=== SepheeBear [~SepheeBea@24-193-86-118.nyc.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === catdog [~ed@83.216.156.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:41] is gparted not in hoary because it isn't in debian unstable? [12:44] usual: that would be one reason [12:44] ok [12:44] generally speaking, things come from debian unstable [12:45] unless they're feature goals (like gnome) [12:45] I see [12:48] lamont, ubuntu hoary should release with the icon in the menu in this ss [12:48] http://files.subpop.net/daily-ss.jpg === x4m [~max@21.157-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:46] Kamion: ping [02:08] Can anyone say what went wrong with this build? it's got a build dep of automake1.7 but it's trying to find automake1. http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdesdk/4:3.3.2-1ubuntu1/kdesdk_4:3.3.2-1ubuntu1_20041226-0237-i386-failed === lamont looks [02:10] Riddell: heh. whoever uploaded it needs to fix the Build-Depends line [02:11] (there is no 'automake1.' package...) [02:14] lamont: I protest, the Build-Deps line definatly says Build-Depends: automake1.7 [02:15] ** Using build dependencies supplied by package: [02:15] Build-Depends: automake1. , binutils-dev, bison, debhelper (>> 4.0.0), flex, kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.3.2), kdepim-dev (>= 4:3.3.2), libdb4.2-dev, libkcal2-dev (>= 4:3.3.2) [02:15] lamont: pong [02:15] sivang: pong [02:15] Kamion: installing an hppa box with debian, was trying to bludgeon my way past the missing pieces of my local mirror... [02:15] but finally just pointed it off-site to get the d-i its. [02:16] bits [02:16] fair enough [02:16] sivang: compare /etc/environment with /etc/locale.gen [02:16] lamont: who can I ask about getting access to be able to upload packages? [02:16] Kamion: but it's so slow it hurts. :-( [02:17] Riddell: tell me which package it should build-dep on, and I'll upload it [02:17] Riddell: get Chris Halls to recommend you [02:17] Riddell: and what Kamion said. [02:18] $ zgrep Build-Depends kdesdk_3.3.2-1ubuntu1.diff.gz [02:18] -Build-Depends: automake1.7, binutils-dev, bison, debhelper (>> 4.0.0), flex, kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.3.0), libdb4.2-dev, libkcal2-dev (>= 4:3.3.0) [02:18] +Build-Depends: automake1. , binutils-dev, bison, debhelper (>> 4.0.0), flex, kdelibs4-dev (>= 4:3.3.2), kdepim-dev (>= 4:3.3.2), libdb4.2-dev, libkcal2-dev (>= 4:3.3.2) [02:18] Riddell: how many other pieces are having issues... [02:19] Kamion: when do you think a ubuntu installer POT files would be available in rosetta? === lamont grumbles at 5MB source balls [02:23] Kamion: very strange, that's not what I have in my kdesdk_3.3.2-1ubuntu1.diff.gz I gave to amu [02:23] Riddell: 1.7, yes?> [02:23] Kamion: who do I get Chris Halls to recommend me to? [02:23] Riddell: but definitely in the archive as automake1. [02:23] is there a good reason for it to be bulid-dep'ing on automake at all? [02:23] Riddell: eventually to the technical board [02:23] sivang: good question, it's somewhat on my to-do list. In the meantime there's http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/installer-po/, which has most of the first-stage interesting bits [02:23] lamont: actually 1.9 may be better [02:23] bob2: many things are debatable. [02:23] sivang: (that URL's regenerating at the moment) [02:24] Riddell: pick one. I won't be able to build before I toss it at the archive... [02:24] Riddell: as lamont says, community council and tech board; note that our sysadmins are 1.5-out-of-2 on holiday at the moment [02:25] Kamion: can country teams use this url to upload into rosetta? [02:25] sivang: please don't do so until I give the OK [02:25] I don't want random translations floating about without anything coherent being done about them [02:25] Kamion: Ok, no prob, so in the meanwhile I don't see much point in taking them at all :) I will just wait for it to be put there by you. === janc [~janc@D5762EAB.