[12:02] one good thing is that a lot of development is being done by redhat & other employees [12:03] so they can shake out a lot of issues [12:14] hi trulux [12:15] hi pitti [12:15] ? [12:15] tseng, w00! [12:15] :) === srbaker [~srbaker@dpc67446114.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === sivang [~sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === aes [~andrew@dsl-212-23-23-154.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp485126pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] alright [12:32] https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/IdeaPool I put some recommendations under the "enhancements" section about the child safe mode. I really suggest looking into Dan's Guardian for that. [12:33] I've made my machine actually hijack outgoing HTTP packets and forward to Squid. You might be able to do the same with DG (which means root controls the local machine's http proxying); or you might just be able to point squid at DG === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === amu [~amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === srbaker [~srbaker@dpc67446114.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === jamesh [~james@203-59-217-65.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:21] thanks pitti === Nigelenki [~bluefox@pcp485126pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-191-099.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:elmo] : Ubuntu development -- ARE WE NEARLY THERE YET? -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Want to help Hoary? see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals | *.ubuntu.com going down for reboot === Burgundavia_ [~rasputin@67.110.41.3.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:50] hey all [01:53] hey Burgundavia_ , I was just on my way to bed. [01:55] I am still in transit [01:55] Burgundavia_: you are ? god.. [01:55] I am in Minneapllis-St. Paul airport [01:55] My last flight leaves in 2 hours [01:55] Burgundavia_: I knew the flight back to the us was only 13 hours from europ to us [01:55] ah sorry, canada [01:55] ya, but I had to stay a night in London [01:56] Burgundavia_: ah, what for? :) [01:56] I couldn't get a flight out of Barcelona soon enough to catch the flights westbound out of London, whcih stop at abou 2pm [01:57] so you're basically 3 days on the road? [01:57] but hey, it's already one week _after_ the _end_ of the conf.. [01:57] wierd [01:57] no it is not [01:58] oh, I spent a day and a half in Barcelona, to see the city [01:58] ah nice [01:58] it was nice [01:58] now comes the marathon home [01:58] Burgundavia_: anyway, this is probably off topic or more suited at u-doc :) and I'm off anyway.. [01:58] I still have a night to stay in Vancouver [01:58] cya [01:58] Burgundavia_: cheers! === elmo__ [~james@82.211.81.249] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#ubuntu-devel:elmo__] : Ubuntu development -- ARE WE NEARLY THERE YET? -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Want to help Hoary? see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals [01:59] everything should be back to normal, please report any problems === srbaker_ [~srbaker@dpc67446114.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-46-94.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:13] I just committed to CVS support for running a local copy of BIND 9 which [03:13] acts as a caching nameserver. Actually, I guess I shouldn't say [03:13] "support", because it's actually now required. [03:13] [03:14] ^ NetworkManager [03:17] someone should make really loud noise about the apt-gpg stuff in the community.... the ppl seem quite lost [03:18] 'someone'? 'stuff'? [03:19] apt-gpg seems to be in defult hoary now..... [03:19] yes? [03:20] if there is no gpg set up you get an error [03:20] you get a confirmation request [03:20] so the people not knowing what gpg is are quite lost on the error [03:22] there were several questions in #ubuntu tonight === Fwiffo_ [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:24] ogra: what is apt-gpg ? :) [03:25] sivang: still awake ? :) http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary [03:26] ogra: yes, fighting with the gtk tutorial :) [03:26] sivang: hero.... go on !! :) its worth it for any other language :) [03:28] ogra: hehe thanks :) I will have faith as you encourage me :) [03:28] ogra: so how do I get hold of the archive.ubuntu.com