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danielserrrrrrr ...12:03
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daniels(hoary-chroot)daniels@davis:~/kernel/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-2.6.8.1.4 $ grep '#include' /usr/include/asm/setup.h12:04
daniels#include <asm-m68k/setup.h>12:04
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danielspowerpc is screwed!12:07
daniels(hoary-chroot)daniels@davis:~/kernel/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.8.1-2.6.8.1.4 $ zgrep 'setup.h' Contents-powerpc.gz | grep asm12:07
danielsusr/include/asm/setup.h                                     devel/linux-kernel-headers12:07
danielsusr/src/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-3/include/asm-ppc/setup.h     devel/linux-headers-2.6.8.1-312:07
sivanganybody know if GNOME samba gui interface borked?12:07
sivangit seems to not be able to find me workgroup anymore12:07
seb128which app ?12:08
sivangseb128 : when doing network://12:08
seb128which version of samba and libgnomevfs2-0 ?12:09
sivangseb128 : will tell you in a sec.12:09
sivangseb128 : libgnomevfs2-0 :  2.8.3-5ubuntu1 12:10
mdzdaniels: there's a bug in bugzilla about that, iirc12:10
sivangseb128 : ii  samba          3.0.7-1ubuntu6 a LanManager-like file and printer server fo12:11
sivangii  samba-common   3.0.7-1ubuntu6 Samba common files used by both the server a12:11
sivangseb128 : I am using samba from warty, hoary one borked completly on me..12:11
seb128sivang: do you have a /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libsmb.so ?12:11
mdzdaniels: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272812:11
sivangseb128 : -rw-r--r--  1 root root 23700 2004-11-25 15:09 /usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libsmb.so12:12
seb128sivang: ok, that's ok (gnomevfs was bugged due to samba some time ago)12:12
seb128sivang: so dunno12:12
danielsmdz: *twitch*12:12
sivangseb128 : maybe I should have installed the libgnomevfs from warty as well, to allow it to work with samba of hoary?12:14
seb128sivang: that mean switching all the GNOME package to the warty version, good luck12:15
sivangseb128 : ahhhhh12:15
sivangseb128 : :-)12:15
sivangseb128 : ok, I'll make it work , for real now.12:15
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sivangseb128 : do you know anything of authentication problem with nautilus when accessing shares with user authentication on samba?12:50
seb128basically samba support is crap12:50
seb128alex doesn't know a lot about samba and has not windows network to test it12:58
sivangseb128 : who's alex?12:58
seb128s/not/no/12:58
seb128the gnomevfs main hackers12:58
seb128and the nautilus maintainer too12:58
sivangseb128 : ok, they hang on the gnome-love || gnome-hackers? Where can I bug them? :)12:58
seb128bug alex about what ?12:58
seb128send any patch on the list12:58
sivangseb128 : help them test ask them about the bugs etc..12:58
sivangseb128 : ok, I will. tnx :)12:58
seb128sivang: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-vfs-list/2004-November/msg00010.html12:58
seb128you can read the recent thread12:58
sivangseb128 : tnx again!12:58
seb128np12:58
seb128s/the/this/12:58
sivangseb128 : the strange thing here, that it's missing the authentication dialog when tying to log on into one, but when I right click the share, the auth dialog suddenly appreas, however the right menu prevents you from doing any typing in the auth dialog , so I figured this may have something to do with nautilus gui or it's communication with smb auth.12:59
seb128no idea...12:59
sivangseb128 : then the right mouse button menu stays on, and I need to do killall nautilus to get a gold back of my desktop.12:59
sivangseb128 : ok, I'll write that list maybe01:00
danielselmo: please install l-k-h from ~daniels/l-k-h in davis's hoary chroot01:04
danielselmo: (scared yet?)01:04
elmoerr, why?01:04
danielselmo: because asm/setup.h includes asm-m68k/setup.h, which funnily enough doesn't exist on powerpc01:05
danielselmo: (creating a hoary-crack chroot may be useful)01:05
mdzdaniels: what's this for?01:07
danielsmdz: remember the bug you just assigned me?01:07
danielsat least, I think you did01:08
danielsyes, you did.01:08
danielshttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=272801:08
danielsasm-ppc/setup.h is just #include asm-m68k/setup.h, basically, so I pretty much just inlined it01:09
