| mjg59 | Keybuk: Mm. We didn't get any beeps out of yours, did we? | 12:01 |
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| mjg59 | It could well be the same issue | 12:01 |
| Keybuk | no, but that could be just the fact it's a soundcard that pretends to beep | 12:01 |
| mjg59 | That's true | 12:02 |
| mjg59 | Tell tbm to get his docking station fixed | 12:02 |
| Keybuk | heh :p | 12:03 |
| daniels | GOD SVN IS A DISK HOG | 12:06 |
| daniels | 2.6MB in database logs, 401MB in 'strings' | 12:06 |
| === lamont_r upgrades, reboots to get a new kernel. happy happy joy joy | ||
| sabdf1 | daniels: have you tried baz recently? | 12:07 |
| sabdf1 | mjg59: will the X40 be a happy puppy with your new kernels? | 12:07 |
| mjg59 | sabdf1: Everything in my kernels is in Hoary's 2.6.9 now | 12:08 |
| daniels | sabdf1: don't use svn personally, just looking at a few fd.o projects (the start-and-forget ones that are making us look like sourceforge) | 12:08 |
| mjg59 | sabdf1: If you're on Hoary, you get suspend to disk support by magic | 12:09 |
| daniels | sabdf1: i use baz for all my stuff | 12:09 |
| sabdf1 | mjg59: this laptop is still warty-fied, desktop has hoary, but the laptop is what i'm curious about | 12:09 |
| mjg59 | sabdf1: But yeah, I'm running that kernel on my X40 | 12:09 |
| sabdf1 | daniels: our arch supermirror is going to be a huge repo of scarily unmaintained code too, i figure | 12:10 |
| mjg59 | I think it probably has usb-storage issues which are fixed in the Hoary one | 12:10 |
| sabdf1 | ok | 12:10 |
| sabdf1 | can't wait :-) | 12:10 |
| mjg59 | Hoary's 2.6.9 should work fine on Warty, as long as you pick up Hoary's initrd-tools as well | 12:10 |
| sabdf1 | well, i suppose, if that were true i'd be upgrading now | 12:10 |
| daniels | sabdf1: mmm, at least its stated purpose is to suck up everything alive, not to foster active development | 12:10 |
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| sabdf1 | i'm waiting for the package freeze | 12:11 |
| daniels | sabdf1: ('hi, you never logged in and afaict you've only ever committed four headers. do you guys actually exist?') | 12:11 |
| sabdf1 | right | 12:11 |
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| sabdf1 | mjg59: great work, you're getting quite a reputation among the ubuntites | 12:17 |
| thom | as a scary loony. definitely | 12:17 |
| sabdf1 | no one seems to know what a verbally carcinogenic glyphically creative character you really are ;-) | 12:18 |
| Keybuk | not scary, so much as angry | 12:18 |
| daniels | oh, we all know, dude :) | 12:18 |
| mjg59 | Haha | 12:21 |
| sabdf1 | beer time? | 12:22 |
| thom | sabdf1: yes | 12:22 |
| sabdf1 | see you there | 12:23 |
| thom | righto | 12:23 |
| sabdf1 | just... one... more... commit... | 12:23 |
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| thom | hah! | 12:23 |
| daniels | sabdf1: craaaaack | 12:23 |
| daniels | see you guys in the lobby | 12:23 |
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| lifeless | hehe, I got CRACK. | 12:23 |
| lifeless | will feed it to you soon. | 12:23 |
| stockholm | this is the pyhton support channel, right? | 12:23 |
| Keybuk | the Python people are playing mao or drinking beer :p | 12:24 |
| lifeless | (thats inclusive or too,for clarity) | 12:24 |
| stockholm | i get this traceback from rootstrap: | 12:25 |
| stockholm | Traceback (most recent call last): | 12:25 |
| stockholm | File "/usr/bin/rootstrap", line 113, in ? | 12:25 |
| stockholm | if os.spawnvpe(os.P_WAIT,umlargs[0] , umlargs, os.environ) != 0: | 12:25 |
| stockholm | File "/usr/lib/python2.3/os.py", line 553, in spawnvpe | 12:25 |
| stockholm | return _spawnvef(mode, file, args, env, execvpe) | 12:25 |
| stockholm | File "/usr/lib/python2.3/os.py", line 504, in _spawnvef | 12:25 |
| stockholm | wpid, sts = waitpid(pid, 0) | 12:25 |
| stockholm | KeyboardInterrupt | 12:25 |
| lifeless | you hit Ctrl-C. | 12:25 |
| stockholm | yes, i did, because the thing hang | 12:25 |
| lifeless | so it raw a child process, it was waiting for that child. | 12:25 |
| lifeless | *ran* | 12:25 |
| stockholm | but the child process was just sitting there. | 12:26 |
| lifeless | what was the child meant to be doing? (what was it..) | 12:26 |
| stockholm | exiting. | 12:27 |
| stockholm | it should have exited. | 12:27 |
| stockholm | it was a uml process that had done a shutdown | 12:27 |
| lifeless | hmm, what kernel ? | 12:27 |
| stockholm | 2.4.26-3um | 12:27 |
| lifeless | ok, not that suspicion then. | 12:28 |
| stockholm | and host is 2.6.9 wiht skas | 12:28 |
