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Burgundavia_anybody here?01:13
sivangyes me here01:13
sivangBurgundavia_, yo me here :)01:15
Burgundavia_ya, just wondering01:17
Burgundavia_kind of quiet01:17
Burgundavia_isn't it 4am there?01:18
sivang2am :)01:18
sivangback from the resturant?01:18
Burgundavia_yep01:19
sivangBurgundavia_, where do you go?01:21
Burgundavia_some argentinian, place, lots of meat01:23
sivangah I see, was Kinnison with you?01:27
Burgundavia_yep01:31
Burgundavia_I hope to get commit access by sometime before christmas, so I can start showing the changes I have made01:37
sivangBurgundavia_, to the svn of hornbeck right?01:38
Burgundavia_yep01:42
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Burgundavia_hey douglas01:52
douglashey got here :)01:52
sivangyo douglas 01:53
sivang'suup? :)01:53
douglashehe01:53
sivanginterested in writing/translating/helping on the doc team?01:53
douglasim wishing to join the ubuntu docs team01:53
douglasyep01:53
sivangor have I met you on Mataro and I don't remember ...01:53
Burgundavia_I lured him over from #docs on gimpnet01:53
sivangBurgundavia_, you pimp! :)01:53
douglashehehe01:53
sivangdouglas, are you familiar with docbook?01:54
douglashow to do ?01:54
douglasnope yet01:54
sivangok, have you already helped with GNOME docs?01:54
douglasnope01:54
douglasi becoming shy... (red)01:55
douglashehehe01:55
douglaswell, just switched to ubuntu and want to help in anything, i was a long slackware user01:55
douglasbut i have experience with REST format01:56
douglasim helping the translation of a python book to portuguse01:56
douglasportuguese01:56
sivangwowow01:56
sivangthat's WAY cool!01:56
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douglasim brazilian01:57
douglashehehe01:57
douglasand you ?01:57
Burgundavia_sorry, on rest break01:57
douglasbrazilian too ?01:57
Burgundavia_anyway, back the channel topic01:57
Burgundavia_I was playing with rosetta today. If I can get xml to po working, we can use it for translating our stuff01:58
Burgundavia_launchpad.ubuntu.com01:58
douglasi was talking to a guy called daf and he was saying something about a python app to help on translation01:59
Burgundavia_yah, that is one of the rosetta team02:00
Burgundavia_where were you talking with him?02:00
douglason the ubuntu-mataro channel02:00
douglaswhere i can start ?02:00
douglasi can do code, docs and webmastering things too02:01
Burgundavia_ah, there is a dedicated channel #rosetta on this server for it too02:01
Burgundavia_have you ever worked on yelp02:01
douglasnope too... is there something where i can start ?02:02
douglasim a complete newbie on the gnome, ubuntu communities02:03
Burgundavia_currently we are working on several things02:03
sivangdouglas, ok that's really not that hard to get the grip of it :)02:03
Burgundavia_quickguide is the push for hoary relaes in april02:03
douglasok02:03
Burgundavia_we are also working the usersguide and merging in the stuff from ubuntuguide.org02:04
Burgundavia_my personal drive, and something I have said will be done for hoary is the quickguide02:04
Burgundavia_But the problem is that colour png embedded in svg displayed in docbook don't render correctly02:05
douglasfirst... i know it is a dumb one, but what is docbook ?02:06
sivangdouglas, no it's not!02:06
sivang:)02:06
sivangnot everybody knows what docbook is :)02:06
sivangdouglas, so, do you know html?02:06
sivangor have you ever seen xml?02:07
Burgundavia_docbook is xml02:07
douglashehehe02:07
sivangdouglas, well, more precisly docbook is basically xml formatted text file, using a special style sheet (just as in html) afterwards to achive differnet rendring styles.02:08
douglashtml yep and xml too, but never played with it02:08
Burgundavia_sorry, I should have said s in02:08
sivangbut do check one of the docteam memenrs fine short tutorial on that:02:08
Burgundavia_www.docbook.org02:08
sivanghttp://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocBook02:08
Burgundavia_it appears that all of launchpad is down now02:09
sivangwell, docbook.org is hardly anyway suited at new comers, read that howto on the wiki, then move to the official site for more reading :)02:09
Burgundavia_ya02:09
sivangbut you could go writing using Christoph's tutorial, and use the already availavle templates to just fill contact in the right places.02:10
sivanga very good task for getting familiar with docbook, is trying to work out the gnome docs for hoary.02:10
douglasyep that is where i would like to enter02:10