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:26] at the moment the only semi-official reason that URL exists is because a third-party translation company is getting up to speed [02:26] I'll probably get it polished up after New Year [02:27] Rosetta's definitely a goal for it once I'm sure it's all accurate source [02:27] Kamion: just on the off chance you didn't know (duh) d-i at 9600-serial _SUCKS_ [02:27] Kamion: what languages are they going to be doing? I've talked with the pro-translation cordinator on Mataro..:) [02:28] sivang: dunno actually, I guess I'll find out [02:28] Xhosa was mentioned but I think she wasn't entirely sure herself yet [02:28] Riddell: you want 1.9 or 1.7? [02:28] Kamion: Xhosa = Adi ? [02:30] lamont: automake1.9 please [02:31] lamont: what's wrong with 5meg sources? [02:31] they're large [02:31] anyway, I'm out. Night all. [02:31] night sivang [02:31] Night lamnot [02:31] night sivang [02:31] night ogra [02:32] sivang: right [02:33] Kamion: k:) night [02:34] Riddell: uploaded [02:34] sadly, it'll be 30 minutes before the buildds take it [02:35] lamont: thanks [02:35] np [02:35] Kamion: and for the record, tftp booting the business card ISO doesn't work. :-) [02:36] Kamion: well, it works. But it doesn't do what I wanted. :( [02:37] can't you tftp-boot the vmlinu[xz] /initrd.gz? [02:37] Kamion: yeah - actually went with 'boot.img' :) [02:38] sadly, that lacks all the pretty installer pieces, as does the local mirror. :( [02:38] what I really could have used was a way to tell d-i that /cdrom was populated, and to just get on with life. [02:38] (netcat and tar are your friend, you see...) [02:39] that's more the job of hd-media image types [02:39] and iso-scan [02:40] I find that the hppa port is making a wonderful harness for testing my per-suite changes in the buildd's... [02:40] Kamion: well, yes... it was just an idea I had before I punted. [02:43] Kamion: ok. now how do I change the mirror location before istalling the base system? [02:43] you didn't get choose-mirror presented to you by default? [02:44] yeah. I need to change the answer [02:44] or the install will take until next weke [02:44] go back to the main menu and select that item [02:44] week, even [02:44] doh [02:46] and it automagically jumps back into installing the base system. I guess that's cool [02:46] dependency-driven menu :) [02:46] ah [02:54] of course, the downside was that the only way I had to get back to the main menu was to yank the rug out from under the download.... === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-45-196.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:09] Kamion: tomorrow I'll get the connectors I need, and get my cyclades box installe.d [03:36] debian-kernel seems to be moving towards the one-source-for-all-architectures model fairly rapidly now [03:36] (of course, they always wanted to) [04:09] cool so they are helping upstream get the archs more in sync? [04:18] I think they always have been, just coordinating better now [04:19] but also just putting all the patches in one source package; it's not as if it's hard to #ifdef them for one architecture if necessary [04:27] yea [04:27] putting it all in one source will lead them to wanting to push as much as possible upstream though ;) [04:27] which is a good thing === usual [~colin@alb-69-202-45-196.nycap.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === zul [~chuck@zul.developer.gentoo] has joined #ubuntu-devel === johanbr [~j@d207-81-98-60.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico [~enrico@enrico.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:52] morning [07:54] http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net/ [07:54] bp? [07:56] " [07:56] The Ubuntu Backports project's goal is to provide a stable AND up-to-date Ubuntu Linux system by backporting desktop applications from Ubuntu's Development branches and Debian Sid." [07:56] amen [07:58] hahahaha [07:58] backports are evil [07:58] and they want donations to support their "apt-get source -b firefox" work [08:24] hehe [08:32] *sigh* [10:09] Hello. Is someone messing with the wiki? I'm now allowed to log in anymore :( === ogra [~ogra@p508EB44E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:03] hey ogra === winkle_ [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico is now known as enrico_dinner === sid77 [~sid77@ppp-143-162.30-151.libero.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:16] hi === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:30] mozilla-thunderbird has been out for a few weeks now, any idea when it will make it into ubuntu unstable? [12:33] n/m sorry about that, it's not in sid yet === stuNNed [~stuNNed@adsl-068-209-149-165.sip.msy.