=== jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === |trey| [~trey@ip68-230-75-109.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vinsci [~vinsci@dsl-sjkgw2jb1.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jbailey [~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jaldhar [~jaldhar@69.28.190.100] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jaldhar [~jaldhar@69.28.190.100] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aj [aj-irc@azure.humbug.org.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf_ [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === netdur [~netdur@adsl-130-41-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu-devel === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:10] hi ironwolf [05:47] so how is the speed up going? [05:47] would be nice if ubuntu could boot as fast as xp [05:49] but calc remember, you need to boot xp every 30 minutes from crashes, while in ubuntu you need to boot once a month if you're unlucky === hazmat [~hazmat@c-24-15-10-12.client.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kylem [~kyle@CPE0030ab0b413b-CM023469906297.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:53] jdub: how's the conference going? [06:54] you guys definately need to do that imendio ogg streaming thing for the next one. [06:55] for the sake of us stuck in the states. :D [06:57] we'll probably have streaming stuff today [06:57] it was never an official thing, we're just hacking on it [06:57] it's more of a boffy conference than a presentations conference - perhaps having a radio-style stream of each room would be good [06:58] format makes things a bit harder [06:59] that would rule. [06:59] even raw feeds would rule. Let us figure it out, heh. [07:00] yeah, i just mean putting a high sensitivity microphone in the middle of the room and letting it run [07:01] indeed [07:02] man dude, that startup stuff is exciting. [07:02] heh [07:02] it's insane [07:02] so i was upstairs in the bof room for most of the afternoon [07:02] perhaps we should be locking you guys up in rooms more often [07:02] while thom, scott and daniels were hacking on startup stuff [07:03] downstairs in the ballroom - they'd keep taunting us with the news [07:03] is someone going to be doing a summary thinger on the conference? It'd be good to get an overall view on the stuff you guys hacked on. [07:04] there are a bunch of summaries of the bof sessions [07:04] good good [07:04] but a general summary of what everyone hacked on would be... challenging ;) === jdub should be blogging more [07:05] the list I saw had lots of DDs on it. Sounds like some good overall stuff. [07:06] yeah you should. :P daniels blog had lots of pants happy today. [07:09] ugh, I'm so behind now, should I just wait for hoary for an ubuntu review? Seems kind of overdone lately. [07:10] heh [07:10] there was even an osnews 'warty to hoary' article, man [07:12] tell me about it. I've fixed like 5 people tonite that don't know dpkg. Tough to advocate when you have people brand new to linux trying to use hoary. [07:13] yeah === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-165.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~rpGirl@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === __keybuk [~scott@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:39] http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-09%20Ubuntu%20Conference/ === ogra [~ogra@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurfix_ [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vinsci [~vinsci@dsl-sjkgw2jb1.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Klienten] [08:57] Simira: ping [08:57] morning guys [08:58] what timezone are you guys in? [08:58] pasc: CET, GMT+1 === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra_ [~ogra@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:59] ok [08:59] so 10 hours difference [09:00] jdub: pong === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:02] pasc: you left coast? === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] Hi carlos === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] pitti: hi! === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] morning === mdz [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] Simira: what's your key id? [09:08] ogg/theora stream -> http://192.168.0.52:8800/ [09:08] use totem or mplayer [09:08] jdub: tha last octet :p eedb201e [09:08] jdub: video only? [09:08] yeah [09:08] Simira: ahr [09:10] jdub: "no subtitles available"? what kind of stream is that 8) [09:10] everyone connect :) [09:10] there's only me and treenaks atm [09:10] jdub: what kind of cam is this btw? [09:11] logitech quickcam thingy [09:11] pwc driver [09:11] ah [09:14] jdub: theora? [09:15] oh, yeah, you said [09:15] jdub: that's with the flumotion streaming thingie ? [09:16] jdub: is it shit because of the came or because of theora? [09:16] Mithrandir: the colors, you mean? [09:17] sjoerd: yeah [09:17] jdub: connection refused :P [09:17] also, wouldn't multicast be more efficient? :) [09:17] Mithrandir: what kind of shit? [09:17] nice [09:17] colors all washed out [09:17] the white balance is probably on crack [09:17] yeah [09:18] shitty camera and software controls for it [09:18] add a gstreamer-whitebalance-filter? [09:18] it's already pushed > 100MB :) [09:18] Mithrandir: heh, camera needs to be configured too [09:18] taking stream down for a moment [09:20] http://192.168.0.52:8802/ [09:20] back again [09:21] all pwc cams i've seen untill now can be set on automatic mode.. [09:22] mmm, have to check the kernel options [09:22] you ned to do a pwc specific ioctl to change the mode [09:23] heh, watch mdz's disembodied hands handwave === plovs [~plovs@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] daniels: l-r-m? I can't do a test install to check out a second-stage bug that I'm being hassled about at the moment, 'cos linux-386 is uninstallable :( [09:31] haggai: *prod* === ChrisH [~chaas@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:35] back again === plovs [~plovs@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:46] /etc/init.d/hotplug start 0.41s user 0.26s system 38% cpu 1.744 total === thom watches elmo choke === mojo [~Adam@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:48] ahhemm, I don't want to disturb all developers here, but I just 1 question: When the new gnome-panel be uploaded? Without gnome-panel, my GNOME is rendered 'dead' [09:49] when it'll be ready ? :) [09:49] probably the first changes in a couple of days [09:50] thx [09:51] dead? [09:51] there's nothing broken about the panel atm === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:54] who wants to fix