsn sucks ass02:28
Gwildornatalus window02:28
Deftosiris_22, you should get most basic codecs, but not mpeg402:28
osiris_22should it play dvds?02:28
DeftGwildor, try changing the audio output to alsa, if it isn't there already02:28
osiris_22err02:29
osiris_22will it play dvds02:29
osiris_22lmao02:29
Deftosiris_22, you need libdvdcss2 for that02:29
Deftosiris_22, if they are protected dvds anyway02:29
Gwildordeft, works now02:29
Gwildordeft, thnx02:29
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nixmananyone seen problems where the ubuntu installer is incapable of mounting the cdrom ?02:32
Rene_SIts never happened to me personally02:32
nixmanthe cdrom in question is a normal dvd drive easily recognized by knoppix/fedora02:33
nixmanany idea why this could be happening ?02:33
Deftnixman, have you looked in the bugzilla?02:33
nixmanDeft, checking it now.02:34
Pugiodoes anyone have an ETA on the pressed CD's?02:35
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benjai installed giftui and i get this error :[22:34:52]  *** GIFT-ERROR: failed to open /usr/share/giFT/mime.types02:36
benjagiftui : No host to connect /apps/giftui/daemon/host.02:36
migueliyusso me I benja02:37
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cardadorbenja: install apollon instead, you can acess gnutella, openft and fasttrack (kazaa) networks02:38
cardadorbenja: and limewire is pretty good also, but itll connect only to gnutella02:39
benjaok, thanks02:39
cardadorbye02:40
benjamy giftd does not start :( gives me errors02:44
Gwildorsee why i sad go with overnet02:44
Rene_Stry running gift-setup02:45
robertjwhy does exporting the display to 127.0.0.1:0.0 and running xcalc from the chroot not cause the window to display?02:45
Gwildor2 debs to install.......on you go02:45
nixmanDeft, looks like i am experiencing https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=144002:46
benjanow works :D02:47
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Rene_SIll send ya my bill in the mail02:47
Gwildorwhy does FF take days to start?02:48
Rene_SNo idea, I use Mozilla mostly but when i used FF I never had any trouble02:49
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Gwildortry it now......hoary02:49
Gwildorlike 6 long seconds....hahaha02:50
Gwildori guess it varys......some times it takes longer02:50
Rene_SLook at it this way, at least its not IE02:50
Gwildorhahahahaha......good point02:51
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Rene_SI unfortunatly have it on my Linux box to test webpages with, makes me nervous everytime it opens02:51
Gwildorhahhaha02:52
Gwildordont wanna get spyware..........02:53
Gwildorhehe02:53
Rene_SMost of the time i just disconnect the internet, but sometimes I forget02:53
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hcker2000any one else here us the ppc distro?02:55
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Gwildorogra does, i think02:55
LowryI have ppc02:55
_Maragato_hello hello godnight everybody02:55
Gwildornot on atm though02:56
Gwildorgoodnite02:56
_Maragato_may I bug you with 3 questions?02:56
Gwildorme.sure02:56
EricNeongood morning!02:56
hcker2000Lowry, what mac are u runing it on?02:56
Rene_SHmmm that Conectiva Linux looks kinda nice .02:56
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Lowryg3 powerbook02:57
EricNeonwoh02:57
EricNeonI like it02:57
hcker2000dose it have a built in modem?02:57
LowryYes - but I share internet with my g402:58
EricNeonbut I have no meney02:58
WildCodeI'm having problems installing ubuntu 4.10, I get unmet dependencies when installing the base system in with the dependancy being modutils (which apparently isn't installed and isn't going to be)02:58
LowryI have not tested the modem yet02:58
jdubWildCode: how are you installing it?02:58
WildCodeletting the cd do its thing02:59
LowryWhat mac do you have?02:59
jdubhave you checked the md5sum of the cd?02:59
WildCodeyes, it was a clean burn02:59
WildCodejdub: dunno about md5, but the burning software I used said the cd was fine and matched the image it used03:00
LowryTry a different burning app and brand of cdr03:01
LowryMight help03:01
jdubWildCode: the image and/or cd may be corrupted03:01
WildCodelol, I would if I had a different brand ... never had a problem with the app or cd brand before03:01
jdubWildCode: you should check the md5sum of the image, at the very least03:01
Gaarutogood night everybody03:01
Gaarutoand thanks03:01
Lowrynight03:02
Gwildormaybe burn the  image at a slower speed?03:02
EricNeonlol,this is morning03:02
GaarutoEricNeon, not for me03:02
Gaaruto:)03:02
Gaarutobye03:02
LowryRun a md5sum app and see if the dl was ok03:02
LowryThe forums have many questions/solutions to cdr problems on pc/ppc03:04
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EricNeonI use gentoo linux now03:05
EricNeonand I'll test my garnome-cn patch03:05
WildCodemd5sum: a491903a2d2197651864dec3836d85e0 ... matches what ubuntu site says03:05
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yzedd: Couldn't find package ncurses-devel03:05
yz  when i did: sudo apt-get install ncurses-devel03:06
EricNeonyes03:06
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EricNeonor install ncurses5-dev?03:06
hcker2000Lowry, u have any idea if the modem in the powerbook g4's is suported?03:06
yzlemme try than ericneon03:07
yzthat (not than)03:07
LowrySorry -no03:07
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WildCodejdub: md5sum matches whats on the ubuntu site, so what do you suggest ... is there anyway to force it to install modutils ...03:08
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hcker2000darn i wish i could find some info on it. i got to go to work in less than an hour and my old laptop died and im trying to get my wife laptop to dial up so i can get on the net at work03:08
LowryTry the ppc forums - if it is not working post your info03:08
Deftcan anyone tell me if there's any current work on Thunderbird 0.9 for hoary?03:08
yz  when i did: sudo apt-get install ncurses5-devel03:09
yzedd: Couldn't find package ncurses5-devel03:09
Deftlibncurses5-dev03:09
jdubWildCode: if the cd is correct, then there shouldn't be any problems between the packages at all03:11
jdubWildCode: are you sure you got the warty cd? what steps are you going through?03:11
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EricNeonDeft, I use Thunderbird 0.9 (chinese)03:12
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LowryI used a cdrdao based cdr app03:12
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LowryWorked well03:12
DeftEricNeon, just the package straight from mozilla.org?03:12
hcker2000well looks like no one uses the ppc forums03:12
EricNeonfrom gentoo mirrors03:12
lil_anthonyquestion: anyone besides me get the alsas /dev/mixer error when using gmplayer? My video will play and my sound will play but i get a looping popup that will not go away until the file is closed.03:13
EricNeonI 'm use gentoo03:13
Lowryhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=903:13
Lowryppc forum03:13
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hcker2000yea 98 whoal posts lol03:14
EricNeonDeft,why u down package from mozilla.org?03:14
WildCodejdub: boot from the cd, setup the partition, letting it know I'm an aussie, choosing my keyboard, then let it do its thing, it then comes up with a message saying that the installation has failed during installing the base system, and to check console 3 for info .. trying to go03:15
DeftEricNeon, because there isn't a deb yet for ubuntu, that's why I was asking...03:15
EricNeonif you use ubuntu ,only just et03:15
WildCodetrying to go further brings you to the list of steps (much like debians list)03:15
EricNeono?03:15
EricNeonI see03:15
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WildCodejdub: confirmed: cd fine as well ... ripped image from cd, md5sum'd it, compared it to the image I have and to the md5sum listed on the ubuntu site. All match03:17
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EricNeondebian have no thunderbird?03:17
Phr0stByteIts imposible to find good help anymore....03:17
jdubEricNeon: which package manager do you use?03:17
jduboh03:18
osiris_22anyone know the site where to get the newer gtk-guntella .deb file?03:18
jdubDeft: thunderbird will be updated when debian updates it03:18
EricNeongentoo emerge03:18
WildCodejdub: and yes, its the warty cd -> warty-release-install-i386.iso03:18
jdubWildCode: failure during base system. badness.03:19
jdubWildCode: what kinda machine?03:19
osiris_22someones gotta know where to get it lmao03:19
osiris_22come on03:19
Deftjdub, actually, they have already, missted that; good suggestion EricNeon03:19
EricNeonjdub,do you remenber me?03:19
jdubEricNeon: hrm, no?03:19
jdubDeft: it ought to be in hoary soon then03:19
EricNeonI am menber of gnome-cn03:19
jdubcool03:19
jdubenjoying ubuntu?03:20
WildCodejdub: athlon xp 2400 ... 1gig ram, 120 gig total hdd space ... radeon 9600 xt (256megs) ...03:20
EricNeonwe had test gar-cn patch03:20
Deftjdub, too late! I'm annoyed with the broken evo now! :)03:20
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EricNeonyes ,I used ubuntu last eek03:20
Phr0stByteDeft: Hoary?03:35
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DeftPhr0stByte, yes, IMAP not working03:35
EricNeonI'm also member of hiweed-debian distro dev team03:35
WildCodejdub: gigabyte mb .. network card (which the installer detected correctly)03:35
Phr0stByteDeft: How can you get annoyed with something still in developement?03:35
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EricNeonwe love debian and gentoo03:35
DeftPhr0stByte, I'm not that annoyed really, it wasn't unexpected; but I want to see the changes, and it's too much hassle to rool back03:35
Deft* wanted, roll03:35
Phr0stByteDeft: Understood. If you want bug free functionality, warty is great!03:35
jdubWildCode: hrm. weird.03:35
EricNeonjdub,we had test a chinese patch to garnome2.8.1,it's very good03:35
WildCodejdub, I didn't do anything fancy, I just followed the steps the installer took ...03:35
Els|lappyhi, i got my free cd's a few days ago, i'v just gone to install ubuntu and it;s tryingto up date from ubuntu.com, is there any way of stop this update ?03:35
DeftPhr0stByte, I know, I used it for a few weeks with no upgrading, which is an achievement for me, given that I was using debian sid+experimental most of the time before03:35
jdubEricNeon: what did you change?03:35
jdubEricNeon: (i don't maintain garnome anymore, btw)03:35
EricNeononly any chinese patch03:35
Phr0stByteDeft: Going on two months with warty here - loving every minute of it!03:35
EricNeonhttp://www.gnome-cn.org/getstart/03:35
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EricNeonwe will named it03:35
EricNeonnow ,we call it as gar-cn03:35
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WildCodejdub: any suggestions?03:35
jdubWildCode: no, perhaps when Kamion is around, he can help you (UK time)03:35
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jdubEricNeon: cool :-)03:35
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jdubEricNeon: you don't have ubuntu on your preinstalled gnome page ;-003:35
jdub;-)03:35
WildCodeI'll do the install again and write down every step so it "might" be able to be reproduced ...03:35
EricNeontoday I'll test garnome2.9.103:35
EricNeonhoho,I'll do it03:35
EricNeonubuntu~03:35
hcker2000oh well i guess i can play net hack for 10 hours03:35
jdubEricNeon: do all chinese gnome users input with pin yin?03:35
EricNeonthere are alot of pepole at chinese used ubuntu03:35
EricNeonno,we input with any chineseinput03:35
jdubEricNeon: do most know pin yin?03:35
EricNeonpinyin,WuBi,so on03:35
EricNeonevery chinese must stady pinyin at school03:35
jdubreally?03:35
jdubwow03:35
EricNeonyes,must03:35
jdubmy fiance speaks mandarin03:35
jduband said that when she was there, no one understood when she wrote in pin yin :)03:35
jdubbut now she has learnt to write in characters03:35
jdubi only know a little bit03:35
jdubni hao :-)03:35
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EricNeoncool!03:35
escozhi guys03:35
jdubhola escoz03:35
escozdoes anybody knows where can I install mysql-server from?03:35
|QuaD|escoz: apt-get03:35
escozi tried apt-get install mysql-server, but it says that the package is not on the repository03:35
jdubescoz: it's available in the main repository03:35
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mazzabrok.03:36
EricNeonpin yin is chinese nation standard03:36
mazzabrubuntu newbie here.03:36
escozthis is what I'm getting: Package mysql-server is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:36
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jdubescoz: hve you done an apt-get update?03:36
mazzabrex-slackware.03:36
escozyes..03:36
jdubescoz: that is very strange :)03:37
|QuaD|escoz: apt-cache search?03:37
mazzabrI have some problems here.03:37
mazzabreth0 is being configured at startup.03:37
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jdubescoz: what are the uncommented lines in your sources.list?03:37
mazzabrincluding default route.03:37
mazzabrit shouldn't be happening.03:37
EricNeoncomplete with PL of CHina ,taiwan,hongkong03:37
escozok, thanks a lot jdub03:37
mazzabrhow can I disable eth0 boot setup?03:37
escozthe main repository was not setup..03:38
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escozi don't know why, but anyway.. :) thanks a lot03:38
jdubmazzabr: either turn it off with the networking dialogue, or remove the 'auto eth0' line in /etc/network/interfaces03:38
mazzabrI used to edit rc.inet1.03:38
mazzabr/etc/network/interfaces.03:38
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mazzabrjdub, thanks. I'm not used to SysV init.03:38
childeHello. I've enabled XComposite in xorg.conf, and how to enable Metacity's dropshadow?03:39
mazzabranother question.03:39
mazzabrhow can I be sure that my video card is correctly configure.03:39
mazzabr?03:39
jdubchilde: that's a build-time thing, and metacity's composite support is b0rk atm.03:39
jdubchilde: best to install xcompmgr and try it.03:39
mazzabrI have an ATi Radeon 9200.03:39
jdubmazzabr: is it working properly?03:39
mazzabrjdub, it's working ok at slackware.03:40
childeidub: So I can't get dropshadow without re-compile Metacity?03:40
jdubchilde: you won't be able to do it with metacity at the moment. use xcompmgr (which runs along side metacity).03:41
mazzabrjdub, when using slackware I used to run a 3d app to verify frame-rate. I'm afraid this app is not avaiable in Ubuntu.03:41
EricNeonxcompmgr intrude more memory03:41
childejdub: EricNeon: What's the best way to get dropshadow in GNOME?03:42
escozanother question.. is there any easy way (apt-get) to get the microsoft fonts?03:42
jdubmazzabr: glxgears ought to be there. but is your video card working in ubuntu?03:42
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jdubescoz: apt-get install msttcorefonts03:42
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escozthanks !: )03:42
jdubchilde: install xcompmgr!03:42
mazzabrjdub, it's working.03:42
smeg_i want to install Mono and there is no debian package at the site is there another one elsewhere?03:42
mazzabrjdub, 1280x1024 including.03:42
jdubsmeg_: there are packages for mono in universe03:42
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childejdub: But I can't find the xcompmgr package in the repository?03:43
EricNeonletm think03:43
jdubmazzabr: so i deduce that it's correctly configured :)03:43
jdubchilde: it's in daniels's repository, mentioned on ubuntu-devel03:43
mazzabrjdub, : yes, it is!03:43
mazzabr2862 frames in 5.0 seconds = 572.400 FPS03:43
mazzabr3012 frames in 5.0 seconds = 602.400 FPS03:43
mazzabrjdub, now fullscreen:03:44
mazzabr375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.000 FPS03:44
mazzabr379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.800 FPS03:44
childejdub: Please tell me how to get that package, or how to add daniels's repository to my sources.list.03:44
mazzabrIMO it's good enough.03:44
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Deftjdub, has anything bad happened to users-admin recently? I seem to have thrown myself out of video and plugdev by running the latest version03:44
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jdubDeft: on hoary/03:45
jdub?03:45
jdubchilde: you'll have to get his deb line from his post on the ubuntu-devel mailing list03:45
|QuaD|15794 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3158.800 FPS03:45
mazzabr|QuaD|, full screen?03:46
|QuaD|no03:46
mazzabr|QuaD|, which video card?03:46
Deftjdub, yes, the version with the fancy UI for selecting groups03:46
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|QuaD|1379 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.800 FPS03:46
|QuaD|some old nvidia that i am dual monitoring on03:46
jdubDeft: could be broken in hoary :)03:46
mazzabr|QuaD|, well, I'm satisfied, I'm able to run NFSU 1024x768 full quality.03:47
Deftjdub, Ok, I'll leave it for a few more versions before I look into it then03:47
|QuaD|2x 1280x102403:47
mazzabr|QuaD|, old nvidea? which one?03:48
|QuaD|ti460003:48
mazzabr|QuaD|, honestly, much better then Radeon 9200 :o)03:48
mazzabr64bits. :o)03:48
|QuaD|haha03:49
geni get 200 fps in glxgears, beat that03:49
genhurr03:49
billytwowillyis there any way to make the file copy dialouge boxes more verbose? ie show me the speed at which it is being copied?03:49
mazzabr|QuaD|, paid so little in this video card.03:50
|QuaD|heh03:50
mazzabr|QuaD|, for now is enough.03:50
usual|tv16981 frames in 5.0 seconds = 3396.200 FPS03:50
|QuaD|tiem for me to build a new comp, with new vidcard03:50
escozescoz@escoztest:~ $ glxgears03:50
escoz2203 frames in 5.0 seconds = 440.600 FPS03:50
mazzabrmazza@bloodwarz:~ $ glxgears03:51
mazzabr2862 frames in 5.0 seconds = 572.400 FPS03:51
Gwildori get lik 4k with radeon 700003:51
escozcrapy old video card.. :)03:51
usual|tvgeforce403:51
usual|tvti03:51
Gwildor4k fps03:51
Gwildorits crazy.....default mesa drivers and all03:51
mazzabrsometimes an old video card is enough03:51
usual|tvnvidia03:51
Els|lappycan some one help me, i'v just installed ubuntu, and i can;t get to any web pages, i do have in ip address and i can ping the domains.03:51
geni have a gf2 gts haha03:51
GwildorEls|lappy, you talking to us on the ubuntu box?03:52
mazzabrEls|lappy, same problem here.03:52
mazzabrEls|lappy, using adsl?03:52
usual|tv21428 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4285.600 FPS03:52
Els|lappyGwildor : nope,03:52
Els|lappymazzabr  : yep03:52
Gwildorthere you go usual|tv03:52
mazzabrEls|lappy, : just solved here.03:52
usual|tv:)\03:52
Els|lappy<-- adsl modem, router wifi combo :) (dlink dsl-g604t)03:53
mazzabrEls|lappy, : probably the problem is that you already have your eth0 configured using DHCP.03:53
mazzabrEls|lappy, : default in instalation.03:53
mazzabrEls|lappy, : try this03:53
mazzabrEls|lappy, edit /etc/network/interfaces03:53
mazzabrEls|lappy, comment auto eth003:54
usual|tvmaybe I'll put up video tutorials of how to do things in ubuntu03:54
usual|tvheh03:54
mazzabrEls|lappy, and iface eth0 inet dhcp03:54
lil_anthonywoo hoo finally figured out how to make gmplayer not give me the alsa /dev/mixer error i'm happy now :)03:54
Gwildorlol03:54
mazzabrEls|lappy, : took note?03:54
mazzabr:o)03:54
Els|lappyyep03:54
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mazzabrEls, see y ou in 5 minutes.03:54
Els|lappylol03:55
mazzabrEls|lappy, gogogo!03:55
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mazzabr:o)03:55
mazzabrEls|lappy, hmm... use i to insert03:55
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mazzabrEls|lappy, : use esc to stop inserting03:55
mazzabrEls|lappy, : use :w to save03:56
mazzabrEls|lappy, : use :q to quit03:56
lil_anthonywould be against the rules to post a link a free ebook that i find very useful to learn linux? just trying to help is why i ask03:56
mazzabrEls|lappy, : you can also use pico, installed by default.03:56
Els|lappycan;t save the file, because it's read only03:56
billytwowillydoes ubuntu have nforce2 support built in? Will I be able to get the network card up and running with the install cd?03:56
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Gwildorlil_anthony, you can pm them too me :)03:56
mazzabrEls|lappy, : you must use root03:56
lil_anthonyalright03:56
mazzabrEls|lappy, : if already root, try :w!03:57
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mazzabrEls|lappy, but default installation makes this file rw-r--r--03:57
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Els|lappyor can;t i su as root from my own account ?03:58
mazzabrEls|lappy, : it didn't for me03:58
mazzabrEls|lappy, : at GRUB select recovery boot :o)03:58
childebg03:58
mazzabrEls|lappy, : you'll get a root shell.03:59
mazzabrEls|lappy, : passwd to a password you'll won't forget03:59
mazzabrEls|lappy, : boot again. :o)03:59
mazzabrEls|lappy, : I'm getting good on it :o)03:59
mazzabrEls|lappy, What else?03:59
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aasic1Can someone please help me with adding something to startup?04:01
aasic1cron ?  init?04:01
mazzabraasic1, : first you need to create a startup script.04:01
aasic1.sh?04:02
mazzabraasic1, like de ones you can find in /etc/init.d04:02
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aasic1okay04:02
mazzabraasic1, then you need to decide in which runlevel it'll run.04:02
mazzabraasic1, once done, you take a look at rc.<runlevel>04:03
mazzabrI mean, /etc/rc.<runlevel>04:03
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mazzabraasic1, : at rc.runlevel there are only links, basically to init.d04:04
mazzabraasic1, links are executed in alphabetical order.04:04
mazzabraasic1, : all you have to do is name your link so it is executed at the right time.04:05
mazzabraasic1, : clear?04:05
aasic1yeah04:05
aasic1hmm04:05
aasic1if it changes anything, it's httpd04:05
Els|lappymazzabr : still not working04:06
mazzabrNow it's my turn to ask. where can I find documentation about how to create .deb to Ubuntu repositories.04:06
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mazzabraasic1, httpd must be started after inetd04:06
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mazzabrEls|lappy, : wtf!04:06
Els|lappy<- is useing dhcp on a router04:06
ubuntu_hphi04:07
mazzabrEls|lappy, how does your adsl works?04:07
mazzabrEls|lappy, : may I ask the adsl provider?04:07
Els|lappynildram04:07
ubuntu_hpanyone using ubuntu on HP pavillion laptops?04:07
Els|lappybut it's 1 ip shaired between 5 pcs04:07
mazzabrthe adsl modem?04:07
Els|lappydlink dsl-g604t04:07
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childejdub: I've installed xcompmgr, but after I used it, when I maximize a window, it occupied all the screen, even covered the GNOME panel.04:08
childeIs it xcompmgr's bug or GNOME's bug?04:08
mazzabrEls|lappy, : 5 pcs? 5 real IPs?04:08
electroglasAnyone know why smb network browsing quit working on Hoary?04:08
jdubchilde: bit of both, really :)04:08
ubuntu_hpbrb guy.. ")04:08
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Els|lappy5 interil ip (192.168.1.* )04:08
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childejdub: Have you got the same error when you use it?04:08
mazzabrEls|lappy, : and a internet router.04:08
jdubchilde: yes04:08
Els|lappymazzabr  : bingo04:09
electroglasI did a fresh install of Warty and smb worked fine. I then changed to Hoary and it quit...04:09
mazzabrEls|lappy, : so you should't have removed that both lines.04:09
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mazzabrEls|lappy, and you shouldn't also run pppoeconf04:09
mazzabrEls|lappy, : simply configure eth0 using DHCP.04:10
mazzabrit should work :o/04:10
mazzabrEls|lappy, : have you ever tried this?04:10
childejdub: OK. But at least I can show my screenshot to my friend who use Mac OS X.04:10
electroglas"smb:///" is not a valid location error on accessing Windows network04:10
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Els|lappydid not run pppoeconf, but told ubuntu to use dhcp04:10
mazzabrEls|lappy, : mistery.......04:11
genelectroglas, i get it also04:11
mazzabrEls|lappy, sincerely, i don't know.04:11
gendoesnt break sharing to ubuntu by other machines though04:11
mazzabrEls|lappy, : i came from slacware TODAY.04:11
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mazzabrEls|lappy:  jdub gave some initial light, and now I'm walking on my on legs.04:11
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imanewbieI've just installed ubuntu04:12
imanewbiehow do I log as root?04:12
genwhy would you want that04:12
imanewbiecause I have been using linux for ages and I want to install flash, java and this kind of crap04:13
Els|lappytbh, i think my router is b0rked04:13
genso use sudo04:13
imanewbiesudo passwd root04:13
imanewbie?04:13
(ilmari/#ubuntu) imanewbie: do as you were told during the install, use sudo04:13
(ilmari/#ubuntu) sudo -s gives you a shell04:14
electroglasimanewbie - I believe your normal user password will do everything you need04:14
Els|lappyhole, well, thanks for the help mazzabr04:15
mazzabrsee ya.04:15
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imanewbiecant I damm log as root? =(04:19
electroglasLoss of smb support reported as bug Bug #4031 on https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4031. Anyone else lose smb with Hoary? Any ideas on how to fix it?04:19
imanewbieI want to log as root so I can use apt-get =/04:20
jdubimanewbie: use sudo04:21
jdubimanewbie: search the FAQ for root to find out more about this04:21
jdubimanewbie: root is disabled in ubuntu :)04:21
imanewbiewhut?!04:22
(ilmari/#ubuntu) imanewbie: you were told during the install04:22
Ruffian|Q|Everyone, join #dualboot04:22
Gwildor#dualboot04:23
jdubelectroglas: looks like it wasn't built04:23
Gwildortis empty04:23
(ilmari/#ubuntu) imanewbie: use sudo. (or aptitude or synaptic, which do it for you)04:23
(ilmari/#ubuntu) imanewbie: 'sudo -s' gives you a root shell04:23
jdubbetter to use sudo su -04:24
jdubso you don't mess up root's environment04:24
(ilmari/#ubuntu) shoudln't 'sudo -H -s' do the same trick?04:24
imanewbieoki I got it04:24
jdubilmari: not entirely, no04:24
imanewbiecan't I do apt-get install licq?!04:24
imanewbiecan't find the package =(04:24
jdubimanewbie: use gaim (licq is in universe, which is unsupported - you'll have to enalbe universe yourself if you want to use it)04:25
Ruffian|Q|Hey everybody, I am trying to get #dualboot started (im the op).  And Im looking for some good ops, with good dual boot experience!  So please join, and help out!04:25
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escozthanks a lot guys,04:26
escozthanks, jdub04:26
escozgood night04:26
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imanewbiehow do I installl kde?04:30
Hikaru79imanewbie, you could use Synaptic04:30
Amaranthoh, heh04:30
Amaranththe ubuntu update manager is a GNOME thing04:30
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Amaranththey just rebrand it04:30
Amaranthit's new04:30
jdubit was written for ubuntu04:31
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imanewbieDudes thanks a lot I think I got it all bye04:34
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Nefarousndiswrapper question with ubuntu, my wlan0 i/f won't start on boot, I still have to type ifup wlan0 (via sudo) and I even have "auto wlan0" in my interfaces file, help?04:40
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BWF89hey04:41
BWF89anyone there?04:42
NefarousI am here ...04:42
BWF89yay!04:42
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BWF89I can't copy Ubuntu to my HDD partition 5. weird04:43
imanewbiehail, sorry bug again, but how do I use apt-get to install kde?04:43
Riddellimanewbie: sudo apt-get install kde04:43
cbpyew00t04:43
Riddellor `sudo apt-get install kdelibs kdebase` if you don't want everything04:43
cbpyegot NVidia drivers going04:43
Riddellimanewbie: you need to have universe allowed04:44
NefarousBWF89: more detail?04:44
|QuaD|imanewbie: if you are a newbie, why are you going to kde?04:44
|QuaD|why not use the one that is meant for ubuntu04:44
BWF89Nef: when Ubuntu live cd boots up it gives me all my options and says "copy to hdd parition 1" why doesn't it have HDD partition 5?04:45
NefarousBWF89: hmmm, haven't used the live CD myself, just the install CD ...04:45
BWF89I tried to install Fefora Core 2 to my partition 5 and it wouldn't work either04:46
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cbpyeHi, My name's CBPye, I'm somewhat new to debain-ish distros, and was wondering how I could easily install this deb I downloaded?04:46
BWF89NOTE: Partition 5 is my WinXP backup partition. I deleted it to try to install Linux04:46
