[12:01] sivang: Just thinking about what I will contribute next. [12:02] sivang: I added to the FAQ recently and, with the help of hornbeck, I was able to upload it, but I got a message that the file I was uploading was no longer there. It could be that the message was specific to the message I included with the upload (not sure how to describe it. [12:04] sivang: Who is my best bet to tell me if it uploaded okay. ChrisH? plovs? hornbeck? Whose in charge (hehe)? [12:07] WE've just had a nice earthquake here [12:08] <__daniel> WOW? [12:08] <__daniel> where was that, enrico? [12:08] Hello. Elmo asks for a timescale when the first failed login reportedly happened [12:08] __daniel: Italy, Emilia Romagna (middle-north) [12:08] <__daniel> wow [12:09] People, let's tell Elmo: when is the first time you had a failed login in the wiki? [12:09] <__daniel> enrico: i had problems (and this crappy error message about 2 hours ago) [12:10] __daniel: do you remember the error message? [12:11] <__daniel> "connection ... unexpectedly" [12:11] <__daniel> so no wiki-error [12:11] <__daniel> more a http error === skyrider [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:15] 00:12 yeah, ok thanks. ssl broke - I'm trying to figure out why [12:18] The firemen are on their ways on the wiki, then [12:18] <__daniel> COOOOOOL [12:18] Here instead everything seems quite again after the earthquake (except a fagiano (a big big bird) that got upset by his tree-bed shaking and complained loudly for a while) [12:20] <__daniel> enrico: i never experienced an earthquake before [12:22] __daniel: try logging in again [12:23] <__daniel> *REJOICE!* [12:30] <__daniel> am i not supposed to use [12:30] <__daniel> = bla [12:30] <__daniel> and [12:30] <__daniel> == blubb == [12:30] <__daniel> in the wiki texts ? [12:31] With moin formatting, you use "= title =" [12:31] <__daniel> ah... ok [12:31] <__daniel> hmmm [12:31] <__daniel> doesnt really work [12:32] <__daniel> <--- as dumb as it gets wikily-speaking :-) [12:32] Did you select "Moin formatting" at the bottom? [12:32] <__daniel> "structured text" === D0wnXcaST [56732@modemcable094.185-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:34] <__daniel> hmmmmmmm :-/ [12:36] __daniel: well, just select "Moin formatting" (the last option) instead [12:36] <__daniel> there is no such option [12:36] __daniel: uh? Let me see.. [12:36] <__daniel> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/academicinvolvement [12:36] __daniel: "MoinMoin markup" [12:36] __daniel: it's the last option [12:36] gh!! [12:36] It's not there on your! [12:37] It's not there on yours! [12:37] <__daniel> *STRANGE* [12:37] <__daniel> i'll make it html then ;-) [12:38] that's no moon... [12:38] __daniel: is that a wiki page? It's got a name in all lowercase [12:38] it's a.. Document [12:38] <__daniel> d'oh [12:38] <__daniel> hop i can i delete [12:51] <__daniel> hope [12:51] click the contents tab, scroll till you find it, check the box and click delete button at the bottom [12:51] it's right at the end.. batch number 6 [12:51] <__daniel> sorry for messing around :-/ [12:51] not your fault [12:51] I don't think those other content types should be available in this folder [12:51] <__daniel> seems i cant delete it [12:51] <__daniel> only rename and change state [12:51] so you can see it at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/folder_contents?b_start:int=500 - but no delete button ? [12:51] sivang, ChrisH: around? [12:51] <__daniel> i'll "undo" it [12:51] good idea [12:51] <__daniel> hmm... blows up the "undo"er [12:51] just so I understand - you can see the listing, but not the delete button ? [12:51] <__daniel> exactly [12:51] enrico : yes [12:51] and what happened when you click plone's undo link ? [12:51] <__daniel> Error Type MultipleUndoErrors [12:51] <__daniel> Error Value Undo error 0000000000025507: Undo error 0000000000025507: no previous record [12:51] <__daniel> Request made at 2004/11/24 23:45:44.117 GMT [12:51] sivang: I started the docteam-tools work as I said in the list, and I'd like to svn-commit it somewhere [12:51] <__daniel> Error