[01:13] <Burgundavia_> anybody here?
[01:13] <sivang> yes me here
[01:15] <sivang> Burgundavia_, yo me here :)
[01:17] <Burgundavia_> ya, just wondering
[01:17] <Burgundavia_> kind of quiet
[01:18] <Burgundavia_> isn't it 4am there?
[01:18] <sivang> 2am :)
[01:18] <sivang> back from the resturant?
[01:19] <Burgundavia_> yep
[01:21] <sivang> Burgundavia_, where do you go?
[01:23] <Burgundavia_> some argentinian, place, lots of meat
[01:27] <sivang> ah I see, was Kinnison with you?
[01:31] <Burgundavia_> yep
[01:37] <Burgundavia_> I hope to get commit access by sometime before christmas, so I can start showing the changes I have made
[01:38] <sivang> Burgundavia_, to the svn of hornbeck right?
[01:42] <Burgundavia_> yep
[01:52] <Burgundavia_> hey douglas
[01:52] <douglas> hey got here :)
[01:53] <sivang> yo douglas 
[01:53] <sivang> 'suup? :)
[01:53] <douglas> hehe
[01:53] <sivang> interested in writing/translating/helping on the doc team?
[01:53] <douglas> im wishing to join the ubuntu docs team
[01:53] <douglas> yep
[01:53] <sivang> or have I met you on Mataro and I don't remember ...
[01:53] <Burgundavia_> I lured him over from #docs on gimpnet
[01:53] <sivang> Burgundavia_, you pimp! :)
[01:53] <douglas> hehehe
[01:54] <sivang> douglas, are you familiar with docbook?
[01:54] <douglas> how to do ?
[01:54] <douglas> nope yet
[01:54] <sivang> ok, have you already helped with GNOME docs?
[01:54] <douglas> nope
[01:55] <douglas> i becoming shy... (red)
[01:55] <douglas> hehehe
[01:55] <douglas> well, just switched to ubuntu and want to help in anything, i was a long slackware user
[01:56] <douglas> but i have experience with REST format
[01:56] <douglas> im helping the translation of a python book to portuguse
[01:56] <douglas> portuguese
[01:56] <sivang> wowow
[01:56] <sivang> that's WAY cool!
[01:57] <douglas> im brazilian
[01:57] <douglas> hehehe
[01:57] <douglas> and you ?
[01:57] <Burgundavia_> sorry, on rest break
[01:57] <douglas> brazilian too ?
[01:57] <Burgundavia_> anyway, back the channel topic
[01:58] <Burgundavia_> I was playing with rosetta today. If I can get xml to po working, we can use it for translating our stuff
[01:58] <Burgundavia_> launchpad.ubuntu.com
[01:59] <douglas> i was talking to a guy called daf and he was saying something about a python app to help on translation
[02:00] <Burgundavia_> yah, that is one of the rosetta team
[02:00] <Burgundavia_> where were you talking with him?
[02:00] <douglas> on the ubuntu-mataro channel
[02:00] <douglas> where i can start ?
[02:01] <douglas> i can do code, docs and webmastering things too
[02:01] <Burgundavia_> ah, there is a dedicated channel #rosetta on this server for it too
[02:01] <Burgundavia_> have you ever worked on yelp
[02:02] <douglas> nope too... is there something where i can start ?
[02:03] <douglas> im a complete newbie on the gnome, ubuntu communities
[02:03] <Burgundavia_> currently we are working on several things
[02:03] <sivang> douglas, ok that's really not that hard to get the grip of it :)
[02:03] <Burgundavia_> quickguide is the push for hoary relaes in april
[02:03] <douglas> ok
[02:04] <Burgundavia_> we are also working the usersguide and merging in the stuff from ubuntuguide.org
[02:04] <Burgundavia_> my personal drive, and something I have said will be done for hoary is the quickguide
[02:05] <Burgundavia_> But the problem is that colour png embedded in svg displayed in docbook don't render correctly
[02:06] <douglas> first... i know it is a dumb one, but what is docbook ?
[02:06] <sivang> douglas, no it's not!
[02:06] <sivang> :)
[02:06] <sivang> not everybody knows what docbook is :)
[02:06] <sivang> douglas, so, do you know html?
[02:07] <sivang> or have you ever seen xml?
[02:07] <Burgundavia_> docbook is xml
[02:07] <douglas> hehehe
[02:08] <sivang> douglas, well, more precisly docbook is basically xml formatted text file, using a special style sheet (just as in html) afterwards to achive differnet rendring styles.
[02:08] <douglas> html yep and xml too, but never played with it
[02:08] <Burgundavia_> sorry, I should have said s in
[02:08] <sivang> but do check one of the docteam memenrs fine short tutorial on that:
[02:08] <Burgundavia_> www.docbook.org
[02:08] <sivang> http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DocBook
[02:09] <Burgundavia_> it appears that all of launchpad is down now
[02:09] <sivang> well, docbook.org is hardly anyway suited at new comers, read that howto on the wiki, then move to the official site for more reading :)
[02:09] <Burgundavia_> ya
[02:10] <sivang> but you could go writing using Christoph's tutorial, and use the already availavle templates to just fill contact in the right places.
[02:10] <sivang> a very good task for getting familiar with docbook, is trying to work out the gnome docs for hoary.
