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stvnlinux_mafia: hm, beagle/best was complaining didn't really look into it since i blamed the new kernel12:00
AlbertEin_ZaYanop, sypnaptic didn't find it12:01
linux_mafiastvn, im using a stock hoary kernel, if you dont use reiser or a another fs (you have to compile in extended attribute support) it should be fine as it is12:01
stvnlinux_mafia: ah ok, will try again than12:02
stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: ah ok, sorry monodevelop isn't in the stock ubuntu IIRC, check the wiki12:02
AndyRanyone using ess maestro sound?12:03
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AlbertEin_ZaYastvn, ok, thanks, so i need to bould from source?12:03
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stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: no, do you have hoary?12:03
AlbertEin_ZaYastvn, hoary ?? what is that?12:04
stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: hoary is the upcoming ubuntu release, unstable developer kinda thing12:04
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AlbertEin_ZaYaahh no, i have warty dog or something12:05
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stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: but it appears not, you can have a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreakMyUbuntu12:06
linux_mafiamonodevelop is in hoary's universe, or you can use tsengs repo12:06
stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: i think it has monodevelop12:06
stvnAlbertEin_ZaYa: or you could go for hoary it does contain monodevelop but it's still in an unstable state12:07
devFranFirst, hello, i'm from spain, sorry my bad english. I have a new Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo M 7427, and I install XP and ubuntu, but the pc when i restart don't work, show two lines of grub, and lock. The amilo is a laptop, and the installation of xp first and later ubutu are without parametres.12:07
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AlbertEin_ZaYathanx linux_mafia12:08
AlbertEin_ZaYadpkg -i ?12:08
linux_mafiaalthough even if you use tsengs repo, monodevelop probably depends on other stuffonly available in hoary12:08
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AlbertEin_ZaYawell, if that doesn work, i'll install it from source12:08
AlbertEin_ZaYai've already did it on slackware12:09
tuppaanyone installed hoary on an IBM thinkpad r40?12:09
stvndevFran: if you are very unsure of your english, you could try #ubuntu-es but otherwise we are willing to help12:09
tuppaACPI still doesn't let me suspend12:09
AlbertEin_ZaYaagrrr!!! now k3b :(12:10
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linux_mafiatuppa, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops/ mentions the r40, you looked at that?12:12
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tuppalinux_mafia:  yep12:13
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Syberiusdoes anyone know how to keymap / bind the additional keys on logitech keyboards?12:14
linux_mafiatuppa, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2881&highlight=r4012:15
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devFranThanks for all, AlbertEin_Zaya and cia ;)12:16
scoonSyberius, using metacity ?12:16
devFranI tri with ubuntu -es12:16
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scoonSyberius, yes12:18
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Syberiusscoon: how do you go about switching window manager then?12:20
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scoonSyberius, i use the BT cordless elites w/ metacity.  And almost all the keys are mapped12:20
scoonSyberius, http://gnome-hacks.jodrell.net/hacks.html?id=1412:20
farruinndoes someone know where "stickies" applet keeps its data?12:21
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scoonSyberius, see if that will help you.  But different wm's have different ways they suggest switching away from metacity12:21
Syberiustbh im quite happy with gnome,12:22
farruinnmy x is borked because I installed some packages from hoary but I was stupid enough to only save the list of packages installed in a stickie12:22
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farruinnn/m that, I paniced and asked before I tried to find it myself12:23
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titanfoxhello, I was just curious on what core Ubuntu 4.10 is built12:25
socommDebian Unstable.12:25
titanfoxoh, so its a debian core12:25
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titanfoxbut why unstable ?12:25
titanfoxwill the next ubuntu release be based on a stable core ?12:26
paspourtoigen: what are you doing? ctcp versioning the whole channel? !!12:26
farruinntitanfox, 4.10 was debian unstable made stable =)12:26
rjekgen did that the other day, too, IIRC.12:27
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socommtitanfox: No Ubuntu is meant to be on the bleeding edge. Only stable-ized for day to day use.12:27
farruinnany apt wizards that can help?  I get an error "Invalide record in the preferences file, no Package header."12:28
Kamiontitanfox: we start with unstable so that we're free to make our own release management decisions (mostly) independently of whatever mode Debian happens to be in.12:28
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lizdeikareiserfs4 in hoary ?12:29
titanfoxbut if I download for example VLC, what package should I use ?12:29
neoxedany one know how i can share a folder over the network in linux12:29
titanfoxthe woody or the unstable sid ?12:29
Kamionlizdeika: likely to depend on whether it gets into the upstream kernel.12:29
farruinnoy, n/m again, sorry12:30
Kamionwe don't have filesystem experts on staff to evaluate its suitability, so trusting Linus et al to decide is probably a better plan12:30
lizdeikahehe. ok12:30
neoxedif i download Video Lan Player For Red Hat Linux it wont work for ubuntu will it?12:31
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lizdeikaneoxed: you should install ubuntu's deb12:33
farruinnneoxed: always always, if there is a deb for something it's better to go with that12:33
farruinnotherwise you're just asking for a broken system12:33
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neoxedall i see is red hat12:34
neoxedfamilliar linux12:34
neoxedbut no ubuntu12:34
farruinnneoxed, to search for a program, use synaptic or apt-cache search12:34
neoxedits got the Source code on here but i dont know how to compile it heh12:35
lizdeikaneoxed: http://ubuntuguide.org/12:35
socommneoxed: Sometimes it will but you gotta use something like alien for it to install under your distro.12:35
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AndyRlo ppl12:37
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tuppalinux_mafia:  thanks12:42
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infieanyone know of an editor which can be used to edit files over ssh12:44
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rjekinfie: Both Vim and Emacs let you do that.12:45
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infieI'm setting up an environment for an Electronics head to edit a lua script remotely12:46
farruinninfie, nano is a bit more user friendly if you don't know vim or emacs12:46
infieI don't think Vim or emacs would be appropriate12:46
paspourtoiinfie: nano then12:47
nicktaylorHey everyone.  My parents have this old HP that has a busted on-board video chip.  Do you guys know of anyway that I could boot into Linux (which is not installed currently) and set it up as a file server over ssh?12:47
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socommnicktaylor: Maybe via paralell port.12:47
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decklinnicktaylor: serial console? you'll have to buy a null modem cable.12:47
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amish_geekAnyone familiar with installing Ubuntu on a hardware raid 1 setup?12:48
infienow nano doesn't seem to want to edit files over ssh12:48
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infieI meant in this fashion:12:49
nicktaylorsocomm, decklin: Thanks.  I'll look into both.12:49
lil_anthonywhat does it mean when you type mozilla-firefox and get segmentation fault?12:49
infienano roy@geomonitor:/mnt/vibmon.lua12:49
jon1012lil_anthony, memory error, usually produced by conflicting version of dependencies12:49
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decklininfie: you want something like shfs then.12:50
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amish_geekwhy wont ubuntu make use of my hardware raid?12:50
paspourtoiinfie: ssh foo@bar nano /file/to/edit12:50
lil_anthonyok thanks12:50
Kamionnano isn't that clever12:51
infieoh.. silly me12:51
jon1012paspourtoi, ah pour qui alors ? mdrrr12:51
paspourtoipour personne !12:51
Kamionpaspourtoi: you need ssh -t there12:51
usualman, that new white theme in xchat was driving me crazy in hoary12:51
Kamionat least if you want to do it with a single command12:51
paspourtoiKamion: good point12:51
jon1012usual, hey it's better than dark :p12:51
jon1012usual, I love the new white theme :p12:52
lizdeikaway better12:52
paspourtoiKamion: why not just ssh in then edit?12:52
usualjon1012, I hated it, I changed it back12:52
amish_geekcan anyone help me?12:52
jon1012usual, there should be a theme selector ;)12:53
usualjon1012, agreed12:53
socommjon1012: Nothing stopping you from writing one.12:54
infiepaspourtoi: This is for someone who has never once used unix12:54
jon1012socomm, right :)12:54
infieie my boss12:54
jon1012socomm, maybe I will write one so :p12:54
Kamionpaspourtoi: that works too, take your pick12:54
amish_geekhas anyone here installed ubuntu on a raid setup?12:55
socomminfie: How about MS-Word2k?12:55
paspourtoiKamion: the -t option is good if you want out after editing I guess12:55
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infieThat includes remote-ssh editing?12:55
lizdeikadamn i dont understand what happened to menu in hoary "Computer" became "Actions"12:55
socomminfie: I was kidding ...12:56
infieah well, looks like he's going to have to use a console editor12:57
Amaranthlizdeika: GNOME got a new menu design and the Ubuntu changes haven't been applied to it yet12:57
paspourtoiinfie: you'd have to be accurate with the path to the file: I think it's easier to log in over ssh then cd to the dir, ls , start nano12:57
socomminfie: Anyways if you want your boss to edit something just use nano, it has the list of commands on the lower section of the screen.12:57
socommpaspourtoi: Assuming that the server has a copy of nano installed.12:57
lizdeikaahh ok then. waiting12:57
infiepasourtoi: It is for a specific file on a tiny embedded device used in mine sites12:58
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paspourtoisocomm: indeed12:58
infiea lua script to control the parameters12:58
GotD0tanybody know anything about wine, and why it keeps telling me it cant find the windows, system, and dos drives, and then cannot find what im trying to run, even though it exists12:58
socommGotD0t: Did you use winesetuptk?12:59
GotD0tsocomm: yea12:59
infieAnyway, just on the side12:59
socommGotD0t: Make sure you used it as the same user who's trying to run wine.12:59
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kleedracAny reason why gmplayer tries loading mplayer.conf then exits with the message Illegal instruction01:00
amish_geekanyone have any experience with raid?01:00
socommamish_geek: Try the ubuntu mailing list.01:01
DonLHi. This is my first time here. Just downloaded Warty today, and I'm mighty impressed01:01
amish_geeksocomm: whats the address?01:01
jon1012(for wine, the best thing to use is crossover for the apps ^^)01:01
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kleedracDonL: I'm with you ... installed earlier today :)01:01
socommamish_geek: ubuntlinux.org search for it there.01:02
DonLHad a major Fedora crash, and wasn't ready to go back there.01:02
jon1012GotD0t, (maybe try http://www.codeweavers.com)01:02
kleedracDonL: heh ... same here!!01:02
infieWarty is very nice01:03
kleedracNow I just need to get gmplayer working and I think I'm about done :)01:03
infieGrub vomited on my old bios/new HDD combo01:03
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DonLYes. I've been wanting to like Debian for a long time01:03
infieBut other than that, def. nice01:03
kleedraclol ... last time I tried Debian it didn't support my USB kb/mouse so I went back to Suse01:04
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kleedracI think Ubuntu might just keep me away from Suse for a while :)01:04
DonLinfie, too bad. Mine went in and set itself up really nicely01:04
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|QuaD-kleedrac: i tried suse for 3 days before i put ubuntu on, i cried daily (came from 2.5 years of debian unstable  and 1.5 years of debian testing/stable)01:05
Quest-MasterI hated Suse too.. my first Linux distro01:05
DonLI've always used rpm's - first Mandrake for about 3 years, then Fedora for one.01:06
jon1012DonL, always used rpms too :)01:06
|QuaD-DonL: i started on mandrake, then to debian01:06
|QuaD-Quest-Master: i tried suse for no more then 3 days01:06
jon1012DonL, until ubuntu of course :p01:06
|QuaD-after day 1 i knew i had to get a new distro01:06
DonLI learned to love apt-get and synaptic with the version on Fedora01:07
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DonLIt didnt' work as well as it does on this distro though01:07
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Yakfisherwhats wrong with suse?!01:07
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ficusplanetI'm trying to set up some nfs shares, but when I try to mount it, I get: mount: RPC: Remote system error - Connection refused.  Any ideas?01:08
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scoonficusplanet, either your firewall is blocking that traffic or you do not have all of the daemons needed for nfs started01:09
AndyRcan anyone do a skype call to me to test, im not having much luck with echo12301:10
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marsjaysi'm having some trouble with my prism54 wifi card.. when i insert it the modules load and it shows up when i run iwconfig, but it says "status: not ready!", i think the firmware doesn't load correctly.. anyone know how to fix it?01:10
AndyRskype id = andrew_rogers01:10
ficusplanetscoon, How can I check to see if my firewall is blocking it?01:10
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scoonficusplanet, different firewalls have different places that they log that kinda of thing to01:11
scoonficusplanet, check the docs for the firewall that you are using.01:11
marcellusAny tips on getting a jdk etc installed on amd64? I just get broken dependencies (I use hoary).01:11
ficusplanetscoon, I don't know if I'm using any.  I just installed warty.01:11
Amaranthmarcellus: does sun's java support amd64?01:11
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scoonficusplanet, then you are not.01:11
Amaranthmarcellus: it wouldn't be a deb package, it would be a bin01:12
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scoonficusplanet, the default install does not use firewall if i remember correctly.01:12
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marcellusAmaranth: Well there are packages for debian and I can always use the IA32 mode, I guess.01:13
ficusplanetHmm ... then what could I be missing?  I have nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server installed.01:13
usualyay the menu is fixed in hoary01:13
usualhip hip hoaryy01:13
Amaranthmarcellus: You'll need an entire 32-bit toolchain01:13
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ficusplanetusual, Is it Apps, Places, System?01:13
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usualficusplanet, yeds01:14
ficusplanetusual, Great.  Right as I go back to warty, the new menus go in.01:14
usualficusplanet, you went to warty because of menus?01:14
ficusplanetusual, No, because of crashing.01:15
genyou were using unstable, what do you expect?01:15
ficusplanetgen, I'm not complaining.  I just had to move back so I can get some work done tomorrow.01:15
genmakes sense.01:16
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DonLI'm off to play some more with this distro, but I'm glad I found it and this irc01:16
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scoonficusplanet, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/01:17
scoonficusplanet, bookmark tldp.org that will quickly become one of your favorite ref's01:17
ficusplanetscoon, Thanks.01:18
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neoxedhow can i share a folder over my network?01:18
scoonficusplanet, np.01:18
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neoxedany one know how i can do that?01:19
neoxediv been trying for like 20 mins cant figgur it out01:19
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s0cks160 GB Western Digital for 50 bucks01:20
Gwildor|elsewherbut it01:20
Gwildor|elsewherbuy it01:20
Gwildor|elsewherget me one too01:21
Gwildor|elsewherits christmas01:21
geni just bought a 400 from seagate01:21
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marsjaysanyone got a clue on how to get cpu frequency scaling working on an amd athlon xp-m based machine?01:22
s0cksI just got 750 gig storage up to a TB.\01:23
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s0cksRaid, only with less expensive drives.01:23
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leverkusenmodprobe powernow-k7; apt-get install powernowd01:24
leverkusenthere is another module that selects the policy (performance, powersave)01:25
leverkusenI don't remember the name01:25
leverkusenjust src bash_completion and let it respond01:25
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marsjaysleverkusen: ok, i'll check it out..01:28
scoonneoxed, look into samba or nfs01:29
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marsjaysleverkusen: ah, perfect, thanks! i was struggling with cpufreqd, but apparently that wasn't right :)01:30
bpd1069is it cpu intensive to run my own DNS?01:31
leverkusenyeah, I tried some of them but powernowd gave me the silence I needed01:31
carthikSchoolbpd1069, not at all01:31
linux_twin02hi i just installed ubuntu 4.10 and it's not able to startx01:31
marsjaysnow it's only the matter of the wifi firmware which wont load :-/01:32
leverkusenI'm a bit disappointed besides the centrino performance I've seen in newer laptops01:32
bpd1069carthikSchool: thanks...  didn't want to invest the time and effort if it would make my system crawl01:32
carthikSchoolbpd1069, I have it running on my server (not at home) and it takes very little cputime01:32
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bpd1069linux_twin02: a goo place to start is to check out the /var/log/XFree86.0.log01:33
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bpd1069err googd01:33
amathishow can I see how much HD space I am using?01:33
marsjaysamathis: df -h01:33
amathismarsjays: gracias01:34
bpd1069carthikSchool: cool... want to make my webbrowsing a bit snappier... relying on my ISPs  DNS is a bit problematic at times01:34
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GotD0tanybody know a tool for ripping a dvd to the hard disk?01:39
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tuppaboth are interfaces to transcode01:40
scoontuppa, dvdbackup + mkisofs01:40
Amaranthdd if=/dev/hdc of=dvdrip.iso ;)01:41
tuppaAmaranth:  depends... if your DVD is encrypted, then it's not going to work very well at all...01:41
Amaranthsure it will01:41
Amaranthdd doesn't care about encryption, it'll be a bit for bit copy of the original, encryption and all01:42
tuppaAmaranth:  yes, but you'll get a metric ton of I/O errors from the drive01:42
tuppaand dd won't be able to read a thing01:42
tuppabecause your drive won't hand anything to dd01:43
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scoontuppa, Amaranth is correct.  The problem w/ that approach is when you need to compress the dvd for fit on a single layer disc01:43
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tuppadepends on what DVD you're talking about01:43
Amaranthso i can't test01:43
tuppaif it's data, then dd works fine01:44
tuppaif it's a movie DVD from Hollywood... thaen you've gotta get libdvdread to decrypt it first01:44
tuppai.e. the drive must have the key to decrypt the CSS01:44
tuppaotherwise it's all I/O errors from dd01:44
tuppa(I've done it before)01:44
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infieI run a script which should detach a process and exit, by using ssh roy@device /mnt/runterm.sh01:45
infieWhere runterm just does a "/mnt/vib /mnt/interface/term.lua&"01:45
neoxedhow can i find out what my router ip is01:45
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Amaranthneoxed: it should be
infieHowever the ssh process blocks, waiting for /mnt/vib /mnt/interface/term.lua& to complete01:46
scoonneoxed, what kind of router is it ?01:46
infiedespite the "&"01:46
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neoxedlinksys router01:47
jon1012 good night everybody :)01:47
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Quest-MasterCan I get the link to the Ship-It page where my friend can check the status of his order?01:47
scoonneoxed, probably check w/ linksys.com com for your router01:47
scoonneoxed, but i bet yours could be
AndyRanyone able to call me using skype to test it out?01:49
neoxedi know that im trying to find out what ip the router gave me01:49
RubenVQuest-Master: http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org01:49
neoxedKernel IP routing table01:49
neoxedDestination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface01:49
neoxed192.168.1.0     *        U     0      0        0 eth001:49
neoxeddefault         UG    0      0        0 eth001:49
neoxedthats whats in there01:49
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GotD0twhy is it k3b btw?01:51
tuppak3b has preminary support for transcode01:52
tuppanot as good as dvdrip, then again not as complex01:52
GotD0tno, i mean why is it called k3b01:52
tuppaalthough I haven't used k3b before01:52
tuppano idea, ask the guy who wrote  it ;)01:52
scoonneoxed, go to linksys.com and read the manual for your router.01:54
scoonneoxed, your router's ip is, by default linksys uses dhcp01:54
GotD0twow... k3b is SLOW01:55
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SophisticationGotD0t, what flags did you use when you recompiled k3b btw?01:56
GotD0tSophistication: i didnt recompile k3b...01:57
GotD0tthis isn't gentoo...01:58
SophisticationGotD0t, then why say its slow on the default & not try to speed up for your cpu?01:58
SophisticationGotD0t, :) Im just saying its linux & its possible to speed things up sometimes thats all01:59
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GotD0tSophistication: it shouldnt be so poorly made that it takes 45 minutes to rip a dvd that has no sort of encryption01:59
SophisticationGotD0t, You do know k3b uses cdrecord?02:00
scoonGotD0t, maybe it is your burner ?  anything in dmesg, do you have dma on your drives ?02:00
GotD0tno dma as far as i know02:01
SophisticationGotD0t, have you tryed a new firmware on the dvd drive02:01
scoonGotD0t, well that will do it.02:01
steakumwhat does everyone use in ubuntu to burn ISO's?02:01
GotD0tall im saying is windows takes 5 minutes to rip a dvd that IS encoded02:01
scoonGotD0t, why not just be certain and do a hdparm /dev/whatever-your-drives-devices-id's-are02:01
scoonGotD0t, and check02:01
scoonGotD0t, if dma is not enabled then you should look into enabling.02:02
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GotD0tscoon: what am i looking for in hdparm?02:02
trans_errsteakum, gnome?02:02
trans_errjust right click on an ISO and burn it02:03
scoonGotD0t, if dma is enabled02:03
scoonGotD0t, you were not certain02:03
GotD0tscoon: no its not02:03
infieIs there a reason ubuntu packages XFree86 rather than X.org?02:04
infieI am guessing that is a can of worms.02:04
tuppainfie:  try hoary ;)02:04
GotD0tinfie: hoary has it02:04
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GotD0tscoon: what is dma and how do i enable it02:04
infiehoary is the next version of U?02:04
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zenwheninfie, yes02:05
Sophisticationinfie, I say give it time for a move to xorg Im sure02:05
scoonGotD0t, check out man hdparm02:05
scoonGotD0t, that will tell you how to enable it.02:06
GotD0tscoon: it says its off02:06
scoonGotD0t, and of course google will help you decide if dma is something you want02:06
GotD0tscoon: can you explain it briefly?02:06
infieAnyway, I'm finding Ubuntu very useful for my job- nice work and so forth to whoever put it together02:06
Sophisticationexample /sbin/hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom02:07
scoonGotD0t, the short answer is that is makes everything go faster.02:07
GotD0tscoon: there is a catch, considering its not defaulted on02:07
tuppascoon:  let me tell you that typing dma in google and then press "I'm feeling lucky" is not what you would expect ;)02:07
scoonGotD0t, well no.02:07
scoontuppa, but you could try dma + linux02:07
scoontuppa, that would cut it down a bit.02:08
GotD0tscoon: there isn't a catch?02:08
scoonGotD0t, it is probably not enabled becuase your hw is old or can't use it.02:08
scoonGotD0t, but you SHOULD check out man hdparm02:08
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GotD0tscoon: its an 8x dvd burner... it cant be THAT old02:08
tuppascoon:  I was just mucking around02:09
scoonGotD0t, well i don't know why yours would be disabled.  when i installed warty, mine was enabled.  look, read the man page for hdparm02:09
ultrafunkGotD0t: you could probably also try "-u1" with hdparm, if your DVD and a faster device (say, an HDD) are on the same controller02:10
SophisticationGotD0t, whos the maker of the drive?02:10
GotD0tSophistication: light-on02:10
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SophisticationGotD0t, Check in your bios to see if DMA is supported there first before the OS02:12
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GotD0tSophistication: ah... that requires reboot02:12
GotD0till just have to tell my sisters girlfriend shes gotta wait for her dvd02:13
scoonGotD0t, unless she is hot, then invite her to make a diff one !!!!!!!!!!!102:13
scoonGotD0t, i said if she is hot02:14
scoonGotD0t, not -> IF02:15
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GotD0tlike i said, pervert02:15
SophisticationIm shocked a pervert is on irc quite frankly02:15
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linux_mafiawhat pervert? where?02:16
scoonGotD0t, i guess she is not hot then02:17
scooneh, reboot and check for a dma02:17
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arthurhow do i get mplayer to install using apt?02:18
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linux_mafiaarthur, its in multiverse02:20
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ineedhelpim having a problem installing mplayer following the writeup on ubuntuforums.org, its telling me that libpng isnt installed02:20
ineedhelphttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94 this is the thread im refering to02:21
arthurtrying to install with multiverse, but no success too.. :(02:21
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amathisit isn't that hard02:22
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arthuri get some broken-packages02:22
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ineedhelpi found my problem02:22
ineedhelpi needed libpng12-dev02:23
arthurDepends: libartsc0 (>= 1.3.1) but its not going to install02:23
arthursame with: libfribidi0, libggi2, libungif4g02:23
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GotD0tarthur: its not going to install, or its uninstallable?02:24
arthurThe following packages have unmet dependencies:02:25
arthur  mplayer-nogui: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not going to be installed02:25
arthur                 Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.10.4-5) but 0.10.4-3 is to be installed02:25
arthur                 Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not going to be installed02:25
arthur                 Depends: libungif4g (>= 4.1.3) but 4.1.0b1-6 is to be installed02:25
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crazneyhrm, for some reason in the standard virtual consoles (not x), my | key (shift \) gives me a ~, \ gives me #. it works normally in X. what could be going on there? dodgy keymap?02:26
Sophisticationps2 or usb02:26
arthurhow to solve that broken packages?02:26
EinzelgangerI have installed flash, but I seem to be missing some fonts, for example in macromedia.com, the menu in the top doesn't display the text, just an "empty menu-structure"02:26
crazneyhrm, and my " comes out as @02:27
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Einzelgangereven in the right-click => settings of flash, there is no text visable02:28
arthurGotD0t, you know how to solve that broken packs?02:29
