=== jdub_ [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] Kinnison, you awake? [12:05] yes [12:06] Kinnison, any idea how the generation of dbus_bindings.pyx works? [12:06] deep voodoo magic [12:06] hmm [12:07] its all a bit odd. it seems to use cpp to pull in c fn definites but its not pulling in things with are *next to each other* in the header file :/ [12:08] moo [12:08] hmm. maybe its only pulling in stuff thats used === robtaylor|mataro strokes his b34rD [12:09] perhaps [12:09] anyway; I'm off for a shower and then bed [12:13] haggai: Hrm. Irritating. [12:13] Can you file a bug with lspci and lsmod output? [12:18] mjg59: ok === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:19] haggai: Thanks! === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lupus_ [~lupus@kn-ivl-2.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === remon [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:50] do you guys have your kernel packages in version control somewhere? === RubenV [~lambda1@kn-res.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:58] hmmm, why isn't upgrade-notifier built with DBUS? === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === moyogo [~moyogo@HSE-Toronto-ppp189288.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-40-142.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-222-13-66.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker_ [~srbaker@blk-222-13-66.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker__ [~srbaker@blk-222-13-66.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@blk-222-13-66.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SepheeBear [~SepheeBea@24-193-86-231.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SepheeBear [~SepheeBea@24-193-86-231.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === justdave [~dave@66.227.241.236.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === justdave [~dave@66.227.241.236.gha.mi.chartermi.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Kinnison [~dsilvers@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:48] Morning === davyd_ [~davyd@oracle.bridgewayconsulting.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:00] daniels ; around? [09:00] how does X autoconfigure itself in Ubuntu? [09:00] davyd_: he's not emerged yet === jamesh [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:01] thom ; you don't happen to know the answer do you? ;) === plovs_work [~plovs@195.13.248.82] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:02] davyd_: there's a program called xresprobe - it does a mad combination of log greppery, dmi and guessing === lamont_r [~lamont@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:04] thom ; is it in straight debian? I am trying to get my new Linux based terminal server client to boot === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jdub [~jdub@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:09] davyd_: sup? [09:10] davyd_: nope, it's ubuntu-specific and a little bit of a hack === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:10] daniels ; hmm, all I need is a script to write out a config [09:10] your xresprobe works [09:10] do you have a script to wrap that? === davyd_ is willing to implement a hack [09:11] davyd_: hmmm, not really, sorry [09:11] the config is all debconf crack [09:12] davyd_: if you run that, that should give you the values you need [09:12] daniels ; yeah [09:12] on the other hand, Debian doesn't seem to want to write me an X config at all === davyd_ pulls a face at it... [09:12] missing -lXres on ia64 [09:13] ENOMSG :-( === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:15] daniels: i did send you a mail about xrestop [09:15] with the build logs === tuo2 [~foo@adsl-36-114.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [~james@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~pitti@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:25] morning davyd_ [09:28] fabbione: yeah, but this was actually a ftbfs in gnome :) === d3vic3 [~D-vice@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bitserf [~ljb@222-152-17-146.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === SepheeBear [~SepheeBea@24-193-86-231.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keybuk [~scott@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-43.6.