control-center build-dep? [09:54] it's missing libxinerama-dev [09:54] _o/ [09:55] http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/c/control-center/1:2.8.1-3ubuntu5/ [09:55] thanks for pointing that fabbione [09:55] seb128: no problem mate ;) [10:03] Mako looks kinda tired today... [10:03] I mean, more than usual [10:03] heh [10:03] he's not a morning person [10:03] definitely === Simira is leaving [10:07] buy guys [10:07] bye* [10:07] :p [10:08] Simira: bye [10:08] bye all. It's been really really great. See you online. [10:09] Are there anyway to remove mime-type default open program entries that are set 'unremovabled' via Properties? === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:17] jdub: running with a sepia filter now? [10:18] heh [10:18] no === sabdf1 [~mark@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:20] Mithrandir: morning [10:20] haggai: install failed === smurfix_ [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:22] Mithrandir: aw :( [10:23] tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so ; no such file or directory. [10:25] arasearath0n [10:26] fix the swfrender.so in RealPlayer [10:29] doko: I updated the langpack wiki [10:32] elmo: do we have a powerpc hoary chroot with glibc build-deps? [10:33] ogra_: ping [10:34] lifeless: ping [10:35] why not just a big broadcast ping? [10:37] haggai: you're not on jabber. :P ; what does the build time look like, with ccache? [10:42] ogra_: ping [10:42] pitti: pong [10:42] sjoerd: can you poke seb to turn jabber on? [10:44] what's the tool which, given a keysigning sheet and your keyring outputs who you haven't signed? [10:45] awk [10:45] there's a script which probably uses awk or perl or something, yes. [10:45] yeah :) I'd be interested in that as well [10:46] not that I get around to sign keys anyway, but it's nice to see who you could potentially sign... === catdog [~ed@83.216.156.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ross [~ross@82.133.103.122] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bitserf [~ljb@222-152-7-99.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] elmo: do we have a powerpc hoary chroot with glibc build-deps? [11:06] err, davis? [11:08] elmo: "Unknown id: pitti" [11:08] elmo: can you please allow me? [11:08] ah, a daniels [11:10] he looks rested ;) [11:11] Err http://people.ubuntulinux.org Packages [11:11] [11:11] Hit http://people.ubuntulinux.org Packages === lamont_r giggles at mvo [11:12] pitti: meh, fixed [11:12] elmo: thanks a lot === mvo ignores lamont_r [11:12] mvo: that's because you have no Packages.bz2 on your apt repository [11:12] correct :) === lamont_r giggles more [11:13] bad error message === mvo grumbles === lamont_r spanks apt [11:13] I really need to teach it to not report it as an error [11:13] Keybuk: ehehhe [11:14] or at least a more-clear error. [11:14] 20 hours until I leave === pasc taps his foot [11:14] pasc: to where? [11:15] mataro [11:16] hey pasc [11:16] pasc: cool [11:16] then 28 hours in transit until I hit barcelona [11:17] then however long it takes to get to mataro [11:17] ~40 minutes [11:17] about an hour on the train [11:17] right... so a round 30 hours of transit [11:17] assuming you don't hit barcelona so hard you splash... ;-) [11:17] 50 min +/- :-) [11:17] amu, mdz: the cloop module is part of the kernel now. it will be up in -5. I only need to finish a -D__SMP__ compilation test [11:17] Kamion: i dput'ed it last night [11:18] mjg59: pong [11:19] daniels: g1bb0r m3 m0r3 cr4ck [11:19] daniels: l-r-m? [11:19] fabbione: it's been in NEW since yesterday [11:20] daniels: you suck :P [11:24] seb128: you rock! [11:24] thanks for CC [11:25] fabbione, np :) [11:25] daniels, I've got a decent resolution on my laptop :) [11:25] daniels: aha [11:25] daniels, I had to add a Modeline for 1280x800 === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ is now known as robtaylor|mataro [11:29] seb128: heh, cool [11:30] seb128: if you file a bug with the modeline, I'll add it for the next revision [11:30] ok, thanks [11:34] ok, so my power-on-on-shutdown+lidclose bug is gone [11:34] how about the suspend-to-ram-on-wakeup-from-suspend-to-ram one? :) [11:37] Treenaks: heh === mvo_ [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:48] god, I may have made X fast enough that I'm exposing races that weren't previously there [11:49] name = jdub.create_better_name_for("hhdt") [11:49] jdub: :-) [11:49] jdub: otherwise I use hwfu [11:50] :-) [11:50] hwfu is pretty cool === catdog [~ed@83.216.156.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mirak_ [~mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-34-226.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:58] pitti: so lets keep hwfu [11:59] ogra_: I'll check it into arch then [11:59] k [11:59] my GOD this BOF is crashing my brain [11:59] ogra_: can you maintain your own branch on a public mirror? === Kamion runs away into the nice safe comfortable world of the installer [12:00] Kamion: it's currently so far over my head i'm shocked that you guys don't have anoxoia [12:00] pitti: i'll try... [12:00] thom: d-i or the BOF? [12:01] bof. i may be exagerating a touch for effect [12:01] this dropping of NEW connections is getting old [12:01] ogra_: if you make-archive to a http-accessible spot, please don't forget -l :-) [12:01] elmo: nod [12:02] pitti: i'll read the docs :) [12:02] pitti: have to do that anyway [12:03] elmo, sync for libgnomeui and libgnomecanvas please [12:03] seb128: done [12:03] thanks [12:05] Kamion: E: Package archdetect has no installation candidate [12:05] ? === sivang [~sivang@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:06] which bof is it? [12:07] kubuntu? [12:09] kubuntu. [12:09] daniels: Is there any vaguely standard way of getting nvidia stuff using the nv driver to switch between LCD and CRT? [12:09] kubuntu? [12:09] indeed, kubuntu. :-) [12:09] daniels: (Also: successful StR with nvidia chipset Toshiba) === smurfix_ [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:11] mjg59: nice! [12:11] mjg59: using nv driver? not really [12:12] Bah [12:13] sivang: think ubuntu with gnome ripped out and kde added [12:13] lamont_r : yeah but why in the world would you like to do that? [12:13] :) [12:13] lamont_r : btw, what's the _r stands for? [12:14] roving [12:14] reentrant [12:14] sivang: he's coming to you LIVE via satellite [12:14] retard? === Mithrandir twaps Treenaks [12:15] Mithrandir: ! [12:15] bob2 : huh? === Riddell wishes he could be at the KDE ubuntu BoF [12:18] Treenaks: I hate your T-Shirt [12:18] fabbione: archdetect> context? [12:18] anyone taking notes from the BoF? [12:18] why was the Live CD BOF moved? [12:18] pitti: I hate yours too [12:19] Treenaks: guess which T-Shirt fabbione wears under his pullover... [12:19] omfg? [12:19] Treenaks: yes, it's what you suspect [12:19] pitti: I'm lucky daniels and I didn't wear the "pixelated communism" one on the same day :) [12:22] i really dig that tshirt [12:22] thom: you're wearing it too? [12:22] no, i want one of the pixelated communism ones [12:22] Treenaks: I think he implies you should give it to him [12:22] i have a transformers t-shirt [12:23] thom: I dig that one [12:23] thom: those were limited edition [12:23] Treenaks: dang [12:23] thom: you might beg the guy from dieselsweeties.com for more... [12:23] or "pressure" him into it [12:25] ROBOTS IN DISGUISE [12:25] BREAKDANCING [12:26] jordi/mako might like http://www.dieselsweeties.com/shirts/index2.shtml#recycle === sivang wonders why no ubuntu merchendize was brought to the conference for purchasing. === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:27] sivang: ask again :) [12:27] I thought I might get me self a nice ubuntu T-Shirt, or baseball cap [12:28] Treenaks : ask again? [12:28] sivang: yeah, lulu might know [12:28] k, I'll ask her! [12:29] sivang:? [12:29] lulu : Would you happen to have had brought some of the _wonderful_ ubuntu merchendize so ubuntu fans could purchase some? :) === BradB_ [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] nope - we couldn't get a bulk delivery in time. But, cafepress is up and running - see the link in Quick links for the Ubuntu shop. [12:33] I now have a Transformers theme tune earworm. YOU BASTARDS === ross notes he still hasn't got his CDs === cloud [~jdahm@pcp05292366pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === cloud [~jdahm@pcp05292366pcs.wanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [12:39] TRANSFORMERS, more than meets the eye! [12:41] mdz: is anyone already working on adding l-r-m for powerpc/amd64 to linux-meta? [12:41] if not, I can === Mithrandir notes that OOo takes _FOREVER_ to build. === jordi [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:48] Riddell: not sure who's taking notes, but we have a rule that all BoFs have to have notes taken from them, so I'm sure they'll appear === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === schweeb_ [~chris@schweeb.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === martink [~martin@pD9EB259A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:51] Kamion: not to my knowledge; check with fabbione [12:53] mdz: no i am not. i am working only on linux-source atm [12:54] daniels: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9/2.6.9-1/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9_2.6.9-1_20041210-1037-i386-failed [12:55] Kamion: sigh [12:55] ia64 too, for that matter [12:55] although its failure is much scarier; i386 looks mostly like x.org build-deps [12:55] i have to say that I find the build-dep failure deeply, deeply ironic [12:56] mdz: ok, I'll poke it then === D3vic3 [~d3vic3@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:56] Kamion: hmm, ia64 is very 'special' in this regard [12:58] Kamion: would it be a problem for you if I temporarily took ia64 out of the Architecture list? [01:00] daniels: not in the least [01:02] phat [01:03] should be uploaded in 10min or so === lamont__r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amu [~amu@195.71.9.198] has joined #ubuntu-devel === catdog [~ed@83.216.156.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti_ [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti__ [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupus_ [~lupus@kn-ivl-2.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Fwiffo_ [~user@81.19.254.172] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mojo [~mojo@220-244-212-78-vic.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor|mataro [~robtaylor@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] From: hostmaster@gs1.ubuntuforums.org [01:46] To: de_lupus@pandora.be [01:46] Subject: Your mail password [01:46] Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 04:57:43 GMT (05:57 CET) [01:46] Your password was changed successfully! [01:46] ++++++ User-Service: http://www.gs1.ubuntuforums.org [01:46] ++++++ MailTo: postmaster@gs1.ubuntuforums.org [01:46] *-*-* Mail_Scanner: No Virus [01:46] *-*-* PANDORA- Anti_Virus Service [01:46] *-*-* http://www.pandora.be [01:46] it has an attachment with a virus [01:46] wt...??? [01:46] got already 8 mails like this [01:46] hehe [01:46] seems to me [01:46] some developers want to blackmail u [01:46] lol :) [01:47] did u do something guilty? [01:47] lol [01:47] spamassasin is ur sidekick this time [01:47] is the site hacked? [01:47] I had once [01:47] please don't dump this sort of thing into IRC; mail is trivially forgeable and most of us get an awful lot of forged mail already [01:48] hmm k [01:48] amazing! I got a picture of jdub without him making funny faces. [01:48] it's unlikely that the mail actually came from ubuntuforums.org at all, and for further information about e-mail security there are better sources of information than #ubuntu-devel. :) === jdub_ [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] 13:47 < jdub> thom, Keybuk: we have a culprit /etc/dev.d/default/unmount.dev [01:49] 13:47 < jdub> it shouldn't be there [01:49] 13:47 < jdub> (conffile not removed) [01:49] when commenting out the umount -l, it doesn't happen [01:49] mojo: BTW, not many developers are actually involved in ubuntuforums.org [01:49] reproducible [01:49] amazing! I got a picture of jdub without him making funny faces. [01:49] we can't figure it out :-) [01:49] Mithrandir: Now you have to die [01:49] FUCK Mithrandir [01:49] jdub_: isn't that the same as lamont discovered the other day? [01:50] Kamion: he did? [01:50] uh-huh [01:50] hadn't fully figured out the right solution last I checked [01:50] so you guys handily kept it to yourselves? :) [01:50] and we were feeling the ABJECT PAIN? [01:50] mjg59: heh [01:51] jdub_: discussed it in channel, etc. [01:51] hell, we discussed it on #ubuntu, iirc [01:51] lamont__r: so it turns out to be an old unremoved conffile [01:51] I'd like to contribute a hack for Ubuntu-about that include all photos of all developers [01:51] really? doh! [01:51] IF I have all photos of u guys [01:52] I just say it because one time a forum of a friend got hacked and I also got messages like this === Kamion would rather not have his photo distributed on everyone's desktop, thanks [01:53] Kamion: lol, as u wish, privacy must be respected [01:53] we could have jdub in his normal working-at-home clothing [01:54] ... or perhaps not [01:54] Kamion: head and shoulders only === BradB_ [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub_ eyes the channel. [01:55] daniels: l-r-m 2.6.9-2 failed on i386, different way [01:55] jdub: ew. wet. [01:55] daniels: oh, missing build-dep on whatever provides xf86vmode.h [01:56] Rejected: nvidia-glx-dev_1.0.6629-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb: old version (1.0.6629-0ubuntu1) in hoary >= new version (1.0.6629-0ubuntu1 [01:56] ) targeted at hoary. [01:56] daniels: ^--- [01:56] daniels: are you really camm? [01:57] miaow [01:57] mdz: you around? [01:57] BONG [01:57] elmo: danke [01:57] daniels: Dude, you suck === fabbione hands a cluebat to Kamion, elmo and lamont === fabbione points the sodomotron to daniels [01:58] lamont__r: camm? [01:59] upload, curse, repeat. [01:59] daniels: nm [02:04] amu: do you know if mdz's d-i livecd niceness is playable with? [02:04] arch repo? [02:04] mjg59: do we have anything missing in the kernel? [02:05] like new acpi or something? === Fwiffo [~user@81.19.254.172] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:05] fabbione: There is new acpi, but I don't think any of it's needed right at the moment [02:05] 2.6.10 ought to be out by Christmas [02:05] mjg59: ok.. than i am going to put 2.6.9 in maintainance and start working on 2.6.10 === fabbione does the last feature upload for 2.6.9 [02:06] fabbione: woo hoo! [02:07] jdub_: btw -5 is only one change... [02:07] With the exception of the craptop and Scott's thing, I've now managed working suspend to RAM on every machine I've laid hands on [02:07] it includes compressed loop support for the livecd [02:07] thom: what was the ipod reset command again? [02:07] daniels: Oh, there are various Xorg issues with StR if DRI is enabled, it seems [02:08] mjg59: thom tested my laptop with suspend to ram and it seems to work fine.. so you can add another one to the list [02:08] fabbione: What sort do you have? === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:08] ross: inner two buttons for 5 sec iirc [02:09] mjg59: did you get netapplet 1.0 packaged? i have a patch here to make it use g-s-t (from garnacho) [02:09] thom: Not yet [02:09] But, uh, my 0.99.4 packages use g-s-t [02:09] hrm, they do? gar. [02:09] Seriously, the only change between 0.99.4 and 1.0 is that they've removed one binary and added translations and gettext support [02:10] It's a 4-line diff to the code [02:10] ahr [02:10] righto, i'll just thump on 0.99.4 [02:10] Haha [02:10] when daniels fixes my Xorg, anyway [02:10] fixmyx.org? [02:10] thom: rock, ta [02:11] mjg59: Compaq Armada M700 [02:11] mjg59@tyrosine:/etc/network$ whois fixmyx.org [02:11] NOT FOUND [02:11] fabbione: Rocking [02:16] ALWAYS [02:18] actually... 2.6.9 has a broken ipv6 [02:18] HMMM === fabbione goes and checks the diff [02:22] Riddell: http://www.credativ.com/~cha/kubuntu/kubuntu-start.sxi [02:22] Riddell: don't take the logo too seriously, I just knocked it up during the previous BOF :) [02:23] in fact, I knocked up the whole thing during the previous bof [02:23] maybe something to do with the fact that jdub_ didn't tell me I had a bof [02:23] haha [02:24] ok, he told me I had a bof, just not when [02:27] argh no [02:27] we can't pull in the changes for ipv6 easily [02:27] it looks like they break the ABI [02:29] [PATCH] ATA over Ethernet driver for 2.6.9 <- *shrugs* [02:29] heh [02:29] WOO! [02:34] no [02:34] this is NOT going in [02:34] fabbione: but it's craaack [02:35] wtf? [02:35] Mithrandir: i know :-) [02:35] i am freezinf 2.6.9 with -5 [02:35] and start working on 2.6.10 [02:35] so it has all the time to go upstream [02:35] ;) === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:37] CRAAAAAK [02:37] :P === Fwiffo_ [~user@81.19.254.172] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Q-FUNK [~q-funk@gw-5.suomicom.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:40] Can I paste about 5 lines of errors that procps gives me during installation? [02:47] LAMONT!!!!!!!!!!)$*("$(*!($*("$*!_$*_!($*"! [02:48] Keybuk: did you find the hotplug bug? [02:48] yes [02:48] Keybuk: indeed? [02:48] and? [02:48] pitti: as *soon* as you stood up, it did it [02:48] I'll come down again [02:48] ahaha [02:49] Keybuk: yes? [02:49] lamont__r: please report to the ballroom for a beating [02:49] ?? [02:49] hotplug or something else? === lamont_r fears [02:50] or is it time to string cat5 to the rooms? [02:50] lamont_r: can you do something for me ... [02:50] login as root, or use sudo [02:50] cd / [02:50] umount -l "" [02:51] Keybuk: could you do me a favor? make udev remove old dead conffiles.../ [02:52] only if you do me a favour and fix umount to not accept "" and then canonicalise it by prepending the current working directory :p [02:52] deal [02:52] This looks like "chain of favours" [02:52] ;-) === Fwiffo__ [~user@81.19.254.172] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lamont_r blames upstream [02:54] udev.. bah, just make it work. [02:55] Q-FUNK: procps> file a bug [02:55] Kamion: I wanted to first check if this was a known issue. === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:55] go ahead [02:56] fabbione: did you confirm drivers/block/cloop.o? [02:56] Setting up procps (3.2.1-2ubuntu3) ... [02:56] .ko, rather [02:56] * Setting kernel variables... [02:56] error: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button_emulation' is an unknown key [02:56] error: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button2_keycode' is an unknown key [02:56] *ror: 'dev.mac_hid.mouse_button3_keycode' is an unknown key [fail] [02:56] invoke-rc.d: initscript procps.sh, action "start" failed. [02:56] dpkg: error processing procps (--configure): === jasc [~jasc@p508B21CB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] fabbione: is there a 2.6.9-4 then? [02:56] uh, I guess that'd be my fault, let me look [02:57] Q-FUNK: what architecture? [02:57] powerpc [02:57] huh - but not a mac? [02:57] Kamion: drivers/block/cloop.ko [02:58] lamont_r: -4 was up yesterday [02:58] Q-FUNK: do you have a /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid directory? [02:58] Kamion: yes, an iMac. [02:58] lamont_r: i am going to upload -5 today [02:58] Kamion: none. [02:58] Kamion: can you give me the next version for kernel-wedge? so i can build-dep on it? [02:59] fabbione: 1.25ubuntu6 [02:59] Q-FUNK: freaky. please file a bug, assign to cjwatson@canonical.com [02:59] Kamion: tahnks [03:01] fabbione: uploaded [03:01] Kamion: cool [03:02] Kamion: uploading the kernel now.. lamont will have to depwait MUHA MUHA MUHA [03:03] hrmpf [03:03] fabbione: s'not like kernel-wedge takes long to build ... [03:03] Kamion: it's not like it will hit the archive before the kernel will attempt its build :-P [03:03] true :) [03:03] oh actually it can make it [03:03] it's 02 [03:03] iirc at 03 or something there is the end of the day [03:05] Kamion: there.. uploaded [03:07] fabbione: uploads get processed every 5 minutes (:00), and cron.daily happens at :[03] 3. You have to upload before :00 or :30 for it to make it. [03:07] note the _before_ [03:09] yeah [03:09] probably Kamion managed before that [03:09] Kamion: I'm still unsure which option to set in reportbug to assign the bug to yourself specifically. [03:09] i am sure i didn't [03:09] fabbione: no, I didn't [03:09] ok [03:09] no bigge [03:09] Q-FUNK: don't use reportbug, use bugzilla.ubuntu.com [03:09] ;) [03:10] Kamion: ARGH. no thanks. I'm not gonna create yet another user on yet another free software project's own Bugzilla. [03:10] sorry, it's not my idea [03:11] we're writing something better which should allow bug submissions by e-mail [03:11] bugzilla is fine, but the user database should be shared between projects. [03:11] I know it's not necessarily your idea. === Kamion wonders if that'd be legal in the UK (data protection) [03:13] it's just that I'm about to reach the threshold where I become allergic to free software, because of the lack of integration on simple things like sharing the user/password database betwwen all bugzillas. [03:13] eh, that's not a simple thing [03:13] socially-wise [03:13] we won't be using bugzilla long-term. [03:13] I hate to say this, but it is one simple area where Uncle Bill had the right idea with his Passport. [03:14] enough. we won't be using this system long-term. [03:14] yeah, passport. single point of failure [03:14] ross: I find it a LOT preferable to the current case where users have to create an acocunt for every bugzilla on the earth. [03:15] but that's besides the point. I'll just blog about it instead. :) [03:15] lamont_r: that's my side done :) new hal will delete that file if it exists, and also won't accept DEVNAME="" in the replacement [03:15] fixed umount yet? === BradB_ [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] Keybuk: debian uploaded, double checking hoary now === Q-FUNK [~q-funk@gw-5.suomicom.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:34] azeem: ping? [03:35] yeah? [03:35] Keybuk/jdub/whomeverelse. uploaded. [03:35] sadly, you'll have to wait an hour for complete bliss [03:35] lamont_r: ;-) [03:35] thanks dude [03:36] azeem: your multisync packages - the binaries aren't updated? [03:36] azeem: nothing new to update here, just wanted to check [03:36] jdub: sorry for blaming it 100% on hal... [03:36] everyone else did ;) [03:37] jdub: well, the prior packages used to be a full sync with cvs. The ones I just announced only sync the evo2-plugin. Thus, they are 0.82_ while the others are 0.82+0.83cvs20041206 or something [03:37] so there *are* new binaries, but they sort lower [03:37] oh [03:38] bong :) [03:38] greatly simplifies the patch, though :) [03:38] PAAANTS [03:39] PAAAATCH [03:39] azeem: the synce should use the standard naming :/ [03:40] yeah [03:41] $ apt-cache show multisync | grep ^Version [03:41] Version: 0.82-3.2ubuntu1 [03:41] that's right? [03:41] yeah [03:41] lots of evo plugin dep problems [03:41] bah [03:41] libmultisync-plugin-evolution: Depends: libebook8 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable [03:41] Depends: libecal6 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable [03:41] Depends: libedata-book1 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable [03:41] Depends: libedata-cal5 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable [03:41] Depends: libedataserver3 (>= 1.0.2) but it is not installable [03:42] [03:42] did you build on unstable, or...? :) [03:42] thom: where is located the printer? [03:42] in the hack room [03:42] maybe I forgot -d hoary this time, hang on [03:42] thanks [03:42] jdub: bah [03:42] um [03:43] rebuilding now, sorry [03:43] i can rebuild [03:43] just pulling the source now [03:43] cool, thanks [03:43] ogra_: ping [03:43] I'll update the binaries I mentioned anyway [03:44] jdub: how do i print a simple text file to it? [03:44] cups already see it (apparently) [03:44] fabbione: don't just send the raw ascii file, it will mess up the page borders [03:44] fabbione: I printed it from OO.o [03:44] ok [03:45] fabbione: the keysigning list, I suppose? :-) === jdub looks at azeem [03:46] Failed to fetch http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/ubuntu-hoary/./multisync_0.82.orig.tar.gz 404 Not Found [03:46] ah ah [03:46] :-) [03:47] jdub: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/multisync/multisync_0.82.orig.tar.gz [03:47] pitti: yeps [03:48] ;) [03:48] but I'll upload it to my place for convenience [03:48] ok, ok [03:49] i'll just grab that [03:51] azeem: still build-deps on old soup and gal [03:52] ah, didn't know there was a new one [03:52] fabbione: print 2 copies, eh? [03:52] hrm [03:53] and stuff that doesn't exist... [03:53] like? [03:53] libglade-dev [03:53] Kamion: around for a question? [03:55] hrm [03:55] lamont_r: yeah === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:55] Note, selecting libglade0-dev instead of libglade-dev [03:55] should it take another one? [03:56] azeem: say hello to build-depending on a virtual package [03:57] lamont_r: hey, it's not my package, I'm just trying to fix it for you guys :p [03:57] it's fine like it is [03:57] that is, that is a note, not an error. [03:57] jdub seemd to imply otherwise, that's why I qouted it [03:58] Kamion: elilo-installer is ftbfs... control declares it to be arch: ia64, but the package builds indep-only... [03:58] what was the corner case of packages that were arch: all wrt dependencies and arch: ? [03:58] that is, which direction of dependencies was bad? [03:59] uh ... either? [03:59] it's only for binNMUs though isn't it? [03:59] unless I'm missing something [03:59] how so? i386 depends: all shouldn't be an issue, right? [03:59] sure will, if the depends: is (= ${Source-Version}) [03:59] had to do with moving into testing. istr it was arch: all depends arch: i386-only package --> not installable on !i386 [04:00] or something like that [04:00] multiple source packages here [04:00] so no version'ed depends at all. [04:00] oh, right, testing special-cases i386 for validating arch: all dependencies if that's what you mean? [04:00] I'll fix elilo-installer, thanks [04:00] jdub: libgal-dev and libsoup2.2-dev should be alright? [04:00] I have the upload prepared, changing it to arch: all in control. [04:00] uh, no [04:00] just wanted to make sure I wasn't on crack. [04:00] please don't [04:01] ok [04:01] eh [04:01] we actively don't want elilo-installer on other arches, it'll break stuff [04:01] libgal2.4-dev, rather [04:01] lamont_r: switch debian/rules