public keys? [03:29] http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x40976EAF437D05B5 [03:29] jdub: are we requiring users to have a caching nameserver o their local systems? [03:29] jdub: as per NetworkMangaer? [03:29] sivang: no [03:30] ogra: there's an ubuntu-keyring package [03:30] or should be [03:30] jdub: ah sorry, then I didn't understand what you said there about NetworkMangaer [03:30] bleh, in universe [03:30] elmo: ah great.... got no hoary handy atm :) [03:30] elmo: shouldn't it be in main? [03:31] elmo: universe ? [03:31] yes, it should be in main - mvo needs to propose it etc. [03:31] sivang: humour. [03:31] jdub: :-) [03:32] so what about squid inclusion in firefox ? [03:32] ogra: the humor continues? :) [03:33] or this one as january-calendar: http://www.grawert.net/mataro/img100.jpeg [03:33] dressmen *g* [03:34] ogra: I'll propose that to the artwork council :) [03:34] hehe === Fwiffo__ [~user@jep.dhcp.kampsax.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp485126pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === kergan [~zenrox@wbar7.sea1-4-10-181-189.sea1.dsl-verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:13] anyone here familiar with cpufreq from the driver side? [05:13] nope [05:13] is it possible to eg write your own speed tables? [05:13] oh :\ [05:13] you probly can [05:13] id asume you could [05:14] ok [05:15] the athlon64's only have three speeds set up from factory but it appears it wouldn't be too hard to make my own set for each fid [05:15] you know what exactly to add === Kamion ponders uploading glibc with scary auto-locale-transitioning code === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rabidbt [~rabidbt@66.45.74.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel === diego [~diego@user-0cetu7o.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:24] hi all. is anyone working on a graphical runlevel editor? otherwise, i'd be interested in writing one with pygtk [06:28] I recall seeing a bunch of those on freshmeat already [06:29] diego: gnome-system-tools ships one, but we don't enable or support it. [06:29] ah [06:29] jdub: why no support? [06:30] because "editing run levels" is not something users actually want to do [06:30] diego: there is a slightly broken one in gnome-system-tools, and there is also Fedora's system-config-services (written in Python) that might work with some changes [06:30] the interesting element of it is enabling and disabling particular services, generally sharing-oriented [06:30] diego: of course, if you aren't running any services neither is very useful [06:31] a good model to look at is the mac os x network and services stuff [06:31] jamesh: well, i don't use some of the stuff that's loading on boot and the boot times are pretty bad right now. [06:31] jdub: hmm...don't have a mac around :( [06:31] diego: you won't fix much of the boot time issue by disabling unnecessary services on warty [06:31] diego: a number of distro team guys have made pretty big improvements that should be in Hoary [06:31] diego: see planet.ubuntu.com :) [06:32] diego: hoary will have massive improvements on that front (unrelated to disabling services) [06:32] i'm on hoary [06:32] wait a bit :) [06:32] in any case, loading RAID for me is pointless, i'm on a laptop [06:33] and it costs you nothing :) [06:33] diego: well, you could make an USB Floppy RAID [06:34] (besides a scerrick of ram for mdadm, which will be fixed to not load in hoary) [06:34] diego: if you want to see where the time is being spent, you might want to play with the bootchart program [06:34] Treenaks: good call [06:34] diego: there are a bunch of things that are essentially noops during startup [06:34] diego: http://ohlssonvox.8k.com/fdd_raid.htm [06:34] google thinks I might have meant butchart [06:34] diego: none of them are things that normal users would want to enable/disable [06:34] diego: http://www.klika.si/ziga/bootchart/ [06:35] Treenaks: ty, that's horrifying [06:35] jamesh: i don't think i have the kind of knowledge to do anything about it myself even if i do know where slowdowns are [06:38] diego: sure. A program like bootchart can also tell you which bits of the boot process aren't impacting the speed [06:38] so you know which parts aren't worth optimising [06:39] what i'm trying to say is that i wouldn't know how to optimize in the first place === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:39] if you optimise a section of the code that runs for 5% of the time, you can get at best a 5% speed increase [06:49] jdub: can I change the seeds to replace the remaining python2.3 stuff with python2.4? [06:49] of course we'll have to wait for elmo to get back from holiday to do the universe->main moves, but still === ultrafunk [~pd@eth779.vic.