Type OverflowError Error Value long int too large to convert to int Request made at 2004/11/24 23:46:48.100 GMT [12:51] enrico : what is it? [12:51] sivang: can I just go on and commit is as a new directory in Hornbeck's repository? === D0wnXcaST [56732@modemcable094.185-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [12:51] enrico : give that a try if not, just mail hornbeck , is this the deb pacakge with the utilitites? [12:51] sivang: see my mail in reply to Nick Loeve in the list, subject "Guidelines for writing?" [12:51] __daniel: ugh [12:51] does it do this every time you click it ? [12:51] sivang: and also, could you please tell me the commit URI to access subversion? [12:51] enrico : could you tell me how do I poll it out of the svn config? [12:51] <__daniel> sm: i tried different combinations and started to undo one by one [12:51] ah I see, you got this when undoing something [12:51] sivang: svn info from inside the repository [12:51] that's not too unusual.. zope/plone can't always undo things [12:51] <__daniel> sm: yes :-) [12:51] URL: http://69.155.172.150/faq [12:51] Repository UUID: 1e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9 [12:51] Revision: 59 [12:51] Node Kind: directory [12:51] Schedule: normal [12:51] Last Changed Author: plovs [12:51] Last Changed Rev: 59 [12:51] Last Changed Date: 2004-11-23 18:07:01 +0200 (Tue, 23 Nov 2004) [12:51] I have to go shortly, I think the quick solution is for me to delete this for you and restrict the content types so people don't accidentally add documents in this folder [12:51] <__daniel> hmmm is there any wiki operator, who could delete it? :-) [12:51] <__daniel> sm: ahhhh that sounds good [12:51] just grab a copy of your text first, ok ? [12:51] enrico : can't find your mail, could you resend to me so I can take a look? [12:51] <__daniel> sm: i did [12:52] <__daniel> sm: stupid me :-) [12:52] deleted [12:52] <__daniel> sm: great [12:53] thanks for the information [12:58] <__daniel> sm: am i supposed to change the (quite generic) wiki page name? [12:58] sivang: forwarded [12:58] enrico : thnks [12:58] <__daniel> is this "wiki_page.2004-11-24.3894835681" in order? [12:58] Magnitude 5.2 richter (www.themeter.net/sism.htm) [12:58] <__daniel> enrico: WOW [12:58] And cool enough, information spread quickly over instant messaging and other internet chats rather than in the usual info channels :) [12:58] <__daniel> ha... :-) [01:02] __daniel: if you use the plone add item link at the top, yes - give it a real name [01:03] but I recommend you use the wiki create form down at the bottom instead [01:03] or start by creating a WikiLink in the usual wiki way [01:03] by editing the page you want to link from [01:03] <__daniel> i did it :-) [01:03] good good [01:04] <__daniel> now i'll write to -devel and -users for additional ideas/comments [01:19] <__daniel> i guess that's enough for today... [01:19] <__daniel> i'm off to bed [01:19] <__daniel> have a good night, guys :-) === __daniel [~daniel@td9091bd7.pool.terralink.de] has left #ubuntu-doc [] [01:24] http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsww/Quakes/usrfcl.htm [01:27] enrico : was it felt? [01:28] sivang: yes, it's the one I mentioned in the channel before [01:29] wo, everything is ok? [01:29] Here yes [01:29] Near the epicenter, maybe less === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:16] night! [02:38] Good night everyone! === George^D^Work [~chatzilla@203-173-44-118.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:08] hi all === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-69-155-172-150.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:10] hello [03:12] man this version of xchat is ugly [03:12] h === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:51] hey plocs [03:51] plovs [03:51] :-) [04:19] hornbeck: arnt all versions of xchat ugly [04:20] the one I was using the other day was not [04:20] I just reinstalled hoary and it is very ugly === Hoodster [~alan@adsl-223-220-238.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:54] the warty one is ugly === Hoodster [~alan@adsl-223-220-238.