round instead [04:01] ah, right. [04:01] ok. [04:01] should I, or do you really want it? [04:01] go ahead, I'll do it upstream as well [04:02] ok. [04:02] dannf doesn't mind? [04:02] already filed the bug in debian's bts... [04:02] d-i's cooperatively maintained in general [04:02] I'll do it when I next read -boot [04:03] ah, right. dannf is uploader, not maint. my bad [04:04] although certainly if he wants to do it it makes life easier, since he actually has a system to upload it on ... [04:05] heh [04:06] mdz, Kamion, elmo: can we promote silo, silo-installer, sparc-utils and genromfs to main? the first 3 packages are mandatory to boot/d-i, the last one to build world * [04:06] they are all for sparc so it shouldn't be a big deal [04:06] well genromfs is arch any... === lamont_r uploads with hopes for the first iteration [04:10] jdub: I've uploaded a 0.82-3.2ubuntu2 source package [04:10] so now I have to teach ifup to ignore interfaces that don't exist [04:10] * debian/control (Build-Depends): Updated to libglade2-dev, [04:10] libsoup2.2-dev and libgal2.4-dev. [04:14] this file is full of crack! === Keybuk makes rude gestures at aj [04:14] azeem: thanks [04:15] totem or mplayer -> http://192.168.0.109.8800/ [04:15] totem or mplayer -> http://192.168.0.109:8800/ [04:15] what? [04:16] illiterate programming :-/ [04:16] :p [04:16] you're telling ifup to bring interfaces up/down when they don't exist and you're whining when it objects to that? [04:16] yes [04:16] crazy freak [04:16] ifup -a whines that interfaces don't exist [04:16] lamont: poke [04:16] because the modules aren't loaded yet [04:16] the alternative is to remove the auto lines for them and make hotplug load all interfaces [04:17] hotplug/ifupdown interaction is a bit flakey [04:17] yeah, I'm fixing it === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:18] ogra_: you have mail [04:19] well, breaking it quite heavily at the moment === aj pokes lamont_r again [04:19] but fixing is on the cards :) [04:20] lamont's wandered off [04:20] typical [04:20] elmo: what was with the tetex nmu? did lamont really not mail the bts/maintainer? [04:20] lamont summoned [04:21] aj: sup? [04:21] amu: nc 192.168.0.97 1234 | tar xvf - [04:22] aj: oh that. [04:22] connectivity was crap for email yesterday for me. [04:22] and was having general frustration with TCP sessions in general (crappy wireless reception where I was and couldn't leave) [04:23] and I fear I let the NMU get ahead of the email [04:23] bts has mail... [04:23] fair enough [04:23] there were mumblings in irc before and after the NMU as well. [04:23] (from me that is.) [04:24] and I should have really read the topic here. [04:24] sigh [04:24] and I apologized for my poor execution of process to the maintainer as well. [04:25] sure, i was being sceptical, not critical [04:25] aj: will be more precise in my execution henceforth [04:25] "lamont in unexpected NMU shocker" :p [04:25] (lamont, not know how to nmu? huh?) [04:25] it was a shade too weakly ordered today. [04:25] mdz: done; thx [04:26] aj: various excuses, etc, etc. I will admit to weak ordering being pretty common, but the mail to the bts is usually right behind the upload when I do that... [04:26] this one was weakly and widely ordered... (As in woke up this morning and went 'damn. I forgot to mail the bts last night'.) [04:27] lamont: how come you haven't setup a script that sends the mail as part of uploading? [04:28] aj: was actually thinking this morning (as I uploaded util-linux) of doing a debian upload script... [04:32] since uploading debian packages correctly is a pain for me now. [04:32] dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S ; sbuild; mergechanges; debsign; dput [04:32] lamont_r: sbuild in unstable has an -s option for building sourceful/binary uploads properly... [04:33] azeem: I've had issues with that in the past, but may just go play with it some more [04:33] I fixed it a while ago [04:33] cool [04:34] which version? sometime before 2004.09.06? [04:37] hmm, guess so [04:37] not sure === Mitario [~michiel@sikkes.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:43] lamont_r: #239339 has a patch === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:49] thanks [05:01] any of the pygtk chaps aounrd? [05:01] incredible, ooo finished building. [05:01] Mithrandir: congratz [05:01] didn't install successfully, though [05:02] Mithrandir: whoops [05:02] <_rene_> hmm? what did you use? CVS HEAD? [05:02] _rene_: no, I'm hacking on the gvfs problem [05:02] <_rene_> there was a rm and cvs rm missing to a few mins [05:02] <_rene_> ah, ok [05:02] remon: [05:02] oops [05:03] _rene_: it's still -2 [05:03] <_rene_> didn't know on what Mithrandir tested with, so ;-) === Mithrandir scratches head [05:03] <_rene_> s/on // [05:03] <_rene_> args [05:04] Mithrandir: same problem here. install: cannot stat `tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so': No such file or directory [05:04] where are the pygtk guys hiding? [05:05] comeon there's a whole pygtk bof happening, there's gotta be someone here already [05:05] haggai: I don't have any targets depending on tools.gnomevfs.. [05:08] Mithrandir: $(STAMP_DIR)/install-arch: debian/openoffice.org$(VER)-gnomevfs.install [05:08] haggai: you rock. [05:08] : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > ldd ./tools/unxlngi4.gnomevfs.pro/lib/libtl645li.so | grep gnomevfs [05:09] libgnomevfs-2.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgnomevfs-2.so.0 (0xb7eb8000) [05:09] : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > ldd ./tools/unxlngi4.pro/lib/libtl645li.so | grep gnomevfs [05:09] : tfheen@thosu ~/ooo/openoffice.org-1.1.3 > [05:09] oooh :) === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:14] tollef statically linked openoffice? [05:14] or just linked it to gnomevfs [05:14] I _stopped_ linking it to ooo [05:14] s/ooo/gvfs [05:14] so elmo won't cry. [05:14] not much, at least. [05:15] aww [05:15] no love [05:15] the ooo-bin shouldn't link to gvfs, the ooo-gnomevfs should [05:15] right now, both does. [05:19] debuild -S for ooo takes more time thank building binaries for most other packages I maintain. === Keybuk sings the "It's all so crackful" song === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:23] debuild -S on OOO takes approximately one apache2. [05:30] <_rene_> Mithrandir: hehe [05:30] <_rene_> I usually keep two identical trees around when doing uploads [05:31] I'm serious. [05:31] <_rene_> one for the source, one for the binaries [05:31] and apache is slooooow [05:31] <_rene_> build the binaries -> works -> checkin -> cvs up -> debuild -S -> mergechanges [05:31] <_rene_> roughly that way [05:31] <_rene_> so I don't