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === cenerentola [~cenerento@84.222.38.7] has joined #ubuntu-devel === enrico_dinner is now known as enrico_out [01:12] hey fabbione [01:12] hola [01:12] wow thats latency now [01:13] had a nice christmas ? [01:13] ogra: low latency patches to the stock kenrel? where?:) [01:13] i hate xmas [01:13] no === sivang would love to switch to doing midi/multi track recording in linux. [01:14] me too, so i stayed at home and set up the imac i broght from the company to check my ubuntu builds of the screensaver.....GF is at her mother 400km away.... [01:15] sivang: i heard thats possible with the right HW [01:15] sivang: but dont rely on me , i'm just waking up [01:15] sivang: ...and i'm very slow in this :) [01:17] ogra: ok heh :) [01:17] fabbione: why you hate christmas? [01:18] sivang: several reasons.. too long to explain here [01:18] fabbione: k :) [01:18] fabbione: just see it as some free days :) [01:19] ogra: i can't really... my gf loves xmas and she pushed me around all the 3/4 days in real pain [01:19] argh [01:19] ok.... [01:19] http://www.fabbione.net/cgi-bin/blog.cgi [01:19] ogra: that might give you an idea ;) === ogra reads [01:21] it's interesting to see how many people read URL's that are not for them :-) [01:21] fabbione: looks like i got the opposite here.....my GF is gone and i can finally do my ubuntu stuff that i cant else bacause of work === sivang LOLs to fabbione pleasure of people breaking up their X :) [01:22] tahts sad.... [01:22] anyway [01:22] well, whoever uses a development branch should know what his doing. [01:23] gotta do dishes and a bit of shopping [01:23] bbl [01:23] fabbione: c'ya [01:23] ciao === x4m [~max@21.157-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JD [~david@hades.robster.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:12] re === JD looks for a pmount/gvm/utopia guru === sjoerd hides === JD chases after sjoerd [02:14] sjoerd: I now have a working mounting usb storage device [02:14] JD: use media:/ ioslave with hal backend [02:14] one small issue is that I have a loopback device on it [02:15] Riddell: pfft. not using KDE === Treenaks is looking for the person who did NOT insert the Dutch translation for anything into rosetta.. even when they're available already (nl.po) [02:15] JD: what kind of loopback device ? [02:15] sjoerd: so I put a small script on the device to mount it [02:16] sjoerd: just a ext2 filesystem "mount -oloop /media/usbkey/secrets.loop /media/usbkeys/secrets" [02:17] sjoerd: gvm says "do you want to run .autorun" and I say yes [02:17] for writing complaints blogs like thius : &userguide-rev; [02:17] ^ [02:17] /home/pooh/devel/docteam/faq/faq/trunk/usersguide.xml:20: parser error : Entity 'userguide-rev' not defined [02:17] &userguide-rev; [02:17] only problem is that the device is mounted noexec :S [02:18] JD: why is that a problem? [02:18] Treenaks: because gvm can't exec the autorun script it just asked me if I wanted to run [02:18] Treenaks: because he wants to run something on it and gvm can't execute it :) === jbailey [~jbailey@dragonfly.fundserv.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:19] JD: file a bug against gvm.. and we'll probably remove the autorun ability :) === sjoerd doesn't think that the autorun stuff was a good idea anyway [02:19] hey jbailey [02:20] sjoerd: hmmm having something in ~/.gvm would be better [02:20] Heya fabbione! Happy whatever-winter-holiday-you-happen-to-celebrate! =) [02:20] ehheeh [02:20] JD: any reason why your using a loop device btw ? [02:20] thanks! same there [02:20] sjoerd: because windows likes to format non-fat devices? [02:20] sjoerd: and at somepoint I might use an encrypted loopback [02:21] ah [02:21] we should start supporting encrypted filesystems on removable storage nicely rsn now [02:22] sjoerd: so the device is fat, but it has a ext2 filesystem on it for my gpg keys and stuff [02:22] sjoerd: that would be so lovely [02:22] so you'll get a better solution for that [02:23] I want to plug my key in it get mounted and possibly for gnome-keyring to decrypt it for me [02:23] all wthout me doing anything (except giving a passphrase) [02:25] JD: that'd be great :) === Treenaks wants that too 8) [02:26] sjoerd: it can still make sarge :P [02:26] Ubuntu SargE? [02:26] :P [02:26] JD: It is gonna depend on hal 0.6.x so probably not [02:26] sjoerd: oh well [02:26] how come? [02:26] JD: see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/EncryptedStorage [02:26] some notes about what we want to support [02:27] JD: and http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/hal/2004-December/001423.html [02:28] hmph, Mac Open Firmware has an interesting notion of "disassembly" [02:28] h# ff852e77 dis [02:28] ff852e77: 00967eff [02:28] ff852e7b: fc7e6802 [02:29] THANKS, APPLE [02:29] Kamion: get the PowerPC manual to decode the opcodes 8) [02:29] hey Kamion ! [02:30] Treenaks: that's the plan ... [02:30] fabbione: do you know if a ultra5 has temperature sensors ? (probably not, but you can never be too sure) [02:30] unfortunately the manual I had is on the powerbook's disk, which is currently running OF :) [02:30] Kamion: 8) [02:31] sjoerd: not that i know.. sorry [02:31] fabbione: k, thanks [02:36] HMMMM [02:39] huston this is apollo13 [02:39] we have a problem [02:39] http://www.smcc.demon.nl/webcam/ <- === ogra is writing a lengthy ranting mail to the ubuntuguide author......