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:59] ouch my laptop looses serious time when suspended [10:00] i thought mjg59 had fixed his scripts to reset the system clock from hardware [10:00] when you come out === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:04] elmo: is there an i386 machine with a hoary dchroot (glibc build-deps)? === robtaylor_ [~robtaylor@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [~doko@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:12] thom: hmm I should check if that gets run properly === mvo [~egon@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-43.6.240.220.rns01-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === D-vice [~D-vice@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:23] is somebody working on fixing mono in hoary ? [10:23] seb128: lamont will be kicking it soonish [10:24] it's a circular build dep [10:24] ok [10:24] I'm waiting to install tomboy for one week now :p [10:25] thomboy? [10:25] Treenaks: thomboy is called thombot, tomboy is wiki-for-the-desktop. [10:25] Mithrandir: I know what tomboy is :) [10:25] I think nobody did this joke before [10:25] Mithrandir: how were the exams? [10:25] yeah but the real name of thom is : Thom 'I slice my fingers' May [10:26] Treenaks: not until 1500, it seems. === thom moons fabio === fabbione fires a sodomotron missle to thom while he is mooning [10:30] seb128: any idea why nautilus in unstable doesn't show the right icons? They all look like one sheet of paper [10:31] Mithrandir, gnome-settings-daemon is running ? [10:31] Mithrandir: gnome-settings-daemon isn't running [10:37] seb128: ah, ok, thx [10:41] fabbione: compare http://www.suse.de/~nashif/autoinstall/9.1/html/importkickstart.html [10:41] SuSE seems to be a bit schizophrenic in exactly what it supports [10:42] SuSE is crackhead stuff [10:42] (and I know.. I'm using it at work.. because the "support" oracle..) [10:44] Kamion: i suggest a new approach [10:44] Kamion [10:44] Kamion: we reengineer the entire kickstart crap to be nice and dandy [10:45] and we push it to the other distro === RS [~remon@210-64-dsl.ipact.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] fabbione: hm ... elegant, reliable, on time, pick any two ... ;) [10:46] Kamion: eheh [10:47] not sure what I think the best approach is yet; more research to do [10:47] i agree === doko [~doko@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:04] most of the use of rhpl is its translate library [11:04] which appears to be a not-entirely-trivial wrapper around python's gettext library [11:06] there's always the option of just packaging up rhpl, of course [11:07] which I'm tempted to do anyway so that I can test the thing unmodified [11:11] hmm. has iconv.py been replaced with something else? [11:14] never mind, I'm just confused === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] fabbione: ./keyboard.py:25:import kudzu [11:20] ./keyboard.py:44: list = kudzu.probe(kudzu.CLASS_KEYBOARD, kudzu.BUS_UNSPEC, [11:20] ./keyboard.py:45: kudzu.PROBE_ONE) [11:20] yay for RH stuff [11:20] *yart* [11:20] Kamion: yeah, it's crack [11:20] they do the same for their monitors === ross [~ross@82-133-111-179.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:20] Kamion: told... ya... faster to rewrite ;) === ross [~ross@82-133-111-179.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === ross [~ross@82-133-111-179.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:21] fabbione: I suck at GUI code, just warning you in advance [11:22] Kamion: ask mvo :) [11:22] aha, kudzu is packaged === Astharot [~isager@www.zone-h.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:22] the SuSE hardware detection stuff is packaged as well, btw [11:23] yeah === bitserf [~ljb@222-152-17-146.