BWF89it's only 2.75 gigs04:46
NefarousBWF89: what's fdisk -l say for that partition?04:47
BWF89what04:47
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NefarousBWF89: can you determine what partition type it is, etc?04:47
thoreauputiccbpye: the answer is probably: don't. Instead use the synaptic package manager04:47
BWF89I think it's FAT3204:47
BWF89i THINK04:48
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thoreauputiccbpye: what is the .deb?04:48
Ruffian|Q|Anyone here who knows alot about dual booting, please join #dualboot.  I am trying to get it started to help people out with multiple bootloaders (GRUB, GDBS tm, LILO, Windows Loader, and others)  Please join, and if you qualify, you get ops!04:48
cbpyepoint2play 1.3.2 (I'm a transgaming subscriber)04:48
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NefarousBWF89: maybe it's trying to keep you from shooting yourself in foot ... hmmm, ...04:48
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imanewbiecant  Iapt-get install kde?04:48
Ruffian|Q|yes04:48
Ruffian|Q|just dont be using it04:49
imanewbiehow?04:49
NefarousBWF89: again, I haven't dealt with live cd ... it was pretty straightforward with the install04:49
BWF89I'm saving up to get my own PC so I won't have to worry for awhile04:49
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BWF89I just use this live cd so I can use IRC chat04:49
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Nefarouscbpye: use dpkg --install <filename>.deb04:49
thoreauputiccbpye: OK in that case it won't be in the repositories. You can try using :  sudo dpkg -i <name_of_deb>04:49
BWF89does anyone know what "internet time" is?04:50
thoreauputiceither dpkg -i or dpkg --install should work04:50
Nefarousndiswrapper question with ubuntu, my wlan0 i/f won't start on boot, I still have to type ifup wlan0 (via sudo) and I even have "auto wlan0" in my interfaces file, help?04:50
deFrysktime waisted04:50
socommBWF89: http://www.google.com04:51
BWF89it says it's @994 internet time now04:51
BWF89k04:51
jdubBWF89: it's a wacky thing swatch thought would be a good idea04:52
jdubBWF89: kinda like decimal time ;)04:52
cbpyew00t04:52
cbpyeworkin'04:52
BWF89what is decmal time?04:52
thoreauputicNefarous: quick and dirty solution might be to edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add that command at the end (not really the "Debian way" but should work)04:52
Nefarousthoreauputic: thanks ...04:53
cbpyethanks for the help guys04:53
BWF89you guys want to read something funny? http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/22/224724804:53
jdubBWF89: time based on 10 rather than 1204:54
thoreauputicNefarous: try it and see... I think it will work: obviously you need to use sudo to edit that file04:54
BWF89hmmm04:54
cbpyeI may end up liking Ubuntu.  dpkg is enough like slackware's installpkg to make me feel at home.04:54
jdubBWF89: (or really, 10000 or whatever swatch used)04:54
BWF89but we have 24 hours not 2004:54
jdubBWF89: internet time uses 10000 clicks or something04:54
jdubBWF89: it's totally different04:54
jdubBWF89: and also totally irrelevant ;)04:54
BWF89it's just something they put on ubuntu so they can say AH HA! WE HAVE GOT INTERNET TIME! and windows doesn't kind of thign right04:55
socommBWF89: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_time04:56
jdubBWF89: no, it's a gnome thing. i don't know why it hasn't been removed yet.04:56
ajmitch_jdub: surely there'd be thousands of users complaining if it's removed?04:56
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socommBWF89: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Internet_time04:57
jdubajmitch_: somehow i don't think so :)04:58
socommBWF89: that's probably the one you'd like to read.04:58
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BWF89pretty interesting thx04:58
BWF89gotta go to bed04:58
BWF89cya guys tomarrow04:58
ajmitch_jdub: do you know if anyone is working on a gnome nx client?04:58
jdubajmitch_: nup, haven't heard04:58
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socommajmitch_: I'm sure there are millions of users that don't know of it's exsistence [sp?] . :^P04:58
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BWF89CYA04:58
ajmitch_jdub: ok, I just thought it might be useful, since the libs are available under the GPL05:00
htaccessajmitch_: where you ever in DunLUG?05:00
jdubajmitch_: it'd be g-rad05:00
ajmitch_htaccess: yes05:00
htaccessthought i recognised thename05:01
ajmitch_heh05:01
ajmitch_I'm just in aus for a few weeks05:01
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|QuaD|what are decent ide's other than kdevelop?05:03
|QuaD|comparable for gtk05:03
cbpyeanyone know how to enable scrollwheel-on-the-desktop-for-changing-workspaces?05:03
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) |QuaD|: anjuta05:03
thoreauputic|QuaD|: anjuta is one05:03
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|QuaD|any others?05:04
socommanjuta is *the one*05:04
|QuaD|heh05:04
socommEclipse maybe?05:04
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|QuaD|i was just curious what choices were out there05:06
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ubuntu_hphello05:06
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socommHello.05:06
ubuntu_hpneed some help with configuring sound on my hp laptop :)05:06
socomm|QuaD|: Anjuta is probably the best alternative to kdevelop.05:06
|QuaD|ok :)05:06
ubuntu_hpanyone?05:07
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(Lathiat/#ubuntu) hrmm05:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) im doing an upgrade and anythign whcih does something this > 11:58 <@neil> tat05:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) not that05:10
htaccessobviously doensnt know about the freenode school of dont ask to ask just ask05:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) gconftool-2 --makefile-install-rule /usr/share/gconf/schemas/yelp.schemas05:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) that05:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) just sits there, if i strace it its hung on a poll()05:10
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masshmm, any hints on getting cyrus working? I'm having cyrus probs05:13
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socommDon't you just hated when people come on here and ask for help?05:14
socomm:^P05:15
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ajmitch_socomm: sure, but isn't that why most people come here? :)05:16
ubuntu-geekany channel ops around?05:16
masshmm, I don't mind at all05:16
ajmitch_helping people can be good05:17
|rufius|yay for splits!05:17
socommYikes, NetSplit.05:18
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neighborleehey guys does ubuntu have kde now as well ?05:19
neighborleeverifying for someone05:19
neighborleeyou know..windows converts LOL05:20
deFrysknot really05:20
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socommneighborlee: you mean as on the CD?05:20
neighborleeno...in repos.05:20
socommneighborlee: it is in the default reps.05:20
neighborleeI thought it might be05:20
socomms/reps/repos05:20
neighborleeok thx05:20
neighborleeyeah05:20
socommYeah just `apt-get install kde', all should be well.05:20
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jdubsocomm: it's in the unsupported universe repo.05:21
socommjdub: but it's there. :^/05:22
imanewbieanyone using kde?05:23
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thoreauputicI try to avoid it, but very occasionally I do </joke>05:24
ajmitch_yes, but on sid, not ubuntu05:24
EricNeonubuntu=debian+gnome05:25
EricNeonno kde05:25
imanewbie=/05:25
thoreauputicEricNeon: it's possible to install KDE05:25
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EricNeonpossible?05:25
neighborleethoreauputic, lol05:26
thoreauputicEricNeon: scroll up ;)05:26
imanewbiehow is it possible?05:26
neighborleeEricNeon, and i'm glad of it...enough kde already LOL05:26
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deFryskstart with kdebase and continue from there05:26
thoreauputicquote>> <jdub> socomm: it's in the unsupported universe repo.05:26
deFryskthe kde metapack does not work05:26
need_helphello room05:27
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EricNeonI had not used KDE05:27
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need_helpany tips on configuring alsa?05:28
socommEricNeon: I've installed kde from the Universe repo without much fuss, but that was a few months back.05:28
EricNeonlol05:28
thoreauputicneed_help: waiting for the right phase of the moon and sacrificing your first-born can help05:29
jjhI concur05:29
EricNeonmany pepole like talk about KDE or gnome in chinese05:30
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EricNeonthey maybe brush day and day05:31
imanewbiehow do I change my repositories for universal?05:31
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socommneed_help: why don't you tell us what your problem is, we may be able to help.05:31
socommimanewbie: edit /etc/apt/sources.list05:31
EricNeonapt-setup05:32
need_helpsure.. was scared to open my mouth after that!05:32
EricNeonchoose a mirrors near by you05:32
LowryAre the forums ok http://www.ubuntuforums.org/?05:32
LowryI get the test page05:33
need_helpim trying to get sound up on my laptop05:33
need_helpits using the atiixp driver05:33
need_helpi can modprobe it okay.. but .. kinda lost how to proceed after that05:33
imanewbiesocomm: thx05:34
thoreauputicneed_help: if it works when you modprobe it, put it in /etc/modules05:34
thoreauputicthen it should load on boot05:34
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need_helpi can modprobe the module. but alsamixer doesnt work.05:35
need_helpit fails. no sound device found05:35
thoreauputicneed_help: try running alsaconf after you modprobe05:35
need_helpis alsaconf installed by default?05:35
thoreauputicsudo alasconf actually05:35
socommneed_help: yes05:36
thoreauputic*alsaconf05:36
need_helpthanks.. trying now05:36
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need_helpyeah.. lol.. alas..05:36
thoreauputicoh , alas , me alsa has gone away, .... lalala05:36
EricNeonhoho05:37
imanewbieuse a walkman =)05:39
need_helpumm guys.. cant find alsaconf05:39
EricNeon dining05:39
thoreauputic"Alas, poor alsa, I knew him well... a fellow of infinite jest"05:39
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zuluwarriorhi05:40
jmhodgesheya05:40
jmhodgesmadsen, the fix from last night didnt work :-/05:40
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mitochondyuhot question!~05:41
mitochondyuhow to make xscreensaver to use as wallpaper?05:41
mitochondyuanyone?05:41
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socommmitochondyu: -root05:42
zuluwarriori had some general questions about ubuntu, being a newbie at linux and it looking really good05:42
thoreauputicmitochondyu: find the hck you want, and run it on the root window05:42
jmhodgesok, im on the ubuntu live cd and i've got a ubuntu partition on this drive that i can't reach due to a windows install overwriting the MBR05:42
jmhodgeshow the heck do i get it back to the way it was?05:42
mitochondyu????05:42
mitochondyuxscreensaver -root>?05:42
mitochondyuam really newb here05:42
mitochondyusprry05:42
zuluwarriorknoppix05:42
socommmitochondyu: you need to run the screen saver with the -root flag.05:42
thoreauputicmitochondyu: no05:42
jmhodgesi tried using the grub command line, but "install (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0,0)/boot/grub/stage2" didnt seem to do it05:43
mitochondyuan example will be really appreciated05:43
thoreauputicmitochondyu: hold on a minute05:43
mitochondyuvery newb here05:43
mitochondyuthanks alot tho05:43
socommmitochondyu: let me check.05:43
mitochondyuthanks so05:43
jmhodgescan anybody help me with my grub-fu ?05:44
thoreauputicmitochondyu: for instance, firat try running e.g.  /usr/lib/xscreensaver/drift05:45
socommmitochondyu: the screen saver are under /usr/lib/xscreensaver05:45
thoreauputicmitochondyu: it should run in a window (run it from a terminal, just as above)05:45
need_helpsocomm.. sorry pal.. but I cant find alsaconf05:45
mitochondyuok so i type,  xscreensaver -root /usr,,....???05:45
socommmitochondyu: you can run a screensaver like so /usr/lib/xscreensaver/goop -root05:46
thoreauputicmitochondyu: the -root option is given to the particular program05:46
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mitochondyuok let me try thanks alot guys05:46
s0cksHey people05:47
thoreauputicmitochondyu: no, you type /usr/lib/xscreensaver/name-of-hack-here -root05:47
jjhjmhodges: man grub-install05:47
socommneed_help: apt-cache search alsaconf05:47
need_helptrying05:47
socommneed_help: apt-get install alsa-utils05:47
need_helpalsa utils is installed05:47
Lowrylater05:48
socommmake sure you typed alsaconf not alasconf05:48
socomm:P05:48
thoreauputicneed_help: you need to run alsaconf with sudo, BTW05:48
socommyeah sudo alsaconf05:48
thoreauputicsocomm: heheh05:48
need_helpyup.. running it05:48
need_helpwith sudo05:48
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jmhodgesjjh, i've..05:48
jmhodgesargh..05:48
socommhmmm doesn't seem like alsaconf is here05:48
need_helpyeah.. where the hell did it go?05:49
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install alsa-utils05:49
mitochondyuhmmm... it will display it in a window box, but not as wallpaper05:49
zuluwarrioris the kernel that is installed with ubuntu heavily modified, or can one install a vanilla kernel? Or, instead does ubuntu include the kernel sources with installation?05:49
mitochondyu:((05:50
jmhodgesjjh, that doesn't work at all, it gives me issues about missing /lib files05:50
thoreauputicmitochondyu: it will - you just need the right -root flag05:50
need_helpthanks.. guys ..05:50
need_helpbe back in a lil while05:50
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mitochondyuusing -root dont display anything05:50
thoreauputicmitochondyu: see if there's a man page for the hack you are running05:50
mitochondyuhack?05:50
jmhodgesgrub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hda1/boot/grub/ /dev/hda05:50
jmhodgescp: listing attributes of `//lib/grub/i386-pc/stage1': Unknown error 52405:50
thoreauputicmitochondyu: this is in gnome, right?05:50
mitochondyuyupe05:51
socommmitochondyu: that's because nautilus is over your -root window05:51
mitochondyuoh so what to do?05:51
jjhjmhodges: did you mount your ubuntu partition?05:51
socommkill nautilus05:51
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jmhodgesjjh, well yes05:51
thoreauputicmitochondyu: gnome has a silly thing where it writes on the root window -- as a result things that want to run on that window don't get seen05:51
socommor find the name of the nautilus window05:51
jmhodgesjjh, and i also try /mnt/hda105:51
jjhjmhodges: chroot into it and try running grub-install05:52
thoreauputicmitochondyu: what socomm says ^^^05:52
mitochondyuok, guess am gonna kill nautilus and try again05:52
mitochondyuthanks again guys05:52
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zuluwarriorare the kernel sources included with the install cd?05:52
jmhodgesjjh, that doesn't work since chroot does not create the proper /devs05:53
socommzuluwarrior: think so, though not installed by default.05:53
jmhodgeser.. /dev's05:53
zuluwarriori have some patches i must apply for my hardware :|05:53
thoreauputiczuluwarrior: I don't think so05:53
jmhodgesi've been down this road before..05:53
jjhok05:53
zuluwarriorwow, 2 different answeres hehe05:53
socommzuluwarrior: mount the cd and see for yourself.05:53
Rene_SI can come up with something and make it 3 if ya like05:53
jmhodgesjjh, /sbin/grub-install: line 479: /dev/null: Permission denied05:54
jmhodgesThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.05:54
s0cksHey people.05:54
jmhodgesthe first of those two is repeated ~10 times05:54
jjhyou're root too?05:54
thoreauputicwhy would kernel sources be on the CD? Few people would need them , and they are apt-gettable05:54
jjhoh, I see what you mean05:54
socommthoreauputic: for those who don't have access to the internet.05:55
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jmhodgesjjh, yes, i am :)05:55
socommthoreauputic: and to roll your own kernel :^/05:55
jmhodgesjjh, its a root terminal, and then i tossed sudo on top of that just to be sure05:56
thoreauputicsocomm: ah, but then you would need a seven CD set a-la-Debian ;-)05:56
zuluwarriorbecause thoreauputic, i have patches i must install for my hardware to work properly, like the battery indicator and other acpi stuff05:56
socommthoreauputic: the kernel is only like ~30 megs.05:56
thoreauputiczuluwarrior: yes, I understand - maybe what you need is linux-headers or linux-source05:57
zuluwarrioroh maybe, i am new to linux so i dont know05:57
cbpyeanyone got a source address for synaptic that will include wxPython or PyGTK?05:57
socomm~35.4 to be exact.05:57
jjhjmhodges: so there are no dev's under the chrooted directory?05:57
thoreauputicthey changed the name from kernel-headers I believe05:57
zuluwarriorcan you use the linux source to somehow inject the patches into the kernel?05:58
socommzuluwarrior: you can compile modules and load them that way.05:58
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socommzuluwarrior: but if you have to patch the whole kernel, you'll have to roll your own.05:58
zuluwarrioroh that sounds complicated :|05:59
bborkkcbpye: Which version of wxPython are you looking for?05:59
zuluwarriorthat is what i have to do though05:59
jmhodgesjjh, no, chroot just doesn't make the proper devs.. even though im root, it claims that /dev/null cannot be touched by grub-install05:59
socommzuluwarrior: not really.05:59
jmhodgeswhich is ludicrous05:59
socommzuluwarrior: it's a snap once you get the hang of it.05:59
cbpyebborkk: one that works well with BitTornado.05:59
socommzuluwarrior: http://linuxjunior.org/cgi-bin/pet/pet.cgi?SUBMIT=Display&id=11006:00
jmhodgesroot@ubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/hda06:00
jmhodges/sbin/grub-install: line 477: /dev/null: Permission denied06:00
zuluwarriorso if install ubuntu, and then apt-get the kernel sources, and then apply the patches, and then roll the kernel, it would work? and nothing that worked before would be broken?06:00
jmhodgescrw-rw-rw-  1 root root 1, 3 Oct 29 15:15 /dev/null06:00
jmhodgessee?06:00
jjhI see06:00
socommzuluwarrior: yes assuming that you use ubuntu's kernel config.06:00
zuluwarrioryes that is what i would use i suppose06:01
bborkkcbpye: Well, there's a big difference between wxPython 2.4 and 2.5.06:01
socommzuluwarrior: yes that should do it, just the same kernel with new functionality.06:02
zuluwarriorcool06:02
zuluwarriori think i almost have enough confidence to install this ubuntu :O06:02
bborkkcbpye: 2.4 should be available from any standard Debian unstable repository.  2.5 is available from experimental repositories.  Check the Debian packages website for exact addresses.06:02
socommzuluwarrior: good luck.06:03
socommI'm off to bed now, cya guys.06:03
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zuluwarriorgood night06:03
jmhodgesso anyone know whtas going on with this?06:04
jmhodges..06:04
bborkkAnyone have any success with ACPI, wireless (ipw2200), and a FireGL card working together in harmony?06:07
jmhodgesargh! i have so much in that partition.. fsck06:08
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jmhodgesoh fsck.. apparently my stage2 file is missing06:12
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wildcodeanyone here installed fglrx-driver without issue ... I get it installed and use the fglrxconfig, but X is refusing to use the fglrx driver ... it keeps telling me its using indirect more06:19
wildcodemode06:19
wildcodeits also saying that XFree86-DRI extention is missing06:20
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billytwowillyI'm trying to create a 120 gig partition on a 160 gig drive so I can software raid it with 2 120 gig drives. It won't create a 120 gig partion, just 119.9 saying 120 is too large. Why is this doing that?06:39
Tomcat_Uh.06:40
Tomcat_120 Gig sounds like one of those magical addressing marks...06:40
billytwowillythe 120's show a primary partition of 120.0 GB06:41
billytwowillyit's 137 gb isn't it?06:41
billytwowillyThis is a brand new nforce2 board06:41
Tomcat_Yeah 137 as well, but I think I've read something about 120 GB-problems as well...06:41
Tomcat_Mh...06:41
billytwowillycan you point me to anything?06:41
Tomcat_No idea then.06:41
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Tomcat_No, I'm not really one of the techies here anyway. :)06:41
Chib1My partition is 10 gigs D:06:41
Chib1160*06:41
billytwowillyoh well... 400 mb isn't that big a deal I suppose..06:42
wildcodeok, got fglrx working, eventually06:42
wildcodecan someone please explain why I can only use 1 net application at a time, ie: if I try to open the browser and goto goole, I get dns issues, but if I close xchat then open the browser and goto google, it works np06:43
nevynthat's whack.06:43
Tomcat_wildcode: Bad router or modem?06:43
Tomcat_I've heard that some routers have problems with the many connections of P2P apps... maybe yours has taken it a step further. :)06:44
wildcodeTomcat_, nar, works fine in windows without touching the router06:44
Tomcat_Oh, alright.06:44
billytwowillyhmm.06:45
marioHello06:45
billytwowillythe software raid thing says "When RAID is configured, no additional changes to the partitions in the disks containing phsical volumes are allowed." Does this mean I can't change partitions on the same disk as a software raid partition, or just that I can't change the partitions in the software raid?06:45
marioI found a bug on Eye of GNOME, may be it's reported, or isn't a bug, but in two Ubuntu machine this freeze the system.  When EOG show a image, resize the paned complete to left, and then resize very very slow to right, this freeze my GNOME.06:48
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tolstoy-is there a nice readme for ssh'ing from one ubuntu to another and running X software?  It used to be so easy...06:49
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stuNNedtolstoy-, set it in sshd_config then 'ssh -X user@host' afaik06:51
stuNNedtolstoy-, and restart sshd of course06:51
Chib1tolstoy- FreeNX? :/06:52
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cowbudjava?06:52
cowbudFAq06:52
cowbudhrmm no match06:52
cowbudahh06:52
cowbud:)06:52
tolstoy-Hm. sshd_config has ForwardX11 to "yes".  Is that what you meant?  Seemed installed that way.06:52
stuNNedyep06:52
tolstoy-I'll try the -X06:53
tolstoy-Ah, that did it.06:53
tolstoy-Who'd've thought.06:53
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billytwowillyIs the installer supposed to only let me configure a software RAID0 or RAID1 and not RAID5, or have I done something wrong?06:55
dr_willishmm - i set up this windo2ws machine with raid. :P it seemed to help a lot. Need to try it in linux sometime.06:56
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billytwowillydr_willis,  linux raid destroys windows raid. Linux can do it in software06:56
dr_willisthat remminds me - this new machine  i built had a serial ata raid controller that could do raid 0, or raid 1, or raid 1/0 - But I saw no mention of what '1/0' does.06:57
dr_willisbillytwowilly,  but if the hardware is there - isent it a better idea to let it do it in hardware.06:57
billytwowillydr_willis, Depends. you may well get better performance out of software06:57
dr_willisseems most every new motherboard has onboard raid these days. this is the first machine ive actually used it in.06:58
billytwowillydr_willis, you will take a cpu hit though. 15-20 % to do raid 5 on a decent machine.. atleast that's what I've been quoted06:58
OrngeTidehrm. ubuntu has the best installation program for a ppc linux distro. nice06:58
billytwowillysome onboard raid cards suck hardcore. Your mileage may vary.06:58
dr_willisyea - im not even sure what raid 5 does. :P i just wanted SPEED on the xp box.06:58
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dr_willisOrngeTide,  heh - i used linux on my little old imac ages ago.. and it wasent pretty... :P06:59
billytwowillydr_willis, http://linux.cudeso.be/raid.php06:59
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OrngeTidedr_willis, ah. i used to run gentoo on this ibook but gentoo got in a wierd state where i couldn't fix it unless i rebuilt gcc for ppc on some other machine. so i gave up on it.06:59
billytwowillybasically, raid0= fast, but no fault tolerence, one drive goes and you are screwed for the whole array. raid one is just mirrored. raid 5= parity blocks on each drive so you get fast but you also get fault tolerence07:00
htaccess_OrngeTide: do you dual boot osx?07:00
dr_willisyea - i am still tyrying to figure out what the MB manual ment by Raid 1/007:00
OrngeTideraid5 can only tolerate single failures. but that's  better than nothing.07:00
dr_willisthat page mentioons raid 1+0, but not sure they are talking the same.07:01
billytwowillydr_willis, you need 4 drives to do that.07:01
billytwowillydr_willis, basically, it is a raid 0 of 2 or more raid 1 arrays07:01
OrngeTidehtaccess_, yea. although mainly because linux support for the original airport card is mediocre.07:01
dr_willisbillytwowilly,  yea thats what i just read.07:01
dr_willisso it still makes me wonder what the mb manual ment by raid 1/0 - perhaps they were to refering to a setting where you used EITHER raid 0 or 107:02
billytwowillydr_willis,  that page is quite decent for explaining. God bless google;)07:02
dr_willisBut heck - this little box is decent for me now. :P07:02
OrngeTidei used to have linux only on this machine. but when i broke down and paid for osx 10.3 i started doing dual boot. (10.3 is a lot faster on this rage128-based ibook than PB - 10.2 was)07:02
dr_willisbillytwowilly,  right :p i think the mb manual is the error07:02
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billytwowillydr_willis, they probably mean RIAD 1007:02
dr_willisOrngeTide,  my pooor little imac dv barely handles OS-X :) but it sure looks purty!07:02
dr_willisbillytwowilly,  heh - i dont see how the MB can do that. it just has 2, serial ata cionectors.07:03
OrngeTidewe use 48-drive LVM at work. linux performs pretty well. managed to max out the bandwidth of 48 sata150 7200rpm drives just as a few raid5s07:03
OrngeTidedr_willis, yea. that's really pushing it for osx.07:03
dr_willisOrngeTide,  heh its just a little 'ssh' to the linux box machine. and some light web surfing. so it does its job.07:04
dr_willispoor imac's monitor is slowly dieing out on me. *sigh*07:04
OrngeTidemy ibook is 500mhz and has 256mb ram. so osx is pretty reasonable on it07:04
dr_willisyea i need more ram for it. but its barely wiorth the efrfort. the thing is only used a few hrs a month.07:04
OrngeTidei use it for a dvd player to my tv (star trek:ds9) while i download stuff, what more could i ask for out of a laptop. :)07:05
dr_willisi noticed the imac dv. i got plays dvd.. but when they come out.. they are very very very warm..07:05
OrngeTidedr_willis, linux on it with a light-weight window manager (ion, blackbox, etc) would make it a pretty handy remote terminal.07:06
dr_willissad that apple couldent put a little fan in the case at least.07:06
dr_willisOrngeTide,  yea. :P i use vnc/ssh on it is about all.07:06
dr_williskids ocasionally use it for web surfing/yahoo when iother pcs are busy07:06
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OrngeTidethey should've but a subwoofer in the case. then to cool it you could turn up the volume and push the hot air out like a pump. :)07:06
Arioc1Could someone help me with a widescreen resolution problem?07:07
OrngeTidei really like the eMac .. it's cheap and fast. i'm probably going to get one of those next.07:07
dr_willishee hee - i considered ripping apart the imac dv. and trying to get it into a more normal pc case.07:07
OrngeTidedon't bother. they are worth quite a bit on ebay as is07:07
OrngeTidesince they have a lot of upgrade potential people(suckers) will pay extra07:08
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dr_willisI just build a AMD64 pc07:08
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Arioc1Anyone?07:08
billytwowillyanyone what?07:08
billytwowillyoh07:08
billytwowillynm07:08
OrngeTideit turns out that an upgradable mac is worth almost as much as the same model that has all the upgrades(processor, ram, hdd, etc)07:08
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Arioc1Widescreen resolution problem...07:09
=== Amaranth . Want . Mac .