(upcoming next in the -users ML for everyone who likes to get scared) [02:39] Kamion: are you replacing mdz during these days? [02:40] fabbione: we're shipping another version of that driver already [02:40] Treenaks: dude... they are the same [02:40] i did the merfe [02:40] merge [02:40] the version we have, has been taken a few days before this mess [02:40] and since upstream is dead [02:40] fabbione: thats more than 2 months old.... i thought there was a new maintainer [02:40] fabbione: http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/ [02:40] ogra: we have 10.0.6-unofficial... [02:41] AHHH [02:41] thanks guys [02:41] fabbione: no, the saillard version is the demon version + patches [02:41] Treenaks: i think the url was wrong in the patch... [02:41] now i reco the website [02:47] ufff.... mail sent.... === martink [~martin@pD9EB2029.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione needs some sugar [02:53] ogra: the long one? about the brokenness of the Guide? :) [02:53] yep [02:54] ogra: do you know anything about misdn? [02:54] was necessary... i and bob2 had soo much support the last days, caused by broken systems of ppl following the guide [02:55] fabbione: i'm just starting with it....important is that all the old isdn modules are blacklisted, they interfere [02:55] hmm i only need to update the kernel module... [02:55] i was trying to figure out how old is the one in our kernel and the one in their CVS repo === rija_tnr [~neko@62.56.240.17] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:56] ah, ok.... i didnt look at it for some time.... [02:57] another one to update :-) [02:57] fabbione: mvo is currently in there.... [02:57] fabbione: another nice set of drivers (not) is the quickcam set... it's 1 driver.. and 3 patched versions of the same driver with the same module name.. each of which works for a different set of cams [02:57] fabbione: and the main driver author is on crack [02:59] aahah no no.. it's the same [02:59] Treenaks: hold on... talking about pwc? [02:59] i am way down a LOOOONG list of drivers to review... [02:59] fabbione: no, quickcam (logitech) [02:59] fabbione: not in ubuntu kernels yet [03:00] fabbione: and in the current state, it probably won't be for a loooong time [03:00] http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ and http://home.mag.cx/messenger/ etc. [03:00] Treenaks: please don't give me drivers that requires a patching level of 20 deps. [03:00] fabbione: OK :) [03:00] heh === Treenaks will kick the upstram === azeem [~mbanck@lxsrv150.lrz-muenchen.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:01] like foo predeps on bar that predeps on baz but it has 3 f00 variant that are .... [03:01] Treenaks: that will simply increase my insanity level [03:01] and we do NOT want that.. do we? [03:01] fabbione: oh no, it's just 4 patches (1 for each type of cam).. but the problem they're mutually exclusive [03:01] fabbione: so I'll kick upstream into merging [03:01] exactly.. [03:01] so it's no go [03:01] fabbione: .. for now [03:03] fabbione: mdz> not that I've been told; mdz's been sort of around ... === rija_tnr [~neko@62.56.240.17] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:05] cool. if you telnet to openfirmware and then do 'boot hd:9,\\yaboot' or whatever, you get the yaboot prompt over telnet [03:05] cool [03:09] ah [03:09] neat [03:09] presumably this is how you actually debug yaboot [03:16] Kamion: is debootstrap error 132 == no target disk found ? === amu [~amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-16-236.