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| moquist | hi ironwolf | 05:10 |
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| calc | so how is the speed up going? | 05:47 |
| calc | would be nice if ubuntu could boot as fast as xp | 05:47 |
| GotD0t | but calc remember, you need to boot xp every 30 minutes from crashes, while in ubuntu you need to boot once a month if you're unlucky | 05:49 |
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| whiprush | jdub: how's the conference going? | 06:53 |
| whiprush | you guys definately need to do that imendio ogg streaming thing for the next one. | 06:54 |
| whiprush | for the sake of us stuck in the states. :D | 06:55 |
| jdub | we'll probably have streaming stuff today | 06:57 |
| jdub | it was never an official thing, we're just hacking on it | 06:57 |
| jdub | it's more of a boffy conference than a presentations conference - perhaps having a radio-style stream of each room would be good | 06:57 |
| jdub | format makes things a bit harder | 06:58 |
| whiprush | that would rule. | 06:59 |
| whiprush | even raw feeds would rule. Let us figure it out, heh. | 06:59 |
| jdub | yeah, i just mean putting a high sensitivity microphone in the middle of the room and letting it run | 07:00 |
| whiprush | indeed | 07:01 |
| whiprush | man dude, that startup stuff is exciting. | 07:02 |
| jdub | heh | 07:02 |
| jdub | it's insane | 07:02 |
| jdub | so i was upstairs in the bof room for most of the afternoon | 07:02 |
| whiprush | perhaps we should be locking you guys up in rooms more often | 07:02 |
| jdub | while thom, scott and daniels were hacking on startup stuff | 07:02 |
| jdub | downstairs in the ballroom - they'd keep taunting us with the news | 07:03 |
| whiprush | is someone going to be doing a summary thinger on the conference? It'd be good to get an overall view on the stuff you guys hacked on. | 07:03 |
| jdub | there are a bunch of summaries of the bof sessions | 07:04 |
| whiprush | good good | 07:04 |
| jdub | but a general summary of what everyone hacked on would be... challenging ;) | 07:04 |
| === jdub should be blogging more | ||
| whiprush | the list I saw had lots of DDs on it. Sounds like some good overall stuff. | 07:05 |
| whiprush | yeah you should. :P daniels blog had lots of pants happy today. | 07:06 |
| whiprush | ugh, I'm so behind now, should I just wait for hoary for an ubuntu review? Seems kind of overdone lately. | 07:09 |
| jdub | heh | 07:10 |
| jdub | there was even an osnews 'warty to hoary' article, man | 07:10 |
| whiprush | tell me about it. I've fixed like 5 people tonite that don't know dpkg. Tough to advocate when you have people brand new to linux trying to use hoary. | 07:12 |
| jdub | yeah | 07:13 |
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| Treenaks | http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-09%20Ubuntu%20Conference/ | 08:39 |
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| jdub | Simira: ping | 08:57 |
| fabbione | morning guys | 08:57 |
| pasc | what timezone are you guys in? | 08:58 |
| Treenaks | pasc: CET, GMT+1 | 08:58 |
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| pasc | ok | 08:59 |
| pasc | so 10 hours difference | 08:59 |
| Simira | jdub: pong | 09:00 |
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| lamont_r | pasc: you left coast? | 09:02 |
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| pitti | Hi carlos | 09:04 |
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| carlos | pitti: hi! | 09:04 |
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| seb128 | morning | 09:04 |
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| jdub | Simira: what's your key id? | 09:07 |
| jdub | ogg/theora stream -> http://192.168.0.52:8800/ | 09:08 |
| jdub | use totem or mplayer | 09:08 |
| Simira | jdub: tha last octet :p eedb201e | 09:08 |
| Treenaks | jdub: video only? | 09:08 |
| jdub | yeah | 09:08 |
| jdub | Simira: ahr | 09:08 |
| Treenaks | jdub: "no subtitles available"? what kind of stream is that 8) | 09:10 |
| jdub | everyone connect :) | 09:10 |
| jdub | there's only me and treenaks atm | 09:10 |
| Treenaks | jdub: what kind of cam is this btw? | 09:10 |
| jdub | logitech quickcam thingy | 09:11 |
| jdub | pwc driver | 09:11 |
| Treenaks | ah | 09:11 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: theora? | 09:14 |
| Mithrandir | oh, yeah, you said | 09:15 |
| sjoerd | jdub: that's with the flumotion streaming thingie ? | 09:15 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: is it shit because of the came or because of theora? | 09:16 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: the colors, you mean? | 09:16 |
| jdub | sjoerd: yeah | 09:17 |
| thom | jdub: connection refused :P | 09:17 |
| Treenaks | also, wouldn't multicast be more efficient? :) | 09:17 |
| jdub | Mithrandir: what kind of shit? | 09:17 |
| sjoerd | nice | 09:17 |
| Mithrandir | colors all washed out | 09:17 |
| Mithrandir | the white balance is probably on crack | 09:17 |
| jdub | yeah | 09:17 |
| jdub | shitty camera and software controls for it | 09:18 |
| Mithrandir | add a gstreamer-whitebalance-filter? | 09:18 |
| jdub | it's already pushed > 100MB :) | 09:18 |
| jdub | Mithrandir: heh, camera needs to be configured too | 09:18 |
| jdub | taking stream down for a moment | 09:18 |
| jdub | http://192.168.0.52:8802/ | 09:20 |
| jdub | back again | 09:20 |
| sjoerd | all pwc cams i've seen untill now can be set on automatic mode.. | 09:21 |
| jdub | mmm, have to check the kernel options | 09:22 |
| sjoerd | you ned to do a pwc specific ioctl to change the mode | 09:22 |
| thom | heh, watch mdz's disembodied hands handwave | 09:23 |
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| Kamion | daniels: l-r-m? I can't do a test install to check out a second-stage bug that I'm being hassled about at the moment, 'cos linux-386 is uninstallable :( | 09:25 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: *prod* | 09:31 |
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| jdub | back again | 09:35 |
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| Keybuk | /etc/init.d/hotplug start 0.41s user 0.26s system 38% cpu 1.744 total | 09:46 |
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| mojo | ahhemm, I don't want to disturb all developers here, but I just 1 question: When the new gnome-panel be uploaded? Without gnome-panel, my GNOME is rendered 'dead' | 09:48 |
| seb128 | when it'll be ready ? :) | 09:49 |
| seb128 | probably the first changes in a couple of days | 09:49 |
| mojo | thx | 09:50 |
| jdub | dead? | 09:51 |
| jdub | there's nothing broken about the panel atm | 09:51 |
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| fabbione | who wants to fix control-center build-dep? | 09:54 |
| fabbione | it's missing libxinerama-dev | 09:54 |
| seb128 | _o/ | 09:54 |
| fabbione | http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/c/control-center/1:2.8.1-3ubuntu5/ | 09:55 |
| seb128 | thanks for pointing that fabbione | 09:55 |
| fabbione | seb128: no problem mate ;) | 09:55 |
| Simira | Mako looks kinda tired today... | 10:03 |
| Simira | I mean, more than usual | 10:03 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 10:03 |
| Mithrandir | he's not a morning person | 10:03 |
| Simira | definitely | 10:03 |
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| Simira | buy guys | 10:07 |
| Simira | bye* | 10:07 |
| Simira | :p | 10:07 |
| Treenaks | Simira: bye | 10:08 |
| Simira | bye all. It's been really really great. See you online. | 10:08 |
| mojo | Are there anyway to remove mime-type default open program entries that are set 'unremovabled' via Properties? | 10:09 |
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| Mithrandir | jdub: running with a sepia filter now? | 10:17 |
| jdub | heh | 10:18 |
| jdub | no | 10:18 |
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| haggai | Mithrandir: morning | 10:20 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: install failed | 10:20 |
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| haggai | Mithrandir: aw :( | 10:22 |