| stockholm | with | 12:28 |
| lifeless | oh! ok, I *think* there is a bug in 2.6* hitting python. | 12:28 |
| lifeless | try with LD_ASSUME_KERNEL="2.4.whatever" | 12:28 |
| stockholm | neat, ok | 12:29 |
| lifeless | I saw weird stuff like that all the time until I put that in. | 12:29 |
| stockholm | really "whatever"? | 12:29 |
| lifeless | (by whatever I mean foo, a metasyntatic wassname. | 12:29 |
| lifeless | let me look up the actual value I'm using | 12:29 |
| lifeless | 2.4.2 | 12:29 |
| stockholm | ok | 12:30 |
| stockholm | lifeless: hm, still hangs when done | 12:42 |
| stockholm | you meant it like an environment var to the process, right? | 12:43 |
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| jon1012 | hello :) | 12:45 |
| jon1012 | excuse me, where can I find "libgnomevfs2-0_2.9.1-0ubuntu2_i386.deb" ? | 12:59 |
| Mithrandir | nautilus should support sftp://$host/$directory style symlinks. | 01:05 |
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| jon1012 | ? | 01:06 |
| Mithrandir | I guess I'll have to patch that in. | 01:06 |
| jon1012 | do you know when the gnome menus will be fixed in hoary ? | 01:15 |
| Mithrandir | nope, seb128 would be the man to know | 01:16 |
| Mithrandir | or jdub | 01:16 |
| jon1012 | ok :) | 01:16 |
| jon1012 | thx ^^ | 01:17 |
| haggai | where is everyone? | 01:20 |
| haggai | we just got back from Barcelona and the place is deserted | 01:21 |
| jon1012 | lol | 01:23 |
| jon1012 | it explains why there wasn't anybody the last week :p | 01:27 |
| === haggai bounces around a bit to make the channel look more active | ||
| haggai | Kubuntu! Ker-buntu! Keee-dee-Eee-buntu !! | 01:34 |
| lifeless | we're right here | 01:34 |
| lifeless | :) | 01:34 |
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| sladen | haggai: which corner? | 01:36 |
| haggai | sladen: the one in my room, which thankfully has wireless | 01:36 |
| lifeless | :) | 01:36 |
| haggai | sladen: so where is everyone anyway? | 01:36 |
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| lifeless | garh! | 01:38 |
| jon1012 | hm... I don't know if it's the right moment to ask, but I would want to help in the gnome development ^^ | 01:39 |
| jon1012 | and ubuntu of course :) | 01:39 |
| jon1012 | (gnome in ubuntu in fact :p) | 01:39 |
| lifeless | I think its *always* the right time to ask that | 01:39 |
| jon1012 | lol | 01:39 |
| haggai | jdub! | 01:40 |
| haggai | jdub: did you find any chocolate? | 01:40 |
| jdub | no | 01:41 |
| jdub | just lollies | 01:41 |
| jon1012 | (jdub, do you know when I could test the fixed menu system for hoary ?) | 01:45 |
| jon1012 | (or maybe I could help in the development of this?) | 01:46 |
| jdub | first cut should be done this weekend | 01:47 |
| jon1012 | ok :) | 01:49 |
| jon1012 | if you need some help or testing just ask me :) | 01:49 |
| haggai | arrggh evo crashed for the 3rd time on the same list | 01:54 |
| haggai | don't you gnome guys have anything stable to read your mail with? *duck* | 01:54 |
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| jon1012 | lol | 01:59 |
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| mojo | daniels: ur the greatest! I just got the new 686 linux-restricted and nvidia-glx | 02:24 |
| mojo | daniels: but did you notice that 'glxgear' fail? (Segmentation fault) | 02:24 |
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| mojo | daniels: and so cedega and other related program | 02:25 |
| jon1012 | (ouch :/) | 02:27 |
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| jon1012 | good night everybody :) | 02:55 |
| lamont_r | who's on 192.168.0.14? | 02:57 |
| jon1012 | ?? (192.168.0.14 is a lan addresse :|) | 02:58 |
| lamont_r | jon1012: exactly. specifically, an IP at the conf in mataro | 02:58 |
| lamont_r | which is to say, someone's laptop. | 02:58 |
| sivang | not mines :) | 02:58 |
| jon1012 | oh ok lol | 02:58 |
| jon1012 | I'm not in mataro :p | 02:59 |
| sivang | lamont_r : still fighting with the network? | 03:01 |
| plovs | lamont_r, here it works ok | 03:02 |
| plovs | lamont_r, across the hall from your room | 03:02 |
| lamont_r | am fine | 03:02 |
| lamont_r | just experience a burp in the force | 03:04 |
| lamont_r | whoever's on .14 was just bouncing around alot is all. | 03:04 |
| lamont_r | anyway, bed time | 03:04 |
| sivang | lamont, night! | 03:04 |
| sabdf1 | night all | 03:10 |
| sivang | night sabdfl | 03:10 |
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| mojo | daniels: is it better if u write a script to download binary Nvidia driver and install automatically rather get restricted-modules? On some machine, the resctrited does not work or usually encounter some Seg fault error | 03:33 |