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:03] Hi all! I have a quick question. I attempted to upload to the repository and it appeared to work. What is the best way to confirm it? I am still a bit green with svn. [05:24] just svn update and see if the revision goes up [05:24] that is how I do it :-) [05:24] see you guys later === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc === George^D^Work [~chatzilla@203-173-44-118.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === skyrider [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sivang [~sivang@80.179.93.130.forward.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu-doc === falco [~Jail@a212-113-181-115.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc === smurfix [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc === asw [~Alexander@node-423a728a.bos.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Hoodster [~alan@adsl-223-220-238.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === boglot [~logbot@mentors.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-doc === sm [~simon@lsanca1.ar5-4.15.64.42.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:57] cya all === hornbeck [~hornbeck@adsl-69-155-172-150.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:07] hello? [07:10] you guys sleep to much :-) [07:39] night === silbs [~sbsm0084@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lulu [~lu@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lulu [~lu@host217-37-231-28.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:23] morning all :o) === plovs_ [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:29] hi guys! [10:29] networking is *hard* [10:30] let's see how long i'll be online this time [10:38] plovs_:hey Alex! [10:39] lulu: morning, how are you today [10:39] Great :o) how are you? [10:40] rather busy [10:40] plovs_: Is there anything you waiting for from me - I have a long to do list and may have forgotten... [10:40] besides wiki and svn move (James Troup) [10:42] lulu: i (just) forwarded you a mail from james, wiki move is done, so that's nice [10:42] will james be in barcelona? [10:43] plovs_: awesome...and yes - he's a great key Canonical guy! [10:44] nice, it will be easier to get stuff done if you know and thay know whom they are talking with [10:45] for the rest, as far as i'm concerned you're home-free, no jobs waiting, afaik [10:49] lulu: you're using a mac, right? [10:49] plovs_:home free - I wish :o)....and yes - using a Mac laptop G4 [10:49] why? === Presskopp [~Presskopp@145.253.220.190] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:11] hi [11:30] Presskopp: welcome! === George^Deka [~george@093.b.008.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:02] hi all [12:02] i broke my ubuntu [12:04] hi George^Deka [12:05] what happened? [12:06] i installed firefox from hoary, now when the system boots it does not load gdm instead i get a curses screen telling me x is already running on 0 do you want to try it again on 0 or on another session [12:07] hmmm. [12:07] i assume that notonly firefox but other packages from hoary have been installed? [12:08] yes some libs [12:09] cant remeber which ones [12:09] but thinking about it maybe libprobe [12:10] and dial-up hell is no good, cant dist-upgrade [12:10] what happens when you press +f7 when that curses-screen occurs? === plovs_ [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:11] maybe gdm starts... [12:12] didndt try alt-f7 [12:12] okay. [12:12] you could try to reinstall gdm. [12:12] good idea, i eneded up getting in going f1, then logging and startx [12:13] did it work? [12:13] i have to go to lunch with my colleagues. will be back in 30 minutes. sorry. [12:14] yeah that worked, im in now [12:14] k cya [12:14] prob off by then === skyrider_ [~skyrider@kid.stu.cn.ua] has joined #ubuntu-doc === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:39] hi enrico [12:39] i love your hostmask :) [12:43] hi! [12:44] George^Deka: :) this came kind of automatic [01:04] re [01:25] HI ALL! [01:25] oops [01:25] the caps [01:26] hi sivang [01:26] sivang: Hi, AOL user. :) [01:26] ChrisH : hi :) [01:26] Hey Presskopp , fisrt time on the -doc channel? [01:26] hey lulu [01:26] yes [01:26] sivang: hiya :o) [01:26] [print "Hello, ", user for user in /who] [01:26] need to improve my idling-skills... ;o) [01:27] Hey Hoodster [01:27] ChrisH : heh [01:27] So, the old wiki is moved? [01:28] Hi enrico, what's up? [01:29] sm : Hi Simon, would you care for bits of Plone/Meduca questions? :) [01:47] sivang: I hadn't believed it... but python really makes many things easier than in perl. Drawback: the source is still readable. ;) [01:48] Hi Sivang: Hi ChrisH: [01:49] ChrisH : well, this is the one feature I just cannot seaize to astonish by - the lanugage drives you to write readable code [01:49] Hoodster: hey... :) [01:50] Hoodster : hey again hoodster, how's work coming? :) [01:50] Chris: Good. [01:51] ChrisH: Sorry for taking so long, it can be hectic here (hehe) [01:51] ChrisH: I uploaded a file earlier this week and I am not sure if it worked. I got a strange message. How do I tell if it uploaded okay? [01:51] Hoodster: Who do you tell? I'm home this week and still my to do list shrinks slowly. :) [01:53] ChrisH: I know what you mean. Not only am I working full time, but I am preparing to make a big move (relocating). [01:53] Hoodster: full time for Ubuntu? :) [01:56] ChrisH: hehe, no not full time for Ubuntu. I don't have that aspiration. I like being a volunteer. However, if they paid me what I get now, I just might consider it (hehe) [01:56] Hoodster: Hehe. I would probably still stay at my current employer. It's nice to work for Ubuntu. But I rather have coworkers around me than doing a "virtual job" all the time. [02:11] ChrisH: What is nice about Ubuntu? Just curious (hehe). I know nothing about the company (Canonical?) [02:11] Hoodster: The company seems to stay in the background as much as possible (Would be distracting if a commercial sponsor dictates what volunteers had to do.) [02:11] ChrisH: Thank you for the introduction to the Ubuntu team. It was a great read. [02:11] sivang: Hi! I was having lunch [02:11] Hoodster: you are welcome :) [02:11] Hoodster: I like the code-of-conduct in ubuntu. I was flamed once too often in Debian. This hasn't happened here. [02:11] Hoodster: I like that it's focusing on the end-user, has regular releases and the community is a lot smaller (still). [02:11] ChrisH: I agree. The group is very cordial to others. However, I have never been really involved in a volunteer effort like Ubuntu. [02:11] ChrisH : you should have seen it in the early days before preview release :) it mas MUCH smaller, and so quiter...ahh memories...:) [02:11] ubuntu-devel didn [02:11] ChrisH: Yes, it is important to get involved in the beginning, when the pond is small. [02:11] Hoodster: It's quite fun. Contribute as much or little as you like. Nobody forces anyone to do anything. Just if you take a certain task you are asked to do it in time. :) [02:11] even exists [02:11] Hoodster: Like... you could bring me another cappuccino. ;) === enrico brings a cappuccino to ChrisH [02:11] enrico: Ah thanks. That was close... [02:11] an interesting bit I found on uusers: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/06/28/indemnification.html === ChrisH has never had a DD bring him a beverage before [02:11] What better of an italian DD to bring you a virtual cappuccino? [02:11] Well, Christian Surchi would be even better [02:11] He's the maintainer of "cappuccino" [02:11] I suggest you all apt-get install cappuccino [02:11] It's *wonderful* ! [02:11] enrico: I had it running at work... but my boss wasn't stupid enough to believe me I really work. :) [02:11] enrico: I like the BSOD screensaver a lot more. Boss: "oh, your Windows crashed again? well, better get working on it." [02:11] ChrisH: lol! :) [02:11] ChrisH : what's the pkg name for the screen saver? [02:11] sivang: xscreensaver? [02:11] sivang: It's in the xscreensaver package that comes with ubuntu. Just select the BSOD saver [02:11] I'm in love with that screen saver as well [02:11] and with apt-get moo [02:11] moo? [02:11] ChrisH: just