| Mithrandir | tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so ; no such file or directory. | 10:23 |
| mojo | arasearath0n | 10:25 |
| mojo | fix the swfrender.so in RealPlayer | 10:26 |
| pitti | doko: I updated the langpack wiki | 10:29 |
| pitti | elmo: do we have a powerpc hoary chroot with glibc build-deps? | 10:32 |
| pitti | ogra_: ping | 10:33 |
| jdub | lifeless: ping | 10:34 |
| Treenaks | why not just a big broadcast ping? | 10:35 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: you're not on jabber. :P ; what does the build time look like, with ccache? | 10:37 |
| pitti | ogra_: ping | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | pitti: pong | 10:42 |
| thom | sjoerd: can you poke seb to turn jabber on? | 10:42 |
| Mithrandir | what's the tool which, given a keysigning sheet and your keyring outputs who you haven't signed? | 10:44 |
| azeem | awk | 10:45 |
| Mithrandir | there's a script which probably uses awk or perl or something, yes. | 10:45 |
| azeem | yeah :) I'd be interested in that as well | 10:45 |
| azeem | not that I get around to sign keys anyway, but it's nice to see who you could potentially sign... | 10:46 |
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| pitti | elmo: do we have a powerpc hoary chroot with glibc build-deps? | 11:04 |
| elmo | err, davis? | 11:06 |
| pitti | elmo: "Unknown id: pitti" | 11:08 |
| pitti | elmo: can you please allow me? | 11:08 |
| Keybuk | ah, a daniels | 11:08 |
| Keybuk | he looks rested ;) | 11:10 |
| lamont_r | Err http://people.ubuntulinux.org Packages | 11:11 |
| lamont_r | 11:11 | |
| lamont_r | Hit http://people.ubuntulinux.org Packages | 11:11 |
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| elmo | pitti: meh, fixed | 11:12 |
| pitti | elmo: thanks a lot | 11:12 |
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| lamont_r | mvo: that's because you have no Packages.bz2 on your apt repository | 11:12 |
| mvo | correct :) | 11:12 |
| === lamont_r giggles more | ||
| lamont_r | bad error message | 11:13 |
| === mvo grumbles | ||
| === lamont_r spanks apt | ||
| mvo | I really need to teach it to not report it as an error | 11:13 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: ehehhe | 11:13 |
| lamont_r | or at least a more-clear error. | 11:14 |
| pasc | 20 hours until I leave | 11:14 |
| === pasc taps his foot | ||
| lamont_r | pasc: to where? | 11:14 |
| pasc | mataro | 11:15 |
| seb128 | hey pasc | 11:16 |
| lamont_r | pasc: cool | 11:16 |
| pasc | then 28 hours in transit until I hit barcelona | 11:16 |
| pasc | then however long it takes to get to mataro | 11:17 |
| thom | ~40 minutes | 11:17 |
| lamont_r | about an hour on the train | 11:17 |
| pasc | right... so a round 30 hours of transit | 11:17 |
| thom | assuming you don't hit barcelona so hard you splash... ;-) | 11:17 |
| lamont_r | 50 min +/- :-) | 11:17 |
| fabbione | amu, mdz: the cloop module is part of the kernel now. it will be up in -5. I only need to finish a -D__SMP__ compilation test | 11:17 |
| daniels | Kamion: i dput'ed it last night | 11:17 |
| daniels | mjg59: pong | 11:18 |
| fabbione | daniels: g1bb0r m3 m0r3 cr4ck | 11:19 |
| fabbione | daniels: l-r-m? | 11:19 |
| daniels | fabbione: it's been in NEW since yesterday | 11:19 |
| fabbione | daniels: you suck :P | 11:20 |
| fabbione | seb128: you rock! | 11:24 |
| fabbione | thanks for CC | 11:24 |
| seb128 | fabbione, np :) | 11:25 |
| seb128 | daniels, I've got a decent resolution on my laptop :) | 11:25 |
| Kamion | daniels: aha | 11:25 |
| seb128 | daniels, I had to add a Modeline for 1280x800 | 11:25 |
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| daniels | seb128: heh, cool | 11:29 |
| daniels | seb128: if you file a bug with the modeline, I'll add it for the next revision | 11:30 |
| seb128 | ok, thanks | 11:30 |
| Treenaks | ok, so my power-on-on-shutdown+lidclose bug is gone | 11:34 |
| Treenaks | how about the suspend-to-ram-on-wakeup-from-suspend-to-ram one? :) | 11:34 |
| lamont_r | Treenaks: heh | 11:37 |
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| daniels | god, I may have made X fast enough that I'm exposing races that weren't previously there | 11:48 |
| pitti | name = jdub.create_better_name_for("hhdt") | 11:49 |
| pitti | jdub: :-) | 11:49 |
| pitti | jdub: otherwise I use hwfu | 11:49 |
| jdub | :-) | 11:50 |
| jdub | hwfu is pretty cool | 11:50 |
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| ogra_ | pitti: so lets keep hwfu | 11:58 |
| pitti | ogra_: I'll check it into arch then | 11:59 |
| ogra_ | k | 11:59 |
| Kamion | my GOD this BOF is crashing my brain | 11:59 |
| pitti | ogra_: can you maintain your own branch on a public mirror? | 11:59 |
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| thom | Kamion: it's currently so far over my head i'm shocked that you guys don't have anoxoia | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | pitti: i'll try... | 12:00 |
| Mithrandir | thom: d-i or the BOF? | 12:00 |
| thom | bof. i may be exagerating a touch for effect | 12:01 |
| elmo | this dropping of NEW connections is getting old | 12:01 |
| pitti | ogra_: if you make-archive to a http-accessible spot, please don't forget -l :-) | 12:01 |
| thom | elmo: nod | 12:01 |
| ogra_ | pitti: i'll read the docs :) | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | pitti: have to do that anyway | 12:02 |
| seb128 | elmo, sync for libgnomeui and libgnomecanvas please | 12:03 |
| elmo | seb128: done | 12:03 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:03 |
| fabbione | Kamion: E: Package archdetect has no installation candidate | 12:05 |
| fabbione | ? | 12:05 |
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| bob2 | which bof is it? | 12:06 |
| fabbione | kubuntu? | 12:07 |
| lamont_r | kubuntu. | 12:09 |
| mjg59 | daniels: Is there any vaguely standard way of getting nvidia stuff using the nv driver to switch between LCD and CRT? | 12:09 |
| sivang | kubuntu? | 12:09 |
| pitti | indeed, kubuntu. :-) | 12:09 |
| mjg59 | daniels: (Also: successful StR with nvidia chipset Toshiba) | 12:09 |
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| daniels | mjg59: nice! | 12:11 |
| daniels | mjg59: using nv driver? not really | 12:11 |
| mjg59 | Bah | 12:12 |
| lamont_r | sivang: think ubuntu with gnome ripped out and kde added | 12:13 |
| sivang | lamont_r : yeah but why in the world would you like to do that? | 12:13 |
| sivang | :) | 12:13 |
| sivang | lamont_r : btw, what's the _r stands for? | 12:13 |
| lamont_r | roving | 12:14 |
| Mithrandir | reentrant | 12:14 |
| bob2 | sivang: he's coming to you LIVE via satellite | 12:14 |
| Treenaks | retard? | 12:14 |
| === Mithrandir twaps Treenaks | ||
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: ! | 12:15 |
| sivang | bob2 : huh? | 12:15 |
| === Riddell wishes he could be at the KDE ubuntu BoF | ||
| pitti | Treenaks: I hate your T-Shirt | 12:18 |
| Kamion | fabbione: archdetect> context? | 12:18 |
| Riddell | anyone taking notes from the BoF? | 12:18 |
| Mithrandir | why was the Live CD BOF moved? | 12:18 |
| Treenaks | pitti: I hate yours too | 12:18 |
| pitti | Treenaks: guess which T-Shirt fabbione wears under his pullover... | 12:19 |
| Treenaks | omfg? | 12:19 |
| pitti | Treenaks: yes, it's what you suspect | 12:19 |
| Treenaks | pitti: I'm lucky daniels and I didn't wear the "pixelated communism" one on the same day :) | 12:19 |
| thom | i really dig that tshirt | 12:22 |
| Treenaks | thom: you're wearing it too? | 12:22 |
| thom | no, i want one of the pixelated communism ones | 12:22 |
| azeem | Treenaks: I think he implies you should give it to him | 12:22 |
| thom | i have a transformers t-shirt | 12:22 |
| azeem | thom: I dig that one | 12:23 |
| Treenaks | thom: those were limited edition | 12:23 |
| thom | Treenaks: dang | 12:23 |
| Treenaks | thom: you might beg the guy from dieselsweeties.com for more... | 12:23 |
| Treenaks | or "pressure" him into it | 12:23 |
| elmo | ROBOTS IN DISGUISE | 12:25 |
| thom | BREAKDANCING | 12:25 |