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OrngeTidethere are cpu kits for imac dv to do a faster G3 or a G4 on it. even though those kits cost almost as much as a new mac, people will tl buy them on ebay.07:10
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) haha07:11
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) I bought a playstation 2 s/h from EB07:11
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) and I'm selling it for more on ebay07:11
Surtyou could always run os x on your pc07:11
Amaranthi have pearpc07:11
Surtk?07:12
AmaranthI already run OS X on my PC. :P07:12
Surtthanks for sharing07:12
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Rene_SHow well does that work ?07:12
AmaranthIt doesn't. :P07:12
Surthttp://infinity.servebeer.com/~surtq/PearPC.jpg07:12
cowbudis it just me or does it seem logical that with multi desktops if I open an application then change desktops that application should still appear on the desktop it was originally started on?07:12
Surtpearpc works07:12
AmaranthI was one of the first to wait the 8 hours for an OS X install on it.07:13
AmaranthBut it isn't usable.07:13
Surtjust gotta put a lil elbow greese into it07:13
cowbudAmaranth: hah07:13
Surtwell yeah07:13
OrngeTideSurt, i'm trying to get rid of my pcs. pcs stink07:13
Surt8 hours?07:13
genpcs don't stink07:13
Surthow crap07:13
AmaranthSurt: Did you ever use 0.1?07:13
OrngeTidemy only pc i like is an 800mhz via c3. :P07:13
Surtneeds abotu half a gig of memory allocated to it to run decent07:14
OrngeTidemy athlon is just a pig.07:14
cowbudPCs are cheaper hardware07:14
OrngeTideyea. *cheap*07:14
cowbudand therefore win in my book07:14
OrngeTidecheaply made:P07:14
genorngetide, hush07:14
cowbudyah well I have sat down at plenty of macs and been surprised at how slow applications react..07:14
Surtmacs tend to be better hardware if you care to put 4 grand into a machine07:14
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cowbudI see no insentive to move to Mac07:14
gencowbud, same07:14
billytwowillyanyone want to post in here the warty metaverse deb source and save me the trouble of finding another mouse to find it on this computer?07:14
Amarantha Pentium M with SSE3 and x86-64 for the desktop would _rock_07:15
OrngeTideSurt, yea. that's the problem i have. I just buy a pcs and use the money left over to buy anime07:15
Surtlol07:15
Amaranththat thing can run at 600Mhz and use 3.5W of power07:15
Rene_SWell Mac does, apparently alot of there new sales are a direct connection from there ipod sales07:15
OrngeTideAmaranth, oh man. that would be nice. i wish the pentium m mini-itx boards were more available07:15
Surti find the complete lack of a moderator in here...07:15
Amaranthand you can cool it without a fan07:15
Surt...scary07:15
Surtlol07:15
genthis is so incredibly off topic guys07:15
Surt*operator07:15
Surtyou could run ubuntu on a mac07:16
OrngeTidemy athlon only has two fans in it. one for the power supply. and one for the radiator. :)07:16
Surtso it isn't _that_ ot07:16
OrngeTideSurt, i'm installing ubuntu on my ibook right now.07:16
Surtlol07:16
Rene_SWell if I buy a mac and an Ipod i will be sure to run Ubuntu on it .... back on topic07:16
AmaranthWhat a waste of a good iBook.07:16
Amaranth:P07:16
gena newer ibook?07:16
OrngeTidenice thing is that ssh seems to work find while it's doing all it's apt-get and final installation crap.07:16
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OrngeTidelaptops have slow harddrives so this sort of stuff takes forever.07:17
OrngeTidegen, no. i have a white dual-usb 500mhz G3 ibook07:17
genk07:17
Surti kinda like os x07:17
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OrngeTideit's a replacement for my ugly toilet seat ibook g3 that i smashed07:17
Surtif i had a newer mac i'd just leave it07:17
Surtthat reminds me07:18
AmaranthOS X > Ubuntu > * ;)07:18
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AmaranthSoon DragonflyBSD might move Ubuntu out of the #2 position.07:18
genposition in what07:18
OrngeTideos x is actually setup better than linux right now for me. there aren't any good linux ppc patches to swap capslock and control. but there is uControl for osx that does a great job at it. (i gotta have ctrl next to A)07:18
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OrngeTidewell osx doesn't support a lot of my weird junk i have. like i use a funny cheap usb serial adapter on my ibook to debug my gumstix ( http://www.gumstix.com/ )07:20
OrngeTideSurt, yea. i used to do that. but i ended up with about 3 cheap keyboards piling up in my trash and thought it was silly07:20
AmaranthOrngeTide: damn, i was going to ask you if you were a sun fan right before you pointed that out07:20
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Surt:p07:21
Surtno keyboards07:21
Surtdon't think i have ever had a keyboard break on my07:21
OrngeTidei have some sparc stations and stuff. but they are too noisey to really play with.07:21
Surt*me07:21
AmaranthOrngeTide: Threaten to gun down your coworkers if they don't use an OSI approved license for Solaris. :)07:21
OrngeTidesurt, oh. i'm always breaking them.07:21
Surtlol07:21
Amaranthall my keyboards where broken by me07:21
Surtwell that is a different07:21
Surti break mice instead07:22
Amaranththe one i'm on now has a busted shift key because i broke one of the clips off when i took the keys off07:22
OrngeTidemy last keyboard got a whole bottle of water dumped into it at night by my cat. and it just sit there. it swelled up the particle board of my desk and corroded all the contacts on the keyboard.07:22
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RuffianSoldierDo I need a swap partition on a second HD?  I am going to triple boot Ubuntu on hda, and FC3 and Vector on hdb07:22
Surti have a crap load of cheap logitech mice07:22
OrngeTidei managed to fix every key except up arrow and right shift. ... so it went in the trash07:22
billytwowillyRuffianSoldier, one swap should be fine07:22
SurtRuffianSoldier, no07:22
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billytwowillyhmm07:23
OrngeTidelinux 2.6 swap do some smart mapping of sector addresses so swap partitions benchmarks the same as swap files (if the files are mostly contigious)07:23
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OrngeTideso if you mainly/only do 2.6 it wouldn't be a terrible thing to use a swapfile07:24
Surthow do i allow higher resolutions?07:24
Surtin the setup i just clicked through and can only get it up to 1024x76807:24
OrngeTidereally? yuck:(07:25
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Surtshould pay more attention in the install07:25
OrngeTidei need 1900x1024 :P07:25
Surti have a 19 inch monitor07:25
OrngeTideer.. 1920x108007:25
Surtso 1280x1024 does it for me07:25
htaccess_is there truly no way to have more than one item on the clipboard in gnome??07:25
OrngeTideHDTV :)07:26
OrngeTidehtaccess_, i wonder if those gnome clipboard items show up on xclipboard .. or if they are just special gnome/corba objects07:26
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: xclipboard07:27
OrngeTidei never understood why people would ignore all the thing X gives and reinvent a bunch of it. usually the reinvented stuff doesn't even work as well as X11 from 10 years ago07:27
htaccess_when i use wordpress (blog software) you highlight the word you want to create a link with and click the link button and try paste the url you had on the clipboard but now the highlighted word is the one on the clipboard, very annoying but at least in kde you can select the correct item in klipper07:27
OrngeTideLathiat, yea?07:28
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: ya07:28
OrngeTideclipboard and selection buffers in x11 are pretty confusing to users. but man is it powerful07:28
genahaha07:29
genhttp://www.smoothwall.org07:29
htaccess_hmm xclipboard seems to be here, but firefox items dont seem to be on it07:29
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) :q07:29
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) gah07:29
htaccess_i like to highlight and click with middle mouse button07:29
OrngeTidehtaccess_, not even firefox items? hrm. those should be in the selection buffer unless you explicitly told it cut/copy07:30
htaccess_no i just highlighted a url in the bar07:30
OrngeTide(xterm and xclipboard use the same calls, so if it works in xterm it should work in xclipboard)07:31
OrngeTidehtaccess_, yea. it's in the selection buffer then07:31
htaccess_hmm i can paste it in gnome term but if i run xclipboard its not there07:31
OrngeTidexclipboard has two modes.07:32
(lhb/#ubuntu) jdub: ?07:32
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OrngeTidehtaccess_, xcutsel will let you put a selection buffer into the clipboard. then you can see it in xclipboard07:33
htaccess_hmm looks like i should try http://gcm.sourceforge.net/07:33
OrngeTideselection buffers are only 1 level deep. but clipboard is stackable.07:33
OrngeTidehrm. that looks like what you need:)07:34
htaccess_OrngeTide: yea, i guess so, ideally i would just like an applet that just works like klipper on gnome07:34
OrngeTidei'm anti-gnome and anti-kde. :P07:34
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) step07:34
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) gah07:34
OrngeTidei'm a Xaw & motif person myself.07:35
OrngeTideopenlook was nice too. but it died. :(07:35
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visorhi everybody07:35
OrngeTideopenlook kicked openstep's butt. but sun flaked on it.07:35
htaccess_i used to run fluxbox but always end up using the distro default cause i cant be bothered installing and custommising each time i upgrade distros07:36
jdublhb: yes?07:36
OrngeTidesun has made tons of cool stuff that they later abandoned. it's sad really.07:36
(lhb/#ubuntu) jdub: hi, i saw in a mailing list that you know about multisync07:36
jdublhb: 'know' :)07:36
OrngeTidehtaccess_, yea. customizations can be annoying. i carry around about 30kb of .vimrc junk wherever I go. i'm thinking I could fit the source to a small text editor in 30kb and just carry that around instead. :P07:37
(lhb/#ubuntu) jdub: wondered if you have deb packages built from the latest cvs version somewhere?07:37
billytwowillywoot07:37
(lhb/#ubuntu) jdub: you know, the version that supports evolution 2 nowadays07:37
OrngeTidei like ion. it does want i want out of the box. but it's really just a what if 'screen' was your x wm. :P07:37
billytwowillyI'm making RAID baby!07:37
jdublhb: no07:38
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, alright!07:38
htaccess_hmm no gcm in debian packages :(07:38
jdublhb: there's a mail on ubuntu-devel that points to a repo with updated versions in it07:38
(lhb/#ubuntu) jdub: really, will have a look, thanks07:39
OrngeTidei made a 6Tb raid-0 at work for fun once. thank god xfs doesn't need to fsck07:39
OrngeTideyay. ubuntu is done installing. it even started making little sound effects.07:40
OrngeTidethis brown theme clashes with my ibook though. :P07:40
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visorOrngeTide: theres plenty of themes ported from macosx to gtk ;)07:41
visorOrngeTide: http://art.gnome.org and http://gnome-look.org ;)07:42
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visori was thinking on making some kind of blueish theme for gdm/splash so it matches the colors of my theme07:43
billytwowillyso will md0 be formatted with the reiserfs already on there or do I have to format it as well?07:43
OrngeTidevisor, i prefer solid black and white themes. the more it looks like MacOS System 7, the better.07:44
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TongMasteryeah!07:50
TongMasterfinally fixed it :)07:50
TongMasterww :)07:50
visorOrngeTide: uhmm you dont like child interfaces like osx then? :P07:50
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, md0 will look like an unitialized block device. so you can format it as whatever filesystem you want to use07:51
OrngeTidevisor, not really.07:51
visorOrngeTide: me neither, but yet, i like something pretty just not too "crystal"07:51
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OrngeTidei wish apple would get "back to the basics" of user interfaces and usability.07:51
billytwowillyOrngeTide, is there a gui type formatting thing for ubuntu?07:51
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OrngeTidebillytwowilly, type formatting?07:52
OrngeTideoh. disk thingy. hrm07:52
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OrngeTideno idea. i'd just do mkreiserfs /dev/md007:52
FartCloneqtparted07:52
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visorsmooth scooped its one of the best themes i ever seen so far07:52
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OrngeTidemy idea of gui is having one fullscreen xterm. so i'm not really a good person to ask about gui tools. :P07:53
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) heh same07:53
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) i dont like guis07:53
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) zsh/make/gdb/vim does me sweet07:53
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visortheres people who will need guis, ever07:53
billytwowillywill mkreiserfs /dev/md0 just format the entire partition as reiser?07:54
jdubbillytwowilly: yes07:54
OrngeTidecertain kinds of apps should be graphical. but i'm not really into having a bunch of weird desktop icons and buttons and things just to navigate to different apps. i'd rather cycle through them with a hot key or something. :P07:54
billytwowillyIt's 360 GB. Are there any options I should pass to maximize the benefit for large files? mostly videos and mp3s will be on there.07:54
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, yup. make sure you don't screw up and give it the wrong thing. or it will hose you good07:55
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, all file systems are really good at large files. it's small files that they have trouble with.07:55
billytwowillyOrngeTide, heh. Ok.07:55
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, when you mount i'd recommend mounting with notail on your reiser volumes.07:55
billytwowillyok. why? what does notail do?07:56
OrngeTideit wastes space, but it will make small file access and appends a lot faster07:56
OrngeTidethe default leads to suboptimial caching, so notail fixes that as well.07:57
billytwowillyok. is reiser4 stable enough to use yet?07:57
jdubbillytwowilly: no07:57
jdubbillytwowilly: neither is reiser3 :)07:58
OrngeTidei'd use it. but i always backup my data because i don't trust anything07:58
OrngeTideNTFS isn't stable enough to use either. :)07:58
billytwowillyhmm. does blocksize: 4096 mean that each block will be 4 mb?07:58
OrngeTidebillytwowilly, no. 4kB07:58
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cowbudany coaster debs?07:59
OrngeTidei wouldn't tweak the blocksize in reiser... the behavior isn't well tested.07:59
pastyhermitcan I install ubuntu over network off a floppy disk?07:59
visorcowdub: im affraid no07:59
billytwowillyhmm.07:59
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visori was looking for a burning application too, still cant find one08:00
visora decent one08:00
billytwowillyso when it says there are 87889440 blocks that would mean it thinks there are roughly 34 gb of space???08:00
visorfor gnome of course08:00
OrngeTidei think i'm going to uninstall all this gnome nonsense and see if ubuntu survives.08:00
visorthen you have to load all those deps for kde :S just for kde08:00
pastyhermitdudes?08:01
visorerr, for k3b08:02
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OrngeTidevisor, kde? no...08:02
jdubpastyhermit: floppy, no. netboot, yeah.08:02
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OrngeTideubuntu is neat and i'd highly recommend it. but i think i probably meant to install debian. since i didn't want a lot of this stuff.08:03
OrngeTidelike openoffice. what the heck is wrong with just using troff?08:03
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pastyhermitjdub: :(08:03
pastyhermitbleh08:03
pastyhermitperhaps I will put gentoo on my P233 :D08:03
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deadshellOrngeTide,  try thishttp://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/08:03
Adrenali can't install ffmpeg08:04
OrngeTidegentoo is great. until it gets confused :P08:04
pastyhermitthankx08:04
Adrenalsome dependency issues08:04
Adrenalbroken pipe08:04
OrngeTideoh and it's python based package mangement takes forever on my 1.7Ghz. i'm sure it will take forever++ on your P23308:04
OrngeTideand it takes about 30-40 hours to install gentoo on my 500mhz laptop. i'm guessing it will take 40-50 on your p233 :P08:05
OrngeTidedeadshell, thanks08:05
deadshellnp08:05
(KneelBeforeXorg/#ubuntu) gentoo users gain miniscule speed boosts by compiling their software with hand-tuned compiler flags, which they then throw away by waiting seven hours for an emerge08:05
deadshellgentoo is a test to see how long they can keep you at your comp before you throw it thru the window08:06
OrngeTidei never did that. i just liked to compile packages that were released only hours ago. debian likes to test stuff before they put it in. i'd rather test it myself than wait. :)08:06
Adrenalanyone got anymore tools i can use to convert .wmv to .mov08:07
Adrenalprefably an installer, not synaptic08:07
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wartyuserHey08:08
deadshellHey08:08
mirakhi08:08
wartyuserWhat does warty actually have besides open office that makes it such a big file08:08
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mirakanyone have problems with sane ?08:08
wartyuserI am using it now and it seems to have less than KNoppixe08:08
wartyuser*knoppix08:08
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mirakmy tv card is detected as the capture device instead of the scanner08:09
deadshellwartyuser, try mepis :)08:09
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jdubwartyuser: file?08:09
vincentSane only works if you are root.08:09
jdubwartyuser: the cd, or...?08:09
mirakwartyuser: knoppix is just a lice cd, not a real distibution08:09
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wartyuserYeah for the holidays I am getting MEpis, Linspire, FC2, and some others all on cd for 30 bucks 26 cds in all from easylinuxcds.com it is a pretrty good deal08:10
jdubwartyuser: the live cd also includes a bunch of windows free software apps.08:10
deadshellcable modem i got em for free08:10
wartyuseroh okay thanks jdub08:10
deadshello_008:10
wartyuserI Will cehck it out in windows08:10
jdubwartyuser: they'll disappear as we fill the cd with more stuff on the live side08:10
wartyuser*chec08:10
wartyuseroKAY08:10
mirakvincent: it doesn't work either08:11
mirakI can't choose my scanner08:11
miraksane default to tv card08:11
vincentmirak: is it a scsi scanner ? I had to do "modprobe sg" to detect it08:11
mirakscsi yes08:11
wartyuserAnyways I Have ordered 15 ubuntu cds to give to friends of mien and for them to give to their friends so when I Receive those I WIll explore Warty more than I am now whichI am using a cd I burned cya08:12
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OrngeTidehrm. debian/sarge looks to be 14 isos ...08:13
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mirakvincent: do a normal pv08:13
wartyuserOh one more q08:13
wartyuserCan I run UBUntu from the ramdisk?08:13
wartyuserI have 512mb of memory08:14
mirakvincent: it doesn't work08:14
wartyuserIll be back to see the answers in a minute08:14
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) wartyuser: no08:14
vincentmirak : first tiem I use IRC, tried to chat with you but doesn't seem to work... :-/08:14
mirakdo opean dialog08:14
mirakot talk here08:15
vincentWell lets talk here then.  Open terminal as root, and type "modprobe sg", what does it say ?08:15
jdubOrngeTide: only one of which you need to install it.08:16
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mirakis says nothing08:16
OrngeTidejdub, yea. i see the netboot and minimal installs now too.08:16
vincentTHat's ok don't worry. Now do "ls /ded/sg*" what does it say ?08:16
OrngeTidehrm. great. i just locked it up08:17
mirakvincent: it's ok it works as root08:17
massis there a way I can get a newer version of subversion on ubuntu? if I build packages, is there a way for me to share them?08:17
vincentmirak: you mean xsane found it, and asked you to chose between your TV card and Scanner ?08:18
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mirakyes08:19
mirakbut not as a user08:19
vincentYes I know, it's a Ubuntu bug. I think I saw a worfkaround on  www.ubuntuforums.org, but can't remember what it is. Just search the forum you will find it08:20
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billytwowillywhere would I find the mkdev.sh script?08:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) do you meane MAKEDEV?08:36
billytwowillyI'm trying to setup lm-sensors. when I run sensors-detect it says "no i2c device files found. use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them."08:37
(bob2/#ubuntu) you should just need to load the i2c modules08:37
billytwowillywould MAKEDEV do that?08:37
(bob2/#ubuntu) then udev will make the device nodes08:37
billytwowillyI modprobed the one I thought I needed for my nforce2 board08:37
billytwowillyi2c_nforce2 is there08:38
billytwowillystill no sensors found and I get that message when I run sensors-detect08:39
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billytwowillycan I run udev?08:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) udev is already running08:39
billytwowillyany ideas why sensors-detect isn't working or how to fix it?08:40
billytwowillysensors-detect08:40
billytwowillyargh. sorry08:40
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(bob2/#ubuntu) ask on the user list I guess, loading the module should make the /dev nodes magically08:40
(bob2/#ubuntu) maybe you loaded the wrong module08:40
(bob2/#ubuntu) tho you'd get told that by modprobe08:40
billytwowillywhat should the dev nodes look like?08:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) /dev/i2c I guess08:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) you could find out by reading the sensors-detect script08:41
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billytwowillysensors-detect is for figuring out what modules to probe though.08:44
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(bob2/#ubuntu) ok08:44
billytwowillyso i've modprobed the right one now but sensors doesn't find it..08:45
billytwowillyThat's the real problem08:45
(bob2/#ubuntu) does dmesg show it's the right one?08:45
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billytwowillylspci -v shows that it is the right one according to the docs on the sensor08:46
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(bob2/#ubuntu) dmesg is the important thing08:46
billytwowillydmesg shows08:47
billytwowillyi2c-adapter i2c-o: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x50008:47
billytwowillyand the same thing again but with i2c-1: and 0x510008:47
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Shadow2windows has overwritten the mbr on my ubuntu install, is there a way to get grub back without losing the current ubuntu install?08:57
bigbrother0074what app can i use to play a .m4a audio file?08:58
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: mplayer, totem should do it08:58
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) mplayer plays my video .m4as08:58
bigbrother0074Lathiat, they don't seem to want to play them08:58
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) Shadow2: oh wait08:58
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: sorry you mean ALAC apple stuff?08:58
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) Shadow2: sorry not you08:58
bigbrother0074Lathiat, i don't know....a friend gave me a soundtrack in that format08:59
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: yeh its probabky apple, you cant play it, its a closed codec with patent restrictions and no ones written a decoder08:59
bigbrother0074damn08:59
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) you could play it in itunes for windows but that doesnt help :)09:00
mexpHi there.. Where do I disable ntp sync at boot time? It fails anyway, as the PPPoE is initiated only later?09:00
bigbrother0074Lathiat, no, http://www.m4a.com says it's just mpeg 4 audio file --- the nu .mp309:00
(GammaRay/#ubuntu) Shadow2: you need to boot w/ a rescue disk and reinstall grub09:00
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: yes but the only things i am aware of that use m4a atm is apple encoded stuff, and you wont be able to play that09:01
bigbrother0074oh09:01
bigbrother0074well shit09:01
(GammaRay/#ubuntu) Shadow2: try booting w/ the install cd.. you can press escape to see a menu of options09:01
(GammaRay/#ubuntu) Shadow2: I'm not really sure if there is one included.. and I'm not sure how to install grub09:02
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: if you like you can go convince them to release the specs to the gstreamer team so someone can write a decoder :)09:02
bigbrother0074Lathiat, wouldn't that be nice of em09:02
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) bigbrother0074: it would, but good luck :P09:02
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atu13439hey guys i aborted the ubuntu linux installation on my x86 machine after choosing language and country settings now I cant even boot onto WinXP??? Any suggestions09:07
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) atu13439: Define can't boot into WinXP09:08
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) atu13439: What come up / what error / where do you get up to / etc09:08
atu13439thanks for the reply...error I get is please insert valid system disk09:09
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) do you have a floppy in your floppy drive09:09
atu13439no, no floppy09:09
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) and no cd?09:09
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) ok what you need is some kind of windows bootdisk or CD09:09
atu13439no cd as well...09:09
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) and to run fdisk /mbr09:09
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) the windows xp recovery console has a similar tool called 'fixmbr'09:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) you can run that off booting the cd09:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) [of winxp] 09:10
atu13439ok so boot from winxp cd and then type in fdisk /mbr09:10
(GammaRay/#ubuntu) hmm it's a bit disturbing that it would overwrite the MBR before you even partition09:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) no09:10
atu13439yeah thats the weird part09:10
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) GammaRay: it shouldnt have, not sure what happened there09:11
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) Amaranth: run 'fixmbr' in the windwos xp recovery console09:11
atu13439so how do i get to the command prompt on the win xp cd to type in "fdisk /mbr"09:11
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) atu13439: when you start the install09:11
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) it has an option to open the recovery console09:11
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) when it notices you already ahve a windows install09:11
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billytwowillycan anyone recommend a good blogging software?09:12
atu13439ohhh ok....hey thanks a lot man...im gonna go try it out and I am new to ubuntu and linux and I heard something about kde not being available?09:12
atu13439in ubuntu09:12
smoavailable, yes .. just not supported / installed by default09:13
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) atu13439: you can install it after install, but its not supported09:13
(GammaRay/#ubuntu) atu13439: if I were you.. I'd backup your data before doing anything else09:13
atu13439alright....thanks a lot for all your help again...i really appreciate it...09:14
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) nps atu1343909:14
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wood1Can anyone help me solve the problem of:  modprobe: Fatal Error : hotplug ...... ?09:46
wood1While my PC boots09:46
wood1Anybody there ?09:46
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: about pciehp or something?09:47
agwibowohello..09:47
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(Treenaks/#ubuntu) 2 messages? they're not important, you can ignore them09:47
wood1Yes09:47
agwibowodoes anyone know any program to display picture as wallpaper in X (as for fvwm2) in ubuntu..09:47
agwibowoxsetbg, xv, wmsetbg are not available in ubuntu09:47
agwibowoi don't know any other program to display picture in ubuntu09:47
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) agwibowo: well, you can just right-click the desktop and then click 'Change desktop background'09:47
agwibowonot gnome09:48
agwibowoi'm using fvwm209:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) agwibowo: you can install wmsetbg or xli or xloadimage09:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) or imagemagick09:48
agwibowooh09:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) all those can do that09:48
wood1By the way, I have installed the XFCE4 Window Manager. However I don't get the application menus while right clicking on an empty desktop09:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: the desktop is separate from the window manager09:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: xfce is a complete desktop environment, like gnome is09:48
wood1I get the App menu at the first right click of my mouse09:48
wood1After that I get the same menu as in GNOME Desktop09:49
wood1What I mean to say is that I want to access all the applications while right-clicking on the XFCE desktop09:50
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: read xfce documentation, I don't know09:50
wood1Ok , thanks09:50
(crimsun/#ubuntu) wood1: you need the package xfdesktop4 installed, too09:51
agwibowoi reckon fvwm2 is better than xfce09:51
agwibowosimpler, faster09:51
(crimsun/#ubuntu) wood1: and if you're upgrading from a previous version of xfce4, it's a good idea to mv ~/.xfce4 ~/.xfce4_old09:52
wood1By the way, how do I use Gaim to connect to MSN Messenger, I get connected for about 3 seconds and suddenly get disconnected.09:52
wood1OK crimsun, thanks09:52
wood1for the tips09:52
(crimsun/#ubuntu) wood1: make sure you're using the latest version of gaim, 1.0.309:52
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agwibowohow to use imagemagick to display the wallpaper???09:53
agwibowowhat's the command??09:53
agwibowoimagemagic doesn't seem to exist when i type in command line09:53
carsoncagwibowo: display filename.jpg09:53
OrngeTideman. i'm totally not cut out for debian or ubuntu :(09:54
(crimsun/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: why's that?09:54
agwibowooh09:54
wood1How do I upgrade from Gaim v1.0.0 to Gaim v1.0.3 ?09:54
agwibowoi'll be back...09:54
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carsoncwood1:  Well, you could go to http://gaim.sf.net and download and install from source09:54
carsoncbut why do you want to install 1.0.3?  The security stuff gets backported, if I'm not mistaken09:55
OrngeTidecrimsun, well i don't want gnome. at all. but i want gdm09:55
(crimsun/#ubuntu) it's not a security issue but a msn issue that was corrected in versions newer than 1.0.0, carsonc.09:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) still, use the package09:55
carsoncAh, I see!  I don't use MSN, so I never pay attention to it. :)09:56
(crimsun/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: so use gdm without using gnome. I do that on a couple ubuntu machines.09:56
wood1Do I have to remove the Older version of Gaim and then install the latest version of Gaim ?09:56
OrngeTidecrimsun, it won't let me. it goes and installs gnome control center and all that garbage09:56
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(crimsun/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: that's because the binary package was built with those Depends. Just don't use gnome.09:57
agwibowowell...09:57
agwibowohow to display the image as the background?09:57
OrngeTideyea. that's not want I want.09:57
agwibowoit will open a window09:57
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agwibowousing the command "display"09:58
agwibowo"display <filename>" will open a window displaying the picture file..09:58
(crimsun/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: I'm not entirely positive one can have a functional gdm without at least _some_ gnome libs.09:58
agwibowoi want it to be the background of my fvwm209:58
OrngeTidecrimsun, oh i'm entirely positive. i do it all the time on slackware and gentoo09:58
OrngeTidecrimsun, i'll just see if debian has Login.App and i'll use that instead09:59
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(crimsun/#ubuntu) OrngeTide: well, if you want to be pedantic, check ldd `which gdm`09:59
agwibowoalso, it seems that the programs running in fvwm2 does not have the same font size compared to when i run it in gnome... how to set the font size to be the same? (i want the font to be smaller). The font i'm talking here is the windows fonts.... like "File Edit .. bla bla bla"09:59
jdubagwibowo: run gnome-settings-daemon09:59
OrngeTidelooks like login.app will do it for me.09:59
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(crimsun/#ubuntu) I see mostly X Windows and Gtk/Glib/Pango deps, anyhow.10:00
OrngeTideldd `which gdm` | grep gnome  .. nothing. :)10:00
agwibowojdub: gnome?? but i'm going to run fvwm210:01
