[12:19] fabbione: Around? === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] fabbione: I've sent mail about 2.6.9 patches === mirak [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-12-177.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-87-95.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] can anyone confirm a bug I'm experiencing. Compose a mail in evolution with a word not in dictionary [e.g. Ubuntu] and try to add it to dictionary. Right-click add-to-dict causes an evolution crash. Right-click check-spelling and then adding to dictionary causes all of gnome to lock up and so I have to drop back to console and kill evolution for things to work OK again. [01:47] hey lamont [02:00] i'll post to list, bye === mdke [~Matt|@81-178-89-168.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mdke [~Matt|@81-178-89-168.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Micksa_ [~mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:36] the wiki mentions inotify being added to hoary, has it been added? if so I can't seem to find it. [03:37] nm i found it === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["censored"] === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor|away [~robtaylor@217.204.121.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless_ [~robertc@dsl-253.4.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === shaya [~spotter@user-0ccembr.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fwiffo_ [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fwiffo__ [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:08] Thunderbird 1.0 is out. When do we get it in Hoary? ;) [07:10] 1.0 is out already? [07:11] yep [07:11] i just installed 1.0rc gotta upgrade ;) [07:11] they decided they didn't feel like staying up late tonight, and it was ready to go, so they did midnight eastern instead of 1am pacific [07:12] they'd been advertising it would be out 1am pacific on the 7th === Crushed_Cigar [~zinc@ACC15EC9.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-87-95.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-209-048.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === silbs [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:56] thom? [08:57] Mithrandir: ? [08:57] thom: the dhcp server advertises a non-existent DNS server [08:57] yes [08:57] nada i can do [08:57] set up a DNS server on the ip address? [08:57] it's given me correct info [08:57] it just gave Karianne wrong info [08:57] 192.168.0.2 ? [08:57] yeah === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:58] hrm, i can possibly hack round it, not sure [08:58] would be nice; it's not the first time it's happened and she's not the only victim. === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] easier than i thought, fixed [09:02] thanks a lot === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:09] elmo/mdz/jdub: shall i commit the seed additions? [09:13] thom: hrm, wait for mailing udevel, i think [09:13] kk [09:15] grrr, is that only me or people star using the devel list as an user one ? [09:15] yeah [09:16] the bof room is open [09:17] fabbione: yeah, but we're supposed to be using the main room for hacking [09:18] thom: shushhhhh [09:18] ;) === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-205.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:33] thom: aren't we supposed to use the hack room for hacking? [09:33] Mithrandir: there are gonna be bofs in it [09:33] Mithrandir: he is english.. he has a distorted view of the world :P [09:33] i can get jane to come and beat you up [09:34] can you make her bring tea while doing it? === fabbione hugs thom [09:34] ahahah [09:34] are there any evolution hackers about, whom I may beat up? === mdz [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] lifeless, http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/b/bazaar/1.0.1-1/ ? [09:36] https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3107 [09:37] enrico: http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2 [09:37] carlos: cool! [09:38] elmo: ehhm, I had main=hoary and universe=warty in my sources.list.. \o/ [09:38] elmo: I don't guarantee that mom won't get the category of patch wrong, I just guarantee that when it gets it wrong it will get it /amusingly/ wrong [09:38] haggai: interesting... how'd it do? [09:39] lamont_r: surprisingly well, I only noticed because the available apt-proxy was the testing, not unstable version [09:39] lamont_r: although meld was broken and I guess that was the reason why [09:39] ah [09:41] seb128: what's the chance of bugs I report in evo actually being fixed? [09:42] mjg59: you around? [09:43] Mithrandir, depending of the bug ... [09:43] seb128: mostly UI issues. [09:43] Mithrandir, so pretty low [09:43] there is a lot of crasher and big issues to deal with first [09:44] stuff like enter not doing the right thing when editing an appointment, superflous buttons, the fact that if you select a read-only calendar, suddenly anything you type in is interpreted as menu shortcuts. [09:44] should be simple enough to fix if you know the structure and _really_ annoying when you use it [09:44] right [09:45] opening a bug doesn't hurt [09:45] but not sure on quick it'll be fixed [09:45] Keybuk: what became of the +b1 binNMU thing? [09:45] fabbione: done [09:45] seb128: I guess using upstream's bugzilla makes sense, then. [09:45] we're having a BOF about that I think here? [09:45] Mithrandir, yes [09:45] Keybuk: ah, ok [09:46] elmo: what's the name of the porting box? [09:46] oh, meh, it'd help to bind mount home wouldn't it [09:46] fabbione: halley.u.c but one sec [09:46] elmo: please remember ccache as well :-) [09:46] sure.. [09:47] yeah, ccache is there === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:47] and home and proc are there too [09:47] 1337! [09:48] elmo: echo hoary > /etc/debian_chroot [09:48] I don't think that works because of the sarge base system [09:49] oh, no, it does, I'm a muppet [09:49] done [09:50] thanks [09:53] seb128: ?? === lamont_r walks [09:55] elmo: could you please install davis:~daniels/binutils/*.deb in the hoary chroot? [09:56] fabbione: new kernel diff in concordia:~daniels/kernel/l-i/install-all-asm-headers.diff [09:56] daniels: ok [09:56] fabbione: (debdiff shows just the asm-* stuff changing) [09:56] fabbione: for i in linux-image-2.6.9-1-amd64-{generic,k8{,-smp},xeon} linux-headers-2.6.9-1{,-amd64-{generic,k8{,-smp},xeon}}; do echo -- $i; echo; echo; echo; debdiff ${i}_2.6.9-{1,2}_amd64.deb; done | less [09:56] fabbione: run that in concordia:~daniels/kernel/l-i if you like [09:58] NetworkMagic BOF in the BOF room now [09:58] heel! [09:58] elmo: (you might want to diff the testsuite, etc; the build tree is lying around in there) [09:59] daniels: ok i will in a few.. i am giving ia64 port love to the kernel right now [09:59] fabbione: cheers === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:06] ~. [10:07] garh === bronson_ [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@d006238.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:12] daniels: the patch seems to work :-) [10:12] daniels: nice job.. let me apply it [10:12] fabbione: thanks [10:13] the binutils testsuite is running on concordia atm [10:14] daniels, so, where are the stuff I need to get a decent resolution on my laptop ? :) [10:16] Changes by Daniel Stone: [10:16] [10:16] * Modify debian/header-install and debian/post-install in order to ship all [10:16] the asm headers in the linux-header package and produce proper symlinks [10:16] from the specific flavour. This circumnvent a problem on powerpc (mainly) [10:16] that uses a bunch of m68k asm includes. [10:16] This fix will allow also the build of the new linux-restricted modules. === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] elmo_away: is there any problem with halley? [10:23] lamont: you uploaded hpsockd 0.13.0.14 [10:24] lamont: however, I already fixed hpsockd in 0.12ubuntu0.1 [10:24] seb128: try this - http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apoirier/ [10:24] lamont: does this version fix anything else than the recent DoS? [10:24] fabbione: 'This fix will also allow the new linux-restricted-modules to build on powerpc.' [10:25] lamont: if not, it needs to be removed from the queue [10:25] daniels, ok, thank [10:25] thanks [10:25] no worries :) [10:25] lamont_r: ^ [10:26] elmo_away: can you ssh to halley??? [10:26] i can ping it from within the dc [10:26] but ssh hangs === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:35] mdz: what about that USB_BLK_UB thingy? [10:35] are we sure 100% that we have to kill it? [10:35] the 2 errors i found around where not related to usb but to the scsi layer on top of usb [10:36] 09:28 < svenl> Damn, unmounting the usb stick freezes this 2.6.9 kernel, i suppose this is considered an RC bug ... [10:36] (if that's the same thing ...) === bronson_ [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:36] Kamion: nope.. that's another bug [10:36] Kamion: they are both tracked on kernel bugzilla [10:37] but i am not going to spend time to explain to sven how to search [10:37] of course :-) [10:40] seb128: can you push mdz on irc? [10:42] mdz: read above [10:42] fabbione: unset CONFIG_BLK_DEV_UB [10:42] ok [10:42] confirmed to fix my problems [10:45] jdub: I just wanted to point you to the multisync packages for hoary yesterday evening, but then had to go and decided to mail ubuntu-users === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] elmo: can you please remove hpsockd 0.13.0.14 from the warty-security queue? [10:46] elmo: don't beat up me, I didn't upload it :-/ [10:46] elmo: halley is dead [10:46] elmo: i can't ssh to it anymore [10:46] azeem: saw your mail :-) [10:46] azeem: good stuff :) [10:48] pitti: ?? who did? [10:48] fabbione: works for me? [10:49] elmo: i can ping, but not ssh [10:50] now i can again [10:50] weird === GheRivero [~god@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks throws #4452 and #4453 at seb128 [11:20] what about them ? [11:22] oh nothing special [11:23] so why throwing them on me ? :) [11:25] seb128: I am :) [11:26] "why" is the question ? :p [11:26] seb128: oh, just for fun [11:29] ok ;) === Mithrandir scratches head. [11:32] something is dropping loads of packets on the floor. === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:45] it was kinnison === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:01] nneeeeewwww freeeesshh craaaccckkk [12:04] http://www.elmundo.es/navegante/2004/12/07/softlibre/1102413723.html === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:08] Mithrandir: even more? [12:08] Treenaks: yeah, I'm working on ia32-libs. [12:08] and have a new, big, fresh supply of crack [12:09] Mithrandir: I _only_ have ia32 libs here 8) [12:09] (but then, I don't have an amd64 laptop) [12:09] neither do I, but I have access to real machines. [12:24] can I add bazaar-doc to supported under the 'Obvious' rule ? [12:26] lamont, do you know why gnome-panel doesn't build ? it doesn't find libgnome-menu-dev which is in main ... [12:26] seb128: I only recently promoted [12:26] +it [12:26] "recently" like "10 min ago" ? [12:27] uh, dunno, last hour or so [12:27] it's in Building state now anyways [12:27] ok, thanks [12:27] elmo: bazaar-doc sounds right and good. [12:28] elmo: could you please install binutils on davis and concordia and also try the test suite? ~daniels/binutils/ [12:28] %bazaar fits into that category, no? [12:29] huh? [12:29] how could binutils not be installed? [12:29] fabbione: You called? [12:29] do you mean upgrade? [12:29] elmo: yeah [12:29] mjg59: yup.. i got the patches, thanks. i will apply them in -3. [12:30] fabbione: Rock. They look ok? [12:30] mjg59: i need to get -2 out today with ia64 love [12:30] mjg59: i reviewed them with mdz and they look ok [12:31] Kamion: do we have seed mod notification yet? [12:31] mjg59: mind to enlight me about the initrd changes that needs to be done? [12:31] mjg59: are we safe to upload the kernel