pepsi_is there a command that will tell me if a window with a certain name is active? and one to bring that window to the front? ie. i want an application launcher that will open gcalctool if it is not already open and bring it to the front if it is already open02:29
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Amaranthyippee, the GNOME menus are almost usable again in hoary02:36
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neoxedhow do you install a run/run.bat?02:46
neoxedroot@NeoXed:/home/neoxed/j-ftp # dir02:46
neoxedbuild      doc                  hs_err_pid32439.log  LICENSE  src02:46
neoxedbuild.xml  hs_err_pid13614.log  hs_err_pid7083.log   readme   TODO02:46
neoxedCHANGELOG  hs_err_pid19369.log  jalopy               run02:46
neoxedCVS        hs_err_pid32343.log  lib                  run.bat02:46
netsplitDid you read the readme?02:46
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punkrockguy318what's the diffence between universe and multiverse?02:47
linux_mafiaAmaranth, whats almost mean?02:48
mjrpunkrockguy318, free/non-free02:48
Amaranthlinux_mafia: You still can't remove items.02:48
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punkrockguy318mjh oh02:48
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neoxedwhats the name of a good ftp program02:48
neoxedto download and upload things like BPFTP for windows02:48
punkrockguy318mjr, so can I install java through  multiverse?02:48
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punkrockguy318neoxed, are you looking for a gui of cli?02:49
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mjrpunkrockguy318, don't know02:49
punkrockguy318neoxed, gftp is really nice02:49
neoxedok thank02:49
linux_mafiapunkrockguy318, universe == if it breaks you get to keep the pieces, multiverse == the devs kicking them away from your hands as you crawl on the floor trying to pick them up, heh02:49
punkrockguy318linux_mafia, lo02:50
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punkrockguy318can I get java through multiverse?02:56
neoxedany one know any ftp servers i can connect to so i can see if this thing is working right02:57
huamnI've got this little problem with Ubuntu running on AMD64... just about every program bitches about shared libraries... For example the Firefox 1.0 installer says something like this: ./firefox-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:57
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huamnthat libgtx is in /usr/lib/, I checked.. but it's not found... does anybody know why?02:58
punkrockguy318does ubuntu have an fstab tool?02:58
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linux_mafiaAmaranth, hmmm, apps, places, system, i think i preffered the setup before02:58
linux_mafiapunkrockguy318, no java through multiverse, and nano, gedit, vi for fstab03:00
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punkrockguy318linux_mafia, okay03:01
punkrockguy318i'm really pleased with ubuntu03:01
punkrockguy318it doesn't take the power away... like overwriting conf files all the time like YaST03:02
farruinnIs there a way to run the automatic X configuration that runs during the installation?  My X is borked and I've dpkg-reconfigured xserver-xfree86 at least three times to no avail.03:02
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farruinnno errors in the log either (less XFree86.0.log | grep EE gives nothing)03:04
punkrockguy318how can I add a menu entry globally? (for all users)?03:04
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Plukhi punkrockguy31803:17
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DeepSpaceAnthey guys, has the ATI FGLRX drives been modified to actually work well yet?03:26
DeepSpaceAntand work for x300 cards properly (like me 9700 pro)03:26
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punkrockguy318how can I install the new firefox?03:31
tuppaapt-get install mozilla-firefox? :)03:33
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lekpunkrock, can add "deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu warty-backports main universe" to sources.list (sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list) in terminal03:34
lekthen sudo apt-get update03:34
leksudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox03:34
lekwould work.03:34
punkrockguy318what's that?03:34
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NixerXHEy all.03:35
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lekjust do what i said03:37
punkrockguy318what's warty-backports03:37
punkrockguy318yeah i know, but I'm just wondering what it is03:37
lekbackports from hoary that are safe on warty with its on repository03:37
punkrockguy318awesome :)03:37
lekonly a few main programs03:38
punkrockguy318thanks a lot!03:38
lekxchat, firefox, etc03:38
lekno problem03:38
DeepSpaceAntman I wish the  dev team could work on the fglrx driver03:38
khadAnyone want to field a Fedora dual-boot question?03:38
DeepSpaceAntonly reason I cant really use ubuntu03:38
|QuaD|khad: i can try03:38
khad|Quad|: I installed Fedora. No problem. THen I installed Ubuntu in leftover space. How do I access my Fedora installation since GRUB didn't autodetect it?03:39
NixerXWhat packages do i need to play mp3's?03:39
leknixerx, depends on the program you use to play, some come with decoders03:39
lekxmms, etc03:39
DeepSpaceAntkhad do u know what partitions fedora is on03:39
khad|QuaD|: Um. Let me check03:40
DeepSpaceAntkhad like hd1 etc..03:40
punkrockguy318lek, that's awesome!! the only packages I actually cared about (gaim, synaptic, firefox, xchat) are getting upgraded :) an no stupid libraries and getting upgraded to bork everything03:40
punkrockguy318and I can use my old configs from arch03:40
Gmailwoooooow got my self +q in #gentoo03:40
Gmailparty in my new house03:40
lekpunkrockguy318, yep.03:40
punkrockguy318i have an apt-get question03:41
DeepSpaceAntkhad edit the /boot/grub/grub.conf or something like that file and add in another line for fedora pointing to the right partition03:41
lekwhat is it?03:41
|QuaD|khad: also what does your grub file look like03:41
natexkhad, actually edit /boot/grub/menu.1st03:41
punkrockguy318let's say we have repo A and repo B.  Repo A has package X version 1.  Repo B has package X version 2... which one will be installed when I apt-get install X?03:41
DeepSpaceAntnatex: opps ty, that's what I ment im not in ubuntu rite now03:42
khadI am not sure because FC2 uses weird LVM stuff03:42
natexDeepSpaceAnt, np03:42
|QuaD|punkrockguy318: i believe version 2 (unless you modify pinning)03:42
khadI don't quit get it03:42
lekpunk, latest version03:42
punkrockguy318lek, okay03:42
khad   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:42
khad/dev/hdb1               1          13      104391   83  Linux03:42
khad/dev/hdb2              14        1837    14651280   83  Linux03:42
khad/dev/hdb3   *        1838        4803    23824395   83  Linux03:42
khad/dev/hdb4            4804        4865      498015    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)03:42
khad/dev/hdb5            4804        4865      497983+  82  Linux swap03:42
|QuaD|khad: NOOOO03:42
khadIt is somewhere in there03:42
punkrockguy318another question:  is this any burning software available besides nautius (without installing kde)?03:43
lekif there happens to be a conflict, you could comment on a repos for temp03:43
lekpunkrock, k3b is honestly the best, requires the kde stuff though.03:43
DeepSpaceAntpunkrockguy318 u could alwys install k3b..03:43
natexpunkrockguy318, try http://biddell.co.uk/gnomebaker.php03:43
|QuaD|khad: where was redhad installed to?03:43
punkrockguy318natex are there debs available?03:44
khadI installed it on the whole drive (plus a swap) and then resized the partition with Ubuntu's installer03:44
natexpunkrockguy318, hold on03:44
khadI think they share the swap partition03:44
|QuaD|khad: ?03:44
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khadQuite frankly I don't know why W95 is listed on the drive03:45
|QuaD|do u have a fat partition?03:45
khadI never put one on that drive.03:45
fastcan i use k3b with ubuntu?03:45
khadI have NTFS and FAT32 on hda03:45
lekfast, yes03:45
RuffianSoldierfast - I did03:45
punkrockguy318thanks a lot guys... you rock :)03:45
lekno problem03:46
RuffianSoldierk3b = only good K App03:46
lekagreeing with ruffian here03:46
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lekoh and kbounce :)03:46
gnoobhey, how do i get root permissions in ubuntu?03:46
fasthmm... must say i quite like kde03:46
khadIt looks like the sawp is just listed as being inside of the extended partition. Defaults to calling it W95?03:46
lekgnoob, use sudo03:46
fastjust installed ubuntu out of curiosit03:46
gnooblek; ok03:46
fasti like it03:47
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lekfast, who doesn't? :)03:47
fastbut feel a bit restricted03:47
lekfast, how so?03:47
fastby synaptic03:47
gnooblek; su tells me i need a password. I don't have the password.03:47
khadThe only boot partition listed is hdb3, I think that is Ubuntu?03:47
lekgnoob, sudo -s03:47
lekthen use default password your set for your user03:47
lekyou set*03:48
fastdo u guys generally use synaptic?03:48
lekfast, no03:48
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punkrockguy318ah :-D new xchat firefox and gaim :-D i'm happy03:48
gnooblek; so now i could set my password with no problems right?03:48
fastok say u want to install firefox 1.0... what do you do? download the source?03:48
lekgnoob, password for?03:48
fasti am used to gentoo... just emerge -u...03:48
gnooblek; for root03:48
lekgnoob, why do you want a root account?03:49
lekyou don't need one03:49
punkrockguy318fast, lek will give you a line to add your your sources.list03:49
lekand it's not safe03:49
natexgnoob, ubuntu doesn't use su it uses sudo. If you really need a root account you can 'sudo passwd root'03:49
gnooblek; i don't know, it on other linux distros.03:49
natexgnoob, but sudo is "supposed" to be secure03:50
khadHm.. I guess I'll find help somewhere else...?03:50
fastlek, can i have line for sources list?03:50
lekline for?03:50
punkrockguy318why is a root account insecure?03:50
punkrockguy318lek, for the backports03:50
gnoobnatex; cool.  Is that question asked a lot?03:50
natexnot sure :)03:50
DeepSpaceAntnatex - last time I checked my friend was able to do "su -" "pasword" and it workd..dunno why03:51
gnoobsudo -s workd03:51
lekit is "deb http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu warty-backports main universe"03:51
gnoobto get me a # prompt03:51
natexkhad, you need to tell us which partition is Redhat03:51
khadI'm trying to figure it out because FC3 (maybe earlier versions as well) use some weird LVM stuff so it's not a simple matter of a single partition.03:52
punkrockguy318how is a root account insecure?03:52
lekhow is it not?03:52
natexkhad, which is Ubuntu then? And is there only two linux OS on this box?03:52
khadIt looked as though there was a small boot partition that pointed to the actual partition. Am I crazy?03:53
lekpunkrock, you must be a windows native kind of guy03:53
khadI have two hard drives. I am ignoring hda for the purpose of this discussion because it is only NTFS and FAT32 for Windows stuff03:53
natexkhad, ok good03:53
khadOn my hdb there is FC3 and Ubuntu only03:53
RuffianSoldierFC3 killed my Ubuntu box!03:54
natexkhad, and you are in ubuntu now?03:54
lekfc3 kills anything that lives03:54
|QuaD|why would you want fc3 and ubuntu?03:54
punkrockguy318okay.. i installed the "qc-usb-source" package... how do I compile and install it?03:54
khadnatex:  Yes, I cannot access my FC3 installation becuase I am stupid and Ubuntu/GRUB did not autodetect it.03:54
natexkhad, ok do a 'df' in a console for me.03:55
punkrockguy318hmm ubuntu detected my other linux partition03:55
khadI want to test KDE and XFCE and FC3 seems to better support them03:55
lekpunkrock, ./ configure && make && sudo make install03:55
punkrockguy318lek, where is it installed to?03:55
khad(i.e.: I can just click a checkbox when I install FC3 to also get KDE and XFCE)03:55
lekyou'll see when it installs03:55
Agrajag/usr/local usually03:55
fastlek, this backports thing is what exactly? and why isn't it there by default?03:56
natexkhad, "df" in a console will tell us which is the Ubuntu partition03:56
punkrockguy318lek, i mean, where is the source installed to?  i got the ubuntu package03:56
lekfast, a friend of mine made it, it's not really known by many03:56
khadFedora is weird. I would assume just one partition for Fedora and then Ubuntu gets its own and they can share swap partition?03:56
fastlek, so it will always have more up2date software on it?03:57
khadFilesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on03:57
khad/dev/hdb3             23450068   3547732  18711120  16% /03:57
khadtmpfs                   128172         0    128172   0% /dev/shm03:57
khad/dev/hda5            109654312  65804156  43850156  61% /mnt/backup03:57
punkrockguy318how do I find out what files are installed by a particular package/03:57
lekfast, not always, whenever he puts it up03:57
|QuaD|khad: NO PASTING!!!!03:57
lekfast, pretty up to date for now though03:57
khad|QuaD|, where is the rulebook?03:57
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|QuaD|khad: its irc etiquitte03:57
lekbe back in a second03:57
trans_erri have an A7N266-wm motherboard and I just replaced the integrated video card with a GeForce 5700... However, now I get random freezes when using any form of AGP (rather it be agpgart or nvagp)... These freezes are not temp related as it runs fine with no agp support, the free driver also works with out any freezes...03:58
khadApologies for the bad etiquette, but it is merely four lines03:58
|QuaD|khad: doesn't matter03:58
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khad|Quad|, How am I to know this?03:58
natexnetcops will catch you03:58
khadUh-oh! I hear sirens on my speakers03:59
khadSeriously, though, is there something I should read before chatting in here?03:59
gnoobis this the officia ubunto help channel?03:59
tuppawatch out for gestapos with the canonical logo as the armpatch03:59
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neoxedlease Remember Me.mp3 at 10132.59 KB/s04:00
khadIs there an AOL Terms of Service? I mean.. Ubuntu IRC terms of service?04:00
trans_erranyone at all?04:00
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fastman evolution has improved a lot since i last used it!04:01
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infieAnyone know of a nice flowchart program?04:01
fasti suppose that is novells doing? many new releases?04:01
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natextrans_err, sounds like more of a hardware question. not really ubuntu related04:02
|QuaD|infie: i like 2 programs (depending what you need)04:02
|QuaD|first dia04:02
tiagohi there, I reinstall my system and just maked backup of /var/cache/apt, how can I back this previus packages in my new installation?04:02
|QuaD|infie: looking for the name of the second, this is a program i like better, hold up04:03
rushibhaitiago: dpkg?04:03
natexkhad, hdb1 is probably the FC boot partition04:03
tiagorushibhai, humm, I try04:03
infieKivio perhaps?04:03
natexinfie, I'll pipe in while he's looking, openoffice-draw works pretty good04:03
infieok thanks04:04
|QuaD|infie: nope04:04
infieI'm grabbing dia04:04
infieand I'll see which I like better04:04
trans_errnatex, well I use ubuntu- so i thought there might be some folks who know... i really hope this room does not turn into another #debian elitist chat04:04
|QuaD|infie: its a java prog... dia is really nice for flowcharts though04:04
infiewell thanks04:04
|QuaD|trans_err = troll?04:04
infieI just hope it handles larger flowcharts04:04
tiagorushibhai, just dpkg install package.deb, right?04:04
infiein a nice way04:04
natextrans_err, well if you'd like to get a good answer, why not ask where you are likely to get one?04:04
|QuaD|infie: dia will, this other program probably not04:05
natextrans_err, if it were me I'd ask in a hardware forum, that's all04:05
rushibhaitiago: you can do something like dpkg --install --recursive directory04:05
rushibhaiwhere directory contains your packages.04:06
|QuaD|infie: its called freemind, more of a mindmap then a flowchart, but it is a lot cooler (imho), not on the repos though)04:06
rushibhaicheck out the man page.04:06
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zenwhenHey you all are welcome in #ubuntuforums for light hearted linux chat and stupidity. :)04:07
infiefreemind- thanks04:07
infieI'll look it up04:07
lekgo fix your computers zenwhen04:07
trans_err|QuaD|, not quite04:07
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tuppano more pissing around with thinkpad-source to get dynamic cpu speed to work04:09
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fasti got the latest versions now!!!04:12
fastis kde available for ubuntu?04:14
Agrajagyou need ot use the universe repository04:14
natexcareful fast, you are going to break your ubuntu ;)04:14
Agrajaginstructions to do that are in the file /etc/apt/sources.list04:14
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|QuaD|fast: can i reccomend against kde?04:15
|QuaD|fast i love kde.... i don't use it with ubuntu hough04:15
fasthmm i may stay clear04:15
RAK2Is there a problem with KDE under ubuntu, it seems to run fine here, anything I should know?04:16
neoxedany one know where i can get some cool gnome skins?04:16
natexhehe...gnome skins04:16
Agrajaggnome themes04:16
AgrajagI tihnk the package you want is gnome-themes-extras04:16
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neoxedok thanks04:17
AgrajagI highly recommend Ximian Industrial.04:17
|QuaD|ximian industrial?04:17
tomchukneoxed: gnome-look.org and art.gnome.org are good too04:17
KeeGoldHi! Anybody care to help me with upgrading discover?04:18
|QuaD|KeeGold: what do you mean04:18
s0ckscan we run dual procs?04:19
KeeGoldubuntu seems to be using discover1 which never works from the command line.04:19
KeeGoldI would like to upgrade to v204:19
tomchuks0cks: yes04:19
KeeGoldBut ubuntu-base depends on discover104:19
khadneoxed: There are good things at http://librsvg.sourceforge.net/theme.php04:19
neoxedim loaded now :)04:20
Agrajag|QuaD|: industrial is basically the same as Human, only blue instead of brown, and rounded04:21
AgrajagHuman was based on Industrial04:21
zenwhenI like the human window boarder.04:22
zenwhenI use it with the industrial GTK engine04:22
zenwhenI dont like rounded crap.04:22
Agrajagwell, that's what the human theme uses anyway04:22
zenwhenNot the one I have04:23
Agrajagthe windows borders are very similar too04:23
Agrajago rly04:23
Agrajaglet me check on that, I could have sworn...04:23
zenwhenhuman is square for me04:23
Agrajaglooks the exact same to me04:23
Agrajagthe windows you mean?04:23
Agrajagor the buttons?04:23
zenwhenthe windows04:24
natexI wish it was rounded and stipple titlebar04:24
Agrajagwell that's metacity, not the GTK engine04:24
Agrajagthey both use the same GTK engine04:24
zenwhenI am going to curse you in #ubuntuforums now04:24
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wasabiTrying to get a SiS 82C204 to work right. Ubuntu's GDM won't start by default.04:30
wasabiDetects everything perfectly though, just doesn't load04:30
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tomchukwasabi: grep EE /var/log/XFree86.0.log04:33
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wasabi(EE) No devices detected.04:34
wasabitomchuk, which is odd because right above it it talks about the SiS card being hte primary device. ;004:34
wasabi(II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:0c:004:34
wasabi(--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device04:34
wasabi(EE) No devices detected.04:34
DigiKillcurious if anyone's runnin ubuntu on PPC cpus in here?04:34
tomchukwasabi: weird, what driver is listed in /etc/X11/XF86Config?04:34
|QuaD|is there a way to turn off auto redirect in firefox?04:35
wasabiIt detects it fine. Loads the module. Prints out the info.04:35
tomchukwasabi: try vesa to see if it'll start04:35
wasabiAnd then says no device.04:35
farruinnDigiKill: I am04:35
wasabivesa worked. =(04:35
wasabiwhich is fine. Just sucks.04:35
DigiKillcool farruinn04:35
farruinnDigiKill: works rather well04:35
DigiKilldid it pick up hardware pretty well?04:36
tomchukwasabi: hmm, you might try installing a dri snapshot from dri.sf.net04:36
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farruinnDigiKill: well the first time it did... I'm reinstalling right now and it's not going as well as it did the first time04:36
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DigiKillwhat kind of issues?04:37
tomchukDigiKill: what graphics card?04:37
DigiKillati and an geforce204:37
farruinnDigiKill: for some reason openoffice.org didn't install correctly - I ended up with broken packages, but I'm running apt-get install ubuntu-desktop now to fix it all04:38
bpd1069<-- went through the ATI hell04:38
farruinnand it didn't detect my X settings like it did last time.04:38
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DigiKillits an old ATI card.....fairly well supported on other linux ive used...04:39
DigiKilljust ive never used it w. Mac hardware04:39
tomchukDigiKill: should be fine, you'll have to do some reading on configuring Xinerama04:40
DigiKillbpd1069: what ati card you using?04:41
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bpd1069discount bin : PCI 93200SE 128mb04:41
bpd1069oops 9200SE04:41
billytwowillynvidia=good on linux04:41
bpd1069my budget is configured for poo04:41
tomchukati = good on linux with ope source driver04:42
billytwowillywell, on the windows side ati is currently destroying nvidia in the highend and medium end.04:42
DigiKillahh...yeah...last good ati card for linux i knew was around the Ati radeon 7k...04:42
tomchukwell, decent on linux04:42
DigiKillat least that ive used04:42
bpd1069well PCI ati cards are horrible.. low memory bandwidth... thats all I can say, can't get over 250fps with glxgears  :(04:43
DigiKillyeah...this is a pci ATI card in here04:43
DigiKillanyone have issues w. SCSI Cards at all?04:43
tomchukit'll work fine, just don't expect miracles regarding 3D04:43
bpd1069word of advice...  I commented out the dbe module for XF and it improved performance 2 fold...04:44
=== farruinn has X again - yay!
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farruinnah, fresh installation04:46
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DigiKillwhat else other than Gnome is default installed for a Window Manager?04:47
DigiKillicewm i'd guess04:47
farruinnnothing =)04:47
farruinnit's only one cd though04:47
farruinnyou can install anything (but kde) easily using apt04:48
billytwowillywoot. gnome menus update installing now.04:48
DigiKillive moved away from kde...04:48
farruinnit's all available on the repositories, but by default just gnome04:48
billytwowillyDoes this mean we're back to good menus?04:48
DigiKilli like xfce at the moment04:48
farruinnheh, I was just going to ask you that =)04:48
farruinnDigiKill: yeah, just install it with apt once you're in04:49
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DigiKillwell its the only window manager i can really use since my OSX install's fubar'd04:49
DigiKillactually i have xfce running w. Fluxbox as the actual 'window manager'04:49
DigiKillon top of the OSX Gui..<quartz-wm04:50
DigiKillits rather interesting having 3 toolbars04:50
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bpd1069since my hardware is a bit dated sticking with wmaker for now...04:51
farruinnI prefer fluxbox or afterstep actually over wmaker04:51
DigiKillbpd1069: i'd guess you are on pc architecture04:51
farruinnbpd1069: how old is your machine?04:52
bpd1069was my first wmanager from waaaaaaay back.. so i have a soft spot for it..04:52
DigiKilli really like the *box's04:52
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bpd1069yes...  wish i had an mac to play with04:52
DigiKillenlightenment is fun too...04:52
DigiKilla bit unstable....04:52
bpd1069farruinn : celeron 466...04:52
DigiKillbut isnt that the point ;)04:52
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DigiKillbpd1069: if you wanna pick up a cheap mac check out Retrobox.com04:53
DigiKillif you are in the US04:53
DigiKillthey have all sorts of cheap stuff there04:53
DigiKillquad sparc cpu servers for like 300$04:53
DigiKillcrazy stuff...04:53
bpd1069DigiKill thanks for the info.. will keep my eye open... I have an old PowerComputing box somewhere in my closet...  hehe  maybe I should revive it04:53
DigiKillput debian on it for ppc ;)04:54
alakdanhello, im trying to install zopex3-sandbox, it seems there are broken dependencies, since it looks for zope3-lib when the package is zopex3-lib , and the zopex3-lib suggests installing zope3-sandbox04:54
DigiKillsince i know that'll run on even the oldest of boxes04:54
alakdanhow do I get around this?04:54
DigiKilli have a buddy runnin it on a 99mhz box04:54
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bpd1069DigiKill damn good Idea... can use it as a headless server for DNS/www/etc..04:54
DigiKillgood idea04:55
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DigiKillor else put a nice Router Distro on there...04:55
DigiKilldevil linux or ipcop04:55
bpd1069DigiKill : just remembered, its in the trunk of my car.. think I'll see if it still powers up...04:55
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farruinnhey, it's a ppc party!04:57
farruinnpugio, how goes it?04:57
DigiKilli love my ppc's04:57
DigiKilltho its hard to not like Dual CPUs04:57
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=== billytwowilly wants dual core processors
DigiKillsame here billytwowilly04:58
DigiKillthose loook like FUN04:58
billytwowillyhow about dual cpu dual core processors?04:58
billytwowillyBOO YAH!04:58
DigiKillor a nice quad cpu setup ;)04:59
billytwowillyHeh. same shizizzle, different pizzizzle;)04:59
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|QuaD|i have a somewhat off topic question... i have a password, and it enrypted... how can i figure out the encryption scheme?05:00
unpersonAnyone willing to field a question about sed?05:00
K-otiKis there a way in debian to copy a DVD onto your hd? or an iso image of an OS?05:00
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DigiKillyes K-otiK05:00
tomchukunperson: I can try05:00
DigiKillthere is05:00
geppyAre there any rippers that let you make use of more of the CDDB than grip does?05:00
K-otiKwhat prog do i use Digikill?05:00
DigiKillwait...my bad05:01
billytwowilly|QuaD|, http://www.phrack.org/05:01
DigiKilli read that wrong05:01
DigiKillwas thinkin you wanted ot install debian from hdd05:01
DigiKillmy bad..05:01
|QuaD|billytwowilly: thanks05:01
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|QuaD|billytwowilly: do you knwo where on that to look?05:01
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geppyK-otiK: transcode?05:01
K-otiKbah, so you wouldnt' know? im interested in putting OS's for download on my ftp server anyone know how to copy ISO's to your hd?05:01
RuffianSoldierOSOO REFRRESHING05:01
geppyK-otiK: oh05:01
K-otiKill google it05:02
geppyK-otiK: dd if=/dev/hdx of=changeme.iso05:02
billytwowilly|QuaD|, no idea, that's just all sorts of hacking goodness05:02
billytwowillysearch google, I bet there is a really good brute force password breaker that will tell you.05:02
K-otiKhackers are the devil05:02
bpd1069omg this thing is ancient...05:02
unpersonI want to use sed to edit a file and replace it with the edited version.  I tried sed -e [script]  file > file, but the file ends up blank.  How do I do this correctly?05:03
DigiKillhaha bpd106905:03
K-otiKwhats the password from?05:03
bpd1069PowerCenter 132...  I think it has an XLR8R in it though at 233 or so05:03
unpersonClearly I could do sed -e [script]  file > temp; mv temp file.  Is that the best choice?05:03
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K-otiKpm me i might be able to help05:03
pridkettdoes openoffice ship with the PyUno (python scripting module)?  It doesn't seem like it does, even though OO.o says that its part of the default install05:04
DigiKillmac clone i'd guess?05:04
geppypridkett:  The Ubuntu install is _not_ the default install.05:04
bpd1069DigiKill : yes...  my MacII is officially dead  : )05:04
leka dead mac is a good mac05:05
regeyaha.  ha.  ha.05:05
pridkettgeppy: I'm aware of that.  I'm wondering if anyone knows where I could find pyUno then.05:05
regeyalek: *everything* sucks.05:05
geppypridkett:  What's the package name?05:05
lekregeya, clearly05:06
geppypridkett: You could try apt-cache searching for oo.o packages.05:06
pridkettgeppy: I'm not sure of the package name, I've been doing some searches and I can't seem to find that intuitively makes sense for it05:06
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geppypridkett:  I don't know what to say.  Google?05:07
pridkettyeah, google let me down.  That's why I figued I'd try the lazyweb.05:07
merovigiamhello ! :D05:07
bpd1069gonna steal this monitor and see if it actaully posts05:07
DigiKillim just hopin Ubuntu will like my dual monitors...05:08
merovigiamthe ubuntu have xorg ?05:08