run it... [02:11] (as user, if you don't trust me) [02:11] ARGH! [02:11] /rofl/ [02:11] ChrisH: read at the end of apt-get --help [02:11] rofl^2 [02:11] ChrisH: now try aptitude --help [02:12] Awww.. :) [02:12] ChrisH: and of course aptitude moo [02:12] This APT has Super Cow Powers. [02:12] There are no Easter Eggs in this program. [02:12] ? [02:12] :))) [02:12] And I wonder why Sarge is not yet released... [02:12] This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers. [02:12] hahahaha [02:12] Hey guys, I seem to have forgotten the command that will update my local files. I thought is was svn update, but I don't think that is correct. Can anyone spare a hint? [02:12] ROTF [02:12] L [02:13] Hoodster: svn up [02:13] Hoodster: that's right [02:13] how do I run cappuccino? [02:13] sivang: command line [02:13] ChrisH: I get the message "Won't delete locally modified file 'install-issue.xml' what does that mean? [02:14] Hoodster: the file has been deleted in the repository but you changed it... subversion saves you from having your changes being lost === enrico GOT IT [02:15] 1) dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig [02:15] enrico: btw... what's your plan regarding Debian? Are you still contributing there or are you migrating completely? [02:15] 2) Enable bitmapped fonts [02:15] 3) Install xfonts-terminus [02:15] 4) Set the monospace font to terminus === enrico can now have decent non-antialiased fonts in gnome-terminal!! [02:16] ChrisH: Oh, no, I keep contributing to Debian [02:16] ChrisH: I actually like Debian a lot and I'd like it to be able to move past its problems, and to help that [02:17] ChrisH: It has been deleted? But I updated that file (hehe). Now I have to figure out which file to transfer the change. Oh well (hehe) [02:17] enrico: Good to hear that. I will probably need you again as a moral encourager in the future. :) [02:17] enrico : xfonts-terminus is for all locales? [02:18] ChrisH: :) [02:18] sivang: probably not, unfortunately [02:18] sivang: wait a sec, I check my spam folder [02:18] enrico : :) [02:18] Hoodster: Just take a look at the new structure. You probably just need to do a little cut'n'paste. I changed the whole structure so I couldn't be 100% backwards compatible. Sorry about the additional work. [02:19] enrico: hmmm... Terminus looks a little ugly here :( [02:19] it has cyrillic, chinese, japanese, but I can't see hebrew so far [02:19] ChrisH: strange [02:20] ChrisH: It really isn't a problem. I was trying to be humorous in a sarcastic kind of way, which probably doesn't work very well in a chat (hehe). When you say the new structure, do you mean the 'usersguide.xml' file? === enrico doesn't understand much of the font mysteries of X [02:20] enrico: monospace is still a lot more readable here... the spacing looks smoother [02:20] Hoodster: yes, sir [02:20] ChrisH: My problem is that monospace gets antialiased, and this makes everything blurry. If I could find how to avoid antialiasing on monospace, I'd be super-happy [02:21] enric : error: "Font `-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-15' is not defined" [02:21] enrico: problem: terminus was antialiased, too! [02:21] ChrisH: I don't see the part that has installing non-free software. What happened to that? [02:21] enrico : do you know where I can find that font? [02:21] enrico : (this is for emacs) [02:23] enrico : btw, Martin Michlmayar is doing a very interesting research for his PhD , habe you had chacne to read some of the papers? [02:23] Hoodster: in the userguide? [02:26] sivang: apt-get install xfonts-terminus [02:26] sivang: no, I haven't read tbm's papers yet [02:26] ChrisH: I think I am out-of-touch on what has happened over the past week (things move quickly,hehe). Do you mean that there are two parts to the FAQ? A Userguide and the original FAQ? [02:27] enrico : installed the terminus pacakge.. === enrico is about to go out [02:27] I should stay away no more than 3 hours [02:27] ok, c'ya soon enrico! [02:28] hey, as the topic is that fonts-stuff... [02:29] on debian- and ubuntu-systems some programs have that ugly big