danielsditto traps.h, which was in the same situation01:09
danielsbut yes, if I can get l-k-h fixed, then I can test the l-r-m build on powerpc01:12
danielsand close a bug while I'm at it, at 0013 on Saturday night01:12
elmoso how is inlining it the right fix?01:14
elmoor are you not actually trying to fix 2728?01:14
danielsdo you have a better idea?01:15
elmodid you read the bug?01:15
elmohttps://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2728#c301:15
mdzdaniels: yes, but you mentioned it well before that01:15
mdzdaniels: before you knew about that bug, apparently01:16
danielselmo: i'm working on the least-invasive principle01:16
danielsmdz: yes, this is for l-r-m (madwifi is perfectly capable of building on both powerpc and amd64)01:16
mdzhmm, so it is01:17
mdzthere's a bug about the amd64 half of that01:17
mdzyou can have that one, too, since you're working on it anyway01:18
danielsmdz: yes, which is marked as being closed in the changelog; you can d.s@c.c/PENDINGUPLOAD it if you like01:18
danielsyeah, amd64 already works (sitting in concordia:~daniels)01:18
danielss/works/builds ok/01:19
danielsmdz: are you happy with elmo/herbert's suggestion?01:22
danielselmo: thankyou for your input01:22
bob2(*cough*2.6.9.*cough*)01:23
danielsbob2: look at the lkh version number01:23
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Matt|hey bob2 you guys got a tv in that house?01:34
Matt|you should check out channel 3 - english c-list celebrities in the australian bush being idiots01:34
bob2um, yeah01:34
elmokdelibs4-dev | ubuntu-artwork01:35
elmo*BOGGLE*01:35
bob2hahha01:35
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GotD0tanybody know why after upgrading to hoary my system is slow as hell?01:40
mojohas anyone seen pitti recently?01:40
mojoGotD0t: it's normal, it's still buggy01:40
bob2GotD0t: install ubuntu-desktop01:40
Matt|GotD0t, have you installed gamin?01:40
GotD0tMatt|, whats that?01:41
Matt|GotD0t, it is a replacement for fam, which is removed01:41
Matt|?01:41
GotD0tMatt|, no i haven't01:41
GotD0tMatt|, is that why?01:41
Matt|yup probably01:41
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Matt|daniels needs a hug01:42
GotD0tbob2: whats ubuntu-desktop01:42
GotD0twhy Matt|01:42
Matt|his quit message01:42
bob2GotD0t: a package you should have installed01:42
GotD0tbob2, will it help?01:42
bob2GotD0t: yes, it will bring in gamin01:42
GotD0tMatt|, after installing gamin do i need to do anythign else?01:43
Matt|nope01:43
Matt|*laughs* ubuntu-desktop installs 61 new packages on my system01:43
GotD0tit wanted to remove fglrx-control and fglrx-driver... somehow that seems wrong01:45
bob2meh01:45
bob2or just install gamin01:45
Matt|;)01:45
GotD0ti did bob2 01:45
Matt|perhaps gamin should be brought in by another package as well as ubuntu-desktop01:47
GotD0tMatt|, perhaps it should be brought in along with the upgrade01:47
Matt|that's what i mean01:47
bob2if you remove ubuntu-desktop, you need to do this stuff manually01:47
GotD0tMatt|, yea... because it was ridiculously slow... i couldn't burn a CD and talk to someone in gaim at the same time01:48
Matt|hmm... i think its naive to expect everyone to put up with all the packages in ubuntu-desktop. However EVERYONE needs gamin right?01:48
bob2no01:48
Matt|well all gnome users anyway01:48
bob2only people using ubuntu desktops ;-)01:48
Matt|grrr damn you and your deliberate obtuseness01:48
bob2there could be a good reason to install it, somehow01:48
Matt|:p01:49
GotD0tany of you know why I cannot run 3D games after my upgrade?01:49
Matt|*laughs*01:49
Matt|GotD0t, 3d graphics acceleration is not workin01:49
Matt|you need to get that working01:49
GotD0twell it crashes X01:49
Matt|GotD0t, probably you should remove fglrx-control and fglrx-driver like it said ;)01:50
GotD0tMatt|, really?01:50
GotD0tMatt|, ok01:50
Matt|GotD0t, wait for confirmation from someone else01:50
GotD0tMatt|, oops...01:50
Matt|GotD0t, what is your graphics card?01:51
GotD0tMatt|, 9700 Pro01:51
Matt|what make01:51
GotD0tATI01:51
Matt|i think that xorg has its own drivers and so you won't need those non-free ones, but i'm not 100%01:51
GotD0twell i hope so01:52
GotD0ti installed xserver-xorg... do i need to restart X?01:52
Matt|you haven't done that yet?01:52
Matt|reboot the whole thing after a major upgrade is probably not a bad idfea01:52
Matt|cross your fingers tho01:53