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] isn't the suse hardware stuff called "a broken version of discover" ? === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:24] treenaks: abvod? [11:24] Mithrandir: hmm.. === Kamion drills down through a stupid number of dependencies [11:27] fabbione: I'm beginning to think you're right [11:27] azeem: we don't actually want to *use* it; I'm just trying to get stuff to run so that I can look at it here [11:28] Kamion: heh, I didn't accuse of it :) [11:28] Kamion: so do i :-) we can switch to debconf ;) [11:29] not ... entirely convinced that's the best plan [11:30] ehhe [11:31] someone please kick the AP [11:31] no new connections are allowed [11:32] not an AP problem [11:32] s/AP/gw [11:32] can't, ISP has root not me [11:34] thom: i said kick.. not root ;) [11:35] fabbione: suggest that we might want to leave the UI until later, for this reason: it needs to have a lot of data about possible answers to questions in the installer (e.g. languages, countries, timezones), and we need to figure out a way to extract that automatically [11:35] Kamion: agreed [11:36] fabbione: and if we do the format translation tool first, that doesn't rely on arch imports of anything external ;) === Mithrandir ponders upgrading vawad to hoary. Without rebooting. And throw and arch change into the process. [11:36] Mithrandir: don't :-) [11:36] fabbione: why not? [11:37] is vawad already warty? [11:37] nope, unstable [11:37] (because we can't create new connections at the moment) [11:37] ah damn [11:37] you are in .no [11:37] go ahead :-I [11:38] oh, *that's* why my CVS checkouts are failing [11:38] NAT table crap? [11:38] I so need to have already packaged openssh 3.9, then I could tunnel through my existing ssh connection to home [11:39] Kamion: that's called "screen" on the remote side. :) === BradB [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:39] Mithrandir: already running screen. not useful for getting a cvs checkout here [11:39] Mithrandir: i think he mean that you can open an extra tunnel on top of an existing connection without opening a new one? [11:39] yes, I do [11:39] Kamion: zmodem-over-terminal ? [11:39] Kamion: ah, oh, yeah. [11:40] Treenaks: falls in the "not fun" category [11:40] ok it seems to be back [11:40] just run ppp inside the screen and run ppp-over-screen-over-ssh? === Treenaks used to do that with minicom and the command shell at his isp === Mithrandir hides. === BradB_ [~bradb@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:40] Mithrandir: still don't see how I'd connect to said ppp [11:41] Kamion: /proc//fd/{0,1,2} [11:41] the point is to allow me to tunnel over a connection that's already established, which requires cooperation from ssh ... [11:41] Treenaks: I'm already using those :P [11:41] to type with ... [11:42] Kamion: get ppp to talk to your ssh's stdin/stdout. [11:42] ControlMaster/ControlPath is much nicer [11:47] OMG! You killed Kinnison! === Kinnison [~dsilvers@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Tsjoklat [~Tsjoklat@dialup-4.246.12.89.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mgedmin_ [~mg@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:10] http://wiki.gnuarch.org/moin.cgi/BazaarMockupUI === mdz [~mdz@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel === azeem just found the Ubuntu review in this week's c't magazine (german) [12:19] azeem: hey col [12:19] +o [12:19] azeem: what's the verdict? [12:19] it's just 1/3 of a page though [12:19] mdz: did you want to make *really* sure about not having webmin or something? it's in blacklist.security twice [12:19] "Debian ganz einfach" is the headline === Kinnison_ [~dsilvers@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:20] Treenaks: quite positive, though also quite superficial [12:20] mdz: I'd like to figure out a way to move the blacklists to the seeds archive; it's wrong for them to be part of germinate, really [12:20] SuSE 9.2 and FC3 had three full pages together in one of the last editions [12:21] what's so l33t about 9.2? [12:22] no idea, but SuSE is traditionally the most popular Linux distribution in germany, so I guess it makes sense that they take a closer look [12:23] carlos, it WORKS [12:24] accessd LIVES [12:24] cue lightning & thunder [12:24] robtaylor_: sjoerd told me that hald people is asking for such feature ;-) [12:24] so we need it in place as soon as possible [12:24] could you put it in arch? [12:24] robtaylor_: or you still need to learn "baz add" ;-) [12:25] well main work is in the dbus python bindings [12:25] a "baz for cvs junkies" would be nice === mjg59 gets woken up by UPS [12:25] mjg59: ah, the life of a student [12:25] mjg59: what bling have you got today? === mjg59 then has to pay import duty on someone else's package [12:25] daniels: It's from Thinkgeek, but it's not for me [12:26] oops [12:26] arh [12:26] carlos, shall i send you my dbus packages? [12:26] Treenaks: baz is having a face clean to be easily used by cvs/svn users [12:26] carlos: yay [12:27] robtaylor_: yeah, please, send me a tar.gz will all the beast, I could commit it into our my archive if you are not able to do it yourself === Burgundavia_ [~rasputin@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:29] carlos, well i might as well figure arch out ;) [12:29] i'm just going to finish the example daemon [12:30] ok === Simira [rpGirl@m146i.studby.