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:11] lamont: could you requeue pyrex? it should build with a fixed python. [07:13] then dbus will build with a small build-dep tweak ... [07:13] Kamion: 'k [07:16] hrmpf. parted is ftbfs on 64-bit: amiga partitions cast pointers to int [07:19] haha [07:21] bob2: any chance of getting this patch applied? https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4889 [07:22] without it, bazaar is also broken on 64-bit systems :) === lamont sleeps. ELATENIGHT [07:25] jamesh: hrm, I thought we were autobuliding on amd64 [07:25] but seems not [07:26] lamont: I know, working with Sven to fix [07:28] bob2: I only saw i386 and PPC builds on bazaar.canonical.com [07:30] is anyone empowered to do universe->main moves while elmo's away? [07:31] morning [07:31] afaik no [07:31] Kamion: iirc germinate is parsed automatically isn't it? [07:32] universe->main moves aren't automatic [07:32] it's autobitch, not automove [07:33] ah ok :-) === Kamion sleeps [07:34] night Kamion [07:37] jamesh: building on i386, I'll push it up to pqm when it passes [07:39] bob2: cool. I'd be _very_ surprised if it makes any difference on i386 :) [08:06] yeah, but I'm paranoid :) [08:10] merged [08:17] except it's not === ironwolf [~ironwolf@c-24-6-169-124.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:28] Morning [08:30] hey pitti [08:37] hey pitti [08:37] bob2: morning :) [08:38] morning? it's 1836! [08:38] tho I only got up 3 hours ago, so I guess it evens out [08:38] bob2: you're 10 hours off then :) [08:39] Treenaks: that's because he lives on the wrong side of the world :P [08:39] fabbione: oh yeah, he's one of those Southern Hemispherians ;) [08:39] yeah [08:39] southern hemisphere > you [08:39] this update is taking forever [08:40] bob2: * > southern hemisphere [08:41] we don't need a minimum of 12 hours flight to reach a civilized country :) [08:43] have fun next conference, boyo :) [08:47] canberra takes ages to fly to though [08:50] jamesh: for a reason.. [08:51] actually, there are direct flights Perth -> Canberra [08:51] which come out at a little under 4 hours [08:51] there have been direct flights for decades [08:52] if I go through sydney the time goes up to 5:30 hours [08:54] east cost > west coast === warthylog [~warthylog@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Ubuntu development -- ARE WE NEARLY THERE YET? -- general discussion and support on #ubuntu | Want to help Hoary? see https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryGoals === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by elmo__ at Wed Dec 22 01:59:34 2004 [09:40] Hi seb128 [09:41] morning === martink [~martin@pD9EB3115.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:42] sebz0r === sid77 [~sid77@151.11.187.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:43] Hi mvo [09:45] hi pitti [09:48] pitti: you pinged? === cenerentola [~cenerento@84.222.38.88] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:49] Mithrandir: yesterday IIRC; it was again a request for patch review, already settled now; thanks anyway [09:49] ok [09:52] pitti: do you know if http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/11293 is fixed in warty ? [09:53] pitti: a guy says that his uptodate with security update warty machine has been rooted (and he has only ssh open) [09:54] seb128: yes, this has been fixed [09:55] seb128: but this is no remote vulnerability anyway, just an insecure tempfile issue [09:55] ok [09:55] seb128: I still have a bunch of things to fix, so maybe he got bitten by a very recent vuln [09:55] perhaps yep [09:55] seb128: currently it's like hell, I have about 70 issues still to review [09:56] :(( === fabbione [~fabbione@port49.ds1-van.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === carlos [~carlos@69.Red-80-33-181.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === herzi [~herzi@d123204.