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| trulux | lamont, is James (binutils pkg maintainer) online? | 12:12 |
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| lifeless | trulux: which James? | 12:14 |
| trulux | Troup | 12:16 |
| lifeless | not around at the moment | 12:16 |
| lifeless | lamont is travelling... won't hear from him till he hits mataro I tihnk | 12:19 |
| trulux | lifeless, kay | 12:20 |
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| daniels | trulux: no, sorry | 12:45 |
| trulux | ok | 12:46 |
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| haggai | carlos: thanks | 01:35 |
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| bob2 | hm | 09:06 |
| bob2 | should suspend-to-ram be logged anywhere? | 09:06 |
| bob2 | my paranoia circuit is having trouble beleiving a) it works at all, and b) that it wakes up so damn quickly | 09:07 |
| Mithrandir | bob2: look at a sleep indicator? | 09:07 |
| bob2 | the little moon? | 09:07 |
| bob2 | it's not coming on | 09:07 |
| Mithrandir | then the baby's not sleeping; try just echo mem > /sys/power/state | 09:08 |
| fabbione | morning guys | 09:08 |
| Mithrandir | hi fabio | 09:09 |
| fabbione | hey Mith | 09:09 |
| bob2 | hrm, sounds like something to try when I'm not rsyncing my homedir, but thanks :) | 09:10 |
| Mithrandir | bob2: well, you're probably right. | 09:11 |
| Mithrandir | bob2: it should sleep if you unload the USB modules | 09:11 |
| bob2 | ah | 09:12 |
| bob2 | hm | 09:13 |
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| === Treenaks made a photo series of the walk from the station to the NH hotel | ||
| Treenaks | *uploading* | 10:26 |
| Treenaks | fabbione: you here yet? :) | 10:26 |
| Mithrandir | Treenaks: fabbione and I are arriving this afternoon | 10:26 |
| Treenaks | cool | 10:26 |
| Treenaks | I'll upload the photo series so you can see how to walk on your PDAs :P | 10:27 |
| fabbione | i don't have a PDA :-) | 10:27 |
| Treenaks | laptop then | 10:28 |
| Treenaks | mobile phone | 10:28 |
| sjoerd | Treenaks: we can study them in the train from bcn :) | 10:28 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: 8) | 10:28 |
| daniels | Treenaks: URL? :) | 10:29 |
| Treenaks | daniels: copying from flash. but they'll be on foodfight.org/fotos/2004/ somewhere :) | 10:29 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: I have an x40, it's almost a pda. :P | 10:30 |
| Treenaks | btw, I like the UBUNTU wireless network here :) much cheaper than Eurospot :) | 10:30 |
| sjoerd | Treenaks: i'm getting ``not found'' on your pages ? | 10:46 |
| Treenaks | I know | 10:47 |
| Treenaks | fixing | 10:47 |
| sjoerd | :) | 10:47 |
| Treenaks | should be fixed now | 10:50 |
| Treenaks | tr/// doesn't work well with things like UTF-8 :( | 10:51 |
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| sjoerd | 500 on the marina and pier page | 10:52 |
| sjoerd | same on the walk from blabla page | 10:53 |
| Treenaks | I know | 10:53 |
| Treenaks | the thumbnailing thingy crashes on unfinished jpgs | 10:53 |
| Treenaks | and as I'm still uploading... :) | 10:53 |
| sjoerd | ahah :) | 10:53 |
| sjoerd | nice connection ? | 10:54 |
| Treenaks | no :) | 10:54 |
| Treenaks | 45 minutes remaining | 10:54 |
| Treenaks | ah, I have an 1mbit connection to the AP | 10:57 |
| Treenaks | that explains it | 10:57 |
| Treenaks | oh, and across the street there's a thing called "UNIX", but I don't know what it is | 10:58 |
| Treenaks | I've found: | 11:16 |
| Treenaks | - 3 computer hardware stores | 11:17 |
| Treenaks | - at least1 nice coffee bar (great coffee!) | 11:17 |
| Treenaks | (they also serve bread with cheese/meat) | 11:18 |
| thom | Treenaks: if you're in the hotel, come to the second floor, follow the signs to the "salones" and mako and i are in the belagua | 11:19 |
| Treenaks | thom: second floow being "2" or "1"? :) | 11:19 |
| Treenaks | (american or european numbering system? :)) | 11:19 |
| thom | european | 11:20 |
| thom | uh, um. | 11:20 |
| Treenaks | so "press 2 in the elevator", OK | 11:20 |
| thom | the floor numbered 2, i mean :-) | 11:20 |
| === Treenaks is on his way, and will bring laptop :) | ||
| thom | yeah, we have an 8mbit or so connection here ;-) | 11:22 |
| mako | Treenaks: ciao | 11:24 |
| Treenaks | http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-05%20Walk%20from%20Matar%C3%B3%20train%20station%20to%20hotel/ | 11:36 |
| Treenaks | http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-05%20Matar%C3%B3%20marina%20and%20pier/ | 11:41 |
| ironwolf | Treenaks: great photos! thanks for sharing! | 11:51 |
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| ChrisH | The Warty CD does not boot on a server here. Knoppix does. Is there a way to boot the first stage from Knoppix and then switch? | 02:01 |
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| magnon | hm, where's gaim's header files hiding+ | 03:07 |
| magnon | ? | 03:08 |