jdubOrngeTide: that's perfectly understandable.10:01
wood1What is the command for removing Gaim v1.0.0 ?10:01
agwibowojdub: the problem i'm having is the fonts for window widget in fvwm2 are too big10:01
jdubagwibowo: just run gnome-settings-daemon.10:01
OrngeTideyea. debian's requirement for a lot of the gnome stuff is somewhat artificial. i think because it can be configured from gnome control center (some xml files it has I guess)10:01
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agwibowoooooo10:02
agwibowogood!10:02
agwibowothx!10:02
jdubOrngeTide: no, there are no libs with the string 'gnome' in them that gdm depends on.10:02
agwibowowhere should i include thi sfile?10:02
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agwibowoin .bashrc???10:02
agwibowonot good...10:02
agwibowoany idea?10:02
jdubagwibowo: in .xinitrc or .xsession or your fvwm somethingorother10:02
agwibowoic.10:02
OrngeTidejdub, that's what I just said in shellese10:02
wood1As you know, my system is quite slow, which Window Manager is best for me? Fluxbox or fvwm2 or xfce ?10:03
jdubOrngeTide: yes, that is the case everywhere10:03
agwibowoi don't have .xsession in my home directory... where can i get it from?10:03
(crimsun/#ubuntu) wood1: whichever you feel most comfortable with.10:03
agwibowowoodl: fvwm2 i guess10:03
jdubagwibowo: you don't. use whatever your xsession is starting with.10:03
OrngeTidejdub, so?10:03
agwibowojdub: how do i know???10:03
OrngeTidethat fact doesn't help me though.10:03
jdubOrngeTide: there are no additional dependencies for gdm on debian or ubuntu.10:04
jdubagwibowo: you set it up :)10:04
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agwibowojdub: errr...  a little more information would help..10:04
jdubagwibowo: i don't know - you set your system up, you should konw :)10:04
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agwibowowhat's the default in ubuntu???10:05
wood1To install fvwm2, will: apt-get install fvwm2 do the trick ?10:05
jdubagwibowo: the default doesn't involve fvwm.10:05
agwibowowoodl: why don't u just use synaptic?? it will help you better....10:05
OrngeTidei'll just go back to ubuntu. straight debian didn't really get me anything. all the things i want are going to pull in a lot of the same stuff ubuntu installs by default. oh well.10:05
agwibowojdub: ic... hmm.. how do i make it so that when i enter fvwm2, the system will look at ~/.xsession ?10:06
jdubagwibowo: it won't - use fvwm's configuration for startup programs10:07
OrngeTidei'll just take the path of least resistence and use ubuntu, rather than dedicate my life to installing everything exactly the way I want. btw. thanks for your help everyone.10:07
Skifagwibowo: ln -sf ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession (or vice versa)10:07
agwibowoi know....10:07
agwibowoit's .fvwm2rc10:07
agwibowobut the system at my uni also look at ~/.xsession10:07
wood1I see only fvwm1 in Synaptic, there is no fvwm210:07
agwibowoSkif: i don't have ~/.xinitrc either10:07
Skifagwibowo, well, .fvwm2rc, or whatever.10:08
wood1how do I install fvwm2 ???10:08
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jdubwhy on earth are you wanting/using fvwm?10:08
Rene_Ssucker for punishment ?10:09
Skiffvwm is not exactly teh suck, but it is definitely more suck than is required by law.10:09
agwibowoSkif: i found fvwm is very good for development environment.10:10
Skifagwibowo: I generally find perl and ruby to make a good development environment10:10
agwibowoalso, i think woodl mentioned that his system does not have big resources.. so fvwm is suitable.10:10
agwibowoisn't perl a language?10:10
Skifagwibowo: exactly10:10
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(Treenaks/#ubuntu) Skif: ex ;)10:12
SkifTreenaks: technically, 'ed' is the standard editor10:12
Skifex is heresy :)10:12
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(Treenaks/#ubuntu) Skif: I just re-type my entire file with cat.. every time..10:12
Skifanyway, this is not terribly ubuntu-specific, and it's getting rather silly to boot, so I shall stop now10:12
Skifcat! luxury! in my day we had to dd from the tty device, and we liked it!10:13
Skif(okay, now I'm REALLY done, sorry)10:13
agwibowoif i include gnome-settings-daemon in .xsession or .xinitrc.. or whatever, wouldn't it get executed each time i exit & enter fvwm2 again???10:13
agwibowoalso.. can anyone tell me how to use "display" program to set the wallpaper in fvwm210:14
wood1By the way, how do I see the services running on my system in graphical view.10:15
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wood1There used to be a tool in Applications>System Tools>Services10:16
wood1If I remember correctly10:16
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Kobaltgood morning ladies :)10:17
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agwibowoSkif: thx10:18
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wood1By the way, I don't see the colors which indicates which are directories and files in my bash shell using the command: ls -l10:20
(crimsun/#ubuntu) -F10:20
(crimsun/#ubuntu) --color10:20
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Kobaltlittle problem with mounting sambashares, anyone there who can help ?10:21
wood1It used to show directories in Blue, Executable files in Green10:21
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Agrajagls --color=auto10:21
Kobaltmount -t smbfs -o username=bot,password=xxxxx //10.2.1.2/all /mnt10:22
Kobaltmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //10.2.1.2/all,10:22
Kobalt       or too many mounted file systems10:22
Kobaltthats waht i get if i try to mount a samba or win share10:22
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Kobalthave another deb box here there it works fine ...10:22
Kobaltwhat i do wrong ... ?10:23
wood1Agrajag, thanks for the tip10:24
Kobaltno idea here ? :(10:26
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Kobaltok then not10:34
Kobaltbye10:34
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billytwowillyanyone around with experience with lvm?10:37
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billytwowillyI have /dev/hda4 and /dev/hdc2 that I want to lvm together. how would I do that?10:39
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) billytwowilly: read the LVM howto10:41
billytwowillyTreenaks, I am. It's too long and complicated10:41
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) billytwowilly: well, then don't use lvm..10:41
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billytwowillyIt looks like I'd do a vgcreat whateveriwanttocallit /dev/hda4 /dev/hdc210:42
billytwowillyBut I don't know.10:42
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billytwowillyTreenaks, No, that is a failure of the documentation. There should be a simple example section10:42
billytwowillyin the examples they do have it menitons pvcreate on the whole disk, but that will destroy the partitions already on the disk according to the documentation10:43
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) billytwowilly: there are no partitions on /dev/hda4.. only on /dev/hda10:44
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) so use pvcreate on a separate partition :)10:44
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(bob2/#ubuntu) oDie`: can you turn that off please?10:45
billytwowillyok. so I'd go pvcreate /dev/hda4 and pvcreate /dev/hdc2 and then vgcreate /dev/hda4 /dev/hdc2 then lvcreate -L1G -n mylvm then reiserfs /dev/mylvm ?10:46
oDie`yes, sure ;)10:46
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xukunbob2, do you anything about freenx not working on ubuntu?10:46
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xukunbob2, do you know anything about freenx not working on ubuntu?10:46
Chib1freenx works fine D:10:46
(bob2/#ubuntu) oDie`afk: thanks!10:47
xukunChib1, maybe so want you are using ubuntu on both server and the client, but if you are using other os non than ubuntu it will not work10:48
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wood1by the way, what exactly does LVM do ?10:48
wood1Is it very useful ?10:48
(bob2/#ubuntu) xukun: no, sorry10:48
wood1Or can I just remove it10:48
billytwowillywood1, if you have more than 2-3 disks it can be usefull10:48
billytwowillyerr useful10:48
billytwowillyit can be used to join drives together10:49
wood1Well I only have 1 hard drive10:49
Chib1Are you trying to log into another SERVER from ubuntu, or trying to login to ubuntu from another OS?10:49
wood1Can I remove LVM from my system which has only 1 hard drive ?10:49
billytwowillyubuntu adds people to the users group right?10:50
xukunChib1, to the ubutnu server, I tryied from winxp machine and other non ubuntu linux machine, I both get the same result10:50
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Chib1Do they have an equivilent version of the client? :/10:51
xukunbob2, np thanks10:51
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xukunChib1, ?10:51
xukunwhat do you mean by that?10:52
wood1By the way, how do I login to my Ubuntu from other PCs in my network ?10:52
Chib1Perhaps the client version you're trying to connect with matters.10:52
xukunChib1, the version of nx is the same if that is what you mean10:53
xukunChib1, http://drcwww.uvt.nl/~ahassan/remote_nxserver_screenshot.png10:53
(bob2/#ubuntu) billytwowilly: no10:53
(bob2/#ubuntu) billytwowilly: also, be careful with lvm...if one of those disks die, you lose *all* your data10:53
wood1How do I open the FTP port of my Ubuntu system ?10:54
Chib1Eww! KDE ::hides::10:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: "open"? ubuntu has no firewall by default.10:54
xukunthat shoudnt mater10:54
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bob2: I think he means installing an ftp daemon10:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: note that if you're using some sort of consumer dsl or cable router, you will not be able to serve ftp to outside users10:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) (easily)10:55
grelli"easily"10:55
wood1I can't Telnet and Ftp to my Ubuntu from other PCs10:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: did you install a ftp server?10:55
grellithe ease is determined by the level of insanity of the router10:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: also, don't use telnet. install openssh-server on your ubuntu machine and ssh in.10:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: and you want to ssh, not telnet10:55
wood1Well we have a very high speed internet connection10:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) grelli: forwarding ftp is really hard10:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: but you need to install an ssh server for that10:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) into NAT, I mean10:56
grellibob2 I know10:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) if you have an actual subnet, it's easy10:56
wood1But I want to access it from my Network10:56
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paoHi all :-)10:56
ajmitch_xukun: you should not need ubuntu for both client & server at all10:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: did you install a ftp server?10:56
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grelliI've done it, into a non-routable NAT10:56
grelliit's madness10:56
paohow do I set the defaul mail client in gnome?10:56
wood1Bob2, how do I know if ftp server is installed on my PC ?10:56
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(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: if you didn't install one, you don't have one10:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) vsftpd is good for anonymous use10:57
xukunajmitch_, ubuntu is the server10:57
ajmitch_xukun: and you should be able to use nx from linux or windows to connect to it10:57
wood1Well what is the difference between Ftp, Telnet and OpenSsh ?10:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: ftp and telnet are old, broken and insecure10:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) ssh is a secure replacement for telnet, and sftp ccan be a secure replacement for ftp10:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) it might be easier if you just told us what your goal is10:58
xukunit would realy be nice to know if somebody else would connect usbuntu nxserver from other non ubuntu system10:58
wood1How do I install or configure my PC to be a SSH Server ?10:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: install openssh-server on your ubuntu machine and ssh in.10:58
grellixukun you can10:59
ajmitch_xukun: it's more of a firewall/configuration issue - I've only used nx to connect to my debian sid desktop so far :)10:59
wood1You mean just: ssh 10.10.10.x10:59
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: once you have installed the ssh server, yes10:59
xukunajmitch_, it does not connect, see the screenshot, that is how far I come. All I get is a dark desktop without any icons10:59
wood1And don't I have to select a port from the remote machine while ssh11:00
(bob2/#ubuntu) well, you can, but it defaults to 2211:00
xukunajmitch_, is has nothing to do with firewalling, I can connect other linux nxserver from every where in same network11:00
ajmitch_iirc the client specifies what is started on the server11:01
wood1Well ssh client is installed by default on any Ubuntu Systems right ?11:01
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: client is, server is not11:01
xukunajmitch_, did you tryied the other way around?11:01
ajmitch_xukun: nope, I don't have a useful working ubuntu install right now11:01
wood1So I just have to installed OpenSSH on the main machine ?11:01
ajmitch_since the kernel seems to have usb issues :)11:02
wood1I mean install "OpenSSH Server" on the main PC11:02
xukunajmitch_, that is the problem I,m having11:02
wood1apt-get install openssh-sever11:02
wood1Will that command install OpenSSH Server ?11:03
ajmitch_xukun: if you ssh into the server, do you see gnome processes running?11:03
xukunajmitch_, yes, I can even x forward11:04
ajmitch_I mean when you use nx11:05
ajmitch_connect, and then connect with ssh & check if the processes are started11:05
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wood1Ok I have installed the openssh-server. How do I configure it ?11:06
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: it's configured by default11:06
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: if you want to tune it, look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config11:06
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: but it works by defautl11:06
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) default, too11:06
xukunajmitch_, how do that I dont get it?11:06
ajmitch_xukun: ssh, use 'ps ax' or similar to get a process list11:07
wood1I can't login from my Other PC to my OpenSSH Server11:07
wood1It says that the password is incorrect11:08
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: you can't login as root. login as yourself.11:08
xukunajmitch_, I,m not home now, I try when I get home11:09
wood1I just did:   ssh ip_address11:10
ajmitch_xukun: alright11:10
wood1It says public key is incorrect11:10
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: is your username on both machines the same?11:10
xukunajmitch_, thanks11:10
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(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: ah, did you have another install on that IP?11:10
wood1It also does not ask for a Username, just the password11:10
ajmitch_xukun: although I must say that nx works great even on a 128kbps line, from aus->NZ :)11:10
(bob2/#ubuntu) wood1: are they the same or not?11:11
xukunajmitch_, its realy cool application11:11
skyriderHey guys! I have a small problem - DRI is not working in my Ubuntu install. :( I see this when I run glxinfo, mplayer (with xv output) eats lots of CPU etc.11:11
ajmitch_yep11:11
skyriderAny ideas?11:11
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skyriderI use 'savage' driver (I have stupid integrated Savage 4 video chipset)11:12
danielsskyrider: i'm so sorry11:13
danielsif you put your XFree86.0.log up somewhere, I can have a look at it, but yeah11:13
danielssavage is terminal11:13
skyriderdaniels: it worked great on Woody11:14
skyriderI'm not at home now :(11:14
wood1Well I have installed OpenSSH Server on this PC11:14
danielsskyrider: well, send me your log (daniel.stone@canonical.com) and I'll see what I can do11:14
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: did a machine with the IP of your machine have ssh before, and did you ssh to it?11:15
wood1I am trying to connect to it from another PC running Gentoo Linux11:15
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: if you did, remove the old key from ~/.ssh/known_hosts on the machine you're trying to ssh FROM11:15
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wood1Well it has11:15
skyriderdaniels: when I'll be at home I will send you that log. BTW I already looked at it and doen't found anything suspicious. Maybe you will. Thanks!11:15
wood1My company uses SSH for it's daily work11:16
wood1Treenaks, can I just use: ssh -username - ipadress11:16
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: Listen!11:16
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(Treenaks/#ubuntu) Read the message ssh gives you11:17
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) it says something about known_hosts, right?11:17
wood1Permission denied (publickey, keyboard-interactive)11:18
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: is that all?11:18
danielsskyrider: no worries :)11:18
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: and you can try ssh -l username ip11:18
wood1After typing the password 3 times11:19
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) wood1: what does /var/log/auth.log say11:19
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wood1Treenaks, it worked, thank you very much11:22
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bungleheya can anyone help me to get this ibook to print on a lan... it can see the printer in samba & it can print when the printer is plugged in to it11:27
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bungle: ibook running ubuntu?11:27
bunglenah osx 10.211:27
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) don't know then :)11:27
ajmitch_evening bungle11:28
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bunglelol11:28
bunglehiya ajmitch_11:28
bunglelong time no c11:28
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bungleI saw ya sign in the other day11:28
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bungle: it's an 'i' stupid!11:29
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bungle: (sorry, I'll stop quoting Red vs Blue)11:29
bungletah ..thats really helpful11:29
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bungle:P11:29
ajmitch_bungle: just the other day? I'm on there all the time :)11:30
bunglelol I musta joined a channel with you in it11:32
bungleon set-top i mean'11:32
ajmitch_probably11:33
wood1Well11:33
wood1SSH is working now from the remote machine11:33
ajmitch_about time for me to go, I've got to get up before 6 :)11:33
bunglecan you make my ibook print11:33
bunglegod dammit it11:33
ajmitch_nah11:33
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bungle: uh..11:33
ajmitch_I haven't used osx much :)11:33
bunglelol since I had olivia she wakes up at 3am11:33
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) bungle: isn't that a question you should ask Apple?11:34
bungleajmitch is apple enough11:34
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bunglesorry dude11:35
bunglelol11:35
ajmitch_dunno, have fun with it11:35
ajmitch_btw I'm in melbourne at the moment :)11:35
bungleyeah kira tried to use it as a seat11:35
bunglereally11:36
bunglehow ya liken it11:36
ajmitch_not bad11:36
bunglei come from melbourne11:36
bunglenow in nsw11:36
ajmitch_alright11:36
ajmitch_anyway, I've got to go11:36
ajmitch_talk to you some other time11:36
bungleok ok11:36
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Rene_Scrap, ever since I installed Ubuntu i cant get any sleep anymore11:36
bunglenight ngith11:36
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wood1Ok everybody, bye11:38
wood1see you all later11:38
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YokoZarWhere's the howto for getting mp3s working in the music player?11:41
deFryskapt-get install gstreamer-mad11:42
deFryski think11:42
deFryskor install xmms and stuff11:42
(bob2/#ubuntu) gstreamer0.8-mad11:42
YokoZarthanks11:43
deFryskgstreamer-plugins meta pack is easyest way to get them all11:43
YokoZarThat's not by default because of IP reasons right?11:44
YokoZarOr am I wrong on that?11:44
(bob2/#ubuntu) because Fraunhoffer claims to own patents on mp311:44
(bob2/#ubuntu) and actually enforces them11:44
YokoZarHmm...thanks.11:46
deFryskogg rules anyway11:47
YokoZarTrue.  But I can't pirate oggs as easily.11:48
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) YokoZar: you can't?11:48
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YokoZarMaybe I'm hanging with the wrong crew...11:48
danielsYokoZar: that's tragic11:48
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deFryskthat small eh ?11:53
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emitraxprobablu one of the FAQ, but what's the root password of the live cd?!11:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) emitrax: there is no root password.11:55
emitraxI11:55
emitraxhmmm11:55
emitraxI tried the su command11:55
emitraxand it asked me for a passwd11:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) yes11:55
bunglesudo11:55
birmeemitrax: use sudo with your user-password11:55
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) ubuntu uses sudo11:55
(cef/#ubuntu) emitrax: use sudo for all root-like access, and the password it asks for is your password11:55
emitraxwhy is that?11:56
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:57
birmeemitrax: you have a very good motivation written in the FAQ :)11:57
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emitraxsorry guys, but I just found out about this distro and I m trying it out as fast as I can :D11:58
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(lhb/#ubuntu) emitrax: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HowTo11:59
(lhb/#ubuntu) emitrax: theres about everything you might need to know12:00
(lhb/#ubuntu) emitrax: http://kitech.com.my/ubuntu/4.10/index.html12:02
bunglehttp://dc.deadatthewheel.net/various/ohshi.swf12:02
bungleomg dont look at that12:02
bungleit's bad for  ya eyes12:02
rjekA bungle.12:03
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bunglewhich bungle would that be12:03
(bob2/#ubuntu) Mr Bungle?12:04
bunglenope12:05
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rjekA UK-based bungle who uses EH.12:07
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bunglenope I am australian bungle12:13
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bunglewith 2 kidlets12:13
nevynhrm12:13
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(cef/#ubuntu) quiet01:29
danielsboo01:29
Gmailwow01:29
(cef/#ubuntu) is it just me, or is #debian really fubared?01:30
Gmailno talk for 16min01:30
danielscef: as in, more than usual?01:30
umanirc is like that01:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's always been fubared01:30
(cef/#ubuntu) Channel #debian modes: +tncPLlfJ01:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) what's wrong with that?01:31
Gmailcef: that channel ban if you don't make sence the first 10times you ask your question01:31
danielsGmail: asking ten times?!?01:31
(cef/#ubuntu) good q.. but nothing at all going on on #debian on my end01:31
umansheesh they're patient01:31
danielscef: worksforme01:31
(bob2/#ubuntu) cef: you're not in there at all afaict01:31
(cef/#ubuntu) hrm.. dead here.. might server recycle01:31
Gmaildaniels: i reword the same question like ten times bob2 got pissed off01:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) I got pissed off ebcause you got abusive01:32
Gmailand used his evil powers01:32
danielsdudes, offtopic01:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) yeah, true01:32
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(cef/#ubuntu) ahh damn client got confused01:32
Gmailbob2: my question was valid and was a problem but only made sence in my brain01:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) off-topic01:33
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umanwell, the forums are down01:34
umanwhen will they be up again ?01:34
(bob2/#ubuntu) ask the guy who runs them01:35
scoonuman: they are, I was just in and even replied a post.01:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) the domain is broken tho, at least01:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) rob@blerg> host ubuntuforums.org01:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) Host ubuntuforums.org not found: 2(SERVFAIL)01:35
plasmoyeah its updating its dns01:36
umanjust stiking to the topic, so can we talk something else now ?01:36
plasmoi can go to the forums tho :P01:36
scoonbob2: works now, wierd.01:37
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trukulohi01:38
Gmailubuntuforums.org.       1800    IN      A       66.246.118.21001:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) ;ubuntuforums.org. IN NS01:40
Gmail--- ubuntuforums.org ping statistics ---01:40
Gmail1 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 0ms01:40
umanhow come it takes so long to be fixed ?01:41
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danielsGmail: take it easy01:41
plasmodepends on your dns server :/01:42
scoonsounds like someone needs to pay the internet bill on time.......01:42
(bob2/#ubuntu) plasmo: yeah01:42
plasmomine works fine :-)01:42
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(bob2/#ubuntu) problem seems to be that their NS records don't resolve anymore01:44
Gmaildaniels: it was my /slap script i never saw wha it said but WOOOOW01:49
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danielsGmail: stop using the /slap script, please.01:49
Gmailok01:49
calcheh01:49
nevynhrm01:51
(Lathiat/#ubuntu) hey nevyn :)01:52
usual|tvshit I'm late01:54
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Tsjoklatheya pitti02:07
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pittiTsjoklat: hi02:08
Tsjoklat:)02:08
cenerentolaciao02:09
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kentshould there be anything in /etc/network/ifstate or do the script write things there when they are running? i have things there (lo=lo, eth0=eth0) but my brother dont have anything there, and he always gets a failure while running /etc/init.d/network start :(02:15
(aj/#ubuntu) when ifup successfuly brings an interface up, it'll write lo=lo and similar, when it takes them down, it'll remove themn02:16
kentaj, do you know the syntax for bringing up lo and eth0 (with static IP) with ifconfig? we cant get the scripts to work, and realy need his eth0 to work so that he can copy an iso over to another computer.02:18
umanifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up02:18
umanifconfig eth0 IP up02:18
kentuman, thanks.02:19
umanthat is if it "sees" eth002:19
kentuman, it does. he has the module loaded.02:19
umannext thing will be to use samba, NFS or FTP or such for transferring the files02:19
umanbedtime for lil umans02:21
umanseeyerlaters02:21
(aj/#ubuntu) kent: ifup -v -n eth0 # will tell you the commands ifcup's trying to run, fwiw02:24
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kentSo, now we got the network working. Now he wants to use samba (computer->network in gnome) to copy a file from another windows computer that have files shared. But it complaines about not having rights. Whats wrong? He shared that file like always, it should work, should it not? :(02:31
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kentthe share comes up in gnome, it just complaines about rights.. :(02:33
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riddleyI recently installed Ubuntu's AMD64 port and now I find that I'm unable to access windows XP via grub. I've been researching it this morning and the only suggestion I can find is to change the addressing style for my HD to LBA. When I do this, I get grub error 17. I thought that perhaps a re-install of grub might fix this, so I booted (with LBA) the rescue disk, mounted and chrooted to my environment and ran grub-install and it appeared to work, but e02:44
riddleyrror 17 remained. Can anyone point me to some docs or help? Thanks.02:44
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lemsx1hello all02:45
riddleygrub is on my MBR, btw.02:45
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Neillhi. I'm having problems with the live cd.02:53
Neillgetting grub errors02:53
(bob2/#ubuntu) grub errors from the live cd?02:54
Neillbob2: yes.02:54
Neilland I've tried several Cds02:55
Neill(these are the official ubuntu cds I just got in the post).02:55
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GmailNeill: maybe if you told us the error we can help you03:05
Neillit's an error after Stage 1.503:07
Neillor loading 1.503:07
Neillsomething like 0x0103:07
Neillhaven't got the exact error here. sorry03:07
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meffheya what CMS does ubuntu's site use? i've seen it on a few other sites and i'd like to play with it03:08
Neill"Loading Stage 1.5 Read Error 0x01"03:09
danielsmeff: plone03:09
NeillThe install cd will boot, the live one will not.03:09
NeillI've tried 5 CDs03:09
meffdaniels: thanks :)03:09
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mgi just got a new computer :)03:20
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mgit's amd64. should i use ubuntu built for amd64 or i386?03:21
(bob2/#ubuntu) either03:21
(bob2/#ubuntu) amd64 will be faster for many things, tho03:21
mgok. are there any reasons to *not* use amd64. proprietary drivers, i.e. nvidia perhaps?03:22
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danielsmg: ati doesn't support it03:22
(bob2/#ubuntu) you mean with their AWESOMELY STABLE FIREGL drivers?03:22
danielsbob2: it accelerated my 8500 like nothing else, man03:22
mgbob2: dunno. it's got a fx 5500 in it. i don't know which driver yet.03:23
(bob2/#ubuntu) haha03:23
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mgok. i'll go amd64 then. thanks :)03:24
Deftis there some secret to running xcompmgr?03:25
mgnow i've just got to resize this rubbish OS to make room for ubuntu03:25
genmg, windows?03:25
Neillanyone have any ideas about how to get the live CD to work?03:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) Deft: not doing so03:25
danielsDeft: start with 'x' and go through to 'r'03:25
NeillI'm getting 14:06 < Neill> "Loading Stage 1.5 Read Error 0x01"03:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) Neill: please ask on the list since noe one here seems to know03:25
Neillbob2: ok.03:25
Deftgood suggestions all, but I was thinking more about making it not say "No composite extension"03:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) did you load the Composite extension as daniels's original mail explained?03:26
Deftbob2, not quite it seems... just found a useful google hit that says I didn't do enough03:27
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Tomcat_What's the easiest way of getting some MPG4-codec running on Ubuntu?03:31
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mghmm, in the installer's "partition disks" section i can resize a partition. does that just update the partitioning info or does it invoke parted?03:31
stvnhas bonobo been removed from the channel?03:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:32
danielsi haven't got him in my backlog.  was he some form of bot?03:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) yes03:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) a silly one03:32
stvnyeah, useful for getting (wiki) urls03:32
danielswhat did he do?03:32
Tomcat_bob2: Thanks, I've read that... but it doesn't really give any hints on what to do...03:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: it explains exactly what to do03:33
(bob2/#ubuntu) "install xine or mplayer" is about it03:33
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stvndaniels: remembering URLs mainly, the most frequently asked ones, like RestrictedFormats etc03:33
Tomcat_bob2: I can't find the part where it says to install another player, but thanks. :-)03:34
TsjoklatTomcat_ are you using totem-gstreamer?03:35
Tomcat_Tsjoklat: Yes.03:35
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TsjoklatTomcat_ try totem-xine03:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) "Where to get DVDCSS/xvid/other legally questionable packages"03:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) but no, it doesn't explicitly say it03:35
pridkettbob2: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main03:36
pridkettadd that to your sources.list03:36
stvnlol03:36
(bob2/#ubuntu) dude, I know that03:36
Tsjoklatlol03:36
Tsjoklatwb stvn03:36
stvnhey Tsjoklat03:36
Tsjoklatpridkett: hide03:36
Tomcat_Thanks pridkett... I know what to try out now... the wiki page is good, just not very verbose. :)03:36
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AbercrombieHello03:37
AbercrombieI can have other Distros come up with the Ubuntu Boot Loader?03:38
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Tomcat_Abercrombie: Yes.03:38
Deftthis xcompmgr works pretty well; don't see why people have been making such a fuss03:38
Tomcat_Abercrombie: Modify /boot/grub/menu.lst after reading the manpage :)03:38
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Abercrombielol03:39
AbercrombieI rather just save it to a floppy so I wont go through the trouble03:39
Gmailwowly crap03:39