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:26] pitti: I HATE YOU [10:26] pitti: but there are the fixes in the mail itseld [10:26] itself [10:27] fabbione: yes, bitkeeper patch links [10:27] fabbione: don't hate me [10:27] fabbione: I'm at reviewing about 70 outstanding issues now [10:27] ehhehe [10:27] poor elmo [10:27] fabbione: I have to give away at least some of them [10:27] fabbione: this console resize thingy is the exploit I tested yesterday (which I told you about) [10:28] fabbione: darn, whenever I reviewed something, two new mails arrive in my security box [10:28] TO THE WORLD: stop finding security issues, it's nearly Christmas!!! === pitti sighs === dmsoulman [~dmsoulman@cae88-21-056.sc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:30] pitti: yeah.. i could guess that [10:30] fabbione: I don't have any further information to these kernel issues [10:30] fabbione: if these are not enough, we just have to wait for a bit [10:30] fabbione: but it already seems to be pretty good [10:30] pitti: well we can start merging these patches to start with [10:31] I don't think Hoary GTK was built with Xinerama support === fabbione backs out the ibooksleep patch for this release [10:31] jamesh: no it was not. i told seb128 === sid77 [~sid77@151.11.187.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] i can't make xauth to work [10:31] I HATE X [10:31] fabbione: that's OK, it hates you back [10:32] fabbione: still doesn't build? [10:34] bob2: eh? no i am trying to setup Xauth between a bunch of machines but i can't even make xterm working [10:34] fabbione: er, the ppc sleep patch [10:35] fabbione: there is a vnc server on your desktop === ogra ducks [10:35] AHHHH there it is! X -ac [10:35] heh === pinhead inflicts wonderfull pain to ogra [10:35] great :)) [10:36] bob2: it's too much troubles that patch for the moment [10:36] fair enoug [10:36] bob2: it compiles only for -powerpc kernels and it touches hell of a lot of common code [10:37] + benh is aware of a regression [10:37] ah [10:37] so it can wait one release or two [10:40] goodie.. time to expand my desktop to 4800x1200 [10:40] 3 HEADS [10:40] haha === pitti gets envious [10:40] pitti: wait that i can get the room as i want... [10:41] than it will be way bigger than that [10:41] fabbione: i think i found who's gonna help you/us with the sparc thing [10:41] brb === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-31-80.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === dmsoulman [~dmsoulman@cae88-21-056.sc.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === sid77 [~sid77@151.11.187.66] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@pD95F8280.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morgs [~morganc@wblv-146-202-148.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:29] ping doko [11:29] sivang: ping === sabdfl [~mark@213.9.209.4] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === Ygster [~ygster@marriere-1-82-67-136-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elmo [~james@83.216.141.215] has joined #ubuntu-devel === morgs [~morganc@wblv-146-202-148.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] [11:42] mvo: pong [11:56] cenerentola: and who is he/she? [11:57] pitti: some of the patches in that advisory are signed by Herbert [12:00] fabbione: I saw, yes [12:03] pitti: the first 2 urls fix problem num. 3 [12:04] 3rd url problem num. 1 [12:04] 4th url problem 2 [12:05] fabbione: so you will merge the first two BK patches to one dpatch? [12:05] pitti: hold on... [12:06] we already have the first 2 [12:06] * [SECURITY] scm_send local DoS fix (advisory: [12:06] http://www.isec.pl/vulnerabilities/isec-0019-scm.txt) (Andres Salomon). [12:06] Add patch: scm_send-dos-fix.dpatch. (CAN-2004-1016) [12:06] it's this one [12:06] i am checking if they are really the same [12:06] pitti: indeed they are [12:07] fabbione: oh, cool [12:07] fabbione: I only checked two exploits so far; the console resize one works, another doesn't [12:07] so we need to merge only vt-of-death and ipoptions [12:08] will all these be in .10? [12:08] Treenaks: yup... preparing it now :-) [12:08] fabbione: right, the DoS exploit was the one that didn't work [12:08] fabbione: 2.6.10-final ? [12:08] fabbione: it's out? [12:08] fabbione: btw, if you are at preparing patches, could you apply them to the Warty kernel as well? Herbert is not available [12:08] Treenaks: this are for our kernels [12:08] fabbione: ah ok [12:08] Treenaks: of course they are alredy in bk [12:09] pitti: humpf... ok [12:09] fabbione: thanks, dude [12:09] pitti: you will have to remind me the procedure to upload to security [12:10] fabbione: add "0.1" ubuntu's to the version (-16.5 now) and upload to warty-security [12:10] pitti: ok... [12:10] fabbione: I do the rest [12:10] i have 16.4 on the mirror.. so i will create .5 [12:17] pitti : pong === doko [doko@dsl-082-082-210-071.