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:37] can anybody connect to http://prism54.org/firmware/ ? [03:39] fabbione: It's not coming up, but I have one of those cards. [03:39] fabbione: Want me to fire up the laptop and get you the firmware? =) [03:39] <[Clint] > I have 1.0.4.3 handy [03:39] jbailey: i need to see if there is a firmware update :-) [03:39] <[Clint] > jbailey: plus it's illegal for you to give it to him [03:40] 1.0.4.3 [03:40] that's what i have [03:40] http://www.google.ca/search?q=cache:9_Je_ADPHH4J:prism54.org/~mcgrof/firmware/+&hl=en [03:40] is there anything newer than that? [03:41] no [03:41] so that's good.. less work for me :-) [03:52] lamont: your upload of kdesdk does not seem to have been built [03:56] Riddell: http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/k/kdesdk/4:3.3.2-1ubuntu1/kdesdk_4:3.3.2-1ubuntu1_20041226-0237-i386-failed [03:56] i think it's a plain typo [03:57] fabbione: that's the old build which lamont fixed [03:58] i doubt.... [03:58] there are no new versions at all [03:58] hmm [03:58] it has been accepted a ubuntu2 [03:58] he said he'd uploaded it [03:58] * Fix typo in Build-Depends. [03:58] yeah [03:59] probably he forgot to kick it back... [03:59] what does that mean? [04:01] Riddell: he needs to tell the systems to build the package [04:01] (in few very simple words) [04:02] doesn't they do that automatically when a package is uploaded? [04:05] in some cases no [04:05] and this is one of them [04:06] fabbione: it should have... checking [04:07] sigh. [04:07] for a in ia64 i386 powerpc amd64; do wanna-build -b$a/build-db -dhoary --pretend-avail automake1._1;done [04:07] all better [04:08] fabbione: 260 Installed, 205 Needs-Build [04:08] hppa, partial debian mirror locally, so lots of d-w's [04:09] once it gets done with sweep one, then I'll add the stage1 archive in and see what happens from there. [04:10] lamont: hey... [04:10] Riddell: because it was dep-wait 'automake1.', and that package hasn't arrived in the archive (duh), it won't auto-try a new kdesdk upload. sorry about that. [04:10] and fixed. [04:10] fabbione: yo [04:10] lamont: when can i get an hppa chroot? === lamont is about to get dragged out the door for a fun filled day [04:10] it doesn't need to be hoary [04:10] debian is fine [04:10] i only need our kernel-wedge [04:10] lamont: fair enough [04:10] fabbione: let me get the cyclades set up first, eh? [04:10] lamont: sure [04:11] since i am going to release 2.6.10 tomorrow.. i could start giving it a spin on hppa [04:11] lamont: hold on, the md5 didnt matched, with ubuntu2, i builded ubuntu1 on another maschine [04:11] amu: ?? [04:11] kdeskd [04:12] md5sum matched at upload for kdesdk ubuntu2 [04:12] I just unblocked the buildd's [04:13] i got a rejected mail from katie [04:14] dpkg-source -x failed for kdesdk_3.3.2-1ubuntu2.dsc ( return code 6400 ) [04:15] grumble [04:16] amu: it's building on all of them.... [04:16] did you upload a -1ubuntu2? [04:16] lamont: thx [04:16] lamont: yep [04:17] that would explain it... my -1ubuntu2 was in the archive, so your's bounced. [04:17] delta was to build-dep automake1.9, instead of automake1., per Riddell [04:18] but wanna-build still had the automake1. dep-wait, and needed a boot to the head. [04:18] er, needed to be awoken. === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:18] lamont: yep, saw it in the buildlogs, Riddell told me this also ... so i uploaded 1ubuntu2 :) [04:18] heh [04:19] anyway, off for another fun day of vacationing. [04:19] .. have fun === tklauser [~noone@80-218-108-101.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:22] Hi === enrico_out is now known as enrico [04:29] ogra: 132 is signal 4, whatever that is on your system ('kill -l') === Kamion finally manages to disassemble the bit of OF that governs what kinds of Mac partitions are bootable [04:31] Kamion: already done, was a prob in -users with virtual pc [04:31] so, it *has* to be on an Apple_Boot* or Apple_HFS* partition [04:31] ogra: ok === fabbione HATES DPATCH AND CAST A BLACK MAGIC SPELL ON THE AUTHOR TO MAKE HIM DIE FASTER [04:31] GROAR [04:32] <[Clint] > I hope you're going after dbs too. [04:32] ehehe [04:33] *snork* *quote* === Riddell protests, my package definatly did not have that automake1. typo in it === bronson [~bronson@node-40240852.sjc.onnet.us.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pinhead INFLICTS ENDLESS PAIN TO DPATCH AUTHOR [04:34] Riddell: must have been introduced by accident by the uploader [04:38] Kamion: you also copied the typo ;) [04:38] CAST -> CASTS :P [04:43] I figured that was just Itaglish [04:44] feel free to fix :) [04:47] ehehe [04:48] woohoo, working powerpc USB boot. we'll have that in Ubuntu by hoary release === ogra applauds [04:49] it'd be nice to get ofpath to recognise USB sticks, but that may be harder [04:54] Kamion: does OF deal with usb serial devices? [04:55] you mean like a USB serial console? [04:58] yeah [04:58] you could almost certainly write a driver for it, but I suspect it isn't there by default === amu [~amu@amu.developer.debian] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:23] ;2 [05:23] argh === smurfix does that quite often, too :-/ === x4m [~max@21.157-136-217.