GotD0tMatt|, well would you consider xserver-xorg to be a major upgrade?01:53
Matt|GotD0t, you've just upgraded to hoary?01:53
GotD0tMatt|, not today...01:53
GotD0tMatt|, i had already rebooted after upgrading01:53
Matt|well xorg comes with hoary01:53
GotD0twell xorg-common was installed with it01:54
GotD0tbut not xserver-xorg01:54
Matt|ok restart x01:54
GotD0tk01:54
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danielselmo: please install l-k-h b-ds in concordia chroot, comment on proposed 2728 fix, and install package in davis:~daniels/l-k-h to chroot if sensible.02:37
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GotD0tanybody have dual-head configured for hoary?03:41
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tsengholy crap, new monthly pr0n update05:19
tsengs/crap/craaack05:20
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calcanyone happen to know about the ide chipset driver loading late issue on ubuntu warty?07:27
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fabbionemorning guys08:39
calcfabbione: hi08:40
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Matt|mjg59, around by any chance?11:47
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jdubthom: around?12:36
Kamionany reason we don't have "install gamin" in HoaryUpgradeNotes? we just say to remove fam and portmap12:42
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KeybukKamion: dep of ubuntu-desktop12:53
KamionKeybuk: see #ubuntu, HoaryUpgradeNotes should document things for people who don't have ubuntu-desktop installed too12:59
Keybukah01:00
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danielsgnar01:11
danielsmdz: it appears that Synaptics touchpads happily respond to ALPS queries01:11
danielsmdz: as well as normal Logitech mice01:11
danielsmdz: i'm very much inclined to just ditch synaptics-alps-support.dpatch01:11
sivangKamion : is a daily iso of hoary suitable for laptop install? :) what's state is it in?01:15
Kamionsivang: you can try, but I haven't tested since the last big round of changes01:15
Kamionstill in flux01:15
Kamionfeel free to use it if you don't mind if it breaks :)01:15
sivangKamion : ok, well, then I'll install warty and upgrade, this path I already taken and familiar with :)01:16
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mvo_amu: the kde-3.3.1-2 FTBFS seems to be fixable with a additonal b-d on "libxinerama-dev"01:47
danielsmvo_: don't forget libxau-dev and libxdmcp-dev also, iirc01:47
danielsi sent a mail about it, but used the wrong From, blah01:48
mvo_daniels: so it awaits moderation now?01:48
danielsyah01:48
mvo_who is doing the moderation? mako?01:49
danielsjdub, iirc01:49
danielsi'll just send another one with the right from01:49
amumvo_: nope, you've to apply many selfwritten patches01:51
danielsamu: ... what?01:51
danielsyou need to revert the debian-pic-shlibs patch or whatever it is01:52
danielsbut that and proper build-deps should do it01:52
amudaniels: name of some of your xlib changed :)  01:52
danielsyes, so just delete debian/patches/debian-pic-shlibs.patch, or whatever it is01:52
amudaniels: not such easy01:53
danielshow not?01:53
Matt|guys I can't boot either the new 2.6.8.1 kernel in hoary, nor the 2.6.9 test kernel. I get a kernel panic straight away, with vfs error, unable to mount root on unknown block (0,0) or something similar. can someone help me with my grub?01:55
bob2configure grub to use an initrd01:56
Matt|bob2, problem is that i don't understand the grub config for this 2.6.9 kernel01:57
bob2it will be the same as for the 2.6.8.1 one01:57
bob2but with a different number at the end01:57
Matt|bob2, the 2.6.9 line is commented out and it says in the wiki to leave it commented out01:58
Matt|its really weird01:58
Matt|can i PM you the menu.lst?01:58
bob2#flood01:58
bob2and this is a #ubuntu thing01:58
amudaniels: i still got some errors ex. on kdm, the fast solution for me was, not to use kdm. Sure if you invest some work in it, you can fix them, but i've total no time for it now.   02:06
danielsamu: kdm needs libxau-dev and libxdmcp-dev02:06
amudaniels: and probably it was cause haggai said, he'll fix it.02:07
amudaniels: yeah you told me this before ;)02:07
amudaniels: sure it's a easy part, which someone must invest, but why i should fix it, i'm overloaded with work, it works for me, and haggai takes care about it, why i should invest my limited time for it? I just said in my mail, it isnt such easy you can solve the problem in 5min, cause of xorg 02:09