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| spotter | anyone using software suspend w/ the new 2.6.9 kernel? | 04:49 |
| tseng | sortof | 04:49 |
| spotter | how does one set it up? | 04:49 |
| tseng | read $linuxsource/Documentation/power/swsusp.txt | 04:50 |
| spotter | hmm | 04:50 |
| spotter | have to install linuxsource | 04:50 |
| spotter | i just installed the unbuntu packages | 04:50 |
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| jdodson | knock, knock. | 06:26 |
| jdodson | any developers in the house? | 06:26 |
| jdodson | house being this irc channel that is. | 06:26 |
| Tsjoklat | bit early in Spain jdodson... and weekend | 06:27 |
| jdodson | ah right. | 06:27 |
| jdodson | doh. | 06:27 |
| Tsjoklat | would try in mmmm two and a half hours | 06:28 |
| jdodson | gonna be in bed then..... oh well. | 06:28 |
| Tsjoklat | more luck on monday | 06:30 |
| jdodson | sounds good, will rock it then.... | 06:30 |
| Tsjoklat | :) | 06:31 |
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| Simira | morning folks! | 10:47 |
| === Mithrandir ruffles Simira | ||
| Treenaks | morning Simira | 10:49 |
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| jdahlin | I have a problem booting ubuntu on amd64, seems like grub cant find stage2 from my hd | 01:03 |
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| azeem | jdahlin: seems they are all touring Barcelona today | 01:18 |
| jdahlin | yeah, boring :) | 01:18 |
| amu | azeem: not all ;) | 01:26 |
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| pasc | woohoo | 03:12 |
| === pasc finally makes it in | ||
| === Treenaks decides normal developers will never be able to use baz | ||
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| pasc | Treenaks: how come? | 03:42 |
| Treenaks | pasc: because it's impossible to think up a 'baz get' line which does NOT tell me "invalid revision spec" | 03:44 |
| lifeless | pasc: dude, are you here ? | 03:44 |
| lifeless | Treenaks: how so ? | 03:45 |
| lifeless | Treenaks: i.e give me an example. | 03:45 |
| pasc | lifeless: yeah | 03:45 |
| pasc | lifeless: where are you? | 03:45 |
| lifeless | rm 124 | 03:45 |
| pasc | ah | 03:45 |
| lifeless | u? | 03:45 |
| pasc | is everyone in their rooms or something? | 03:45 |
| pasc | i'm in one of the conf rooms | 03:45 |
| lifeless | nyha, the slackers went to barcelona, I couldn't face that much walking :) | 03:46 |
| pasc | I think it's the BOF room | 03:46 |
| pasc | is bob2 wearing a white shirt today? | 03:46 |
| lifeless | if its mid sized and stinky, its the BOF room | 03:46 |
| Treenaks | lifeless: the main problem is that the most advanced revision control I've used is cvs | 03:46 |
| Treenaks | lifeless: and the lack of docs" | 03:46 |
| Treenaks | docs for beginners | 03:47 |
| Treenaks | stupid ^J | 03:47 |
| pasc | lifeless: yeah | 03:47 |
| pasc | sounds about right | 03:47 |
| lifeless | so baz is way to complicated, yes. | 03:47 |
| lifeless | and we are addressing that. | 03:47 |
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| lifeless | but the basics are very similar to cvs - you have a repository, it has branches that you can check out, and commit to. | 03:47 |
| Treenaks | I'll have to dive into the docs some more | 03:48 |
| lifeless | pasc: I could do lunch, but stuff will be closed now, until ~ 8pm. | 03:49 |
| pasc | lifeless: want to walk around and see if we see anything? | 03:51 |
| pasc | it also gives me the chance to walk around and giggle when I hear people speak in catalan | 03:51 |
| lifeless | sure. Meet you in the lobby? | 03:51 |
| pasc | hmm ok | 03:54 |
| pasc | actually | 03:54 |
| pasc | i'll just come to your room? | 03:54 |
| pasc | be there in 4 | 03:54 |
| pasc | 0 seconds | 03:54 |
| pasc | right | 03:56 |
| pasc | second try | 03:56 |
| pasc | this time I'll actually try to remember your room number | 03:56 |
| pasc | right | 03:56 |
| pasc | out | 03:56 |
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| pasc | hmm | 04:01 |
| pasc | I can't find the rooms past 120 | 04:01 |
| jamesh | you need to go down to the ground floor and go up the other stair case / lift | 04:07 |
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| === remon is away: not at home | ||
| Mithrandir | remon: could you please turn off public away? | 04:41 |
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| Mithrandir | Keybuk/thom/daniels: is there a repository with your latest crack? | 04:58 |