Tomcat_Wow... thanks Tsjoklat... worked right away after installing the package03:40
Tomcat_Tsjoklat: The image is a bit bright... any ideas?03:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) fix your gamma03:41
TsjoklatTomcat_ great to hear... bright? go into the options?03:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) xgamma -gamma 0.8503:41
Gmaili did a apt-get upgrade03:41
Gmailand i see there are 47 bug reports03:41
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(bob2/#ubuntu) apt-listbugs doesn't work with ubuntu03:41
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Tomcat_Tsjoklat: Interesting... the default options are way too bright... best is to turn Brightness down to 0. :)03:42
TsjoklatTomcat_ no kidding :P03:42
Tsjoklatzenwhen weeee :)03:42
zenwhenoh hi there Tsjoklat :D03:43
MowinckelHi All! I'm new to ubuntu but have used Debian for a long period. I've never really used kernel 2.6 before, since I have had problems with my wireless USB Keyboard-Mouse all-in-one on kernel 2.6 (both in debian, fedora and mandrake). The problem is that both the keyboard and the mouse acts "choppy" (correct me for a better word). Does anyone know this problem? It happened in Debian the moment I tried to upgrade to kernel 2.6. Is there some03:44
Mowinckelsorts of options that I can send to the usbhid or usbcore modules?03:44
Tsjoklatzenwhen :)03:44
zenwhenHow are you doing this moring/whatever it is to you?03:45
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mojocan someone help me on the set .buildrc setSDKpath() to build RealPlayer on Debian?03:45
Tsjoklatzenwhen: morning and getting there... thinking of making a huge breakfast.. how about yourself?03:45
Deftpointless update, "xcompmgr -cfF" is fantastic! although I will be sick of it in a second or too...03:45
zenwhenWhy dont you download the binary from realplayer.com?03:46
Tsjoklatmojo worked for me03:46
zenwhenTsjoklat, someone didnt rewind the tape I alays tape my silly wrestling sho on, and now I dont get to watch it. ;-;03:46
mojoI've installed ligogg-dev, ligtheora-dev and libvorbis-dev but the RealPlayer build system still can't regconize the oggvorbissdk, my .buildrc set to path "/usr"03:46
zenwhenalways*03:47
Tsjoklatzenwhen: bummer :{03:47
mojoTsjoklat: my lad, privatechat with me03:47
(bob2/#ubuntu) wtf, .buildrc03:47
(bob2/#ubuntu) no one has unfucked their build system yet?03:47
Tsjoklatmojo my dear.. I am female, woman, girl... remember?03:47
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zenwhenGirls smell nice. o;03:48
ubuntu-geekubuntuforums.org is backup everyone. sorry for the downtime was moving to a new server. :)03:48
zenwhenoh hey there ubuntu-geek03:48
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu-geek: your dns is fucked03:48
zenwhenthanks for letting us know03:48
Tsjoklatbob2: bad day?03:48
ubuntu-geekfucked eh?03:48
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tsjoklat: hm?03:48
ubuntu-geekthats harsh03:48
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu-geek: hm, seems to be working now03:48
Tsjoklatbob2: haven't seen anything of your cheerful self yet that's all03:49
zenwhenIt was rather fucked last night.03:49
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu-geek: your NS records weren't resolving at all for a while, maybe it was their dns which was broken03:49
zenwhenBut it is ok today.03:49
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ubuntu-geekyeah dns was wacky last night when it was updating..03:49
[A] ndy80hi03:49
MowinckelOk, I'll try with an easier question ;-) Where can I get information about what options you can send to a module?03:49
mojorare to see gals hanging around here03:50
(bob2/#ubuntu) Mowinckel: modinfo blah03:50
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tsjoklat: hm, work stress, I guess, my apologies03:50
Tsjoklatbob2: hope it resolves for you... stress is not good03:51
ubuntu-geekwell if anyone has issues let me know :)03:51
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Tsjoklatubuntu-geek I am an issue :P03:51
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ubuntu-geekwell site issues, i'll let you work out the personal ones ;)03:52
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Tsjoklatubuntu-geek: no fair :)03:52
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zenwhenCommunity Chat is such a fun forum.03:54
Tsjoklatnever been there myself03:55
Tsjoklattend to zip right over to the art department03:55
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Mowinckelbob2: Thanks now i know that for another time. But no luck.03:56
zenwhenIm not the biggest art buff myself. I'm either in General Support or Community Chat most of the tims.03:56
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Tsjoklathi sid7703:56
MowinckelAm I really the one person in the world who have experienced choppy mouse behavior on kernel 2.6??03:56
TsjoklatI should check it out zenwhen03:56
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AbercrombieHello, how do I put my fresh installed Ubuntu into Cutting Edge :)03:57
Abercrombieon my celeron 634mhz 256mb 20gb Linux Box (i'm a newbie )03:58
Abercrombiealmost 3 weeks03:58
TsjoklatAbercrombie specify cutting edge03:58
kentAbercrombie, use Hoary.  I guess its on the homepage.  You have to change apt to use Hoary archive instead of the stable Warty03:58
Abercrombiethanks , how do I do that03:59
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kentAbercrombie, read on the homepage of ubuntu? it might say how to do it.  I dont have the time to tell you right now04:01
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kentAbercrombie, but did you mean cutting edge, as in the most newest or the most slim?04:01
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Abercrombiewhats most slim?04:02
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madsenI wonder how I enable danish chars on my system... No applications seem to accept input from those keys. :/04:02
kentAbercrombie, with slim i mean, like "dont use much memory and cpu"04:03
AbercrombieI guess the most newest, but not testing because04:03
AbercrombieSLIM SOUNDS good04:03
Abercrombieitll be nice on my celeron 634mhz right04:04
Abercrombierather than Cutting Edge04:04
Abercrombie?04:04
kentAbercrombie, well, then i guess you should try to use another window-manager (desktop).  Try asking people on how to install that. Im busy.04:04
Abercrombiehow about slim ?04:05
zenwhenshady04:06
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kentAbercrombie, there are no real thing called slim.  I just asked about slim to know if it was that you ment with cutting edge.04:07
kentAbercrombie, to get a slim desktop, you have to do things manually. Like, changing windowmanager, and stuff.04:07
madsenkent: Usually the terms "bleeding/cutting edge" means "latest development"...04:08
madsenkent: In some cases even "latest - and greatest"04:09
sabdflumm... abercrombie & kent, was that deliberate?04:09
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kentsabdfl, what?04:10
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danielssabdfl: isn't it abercrombie & fitch?04:11
Abercrombieyes04:11
jordiyay.04:11
Abercrombielol04:11
sabdfldifferent company04:11
sabdfl A&K do great safari holidays04:11
jordiI got permission from boss to go to the conference, until Tuesday.04:11
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TsjoklatTongMaster04:11
TongMasterheya Tsjoklat04:12
Tsjoklathewo04:12
TongMastermy pushie just got nicked :/04:12
danielsarse :\04:12
danielssabdfl: ah04:12
TsjoklatTongMaster?04:13
TongMasterdaniels, translate04:13
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danielsTongMaster: 'sucks'04:13
TsjoklatTongMaster: translate04:13
TongMasterTsjoklat, my pushie just got nicked.04:13
TongMasterpushie = bicycle04:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) jordi: sangria for all!04:14
TsjoklatTongMaster: for a moment I had weird visions04:14
jordiTongMaster: oh, my sympathies :(04:15
TongMasterNot my nice shiny "only ever ridden in races" racer, but my trusty 10+ years old mountain bike, my main means of transport between Ubuntu clients. Stolen.04:15
danielsTongMaster: where from?04:15
Tsjoklatwoop woop land04:15
jordiTongMaster: don't know if you follow pgo or pdo, but my 16y/o bike was stolen last monday :(04:15
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TongMastersurfless' house, daniels04:15
danielsbugger!04:16
danielsisn't that in the sticks?04:16
jordiTongMaster: http://oskuro.net/blog/stuff/stolen-bike-2004-11-16-01-4304:16
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TsjoklatTongMaster sorry to hear about your pushie04:16
TongMasterMy own fault, we'd been out beering, Craig wanted to give me some Chaser AVi's I letf my bike out front, (behind a 6'2" hedge) and though "she'll be rright"  and willfully chose not to lock it.04:17
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TongMasterI feel more a sense of release though, after ten years I'd not once tuned it or changed tires, the bike made more noises than daniels' mum in bed and the tires were balder than bob2's pubic regions.04:19
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TongMasterI'll admit, I'd been thinking of replacing it, it had spent too much time watching me surf and the rust was, well starting to show.04:19
CPUnerdhehe fun. I know I can get root by doing "sudo su -" on ubuntu, but what's the normal regular root password.04:19
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TongMasterby default, CPUnerd, it's disabled.04:20
TongMasterbut thanks for ruining my monologue04:20
TongMaster;)04:20
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TongMasteroh whatm, this is not #pipe?04:20
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TsjoklatTongMaster: it's entertaining04:21
CPUnerdif you just type su, it asks you for a password04:21
CPUnerdubuntu is beautiful tho04:21
jordiCPUnerd: you name it: sudo passwd04:21
danielsCPUnerd: if you really badly need a root shell, do 'sudo -s'04:21
jordiTongMaster: oh, :/04:22
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Recon`LaptopLo Guys04:22
jordiTongMaster: mine was locked with a motorbike lock.04:22
CPUnerddaniels~  I did sudo su -04:22
mbp_sudo sh will be enough04:22
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CPUnerdbut i was wondering what is the password if there's one04:22
TongMasterjordi, yeah but you're in Spain, it's full of riff raff.04:22
jordiBut here in Valencia, the fuckers go around with one of those tools that cut iron04:22
TongMaster;)04:22
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jordiTongMaster: lol04:22
Recon`LaptopHow do you get gDesklets onto ubuntu>04:22
Recon`Laptop?04:23
jordido you really want gdesktlets? they are silly, broken and a memory hog. :)04:23
mbp_CPUnerd, there is none04:23
CPUnerdok.04:24
(bob2/#ubuntu) Recon`Laptop: it's in universe04:24
Tsjoklatjordi: eye candy04:24
jordiTsjoklat: it's even ugly...04:24
Tsjoklatjordi the biggest reason why ppl want/use it04:24
jordi(and I never see my desktop background anyway ;)04:24
TongMasterNah, my problem is I come from part of Sydney that is too trusting and though I"ve been living in not-so-nice areas for two years, in the end, I'm still too comfortable leaving my stuff around, I' mjust glad I brought my laptop inside to copty the videos. The streets were so eerily empty when I cam out.04:24
agenteoI've tried to change the umask for my ubuntu, I've looked in .bash_profile and there is specified that the default umask is in /etc/login.defs I've changed umask there but still I don't get the correct umask when I create new file or dirs04:24
TongMasterOhmer, jordi, remind me to kick your arse at a triathlon if we ever meet ;)04:25
agenteoI've changed the umask value even in /etc/profile but still nothing... I hope someone knows more then me...04:25
jordiTongMaster, Ohmer: you do tris?04:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) man, I was wondering wtf you were drunk and riding at 3pm04:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) then I realised it's 0130 in sydney04:25
jordiTongMaster: around what mark in a sprint?04:25
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triablo;04:26
triabloarg04:26
TongMasterjordi, I do what we call "a sprint" - 500m swim, 20K bike, 5K run - nothing special. I leave the real triathlons to people with no lives.04:26
TsjoklatI get tired just reading it04:26
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Coythere's in forum download link to hoary...is it stable enough all ready...?04:27
TsjoklatCoy: no04:27
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jordiTongMaster: hey, where's the other 250m?04:27
sabdfljordi: are you going to run from barcelona to mataro every morning?04:27
CoyTsjoklat:ok04:27
TsjoklatTongMaster: :P04:27
TongMasterjordi, ke?04:27
jordisabdfl: hey :)04:27
jordisabdfl: well, lulu and I will definitely need to find some cool place to run around04:28
TsjoklatCoy: try two months before release.. around feb04:28
jordiBarcelona will be a bit too far I'm afraid ;)04:28
CoyTsjoklat:ok i will04:28
jordiTongMaster: sprints are 750m/20/5, officially04:29
madsenHmm, how the hell do I get my danish chars back in Hoary?04:29
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jordiTongMaster: and anyway, nothing like an olympic. (I have a life!)04:29
Coybob2:yesterday I ask about that PnPBIOS error...it's solved... =) I just added /boot/grub/menu.lst line: pnpbios=off04:30
TongMasterheh04:30
Recon`LaptopHow do you get gDesklets onto ubuntu?04:30
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(bob2/#ubuntu) Coy: ah04:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) Recon`Laptop: it's in universe, install it04:30
Coybob2:no errors anymore =)04:30
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TongMasterjordi, we are not ones for "rules" or thing official on this side of the world. It's a matter of "there's the course, give it a bash"04:30
TongMasterAlso, we can all swim here, so  the swim is kind of a  dead leg, really, jordi.04:31
TongMasterThe swim / bike transition is much more decisive than tghe swim :)04:32
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madsenWtf! I think triathlon is a _bit_ off-topic...04:33
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madsenlol!04:33
TongMasterat this time of the morning, I thought people would be glad of some noise.04:33
jordiheh04:34
madsenTongMaster: Morning, it's 16:30 here! ;)04:34
danielsTongMaster: it's 3:3504:34
jordiI love to make a channel offtopic. Sorry. :)04:34
daniels(pm)04:34
jordidaniels: are you in the UK or what?04:34
danielsjordi: yah04:34
jordidaniels: cool04:34
madsenLOL! I didn't mean to stop the talk. I just wanted to point out exactly _how_ OT it was. :)04:34
TongMasterdaniels, you'll never adjust to .eu time. I told you, get pissed, get on the plane, wake up in .eu time.04:34
TongMastermadsen, where are you .de?04:35
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madsenTongMaster: Close, .dk :)04:35
TongMaster<flame>04:35
TongMastersame thing04:35
TongMaster,/flame>04:35
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madsenTongMaster: :p04:35
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TongMasterHey, we'll be running .dk soon anway, what a scary thought.04:36
kentTongMaster, .dk?04:36
TongMasterThe future kings of .dk will be half Tasmanian.04:36
madsenTongMaster: We? .au?04:36
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madsenTongMaster: Oh!04:36
danielsTongMaster: .dk's an awesome place.04:36
madsenkent: Denmark04:36
(bob2/#ubuntu) they have christmas beer!04:37
madsendaniels: No it's not...04:37
TongMasterI wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy.04:37
danielsbob2: exactly04:37
danielsmadsen: well, expensive04:37
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madsenTongMaster: wish what?04:37
TongMasterThe only thing worse than being from Tasmania is picky up a Tasmanian at a crappy Sydney bar like the "Slipp Inn"04:38
madsendaniels: Yeah, but the beer is pretty much what makes people stay here. The fascist government and the peoples pride in the infamous "danish hospitality" (which doesn't exist - and never has) makes me sick...04:38
madsenTongMaster: lol!04:38
TongMastermadsen, I wouldn't wish having monarchrs who were half Tasmanian upon anyone. The only thing worse is being half Canberran (looks at bob2)04:39
madsenTongMaster: hehe04:39
danielsmadsen: .dk government can't be worse than .au04:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) I'm 100%, tyvm04:39
TongMastermadsen, I'm sorry but if Mary was at the Slipp Inn, she's no princess.04:39
danielsmadsen: and beautiful place.  BUT!  hideously off-topic.04:39
TongMasterdaniels, but this is not 3pipe?04:40
TongMaster#pipe, even04:40
Recon`LaptopSo no-one here knoes how to get Gdesklets running on Ubuntu?04:40
(bob2/#ubuntu) Recon`Laptop: I told you twice04:40
madsendaniels: Well, it's actually better than .us and .uk, but I don't know anything about the australian gov, so I can't really compare there...04:40
(bob2/#ubuntu) Recon`Laptop: if you don't understand what I said, SAY SO04:40
madsendaniels: .dk, beautiful? Hah! It's flat!04:40
TongMasterRecon`Laptop, yep, I do.04:40
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(bob2/#ubuntu) TongMaster: this is #ubuntu04:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) see the difference?04:41
TongMasternot so far.04:41
madsenRecon`Laptop: I do. Do what bob2 told you...04:41
TongMasternormally 3ubuntu is so busy it's like signal noise, right now it's more like #pipe or is it just me?04:41
madsenTongMaster: And she worked for MS here in Denmark. *brr*04:42
Recon`LaptopOh, Sorry Bob, I might have missed what you sai. I'm from SA, and my BW is less than nothing04:42
zenwhenWell most of the US is at work, or still asleep.04:42
TongMastermadsen, *see*04:42
TongMaster:)04:42
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madsenTongMaster: I was actually planning to assassinate her (along with the government and Blair and Bush), but then I decided just to go to Burger King instead...04:43
Recon`LaptopOkay, So its in Universe?04:43
Recon`LaptopThat Means I need to do what to access it?04:43
Coyjust curios what time is in US? here in finland it's 5.30 pm(evening?)04:43
Coy:)04:43
TongMasterheya jordi, I'm doing everest basecamp in May bedore wandering Europe next year :)04:43
(bob2/#ubuntu) Recon`Laptop: as I said, wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:43
zenwhenEastern time it is 10:49am04:43
cenerentolahi bob2...04:44
Tsjoklat07.44 Coy04:44
cenerentolasorry but today im not going to bother you..04:44
TongMastermadsen, can I assinate you for going to Burger King?04:44
cenerentolai know ull miss it04:44
Tsjoklat<-- making breakfast04:44
CoyTsjoklat: :)04:44
madsenRecon`Laptop: Add universe in Synaptic. (Or manually in: /etc/apt/sources.list)04:44
TongMasterTsjoklat, no don't, I was planning to fo a runner before you made breakfast. I'm not one for permenant attachment.....04:45
Coyquite big difference :)04:45
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madsenTongMaster: No, 'cause I'm a hypocratic vegetarian, that eats bacon and burgers... It's not allowed to assassinate us...04:45
Coyguys are waking up I'm going to sleep...04:46
Coyalmost04:46
Rob|UbuntuI want to put my Ubuntu (Sid) what I do04:46
Rob|UbuntuI change warty to hoary in synaptic or in the console?04:46
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TongMastermadsen, hypocritical?04:46
titbreadjust running the live cd and my wireless keyboard isnt working04:46
titbreadhow can i fix this?04:46
TongMasterOh my god, I've swallowed daniels pills04:46
danielstitbread: more information needed.  what sort of wireless keyboard?04:47
(bob2/#ubuntu) Rob|Ubuntu: you run warty and want to switch to hoary?04:47
danielsbluetooth?  radio?  infrared?  usb?  ps/2?04:47
madsenTongMaster: Yeah, that... :) (I'm not a native speaker.)04:47
Rob|Ubuntuyea I Just finish installing Ubuntu (Warty)04:47
Rob|Ubuntubob2:04:47
titbreadps/204:47
TongMastermadsen, yeah, tis OK, I'll buy you  a beer in July :)04:47
(bob2/#ubuntu) Rob|Ubuntu: more or less04:47
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titbreadbut i think its bluetooth, im not sure04:47
ubuntu-geekanyone around to fix the topic to say the forums are backup :)04:47
titbreadits a wireless ps/2 keyboard04:48
TsjoklatTongMaster better make it fast... we gotta eat in twenty04:48
Recon`LaptopTongmaster, How?04:48
Abercrombieso I change it in synaptic to be easier than via the console04:48
madsenTongMaster: In july?04:48
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titbreaddaniels, yeh its a ps/2 wireless keyboard only goes to 1 and a half meters so it cant be bluetooth04:49
TongMastermadsen, I'll be wndering through europe, pausing in London, Scotlend, Ireland, Germany, Amsterdam and spain, if jordi has the guts to race ;)04:49
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titbreadknow how to fix it?04:50
TongMastermadsen, I'll probably also be drunk like now so my English will be as good as my typing :)04:50
Recon`LaptopROFL. Its kinda hilarious but Great. Ubunut is a South-African Distribution, made by SA for SA. but everyone is crazy about it04:50
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TongMasterRecon`Laptop, no, only the name is SA.04:51
titbreadim uk and i have 150 copies in total04:51
titbreadi have already given 4 mac power version away 2 day04:51
titbreadand a couple of 64bit ones04:51
danielstitbread: no idea without more information.  should work.04:51
TongMasterplus when you say SA, I think South Australia, shouldn't you say .za?04:51
danielsRecon`Laptop: the development team has a more global taint04:51
titbreaddaniels, what information do you need?04:51
zenwhenRecon`Laptop, you really couldnt be more wrong.04:51
danielstitbread: more specific than 'it doesn't work' -- does it work in the bios?  console?04:52
madsenTongMaster: Cool! :)04:52
titbreaddaniels, nah nothing, dont get any response from it. I know the keyboard will work on windows04:52
titbreaddaniels,  but it doesn't bring the bios up, but it does recognise a keypress - because the reciever flashes04:53
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danielsif it doesn't work in the BIOS, then there's nothing we can do04:55
danielsit's not a real PS/2 keyboard04:55
titbreadyeh it is a real PS/2 keyboard, it works fine on windows04:55
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titbreadhmmm strange04:56
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Coywill those ati radeon drivers work?(via apt-get)04:57
AbercrombieI need help changin my Ubuntu to Sid04:57
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madsenAbercrombie: You want to shift from Ubuntu to Debian? Or from Warty to Hoary?04:57
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CoyAbercrombie:there is in forum download link to hoary release...04:57
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AbercrombieWarty to Hoary :)04:57
Joe_Powerbookjust installed Ubuntu and it 1)doesn't recognize my HT system and 2) doesn't see all 2GB of my RAM04:57
Abercrombiewhere COy04:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) please don't enoucrage people to download random stuff linked from forums04:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: in what way doesn't it recognise it?04:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: and you need a custom kernel to see more than 896MB of ram04:58
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CoyAbercrombie: in unofficial Ubuntu forums...try google...04:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) bah forums04:58
Coy:)04:58
Joe_Powerbookbob2: yeah, but looks like the source or the compiler are not installed, correct?04:58
Coythere's a link04:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: by default, yes04:59
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(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: install build-essential aned linux-source-2.604:59
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(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary04:59
AbercrombieThanks bob204:59
Joe_Powerbookbob2: that build-essential was what I was looking for! thanks!!!!05:00
WildCodeI'm having dns issues with ubuntu ... I have place nameservers as they are here in windows into resolv.conf and nothing resolves ... the only "clue" I can find is kern.log stating that it couldn't find a IPv6 router05:00
Coyin hoary what will be the kernel release?05:00
Coy2.6.9.x?05:00
Coyquess I have reboot X now..just installed videocard drivers..05:02
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ixusHello.  Any Apple users/05:03
ixus?05:03
(bob2/#ubuntu) lots of people05:03
MapeXhi channel05:04
(bob2/#ubuntu) WildCode: the router stuff doesn't matter05:04
ixusI just wanted a quick bit of advice. . .05:04
MapeXhello05:04
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ixusmy CD drive doesn't seem to want to read Linux boot CDs - data CD's are fine05:04
MapeXhello05:05
ixusit there a way to net install incase my CD drive is knackered?05:05
|QuaD|ixus: are you using a ppc boot disc or an x86 boot disk05:05
MapeXhello05:05
ixusppc05:05
ixusit sounds like it wont spin up05:05
themulehey, i want to install windows again, but when i boot up it doesnt recognise the CD in there, any idea's05:05
themule?05:05
ixusI made a PC boot disk on my mac & that works fine on PC, just the MAc ones wont work05:06
ixusWindows XP?  98?05:06
(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus: are you holding down C at the right time?05:06
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themuleXP05:07
ixusbob2: yes, CD sounds like it is having trouble spinning up, it spins up, spins down, jumps a bit etc - data CDs are fine as are MAc os X install CDs05:07
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arc_arc@ubuntu:~ $ gnome-keybinding-properties05:07
(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus: sure you burnt it correctly?05:07
arc_failed to find gam_server05:07
arc_failed to exec (null)05:07
arc_mmmm05:07
arc_does anyone knows what gam_server is?05:08
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mathmonkHello - how do I point apt to use the development tree for ubuntu ?05:08
Abercrombiewhat runs better for slow pcs celeron 634mhz 256mb , GNome, KDE, ?05:08
(bob2/#ubuntu) mathmonk: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary05:08
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: both are fine05:08
ixusbob2:  pretty sure - same process for burning the PC cd which worked fine05:08
(bob2/#ubuntu) tho 256MB will suck a bit05:08
mathmonkbob2, thank you!05:08
(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus: the md5sum matches the iso?05:08
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themulehow can i boot a CD? it isnt working for me =\05:09
ixushaven't ever used an md5sum05:09
(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus: well, check05:09
arc_Abercrombie: wmaker/blackbox/enlightenment  :P05:09
Abercrombieyea but what can I do, its my old pc and just wanna learn linux first and then move it to my good pc amd athlon xp-m 2800+ 704mb ddr05:09
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) themule: put it in, tell the bios to boot from CD and it should work05:09
CPUnerdjust like this. apt-cache search php5 is not in the list right ?05:09
(bob2/#ubuntu) themule: on what? a pc?05:09
PitrFINLAND SUOMI PERKELE!05:09
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) themule: how did you burn the CD?05:09
Pitrahem05:09
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) pritt!05:09
PitrI meant: Hello Echramath, long time no see05:09
CPUnerdit's debian question but just wondering05:09
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: so what are you asking?05:09
ixusthemule:  reset your PC, & hold down escape / delete - what ever the prompt is to set you bios...05:09
Pitroi trn05:09
(bob2/#ubuntu) CPUnerd: yes, php5 is not in debian or ubuntu05:10
themuleTreenaks: i'll give it ago05:10
CPUnerdok thanks05:10
Abercrombiejust wondering smething, but I see more menus with KDE than with GNome05:10
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: yes, gnome in ubuntu doesn't use debian's menu system05:10
ixusyou should have an option to change the boot order, something like floppy drive first, then CD, then hard drive05:10
WildCodehmm, looks like a RedHat/Ubuntu user also had exact same issue as me (according to google) ... with no way to fix05:10
Abercrombiebob2: so then ? what I do05:11
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: your question is "How do I get all the programs I install to show up in the gnome menu?"?05:11
Abercrombiebob2: pretty much yes05:11
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: adding them manually is the only current solution05:11
Abercrombiei dont know how to do that (newbie)05:12
(bob2/#ubuntu) ctrl-l applications:// <enter>05:12
(bob2/#ubuntu) in nautilus05:12
Abercrombiebut anyways right now I'm trying to read the link you gave me so I can do this stuff.05:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) ok...05:13
Abercrombiehow often i gotta do apt-get update / apt-get -t unstable upgrade?05:14
Abercrombiebut since im changin my sources is gonna upgrade from unstable right05:14
Abercrombiebut what if something is not available for unstable yet and the latest is only in testing will it use it too?05:14
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu doesn't have a distribution called "unstable"05:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) so -t unstable will not ever do anything05:15
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Abercrombiehoary05:15
Abercrombieoh05:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) you don't ever need to dist-upgrade05:15
Abercrombie< use to deb05:15
Abercrombiecool05:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) and I'd not recommend someone new to ubuntu move to hoary at all05:15
themulehey, it didnt work :(05:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) also there is no "testing" in ubuntu05:15
EchramathPitr: Aa, you were on... #friendly @ IRCNet?05:16
Pitraye05:16
PitrLordTyphon for you.05:16
themuleright, i want to install windows XP again, when i try and boot it the CD doesnt load and it just goes onto ubuntu, need help05:16
Abercrombiewhy not05:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) themule: configure your bios to boot it05:16
themulei couldnt find it05:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: ubuntu is doing it differently05:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) themule: look in your bios manual05:17
Abercrombiei can see :)05:17
|QuaD|Abercrombie: debian unstable is still pretty stable05:17
themulebut normaly for all other o/s's it boots up fine05:17
CPUnerd|QuaD|~  I have SID on 13 servers. and it's really stable05:17
Abercrombiestable in outdated or stable as in good working05:17
|QuaD|ubuntu hoary is really an unstable release made for testing05:17
|QuaD|CPUnerd: yeah.... i used to use sid05:17
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CPUnerd:)05:18
CPUnerdwhat you use now ?05:18
CPUnerdfbsd ? :P05:18
|QuaD|CPUnerd: i don't know if i would use unstable on production servers, but its still stable05:18
|QuaD|ubuntu05:18
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|QuaD|i don't run servers05:18
|QuaD|i would probably choose openbsd though05:18
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themulebob2: but normaly for all other o/s's it boots up fine05:19
CPUnerd|QuaD|~  if you need anything about it, any opinions because you are going to be having servers, I will tell  you personally that sid is nice. and works prettyyy well ;)05:19
|QuaD|what does?05:19
Abercrombiebob2: why you dont recommend somebody new to linux to go to hoary05:19
CPUnerdeverything05:19
|QuaD|what os05:19
CPUnerddebian SID05:20
|QuaD|oh05:20
|QuaD|yeah05:20
|QuaD|i ran sid for 2 years05:20
CPUnerdthe only thing that pisses me off is apt-cache search php505:20
|QuaD|haha05:20
Coyhey,what is mouse in ubuntu?/dev/mouse? I have generic wheelmouse ps/205:20
themulecan i format C:\ from ubuntu?05:20
wasabi/dev/psaux05:20
|QuaD|i reformatted my hd (sid) and put ubuntu on05:20
wasabithemule: depends what C:\ is05:20
Coyis it?05:20
themulemy HD05:20
EchramathCoy: /dev/input/mouse0?05:20
CPUnerdthemule~  type cfdisk if you are lukcy05:20
wasabiTheMuwhat file system05:21
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: because you won't be able to fix it when it breaks05:21
wasabithemule what file system05:21
Coythis radeon driver ask about it...05:21
themuleerm, the one that is first selected in the ubuntu installation05:21
EchramathAFAIK you can't format, just create filesystems?05:21
wasabithemule: unix does not use drive letters. That is purely a DOS invention. So I have no idea what you mean by C:\.05:21
wasabiRephrase what you are asking.05:22
Echramathwasabi: Of course PC bioses you it too.05:22
wasabiIf you mean "first partition of first drive"05:22
Abercrombiethanks bob205:22
Coydrive letters are straight from hell ;)05:22
wasabiEchramath: not mine.05:22
CPUnerdthemule~  type "less /etc/fstab"05:22
EchramathOkey, but many do.05:23
themulei dont know, i just want to boot my windows XP installation CD from start-up05:23
wasabiIf they do it's simply a visual representation of Something.05:23
wasabithemule: you just want to install Windows? WHat does that have to do with Ubuntu?05:23
Coythat mouse?what is it?I have no clue05:23
Abercrombiebut bob2: maybe I can manage :)05:23
WildCodehow do I disable ipv6 in ubuntu ... I want to see if its causing my dns issues (same issue noted in 3 other dists)05:23
wasabiCoy: /dev/psaux05:23
themulei installed ubuntu, to see what it was like, now i want to go back to windows, but it isnt booting the CD05:24