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:33] Hey Simira. How was the exam? [12:33] I'm still breathing. [12:33] Don't know, really. But I feel ok about it, and glad it's over === Kinnison hugs [12:34] :) *hugs back* [12:34] now it's holidays for me [12:34] just finishing christmas presents and stuff [12:34] carlos, http://sourcecontrol.net/~rtaylor for new dbus [12:35] robtaylor_: er, dude [12:35] the freshest dbus is in hoary :) [12:36] there's dbus CVS in hoary, and dbus-mono is just waiting on lamont to break mcs 1.0.4's circular build-dep [12:36] daniels: so the patch from rob is in? [12:37] carlos: which one? [12:37] daniels: the one about the python bindings [12:37] daniels: you fixed the ftbfs then? [12:37] daniels, thats my custom crack [12:38] robtaylor: do you have your patch alone? [12:38] just preparing it right now ;) [12:38] robtaylor_: cool :) [12:38] robtaylor: thanks [12:39] lamont_r: the one that isn't in p.u.c/~lamont/buildLogs/d/dbus/0.22+cvs.200412122010-0ubuntu2/ ? [12:39] heh [12:39] daniels: one of the amusing issues with only seeing failure mails... [12:39] lamont_r: heh :) [12:39] carlos, http://sourcecontrol.net/~rtaylor/dbus-python-auth.diff [12:40] robtaylor_: is that against cvs? [12:40] daniels, yep [12:40] as of about 0030 UTC last night [12:40] (um.. i mean today ;) ) [12:40] robtaylor: we already have the getunixuser method, I was using it from the current bindings... [12:41] robtaylor: let's move this to #accessd [12:44] Kamion: I think a single entry in blacklist is sufficient [12:44] Kamion: moving the blacklists into the seed archive sounds appropriate as well === carlos [~carlos@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:49] mdz: what do you think would be a good name for a linux-source-almostcrackfotheday ? [12:49] s/fo/of [12:49] fabbione: linux-crack-crack-crack? [12:49] or possibly linux-image-crack-crack-crack [12:49] i need to make the orig.tar.gz indipendent from the version [12:50] linux-source-crack sounds about right [12:50] since we can keep it uptodate via patches [12:50] mjg59: do you happen to know which scripts get run for APM events? [12:50] lamont_r: yeah [12:50] thom: mono needs help on i386 and ppc, yes? [12:51] bob2: /etc/apm/apm_proxy or some such crack [12:51] fabbione: better might be 'linux-source-bleeding-edge' [12:51] The main issue with apm is that the Linux driver current has no way to reject events [12:51] So when someone presses a sleep button, you're damn well going to sleep [12:51] mjg59: oh, heh, 'twas trying to disable sleep-on-lid-close [12:51] Haha. Nope. [12:51] mjg59: I've finished my first pass of tosh_acpi2 [12:52] If it's a Thinkpad, you can probably do so with the thinkpad-modules stuff [12:52] Kinnison: Fucking rock [12:52] bob2: Alternatively, make the kernel work [12:53] (you probably still won't be able to tell the difference between lid and suspend calls, but still) [12:53] mjg59: So I have a set of acpi scripts/events for lock, brightness [12:53] mjg59: and suspend/hibernate work [12:53] mjg59: hm, it's a t23, which apparently has unusable acpi support in addition to apm [12:54] daniels: not that any of us care, but I have 77 build logs (failures) that mention -lXinerama - I expect that most of those are missing build-deps... [12:54] bob2: Oh arse [12:54] How unusable is the acpi? [12:54] Kinnison: Hurray [12:54] lamont_r: bounce me alist [12:54] Kinnison: And they work properly, rather than in a crack-addled manner? [12:54] lamont_r: well, of the ones that should be fixed [12:56] mjg59: hm, seems the kernel blacklisted it [12:56] bob2: Oh, because of an excessively old BIOS? [12:56] mjg59: sounds like it [12:56] bob2: What does dmidecode say the BIOS date is? [12:56] acpi=force, yo === mgedmin has a t23 === mgedmin wants power management to work well === mgedmin currently runs debian with 2.4 kernel and with apm, where everything works [12:57] Hoary is going to have totally rad laptop support [12:58] lamont_r: yes [12:59] mjg59: do we need more kernel patches? [12:59] lunch is about to be put out [12:59] mjg59: my software suspend is completely screwed too [12:59] mgedmin: 2.6.9 works well with acpi on my X22, anything below that failed [12:59] uh, hibernation [12:59] lamont_r: i am more for linux-source-break-my-box-hard [12:59] *phew* [01:00] bob2: I have disabled suspend on lid close somehow on my t23; reguar suspend event (Fn+F4) still work === herzi [~herzi@d061023.