| Treenaks | jordi/mako might like http://www.dieselsweeties.com/shirts/index2.shtml#recycle | 12:26 |
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| Treenaks | sivang: ask again :) | 12:27 |
| sivang | I thought I might get me self a nice ubuntu T-Shirt, or baseball cap | 12:27 |
| sivang | Treenaks : ask again? | 12:28 |
| Treenaks | sivang: yeah, lulu might know | 12:28 |
| sivang | k, I'll ask her! | 12:28 |
| lulu | sivang:? | 12:29 |
| sivang | lulu : Would you happen to have had brought some of the _wonderful_ ubuntu merchendize so ubuntu fans could purchase some? :) | 12:29 |
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| lulu | nope - we couldn't get a bulk delivery in time. But, cafepress is up and running - see the link in Quick links for the Ubuntu shop. | 12:33 |
| Kamion | I now have a Transformers theme tune earworm. YOU BASTARDS | 12:33 |
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| bob2 | TRANSFORMERS, more than meets the eye! | 12:39 |
| Kamion | mdz: is anyone already working on adding l-r-m for powerpc/amd64 to linux-meta? | 12:41 |
| Kamion | if not, I can | 12:41 |
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| Kamion | Riddell: not sure who's taking notes, but we have a rule that all BoFs have to have notes taken from them, so I'm sure they'll appear | 12:48 |
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| mdz | Kamion: not to my knowledge; check with fabbione | 12:51 |
| fabbione | mdz: no i am not. i am working only on linux-source atm | 12:53 |
| Kamion | daniels: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9/2.6.9-1/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9_2.6.9-1_20041210-1037-i386-failed | 12:54 |
| daniels | Kamion: sigh | 12:55 |
| Kamion | ia64 too, for that matter | 12:55 |
| Kamion | although its failure is much scarier; i386 looks mostly like x.org build-deps | 12:55 |
| daniels | i have to say that I find the build-dep failure deeply, deeply ironic | 12:55 |
| Kamion | mdz: ok, I'll poke it then | 12:56 |
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| daniels | Kamion: hmm, ia64 is very 'special' in this regard | 12:56 |
| daniels | Kamion: would it be a problem for you if I temporarily took ia64 out of the Architecture list? | 12:58 |
| Kamion | daniels: not in the least | 01:00 |
| daniels | phat | 01:02 |
| daniels | should be uploaded in 10min or so | 01:03 |
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| lupus_ | From: hostmaster@gs1.ubuntuforums.org | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | To: de_lupus@pandora.be | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | Subject: Your mail password <KEY:2884> | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:57:43 GMT (05:57 CET) | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | Your password was changed successfully! | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | ++++++ User-Service: http://www.gs1.ubuntuforums.org | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | ++++++ MailTo: postmaster@gs1.ubuntuforums.org | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | *-*-* Mail_Scanner: No Virus | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | *-*-* PANDORA- Anti_Virus Service | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | *-*-* http://www.pandora.be | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | it has an attachment with a virus | 01:46 |
| mojo | wt...??? | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | got already 8 mails like this | 01:46 |
| mojo | hehe | 01:46 |
| mojo | seems to me | 01:46 |
| mojo | some developers want to blackmail u | 01:46 |
| lupus_ | lol :) | 01:46 |
| mojo | did u do something guilty? | 01:47 |
| mojo | lol | 01:47 |
| mojo | spamassasin is ur sidekick this time | 01:47 |
| lupus_ | is the site hacked? | 01:47 |
| lupus_ | I had once | 01:47 |
| Kamion | please don't dump this sort of thing into IRC; mail is trivially forgeable and most of us get an awful lot of forged mail already | 01:47 |
| lupus_ | hmm k | 01:48 |
| Mithrandir | amazing! I got a picture of jdub without him making funny faces. | 01:48 |
| Kamion | it's unlikely that the mail actually came from ubuntuforums.org at all, and for further information about e-mail security there are better sources of information than #ubuntu-devel. :) | 01:48 |
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| jdub_ | 13:47 < jdub> thom, Keybuk: we have a culprit /etc/dev.d/default/unmount.dev | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | 13:47 < jdub> it shouldn't be there | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | 13:47 < jdub> (conffile not removed) | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | when commenting out the umount -l, it doesn't happen | 01:49 |
| Kamion | mojo: BTW, not many developers are actually involved in ubuntuforums.org | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | reproducible | 01:49 |
| mjg59 | <Mithrandir> amazing! I got a picture of jdub without him making funny faces. | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | we can't figure it out :-) | 01:49 |
| mjg59 | Mithrandir: Now you have to die | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | FUCK Mithrandir | 01:49 |
| Kamion | jdub_: isn't that the same as lamont discovered the other day? | 01:49 |
| jdub_ | Kamion: he did? | 01:50 |
| Kamion | uh-huh | 01:50 |
| Kamion | hadn't fully figured out the right solution last I checked | 01:50 |
| jdub_ | so you guys handily kept it to yourselves? :) | 01:50 |
| jdub_ | and we were feeling the ABJECT PAIN? | 01:50 |
| Mithrandir | mjg59: heh | 01:50 |
| lamont__r | jdub_: discussed it in channel, etc. | 01:51 |
| lamont__r | hell, we discussed it on #ubuntu, iirc | 01:51 |
| jdub_ | lamont__r: so it turns out to be an old unremoved conffile | 01:51 |
| mojo | I'd like to contribute a hack for Ubuntu-about that include all photos of all developers | 01:51 |
| lamont__r | really? doh! | 01:51 |
| mojo | IF I have all photos of u guys | 01:51 |
| lupus_ | I just say it because one time a forum of a friend got hacked and I also got messages like this | 01:52 |
| === Kamion would rather not have his photo distributed on everyone's desktop, thanks | ||
| mojo | Kamion: lol, as u wish, privacy must be respected | 01:53 |
| Kamion | we could have jdub in his normal working-at-home clothing | 01:53 |
| Kamion | ... or perhaps not | 01:54 |
| lamont__r | Kamion: head and shoulders only | 01:54 |
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| === jdub_ eyes the channel. | ||
| Kamion | daniels: l-r-m 2.6.9-2 failed on i386, different way | 01:55 |
| lamont__r | jdub: ew. wet. | 01:55 |
| Kamion | daniels: oh, missing build-dep on whatever provides xf86vmode.h | 01:55 |
| elmo | Rejected: nvidia-glx-dev_1.0.6629-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: old version (1.0.6629-0ubuntu1) in hoary >= new version (1.0.6629-0ubuntu1 | 01:56 |
| elmo | ) targeted at hoary. | 01:56 |
| elmo | daniels: ^--- | 01:56 |
| lamont__r | daniels: are you really camm? | 01:56 |
| Kamion | miaow | 01:57 |
| robtaylor|mataro | mdz: you around? | 01:57 |
| jdub_ | BONG | 01:57 |
| daniels | elmo: danke | 01:57 |
| mjg59 | daniels: Dude, you suck | 01:57 |
| === fabbione hands a cluebat to Kamion, elmo and lamont | ||
| === fabbione points the sodomotron to daniels | ||
| daniels | lamont__r: camm? | 01:58 |
| lamont__r | upload, curse, repeat. | 01:59 |
| lamont__r | daniels: nm | 01:59 |
| robtaylor|mataro | amu: do you know if mdz's d-i livecd niceness is playable with? | 02:04 |
| robtaylor|mataro | arch repo? | 02:04 |
| fabbione | mjg59: do we have anything missing in the kernel? | 02:04 |
| fabbione | like new acpi or something? | 02:05 |
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| mjg59 | fabbione: There is new acpi, but I don't think any of it's needed right at the moment | 02:05 |
| mjg59 | 2.6.10 ought to be out by Christmas | 02:05 |
| fabbione | mjg59: ok.. than i am going to put 2.6.9 in maintainance and start working on 2.6.10 | 02:05 |