Coywasabi:ok =)) I try that05:24
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wasabithemule: Well, your computers inability to boot a CD rom has absolutly nothing to do with Ubuntu at all. The best I can do is say check your bIOS settings.05:24
wasabiMakes sure it's in the right boot order.05:24
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themulebut it does normaly, has ubuntu change the BIOS settings?05:25
wasabiThat's not even possible.05:25
Abercrombiebob2: I used MEPIS CUtting Edge and nothing seemed to break, so if anythign breaks I can ask here ? or is it that ubuntu hoary breaks a lot?05:25
Joe_Powerbookum, I'm trying to run a make menuconfig and it says it can't find ncurses library, but they're installed05:26
themuleits booted every CD i ever tried, but now i have ubuntu, and there is a bootable disk in the drive, it wont boot =\05:26
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(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: libncurses5-dev05:26
Joe_Powerbookerror says to install ncurses-devel, but there's no such package05:26
Coydamn..what the hell is Quad Buffer Stereo?should it be enabled?05:26
Echramaththemule: But the CD should take command before any OS starts.05:26
Coy:)05:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: do you want to help find bugs?05:26
Abercrombiei would love to05:26
themulethats my point..05:26
wasabithemule: booting from teh CD is handled pruely by the BIOS probing for a bootloader from the CD, before it probes for a boot loader from the HD.05:26
wasabithemule: if your BIOS is not doing so, it has nothing to do with ubuntu.05:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: do you know how to fix things if, say, dpkg breaks, etc?05:27
themuleok..05:27
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wasabigo into your bios and examine the settings05:27
Abercrombiehmm not sure but I can learn , like dependencies you mean?05:27
wasabimake sure the CD is set to be probed before the HD05:27
wasabiMaybe your bios requires you to hold down a key or som...05:28
wasabin/m05:28
Joe_Powerbookbob2: thanks... is this processes documented somewhere? I could not seem to find all of this listed out....05:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: newbiedoc.sf.net05:28
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raphaHi all!05:28
Abercrombieanother thing is that i also want to run the latest stuff05:28
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(bob2/#ubuntu) I'm sure you do05:29
Abercrombielol05:29
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adsjhello, when i try to recompile the kernel i get this errors05:30
adsj"cant find file arch/Linux/Kconfig"05:30
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adsjis that an ubuntu bug ?05:31
(bob2/#ubuntu) no05:31
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adsjhmm, so what is that? and how i can fix it ?05:31
adsjon arch i havent this Linux directory05:31
zenwhen1) Have you installed Build Essential?05:31
adsji've tried with vanilla src and the ubuntu's linux-sources05:31
adsjzenwhen, can you please give me the name of the package? thanks05:32
adsji'll check05:32
zenwhenI just did05:32
madsenHmm, anyone lost sound, dvd-playback and charset when upgrading to Hoary? (whore-y?)05:32
adsjhmm build-essential is already installed zenwhen05:33
zenwhenI lost my wide, charisma, and job when upgrading to whore-y ;-;05:33
(bob2/#ubuntu) adsj: what command are you running?05:33
zenwhenwife*05:33
adsjbob2, make menuconfig05:33
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(bob2/#ubuntu) adsj: install libncurses5-dev05:34
madsenzenwhen: Drrm-chi! ;)05:34
zenwhenD:05:34
Joe_Powerbookit would be really nice to have the configuration file for the stock kernel, so I don't leave anything out when I recompile  =(05:34
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adsjbob2, already installed :(05:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: /boot/05:35
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Joe_Powerbook=)05:35
adsjanother solution ?05:36
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(bob2/#ubuntu) paste the full error to #flood05:36
zenwhenHavent heard of anyone with those things installed having an issue05:36
adsjok, 1 sec05:36
icecrashmoin05:36
icecrashanyone who can tell me how to report bugs against universe packages? they are not listet in bugzilla05:37
adsjbob2, done05:37
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icecrashdirectly mail to maintainer? or any other ways05:38
Tibozhey all05:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) icecrash: read the bugzilla front page05:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) that answers that exact question05:38
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Tibozwill ubuntu make a kernel package for 2.6.9 in hoary ?05:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) yes05:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) and no one knows when05:38
Tibozoki05:38
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deFryskwhen ? ;p05:38
Tibozthat was my second question :)05:38
deFryskwhy not wait till 2.6.10 comes out ?05:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) maybe they will05:39
deFryskodd numbers usually are poorer versions anyway05:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) adsj: where did you get your source from?05:39
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adsjbob2, kernel.org05:39
adsjbob2, btw the same for ubuntu's linux-sources05:40
icecrashbob2: wether I'm blind or I don't know what you want to tell me05:40
icecrashthe bugzilla.ub... doesn't tell me that and the help packages also not05:41
wave what kind of kernel does ubuntu use just the vanilla with a crap load of patches?05:41
icecrashs/packages/site/05:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) icecrash: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Ubuntu05:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) wave: is there any other possible type of kernel?05:42
(bob2/#ubuntu) (aside from "no patches")05:42
wavewell mm or ck of some sort05:42
adsjno solution :(05:43
waveir maybe the debian kernel which I have no idea what they use either. never been a debian fna05:43
(bob2/#ubuntu) no sane distro is going to have -mm be the default kernel05:44
waveProbably not.05:44
waveBuggy.05:45
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waveIs there any screen shots of that app I hear about that is going to take the place of synaptic on the web?05:47
awtcmcafter running dvd shrink in wine, i am now unable to open k3b to burn anything.  i receive the following error:05:47
awtcmckdecore (KIconLoader): WARNING: Icon directory /usr/share/icons/Smokey-Red/ group 48x48/filesystems not valid.05:47
icecrash_by05:48
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Echramathawtcmc: It's a warning, not an error, right?05:48
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awtcmcyes, its just a warning.  however, k3b will not open.  it basically freezes with a blank window while trying to scan for cd and dvd devices05:49
Echramathawtcmc: I suppose that the warning doesn't affect the operation of K3B at all, the problem is somewhere else.05:49
awtcmceven in the window selector, there is no icon for k3b05:50
(bob2/#ubuntu) you're burning stuff with *wine*?05:50
(bob2/#ubuntu) I'd be happy if my machine didn't catch on fire after that05:50
awtcmci rip and compress the dvd with dvd shrink under wine.05:50
EchramathMaybe the windows software did some terrible mutilations on the drive.05:50
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EchramathLike put it in the "not working" -mode.05:51
(bob2/#ubuntu) scsiutils might have something to reset it05:51
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awtcmcthat's possible, because i then installed xcdroast, and it could not detect the cd or dvd drives, even though i can open and close them and they appear when i open the computer location05:51
awtcmcafter searching online, this is a very common error when using kde apps on a debian system, but i can't resolve it.  from what i've found, its simply an icon issue.05:52
awtcmcor maybe a theme issue05:52
awtcmcbob, can you tell me more about scsiutils05:53
awtcmclike where to get, how to use?05:53
Neill apt-get install scsiutils probably05:53
awtcmcnope, apt-get won't do it.  its not in any of the official ubuntu repositories05:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) lord05:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) it was a guess at a name05:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) sg-utils - utilities for working with generic SCSI devices05:55
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adsji try another time :) someone have some problems when try to recompile the kernel on ubuntu ( hoary) ? especially when launch make menuconfig05:57
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adsji've already the libncurses installed05:57
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awtcmcok, bob2, sg-utils is installed, now what?05:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) now look and see if it has a utility to reset your drive05:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) if not, you reboot05:58
awtcmci'm somewhat of a linux noob here, so i can't open it from the terminal with sg-utils.  do you know how to run the app?05:58
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ixuschecksums match - must be my CD drive06:01
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|QuaD|probably06:01
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zenwhenmy ubuntu cds never made it to me06:02
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zenwhenthe site said they shipped and I never got them06:02
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) zenwhen: ..yet06:02
zenwhenso sad ;-;06:02
zenwhenit said they shipped like 12 days ago06:02
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zenwhen;-;06:03
zenwhenOh well.. I realy wanted a LiveCD.06:03
|QuaD|zenwhen:  why didn't you just burn them yourselves?06:03
zenwhenDialup?06:03
awtcmccan anyone help with my k3b issue?06:03
|QuaD|oh, that would take a while06:04
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zenwhenOh well... I hope I get them though.06:04
zenwhenIm going to give them out to some people around here who really should be running Linux.06:04
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|QuaD|zenwhen: lol06:05
zenwhenAnd keep some for myself.06:05
zenwhenwell06:05
zenwhentwo.06:05
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zenwhenI want a liveCD just for a rescue disk.06:05
zenwhenI lost my knoppix disk.06:05
|QuaD|ohh06:05
zenwhenI can go to a local college and download things but its a hassle.06:06
zenwhenSince they really dont want non-students in there.06:06
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zenwhenI downloaded warty for two weeks.06:06
|QuaD|i go to a uni... with super fast speeds :)06:06
zenwhenNot all of us are so lucky.06:07
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giannicola_here in italy we have 10mbit connections06:07
|QuaD|i have 2 10 mbit connections in my apartment06:07
_LR_hello, where do I find a ubuntu repository list? I need a repository nere me (Portugal) ? tx06:07
zenwhenI suppose we are all lucky in our own ways though.06:07
|QuaD|heh06:07
(bob2/#ubuntu) _LR_: the Archive page on the wiki06:07
zenwhenThough I dont have broadband I do own my own home.06:07
|QuaD|haha... i am 2106:08
zenwhenI am 23.06:08
zenwhen:)06:08
|QuaD|nice06:08
zenwhenThe land here is cheap because it is rural.06:08
zenwhenBut it also means I have to wait a while before broadband makes it out here.06:09
|QuaD|ahh, i live in boston, if my apartment was a condo, it would be about $400,00006:09
|QuaD|and its a small 1 bedroom studio06:09
zenwhenwoa06:09
zenwhen80% of America still uses Dialup.06:09
zenwhenThats pretty amazing.06:09
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|QuaD|i read the slashdot today :)06:09
zenwhenI jsut did.06:09
zenwhenjust*06:10
giannicola_I need help06:10
|QuaD|with?06:11
giannicola_yesterday I installed my ubuntu06:11
danielsf 09:10:33 up 4 days, 20:52, 15 users,  load average: 1.08, 1.27, 0.9706:11
_LR_bob2: i'm on http://www.ubuntu-linux.org/wiki and down't see Archive :(06:11
danielser06:11
danielswrong window06:11
giannicola_but with firefox06:11
giannicola_i don't have flash plugins06:11
DLitedaniels you should really consider to stop drinking06:11
(bob2/#ubuntu) Joe_Powerbook: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Archive06:11
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(bob2/#ubuntu) _LR_:06:11
(bob2/#ubuntu) blah06:11
danielsDLite: don't drink on the job06:13
Tomcat_Can I change this page: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats/view?searchterm=divx when I log in?06:13
x-un-l_LR_, http://glua.ua.pt/mirror/dists/ubuntu/releases/4.10/06:13
giannicola_i don't have flash plugins06:13
giannicola_who can help me?06:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: yes06:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: please don't break it06:13
DLitedaniels: I still want to see those pictures of you table dancing in Spain06:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) giannicola_: RestrictedFormats on the wik06:13
giannicola_how can Iinstall flash plugins in firefox?06:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) giannicola_: as the FAQ says06:13
(bob2/#ubuntu) please read it06:14
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(bob2/#ubuntu) DLite: you really don't06:14
giannicola_ok06:14
Tomcat_bob2: I only want to add that totem-xine is the easiest way for having MPG4... I really miss that.06:14
DLitebob2 I do and daniels promised06:14
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: ok06:15
danielsi don't table dance06:15
DLiteyou would if you were loaded enough06:15
DLiteyour words06:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) well, that's true06:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) 3 beers and he did an x upload06:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) ok, maybe that didn't happen06:17
danielsbob2: lies06:17
(bob2/#ubuntu) but it could have06:17
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awtcmci'm having a lot of trouble mounting my windows partition.  i've followed all of the steps from the web, including changing all permissions, but when i open the mounted drive in nautilus, there is nothing there06:21
(bob2/#ubuntu) ignore nautilus06:21
(bob2/#ubuntu) paste the relevant line from "mount"'s output06:21
Deftdoes anyone know the reason that only one totem instance is allowed?06:22
(bob2/#ubuntu) they have conflicting files06:22
awtcmcthanks, bob2.  i'll do this later if you're around.  currently burning a dvd in k3b.  simply rebooting the system resolved the issue.06:22
(bob2/#ubuntu) and the reason that totem-xine forces ubuntu-desktop out is that totem-xine is not supported06:23
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awtcmcdoes anyone know how to completely remove totem?  i use mplayer and ogle, so i have no need for totem.  when i try to uninstall totem, it says that it must also uninstall the ubuntu desktop06:23
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giannicolabob2 where is the folder of mozilla plugins?06:24
Defthadn't even noticed that... seems pretty stupid really, being able to watch another video without losing your place seems fairly basic06:24
Deftawtcmc, just remove it in synaptic if you really want it gone06:24
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(bob2/#ubuntu) Deft: if totem-gstreamer loses it's place in a video, file a bug06:24
(bob2/#ubuntu) giannicola: /usr/lib/mozilla/ or so06:24
giannicolathx06:24
awtcmcdeft, if i try that, it says it must also uninstall ubuntu-desktop06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) awtcmc: yes, indeed.06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) you can remove ubuntu-desktop if you want06:25
mxpxpodbob2: any luck with herbert?06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) it contains nothing06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) but be aware you're on your own06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) mxpxpod: no06:25
Deftbob2, I mean that you can't watch another video in another instance, because there can't be another instances06:25
mxpxpodbob2: suck06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) mxpxpod: just building my own 2.6.9 package now, in fact06:25
awtcmcwhat happens if i remove ubuntu desktop?06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) (with the sleep patch)06:25
mxpxpodbob2: ah, cool06:25
mxpxpodbob2: and the wlan patch?06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) mxpxpod: yes06:25
mxpxpodbob2: how'd you do that?06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) mxpxpod: it's herbert's 2.6.8.1 upgraded to 2.6.9 with sleep added06:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) and all conflicting patches dropped06:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) so it may or may not boot06:26
Deftawtcmc, you miss out on automatically getting new packages that are included as "defaults" in the future06:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Deft: ok06:26
mxpxpodbob2: haha06:26
awtcmcthat's pretty stupid, to mess with my system just to remove a movie player?  why was ubuntu designed like this06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) awtcmc: please don't call things you don't understand "stupid"06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) 03:23:01 bob2 | and the reason that totem-xine forces ubuntu-desktop out is that totem-xine is not supported06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) if you want to use unsupported software, go for it!06:27
Deftawtcmc, to ensure you get everything you need; and your system stays in a nice state06:27
awtcmcyou're right, but why can't it be simple to remove totem?06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) but be aware that it means you may need to manually fix things in the future06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's TRIVIAL to remove totem06:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) but you're removing a component of the default ubuntu desktop06:28
Deftor just delete the menu entry for that matter06:28
Tsjoklatblah06:28
awtcmcbut its just a package, an app.  not like i'm removing the kernel or anything here06:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) ?06:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) did you not read what I said?06:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) do you understand what actually happens when you remove it?06:28
awtcmcyeah, i would have to manually update my system in the future.  no thanks.06:29
(bob2/#ubuntu) lord06:29
(bob2/#ubuntu) nevermind then06:29
Deftubuntu-desktop makes sure that you always have a functioning desktop and everything you might need; you get rid of that and you're on your own06:29
Tomcat_If I install mplayer, will it remove ubuntu-desktop? :o06:29
Tsjoklatlol06:29
DeftTomcat_, no06:29
Tsjoklatoh ubu won't work anymore if you remove it... really06:29
(bob2/#ubuntu) Tomcat_: no06:29
Tsjoklatit explodes06:30
Tsjoklatwalks off06:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) what Deft said06:30
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(bob2/#ubuntu) hm, I should include the snd_powermac fix too06:31
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ploumHello06:32
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Jointploum: hiya06:32
Moofhi06:32
zenwhenMoof06:32
MoofI have a fresh ubutu (warty) install here06:33
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ploumI'm using ubuntu Hoary, but people on WinXP cannot access my samba shares06:33
jazzkahi!06:33
Jointploum: did you configured the samba right?06:33
Jointjazzka: hiya06:33
Deftploum, cannot see or cannot access?06:33
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ploumWinXP ask for a password and keep the "ok" button greyed until at least one password is entered06:33
ploumBut I didn't set any password06:33
jazzkaDoes ubuntu underestand firewire devices?06:33
ploumJoint, a friend on Gentoo can access my samba share06:34
Deftploum, are you using guest accounts then?06:34
jazzkaI mean, can It manage correctly?06:34
(Treenaks/#ubuntu) jazzka: most of them06:34
ploumDeft, in Samba ?06:34
Jointwell that's with Lin06:34
Deftploum, yes06:34
(alexissoft/#ubuntu) hi06:34
ploumI don't know06:34
Jointalexissoft: hi06:34
jazzkaI would like to buy a hard drive and plug it throw firewire06:34
jazzkaTreenaks, is there any guide or entry in the wiki? or web?06:34
Deftploum, that's how I would do passwordless access06:34
ploumDeft, how can I do that ?  I'm using share-admin to set the thing up ;-)06:35
cardadorploum: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf and add to the share section force user = your username and force group = your username06:36
ploumBut I don't understand why it doesn't work for WinXP, because others Linux have no problem..06:37
ploumcardador, but will they gain write access then ?06:38
cardadorploum: maybe defective operative system? :)06:38
Moofok, how do I get nautilus and my consoles and xterms to display utf-8 filenames?06:38
cardadorploum: yes06:38
ploumcardador, but I don't want it !06:38
ploumI want a read-only share06:38
cardadorploum: im on a network with winxp and win2000 and everybofy writes to it06:38
cardadorploum: then add writable = no06:39
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cardadorploum: dont forget to restart samba after doing the changes06:40
ultrakorneis Smart Battery supported? i need to see the battery charge06:40
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Jointyou do it with /etc/init.d/samba restart;06:40
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adsjhow to list the bugs on the system with apt-listbugs ?06:43
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(bob2/#ubuntu) apt-listbugs doesn't work in ubuntu06:43
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cardadorploum: you can set permissions on your share at applications > syst tools > shares06:44
adsjargh, so there is a way to list the bugs on ubuntu ?06:44
(bob2/#ubuntu) list all the bugs in all the packages on your system?06:44
(bob2/#ubuntu) what for?06:45
adsjah i dunno atm, i'm trying to discover if there is some bugs on my system about the kernel compile problems :(06:45
(bob2/#ubuntu) that really won't help06:46
(bob2/#ubuntu) try asking on the list06:47
adsjwhich one ?06:47
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Moofis there a SWAT package for ubuntu?06:49
Gaarutohi06:49
Gaarutoapprently, i dont have the gdesklets sensor for the 0.31.1 version (hoary)06:50
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Rob|Ubuntuhow do I get KDE 3.3 ?06:50
Rob|Ubuntuapt-get install kdelibs4 ?06:50
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Gaarutowhere can i found them ?06:51
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(bob2/#ubuntu) if you want kde3.3, are you sure you want ubuntu?06:52
Abercrombieyea I still want ubuntu why KDE not good for ubuntu?06:52
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Abercrombienevermind06:52
Agrajagkde's not supported.06:52
Evasohi guys, what kind of wirless network cards are supportend into ubuntu?06:52
Abercrombieonly gnome is supported?06:52
Agrajagyes.06:52
(bob2/#ubuntu) Evaso: antyhing that linux supports06:52
Abercrombieno prob06:53
AbercrombieI just changed my sources to hoary and I did apt-get update, and apt-get upgrade doing06:53
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giannicolabob2: i wrote you something in pvt06:53
Evasobob2: is there a list? because there are some drivers that are not included already in the upstream kernel06:53
PuumbaEvaso, are you looking for a particular driver?06:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) Evaso: ubuntu probably includes whatever driver it is06:54
(bob2/#ubuntu) giannicola: why?06:55
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EvasoPuumba/bob2: www.prism54.org drivers and Madwifi drivers http://madwifi.sourceforge.net/06:56
giannicolabecause of the java plugins06:56
giannicolai read the faq06:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) Evaso: both are in the ubuntu kernel06:56
Evasoi have two netgear cards06:56
giannicolai did all they said06:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) giannicola: if you want help with something, ask in here06:56
giannicolabut it does't work06:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) you don't /msg strangers asking for help, it's just rude06:56
giannicolaok06:56
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Evasobob2: this are also back in the debian kernel?06:56
giannicolai apologize06:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) Evaso: no06:56
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giannicolai can't use java plugins, why?06:58
Tomcat_Weird... when I run xine from "Run Application", I have no sound... when I run it from command line, I have sound..06:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) environment06:58
Tomcat_Mh... okay...06:59
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massis there any plan to make svn packages for 1.1.1? Can I make them and contribute them in some way?07:00
(bob2/#ubuntu) help the debian maintainer07:00
massbob2: ahh, its in experimental on debian. I'll find out why :)07:02
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RuffianSoldierhello bob207:11
(bob2/#ubuntu) hi07:11
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Tomcat_Can I add an application to the Gnome menus?07:20
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(bob2/#ubuntu) applications:// in nautilus07:21
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Tomcat_You seem to be a source of infinite Ubuntu wisdom :P07:22
Genetic_Rejecthi yall07:22
Genetic_Rejectcan someone tell me more about this ubunt linux thing07:23
(bob2/#ubuntu) www.ubuntulinux.org07:23
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Tomcat_Do I need to restart Ubuntu to make the changes in applications visible?07:24
(bob2/#ubuntu) no07:24
ImmeR^I never worked with Linux before, but I want to try it. I have triede knoppix and now I want to install Linux for good.. Is Ubuntu linux good for newbies like me, or should I go Red-Hat?? Please, I need some good advice..07:25
Genetic_Rejectme too ImmeR^ bbut i want to try it now] 07:25
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu is good for new users07:25
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Tomcat_Ubuntu is definitely the best for new users...07:26
jordiImmeR^: go for it07:26
Tomcat_It's totally easy to use, but when you want to hack stuff, you can do it.07:26
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lupus_are there plugins for rhythmbox07:26
lupus_like lyrics shower07:26
ImmeR^:p I am not a hacker (but that is only because I do not know how to do it.. ;) )07:27
Genetic_Rejectim only worried about thing like my games and other win apps , will they work on ubuntu07:27
ImmeR^But thanks.. now I feel ready for going linux...07:27
zenwhenGenetic_Reject, would you be willing to use apps that are very similar to your apps, or do your current apps have to work?07:27
Genetic_Rejectnah similair apps07:28
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Genetic_Rejectwould be fine07:28
zenwhenwhat apps are you mainly concerned with?07:28
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ImmeR^I am concerned about Photo Shop... And Diablo II :p07:29
Genetic_Rejectdreamweaver, flash, office07:29
ixusGiIMO is a great phtoshop alternative07:29
Genetic_Rejectdiablo 2 me aswell i only got that game 2 days ago07:29
zenwhenflash runs is crossover office07:29
lil_anthonyiirc i seen someone run photoshop with wine07:29
ixusBlefish / Screem are good html editors (I think)07:29
zenwhenas does dreamweaver07:29
zenwhenand Open Office is included with Ubuntu.07:30
mxpxpodvi is a great html editor too!07:30
mxpxpodrather, gvim07:30
Genetic_Rejectwat about mah games ,or should i get wine of somthing similair07:30
zenwhenif he uses dreamweaver I doubt he will be happy with vi07:30
zenwhenWhat games do you play?07:30
mxpxpodzenwhen: it's a great time to learn ;)07:30
mxpxpodGenetic_Reject: check out winex... it's a $15 initial fee, and then $5 every month for updates and stuff, which I think is quite reasonable07:31
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mxpxpodGenetic_Reject: and they have debian packages07:31
Tomcat_bob2: No idea what's wrong here but I only after restarting Gnome I got the new entry... :o07:31
zenwhenA lot of games run without it as well.07:31
mxpxpodzenwhen: huh?07:31
zenwhenDoom 307:31
zenwhenUt2k407:31
zenwhenEnemy Territory07:32
mxpxpodthe windows versions don't run in linux07:32
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Genetic_Rejectsorry if i get lost sometime's, but im new to all this linux stuff,so i need plenty help07:32
ImmeR^Me 2...07:32
zenwhenmxpxpod, yes they do. All you need is the files from the windows disks.07:32
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mxpxpodzenwhen: and you don't have to use wine or winex?07:32
zenwhenI installed Doom 3, Ut2k4, and Quake 3 all from windows disks07:33
zenwhenWith free installers07:33
zenwhenAnd dont use winex07:33
zenwhenWhy would I?07:33
Genetic_Rejecthow long does it take to ge tthe cd07:33
zenwhenThey are native ports.07:33
mxpxpodzenwhen: ok, so how do they run?07:33
zenwhenGenetic_Reject, hard to say.07:33
zenwhenmxpxpod, very well07:33
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: it will take weeks07:33
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zenwhenBetter than in windows even.07:33
zenwhenIve been waiting a month and a half.07:33
Genetic_Rejectim inj such a hurry to get rid of this windows crap07:33
mxpxpodzenwhen: no, I mean how do they run... because linux code is different than windows code07:34
zenwhenIf you cna download it over dialup, it would be a lot quicker.07:34
zenwhenI did.07:34
Genetic_Rejectit newer works and when it does its sloooooowww07:34
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: you can download it or get someone else to...07:34
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: your lug may have cds07:34
zenwhenThey run, because you get linux binaries.07:34
vguerrahi all! .. i just install ubuntu 3 days ago .. but i have problems with my laptops temperature, it reaches the max temparature and it turns off07:34
zenwhenYou dont use the windows binaries.07:34
Genetic_Rejectit would take too long on dailup07:34
Genetic_Rejectlug?07:34
mxpxpodzenwhen: and you don't have to pay for the linux binaries?07:34
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zenwhenmxpxpod, of course not. You already paid for the windows binaries.07:35
zenwhenYou just need your key and the files from the windows disk07:35
mxpxpodzenwhen: ah, ok07:35
mxpxpodzenwhen: that makes sense07:35
Genetic_Rejectwats all this about paying for libraries i thought linux if free07:35
zenwhenU22K4 has a linux installer on the disk even.07:35
zenwhenUT2K4.07:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: you can buy cds of ubuntu if you want it quicker07:35
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: or ask someone to burn it for you07:35
mxpxpodGenetic_Reject: linux itself is free... the software that runs on it isn't always free... but most of the time it is07:36
Genetic_Rejecti live in sa, any takers to send me a copy07:36
RuffianSoldierjoin #dualboot everyone, smart folks get ops!07:36
mxpxpodGenetic_Reject: also, free doesn't always mean monetariliy free07:36
(bob2/#ubuntu) RuffianSoldier: please don't07:36
RuffianSoldierdont what?07:36
ixusadvertise07:36
(bob2/#ubuntu) don't pimp other, unrelated, non-technical channels in here07:37
RuffianSoldierits a technical channel07:37
RuffianSoldierand im not pimping it07:37
(bob2/#ubuntu) blah07:37
Genetic_Rejectok who'll send me a copy07:37
Genetic_Reject;)07:37
(bob2/#ubuntu) ask on your local lug list07:38
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RuffianSoldierlug = lesbian until graduation where im from bob207:38
Genetic_Rejectlamo07:38
ImmeR^Just one more question.. I am fond of using the equation in microsoft office.. Is there any similar function in open office??07:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) RuffianSoldier: please try to stay at least vaguely on-topic07:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) ImmeR^: yes07:39
RuffianSoldier:-)07:39
RuffianSoldier=D07:39
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Genetic_Rejectim also going to run things like eggdrops and a irc server from my machine when i get ubuntu07:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) ouch07:41
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zenwhenhuh07:41
zenwhenwho07:41
Genetic_Rejectlol07:42
Genetic_Rejecthuh?07:42
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ixusUbuntu wont play sound or video after update.  "unknown error"07:44
ixusAny ideas?  I don't know where to start07:44
NewComertry playing from terminal07:44
Genetic_Rejectwaht program should i use to play mah music07:45
ixusWhat terminal apps do I have? or do you mean just command rather than icon launch?07:45
(bob2/#ubuntu) "your" music, rhythmbox.07:46
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Genetic_Rejectis it like winamp07:46
ixusmore like iTunes07:47
ixusXMMS is like winamp07:47
Genetic_Rejectah great cause i like itunes07:47
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Genetic_Rejectits an awesome musin program07:47
Genetic_RejectVince-0 , me also from sa07:48