| Mithrandir | or what's the ETA of upload to hoary on it? | 04:58 |
| Treenaks | the boot speedup crack? | 05:06 |
| Mithrandir | yeah | 05:07 |
| === robtaylor|mataro wants more crack | ||
| Treenaks | robtaylor: poke jdub, keybuk, thom and/or daniels :) | 05:08 |
| Mithrandir | craaaaaaaaaaack! | 05:08 |
| Treenaks | robtaylor: or, if you want kernel crack, poke fabbione :) | 05:08 |
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| pasc | Treenaks: jdub/thom /daniels aren't around | 05:17 |
| pasc | Treenaks: I don't know what keybuck looks like | 05:17 |
| lifeless | pasc: he looks like scott | 05:18 |
| lifeless | http://www.netsplit.com/ | 05:18 |
| Treenaks | lifeless: he doesn't look like that.. not much at least | 05:19 |
| Treenaks | http://foodfight.org/fotos/2004/12-07%20Ubuntu%20Conference/?img_0018.jpg | 05:19 |
| lifeless | Treenaks: thats his home page - he does so look like that. | 05:19 |
| pasc | lifeless: that could be what he would like to look like | 05:20 |
| lifeless | :] | 05:20 |
| pasc | well I can't see anyone like that either | 05:21 |
| lifeless | I'm pretty sure him and rent boy have gone -> bc | 05:21 |
| lifeless | n | 05:21 |
| pasc | rent boy? | 05:21 |
| lifeless | Thom | 05:22 |
| pasc | ah | 05:22 |
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| Simira | is Ubuntu in plural Ubunti? | 06:11 |
| Mithrandir | I think it's uncountable | 06:14 |
| Simira | no, it's not! | 06:23 |
| Treenaks | Simira: it's countable? | 06:27 |
| Treenaks | Simira: I think it's more like "water".. | 06:27 |
| Mithrandir | *chuckle* | 06:28 |
| Treenaks | now ubuntite.. that's countable :) | 06:28 |
| Simira | nooo | 06:28 |
| Simira | One Ubuntu, more Ubunti | 06:28 |
| Mithrandir | Treenaks: mako had some crackhead plural for it.. do you remember? | 06:28 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: uh no? ubuntites? | 06:28 |
| Simira | like a lot of Ubuntu clients in a room? | 06:28 |
| Treenaks | Mithrandir: or ubuntits? :P | 06:28 |
| Simira | Ubuntas? | 06:28 |
| Treenaks | Simira: ubuntistas? | 06:28 |
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| pasc | ubuntish | 06:29 |
| Simira | regardless, I *know* it's Ubunti! | 06:29 |
| Mithrandir | Treenaks: I dont remember. | 06:29 |
| Mithrandir | Simira: drop a mail to sounder@ ? | 06:29 |
| Simira | no way... flaming is not encouraged | 06:29 |
| Treenaks | Simira: it's not flaming, it's asking a question | 06:29 |
| Treenaks | "what's the plural" etc. | 06:29 |
| Simira | But I know :p | 06:30 |
| Simira | besides, I have an article to finish now | 06:30 |
| === Mithrandir chuckles at Simira | ||
| Simira | lol | 06:31 |
| === farruinn doesn't understand | ||
| Simira | Ubuntu Women == Ubuntits :D | 06:31 |
| Mithrandir | farruinn: it might help you a bit to know that Simira and I are in the same room (: | 06:31 |
| farruinn | ah, ok | 06:32 |
| farruinn | what I really didn't understand though is why Simira asked a question to which he already knew the answer =) | 06:32 |
| Mithrandir | farruinn: we had a small discussion about it. And she's a she, not a he. | 06:33 |
| farruinn | sorry Simira | 06:33 |
| farruinn | wouldn't have thought that a woman would have said Ubuntu Women == Ubuntits :D | 06:33 |
| Simira | most men wouldn't. That's why they're men | 06:34 |
| === Mithrandir tickles Simira's foot | ||
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| remon | Mithrandir: sorry, I think public away is on by default on ksirc, I'll have a look at it right now | 06:51 |
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| remon | Mithrandir: I think I disabled it, please let me know if it has helped. I guess I don't see those messages like that in my window | 06:55 |
| Mithrandir | remon: ok, thanks. If you twiddle away/not away now, I can check. | 07:02 |
| Mithrandir | (or if you just did, it should be ok) | 07:02 |
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| Simira | hm.. Tsjoklat | 07:04 |
| Treenaks | Simira: I don't think she's online | 07:05 |
| Simira | ok | 07:06 |
| Treenaks | can I take a message? :) | 07:06 |
| Simira | Treenaks: not really, it's a women-thing :) | 07:06 |
| Treenaks | :) ok | 07:06 |
| Simira | Treenaks: just finished the article about Ubuntu and women in open source communities. Will put it out as soon as I get a few to read it and give me feedback on the language and spelling/grammatics | 07:08 |
| Treenaks | Simira: on the wiki? | 07:09 |
| Treenaks | Simira: or somewhere else? | 07:09 |
| Tsjoklat | I am here sorry mr. Bo was sick | 07:13 |
| Simira | Treenaks: on the wiki and mailing lists | 07:19 |