| === fabbione does the last feature upload for 2.6.9 | ||
| jdub_ | fabbione: woo hoo! | 02:06 |
| fabbione | jdub_: btw -5 is only one change... | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | With the exception of the craptop and Scott's thing, I've now managed working suspend to RAM on every machine I've laid hands on | 02:07 |
| fabbione | it includes compressed loop support for the livecd | 02:07 |
| ross | thom: what was the ipod reset command again? | 02:07 |
| mjg59 | daniels: Oh, there are various Xorg issues with StR if DRI is enabled, it seems | 02:07 |
| fabbione | mjg59: thom tested my laptop with suspend to ram and it seems to work fine.. so you can add another one to the list | 02:08 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: What sort do you have? | 02:08 |
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| thom | ross: inner two buttons for 5 sec iirc | 02:08 |
| thom | mjg59: did you get netapplet 1.0 packaged? i have a patch here to make it use g-s-t (from garnacho) | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | thom: Not yet | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | But, uh, my 0.99.4 packages use g-s-t | 02:09 |
| thom | hrm, they do? gar. | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | Seriously, the only change between 0.99.4 and 1.0 is that they've removed one binary and added translations and gettext support | 02:09 |
| mjg59 | It's a 4-line diff to the code | 02:10 |
| jdub_ | ahr | 02:10 |
| thom | righto, i'll just thump on 0.99.4 | 02:10 |
| mjg59 | Haha | 02:10 |
| thom | when daniels fixes my Xorg, anyway | 02:10 |
| mjg59 | fixmyx.org? | 02:10 |
| ross | thom: rock, ta | 02:10 |
| fabbione | mjg59: Compaq Armada M700 | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | mjg59@tyrosine:/etc/network$ whois fixmyx.org | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | NOT FOUND | 02:11 |
| mjg59 | fabbione: Rocking | 02:11 |
| fabbione | ALWAYS | 02:16 |
| fabbione | actually... 2.6.9 has a broken ipv6 | 02:18 |
| fabbione | HMMM | 02:18 |
| === fabbione goes and checks the diff | ||
| haggai | Riddell: http://www.credativ.com/~cha/kubuntu/kubuntu-start.sxi | 02:22 |
| haggai | Riddell: don't take the logo too seriously, I just knocked it up during the previous BOF :) | 02:22 |
| haggai | in fact, I knocked up the whole thing during the previous bof | 02:23 |
| haggai | maybe something to do with the fact that jdub_ didn't tell me I had a bof | 02:23 |
| jdub_ | haha | 02:23 |
| haggai | ok, he told me I had a bof, just not when | 02:24 |
| fabbione | argh no | 02:27 |
| fabbione | we can't pull in the changes for ipv6 easily | 02:27 |
| fabbione | it looks like they break the ABI | 02:27 |
| fabbione | [PATCH] ATA over Ethernet driver for 2.6.9 <- *shrugs* | 02:29 |
| jdub | heh | 02:29 |
| jdub | WOO! | 02:29 |
| fabbione | no | 02:34 |
| fabbione | this is NOT going in | 02:34 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: but it's craaack | 02:34 |
| daniels | wtf? | 02:35 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir: i know :-) | 02:35 |
| fabbione | i am freezinf 2.6.9 with -5 | 02:35 |
| fabbione | and start working on 2.6.10 | 02:35 |
| fabbione | so it has all the time to go upstream | 02:35 |
| fabbione | ;) | 02:35 |
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| fabbione | CRAAAAAK | 02:37 |
| fabbione | :P | 02:37 |
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| Q-FUNK | Can I paste about 5 lines of errors that procps gives me during installation? | 02:40 |
| Keybuk | LAMONT!!!!!!!!!!)$*("$(*!($*("$*!_$*_!($*"! | 02:47 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: did you find the hotplug bug? | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | yes | 02:48 |
| pitti | Keybuk: indeed? | 02:48 |
| fabbione | and? | 02:48 |
| Keybuk | pitti: as *soon* as you stood up, it did it | 02:48 |
| pitti | I'll come down again | 02:48 |
| fabbione | ahaha | 02:48 |
| lamont__r | Keybuk: yes? | 02:49 |
| Keybuk | lamont__r: please report to the ballroom for a beating | 02:49 |
| lamont_r | ?? | 02:49 |
| lamont_r | hotplug or something else? | 02:49 |
| === lamont_r fears | ||
| lamont_r | or is it time to string cat5 to the rooms? | 02:50 |
| Keybuk | lamont_r: can you do something for me ... | 02:50 |
| Keybuk | login as root, or use sudo | 02:50 |
| Keybuk | cd / | 02:50 |
| Keybuk | umount -l "" | 02:50 |
| lamont_r | Keybuk: could you do me a favor? make udev remove old dead conffiles.../ | 02:51 |
| Keybuk | only if you do me a favour and fix umount to not accept "" and then canonicalise it by prepending the current working directory :p | 02:52 |
| lamont_r | deal | 02:52 |
| carlos | This looks like "chain of favours" | 02:52 |
| carlos | ;-) | 02:52 |
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| Q-FUNK | udev.. bah, just make it work. | 02:54 |
| Kamion | Q-FUNK: procps> file a bug | 02:55 |
| Q-FUNK | Kamion: I wanted to first check if this was a known issue. | 02:55 |
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| Kamion | go ahead | 02:55 |
| Kamion | fabbione: did you confirm drivers/block/cloop.o? | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | Setting up procps (3.2.1-2ubuntu3) ... | 02:56 |
| Kamion | .ko, rather | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | * Setting kernel variables... | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | error: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation' is an unknown key | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | error: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode' is an unknown key | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | *ror: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode' is an unknown key [fail] | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | invoke-rc.d: initscript procps.sh, action "start" failed. | 02:56 |
| Q-FUNK | dpkg: error processing procps (--configure): | 02:56 |
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| lamont_r | fabbione: is there a 2.6.9-4 then? | 02:56 |
| Kamion | uh, I guess that'd be my fault, let me look | 02:56 |
| Kamion | Q-FUNK: what architecture? | 02:57 |
| Q-FUNK | powerpc | 02:57 |
| Kamion | huh - but not a mac? | 02:57 |
| fabbione | Kamion: drivers/block/cloop.ko | 02:57 |
| fabbione | lamont_r: -4 was up yesterday | 02:58 |
| Kamion | Q-FUNK: do you have a /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid directory? | 02:58 |
| Q-FUNK | Kamion: yes, an iMac. | 02:58 |
| fabbione | lamont_r: i am going to upload -5 today | 02:58 |
| Q-FUNK | Kamion: none. | 02:58 |
| fabbione | Kamion: can you give me the next version for kernel-wedge? so i can build-dep on it? | 02:58 |
| Kamion | fabbione: 1.25ubuntu6 | 02:59 |
| Kamion | Q-FUNK: freaky. please file a bug, assign to cjwatson@canonical.com | 02:59 |
| fabbione | Kamion: tahnks | 02:59 |
| Kamion | fabbione: uploaded | 03:01 |
| fabbione | Kamion: cool | 03:01 |
| fabbione | Kamion: uploading the kernel now.. lamont will have to depwait MUHA MUHA MUHA | 03:02 |
| lamont_r | hrmpf | 03:03 |
| Kamion | fabbione: s'not like kernel-wedge takes long to build ... | 03:03 |
| fabbione | Kamion: it's not like it will hit the archive before the kernel will attempt its build :-P | 03:03 |
| Kamion | true :) | 03:03 |
| fabbione | oh actually it can make it | 03:03 |
| fabbione | it's 02 | 03:03 |
| fabbione | iirc at 03 or something there is the end of the day | 03:03 |
| fabbione | Kamion: there.. uploaded | 03:05 |
| lamont_r | fabbione: uploads get processed every 5 minutes (:00), and cron.daily happens at :[03] 3. You have to upload before :00 or :30 for it to make it. | 03:07 |
| lamont_r | note the _before_ | 03:07 |
| fabbione | yeah | 03:09 |
| fabbione | probably Kamion managed before that | 03:09 |
| Q-FUNK | Kamion: I'm still unsure which option to set in reportbug to assign the bug to yourself specifically. | 03:09 |
| fabbione | i am sure i didn't | 03:09 |
| Kamion | fabbione: no, I didn't | 03:09 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:09 |