without these changes? [12:31] mjg59: or the 2 needs to be alligned? [12:32] fabbione: Uploading without the initrd-tools changes is fine, but swsusp won't work [12:32] I've filed a bug against initrd-tools in bugzilla with a patch to it [12:32] pitti: it's on its way [12:33] Bug #4444 [12:34] mjg59: thanks [12:36] mjg59: of course the patch doesn't need to ensure that the module is loaded, right? [12:36] and it doesn't break with older kernels... [12:36] fabbione: Yeah - swsusp can't be modular [12:37] Oh, hrm. It probably wants to check that the file exists before echoing into it. [12:37] fabbione: will -2 have asm-* love? [12:37] daniels: yes. already applied [12:38] daniels: do you have time to upload xorg ubuntu5 with the sparc support back? [12:38] mjg59: mind to review the patch so i can upload * today? [12:39] elmo: hm, no, not yet [12:39] fabbione: Sorry, which patch? [12:39] elmo: do you need it? [12:39] mjg59: the one to initrd? [12:39] Oh, hrm. It probably wants to check that the file exists before [12:39] echoing into it. [12:39] Oh, right. Yeah, will do. [12:39] fabbione: brilliant [12:39] fabbione: yeah, sure [12:39] It just wants a if [ -f ] around the echo [12:39] kamion: no not particularly, just curious [12:40] Pavel wants a couple of minor changes to the swsusp code, but nothing significant [12:40] mjg59: i am dealing to require a higher version of initrd tools to ensure that swsup works as it should.. but i need to be 100% sure that there are no regressions with older kernels. 2.6.9 is not the default yet. [12:40] fabbione: Ok, no problem [12:40] mjg59: i still have to apply the patches, so if you want to change stuff around go ahead. [12:41] fabbione: http://planetarytramp.net/linux-2.6.3-printopen.patch KTHXBYE ;-) [12:42] Resolving planetarytramp.net... failed: Host not found. === whiprush [~jorge@arslinux.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kamion prepends www. [12:42] hrmph, that should work === thom fixors dns [12:43] cack, i can't from here [12:43] thom: you tramp! :P [12:43] hohum [12:44] thom: Dude, what does that actually do? [12:44] Oh, and is the laptop BOF today? [12:45] mjg59: exactly what it says on the tin [12:45] yes [12:45] Kamion: WORKSFORME [12:45] thom: weird patch... but we can work on it i guess [12:45] thom: Ok - do you have time for a quick chat about it? [12:45] planetarytramp.net: warning: glueless NS dns0.positive-internet.com ([80.87.128.65] dns0.positive-internet.com, in glue from [192.43.172.30] i.gtld-servers.net, server for net) [12:45] planetarytramp.net: warning: glueless NS dns1.positive-internet.com ([80.87.128.65] dns0.positive-internet.com, in glue from [192.43.172.30] i.gtld-servers.net, server for net) [12:45] that might not help, although it could just be chiark-named-conf being ultra-picky [12:46] prolly chiark [12:47] mjg59: sure [12:47] well, gluelessness can be a real problem [12:47] Kamion: it can be [12:47] depends whether it's circular or not I guess :) [12:48] mjg59 [12:48] mjg59: i asked thom if it is possible to apply that patch, but make it "active" only on a boot parameter [12:49] i am pretty sure that will be handy while you guys monitor the hd activity [12:49] and it would allow people to test and track without having to recompile a kernel [12:50] it's for readahead, mostly. there are already kernel interfaces to find out what tries to write to disk [12:50] Ah, right [12:50] thom: Probably need to discuss what sort of PM is going to be the default in Hoary [12:51] thom: I think StD can probably be on by default. StR ought to be supported but disabled. APM ought to be loaded if acpi isn't running. [12:51] apm is loaded correctly as of yesterdya [12:51] elmo: scponly is fixed and published now [12:52] thom: Rocking [12:52] Also, force more people to test these things [12:52] fabbione: Oh, the kernel possibly needs to pre-depend on the newer initrd-tools, thinking about it... [12:52] pitti: sweet, thanks [12:53] Or is depend sufficient? [12:53] thom: Issues with suspend are primarily how it gets exposed to the UI [12:53] Not everyone who has working StR has a sleep button, so there needs to be some sort of UI element to get them there [12:54] mjg59: "lid" :) [12:54] so we need some way of exposing that in gnome similar to windows' shutdown menu [12:55] we also need some way of letting peoople choose whether they want to suspend on lid closure etc [12:55] Mithrandir: Yeah, but then people bitch that they don't want the machine to sleep on lid closure [12:55] mjg59: they are wrong. (: [12:55] thom: Indeed. Knocking up something g-s-tish shouldn't be hard [12:55] aye [12:57] Other laptop issues: cpufreq (sladen's been working on that), hotkey support (every machine has different ways of doing hotkeys, all of them differently broken) === lexhider [~lexhider@dip-220-235-84-206.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] For machines which have support for switching on the LCD, we probably want to do that. But that's dependent on which module they use. [12:59] mjg59: i think Depends should be more than enough [12:59] fabbione: Does that guarantee that it's unpacked before the kernel is unpacked? [12:59] Oh, actually, that doesn't matter [12:59] It'll be unpacked before postinst is run, right? [01:01] yes [01:01] Ought to be good, then [01:02] daniels: [01:02] thom@jackass:~ $ madison libxinerama1 [01:02] libxinerama1 | 6.8.1-1ubuntu4 | hoary | amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc [01:02] thom@jackass:~ $ madison libxinerama-dev [01:02] libxinerama-dev | 6.8.1-1ubuntu4 | hoary | amd64, i386, ia64, powerpc [01:02] thom@jackass:~ $ [01:02] mjg59: as elmo said [01:02] thanks [01:03] thom: madison takes arbitrary numbers of arguments, or just 'madison -r xinerama' [01:04] the things you learn [01:04] elmo: thanks :-) [01:05] seb128: err, don't listen to that bong smoking hippy Waugh - how big are -dbg packages for *gnome* going to be? [01:07] elmo: smaller than ia32-libs-gnome-make-elmo-go-bong-bong [01:08] Mithrandir: is there anything larger than ia32-libs? [01:08] lamont_r: ooo-amd64? [01:08] heh [01:08] lamont_r: source or binary size? [01:08] binary [01:09] then again, source can be interesting too... [01:09] o/~ in the ning nang nong, where the cows go bong [01:10] ia32-libs is smallish installed-size [01:10] "ish" [01:10] only about 18MB [01:10] and the monkeys all say boo! [01:10] thom: we're talking about _computers_, not pocket calculators. [01:11] lamont_r: it's the source size which is _bad_ for ia32-but-amd64 packages. [01:12] Keybuk: in the nong ning nang, where the mice go clang, and you just can't stop them when they do! === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] fabbione: New patch on #4444 [01:48] mjg59: cool === smurfix_ [~smurf@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:53] fabbione: daniels: Ok, it turns out video_post blows up on some machines. This is /probably/ due to the code jumping to chunks of video BIOS that have been unmapped after video boot. Any ideas on how to work around this? [01:54] mjg59: let me check out the source [01:54] mjg59: is that X specific? [01:54] mjg59: if so daniels is your bitch :P [01:55] video_post != X [01:56] but yeah, I'll look at it [01:58] The problem is, that there tend to be at least two jumps (jump from c000:0003 to wherever the code actually is, do some code, jump somewhere else, finish up) [01:58] And the first set of code is often there, but the second set is sometimes missing [01:58] So it gets part way through init and then crashes out [01:59] Klar, kein Problem. [02:00] Ich glaube, das ist [02:00] noch etwas zu frh, *sigh* [02:01] *sigh* even [02:01] smurfix: -EWIN? [02:02] elmo: sparc-ping? [02:02] elmo: something like that. :-/ [02:02] bah, unplugging power made my screen go dim, and function-brightness-up doesn't help [02:05] bob2: Yeah, maximum brightness is lower on battery [02:06] mjg59: unless you change that in the BIOS [02:07] oh my god that code is so much crack [02:10] daniels: Well, yeah [02:10] We could do it in vm86 instead, which is less code, but doesn't work on amd64 [02:11] mmm, yeah [02:11] aaammmmdddd666644444 ccccrrrraaaccckkkk [02:11] mmmmmmmm === daniels reassigns to Mithrandir. === Mithrandir eats daniels and mjg59 [02:16] mjg59: hmmm [02:16] mjg59: might be worthwhile stealing chunks of drivers/vesa and vbe from xorg [02:17] daniels: The problem is that re-POSTing isn't a VBE thing [02:17] mjg59: right, but those at least have a pretty sane int10 implementation [02:18] The int10 code in that is ripped straight out of xfree [02:18] (That's why everything starts XF...) [02:21] yeah [02:21] seems to have been horrifically hacked tho [02:21] bbiab [02:21] definite shortage of tin foil here. [02:23] that's because you're all throwing it away [02:26] daniels: linux-restricted-modules needs some x.org love, and while you're at it, could you look at 2500? === moyogo [~moyogo@HSE-Toronto-ppp189288.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:38] fabbione: do you happen to know how to force hotplug (or whatever) to use usb-storage on usb removable disk things instead of uba? [02:38] bob2: yes. === stockholm [andreas@p177.kthopen.kth.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:39] hi [02:39] i am looking for mdz [02:39] when would he surface? [02:39] he's in hiding [02:40] fabbione: and the way to do it is? [02:40] mjg59: disable-lapic-in-acpi-power-off.dpatch [02:40] due to crimes against humanity [02:40] is this one of your patches? [02:40] bob2: waiting for me to upload -2 [02:40] fabbione: oh, aesome [02:40] thom: tell him to come out, i try to improve his package. [02:40] he's asleep [02:41] seriously [02:41] thom: i *do* believe you. when do you think will he come out of coma? [02:42] thom: is he in europe allready? [02:43] what do i have to do to be invited to some place like spain or the bahamas? [02:44] stockholm: Nothing. Everybody's invited. Just come here. [02:45] i would wait for the bahama meeting, then [02:45] fabbione: That's not one of mine [02:45] mjg59: does it make an sense to you? [02:45] becuase it is non portable code [02:45] and it makes mess on ia64 === fabbione wants to kill [02:46] It seems to be needed to get poweroff to work on some laptops [02:46] There's a cleaner fix in 2.6.10, I think [02:46] mjg59: humpf... [02:47] mjg59: do you have an alternate patch for it? [02:47] fabbione: Hang on, just finding it === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:47] hey! [02:47] these undocumented patched ARE A FUCKING PAIN IN THE BUTT [02:47] http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3643 [02:47] lamont, i'm finishing the hardened debian presentation slides [02:48] mjg59: you rock! [02:48] fabbione: I know [02:49] fabbione: apparently the phrase is 'shit hot [02:49] ' [02:49] So shit hot I don't notice cute blondes checking me out in bars, it seems [02:50] No, hang on. I put in a compact flash card. No g-v-m popup. I fdisk it. g-v-m popup. [02:50] WTF? [02:51] mjg59: usb mass storage? [02:51] Nope [02:51] Compact flash in PCMCIA adaptor [02:51] mjg to be fair, I didn't notice cute blondes checking you out in bars, either === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:51] daniels: How the christ did you just get a literal tab in that? [02:52] To be fair, this is sid rather than Ubuntu [02:52] (the craptop doesn't have PCMCIA...) [02:52] I thought the craptop pre-dated PCMCIA [02:52] ;) [02:52] But 4 USB SOCKETS [02:55] mjg59: take irssi, apply a liberal amount of burstlag, add a dash of tab and enter arriving in the same read [02:55] Oh, eww [02:55] she was totally checking you out [02:55] So that's how it happens [02:55] she even had all her teeth, afaic [02:55] t [02:56] bob2: I got back to Cambridge and then dreamt about all my teeth falling out [02:56] btw: joey took steve kamp into the security team [02:56] bah [02:57] mjg59: the midlands will do that to you [02:57] wrong channel [02:57] thom: what do you think, when will mdz be available? [02:57]