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Vince-0Genetic_reject ! suP!07:48
Genetic_RejectCool and you m807:49
NewComerixus, just launch xmms from terminal07:49
Genetic_Rejectmah first time here trying to learn as much as possible07:49
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ixuswill do :)  Let me fire up the beige box. . .07:49
Vince-0Genetic_Reject: I am a n00b too07:49
Vince-0I know Ubuntu Roxkzerz07:50
RuffianSoldierwell ya07:50
RuffianSoldier:-007:50
Genetic_RejectThats Leet ,hehehehe07:50
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Vince-0Genetic_Reject: Get XMMS 1st, every1 needs music07:50
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Genetic_Rejectbut me is still waiting for me ubuntu copie , so me still running stupid winbloze07:51
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Vince-0kk07:51
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Genetic_Reject~~~~~~~~~~ irc.blabber.net - #distortion the home of the reject.!!!! ~~~~~~~~~~07:53
alindemanUm?07:53
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Genetic_Rejectsorry accident07:53
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danielsGenetic_Reject: please don't s... oh, thanks07:53
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Genetic_Rejectwas ment for another room07:54
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_quizHi,all.  I'm trying out the warty live cd - what is the root password?07:54
ironwolf_quiz: no root, sudo07:54
RuffianSoldieryup!07:54
vguerrathe root account is inactivated by default07:54
RuffianSoldierI was the same "I have no root password!"07:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) _quiz: there isn't one07:55
(bob2/#ubuntu) _quiz: use sudo07:55
_quizOk, sudo su - works ... but apt-get update does not seem to.  I can run apt on the livecd (although temporarily) correct?07:55
_quizI juszt need to change my sources, I assume...07:56
ironwolf_quiz: why?07:56
(bob2/#ubuntu) what's the point of running apt on the livecd?07:56
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_quizironwolf, to see how it works as an audio workstation without toasting a HD.07:56
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RuffianSoldierbob2, why did the folks at Ubuntu choose sudo? why not a "normal" su system?07:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) because sudo rocks07:57
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RuffianSoldieri agree07:58
manojkyou can set the root password yourself if you'd like07:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) and it saves two questions during the install07:58
_quizA (currently windows using) friend would like to try audio editing on a linux box - I heard that ubuntu was a good choice for first switchers...07:58
RuffianSoldierhi Gwildor|work! Gwildor is in #dualboot =D07:58
Gwildor|workhahaha07:58
Gwildor|workI left him there...sorry07:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) please stop pimping your channel07:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) no one cares about it07:58
RuffianSoldiereveryone in there does07:59
RuffianSoldieryou dont know what everyone is thinking07:59
(bob2/#ubuntu) no one in here does07:59
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Gwildor|work_quiz, ubuntu is pretty easy on a newb (me), audio editing though, I have no idea.....unless kristal has a linux version07:59
RuffianSoldiersome of the folks like it and they came from here07:59
(bob2/#ubuntu) well, good for them, but please stop it08:00
_quizkrystal is for sissies. :)08:00
Gwildor|worklol, I don't bdualboot though, I just stopped over, someone plugged it in here08:00
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Gwildor|work_quiz, hmm, what you use then, kristal is great........you must have some magic apps08:00
Gwildor|workno *nix kristal08:01
Vince-0How can I install ATI Grfx drivers in Ubuntu ? any1 ?08:02
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xukunhi08:02
ixus_PCstill no luck with the sound08:02
ixus_PC # xmms /home/kieren/Music/ulysses.mp308:02
ixus_PClibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:02
ixus_PC** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such devic e08:02
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jiveraWhy is universe based on unstable instead of testing?08:03
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(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus_PC: load the oss compatilibity modules08:03
xukuncan somebody tell me how I can what kind of touchpad my laptop uses, I think mine uses some kind of alps touchpad but not sure08:03
Gwildor|workVince-0, the is a binaryhowto on the wiki08:03
Gwildor|workhey!, what happened to bonobo08:04
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ixus_PCbob2:  How would I do that?  ( sorry I'm not very experienced with Linux - I only get my hands dirty when there is a problem & for the most part Linux has been good to me :] )08:04
_quizDoes the ubuntu live cd also work as an install cd?08:04
Gwildor|workI don't think so08:04
xukunit should somewhere in cat /proc ???08:05
Gwildor|workif im wrong ill be flamed........08:05
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ironwolf_quiz: just playing audio? because iirc music player08:05
(bob2/#ubuntu) _quiz: no08:06
_quizironwolf, Audo recording and processing,not playing. :)08:06
RuffianSoldierBradb08:06
(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus_PC: load the snd_pcm_oss module08:06
cenerentolahello there...08:07
RuffianSoldierahoy708:07
cenerentolabob2: i need to break the promise..08:07
(bob2/#ubuntu) ?08:08
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cenerentolain fact after a smart update with synaptic, i rebooted and all went in 640*48008:08
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(bob2/#ubuntu) cool08:08
Genetic_Rejectcan i still use firefox if i intall ubuntu08:09
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: it comes with firefox08:09
danielsyes, it's the default browser08:09
cenerentolanow i checked the XFconf file, and there're no entries for 640 * 48008:09
Genetic_Rejectyes cause i used it on winbloze ,and i think its a wonderfull browser08:10
cenerentolawhat's the problem?08:10
(bob2/#ubuntu) Genetic_Reject: it started on unix...08:10
Gwildor|workbob2, how long did *nix have it before windows got it?......FF that is08:11
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Genetic_Rejecti actually heard about the first time when mark spoke about it on a radio chat program08:11
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(bob2/#ubuntu) it was08:12
cenerentolait was called firebird before08:12
Gwildor|workyeah08:13
Gwildor|workI remember that08:13
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Gwildor|workit was firebird on windows08:13
jiveraIt was phoenix originally.08:13
Gwildor|workmissed that08:13
cenerentolajivera: right08:13
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Deftphoenix was only initially for windows08:13
Gwildor|workstarted at firebird08:13
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(bob2/#ubuntu) as did I08:14
cenerentolasorry: isnt it strange that a smart upgrade can cause resolution problems?08:14
jiveraOh, initially.08:14
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(bob2/#ubuntu) cenerentola: nope08:14
(bob2/#ubuntu) cenerentola: you're using hoary?08:14
Deftit wasn't long before it went cross platform, but at the start it was only planned to be an IE replacement for windows08:14
cenerentolabob2: well no... i learned the lesson now... im a big boy... btw no im using warty08:15
ixus_PCbob2:  Not entirely sure how to load snd_pcm_module  :/08:15
jiveraDeft: That's possible.08:15
cenerentolabob2: it was a security upgrade08:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) cenerentola: then that is a bug if it happened08:15
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(bob2/#ubuntu) ixus_PC: sudo modprobe whatever08:15
Gwildor|workwhat does the ubuntu updater use to upgrade\??08:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) what's an "ubuntu updater"?08:15
cenerentolabob2: who should i speak with to find out what it is?08:15
Gwildor|worklike smart or dist08:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) if you mean synaptic, it uses whatever apt source you configure08:15
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's all based on apt...08:16
(bob2/#ubuntu) cenerentola: ask on the user list08:16
cenerentolabob2: thank you08:16
Gwildor|workbob2, nope, there is a ubuntu updater (or something like that) in the gnome menu, apps----sytem (i think)---the last item08:16
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InvalidSyntaxhehehee08:17
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Gwildor|workbob2, should be underneath TERMINAL08:17
ixus_PCstill can't get audio08:18
(bob2/#ubuntu) configure xmms to use esd08:18
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DeftGwildor|work, that's not in the standard install at least...08:18
(bob2/#ubuntu) also, xmms is a pretty shitty music player08:18
kryme_If I attach a Memorex ThumbDrive to my Ubuntu install, will it auto mount?  If not, what do I need to do to mount it?08:19
Genetic_Rejectbye you guys ill be intouch assoon as i get my ubuntu copy08:19
Genetic_Rejectty for the help08:19
InvalidSyntaxyes, xmms doesnt work worth a !!!!08:19
(bob2/#ubuntu) kryme_: if it's a sensible usb storage device, yes08:19
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Gwildor|workdeft, no it isnt, im on hoary, and I had to install it......dont remember what I had to install to get it, but I was under the assumption that some ppl are auto getting it08:19
InvalidSyntaxbye Genetic_Reject08:19
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Genetic_Rejectcya all soon08:19
Gwildor|workdeft, kinda like gamin.....ppl always say to install it...but I auto got it with my hoary upgrade08:20
DeftGwildor|work, well, if it's the one that several planet.gnome people have been blogging about; it runs upgrade all times except when it knows there's a major version upgrade to do08:20
Deftthen it runs dist-upgrade08:20
Gwildor|workdeft, ok thnx......i prob wont ever use it, was just checking08:21
Gwildor|workdeft, is a dist-upgrade something that I want to do??, or is synaptic smart good enough?08:21
Deftthey're the same08:22
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Gwildor|workdeft, for sure?, everytime I start to think they are the same, someone tells me different, and vice versa08:22
kryme_bob2:  Well, my system isn't adding it, and I don't know how to try to mount it myself.  I wouldn't know what device to try.08:24
Deftwell, I've never actually compared them exactly, but at least they are supposed to do exactly the same job08:24
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Gwildor|workdeft, good enuff08:25
Deftlooks like that updater will be a pretty nice program after it's integrated08:26
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Vince-0How do I get my ATI drivers installed ?08:26
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(bob2/#ubuntu) kryme_: is it a usb-storage device?08:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Vince-0: you already have them installed08:26
Gwildor|workVince-0, did you follow the binaryhowto on the wiki?08:26
Vince-0bob2 : nought, stuff jolts08:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Vince-0: if you mean "How do I install the unsupportable binary-only drivers?", wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:26
fauxis it possible to use the network manager in warty?08:26
kryme_bob2, yes, it's a Memorex USB ThumbDrive 256MB.08:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) pitti: ping08:27
pittibob2: pong08:27
Vince-0kk - Ill take a look08:27
Deftfaux, you're free to try it08:27
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fauxDeft: i did, but it gave me loads of dbus errors :/08:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) pitti: if someone has a usb disk device that isn't getting mounted, which package should have the bug filed on it?08:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) kryme_: oh, wait, is it a NTFS or HFS filesystem?08:28
pittibob2: the best is to use the FAQ and directly send it to me08:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) pitti: ah, cool, thanks08:28
kryme_bob2, unfortunately I have no idea.08:28
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pittibob2: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#usbfirewire08:29
(bob2/#ubuntu) pitti: ah, thanks a lot!08:29
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netmonkdoes anyone know how can i put the calendar as a background?08:29
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afshinhello all, i've clearly posted my question on http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25773708:30
afshinbut haven't got any help08:30
afshinmaybe one of you folks has an idea?08:30
Gwildor|workafshin, post in ubuntu forums...maybe?...sorry, I cant help08:31
afshinis ubuntu forums up?08:31
afshini was having problems a few days ago08:32
afshinoh so it is08:32
Gwildor|workyeah...up now08:32
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triabloq: i installed fluxbox (because i hate the gnome env) but i can't seem to get it into the list of environments & wm's at the login screen. how do i put it there?08:33
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Defttriablo, did you install in from a package?08:33
Gwildor|worktriablo, deft, wonder it that's a bug, someone else had the problem the other day08:34
triabloDeft: no, because apt-get anly features the old stable versiona and i need the newest08:34
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lil_anthonyif you have a directory say firefox that is visible and you want it invisible  i know i could make a directory .firefox and it would be infivisible but do i simply rename the current dir of "firefox" to ".firefox" ? if so what command plz08:34
Gwildor|workahhh.....08:34
triabloGwildor|work: maybe08:34
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Defttriablo, if you used source, it's possible you'll have to set it up manually in gdm08:35
Gwildor|worklil_anthony, try it, if it doesn't work...change it back08:35
lil_anthonysounds like a plan to me08:35
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Gwildor|workSMOKE BREAK] 08:36
lil_anthonyseems to have worked lets see if my symbolic links work08:36
triablohow do i stop the gui login thingy form starting?08:36
Deftlil_anthony, folders/files are only hidden by convention if they begin with a .08:36
triabloi want xext based intil i do a startx08:37
Deftlil_anthony, by adding a . to the start, you are changing the name of the folder as well as making it not show up08:37
pisuketriablo, apt-get remove gdm08:37
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triablook08:37
lil_anthonyok i just noticed that08:37
AbercrombieWhats the recommend filesystem for ubuntu? ext3 or reiserfs?08:37
lil_anthonyso how do i simply change the property on it?08:37
lil_anthonydo i use mv? i'm lost08:38
Deftlil_anthony, you don't, there is no such thing as a hidden file in unix08:38
(bob2/#ubuntu) Abercrombie: ext308:38
lil_anthonyok08:38
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jiveraAbercrombie: ext3's probably a safe bet unless you have some specific need for an alternative.08:38
lil_anthonywell how about this then here is hwat i'm hoping to do08:38
Gwildor|worklil_anthony, just change the folder name, then redirect your link to the new hidden folder08:38
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lil_anthonyyeah thats what i was thinking08:38
lil_anthonydoes the old link go away?08:38
Gwildor|worktry it08:38
triablobrb, start gnome again08:39
Majestic|Linuxthanks bob208:39
Gwildor|workumm, just change the properties of the old link08:39
Deftlil_anthony, links never go away unless you delete them08:39
Majestic|LinuxI should of listen to you because after I upgraded everything to hoary, there was a probem with X server and stuff and coulnt get inside08:39
Gwildor|worklil_anthony, change where it says /firefox to say ./firefox08:39
(bob2/#ubuntu) Majestic|Linux: shockingly08:39
Deftlil_anthony, and you can't "change" a link, you just delete it and make new one with the same name pointing somewhere else08:39
ry00Hi, I have a noob install question.08:39
Gwildor|workdeft, that's what I meant08:40
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lil_anthonylet me try08:40
Gwildor|workdeft, or , cant you just re-direct the old one?, guess it doesn't realy matter....08:40
Gwildor|workry00, just ask.....08:40
Vince-0whats : t-get install linux-686 if you haven't already.08:41
ry00I partitioned my HD with Partition Magic.  In the old version of debian, woody, it recognized the swap and the linux filesystem partitions.08:41
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ry00In ubuntu and sarge, it doesn't recognize it as easily.08:41
Gwildor|workVince-0, apt-get install linux-686, just like it says08:42
ry00By that I mean that with Woody I just accepted three defaults and it worked.08:42
Gwildor|workVince-0, or whatever arch you have08:42
ry00With Ubuntu and Sarge I get the options of [erase whole disk]  vs [partition the drive] .08:42
Vince-0kk08:42
Gwildor|workry00, you get that with ubuntu as well08:43
ry00I've *already* partitioned the drive, and when I choose the [partition the drive]  option, I get lots of confusing options08:43
Gwildor|workhmm, havent done that....ubuntu owns my drive......08:44
Gwildor|workerr, I mean I havent tried to partition with ubuntu, I just let it take over, only ubuntu on the drive08:44
ry00yeah, i get it08:44
ry00if I didn't need windows, i'd just say [erase and use whole disk]  :)08:45
Gwildor|workcan you just quit the partitioner, maybe itll pick up your swap and such?08:45
ry00hmm08:45
Gwildor|workworht a shot, I guess08:46
ry00well, it has an old debian install on it08:46
Vince-0Gwildor|work : linux-686 , I have AMD64, what syntax do I use ?08:46
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Gwildor|workVince-0, not sure.......k7.....maybe 64......idk08:46
jchillerupHello. How do I set my ath0 up to use ipv4 instead of ipv6?08:46
ry00by 'quit the partitioner' you mean go to the next step in the install?08:46
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Vince-0Gwildor|work: kk08:46
Gwildor|workry00, you can change your souce.list and upgrade to warty from woody08:46
Gwildor|workry00, yes, the next step is what I meant08:47
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tyranoi have a 2 part question: 1) how do i get the kernel sources 2) how do i recompile the kernel after patching it08:47
ry00gw, i was having graphics problems -- will upgrading to warty keep those problems?08:48
Gwildor|workry00, hmmm, maybe?!?08:48
Gwildor|workry00, what kinda probs?08:48
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Vince-0Gwildor|work : nay cant get it to work08:48
ry00ones i hoped would just go away if i installed a newer version (e.g. ubuntu or sarge)08:48
ry00like can't get nvidia or vesa drivers to work08:49
ry00i know it works though since i did it with knoppix08:49
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Gwildor|workry00, but you have a working X server?08:50
ry00naa08:50
Gwildor|workahhhh08:50
agenteomy /usr/share/dict/words is a link to an empty /etc/dictionaries-common/words how can I fill it with some dictionary words? I've installed the package dictionaries-common and dict-freedict but I don't if thoose are what am looking for08:50
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Gwildor|workI guess I would say to just reformat you woody install...leave your swap and such.....then go from there08:50
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Gwildor|workry00, move to the next stepp....that is08:50
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ry00i'm worried it will write over my other partition08:52
ry00also08:52
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Gwildor|workoh yeah, I see your point08:52
Gwildor|workI think it only rights changes???08:52
ry00the linux partition is tagged 'do not use' which i should probably change to 'use'08:52
Gwildor|workcan anyone confirm.........08:52
Vince-0ANy1 : whot CD writing apps are good ?08:53
Gwildor|workwrites* changes08:53
Gwildor|workVince-0, for what?08:53
tyrano1) how do i get the kernel sources 2) how do i recompile the kernel after patching it08:53
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Gwildor|workVince-0, what do you want to burn?08:53
Vince-0Gwildor|work : writing CDz, isoz and stuff, music CDz08:53
ry00gw, thanks for your help08:53
melazyboyDoes ubuntu install smbmount by default?08:53
Gwildor|workVince-0, all but music....nautalis....for music I think K3b is the best ATM, for ubuntu that is08:54
melazyboybecause im not seeing it =[08:54
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Vince-0Gwildor|work : thnkz08:54
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Gwildor|workry00, good luck, hope everything goes well08:54
Gwildor|workVince-0, np :)08:55
mvaughnCan anyone help a linix newbie?08:55
Gwildor|workask away08:55
mvaughnDon't shake your head at least I'm trying to move to Linux !!08:55
Gwildor|worklol08:55
Vince-0Viva Linux!08:55
mvaughnI've recently installed Ubuntu on a second PC..and today I added a CDre but I can't see it.08:56
melazyboyCan anyone please check to see if their dist-upgraded copy of warty has smbmount? my box is even showing smb-client being of the newest version08:56
mvaughnoops that's CDRW08:57
RuffianSoldierEveyone, this game is ssooo funny: http://lifegeek.sourceforge.net08:57
Jointgreat.08:58
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kentmvaughn, done the CD show up in Computer in the desktop?09:00
mvaughnThe original CD does but the new CDRW does not.09:01
Gwildor|workkent, I think he added the drive....not a CD09:01
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Gwildor|workoh..i was wrong09:01
Gwildor|worksorry09:01
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lil_anthonyGwildor: if you have a moment could you pm me plz?09:01
ixus_PCI think my sound issues are kernel related09:01
Vince-0Gwildor|work : I cant get anywhere with these ATI drivers....09:01
ixus_PCI'm out of my depth there09:01
kentmvaughn, can you open the cd and stuff? like, is the power connected?  and do you see it in bios?09:01
Vince-0Gwildor|work : synaptic has nothing, I cant find fglrx-driver....09:02
mvaughnYes I can see it in the BIOS and the CDRW tray works.09:02
melazyboyI hate to pester -- but could someone who hasn't intensionally installed smbmount, see if it came with their default and updated install -- I see through the gui they have a tool to mount smb shares, but im not seeing the console utility to achive that...09:02
ixus_PCI'll go back to Slackware for 5 months09:02
Gwildor|workVince-0, idk, I never messed with those, well tried once....broke my X09:03
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Vince-0Gwildor|work : I'm as lost as a fart in the wind09:03
Gwildor|workVince-0, and im at work on a M$ box at work, so I cant check my repos09:03
kentmvaughn, can you open a terminal and run the command dmesg?  that will tell you if linux finds it.09:03
ironwolfmelazyboy: smbmount was in my hoary install, I didn't intentionally install it.09:03
melazyboyGwildor|work: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment from the deb repositories09:03
mvaughnKent . I'll try it and see what happens..09:04
melazyboyironwolf: Hoary install im taking a guess that was before the warthog release? im new to ubuntu09:04
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Gwildor|workmelazyboy, not me, im good, but thnx09:04
Vince-0Gwildor|work : kk , thnkz anywayz09:05
kentmvaughn, dmesg will show alot of stuff, so check for lines with the word "ide" and CD in them.09:05
melazyboyVince-0: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the comment from the deb repositories09:05
melazyboyVince-0: Then sudo apt-get update, and then look for your drivers09:05
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Gwildor|workVince-0, it seems the drivers that you seek are in the universe, and you have yet to enable it09:06
Vince-0kk09:06
Gwildor|workVince-0, you can do it from synaptic, if that is easier for you09:06
mvaughnKent  you weren't kidding about it showing a lot of stuff..I'm checking the lines now.09:06
ironwolfmelazyboy: warty is stable, hoary is testing in debian terms.  Hoary is after warty.09:06
melazyboyGwildor|work: Aucutally im looking that up now they are also in the archive, archive.ubunto.com warty/restricted fglrx-driver 2.6.8.1.3-409:07
Gwildor|workhmmm09:07
Vince-0Gwildor|work : cant find drivers in synaptic09:07
kentmvaughn, dmesg shows all the kernel messages. But you should se something about the CD. Most of the times, the brand shows etc.09:07
melazyboyironwolf: Nice i completly forgot09:07
Gwildor|workmela, windows box, at work........cant really look, err search09:07
Gwildor|workVince-0, did you enable universe?09:08
melazyboyVince-0: Open a terminal, type this 'sudo apt-get update', then type 'sudo apt-get install fglrx-driver'09:08
mvaughnKent  I did find it and it shows the CD & the CDRW09:08
Vince-0Gwildor|work : whots the universe (excuse my n00bishness)09:09
Gwildor|workmelazyboy, he has 64 bit amd, will they work for him? not sure if it matters09:09
kentmvaughn. Oh, wait. I know whats the problem. I think gnome checks /etc/fstab for drives to put in the computer-window in the desktop. So add the drive to /etc/fstab09:09
kentmvaughn, do you know how to do that?09:09
Gwildor|workVince-0, just another repo, unsuported software09:09
Vince-0kk09:09
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mvaughnKent not yet but willing to try09:09
melazyboyGwildor|work: No, I dont belive that would matter09:10
Gwildor|workVince-0, the term UNIVERSE I think is confusing, first time it made me think of like EVERYTHING in the world, I was like no shit its in the universe....lol....universe is just a name for a repo09:10
Vince-0Gwildor|work : E: Couldn't find package fglrx-driver09:10
kentmvaughn, did you see with dmesg what device the cd is on? like /dev/hdd or something?  Just add a new line like your old CD in fstab with that device, and a new mountplace (like /media/cdrom1 or something)09:10
Gwildor|workVince-0, did you sudo apt-get update?09:11
Vince-0yes09:11
Gwildor|workhmmm09:11
mvaughnKent I'll try it and see what happens.09:11
kentmvaughn, yeah, do so.09:11
lemsx1does anybody know if there are packages for GnomeBaker somewhere?09:12
mvaughnKent, thanks for the help. I really appreciate it.09:13
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triablook, now i removed gdm, and now it starts a blank screen at boot. how do i tell it to not start x at all at boot?09:13
kentmvaughn, its ok. I didn't have to do much.09:14
mvaughnKent, Don't speak too soon..I havn't copleted the task yet <grin>09:14
seacydcan anybody help to solve a printer problem?09:15
kentmvaughn, just tell me when your done, and what happens. You might have to restart Gnome (X) or even restart the computer, i  dont know :)09:16
mvaughnKent, thanks I will let you know.09:16
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seacydthe hp4110 just prints with the color inks and not with black. Why?09:16
kentseacyd, youv'e been a bad boy today?  Printers sense those things  ;)09:17
seacydkent: well, he does not see things black and white at least ;-)09:18
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FallenHitokiriseacyd: how do you know ?09:18
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Tomcat_How often may I say how much Ubuntu rocks before you people get annoyed? :o09:19
seacydFallenHitokiri: I am not a psychoanalytic, I just can tell what the printer puts out09:19
FallenHitokiriTomcat_: try to print a document in "grey style"09:20
WWWhat editor behaves the most like gedit, besides gedit?09:20
seacydFallenHitokiri: I did this, it just gets ignored. If I remove the color inks there is just nothing on the page09:20
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FallenHitokiriWW: there is only one true editor... (g)vim! ;) you could try scite09:21
(Kamion/#ubuntu) ok, I hope nobody's expecting Hoary daily install ISO images to work for a while09:21
FallenHitokiriKamion: why not ?09:22
lemsx1WW, yep... gvim... i'm working on adding tabs to gvim09:22
(Kamion/#ubuntu) at least, the change I just made works for me but is likely to break on a lot of systems09:22
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lemsx1WW, notebook tabs that is09:22
(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: switching the hardware detection system from discover to hotplug09:23
WWFallenHitokiri: Yeah, I expected a chorus of vim and emacs... :)  I'm looking for something with standard (to me, anyway) keys, open files in tabs, nice gui-style window to open files, etc.09:23
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giannicolahi09:23
giannicolai have a problem09:23
FallenHitokiriWW: that's gvim. or scite / scientella (also on the scite-page)09:23
WWgedit has a little bug that is becoming too annoying.09:23
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FallenHitokiriKamion: I think I have to try the isos :)09:23
giannicolai don't remember how to mount a win2k fat32 parition09:24
lemsx1WW, what bug?09:24
WWFallenHitokiri: Thanks, I'll take a look at gvim and scite.09:24
lemsx1WW, scite is ancient ;-)09:24
FallenHitokirigiannicola: mount /dev/bla /mnt/win (or with -t vfat)09:24
vguerragiannicola: mount -t vfat09:24
giannicolaok09:24
lemsx1WW, if you are going to use scite, better use Anjuta09:24
lemsx1WW, that's based in scintilla also09:25
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(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: the switch isn't quite complete in anything you can download today09:25
FallenHitokirilemsx1: anjuta is a big lacy *bieb* ;) I think there are to much features and it's basicly for C(++)09:25
WWlemsx1: gedit only runs one "instance"; if you try to edit a file in a different workspace, it pulls gedit into the new workspace.09:25
FallenHitokiriKamion: will the isos be up tomorrow ?09:26
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, yep. indeed. but for C/C++ is heaven09:26
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oeriHey, is there a way to login as root?09:26
lemsx1WW, you can launch gedit differently09:26
FallenHitokirilemsx1: yeah. but I also want to edit my configs, write latex, perl, html, php in my $editor and not only the language of god ;)09:26
giannicolait says WRONG FS TYPE09:26
FallenHitokirioeri: yeah. check the faq09:27
WWlemsx1: Do tell!09:27
seacydregarding my printer problem: when printing form command line with it works. Not though from gedit, OpenOffice,...09:27
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lemsx1FallenHitokiri, hey, nothing wrong about that... i use gvim all the time myself...that's why i'm adding notebook tabs to it.. i'm working with upstream devels on it09:28
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(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: not quite sure yet09:28
trukuloKamion, any plan on freenx on ubuntu?09:28
(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: it depends on other people than just me09:28
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FallenHitokiriKamion: could you send me a memo or something like that if the change is done? (would be really nice :) )09:28
(Kamion/#ubuntu) trukulo: is there some reason I should know?09:28
giannicolait says WRONG FS TYPE09:28
triablono1 able to answer my simple question?09:29
triablook, now i removed gdm, and now it starts a blank screen at boot. how do i tell it to not start x at all at boot?09:29
trukuloKamion, no, not any special reason, but it's a very good program for networks09:29
FallenHitokirilemsx1: yeah... took me a little while to add the tabs, too :)09:29
(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: sorry, don't have time to notify people individually, I'll be doing an Array CD 2 release at some point with hotplug09:29
FallenHitokiriKamion: okay :)09:29
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trukuloonly a question kamion :)09:29
(Kamion/#ubuntu) trukulo: I have absolutely no idea I'm afraid, I mostly do the installer09:29
lemsx1WW, gedit --new-window09:29
mirakanyone uses popfile here ?09:29
agwibowohello09:29
trukulook Kamion , thx for answer09:29
seacydwhat is the difference between printing from the command line or from any software09:29
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, which tabs? notebook?09:29
FallenHitokiritriablo: don't boot up in runlevel 509:29
agwibowoi started mysql on port 3306...09:29
FallenHitokirilemsx1: yes09:29
(Kamion/#ubuntu) trukulo: anything above X I generally have very little clue about. :)09:29
agwibowobut strangely, i can't do telnet 127.0.0.1 330609:29
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, ah, do you have that patch?09:29
triabloFallenHitokiri: how do i change the runlevel i boot in?09:29
agwibowois it the problem with firewall?09:29
trukuloKamion, i'll ask fabbio or daniel09:30
agwibowocan anyone help me?09:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) ubuntu has no firewall by default09:30
kentHave any one tried dcgui-qt and not been able to get the list of public hubs? im having trouble doing that with dcgui-qt from Ubuntu :(09:30
(Kamion/#ubuntu) trukulo: don't hunt down individual developers for a question when you don't know who's appropriate09:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) if it's a firewall problem, it's one whoever admins the machine created09:30
lemsx1WW, when in doubt: gedit --help09:30
RuffianSoldierwhats a good firewall bob2??09:30
(Kamion/#ubuntu) trukulo: check ubuntu-devel mailing list archives, and propose it there09:30