| fabbione | no bigge | 03:09 |
| Kamion | Q-FUNK: don't use reportbug, use bugzilla.ubuntu.com | 03:09 |
| fabbione | ;) | 03:09 |
| Q-FUNK | Kamion: ARGH. no thanks. I'm not gonna create yet another user on yet another free software project's own Bugzilla. | 03:10 |
| Kamion | sorry, it's not my idea | 03:10 |
| Kamion | we're writing something better which should allow bug submissions by e-mail | 03:11 |
| Q-FUNK | bugzilla is fine, but the user database should be shared between projects. | 03:11 |
| Q-FUNK | I know it's not necessarily your idea. | 03:11 |
| === Kamion wonders if that'd be legal in the UK (data protection) | ||
| Q-FUNK | it's just that I'm about to reach the threshold where I become allergic to free software, because of the lack of integration on simple things like sharing the user/password database betwwen all bugzillas. | 03:13 |
| azeem | eh, that's not a simple thing | 03:13 |
| azeem | socially-wise | 03:13 |
| Kamion | we won't be using bugzilla long-term. | 03:13 |
| Q-FUNK | I hate to say this, but it is one simple area where Uncle Bill had the right idea with his Passport. | 03:13 |
| Kamion | enough. we won't be using this system long-term. | 03:14 |
| ross | yeah, passport. single point of failure | 03:14 |
| Q-FUNK | ross: I find it a LOT preferable to the current case where users have to create an acocunt for every bugzilla on the earth. | 03:14 |
| Q-FUNK | but that's besides the point. I'll just blog about it instead. :) | 03:15 |
| Keybuk | lamont_r: that's my side done :) new hal will delete that file if it exists, and also won't accept DEVNAME="" in the replacement | 03:15 |
| Keybuk | fixed umount yet? | 03:15 |
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| lamont_r | Keybuk: debian uploaded, double checking hoary now | 03:24 |
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| jdub | azeem: ping? | 03:34 |
| azeem | yeah? | 03:35 |
| lamont_r | Keybuk/jdub/whomeverelse. uploaded. | 03:35 |
| lamont_r | sadly, you'll have to wait an hour for complete bliss | 03:35 |
| jdub | lamont_r: ;-) | 03:35 |
| jdub | thanks dude | 03:35 |
| jdub | azeem: your multisync packages - the binaries aren't updated? | 03:36 |
| jdub | azeem: nothing new to update here, just wanted to check | 03:36 |
| lamont_r | jdub: sorry for blaming it 100% on hal... | 03:36 |
| jdub | everyone else did ;) | 03:36 |
| azeem | jdub: well, the prior packages used to be a full sync with cvs. The ones I just announced only sync the evo2-plugin. Thus, they are 0.82_ while the others are 0.82+0.83cvs20041206 or something | 03:37 |
| azeem | so there *are* new binaries, but they sort lower | 03:37 |
| jdub | oh | 03:37 |
| jdub | bong :) | 03:38 |
| azeem | greatly simplifies the patch, though :) | 03:38 |
| daniels | PAAANTS | 03:38 |
| Keybuk | PAAAATCH | 03:39 |
| jdub | azeem: the synce should use the standard naming :/ | 03:39 |
| azeem | yeah | 03:40 |
| jdub | $ apt-cache show multisync | grep ^Version | 03:41 |
| jdub | Version: 0.82-3.2ubuntu1 | 03:41 |
| jdub | that's right? | 03:41 |
| azeem | yeah | 03:41 |
| jdub | lots of evo plugin dep problems | 03:41 |
| azeem | bah | 03:41 |
| jdub | libmultisync-plugin-evolution: Depends: libebook8 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable | 03:41 |
| jdub | Depends: libecal6 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable | 03:41 |
| jdub | Depends: libedata-book1 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable | 03:41 |
| jdub | Depends: libedata-cal5 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable | 03:41 |
| jdub | Depends: libedataserver3 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable | 03:41 |
| jdub | 03:42 | |
| jdub | did you build on unstable, or...? :) | 03:42 |
| fabbione | thom: where is located the printer? | 03:42 |
| jdub | in the hack room | 03:42 |
| azeem | maybe I forgot -d hoary this time, hang on | 03:42 |
| fabbione | thanks | 03:42 |
| azeem | jdub: bah | 03:42 |
| jdub | um | 03:42 |
| azeem | rebuilding now, sorry | 03:43 |
| jdub | i can rebuild | 03:43 |
| jdub | just pulling the source now | 03:43 |
| azeem | cool, thanks | 03:43 |
| pitti | ogra_: ping | 03:43 |
| azeem | I'll update the binaries I mentioned anyway | 03:43 |
| fabbione | jdub: how do i print a simple text file to it? | 03:44 |
| fabbione | cups already see it (apparently) | 03:44 |
| pitti | fabbione: don't just send the raw ascii file, it will mess up the page borders | 03:44 |
| pitti | fabbione: I printed it from OO.o | 03:44 |
| fabbione | ok | 03:44 |
| pitti | fabbione: the keysigning list, I suppose? :-) | 03:45 |
| === jdub looks at azeem | ||
| jdub | Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/ubuntu-hoary/./multisync_0.82.orig.tar.gz 404 Not Found | 03:46 |
| seb128 | ah ah | 03:46 |
| jdub | :-) | 03:46 |
| azeem | jdub: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/multisync/multisync_0.82.orig.tar.gz | 03:47 |
| fabbione | pitti: yeps | 03:47 |
| azeem | ;) | 03:48 |
| azeem | but I'll upload it to my place for convenience | 03:48 |
| jdub | ok, ok | 03:48 |
| jdub | i'll just grab that | 03:49 |
| jdub | azeem: still build-deps on old soup and gal | 03:51 |
| azeem | ah, didn't know there was a new one | 03:52 |
| lamont_r | fabbione: print 2 copies, eh? | 03:52 |
| jdub | hrm | 03:52 |
| jdub | and stuff that doesn't exist... | 03:53 |
| azeem | like? | 03:53 |
| jdub | libglade-dev | 03:53 |
| lamont_r | Kamion: around for a question? | 03:53 |
| azeem | hrm | 03:55 |
| Kamion | lamont_r: yeah | 03:55 |
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| azeem | Note, selecting libglade0-dev instead of libglade-dev | 03:55 |
| azeem | should it take another one? | 03:55 |
| lamont_r | azeem: say hello to build-depending on a virtual package | 03:56 |
| azeem | lamont_r: hey, it's not my package, I'm just trying to fix it for you guys :p | 03:57 |
| lamont_r | it's fine like it is | 03:57 |
| lamont_r | that is, that is a note, not an error. | 03:57 |
| azeem | jdub seemd to imply otherwise, that's why I qouted it | 03:57 |
| lamont_r | Kamion: elilo-installer is ftbfs... control declares it to be arch: ia64, but the package builds indep-only... | 03:58 |
| lamont_r | what was the corner case of packages that were arch: all wrt dependencies and arch: <specific>? | 03:58 |
| lamont_r | that is, which direction of dependencies was bad? | 03:58 |
| Kamion | uh ... either? | 03:59 |
| Kamion | it's only for binNMUs though isn't it? | 03:59 |
| Kamion | unless I'm missing something | 03:59 |
| lamont_r | how so? i386 depends: all shouldn't be an issue, right? | 03:59 |
| Kamion | sure will, if the depends: is (= ${Source-Version}) | 03:59 |
| lamont_r | had to do with moving into testing. istr it was arch: all depends arch: i386-only package --> not installable on !i386 | 03:59 |
| lamont_r | or something like that | 04:00 |
| lamont_r | multiple source packages here | 04:00 |
| lamont_r | so no version'ed depends at all. | 04:00 |
| Kamion | oh, right, testing special-cases i386 for validating arch: all dependencies if that's what you mean? | 04:00 |
| Kamion | I'll fix elilo-installer, thanks | 04:00 |
| azeem | jdub: libgal-dev and libsoup2.2-dev should be alright? | 04:00 |
| lamont_r | I have the upload prepared, changing it to arch: all in control. | 04:00 |
| Kamion | uh, no | 04:00 |
| lamont_r | just wanted to make sure I wasn't on crack. | 04:00 |
| Kamion | please don't | 04:00 |
| lamont_r | ok | 04:01 |
| azeem | eh | 04:01 |
| Kamion | we actively don't want elilo-installer on other arches, it'll break stuff | 04:01 |
| azeem | libgal2.4-dev, rather | 04:01 |
| Kamion | lamont_r: switch debian/rules round instead | 04:01 |
| lamont_r | ah, right. | 04:01 |
| lamont_r | ok. | 04:01 |
| lamont_r | should I, or do you really want it? | 04:01 |
| Kamion | go ahead, I'll do it upstream as well | 04:01 |
| lamont_r | ok. | 04:02 |
| lamont_r | dannf doesn't mind? | 04:02 |
| lamont_r | already filed the bug in debian's bts... | 04:02 |
| Kamion | d-i's cooperatively maintained in general | 04:02 |