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _rene_ [~rene@dsl-082-082-060-246.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === seb128 [~seb128@ANancy-151-1-18-240.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === catdog [~ed@83.216.156.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Keyb [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === JanC [JanC@D5762EAB.kabel.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel [07:18] ogra: do you have some weird email<->brain interface? [07:18] hehe, why ? [07:18] ogra: you reply do -user mail before the original mail reaches my inbox :) [07:19] give us a chance! :) [07:19] just a fast server *g* (still a woody box) [07:19] I'm on a sarge box which takes ages to deliver mail (spamcheck, viruscheck, [you-name-it] -checl) [07:19] ok, i try to hold it back some mins in the future :) [07:20] the trick is to run all checks at the client side :) [07:21] ogra: ah! :P [07:21] but my server is my client ; [07:21] :) [07:21] heh === joshua__ [~joshua@24.48.147.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === joshua__ [~joshua@24.48.147.43] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [~maskie@196-30-110-196.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Blackmoon_ [Blackmoon@host123-95.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel === _Blackmoon_ [Blackmoon@host123-95.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [08:00] Hrm. There's a couple of chunks in the latest acpi patch that we probably want in 2.6.10 === winkle [~winkle@lgh3814234.vittran.norrnod.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:06] also, inotify seems to be absent in 2.6.10-vanilla [08:10] I already said that over the rosetta channel, and as it seems important I would ask here again - [08:11] Maybe it's worth while to announce a message to hold uploading of stuff into rosetta by translator until the official braches are merged in? [08:11] I have already some peopel over my country team that want to start trasnlating, some of them I think even attempted uploading some templates.. [08:12] this could result in the random arbitrary translations floating problem.. [08:13] sivang: uh.. most stuff in Rosetta has been RE-translated into Dutch because the Rosetta people didn't upload the already-translated .po's [08:14] Treenaks: this will happen also for hebrew I think, I don't know how long I can stop people from uploading :) although I asked really nicely. [08:33] mjg59: oh? [08:36] Keybuk: Nothing likely to help you, I'm afraid [08:36] aww [08:36] Tell tbm to get his docking station fixed and I'll see what I can do [08:39] is the parallel port you need, right? === boglot [~logbot@gw.workaround.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:07] Yeah [09:08] mjg59: the acpi-support pkg in hoary is outdated in a way? suspend to ram seem to not work on the inspiron 8200.. [09:12] sivang: In what way? [09:14] mjg59: well, the fans keep on going, network is up, disk access continues.. [09:17] How are you trying to suspend it? [09:21] sivang: Try running /etc/acpi/sleep.sh and then send me the dmesg === mjg59 goes for food [09:23] hmm [09:23] should I have a daemon to be able to go to sleep with acpi? [09:24] sleepd or something? [09:26] mjg59: will do :) [09:36] mjg59: I don't even have this script.. === jordi summons mjg59 to #gnome-debian. === Keybuk [scott@descent.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Todd_MA_1975 [~Todd_MA_1@h000f6632661b.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mxpxpod [~bryan@mxpxpod.user] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:15] smurfix: hey [10:15] smurfix: you around? i want to know what the ideal email address for country team stuff should be? === ironwolf [~ironwolf@63-228-63-108.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:28] mako: around [10:29] mako: country-team@canonical? [10:29] smurfix: that would be ideal :) [10:30] smurfix: i just mentioned the email yu'd be using to email me about this so far in the CC summaries [10:30] that i just sent to news [10:30] -news even [10:30] smurfix: we can look into getting a role account set up but that will (cleary) have to wait for elmo to return [10:33] mako: Otherwise, to get me personally, using smurf@debian would make sense. [10:35] i think using @debian addresses for ubuntu thing may be not that great an idea [10:35] mako: Hmmm [10:36] mako: OK, then hire me and give me a @canonical address. 1/2 :-) [10:36] hey, me too !! [10:36]