lekmeroigiam, hoary does05:08
merovigiammy inglish is very bad :(05:09
tomchukis anyone's English good on IRC???05:09
billytwowillyme speaky goood engrish05:09
Agrajagtomchuk: yes, of course.05:09
regeyaoh dear god.05:10
lekmother of god05:10
billytwowillyI also butcher french and german;)05:10
merovigiamthe ubuntu have xfree86  4.3 default !?05:10
Rene_Sand I like to gas people who seem to thinks its ok to butcher Germans05:10
Agrajagmerovigiam: yes05:11
lekwhats wrong with butchering germans05:11
merovigiamhumm, good :)05:11
Agrajagmerovigiam: the next release will use xorg05:11
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billytwowillylek, depends when you decide to do it...05:11
billytwowillylek, ie now would be bad, 1942, not so much.05:11
DigiKilldont butcher the germans.....they use linux05:12
billytwowillyThat's true. They are also have a remarkably low level of retards in their population... I wonder why that could be...05:12
Rene_SWell I got a easy bake oven for my first birthday, It sat 1005:12
billytwowilly***cough** Hitler **cough**05:13
tuppaanyone here using hoary?05:13
lekof course tuppa05:13
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Rene_Sany how lets discuss something more interesting, like Aliens and why the Americans are lying to protect them05:14
billytwowillyit's nice05:14
leki'm a alien05:14
tuppalek:  found the main GNOME menu is, well, back as how GNOME originally was?05:14
billytwowillybecause americans are dumb and can't handle the truth. It would conflict too much with their religion.05:14
merovigiamUbuntu Linux 4.10 --> server graphics Xorg Correct ?05:14
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geppybillytwowilly:  Oh, right... the American Religion.05:14
Rene_SOk Capitalism and War are not really religions.05:15
billytwowillygeppy, evangelical christians05:15
geppybillytwowilly:  Not all Americans are evangelical christians.05:15
Agrajagmerovigiam: no05:15
billytwowillygeppy, I realize that. it's called over generalizations;)05:16
Agrajag4.10 is Warty, the current version.05:16
AgrajagWarty uses Xfree8605:16
natexbillytwowilly, only the ones in the Red States05:16
billytwowillyaka jesusland05:16
geppynatex:  hahaha05:16
regeyathere's very little difference between X.Org and Xfree86 yet; most the changes in the former are code cleanup.  I wouldn't worry about it.05:16
regeyaand I'm in a blue state and surrounded with evangelical christians.05:16
regeyaor at least they think they're christians.05:17
AgrajagI dunno, I kind of got used to compose and damage for the month or so I used xorg in gentoo05:17
Agrajagonly a few months till hoary though05:17
regeyayou got that to work in gentoo, eh?05:17
Agrajagyeah, worked great05:17
regeyahell, I had trouble getting xkb working in gentoo. ;-D05:17
geppyanyone know of any _good_ rippers out there that aren't grip, and aren't cli?05:17
mbp__geppy: abcde05:17
mbp__it's great05:17
regeyawhat's wrong with grip, eh?  just curious...05:17
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regeyaabcde is great05:18
AgrajagI didn't bother using xcompmgr for any shadows effects though, they caused too much crap, I just used it to enable damage05:18
mbp__i run it under screen, so i can log out05:18
DigiKillive heard that works nice05:18
geppymbp__:  _not cli_?05:18
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mbp__it's barely cli, you don't need to specify anything05:18
geppyregeya:  Grip doesn't let you use any other CDDB info05:18
regeyawhat other cddb info?05:19
regeyait's hard to recommend a tool when we don't know what you're looking for :-D05:19
kirtOk, i just updated my system in hoary and my menus are back (thank you), but now in my Places menu I have entries for folders that don't exist.. I assume these came from the filechooser's favourites.. does anyone know how to clear it?05:19
regeyaand if it's possible that you just missed a feature in grip, and I know about it, I could recommend doing that.  *shrug*05:19
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bpd1069hmmm... well that didn't work...05:20
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bpd1069is there anyway to make a ubuntu install disk (floppy) and telnet into that thing to install? (yes I know just grasping at straws05:21
bborkkAnyone have any experience using the Casio Exilim line of digital cameras with Ubuntu?  Is the cradle necessary, or can everything be done using only a USB cable?05:21
regeyageppy: um, that's the proposed ogg vorbis comment spec.  what's that got to do with cddb?05:21
wasabiWhat's a linux command that is equivilent to netstat on FBSD? Netstat -aw1 specifically. It prints the number of packets and bytes that pass the network interfaces once a second.05:21
bpd1069wasabi  : i know the -c makes the updating continuous /per sec05:22
geppyregeya:  Eh, sorry;  I should've linked to the CDDB pages.  But there are CDDB counterparts for all of those fields, and I'd like to utilize all of them.05:22
regeyageppy: you have a client that displays an isrc number?05:23
mbp__wasabi: maybe 'watch ifconfig'? not an exact match.05:24
geppyregeya:  No, but I'm looking into getting all of the information in _now_ so that I don't have to change anything once I've ripped my CD collection.05:24
regeyadoes freedb really give isrc, version, etc. numbers?  I feel lucky if tracks have the correct trackname, artist, track number, and genre.05:24
geppyregeya:  I've already ripped it once in ogg, and now, I'm going back for flac.05:24
geppyregeya:  Hmm... I'd kind of ignored the "ISRC" and "VERSION" ones;  I'05:25
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geppylooking for all the other ones, though,  "Location" probably won't see much use.05:26
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bpd1069anyone know a way to scan my lan for IP addresses?  just hooked up a headless PPC and plugged a network cable into a hub...05:26
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GotD0tbpd1069: maybe you should put its head back on ;-)05:28
DigiKillbpd1069: did you setup a OS on it already?05:28
RuffianSoldierwhats teh ubuntu after hoary going to be called?05:28
geppyregeya:  Any ideas?05:28
RuffianSoldierdumbass dolphin?05:28
billytwowillyit's on the website.05:28
bpd1069GotD0t : can't get the video to work.. (mac clone from truck!)05:28
GotD0thave you ever tried typing two words at once05:29
GotD0tits fun05:29
GotD0tand you get something like that05:29
bpd1069DigiKill : it used to have OS 9 on it.. but not sure if it still works05:29
billytwowillygrumpy groundhog05:29
GotD0tyou're kidding05:29
GotD0tthats horrible05:29
DigiKillbpd1069: couldnt you just nmap your lan addy spectrum?05:30
billytwowillyscroll down to releases.05:30
RuffianSoldierbillytwowilly - really?05:30
bpd1069DigiKill : thanks.. those are the magic words I was looking for05:30
GotD0ti think ill have to forego grumpy groundhog cuz the name sucks05:30
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geppyregeya: Any suggestions?05:31
bpd1069sonic the hedgehog?  ya know there is a gene named that...05:31
zenwhenhey RuffianSoldier05:32
RuffianSoldierhi zenwhen05:32
zenwhenwant to idle in #ubuntuforums and pimp beatrix?05:32
RuffianSoldierhell ya05:33
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farruinnyay, ubhuti's back!05:33
zenwhencome on in :P05:33
billytwowillyheh. They should have called it ubhuti05:34
billytwowillythat would have been awesome.05:34
regeyaubhuti: no, regeya is a hopeless raving idiot.05:34
ubhutiregeya: okay05:34
regeyawe've gotten that out of the way...05:35
bpd1069nmap has an obscene number of options...  any decent GUI front ends for this monster?05:35
regeyaubhuti, regeya?05:35
ubhutiregeya: Wish i knew05:35
bpd1069billytwowilly thanks05:35
bpd1069er.. ok that too!05:35
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khadI still can't figure out how to boot into my FC3 installation05:36
khadMaybe I should find an FC3 channel05:36
DigiKillwasabi: i had a friend try netstat -aw1  on Slackware....it worked fine for him on there05:36
wasabinetstat: invalid option -- 105:37
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DigiKillcould always check your manpages on netstat05:38
wasabidid. i don't see anything similar05:38
DigiKilli cant check...i have bsd based netstat05:38
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GotD0ti need an app that will be able to read encrypted DVD's and save a decrypted image file on the hard disk05:40
GotD0tubhuti: restrictedformats05:40
ubhutiSince there are some legal restrictions on what Ubuntu can freely release, some software my need to be aquired elsewhere.  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats to find out how you can get this non-free software.05:40
GotD0tubhuti: ubhuti05:41
ubhutiHello, I'm Ubhuti, a simple blootbot. My name is Zulu for "brother".05:41
farruinnsomethings' fucked up with the mysql db05:41
farruinnI can't add anything05:41
farruinngo ahead and msg ubhuti05:41
farruinntry to teach it something05:41
GotD0tubhuti: GotD0t is the best05:42
ubhutiokay, GotD0t05:42
ubhutiBugger all, I dunno, GotD0t05:42
GotD0tubhuti: gotd0t05:42
ubhutiI haven't a clue, GotD0t05:42
GotD0tubhuti: GotD0t05:42
ubhutiI don't know, GotD0t05:42
zenwhenoh wow a bot05:42
farruinnGotD0t: you should /msg him to keep the noise down in here05:43
zenwhenwhose bot is it?05:43
RuffianSoldierI like bots05:43
farruinnzenwhen: mine05:43
zenwhenoh cool05:43
farruinnbut I just had to reinstall ubuntu (x was borked) and I don't think I backed up the mysql db correctly05:44
zenwhencan he join #ubuntuforums too? :D05:44
farruinnoh sure05:44
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farruinndidn't know about that channel05:44
zenwhenIm getting the word out05:44
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GotD0tfarruinn: you're right, his db is borked05:47
farruinnyeah, I think it's a permissions thing05:47
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farruinnI'm looking into it05:47
farruinndon't say borked though - I don't think it's that bad!05:47
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DigiKillGotD0t: DVD Ripping : http://www.bunkus.org/dvdripping4linux/05:49
DigiKillcheck that out05:49
GotD0tfarruinn: well it doesnt work as of know, therefore db = borked05:49
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GotD0tthankd DigiKill05:49
DigiKillits lookin complicated...05:49
DigiKillmplayer and a bunch of other stuff needed05:49
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GotD0tall i need is the dvd iso unencrypted... i have other uses for the iso05:50
wasabiWhat's that program I run to set the hostname and such?05:52
Gmaili need to see if i am still connected05:53
crimsunyou are05:53
Gmailwell there is no pppd running05:53
Gmailvery strange05:53
alakdanwasabi: ifconfig will list the number of tx rx packets05:54
Gmailand i can't ping anything05:54
wasabialakdan, duh.05:54
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wasabialakdan, i asked my question the way I did for a reason.05:54
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Gmailwell ifconfig show its there05:54
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DigiKillwasabi: what exactly are you lookin for ?  printout to printer? or just updated all the time?06:05
wasabiexactly what netstat -aw1 does. It prints out the bytecount once a second since the last printout.06:05
GotD0tdoes anybody know off an app that will make a dvd iso from a properly structured directory?06:08
DigiKillwasabi: netstat -ac06:08
Rene_SConnection reset by peer ?  Who's that peer guy and why is he reseting connections ?06:08
GotD0tRene_S: good question06:09
geppyGotD0t:  ISO is a standard;  you don't need to make a "dvd iso"06:09
wasabiDigiKill, that isn't anything near it.06:09
geppyGotD0t: mkisofs06:09
crimsunwasabi: -aw1 doesn't even work here06:09
GotD0tgeppy: hmm, ok06:09
wasabiI KNOW06:09
wasabiis anybodyr eading my question? heh.06:09
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DigiKillim watching netstat -aw1 right now06:10
crimsunwasabi: why not use watch(1) and `netstat -a --statistics'?06:10
DigiKilli'd use bmon for that instead06:10
wasabicrimsun, because that command is Really Long06:10
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wasabiand doesn't show a packet count06:11
crimsunthen use -n06:11
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farruinnyay, ubhuti's well again06:16
DigiKillwasabi: bmon shows packets updated every second  on both rx/tx sides06:17
DigiKillonly thing i can think of w.out havin a linux box in front of me06:17
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DigiKillthe netstat -aw1 is nice tho.06:17
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GotD0tubhuti: gotd0t06:18
ubhuti[gotd0t]  the coolest06:18
davidehello, i got this problem with eth1. for some reason linux started seeing my eht1 as eth2. now my wireless connection doesn't work. if i start cardmgr it just makes me wait forever. does anybody knows what i can do? i tried to go in recovery mode but if i use cardmgr there it tells me that i have no pcmcia entry in /proc/devices.06:18
DigiKillno clue davide : ive yet to toy w. Linux and WiFi06:21
farruinndavide, you might take a look at the ubuntu-users mailing list archive06:21
farruinnthere was a thread on wireless+ubuntu not long ago06:21
farruinnI didn't follow it though :/06:21
wasabii'm having trouble with postfix. I am using the mail command to send me mail.06:21
wasabiBut it is trying to send to hostname.domainname.domainname.06:22
wasabiAnd saying bad delivery06:22
omalleydavide: what does iwconfig tell you?06:22
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Triple5Anyone here using a slow pc06:23
|QuaD|Triple5: me06:23
Triple5|QuaD|, wat u running06:23
davideiwconfig sees my card as eht2 but the light on the card goes up and down06:23
|QuaD|p 2.6Ghz06:23
Triple5that aint slow06:23
Triple5Something like this instead06:23
Triple5Gateway Desktop Flex Case06:24
Triple5Celeron 635mhz 256mb sdram 20gb hd western digital 5400rpmDriver: i810 (intel)06:24
Triple5Card: 82810E CD-133 CGC (Chipset Graphics Controller)06:24
|QuaD|i think mine is slow, i want a new06:24
|QuaD|wow that is slow06:24
Triple5yes it is06:24
Triple5its so slow Ubuntu can't run there06:25
Triple5but then Progeny Debian flies06:25
wasabiIm using a 400mhz and it's fine.06:25
Triple5Yea Ubuntu runs too slow there06:25
Triple5I dont know why06:25
wasabigraphics problem?06:25
Triple5BeatrIX (alternative of Ubuntu) its great06:25
Triple5wasabi, yup06:25
wasabiswitch to vesa and see if it changes.06:25
Triple5should try06:25
Triple5but probably its already in Vesa?06:26
wasabino clue.06:26
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omalleydavide: on my old fedora 2 box, i had to reload yenta-socket module06:27
tritiumHmm...my panel is completely empty.06:27
Triple5wasabi, you running hoary or warty06:27
tritiumIs there a current bug affecting the panel that makes the menus/applets/etc disapper?06:27
davideomalley: how would i do?06:28
crimsuntritium: hoary?06:28
tritiumcrimsun, yes.06:28
crimsuntritium: the affected packages were updated today06:28
omalleydavide: do a lsmod, see if yenta_socket shows up06:28
wasabiTriple5, warty06:28
Triple5check to see if you're on vesa :-p06:28
tritiumcrimsun, I just did an update/upgrade.  Nothing new now.06:28
tritiumcrimsun, Yeah, installed.06:29
tritiumIs that what's causing the breakage?06:30
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crimsunpossibly, though it's supposed to _correct_ it06:30
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tritiumcrimsun, definitely not the effect for me...06:31
crimsunI can't log out and choose a gnome session for another 20 mins06:31
tritiumWhy's that?06:31
crimsunwaiting for a transfer to complete06:31
tritiumThat's odd that these packages are supposed to fix a problem that I didn't have until I installed them.06:32
crimsunwere you using warty before, or...?06:32
tritiumYes, warty.06:32
crimsunthat's why.06:32
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crimsunThe menu layout has changed for current Hoary06:32
crimsun(and Hoary is quite in flux currently wrt menus)06:33
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amathisanyone here good with ssh / sftp?06:33
tritiumI had some problems earlier in the week, then it was fixed.06:33
amathishow can I throttle my download to 100k?06:33
tritiumI just checked /var/cache/apt/archives to be sure.  Those packages were just installed today.06:33
crimsuntritium: `gnome-menus' installed?06:33
tritiumThey have to be the cause.06:33
tritiumcrimsun, yep06:34
crimsuntritium: the packages have been "broken" for a few days06:34
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crimsuntritium: like I said, Hoary is in development; one should expect things to break every so often06:34
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tritiumYes...I know.  Too bad they don't have apt-listbugs working with bugzilla.06:34
tritiumI usually avoided this kind of problem in Debian with apt-listbugs.06:35
crimsunI normally peruse ubuntu-users to see if there are any glaring problems, then I check in here06:35
crimsunonly then do I allow apt-get to actually upgrade the hoary packages, since my system is pinned to sid+experimental06:36
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tritiumWell, thank goodness I had saved my session with some gnome-terminals.  They're all I've got.06:37
crimsunwell, there's always the tried-and-true method of `app&' in a gnome-terminal06:37
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davidehello, i am tring to reload yenta socket , how can i do?06:39
tritiumcrimsun, well, thanks.  I'm going to get going.06:40
crimsunnp, g'luck06:40
tritiumthanks.  take care.  bye06:40
K-otiKdoes anyone know how to copy DVD's onto your hd?06:40
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DigiKillwb bpd106906:41
bpd1069DigiKill : hey finally confirmed the Mac still works...  took a bit of time to get it to warm up..06:41
DigiKillnice bpd1069 : now to just rip out os9 and put a real distro on there ;)06:41
bpd1069DigiKill : don't have a adb mouse keyboard though.. so I might be able to install via the nic06:42
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pepsi_busyhow do i get my flash drive to work in hoary?06:42
bpd1069DigiKill : turns out it was 8.606:42
DigiKilllan install should be fairly easy if you can get into cfdisk the drive06:42
amathishow can I throttle download speed in sftp??06:42
DigiKilllol...even more reason to cfdisk06:42
DigiKillsftp?  not sure....gftp has an option in it i know06:43
bpd1069DigiKill well first time even attempting something like that... the CDROM is missing...06:43
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tritiumcrimsun, 1 reboot did not fix anything, but a second did.  I have new menus now.  Strange.06:44
tritiumAnyway, bye again.06:44
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K-otiKdoes anyone know how to copy DVD's onto your hd?06:44
GotD0tK-otiK: explain more of what you want to do06:45
K-otiKim starting an ftp server, i want to have DVD's like movies on their. but i dont 'know how to copy one to my harddrive06:45
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GotD0tK-otiK: it depends how you want people to use the DVD's... for burning would be one way, for watching would be another06:46
wasabiIs there a way to set a per-user timezone? :)06:46
DigiKillbpd1069: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/install     should have all the info ya need for a LAN install06:47
K-otiKi want them to be able to burn them and to play them06:47
DigiKillthats the only ppc distro ive seen w. lan install :S06:47
mercurusK-otiK: apt-cache search dvd06:47
mercurus(with universe enabled)06:47
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GotD0tK-otiK: ok, now heres the kicker... im assuming the movies are encrypted... as in store bought?06:48
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GotD0tK-otiK: ?06:49
K-otiKyea, totem wont play them06:49
DigiKillyeah...i like debian alot.06:49
K-otiKis that a problem?06:50
DigiKillSlackware tho, i do like that....and if they had made a better "Slackintosh" i woulda tried it06:50
GotD0tK-otiK: does bring up an extra layer of processing... but not anything you cant work around06:50
pepsi_busyhow can i mount my usb flash drive?06:51
GotD0tK-otiK: check out ubhuti restrictedformats06:51
Se7hjust watched a movie...06:51
GotD0tubhuti: restricted formats06:51
ubhutiGotD0t: I don't know06:51
Se7hman i crap my self06:51
GotD0tubhuti: restrictedformats06:51
ubhutiGotD0t: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?06:51
GotD0tubhuti: restrictedformat06:51
ubhutiWish i knew, GotD0t06:51
GotD0tdamn... his memory got killed06:51
GotD0tfarruinn: his db is gone...06:51
GotD0tubhuti: gotd0t06:51
ubhutiextra, extra, read all about it, gotd0t is the coolest06:51
GotD0tthats still there06:51
farruinnI know =(06:51
farruinnbut at least we can add to him now06:51
GotD0tfarruinn: true...06:52
farruinnthere really wasn't that much to begin with06:52
GotD0tfarruinn: there was restricted formats06:52
GotD0tK-otiK: im assuming you run warty?06:52
farruinnI need to go to bed now, but if you'd like to fill his little mind with tons of useful stuff be my guest =)06:52
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farruinnI'll put the restrictedformats one back in06:52
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alakdanhow do I force install a package using dpkg or apt-get?06:52
khadyoungWell, I can't boot FC306:52
khadyoungDoes Ubuntu not support ext3?06:53
gfgit supports ext306:53
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GotD0tkhadyoung: sure it does... im sure most people in here run ext306:53
GotD0tkhadyoung: i have 5 or so partitions with ext306:53
alakdankhadyoung: what are you trying to do?06:53
khadyoungI can't boot into my FC3 install06:54
munkeealakdan: man dpkg. specifically the -i and --force-<blah> stuff06:54
GotD0tkhadyoung: thats not an ubuntu problem... thats a grub problem06:54
=== theDragon thanks GotD0t
khadyoungI can't even mount the FC3 partition in Ubuntu, though?06:54
GotD0tkhadyoung: what happens when you try to mount it?06:54
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khadyoungGotD0t, something about filesystem error06:55
khadyoungGotD0t, that's why I asked about ext306:55
GotD0tkhadyoung: please supply the exact error06:55
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dreamercan anyone give me a hand for a sec? I can't seem to connect to freenode from my own box with irssi, but I can from a shell. Is there something I need to set up, like identd?06:56
khadyoungmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb2,06:56
khadyoung       or too many mounted file systems06:56
GotD0tkhadyoung: what mount options are you using06:57
DigiKilldreamer: not that i know of...i dont have identd going06:57
DigiKilltho im here in xchat06:57
khadyoungGotD0t, mount -t ext3 /dev/hdb2 /mnt/fedora06:57
GotD0tkhadyoung: does /mnt/fedora exist?06:58
khadyoungGotD0t, Yep06:58
GotD0tkhadyoung: are you sure of two things... is it located on /dev/hdb and is it actuallyn an ext3 fs?06:59
khadyoungGotD0t, I am pretty sure I resized /dev/hdb2 to make room for hdb3 when I installed Ubuntu. Could the Ubuntu installer have messed up the partition when it resized it?06:59
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mercuruskhadyoung: is there a valid filesystem on the partition since it was resized \ altered ?06:59
khadyoungmercurus, It doesn't seem like it now. I thought that the Ubuntu installer could do nondestructive resizing. Does it not?07:00
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mercuruskhadyoung: I believe it is destructive ... but I'm no authority on the point07:01
mercurusit is standard fdisk, is it not ?07:01
khadyoungmercurus, Then that explains everything. And it sure looks like that's the case07:01
khadyoungThere should be a warning or something... (Then again, maybe there was.)07:01
khadyoungI didn't have anything on it worth keeping so it's not that big of a deal07:02
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khadyoungI guess I can just reinstall FC307:02
DigiKillubuntu uses grub?   is that what i saw?07:02
khadyoungDigiKill, Yes07:02
DigiKilldammit.....i like lilo better...hehe07:03
DigiKillwonder if ubuntu will install onto a 2nd partition07:03
DigiKillgonna try for a dualboot i think...07:04
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mercurusDigiKill: Ubuntu will, most happily, install to any partition or partitions you so desire07:09
DigiKilli hope so....im trying to save my osx install....07:09
DigiKillwtf....someone made a FightClub Video game07:11
DigiKillthats hilarious07:11
GotD0thow can i write a UDF filesystem?07:11
DigiKillwrite to a udf system?07:12
GotD0tno... make an image file of a UDF filesystem07:12
GotD0tsomething like mkisofs... but for the UDF filesystem (not ISO9660)07:13
GotD0tah... i gotta sleep07:14
DigiKillUDF Tools07:14
GotD0till look into that tomorrow07:14
DigiKillnite GotD0t ...sleep well07:14
GotD0tthanks DigiKill07:15
DigiKillno prob.  Linux google is a good friend ;)07:15
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bpd1069DigiKill : welp after research, it looks like it is possible to install on this Mac'n'Stien... but it would require a bit more effort than I am willing to give...07:26
bpd1069goes in the closet!07:27
DigiKilli can understand that07:27
bpd1069not having a CDROM/keyboard/mouse makes it hard07:27
DigiKillno cd drive eh.....07:27
DigiKillyeah...that'd be difficult07:27
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bpd1069has the old buggy 1.0.5 Openfirmware...07:29
bpd1069sooooo too much hassle for now07:29
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DigiKillyeah....at 1am it'd be for me too07:29
DigiKilltoo much hassle07:29
DigiKillthats a early morning , bored outta ya mind kinda install07:30
DigiKillearly morning meaning before 3pm ;)07:30
bpd1069well yes, but i need more machines in this place...  kinda boring not being able to ssh into something07:30
DigiKilli know what ya mean07:31
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bpd1069oh well... off to bed...  thanks for the help Digi07:32
DigiKillno prob bpd1069 : have a good nit07:32
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neoxedany one know where i can get some awsome wall paper?07:36
ctdgoogle? your local digital camera? :)07:36
ctdDepends what you like.07:36
crimsunand yeah, it depends07:37
neoxedi want crazy wired wallpaper07:37
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amathisGirls don't seem to like it when you ask them if you can suck their blood as a sign of affection.07:40
Gmaili vote amathis should be banned if ever says rated R stuff again07:41
amathiswrong window.07:41
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Gmailsure like we all belive you07:41
Gmailamathis: where is the "right" window?07:41
amathisGmail: #noodlebot07:41
TreenaksGmail: stfu07:42
GmailTreenaks: lol07:43
Gmaillook at this gdm bug07:44
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billytwowillyso, has totem/gstreamer ever actually worked for anyone? I decided to fire it up again and see if it was still broken (haven't used it since warty install, now on latest hoary) and it is still broken..07:45
Treenaksbillytwowilly: yes07:45
billytwowillyI get audio, but no video07:45
Treenaksbillytwowilly: only on ogg/theora movies though07:46
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billytwowillyso divx/mp3 just doesn't work?07:46
billytwowillyso it's not just something screwy with my system then? avi files aren't supposed to play?07:47
zenwhenget totem-xine and the w32codecs07:47
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billytwowillythat's dirty.07:47
=== billytwowilly will just stick with mplayer.
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=== Gmail looks at real player
billytwowillydirty as in hackish.07:48
zenwhenif it works, why does it matter.07:48
Agrajagand mplayer isn't?07:48
creeperzWho here hates Gmail because he belongs in #pussy-whiners?07:48
zenwhenrisc is going to change everything07:48
billytwowillymplayer is, but mplayer is way faster than xine.07:48
Rene_SMan this place is degenerating07:48
zenwhencreeperz, you said it, not me.07:48
Gmailcreeperz: hey i don't have any player installed07:48
TreenaksRene_S: the mods are all in one timezon, that's the problem07:48
billytwowillyso I'll take hackish and fast over slightly less hackish and slower;)07:48
TreenaksRene_S: once they wake up gmail will be banned again07:49
Agrajagbut you don't get the nice GNOME gui07:49
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Gmaili don't watch "illegal" movies07:49
creeperzGmail: so... uh... why is my favorite channel not allowed on the network?07:49
GmailTreenaks: why will i be banned?07:49
=== Agrajag thinks billytwowilly uses /me way too much
creeperzand why do you need op in it to see your imaginary rulebook?07:49
zenwhenhe came into #ubuntuforums earlier just to say he didnt want t be there07:49
=== billytwowilly thinks Agrajag doesn't use it enough.