| Kamion | I'll do it when I next read -boot | 04:02 |
| lamont_r | ah, right. dannf is uploader, not maint. my bad | 04:03 |
| Kamion | although certainly if he wants to do it it makes life easier, since he actually has a system to upload it on ... | 04:04 |
| lamont_r | heh | 04:05 |
| fabbione | mdz, Kamion, elmo: can we promote silo, silo-installer, sparc-utils and genromfs to main? the first 3 packages are mandatory to boot/d-i, the last one to build world * | 04:06 |
| fabbione | they are all for sparc so it shouldn't be a big deal | 04:06 |
| fabbione | well genromfs is arch any... | 04:06 |
| === lamont_r uploads with hopes for the first iteration | ||
| azeem | jdub: I've uploaded a 0.82-3.2ubuntu2 source package | 04:10 |
| Keybuk | so now I have to teach ifup to ignore interfaces that don't exist | 04:10 |
| azeem | * debian/control (Build-Depends): Updated to libglade2-dev, | 04:10 |
| azeem | libsoup2.2-dev and libgal2.4-dev. | 04:10 |
| Keybuk | this file is full of crack! | 04:14 |
| === Keybuk makes rude gestures at aj | ||
| jdub | azeem: thanks | 04:14 |
| jdub | totem or mplayer -> http://192.168.0.109.8800/ | 04:15 |
| jdub | totem or mplayer -> http://192.168.0.109:8800/ | 04:15 |
| aj | what? | 04:15 |
| Keybuk | illiterate programming :-/ | 04:16 |
| Keybuk | :p | 04:16 |
| aj | you're telling ifup to bring interfaces up/down when they don't exist and you're whining when it objects to that? | 04:16 |
| Keybuk | yes | 04:16 |
| aj | crazy freak | 04:16 |
| Keybuk | ifup -a whines that interfaces don't exist | 04:16 |
| aj | lamont: poke | 04:16 |
| Keybuk | because the modules aren't loaded yet | 04:16 |
| Keybuk | the alternative is to remove the auto lines for them and make hotplug load all interfaces | 04:16 |
| aj | hotplug/ifupdown interaction is a bit flakey | 04:17 |
| Keybuk | yeah, I'm fixing it | 04:17 |
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| pitti | ogra_: you have mail | 04:18 |
| Keybuk | well, breaking it quite heavily at the moment | 04:19 |
| === aj pokes lamont_r again | ||
| Keybuk | but fixing is on the cards :) | 04:19 |
| elmo | lamont's wandered off | 04:20 |
| aj | typical | 04:20 |
| aj | elmo: what was with the tetex nmu? did lamont really not mail the bts/maintainer? | 04:20 |
| Keybuk | lamont summoned | 04:20 |
| lamont_r | aj: sup? | 04:21 |
| mdz | amu: nc 192.168.0.97 1234 | tar xvf - | 04:21 |
| lamont_r | aj: oh that. | 04:22 |
| lamont_r | connectivity was crap for email yesterday for me. | 04:22 |
| lamont_r | and was having general frustration with TCP sessions in general (crappy wireless reception where I was and couldn't leave) | 04:22 |
| lamont_r | and I fear I let the NMU get ahead of the email | 04:23 |
| lamont_r | bts has mail... | 04:23 |
| aj | fair enough | 04:23 |
| lamont_r | there were mumblings in irc before and after the NMU as well. | 04:23 |
| lamont_r | (from me that is.) | 04:23 |
| lamont_r | and I should have really read the topic here. | 04:24 |
| lamont_r | sigh | 04:24 |
| lamont_r | and I apologized for my poor execution of process to the maintainer as well. | 04:24 |
| aj | sure, i was being sceptical, not critical | 04:25 |
| lamont_r | aj: will be more precise in my execution henceforth | 04:25 |
| Keybuk | "lamont in unexpected NMU shocker" :p | 04:25 |
| aj | (lamont, not know how to nmu? huh?) | 04:25 |
| lamont_r | it was a shade too weakly ordered today. | 04:25 |
| amu | mdz: done; thx | 04:25 |
| lamont_r | aj: various excuses, etc, etc. I will admit to weak ordering being pretty common, but the mail to the bts is usually right behind the upload when I do that... | 04:26 |
| lamont_r | this one was weakly and widely ordered... (As in woke up this morning and went 'damn. I forgot to mail the bts last night'.) | 04:26 |
| aj | lamont: how come you haven't setup a script that sends the mail as part of uploading? | 04:27 |
| lamont_r | aj: was actually thinking this morning (as I uploaded util-linux) of doing a debian upload script... | 04:28 |
| lamont_r | since uploading debian packages correctly is a pain for me now. | 04:32 |
| lamont_r | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S ; sbuild; mergechanges; debsign; dput | 04:32 |
| azeem | lamont_r: sbuild in unstable has an -s option for building sourceful/binary uploads properly... | 04:32 |
| lamont_r | azeem: I've had issues with that in the past, but may just go play with it some more | 04:33 |
| azeem | I fixed it a while ago | 04:33 |
| lamont_r | cool | 04:33 |
| lamont_r | which version? sometime before 2004.09.06? | 04:34 |
| azeem | hmm, guess so | 04:37 |
| azeem | not sure | 04:37 |
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| azeem | lamont_r: #239339 has a patch | 04:43 |
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| lamont_r | thanks | 04:49 |
| haggai | any of the pygtk chaps aounrd? | 05:01 |
| Mithrandir | incredible, ooo finished building. | 05:01 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: congratz | 05:01 |
| Mithrandir | didn't install successfully, though | 05:01 |
| daniels | Mithrandir: whoops | 05:02 |
| _rene_ | hmm? what did you use? CVS HEAD? | 05:02 |
| Mithrandir | _rene_: no, I'm hacking on the gvfs problem | 05:02 |
| _rene_ | there was a rm and cvs rm missing to a few mins | 05:02 |
| _rene_ | ah, ok | 05:02 |
| haggai | remon: | 05:02 |
| haggai | oops | 05:02 |
| haggai | _rene_: it's still -2 | 05:03 |
| _rene_ | didn't know on what Mithrandir tested with, so ;-) | 05:03 |
| === Mithrandir scratches head | ||
| _rene_ | s/on // | 05:03 |
| _rene_ | args | 05:03 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: same problem here. install: cannot stat `tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so': No such file or directory | 05:04 |
| haggai | where are the pygtk guys hiding? | 05:04 |
| haggai | comeon there's a whole pygtk bof happening, there's gotta be someone here already | 05:05 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: I don't have any targets depending on tools.gnomevfs.. | 05:05 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: $(STAMP_DIR)/install-arch: debian/openoffice.org$(VER)-gnomevfs.install | 05:08 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: you rock. | 05:08 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > ldd ./tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so | grep gnomevfs | 05:08 |
| Mithrandir | libgnomevfs-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 (0xb7eb8000) | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > ldd ./tools/unxlngi4.pro/lib/libtl645li.so | grep gnomevfs | 05:09 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > | 05:09 |
| haggai | oooh :) | 05:09 |
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| Keybuk | tollef statically linked openoffice? | 05:14 |
| Keybuk | or just linked it to gnomevfs | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | I _stopped_ linking it to ooo | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | s/ooo/gvfs | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | so elmo won't cry. | 05:14 |
| Mithrandir | not much, at least. | 05:14 |
| Keybuk | aww | 05:15 |
| Keybuk | no love | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | the ooo-bin shouldn't link to gvfs, the ooo-gnomevfs should | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | right now, both does. | 05:15 |
| Mithrandir | debuild -S for ooo takes more time thank building binaries for most other packages I maintain. | 05:19 |
| === Keybuk sings the "It's all so crackful" song | ||
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| Mithrandir | debuild -S on OOO takes approximately one apache2. | 05:23 |
| _rene_ | Mithrandir: hehe | 05:30 |
| _rene_ | I usually keep two identical trees around when doing uploads | 05:30 |
| Mithrandir | I'm serious. | 05:31 |
| _rene_ | one for the source, one for the binaries | 05:31 |
| Mithrandir | and apache is slooooow | 05:31 |
| _rene_ | build the binaries -> works -> checkin -> cvs up -> debuild -S -> mergechanges | 05:31 |
| _rene_ | roughly that way | 05:31 |