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Keybukrofl02:10
KeybukBeen using Sun's Java Desktop System as my day to day machine. It's surprisingly decent. Basically GNOME with alot of purple02:10
haggaiamu: btw I'm sitting in the same room as daniels at the moment :)02:10
amudaniels: give haggai a clout from me :) 02:11
Matt|*laughs*02:12
danielsamu: dude, OOo takes longer to build than X02:12
danielsamu: there's no way I'm punishing the poor bastard further02:12
amudaniels: *g*   02:13
amudaniels: nope i packages kde before, and if i cant solve it in 5min. you cannot do it also :) so if i say you need some time, you need it 02:13
danielsi know a little about packaging kde ...02:14
amuyeah i know ;) 02:14
amuwe bat a pizza ? 02:14
amus/bat/bet02:14
amuaehm let say a nice dinner in spain 02:15
amudaniels: ok? that a deal?  02:17
amuhaggai: he started? 02:17
haggaiamu: I'm making a chroot...02:22
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ograguys....i am playing with a simplified services tool but i am nit sure what should be in the list of manageable services.... any suggestions ? : http://www.grawert.net/services.png03:18
sivangogra : looks nice, you're working on it?03:19
ograyes, currently....it has no backend...03:20
ograi am not sure if ssh should be in there03:20
sivangogra : oh well, the backend part could be relatively easy to implement, couple of calls to /etc/init.d/<service> {stop|restart|start} ?03:21
sivangogra : have you seend what gst offers in that regard?03:21
ograyes, i thought about invoke-rc.d03:21
ograsivang: way too heavy in my opinion....03:21
sivangogra : Ah, I see what you mean :)03:22
ograyou know my bootoptions tool....i could put in a real load of grub options, but i only want to squash the common tasks....no real admin tools, just simplification as much as possible.....03:24
sivangogra : I see, seems nice and would probably help the clueless users to start services :) however I do see a place for gst in a larger setups, or in the less home more corporate deployments.03:26
ograsivang: i see this part of g-s-t as a real admin tool....nothing i would give a normal user, but fine for "real" admin tasks03:29
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thomjdub: que?04:06
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Matt|is bug 3138 likely to be assigned at all does anyone know?04:40
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nobsehi04:44
nobseThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:45
nobse  perlmagick: Depends: libmagick6 (= 5:6.0.2.5-1ubuntu1) but 5:6.0.2.5-1ubuntu1.1 is to be installed04:45
nobseE: Broken packages04:45
nobseare you aware of that?04:45
tsengnobse: search bugzilla.ubuntulinux.org04:46
tsengif you dont see it, file it04:46
nobseCan I use reportbug?04:47
tsengsure.04:47
nobseok04:48
tsengdoes that still go to BTS?04:49
tsengor bugzilla now04:49
nobseubuntu-users04:50
bob2erm, are yo usure reportbug does anything useful on ubuntu?04:50
nobsebob2: no, that's why I asked04:50
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tsengthere is some branding, but i dont see anything that is similar to s/debian bts/bugzilla04:50
nobsebut the mail was sent to ubuntu-users04:50
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nobsebtw, a fixed package is available in universe, but doesn't appear in Packages.gz04:54
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RubenVhmmm05:08
RubenVdoes gstreamer need the gstreamer-ffmpeg package to be able to play any divx/xvid movie?05:08
RubenVlately i'm finding more movies that don't work that those who do with gstreamer05:09
GotD0thow do i reinstall grub? another operating system wrote over it and now its all fugly05:10
MithrandirGotD0t: grub-install /dev/hda should work05:10
GotD0tMithrandir, thanks05:11
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GotD0tso anybody know how to get my ATI 9700 pro 3D accelerated in hoary?05:21
thomGotD0t: wrong channel05:22
GotD0tthom, sorry... misread the tab05:22
danielselmo: please install l-k-h on davis if the packaging seems sane05:25
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Matt|is bug 3138 likely to be assigned at all does anyone know?06:37
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