[02:10] <douglas> yep that is where i would like to enter
[02:11] <sivang> they are written in docbook, and basically, what we need to do there, is find out places in which we differ from GNOME stock,
[02:11] <sivang> and reflect that in the documentation.
[02:11] <Burgundavia_> it is often easier to just start hacking on existing stuff
[02:17] <douglas> ok
[02:19] <sivang> douglas : just noticed that you are barzillina!
[02:19] <sivang> douglas : I just _adore_ brazillina portuguese
[02:19] <douglas> do you talk portuguese too ?
[02:19] <sivang> douglas : do you know the tv series drama , "Presencia de anita" ?
[02:20] <sivang> douglas, I wish!
[02:20] <sivang> I'm from Israel my freind, dreams of traveling to brazil someday
[02:21] <douglas> yep i saw it
[02:21] <douglas> that girl sure is pretty ;)
[02:21] <sivang> yes she is!
[02:21] <sivang> hehe
[02:21] <sivang> she knows how to act also
[02:21] <douglas> yep
[02:22] <douglas> she is a pretty good and is starring a novel here
[02:31] <Burgundavia_> night
[09:09] <sid77> hi
[09:26] <Burgundavia_> anyboyd here?
[09:28] <sid77> pong
[09:31] <Kinnison> Marning
[09:31] <Burgundavia_> morning
[09:32] <Burgundavia_> sorry dude, I had no bananas or maple sprinkles, but most importantly the maple sprinkles
[09:32] <Kinnison> If it wasn't bananas or maple sprinkles then what was it?
[09:33] <Burgundavia_> it wasn
[09:33] <Burgundavia_> 't me
[09:43] <Burgundavia_> found a cool tool for internationalization
[09:43] <Burgundavia_> called poxml
[10:41] <cenerentola> ciao a tutti
[10:52] <cenerentola> http://www.jwz.org/hacks/rms-deathmetal.mp3
[11:43] <plovs> ChrisH, can you sinc with svn?
[01:21] <sivang> hi akk
[01:21] <sivang> all
[01:21] <sivang> where is lu?
[01:26] <plovs_work> sivang, hi, can you sync with svn?
[01:27] <sivang> plovs_work, lemme try
[01:34] <sivang> plovs_work, updating..
[01:34] <sivang> rev 89
[01:34] <sivang> seems it worked no problem
[02:11] <ChrisH> plovs: sync doesn't work here either...
[04:29] <douglas> hi !
[04:30] <Burgundavia_> hey
[04:45] <lulu> hi guys
[04:45] <lulu> has anyone changed the security notices page?
[04:45] <lulu> it's now in Italian
[04:45] <lulu> last changed at 12:57 today
[04:46] <cenerentola> not me really...
[04:46] <cenerentola> ;)
[04:47] <Burgundavia_> sorry, I don't speak italian or have access to the site
[04:48] <cenerentola> well the only italian in here its me...
[04:49] <cenerentola> its not correct
[04:49] <cenerentola> lulu: there are a lot of grammatical mistakes
[04:50] <lulu> cenerentola: I am trying to find out who changed the security notices page to Italian...do you know?
[04:50] <cenerentola> well it says Mark Shuttleworth... ;)
[04:51] <lulu> that was created by. it's not a joke. 
[04:51] <cenerentola> is there any kind of restriction on that page
[04:51] <cenerentola> ?
[04:53] <cenerentola> im sorry the only think that i can say is that it seems like it was translated by a program [like google translations] : its not really good italian
[04:54] <lulu> thanks. and yes - only a manager has access to this page. I'm investigating - thanks.
[06:34] <Kinnison> heyhi sivang 
[06:34] <Burgundavia_> hey sivang
[06:35] <douglas> hey sivang :)
[06:36] <Kinnison>  
[06:37] <sivang> Hi everybody!
[06:37] <sivang> Kinnison,  !
[06:38] <sivang> hi douglas 
[06:38] <sivang> hi Burgundavia_ 
[06:38] <sivang> hasn't everybody gone dancing ?
[06:38] <douglas> hi
[06:39] <douglas> it would be a good ideia :)
[06:39] <Kinnison> sivang: what character is that between the yods?
[06:39] <Burgundavia_> nah, we haven't gone for dinner yet
[06:46] <sivang> bye Kinnison 
[06:46] <sivang> bon appetit
[06:46] <sivang> Kinnison, it's a dalte
[06:46] <sivang> Kinnison, it's a dalet
[06:46] <sivang> Kinnison, which is the hebrew letter for saying "Da|Di|Dee" etc..
[06:58] <cenerentola> im off
[06:58] <cenerentola> ciao a tutti
[06:59] <sivang> ciao a cenerentola 
[06:59] <sivang> arivederci
[07:03] <cenerentola> ciao /quit
[11:20] <douglas> hey people
[11:20] <douglas> do anyone here already used rosetta ?
[11:22] <douglas> another question...
[11:22] <douglas> in english what is the difference in the words file and archive ?
[11:40] <ChrisH> An "archive" contains other files (e.g. tar, zip). A file just stands for itself.
[11:48] <douglas> thanks
[11:48] <douglas> the problem is that in brazil we use commonly the same word to describe the too things 
[11:48] <douglas> i will study in how to solve this