have to build the sourcepkg over and over ;-) [05:32] and I'm after a tiny patch for you/chris [05:33] we will have the quickest. boot. ever. [05:35] slooooow. [05:36] make openoffice load quicker [05:36] make it diff quicker. [05:37] I don't care about loading, I just want to diff it. :P === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:47] _rene_: we had a brainstorming session yesterday about getting OOo to load quicker [05:48] _rene_: keybuk reckons we'd be far better if we linked everything into 1 huuge lib [05:48] <_rene_> isn't there some option which created one binary? [05:48] _rene_: he says since its memmapped it won't take up swap or memory [05:48] <_rene_> s/ed/es/ [05:48] <_rene_> but that would hurt external extensions [05:48] _rene_: I don't think so, only an option to create a large zip file for install instead of the little ones [05:49] _rene_: why would it hurt them? [05:49] <_rene_> since they often link against lib*645??.so [05:49] well we could leave the libs around if we wanted, just leave them pretty empty === tim1 [~Tim@pD9E5D0BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:50] hello [05:51] i need scrnsaver.h to compile beagle, packages.debian.org says it is in the 'xlibs-devel' package, but the ubuntu package doesn't seem to contain that file [05:53] <_rene_> xlibs-static-dev (on sarge) [05:53] <_rene_> you probably looked in woody. don't :) [05:53] i have both installed [05:54] isn't in there either [05:54] _rene_, haggai: http://err.no/patches/openoffice-gnomevfs-link.diff [05:54] tim1: search the Contents.gz files in the ftp archive [05:55] Mithrandir: cheers [05:55] haggai: does it look ok to you? [05:55] <_rene_> didn't we want to make that logic reversed? [05:56] _rene_: yes, that's why I said to you it needs work before checking in === haggai looks for someone to help with openoffice [05:56] <_rene_> ah, ok [05:56] what was it, waitresses? [05:57] haggai: does it come with an eight-way dual-core opteron system with 48GB memory and 15k RPM SCSI disks? [05:57] because else, people will die of old age before it finishes compiling [05:57] Mithrandir: uh, sure. But I'll not tell you where to find it in the huuuge project hehe [05:58] heh [05:59] lala, 36 seconds with old hotplug [06:00] THIRTY-SIX. [06:00] daniels: rock [06:00] haggai: the contents.gz list it in xlibs-static-dev [06:01] but i have that one installed [06:01] still mssing .. [06:01] tim1: libxss-dev [06:03] daniels: thanks very much, i think that's it [06:05] Keybuk: what is the 1.10 arch branch in your repo? [06:06] scott@netsplit.com--2004/dpkg--stable--1.10 [06:06] thx [06:09] http://192.168.0.93:8800/ [06:11] oh oh oh [06:11] i wonder what is there [06:11] flumotion stream :) [06:11] jdub: ogg vorbis stream of the bof? [06:11] theora [06:11] no sound [06:12] rob taylor, mako, amaya and helix [06:12] jdub: rock! make it external [06:12] jdub: what kind of cam is it you have? [06:12] jdub: NICE! [06:12] ross: and take it to the pub [06:12] Mithrandir: logitech quickcam [06:12] ross: trying [06:13] jdub: does it come with the laptop screen thing by default? [06:13] yeah [06:13] handy [06:13] neat === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdahlin [~jdahlin@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:16] jdub: the streaming thing is packaged? [06:17] waah I only see a blue screen [06:17] Mithrandir: flumotion [06:17] haggai: what are you using to watch the stream? [06:18] jdub: totem [06:18] hmm, I can't get openoffice to run [06:18] gstreamer or xine? [06:18] jdub: packaged? :) [06:19] Mithrandir: ... as flumotion :) === jdahlin looks at mdz [06:19] oh, ok [06:19] jdahlin: look at haggai :-) === haggai looks at his blue screen [06:19] jdub: oh, I thought the last entry in the changelog is the maintainer applied even to ubuntu [06:20] jdahlin: it does, but haggai is the MAIN MAN [06:20] jdahlin: if you'd like some help you need to be more specific please === Mithrandir gets display corruption from totem [06:20] haggai: for totem-gstreamer, you can look at jdahlin === jdub snickers. === haggai grins [06:20] haggai: I removed an old .sversionrc and .openoffice*, but it still fails to startup [06:20] are you dudes looking for bug reports against swsusp now? [06:20] haggai: probably worth trying totem-xine [06:20] or just a test run [06:20] haggai: complaining that I have no entry for 1.1.3 in .sversionrc [06:20] tseng: for 2.6.9 kernels? yeah! [06:20] ya [06:21] BBB@#gstreamer is the perfect guy for totem-gstreamer === tseng hits bugzilla [06:21] jdub: what console output do you get? And are there any soffice.bin processes hanging around? [06:21] uuh [06:21] jdahlin: [06:21] sorry I was too lazy to type enough [06:22] I have totem-gstreamer installed [06:22] $ openoffice [06:22] OpenOffice.org for Debian - see /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz [06:22] running openoffice.org setup... [06:22] Setup did not complete properly - cannot find an entry in ~/.sversionrc [06:22] haggai: yeah, try totem-xine [06:22] that's what I get [06:22] jdahlin: oh cool that breaks ubuntu-desktop [06:22] arrgh [06:23] that was for jdub [06:23] seems like libtheora is broken on amd64 aswell [06:23] jdahlin: what's in the setup logfile under .openoffice? [06:24] haggai: everything seems fine in there [06:24] jdahlin: and you don't have an .sversionrc? [06:24] haggai: well I had, but README.Debian told me to remove it [06:24] so, no I don't [06:24] jdahlin: but the 'running openoffice.org setup...' step should recreate it [06:25] haggai: what do I need to put in the file? [06:25] jdahlin: nothing, OOo makes it [06:26] I still get a blue screen, even with totem-xine [06:29] haggai: but to do it manually I mean [06:29] jdub: I need streaming love tomorrow === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-81.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:29] jdahlin: you never need to do it manually [06:30] jdahlin: and you say setup.log is ok :-/ [06:30] ffice.org setup...' step should recreate it [06:30] sorry [06:30] [Versions] [06:30] OpenOffice.org 1.1.3=file:///home/chris/.openoffice/1.1.1 [06:30] OK set profile item: file:///home/jdahlin/.sversionrc, Versions, OpenOffice.org 1.1.2, file:///home/jdahlin/.openoff [06:30] ice/1.1.3 [06:31] but as I said, you never need to create it by hand [06:31] versions 1.1.2?? [06:31] hmm, it's created now [06:31] do you have package skew? [06:31] s/1.1.2/1.1.3/ in .sversionrc fixes it [06:32] yeah, I seem to have [06:32] openoffice.org-bin is 1.1.2 [06:32] the rest seems to be 1.1.3 [06:32] except documentation, which is 1.1 [06:32] jdahlin: ok, those deps should be tightened up then. Thanks [06:34] Package: openoffice.org [06:34] haggai: you're welcome. ping me if you want me to test a new version [06:34] Depends: openoffice.org-debian-files (>> 1.1.2+1.1.3), openoffice.org-bin (>> 1.1.2+1.1.3) [06:34] jdahlin: in the source it's ok === haggai scratches head [06:34] I installed warty here and upgraded to hoary [06:35] but the hoary version of openoffice.org has the correct depends [06:35] so you shouldn't be able to have that happen [06:35] I did the upgrade 5 days ago if that matters [06:36] well, if you upgrade from an unstable distro you should always check for new versions... [06:37] I don't think in this case it would matter, though === Mithrandir uploads openoffice.org === jasc [~jasc@p508B2ECA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Q-FUNK [~q-funk@gw-5.suomicom.