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mvo [~Michael@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:32] pitti: do we have the CAN for the last 2 thingy? [12:32] fabbione: no, sorry [12:35] ok === trulux [~lorenzo@67.Red-80-25-56.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] hi [12:41] pitti, hey! [12:41] hi trulux [12:41] trulux: sorry, I did not yet get to the ssp thingy [12:41] pitti, i'm going to spend some time on the rts and then some kernel stuff [12:41] trulux: I already spent all the day doing security udpates [12:42] pitti, i see, with ssp we wpouldn't need to spend too much time on them ;D [12:42] trulux: right, and neither with PaX. But I do have to do Warty updates === steve [~steve@static24-72-62-185.regina.accesscomm.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:57] pitti, i see [12:57] warty is not going to be changed except for security updates [12:57] trulux: and right now there are a hell of a lot issues [12:57] when Hoary will get released? [12:58] trulux: April 2004 [12:58] trulux: 2005, of course === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:11] pitti: building kernels for warty and hoary [01:11] pitti: we do agree that .5 will come out "only" with these 2 fixes? === mvo [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Simira [~rpGirl@ti511220a080-0898.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:14] pitti, nice [01:16] intresting.. pitti there is a race condition in ccache :-) [01:16] pitti: wanna fix it? [01:16] it makes gcc hangs forever === plovs_ [~plovs@195.13.248.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel === candyman [~candyman@gamma.sinetgy.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:27] hi [01:27] sladen: I am the poor sould whose tosh 3500 you helped install [01:28] fabbione: could you add the recent arch-x86_64-sys32_quotactl-overflow.dpatch to 16.5, too? [01:29] fabbione: ccache: sure; however, I did not read anything about it [01:30] pitti: anything else left? [01:31] fabbione: not from my side [01:33] ok === AndyFitz [~andy@220-245-97-227-qld-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === trukulo [~mzarza@26.Red-81-45-239.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:37] hi ppl [01:39] hey trukulo [01:41] fabbione: i have 3 debs, is there anything as experimental in ubuntu? or contributed packages? [01:42] i've made leafpad, gnomebaker and graveman [01:43] trukulo: no.. not really.. you need to put them up somewhere on your own atm [01:44] i have [01:44] i only ask if there's something centralized for ubuntu [01:44] you know what i mean [01:44] http://mercurio.homeip.net/debian/ [01:44] it's here [01:47] fabbione, trukulo: after advertising them to ubuntu-devel, we might put them into our universe [01:47] to mailing list? [01:48] graveman and gnomebaker are very unstable now [01:48] leafpad works like a charm [01:48] trukulo: yes, ML [01:48] ok pitti , i'll send a mail [01:49] but now, it's time for a cigarette [01:51] Kamion: ping === Ygster [~ygster@marriere-1-82-67-136-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:55] Keybuk: ping [01:55] jdub: ping [01:55] pitti: ello [02:06] elmo: still around? === mvo__ [~egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] elmo: if you are, moving python-pyrex to main and then python2.4-dbus, python2.4-dictclient, python2.4-librdf, python2.4-pycurl, python2.4-samba, libxml2-python2.4, libxslt1-python2.4, python2.4-subversion to replace earlier 2.3 versions would be cool === Ygster [~ygster@marriere-1-82-67-136-38.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:14] hey. a collegue of mine tried installing warty on an old box (some i686 with a Voodoo Banshee) last night, and apparently X failed to start after the reboot. [02:14] does anyone know what information would be useful for a bugreport? [02:15] (i assume Xfree86.log, syslog, and the results of lspci ? ) [02:15] pitti, see the reply on the gcc thread [02:15] robtaylor: those would be nice - kernel log? [02:15] Treenaks: ok, cool [02:15] robtaylor: oh and the X config file that got generated [02:17] Kamion: did someone do seeds already? [02:19] never mind === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp485126pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:21] oh, you did it, cool [02:21] Treenaks: is that /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? (not sitting at a warty box right now..) [02:21] I asked jdub last night about modifying them but he wasn't around [02:22] I committed it 'cos I think it comes under the "obvious" rule [02:22] how often does your master seed list get updated?