fonts. [02:29] can i fix that issue with dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig also? [02:34] Presskopp: it's probably a question which has more luck in #ubuntu; you may also want to explain better what do you intend with "ugly big fonts", maybe posting a link to a screenshot [02:34] ChrisH: The reason I ask about the status of th FAQ is that I can't open it with yelp. I almost feel lost (lol). [02:34] enrico: mmmkay. thx. :o) [02:42] Hoodster : warty/hoary? [02:43] sivang: I use warty. [02:44] Hoodster : ok, have you checked out the recent version of the userguide.xml ? [02:44] (including all it's subtrees) [02:53] sivang: I think so. But I always wonder if I have the most recent version. I did do a svn update, but I don't know if I am using the most up-to-date repository. (hehe) === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:58] Hoodster : what is the problem with your yelp? does it inform of any error? [03:01] sivang: Thank you for replying. I think things will get confusing quickly. So, I must step back and explain a little. I think part of the problem is me (hehe). First, I can open the user-guide.xml file okay with yelp. No problem there, so I think yelp works. I only have a problem opening the faq.xml file (no error message, just freezes). [03:15] Hoodster : no prob :) I think the old faq.xml should not be used anymore, as we have transsited to the new layout, however you can send me that file (I do not know from where to check it out) the file I'll try and see if my yelp eats it [03:15] Hoodster: oh, it works with yelp here [03:16] ChrisH : should it be used anymore , the old faq.xml ? [03:18] sivang: nope, should be deleted in the repository anyway [03:20] ChrisH : ok, wanted to make sure my answers were correct. [03:23] ChrisH: sivang: I do appreciate all the replies. I think what I will do is a complete checkout and see if I have better results. [03:23] Hoodster : ok, no prob. We try :) [03:24] Hoodster: good idea === Presskopp [~Presskopp@145.253.220.190] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:26] ChrisH: sivang: I seem to have failed to write down the url to the repository. I think it started with a 19xxxx. Can you provide it? [03:28] Hoodster : Path: . [03:28] URL: http://69.155.172.150/faq [03:28] Repository UUID: 1e033ed4-87e8-0310-8703-d68c7bbd86c9 [03:28] Revision: 59 [03:28] Node Kind: directory [03:28] Schedule: normal [03:28] Last Changed Author: plovs [03:28] Last Changed Rev: 59 [03:28] Last Changed Date: 2004-11-23 18:07:01 +0200 (Tue, 23 Nov 2004) [03:29] sivang: Thanks! [03:29] Hoodster : no prob :) [03:31] sivang: ChrisH: More question. This repository is very, very different from my local directory. There is no faq xml file. Should this be so? [03:31] cd parts [03:31] Hoodster :hmm, I must consult my svn expert here, ChrisH ? [03:32] what about a "svn info" or a "svn status"? [03:33] maybe one might see something interesting within that information? [03:34] Hoodster: that's right [03:34] Hoodster: I changed the *whole* structure of the document. So nothing is where it was before. [03:34] Presskopp: That is a good tip. That is a good way to what the repository URL is. [03:35] ChrisH: So, there is no FAQ file anymore or it is in a different repository. Which is correct? Or is there another? (hehe) [03:35] Hoodster: The FAQ has been merged into a user guide. [03:35] ChrisH: I like the new structure. I am just having trouble orienting myself to the info that was there (hehe) === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:37] Hoodster: check out the README [03:37] ChrisH: I will do that now. [03:37] Hello all [03:38] hi hornbeck [03:38] Hi hornbeck [03:38] hI h0rnb3ck [03:39] ChrisH: I read the README file and I didn't see info that answers my questions. (hehe) But I should read that file often, good thing to do. [03:42] ChrisH: I can't find the non-free info that was in the older faq.xml in the usersguide.xml. If it is there, let me know and I will keep searching. If it is not, then perhaps this info is no longer desirable. 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