trukuloKamion, ok, so i'll ask in list09:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) RuffianSoldier: none09:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) or shorewall09:30
trukulok09:30
RuffianSoldiernon?09:30
agwibowoso what can possibly cause this problem??09:30
FallenHitokirilemsx1: yeah. but please don't ask me to send it, i'm in my girlfriends house and i have only my zaurus (pda) here09:30
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giannicolai mounted my win2k partition but when the windows opens i can't open the folders, why? And if I click with the right the folders disappear...anybody can help me?09:30
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, Zaurus? Collie? I have one too ;-)09:31
(Kamion/#ubuntu) FallenHitokiri: (mostly, I just can't keep track of people who're interested in things when I don't know them well :))09:31
FallenHitokirilemsx1: no 5500D (the german PDA-Version from Sharp :) )09:31
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, ok. whenever you can, send that patch to me @any server :-)09:31
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, lemsx1@ whatever public address09:31
FallenHitokiriKamion: yeah I can understand this. no problem. I'll check the isos at the weekend :)09:31
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, just kidding, but gmail.com would do09:32
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WWlemsx1: The --new-window doesn09:32
WWooops09:32
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agwibowothe more strange thing is....09:32
giannicolai mounted my win2k partition but when the window opens i can't open the folders, why? And if I click with the right the folders disappear...anybody can help me?09:32
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FallenHitokirilemsx1: remember me when I'm at home... (at the weekend I think). Or when I installed fedora on her system so I can login in my ssh-server :)09:32
agwibowowhen i do netstat -an | grep 3306... it returns no result.09:33
lemsx1WW, :-D worked uh09:33
WWlemsx1: Still checking it out.09:33
lemsx1FallenHitokiri, no probelm09:33
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WWlemsx1: When you "quit", it wants to exit all instances.09:34
agwibowounix  2      [ ACC ]      STREAM     LISTENING     14806    /tmp/cycorp.sock09:34
FallenHitokiriwould someone configure this system? i'm too lacy and i want to work on my perlscript... (like the last 50 hours)09:34
agwibowothat's mysql socket09:34
agwibowoshouldn't it be listening on port 3306 ? as i've specified in the command line??09:34
lemsx1WW, you might want to dig deeper, try using --oaf-private09:34
lemsx1WW, or something like that09:34
agwibowobut doing telnet 127.0.0.1 14806   doesn't work as well...09:34
agwibowoboth gets connection refused...09:34
agwibowovery weird...09:34
RuffianSoldierhow do I configure shorewall bob2?09:34
RuffianSoldiermore like.... where09:35
lemsx1WW, or hit the X to close that instance only...09:35
WWlemsx1: That is probably simplest, I could get used to it.09:35
giannicolai mounted my win2k partition but when the window opens i can't open the folders, why? And if I click with the right the folders disappear...anybody can help me?09:36
lil_anthonyanyone besides me having a problem with firefox 1.0 just dying? what i mean is i'll use tab browsing and then al tlhe sudden no links work everything times out. the only way i can get it working again is to restart firefox09:37
Qerubgiannicola: Bad permissions.09:37
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Qerubgiannicola: Mount with -o umask=foo,dmask=bar09:37
giannicolaso?09:37
Qerubgiannicola: (But not with foo and bar of course, check fstab.)09:37
Qerubgiannicola: Eh. man mount.09:38
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Qerublil_anthony: There was a Slashdot article about that recently.09:38
giannicolathx i'll try09:38
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lil_anthonyok thanks ill go there09:38
WWlemsx1: man gedit doesn't say anything about --oaf-window (or even anything close); the gedit Help file has *nothing* about command line arguments.  Where could I find out more about it?09:39
Qerublil_anthony: I'm not sure if it said anything concrete. It at least stated the problem.09:39
lil_anthonyyou wouldn't happen to have a direct link to it would you?09:40
lemsx1WW,  --oaf-private                          Prevent registering of server with OAF09:40
lil_anthonyi'm trying to find it on slash now09:40
lil_anthonyjust wanted to read it09:40
seacydcan anybody point me to a channel where there are printing experts?09:40
WWlemsx1: Where do you see that?09:40
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lemsx1WW, gedit --help ... gedit 2.8.x here09:41
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WWlemsx1: argh, my bad... I thought "man gedit" would show the help.09:41
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tyranowhere can i find my current kernels configuration09:42
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ironwolftyrano: /boot09:44
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tyranois there a difference between 686 and 386 ;O09:45
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ironwolftyrano: yes 200 ;)  If you have a P4, use 686, if not use 386 is a general good rule of thumb.09:46
ironwolftyrano: I mean 300... yeah.09:46
kentironwolf, math is hard when the numbers get large ;)09:47
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GFXstyLERhi09:48
gwakdoes anybody know how to remove the network drives entries from the desktop ?09:48
GFXstyLERi have a very basic question09:48
GFXstyLERhow can i install a program ? *lol*09:48
ironwolfkent: yeah... it's late. :)09:48
GFXstyLERi downloaded blender and extracted it, but i dont know where i have to put it09:48
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gwaktry computer->System Configuration->Synaptic Package Manager09:49
NewComerGFXstyLER, use synpatic09:49
GFXstyLERsynaptic has only a old blender version09:49
tyranoi have pentium-m :X09:49
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tyranobut ubuntu installed 38609:49
WWlemsx1: FYI: I tried the --oaf-private option, but Quit still closes gedit in both workspaces.09:49
GFXstyLERsynaptic has blender 2.33a and the newest version is 2.35 i guess09:50
GerrathI'm new to debian based systems:  I added universe to my respository and did the command apt-get install kde.  I got a list of packages that could not be installed.  What am I missing?09:50
tyranoso now i will use 686 config from kernel sources, but i want to make sure the configs are the same, which they arent cuz i used the diff command, but i dont want anything to break when i recompile the patched kerneL :|09:50
ironwolfGFXstyLER: warty or hoary?09:50
GFXstyLERwarty09:50
kentGFXstyLER, firefox (if you used that) has a default place to put things. Check that out, or search for it with the search-tool.09:51
lemsx1WW, ah, that's bad you might want getting the source for it and reading from it what else you can do to stop that... (or recompile the software without that)09:51
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GFXstyLERyes i know where i put the blender tar archive and where i extracted it, but how can i run it know?09:51
GFXstyLERdoesnt there exist some program folder like in windows *g* ?09:52
kentWell,  if you cant figure that out, then you most like should not go that way either.  What are the new feature of blender in that package that makes you want to use it instead of the one in ubuntu?09:52
ironwolfgfxstyler: yeah, /bin and /usr/bin09:53
ironwolf:)09:53
WWlemsx1: I think I can get used to using "Close" (or hitting the little x).  Reading source just to get an editor to Just Work the way it should is a bit deeper than I want to go.09:53
GFXstyLERok thx :D09:53
kentGFXstyLER, have to checked if there is a configure file in the archive? if so, open a terminal and run ./configure  and after that you run 'make' and 'make install' and then your ready.09:53
GFXstyLERok09:53
s0cksback09:54
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ironwolfgfxstyler: looks like a more recent version of blender is in hoary if your feeling adventurous.09:54
GFXstyLERthere are 2 files in the archive, they have both purple symbols with no extension on it09:55
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WWlemsx1: By the way, thanks for the --new-window tip.09:55
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lil_anthonyquestion: anyone know right off where in evolution mail you can change the setting to keep/remove mail from the server iirc i seen it when setting up the account with evolution09:55
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tyranoomg im rebuilding teh kernel ;O09:56
NewComerdamn, my downloaded warty-live-i386.iso has bad md5sum09:56
NewComershould have used bittorrent09:56
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s0ckstitbread?09:57
WWlemsx1: Any idea how I can add the --new-window option to the gedit command that is run by Nautilus when I select "Open with 'Text Editor'"?09:57
kentGFXstyLER, im sorry. But it sounds like you are better of using the blender in ubuntu.09:58
GFXstyLERin the usr/bin/ folder programs have the same symbols09:58
afoniton the announcement in the forum's that 'all development work, and latest packages' will only be available in the development release of ubuntu, does that mean that those of us on the 'stable' 4.1 will not get the latest inkscape / blender /scribus packages, but will need to be on the ubutu development release?09:59
NewComerany way to not redownload large corrupted files?09:59
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socommHello, how to add session to GDM?10:00
afonithere is a copy of the statment that I am questioning  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=252210:01
GerrathCan I get help from someone who has sucessfully installed kde on Ubuntu?10:01
socommGerrath: what you need?10:02
Gerrathsocomm, I have installed Ubuntu and added the universe to the repository but when I do apt-get install kde I get a list of dependencies that can't be met.10:03
Gerrathsocomm, I'm fairly new to apt-get.10:03
socommGerrath: have you `apt-get upgrade'10:03
socommGerrath: try to install via synaptic, which is a frontend for apt10:04
GerrathI tried synaptic as well.10:04
NewComerGerrath, what about apt-get update10:04
NewComerupdate not upgrade10:04
WWIn Nautilus, "Open with 'Text Editor'" runs gedit by default.  How can I add a command line option to the gedit command?10:04
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socommNewComer: he probably has, since synaptic ask you to upgrade on start up.10:04
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socommWW: "Open With"10:05
NewComersocomm, it does?10:05
socommGerrath: `apt-get update' just to be safe.10:05
WWsocomm: I would like to actually change the behavior of the 'Text Editor' menu item, if possible.10:05
socomms/upgrade/update10:05
socommWW: gconf-editor10:06
Gerrathuhm, I had run apt-get update before but I don't think I had the right respositories selected.  I went into Synaptic and selected them and now it is updating.10:06
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Gerrathand now KDE seems to be installing :)10:06
socommGerrath: cool, you have you update anytime you modify /etc/apt/source.list10:06
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Gerrathahh.10:07
GerrathI guess I'm in the newbie catagory again :)10:07
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GerrathThanks for your help.10:08
(bob2/#ubuntu) RuffianSoldier: edit the files in /etc/shorewall/10:08
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WWIn Nautilus, "Open with 'Text Editor'" runs gedit by default.  How can I add a command line option to the gedit command?10:19
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WWsocomm suggested gconf-editor, but I can't figure out what to change in there.10:19
jdubWW: computer > desktop preferences > preferred applications10:19
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WWjdub: Thanks, that looks *much* easier! :)10:23
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plogginhi10:25
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ploggincan someone tell me how to make all the folders i open appear on one single window rather than each on one windows?10:26
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(bob2/#ubuntu) http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/133.html10:27
WWploggin: Or this: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.018450772610:28
gwakApplication->Configuration Editor->[Apps->Nautilus->preferences->always_use_browser] 10:28
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lemsx1WW, no problem... i'm packaging phpslash for public release (.deb) :-) almost done10:31
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plogginthanks! ;)10:31
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FireCatDoes anyone know of any way to prevent dhcp from updating your resolv.conf?10:32
tyranohey has anyone had a problem, when booting, lots of PNP errors and a fatal "hw_random" error10:33
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WWtyrano: Take a look at the last few questions here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions10:34
tyranok10:34
htaccessFireCat: chmod 400 /etc/resolv.conf? :)10:35
kentFireCat, isn't that dhcp's job?  either you use dhcp or not? To turn if off,  edit /etc/network/interface or use the gnome network program?10:35
tyranoahh ok so its no biggie10:35
tyranocool10:35
FireCathtaccess: thanks10:35
FireCattyrano: It is normally something you can turn off10:36
tyranoyeh10:36
tyranothe hw_random10:36
tyranodunno about the pnp10:36
htaccessFireCat: kents advice is better than mine, my suggestion may work but proably isnt the right way to do things10:36
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htaccessin fact my it should at leats be 44410:37
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htaccess400 will probably break most name resolution on your box10:39
lil_anthonyanyone here use totem player?10:39
FireCatOk, I just found a package called resolvconf, that seems to do it10:40
s0cksI am making a package for audio/video studio10:40
FireCatAnyone ever worked with that one?10:40
s0cksLMAO! I posted on a forum, and I used the term "Hacking" and someone mistook it for "cracking"10:41
(bob2/#ubuntu) that's forums for you10:41
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s0cksI just love the fact that people think they are 'technologically advanced' but don't know the difference between hacking out some code and cracking into a database.10:43
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s0cksSadly enough, it was forum admin and he threatened me.10:44
s0cksThen I set him straight and he tried to backpedal.10:45
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david__trying to reconfigure my xserver for anew video card10:45
(bob2/#ubuntu) s0cks: the ubuntu forums?10:45
lil_anthonyis there a way to get rid of the bigbrother crap in totem media player (meaning the list of recently played files)?10:45
(bob2/#ubuntu) hahahahahaha10:46
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kentlil_anthony,   ;)10:46
lil_anthonyi just couldn't stand that crap in windows so i figure there has to be a way to do it in linux10:46
lil_anthonyi'm guessing a config file but not sure which one10:47
lil_anthonyhey kent10:47
s0cksbob2 : No10:47
(bob2/#ubuntu) ah10:47
s0cksNoone using linux could possibly be stupid enough.10:47
kentlil_anthony, you can delete the list after each time you've watched porn.  Go to computer -> recent documents -> delete list. That one will delete the list in totem aswell (i think, it sais that it deletes the list for programs aswell)10:48
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lil_anthonyhaha :010:48
lil_anthonythanks for telling everyone i view porn i per shat it10:48
s0cksOMG@10:48
s0cksSomeone ragged on me for 'viewing' porn and not watching it.10:48
lil_anthonyhaha10:48
s0ckslil_anthony thanks for telling everyone i view porn i per shat it10:48
lil_anthonyhell isn't that why we buy pcs?10:48
s0ckscrap10:48
s0ckslol10:48
gwaklil_anthony:  you can use mplayer from the commandline and then of course wack your .bash_history file10:49
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lil_anthonycool i don't want folks like kent to view my quality porn it might spoil them for life10:49
s0ckslil_anthony : Don't forget to delete history and cookies!10:50
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(bob2/#ubuntu) lovely10:50
ImmeR^I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop, but cannot use my mouse or my touchpad. Anyone have an idea how I fix it? (This is my first time trying linux)10:51
lil_anthonyi don't know i just don't like my tracks being recorded its not so much of porn but thanks that worked out great10:51
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lil_anthonydidn't know it effected totem too10:51
gwakImmeR: what kind of laptop do you have?10:51
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ImmeR^Medion10:51
ImmeR^Just a plain and normal laptop ;)10:52
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gwakImmeR: what is the make/model apple/ibm/dell/compaq ?10:52
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ImmeR^The model is a medion.. Not very known brand10:53
Gwildor|workImmeR^, just googled them, look aight, check out the disney comp though....hahaha10:54
s0cksImmeR^ : Search the drivers page for a linux trackball driver.10:54
tyranois the default sources.list ok ;O10:54
ImmeR^what drivers page?10:55
Gwildor|worklaters guys10:55
Agrajagtyrano: I would add universe and multiverse, and the debian-marillat repository.10:55
Gwildor|workwork is OVA10:55
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tyranowhat?10:55
tyranowhat are those10:56
Agrajagtyrano: open /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor.10:56
Agrajagit explains universe.10:56
AgrajagYou can add multiverse yourself by placing multiverse after universe in those two lines.10:57
tyranooh ok10:57
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Agrajagdebian-marillat has stuff like an mp3 decoder for gstreamer, and libdvdcss10:57
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Agrajagdeb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main10:57
FTTPUbuntu a trademark of SCO10:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) NO10:57
FTTP<grin>10:57
gwakImmer: try googling for Medion <MODEL NUMBER> linux mouse10:57
FTTPSCO ownes linux or so they claim10:57
(bob2/#ubuntu) the gstreamer mp3 decoder is in warty10:57
tyranoyou put a space before unstable?10:57
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ImmeR^okay... thanks.. I will try that10:57
Agrajagbob2: Is it? I couldn't play mp3s in rhythmbox without gstreamer-mad10:58
(bob2/#ubuntu) marillat has an mp3 encoder10:58
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(bob2/#ubuntu) gstreamer0.8-mad, which is in ubunut main10:58
Agrajaghmm10:58
Agrajagthen why isn't it installed by default?10:58
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ajmitch_odd, some packages are in the sources list for universe (warty), but binary packages aren't built10:58
s0cksbob2 : The admin got flamed by about 30 different people.10:58
tyranoshould one upgrade to hoary which is buggy or stick with warty ;O10:59
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gwakwow ubuntu doesnt have 'tidy' as a package drag11:02
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GFXstyLERhi11:03
Plukhiya11:03
GFXstyLERdoes somebody know a good c++ ide for ubuntu ?11:04
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gwakGFXstyLER: vi ;-] 11:04
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GFXstyLERcan i just search it in synaptic? *g*11:05
socommGFXstyLER: Anjuta.11:05
FireCatGFXstyLER: I've not used it myself, but you may want to take a look at anjuta11:05
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GFXstyLERi cant get anjuta to work11:05
socommWhat's the problem?11:06
GFXstyLERmake** no target .. blabla *g*11:06
socommGFXstyLER: are you building Anjuta from source?11:07
FireCatGFXstyLER: Do you have build-essential installed?11:07
GFXstyLERno i got it from synaptic11:07
GFXstyLERi guess not, whats that? :D11:07
gwakGFXstyLER: i heard Eclipse makes a nice java/c++/whatever ide11:07
socommGFXstyLER: You'll need to start a new project or import one, otherwise Anjuta will try to build a binary via make when in fact you don't have a Makefile.11:08
GFXstyLERok thx ill try it11:08
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GFXstyLERif i get c++ to work then there is no need for windows anymore ;) that would be cool11:09
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Matt|meh11:10
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Matt|i just totally hosed my gentoo box ;p11:10
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Matt|maybe i should put ubuntu on it instead :)11:11
treyh0you hosed it when you put gentoo on it11:12
Matt|nah11:12
Matt|it was working lovely11:12
malte`:|11:12
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ramzez_hello everyone11:13
Matt|it's still working11:13
Matt|just can't find any commands11:13
gwakmatt: make sure that ubuntu has most of the sw you use -- the gentoo repository is huge11:13
AgrajagMatt|: so uh, fix your $PATH?11:13
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Matt|gwak, *grins* apt is bigger11:13
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AgrajagMatt|: maybe in debian11:13
Matt|Agrajag, no it's not that, i removed glibc11:13
socommFluxbox 0.90.10 is hot as heck.11:13
ramzez_i was wondering how i can put modprobe ndiswrapper so it enabled at the boot time ?11:13
Matt|yeah in debian11:13
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AgrajagMatt|: oh gg11:13
AgrajagMatt|: ubuntu's repository is somewhat smaller11:14
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Agrajagthough with universe and multiverse it's pretty close11:14
hypa7iaMatt|: obligatory gentoo reference: http://www.eghetto.ca/~msviolet/Humour/gentoo.jpg11:14
hypa7ia:-)11:14
treyh0Matt|: only difference is if you want to spend 8 hours to install something, or 8 seconds11:14
Agrajaghypa7ia: more like www.funroll-loops.org11:14
Matt|treyh0, yeah i'm happy with 8 hours11:15
treyh0cool11:15
GFXstyLERok i installed build-essentials, created a new project in anjuta, compiled it(it does fine) but if i press "generate" it keeps saying this error11:15
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malte`treyh0, nothing but openoffice needs a 8 hours compile11:15
malte`and there's openoffice-bin anyway11:15
socommWhat's the error?11:15
socommmalte`: don't forget the 3+ gigs of HDD space.11:16
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hypa7iaAgrajag: that too :-)11:16
GFXstyLERits in german, should i translate it to english?11:16
socommGFXstyLER: of course.11:16
Matt|socomm, oh yeah like ubuntu is really slim on packaging ;p11:16
malte`it was not a problem even with my 8G HD :)11:16
socommMatt|: I'm talking about the build process ...11:16
malte`err.. partition11:16
GFXstyLERmake:*** No Targets set and no >>make<< control file found. End.11:16
GFXstyLERor something like that11:16
Matt|socomm, ok11:16
treyh0nothing individually11:17
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tyranoi want to remove rhythm player, but it says it has to remove ubuntu desktop as well, is that going to fuck up gnome?11:18
Matt|tyrano, nope go ahead11:18
treyh0no tyrano11:18
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(bob2/#ubuntu) it does mean you won't get new updates to the ubuntu desktop system11:19
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socommGFXstyLER: that means that you haven't generated a Makefile.11:20
NewComerhow does ubuntu afford all these free cds requests?11:20
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Matt|NewComer, ubuntu is bankrolled :)11:21
socommNewComer: by smuggling drugs. :^P11:21
GFXstyLERhow can i generate a make file?11:21
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NewComerseriously11:22
Matt|I was serious11:22
Matt|http://www.markshuttleworth.com/11:22
siimocan i do a haory install without downloading warty cd?11:22
hypa7ianot yet siimo11:23
Matt|siimo, there is a hoary live cd somewhere, but dunno where11:23
socommGFXstyLER: just create one by hand, it's not that hard.11:23
siimosomewhere?11:23
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's not a live cd11:23
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's a pre-alpha test install cd11:23
Matt|bob2, ok11:24
NewComerMatt|, so this guy/organisation/company is rich or what?11:24
socommGFXstyLER: run a web search on how to create Makefiles11:24
Matt|sounds like a live cd to me11:24
GFXstyLERok i did, thx :D11:24
Matt|bob2, how are you liking london?11:24
socommGFXstyLER: good luck.11:25
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MFenwould the person responsible for naming ubuntu distributions please stop?11:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: it's nice...got to do more touristy stuff than last time, which is good11:26
MFeni mean, "HOARY"?  come on.11:26
Matt|great11:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) MFen: why?11:26
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Matt|bob2, favourite thing?11:26
tyranohow do i add stuff to the gnome applications menu ;O11:26
Matt|tyrano, right click inside the menu you wanna change,11:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: booze at service stations11:26
Matt|tyrano, then choose add new item or something similar11:26
danielsbob2: but not Coopers11:26
(bob2/#ubuntu) daniels: we just have to find it11:27
Matt|bob2, i see you've got to the root of our culture already11:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) it's a challenge11:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) the challenge makes it all the tastier11:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: hah11:27
mazzabranother newbie question11:27
siimowhat repository is kernel-image in ?11:27
Matt|coopers?11:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) siimo: linux-image is what you want11:27
mazzabron startup l0 doen't have an entry at route table.11:27
Matt|siimo, linux-image11:27
danielsbob2: right11:27
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: a good australian beer...daniels finally found one place in england that serves it11:27
mazzabrI must add it by myslef.11:27
siimois it renamed to linux-image?11:27
GFXstyLERok so i can do it like this "make -main.cc" or something like this?11:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) siimo: yes11:28
Matt|omg: there must be millions of aussie pubs11:28
mazzabr# route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo11:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: apparently all they have is Fosters11:28
Matt|LOL11:28
Matt|awesome11:28
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(bob2/#ubuntu) I'd rather drink even Carlsberg than Fosters11:28
mazzabrhow can I make this automaticly at startup?11:28
Matt|bob2, that's a serious statement11:28
(bob2/#ubuntu) mazzabr: it should be added already11:28
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siimobob2, VB11:28
mazzabrbob2, it's not.11:28
danielssiimo: ... dude.11:28
Matt|LOL @daniels11:29
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Matt|bob2, daniels, drink some english beer while you're here for crying out loud11:29
mazzabrlo section at /etc/netwokr/interfaces11:29
siimolinux-image is not under : http://mirrors.wamug.org.au/ubuntu/pool/main/l/11:29
mazzabrauto lo11:29
mazzabriface lo inet loopback11:29
mazzabrnothing more.11:29
siimodaniels, what11:29
mazzabrbob2 is it right?11:29
Matt|mazzabr, looks alright to me11:29
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danielssiimo: vb.11:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: we did last time11:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) Matt|: we worked our way across all the aps11:30
mazzabrMatt|, although the following entry is missing after boot:11:30
(bob2/#ubuntu) taps11:30
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Matt|mazzabr, that is what i have too11:30
mazzabr27.0.0.0       0.0.0.0         255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo11:30
Matt|mazzabr, not sure why sorr11:30
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mazzabrI'll boot again.11:30
siimocan someone give me the exact packagename for the kernel?11:30
mazzabrbrb11:30
danielsMatt|: we've been doing a tour of the 'real ales'11:30
Matt|bob2, that is why ubuntu is so inspired... you bunch of boozers11:30
Matt|daniels, *grins* good on ya11:31
(bob2/#ubuntu) haha11:31
danielsMatt|: i fail to understand how it can be simultaneously 'real' and warm11:31
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Matt|*laughs*11:31
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(bob2/#ubuntu) haha11:31
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Matt|damn aussies11:31
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Matt|what part of town are you staying in?11:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) earl's court11:32
siimobob2, Matt| like you said linux-image? i cant find it11:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) siimo: linux-image-2.6 or so11:32
(bob2/#ubuntu) but you have it installed already11:32
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Matt|siimo, how are you looking at it?11:33
Matt|*for it11:33
siimois it in the main repositroy?11:33
(bob2/#ubuntu) yes11:33
(bob2/#ubuntu) and installed by default11:33
s0cksthe main suppository?11:33
farruinnHey, I just installed gxine (totem-xine wasn't working), but I was wondering, you probably have to have a proprietary driver for wmv's, right?11:33
siimoMatt|, im looking in http://mirrors.wamug.org.au/ubuntu/pool/main/l/11:33
Matt|siimo, not good11:34
mdzsiimo: what are you looking for?11:34
Matt|siimo, try "apt-cache search linux-image |grep linux-image11:34
(bob2/#ubuntu) anyhoo, hometime11:34
siimothe kernel package11:34
Matt|nite bob211:34
siimoMatt|, i havent installed ubuntu11:34
Matt|siimo, oh11:34
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Matt|siimo, why are you looking for it?11:34
siimoim just checking versions11:35
mdzsiimo: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.8.1/11:35
Matt|siimo, i'll send you em in PM11:35
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siimooh its linux-source11:35
siimothanks11:35
mdzthe directories are named for the source package, and contain all of the binary packages built from that source11:35
siimono 2.6.9 in haory yet?11:36
Matt|dont think so11:36
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socommsiimo: no.11:38
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mazzabrbob2, as I told, after boot ma routing table is like this:11:40
mazzabrKernel IP routing table11:40
mazzabrDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface11:40
mazzabr200.100.11.71   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0 ppp011:40
mazzabr0.0.0.0         200.100.11.71   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 ppp011:40
mazzabrno lo reference11:40
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luc1f3rWhat program can I use to unRAR in linux???11:41
stuNNedhow do i add a font?11:41
(HrdwrBoB/#ubuntu) luc1f3r: unrar11:41
(mjr/#ubuntu) luc1f3r, unrar-nonfree from multiverse11:42
luc1f3rawsome11:42
luc1f3rthanks11:42
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mazzabranother doubt.11:42
mazzabrhow can I install xmms?11:42
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hypa7iamazzabr: it's in synaptics :-)11:43
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luc1f3rmjr: HrdwrBoB: where can i get those programs?11:43
mazzabrhypa7ia, I tried # apt-get install xmms11:43
luc1f3ri searched "apt-cache"/"apt-get"11:44
mazzabrE: Package xmms has no installation candidate11:44
luc1f3rand icouldn't find either11:44
jchillerupIs it a common problem that ubuntu has difficulties in finding DHCP servers?11:44
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stuNNedto add a font i just drop it into ~/.fonts ?11:44
(mjr/#ubuntu) luc1f3r, you need to add the multiverse repository to apt sources.list11:44
luc1f3rhow do i do that?11:44
hypa7iamazzabr: do you have universe enabled?11:44
IchaBOBhi - another linux noob joins the channel =P11:45
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hypa7iawelcome IchaBOB, you're not the only one :-)11:46
Matt|hi IchaBOB welcome11:46
Matt|IchaBOB, yeah there's this guy called hypa7ia who hasn't got a clue11:46
IchaBOBheh11:46
=== hypa7ia <-- not a guy :-p
Matt|sorry11:46
=== hypa7ia has some clue, too. tho not much :-)
Matt|i meant guy in a strictly gender neutral sense11:47
hypa7iaheheh11:47
IchaBOBhaha11:47
Matt|and i was just kiddin11:47
luc1f3rmjr: what is the command to add multiverse pkg?11:47
hypa7iameh, it's a fiar guess around here :-)11:47
IchaBOBanyone here from Anandtech?11:47
Matt|luc1f3r, you can open synaptic package manager and go to "settings --> Repositories" and activate multiverse (i think)11:48
luc1f3rokay, thanks11:48
(mjr/#ubuntu) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/helpcenterhowto.2004-10-20.341450654311:48
(mjr/#ubuntu) (multiverse)11:48
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(mjr/#ubuntu) a little reading up goes a long way11:49
Matt|mjr, very true. also a lot of reading goes nowhere tho, it depends ;)11:49
IchaBOBi read one of the articles on the wiki but i don't get it to work right ;)11:49
IchaBOBview ntfs partition on different drive11:50
IchaBOBno files listed, tho the partition seemed to get mounted11:51
IchaBOBmy fstab reads:11:51