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:00] seens like I may get the insurance money for my camera, at least, even though I don't have the reciept or anything. [01:00] haggai: How so? [01:01] linux-source-bleeding-edge [01:01] bob2: I don't remember if I did that with tpctl, with the bios, or if I booted to windows -- it was ages ago [01:01] that's it [01:01] 22:00:35 Nemesis__ | Release Date: 05/08/2002 [01:01] 22:00:43 Nemesis__ | Characteristics: [01:01] 22:00:56 Nemesis__ | {PCI, PCMCIA, PNP, APM} is supported [01:01] mjg59: ^ [01:01] Simira: oh, awesome [01:01] bob2: Weird. I'd expect that to do acpi happily. [01:01] i wonder if my desktop supports acpi suspend to disk [01:02] ross: Define acpi suspend to disk [01:02] S4OS (like swsusp) is the ACPI spec's preferred suspend to disk mechanism [01:02] s4bios, yo [01:02] S4BIOS is mostly deprecated [01:02] heh, yeah [01:03] my omnibook *ostensibly* did s4bios, but in reality only did suspend-to-disk in apm [01:03] mjg59: i'll be happy if i can suspend to disk, don't care how :) [01:03] ross: swsusp ought to do it [01:04] Oh, rock [01:04] John Fremlin seems to have written apm event rejection code [01:05] http://john.fremlin.de/programs/linux/offbutton/index.html - makes apm work like acpi [01:06] mjg59: repeated kernel oopses [01:08] haggai: What sort? [01:08] mjg59: I was pondering adding some code to power/disk.c to decide when it's not worth freeing memory any more [01:08] Kinnison: Feel free [01:08] mjg59: but since it takes forever for swsusp to decide how many pages to copy; I figured it'd be easier to let it free stuff [01:08] Pavel's got various speedups for post 2.6.10 [01:08] Heh [01:08] Yeah [01:11] haggai: When do you get the oopses and what do they look like? === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:18] tho [01:18] ciao enrico ! [01:18] hi enrico! In Taiwan? [01:18] Hi everyone! [01:19] Landed safely and happily in Taiwan, spent the weekend to buy and setup the new laptop, now I'm alive online and kicking! [01:19] oooh [01:19] hey Simira [01:19] buy me a new cam as well? [01:19] enrico, new Laptop? :) [01:19] hi fabbione [01:19] ciao enrico. are you a member of the X40 cabal now? [01:20] We had 3 X40 people in the pub yesterday [01:20] thom: TINC! [01:20] (what is a X40?) [01:21] Ubuntu's favourite laptop [01:21] IBM ThinkPad X40 :love: [01:21] ;) === HcE is a T40p user [01:23] mjg59: freaking cult === Simira also wants one! [01:23] elmo: one of us ... one of us ... one of us ... one of us ... [01:25] Just.. the.. two of you? === seb128 [~seb128@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:30] mjg59: during lots of dots, not sure what exactly it is doing. I couldn't use the hibernate.sh script at all - the display was turned off. I had to do it by echo -n disk >/sys/power/state [01:31] mjg59: seemed to be oopsing in the scheduler [01:31] mjg59: dude, you had an acpi-support 0.10 in your archive a while ago, and now it's 0.9+mjg... -> turns out that's why my suspend to ram sucked [01:31] mjg59: now it's *awesome*, and very fast [01:33] Ah, right [01:33] Heh === enrico bought an Asus because he's in Taiwan [01:34] haggai: If you could extract the oops, that would be rad [01:34] This thing runs Linux so well! [01:34] haggai: If you want to use the script, then comment out the dpms off call [01:34] jdub: No excessively dodgy graphical glitches? [01:36] mjg59: not really, no === smurfix_ [~smurf@smurfix.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:36] mjg59: some times a double X refresh [01:36] hey enrico [01:36] jdub: hey! [01:36] jdub: Yeah, you'll get that at the moment [01:37] jdub: Can you try disabling Option VBERestore and see if it still works? [01:37] jdub: yeah, the vbe mode switch is bong [01:37] mjg59: you'll sometimes get straight mode switches doing that [01:37] mjg59: it's random afaict [01:37] daniels: ? [01:37] Oh, right [01:37] yeah [01:37] mode switch will sometimes switch to nothing, backlight comes on, flashes off, whole screen flashes, backlight cycles again, screen flashes twice, and it's switched [01:38] haven't been able to find a pattern yet === ogra [~ogra@p508EAB12.