| magnon | *devel files in general | 03:08 |
| bob2 | gaim's headers aren't packaged, iirc | 03:08 |
| bob2 | there's an outstanding wishlist bug about it | 03:09 |
| magnon | ah, thanks. | 03:09 |
| bob2 | (I think) | 03:09 |
| magnon | seems like a reasonable explanation to me :) | 03:10 |
| magnon | I'll have to source it, then | 03:11 |
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| sivang | mdz : do you know if mako already computed the keyring md5sums? it was said it wold be available by yesterday :) | 03:24 |
| sivang | mdz : (I'm talking about the ksp) | 03:24 |
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| mjg59 | Is it just me, or is the kernel package build system on crack? | 03:33 |
| mjg59 | Are there any docs on how to move to a new upstream version without sedding files by hand? | 03:34 |
| sivang | mjg59 : what do you mean "new upstream version" a kenrnel recompilatio howto? | 03:42 |
| mjg59 | sivang: No, I want to adapt the ubuntu kernel source package to a 2.6.10 prerelease for testing purposes | 03:46 |
| sivang | mjg59 : ah I see:) I don't recall I've seen a howto for this then. | 03:46 |
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| thom | yes, the kernel build system is awesomely crackful | 03:51 |
| mjg59 | Oh, WURGH. | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | tg3.c is an empty file in the Hoary 2.6.9? | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | Oh, I see... | 03:53 |
| mjg59 | Argle. | 03:57 |
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| sladen | mjg59: make-kpkg debian ? | 04:29 |
| mjg59 | Oh, is that how it's done? | 04:30 |
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| zul | morning | 04:56 |
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| Treenaks | why is it so quiet in here? I mean.. everyone seems to have a laptop + IRC :) | 06:44 |
| lamont_r | lol | 06:44 |
| lamont_r | you in mataro Treenaks ? | 06:44 |
| sjoerd | Treenaks: probably because some people don't need irc to talk to eachother :) | 06:45 |
| Treenaks | lamont_r: yes ;) | 06:45 |
| thom | sjoerd: it's not stopping those two, they're about a foot apart | 06:45 |
| lamont_r | thom: more like 6 | 06:45 |
| sjoerd | thom: hehe | 06:46 |
| === Kamion feeds kernel bugs to fabbione | ||
| === lamont_r hands Kamion more fuel | ||
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| trulux | hey guys | 06:57 |
| trulux | hey lamont & doko | 06:57 |
| trulux | having good time at Matar? | 06:57 |
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| lamont_r | trulux: yeah | 06:58 |
| trulux | :D | 06:58 |
| trulux | here there's no sun at all | 06:59 |
| sjoerd | thom: oh is there ipv6 over there or just ipv4 ? | 07:00 |
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| trulux | lamont, i've sent some bug reports regarding my toolchain enhancements to the ubuntu bugzilla | 07:01 |
| thom | just v4 | 07:01 |
| thom | i think | 07:01 |
| trulux | doko received the gcc related ones quickly | 07:01 |
| === trulux is having good feedback ;-) | ||
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| sivang | pitti : Hi ! | 07:09 |
| pitti | Hi sivang! | 07:11 |
| pitti | sivang: greetings from Matar :-) | 07:11 |
| sjoerd | pitti: had a nice trip ? | 07:12 |
| sivang | pitti : Yeah, how was the trip? | 07:12 |
| Treenaks | pitti: could you shout your name so I know who you are? :P | 07:14 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: when were you arriving? wednesday? | 07:14 |
| sjoerd | Treenaks: tuesday | 07:14 |
| sjoerd | in the afternoon | 07:15 |
| sjoerd | plane lands at 11:15 in bcn | 07:15 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: ah, mine landed 14:20 and I was here around 1700 | 07:16 |
| sjoerd | uhm, 11:45 thatis | 07:16 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-05%20Walk%20from%20Matar%C3%B3%20train%20station%20to%20hotel/ | 07:16 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: walk from train station to hotel ;) | 07:16 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: to download to your PDA/laptop | 07:16 |
| sjoerd | saw them | 07:17 |
| trulux | will be the next ubuntu conference celebrated in Matar too? | 07:17 |
| pitti | sjoerd, sivan: a bit exhausting, but it went all well | 07:19 |
| sivang | pitti : good to hear that :) | 07:19 |
| pitti | pitti: ping to myself | 07:19 |
| sivang | pitti : I heared you travlled with lamont | 07:19 |
| pitti | sivang: yes, I met him in Frankfurt | 07:20 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:thom] : Ubuntu development -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Want to help Hoary? see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals | Mataro server is mataro.ubuntu.com - local mirror, smtp smarthost | ||
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| mako | i'm downloading the last set of keys that people sent and then i'm going to compute the md5sum, do a few tests and then send it | 07:32 |
| sivang | mako : great | 07:33 |