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| thom | Mithrandir: i need to package up readahead | 07:32 |
| === Treenaks hires a cheerleader team to cheer on thom while packaging | ||
| Treenaks | jdub: have you had time for the -nl list yet? :) | 07:34 |
| lifeless | that won't make thom package faster, you know. | 07:34 |
| RubenV | if no teams are available, i'll volunteer for the cheering | 07:34 |
| RubenV | that'll make him package faster ;) | 07:35 |
| lifeless | :) | 07:35 |
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| remon | Mithrandir: hmm, I'm getting a message now about being not longer away :( | 07:41 |
| Treenaks | remon: we're not getting that | 07:43 |
| remon | Ah, so it's allright now? | 07:43 |
| Treenaks | it seems | 07:43 |
| remon | fine :) | 07:44 |
| remon | BTW, do any of you know if there's a channel somewhere for Qt specific things? | 07:44 |
| Mithrandir | remon: try #qt or #kde-devel or #kde-dev or something? | 07:45 |
| Mithrandir | (I don't know if those exists, but it's always worth a shot) | 07:45 |
| remon | Ah, OK I'll try to do so, or if perhaps some of you are familiar with Qt programming :P | 07:45 |
| remon | (don't want to bother this list with offtopic stuff) | 07:46 |
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| Keybuk | heights, ice cream and coke | 08:14 |
| Keybuk | BAD BAD BAD COMBINATION | 08:14 |
| Keybuk | BOUNCEY! | 08:14 |
| Keybuk | doesn't really improve my aim much, though | 08:15 |
| elmo | BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY BOUNCEY | 08:15 |
| Mithrandir | hm? | 08:16 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: I WANT MY CRAAACK | 08:16 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: hotplug craaaack | 08:17 |
| Mithrandir | nooooow | 08:17 |
| Keybuk | I'm a fixin' hotplug at the moment | 08:17 |
| Keybuk | I slightly broke the input agent and it doesn't find the psmouse on X40s | 08:18 |
| thom | elmo in cyclone of hate shocker | 08:18 |
| Mithrandir | thom: how so? | 08:18 |
| pasc | can someone poke daniels for me? | 08:18 |
| thom | pasc: no, i can throw sweets | 08:18 |
| elmo | I can throw a glass full of coke at him, if you want | 08:18 |
| pasc | yeah that works | 08:19 |
| pasc | I think that hit | 08:19 |
| pasc | I heard it from here ;-) | 08:19 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 08:19 |
| elmo | no, that was me, being my quiet self | 08:19 |
| pasc | heh | 08:20 |
| === pasc comes to check on what's happening | ||
| === Keybuk kills pasc | ||
| Keybuk | you just started WW3 | 08:20 |
| pasc | uh oh | 08:20 |
| thom | elmo's divebombing seb and sjoerd | 08:21 |
| === Keybuk feels in a very insecure psition right now | ||
| === haggai feels vulnerable in the middle between thom,elmo,keybuk,pitti & daniels | ||
| Mithrandir | what's going on down there? | 08:23 |
| === Keybuk hugs haggai | ||
| thom | sweet fight | 08:23 |
| Mithrandir | jdub: fire up your webcam! | 08:23 |
| thom | ESUGAR | 08:23 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: "down"? where are you? | 08:23 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: home. | 08:23 |
| Mithrandir | I have an exam in about 12 hours. | 08:23 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: oh, good luck | 08:23 |
| daniels | someone throw a lolly at haggai | 08:36 |
| daniels | he's clearly far too pacifist | 08:36 |
| === haggai grabs an idle pneumatic drill and playfully drills daniels' skull a few times | ||
| thom | i exist to please | 08:37 |
| daniels | another drill | 08:37 |
| daniels | er | 08:37 |
| daniels | another lolly | 08:37 |
| daniels | he's clearly far too violent now | 08:37 |
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| === haggai growls | ||
| Treenaks | where is all this happening? Cristal? :) | 08:38 |
| thom | Treenaks: the "quiet" room | 08:39 |
| Treenaks | thom: ah, that means either elmo or lamont is there.. | 08:39 |
| thom | elmo | 08:39 |
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| lifeless | dinner time ? | 08:41 |
| Keybuk | we just pigged out on ice cream | 08:44 |
| Keybuk | much more fun | 08:44 |
| Treenaks | Keybuk: alcoholic ice cream? | 08:46 |
| daniels | configure:26108: checking for qglobal.h | 08:47 |
| daniels | configure:26122: result: found | 08:47 |
| daniels | configure:26141: WARNING: Qt development libraries not found | 08:47 |
| daniels | SPETHUL | 08:47 |
| Keybuk | no, strawberry | 08:47 |
| daniels | if test -z $kdelibs -o ! -f $kdelibs/libkdecore.la; then | 08:47 |
| daniels | have_qt=no | 08:47 |