> [02:24] robtaylor: yes [02:24] 5,20,35,50, but I just did it [02:25] Treenaks: thanks :) [02:26] hmm, that got the promotions, but not the demotions [02:26] ubuntu-desktop still depends on the old stuff [02:26] I'll fix it up once everything's built [02:26] (dbus is still to build, that's what the pyrex stuff was about ...) [02:26] ah [02:27] ubuntu-meta is a liability sometimes in seed terms :( [02:27] okay, done on jackass, prop in 10 mins [02:28] ta [02:31] elmo: did anything happen to the website in the past hour? I cannot login any more [02:34] fabbione: please hold on uploading 16.5 [02:34] pitti: not that I'm aware of [02:35] TOO LATE [02:35] fabbione: okay [02:35] Uploading via ftp linux-source-2.6.8.1_2.6.8.1-16.5_source.changes: done. [02:35] Successfully uploaded packages. [02:35] i did it like 2 minutes ago [02:35] pitti: authserver seems fine [02:35] elmo: hmm, I try again in some minutes. Thanks [02:37] pitti: meh, it doesn't work for me either [02:41] elmo: (hm, will python2.4-dbus auto-propagate when it finally builds?) [02:43] not auto no [02:47] -16.5 ?? [02:48] does firefox really not have a way to ask about cookies? === plovs [~plovs@195.13.248.84] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:59] moof [03:00] hey lamont [03:01] Can't find source for charmap.app_0.2-4 === lamont grumbles === bluefoxicy [~bluefox@pcp485126pcs.whtmrs01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ogra [~ogra@pD95F8280.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Capri [~makolb@217.188.230.116] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:15] hey [03:15] lamont: aj said something about running rene and leaving out charmap.app earlier, fwiw [03:16] azeem: yeah, was/is an issue in debian for some time, is now an ubuntu issue too. [03:16] uh? [03:18] ubuntu-meta uploaded with python2.4 changes [03:19] the samba/smbfs stuff in warty is broken since last update. I can not write to shares. touch: setting times of `test.txt': Input/output error ... another client (Sid with smbfs 3.0.9-1) works. [03:22] hmm, not convinced we'll be able to excise all of python2.3 from desktop before elmo leaves [03:23] Kamion: no biggie if not? [03:23] pitti: website's back [03:23] elmo: cool, thanks [03:23] elmo: just annoying me for CD size, that's all :-) [03:23] (you're right) [03:24] elmo: charmap.app fail-to-fetch message from our archive this morning... then again, only 1 of them. [03:26] lamont: thanks for getting multisync into universe, btw [03:26] lamont: did hal's dep-wait auto-clear? [03:27] kamion: I saw it get accepted [03:27] oh I'm very stupid and looking at the wrong build logs [03:31] does anyone know where suse's srpms are? [03:32] on ftp.suse.com ? [03:33] elmo: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/suse/src/ [03:33] boggle [03:34] elmo: don't ask why they hide the sources below the i386 dir [03:34] pitti: what about for updates? [03:34] A memory leak in the ip_conntrack_ftp firewalling module was fixed [03:34] in the 2.6 kernels. [03:34] they mention that in their kernel advisory and i'm trying to track down the patch [03:35] /pub/suse/i386/update/9.2/rpm/src [03:35] Though there doesn't seem to be a kernel package there [03:35] ftp.suse.com:/pub/suse/i386/update/9.2/rpm/src [03:35] go SUSE [03:35] it's your birthday [03:35] elmo: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/update/9.2/patches/ could also be interesting [03:36] pitti: that seems to be out of date too [03:36] elmo: There's a kernel patch from yesterday [03:37] /pub/suse/i386/update/9.2/patches/kernel-51816 [03:37] oh maybe I misread the description then [03:37] elmo: it's probably easier to check netfilter.sf.net [03:37] fabbione: does that ip_conntrack_ftp thing say anything to you? [03:37] But the description doesn't seem to mention the ip_conntrack_ftp [03:37] what kind of patch is that?? [03:38] pitti: i know what it is.. but no.. i have no idea [03:38]