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| sivang | anybody know how to use dh_scrollkeeper? the man page is , a bit cryptic :) | 08:36 |
| mjg59 | sivang: Just call it in your debian/rules after the package has installed into debian/tmp (or whatever) | 08:38 |
| mjg59 | You may need to do some extra stuff if you have your own postinst | 08:38 |
| sivang | mjg59 : am using cdbs | 08:38 |
| mjg59 | Oh, right | 08:38 |
| mjg59 | Try #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org | 08:38 |
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| sivang | mjg59 : I have called it in my rules, but it seems to not having done anything :) | 08:49 |
| sivang | ok, I'll try there. | 08:49 |
| sivang | mjg59 : thanks! | 08:49 |
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| lupus_ | k I noticed that if you change an option in gnome-volume-manager properties this will have no effect till you restart it. | 09:40 |
| lupus_ | shouldn't gnome-volume-manager be restarted when you click on close then? | 09:41 |
| lupus_ | I don't want to wait till next reboot :p | 09:41 |
| wasabi_ | it should apply instantly. | 09:42 |
| wasabi_ | i thought it did. | 09:42 |
| sivang | tseng : ping | 09:43 |
| tseng | hi sivang | 09:43 |
| sivang | tseng : hey :) I have started with cdbs, it's a workhorse :) However , I thought of asking you about a trouble I have with dh_scrollkeeper, I am not sure how to use it under cdbs. | 09:44 |
| lupus_ | wasabi_, I changed the cd audio entry to goobox | 09:44 |
| tseng | well cdbs has a method to override a function | 09:45 |
| tseng | like in OOP | 09:45 |
| lupus_ | but it still starts the old player | 09:45 |
| tseng | basically you can add custom methods to any function that cdbs already defines in an include | 09:45 |
| sivang | tseng : where can I paste you my rules file? | 09:45 |
| lupus_ | can someone test to verify | 09:45 |
| tseng | sivang: grab my tomboy package | 09:45 |
| tseng | sivang: and look at the rules file | 09:45 |
| tseng | its a good example of overriding to call dh_blah | 09:46 |
| sivang | tseng : you are also installing documentation into scrollkeeper there? | 09:46 |
| tseng | no, im calling dh_netdeps | 09:46 |
| tseng | overriding a predefined function | 09:46 |
| tseng | im sure someone here knows an example of a cdbs package using scrollkeeper, however | 09:47 |
| sivang | anyone ? :) | 09:47 |
| sivang | tseng : I have the 2 standard includes, for makefile and debhelper, and I added: | 09:48 |
| tseng | there is a gnome include | 09:48 |
| tseng | it actually calls dh_scrollkeeper | 09:49 |
| tseng | have a look. | 09:49 |
| tseng | it should "just work" for basic stuff | 09:49 |
| sivang | tseng : I know, already tried it - it looks for the whole set of auto tools in the pkg source folder, and it's a plain doc pkg so nothing like that in it yet. | 09:52 |
| sivang | tseng : how do I create it a set of autotools file ? | 09:52 |
| tseng | in a new project? | 09:52 |
| tseng | or from cvs | 09:52 |
| sivang | tseng : in a new , completely fresh package tree I created. | 09:53 |
| tseng | no idea about autotooling from scratch, sorry | 09:54 |
| tseng | im sure there is a good FM in that area | 09:54 |
| sivang | tseng : ok, I will check , thanks anyway :) | 09:55 |
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| trulux | lamont, it would be a good idea to run a poll about what devs think about improving more security enhancements in Ubuntu | 10:36 |
| trulux | like the one at http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/www/?page=survey | 10:36 |
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| sivang | does anybody know if we can use h323: (gnomeeting) from mataro? | 10:47 |
| sivang | or could please have a test for it | 10:47 |
| trulux | yep, is it re-transmitted? | 10:53 |
| sivang | trulux : what? | 11:00 |
| sivang | I am not sure about that... | 11:00 |
| sjoerd | sivang: all the people from mataro seem to come from one ip addy.. So probably natted | 11:02 |
| sjoerd | sivang: so it probably won't work | 11:02 |
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| sivang | sjoerd : I see | 11:51 |
| sivang | sjoerd : then gaim it is :) | 11:51 |
| sivang | I use voip from a NATed lan :) | 11:52 |
| sjoerd | voip ? h323 or sip | 11:53 |
| sjoerd | i'm doing the same, but my gw does portforwarding for a portrange, so it works with gm | 11:53 |
| sjoerd | an most of the time i use ipv6, so all stupid limitations are gone | 11:53 |
| sivang | sjoerd : well, could you show a bit ipv6 when I'm there ? :) would be willing to learn to set up. | 11:54 |
| sjoerd | ipv6 network is trivial.. connection to the outside world is somewhat harder currently | 11:55 |
| sjoerd | being behind a nat makes it more difficult again, but just ask me about it if you want to know | 11:57 |
| sjoerd | or fabionne, he knows a lot about it too iirc | 11:58 |
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