| daniels | else | 08:47 |
| daniels | oh yeah, I remember that | 08:47 |
| === daniels applauds. | ||
| daniels | of course, it doesn't ever tell you that what you actually need is KDE | 08:48 |
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| thom | daniels: mcs is rebuilt - http://192.168.0.19/~thom/ | 08:50 |
| thom | grab all the mono-* crud from there | 08:50 |
| daniels | cheers | 08:50 |
| daniels | googling for "david zeuthen" bootchart: Did you mean: "david zeuthen" butchart | 08:51 |
| jdub | buttchart? | 08:51 |
| jdub | MEASURE MY ASS! | 08:52 |
| === Tsjoklat gets the tape measure | ||
| Tsjoklat | bend over? | 08:52 |
| === jdub blushes semi-politely. | ||
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| Tsjoklat | you demanded it :) | 08:58 |
| Tsjoklat | I just thought I would oblige you | 08:58 |
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| daniels | thom: KUNEKSHUN REFUSED | 09:09 |
| thom | yeah, i just got rebooted | 09:09 |
| thom | .110 | 09:09 |
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| daniels | ta | 09:13 |
| daniels | oh my god, how psychopathic | 09:14 |
| daniels | they don't actually *USE* KDE, they just borrow all the flags from kdecore | 09:14 |
| daniels | because they're too lazy to figure out which flags Qt needs themselves | 09:14 |
| thom | heh! | 09:17 |
| daniels | to go nicely with 'DESTDIR=' in mono/makefile.am | 09:18 |
| haggai | mjg59: seems I loose sound after suspend/resume | 09:19 |
| === Mithrandir whines at haggai | ||
| daniels | haggai: try alsactl power off, alsactl power on | 09:20 |
| === _rene__ is now known as _rene_ | ||
| haggai | aplay: pcm_write:1118: write error: Input/output error | 09:26 |
| haggai | daniels: nope | 09:26 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: hmmm? Pity you went already | 09:26 |
| Keybuk | hmm | 09:27 |
| Mithrandir | haggai: ooo building is sloooooooooow | 09:27 |
| Keybuk | I need to find someone else's laptop to experiment on | 09:27 |
| daniels | haggai: genius | 09:27 |
| haggai | Mithrandir: yup. And? :) | 09:27 |
| thom | I HAD TWO COPIES OPEN | 09:29 |
| thom | http://www.clearairturbulence.org/rob_weir.jpg | 09:30 |
| thom | it's all elmo's fault | 09:31 |
| === Mithrandir drinks some good whisky | ||
| === HcE wonders if Mithrandir wants some Braastad XO in 4de | ||
| HcE | ;) | 09:32 |
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| Mithrandir | HcE: I have about a full bottle of XO (bache) here. And a bunch of the balvenie and the glenlivet and other good whiskys. | 09:34 |
| HcE | here = at home? | 09:34 |
| Mithrandir | (whiskys? whiskies? whiskars?) | 09:34 |
| Mithrandir | yup | 09:34 |
| Mithrandir | got back last night | 09:34 |
| HcE | from Italy? | 09:35 |
| HcE | or was it Spain | 09:35 |
| HcE | ? | 09:35 |
| Mithrandir | from Spain. | 09:35 |
| HcE | =) | 09:35 |
| Mithrandir | Italy was a little more than a month ago. | 09:35 |
| Mithrandir | more like two, actually | 09:35 |
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| === HcE observes that it rains outside | ||
| HcE | nothing like a realy good norwegian winter | 09:36 |
| Mithrandir | this isn't a norwegian winter, it's a winter in Trondheim. | 09:37 |
| Mithrandir | which is a totally different thing | 09:37 |
| HcE | hihi | 09:37 |
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| stockholm | lifeless: ? | 09:37 |
| stockholm | mdz: ? | 09:37 |
| === Keybuk explains to stockholm about timezones :p | ||
| Treenaks | Keybuk: stockholm is in GMT+1 just like you Keybuk :) | 09:38 |
| stockholm | Keybuk: i dont know in which timezone he is now. please tell me. | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | Spanish | 09:40 |
| Keybuk | Europe/Madrid | 09:40 |
| stockholm | Keybuk: so, what does that tell me? | 09:40 |
| thom | that he's probably in BED | 09:41 |
| stockholm | WHAT??? | 09:41 |
| stockholm | thom: get real | 09:41 |
| stockholm | why would he be in bed now? | 09:41 |
| thom | because he's ILL and WORKING TOO HARD | 09:41 |
| stockholm | if he came to spain, is ill and works still to hard he needs a cluebat. | 09:42 |
| stockholm | thx, anyway. | 09:43 |
| thom | what planet are you from? it's a WORK CONFERENCE | 09:43 |
| daniels | christ, dude. | 09:43 |
| daniels | he has to be here for work, and he really is quite sick | 09:43 |
| stockholm | thom: earth. and i got my "how do i keep healthy" basis down all right. | 09:43 |
| Kamion | stockholm: you're being really unpleasant here | 09:44 |
| stockholm | sorry, i did not want to. | 09:44 |