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:39] hmm, ok, commented [01:40] will see what happens next time === RubenV [~lambda1@kn-res.kuleuven.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] Mithrandir: hmm, so is /usr/X11R6/lib32/libGL.so* a diversion already? === stratus [~stratus@200.198.184.97] has joined #ubuntu-devel === `anthony [~anthony@213.151.107.243] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:49] rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a [01:49] rm -f /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a [01:49] oh man, nvidia-glx is so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, wrong [01:51] daniels: I don't think so? [01:52] Mithrandir: ok, I think I know how to do it now [01:52] nvidia-glx-wrong.so.so.so.so.so.so.so.so.so.so.so.so # because sonames are good === thom throws foil balls at kamion === Kinnison joins in [01:53] Kamion: that's true. [01:53] using the secret teleporter between rooms, apparently [01:53] *nod* [01:53] Kamion: it's magic [01:53] .la, a note to follow .so [01:53] Throw the ball hard enough and it tunnels through the wall [01:53] QUANTUM BALLS [01:53] quantum tunnels? [01:54] Keybuk: that's the funniest hacker joke EVER [01:54] Goodness gracious, great balls of foil === Kinnison murders Keybuk and Kamion [01:54] by feeding them chocolate? [01:54] i vote we kill every one involved with libtool, and their children, and their childrens children, lo unto the third generation [01:54] Keybuk: yes please [01:54] Kamion: come get some [01:54] Kamion: Kinniwinni has some === Kinnison has plenty [01:54] BONUS === Treenaks adds Keybuk's song to his sig file [01:55] heh [01:55] ogra: hey, you back in northern europe yet? :) [01:56] Treenaks: everything is frozen here :( [01:56] ogra: here as well... [01:56] -1C in Amsterdam [01:56] you're home now? [01:57] Keybuk: I've been home for the last 2 days [01:57] aww [02:00] thats how -4 looks like http://www.grawert.net/131204%20000.jpg [02:00] pitti: i don't think it's worth bothering with a system polypaudio daemon [02:00] hey ogra [02:00] guys... STAY where you are ! [02:00] hey [02:00] jdub: why not? are several parallel instances work together well? [02:00] ogra: i'll be going back to summer :) [02:00] ogra: Hi ogra [02:01] ogra: had a nice trip? [02:01] damned [02:01] hi ogra [02:01] yep....was so tired....the night before was to long :) [02:01] pitti: not really, will chat to you about it later [02:01] hi mvo [02:01] pitti: it's really designed to be a user daemon [02:05] Igitt [02:20] has anyone got a serial cable with them? [02:20] for logging oops stuff === GotD0t [~GotD0t@24.48.147.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:24] dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: format of libfglrx_gamma.1 not recognized [02:25] daniels@catsby:~/canonical/kernel/l-r-m/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9-2.6.9/debian% find ./ -name libfglrx_gamma.1 [02:25] daniels@catsby:~/canonical/kernel/l-r-m/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.9-2.6.9/debian% [02:25] cool [02:25] amu: I can reproduce the mtr crash in my debug version [02:28] Mithrandir: ping [02:29] daniels: he has to leave for his exam now [02:29] Simira: ahr, wish him good luck [02:29] I will [02:29] Simira: cheers [02:29] (guess he's not left, and reads this, though) [02:30] any hoary nvidia-glx users around? [02:30] Mithrandir: 'luck, dude [02:30] ahr [02:30] Mithrandir: g'luck! [02:33] daniels: pong [02:34] haven't left yet. [02:34] I'll be off in a couple of minutes, though [02:35] ah, rad [02:35] just wanting you to test some nvidia stuff and optionally borrow root on your machine to test out some wacky x stuff involving relinking the nvidia driver so we can load it with libgl, but concentrate on your exam :) [02:37] sure, I'll prod you when I'm back. [02:37] cheers dude === Mithrandir leaves for exam. [02:37] g'luck! === Simira hushes Mithrandir out of the door [02:37] Simira: didn't you have exams as well? [02:37]