sivangthey are written in docbook, and basically, what we need to do there, is find out places in which we differ from GNOME stock,02:11
sivangand reflect that in the documentation.02:11
Burgundavia_it is often easier to just start hacking on existing stuff02:11
douglasok02:17
sivangdouglas : just noticed that you are barzillina!02:19
sivangdouglas : I just _adore_ brazillina portuguese02:19
douglasdo you talk portuguese too ?02:19
sivangdouglas : do you know the tv series drama , "Presencia de anita" ?02:19
sivangdouglas, I wish!02:20
sivangI'm from Israel my freind, dreams of traveling to brazil someday02:20
douglasyep i saw it02:21
douglasthat girl sure is pretty ;)02:21
sivangyes she is!02:21
sivanghehe02:21
sivangshe knows how to act also02:21
douglasyep02:21
douglasshe is a pretty good and is starring a novel here02:22
Burgundavia_night02:31
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sid77hi09:09
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Burgundavia_anyboyd here?09:26
sid77pong09:28
KinnisonMarning09:31
Burgundavia_morning09:31
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Burgundavia_sorry dude, I had no bananas or maple sprinkles, but most importantly the maple sprinkles09:32
KinnisonIf it wasn't bananas or maple sprinkles then what was it?09:32
Burgundavia_it wasn09:33
Burgundavia_'t me09:33
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Burgundavia_found a cool tool for internationalization09:43
Burgundavia_called poxml09:43
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cenerentolaciao a tutti10:41
cenerentolahttp://www.jwz.org/hacks/rms-deathmetal.mp310:52
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plovsChrisH, can you sinc with svn?11:43
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sivanghi akk01:21
sivangall01:21
sivangwhere is lu?01:21
plovs_worksivang, hi, can you sync with svn?01:26
sivangplovs_work, lemme try01:27
sivangplovs_work, updating..01:34
sivangrev 8901:34
sivangseems it worked no problem01:34
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ChrisHplovs: sync doesn't work here either...02:11
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douglashi !04:29
Burgundavia_hey04:30
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luluhi guys04:45
luluhas anyone changed the security notices page?04:45
luluit's now in Italian04:45
lululast changed at 12:57 today04:45
cenerentolanot me really...04:46
cenerentola;)04:46
Burgundavia_sorry, I don't speak italian or have access to the site04:47
cenerentolawell the only italian in here its me...04:48
cenerentolaits not correct04:49
cenerentolalulu: there are a lot of grammatical mistakes04:49
lulucenerentola: I am trying to find out who changed the security notices page to Italian...do you know?04:50
cenerentolawell it says Mark Shuttleworth... ;)04:50
luluthat was created by. it's not a joke. 04:51
cenerentolais there any kind of restriction on that page04:51
cenerentola?04:51
cenerentolaim sorry the only think that i can say is that it seems like it was translated by a program [like google translations] : its not really good italian04:53
luluthanks. and yes - only a manager has access to this page. I'm investigating - thanks.04:54
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Kinnisonheyhi sivang 06:34
Burgundavia_hey sivang06:34
douglashey sivang :)06:35
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Kinnison 06:36
sivangHi everybody!06:37
sivangKinnison,  !06:37
sivanghi douglas 06:38
sivanghi Burgundavia_ 06:38
sivanghasn't everybody gone dancing ?06:38
douglashi06:38
douglasit would be a good ideia :)06:39
Kinnisonsivang: what character is that between the yods?06:39
Burgundavia_nah, we haven't gone for dinner yet06:39
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sivangbye Kinnison 06:46
sivangbon appetit06:46
sivangKinnison, it's a dalte06:46
sivangKinnison, it's a dalet06:46
sivangKinnison, which is the hebrew letter for saying "Da|Di|Dee" etc..06:46
cenerentolaim off06:58
cenerentolaciao a tutti06:58
sivangciao a cenerentola 06:59
sivangarivederci06:59
cenerentolaciao /quit07:03
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douglashey people11:20
douglasdo anyone here already used rosetta ?11:20
douglasanother question...11:22
douglasin english what is the difference in the words file and archive ?11:22
ChrisHAn "archive" contains other files (e.g. tar, zip). A file just stands for itself.11:40
douglasthanks11:48
douglasthe problem is that in brazil we use commonly the same word to describe the too things 11:48
douglasi will study in how to solve this11:48

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