| Kamion | don't use this channel to hassle people. | 09:44 |
| stockholm | i did not want to, sorry. | 09:44 |
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| daniels | anyway, mdz hangs out in #debian-devel also, last I checked | 09:44 |
| === fabbione preload the sodomotron | ||
| fabbione | argh too late | 09:45 |
| fabbione | ;) | 09:45 |
| Keybuk | s'ok, I could do with a good buggering; load it up! | 09:45 |
| === Kamion readjusts stockholm's social skills :-/ | ||
| Kamion | depressing, that | 09:45 |
| === thom decides to sleep on the beach for the rest fo the conference | ||
| Mithrandir | thom: oh, why? | 09:45 |
| Keybuk | Kamion: he's been a bit "ARE WE THERE YET?" about that mail | 09:45 |
| smurfix_ | thom: BRRR. | 09:45 |
| Kamion | Keybuk: yeah, just inhaled scrollback and saw that | 09:46 |
| daniels | thom: good plan | 09:46 |
| thom | see Keybuk's previous comment | 09:46 |
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| daniels | igood lord | 10:01 |
| daniels | thom: .157/~daniels/dbus/ | 10:04 |
| kylem | gah. is that daniels? | 10:04 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, he needs a shave | 10:05 |
| daniels | aye | 10:05 |
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| shaya | so anyone home? | 10:05 |
| azeem | I am | 10:06 |
| shaya | anyone run bootlog | 10:06 |
| shaya | it doesn't seem accurate | 10:06 |
| smurfix_ | shaya: in what way? | 10:06 |
| shaya | well by wallclock from hitting enter at grub till I could log in was about 1 minute 10 seconds | 10:07 |
| shaya | bootlog counts only 14 seconds | 10:07 |
| shaya | and it was deffinitly more than 14 seconds of rc scripts | 10:07 |
| smurfix_ | So is stuff missing, or just time compression? | 10:08 |
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| shaya | it doesn't look like naything per sei is missing | 10:10 |
| shaya | but boot takes longer than 14 seconds | 10:10 |
| shaya | has anyone given though to parallelizing the boot? i.e. have gdm launching while dhcp is going | 10:11 |
| Keybuk | are you sure bootchart hasn't stuck itself at the start of rc2.d | 10:11 |
| Mithrandir | shaya: yes, read planet for the last few days. | 10:11 |
| Keybuk | (thus excluding rcS.d) | 10:11 |
| shaya | Mithrandir: no, it's in /etc/init.d/rc | 10:11 |
| smurfix_ | shaya: that doesn't answer the question | 10:12 |
| shaya | hmm | 10:12 |
| shaya | basically the processes it has | 10:12 |
| shaya | init 2 ; ksoftirqd/0 ; events/0 ; khelper ; kjournald ; udevd ; bootlogd ; rc 2 ; s13gdm ; gdm S20pcmcia | 10:13 |
| shaya | and some more | 10:14 |
| shaya | so perhaps just getting rc2? | 10:14 |
| smurfix_ | That does look like rcS is missing. | 10:14 |
| smurfix_ | look at /etc/rcS.d and rc2.d | 10:14 |
| shaya | # Log performance data | 10:15 |
| shaya | /etc/bootchart/bootlog start >/dev/null 2>&1 & | 10:15 |
| shaya | is right after export runlelvel previous in /etc/init.d/rc | 10:15 |
| Kamion | /etc/init.d/rc doesn't handle rcS | 10:15 |
| smurfix_ | init.d/rc is called twice | 10:15 |
| smurfix_ | or that | 10:15 |
| shaya | hmm | 10:15 |
| shaya | so bootchart's debian patch is broken | 10:16 |
| smurfix_ | put it in /etc/rcS.d/S00bootlog | 10:16 |
| smurfix_ | or bootchart or whatever the package's name is | 10:16 |
| === smurfix_ 's brain needs sleep | ||
| shaya | ok | 10:17 |
| shaya | time to reboot and try it | 10:17 |
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| Kamion | whoa, scary flickering lights in my room | 10:24 |
| === Kamion suspects we're overloading the power infrastructure a bit | ||
| Kamion | (although that in itself is scary) | 10:24 |
| jdub | hrm, that happened when i plugged in while in lamont's room last night? | 10:24 |
| jdub | s/\/$// | 10:25 |
| jdub | bong | 10:25 |
| Kamion | it happens when I plug anything in, but it just happened considerably more flickerily than that | 10:25 |
| jdub | whatever | 10:25 |
| Kamion | with added power-arcing noise | 10:25 |
| Kamion | maybe somebody brought an s390 along or something | 10:25 |
| daniels | heh | 10:26 |
| jdub | i have a special model x390 | 10:26 |
| jdub | it's an s390 in x300 format | 10:26 |
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| Kamion | but I can simulate that in hercules, so it must suck | 10:27 |
| === sid77 hi | ||
| Mithrandir | Kamion: do you simulate the power consumption as well? | 10:27 |
| Kamion | maybe that's my problem | 10:28 |
| ChrisH | Is anyone else aware about the "trying to overwrite `/etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu', which is also in package kdelibs-data" problem in gnome-menus? | 10:28 |