=== Agrajag realizes that's just his own opinion though
NetSurfAUG'day, Have just tried three times to install Ubuntu and each time after reboot I keep getting Error 18 when "Grub stage1.5 starts loading.  Ideas07:49
TreenaksGmail: yeah.. why ban.. read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct please07:50
Gmailcreeperz: i thought it was a channegl like #nigel anyway offtopic07:50
creeperzGmail: #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #07:50
creeperzpussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner #pussy-Whiner07:50
amathiso god07:50
billytwowillyGmail, go to #politics. Lots of people looking to fin in there.07:50
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Agrajaghey man07:50
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Agrajagthat was just plain uncalled for07:50
amathisyou cannot take creeperz anywhere can you?07:50
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billytwowillysee, If I was op I could just kick ban them both and be done with it. And I'm in north america.07:51
amathisbillytwowilly: both == ?07:51
billytwowillygmail + creeperz07:51
billytwowillyPlus I'm a responsible guy. I'm the VP Finance for my University's opensource advocacy group. LSD07:52
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billytwowillysee, VP Finance = conservative tight ass, and opensource advocacy = good with people. It's the perfect fit for a moderator.07:53
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billytwowillycheck us out. digital-liberation.ca07:53
NetSurfAUI thought this is where I came for help with issues with Ubu, not listen to off-topic winging07:54
crimsunNetSurfAU: you're correct on the first part07:54
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GmailOMG all staffer are away07:54
crimsunwhat can we help you with?07:54
billytwowillyNetSurfAU, You can do both here, the ops are asleep;)07:54
NetSurfAURe-post - G'day, Have just tried three times to install Ubuntu and each time after reboot I keep getting Error 18 when "Grub stage1.5 starts loading.  Ideas07:55
billytwowillyThe lights are on, but nobody is home;)07:55
ironwolfis there a known problem installing themes on hoary?07:55
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creeperzGmail: we're all starting a club...07:56
creeperzyoure in it07:56
creeperzbut everyone else isnt07:56
billytwowillyNetSurfAU, hmm. I thought the forum was ubuntuforum.org, but that doesn't appear to be it. I'd check the forum about your error though.07:56
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creeperzits called "Little Baby Girly Whiners"07:56
amathisyou got the wrong nick07:56
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amathisand why isn't the channel topiclocked07:56
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NetSurfAUmy screen says this group is "Topic   Ubuntu support channel"07:57
Agent86Gmail: Nice job.  I think people can handle their own ignoring, no? :-P07:57
billytwowillyso gmail is an op? I thought everyone was complaining about him.07:57
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amathisserioiusley.. why is topiclock not on?07:57
creeperzbillytwowilly: we are!07:57
Gmailbillytwowilly: no07:57
crimsunamathis: self-policing07:57
crimsunamathis: I'm sure the ops will adjust it if necessary07:57
amathisbillytwowilly: topiclock isn't on o.o07:57
amathiscrimsun: I was just taking off the part added.. o.007:57
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creeperzmainly because Gmail is in the club that nobody else is in07:58
NetSurfAUchecked on-line documentation b4 coming in here - no help there for my issue07:58
crimsunamathis: that's fine07:58
creeperz(See above)07:58
Gmailcya all till creeperz gets klined07:58
crimsunNetSurfAU: SATA HD? ATA? SCSI?07:58
creeperzGmail: im gunna suck your blood!07:58
creeperzthrough a bendy-straw!07:59
creeperzthen im gunan feast on your entrails!07:59
amathisoh my.07:59
NetSurfAUATA - PC is a PII 300 with 256Mb ram & 13Gb HD.  + PCI NIC07:59
billytwowillyNetSurfAU, it's in the forum07:59
billytwowillyNetSurfAU, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6448&highlight=error+1807:59
creeperz(Evil laugh)08:00
Gmaili need logs of this to send to all staffers08:00
Gmailanyone with a voice in #freenode ? please complain08:01
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Gmailbob2: please complain in #freenode for us08:01
creeperzGmail: just think before you start throwing accusations around, dude.08:01
creeperzand i think everyone here hates you anyhow08:01
billytwowillyso now gmail is complaining about creeperz complaining about gmail? this is all kinda lame..08:01
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NetSurfAUThanks B-t-W - will come back if anything else pops up that I can't find in the forum you've pointed me to.  CIAO08:02
billytwowillyNetSurfAU, try the thing in the last post of that forum thread I sent you.08:02
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billytwowillyNetSurfAU, good luck08:02
creeperzGmail: i bet yu half the people here that you think like you actually dont :-)08:02
creeperzwhich is kidna funny08:02
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creeperzwhere are all the ops in this channel?08:02
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=== amathis begs to differ with Ag
=== amathis begs to differ with Agent86
crimsuncreeperz: self-policing. "Ubuntu" philosophy.08:03
Agent86amathis: ?08:03
Gmailthat thunder08:03
candymanhi #ubuntu08:03
creeperzwell, im gunna self-police my ass out of here08:03
amathisGmail: guess what boy! I have a cookie for you! Go get it! it is in that suspicious looking death tra.... closet08:03
Gmailcandyman: ingore creeperz and welcome08:03
creeperzbefore Gmail says i cant live in my house or some shit08:04
Agent86Gmail: Likey yew the thunder? ^_^08:04
Gmailcreeperz: are you on drugs08:04
amathis... he's touching me! ..... 'no he's touching me!08:04
Agent86Gmail: Usually he is, but not today, actually.08:04
creeperzGmail: nope08:04
amathisAgent86: how true :D08:04
creeperzquit 4 days ago08:05
creeperzAgent86: was it 4 days ago?08:05
creeperzor 3?08:05
Agent86creeperz: Three.08:05
amathisGmail: are you on feminine steroids?08:05
creeperz3 days since any drug!08:05
creeperz(excluding caffeine)08:05
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billytwowillycreeperz, what kind of drugs did you take?08:05
creeperzAmaranth: NO MORE R-Rated stuff!!08:06
Amaranthcreeperz: ??08:06
creeperzbillytwowilly: all the good ones that i'm not supposed :-)08:06
Agent86creeperz: Err, you mean amathis?08:06
creeperzamathis: :-)08:06
amathisdon't smile at me.08:06
ctdOkay, calm down kids.08:06
billytwowillycreeperz, just stay away from ecstacy. That stuff is a seretonin receptor neuro toxin08:06
amathisyou know how that makes me feel inside :P08:06
Gmailthats it this channel full of lamers08:06
amathisGmail: then leave?08:07
creeperzbillytwowilly: /me doesnt do ex08:07
creeperzthat crap is bad08:07
creeperzand so is meth08:07
ctdGmail: Sorry if we're not cool enough for you.08:07
creeperzjust stuff that should be legal but isnt08:07
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billytwowillymeth isn't really that bad.08:07
billytwowillyit's just a really cheap to produce amphetamine08:07
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AmaranthThis place is _not_ self policing.08:07
creeperzGmail: my DEEPEST apolagies08:07
amathisGmail: dude, quit.08:07
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billytwowillyCould you guys please stop screwing with the channel topic?08:08
billytwowillyI'm trying to talk about drugs here;)08:08
amathisbillytwowilly: I am just restoring it.08:08
Amaranthbillytwowilly: Cut it out.08:08
amathisbillytwowilly: heh, creeperz is a lightweight when it comes to drugs08:08
creeperzamathis: screw you :-)08:08
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amathiscompared to (blank )08:08
ctdThank the lord, he's gone.08:08
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creeperzjust cuz i cant choke down 2 bacardis doesnt mean i cant take shots of vodka all night :-)08:09
amathishow do you add windows to grub off a slave HD?08:09
creeperzthere's some interesting people in this channel08:09
Amaranthamathis: no clue but the grub config should give a nice example08:09
creeperzctd: good to meet you :-)08:09
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amathisAmaranth: I added it exactly like example said08:09
amathisbut it didn't do it08:09
creeperzbillytwowilly: good to meet you too :-)08:09
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calcamathis: did you set hd to 1,0 (or whatever drive/partition it is seen as?)08:10
ctdcreeperz: Have a nice life. :)08:10
AmaranthAmaranth: hd0 in grub is like /dev/hda in linux08:10
Amaranthso if you have it pointing to hd0 it won't work08:10
Amaranthhd1 is like /dev/hdb, etc08:10
creeperzwhen Gmail comes back... tell him I'm in the closet08:10
creeperzHIS closet08:10
creeperznot *the* closet :-)08:10
amathisAmaranth: hrm.. ok08:10
billytwowillycreeperz, yes, It is nice to meet you also. If you want to know more about drugs message me;) I'm taking a pharmacology course on them right now;)08:10
Amaranthcreeperz: You should come out already, no one will make fun of you. ;)08:11
neoxedany one got x-java-vm?08:11
amathis.msg billytwowilly HOOK ME UP08:11
Amaranthneoxed: http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:11
billytwowillyheh, I don't do drugs, I just find them intrigueing.08:11
amathisbillytwowilly: I did too... right as they entered my arm.08:11
ctdPanadol does wonders to fix my gmail "issue".08:11
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zenwhencan ANYONE change the topic?08:12
zenwhenWow, just wow.08:12
creeperzbillytwowilly: never snort half a pill of oxycodone :-)08:12
creeperzthats all i can tell yu ;-)08:12
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AmaranthHe was so wow'ed his connection gave out. :D08:12
amathishmm.. Amaranth what file controls grub?08:12
|QuaD|does anyone here know about apache's ssi's?08:12
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ctd|QuaD|: Apache's docs do. ;)08:12
billytwowillycreeperz, that a designer drug that acts like morphine?08:12
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creeperznot as addictive08:13
|QuaD|ctd: isn't answering my question08:13
Se7hoh man08:13
creeperzand your legs will feel like jell-o :-)08:13
Se7hjackass2 rules08:13
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amathiswhat file controls grub loaders?08:13
Amaranthamathis: I'm looking08:13
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amathisI have always been used to lilo08:13
Agrajagisn't it /boot/grub/menu.lst ?08:14
amathis ah08:14
DigiKillsame here...lilo all the way :S08:14
AmaranthAgrajag: yep, thats it08:14
amathistitleWindows XP Professional08:14
amathisrootnoverify (hd1,0)08:14
amathishow should this look?08:14
ctd|QuaD|: Then ask your question. :)08:14
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|QuaD|ctd: is there a way to use a ssi without starting <!--08:15
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neoxedstill cant find the install for x-jav08:16
creeperzif any of you cool people want to get ahold of me, I'll be in #Noodlebot ... The channel that your "fearless leader" doesn't think should be on the network :-D08:17
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billytwowillyanyone know how to bring back the crossover office additions to the menu that got wiped out when hoary did that whole menu change?08:17
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ctd|QuaD|: Have you looked at http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/ssi.html ?08:18
Gmailis the lamers still here08:19
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ctdGmail: Dude.08:19
ctdGmail: Flaming people isn't going to help you in life.08:19
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|QuaD|ctd: yeah08:21
AmaranthGmail: Drop it.08:21
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|QuaD|ctd: it didn't say we COULD or couldn't08:22
neoxedQuaD where can i get x-java-vm.?08:22
Gmail|QuaD|: your a lot more than creeperz and amathis and billytwowilly08:22
Gmailoh wait is amathis ment to be on that list?08:23
Amaranthneoxed: You need to install Java, see http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:23
|QuaD|neoxed: there is a faq on the website08:23
|QuaD|Gmail: be nice08:23
Gmailto you08:23
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|QuaD|to everyone08:23
Gmailno amathis is ment to be on that list08:23
amathisGmail: consult a dictionary... it is all the new rage... *meant08:24
ctd|QuaD|: So you want to do SSI's without the <!-- --> thing?08:24
|QuaD|yeah.... more of just curious if you can08:24
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RuffianSoldierpeeps trollin in here?08:24
Amaranthdaniels is away08:24
RuffianSoldiergoodnight all08:24
amathisGood night.08:25
Amaranthhe has been idle 8 hours :P08:25
Amaranthnight RuffianSoldier08:25
ctdRuffianSoldier: Were you the one last night asking about X?08:25
ctd|QuaD|: Can't say I've seen it done before08:26
|QuaD|ctd: s'ok08:26
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ironwolfOk, Theme's are borked in Hoary... No eta yet.08:27
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gecko[au] gday08:28
ironwolfgday gecko08:28
gecko[au] need some help with java setup08:28
|QuaD|gecko[au] : did you read the wiki?08:28
gecko[au] been told java-package should be used08:28
gecko[au] checking08:29
RuffianSoldieri want Sun JDS08:29
neoxedE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:30
neoxedany one know how to fix dpkg?08:30
crimsunneoxed: it's not dpkg's fault; it's the package's08:30
crimsunneoxed: what's the error above that?08:30
neoxedmuddleftpd error in file ftpwho.c line 602: No parent pid in inetd mode.08:31
neoxedCANNOT RESUME. Goodbye08:31
neoxedinvoke-rc.d: initscript muddleftpd, action "start" failed.08:31
neoxeddpkg: error processing muddleftpd (--configure):08:31
neoxedStarting FTP server: muddleftpd error in file proxy.c line 329: Cannot bind to port 21, ip, skipping!08:31
crimsunneoxed: is something else listening on tcp/21?08:32
neoxedi dunno08:32
crimsunneoxed: netstat -ntpl|grep 2108:32
neoxedtcp        0      0    *               LISTEN     3112/inetd08:33
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crimsunneoxed: inetd is already listening on 21, which implies you probably have another ftp daemon configured to use inetd08:33
neoxedhow can i stop it08:34
crimsunneoxed: try `sudo invoke-rc.d inetd stop'08:34
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neoxedwoot worked08:34
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Gmailnew menu thing is soo cool08:35
Gmailplaces and system08:36
zenwhenNow I am REALLY tempted to upgrade to hoary.08:38
Gmailwhy don't you08:38
zenwhenBecause my system has to be stable.08:39
ironwolfzenwhen: define stable.08:39
gecko[au] anyone got notes 6.5.2 working on ubuntu08:39
zenwhenI dont have time to piss around with reinstalling.08:39
Gmailhoary hasn't crashed on me ever08:39
zenwhenGmail, it has for many people.08:39
Gmailzenwhen: i have never reinstalled08:40
zenwhenI am setting up another machine soon to do testing with soon.08:40
Gmaili was using from the second the merge was finished08:40
ironwolfzenwhen: best off with warty.  Hoary crashes aren't pleasant.08:40
zenwhenBut still, many have had issues.08:40
Gmailzenwhen: the only problem you'll have is dependces08:40
zenwhenI cannot deal with them on my main system.08:40
Gmailhoary had a huge isue a few days ago08:41
gecko[au] one more question... thanks for the help on the java one08:41
Gmailzenwhen: wait till gnome 2.9.3 gets into hoary the day after itsrelested08:41
gecko[au] what is ubuntu live?08:41
Gmailthen hoary will be a huge upgrade08:42
ironwolfgecko[au] : it's a cd that you can pop in and run off the CD, without installing.  Think of it as a test drive.08:42
Gmailgecko[au] : a os that boot off your cd drive08:42
zenwhenIm going to use hoary when there is a preview ISO.08:42
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gecko[au] Gmail: how useful08:42
Gmailgecko[au] : it doesn't touch your harddrive08:42
gecko[au] Gmail: are you serious?08:43
Gmailgecko[au] : good to see if there are the driver needed for your hardware08:43
Gmailgecko[au] : yes08:43
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Gmailthis is linux08:43
gecko[au] Gmail: wow thanks!08:43
Gmailbot winbloze08:43
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Gmailgnome 3 is going to kill a big part of windoze share market and so is kde 4 for those people who like it08:44
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gecko[au] Ubuntu is great but their are a lot of desktop holes... still needs work to make it good for dummies08:44
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gecko[au] its still a lot more stable than winblowz08:45
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SynekBut it needs an extra skill to instal and "dget to work"08:45
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gecko[au] yep - its a lot closer to the mark than most08:46
gecko[au] I so want a SOE linux desktop it almost hurts08:46
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declanhello all08:47
Gmailgecko[au] :  true linux user don't know what a crash is08:47
declani was wondering if anyone could help me with a little mounting problem I am having I would greatly appreciate it08:47
gecko[au] gday declan, now where do I know that name from08:47
Gmailthats how stable it is08:47
declana movie maybe, the jackal, lol08:47
gecko[au] ahh yes08:48
declanalso my name haha08:48
declangecko would you be willing to help me out if ya could08:48
gecko[au] Gmail: yes but true linux user dont see the need for seemless desktop... where as IT companies require it.08:48
gecko[au] yeah sure08:49
Gmailyou guys should now the tab key auto complates a nick in most irc clients08:49
Gmailgecko[au] : yes they do08:49
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declanI am mounting an NTFS drive in linux, edited /etc/fstab created a windows folder in /media to mount it to, but its only allowing root to access it, i have it to be able to be user mounted, but it only allows root to access it, wondering how to allow user to access it08:50
Gmaillinus officaly uses x08:50
gecko[au] declan: you need to use the "user" option in fstab on the line that refers to the mount point08:50
declanyes i have that08:51
declanhold on lemme get you ms fstab line08:51
gecko[au] ok then are the perms correct on the directory/08:51
gecko[au] ?08:51
gecko[au] declan: on the mount directory? (hmm not sure if it affects mounts)08:52
declan/dev/hda1   /media/windows   ntfs    ro,user, auto         0          008:53
declanon the mount directory chmod to myself08:53
declanwell not myself, but to allow all, to r,w,x08:53
gecko[au] ok so perms are 77708:53
Agrajaghere's mine08:53
Agrajag/dev/hdb4               /mnt/nt         ntfs            users,ro,umask=0222,nls=utf8,exec       0 008:54
Agrajagtry that08:54
Agrajagor... you know, something like it08:54
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neoxedany one know any proragms that will read large tex docs for you?08:55
ironwolfneoxed: I like vi, others like emacs.08:56
neoxedvi easy to use?08:56
declanAgrajag, Thanks, that worked, im really not sure why, could you explain, the difference with users, as opposed to user, and whats the umask, and nls....if you could thanks08:56
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ironwolfneoxed: it's not the most user friendly piece of software on the market, but it's easy to work with if you find a quick reference.08:57
neoxedi c08:57
Gmailwhy doesn't the gnome team take the distro patches that make gnome more user friendly?08:58
gecko[au] declan: users will work, user may not08:58
declanthanks a lot guys...08:58
neoxedi got alot fo c++ ebooks and well i need glass;s cuz if i sit and read for more then 10 mins my eyes burn so bad08:58
Agrajagwell, umask isn't really needed, it just forces everything to appear to be r-xr-xr-x08:58
Agrajagnls=utf8 sets language for the filenames to utf8, I need it or some of my mp3s have broken filenames08:59
gecko[au] declan: its a bit like the difference between kill -1 PID and kill - 1 PID08:59
Agrajagand users makes it so any user can mount/umount08:59
declanwanna help me with one more thing....im new to the way debian gets packages, im using ubuntu, i want to install xmms, how would i go about doing it seeing as im not sure if i can use rpm(im coming from using mandrake)08:59
neoxedis it called emacspeak?08:59
Agrajagdeclan: sudo apt-get install xmms09:00
gecko[au] beat me09:00
KonvIRCubuntu is based on debian so any debian packages will work right?09:00
gecko[au] mostly yes09:00
Agrajagnot necessarily09:00
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declanim guessing that would be the same for most things, and if debian doesn't have a package i would need to build from source correct?09:00
gecko[au] the cup is half full?09:00
KonvIRCim just gonna try it out and iso is only 500mb so im assuming its missing a lot09:00
KonvIRCso im just thinking of where i can get everything09:01
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KonvIRCw/o having to compile09:01
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gecko[au] discussing the ubuntu "experience"...09:02
declanAnyone know of any C++ or Java Developement editors, that will color code and do indents, that aren't emacs or Vi09:02
Gmaildeclan: there are like another 1000 of them09:03
declanlol ok09:04
gecko[au] discussing the ubuntu "experience"... starting with the web experience, firefox is a great browser but all the attachments are missing. Quicktime, Flash, Java and robust multimedia players need to be working from first install09:04
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declani agree09:05
neoxedany one know how to use emacspeak09:05
neoxedand if it reads tex?09:05
declani think that an MP3 plugin should be included on first install as well, or is that a legal issue09:05
gecko[au] mutimedia player should cover that09:06
Agrajagit shouldn't be a legal issue, I thought the mp3 license says you can distribute a decoder for free if you don't charge for the software09:07
gecko[au] on the software side, if you want install on demand, it must be seemless... yes/no simplicity09:07
declani tried music player but it said no plugin avail to play MP309:07
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gecko[au] Synaptic is nice but useless for the average windows user09:08
Agrajagyou mean rhythmbox09:08
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declanyea rhythmbox09:08
calcAgrajag: well it just says "Music Player" on the menu ;)09:08
Agrajagyeah that annoys me09:09
gecko[au] in fact the whole package management system should be totally transparent. They want something, they search and click go...09:09
gecko[au] anyway - thats enough heresy from me09:09
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declanDo any of you develope for a career or for open source?09:10
gecko[au] I wish, I dont have the discipline09:11
calci'm just a package monkey right now09:11
declangecko whats the profession, just curious09:12
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calcwritten a few minor things like kernel drivers, menu-xdg, etc09:12
Gmailcalc: i got something you will love to package09:13
calcif it doesn't suck like kde i might ;)09:13
kleedracI've got a couple questions for the ubuntu gurus here ... 1) How do I get .wma support for xmms?  2) Why does mplayer crash after beginning to parse the .conf file?09:13
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Gmailcalc: its nothing in that sence09:13
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declanxmms would have a plugin not sure if it supports wma, i know for a fact xine does09:14
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KonvIRCi used to program for OSS full time paid09:14
calcGmail: wow is that like a cpanel replacement?09:14
KonvIRCfor about 1.5 years09:14
kleedracI can find xmms-wma.rpm can't find the .deb though ... can ubuntu use rpms?09:14
KonvIRCcompany spent all their money and laid everyone off09:14
KonvIRCwouldnt the best way to get stuff be apt-get ?09:15
Gmailcalc: yes09:15
ctd-goslarkleedrac: No.09:15
declannot sure if it can use rpm, probably not, someone else comment there, you can always build from source09:15
calcGmail: thats pretty nice :)09:15
Gmailcalc: yes in #vhcs09:15
KonvIRCtheres a thing on getting mplayer in ubuntu09:15
KonvIRCvia google09:16
ctd-goslarKonvIRC: To get mplayer, you just install it from multiverse.09:16
kleedracI got mplayer installed but it crashes with Reading config file /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf09:16
kleedracIllegal instruction09:16
neoxedany one know a good program this will read out loud large tex files?09:18
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snipesMy computer is doing something strange. Gkrellm says there is disk activity. How can I find out what it is doing?09:20
crimsuntop(1) is also useful for that, snipes09:21
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snipesyea top doesnt tell me anything useful in this instance.09:22
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snipesnot that I can notice anyway09:23
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snipesdoes linux automaticly do any defrag type thing that could cause disk activity? It is reading about 4 MB/s and writing about 2MB/s.09:26
Syneksnipes: disk acitivity? it can be updatedb or sth09:27
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snipeshmmm, possibly but its been going on about 20 minutes now09:28
Synekno idea09:28
crimsunsnipes: what sort of programs are running?09:29
crimsunand what file systems are you using?09:29
gecko[au] is their a one line command to install a locally created package which has a dependancy on multiverse package.. can apt-get do all this?09:30
snipesapache, mysqld, azureus, vncserver, quite a few programs but for the last few days it hasnt been this much activity09:30
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crimsunI venture it's probably the java vm reading from disk for azureus09:30
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crimsunparticularly if any of your torrents are moving quickly09:31
crimsunreading/writing from/to disk09:31
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Celerysmall problem09:31
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Celerexi was never asked to set a root password..09:31
crimsungecko[au] : unfortunately, no09:31
Celerexah, sudo :)09:31
crimsunCelerex: use sudo with your user's password. This is explained in the FAQ.09:31
Celerexjust found it :)09:32
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miausXhi! :)09:32
crimsungecko[au] : you can apt-get install the dependency, then dpkg -i the local package09:32
crimsunhi miausX09:32
miausXexcuse me, I have added a few lines to the SettingUpSamba howto, can anybody read it to see if it's correct? I don't speak english very well :)09:33
miausXhi crimsun :)09:33
crimsunsure, miausX. Use a paste web site if necessary.09:33
snipeswould excessive swapping cause visible diskactivity? its on an XBox with 64MB RAM.09:33
crimsunsnipes: certainly09:33
Celerexi've got a problem with apt, it complains that it can't open the locals 'en'. is there something else is hould use?09:33
crimsunCelerex: try exporting LANG=C and LC_ALL=C09:34
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snipesthanks a lot everybody09:34
miausXcrimsun, oh, it's in the Ubuntu web site --> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba09:34
maswanDoes bugfixes like this go into warty? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=25618509:34
miausXyou can see my changes with the "history" tab :)09:34
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miausXI have changed that section because the old settings are not secure, now it works fine (at last on my server)09:36
Celerexso default of C is a sufficent language locale?09:36
crimsunmaswan: that NMU is dated [Sat,  3 Jul 2004 09:34:31 +0200] , long before the release of Warty09:37
crimsunmaswan: what version of python2.3-zsi is in Warty?09:37
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miausXcrimsun, Version: 1.5.0-209:38
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crimsunmiausX: not sure. It seems like a minor bugfix. Ask doko himself. :) It'll definitely be in Hoary; you can check yourself via 'universe' in apt-cache policy.09:39
crimsunmaswan: ^09:40
crimsun(thanks though, miausX)09:40
crimsunmiausX: looks fine to me09:40
Celerexi'm trying to do an apt-get install locales lsb ubuntu-desktop and all it does it complain about locales. I've reset LANG and LANGUAGE to C but it complains:09:40
miausXthanks crimsun :)09:40
Celerexen.ISO-8859-1... cannot open locale definition file 'en': No such file or directory09:40
miausXor en_US09:40
Celerexthe error is exactly like i see it09:41
crimsunlocales should already be installed09:41
Celerexthat's what's failing09:41
crimsunwhy are you attempting to (re)install it?09:41
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miausXOhmer, I have to study a bit, see you later :)09:42
Celerexthe intial install complained that it failed09:42
Celerexand no every tim ei do an apt-get it complains it can't install those packages09:42
crimsunah, I see09:42
Celerexthat was "and now every time i do.."09:42
declannight folks09:42
crimsunCelerex: I don't even see "en_EN*" as a choice09:44
Celerexyeah well i don't know where it's set09:45
crimsunCelerex: I think you mean en_US or en_US.UTF-809:45
Celerexif i could change it i would09:45
crimsunyou would put:09:46
crimsunen_US ISO-8859-109:46
crimsunlike that.09:46
crimsunerr, woops ;-)09:46
Celerexwhat's the entry in your locales.gen?09:46
Celerexit was en ###...09:46
Celerexit doesn't like en_US.###...09:47
Celerex(it just says bad entry)09:47
crimsunI have the line I just pasted + "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8"09:47
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maswancrimsun: thanks09:55
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Alex1someone can help me?09:57
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Emanuelezhello *09:59
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Emanuelezbacking my debian up to switch to ubuntu :)09:59
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|QuaD|Emanuelez: i like to hear that09:59
Emanuelezwhat's a safe way to backup emails (evolution)? should i just burn the Mail dir and copy it back once ubuntu is installed?10:00
|QuaD|Emanuelez: that would probably work10:00
Celerexubuntu provides FireFox 0.9.3??10:01
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Alex1i`ve a problem with acpi_power_off called, i edit the file as guide said but my pc does not turn off10:01
Emanuelez|QuaD|: probably? LOL10:01
Alex1someone can help me?10:01
alessio_i'ahve the same problem10:01
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|QuaD|Emanuelez: i normally just back up my /etc and /home directories10:02
Emanuelez|QuaD|: that's what i'm doing :)10:02
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|QuaD|Emanuelez: :)10:03
Emanuelezis ubuntulinux.org working for u? it seems like freezing to me..10:03
|QuaD|Emanuelez: yup10:03
Alex1noone can help me?10:04
Emanuelezmmm... i guess my isp is having problems then :-S10:04
EmanuelezAlex1: is acpi turned on in your bios?10:04
Alex1yes it is10:04
EmanuelezAlex1: and u have a standard kernel with acpi enabled?10:05
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Alex1apcid is also active10:05
calci've seen the no turn off issue on several pcs10:05
calci think was bugged10:05
Celerexanyway i can sim an intall?10:06
Celerexie, tell apt that a package is installed without it being installed?10:06
calcequivs will do that10:06
housetierCelerex look at equivs10:07
calcits probably in universe10:07
Celerexbah i'm blocked now.. stupid dependancies10:08
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Celerexi'm trying to install this package and it's complaining that a file is provided by another package. can i tell apt to just overwrite orskip?10:09
Emanuelezis there an ubuntu channel for amd64 users?10:09
calcEmanuelez: i think its here as well10:10
calci have two ubuntu amd64 boxes here10:10
Emanuelezcalc: cool... what issues will i have to face? :)10:11
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calchoary seems to work fine for me10:14
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calca few of the applets crash every once in a while10:14
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seb128calc, any backtrace of the crash ?10:16
calcseb128: i'll try to grab one the next time it happens10:17
seb128calc, I made -dbg packages for panel/applets/gnomevfs ... just install them :)10:17
calcthe applet that seems to crash most often is the weather one10:17