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:39] Kamion: http://bugs.an9.org this is the solution to the Bugzilla login. :) [06:42] jdahlin: are you around the conference now? [06:43] jordi: yeah [06:43] jdahlin: if so, 1) where, I want to meet you :p and 2) your room mate is here and I guess needs a key. :) [06:43] jordi: I'm in the main hall [06:43] cristal? [06:44] or downstairs? [06:44] downstairs === jordi goes downstairs. :) === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:45] err, not going anywhere actually :P === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:12] haggai: that's an openoffice.org-amd64 problem [07:12] Keybuk: can you star-merge off tfheen@raw.no--2004/dpkg--main--1.10 ? It has a few changes for some wishlist bug in dpkg [07:13] Keybuk: (and I want to test that I haven't screwed up) [07:13] mdz: what's an ooo-amd64 problem? [07:20] thom: How long with shinyhotplug? === Fwiffo___ [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:33] mdz: aah [07:33] Mithrandir: version skew === lulu [~lu@213.151.107.243] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Simira [~rpGirl@m130j.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:41] can anyone poke Mithrandir? Or are you signing now? [07:42] signing right now. [07:42] Just started, so it will take a while. [07:42] I'll tell him [07:42] ok [07:42] thanks [07:43] where's Erinn? [07:43] not keysigning, not sure [07:43] upstairs probably. [07:43] ok [07:43] no she's not gonna join the signing, I know. She should be online! [07:46] she has no lappy for herself tho === stratus [~stratus@200.198.184.97] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:50] huh... og [07:50] do you know if Tollef have been to the restaurant where I lost my cam? [07:51] I have no idea. Want me to ask him? [07:52] k [07:52] I'lll do it when he comes online [07:52] he went there, but had not found it, and says he'll go again with me so I can talk to them properly. [07:53] ok, that'd be great, I'd really appreciate it [07:54] I guess we'll have a look at dinner time. [07:54] yep [07:55] sounds sensible [07:58] why's everone leaving? [07:59] No idea. Both of them aren't in the keysign. [08:14] hi everyone :) === Treenaks live from Barcelona Airport, gate M3 :) [08:14] hi Treenaks [08:14] hi Simira [08:25] Treenaks : already in home? [08:26] sivang: no.. I mis-calculated a bit [08:26] sivang: so I'm still in Spain [08:26] sivang: the HP/Intel people at gate M3 were so nice NOT to set a WEP key or MAC access list ;) [08:27] Treenaks : oh :-/ [08:27] sivang: I'll board my plane in an hour [08:27] it's not too bad [08:27] I have enough books with me :) [08:29] oh that's good :) [08:35] sivang: pictures on my site :) [08:36] Treenaks : as alwasy :) [08:36] sivang: ;) [08:39] so, there... long phone call home to assure I've had a great time :) [08:39] got your christmas-gift, Treenaks ? Or was it for birthday...? [08:39] Simira: birthday, and no :( [08:39] sivang: hey. Still having a good time? How was the Deban-women bof? [08:39] don't know what to buy [08:39] but I'll think of something in Amsterdam or something [08:40] Simira: women? there were women at the conf? ;) [08:40] Simira : sure! I didn't attend it [08:40] Treenaks: Amsterdam is nice that way. You have to make her write a list with wishes and measures for clothes and stuff! Tell her that else, you can't buy her nice surprises. [08:40] sivang: ok [08:41] Simira: I'm useless buying clothes anyway :) [08:41] Simira: I'll stick with something vaguely useful [08:41] Treenaks: buy her some sexy underwear! Tollef did to me :) (ok, I picked it, but...) [08:41] Simira: tollef is not your brother [08:42] right, it was your sister, not your girlfriend... my bad [08:42] I'll find something [08:42] I know a cool store in Amsterdam that sells all kinds of games [08:42] cool [08:42] and huge 20x20cm fluffy dice 8) [08:42] uh [08:42] 20x20x20cm [08:43] yes, they've gotten those here as well [08:43] I'm gonna get a whole set [08:43] they're hell to roll, but it works :) [08:43] hehe [08:43] they're supposed to hang in the mirror on your car! [08:43] they're a bit too large for that [08:44] you wouldn't be able to see a thing ;) [08:44] heh [08:44] well, the small ones are all right [08:44] they also have lots of weird cool puzzles [08:44] so I might go for one of those [08:44] anyway [08:45] my laptop is starting to beep annoyingly [08:45] ouch [08:45] back in ~ 3 hours ;) [08:45] have a nice trip home then [08:45] thanks :) [08:45] (I didn't) [08:45] (why not?) [08:45] Treenaks: nice flight ;) [08:45] Treenaks: delays and stuff [08:45] Simira: ah.. too bad [08:45] sjoerd: dankjewel :) [08:46] *shutdown -h now* [08:46] sjoerd :) === _rene__ [~rene@dsl-082-082-059-019.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdz_ [~jdz@69.49.156.181] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _rene__ is now known as _rene_ === Fwiffo [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:42] robtaylor: hey, are people done eating? === alerios [~alerios@201.245.164.174] has joined #ubuntu-devel === alerios [~alerios@201.245.164.174] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Abandonando"] === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jasc [jan@krlh-d9b91961.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dasenjo [~dasenjo@200.21.83.173] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:31] lamont_r the AP in the room is really bad [11:31] a lot of pkts loss [11:34] fabbione: worksforme [11:36] Mithrandir : very bad here in 132 [11:37] haggai: what kind of version skew? [11:38] it seems better now [11:39] fabbione: you have it close, it's in daf's room === nasdaq4088|away [nasdaq4088@tkp-ip-nas-1-p159.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:41] fabbione: it was non-existant in 131 === nasdaq4088|away [nasdaq4088@tkp-ip-nas-1-p159.telkom-ipnet.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel []