[05:00] <jlinares> bona tarda
[05:01] <teo> hi
[05:03] <mako> #ubunut-meeting
[05:03] <mako> BUST AN UNBUNUT
[05:03] <jordi> Avall els pantalons! (we need to boost catalan usage in this conference...)
[05:03] <fabbione> ehhehe
[05:03] <jdub> jordi: that is very different to the spanish
[05:04] <jordi> well, it's adifferent language after all :)
[05:04] <jdub> sounds french ;)
[05:04] <seb128> yeah
[05:04] <jordi> jdub: doh, I thought you said "abajo los pantalones"
[05:04] <jordi> They tell me you said "Estoy buscando mis pantalones"
[05:04] <jordi> Sooo, let's make that "Estic cercant els meus pantalons!"
[05:05] <jdub> jordi: oh, avall is "take off"? :)
[05:05] <mako> jdub: avail yourself of your pants
[05:05] <jordi> "abajo" :)
[05:05] <jdub> heh
[05:05] <jdub> mako: NEVER!
[05:05] <jdub> you will have to fight me!
[05:06] <quique> we will...
[05:06] <mako> believe me, i will
[05:06] <lamont__r> agenda item #1 is jdub's pants?
[05:06] <mako> if ubuntu has taught me anything, it's that TOGETHER, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
[05:06] <jordi> I need to announce that jdub has been able to deliver a package maaaaany Debian people were waiting for.
[05:06] <quique> and #2 is his underware
[05:06] <jordi> It took like... 4 minutes to prepare.
[05:06] <sivang> jdub : can you see this?
[05:06] <mako> ok, so this meeting
[05:07] <mako> i will "Run" this if nobody else wants to
[05:07] <smurfix_> quique: under_wear_.
[05:07] <quique> i know...
[05:07] <jordi> remember, you said you would not be able to run for 2 minutes.
[05:07] <mako> elmo, Kamion: around?
[05:07] <elmo> yes
[05:08] <Kamion> yes
[05:08] <mako> ok, so the agenda is, AFAIK, empty
[05:08] <smurfix_> It says "Any new maintainers?".
[05:09] <mako> are there are new maintainers for the council to consider this week?
[05:09] <mako> anyone here that wanted to be on that agenda but isn't?
[05:09] <mako> or, any other business folks want to have mentioned?
[05:10] <mako> otherwise, i think we should just do a bit of a summary from the conference and end it.. short and sweet :)
[05:11] <haggai> yesterday there was some discussion about seeds, and the fact there isn't really a defined process for accepting/rejecting seeds
[05:11] <mako> or is this a TB issue?
[05:11] <mako> Kamion?
[05:12] <haggai> did anyone come up with ideas from the discussion yesterday about how this should be done?
[05:12] <jdub> haggai: i'm writing a process document about it
[05:12] <jdub> probably something to propose to the TB next week
[05:13] <haggai> ok
[05:13] <Kamion> mako: kind of crossover; I don't think it needs to be approved by the TB necessarily
[05:13] <haggai> yeah, I think there is a community element to it
[05:13] <Kamion> I guess process for accepting/rejecting proposals needs approval
[05:14] <mako> haggai: do you want to give an executive summary of the problem at least and maybe people can communicate/discussion with jdub etc for something to bring to the TB next week?
[05:14] <elmo> btw, we just  lost bof room upstairs
[05:14] <mako> or anyone else that is willing to do it?
[05:14] <jdub> elmo: hrm?
[05:14] <lamont__r> well, parts of the bof room...
[05:14] <lamont__r> network connectivity crap
[05:14] <jdub> mako: (task to write it was assigned yesterday)
[05:15] <haggai> ok sounds like I missed a vital part :)
[05:15] <mako> jdub: is it worth doing a summary of the problem
[05:15] <jdub> haggai: i think you're right that it is both CC and TB relevant
[05:15] <haggai> summary is basically, there isn't one.  A procedure, that is.
[05:15] <jdub> mako: yeah
[05:16] <jdub> currently we are in perpetual seed freeze
[05:16] <jdub> with matt and i confirming changes as required
[05:16] <jdub> at the moment, we are confirming things that are required to continue development
[05:16] <jdub> such as new dependencies, etc.
[05:17] <jdub> but we also have the open proposals (see SeedManagement on the wiki)
[05:17] <jdub> there is no documented process or responsibility for ensuring those proposals are dealt with
[05:18] <mako> so it's a process issue for getting packages added to hoary basically?
[05:18] <jdub> added to base/desktop/supported
[05:18] <jdub> we'll have to have a bigger discussion about universe and multiverse
[05:19] <mdz> mako, basically
[05:19] <mdz> we know what the requirements are for the process
[05:19] <mdz> but it has not been written yet
[05:20] <elmo> mdz lives
[05:20] <mdz> barely
[05:21] <mako> for those that are not in mataro, mdz is sick
[05:21] <Kamion> and then there's the illness
[05:21] <mako> and sabdfl is away for a couple days
[05:21] <mako> Kamion: :)
[05:21] <Kamion> should be back tomorrow morning or so
[05:21] <jdub> (ripe for coup_
[05:21] <mako> jdub: alright, so we should definitely move quickly..
[05:21] <mako> i mean, with the seed prososal document
[05:21] <mako> right
[05:22] <jordi> mdz: ugh, I didn't know :/
[05:22] <fabbione> (that's because mdz didn't have enough burbon yesterday night btw)
[05:24] <mako> ok
[05:24] <mako> so i am happy to do an update for folks not at the conference
[05:24] <mako> and then we can call it quits unless other people have things
[05:25] <mako> about 50 of us have arrived in mataro already i believe
[05:25] <mako> and we've had two days of the conference almost over
[05:26] <mako> almost all of the canonical employess are here already
[05:26] <mako> and the rest are guests from spain a and from outside who have come
[05:26] <mako> we've had a handful of bofs on a number of topics.. yesterday saw the hoary feature goals LOVEFEST
[05:27] <mako> and a bof on seedmanagement and an effort by myself and some others on input methods
[05:28] <mako> we are also talking a bit about anothre canoncial project called launchpad
[05:28] <mdz> the process needs to ensure that proposed packages meet the criteria, which are fairly well-specified
[05:28] <mdz> and that there is an opportunity for discussion
[05:29] <mako> which includes a number of tools that, in the near future, ubuntu will be using to make making ubuntu easier.. and doing a whole lot of other things that involve working on free software and open source in general easier as well
[05:30] <mako> we'll be having an open day with lots of other people from barcelona and beyond this satruday
[05:30] <mako> and other than taht we will focus on a handful of bofs and sessions a day and a lot of hacking :)
[05:31] <mako> that's my summary :)
[05:31] <mako> so is there anything else?
[05:31] <mako> Kamion, elmo?
[05:32] <elmo> not from me
[05:32] <mako> alright then..
[05:32] <mako> next tuesday for the TB meeting and two weeks from today for the next CC meeting
[05:32] <Kamion> nothing from me
[05:33] <Kamion> thanks for the summary
[05:33] <mako> maybe an agenda next week :)
[05:33] <mako> or in two weeks
[05:33] <Kamion> let's hope so :)
[05:33] <Kamion> the CC has been quiet agenda-wise recently
[05:33] <Kamion> which I'm not entirely sure is a good thing, but we can talk about that later :)
[05:33] <jordi> mako is mine now. We have... issues to solve.
[05:33] <mako> Kamion: i share you concern
[05:35] <mako> thanks everyone for coming!
[05:35] <mako> laptop bof will be starting for those in mataro