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| plovs | hi all | 11:47 |
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| douglas | hi plovs | 11:50 |
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| sivang | hi siretart | 04:28 |
| siretart | hi sivang | 04:28 |
| siretart | I contributed 2 Howtos for the ubuntu wiki. Is this the channel for coordination in the wiki? | 04:29 |
| sivang | also :) | 04:29 |
| sivang | it's also the channel for the ubutnu documentation team and other related stuff | 04:29 |
| siretart | ah, ok. then I'm right here, I think :) | 04:30 |
| sivang | you're always right here! as long as you follow the code of conduct :) | 04:30 |
| siretart | :) | 04:30 |
| siretart | I'm just looking at https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto. Perhaps it would be better to explain how to copy files with nautilus instead using scp | 04:31 |
| siretart | in respect of the target audience of the howto. I mean, an experienced users would know how to read scp(1) | 04:32 |
| sivang | siretart, sounds like a good point, did you check if the nautilus docs already talk about that? | 04:32 |
| siretart | sivang: no, I don't find it in nautilus manual. But browsing in the local filesystem is. And browsing using "ssh://" urls is very transparent and intuitive | 04:34 |
| sivang | siretart : ok, I looked into it. It could benefit from a section of how to do stuff the "GUI" way after setting up, would you be interested in adding it? | 04:36 |
| siretart | jepp, i'll give it a try | 04:37 |
| sivang | you know how to login into the wiki? | 04:37 |
| siretart | btw: where did the howto index go? | 04:37 |
| siretart | sivang: I'm ReinhardTartler in the wiki | 04:37 |
| siretart | sivang: ok, updated | 04:44 |
| sivang | siretart, cool. thanks! | 04:44 |
| sivang | siretart, where is the part explaining about using nautilus to copy files ? | 04:46 |
| siretart | I called it Browsing with Nautilus over ssh | 04:47 |
| siretart | perhaps I should mention that copying is done via drag and drop, just like in local folders.. wait a minute.. | 04:47 |
| siretart | sentence added | 04:51 |
| sivang | good, now I see it. Thank you siretart | 04:55 |
| siretart | you're welcome | 04:55 |
| plovs | siretart: i used scp because copying with nautilus is kinda slow, but i agree that we should have both. And thanks for writing on the wiki! | 05:12 |
| plovs | sivang: svn is back online | 05:13 |
| siretart | plovs: what do you mean with nautilus is kinda slow? for a single file there should not be much difference, and for multiple files I think scp i quite unhandy. I personally prefer rsync over scp, but thats an other story.. | 05:15 |
| plovs | siretart: rsync, now that is an Howto i would like to see | 05:16 |
| siretart | btw: I see that there are many orphaned howtos. How about categorizing them? | 05:16 |
| plovs | siretart: how? | 05:17 |
| siretart | I think of categories of "system maintenance", "file householding", "desktop enhancements", "networking" etc, and making the howtos subpages of them | 05:18 |
| plovs | good idea, go ahead if you want, and a page with orphaned howto's is also a good idea | 05:19 |
| siretart | At the moment there doesn't exist any overview of all howtos in the wiki | 05:19 |
| siretart | plovs: where should this page go? Wiki -> DocumentationArea? | 05:19 |
| plovs | How about ... wiki is opening slow atm | 05:22 |
| siretart | website too. heavy load on zope? | 05:23 |
| plovs | zope is slowish | 05:23 |
| plovs | There is a page called HowTo, under it are the howto's, why not write the pages on that pages and put them under there? | 05:25 |
| siretart | I think they used to be there, but some days ago I noticed all howtos beeing orphaned | 05:25 |
| siretart | no Idea why | 05:26 |
| plovs | somebody might have accidently removed them, so we should move them back | 05:26 |
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| plovs | ChrisH: hi! | 10:48 |
| ChrisH | plovs: re-hi :) | 10:48 |
| plovs | natasha is reading other stuff :-) | 10:49 |
| ChrisH | proofreading? | 10:49 |
| plovs | no, recipies and other woman stuff | 10:50 |
| plovs | and i am trying to install openoffice pre 2.o | 10:50 |
| plovs | how are you? | 10:51 |
| plovs | did you figure out how to do those links? | 10:51 |
| ChrisH | Okay so far. Yesterday I had to have a one-day-grandma-in-law-visit so I accomplished nothing. And currently I'm struggling with VPN (neither racoon nor freeswan work correctly since I use kernel 2.6). | 10:51 |
| ChrisH | [links] Do the references a I wrote them in the DocbookReference not work? | 10:52 |
| plovs | no, but that might be because it is different documents | 10:52 |
| ChrisH | Hmmm. | 10:52 |
| plovs | vpn stuff is tricky | 10:53 |
| plovs | it took me a week to get it to work, and then we found out the guys on the other end where to blame :-) | 10:53 |
| plovs | ChrisH: did you get it from svn? | 10:54 |
| ChrisH | plovs: What did i get from the svn? | 10:55 |
| ChrisH | [links] http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/link.html could help | 10:55 |
| ChrisH | [links] Do you want to link to a URL? Or to an anchor in the same document (not the same "file" but the same "document" in terms of everything that gets included)? | 10:56 |
| plovs | i want to do exactly what you wrote in the wiki, but to another file (NOT another doc) | 10:57 |
| ChrisH | I had assumed that xref would even work here. Strange. | 10:57 |
| plovs | Read <xref linkend="general_notes"/>. shows up without the link | 11:00 |
| plovs | but in the doc you send are some other ways to do it | 11:01 |
| plovs | i made a typo, but even without that it doesn't work | 11:11 |
| ChrisH | Using hyperlinks is probably not a good idea either since that would break in yelp. | 11:11 |
| plovs | but it would be great if we could get it to work | 11:12 |
| ChrisH | Yes, definitely what we will need at some point. | 11:12 |
| plovs | well, i'm just toying with it anyway | 11:12 |
| plovs | ok, time to sleep | 11:13 |
| ChrisH | There will still be technical issues from time to time. Like the yelp developer told sivan that we are "abusing" DocBook in a way that may in the future be incompatible with yelp. But he didn't elaborate. | 11:13 |
| plovs | we should ask him, i'll mail sivang | 11:14 |
| plovs | good night | 11:14 |
| ChrisH | nite | 11:14 |
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