seb128please install gnome-applets-dbg10:17
seb128so you get a decent bt10:17
calcnone of them crash very often probably less than once a day10:18
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hazza96is hoary the next release after warty?10:21
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hazza96what stage is it at? beta?10:23
Celerexjust a FEW packages to upgrade from the ubuntu tree to unstable debian tree10:24
Emanuelezmmm... i guess i will be installing the 32 bit version... or my ati radeon 9600 will never be accelerated10:26
hazza96is it possible to install Warty and do a update to get it to hoary?10:27
CelerexEmanuelez don't forget the fglrx drivers ;)10:27
hazza96cool cause I just downloaded warty and don't want to download the whole thing again10:27
EmanuelezCelerex: what r those?10:28
Celerexthose are the ATI drivers10:28
Celerexspecically done for the Radeon cards. HUGE difference over the generic ATI driver or radeon driver included with xfree10:28
hazza96thanks seb12810:28
EmanuelezCelerex: for 64 bit kernels too?10:29
Celerexwell you can build them yourself if you so desire. i dn't have any 64 machines and i've never heard either way whether they work or not10:29
EmanuelezCelerex: aren't those the official ati drivers for linux?10:30
danielsfglrx on amd64 does not work, full stop10:33
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fabbionetsk :-)10:35
danielsthanks, forgot about that one10:35
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Emanuelezdaniels: thx :)10:36
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trukulodaniels, have you seen jane there? i have to talk with her10:36
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danielstrukulo: she's away, sorry; is there anything I can help with?10:37
trukuloyes, two things i have to inform10:37
trukuloin private, please10:37
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Alessiowhere cani i find php5?10:44
Alessiowhere can i find php5?10:44
Alessioonly form source?10:44
Alessioonly from source?10:44
Alessiois there any .deb?10:44
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Alessiothen only form source!10:45
Emanuelezany gaim-vv user here?10:46
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Emanuelezi need webcam support for yahoo messenger and gaim-vv was the only one i could make work on debian10:46
Alessioctd, i have installed mysql and apache from apt10:47
Alessiocan i install only php5 from.. source?10:47
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jiyuu0any suggested good newsreader program?11:06
jiyuu0can evolution do it?11:06
jiyuu0how bout thunderbird?11:06
linux_mafiajiyuu0, maybe11:06
linux_mafiajiyuu0, evo that is, not sure on tbird11:07
iMeXdiACi use thunderbird :) ..11:07
iMeXdiACworks nice ..11:07
jiyuu0so no need to recommend extra program for newsreader11:07
jiyuu0thanks :)11:07
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, anything in particular you like about tbird over evo?11:08
iMeXdiAChmm ..11:08
KeybukBurgundavia_: gleetings11:08
iMeXdiACi like tbird a bit more .. in the 1.0 release vers .. as now its a prerelease thats in the standard warty repository11:09
iMeXdiACits the layout i like in tbird11:10
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iMeXdiACand the possibility to write an extension or add one if i ever feel to have the need to11:11
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, ok, i might have to try it, only using evo, just cause i always have, no other reason really, although its a damn good app11:11
iMeXdiACthey both are for sure ..11:12
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, you using hoary?11:12
iMeXdiACnah wardog ..11:12
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, ok, just gonna comment on the new menu setup, seems kinda weird to me, guess i'll get used to it11:13
iMeXdiACdont know the upgrade procedure .. i came from debian .. havent read the docs yet11:13
linux_mafiawondered if others thought so too11:13
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, came from debian? dist-upgraded to warty, or switched?11:14
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iMeXdiACi switched ..11:15
iMeXdiACas i had some trouble ..11:15
iMeXdiACtried gentoo ..11:15
iMeXdiAChad problems to get the kernel running compiling correctly11:15
linux_mafiawell upgrade procedure is same as stable -> testing -> sid, if youve done that before11:15
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iMeXdiACas some pam dependency wasnt included and i couldnt login11:16
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, in gentoo?11:16
iMeXdiACyup ..11:16
iMeXdiACim on a ppc proc .. :)11:17
linux_mafiaiMeXdiAC, i must admit gentoo intrigues me, but all that compilation, im just not masochistic enough11:17
linux_mafiaplus im impatient11:17
iMeXdiAChmm .. i thought why not try it as it was on second hardware i didnt need at that time11:18
iMeXdiACand wanted to get used to another distri11:18
iMeXdiACand my proc has only 466mhz11:19
KeybukDaniel is *evil*11:19
bluewheellinux_mafia, I tried gentoo once, after 2 hours of getting basicly nothing done I instlled sarge in 30 mins and had a working X system, much quicker than the days of noting but gcc screens11:19
Keybuktempting people over with the promise of chocolate, and giving them that stuff11:20
iMeXdiACblueweel :) well i had it nearly running ..11:20
linux_mafiabluewheel, yeah thats kinda how i see it, plus from what ive read, although im not an os programmer, the speed gains from optimisation are negligable11:20
bluewheellinux_mafia, speed gains are almost nothing on ppc i think. Since gcc for the g4's is not too stable above 02 anyway11:21
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iMeXdiAChmm well im on a g3 ..11:21
bluewheelg3 is pretty much base ppc which is what most .debs would be anyway11:21
bluewheelno point as far as i can see it11:21
iMeXdiACwell my point was to take a peek at gentoo ..11:22
iMeXdiACas im a comp science stud11:22
bluewheelbut then i could be wrong and it could be the greatest thing in the world but then do i need an optimised version of ls ?11:22
linux_mafiabluewheel, yeah and although many packages on debian/ubuntu are made for the lowest common denominator, the devs do use flags etc that give improvements when making packages11:23
bluewheelyea i am a comp sci student too, but i'd rather do something with my computer than watch it compile stuff :-)11:23
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bluewheelkinda like watching static on TV as far as i am concerned :-)11:23
iMeXdiAChmm .. well .. it wasnt my main machine then ..11:23
iMeXdiACso i wouldnt watch gcc compile the whole day11:24
bluewheeloh yea it would be fun to do once, just to say you did :-)11:24
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bluewheelit's kinda like doing rm -rf / as root, ever comp sci person should do it once, more than that if they want but once is enough :-)11:25
linux_mafiabluewheel, plus i read about one of the ubuntu devs showing the gentoo devs about how to compile something "specially", that they didnt even know about, heh11:25
Agrajaglearning gentoo to help you in CS is like watching Cops to make you a better police officer11:25
jiyuu0linux_mafia, just found nice feature in evo "threaded message list"11:25
iMeXdiACanyway i got the ubuntu image and made a fresh install .. was around a week ago11:25
jiyuu0that's something thunderbird doesn't have11:25
Agrajaggentoo doesn't teach you anything other than how to run emerge11:25
linux_mafiajiyuu0, yep i use that, good aye, perfect for my mailing lists11:26
jiyuu0now i found a reason to use mailing list11:26
jiyuu0i always hated em... unsorted.. hard to read11:26
jiyuu0that's a plus point for evo11:27
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iMeXdiACrm -rf / doesnt work that efficient .. rm -rf /* would be a bit better .. but not sure ..11:28
iMeXdiACas i just tried it some time ago ..11:29
davmor2bob2 are you about11:29
ctdrm -rf /'s are best done in UMLs.11:29
bluewheellinux_mafia, everytime i convince myself gentoo is better than debian i think how long it would take to install and debian wins again11:29
ctdThat's how I did mine.11:29
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Syneki've recalled myself "Gentoo is rice" ;-)11:30
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crimsuniMeXdiAC: um, what's the difference between / and /* with `rm -rf' ? :)11:30
crimsunmoin Tsjoklat11:30
Tsjoklatcrimsun :)11:31
davmor2can anyone help I have a problem trying to unpack an iso any apps to help or plain english man page? it says it isn't iso 966011:31
davmor2yet the second disc burnt fine11:32
crimsundavmor2: you don't unpack an iso; you mount it using a loopback device11:32
davmor2how? crimsun11:32
crimsundavmor2: mount -t loop foo.iso /somemountpoint11:32
crimsun-o loop11:32
crimsunnot -t11:32
mgedminrm -rf /* will not remove files in / that start with a dot11:33
iMeXdiACcrimsun somehow rm -rf doesnt descend in all directories with the / alone resp wants to remove / and not the contents of / as it would with /*11:33
mgedmindon't know how useful that is ;)11:33
davmor2is the loop command already in warty or do i need to dl it11:33
bob2davmor2: ?11:33
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crimsundavmor2: it's built into mount(8) and the kernel11:34
crimsundavmor2: you don't need anything extra11:34
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davmor2thanx a lot I'll try that11:34
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crimsuniMeXdiAC: the corner case is as mgedmin described.~11:36
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iMeXdiAChmm .. how about rm -rf /* /.*   -- as im quite sure as i only used the / it didnt really work on all files11:39
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crimsunwill remove / recursively, but /* /.* will require a rmdir / afterward to achieve the same11:40
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bob2if you're deleting a directory, just give the directory name, with no * on the end at all11:41
Tsjoklathey bob211:42
crimsunyeah my leading '/' was eaten by irssi because I forgot to use / /11:42
Gmailbob2: you mist the trolls in here11:42
TsjoklatGmail what do you mean.. you are still in here11:43
iMeXdiAChmm .. but isnt the / alone a special case as its the main entry point .. or not11:43
bob2Tsjoklat: hola.  made it back in one piece?11:43
Tsjoklatbob2 still breathing :)11:44
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iMeXdiAChmm what is then a better expl that rm -rf / doesnt work that well ..11:45
crimsuniMeXdiAC: a simple / is the most effective11:45
crimsun(and hence the most dangerous)11:45
iMeXdiACwell i issued this command once .. and the harddrive wasnt empty after that as i recall ..11:46
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linux_mafiaGmail, what trolls?11:46
iMeXdiACbut its hair splitting prolly ;)11:47
Gmaillinux_mafia: you mist them probbly11:47
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Gmailsomeone flooded Gmail: join bla bla with bla bla being repeated 100 times11:48
TsjoklatGmail take it to offtopic11:48
Tsjoklatnobody cares11:48
Gmaili banned from offtopic11:48
Gmailthis is why bob2 you need to unabn me11:48
Tsjoklatthen start your own channel: Gmail11:48
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bob2Gmail: 'unabn'?11:49
danielsGmail: if we are awake, we are going to be monitoring the channel.  putting 'staffers please monitor this channel' in the topic is pointless and incredibly annoying.  don't do it.11:50
danielsGmail: and whining about #ubuntu-offtopic in here is also offtopic for #ubuntu.  i've asked you many, many times to stop it, but it appears you are unable to respect that.11:50
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iMeXdiACanyhow .. the reason im here is because the standard wardog install got me a nice working gnome 2.8 but on my g3 the screensaver looks up the machine as some openGL savers get loaded and i didnt find a comment about that with google .. it maybe the gl or the drm components i guess and only an issue with my aty128 as i would prbly just need to get a newer kernel hence upgrading to hoary ..11:53
danielsyeah, we've fixed it in hoary, but we aren't really doing non-security updates to warty, sorry11:53
iMeXdiACahh thx :))11:54
Tsjoklatbig differance a few weeks.. hoary looks fabio!11:54
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Gmailbob2: unban11:59
Gmaildaniels: just give me one wack in the head and i'll neave do stupid stuff again12:00
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bob2Gmail: you've had many 'wacks in the head'12:07
Gmailbob2: no only one when i was 8 days old12:08
netduriirc (osnews.com), mono (vm) will be included per default in next release! true?12:09
TreenaksGmail: don't forget you were dropped on your head when you were a kid12:09
GmailTreenaks: dropped on head == wacked12:09
TreenaksGmail: no wacked = hit in the head hard with a blunt object12:10
Gmailbecause when someone drops you the are really wacking you using the floor12:10
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TreenaksGmail: let's talk about this in #123, OK?12:11
Gmailhow about #ubuntu-offtopic12:11
TreenaksGmail: you can't enter there, so let's try #12312:11
Gmailbut --- Cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned).12:11
Treenaksor #nonsense12:11
TreenaksGmail: anyway12:12
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Gmailthe channel is friken +m w/o an op to voice anyone12:13
danielsguys, please take it to another channel, or /msg.  i really don't care, and it doesn't belong in #ubuntu.12:13
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Gmaildaniels: then unban me from #ubuntu-offtopic because there is no where else to talk about it12:13
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daniels(as I was in the middle of asking him to come back in a week and cool off in the meantime, he left anyway)12:15
ctdHe's somewhere from Sydney/NSW which is scary.12:17
Synekbah. another "my kung-fu is better than yours"12:18
linux_mafiadaniels,  damn, he must have been a pita, you and jdub, etc, are some of the most (probably, the most) patient dudes ive ever seen in a help channel12:18
Syneklinux_mafia: true indeed ;)12:19
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tswHi I was wondering does the default ubuntu install support laptops powersaving options?12:29
gnarvaezhi, is anyone in Mataro?12:29
neoxedany one know a easy way to fix synaptic package manager12:29
CyberjamesMataro location?12:29
bob2gnarvaez: lots of people are12:30
gnarvaez[I should state for the record that I am an anthropologist doing research...] 12:30
bob2neoxed: how did you break it?12:30
bob2tsw: yes12:30
hazza96i am trying to install Warty and am getting a "failed getting release file /cdrom/dists//Release" message12:30
gnarvaezI am curious as to how many people are there and what is the general atmosphere of the meetings12:30
neoxeddunno it gives me errors when it trys to finsh installing packages12:30
tswbob2: great, how about hibernate?12:31
hazza96I checked the forums and nothing, I checked the CD and it doesn't have that dir12:31
bob2tsw: depends on your hardware12:31
bob2gnarvaez: there's ~30 people in this room at the moment, and the mood is...interested12:32
tswbob2: ok thanks Ill inform how it went as soon as I get the install done on a ibm (390x pretty old) :)12:32
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hazza96bob2: what room are you talking about?12:32
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bob2hazza96: bof12:33
hazza96can anyone help me?12:33
gnarvaezInteresting? That has a number of meanings.12:33
bob2gnarvaez: yes it does.12:33
tswsomekind of meeting going on? :)12:33
bob2tsw: yes, the ubuntu conference in mataro12:33
ctdPick which meaning you prefer ;p12:33
tswhmm where is mataro?12:34
JanCtsw: near Barcelona12:34
bob2tsw: spain, near barcelona12:34
gnarvaezI just happen to find out about ubuntu... and I am impressed by what the webpage says (statement of purpose)12:34
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hazza96I can't install it :(12:34
santagadahas anyone besides me, used smart? http://www.smartpm.org/12:34
tswsounds great :)12:35
bob2hazza96: try asking on the user list12:35
StylosHi! Can someone help me with installing Cedega 4.2 on Ubuntu12:35
santagadaI think it would be great if hoary used it to do package management12:35
hazza96what userlist?12:35
gnarvaezbut I am curious as to how the participants (both at the conf. and virtual...) feel about the ubuntu in relation to other linux projects.12:35
gnarvaezWhat makes this one different?12:35
bob2hazza96: lists.ubuntu.com12:36
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hazza96ok this time the install did not have problems detecting my CDROM, so maybe it will behave12:36
Stylos Hi! Can someone help me with installing Cedega 4.2?12:36
hazza96Stylos: we heard the first time12:37
bob2Stylos: transgaming doesn't provide support?12:37
Stylosbob2 Well i dont find my problem on they faq12:38
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StylosWhen i try use it it gives only error12:38
bob2Stylos: transgaming takes your money but don't help you set it up on your system?12:39
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hazza96my install of warty is going to plan this time12:40
gnarvaez[it does not sound like it is the right time to ask questions... I do wish I was there since I am in East Timor doing research... some of the people doing tech consulting are interested in finding an installation that is not too difficult to install, and this one is, by far, one of the easiest ones to install... even on a Toshiba laptop] 12:41
crimsungnarvaez: other Linux projects generally?12:42
gnarvaezothers I tried?12:43
crimsungnarvaez: are you referring to Linux distributions or other open source projects?12:43
gnarvaezGentoo, Fedora (2 and 3), Mandrake 10.1... could not get any of them to install on my laptop12:44
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gnarvaezthis Toshiba is not an easy one to get going on Linux, but now I am quite happy with it.12:45
Emanuelezgnarvaez: does knoppix work on that?12:45
gnarvaezhave not tried it. (I am in East Timor at the moment and do not have a high speed connection... dsl in the office is only about 120kbs)12:46
danielsgnarvaez: which other Linux projects do you mean?12:47
danielsgnarvaez: we currently integrate pretty deeply with GNOME and Debian, obviously12:47
crimsunI think you'll find the common denominators for using Ubuntu are the ease of installation across a variety of hardware, the clear mandate for using Debian (an established base) as a development branch with clearcut biannual deliverables to the end user, and the strong community-oriented support.12:47
gnarvaezjust the ones I listed. I like ubuntu (though only been using it for a few days) so I will try it out on some older Windows machines12:48
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bob2gnarvaez: asking on the list would probably be a better idea, but the web site does go into a fair amount of detail on this12:48
gnarvaezWe pretty much hit the roof with all the XP problems12:48
linux_mafiagnarvaez, are you timorese? or just there?12:50
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gnarvaezAnyway, I do not mean to hog the channel. My research is on the use of open source solutions in peripheral countries (or third world, etc.) East Timor is as out of the way as you can get.12:50
danielsgnarvaez: ah, sorry, I'm curious what you mean by 'but I am curious as to how to the participants [...]  feel about the ubuntu in relation to other linux projects'12:50
danielsgnarvaez: not at all -- one of the major things we aim to do is to stomp right all over the digital divide12:51
gnarvaezI am an anthropologist (and former engineer) from California. I am doing my phd at UC Irvine12:51
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hazza96 gnarvaez: East Timor is not that far, it is just up the road from me12:51
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gnarvaezwhere are you?12:52
linux_mafiagnarvaez, ok, just i was gonna throw in a "Viva Xanana Gusmao!"12:52
danielsgnarvaez: there seem to be a number of Australians in this channel12:52
gnarvaezand unless you are on the island, the roads are best done on boat or plane12:52
hazza96ok I can't drive there but it isn't that far, US would take longer12:53
gnarvaezah yes, and there are plenty of aussies here... (ok, and Melborne Bitter is what keeps us/them sane)12:53
hazza96yuck, MB would send me mad12:53
bob2better than budweiser.12:54
crimsunanything is better than budweiser.12:54
gnarvaezquite true! and when it is hot, which it is here, most anything will do.12:54
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hazza96what alcohol % is budweiser?12:55
gnarvaezAnyway, I reside in a small ngo. but have been talking with some UNDP people regarding OS policies at different institutions.12:55
santagadaAnyone has had any interest in this(http://www.smart.org/) new package manager?12:56
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xaredoes anybody have experience in installing gmailfs in ubuntu12:56
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hazza96what is gmailfs?12:57
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ctdthink for a moment.. GMail 1gb storage... fs (filesystem) ;-)12:57
linux_mafiaxare, not yet, had it going in fedora, just doing it now actually, how you getting on?12:58
JanCuserspace filesystem that abuses a gmail account as a 1 GiB drive12:58
xarethe file system than can be mounted using the memory space (1Gbyte) provided by google mail12:58
ctdJanC: Good description12:58
hazza96wow, how do I do that?12:58
JanCis written in Python12:58
gnarvaezmost use Windows, but maintaining the systems is a nightmare. Some of us are trying to put a demonstration system to see how linux might be preferable to use. So far I have set up a laptop and (ok, my main machine is a powerbook 12") vpc instalation on a mac.12:58
Moon-Monkeyhello people, does any1 know how i can retrieve files, such as music, from windows when using ubuntu linux?12:58
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xarelinux_mafia, I have mounted it12:58
linux_mafiait was so slow it seemed pointless, and i have a decent net connection12:58
xarecan access it via shell12:59
xarebut not via gnome12:59
xareThe problem is that it needs to change things on the kernel12:59
santagadaMoon-Monkey, you can use nfs captive, but I am still searching for it...12:59
xareas the gmailfs type is not supported by the kernel01:00
JanCMoon-Monkey: on the same PC ?01:00
Moon-Monkeyyes, on the same pc01:00
JanCyou can mount an NTFS partition read-only or a FAT32 partition r/w01:01
xaremoonmonkey you need to edit your /etc/fstab file01:01
xareas root user01:01
xareThis worked for me01:02
xare/dev/hda1      /mnt/windowsvfatdefaults,user0001:02
xarebut check where your windows partition is01:02
xareand create an /mnt/windows directory before hand01:02
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santagada/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,user,umask=0222 0    001:02
santagadaif you are using ntfs01:03
santagadabut first you have to create the /mnt/windows dir with mkdir01:03
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davmor2I've just tried to mount loop an iso image and it is coming up wrong fstype has anyone any ideas on how i can access this iso01:15
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crimsunsudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop foo.iso /somemountpoint01:16
davmor2what is the foo.iso section01:17
crimsunthe name of the iso image01:17
davmor2okay I'll try it thanx01:17
hazza96davmor2: you haven't heard foo used as a generic name that you replace with your specific name?01:18
davmor2crimsun mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,01:23
davmor2       or too many mounted file systems01:23
davmor2       (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use01:23
davmor2       ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?) is the message I got01:23
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davmor2any ideas01:25
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maliksHi For reasons unknown I have lost my Ubuntu CDs but I still have the ISO so I extracted the ISO to my home folder /home/foo ! now how do I add this as a repo in SYNAPTIC01:26
crimsundavmor2: what does file(1) tell you about the iso file?01:26
maliksFor reasons unknown I have lost my Ubuntu CDs but I still have the ISO so I extracted the ISO to my home folder /home/foo ! now how do I add this as a repo in SYNAPTIC01:28
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maliksFor reasons unknown I have lost my Ubuntu CDs but I still have the ISO so I extracted the ISO to my home folder /home/foo ! now how do I add this as a repo in SYNAPTIC01:28
bob2maliks: please dtop flooding01:28
BockBilbohello back01:28
crimsundavmor2: and you're sure the file you downloaded is not corrupt and is in .iso format?01:28
bob2maliks: edit /etc/apt/sources.list, add line like this: deb file:///path/to/where/you/extracted/it/ ./01:29
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davmor2it might be this was why I wondered if the data was extractable01:29
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davmor2but it is definatly .iso01:30
Simiraah, great01:31
Simiraseb128: how to I delete all my contacts from evolution?01:31
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seb128Simira, rm ~/.evolution/addressbook/local/system/addressbook.db ?01:32
Simiraah, ok01:32
hazza96How big are all the updates to warty? I just installed it and now it is taking forever to do the updates on my 512 ADSL01:34
stvnabout half an hour download on 512kbit01:34
stvnat least that was for me01:34
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hazza96thanks, I will go get some coffee01:40
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kentis it possible to make evolution handle hotmail-accounts in some way?01:45
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BockBilboive deleted the hostname of the system...01:55
ryanreset it?01:55
BockBilbohow do i do that01:56
trukulotry: sudo hostname name-of-system-you-want01:56
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intinigI like the new menus in hoary01:56
BockBilboive f**k up the system:S01:58
afonitI wish the shortcut key for menu, would bring up all three, but instead it only brings up 'applications' menu, so I have to leave it on my bar01:58
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linux_mafiakent, oooh hotmail, you want a gmail invite?02:03
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linux_mafiakent, otherwise, install gotmail02:05
SimiraI get more span om gmail than on hotmail...02:06
linux_mafiai get no spam at all, on any of my email accounts02:06
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JanCI get no spam on hotmail02:07
JanC(don't have a hotmail account)02:07
ctdIt's called spamassassin.02:07
ctdUse it.02:07
linux_mafiai always thought it was funny that hotmail was running on fbsd for a while02:08
ctdlinux_mafia: hotmail wasn't always owned by microsoft.02:08
JanClinux_mafia: it's still running on freebsd for some parts02:08
linux_mafiactd, oh ok, i wasnt aware of that02:09
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linux_mafiactd, actually yes i was, wasnt a startup by some guy, and they bought it off him for squillions at the height of its popularity02:10
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JanChotmail was started by an Indian student in the US IIRC02:10
VerTiCalHurray! ^_^02:10
VerTiCalJust got my Ubuntu-CDs :-)02:10
linux_mafiaJanC, yeah thats the one02:10
ctdWho cares who started it.02:10
VerTiCalLauren is a spammer, by the way.02:10
linux_mafiaus, thats why were discussing it02:11
ctdFact is, nowa days it's just used by 13-yo teeny boppers who get new email addresses every second week.02:11
afonitvERtIcAL: I just got mine aswell, it is so nice.02:11
JanCVerTiCal : still waiting  :-(02:11
ctdLike randomobscureLoL-2004@hotmail.com02:11
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danielsVerTiCal: based on?02:12
danielsah, got it, thanks02:12
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daniels(she was rather slow to spam me)02:12
linux_mafiayeah, i got mine a couple of weeks back, wish id ordered more, gave them all away, people were loving them02:12
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danielsctd-goslar: onjoin02:15
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kentlinux_mafia, sorry for not responding. Its my brother who have a hotmail account. He dont want to fiddle with scripts, he just wants to use evolution like outlook, and not change to another pop-acount.  I figure its impossible right now? :(02:16
ctdah hah02:16
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xcasexwhat happened to the ppc mono builds?02:16
hazza96what was the spam about?, how come I didn't get one?02:17
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JanCkent: hotwayd is a local mail proxy that makes hotmail available as a POP3 account in your mail client02:18
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linux_mafiakent, gotmail looks pretty bloody simple to me02:29
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hazza96hey my install is finished downloading the updates02:41
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xlinux_After I upgrade to hoary I'm getting an error at boot that says temporary fail contacting nameserver and I don't know why cause in warty it was all OK.02:42
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mjrthat must be because hoary is the unstable development version02:43
kensaimjr, I know and I have used it before02:44
kensaiI just get that error now02:44
kensaiGuess I'll have to wait for final release of hoary then02:44
kensaiuptime -o02:45
kensaidamn it failed lol02:45
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xcasexso, ubuntu ppc, mono, bork, suggestions?02:51
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JanCanyone know if Ubuntu will be present at fosdem 2005 ?02:54
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hazza96how long does it take for something like Firefox 1.0 to be in the repositry's?02:59
hnsdeb hazza96 : firefox cabn be found in the backports: http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ubuntu warty-backports main universe03:01
sladenhazza96: it's in hoary.  Hoary comes out in April.  It was in Warty, but it was buggy and switched back to 0.9.3 as it wasn't stable.03:02
hazza96ok I use Mozilla anyway i was just curious03:02
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=== sid77 hi
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sid77?_? lol?03:09
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RESETrmmod bttv03:14
RESETERROR: Module bttv is in use by bt87803:14
RESETproblem :(03:14
RESETmy tv tuner03:15
mjg59RESET: Why is that a problem?03:15
hazza96is there any chance of the downloading of debs be switched to BitTorrent?03:15
hazza96I love BT is uses MD5 as it downloads03:15
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kerberosalguien sabe como grabar dvd con ubuntu 4.10??03:16
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jordikerberos: #ubuntues03:17
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TenPlus1hi folks...03:18
TenPlus1can someone help me with a command line problem... am trying to change screen-resolution at prompt and dunno how ???03:18
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mjg59TenPlus1: In X or on the console?03:20
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cparkHi all...I've got a quick question. Is there anyway to setup the omni print drivers on Ubuntu? I want to print to an IBM Network24 via a CUPS server, but I don't have the Network24 drivers.03:20
TenPlus1I booted Ubuntu into safe mode and am trying to change screen res there before X starts03:20
RESETapt-get install bttv03:20
RESETLettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto03:20
RESETGenerazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto03:20
RESETE: Impossibile trovare bttv03:20
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bpd1069gooooood mornin' all03:21
mjg59TenPlus1: You want to change X's screen resolution?03:21
mjg59dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8603:21
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RESEThow install bttv03:21
TenPlus1mjg59: yep...03:21
TenPlus1will try, thx03:21
sid77RESET, you shouldn't paste italian error here ;)03:21
mjg59reformed: modprobe bttv03:21
RESETok sorry03:21
mjg59RESET: modprobe bttv03:21
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mjg59But it should be loaded automatically03:22
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Moon-Monkeyhey peeps, how do i retrieve files from Windows when using linux?03:22
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wezzermount a windows partititon to ubuntu03:23
thenukemount the windows partition with mount command03:23
wezzeris it FAT or ntfs?03:23
thenukemount /dev/hda2 /mnt/windows  for example03:23
wezzermkdir /mnt/windows03:23
wezzermount -t ntfs /dev/hdX /mnt/windows/03:23
RESETmy tv tuner dont work damn03:23
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wezzerremember to put right letter to that /dev/hdX <- X = a,b,c,d etc...03:24
CapNemohello :) where i can find on the web the current list of packages in ubuntu ??03:24
bpd1069quick question: how do I keep my cat from climbing up the curtains?  apt-get install waterbottle?03:24
thenukeno need for -T as far as I have seen03:24
mjg59RESET: In what way does it not work?03:24
Moon-Monkeyok, thnx mate, ill give it a try03:24
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RESETdon't tune the channels03:25
wezzerthenuke: okay, I'm not sure about that03:25
cparkIs there anyway to setup the omni print drivers on Ubuntu? I want to print to an IBM Network24 via a CUPS server, but I don't have the Network24 drivers.03:26
thenukewezzer: I have never used that -T ;)03:26
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wezzerand I've used it always ;)03:26
TenPlus1Does anyone have a SoundMAX Integral sound-card that works on Ubuntu somehow ?03:29
Moon-Monkeywezzer: when using that command line on hda1 i get a message saying that i dont have permission to view the contents03:29
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Moon-Monkeyanyone know why i am getting the message "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "windows"." when trying to access the files of my mounted harddisc?03:32
sid77_you should umask it while mounting03:32
sid77_try umounting /mnt/windows03:33
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sid77_then mount it again passing "-o umask=000" without the quotes03:33
Moon-Monkeyhow do i unmount it?03:33
wezzerumm, I'd use sudo in that case03:33
thekoreif there are any devs here, thanks for ubuntu. It works with my wireless card :) now im going to try and dual boot the ppc version with OSX. Thanks again, you dont know how great this is :D03:34
sid77_umount /mnt/windows03:34
wezzerI mean, opening nautilus for example: sudo nautilus /mnt/windows03:34
sid77_or do as wezzer suggest, should also work03:34
Moon-Monkeyok, ill try03:34
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Moon-Monkeyok, nice :) it worked03:35
bpd1069debating whether to install hoary, is there a document listing known issues with Hoary?03:36
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bpd1069nevermind, found all the info i needed...03:42
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neo2kdoes ubuntu use 2.6-kernels ???03:44
wezzercaps was on03:45
neo2kwhat about xorg ?03:45
wezzer2.6.8.1 actually03:45
neo2kxorg or xfree ?03:45
neo2kdamn :(03:45
neo2kim trying it out right now :) used to gentoo03:45
wezzerbut if you upgrade to hoary (I don't recommend) you get xorg03:45
bob2the development version of ubuntu uses x.org03:46
wezzerhoary = development of ubuntu03:46
neo2khmn... oki, is it stable enough ?03:46
Tychein the hoary install would it have changed the Actions button to not have the shortcut to home? and disks?03:46
wezzerI've heard it works quite ok03:46
TycheWhat is Xorg?03:46
bob2Tyche: it's a change in gnome upstream that will be changed back seen03:47
wezzerbut of course there might be some bugs03:47
neo2kan GPL-version of xfree :)03:47
bob2Tyche: www.x.org, a fork of xfree8603:47
bob2neo2k: no03:47
danielsneo2k: it is not GPL.  none of X is, or ever will be.03:47
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neo2kheh, sorry then03:47
neo2kwhy not just use xfree then ? what license is xorg ?03:47
Tychebob2: Th anks for the info.03:48
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Moon-Monkeyok, so i used   mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/windows -o umask=000    but i can't use any files at all, except for image files... anyone know what im doing wrong?03:48
bpd1069is hdb1 your only NTFS partition?03:49
TycheI just installed Ubuntu on a P3800 with on onboard video card and I have vertical lines spaced about an inch or so apart all the way acrossed the screen. Any suggestions?03:50
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Moon-Monkeyim not sure, but that is the one that i am trying to access anyhow03:50
neo2kwezzer: when is a new version of ubuntu out ? approximately03:51
bpd1069well do you just have a C: drive when in windows?03:51
intinig_why doesn't mysql listen for connections from outside localhost?03:51
Moon-Monkeyoh, no... i have 2 partitions when in windows03:51
wezzerneo2k: I don't know. Somebody said that before April03:52
wezzerbut I really don't know03:52
Moon-Monkeythe one im trying to access is ntfs, but im not sure about the other03:52
bpd1069i bet the drive you need is not mounted,... just a hunch03:52
neo2kthanks anyway :)03:52
neo2kthanks all for your help, gotta go :)03:52
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Moon-Monkeywell, when i mount it, i get full access to look aroung in the partition, but i can't play any audio or video files03:53
Moon-Monkeynor can i extract rar files, and so on...03:53
bpd1069not sure which command will show you unmounted partions...  but I would assume hdb1 is your drive with just images...03:53
_RESETsomeone use tv tuner under ubuntu?03:53
wezzerMoon-Monkey: remember, that writing to ntfs is _NOT_ good idea03:54
bpd1069Moon-Monkey: : NTFS is mounted as read only (for a good reason) justcopy the files over if you want to manipulate03:54
wezzerI always copy the files I need to ext3 partition and after that do all the unrar and so on stuff03:54
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Moon-Monkeywell, that is exactly what i can't do, i can't copy any of the files to other directories03:54
wezzerMoon-Monkey: are you using nautilus?03:55
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omalleyintinig_: it may be the user you're connecting as is restricted to connecting from localhost03:55
Tyche_RESET: No sorry, no TV Tuner here. interested in getting one though. Not working at all?03:55
Moon-Monkeyno, not now, but i got the same problem when using that03:55
wezzerMoon-Monkey: Nautilus didn03:55
wezzer't work for me03:55
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wezzerI copied stuff like this: sudo cp  /mnt/win2k/Folder/foo.bar /home/wezzer/03:56
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wezzerthat should work03:56
intinig_omalley, I granted permission to user.%03:56
wezzerremember that only root got access to these files03:56
wezzerso chown Moon-Monkey foo.bar have to be done03:57
intinig_omalley, and reloaded the grant tables but I get an error 111 as though the server isn't listening at all to foreign connections03:57
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Moon-Monkeyhow do i become root?03:57
Moon-Monkey(im a noob at this)03:57
wezzersudo su root03:58
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wezzeror If you need to perform just a small command, you can write sudo command_you_want03:58
bpd1069i have this in my /etc/fstab: to mount my ntfs partion... notice the uid=1000:   /dev/hda1       /mnt/xp         ntfs    defaults,auto,uid=1000 0 003:58
sid77Moon-Monkey, usually with the command "su root", in ubuntu you can try with "sudo su root" or "sudo -s"03:58
wezzerso, for example sudo chown Moon-Monkey foo.bar would be correct03:58
Moon-Monkeyok, ill give it a whirl...03:59
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omalleyintinig_: does netstat -tupan show mysql listening on port 3306?04:01
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intinig_omalley, no it isn't listening04:02
intinig_but on localhost it works fine04:02
ivarq: if plugging in a usb backpack were to work, where on the filesystem would I find it mounted ?04:03
omalleyintinig_: must be a setting in your my.cnf04:04
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intinig_omalley, I'll go look04:04
intinig_but it's default ubuntu04:04
omalleyah, look for a skip-networking option04:04
omalleycomment it out and restart mysql04:05
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TycheIs there another GUI file manager besides Nautilus?04:06
TycheSomething like Windows Explorer?04:06
Tyche<apologizes for using the *W word"04:06
Keybuknautilus has a "browser mode", is that what you're after?04:06
TycheKeybuk: Sure, I will try it. But for some reason, when I 'run application' nautilus isn't loading.04:07
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Moon-Monkeywezzer: what command must i use to become root?04:10
Moon-Monkeysudo su root04:11
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wezzersudo su root04:12
intinig_omalley, it was that option04:15
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omalleyintinig_: sweet04:17
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cparkDoes anyone have any idea how I might go about getting the omni print drivers on my Ubuntu box?04:23
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arctickgnome is screwed up for me, i wiped out my home dir, and created another on another drive. now when i start i get a GConf error: no database available to save your configuration... can anyone help with this?04:26
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farruinnarctick, maybe try making a directory in your home folder called .gconf04:27
farruinnseems silly to me though that gconf wouldn't make its own if there wasn04:28
farruinn't one there already04:28
arctickive got one04:28
arcticknothing in it though04:28
farruinnis that other drive being mounted at /home though?04:28
arctickmy /etc/gconf/2/path seems fine04:28
farruinnor /home/<user> if the entire drive is being used as just your home folder04:29
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arctickits the / drive, with a dir in it called /home04:29
wezzerany news about ubuntu cd's ?04:29
farruinnI don't think I am understanding you correctly.  Do you have two drives? One for / and one for /home?04:29
arctickit says the problem could be nfs file locking dosnt work in my $HOME but i dont know how to check that04:29
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arctickalso gives other possible causes that i have two gconfd processes (i only have 1) , or my NFS client machine crached (i dont know what NFS even is)04:31
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farruinnnfs is network filesystem iirc04:32
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farruinnbut I doubt that you're using it.  I think you'd know what nfs is if you were using it =)04:32
omalleyis your user entry in /etc/passwd pointing to the right location for your new homedir?04:32
arctickyeah, not using a networked filesystem04:32
arctickyeah. the path to my home is the same, its just on a different partition now04:33
farruinnarctick, ok, did you modify /etc/fstab?04:34
arctickit must be something i'm missing that was in ~/.gconf04:34
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arctickyeah i modified fstab and removed the /home partition, which is now just a subdir of /04:34
arctickthe only dir that changed was /home/user, the problem was when i did a cp -r * to back it all up it didnt copy the .directories04:35
_RESETvbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] 04:36
_RESETopen /dev/vbi: No such file or directory04:36
farruinnarctick, do you have any other window managers installed that you could enter and run gconf?04:37
farruinnI don't know if that would fix it or not04:37
arctickwell gnome actually starts, im in gnome now, its just the panel that wont run. gconfd-2 is running. is gconf another program, its not in /usr/bin i can see04:39
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farruinnI'm sorry, it's gconf-editor04:40
squeegyand for future reference when copying the entire contents of a dir, use cp -a04:40
HcEtar is also good for moving filesystems =)04:40
arctickthanks, anything in paticular im lookingfor in gconf-editor?04:41
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arcticki've another question too thats kind of related. after i made the dir /home/user it was owned by root, so i changed it with chown. now when i do an ls -l it says " drwxr-xr-x   42 user     root         2488 2004-12-13 10:23 user", whats the root in there refering too?04:43
stvnah ok04:43
omalleyroot is the group owner04:43
omalleyyou should chgrp it as well04:43
stvnor chown user:user04:44
arctickalright, maybe that will fix it. im going to restart x now. thanks for the tips everyone04:44
wezzerdamn it! yesterday cinelerra opened my videos correctly and now it can't find codec.04:45
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richard_hi there04:45
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richard_i am trying to mount a ntfs partition with read/write support, can you help me with this?04:45
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wezzerI suggest you to NOT to do it04:46
arctickno luck :(04:46
wezzerwriting to ntfs is pretty unstable04:46
richard_hm, damn, thought there is a stable way to do this04:47
stvnrichard_: reformat it to vfat ;)04:47
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richard_and loose my whole music collection? (-:04:47
fulviooyeah. if you really need fat32 can be an option04:47
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stvnoh but you copy it again from your cds right? :P04:48
stvnrichard_: but if you want to access the music collection, read only is an option, right?04:48
stvnor get another computer put a big disk in it, install ubuntu and let it be the fileserver -my solution04:49
richard_right, ok, then I have the next problem, i get only access to it with the root user04:49
fulvioocheck fstab04:49
richard_/dev/sda1       /mnt/jukebox    ntfs    ro,user,noauto,fmask=0666,dmask=0666 0 004:50
stvnrichard_: check your fstab, mine has /dev/hda2       /mnt/winxp      ntfs    ro,defaults,user,uid=1000,gid=100004:50
richard_great, works!04:50
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farruinnI set uid=1000,gid=1000 for a *nix filesystem but it messed up my permissions on that filesystem04:51
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farruinnwil fmask and dmask work better for that?04:51
bob2don't do that04:52
richard_thanks for your kind help, bye04:52
bob2just set it on the actual filesystem04:52
farruinnhow do you mean "set it"?04:52
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bob2chmod and chown.04:53
farruinnwell I've fixed the filesystem04:53
farruinnbut I mean for future mounts04:53
arctickso NFS file locking cant be a problem if i dont use NFS right?>04:54
farruinnbecause this other filesystem is a *nix install, so I can't have every file I look at get changed to my linux user:group04:54
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arctickdoes then ubuntu cd have a "repair installation" type install that will reinstall all the important stuff and let me make a new user account that will work with gnome without removing all my media files04:56
arctickall i really need is a new user account04:56
stvnhm laptop van 905gram04:56
trans_errarctick, next time you install you should make a sepperate /home04:56
zenwhenit solved a lot of issues04:57
arcticki did have a seperate /home, but i made it too small so i moved it to the / which was only at like 5% usage04:57
trans_errarctick, so organize better next time... back up reformat and make things right04:57
arctickand thus my problems ensued04:57
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farruinnyou've already wiped the old /home partition I take it?04:58
arcticktoo much to back up and no where to put it04:58
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trans_errarctick, find a friend :D04:58
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arctickyeah, all the contents are preserved except the .hidden stuff04:58
trans_errarctick, you could look into using parted04:59
trans_errarctick, but resizing partitions is risky04:59
arcticki suppose i could pull the drive out of my other machine, it might have enough space04:59
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stvnarctick: tried moving your user dir to user2 and create an empty user dir?05:00
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stvnarctick: reboot and you have to setup everything again but AFAIK it'll fill the empty dir nicely05:01
stvnarctick: once you have a fully running system you canretrieve thestuff you wantfrom ~user205:02
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stvnlinux prefers an empty userdir over one that's full ofbroken conf files05:03
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CapNemobtw, when was founded ubuntu ??05:10
arctickthats actually what i did, i copied /home/user to /user; rmoved /home/user; removed the partition /home was on; created /home; copied /user to /home05:10
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arctickapparently you cant just create your home dir, it has to be created for you by the ubuntu instal, oddly05:11
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bob2CapNemo: the firest preview release was in september, people had been working on it for ~6 months before then05:11
stvnarctick: er.. no05:11
CapNemobob2, thx :)05:11
stvnarctick: you need to create an user and that will create an user-dir, but once a user is created an empty dir /should/ work although it will complain a lot the first time that it's empty05:12
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stvnarctick: important is that the user dir has the right permissions and ownership though05:13
stvnarctick: the problem is that you copied /user to /home/user05:13
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arctickwell the ownership is right now, what should the permissions be, i have drwrx-xr-xr05:14
arcticki must go now, thank you for all your help anyway05:14
thekoreis there a way (maybe apt-get) that i can install airsnort and kismet?05:15
stvnarctick: your original user directory is broken since it is missing the .files and .directories, ubuntu can create them, but not if the home dir does have all the other conf files05:15
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thekorei have no experience whatsoever of apt-get so im at a loss about it05:15
stvnthekore: they are linux programs?05:16
thekoreyes, kismet is a wireless scanner and airsnort is a encryption cracker05:16
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jlinareshi guys05:17
jlinareshere there is a user with problem in his modem  (he has an hp box)05:17
jlinareshas any hp user a moment to hear him? :)05:17
farruinnis it a laptop perhaps?05:18
jlinaresfarruinn: yap05:18
stvnthekore: ah ok, wasn't looking well05:18
trukulojlinares, me05:18
stvnthekore: you need to enable the universe repository05:18
farruinnubhuti binarydrivershowto05:18
ubhutifarruinn: I give up, what is it?05:18
trukulonx9005 concretely05:18
jlinarestrukulo: but you're not here, in Matar :)05:18
farruinnubhuti binarydriverhowto05:18
ubhutiI heard binarydriverhowto is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto05:18
trukulojlinares, that's true :)05:18
stvnthekore: use synaptic, you can then reload and search for airsnort05:18
trukuloi think you said on irc05:19
trukuloModem: ALi Corporation M5457 AC'97 Modem Controller05:19
thekorestvn, what you have just said made no sense to me sorry :( how do i enable the universe rep?05:19
kammequestion, my external hd doesn't want to be mounted anymore. It did work but now it doesn't anymore. When I try to mount it I get an error that /dev/sda1 doesn't exist05:19
stvnthekore: start synaptic05:19
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rjekI can't control the volume using the volume control applet.05:20
stvnthekore: then settings>>repositories and enable the two greyed ones05:20
stvnhey rjek05:20
rjekWhen I click on the driver icon, I get the slider appear, but when I click on it to drag, it just vanishes.05:20
rjekAnd when I click on it and use the arrow keys, it instantly returns to the previous setting.05:20
thekorestvn, i have 6 greyed ones05:20
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stvnrjek: warty or hoary?05:21
stvnthekore: oh, look for the one that says section universe05:21
=== rjek supposes he should do an update. I've not done one in a while.
rjekAlthough the control was working yesterday :)05:21
rjekhoary's not broken atm is it?  (ie, is it safe to update?)05:22
stvnthere's no other app playing with mixer settings?05:22
thekorestvn, ok, then reload?05:22
stvnthis morning update works fine for me05:22
rjekstvn: There's XMMS, but even quiting that doesn't help.05:22
stvnthekore: yeah the button, obviously05:22
thekorethanks :)05:23
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stvnrjek: but you didn't change anything since yesterday?05:24
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rjekstvn: Nope.05:24
thekorestvn, thanks its found kismet now :)05:24
stvnrjek: simple logic results in that it should work ;) tried to reduce your uptime to 0min?05:24
stvnthekore: np05:24
rjekstvn: Heh.05:25
rjekI've not, no.05:25
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rjekI'm mildly worried that the "smart update" suggests that it's going to remove aptitude and synaptic.05:26
rjekAs well as mono.05:26
rjekand fam.05:26
rjekAnd other bits that look important.05:26
stvnmono is not a problem, it's just meta05:26
stvnaptitude and synaptic are more worrysome05:26
farruinnand fam...05:26
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stvnrjek: use aptitude and put somemagic into it05:27
stvnhm that's this afternoon05:27
crispanyone know where i can get hole of uudecode?05:27
stvnrjek: should have updated this morning, everything was fine then05:27
stvnah leave apt at it's current version05:28
stvnI think the new apt is to blame05:28
rjekI'll play with that when I'm not hungry.05:28
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kammeso no info about the external hd not being able to mount?05:31
stvnkamme: sure it should be on sda1?05:32
kammepretty sure. It was mounted befor the reboot on sda1, I looked it up and then added it to /etc/fstab05:32
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stvnkamme: you added it? how did it mount before the reboot?05:33
kammewhen I plugged it in05:34
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bob2kamme: don't add it to fstab05:34
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kammeok, I commented it out05:35
stvnkamme: if is recognised automatically you don't need to edit thefstab05:35
kammeit won't mount automaticly now... :/05:36
stvnkamme: unplug and replug it05:36
kammeI did05:36
kammetried 2 ports05:36
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kammeI see disk activity when I plug it in but nothing happens05:37
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stvnkamme: did you change anything since the last time it worked (except the fstab)05:37
bob2kamme: are you using gnome?05:37
kammestvn, nope05:38
kammebob2, yes05:38
bob2kamme: are you using hoary?05:38
stvnlisten to bob2, i'm off home05:38
bob2did you reformat the disk recently?05:38
kammestvn, no warty05:39
kammebob2, nope...05:39
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kammebob2, so you have no idea what could be wrong?05:43
bob2try asking on the list05:43
kammethe list?05:43
bob2the user list05:43
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PhillW! 100% Free Wallpapers, Computing & Media News, Chat, Downloads and more at www.nitro-net.co.uk !05:44
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kammeok, i'll try05:44
kammethank you05:44
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moquistyikes!  I'm using Synaptic to upgrade Hoary; I've only used apt-get before.  Synaptic says it's going to uninstall aptitude, python-apt, synaptic, and ubuntu-base - and not one of those four is in the "To be upgraded" list or the "To be installed" list.  Can anyone explain what's going on?05:45
jdubmoquist: try doing it without smart upgrade05:45
linux_mafiajesus, someone seems to be getting banned everytime i come back in here05:46
moquistjdub: k, now the list looks sane.  I thought smart upgrade would be, well, smart.  Silly me.  :-p05:46
bob2spambots move in once you get popular05:47
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moquistjdub: thanks.  I'll have to re-read what Smart says it's doing.05:47
jdubmoquist: smart upgrade is the same as dist-upgrade with apt, it basically means "resolve me harder"05:48
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iMeXdiACi just made a distupgrade to hoary on an ibookg3 .. n now im on a non funct xorg comming from xfree .. silly me now wonders how to get this fixed as im on an irssi instance05:59
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iMeXdiACwas that a hint to have rather read the ubuntuguide before .. :?06:01
danielsiMeXdiAC: ah no, sorry, that was just tidying it a little06:02
danielsiMeXdiAC: grab the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines from /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and add them to the Monitor section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
danielsiMeXdiAC: i've already got a patch in my packages, will upload them tomorrow or such06:02
iMeXdiAC:) .. ll try06:03
raphaHey Ubuntu guys, where do you want patches for packages to go?06:03
danielsrapha: to the bugzilla, usually06:04
raphaOkay, thanks06:05
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=== rapha is just writing a patch for GAIM to _hide_ the goddamn window on startup.
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jmhodgesuh.. questoin06:07
jmhodgesin hoary, im getting told that synaptic wants to remove aptitude, synaptic and python-apt06:07
raphauh... yeah?06:07
jmhodgesin short, wtf?06:07
raphaLooks like everybody is asking this today.06:07
moquistjmhodges: did you do "Smart" upgrade?  Don't.  :)06:07
raphajmhodges: My solution is to wait it out.06:07
moquistjmhodges: I just did and asked the same thing.06:07
veransounds like a bad dependancy on a recent uploaded package06:08
raphamoquist: Problem is just if that's what you want.06:08
moquistrapha: well, yeah.  if that's what you want then it's a problem.06:08
verandon't upgrade, wait a day or so, then reload06:08
raphaDoes somebody want to put that into the topic?06:08
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jmhodgesheh, odd, i also no longer have the System Preferences in my Applications menu.. oh rapture :)06:09
raphajmhodges: Also wait a couple of days.06:10
jmhodgeshehe i figured :)06:10
veranbeta beta breaky breaky06:10
raphaJust out of interest: Poll: how many people here are also interested in a hide-GAIM-window-on-startup patch?06:11
iMeXdiACthanks a lot daniels :)) ..06:11
danielsiMeXdiAC: no worries06:12
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stvnrapha: me06:15
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raphaThen I'm not on this senselessly. :)06:16
raphastvn: Do you think it would have to be configurable through the preferences dialog?06:17
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stvnrapha: i wait for the list to appear and click on the notification area icon06:17
raphaYeah, me too...06:17
stvnrapha: yeah, i can image some ppl want it to stay, dunno why ...06:18
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gnomeinvasionHi all. How do I change my soundcard config in Ubuntu? there's no asoundrc in /etc/ or anywhere?06:22
raphaGrr. It doesn't want to.06:22
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vera1suspend works! ..... resume still needs works though :)06:34
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truluxfonts look weird on my crt monitor, without sub-pixel rendering which is neat in my lcd panel and difused06:36
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TycheFilesystem question: Should I go with EXT3 or ReiserFS?06:38
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TycheI'm not doing anything like a webserver with secure shopping or anything06:38
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bob2if you're asking, ext306:38
vera1I normally do ext3 or XFS these days06:38
Tychebob2, yup asking. ext3 is the way to go eh.06:39
bob2ext3 has some issues in 2.6.8 ime06:39
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Tychebob2: Yet ext3 is still the best to go with?06:41
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vera1ext3 is by far the most widely used filesystem for linux right now06:42
xevilext3 journaling is a good thing...06:43
fulvioofor the benchmarks I have seen, ext3 is not very fast compared to reiserfs06:43
Tycheveral & bob2: Great...thank you. I'm now partitioning and it is starting to copy files.06:43
wezzerdoes it have any advantages to ,for example, reiserfs?06:43
wezzeror is it good just for it's large use in unix?06:43
TycheFrom my understanding it is when it journals06:43
vera1easy to use, stability06:44
vera1well supported everywhere06:44
JanCext3 journaling is not exactly "good", but it works, an it's ext2 compatible...06:44
Tycheany hoary testers?06:44
carthikSchoolTyche, currently updating06:45
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Fwiffo_Tyche: yes06:45
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TycheFwiffo_: I have been running it on another machine and it seems like the menu is moved around a bit. Including a drop down for places...06:45
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Fwiffo_Tyche: yes, it's the new menu structure - quite nice imho :)06:46
TycheFwiffo_: Can Imake that change to a warty install?06:46
TycheFwiffo_: I like it also.06:47
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farruinnTyche, I don't think so because I think so06:47
Fwiffo_Tyche: I'm pretty sure the answer is no06:47
farruinnand I think pinning wouldn't work well in this case either06:47
Fwiffo_Tyche: it depends on some quite deep changes that were introduced in gnome 2.9 i think06:48
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myselfhimselfmy answer is in the topic06:49
farruinnwow! someone actually read the topic!06:49
Fwiffo_Tyche: but you could just rearrange your menus manually on your warty machine I guess06:49
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TycheFwiffo_: Bummer. On the one I use Ubuntu the most, my laptop, I had small issues with Hoary. Or at least think it was hoary since I had zero issues before.06:49
Fwiffo_Tyche: :/06:49
TycheFwiffo_: Have you had any shutdown issues? Seems that my hoary machine would take forever to shutdown...if it did.06:50
Fwiffo_Tyche: no, not really - there were some umount breakage at one point, but that seems to have been fixed06:50
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Fwiffo_Tyche: I'm running Hoary on a Compaq n600c laptop06:51
TycheNo worries, going to try Warty again and make sure all seems to run okay. The install is simple enough. Don't mind doing it over to test it.06:51
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stvnis there a way to edit mimetypes/associations?06:52
myselfhimselfi'd like to make sure that my X will still be in 1280*1024 when i start up again...06:52
myselfhimselfbecause it has just given me a 640*480 screen06:52
myselfhimselfso I tried and see what was wrong in my Xorg.conf file06:53
myselfhimselfthe default screen depth is 2406:53
myselfhimselfand for depth 24 i've got Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"06:53
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padlef0twhat p2p software should i use with Linux?06:54
myselfhimselfso what should i do?06:54
padlef0tnot bittorent06:54
padlef0tmore like Direct Connect06:54
Plukdcgui-qt for DC06:54
TycheWell I have been enjoying Ubuntu for the last while. I like to tweak on things and install new cool things.06:55
myselfhimselfthere is pdonkey06:55
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TycheWhat does everyone use there installs for? Are there apps I should check out?06:55
stvnmyselfhimself: what does the xorg log say?06:56
bensexsoni updated and now synaptic has been removed and won't reinstall because it is missing libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3.  apt has gone up to 6.27 dselect and aptitude do not work either.  anyone know of a fix for this?06:56
stvnTyche: tomboy if you need to organise random thoughts/notes06:56
myselfhimselfstvn, i should copypast xorg's log somwehere maybe06:56
stvnbensexson: downgrade or wait a few hours06:56
stvnmyselfhimself: use pastebin, see topic06:57
Tychestvn: Would that work for like a personal journal?06:57
bensexsoncool thanks06:57
stvnTyche: doubtful, it's more a stickynote thing06:57
Tychemyselfhimself: pdonkey what is it? Like napster?06:57
stvnTyche: there are blog apps though06:57
Tychestvn: Okay, I will look for something and also check out tomboy06:58
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Tychemyselfhimself: How did you do that copy, that was nicely done.06:58
myselfhimselfi went on http://rafb.net/paste/06:59
stvnmyselfhimself: ah right, you got a build in videocard?06:59
myselfhimselfwhat's a build-in video car?06:59
myselfhimselfmy bro installed the drivers through apt06:59
myselfhimselfsynaptic rather06:59
stvnmyselfhimself: one which was on your motherboard, not on a seperate card06:59
myselfhimselfwe didn't bother the get the drivers on nvidia's site07:00
myselfhimselfmy video card is "separate"07:00
stvnmyselfhimself: k07:00
myselfhimselfit works well overall it's just that I have to change the resolution every time I reboot07:00
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stvnmyselfhimself: the trouble is that the videocard assumes that your monitor cannot handle 1280x1024 so it protects against it07:00
farruinnstvn, this page discusses setting mime-types in gnome: http://www.uni-kiel.de/rz/nvv/altix-doc/man_html/man5/gnome-vfs-mime.5.html07:01
stvnfarruinn: ta07:01
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farruinnI don't know of an app that makes it easy to edit them though07:01
jon1012hello :D07:01
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myselfhimselfbut my screens can do 1280*102407:01
myselfhimselfwhat should I change then?07:01
tritiumI think I'm going to install java-package from Debian unstable, since it's at versio 0.17, while the one in multiverse is 0.1407:01
jon1012hey I've received my ubuntu CD's :D07:01
stvnmyselfhimself: it can be disabled, but you've to be sure that your monitor can handle the resolution07:01
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Schumisterhi guys07:02
myselfhimselfthen I should change my default depth to 16 shouldn't I? (not 24)07:02
myselfhimselfmy monitor did handle the resolution on last time07:02
Schumistercan anyone tell me when is the next lot of pressed ubuntu linux cd going to be shipped ( i live in johannesburg south africa ) thanx in advance07:02
myselfhimselfand it did handle it on another distro07:02
stvnmyselfhimself: are you sure that the monitor specs in the xorg.conf file are correct?07:03
raphaI hate it. After each and every update, I have to log out and back in again because GNOME stops working.07:03
myselfhimselfMonitor"Generic Monitor" is that the problem?07:03
Fwiffo_myselfhimself: Have you tried using the 'screen resolution' app under the system settings menu?07:03
myselfhimselfmy gnome is "broken"07:03
AsakoI hate my cd burner not working right07:03
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stvnmyselfhimself: you need to add to the section "device" one of the following options:07:04
Fwiffo_myselfhimself: aah :(07:04
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myselfhimselfi rebooted once and my applications menu is messed up07:04
tim1i finally made it that hoary breaks my gnome, the only things that load are the panels, but they're empty except the "show desktop" button, any tips except reinstall ?07:04
Schumisterhelp please07:04
myselfhimselfand the menu next to it doesn't display any computer configuration tools07:04
wezzerSchumister: I don't know either - I ordered few cd's 2 weeks ago :/07:04
AsakoI had to revert to 2.4.26 kernel07:04
carthikSchoolSchumister, why not download a cd, if the wait is getting too long?07:06
carthikSchoolI got mine after a couple of months07:06
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stvnmyselfhimself: Option "UseEdidFreqs" "boolean" Option "IgnoreEDID" "boolean" Option "NoBandWidthTest" "boolean"07:06
myselfhimselfstvn, man : )07:06
stvnmyselfhimself: the menu problem is fixed in the latest hoary, but that hasan apt-issue ATM07:06
stvnmyselfhimself: it's in /usr/share/doc/NVIDIA_GLX-1.007:07
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Schumisteri just wanne know the next shipment date07:07
jam3swhen shipment date?07:07
stvnmyselfhimself: you need to play with them and see which one solves it, for me itwas the nobandwidth, but that's the most dangerous of the 3 AFAIK07:07
restrexshit, i was waiting minutes to enter... beautiful server !07:07
scizzohmmm...why isn't my sound working as it should... :(07:08
xiximkoppi just updated my hoary, now i have these cute ubuntu menus back! wow! but i think there should be a link to the trash folder... should i fill i bugreport or are you thinking this is not needed?07:08
myselfhimselfstvn, ok thank you07:08
Fwiffo_myselfhimself: you could also try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86'07:09
Schumisterwhen the next cd's ship07:09
farruinnxiximkopp: what do you mean by link?  a menu item?07:09
scizzoin some weird way something is blocking the soundcard and I haven't got any sound server on07:09
myselfhimselfFwiffo_, but it seems that i'm not using xfree86 but xorg07:09
bob2Schumister: probably best to ask on the users list07:09
Fwiffo_myselfhimself: aah...07:10
zAo^what is the best way to get JAVA support in Firefox?07:10
Asakobut now sound won't work07:10
myselfhimself/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-xfree8 is not installed07:10
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xiximkoppfarruinn, yes07:10
Fwiffo_myselfhimself: how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:10
myselfhimselfxserver-xorg works though07:10
wezzerzAo^: check ubuntuforums and there the howto-discussions07:10
zAo^thanks wezzer07:10
bob2zAo^: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:11
farruinnxiximkopp, I believe that if you add your trash folder to your gnome favorites it will be there07:11
farruinnxiximkopp: iirc that's what jdub said in his post on ubuntu-devel about the new menu system07:11
farruinnI don't think that the trash will be added to the menu by default though because there is the trash applet07:12
farruinnso does this mean that gnome-menus is fixed in hoary?07:12
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skeasorI just wanna let you guys know, that I love ubuntu07:12
xiximkoppfarruinn, i think so...07:12
skeasorIts the linux Ive never had07:13
tim1can anybody please help me with my gnome problem ?07:13
myselfhimselfi did not read menu in the xserver-xorg07:13
myselfhimselfand it now asks me whether to emulate a 3 buttons mouse07:13
skeasorwhats the gnome problem?07:13
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myselfhimselfi do have one 3buttons mouse but i don't understand what emulate means07:13
farruinnmyselfhimself: that means if you have a two-button you push both for the third button07:13
xiximkoppfarruinn, i added ~/.Trash to my favorites, but it is only in the gtk file dialogue... not in places. but i can live with that one.07:13
myselfhimselfso no emulation then?07:13
tim1skeasor: when i log in, nothing loads but the panels (empty)07:13
farruinnmyselfhimself: I don't think you need it07:14
skeasormyselfhimself you dont need it if you have 3 buttons07:14
TycheI know this is stupid question...but when I have my machine boot up...is there a way to make the [ ok ]  green and the [ failed ]  red?07:14
tim1so the desktop is unusable07:14
Schumisteranyone know how to check if your cd have been sent to a factory or not07:14
bob2Schumister: login to shipit.ubuntu.com07:15
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skeasorTyche? what?07:15
scizzoanyone that can help me with my sound and such?07:15
tim1scizzo: whats the problem ?07:16
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myselfhimselfthanks for your help all07:16
billytwowillyhmm. hoary is trying to remove synaptic.. strange.07:16
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myselfhimselfi'm going to kick the session07:16
scizzotim1: no sound07:16
tim1scizzo, what programs so you use ?07:17
scizzotim1: well I get the nice little "boink" in the gdm stuff but the mixer in gnome does not give me the right options07:17
scizzotim1: rhythmbox etc07:17
xiximkoppbillytwowilly, i have no synaptic anymore... :-( just updated and it disapaered07:17
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scizzotim1: and I have -mad from gstreamer07:17
tritiumbillytwowilly, did you try to dist-upgrade?07:17
skeasorscizzo make sure your sound card is supported07:17
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scizzotim1: the player is playing...but no sound07:17
skeasorhas it worked in another distro?07:17
billytwowillyI haven't done it yet. I ran synaptic and saw that it was trying to do something dumb, so I thought I'd ask in here.07:18
tim1scizzo: try "sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss"07:18
scizzoskeasor: :P Sound Blaster Live!07:18
Tychewhat is ubuntu-desktop07:18
vassiehello, anyone here using an intel yc64 webcam?07:18
Tycheskeasor: You know on other distros when you linux is loading and it gets the green colored okay's when loading?07:18
tritiumI usually use "apt-get -u upgrade" (or dist-upgrade) to see what it's going to do before I allow it.07:18
xiximkoppaptitude isnt there either...07:18
vassiegnome-meeting detects it, but as soon as i turn on the video, it locks up07:19
billytwowillyyah, it tries to remove aptitude as well07:19
tritiumand ubuntu-base, I believe07:20
tritiumand python-apt07:20
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tritiumxiximkopp, try apt-get install apt=0.5.32 (the version before you updated)07:20
dudeanyone from south africa in here07:20
tritiumand then if that works, apt-get install aptitude synaptic python-apt ubuntu-base07:21
tritium(which shoudl have been removed when apt=0.6.27 was installed)07:21
scizzotim1: no changes07:21
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tim1scizzo, sorry i don't know anything else myself ...07:23
scizzotim1: I have "USB Audio Class [OSS Mixer] " with one option "Microphone" and then I have the "Sound Blaster Live! [Alsa Mixer] " next to it with a lot of options07:23
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xiximkoppi think i can live with dselect, until there is a new synaptic with apt=607:23
scizzowhat is the problem is that the oss mixer is the one that needs PCM and so on too..07:23
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novabursthow do you send a private message in Xchat?07:28
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tim1ok so i think im gonna install fedora core 3 and wait for hoary07:30
xiximkoppnovaburst: like this?07:30
xiximkoppnovaburst: but it is not private...07:31
kleedractim: I just moved to ubuntu from FC3 ... stick with ubuntu07:31
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tim1kleedrac: as i stated before my gnome is broken ...07:31
tim1and i want a deskto07:31
kleedractim1: Just joined the channel but what happened to your gnome?07:32
tim1it loads the panels and the "show desktop" button07:32
tim1nothing els07:32
kleedracDid you try alt+F2 metacity07:33
seb128with a fresh user ?07:33
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tim1and i have _no_ idea where to start searching for the problem ...07:33
seb128after an upgrade ?07:33
tim1alt+f2 isn't working07:33
seb128have you restart the session ?07:34
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kleedracWow ... did you try to create a new user and see if they can use gnome?07:34
tim1metacity is working however ...07:34
seb128tim1, seems to be a gnome-vfs-daemon hanging07:34
seb128just try to killall gnome-vfs-daemon nautilus gnome-panel trashapplet07:34
roditim1: rm -rf /tmp/*07:34
rodiI had the same problem.07:35
tim1kleedrac, no, but thats a good idea07:35
rodithen restart X.07:35
tim1ok that are good points to start with07:35
werewolfHi all, it's possible to use swat whitout being root but using sudo?07:35
tim1i'll try all and be right back07:35
tim1thanks so far :)07:36
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farruinnwerwolf, do you need to be some other user, but not root?07:36
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rodiI crashed before after asking this-07:37
rodilibapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.3 seems to have disappeared from Hoary.  Anyone else had this problem?07:37
xiximkopprodi: they updated apt to 6.207:38
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supertedis there a way to use the install cd to install JUST the bootloader?07:40
supertedlike part of a rescue operation07:40
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farruinnsuperted, you could boot from cd, go to a shell and apt-get it maybe07:41
tim1everything works again07:41
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RomPresIs anyone here on the mol-general mailing list?07:41
tim1rm -rf /tmp/* made it07:41
supertedfarruinn: then i'd have to mount and chroot, which i've been able to do with another cd, but the kernel then says it can't boot my root partition07:42
farruinnsuperted: have you tried it with the ubuntu cd?07:42
RomPresDoes anyone know if I should be able to boot MacOnLinux with a Panther install CD?07:42
supertedfarruinn: i can do that now07:43
werewolffarruinn: I don't want to put a password on the root account, but for using swat I have to be root :(07:43
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farruinnwerewolf: sudo swat doesn't work?07:43
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HauntedUnixIf anyone here is involved with the distribution of the Ubuntu CDs (The free ones that were mailed) - thanks. Got mine today ;)07:44
Pluki guess my order didnt fit in my mailbox07:44
sladenHauntedUnix: you could thank mako if you really wanted :-)07:44
Plukhave to collect it at the postoffice soon07:45
superteddoesn't the ubuntu install kernel support reiserfs?07:45
HauntedUnixHeh - I ordered them for an Install-Fest that was going on here. Came a day late, but there were still plenty of requests for them, so I'll be dropping them off soonish to people..07:45
linux_mafiafarruinn, browser interface for configuring samba07:45
farruinnwerewolf: ok, I looked at the apt-cache description07:45
OddAbe19i can remove ubuntu-desktop to install totem-xine without doing any damage... right?07:45
werewolffarruinn: no :)07:46
linux_mafiasuperted, yes it surely does07:46
linux_mafiaOddAbe19, yes, it is only a meta-package07:46
farruinnwerewolf: do you have to login as root or is it "root" as with mysql?07:46
supertedlinux_mafia: well when i try 'linux root=/dev/hda1' it says it can't mount it. allthough im able to do it with 'mount /dev/hda1 /foo' from a booted up shell07:46
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OddAbe19linux_mafia, that's what i thought... i was kinda weary though, because the last time i did, i screwed up my whole hoary system07:47
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sladensuperted: is that partition FAT or something instead of ext2/307:47
AsakoI can't get a package to uninstall07:47
supertedsladen: its reiserfs07:47
linux_mafiasuperted, you talking about in grub? yeah? did you make a custom kernel?07:47
werewolffarruinn: in debian is root (UID=0), but I don't know if is possible to give to a simple user the privilege of root, in samba07:48
supertedlinux_mafia: from the ubuntu install cd command line. like the first thing you encounter07:48
supertedlinux_mafia: its the default kernel07:48
farruinnwerewolf: sorry, I don't know the first thing about samba =(07:48
linux_mafiasuperted, why are you passing that option on install?07:49
hilesuperted: you are probably missing the initrd?07:49
supertedhile: is it needed in the lilo conf?07:49
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linux_mafiasuperted, its grub07:49
hilewell, the kernel has ide disks as modules, so yes, if you are booting the std kernel07:49
linux_mafiasuperted, and like i said why are you passing those options on install?07:50
supertedlinux_mafia: just trying to get it to boot up. with lilo it just says it can'y07:50
werewolffarruinn: thanks07:51
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linux_mafiasuperted, where does lilo come into it? are you dual booting with a previously installed linux distro?07:51
hilesuperted: I think best way to do this would be to go to installer, let it load installer modules so you have the devices, go to virtual console 2 and mount your fs manually and chroot: from there you could do whatdever magic you want for the boot loaders07:52
hilesuperted: and yes, grub is the boot loader for ubuntu, not lilo (still you _can_ install lilo but that's not normal)07:52
hileyou can start the installer safely, just don't go further than the partitioning step and you have a ready to use rescue on virtual console07:53
sittisalhelp: i've just installed ubuntu on amd64 and at first reboot grub fails with error 18 ... wath the hell is it?07:53
supertedhile: that's what i've been doing. adding initrd in the lilo conf helped :)07:54
supertedhile: thanks07:54
padlef0tsittisal: you probably havent installed grub to the Master Boot Record..07:54
sittisalpadlef0t, how can i remedy on that?07:55
padlef0trun the install as "expert" and you will get prompted on it07:55
sittisalubuntu install cd can recovery my system?07:55
sittisalpadlef0t, ok, nou i try... thanks07:55
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hilesuperted: if you would use grub you could add the parameters from the boot loader cli if you screw up, without rescue (like I had to do yesterday when I installed laptop with cryptoroot and had root=/dev/hda1 instead of root=/dev/mapper/rootfs ;)07:56
linux_mafiahile, i still don't understand why that guy would want to pass a root=/blah option to the installer? do you?07:56
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supertedhile: yeah it's just that im not familiar with grub yet07:56
hilelinux_mafia: I think he was actually talking about rescue editing lilo.conf in installer07:56
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linux_mafiahile, ok got ya07:57
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hilesuperted: check grub, it's really good ... I've seen a couple of configs where were works better but it's really rare casae07:58
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sittisalpadlef0t, ok i've executed a shell but no grub command found...07:58
padlef0ti had the same problem07:58
padlef0ti reinsalled the entire system07:58
padlef0tand used "expert" mode07:58
restrexwhat did happpen tu u07:59
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Asakoman, cd burning is all screwed up08:03
JStrikeIs there a meta-package to get all the -dev packages for development with Gnome?08:05
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Asakoanybody use k3b?08:06
JStrikebob2 : Great. Thanks08:06
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cenerentolaciao a tutti ppl08:08
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magnetoanyone here using sid or sarge?08:13
AsakoI was08:14
magnetowhich one? u using warty now?08:14
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AsakoI use sarge at home08:16
Synekmagneto: i swiched from sarge couple of days ago08:16
Asakosince warty has broken cd burner support08:16
magnetoim thinking about sid or sarge cause hoary really sucks08:16
Seveashoary is development08:16
magnetowell not all of hoary08:16
magnetognome in hoary08:16
Seveasit doesn't suck, it's just not finished yet08:16
magnetoi know that ive been using it for months but im tired of the constant bs08:17
magnetoi need something newer than warty08:17
Seveastry sid, it's at least as unstable as hoary08:17
Seveasmagneto, for what?08:17
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magnetobut not hoary - i was thinking sid or sarge either that or im going back to gentoo08:18
Seveasyou can use a mixed hoary/warty system using all of warty and a few appz from hoary08:18
fsmwhello all!08:18
fsmwi got a problem using ndiswrapper and hoary08:18
fsmwsudo modprobe ndiswrapper08:18
fsmwFATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.9-1-686/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid module format08:18
magnetoyeah i was doin that seveas but it got tired enabling and disabling repos for applying updates etc08:18
fsmwwith warty everything is ok, somebody have tried this in hoary?08:19
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marsjaysanyone know when php5 will be in hoary?08:20
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|trey|magneto, you could of course look into package pinning...08:20
Seveasfsmw, try discussing it on the list, sounds like a bug08:20
adam_Has anyone got doom3 working on ubuntu hoary?08:20
|trey|magneto, basically, it allows you to set priorities, and allows you to tell it what to upgrade from what repo etc...08:21
magnetotrey- yeah but its not worth it - im goin back to gentoo08:21
|trey|magneto, have fun then I guess  :/08:21
fsmwok Seveas08:22
Olivier_54lo tlm08:22
|trey|magneto, I don't see how learning about, and using apt pinning is harder then installing Gentoo though  :/08:23
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Grantedhello, when i start mplayer i read: "etc/.../mplayer.conf"08:24
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Grantedillegal instruction08:24
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|trey|Granted, does it state anything in peticular.... or is that all that it says?08:25
bob2marsjays: it's not even in sid yet08:25
Grantednothing else08:25
marsjaysi'm having problems with my 3com prism54 wifi adapter, it seems the firmware doesn't load correctly.. anyone know how to fix it?08:25
TycheHas anyone here tried stumpleupon for your browser? If not, you should. I really like it, but I am the type that goes out to surf the internet and find new sites for all kinds of things.08:26
xukunanybody of you have dell dimension 4550?08:27
Tychebob2: Seeing marsjays comment, reminded me, I have not been able to get my built in wireless card to work. Where can I go to read more about this? I'm not sure how I would go about getting it to work or anything.08:27
Tychexukun: I have used Dell in the past, what is the question.08:27
magnetotrey: pinning isnt harder than installing gentoo - but if I wanna customize the shit outta everything i prefer gentoo08:27
|trey|magneto, apt > portage if you learn how to use it.08:28
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bob2Tyche: why sort of chipset is it?08:29
magnetotrey: thats the only reason i use ubuntu apt is greater due to the availability of pkgs and no compile times08:30
xukunTyche: tho its not needed to compile my own kernel, I like to try to compile my first kernel or this machine, but my first attempt was a big failier. kernel panic. I would like peak some elses .config file08:30
Tychebob2: not sure will have to find that out. It is an IBM laptop with centrino.08:31
|trey|magneto, apt can handle source too  :/08:31
magnetoi know but i dont use it for that08:31
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Tychexukun: Gotcha...cannot help there...sorry.08:31
bob2Tyche: if it's centrino then you need the ipw2100 or 2200 module, which will be loaded automatically08:31
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bob2Tyche: all you need to do is set the essid and get an IP08:31
magnetoif i wanna have to compile a bunch of stuff id use slack or gentoo08:31
|trey|magneto, why not? you are used to dealing with source due to Gentoo... if you don't like a compiled package... compile it yourself.08:32
|trey|magneto, thats kinda closed minded "if I want to compile stuff... I'll use another distro"... apt/ubuntu/debian provide the means in a clean way already...08:33
magnetotrey: then the only practical advantage i personally see in using debian/ubuntu is gone08:33
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|trey|magneto, then you don't know enough about the distro... and you should learn.08:33
bob2anyway, this is kinda off-topic08:34
Tychebob2: When I installed it realized there was eth0 and eth1, but when the install is complete and I go into 'Network Settings' it only has eth0.08:34
bob2Tyche: 'network settings'? the gnome thing?08:34
magnetotrey: personally as in opinionated - precompiled package availability is the only reason i stayed with ubuntu08:35
Tychebob2: Computer > System Configuration > Networking08:35
Tychebob2: Someplace else I should check?08:35
bob2Tyche: I'd just edit /etc/network/interfaces08:36
|trey|magneto, every one of those packages are available in source form also... hence deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list  :/08:36
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emanuelezhello *08:36
emanuelezthis is my first boot in ubuntu08:36
emanuelezany suggestion??08:36
|trey|emanuelez, click stuff?08:37
magnetotrey: you dont seem to listen- if i want to compile large apps like gnome from source ill use gentoo lol  deb-src oh really wow never seen that - cmon man08:37
magnetoanyway im out08:37
Simiraemanuelez: test reboot?08:37
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AsakoI think I'm going back to the real Debian08:37
Tychebob2: okay, I am in there now.08:37
AsakoI can't even burn cds now08:37
xukunbob2: in your early days of linux was it always easy for you to compile your own kernels?08:37
emanuelezwhat about upgrading software? does apt work just like in debian? sources.list and so on...08:37
Tychebob2: Not exactly sure what to be doing the primary network device is set to auto eth0.08:38
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mmc_installing xine-lib in ubuntu08:38
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bob2xukun: no08:39
RuffianSoldierUbuntu and Win2k are the only 2 OSs on my 4 OS machine that plays DVDs correctly08:39
Agrajagyour other 2 OSes can't run VLC?08:40
RuffianSoldierI have BeatrIX and SUSE 9.1 on this machine also08:40
Agrajagvideolan client, a media player that's been ported to everything08:40
Agrajagodd that they should have trouble08:41
RuffianSoldierwell - getting teh correct libs in SUSE will be a pain - and Bea wont play most of my DVDs08:41
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xukunbob2: so just keep trying?08:42
Tycheanyone know how I can find essid08:42
bob2xukun: hmm, yeah08:42
Asakook, now my sound doesn't work08:43
bob2Tyche: ask whoever is running your AP08:43
bob2xukun: well, you shouldn't really ever need to do it08:43
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TycheOkay, so it is per network. Is there an app that will view the available wireless networks?08:43
bob2'iwconfig eth01 scanning'08:43
bob2er, eth108:44
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unpersonI'm I correct that the CD player installed by default in Warty has no random (aka shuffle) mode?08:44
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xukunbob2: iwlist?08:45
Tychebob2: thank you much. I will try to connect when I get home.08:45
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RuffianSoldierOn SUSE and Ubuntu my net is set up as eth1 cuz I have a PCI Ethernet card that I dont use thats installed - I use onboard LAN08:45
scizzoI think I know what was covering the sound before08:45
xukuniwscanning eth0 scanning!08:45
xukuniwlist eth0 scanning!08:46
scizzoThe usb webcam was doing everything and that would be the cause08:46
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emanuelezany hint to make my ati radeon have 3d acceleration?08:46
mjrwhich radeon?08:47
tswwhy are there no mp3 modules for gnome rhythmbox?08:47
bobby8When i run this from the CLI "tc qdisc add dev ppp0 root handle 1: htb default 15" it works, but when i run the exact same command from a bash script i get the following error "RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument". Why?08:47
Agrajagtsw: you need to install it yourself08:47
mjrtsw, http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:47
tswAgrajag: tried to search for it, but couldnt find08:47
emanuelezmjr, 960008:47
Agrajagtsw: check that link mjr pasted08:47
tswmjr: I thought something like that08:47
Agrajagit'll tell you what you need to do08:48
mjremanuelez, righto, no specs and therefore no free drivers for that, you'll have to install ati's proprietary frglx drivers08:48
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tswwild quess there is a apt source for it but its disabled by default :)08:48
wileyanybody know how to set up odbc datasource in OO?08:48
scizzotsw: read08:48
emanuelezmjr, no apt-get uh?08:48
mjremanuelez, don't know really, might be in restricted for all I know08:49
emanuelezmjr, i see... thx08:49
farruinnubhuti: binarydriver emanuelez08:49
ubhutifarruinn: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:49
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farruinnubhuti binarydriver08:50
ubhutimethinks binarydriverhowto is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto08:50
farruinntake a look at that emanuelez08:50
mjryeah, seems helpful08:50
xukunbob2: do you mean as long as something like ubuntu is out there no one needs to compile his or her own kernel?08:50
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emanuelezthx a lot.. i'll take a look now08:50
anGerHoOdhi here08:50
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anGerHoOdi ve a problem when i try to update my ubuntu08:51
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anGerHoOdCould not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out08:52
emanuelezsources.list... should i enable universe and restricted?08:52
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farruinnrestricted is already enabled08:53
xukunanGerHoOd: no problems here!08:53
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anGerHoOdi'm the only one in the world08:54
slicslaki need to remotely admin a ubuntu box.  is there something similar to KDE's Desktop Sharing built in?  yes, i can ssh, but i need to show the end user a few things.08:54
bashit's there a programs for ftp client on X11, that can pause uploads, etc08:54
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farruinnemanuelez: you have to enable multiverse, but I don't think it looks like you _have_ to enable universe08:54
slicslakbash, gftp used to be really popular.  these days most ppl use the file manager built into theyir window manager08:55
TycheOthers use X-Chat?08:55
TycheIs there a way to turn off the messages of people coming and going, etc?08:55
farruinnemanuelez: n/m that, I was looking at the wrong thing08:56
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emanuelezfarruinn, i see :) thx08:57
piyrTyche: maybe Preferences->Chatting->General->Hide join/part messages08:57
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emanuelezdownloading k7 kernel now... i guess it's the right one for and amd64 running a 32 bit kernel...08:58
Tychepiyr: Oh, thank you. I need to open my eyes a little more. I was in there even.08:58
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anGerHoOdis it possible to be banned from the ftp of ubuntu ?09:01
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ChibiFShttp://studiochibico.com/Xfce-dusk.tar.gz Dusk 2! Save your eyes from ouchey text D:!09:03
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MicroDanis it a good idea to use the official debian repositories with ubuntu?09:09
MicroDanbecause ubuntu doesn't ahve the package I need09:09
mjrit's not09:09
MicroDanwhat would happen?09:09
linux_mafiaMicroDan, nothing, if its not a core piece of the os, and you keep aware that you have a "foreign" peice of software on your box its fine09:10
kerberosalguie sabe com copiar dvd????????????09:11
MicroDanwill apt-get upgrade-all work without breaking everything on ubuntu?09:11
MicroDanif I don't use debian09:11
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linux_mafiaMicroDan, it definately wont work, because upgrade-all does not exist as a command09:12
ChibiFSHaha :P09:12
adamw_Just installed Ubuntu (Warty) and having trouble getting sound to work.  Can anyone help?09:12
MicroDanthere was this thing in synaptic to upgrade everything09:13
MicroDanwill that break if I use it09:13
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ChibiFSMicrodan - It's Possible to do it, you'll just have a mixed system from then on.09:13
gfgno MicroDan09:13
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ChibiFSTry not to upgrade anything from it. :P09:13
xukunafter dist-upgrading hoary would that mean I have xorg or do I need to do some more configuration?09:13
adamw_MMessage says no Mixer elements or devices found09:13
MicroDanoh, dist-upgrade, that's what I meant09:13
linux_mafiadist-upgrading to hoary?09:13
skeasorbad idea09:14
ChibiFSxukun - Yes, you need to edit the keyboard driver from keyboard to kbd09:14
ChibiFSThat's it, though.09:14
MicroDangfg: that's good; on my last system, it broke after I did dist-upgrade by accident so I had to install ubuntu09:14
linux_mafiaChibiFS, really? i didnt09:14
ChibiFSWell, they might have changed that in xorg 6.8.1 or something, but 6.8.0 required it.09:15
ChibiFSJust want him to be safe.09:15
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adamw_Audio problems, can anyone help?09:16
xukunChibiFS: edit what? xorg.config( Driver          "keyboard")?09:16
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skeasoradamw_ whats the prob?09:16
MicroDanwhere coudl I find the official debian sources for packages?09:17
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adamw_skeasor, Volume control is saying there are no mixer elements.09:17
ChibiFSYes, xukun, but don't change it unless it gives you trouble.09:18
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adamw_skeasor, I am on a Dell Latitude with the 82801CA Audio Controller09:18
techn9nehow can I make nautilus show a 2 column file selector tree like windows explorer/konqueror.. is it possible?09:18
Agrajagnautilus --browser --no-desktop09:19
techn9nethat sorta works but i want a directory tree on left09:20
Agrajagisn't there one?09:20
Agrajagwhat is there?09:20
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Agrajagyou do have a left panel, right?09:20
techn9neinfo box w/ a big icon and name of current folder09:20
adamw_skeasor, Any ideas?09:20
Agrajagand it says "Information" with a little arrow pointing down?09:20
Agrajagclick on that09:21
Agrajagand choose "Tree"09:21
xukunadamw_: then cat /proc/asound/cards does not say anything?09:21
techn9neoh ok thanks. can i make it start like that w/ the tree?09:21
Agrajagit will next time you run nautilus the way I showed you09:21
techn9necool thanks09:21
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Agrajagor you can go into file management prefs and turn off spatial browsing09:22
adamw_No asound directory in /proc09:22
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techn9nethat works great. thanks.09:22
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_cdshow come It tries to load lvmcfg-utils, then I get a warning saying it's entering low memory mode, then goes back to loading lvmcfg, into this loop, on install?09:23
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techn9nehow long has ubuntu been around?09:24
techn9neis this the the first release (the current one)09:24
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xukunadamw_: "snd_intel8x0" I think this is the module you need for  82801CA Audio Controller but I,m not sure09:25
Riddelltechn9ne: yes, this is the first release, development plans started about 10 months ago09:26
techn9neive been using diff. linux distros for a while. most recently suse 9.2. ubuntu by far is the best.09:27
techn9nethings work much better than suse 9.2. less errors. less problems. less bs.09:27
xukunadamw_: what does lspci say about the Multimedia audio controller?09:27
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s0cksogra : !09:28
adamw_0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)09:28
adamw_module is loaded in kernel09:28
_cdswhat does "module hid not found" mean?09:29
xukunadamw_: which module whould that be?09:30
adamw_snd_intel8x0, snd_intel8x0m09:31
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RuffianSoldierhey zenwhen09:31
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adamw_I'm gonna reboot real quick to see if anything changes... brb09:32
_cdscan nobody help me?09:32
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emoxeranyone know how to boot ubuntu on hd from the cd?09:33
emoxergrub gave me error #'s 15 & 1709:34
zAo^Did you check the config?09:34
emoxerdude grub totally messed up my mbr09:34
emoxeri had to reinstall windows and im trying to get ubuntu back up, but i dont want to install grub or lilo, i'd rather just boot it through the cd09:35
emoxeryou there?09:36
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zAo^does anyone know a Linux-PDA?09:38
techn9nenext version of palm os is gonna use linux09:38
adamwAudio still not working after reboot09:39
kentemoxer, what do you meen with messed up your mbr?09:39
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emoxerumm, it stopped working09:40
emoxeri couldnt get into windows09:40
emoxeror ubuntu09:40
zAo^emoxer, did you change some parameters?09:40
xukunadamw: did you use oss and not alsa?09:40
emoxerit was basically a new install09:40
emoxerall i had done was install wine and xmms09:40
emoxernothing big09:40
jpvcxzAo^: Sharp has a Linux pda.09:41
zAo^thnx jpvcx09:41
emoxeryou wouldnt happen to know how to boot up the kernel to finish installing ubuntu09:41
emoxerbecause now my cd is saying grub or lilo can not install09:42
emoxeri check it's integrity and it said it's valid09:42
emoxerbut why would it install grub or lilo properly?09:42
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kentis it possible to use gnomemeeting as a way of talking to a person with a webcam who uses windows? Im thinking of buying a webcam, and gnomemeeting seems nice, but i want it to work with some kind of windows-client.09:45
BockBilbokent it is09:45
BockBilbohe must use windows netmeeting09:45
RuffianSoldierSomeone talking about Windows in here?  Daniels - ban!09:45
BockBilboboth use the same protocol09:45
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balthus1980hello all!09:46
BockBilbohd3 or smthing like that i think09:46
Simirashut up, RuffianSoldier09:46
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emoxerdoes anyone know how to install ubuntu without installing lilo or grub?09:47
Simirakent, BockBilbo: it's protocol h323. I'm working on it just now. Trying windows msn at the moment.09:47
balthus1980quick questio...i am a total linux noob sorry in advance...can i burn the iso i download to a dvd-rw?09:47
balthus1980and still use it properly?09:47
BockBilbosimira, windows msn's webcam tool uses h323 too??09:47
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SimiraBockBilbo: not sure, I'm not using one09:48
BockBilboohh ok...09:48
BockBilbomy wifi card isnt working09:48
BockBilboits a new computer.. and already broken09:49
tswcouldnt get apm or acpi working.. says kernel doesnt have apm or acpi installed09:49
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kentSimira, using gnomemeeting, i cant talk to some one using msn, right? I have this friend in brazil, and want to be able to talk to her with a webcam and she uses windows.  But ok, i will figure out how this netmeeting works in windows.09:50
BockBilboyou cannot kent09:50
BockBilbotell him to use netmeeting09:50
BockBilboc:\Program Files\Netmeeting i think09:50
Simirakent: netmeeting should work, except in WinXP09:50
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BockBilboc:\Program Files\Netmeeting\conf.exe09:50
BockBilboSimira, it does on XP too09:50
balthus1980what is the best faq or sticky for a noob like myself?09:50
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BockBilbobalthus visit the wiki;)09:51
emoxerdoes anyone have experience with mepis?09:51
kentsimira, BockBilbo,  and running this conf.exe is enough to start netmeeting in XP?09:51
jpvcxemoxer: well you could install grub/lilo to the root partition off your ubuntu install, then use something like GAG or ntloader to boot from it.09:52
SimiraBockBilbo: refuses to install with me09:52
emoxersorry, i cant install either period09:52
emoxermy cd's messed up or something i don't know the problem.09:52
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BockBilboSimira what refuses to install?09:53
Simira_cds: It might help if you state your problem09:53
SimiraBockBilbo: netmeeting09:53
Simiraon XP09:54
_cdssimira: _cds> how come It tries to load lvmcfg-utils, then I get a warning saying it's entering low memory mode, then goes back to loading lvmcfg, into this loop, on install?09:54
BockBilboit works for me.. perhaps it is installed by default09:54
SimiraBockBilbo: which version, then?Pro?09:54
emoxermy problem is when i choose to install without grub or lilo it doesnt want to continue the installation process, how can i get it to start the second part of the installation?09:55
emoxerwhich starts after a reboot09:55
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xukunadamw: any luck?09:57
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wasabi_Does ubuntu automatically update the hostname in /etc/hosts when the IP changes?09:57
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_cdssimira: no idea, than?09:58
Simira_cds: not me.09:58
Riddellwasabi_: no09:58
_cdsdoes anyone?09:58
unpersonSorry, I asked this earlier, but then I had to run out:09:59
unpersonI'm I correct that the CD player installed by default in Warty has no random (aka shuffle) mode?09:59
wasabi_Riddell: so... uh how does it work with dhcp?09:59
_cdsstarting to wonder how good ubuntu is, if it can't get past the first stage of installation...09:59
Riddellwasabi_: how does what work?09:59
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wasabi_Riddell: the name resolution09:59
Riddellwasabi_: DNS10:00
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wasabi_Oh. So it just doesn't bother.10:00
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Riddellwasabi_: /etc/hosts is from the days before DNS, these days it's just used to keep the localhost IP address to ensure that always works10:01
wasabi_Riddell: not everybody has their own personal dns server.10:01
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wasabi_so, unless /etc/hosts is up to date, any software trying to find the IP of the hostname will fail.10:02
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JStrikesudo apt-get install gnome-devel gives me the following error10:09
JStrikeThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:09
JStrike  gnome-devel: Depends: gnome-core-devel (= 62) but it is not going to be installed10:09
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emoxeranyone know where i can download ubuntu10:12
emoxeryeah, but its slow ther10:13
trukuloJStrike, are you using warty or hoary10:13
farruinntry a different mirror10:13
mjrtry the torrent10:13
emoxerive tried the torrent10:13
emoxerwouldnt even download10:13
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ericzdar je tu nejaky cechoslovak ?10:14
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TycheI'm having an issue with sound...where is the best place to start troubleshooting?10:15
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TycheIt appears that it is there when I go into Device Manager.10:15
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pdaousthey, folks, is there any way to find out the exact config for the kernel and modules in the stock Warty distro?10:17
RuffianSoldieralways is10:17
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pdaoustRuffianSoldier: was that directed to me?10:18
TychePostfix configuration? Where is the best place to go about that?10:18
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pdaoustTyche: I believe that if you search around for a main.cf file, there is a copy of that file (called main.cf.default or something) will give you a play-by-play of a lot of handy configuration options. Otherwise, I find the Postfix Internet documentation really useful; it's helped me get out of a few pickles10:19
pdaoustRuffianSoldier: where can I find it? do I just go to /usr/src/linux?10:19
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RuffianSoldierim not sure10:20
_cdswhat does module hid not found mean on the install?10:20
RuffianSoldierbut I know it can be done10:20
JStriketrukulo : Hoary10:20
Simirakent: NetMeeting works out fine10:20
pdaoust_cds: it means something screwy10:20
_cdspdaoust: screwly like what?10:20
pdaoust_cds: probably your CD is borked? hid is a rather important kernel module that handles USB mice and keyboards.10:20
trukuloJStrike, so, you're alone, send a bug10:20
JStriketrukulo : Ok10:21
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pdaoustRuffianSoldier: found it; Ubuntu keeps it at /boot/config-
pdaoust(for those of us with that kernel)10:23
_cdspdaoust: seems to be ok with another CD :S10:24
_cdsno, wait, I lie10:24
_cdsit does it at lv,-cfy utils10:24
_cdslvm-cfg utils, even10:24
_cdsanyway I can fix this?10:25
pdaoust_cds: gosh, I haven't even encountered a problem like that.10:25
_cdsbecause debian is crap to admin and I want a distro that works in low memory..10:25
pdaoustand it can't even find the file?10:25
_cdsthats what it's saying10:26
_cds"FATAL: Module hid not found"10:26
pdaoust_cds: crazy10:26
pdaoustdoes a liveCD work?10:26
pdaoustdoes the same (supposedly broken) CD work in another computer (if you have another one you can try)?10:26
_cdsumm. don't really have one I want to wipe, no10:26
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_cdsi'll try it on my server and see if it gets past that point...10:27
pdaoust_cds: man, I wish I could help you; this is out of my league10:27
farruinn_cds: do you get the error on boot or when installing?10:28
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_cdswhen installing10:28
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_cdswhats lvmcfg-utils?10:29
pdaoustfarruinn: do you mean when booting the install CD or when booting the newly-installed system?10:29
farruinnbooting the cd10:29
pdaoustyeah, that would make all the difference10:29
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epotashanyone have any information on how to set up a server to do a net install10:30
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farruinnepotash: have you searched the Debian doc at all?10:31
farruinnthat's where I would start10:31
epotashim looking through some of it now10:32
epotashunfortunately, my other machine is xp10:32
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UbuntuNoSainthello, Guys! Could anyone help me with the error "temporary failure in name resolution" when my ubuntu is booting, trying to syncronize the clock?10:33
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_cdspdaoust/farruinn: will it have anything to do with the fact it's doing it in low memory mode?10:33
pdaoustUbuntuNoSaint: hmmmmmmmmm..... possibly, one sec10:34
UbuntuNoSaintIt is pretty sad, I have to go to gnome network tool and deactivate and activate again my eth0 and eth1, and10:34
UbuntuNoSaintafter that everything is normally back.10:34
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UbuntuNoSaintSounds pretty weird. :-(10:34
_cdspdaoust/farruinn: it works in my server.. just not my laptop it seems10:35
pdaoustUbuntoNoSaint: whoa, sounds like more than just a time sync problem; I wonder if your computer isn't getting a DHCP lease at startup?10:35
pdaoust_cds: that's weird weird10:35
epotashso if i do a debian net install10:35
epotashwhat do i need to move to ubuntu?10:35
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UbuntuNoSaintp-daoust: I'm not on a DHCP network...10:35
epotashchange the apt sources, and just do upgrade?10:35
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_cdsanyone know where I can go for more support?10:35
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farruinnepotash, if you're talking about doing a netinstall of debian then upgrading to ubuntu?10:35
farruinnepotash: if so that's exactly right10:35
epotashi think that is the easiest way10:36
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epotashwill it install everything?10:36
UbuntuNoSaintpdaoust: I think I'm doing something stupid, cause after I reactivate it on gnome network tool everything is back to normal..10:36
epotashlike im thinking i will just do a minimal deb install, and then upgrade, will i need to install ubuntu desktop (gnome) separately?10:36
UbuntuNoSaintgoogling didn't help me...10:36
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farruinnepotash: that's exactly what I was going to suggest =)10:36
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epotashwhere can i get a sources file for ubuntu10:37
UbuntuNoSaintanyone? :-)10:37
epotashim guessing theres one i can just use "wget" to download? or do i have to enter manually10:37
epotashahhh, thank you10:38
_cdswhere can I go for support, then?10:38
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farruinnepotash: you might even do a woody net install, that way you're guaranteed that there's nothing in Debian that's newer in Ubuntu =)10:39
farruinndefinitely wouldn't do sid10:39
UbuntuNoSainttip: I have two eths on my machine: eth0 and eth1, but both are well configured (I copied its configuration from another functional Debian install of mine).10:39
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UbuntuNoSaintThat's the only remaining thing stopping me from using Ubuntu on a daily basis at home. ;-)10:40
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farruinn_cds: is "low memory mode" a bios setting?10:44
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farruinnif so I would try turning that off10:44
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tckthat ubuntuguide is nice10:45
tckalot of effort gone into it :)10:45
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epotashwhy did u say not to do sid?10:45
_cdsfarruim: no, it's what the installer does cos my laptop doesn't have much RAM10:45
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farruinnepotash: there are many packages in sid that are at a higher version than they are in ubuntu10:45
epotashwhat is better about ubuntu than sid?10:46
farruinnepotash: I like warty because it's frozen and stable10:46
farruinnI can put up with a bit of staleness for that10:46
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epotashdoes sid have gnome 2.8?10:46
farruinnno idea10:46
murfHi! why the first release has number 4.10 ? instead of 1.0 ?10:46
farruinndate of release, october 410:47
farruinnor... no, october 200410:47
farruinnso whatever's released in 2005 will be 5.*10:47
xhoynice way to number elases ;-)10:48
xhoyand in 2010? it wil be 0.?10:48
xhoyor 10.?10:48
epotashfarruinn: which version should i upgrade to?10:48
xhoyand 3010 wil be 3010?10:49
calcand in year 3000 it would be 1010.x ;)10:49
epotashor warty? or are they different10:49
calcer 301010:49
xhoycalc: no10:49
xhoy1010 ;-)10:49
JStrikeSOB: Hunting down all the gnome-dev files is going to be hell10:49
xhoyyear - 200010:49
Cube-nesshmnm.. using hoary here.. kernel 2.6.9 panics when trying to start the hotplug stuff at boot.. is this a know issue?10:49
farruinnepotash: warty is the stable, frozen branch, hoary is the unstable devel branch10:50
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_cdsfarruinn: is it worth me downloading hoary to see if that likes my lappy?10:50
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mAIJKWhen Im going to install an package from synaptic I cant find anything. What should I do to find the packages ? ;)10:51
farruinn_cds, I can't really say - I've never installed hoary and I dont have a laptop =(10:51
farruinnmAIJK, have you tried the search feature?10:51
JStrikeThere doesn't seem to be a libnautilus2-dev package10:51
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mAIJKI don't find anything when Im search10:52
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farruinnubhuti supportedhardware10:52
ubhutifarruinn: I give up, what is it?10:52
RomanKHi all!10:52
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farruinndamn you ubhuti10:52
farruinnubhuti supported hardware10:52
ubhutiDon't know if your hardware is supported?  Find out at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSuport10:52
RomanKAnyone in here using gnome-volume-manager+pmount? If you plug in and out a usb-stick several times... does it create multiple /media/foobar-n on your machines, too?10:52
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_cdsthat bot's wrong..10:53
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RomanKi'm not using ubuntu, btw, but debian sid... but since this gvm+pmount-stuff originates from ubuntu, i thought i'd ask in here ;)10:54
mAIJKIt's something u have to do to find packages in synaptics?10:54
omalleywas wondering about that10:54
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farruinnmAIJK, what are you looking for?10:54
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mAIJKseveral packages10:55
siretarthi folks10:55
mAIJKkopete, fluxbox and so on10:55
mAIJKbut i can't find anything when I search10:55
AMIGrAvei just installed ubuntu for the fist time, server X failed to start with nv module, i used vesa to get X working. Is there a package that will install nvidia's driver ?10:55
RuffianSoldierkopete blowspete10:55
murffarruinn: "22:45 < farruinn> or... no, october 2004" so it is pretty new distribution ....10:56
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siretartdid anybody around try netapplet from gnome? I don't want to break my warty for nothing..10:56
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farruinnmAIJK: make sure you select your search in the side pane10:56
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AMIGrAveis it nvidia-kernel-common ?10:57
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siretartAMIGrAve: what nvidia card do you have?10:57
mAIJKfarruinn side "pane" ?10:57
farruinnmAIJK, on the left there is a list of all of your previous searches.  When you click on them you get the results.10:58
AMIGrAvesiretart, Geforce 6600GT10:58
epotashfarruinn, do i only need to change that one thing in apt sources?10:58
tritiumWow, I just used DBAN to wipe my old laptop hard drive.  Now, I can't boot from CD unless I put in my other hard drive.10:58
mAIJKI don't get any results.10:58
tritiumEven the BIOS settings differ, depending on which drive i have in the laptop.10:58
siretartAMIGrAve: oh, I think you have to use the binary drivers. The install procedure is described here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto10:58
tritiumOne case sees the fixed optical disk installed, the other doesn't.10:58
farruinnepotash: if you have deb-src lines change those too10:59
AMIGrAvesiretart, thanks10:59
farruinnmAIJK: are you on a ppc?10:59
tritiumIs there a way to boot the ubuntu Live CD from floppy or something else, since it can't boot from CD drive?10:59
AMIGrAveBTW: I choosed belgian keyworkd at install but X-server was installed with XkbdLayout = "us"10:59
farruinnmAIJK: powerbook or ibook perhaps?11:00
AMIGrAveand I also got this message : "dpkg warning: architecture 'amd64' is not in remapping table"11:00
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farruinnmAIJK, you're not searching for more than one thing at once are you?11:02
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tritiumAnyone know how I can boot the LiveCD without having a bootable CD?  floppy?  from installed ubuntu partition?11:02
farruinnmAIJK: what if you apt-cache search <package> at the command line?11:02
mAIJKI remember that the last time I used ubuntu I had the same problem, didn't get any search result.. but I clicked some option and then it worked11:02
farruinnmaybe you need to hit reload11:03
mAIJKtried that of course11:03
farruinndoes apt-cache search show you anything?11:03
mAIJKIt works now11:04
mAIJKCan't you run fluxbox @ ubuntuu?11:04
farruinnof course11:04
mAIJKShould I find it @ Synaptic?11:05
mAIJKI can't find kopete @ synaptic :/11:05
mAIJKI dont find fluxbox :/11:05
mAIJKI tried to search at samba, I found five things, but when I search at fluxbox or kopete I find nothing11:06
epotashare there things i can do to speed up my boot time?11:06
epotashi havent installed yet (downloading packages now), but just from experience with debian11:06
SynekmAIJK: i believe you have to uncomment universe in sources.list11:07
farruinnepotash, this is only applicable to hoary, but they're working on 30 second boots11:07
mAIJKSynek Where do I find sources.list?11:08
farruinnmaybe fluxbox is only in hoary because I'm not finding it either11:08
farruinnubhuti enable universe11:08
ubhutiTo enable universe run `sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and uncomment the universe lines as indicated.11:08
Synekfarruinn: just as ubhuti said11:08
Synekafter that: sudo apt-get update11:09
farruinnoy, should tell ubhuti that11:09
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_cdsis the fact that my laptop isn't on the ssupported list a bad thing?11:10
farruinn_cds, not necessarily11:10
farruinnjust means no one has tested it yet11:10
_cdsi see..11:10
_cdsand given my problems, it might not be supported?11:10
_cdsis there anywhere I can ask?11:10
_cdsforum or anything?11:10
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farruinnubhuti ubuntu-users11:11
ubhutiit has been said that ubuntu-users is at http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users11:11
epotashhow do you browse a floppy/11:11
epotashjust /dev/fd0?11:11
KosaiYou need to mount it first.11:11
dsryou need to mount it11:11
epotashhow do you do that11:11
Synekmount /dedia/floppy11:11
Synekmount /media/floppy11:12
mAIJKThanks, It works fine now11:12
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epotashhow easy is it to get a wireless network card working under linux11:14
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mAIJKdoes someone know how to get an USB WLAN stick to work with ubuntu ???11:14
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QerubI just installed Ubuntu on a friend's computer. The installation went fine but during base-config I got some nasty harddrive errors... Something with "DMA timeout, BadCRC", Disabling dma mode with hdparm does the trick, but what reasons can there be for DMA to fail? Windows works fine with DMA enabled on the same machine. I acknowledge this is not Ubuntu specific, but anyway.11:15
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capnemohello :) brand new with ubuntu :)11:16
capnemobut a bit confused to see no dialog to set the root password !11:17
capnemoat the install phase !11:17
amathiscapnemo: ubuntu uses sudo11:17
amathisbut, if you want a root password, type 'sudo passwd root'11:17
farruinncapnemo, there was a dialog that said you wouldn't be setting a password11:18
pdaoustthis is weird; can't use my Olympus MAUSB-4W card reader in Ubuntu. Apparently it uses Sandisk SDDR-09 drivers, which of course are compiled into the stock Warty kernel (as modules), but a quick look at /proc/bus/usb/whateverit'scalled11:18
mAIJKWhen Im setting up fluxbox I get this error: " Perl: warning: Setting locate failed - perl: warning: please check that your loacale settings and so on ..."11:19
capnemoamathis, sudo is oki for some applications but it's a bit silly to forget that11:19
marsjayswhat does "not authenticated" mean in the "mark additional required changes?" dialog in synaptic?11:19
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TgII have a question > I am trying to install ubuntu with a cd but the installation says he can`t find my cd-rom drive (but i am booting from that cd-rom:S) Can somebody help me?11:20
farruinnmarsjays, has synaptic been open for a long time?11:20
marsjaysfarruinn: nope11:20
KosaiTgI: How is the CD drive connected?11:20
TgIKosai > With a IDE cable11:21
KosaiOh.  That's odd.11:21
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TgIKosai > And the Live CD works fine:S11:21
marsjaysfarruinn: oh, updated my package lists and now it's gone11:22
farruinnmarsjays: huh, that's an odd error for that11:22
marsjaysfarruinn: though i got a message that one of my apt-sources .. umm.. wait, i'll check11:23
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mathmonkHello: I can't get my synaptics cpad to work on ubuntu.  Does anyone know how to make it work ?11:24
marsjaysfarruinn: something about signatures that couldn't be verified because public key is not available, GPG error when i update my package lists11:24
farruinnmarsjays: you're running hoary?11:24
marsjaysfarruinn: yes11:24
mathmonkanyone, please ?11:25
TgIKosai > do you know an anser for my problem?11:25
capnemorhaaa i feel in jail with ubuntu !!!!11:25
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marsjaysmathmonk: maybe this http://www.janerob.com/rob/ts5100/cPad/index.shtml can help you (google -> "synaptic cpad linux" -> i'm feeling lucky :)11:26
mathmonkmarsjays: thanks, I will try it out.11:27
JStrikecapnemo : It wasn't forgotten. It was left out on purpose11:27
TgICan somebody else help me?11:28
marsjaysmathmonk: um, not sure if that's what you want though.. check out the xfree86-driver-synaptics och xorg-driver-synaptics (depending on which X you run)11:29
farruinnTgI: does it happen every time you boot?11:29
marsjaysTgI: what kind of cdrom do you have?11:30
TgIFarruinn > Yes > i have make a keyboard selection and country > then he search for the cd-rom and tell`s me he can`t find that11:30
epotashif u dont use "11:30
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epotashdo shutdown, does it like lock the harddisk?11:31
emanuelezhello *11:31
TgII have the cd`s from ubuntu11:31
epotashor make it read only11:31
marsjaysTgI: yes, but your cdrom drive? is it standard IDE or is it SCSI or something else?11:32
TgIIt`s standard ide > The live cd works perfect11:32
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TgImarsjays > but the install cd is a big problem :(11:33
NexinarusHmm when ever i open a JPG with eog (eye of gnome, the picture viewer) it always crashes. no matter what.11:33
NexinarusI even reinstalled the package and it still crashes upon opening any picture11:33
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NexinarusIt used to work,11:34
farruinnNexinarus: are you in hoary?11:35
mAIJKWhy doesent my programs show in the blackbox menu ?11:35
Nexinarusim in the other one,11:35
QerubmAIJK: aptitude install menu11:35
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TgImarsjays > are you still there?11:37
marsjaysTgI: yes..11:38
marsjaysTgI: i don't know what might be wrong, my guess is that some driver is missing..11:38
fkocan anyone teache me how to share a connection? i have two nic, one "external" the second "internal"11:38
mAIJKQerub: Permission Denied, are you root? (How should I do to log in as root?)11:41
marsjaysmAIJK: sudo aptitude install menu11:42
mAIJKOhh, I wrote sudu ;)11:42
epotashhow big should i make my boot partition?11:43
mAIJKIm kind of new with this ;)11:43
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mAIJKwell, I run that aptitude thing, the computer did alot of thing but I don't see any different? ;o11:45
marsjaysepotash: if you're talking about your /boot, i think 50 MB would be enough..11:45
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Synekis seperate /boot partition realy necessary?11:46
marsjaysmAIJK: run update-menu (or something like that) and restart blackbox11:46
marsjaysSynek: no, not really11:46
Nexinarusepotash, about 32mb11:46
Nexinarusthat worked good for me11:47
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mAIJK"This Aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers" HAAHHAH ;)11:47
marsjaysSynek: i've been using linux for something like 4-6 years and never had a separate /boot until a few weeks ago (when i btw made it too small, so i can only have two kernels installed at once :-P )11:48
mAIJKmarsjays didn't work, or I wrote wrong11:48
Nexinarusheh only 2? i would think people only need 1..11:48
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marsjaysmAIJK: ok.. umm.. sudo update-menu?11:49
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marsjaysNexinarus: you don't want to know how many i had when i ran debian, before i installed ubuntu :)11:50
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marsjayshehe, i was almost right :)11:50
Synektab key is your friend ;)11:51
mAIJKtab key is your friend?11:51
mAIJKDo u think fluxbox is the best ?11:52
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epotashwhats wrong with gnome11:52
SynekHm, well, i usually have 3 kernels: one with all stuff, one i working on and one "testing"11:52
Cube-nessi like gnome a lot.. i like ROX a lot too11:53
SynekmAIJK: dunno, best for me, for sure ;)11:53
marsjaysbtw, anyone got a creative muvo2? can't get mine to work properly..11:53
marsjays(mount that is911:53
capnemohum .. to install kde i need to install 434Mb of package ... sounds a bit crazy lol :)11:53
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Nexinarusim rather pissed i cant view images..11:53
Nexinarusit worked a few weeks ago, and now it doesnt11:53
Nexinarusive installed a few things, but hmm11:54
SynekYou ca't?11:54
mAIJKI just installed Torsmo, how do I activate it?11:54
Syneks/ca't/can't ?11:54
Riddellcapnemo: that's the whole of KDE, you would be fine with kdelibs and kdebase11:54
SynekmAIJK: just type 'torso'?11:55
marsjaysNexinarus: i _think_ my eog was non-working a few days ago, but it works now.. when did you update last?11:55
Nexinarus10 minutes ago11:55
marsjaysok :-/11:55
mAIJKcommand not found11:55
Nexinarusi just updated eog.. nothing else..11:55
Nexinarusi cant afford to update everything else heh11:56
Nexinarus90mb.. ow11:56
farruinnNexinarus, does it print anything useful when you open eog from a terminal?11:56
marsjaysNexinarus: hehe ok.. (/me remembers the good ol' days, apt-get dist-upgrade on a 33k6 modem >X-c )11:57
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Nexinarusoh thanks farruinn, it does say alot of errors in the console11:58
SynekBeat me, on 115 apt-get ugrade is still a horror ;)11:58
farruinnNexinarus: you installed the packages it depends on, right?11:58
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AndyRlo ppl11:59
Nexinarusi use synaptic, it does it auto. ill upload the error log.. im sure the prob is obvious..11:59

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