=== Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-209-048.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === smurfix_ [~smurf@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === smurfix_ [~smurf@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === boglot [~logbot@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === KragenSitaker [~kragen@66-193-87-113.gen.twtelecom.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:smurfix_] : Tuesday 07 December 2004 at 16:00 UTC: Community Council meeting -- https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/CommunityCouncilAgenda === silbs [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === silb1 [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Kinnison [~dsilvers@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === teo [~teo@66.111.33.173] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jlinares [~jlinares@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:00] bona tarda === quique [~Quique@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === silbs [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:01] hi === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === SteveA [~steve@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako finds out that the meeting is *not* in $ubunut-meeting [05:03] #ubunut-meeting [05:03] BUST AN UNBUNUT [05:03] Avall els pantalons! (we need to boost catalan usage in this conference...) [05:03] ehhehe === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:03] jordi: that is very different to the spanish [05:04] well, it's adifferent language after all :) [05:04] sounds french ;) [05:04] yeah [05:04] jdub: doh, I thought you said "abajo los pantalones" === lamont__r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:04] They tell me you said "Estoy buscando mis pantalones" [05:04] Sooo, let's make that "Estic cercant els meus pantalons!" === sivang [~sivang@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:05] jordi: oh, avall is "take off"? :) [05:05] jdub: avail yourself of your pants [05:05] "abajo" :) [05:05] heh [05:05] mako: NEVER! [05:05] you will have to fight me! [05:06] we will... [05:06] believe me, i will [05:06] agenda item #1 is jdub's pants? [05:06] if ubuntu has taught me anything, it's that TOGETHER, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE [05:06] I need to announce that jdub has been able to deliver a package maaaaany Debian people were waiting for. [05:06] and #2 is his underware [05:06] It took like... 4 minutes to prepare. [05:06] jdub : can you see this? [05:06] ok, so this meeting === plovs [~plovs@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:07] i will "Run" this if nobody else wants to [05:07] quique: under_wear_. [05:07] i know... [05:07] remember, you said you would not be able to run for 2 minutes. [05:07] elmo, Kamion: around? [05:07] yes [05:08] yes [05:08] ok, so the agenda is, AFAIK, empty === haggai [~halls@i-83-67-20-196.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:08] It says "Any new maintainers?". [05:09] are there are new maintainers for the council to consider this week? [05:09] anyone here that wanted to be on that agenda but isn't? [05:09] or, any other business folks want to have mentioned? [05:10] otherwise, i think we should just do a bit of a summary from the conference and end it.. short and sweet :) [05:11] yesterday there was some discussion about seeds, and the fact there isn't really a defined process for accepting/rejecting seeds === mako is happy to add that to the list [05:11] or is this a TB issue? [05:11] Kamion? [05:12] did anyone come up with ideas from the discussion yesterday about how this should be done? [05:12] haggai: i'm writing a process document about it [05:12] probably something to propose to the TB next week [05:13] ok === Treenaks [martijn@facecrime.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:13] mako: kind of crossover; I don't think it needs to be approved by the TB necessarily [05:13] yeah, I think there is a community element to it [05:13] I guess process for accepting/rejecting proposals needs approval [05:14] haggai: do you want to give an executive summary of the problem at least and maybe people can communicate/discussion with jdub etc for something to bring to the TB next week? [05:14] btw, we just lost bof room upstairs [05:14] or anyone else that is willing to do it? [05:14] elmo: hrm? [05:14] well, parts of the bof room... [05:14] network connectivity crap [05:14] mako: (task to write it was assigned yesterday) [05:15] ok sounds like I missed a vital part :) === haggai crawls back to hole [05:15] jdub: is it worth doing a summary of the problem === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mako missed that BoF === mdz [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:15] haggai: i think you're right that it is both CC and TB relevant [05:15] summary is basically, there isn't one. A procedure, that is. [05:15] mako: yeah [05:16] currently we are in perpetual seed freeze [05:16] with matt and i confirming changes as required === silb1 [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:16] at the moment, we are confirming things that are required to continue development [05:16] such as new dependencies, etc. [05:17] but we also have the open proposals (see SeedManagement on the wiki) [05:17] there is no documented process or responsibility for ensuring those proposals are dealt with [05:18] so it's a process issue for getting packages added to hoary basically? [05:18] added to base/desktop/supported [05:18] we'll have to have a bigger discussion about universe and multiverse === mako agrees with Kamion that this is a CC issue as well as a TB one [05:19] mako, basically [05:19] we know what the requirements are for the process [05:19] but it has not been written yet [05:20] mdz lives [05:20] barely [05:21] for those that are not in mataro, mdz is sick [05:21] and then there's the illness [05:21] and sabdfl is away for a couple days [05:21] Kamion: :) [05:21] should be back tomorrow morning or so [05:21] (ripe for coup_ [05:21] jdub: alright, so we should definitely move quickly.. [05:21] i mean, with the seed prososal document [05:21] right [05:22] mdz: ugh, I didn't know :/ [05:22] (that's because mdz didn't have enough burbon yesterday night btw) [05:24] ok [05:24] so i am happy to do an update for folks not at the conference [05:24] and then we can call it quits unless other people have things [05:25] about 50 of us have arrived in mataro already i believe [05:25] and we've had two days of the conference almost over [05:26] almost all of the canonical employess are here already === seb128_ [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:26] and the rest are guests from spain a and from outside who have come [05:26] we've had a handful of bofs on a number of topics.. yesterday saw the hoary feature goals LOVEFEST [05:27] and a bof on seedmanagement and an effort by myself and some others on input methods [05:28] we are also talking a bit about anothre canoncial project called launchpad === mdz_ [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:28] the process needs to ensure that proposed packages meet the criteria, which are fairly well-specified [05:28] and that there is an opportunity for discussion === SteveA waves at the mention of launchpad [05:29] which includes a number of tools that, in the near future, ubuntu will be using to make making ubuntu easier.. and doing a whole lot of other things that involve working on free software and open source in general easier as well [05:30] we'll be having an open day with lots of other people from barcelona and beyond this satruday [05:30] and other than taht we will focus on a handful of bofs and sessions a day and a lot of hacking :) [05:31] that's my summary :) [05:31] so is there anything else? [05:31] Kamion, elmo? [05:32] not from me [05:32] alright then.. [05:32] next tuesday for the TB meeting and two weeks from today for the next CC meeting [05:32] nothing from me [05:33] thanks for the summary [05:33] maybe an agenda next week :) [05:33] or in two weeks [05:33] let's hope so :) [05:33] the CC has been quiet agenda-wise recently === mako nods === mako will try to do something controversial === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:33] which I'm not entirely sure is a good thing, but we can talk about that later :) [05:33] mako is mine now. We have... issues to solve. === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === smurfix__ [~smurf@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [05:33] Kamion: i share you concern === mako adjurns the meeting [05:35] thanks everyone for coming! === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [05:35] laptop bof will be starting for those in mataro === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === silb1 [~sbsm0084@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Have] === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === jlinares [~jlinares@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === plovs [~plovs@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mdz [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-meeting