| ChrisH | My dist-upgrade is stuck. :( | 10:28 |
| Kamion | I think it's been filed, but check bugzilla | 10:28 |
| ChrisH | I filed it, too. Just wondered when this bug came along. | 10:29 |
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| shaya | well just reran it w/ it at s00 in rcS | 10:29 |
| shaya | didnt make a difference | 10:29 |
| shaya | still 14 seconds | 10:29 |
| shaya | actually 13 | 10:29 |
| shaya | http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~spotter/bootchart.png | 10:30 |
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| RubenV | shaya: my guess is that it starts too late | 10:32 |
| shaya | it's S00 in rcS | 10:32 |
| RubenV | don't run it like that | 10:32 |
| shaya | how can it start earlier! | 10:32 |
| RubenV | install it with the rc patch | 10:32 |
| shaya | it is | 10:32 |
| shaya | its there too | 10:32 |
| RubenV | you start it twice? | 10:32 |
| shaya | thats how it was installed | 10:32 |
| shaya | spotter@dent:/tmp $ grep bootlog /etc/init.d/rc | 10:32 |
| shaya | /etc/bootchart/bootlog start >/dev/null 2>&1 & | 10:32 |
| shaya | actually it was installed at s05 | 10:33 |
| shaya | I moved it to s00 | 10:33 |
| shaya | I can remove the s00 | 10:33 |
| RubenV | bootlogd != bootchart | 10:33 |
| shaya | hmm | 10:34 |
| shaya | good point | 10:34 |
| shaya | lets move bootlogd back | 10:34 |
| shaya | guess I got confused b/c of bootchart's program nam | 10:35 |
| shaya | but that just shows its in /etc/init.d/rc | 10:35 |
| RubenV | if it's at the right place in rc, then it should start a bit earlier afaik | 10:36 |
| RubenV | but i'm not that familiar with bootchart, sry | 10:36 |
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| Kinnison | Evening | 10:37 |
| shaya | whatever | 10:38 |
| shaya | not going to worry about it for now | 10:38 |
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| Tsjoklat | night all.. be good! | 10:45 |
| robtaylor|mataro | Kinnison, evening! | 10:45 |
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| Simira | evnin Kinnison. Wish my good luck for my exam tomorrow! Reading did not go too well. | 10:46 |
| Kinnison | heyhi | 10:47 |
| Kinnison | Simira: You'll do great. | 10:47 |
| === Kinnison hugs Simira | ||
| Simira | thanks, needed that hug! | 10:47 |
| Simira | have a nice conference tomorrow. :) I'l be online crying sometime after one o'clock | 10:49 |
| === Mithrandir waves good night | ||
| Kinnison | Mithrandir: You off to sleep? | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, and exam for me too tomorrow. | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | it'll be fine | 10:50 |
| Kinnison | Mithrandir: eep; *hugs* for you too | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | my last exam but one. :) | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | thanks :) | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | see you around | 10:50 |
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| Q-FUNK | I seem to get stuck at the "Loading /install/vmlinuz...." prompt on i386. as I'm not otherwise too familiar with d-i, any idea what could cause this? | 10:54 |
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| Kamion | that's not really even d-i, that's the kernel loading | 10:55 |
| Kamion | bah | 10:55 |
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| mxpxpod | I know this has probably been asked a million times, but when do we get to see the results of the mataro boot changes? | 11:15 |
| Kamion | some of them have gone into hoary already; I guess it's whenever Scott and Thom get round to tidying each of the bits up and uploading them :) | 11:16 |
| mxpxpod | ok | 11:17 |
| daniels | ok, dbus cvs uploaded, dbus-mono (which is a rather freakshow horror hack to break it out into a separate source package) is uploaded and in NEW | 11:17 |
| daniels | Kamion: gdm will probably hit tomorrow, X in a couple of days | 11:17 |
| Kamion | Scott and Thom> ... and whoever else I shamefully forgot :) | 11:17 |
| daniels | heh :) | 11:18 |
| === Kamion does some less glamorous tidying-up of man-db instead | ||
| mxpxpod | daniels: btw, good work | 11:18 |
| daniels | just saying yeah, it will all hopefully be in during the week | 11:18 |
| daniels | mxpxpod: cheers | 11:18 |
| daniels | sleep | 11:18 |
| === Kinnison boggles at all these people crashing at early times | ||
| Keybuk | yeah, I've got to tweak my stuff a bit more yet | 11:30 |
| Keybuk | there's about 10 or so packages to touch | 11:30 |
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