| _rene_ | so I don't have to build the sourcepkg over and over ;-) | 05:31 |
| Mithrandir | and I'm after a tiny patch for you/chris | 05:32 |
| daniels | we will have the quickest. boot. ever. | 05:33 |
| Mithrandir | slooooow. | 05:35 |
| daniels | make openoffice load quicker | 05:36 |
| Mithrandir | make it diff quicker. | 05:36 |
| Mithrandir | I don't care about loading, I just want to diff it. :P | 05:37 |
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| haggai | _rene_: we had a brainstorming session yesterday about getting OOo to load quicker | 05:47 |
| haggai | _rene_: keybuk reckons we'd be far better if we linked everything into 1 huuge lib | 05:48 |
| _rene_ | isn't there some option which created one binary? | 05:48 |
| haggai | _rene_: he says since its memmapped it won't take up swap or memory | 05:48 |
| _rene_ | s/ed/es/ | 05:48 |
| _rene_ | but that would hurt external extensions | 05:48 |
| haggai | _rene_: I don't think so, only an option to create a large zip file for install instead of the little ones | 05:48 |
| haggai | _rene_: why would it hurt them? | 05:49 |
| _rene_ | since they often link against lib*645??.so | 05:49 |
| haggai | well we could leave the libs around if we wanted, just leave them pretty empty | 05:49 |
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| tim1 | hello | 05:50 |
| tim1 | i need scrnsaver.h to compile beagle, packages.debian.org says it is in the 'xlibs-devel' package, but the ubuntu package doesn't seem to contain that file | 05:51 |
| _rene_ | xlibs-static-dev (on sarge) | 05:53 |
| _rene_ | you probably looked in woody. don't :) | 05:53 |
| tim1 | i have both installed | 05:53 |
| tim1 | isn't in there either | 05:54 |
| Mithrandir | _rene_, haggai: http://err.no/patches/openoffice-gnomevfs-link.diff | 05:54 |
| haggai | tim1: search the Contents.gz files in the ftp archive | 05:54 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: cheers | 05:55 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: does it look ok to you? | 05:55 |
| _rene_ | didn't we want to make that logic reversed? | 05:55 |
| haggai | _rene_: yes, that's why I said to you it needs work before checking in | 05:56 |
| === haggai looks for someone to help with openoffice | ||
| _rene_ | ah, ok | 05:56 |
| haggai | what was it, waitresses? | 05:56 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: does it come with an eight-way dual-core opteron system with 48GB memory and 15k RPM SCSI disks? | 05:57 |
| Mithrandir | because else, people will die of old age before it finishes compiling | 05:57 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: uh, sure. But I'll not tell you where to find it in the huuuge project hehe | 05:57 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 05:58 |
| thom | lala, 36 seconds with old hotplug | 05:59 |
| daniels | THIRTY-SIX. | 06:00 |
| jordi | daniels: rock | 06:00 |
| tim1 | haggai: the contents.gz list it in xlibs-static-dev | 06:00 |
| tim1 | but i have that one installed | 06:01 |
| tim1 | still mssing .. | 06:01 |
| daniels | tim1: libxss-dev | 06:01 |
| tim1 | daniels: thanks very much, i think that's it | 06:03 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: what is the 1.10 arch branch in your repo? | 06:05 |
| Keybuk | scott@netsplit.com--2004/dpkg--stable--1.10 | 06:06 |
| Mithrandir | thx | 06:06 |
| jdub | http://192.168.0.93:8800/ | 06:09 |
| ross | oh oh oh | 06:11 |
| ross | i wonder what is there | 06:11 |
| jdub | flumotion stream :) | 06:11 |
| daniels | jdub: ogg vorbis stream of the bof? | 06:11 |
| jdub | theora | 06:11 |
| jdub | no sound | 06:11 |
| Mithrandir | rob taylor, mako, amaya and helix | 06:12 |
| ross | jdub: rock! make it external | 06:12 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: what kind of cam is it you have? | 06:12 |
| daniels | jdub: NICE! | 06:12 |
| ross | ross: and take it to the pub | 06:12 |
| jdub | Mithrandir: logitech quickcam | 06:12 |
| jdub | ross: trying | 06:12 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: does it come with the laptop screen thing by default? | 06:13 |
| jdub | yeah | 06:13 |
| jdub | handy | 06:13 |
| Mithrandir | neat | 06:13 |
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| Mithrandir | jdub: the streaming thing is packaged? | 06:16 |
| haggai | waah I only see a blue screen | 06:17 |
| jdub | Mithrandir: flumotion | 06:17 |
| jdub | haggai: what are you using to watch the stream? | 06:17 |
| haggai | jdub: totem | 06:18 |
| jdahlin | hmm, I can't get openoffice to run | 06:18 |
| jdub | gstreamer or xine? | 06:18 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: packaged? :) | 06:18 |
| jdub | Mithrandir: ... as flumotion :) | 06:19 |
| === jdahlin looks at mdz | ||
| Mithrandir | oh, ok | 06:19 |
| jdub | jdahlin: look at haggai :-) | 06:19 |
| === haggai looks at his blue screen | ||
| jdahlin | jdub: oh, I thought the last entry in the changelog is the maintainer applied even to ubuntu | 06:19 |
| jdub | jdahlin: it does, but haggai is the MAIN MAN | 06:20 |
| haggai | jdahlin: if you'd like some help you need to be more specific please | 06:20 |
| === Mithrandir gets display corruption from totem | ||
| jdub | haggai: for totem-gstreamer, you can look at jdahlin | 06:20 |
| === jdub snickers. | ||
| === haggai grins | ||
| jdahlin | haggai: I removed an old .sversionrc and .openoffice*, but it still fails to startup | 06:20 |
| tseng | are you dudes looking for bug reports against swsusp now? | 06:20 |
| jdub | haggai: probably worth trying totem-xine | 06:20 |
| tseng | or just a test run | 06:20 |
| jdahlin | haggai: complaining that I have no entry for 1.1.3 in .sversionrc | 06:20 |
| jdub | tseng: for 2.6.9 kernels? yeah! | 06:20 |
| tseng | ya | 06:20 |
| jdahlin | BBB@#gstreamer is the perfect guy for totem-gstreamer | 06:21 |
| === tseng hits bugzilla | ||
| haggai | jdub: what console output do you get? And are there any soffice.bin processes hanging around? | 06:21 |
| haggai | uuh | 06:21 |
| haggai | jdahlin: | 06:21 |
| haggai | sorry I was too lazy to type enough | 06:21 |
| haggai | I have totem-gstreamer installed | 06:22 |
| jdahlin | $ openoffice | 06:22 |
| jdahlin | OpenOffice.org for Debian - see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz | 06:22 |
| jdahlin | running openoffice.org setup... | 06:22 |
| jdahlin | Setup did not complete properly - cannot find an entry in ~/.sversionrc | 06:22 |
| jdub | haggai: yeah, try totem-xine | 06:22 |
| jdahlin | that's what I get | 06:22 |
| haggai | jdahlin: oh cool that breaks ubuntu-desktop | 06:22 |
| haggai | arrgh | 06:22 |
| haggai | that was for jdub | 06:23 |
| jdahlin | seems like libtheora is broken on amd64 aswell | 06:23 |
| haggai | jdahlin: what's in the setup logfile under .openoffice? | 06:23 |
| jdahlin | haggai: everything seems fine in there | 06:24 |
| haggai | jdahlin: and you don't have an .sversionrc? | 06:24 |
| jdahlin | haggai: well I had, but README.Debian told me to remove it | 06:24 |
| jdahlin | so, no I don't | 06:24 |
| haggai | jdahlin: but the 'running openoffice.org setup...' step should recreate it | 06:24 |
| jdahlin | haggai: what do I need to put in the file? | 06:25 |
| haggai | jdahlin: nothing, OOo makes it | 06:25 |
| haggai | I still get a blue screen, even with totem-xine | 06:26 |
| jdahlin | haggai: but to do it manually I mean | 06:29 |
| jdahlin | jdub: I need streaming love tomorrow | 06:29 |
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| haggai | jdahlin: you never need to do it manually | 06:29 |
| haggai | jdahlin: and you say setup.log is ok :-/ | 06:30 |
| haggai | ffice.org setup...' step should recreate it | 06:30 |
| haggai | sorry | 06:30 |
| haggai | [Versions] | 06:30 |
| haggai | OpenOffice.org 1.1.3=file:///home/chris/.openoffice/1.1.1 | 06:30 |
| jdahlin | OK set profile item: file:///home/jdahlin/.sversionrc, Versions, OpenOffice.org 1.1.2, file:///home/jdahlin/.openoff | 06:30 |
| jdahlin | ice/1.1.3 | 06:30 |
| haggai | but as I said, you never need to create it by hand | 06:31 |
| haggai | versions 1.1.2?? | 06:31 |
| jdahlin | hmm, it's created now | 06:31 |
| haggai | do you have package skew? | 06:31 |
| jdahlin | s/1.1.2/1.1.3/ in .sversionrc fixes it | 06:31 |
| jdahlin | yeah, I seem to have | 06:32 |
| jdahlin | openoffice.org-bin is 1.1.2 | 06:32 |
| jdahlin | the rest seems to be 1.1.3 | 06:32 |
| jdahlin | except documentation, which is 1.1 | 06:32 |
| haggai | jdahlin: ok, those deps should be tightened up then. Thanks | 06:32 |
| haggai | Package: openoffice.org | 06:34 |
| jdahlin | haggai: you're welcome. ping me if you want me to test a new version | 06:34 |
| haggai | Depends: openoffice.org-debian-files (>> 1.1.2+1.1.3), openoffice.org-bin (>> 1.1.2+1.1.3) | 06:34 |
| haggai | jdahlin: in the source it's ok | 06:34 |
| === haggai scratches head | ||
| jdahlin | I installed warty here and upgraded to hoary | 06:34 |
| haggai | but the hoary version of openoffice.org has the correct depends | 06:35 |
| haggai | so you shouldn't be able to have that happen | 06:35 |
| jdahlin | I did the upgrade 5 days ago if that matters | 06:35 |
| haggai | well, if you upgrade from an unstable distro you should always check for new versions... | 06:36 |
| haggai | I don't think in this case it would matter, though | 06:37 |
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| Q-FUNK | Kamion: http://bugs.an9.org this is the solution to the Bugzilla login. :) | 06:39 |
| jordi | jdahlin: are you around the conference now? | 06:42 |
| jdahlin | jordi: yeah | 06:43 |
| jordi | jdahlin: if so, 1) where, I want to meet you :p and 2) your room mate is here and I guess needs a key. :) | 06:43 |
| jdahlin | jordi: I'm in the main hall | 06:43 |
| jordi | cristal? | 06:43 |
| jordi | or downstairs? | 06:44 |
| jdahlin | downstairs | 06:44 |
| === jordi goes downstairs. :) | ||
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| jordi | err, not going anywhere actually :P | 06:45 |
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| mdz | haggai: that's an openoffice.org-amd64 problem | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: can you star-merge off tfheen@raw.no--2004/dpkg--main--1.10 ? It has a few changes for some wishlist bug in dpkg | 07:12 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: (and I want to test that I haven't screwed up) | 07:13 |
| Mithrandir | mdz: what's an ooo-amd64 problem? | 07:13 |
| mjg59 | thom: How long with shinyhotplug? | 07:20 |
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| haggai | mdz: aah | 07:33 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: version skew | 07:33 |
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| Simira | can anyone poke Mithrandir? Or are you signing now? | 07:41 |
| jordi | signing right now. | 07:42 |
| jordi | Just started, so it will take a while. | 07:42 |
| jordi | I'll tell him | 07:42 |
| Simira | ok | 07:42 |
| Simira | thanks | 07:42 |
| Simira | where's Erinn? | 07:43 |
| jordi | not keysigning, not sure | 07:43 |
| jordi | upstairs probably. | 07:43 |
| Simira | ok | 07:43 |
| Simira | no she's not gonna join the signing, I know. She should be online! | 07:43 |
| jordi | she has no lappy for herself tho | 07:46 |
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| Simira | huh... og | 07:50 |
| Simira | do you know if Tollef have been to the restaurant where I lost my cam? | 07:50 |
| jordi | I have no idea. Want me to ask him? | 07:51 |
| jordi | k | 07:52 |
| Simira | I'lll do it when he comes online | 07:52 |
| jordi | he went there, but had not found it, and says he'll go again with me so I can talk to them properly. | 07:52 |
| Simira | ok, that'd be great, I'd really appreciate it | 07:53 |
| jordi | I guess we'll have a look at dinner time. | 07:54 |
| Simira | yep | 07:54 |
| Simira | sounds sensible | 07:55 |
| Simira | why's everone leaving? | 07:58 |
| jordi | No idea. Both of them aren't in the keysign. | 07:59 |
| Treenaks | hi everyone :) | 08:14 |
| === Treenaks live from Barcelona Airport, gate M3 :) | ||
| Simira | hi Treenaks | 08:14 |
| Treenaks | hi Simira | 08:14 |
| sivang | Treenaks : already in home? | 08:25 |
| Treenaks | sivang: no.. I mis-calculated a bit | 08:26 |
| Treenaks | sivang: so I'm still in Spain | 08:26 |
| Treenaks | sivang: the HP/Intel people at gate M3 were so nice NOT to set a WEP key or MAC access list ;) | 08:26 |
| sivang | Treenaks : oh :-/ | 08:27 |
| Treenaks | sivang: I'll board my plane in an hour | 08:27 |
| Treenaks | it's not too bad | 08:27 |
| Treenaks | I have enough books with me :) | 08:27 |
| sivang | oh that's good :) | 08:29 |
| Treenaks | sivang: pictures on my site :) | 08:35 |
| sivang | Treenaks : as alwasy :) | 08:36 |
| Treenaks | sivang: ;) | 08:36 |
| Simira | so, there... long phone call home to assure I've had a great time :) | 08:39 |
| Simira | got your christmas-gift, Treenaks ? Or was it for birthday...? | 08:39 |
| Treenaks | Simira: birthday, and no :( | 08:39 |
| Simira | sivang: hey. Still having a good time? How was the Deban-women bof? | 08:39 |
| Treenaks | don't know what to buy | 08:39 |
| Treenaks | but I'll think of something in Amsterdam or something | 08:39 |
| Treenaks | Simira: women? there were women at the conf? ;) | 08:40 |
| sivang | Simira : sure! I didn't attend it | 08:40 |
| Simira | Treenaks: Amsterdam is nice that way. You have to make her write a list with wishes and measures for clothes and stuff! Tell her that else, you can't buy her nice surprises. | 08:40 |
| Simira | sivang: ok | 08:40 |
| Treenaks | Simira: I'm useless buying clothes anyway :) | 08:41 |
| Treenaks | Simira: I'll stick with something vaguely useful | 08:41 |
| Simira | Treenaks: buy her some sexy underwear! Tollef did to me :) (ok, I picked it, but...) | 08:41 |
| Treenaks | Simira: tollef is not your brother | 08:41 |
| Simira | right, it was your sister, not your girlfriend... my bad | 08:42 |
| Treenaks | I'll find something | 08:42 |
| Treenaks | I know a cool store in Amsterdam that sells all kinds of games | 08:42 |
| Simira | cool | 08:42 |
| Treenaks | and huge 20x20cm fluffy dice 8) | 08:42 |
| Treenaks | uh | 08:42 |
| Treenaks | 20x20x20cm | 08:42 |
| Simira | yes, they've gotten those here as well | 08:43 |
| Simira | I'm gonna get a whole set | 08:43 |
| Treenaks | they're hell to roll, but it works :) | 08:43 |
| Simira | hehe | 08:43 |
| Simira | they're supposed to hang in the mirror on your car! | 08:43 |
| Treenaks | they're a bit too large for that | 08:43 |
| Treenaks | you wouldn't be able to see a thing ;) | 08:44 |
| Simira | heh | 08:44 |
| Simira | well, the small ones are all right | 08:44 |
| Treenaks | they also have lots of weird cool puzzles | 08:44 |
| Treenaks | so I might go for one of those | 08:44 |
| Treenaks | anyway | 08:44 |
| Treenaks | my laptop is starting to beep annoyingly | 08:45 |
| Simira | ouch | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | back in ~ 3 hours ;) | 08:45 |
| Simira | have a nice trip home then | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | thanks :) | 08:45 |
| Simira | (I didn't) | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | (why not?) | 08:45 |
| sjoerd | Treenaks: nice flight ;) | 08:45 |
| Simira | Treenaks: delays and stuff | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | Simira: ah.. too bad | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | sjoerd: dankjewel :) | 08:45 |
| Treenaks | *shutdown -h now* | 08:46 |
| Simira | sjoerd :) | 08:46 |
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| fabbione | lamont_r the AP in the room is really bad | 11:31 |
| fabbione | a lot of pkts loss | 11:31 |
| Mithrandir | fabbione: worksforme | 11:34 |
| fabbione | Mithrandir : very bad here in 132 | 11:36 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: what kind of version skew? | 11:37 |
| fabbione | it seems better now | 11:38 |
| carlos | fabbione: you have it close, it's in daf's room | 11:39 |
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| sladen | fabbione: it was non-existant in 131 | 11:41 |
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